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Title: Canon 650D 1.0.1 [Status: Alpha / OBSOLETE]
Post by: nanomad on June 09, 2013, 07:35:02 PM
DON'T UPGRADE TO 1.0.4 OR ML WILL NOT WORK


(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9JfAuS1.jpg%3F2&hash=5676785a4240ab6fd1fe9d9a96980a86)
Status:  Alpha

What's currently not working: Everything audio related plus a couple of features that require more button than what we have

Known "quirks":
- MZ is flickering. No solution known beside basically hardlocking the UI.
- FPS override may cause crashes. This requires a lot of testing to figure out correct timer values. I'm on it

How do I test it?

Note that there are no official ML builds for the 650D right now, but you can use Satriani's build for the moment

1. Download the needed files

- 650D-safe-dumper.fir: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/src/99bd629f7c5712346369840e64c04fd2d4576520/platform/650D.101/devkit/650D-safe-dumper.fir?at=unified (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/src/99bd629f7c5712346369840e64c04fd2d4576520/platform/650D.101/devkit/650D-safe-dumper.fir?at=unified)

- Latest Magic Lantern builld from user Satriani: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hxsv61cq992egmy/BtTgp4q6i0 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hxsv61cq992egmy/BtTgp4q6i0)

- EOSCard for Windows http://pel.hu/eoscard/ (http://pel.hu/eoscard/) or MacBoot for OS X http://www.zenoshrdlu.com/macboot/macboot.html (http://www.zenoshrdlu.com/macboot/macboot.html)

2. low level format your SD card

3.  Copy 650D-safe-dumper.fir on SD card.

4. Copy the stuff from latest build on SD card (ML folder and autoexec.bin).

5. Start camera in M photo mode and run firmware update.

6. Run EOSCard, check EOS_Develop and BOOTDISK

7. Put SD card in camera just press the trashcan button to run ML
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 09, 2013, 07:35:43 PM
Me needs a photo of a 650D with ML running on it :P
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on June 09, 2013, 08:32:36 PM
New topic! Nice clean start. I will switch to a Satraini build ASAP.. Aldo my wife is away with the car, and my camera is in the trunk ..doh...

For the FPS testing is there anything I can do to help?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Ftlz on June 09, 2013, 08:47:10 PM
Hi.
First of all, thanks for all efforts by all ML developers/contributor/sponsors.
I wish I could donate but I live in Iran and all possible ways of money transfer (Paypal, Visa etc) are sanctioned and restricted.
I have a question, maybe seems noob:
Just tried to install ML on a 650D. installed "650d-bootfix.fir" from nanomad.magiclantern.fm and I saw the "enablebootdisk :)" messages. After making card bootable and copying ML stuff, it didn't work (The camera didn't boot from card at all). I tried again with "650D-safe-dumper.fir" and this time everything worked successfully. My question is: Was the first .fir file "650d-bootfix.fir" (which I had installed first) safe and won't it harm my camera?
Thank you again
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lostear on June 09, 2013, 08:49:53 PM
Here's the pic  8)

(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9JfAuS1.jpg%3F2&hash=5676785a4240ab6fd1fe9d9a96980a86)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 09, 2013, 09:05:05 PM
What's currently not working: Everything audio related plus a couple of features that require more button than what we have

Bug: Focus stacking

Doesn't work as intended. I tried several options (shots to be taken in front and back, focus step setting) and the result was always the same. Focus is established, takes first shot, the focus plane is shifted forward in a slow pace and then ... surprise ... it takes a fast walk back to the focus point for the first shot and takes the second shot at this very point. Then focus wanders forward where the third shot has to take place (slowly) and again the focus races back to "ground zero" and captures the third shot.
All shots are taken at the very same focus point.
Tried with today's build, too. All the same. Tried with Canon EF 100/2.8 Macro USM and Canon EF 100/2.8 L IS Macro USM.

Is there someone able to use this option?

