I've done some tests in 3.5k raw and I have to say the quality is AMAZING! The image is unbelievable sharp and clean.
Shot at 24fps (override) for 2 seconds (48f) and slowed down in post. Always the 6th frame was broken and the 15th frame overexposed (but only in 3.5k raw).
Please watch the amazing shots in 3.5k :P:
That is the sharpest thing I've ever seen. I'm not even kidding thats red epic shit right there.
Wow, that is amazing on my 30" cinema display. Thanks for your tests.
Quote from: friano75 on July 07, 2013, 05:51:12 PM
I've done some tests in 3.5k raw and I have to say the quality is AMAZING! The image is unbelievable sharp and clean.
Shot at 24fps (override) for 2 seconds (48f) and slowed down in post. Always the 6th frame was broken and the 15th frame overexposed (but only in 3.5k raw).
Please watch the amazing shots in 3.5k :P:
:D
Nice , That's better then Red !
Quote from: reddeercity on July 08, 2013, 03:56:25 AM
:D
Nice , That's better then Red !
But much shorter! :D
what about rolling shutter?))
just watched on 2.5k monitor, really sharp. the forest scene looks unbelievably detailed. Looking forward to the BM4K ;)
@tihon
I don't see any rolling shutter. Do you see something?
(The strange effects (grass) are coming from the slow-motion effect from AE)
Also my first 3.5k raw test HERE : https://vimeo.com/groups/192344/videos/69921764
30 FPS? Uuhh?
;D
Nice. I think you should upload it to youtube though to get full resoution. I,m not sure vimeo will display the full 3,5k resolution?
Hey that is a great idea dadinio13!
thank ! i will upload it on youtube tonight :D
but you can download the original prores 444 mov on vimeo...
I have been creeping for far too long...I have to start interacting with you nice people.
Here is a RAW 3.5K test, done in Resolve with Hook's LUT and then scaled down to 1080P.
Enjoi
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Quote from: cessoanhelo on July 12, 2013, 06:18:04 AM
I have been creeping for far too long...I have to start interacting with you nice people.
Here is a RAW 3.5K test, done in Resolve with Hook's LUT and then scaled down to 1080P.
Enjoi
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Why shoot 3.5k and scale it down?
Quote from: aaphotog on July 12, 2013, 06:34:14 AM
Why shoot 3.5k and scale it down?
Most clients I deal with want a 1080P deliverable and I was curious to see how it would look scaled down.
This is the first time I hit the Resolve Lite 1080P ceiling, it made me sad...
Quote from: cessoanhelo on July 12, 2013, 07:02:09 AM
Most clients I deal with want a 1080P deliverable and I was curious to see how it would look scaled down.
This is the first time I hit the Resolve Lite 1080P ceiling, it made me sad...
Anyway you'd be willing to upload the full file? I'd like to check it out
Quote from: friano75 on July 07, 2013, 05:51:12 PM
I've done some tests in 3.5k raw and I have to say the quality is AMAZING! The image is unbelievable sharp and clean.
Shot at 24fps (override) for 2 seconds (48f) and slowed down in post. Always the 6th frame was broken and the 15th frame overexposed (but only in 3.5k raw).
Please watch the amazing shots in 3.5k :P:
I am curious are you shooting in 5x or 10x zoom mode, if so what's the distance from the subject your focusing on in differents of if you shot in 1x mode. For example, most of the time when your filming in 1x mode then you change to 5x or 10x zoom mode that subject you were focusing on in 1x mode you now have zoomed in on, how far do you think you might have to back up to get the shot frame you had in 1x? I hope I'm making since, very important workflow I'm curious on. I plan on finding out for myself this weekend but I also seen your work so thought I would ask.
QuoteI am curious are you shooting in 5x or 10x zoom mode, if so what's the distance from the subject your focusing on in differents of if you shot in 1x mode. For example, most of the time when your filming in 1x mode then you change to 5x or 10x zoom mode that subject you were focusing on in 1x mode you now have zoomed in on, how far do you think you might have to back up to get the shot frame you had in 1x? I hope I'm making since, very important workflow I'm curious on. I plan on finding out for myself this weekend but I also seen your work so thought I would ask.
