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Using Magic Lantern => Raw Video => Raw Video Postprocessing => Topic started by: infinitebuzz on October 03, 2013, 05:49:33 AM

Title: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 03, 2013, 05:49:33 AM
Hi Forum

  We recently added Magic Lantern RAW video support in two of our software products.  We are actively looking for testers and will happily provide temp licenses for any one who wants to try it.  The supported products are:

DrasticPreview
http://www.drastic.tv/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54:drasticpreview&catid=42&Itemid=79 (http://www.drastic.tv/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54:drasticpreview&catid=42&Itemid=79)
DrasticPreview allows preview playback for Magic Lantern raw files, converted DNG files as well as a large number of other formats.  It is available for OS-X Intel and Windows 32/64.

MediaReactor Workstation
http://www.drastic.tv/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=58:mediareactorworkstation&catid=40&Itemid=80 (http://www.drastic.tv/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=58:mediareactorworkstation&catid=40&Itemid=80)
MediaReactor Workstation is a series of plug ins for Adobe Premiere, Adobe MediaEncoder, Apple Final Cut Pro, Assimilate Scratch/Lab, Avid MediaComposer family and QuickTime.  It allows all these apps, and other apps that use QuickTime, to directly access Magic Lantern raw files at the highest possible quality.  A variety of debayer methods, Cuda and OpenCL acceleration and 16 bit half float support.  It is available for OS-X Intel, Windows 32 and Windows 64.

If anyone is interested in testing or just trying the Magic Lantern support, please download and install the software, generate a site code and request a temporary key from support@drastictech.com.  Both these products also run in trial mode with watermarks and length restrictions, it you don't want to bother with a trial.

Comments, criticism, and bug reports welcome!
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Midphase on October 03, 2013, 10:51:20 PM
Very interesting. Is there a substantial performance hit when using .raw into Premiere?

Are you guys supporting .mlv files as well?

This is intriguing, I suppose I should just go ahead and download the trial and give it a go!

Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: mrnv45 on October 03, 2013, 11:05:20 PM
never got a download link.

so with the 2nd link you can live capture (while filming? )

nvisionmg@gmail.com
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 04, 2013, 01:42:38 AM
Very interesting. Is there a substantial performance hit when using .raw into Premiere?

Are you guys supporting .mlv files as well?

This is intriguing, I suppose I should just go ahead and download the trial and give it a go!
Hi Midphase

  With Premiere we are using OpenCL, so it is fairly fast and the 14 bit is debayered to 16 int for maximum quality.  It is not quite as fast as the Assimilate Scratch/Lab implementation, were we are using Cuda, but that requires an NVidia card of course.  We are actually looking for sample MLV files to add support for them.  If you have any you can share, please PM me.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 04, 2013, 01:45:28 AM
never got a download link.

so with the 2nd link you can live capture (while filming? )

nvisionmg@gmail.com
Hi MrNV45

  Sorry you didn't get the link.  We have seen spam filters eating them on occasion.  I just emailed you the links, so if you don't see them shortly, check you spam folder.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: mrnv45 on October 04, 2013, 01:50:46 AM
thanks, checked spam still nothing.

but i got your direct links thanks!

do i still generate and email the support being i can get emails from yall?
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: arrinkiiii on October 04, 2013, 02:06:53 AM

Good work! Already download and send email for the key.

Yes, it will be good if can read MLV... i think a lot of people no more use raw 1.0   (mlv= raw 2.0)

You still need MLV files?
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 04, 2013, 02:44:46 AM
thanks, checked spam still nothing.

but i got your direct links thanks!

do i still generate and email the support being i can get emails from yall?
No problem.  For testing, please generate a site code and email it to authorization@drastictech.com and let them know you are testing the Magic Lantern support.  There is more info on how to license our software here:

http://license.drastictech.com (http://license.drastictech.com)

Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 04, 2013, 02:46:10 AM
Good work! Already download and send email for the key.

Yes, it will be good if can read MLV... i think a lot of people no more use raw 1.0   (mlv= raw 2.0)

You still need MLV files?
Hi Arrinkiii

  Yes, absolutely.  We are looking for any raw (1.0) files that don't work, and any MLV files people are willing to share!  We can get dropbox, copy.com or I can give you an private ftp site.  Please PM me if you have files you can share.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: mrnv45 on October 04, 2013, 02:48:45 AM
Should I be recording in .mlv?
I read it doesn't hold the same quality as .raw does? Am I missing something
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: arrinkiiii on October 04, 2013, 03:04:18 AM
Hi Arrinkiii

  Yes, absolutely.  We are looking for any raw (1.0) files that don't work, and any MLV files people are willing to share!  We can get dropbox, copy.com or I can give you an private ftp site.  Please PM me if you have files you can share.

Cheers, James

No problem, tomorrow (02h00 am) i will update MLV files in my dropbox. Two to 6 seconds are enough?

Good night and i pm you tomorrow  :)
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: mrnv45 on October 04, 2013, 04:12:48 AM
how long does the authorization code take usually?
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: mrnv45 on October 04, 2013, 04:19:37 AM
just by running trial on the Previewer

reading FROM CARD:

plays for like 3 seconds then stops.  i have to fast forward and then rewind and it will play all way.

but after that it is hard to get it to play again.  dont know if thats in trial mode.

but other than that. FULL SCREEN looks great, and the playback is smooth.. very cool.. hopefully i can get the license and that fixes that freeze up
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 04, 2013, 05:04:55 AM
how long does the authorization code take usually?
Hi MrNV45

  We are a small company, so keys are sent out 9~5 EST.  You'll have it tomorrow morning.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 04, 2013, 05:10:28 AM
just by running trial on the Previewer

reading FROM CARD:

plays for like 3 seconds then stops.  i have to fast forward and then rewind and it will play all way.

but after that it is hard to get it to play again.  dont know if thats in trial mode.

but other than that. FULL SCREEN looks great, and the playback is smooth.. very cool.. hopefully i can get the license and that fixes that freeze up
Thanks!  There is a 10 second limit and watermark when you don't have a key.  When you get the key, there will be no watermark or time limit.  I don't think it will change a stop at 3 seconds, but we will try checking some more cards.  Most of our tests are actually from hard drivers.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: mrnv45 on October 04, 2013, 05:14:43 AM
ok well ill wait for tomorrow. im excited to see this progression.

