700D.111 - Alpha Build [16082013]
WARNING : THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT BUILD, I WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE THAT MAY OCCUR IN USING THIS.
You can find a build by others here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH4coVqWfkA
P.S : My changes have been merged to the Magic-Lantern BitBucket now.
Updated by Renato:
Use this thread for RAW video on 700D/T5i
For the latest builds go here:
Nightly Builds - try the very latest stuff here
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3072.0
A nice guide here:
http://dslrmonster.blogspot.com/2013/11/installing-magic-lantern-pre-alpha-on.html
I've been tried to instal this, appears only a message: "EnableBootDisk"
Someone can explain me what is that?
I fixed it using MacBoot for create a bootable disk :)
Great work with the 700D. Did you fix the lockup when chaning modes? If so, it's time for a 700D installer then :D
Quote from: nanomad on August 17, 2013, 10:40:10 AM
Great work with the 700D. Did you fix the lockup when chaning modes? If so, it's time for a 700D installer then :D
Yes, its actually pretty stable right now (from what I have tested anyway).
I just installed ML on a small SD card and switched the 700D on and .... so far so good.
The first time I switched on the camera it said "Enable boot disk". I made this sd card bootable in Ubuntu with Gparted by setting the bootflag on.
But this was not enough I think. So I used EOScard.exe on a Windows computer and selected "EOS_develop" and "Bootdisk" in the menu and then copied the necessary files on the SD card and the problem was solved.
I did go through all the menus and there is a lot off stuff in it.
Everything seems to be very logical.
Thank you guys for this great work.
If I should find some strange things then I will give some feedback.
Great oodles of thanks! I have ML installed on a 32Gb card in my 700D and it sure looks like it's going to be fun. I too will let you know about any glitches that may arise. Smashing work.
nice work, guys, and thanks. i'll let you know if i notice anything.
Magic Zoom displays a heavy flicker that renders it unusable and there is no audio tab as yet but it all looks quite stable.
+1 on the mzoom flicker, no audio yet.
also, when i press the play button, all is good. page through... fine. press play again to go back to shooting, doesn't respond. toggling live view resets or turning the camera off and on.
great job, thanks. today is my birthday and ML for my new T5i is the best gift...
Another niggle, if I may: After changing the White Balance setting in the ML menu, going back to AWB is quite a rigmarole, for some reason. I can tap the screen back to AWB but the setting in the camera's own menu still reads Custom. The problem is that I cannot tell for sure which one is operative when I take the shot. Do I make sense?
My last ungrateful moan for today is about the Exposure Compensation scale that is apt to flash at bottom right for no apparent reason, but only occasionally, and I am almost ashamed of mentioning it. Really. Many thanks again.
Used for 6 hours straight didn't have to remove battery or power cycle. Only issue I ran into was using ML to take a set of bracketed exposures. Once after turning off the bracket exposure option it left the exposure set to -5
My 1st DSLR and 1st shot with Magic Lantern.... LOVE IT!
Only issue I have had, and I may just be blind, is what if I want to remove the bootflag?
That and I need a faster card for RAW video....but that is my problem!
I have switched on the Focus Peak and if I connect an external screen with a HDMI cable then I get a horizontal bar of dots on the screen like this:
(http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/838/gdlo.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/gdlo.png/)
This problem only occurs when the Image Buffer is set to Low-res.
This problem is not very consistent because yesterday I had no Horizontal bar of dots but it where random dots on the screen, described like in this topic: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5119.msg30648#msg30648 , the only difference was that I had this problem in both Photo and Video mode.
For the rest, everything is working great without any crashes.
shooting cinestyle. getting a halo in video mode. same settings. anybody have any ideas what is causing this?
http://wacru.com/Images/normal.jpg
http://wacru.com/Images/halo.jpg
thanks.
Quote from: wacru1 on August 19, 2013, 09:49:02 PM
shooting cinestyle. getting a halo in video mode. same settings. anybody have any ideas what is causing this?
http://wacru.com/Images/normal.jpg
http://wacru.com/Images/halo.jpg
thanks.
Seems to be the vignetting.