To set the focus I always zoom in 10x. Then I zoom out to 5x (all scenes) and start recording (you can't record in 10x, more then 1x1 doesn't exist). Simply said the 5x,10x zoom enables crop mode and crop mode means every pixel of a certain area will be recorded and not every second pixel (example) as for non crop mode. the greater the resolution in crop mode the less crop factor you have. So my focal length would be 35mm with nearly 1.6 crop factor. So I have to get closer 1.6 times to the subject, is that possible?
I don't have Mark3, can someone test max continuous framerate in 3.5k resolution? Just curious about max fps it can shoot for use in timelapses. Timelapses with ~3-5 fps sometimes very useful...
Does ML have option to record more than 3.5k?
I uploaded a 2.5K video the other day. It allowed it to be viewed with the ''original quality' setting. I went back to it a few hours later and *poof* that setting was gone and now the highest quality that you can select is 1080p.
I noticed that the highest quality on YOUR video that can be selected is 1080p as well.
Does anyone know why youtube removes the original quality option when they were advertising it?
Also, how long do they allow the option to remain before removing it?
Quote from: SoulState on July 13, 2013, 06:11:02 AM
I don't have Mark3, can someone test max continuous framerate in 3.5k resolution? Just curious about max fps it can shoot for use in timelapses. Timelapses with ~3-5 fps sometimes very useful...
Does ML have option to record more than 3.5k?
3.5K is not possible, this is RAW footage upscaled to 3.5k.
EDIT: Just read it's cropped mode, my bad :)
You can do 3,5k in crop mode, no scaling. I manage to film contnuously in 12fps.
Edit. Just read your edit Doyle4 :)
Quote from: Danne on July 13, 2013, 10:09:31 AM
You can do 3,5k in crop mode, no scaling. I manage to film contnuously in 12fps.
Edit. Just read your edit Doyle4 :)
Easy mistakes eh haha :)
12fps is better than none, and with Twixtor you can make it look like 24p again :)
Yes, dadinio13 showed some nice material. It includes timestretching in after effects together with frame interpolation with twixtor. I,ll try to film some material during the day to post later
Quote from: Danne on July 13, 2013, 10:09:31 AM
I manage to film contnuously in 12fps.
Wow that's cool! Looking forward for 24 pfs footage interpolated with twixtor...
I curious about twixtor's capability to do quality interpolation with relativily fast moving objects (like walking people, or moving cars) without visible artifacts; or this technique usable only in scenes with subtle motion like leaves on wind, etc...?
I'm trying to make a short movie in 3.5k. But with 15fps no chance to render this in time. so I did it in 1080p.
Quote from: friano75 on July 07, 2013, 05:51:12 PM
I've done some tests in 3.5k raw and I have to say the quality is AMAZING! The image is unbelievable sharp and clean.
Shot at 24fps (override) for 2 seconds (48f) and slowed down in post. Always the 6th frame was broken and the 15th frame overexposed (but only in 3.5k raw).
Please watch the amazing shots in 3.5k :P:
Sorry for the simple question, but how is the 3.5k achieved? Do you have a link I could read up on? I have scanned through the forums, and really can't find a good answer on how to get it. The video looks AMAZING btw.
I'm doing it this way:
First set your frame rate in the CANON menu as near as possible on the framerate you want. No panic you can choose the exact fps with fps override later.
Then go to the ML menu under preferences and enter in the focus point settings submenu. Set the speed to normal, snap points to Center/TL/TR/BR/BL, Display Auto-Hide.
Set your exposure settings (aperture,shutter speed,focus...). You should see the white focus box on the screen -> move it 17 to the left and 8 up (in crop mode only the top left area will be used from the sensor).
Now press the lupe button once to zoom 5x. Go to RAW video submenu and select your resolution you want >1080p possible. Enable memory hack, small hacks. Set your aspect ratio.
If you want you can vary your fps. For this go to fps override select Optimized for exact fps and choose your frame rate. Go out of the ML menu.