do yall have a donation or something to get this out and about. i love helping developers. i design graphics so if u need any U.I help let me know.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Jakobmen on October 04, 2013, 05:29:17 AM
sign for beta also..
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Midphase on October 04, 2013, 10:16:39 AM
Should I be recording in .mlv?
I read it doesn't hold the same quality as .raw does? Am I missing something

Just out of curiosity...where did you read that?
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: dude on October 04, 2013, 12:41:46 PM
That s great, viewing the clips before importig them!
How does the Premiere Plugin work? Which kind of debayering does it use?
Does it hold up with acr?
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 04, 2013, 03:24:54 PM
sign for beta also..
Great!  Please install and send us your site code
http://license.drastictech.com
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 04, 2013, 03:25:40 PM
Just out of curiosity...where did you read that?
From the spec, the quality should be the same, but MLV will give you more information about the raw frames.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 04, 2013, 03:28:49 PM
That s great, viewing the clips before importig them!
How does the Premiere Plugin work? Which kind of debayering does it use?
Does it hold up with acr?
The Premiere plug in is an import plug in, so it adds RAW to the import and then we debayer it on the fly.  ACR is a very good, but somewhat slow, debayer.  For Premiere, MediaComposer, FCP and QuickTime, we use a bilinear (opencl, cuda or cpu) bebayer.  For finishing products like Scratch, we have the bilinear and a Malvar/Lanczos debayer.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: arrinkiiii on October 04, 2013, 03:30:31 PM
From the spec, the quality should be the same, but MLV will give you more information about the raw frames.

Exactly, the quality is the same MLV just have more data embedded in the file... and also will be the future file/extension for ML
 
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Jakobmen on October 04, 2013, 03:41:23 PM
Great!  Please install and send us your site code
http://license.drastictech.com

No downlink was sent yet  :-\
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: dude on October 04, 2013, 03:42:15 PM
Ok, but there were a lot of plugins for premiere, which did not work as good as acr, so that caused my question.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: arrinkiiii on October 04, 2013, 03:44:02 PM
Waiting for the code key  :D
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: arrinkiiii on October 04, 2013, 04:19:53 PM

-I must say that the Drastic Preview software is just beautiful. Simples, fast and 100% live view of your files in real time... at least the raw files. One thing that i notice in Drastic Preview is that the preview is a little bit dark from what was be shooting but going to do more tests. Also you can see fringing appear in the edges of stuff. But for a preview of raw in real time with all in side and with a lot of metadata... this is just wonderful/time saver =))   


Im in this moment uploading some MLV files in dropbox.

Going now try out the plug-in for premiere and after effects.

Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 04, 2013, 04:27:00 PM
Ok, but there were a lot of plugins for premiere, which did not work as good as acr, so that caused my question.
If you have time, please give it a go and let us know what you think!
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 04, 2013, 04:30:00 PM
-I must say that the Drastic Preview software is just beautiful. Simples, fast and 100% live view of your files in real time... at least the raw files. One thing that i notice in Drastic Preview is that the preview is a little bit dark from what was be shooting but going to do more tests. Also you can see fringing appear in the edges of stuff. But for a preview of raw in real time with all in side and with a lot of metadata... this is just wonderful/time saver =))   


Im in this moment uploading some MLV files in dropbox.

Going now try out the plug-in for premiere and after effects.
Thanks very much!  We are looking at the ranging as well.  We are using the values that come out of the RAW header, but they do look a bit dark.  With the fringing, that is probably the bilinear.  The MalvarLanczos helps with that and sharpens the image, but is currently only selectable in Scratch.  Looking forward to the MLV files.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: arrinkiiii on October 04, 2013, 04:56:44 PM
For a previewer is more then enough... maybe 1 or 2 slides with iso/exposure in the previewer app? I think is good like that, even with the fringing thing. Going open premiere and see what going to happen =))


I already send the link with the MLV to James.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: arrinkiiii on October 04, 2013, 05:50:21 PM
So good to see raw footage playing smooth/real time in premiere  :D

Things that i notice with the plug-in in premiere: Yes, the raw footage come more dark than normal and unfortunately the fringing still there. In after effects with the dng's and ACR i have the sliders to control the image... in premiere what i should use for expose more or less? The levels, the shadow/highlight plug in from premiere? 

In premiere is possible to change the white balance?

Wend use the shadow/highlight plug-in from premiere to expose correctly i got the strange flickering (like in ACR) Any hint how to expose appropriately in premiere without the flickering issue? 
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: reddeercity on October 04, 2013, 06:15:39 PM
Hi,
Any support for Final Cut Pro X or just
The Out Dated Final Cut Pro 7 ?
No Adobe in my workflow. :)
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 04, 2013, 07:06:09 PM
Hi,
Any support for Final Cut Pro X or just
The Out Dated Final Cut Pro 7 ?
No Adobe in my workflow. :)
We have the API and FCP-X is under development, but probably won't be ready until later this year.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: mrnv45 on October 04, 2013, 07:51:28 PM
so far so good on the preview program!

love it actually!  ill give it a hard run today.

what exactly does the  MediaReactor do?  also will yall have anything for FCPx or do yall not like final cutx
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 04, 2013, 08:14:23 PM
so far so good on the preview program!

love it actually!  ill give it a hard run today.

what exactly does the  MediaReactor do?  also will yall have anything for FCPx or do yall not like final cutx
MediaReactor is a series of plug ins for editing and finishing software for video/audio import and export.  We are working on FCP-X, but it is not ready yet.  When it is, it will support all the file formats MediaReactor supports for Avid/Adobe/Assimilate/FCP7/QuickTime/etc.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: mrnv45 on October 04, 2013, 08:16:30 PM
nice. yall should just build yalls own video grading, standalone.  yall have the viewer, and yall have the editing.  what else would yall need to get that started.  yall are on the right track, wish yall luck!
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Jakobmen on October 04, 2013, 08:39:35 PM
still no email for the viewer =(
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 04, 2013, 08:59:33 PM
nice. yall should just build yalls own video grading, standalone.  yall have the viewer, and yall have the editing.  what else would yall need to get that started.  yall are on the right track, wish yall luck!
Thanks!  We have talked about a trimming station, where we allow you to pull out the stuff you want without encode/decode, and also make a proxy version . . . It all about time, of course  ;)
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 04, 2013, 09:01:24 PM
still no email for the viewer =(
Sorry about that.  Just sent you a PM with more info.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: sebamax on October 04, 2013, 09:08:02 PM
still no email for the viewer =(
me too
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: mrnv45 on October 04, 2013, 09:20:56 PM
Thanks!  We have talked about a trimming station, where we allow you to pull out the stuff you want without encode/decode, and also make a proxy version . . . It all about time, of course  ;)

def. understand.   

no rush, but you got a new fan here. i look forward to continue testing !! nothing like being the first to test the future!
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: reddeercity on October 04, 2013, 09:27:59 PM
We have the API and FCP-X is under development, but probably won't be ready until later this year.
excellent ! :)
Will the plugin allow me to work native on the time line? in fcpx .
Let me know when the plugin ready, I would be glad to Test it for you Guys  :D
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: szigiszmund on October 04, 2013, 10:15:07 PM
me too

Waiting too
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 04, 2013, 11:26:58 PM
excellent ! :)
Will the plugin allow me to work native on the time line? in fcpx .
Let me know when the plugin ready, I would be glad to Test it for you Guys  :D
I will announce it here when it is ready.  Our current FCPX development allows you to import and use it on the time line directly, but I think FCP-X actually starts caching to ProRes in the background.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: dlrpgmsvc on October 04, 2013, 11:44:42 PM
Please, keep raw 1.0 (not .mlv) compatibility also! It permits more frames to be recorded! Raw 1.0 will never die and it is essential. The .mlv infos are not so essential to all shooters, and not so useful to everyone. Many thanks!
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: brunonicko on October 04, 2013, 11:45:48 PM
Hi! I didn't receive the e-mail also... Looking forward to test (and maybe buy!) this software!
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: reddeercity on October 05, 2013, 12:13:00 AM
I will announce it here when it is ready.  Our current FCPX development allows you to import and use it on the time line directly, but I think FCP-X actually starts caching to ProRes in the background.
Yes it dose,
 i can work with cdng  native on the time line but, the only problem is FCPX
imports the image at 10 seconds per-frame instead of  1 Frame = 1/24th second
So when you import 5000 frame  this take all day!
after indexing, then you can change duration to 1/24th.
After that no problem editing & grading in fcpx
i'm limited to about 500-600 frames on import at a time.

Edit: i Agree Keep Raw1.0  :)
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: mrnv45 on October 05, 2013, 04:45:08 AM
see thats why i had started the thread Raw vs. MLV http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8644.new#new
i kept reading different things.

also i was suggested using iphoto or what i use Aperture to index.  and it was alot faster.
how (on FCPx) do i change the 10 seconds to the 1/24 on fcpx..?
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: mrnv45 on October 05, 2013, 05:22:47 AM
Dragging and dropping a .raw clip and then selecting <MODE> caused a force close on mac
here is the log i collected before i SENT TO APPLE

http://www.sendspace.com/file/fra5sf

Update:  whenever i press PLAY it plays for 5 sec. and then stops.? it wont play passed 4 seconds.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: reddeercity on October 05, 2013, 05:57:21 AM
also i was suggested using iphoto or what i use Aperture to index.  and it was alot faster.
how (on FCPx) do i change the 10 seconds to the 1/24 on fcpx..?
Hi-light the images on the time line click the mouse button Or right click Microsoft mouse
dropdown menu select change duration to (1)
Short video tutorials on how its done.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: dude on October 05, 2013, 03:44:51 PM
Pretty nice that if you name the seperate recorded audio (in my case via mobilephone) the same as the raw files, you even get audio in the player.
that s a good one!
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 05, 2013, 05:50:46 PM
Please, keep raw 1.0 (not .mlv) compatibility also! It permits more frames to be recorded! Raw 1.0 will never die and it is essential. The .mlv infos are not so essential to all shooters, and not so useful to everyone. Many thanks!
We always add more formats, never remove them.  We are still supporting OMFI files ;)
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 05, 2013, 05:51:26 PM
Dragging and dropping a .raw clip and then selecting <MODE> caused a force close on mac
here is the log i collected before i SENT TO APPLE

http://www.sendspace.com/file/fra5sf

Update:  whenever i press PLAY it plays for 5 sec. and then stops.? it wont play passed 4 seconds.
Thanks for the bug report.  We will look at it on Monday.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 05, 2013, 05:53:35 PM
Pretty nice that if you name the seperate recorded audio (in my case via mobilephone) the same as the raw files, you even get audio in the player.
that s a good one!
Nice job figuring that out ;).  When we have too many audio channels we write the extra's as separate wave or aiff files.  We then look for them when loading a file for playback.  This is an unintended feature, thanks for pointing it out.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 05, 2013, 05:55:45 PM
Waiting too
Hi All

  It looks like we are seeing a 1/10~1/20 email failure with our link responder.  If you do not get an email within an hour of requesting it on our site, please PM me (infinitebuzz) and I will send you the links it should have sent.  Just let me know if you want to try DrasticPreview, MediaReactor or both.

Cheers, James (Infinitebuzz)
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Francis Frenkel on October 05, 2013, 07:21:46 PM
I just test DrasticPreview, it is so usefull, and very efficent (even with the 10 secondes restraint of the demo version) !

I got one question :
If I purchase the player DrasticPreview, wil it be for only one computer ?
> Because I would like to have the player on a Laptop just to check / valid what I have shoot on the set, and one player on my computer at the office.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Oedipax on October 05, 2013, 11:21:56 PM
Very interesting software, but out of curiosity: how do I uninstall MediaReactor? I'm running Premiere CC, and with official support for CDNG coming soon, I don't want this app to conflict with that especially since it's a watermarked demo.

I imported several DNG sequences into Premiere and had issues with getting just a black screen on some clips, or very stuttery playback, etc. I trust it will get better, but for now, how do I undo? :D
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 06, 2013, 02:00:36 AM
I just test DrasticPreview, it is so usefull, and very efficent (even with the 10 secondes restraint of the demo version) !

I got one question :
If I purchase the player DrasticPreview, wil it be for only one computer ?
> Because I would like to have the player on a Laptop just to check / valid what I have shoot on the set, and one player on my computer at the office.
Hi Francis

  We understand that this is a common issue, and will generally allow two keys for this purpose for the cost of one for this kind of on-set/off-set product.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 06, 2013, 02:03:35 AM
Very interesting software, but out of curiosity: how do I uninstall MediaReactor? I'm running Premiere CC, and with official support for CDNG coming soon, I don't want this app to conflict with that especially since it's a watermarked demo.

I imported several DNG sequences into Premiere and had issues with getting just a black screen on some clips, or very stuttery playback, etc. I trust it will get better, but for now, how do I undo? :D
Hi Oedipax

  There is an uninstall program installed with MediaReactor.  It is in /Applications/MediaReactor on Mac and Start Menu | Programs | MediaReactor on Windows.  These will remove all the files we installed, but may leave some config files created after install that won't effect anything.  We would be very interested in looking at any files that did not work properly in Premiere with our plug in.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: mrnv45 on October 06, 2013, 05:21:22 PM
i cant get any clip to play past 0.00.00;05 seconds...?
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 06, 2013, 05:44:56 PM
i cant get any clip to play past 0.00.00;05 seconds...?
Hi MrNV45

  We do use the audio board/chip/driver for timing on DrasticPreview.  If you do not have one, or it is otherwise in use, it may not play properly (e.g. stop playing).  If this is the case, seeking and playing should go a few seconds from where you seek to

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: mrnv45 on October 07, 2013, 12:12:16 AM
after a restart it played 1 time all the way then after i closed and opened it again, it went back to playing just the ;5 frames.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 07, 2013, 01:48:28 AM
after a restart it played 1 time all the way then after i closed and opened it again, it went back to playing just the ;5 frames.
HI MrNV45
  Is this Windows or OS-X?  If yo have time, can you please capture a DbgView (Windows) of the debug coming out when it stops at 5 seconds.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: dude on October 07, 2013, 05:34:13 PM
One question-which kind of debayer method do you use?
the footage has a nice contrast
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 08, 2013, 05:00:24 AM
One question-which kind of debayer method do you use?
the footage has a nice contrast
The default debayer in the player is bilinear.  There is a MarkovLanczos debayer that is sharper in the Assimilate that we are thinking of adding as an option.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 08, 2013, 08:57:46 PM
 :D Update:  If you are shooting MLV (Magic Lantern Raw 2.0) and are interested in trying it in DrasticPreview, please send me a PM and I will send you a link to a plug in you can add to the installer to get it reading.  We are still working on R/B gain, exposure and file spanning, but the basics are working.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 16, 2013, 03:14:23 AM
Thanks for the great response everyone!  You comments and reports have been very helpful.  Some have asking for temporary licenses in the comments on the download responder.  Unfortunately we need a site code to create a key for you.  Please install the software, run the licenser and send us the site code.  We will send back a response you can put in the license app.  There is more information on this here:

http://license.drastictech.com (http://license.drastictech.com)

Also, the next version will include support for MLV as well as RAW.  I will post a message here when it goes up.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: hjfilmspeed on October 16, 2013, 07:33:34 AM
Any hope for sony vegas pro 12?
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Brawl on October 16, 2013, 12:28:40 PM
my PC mount ATI 5650 Mobility  GPU card is it possible to use your software with it? thx
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 17, 2013, 03:39:45 PM
Any hope for sony vegas pro 12?
Hi Hjfilmspeed

  We would love to support Vegas, but we have been unable to get a file I/O SDK from Sony.  We know there is one available, but we have not found the right person to get it from.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 17, 2013, 03:41:32 PM
my PC mount ATI 5650 Mobility  GPU card is it possible to use your software with it? thx
Hi Brawl

  Yes.  For ATI we will use OpenCL, if available, and if not we will default to the CPU for debayer.  CPU based debayer is much slower, but it will let you see the picture ;).  Please let us know how it works.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: ck8610 on October 17, 2013, 05:11:37 PM
nice job~!
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: pholler on October 17, 2013, 07:52:01 PM
Hi infinitebuzz!

I downloaded MediaReactor and installed it, then started Premiere CC and tried to import a RAW-File. Than i got an error-message from GingerHDR. I forgot that i installed this plugin. This plugin also lets you import .RAW-Files directly into Premiere. It's just very very slow, why i never used it. Then i removed GingerHDR and uninstalled MediaReactor and installed it again. I still cannot import any RAW-files in Premiere. When i select the Import-dialog the .RAW-Files are grayed out. I cannot select them. Any suggestions?

Before i forget. I am using a Mac.

Thanx in advance
Peter
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 19, 2013, 05:38:14 AM
Hi infinitebuzz!

I downloaded MediaReactor and installed it, then started Premiere CC and tried to import a RAW-File. Than i got an error-message from GingerHDR. I forgot that i installed this plugin. This plugin also lets you import .RAW-Files directly into Premiere. It's just very very slow, why i never used it. Then i removed GingerHDR and uninstalled MediaReactor and installed it again. I still cannot import any RAW-files in Premiere. When i select the Import-dialog the .RAW-Files are grayed out. I cannot select them. Any suggestions?

Before i forget. I am using a Mac.

Thanx in advance
Peter
Hi Peter

  I can have a look on Monday.  There is a new version up if you want to try that in the meantime.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 19, 2013, 05:41:41 AM
Hi All

  There are new versions of DrasticPreview, DrasticPreview Pro and MediaReactor Workstation that have updated ML raw support and the first pass of MLV support.  The MLV supports only the raw 14 bit essence (not the 8, 10 or LZW yet) and supports multiple/spanned MLV files.  Not all MLV files are supported yet (g3gg0 has already found 2), but these will be supported in a update next week.

Thanks, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: arrinkiiii on October 19, 2013, 11:10:26 AM
Where i can download the new version?
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 20, 2013, 12:56:15 AM
Where i can download the new version?
Its uploaded to our release version

http://www.drasticpreview.com
http://www.mediareactor.ws

IB
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: arrinkiiii on October 20, 2013, 02:23:29 PM
I have able to download the new version of drasticpreview but the mediareactor not, did't receive the email with the link. 