(Magic Lantern menu > Movie > Vignetting)
Also I cannot find the Arrow/SET shortcuts anywhere but no doubt that will appear in a later build. That pesky blinking exposure compensation scale is just a tad annoying, though.
Enable the display sensor under misc key settings and use it to trigger them
Hi guys,
I was pleasantly surprised to see that the mode for the 700d moving faster than I thought and I want to thank you all.
I would try to install it but I'm lost because I don't know what download ML file. In fact on the subject there several links.
More I looking the 650D changelog (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/demgitqk7a6ixsv/xNKyF29iM8/ChangeLog.txt) i see that 700d is referenced, does this mean I can download 650D ML version for 700d?
Satriani has posted a link that redirects to dropbox and I thank him, but there is no change in 3 days, is this normal?
Quote from: nanomad on August 20, 2013, 11:14:43 AM
Enable the display sensor under misc key settings and use it to trigger them
Well I'm damned if I can find anything like Misc Key settings anywhere. Another problem is that ML will not let me record RAW video at all no matter what king of setting I use, manual, auto, any res, PAL or NTSC; I get some kind of coloured graph with a line telling me that 40 odd frames were taken and '1 frame skipped' in red. There was a warning once that recording had stopped and that it was a bug that I should report. Normal and HDR video have no problems.
Perhaps we should cool down the hysteria a bit and let you guys do the thing in your own good time; I'm sure it will all come out beautifully in the end.
Quote from: Denisad on August 20, 2013, 05:21:43 PM
Well I'm damned if I can find anything like Misc Key settings anywhere. Another problem is that ML will not let me record RAW video at all no matter what king of setting I use, manual, auto, any res, PAL or NTSC; I get some kind of coloured graph with a line telling me that 40 odd frames were taken and '1 frame skipped' in red. There was a warning once that recording had stopped and that it was a bug that I should report. Normal and HDR video have no problems.
Perhaps we should cool down the hysteria a bit and let you guys do the thing in your own good time; I'm sure it will all come out beautifully in the end.
I "think" that just means your SD card is too slow.... I can get roughly 70-90 frames before I get the same error using 720p and down. anything higher and it conks out is 1-5 frames flat. I could be wrong, just what I experienced.
A 32GB grade 10 SunDisk Ultra? Well I hope you are wrong. And since you're here, do you have the Arrow/SET and Misc Key Settings in your Prefs menu, because I don't.
I tried Follow Focus but it doesn't react on the up/down/left/right keys.
Edit: I got Follow Focus working now after disabling the Movie Servo AF.
I just wanted to say how amazing this is! I bought my first DSLR a few weeks ago (700D) and have been playing with the standard features.
I mod just about every electronic device I own and after doing a bit of research on the ML website I downloaded the files from TheUnkn0wn and everything worked perfectly first time!
I'm used to messing around for a couple of days, possibly bricking the device multiple times before anything will get running.
But the development on ML is first class! thanks again guys.
Quote from: TheUnkn0wn on August 17, 2013, 12:08:04 AM
700D.111 - Alpha Build [16082013]
WARNING : THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT BUILD, I WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE THAT MAY OCCUR IN USING THIS.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/65ixtqnkove2ztt/700D.111-16082013-ML.zip
P.S : My changes have been merged to the Magic-Lantern BitBucket now.
Thank You so much for this!! :) It works great! :)
Quote from: Denisad on August 18, 2013, 04:12:41 PM
Magic Zoom displays a heavy flicker that renders it unusable and there is no audio tab as yet but it all looks quite stable.
Quote from: wacru1 on August 18, 2013, 05:02:44 PM
also, when i press the play button, all is good. page through... fine. press play again to go back to shooting, doesn't respond. toggling live view resets or turning the camera off and on.
Same problems here :)
Quote from: Denisad on August 18, 2013, 05:55:57 PM
Another niggle, if I may: After changing the White Balance setting in the ML menu, going back to AWB is quite a rigmarole, for some reason. I can tap the screen back to AWB but the setting in the camera's own menu still reads Custom. The problem is that I cannot tell for sure which one is operative when I take the shot.