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Chiriponga on June 09, 2013, 09:09:26 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lostear on June 09, 2013, 09:23:47 PM
Bug: Focus stacking

Doesn't work as intended. I tried several options (shots to be taken in front and back, focus step setting) and the result was always the same. Focus is established, takes first shot, the focus plane is shifted forward in a slow pace and then ... surprise ... it takes a fast walk back to the focus point for the first shot and takes the second shot at this very point. Then focus wanders forward where the third shot has to take place (slowly) and again the focus races back to "ground zero" and captures the third shot.
All shots are taken at the very same focus point.
Tried with today's build, too. All the same. Tried with Canon EF 100/2.8 Macro USM and Canon EF 100/2.8 L IS Macro USM.

Is there someone able to use this option?

Ciao, Walter

Had the exact same issue except that the camera would keep snapping pics without stopping. No buttons would stop it. I ended up having to switch the camera off.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 09, 2013, 09:45:23 PM
Here's the pic  8)

[IMG*]http://i.imgur.com/9JfAuS1.jpg?2[/img]

Thanks!

I'll go test the focus stacking thing right now :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 09, 2013, 09:50:42 PM
Memory issue, esp. malloc? Reset to factory defaults didn't help at all.
(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fabload.de%2Fimg%2Fmemory_650dcya4x.jpg&hash=d03d4b8647fa4992fff9aa66aea35e81)

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 09, 2013, 09:53:31 PM
The bin is quite big, I should probably try to use another boot method but I'd prefer to stick to the good ol' one ...
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 09, 2013, 10:10:39 PM
Again about memory: Found this document (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgQ2MOkAZTFHdFFIcFp1d0R5TzVPTVJXOEVyUndteGc#gid=2) in this thread (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5024.msg29974#msg29974).

The numbers doesn't match. May be a build issue (a1ex vs. satriani)? Can someone shed some light on this?

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Toast on June 09, 2013, 10:30:36 PM
Just to be sure, if i "install" ML, but then use an SD-Card without ML on it, the camera does boot the normal firmware, right?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 09, 2013, 10:32:07 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 09, 2013, 10:33:01 PM
Again about memory: Found this document (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgQ2MOkAZTFHdFFIcFp1d0R5TzVPTVJXOEVyUndteGc#gid=2) in this thread (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5024.msg29974#msg29974).

The numbers doesn't match. May be a build issue (a1ex vs. satriani)? Can someone shed some light on this?

Ciao, Walter

It depends on the number of enabled features

edit: focus stacking fixed :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Toast on June 09, 2013, 10:40:45 PM
Thanks for the fast answer. Will try it now. *happy*

I see the EOSCard tool is only available for WIn and Mac, ist there any way to low level format the card with linux?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 09, 2013, 10:44:45 PM
It depends on the number of enabled features

I disabled all ML features I found in the menues.

edit: focus stacking fixed :)

Fine, will test it tomorrow. I have to wait for sitriani's build.

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 09, 2013, 10:52:41 PM
Enabled as in "compiled", disable TCC and modules and it jump back to more than 200Kb
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 09, 2013, 11:01:25 PM
Thanks for the clarification!

Very minor bug(?) and not sure if it is needed to work on it:

Load modules, unload modules, load modules: Two items "RAW video" in Movie tab.

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Toast on June 09, 2013, 11:06:06 PM
Ah, sorry, i misunderstood. Low level format on the cam, right? What would be the risk, if i can't check the bootflag with the eoscard tool?


Man, misunderstood again. (Bad day, apparently). I thought eoscard is only to check, if the flags are correct. Looking for a way to make the card bootable with linux. Any hints?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: adrian2013 on June 09, 2013, 11:39:57 PM
Can anyone tell me why after ejecting the screen displays do update again and remove the battery, but this appears to me if I tried out the card again to have nothing to update but even so it isi must say that I installed ML N dated June 9, 2013,.thank you
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 09, 2013, 11:53:10 PM
You appear to be using a translator, use your native language as what you said isn't very clear ...