I try the new drasticpreview and i already can play/preview the MLV raw files (thanks =)) . The playback is not so smooth like the legacy raw files  but is alright for see the footage. The raw file that i preview got a lot of fringing, if it's for previewing it's ok but if it's for using as plugin in premiere it's not good having this all fringing stuff.  Also now i see some king of green watermark with a clock inside, do i need to put the code again?   

Thanks for the work  :)
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: matthieu on October 21, 2013, 12:18:19 PM
Hi

i am not having a lot of luck here. First - most mails from you don't make their way to me.  I just wanted to install the newest versions, but no mail..
I however received the links for the previous versions some days ago (one of them in the spam filter).

DrasticPreview is working - but only playing 5 Frames.
(I can get around this when putting the playhead to the clip end, reversing, and then pressing play..!)

Mediareactor is installed but none of the Apps (QT pro, AE CC, Premiere CS 6) was able to open the .RAW files.

I am on a Mac / OSX 10.8.5

Looking forward to have it all working smoothly on my computer!  It's absolutely what i was looking for.
With the plugins - will it be possible to preview the RAWs in OSX finder already?
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 21, 2013, 03:43:30 PM
I have able to download the new version of drasticpreview but the mediareactor not, did't receive the email with the link. 

I try the new drasticpreview and i already can play/preview the MLV raw files (thanks =)) . The playback is not so smooth like the legacy raw files  but is alright for see the footage. The raw file that i preview got a lot of fringing, if it's for previewing it's ok but if it's for using as plugin in premiere it's not good having this all fringing stuff.  Also now i see some king of green watermark with a clock inside, do i need to put the code again?   

Thanks for the work  :)
Hi Arrinkiii

  We are still getting a couple of MLV files to work, though most of them seem ok now.  I will have a look at the speed, it should be close to raw speeds.  The main difference is that raw are always in order, which is nice for read, but MLV can be out of order to support the highest possible write performance on the camera.  If you have a fast driver or SSD for source, the difference with the extra seeks should be negligible, but on hard drives they can add up.  Can you please send me a sample of the finging?  With the watermark, please run LicenseDDR and PM me with what it says.  The watermark probably means the trial has run out.  We can reset that for you.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 21, 2013, 03:47:39 PM
Hi

i am not having a lot of luck here. First - most mails from you don't make their way to me.  I just wanted to install the newest versions, but no mail..
I however received the links for the previous versions some days ago (one of them in the spam filter).

DrasticPreview is working - but only playing 5 Frames.
(I can get around this when putting the playhead to the clip end, reversing, and then pressing play..!)

Mediareactor is installed but none of the Apps (QT pro, AE CC, Premiere CS 6) was able to open the .RAW files.

I am on a Mac / OSX 10.8.5

Looking forward to have it all working smoothly on my computer!  It's absolutely what i was looking for.
With the plugins - will it be possible to preview the RAWs in OSX finder already?
Hi Matthieu

  Thanks for letting me know.  With the remailer, we have been having trouble with the mail ending up in the spam folder and just not appearing at all.  Last weekend we updated our web site software, and were able to change it to display the link on the landing page after you fill in the form.  It will still send the info email out, but at least you don't have to wait for the email to get the link.
  With DrasticPreview and MRWS on Mac, can you please PM me your Mac's config?  The playback stopping has often been an audio problem (trying to use a audio subsystem that doesn't act like we expect), but the Premiere/QT issue sounds like the drivers weren't installed in the correct place by our installer.  What version of QT and Premiere are you using?

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: pholler on October 21, 2013, 04:47:07 PM
DrasticPreview is working - but only playing 5 Frames.
Mediareactor is installed but none of the Apps (QT pro, AE CC, Premiere CS 6) was able to open the .RAW files.
Same here. I am using OS X 10.8.3, newest DrasticPreview 143 and MediaReactor 143. Seems like the plugins do not install on the right place or just do not install at all.
Is there a way to install the plugins manually?
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: hjfilmspeed on October 21, 2013, 09:30:45 PM
Hi Hjfilmspeed

  We would love to support Vegas, but we have been unable to get a file I/O SDK from Sony.  We know there is one available, but we have not found the right person to get it from.

Cheers, James

ggrrrrrrrrrrrr @ sony! thank you!
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 23, 2013, 06:20:49 PM
Same here. I am using OS X 10.8.3, newest DrasticPreview 143 and MediaReactor 143. Seems like the plugins do not install on the right place or just do not install at all.
Is there a way to install the plugins manually?
Hi Pholler

  We are looking into this.  For some reason, the raw is not getting added.  Hopefully we will have a fix shortly.  I'll announce it here.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on October 24, 2013, 05:22:10 AM
Hi All

  New versions of www.drasticpreview.com and www.mediareactor.ws are up!  Here are the main changes:

- Full MLV 14 bit bayer support
- Fixed Premiere MLV import
- RAW info header fix for RAW and MLV
- More meta and setttings from MLV

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: mhimhi on November 08, 2013, 12:54:05 PM
am i wrong, or it's not the same quality than dng? working with raw i cant get the same quality and colors that working with dng on acr.is there any tricks? the raw is very dark and even if i try setting with speedgrade i can't get the same colours and feeings than acr... :'(
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: jose_ugs on November 11, 2013, 05:35:09 PM
I was searching for a fast way to playback/preview footage... DrasticPreview's the name! Good job on that one
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on November 12, 2013, 03:42:47 AM
am i wrong, or it's not the same quality than dng? working with raw i cant get the same quality and colors that working with dng on acr.is there any tricks? the raw is very dark and even if i try setting with speedgrade i can't get the same colours and feeings than acr... :'(
Hi MHimihi

  We have heard about darkness from a couple of people.  Do you have a file you can share?  With the debayer, we currently use bilinear on Adobe, and a more advanced MalvarLanczos on Scratch.  We have decided to port the more advanced debayer back to Adobe and MediaComposer as well.  I will let everyone know here when it is released.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on November 12, 2013, 03:43:25 AM
I was searching for a fast way to playback/preview footage... DrasticPreview's the name! Good job on that one
Thanks very much!  :)
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: mhimhi on November 12, 2013, 09:41:51 PM
Hi MHimihi

  We have heard about darkness from a couple of people.  Do you have a file you can share?  With the debayer, we currently use bilinear on Adobe, and a more advanced MalvarLanczos on Scratch.  We have decided to port the more advanced debayer back to Adobe and MediaComposer as well.  I will let everyone know here when it is released.

very good!! howeveer those are the images.. (the first one is dng after acr, but it's almos original. the second one is raw)

(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg819%2F8858%2Fgf78.jpg&hash=8302e768e2503aebe4fb4679174fc481)
(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg132%2F4%2F5xmm.jpg&hash=a2b7cb3ef2bd3cb2fb8d8b2f0187bd88)


Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Midphase on November 13, 2013, 04:15:37 AM
Ok, decided to try this because "other" people are really dragging their feet on the Mac.

I can only play 5 frames from the CF card, is this a demo restriction or is there something else going on?

I'm running Mavericks on a MBP 2ghz i7 4-core with 16 gigs of RAM.

I'd love to give it a good run, but so far it's not playing back enough to evaluate the app.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Midphase on November 16, 2013, 07:17:35 PM
hmmm...bump?

Infinitebuzz....any insight into what is causing the 5-frame playback limit in the trial version or your product?

I have a production coming up in mid-December and I need to figure out a real-world solution to playback .raw and .mlv files on set on a laptop.

Many thanks!
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: leingad on November 19, 2013, 10:58:06 AM
Drastic preview on Mac Os 10.9 maverick on a MBA 11" haswell just won't play any of my RAW or converted DNG files...
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: jose_ugs on November 19, 2013, 01:06:24 PM
I can only play 5 frames from the CF card, is this a demo restriction or is there something else going on?
What's your cardreader? USB2 or 3? Maybe it's a bandwidth issue, and not the software...
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: dadinio13 on November 19, 2013, 04:32:24 PM
i'am on osx maverick with a usb 3.0 CF reader i have the same problem it play 5 frames and then stop playing
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Midphase on November 19, 2013, 06:36:37 PM
What's your cardreader? USB2 or 3? Maybe it's a bandwidth issue, and not the software...

Streaming off an SSD drive, I don't think it's a bandwidth issue.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Midphase on November 19, 2013, 06:38:58 PM
very good!! howeveer those are the images.. (the first one is dng after acr, but it's almos original. the second one is raw)

(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg819%2F8858%2Fgf78.jpg&hash=8302e768e2503aebe4fb4679174fc481)
(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg132%2F4%2F5xmm.jpg&hash=a2b7cb3ef2bd3cb2fb8d8b2f0187bd88)

Hey, is that guy wearing a Fiorentina scarf???
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: jose_ugs on November 19, 2013, 06:55:19 PM
Streaming off an SSD drive, I don't think it's a bandwidth issue.

You wrote "I can only play 5 frames from the CF card..." that's why i thought about bandw...
I am trying it as we speak... no problems here: i7 laptop, win7...
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: mhimhi on November 19, 2013, 07:29:06 PM

Hey, is that guy wearing a Fiorentina scarf???
.   Uahuahuahua yes! Are you Italian??
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Eran on November 19, 2013, 10:12:19 PM
Can someone say if/what the workflow from premier pro with MediaReactor WorkStation to Resolve 10 (as Resolve not recognize the ML RAW file that coming straight up from the camera ) ?
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Eran on November 19, 2013, 10:14:39 PM
Can someone say if it's passable/what the workflow from premier pro with MediaReactor WorkStation to Resolve 10 (as Resolve not recognize the ML RAW file that coming straight up from the camera ) ?

Should I export as a PNG or TIFF sequence and then relink xml with in Resolve?
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on January 09, 2014, 03:30:52 PM
hmmm...bump?

Infinitebuzz....any insight into what is causing the 5-frame playback limit in the trial version or your product?

I have a production coming up in mid-December and I need to figure out a real-world solution to playback .raw and .mlv files on set on a laptop.

Many thanks!
Hi Midphase

  Very sorry about the delay, I don't seem to be getting messages when the thread is updated!  We spent the last couple of weeks chasing this down, and we believe we have sorted it out.  There are new DrasticPreview installers up on our site that should fixed this problem.  MediaReactor Workstation installers will follow shortly.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on January 09, 2014, 03:33:21 PM
You wrote "I can only play 5 frames from the CF card..." that's why i thought about bandw...
I am trying it as we speak... no problems here: i7 laptop, win7...

Hi Eran

  Sorry for the delay, I was/am not getting thread updates at the moment.  When we get a 5~10 frame playback, it usually means we are having trouble with the audio system.  We use the audio clock as one of the ways we time A/V/M together, and if we think it is working and it doesn't we can get these short plays.  If you are still interested, PM me and we can try and sort it out.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on January 09, 2014, 03:35:09 PM
Can someone say if/what the workflow from premier pro with MediaReactor WorkStation to Resolve 10 (as Resolve not recognize the ML RAW file that coming straight up from the camera ) ?
Hi Eran

  We spoke to the product manager for Resolve and they do not have a file read plug in api, so for resolve you will have to convert to DNG or wait and see if they add RAW or MLV. 

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on January 09, 2014, 03:36:14 PM
Should I export as a PNG or TIFF sequence and then relink xml with in Resolve?
Hi Eran

  For best quality to resolve, I would convert them directly to DNG.  If you have to do a conversion step, that is going to be the best quality going into resolve.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on January 09, 2014, 03:42:56 PM
Hi All

  I have sorted out my email issue on the forum, and should be getting thread updates again.  Sorry for missing some of the comments at the end of last year.  We have spent the last couple of weeks improving our MLV and RAW support.  The first installers out are DrasticPreview for Windows and OS-X.  They are available now at

http://www.drasticpreview.com

I anyone needs temp license extensions, please request them from authorization(at)drastictech.com, and mention you are testing Magic Lantern raw for DrasticPreview (or MediaReactor Workstation when that releases).

MediaReactor Workstation for Adobe/Apple/Avid with the new processing will be out shortly, and I will update this thread.  Also, if you do not get a response here, please feel free to contact us directly at support(at)drastictech.com.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Canon eos m on January 19, 2014, 06:49:02 AM
Hi,

I downloaded the latest version of DP (Windows version). Pressing the play button, shows the videos but with pink colour cast. Anything I am doing wrong?
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: TheJuice on January 19, 2014, 05:29:34 PM
Hi,

I downloaded the latest version of DP (Windows version). Pressing the play button, shows the videos but with pink colour cast. Anything I am doing wrong?

Same here => Uninstalled it right away (I installed it only for ML Raw preview anyway), so I'll stick with MLRawViewer...
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Luzestudio on January 21, 2014, 01:32:36 PM
I just installed it on my Win64 to try it with Premiere CC.
I had to install both 64 bits and 32 bits version, to be able to import the files.
Now, when I import them I see them completely pinkish, the reproduction just lasts 5 seconds but it's smooth.

ps - email sent for temporal license...
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: jose_ugs on January 21, 2014, 05:15:29 PM
Same here as well, all pinked out
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Luzestudio on January 21, 2014, 05:44:53 PM
Screenshot:

http://i42.tinypic.com/2monwpv.jpg
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on January 21, 2014, 06:17:41 PM
Hi,

I downloaded the latest version of DP (Windows version). Pressing the play button, shows the videos but with pink colour cast. Anything I am doing wrong?
Hi All

  Sorry, I am still not getting email updates on this thread.  It looks like the debayer is shifting the raw bits incorrectly in DrasticPreview, MediaComposer and Premiere.  Not sure how this got out this way, my apologies.  The issues has been fixed and is being tested for a new release.  I will post again when the new download is available

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on January 21, 2014, 11:29:54 PM
Hi All

  The DrasticPreview and DrasticPreviewPro have been updated.  This fixes the pinkish tone introduced in the last release.  The MediaReactor Workstation fixes will be up shortly as well, and I'll update the thread.

http://www.drasticpreview.com

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on January 21, 2014, 11:54:18 PM
Hi All

  The DrasticPreview and DrasticPreviewPro have been updated.  This fixes the pinkish tone introduced in the last release.  The MediaReactor Workstation fixes will be up shortly as well, and I'll update the thread.

http://www.drasticpreview.com

Cheers, James

The matching MediaReactor Workstation for MediaComposer, Premiere, FCP, QuickTime, etc is now up as well:

http://www.mediareactor.ws

Please let us know if you need trial licenses to test them.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: duey101 on February 09, 2014, 12:43:26 PM
I just tried this out and it works to directly use RAW/MLV right off the card in Premiere Pro CC (7.2.1(4).  Seamless import/editing/output and no pink cast.  I didn't realize that I had installed the demo and then when I was running PPro I decided to try and import some MLV files into PPro... and it worked!!!  I thought it was onto some big discovery and started another thread about it...  http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10401

Now I see it is from the DMR plugin ($495.000) which I can't afford, but it does work.  Good work on your part infinitebuzz!  Unfortunately out of reach for most Indie film makers like me.  Back to MLV/DNG/LR/AE/PP/Time consuming WF.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: andy kh on February 09, 2014, 01:35:50 PM
why there is no audio while playing mlv?
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: duey101 on February 09, 2014, 05:33:52 PM
What about a Media Reactor/MLV+RAW plugin only option?  Can you guys at Drastic do something like that?  Seems like a good idea.  You have tons of options it seems.  Just an idea.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on February 10, 2014, 04:17:04 PM
What about a Media Reactor/MLV+RAW plugin only option?  Can you guys at Drastic do something like that?  Seems like a good idea.  You have tons of options it seems.  Just an idea.
Hi Duey101

  This is something we have talked about.  There is a discussion happening on this thread:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10401.0

Our only concern is that we would do the work to split it out and no one would actually buy it

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: duey101 on February 14, 2014, 05:35:44 AM
Hi Duey101
This is something we have talked about.  There is a discussion happening on this thread:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10401.0

I know, I started that thread.   ???  I have a question for you, I am testing DMR in PPro and also DP.  Whenever I open Drastic Preview this is how it looks on my screen...

(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dueymoore.com%2Fdrastic.jpg&hash=44f509c4bf7257344bd73f13ee13d687)

I'm running
Toshiba Satellite
Win 7 Ultimate x64 (SP1)
8 gigs ram
7200 rpm HD
GeForce GT 540 M GPU
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on February 17, 2014, 05:07:36 PM
I know, I started that thread.   ???  I have a question for you, I am testing DMR in PPro and also DP.  Whenever I open Drastic Preview this is how it looks on my screen...

(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dueymoore.com%2Fdrastic.jpg&hash=44f509c4bf7257344bd73f13ee13d687)

I'm running
Toshiba Satellite
Win 7 Ultimate x64 (SP1)
8 gigs ram
7200 rpm HD
GeForce GT 540 M GPU

Hi Duey101

  That is the legacy version of DrasticPreview.  It used DirectX or GDI to display the video, and is included with the current 'ClarionDT' version of DrasticPreview for older machines that do not have good OpenGL support.  There should be two links in your start menu

DrasticPreview Legacy
DrsaticPreview

The second one should point here:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\DrasticPreview\DrasticPreview.exe"

and should like the interface on our web page

http://www.drasticpreview.com

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Malex on March 06, 2014, 09:33:21 AM
Hi Duey101
This is something we have talked about.  There is a discussion happening on this thread:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10401.0
Our only concern is that we would do the work to split it out and no one would actually buy it
Cheers, James

Hi Infinitebuzz, are you giving up the idea of a MLV/RAW plugin ? :(
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on March 12, 2014, 01:43:04 AM
Hi Infinitebuzz, are you giving up the idea of a MLV/RAW plugin ? :(
Hi Malex

  It is part of our full MediaReactor product, and in our DrasticPreview and DrasticPreview Pro project.  We are thinking of breaking it out and making a cheaper MLV/RAW only version.  Still not sure, but you can download MediaReactor Workstation if you want to try it.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: thisisentourage on March 13, 2014, 07:28:45 AM
I  Recorded a Video using a Canon 50D
I'm trying to edit it in Sony Vegas and when I'm playing back the clips, they're skipping.

Any explanation of why this is occurring?

If possible, how do I resolve the matter?