In my case when I'm NOT on LV, it shows K<value>. After I press Q button, there is a empty field that I can change for one of Canon's presets.
Quote from: asilnevs on August 20, 2013, 07:55:45 PM
I tried Follow Focus but it doesn't react on the up/down/left/right keys.
It works for me.
One more time - thank You very very much! :)
Oh dear, it must be something I said, then.
If you update your files as you go along will you let us know about it on these pages, TheUnknOwn, or will it become included into a future 'official' release and should we wait for that?
@ lifanek:
I got Follow Focus working now after disabling the Movie Servo AF. Thanks.
And it's also possible to choose Auto White Balance in the Live View Mode. Just press the Quick button and then there is also an empty button on the screen. Select this and then just press on the AWB button on the screen, this is not possible to do with the left/right/up/down buttons.
Have You guys tried to format Your card inside camera and leaving ML on it? When I try to do it, after restoring ML files it says "Writing bootflags..." and it hangs ;/ I have to turn off/on or remove battery. After that everything is ok, but ML is not loading (it's still on the card).
Edit: I made my card bootable in MacBoot (left everything on it as it was) and it works perfectly - all my settings are there etc.
Yes, same here, apart from those missing settings.
Quote from: lllrinzlerlll on August 21, 2013, 01:25:11 AM
But the development on ML is first class!
That's true!!! :)
I have a problem after playing a recorded video, I must press the "menu" button, or remove batterie to continue to use my 700d. I did not think to do a test with a photo.
I have same problem, it was mentioned earlier - just press live view button when You r in playback
has anyone here been successful in getting any useful dual-iso shots from the 700D? cr2hdr doesn't even convert them, complains about the interlacing method not being supported. It seems to me that the 700D has another line interleaving scheme than the 5Dm3. cr2hdr reports "BddB RGGB" for the 5Dm3 and "BdBd RGGB" for the 700D. Page 5 of dual_iso.pdf talks about an interleaving pattern of l,l,H,H,l,l,H,H... for the 5Dm3, but I think the 700D uses something like l,l,l,l,H,H,H,H,l,l,l,l,H,H,H,H....
To illustrate, I cropped the first top left 32x32 pixel out of a 5Dm3 and 700D CR2, respectively:
(http://daduke.org/junk/5dm3_v_700d.png)
Needless to say, current cr2hdr interpolation algorithms do not like this.
any ideas?
thanks,
-Christian
Hello! I'd like to try the alpha 700d. I have the fireware on my SD card but I do not know how to install it on the 700d. I can not find the tab with the update, which allows me to install the fireware.
Thank you for helping me :)
(Message translated from French)
here's what i did.
low-level format the card in the camera.
on the PC, extract the 700...zip file to the sdcard.
with the card still plugged into the PC, run eoscard, check both eos_develop and bootdisk. it should list the fir file. click save. it should say "write successful"
no other steps.
put the card in the camera and turn it on. you should see the normal info screen, then the ml bars top and bottom. press the trash icon to get the ml menus.
Also run the firmware update from the camera's menu.
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Needless to say, current cr2hdr interpolation algorithms do not like this.
EOSM has the same problem.
Quote from: 1% on August 31, 2013, 10:52:24 AM
EOSM has the same problem.
I have the impression that they're not using HHllHHll, but rather 4 each. I haven't understood cr2hdr's code sufficiently in order to propose a fix yet, though.
while we're at it: is there a current M repo I could check out and compile? tragic lantern doesn't seem to be it...
thanks,
-Christian
Tragic lantern 6D has eosm 2.0.2 and the built module should work on both. We just turned off the bit that makes it do 8 lines instead of 4.
Quote from: 1% on September 01, 2013, 09:09:38 PM
Tragic lantern 6D has eosm 2.0.2 and the built module should work on both. We just turned off the bit that makes it do 8 lines instead of 4.
roger, got it. thanks.
raw_rec or silent short on my 700D return are strange *.DNG file
In the center of the frame can see a clear pattern of artifacts, most likely from the phase-detection AF pixels.
I could not find information about this problem and how it can be solved.