Ah, sorry, i misunderstood. Low level format on the cam, right? What would be the risk, if i can't check the bootflag with the eoscard tool?


Man, misunderstood again. (Bad day, apparently). I thought eoscard is only to check, if the flags are correct. Looking for a way to make the card bootable with linux. Any hints?

There are two make_bootable scripts inside the contrib/make-bootable folder of the repository :)
The python one is newer, so you should try using it.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 09, 2013, 11:55:23 PM
Thanks for the clarification!

Very minor bug(?) and not sure if it is needed to work on it:

Load modules, unload modules, load modules: Two items "RAW video" in Movie tab.

Ciao, Walter

"upstream" bug shared by all models. The module system is far from perfect :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: adrian2013 on June 09, 2013, 11:59:01 PM
Can anyone tell me why after ejecting the screen displays do update again and remove the battery, but this appears to me if I tried out the card again to have nothing to update but even so it is. ML_N_09.06.2013 2 hour ago i instaled
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 10, 2013, 12:17:14 AM
May I ask for a favor, adrian?

Please post your input in english *and* french. Your translator knocks me out.

Ciao, Walter (no native speaker either)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: adrian2013 on June 10, 2013, 12:24:49 AM
Ciao Walter can you tell me how put a photo with my issue please?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: adrian2013 on June 10, 2013, 12:33:37 AM
my problem is when you remove the card from the camera tells me to remove the battery and do update again, I made ​​that step but the same problem persists,sorry i want put an Attachments but i dont know i hope understand this time thank you
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 10, 2013, 12:40:54 AM
You have to upload it to a file/image hoster or your own webspace (if available) and copy the link.

Then use the third icon in the middle ("insert image") and copy the link between
Code: [Select]
[img]]and
Code: [Select]
[/img]
Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: adrian2013 on June 10, 2013, 12:49:01 AM
my problem is when  remove the card from the camera tells me to remove the battery and do update again, I made ​​that step but the same problem persists.     http://i43.tinypic.com/2vd1o5e.jpg   here you can see the photo but when i close my  camera display is on only when card is remove ,how can i solve this ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: elmatambre on June 10, 2013, 01:18:57 AM
thanks i am very happy. ML is running in my camera T4i  : ) ... ;D its a happy end, in this weekend...
Its a happy Sunday!!! yauuu
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Sergioam on June 10, 2013, 02:39:14 AM
Hi! thanks a lot nanomad! i've just installed ML on my 650D, and i did a quick video test, i turned the HDR Video ON and recorded something, this video has flicker, i dont know if that is another bug or maybe i just didnt setup the HDR Video well (im new to ML)

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: fööniks on June 10, 2013, 03:29:41 AM
Hi! thanks a lot nanomad! i've just installed ML on my 650D, and i did a quick video test, i turned the HDR Video ON and recorded something, this video has flicker, i dont know if that is another bug or maybe i just didnt setup the HDR Video well (im new to ML)

Thanks again!

It has to flicker. You have to use postprocessing workflow. Can be downloaded under HDR video:
http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/userguide#hdr_video (http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/userguide#hdr_video)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: red5446 on June 10, 2013, 05:30:30 AM
there is a bug when i activate raw video.
1. sometimes when you hit the button to stop the recording it doesn´t, so the normal hd video from canon starts. the raw video stops but still get buffering the raw video and then i can stop normal video.
the only way to do it is to turn it off.


2. also if you hit by mistake load modules two times, camera blocks and the camera has to be turned off. can be this prevented?

3. if i turn on fps overide to 24fps (23.976)  doesn´t record audio. can be this fixed please?




Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Toast on June 10, 2013, 06:03:15 AM
Thanks nanomad, works now for me. Will be testing that. :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Sergioam on June 10, 2013, 07:03:01 AM
It has to flicker. You have to use postprocessing workflow. Can be downloaded under HDR video:
http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/userguide#hdr_video (http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/userguide#hdr_video)

Oh, thank you, i should've read that before, sorry man! thank you, hoping now that the audio features work soon =D

Cheers
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: datex on June 10, 2013, 02:06:40 PM
Hello! Is it going to be 650D audio menu just as on 550D or 60D audio meters? And can you make the same button on 650D as on 600D for fast WhiteBalance and ISO tuning. These are the most important features that are missing on 650D. Thanks you very much for your work and for creating such masterpiece as Magic Lantern.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on June 10, 2013, 02:34:00 PM
Doesn't the 650D already have manual audio controls in Canon menu?!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Jseeker on June 10, 2013, 02:54:08 PM
This Is wonderful, Oh, This is fantastic - Movie Restart Worketh! Me luv you long time.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on June 10, 2013, 04:02:39 PM
I use the build from 10-jun-13,

If i set advanced bracketing to 9 exposures, and and 2 ev Mode is M. The camera starts taking 1-2 pictures and then i get a timer in the richt bottum of the screen ( as in recording video), and the camera stalls.

If i turn it on and off, every thing seems ok, however if i try to continue with taking pictures I press the shutter and get a beep ( as in 2 sec delay) it keeps peeping until i release the shutter, and no pictures are taken.

It seems to be stuck in bulp. 

Tested it 5 times, and 2 times it did recover from bulp and take the rest, 3 times it got stuck.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 10, 2013, 04:21:55 PM
Couldn't reproduce this, but I took only 2 test runs.
First with 1/8 s, second with 1/4 s as start point. Both sequences were completed as expected and the longest exposure took 64 seconds.

@nanomad: Would it be possible to activate the red LED during exposure in the way Canon does?

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: adrian2013 on June 10, 2013, 04:56:16 PM
Hi Walter MY  camera   is off and if I remove the card from my canon  is open to the message screen should remove the battery and do it again update.IS  this normal? thank you
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 10, 2013, 05:00:04 PM
my problem is when  remove the card from the camera tells me to remove the battery and do update again, I made ​​that step but the same problem persists.     http://i43.tinypic.com/2vd1o5e.jpg   here you can see the photo but when i close my  camera display is on only when card is remove ,how can i solve this ?

What fir did you use to install ML on the camera the first time? This should not happen anymore with the safe-dumper fir.
Please post a link.

To fix the error format the card on a PC then put the content of this archive on it. Let the camera do a firmware update in photo M mode, not movie!

http://nanomad.magiclantern.fm/650D/magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Feb02.650D.BOOTFIX.zip
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 10, 2013, 05:02:20 PM
there is a bug when i activate raw video.
1. sometimes when you hit the button to stop the recording it doesn´t, so the normal hd video from canon starts. the raw video stops but still get buffering the raw video and then i can stop normal video.
the only way to do it is to turn it off.


2. also if you hit by mistake load modules two times, camera blocks and the camera has to be turned off. can be this prevented?

3. if i turn on fps overide to 24fps (23.976)  doesn´t record audio. can be this fixed please?

1) I'll investigate it
2) Core ML bug. As I said, the module system is still young. It will eventually be fixed
3) No. It's  FPS override limitation. I can enable separate WAV recording when I figure out how the audio stuff works.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: adrian2013 on June 10, 2013, 05:03:40 PM
 this firmware i use ML_N_09.06.2013.zip.thank you for help Nanomad .i try now to fix then is ok i will write you again
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: adrian2013 on June 10, 2013, 05:13:38 PM
Nanomad I did exactly what you told me and it's okay now. Now, to do something that should be left on the card botfix can reinstall again magic lantern? Thank you so much for help all respect for you guys you made this possible
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mtb on June 10, 2013, 05:35:29 PM
Is auto bulb ramping (sunset, sunrise) disabled... or am I being stupid?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 10, 2013, 06:19:14 PM
@adrian:
1. Keep only two folders (DCIM and MISC) on your SD-Card. Delete *all* other files and folders from root.
2. Download latest build (satriani's Dropbox).
3. Expand ZIP and copy ML folder and autoexec.bin to your SD-Card.