Thank you ML Community, Cheers!
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on April 26, 2014, 03:02:21 AM
Hi Thisisentourage

  Was this a raw video?  I didn't know Vegas supported that.  If it is a normal compressed video, you probably need a different section to get an answer  :)

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Jbowdach on April 27, 2014, 07:24:31 AM
Id love to be involved in the beta
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on April 27, 2014, 09:52:22 PM
Id love to be involved in the beta
Hi JBowdach

  No problem.  Download and install DrasticPreview, DrasticPreview Pro or MediaReactor Workstation.  Generate a site code and email it to us.  We will send you a temporary key.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Sinubis on May 12, 2014, 02:31:20 AM
Is this test still going on?  I'm interested in testing it with Avid Media Composer.  Please let me know.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on June 04, 2014, 06:35:52 PM
FYI All:  Thanks to 'The African Attachment' we have sorted out a Premiere/MediaComposer audio bug with the current version of MLV files.  The updates are up on our site:

http://www.mediareactor.ws

Thanks, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on June 18, 2014, 04:49:45 PM
Thanks again to everyone using our plug in!  We have now added support for spanning raw files, as well as multi file MLV.  The updates can be downloaded from:

http://www.drasticpreview.com
http://www.drasticpreviewpro.com
http://www.mediareactor.ws

depending on which product you are using.  Please let us know if you find any other files or features that are not support in our software.

Cheers, James  :)
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: reddeercity on June 18, 2014, 09:27:03 PM
What about Final Cut Pro X ? I still See no Support  >:( I thought you guy are working on a plugin !
Or have you Drop the plugin Idea all together, it seem Funny that you have support for fcp7 which is a obsolete apple program
but not for X . So it looks like a Dead end Street here for fcpx or any new apple product.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on June 19, 2014, 03:47:06 PM
What about Final Cut Pro X ? I still See no Support  >:( I thought you guy are working on a plugin !
Or have you Drop the plugin Idea all together, it seem Funny that you have support for fcp7 which is a obsolete apple program
but not for X . So it looks like a Dead end Street here for fcpx or any new apple product.
Hi Reddeercity,

  Unfortunately we have had only a couple of requests for FCP-X.  We are getting users and more requests on MediaComposer, Premiere, Scratch and NuCoda - but FCPX has been flat for ML requests, and other file reader requests.  We have the API/SDK for it, but without reasonable demand, we have not been able to allocate the programmers necessary to do the work.  I would not call it a dead end, but definitely a roadblock  :)  We do support Premiere, MediaComposer and Scratch on Mac, and we will add support for any other OS-X based program were there is reasonable demand.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on July 30, 2014, 03:29:35 AM
Hi All

  There is a new update for MediaReactor Workstation for Windows 64 bit that improves handling of audio in multi part MLV files, and adds more support for multi part RAW (R00, R01) files.  It is available now at

http://www.mediareactor.ws

As always, testers and suggestions are always welcome.

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Johannes on August 13, 2014, 06:17:29 PM
Hey James,

would come the opportunity to change whitebalance? And do other stuff like you can do with the red footage in Pr? or with ACR.. like adjust darks, lights, shadows and more..
change LUT, Gama and so on??
I mean its RAW and people who shoot RAW wanna do thees things

when this and everything else works and everything this is still up to date, I will really pay 99 Dollars.

Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: Jbowdach on August 18, 2014, 07:06:41 AM
Hi All

  There is a new update for MediaReactor Workstation for Windows 64 bit that improves handling of audio in multi part MLV files, and adds more support for multi part RAW (R00, R01) files.  It is available now at

http://www.mediareactor.ws

As always, testers and suggestions are always welcome.

Cheers, James

Hello James,

Id be happy to test it out with MLV. How can I get on the beta list, as I i remember I previously had licensing issues with the beta.

Thanks, Jason
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on March 10, 2015, 02:53:34 AM
Hi All

  There is a new QuickTime component that support MLV and RAW available for 99$.  It works with the Adobe suite and any other QuickTime enabled software.  If you want to try it, you can download it from

http://www.mr4qt.com

IB
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: The Director on March 11, 2015, 08:50:22 PM
"If you want to try it, you can download it from"

very bad((( debayerization only for draft material
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: N/A on March 20, 2015, 04:42:34 AM
Hi All

  There is a new QuickTime component that support MLV and RAW available for 99$.  It works with the Adobe suite and any other QuickTime enabled software.  If you want to try it, you can download it from

http://www.mr4qt.com

IB

Awesome, been looking for a product like this for quite some time. Needing a different media player for every format is a royal pain, especially with raw and prores files. I'll give the demo a shot, I'm definitely interested to see how well it runs.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 20, 2015, 05:04:42 AM
Totally worth looking into & Thanks for sharing @infinitebuzz!
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: N/A on March 20, 2015, 07:35:02 AM
Found a major issue right after installing. When importing dng's into After Effects that have been converted from mlv's, After Effects detects the file format as QuickTime, thereby preventing one from importing as a camera raw image sequence and adjusting the footage with Adobe Camera Raw. Also, importing an mlv straight into After Effects works, but the debayering is very poor. Are there work-arounds for these issues?
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: achangsta on March 30, 2015, 03:39:46 AM
@Infinitebuzz, Mediareactor v5 works great with MLV files natively in Premiere and After effects. It plays back pretty much real time, which is great. This is exactly what I've been looking for!

Has there been any progress with creating an ACR-like module that can edit the raw metadata, similar to how it works with Red footage? See the video at 00:40 for what I mean.
. There was discussion about this functionality from 2013 but I haven't seen anything about it since.
Title: Re: Raw video previewer and plugins for Mac/Window, FCP, Premiere, Avid, Scratch
Post by: infinitebuzz on March 08, 2018, 09:26:45 PM
Hi All

  There are two new plugin sets available for MLV:

MediaReactor Lite for Avid
http://www.drastic.tv/40-mediareactor/mediareactorws/282-mediareactorliteavid
MediaReactor Lite for Adobe
http://www.drastic.tv/productsmenu-56/mediareactorlist/mediareactor-lite-adobe

They are both available for 99$ and contain plugins for multiple camera raw formats, mov quicktime without quicktime player and Panasonic/Sony MP4 support.  Trial licenses are also available

J