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Developing Magic Lantern => Feature Requests => Topic started by: stevefal on September 07, 2013, 12:47:30 AM

Title: Kill help menu
Post by: stevefal on September 07, 2013, 12:47:30 AM
I think the Help menu is mostly worthless and not likely a priority in the future. I'd rather see continued effort into overall usability, intuitive design and in-context assistance. For example, individual menu items could have Help sub-items (or INFO press) for in-depth information as needed.

Clean out the dead wood.
Title: Re: Kill help menu
Post by: falkor on September 07, 2013, 01:35:12 AM
agreed...
and including the debug section to a point- .at least on the "don't click me!" (i can sse its usable for devs, but not stable releases)
but
i use the battery, shutter count, and show tasks (kinda like the 'top' command).

i recently tried the screenshot after 10sec, but all that did was beep quietly, and not (afaik) take a ss of my view.

also, agree on the help files, (which i would volunteer to help write too), as the info button does work (on my 60d, it brings up the dedicatd or highlighted item selected to a new screen) but then continues with all the man-pages in order.... i think that is good, but also could be better if it would scroll automatically after the initial page has been read, (as i don't like pushing the buttons on the 60d :( ... thats just me though
Title: Re: Kill help menu
Post by: a1ex on September 07, 2013, 05:36:56 AM
The primary purpose for the help menu is to tell you the navigation keys (it's supposed to appear first time after install). Many people don't know about how to open submenus, how to enter the Junkie mode, or how to change any setting with LiveView visible underneath.

What about adding a small box with common keys on the "about" page that pops once per day? (could serve as a reminder)

Or "tip of the day" (selected randomly).
Title: Re: Kill help menu
Post by: stevefal on September 07, 2013, 06:25:08 AM
How about a first-time use Tips page that always shows upon startup (and possibly trash), until disabled. It could then be turned ON again in Preferences, if desired.

QuoteMany people don't know about how to open submenus

Don't get me started.  ::)
Title: Re: Kill help menu
Post by: a1ex on September 07, 2013, 06:30:26 AM
Yeah, I've still seen questions like "how do you change intervalometer duration"...
Title: Re: Kill help menu
Post by: stevefal on September 07, 2013, 07:41:30 AM
Just press SET of course!  ::)

Intervalometer
        Enabled                     OFF
        Take a pic every         5s
        Start after                  3s
        Stop after                  Disabled
        Manual focus ramp     OFF


(and Q for quick ON/OFF!)
Title: Re: Kill help menu
Post by: a1ex on September 07, 2013, 07:43:19 AM
No thanks; the modules tab was like that and I didn't like it.
Title: Re: Kill help menu
Post by: stevefal on September 07, 2013, 07:53:25 AM
Whoops, missed the top toggle:

Intervalometer                   OFF
        Enabled                     OFF
        Take a pic every         5s
        Start after                  3s
        Stop after                  Disabled
        Manual focus ramp     OFF

The module tab was like what?
Title: Re: Kill help menu
Post by: a1ex on September 07, 2013, 07:57:55 AM
Module: click SET, toggle autorun, go back. Choose next module, SET, SET, back.

Now: set/down/set/down/set/down.

Q is not the natural choice for this, as discussed previously.
Title: Re: Kill help menu
Post by: stevefal on September 07, 2013, 08:13:37 AM
Hah, of course I remember..

If I could only get you to see that Q/down/Q/down/Q/down will be just fine after you adjust.

It will solve so...many...problems.

Anyway, <insert old arguments here>.