Remember your only recording in a partial surface of the sensor! crop factor!
Check this video tutorial:
Hi,
The 3.5K recording capability was doing fine with the previous build but now with the new version the camera starts to skip frames early. I have a 5DM3 running on 32GB Lexar 1000X and Sandisk 95mb/s (Class 10) cards.
What fps are you using filming in 3,5k?
Started with 30fps on the Canon and now on 24fps & 24fps on my ML menu (FPS override - Exact FPS)
Ok, and the aspect ratio? I mean, I only get continuous in 3,5k if I choose 12-15 fps override. That is when I choose the highest output aspect ratio in 3xcrop mode
Quote from: friano75 on August 17, 2013, 06:55:15 PM
I'm doing it this way:
First set your frame rate in the CANON menu as near as possible on the framerate you want. No panic you can choose the exact fps with fps override later.
Then go to the ML menu under preferences and enter in the focus point settings submenu. Set the speed to normal, snap points to Center/TL/TR/BR/BL, Display Auto-Hide.
Set your exposure settings (aperture,shutter speed,focus...). You should see the white focus box on the screen -> move it 17 to the left and 8 up (in crop mode only the top left area will be used from the sensor).
Now press the lupe button once to zoom 5x. Go to RAW video submenu and select your resolution you want >1080p possible. Enable memory hack, small hacks. Set your aspect ratio.
If you want you can vary your fps. For this go to fps override select Optimized for exact fps and choose your frame rate. Go out of the ML menu.
Remember your only recording in a partial surface of the sensor! crop factor!
Check this video tutorial:
Retested - frames skipping is massive at 1920X1080. Any way to avoid that?
Quote from: friano75 on August 17, 2013, 06:55:15 PM
I'm doing it this way:
First set your frame rate in the CANON menu as near as possible on the framerate you want. No panic you can choose the exact fps with fps override later.
Then go to the ML menu under preferences and enter in the focus point settings submenu. Set the speed to normal, snap points to Center/TL/TR/BR/BL, Display Auto-Hide.
Set your exposure settings (aperture,shutter speed,focus...). You should see the white focus box on the screen -> move it 17 to the left and 8 up (in crop mode only the top left area will be used from the sensor).
Now press the lupe button once to zoom 5x. Go to RAW video submenu and select your resolution you want >1080p possible. Enable memory hack, small hacks. Set your aspect ratio.
If you want you can vary your fps. For this go to fps override select Optimized for exact fps and choose your frame rate. Go out of the ML menu.
Remember your only recording in a partial surface of the sensor! crop factor!
Check this video tutorial:
Awesome, Thanks for the help!
Nice! Do I need to disable some setting in ML menu to achieve the high resolution? I am not able to scroll to the 3.5k resolution I raw video menu!
EDIT: Oh, only 12fps, sorry :)
With the 5D mark 3 zoom in once (crop mode) go to the resolution menu and you should be able to scroll to 3.5k now.
Quote from: friano75 on August 23, 2013, 08:05:57 PM
With the 5D mark 3 zoom in once (crop mode) go to the resolution menu and you should be able to scroll to 3.5k now.
Yepp found it, thanks. Tho only available in 12fps. Also I get heavily vertical banding. Friano75 what version/date raw2dng.exe are you using?
Good tutorial vid btw!
LB
I'm using RawMagic 1.0 for mac.
Tried to take more videos in 3584x1320. I can do 4s shots without problems in 16fps and convert it with twixtor to 24fps. The shot is now in real time. Could you developer please increase the max vertical resolution to 1525 for 2.35 ratio? Would be fantastic. 8) GO CINEMA 8)
The resolution of the LV stream is 3584*1320 not changable
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6215.0
On a 2.5k screen. And that is seriously eye piercing!
While this all sounds intriguing, I really don't get the point of undergoing all this to achieve the extra resolution, what for?
1080p videos don't look crisp on a 2.5k screen. Haha. But perhaps it makes the footage easier to work with in post? Knowing you have some resolution you can spare
It's only the aspect ratio I don't like so much. Is it hardware that doesn't allow to increase the vertical resolution?
I mean look at that: