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Title: [Help] Getting a Blackmagic camera instead of a 7D
Post by: jpbelentani on October 29, 2013, 05:38:49 PM
Hi everyone, at first sorry if I may sound a bit confusing, english is not my first language, I'm no expert on cameras. Also sorry for making this post too long.

My father recently bought a new camera and gave me his Canon 7D and a Canon 24-105 Lens. I know the 7d is a nice camera for video specially with Magic Lantern, but I was thinking about selling the 7D and get the Blackmagic Cinema Camera.

I think is REALLY important mentioning that I would be selling the 7d here in where I live(Brazil), and buying the BMCC on US, also the 7D here is worth the same as the BMCC in US so it would be like getting a BMCC "for free".

I know the BMCC has some issues like not being able to delete videos from the camera, see how much space i have left on the ssd, no audio meter.. but I think this will eventually be fixed on a future update.

At first I was considering the EF version so I could use my 24-105 lens without any kind of adaptor, but I read that the crop factor would be an issue on the EF version.

From what I read if I get the MFT version and use a speed booster, I could get the same crop factor as an APS-C sensor, which would be similar to the 7D. Is it possible to use the MFT speed boster and a EF to MFT adaptor so I can use my canon lens on the BMCC MFT while the Metabones EF to MFT speed boster does not come out ?

And also, is it a smart choice to get the BMCC instead of the 7d ?

Once again sorry if I said something wrong, and also for making this long post, but I think is important to make everything claer so I don't regrat my choice later on.

Thank you!
Title: Re: [Help] Getting a Blackmagic camera instead of a 7D
Post by: 5D3shooter on October 30, 2013, 08:27:50 AM
You should read more about the BMCC; they sound good until you realize how much extra stuff you will need to get a running rig.  No removable battery on the BMCC = external battery packs + shoulder rig to carry everything.  It's really not practical as a hand-held camera.  Also, I hope you realize that the post production is a lot of work and you will need a very good computer, as with any RAW video.  If you only want to shoot video, then I guess its worth a try, but if you also want to take still photos then I'd recommend you get the Canon 5D Mark III and get best of both worlds. 

"From what I read if I get the MFT version and use a speed booster, I could get the same crop factor as an APS-C sensor, which would be similar to the 7D. Is it possible to use the MFT speed boster and a EF to MFT adaptor so I can use my canon lens on the BMCC MFT while the Metabones EF to MFT speed boster does not come out ?"

I think this question would be better asked on the BMC forum, as I doubt many people, if any, are using this camera here.

Alternatively, you can get the BMC Pocket Camera, and save money for some good glass, but again with this camera a lot of extra things are needed and then it really isn't so much of a "pocket camera." 


"And also, is it a smart choice to get the BMCC instead of the 7d ?"

Not to insult you in any way, but you just got a 7D and you're on a forum asking if you should sell it and get a BMCC...please make sure you are not moving too fast, as you should know what tools you need and don't need on your own.  I think you should shoot some movies on your 7D and enjoy it!  A lot of people made a lot of amazing things with that camera.  Don't get too caught up in the gear—trust me, it happens to all of us!

 
Title: Re: [Help] Getting a Blackmagic camera instead of a 7D
Post by: jpbelentani on October 31, 2013, 01:42:07 AM
Thanks for the reply

I decided to keep the 7D. As you said I just got the 7D and it should be more than enough for me now, so there's no reason for replace it. Thanks!
Title: Re: [Help] Getting a Blackmagic camera instead of a 7D
Post by: edwmotion on October 31, 2013, 02:14:35 AM
I also decide to keep my 7D just for its 2.5k raw recording mode. The problem here is the crop factor on 5x mode.  :-\

If only I could use this lens on my 7D   ::)

http://www.rmaelectronics.com/kowa-lm8hc-1-8mm-f1-4-manual-iris-c-mount-lens-2-megapixel/
Title: Re: [Help] Getting a Blackmagic camera instead of a 7D
Post by: 1% on October 31, 2013, 06:18:29 AM
That sounds like so much hassle with BMCC.. I thought the advantage there was it was stable and had basic features out of the box. You don't have to use crop on the 7D unless you have a scene with some bad aliasing.

Title: Re: [Help] Getting a Blackmagic camera instead of a 7D
Post by: 5D3shooter on October 31, 2013, 08:09:46 AM
I sold both my 7D and 50D... kickin' myself in the butt now!  If I would've known what was to come of these cameras with ML I would've kept them and had THREE RAW video cams.. oh well  :'(
Title: Re: [Help] Getting a Blackmagic camera instead of a 7D
Post by: 5D3shooter on October 31, 2013, 08:14:10 AM
Quote from: edwmotion on October 31, 2013, 02:14:35 AM
I also decide to keep my 7D just for its 2.5k raw recording mode. The problem here is the crop factor on 5x mode.  :-\

If only I could use this lens on my 7D   ::)

http://www.rmaelectronics.com/kowa-lm8hc-1-8mm-f1-4-manual-iris-c-mount-lens-2-megapixel/

Hey,

What about this adapter?

http://fotodioxpro.com/index.php/c-mount-movie-lens-to-canon-eos-camera-lens-mount-adapter.html (http://fotodioxpro.com/index.php/c-mount-movie-lens-to-canon-eos-camera-lens-mount-adapter.html)

With the extreme wide angle of that lens, it's possible it will smack your mirror though
Title: Re: [Help] Getting a Blackmagic camera instead of a 7D
Post by: kgv5 on October 31, 2013, 09:59:59 AM
This is not 5x crop, it shows that way but 2,5k is really about 2 times crop, like BMCC (you are cutting 2500 pixels out of 5700).
Title: Re: [Help] Getting a Blackmagic camera instead of a 7D
Post by: edwmotion on October 31, 2013, 10:25:10 PM
Quote from: 5D3shooter on October 31, 2013, 08:14:10 AM
Hey,

What about this adapter?

http://fotodioxpro.com/index.php/c-mount-movie-lens-to-canon-eos-camera-lens-mount-adapter.html (http://fotodioxpro.com/index.php/c-mount-movie-lens-to-canon-eos-camera-lens-mount-adapter.html)

With the extreme wide angle of that lens, it's possible it will smack your mirror though

I was thinking about buying an adapter (just for crop mode... so I don't care vignette), but,, will it work?.  The mirror is a problem here.

"No; Limited Focus Range, Macro Only"... how much is macro???? LOL