Example:
JPG: http://ubuntuone.com/3yLmEA6BH2izIDANlna7At (http://ubuntuone.com/3yLmEA6BH2izIDANlna7At)
DNG: http://ubuntuone.com/4zuGhoHI5v3Fp2KoXXkzSu (http://ubuntuone.com/4zuGhoHI5v3Fp2KoXXkzSu)
Try using pink dot remover for the 650D
i'd think twice about installing java (needed by red dot remover). i found this:
"There's already a superior way than either of these for now. In Lightroom or ACR, turn Noise Removal in both Luminance and Color all the way up and then adjust the detail sliders until just around the point where the dots disappear enough. Finish developing the rest of the settings (exposure, vibrance, brushes, graduated filters, WB, etc) then just select all the photos in LR or Bridge and sync your develope settings. Voila."
works well. i'm trying to find the best export settings from LR... the rest of the workflow to vegas... it didn't like the altered tiffs. i'll try other formats.
Quote from: wacru1 on September 07, 2013, 06:51:33 PM
i'd think twice about installing java (needed by red dot remover). i found this:
Are you serious? )) Have you tried that method yourself?
There is no better solution so far then PDR tool (if you concerned in quality at all)
yes. after some fiddling, i was able to get the dots to go away.
Quote from: wacru1 on September 08, 2013, 05:58:38 AM
yes. after some fiddling, i was able to get the dots to go away.
Would you mind to share your result as well as source dng?
sorry, i'm away from my work computer.
i was working with tiffs from one of the xx2xx converters. i was able to remove the dots using LR's noise reduction. only tried it on one clip. it looked acceptable to me, no artifacts. i then synced all images and exported as tiffs. when i got the repaired tiffs into vegas, they didn't play smoothly.
i'm trying to find the right workflow to edit in vegas. doing the cc first (before editing) in LR is odd, but i could work that way. what workflows are you guys using?
Hi... i'm very noob in this matter so please, don't judge me...
I've recently bought the 700d and now i've decided to try the magic lantern software...
I follow the instructions and used the build 700D.111-16082013-ML.zip which someone posted here and everything was installed
But now i've wanted to unninstal it... and i can't use this instruction
Uninstalling ML from the camera
BootdiskDisabled
With a Magic Lantern card, launch the Firmware Update process and follow the instructions on-screen.
Because it just comes back to the main menu without any instruction screen...
I've already remove the magic lantern from the card but as soon as i put the files back in the card the camera boots it ut without even need to reinstal it (which i believe it means that it's bootflag is up and running)
How can I remove it??
had the same question a while back... no answer either
I have been using ML with T4i, and in fact more than happy with my main controls : Higher bit rate, Color in Kelvin, Peaking slightly sharper and many other features.
Very stable. In fact Happy. Thank you ML. Team. Now that I need a spare body have been looking for the T5i, and ML can be installed, which is great but after previous comments, I wonder if the most important functions I use are stable, or if should we wait for a new bootflag.fir . Does it crash frequently yet ?
Is it as stable as the T4i ? ;D
I haven't had a crash yet....
Great Thank you, but that issue, after play back can not return to video mode, was solved ? ;D
After playback you just have to press the shutter release button to go back to video mode ;)
Fantastic, Great team Magic Lantern 1.8 Bit rate+T4i+T5i + Mosaic Engineering VAF, Best cameras ever produced by Canon
8)
Hey folks, just want to say hello.....
I upgraded my 450d to a 700d this week. First Step after unboxing, was installing ML on it.
Works fine since installing, no problems yet.
For now there is one question.
If changes on the 650d branches occour, would they automatic applyed to the 700d branch, because they are mostly the same cameras?
At the moment i use the nightly builds.
Thank you guys for the awesome work.
Greetz
Quote from: wacru1 on August 28, 2013, 09:14:36 PM
here's what i did.
low-level format the card in the camera.
on the PC, extract the 700...zip file to the sdcard.
with the card still plugged into the PC, run eoscard, check both eos_develop and bootdisk. it should list the fir file. click save. it should say "write successful"
no other steps.
put the card in the camera and turn it on. you should see the normal info screen, then the ml bars top and bottom. press the trash icon to get the ml menus.
trying to follow your steps. For some reason the needed fir is not listed in the eoscard list, what I see is either "unified 2.3" or "ports in progress" with 1100d or 5d alpha etc, no 700d in the list
to be clear - the ML zip was extracted to the card, so there is a folder "magiclantern...etc"
any help is appreciated!
Guys with 700D, I need a bit of help from you.
In order to small hacks works properly on 650D, we should find the timer address. We tried to do this by compare with 550d and 600d, but no luck. 700D is may be somewhat closer to 650D, so we need a ROM1.BIN from your camera.
Just turn it on in video mode with raw_rec enabled, go to ML menu — Debug — Dump ROM and RAM, push it, wait until dumping is done, then go to your SD card — ML — LOGS, and just sed me the ROM1.BIN
Just a couple of minutes, PM me please.
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UPD. Nevermind, problem solved (thanks to mk11174). Thank you.
is my sd card too slow for raw? i'm using a 16gb sandisk ultra @ 30mb/s (class 10 sdhc) and everytime i try to record, recording starts and then stops (recording has stopped automagically). i've tried different resolutions and different frame rates.
***UPDATE***
i brought the res down to 720 and now i get the following error:
early stop (9). this is a bug, please report it.
Where i can download 700D.111-16082013-ML.zip ?
I started testing raw video with my T5i but am getting noise banding no matter what settings I try. I'm not getting any frame dropouts or stoppages whilst recording so I think the settings are ok.The video below was shot with the following settings:
Raw Video:
* Resolution 1280x536
*Aspect Ratio 2.39:1
Any help would be appreciated.
https://vimeo.com/82719567
Ok, found it here;
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.0
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Hello all 700D+ML users,
I understand that ML for 700D is not even beta yet. Risks aside, I want to try it out for its focus peaking feature. I am not getting an idea that after disabling bootflag on card, formatting the card and removing all traces of ML, do I automatically get back to default canon firmware? Or do I need to make changes in camera again? What if my card is not bootable and neither has ML on it, and yet my camera wants to look into to boot up?
May be the question is foolish one, but an answer will be highly obliging!
Thanks devs and everyone here..
First most, lurking for months. Everyone at magic lantern is awesome!
My question is,
I got the installed down, the boot disk and so on but still can't get raw video feature? I have read several posts, several times and what I seem to be missing is the files.
Magic.sys
raw_rec.mo
I see raw_rec.mo in Module directory but I believe I must update file? Do I move it?
Canon t5i.
Thank you for help,
~mad
Just installed after getting a new 700D this weekend. Its replacing... or actually accompaning a 550D of mine.
Installed Nightly build working like a charm.
Testing out Raw video gives me, first of all - very dissapointing quality. Still playing around with settings. My card promisses 45 Mb/sec but only manages 37. So need new card. Any experience with a good card for 700D and what can the camera actually write?
About the RAW video, attached here is a screenshot. I am getting a really strange pattern - only on RAW. Small dots. Any ideas how to remove?
(http://s15.postimg.org/eru7p38vf/Capture.jpg)
To remove the auto focus pattern of dots use chroma smoothing, like CS 2x2, in whatever you're using going RAW or MLV to DNG. Alternative is pink dot remover (PDR) I think but never tried it.
Like you I'm using a 700d and 550d. I'm using Sandisk 95mb/s for the 700d and Sandisk 45mb/s for 550d. Recent builds with SRM module which doubles record time, making the 550d more usable for raw again and doesn't have the focus screen dots to remove.
Great to see another 700D/T5i RAW shooter here!
To echo dyfid, that is correct. What your seeing in terms of the red dots is typical of these cameras operating under these circumstances. Its not exclusive to just your camera, so dont feel too disappointed!
The card write speeds are ultimately limited by not just to the SD memory card, but more so the SD memory card controller in the 700D/T5i camera itself. The controller is capped out @ approx 41.5 MByte/sec write speed. So far from what we've seen, this max. speed can only be achieved by use of Photo mode benchmarks, and im not 100% sure if those numbers really achievable in real-world use.
Having said that, the "Video" mode benchmarks, which are again, synthetic, are only able to really achieve 37-38 MBytes/sec.
Take a look at the Memory cards I have tested personally here:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12630.0
Ive been able to reach the max. write speeds that have been reported with the 700D/T5i with the Kingston SDA Series cards. They are approx 30% less expensive then the higher-end Sandisk cards, FYI.
Regarding your mention of "playing with the settings" understand that the RAW footage your viewing is exactly that. RAW.
Your best served utilizing professional editing/color grading suites such as Adobe Premier Pro CC, After Effects CC, and SpeedGrade CC to get the most out of your RAW video files.
Hope this helps
Bropa
Hey guys,
im wondering if anyone of you can shoot in 24p 1280/720 raw continuously ?
In another thread it says our t5i is able to do so !
But my recording stops after exactly 2:18. I am using a sundisk extreme with 45mb/s.
Will an upgrade to the extreme pro verison with 95 mb/s solve this problem ?
I have the same question as THANKMELATER. I've been trying to get continuous video out of 700D but it stops (frames skipping) at around 2 minutes with RAW without sound and after 1 min with MLV with sound. Im using a sandisk 32gb 45mb/s card. Also THANKMELATER do you have a link to the post where they talk about it being able to do continous video?
Nevermind I was able to figure it out. I am now able to get continuous RAW video 1280/720 @24 fps with a 32GB sandisk 45mb/s card! Unfortunately I can only get about 1:50 of MLV with sound which is still a lot better than before. If anyone has figured out how to get closer to 3-4 minutes of MLV with sound please let me know how you did it. Thanks guys!
Did you change your memory card only? I have the same problem of frame skipping. Also I don't get audio options such has changing dB values. Got EOS 700D. Thanks
Hey !
I will post here what i wrote to jaelill in a PM. This worked for me and for him :
Hey!
there is a thread about raw with the 650D. It has about 20 pages so I will try to summarize what helps to get continious video.
1. Right card : I have a sandisk extreme 45 mb/s. This is the minimum you need I guess
2. Format the Card to EXFAT !!! This is important. Format as Exfat with 128 Kilobits
3. Raw Photo : In CANON Menu you can choose the picture quality. Choose RAW
4. Disable GLobal draw in ML Menu.
5. Shoot !
Hope this helps but if you got the right card and format it proberly this will work 100 %
High, all. First post.
I've installed ML on two 16gig cards - one which writes 45 and the other at 95 and I'm having the same results on each with RAW. Basically, I'm getting frame drops at a few seconds in at 720. As I compromise resolution, it climbs but where it records continuously is at a miserable resolution.
I'm new to ML, so I feel I'm probably doing something wrong. Global is off. Using T5i (obviously) and a T1.5 Cine lens.
Anyone got any suggestions how I can get a better RAW experience?
Resolution is limited because Canon decided to use a bandwidth limited sd-card interface for the cam.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9848.msg133878#msg133878
Thanks for the reply, Walter.
I get that the t5i is limited by that bottleneck, but others seem to be getting much better results at 720, or just slightly below. (For instance, a few posts up.) The best I get is 5 seconds. Do you think that's the best I can get out of this camera?
720p@24 should be no problem.
There are two common errors causing stopping after such short time.
- You loaded and activated MLV_REC + RAW_REC at the same time
- Your cards are faked. Run card R/W benchmark from module tab in playback mode. Start benchmark and press play button immediately.
Turn global draw off.
EDIT: My experience with t4i shows ML RAW/MLV recording will do much better with cards formatted with ExFAT file system. You have to do it using a cardreader and be aware you will unable to use the cam's format option or you will wipe ExFAT. And you have to reinstall ML for each card after converting to ExFAT.
Only way to avoid this mess is to use a card with 64 GByte or up. Then cam will format the card with ExFAT, too.
Cheers for that.
I got the cards from Best Buy, so I'd be surprised if they were fake. Well, maybe a little surprised.
I'll try buying a big card with exFAT and see if that works.
In the meantime, I deactivated RAW 1.0 and not much changed, though I probably did load them at the same time. (But only one activated at a time.)
All other features (that I've tried) are working brilliantly.
You should do a benchmark test run for each card you own. Faked cards are widely spread.
And after you confirmed write rate is about 40 MByte/s you can go after the error in your configuration. 5 seconds record duration is way too short, even with FAT32.
Right. So I think I have a card problem.
Card 1, a PNY 16Gig Elite Performance 90MB/s performed the test and at its largest buffer wrote at 18.5 MB/s.
Card 2, a SanDisk 16Gig Ultra PLUS 48MB/s performed the test and at its largest buffer wrote at 13.1 MB/s.
The thing is, I bought both separately and from a reputable big box dealer. Those are long odds for both cards being bunk, aren't they?
Have you been in playback mode?
Benchmark log is kept in BENCHx.PPM on the cards root. You can convert it to JPEG and upload it to a filehoster. Should look like this.
(http://picload.org/image/clcopiw/bench1.jpg)
Not much changed. On the better card I'm getting 18.5 MB/s write and 42.3 read at the largest buffer in playback mode.
The PNY seems to be faked: http://www.xatakafoto.com/analisis-y-pruebas/tarjetas-sdhc-uhs-i-high-performance-y-elite-performance-de-pny-analisis
The SanDisk however seems to be within specifications. 48 MB/s is for read operation only. SanDisk doesn't give a number for write performance. The only thing you will find is something like "Write is lower". Which means the card has to do 10 MByte/s to meet "Class 10" specs.
Didn't find benchmarks for 16 GB type but for 32 GB. Because controller chip may be different one can't know for sure what the 16 GByte is able to do but the 32 GByte type has been tested to do about 12 MByte/s.
http://www.storagereview.com/sandisk_ultra_plus_sd_memory_card_review_32gb
I can confirm Canon 700D can rec RAW video to 16gb SanDisk Extreme 45mb/s card... continuosly 1536x594 24p... with lower resolution you can rec even 50fps... with this card my 700D at around 36-38 mb/s at bench...
ML - THE GREATESTS!!!!
I can't record more than about 150 frames of RAW video on my 700d. I just did a benchmark test and here's what I got:
Read speed (buffer=16384k): 42.1 MB/s
Write speed (buffer=16384k): 20.2 MB/s
Read speed (buffer=16384k): 43.3 MB/s
Write speed (buffer=15625k): 20.2 MB/s
Read speed (buffer=15625k): 43.4 MB/s
Write speed (buffer=4096k): 20.2 MB/s
Read speed (buffer=4096k): 41.9 MB/s
Write speed (buffer=3906k): 18.8 MB/s
Read speed (buffer=3906k): 41.3 MB/s
Write speed (buffer=2048k): 19.8 MB/s
Read speed (buffer=2048k): 40.0 MB/s
Write speed (buffer=1953k): 17.4 MB/s
Read speed (buffer=1953k): 38.5 MB/s
Write speed (buffer=128k): 11.5 MB/s
Read speed (buffer=128k): 17.7 MB/s
Does this mean I need a faster SD card?
I'm looking to shoot RAW video to improve my green screen scene quality. Do you have any other suggestions than shooting RAW? I'm looking to shoot videos that are about 5 min long.
Thanks for your help.
Sorry, essential information missing.
There is a file written to card's root. It will tell which benchmark mode you were using. There are 3:
Playback: Fastest
Photo: Second one
Movie: Slowest
Press Play button after starting benchmark for Playback mode. Turn Global draw off.
@ric.pce
QuoteI'm looking to shoot RAW video to improve my green screen scene quality. Do you have any other suggestions than shooting RAW?
Yes, shoot h.264. Light everything good. Light Subject and Screen with different sets of lights. The subject should not wear green or colors with green in them. Keep the subject away from the screen. Keep shadows off of the screen. Post...I use After Effects and Premiere for keying. If you dont use AE then these tips may not be useful. In post crank up the green. Effect: SelectiveColor. Set Colors dropdown to Green, set Cyan, Yellow and Black values to 100% Set magenta to -100%. The green should begin to "pop". You can duplicate the Selective Color Effect...CTRL+D. Now you have two Selective Color effects. The green should be very green. Move onto Keylight Effect. Eye dropper the green close to the subjects face or hair. Go into the color panel and pull the green down and to the left. You should see improvement with that action, more green being removed. Switch view to Screen Matte. Now you have to dig into the settings.Screen Gain...go easy, make small tweaks, you will probably increase this value by 10-20 points. Screen balance somewhere between 40 and 60.
Screen Matte settings. Clip Black and Clip white...make small changes to these settings. Generally you will want to shrink the matte 1-3. Go easy on softness and Despot Black and White settings. Clip rollback can be slightly increased. While you make these adjustments flip back and forth between Screen Matte view and Final Result view. You may have some green fringe on the subject. Describing the removal of fringe is not easy. Precomposing, Mattes, secondary color correction, multiple layers are all in the mix possibly. To finish I link the project back to PP and use mattes and secondary color correction to get the best look possible. Many of the tips I provided coincide with this tutorial from 8bitdigitaltv.
I don't use the matte method described at the end of this tut but it is a good workflow and might help you reach your goal of better final results with your green screen work.
Here I show original footage look and work in progress look of project I am working on.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-4Lg-sjsw0eVEJIWGNzQkQtYW8/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-4Lg-sjsw0eVEJIWGNzQkQtYW8/view?usp=sharing)
You can shoot h.264 and get great chromakey. You need a workflow that works and I hope you find one that works for you.
Peace and Cheers,
Kihlbahkt
@distortx
1536x594 24p - how to set that? In My 700D ML menu shows 1600x600 in 2.35:1 with 43mb/s write (if I remember, I don't have my 700D in my hand to check that).
Quote1536x594 24p - how to set that? In My 700D ML menu shows 1600x600
You can access to them resolutions by using the right\left arrow keys instead of pressing set\Q button.
Hello guys, by your tests, which is the maximum resolution at continuous 24 or 25fps in crop mode available? I always use black bars, so the crop mode would be the best way to shoot right? Thanks!
Am quite confused about which of the many options I should be using to record RAW.
and that was before I found this thread!
Should I be using this build, the nightly build, or the 4k build I am currently using.
I also have the copy_rec and mlv_lite modules installed.
So far I am getting 10b L/L @ 1736x1160
Also using Switch to convert to ProRes.
Thanks
Quote from: ric.pce on February 15, 2015, 05:23:47 PM
Does this mean I need a faster SD card?
I'm looking to shoot RAW video to improve my green screen scene quality. Do you have any other suggestions than shooting RAW? I'm looking to shoot videos that are about 5 min long.
Yes, you need a faster card. You should be able to get at least 30+MB/s write speeds for ML RAW without the SD card hack. IIRC I was able to record 1600x680 in 10-bit RAW continuously.
Quote from: Edgley on April 11, 2018, 02:30:50 PM
Am quite confused about which of the many options I should be using to record RAW.
and that was before I found this thread!
Should I be using this build, the nightly build, or the 4k build I am currently using.
I also have the copy_rec and mlv_lite modules installed.
So far I am getting 10b L/L @ 1736x1160
Also using Switch to convert to ProRes.
It sounds like you're doing things right. There's not much info when starting out with ML unfortunately.
Does anyone know how to enable resolutions above 1792 in crop mode for 700D?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Edit: found it on p55 of the crop_rec thread!
Summary for 700D:
- Turn on camera and go into movie mode
- Press the zoom in button (looks like a magnifying glass with a plus sign - on the top-right of the rear panel) - it will show "X1" on the right-hand-side of the screen
- Press it again - it will show a B&W zoomed in preview with "X5" instead of "X1"
- Now press the trash button to get into ML menu and now the resolutions above 1792 are available
If you're also using the sd_uhs hack then run that before you go into the zoomed preview mode. You can run it in there but it seems to take ages for some reason.
The "X5" mode will give a slow B&W preview while recording. If you hit the zoom in button a third time then you get a fast colour x10 zoom preview and also while recording, which might be good for checking focus while recording? Anyway, it's worth noting.
Press loupe/magnify button once, then enter raw/mlv settings.