Must look like this:

DCIM (folder)
MISC (folder)
ML (folder)
autoexec.bin (file)

That is all you need to run ML.

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: adrian2013 on June 10, 2013, 06:31:37 PM
Thank you Walter !!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 10, 2013, 06:57:38 PM
edit: focus stacking fixed :)

Yes, it is an oxymoron: The unfixed version used to have a fixed focus and the fixed version shifts focus as you like.
Or shorter: Works!

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: red5446 on June 10, 2013, 08:25:41 PM
when i shoot a picture in video mode the raw files read it with 16:9. that´s a 15.1MP file, not 18MP.

there is a lightroom plugin to restore the original aspect ratio but needs to convert the image to dng and then it duplicates the file.
that´s a lot of work.

can magic lantern make something about this? maybe deactivate the function that gives 16:9 ratio to the metadata in the raw file in video mode.




Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: bradybunch987 on June 11, 2013, 05:11:07 AM
When using the FPS over-ride to 65 fps the system crashed. It wont seem to stretch over 50 fps
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Lucas_W on June 11, 2013, 11:57:32 AM
I don't think it's meant to go that high.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: MarlonSenanayake on June 11, 2013, 12:10:44 PM
What fir did you use to install ML on the camera the first time? This should not happen anymore with the safe-dumper fir.
Please post a link.

To fix the error format the card on a PC then put the content of this archive on it. Let the camera do a firmware update in photo M mode, not movie!

http://nanomad.magiclantern.fm/650D/magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Feb02.650D.BOOTFIX.zip
i used 650d_dumper to update firmware, whats the different between magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Feb02.650D.BOOTFIX.zip and 650d_dumper
this is the dumper i used http://sdrv.ms/11TbfHC
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Lucas_W on June 11, 2013, 12:11:37 PM
My Sokoban isn't working. None of the scripts are working for me.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: texacola on June 11, 2013, 03:33:10 PM
hmmm, this is my first post because I've just been enjoying the ML ride, but it's annoying because I'm only doing so to subscribe to this topic as there appears to be no other way to do so.

But! I would like to thank you nanomad for all the effort you've put in!

Thanks!

Tex
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 11, 2013, 05:04:15 PM
i used 650d_dumper to update firmware, whats the different between magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Feb02.650D.BOOTFIX.zip and 650d_dumper
this is the dumper i used http://sdrv.ms/11TbfHC

BOOTFIX should be used only when a dev tells you to do so. It is used to fix half-broken installs
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: khurra on June 11, 2013, 07:13:03 PM
installed yesterday. Used the magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Feb02.650D.BOOTFIX.zip to "update" my firmware.

Said make sure Boot Flag is active. then a smiley.

I put safe dumpr on my card, as well as the latest build from last night. then i actived the bootflag using the mac version of the app that makes them bootable, (I run mountain lion on my computer so i had to put a special script in the folder that  had the app to make the card bootable).

I ran magic lantern and it works pretty sweet.

I tried to shoot raw and it worked when i put it on a lower setting like 1280 by 720 but the problem ive ran into is there is artifacting in the middle of the frame that looks kinda like the bumpy parts of metal like this image: http://images03.olx.in/ui/4/33/94/63002994_1-Pictures-of-Industrial-metal-sheets-and-Embossed-Metal-Sheets-Chennai.jpg

but the artifacts are colored like fushia.

I tried a bunch of different settings and still got the artifacts, is this a problem with my sensor? or with the encoding process? You can't see the artifacts when you play it back through ML on the camera, only after transcoding using MagicRaw..

I used MagicRaw with the 650d setting to transcode from Raw to DNG.

Thank you for all your hardwork!! So stoked to have ML on my t4i!!



Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on June 11, 2013, 07:47:10 PM
installed yesterday. Used the magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Feb02.650D.BOOTFIX.zip to "update" my firmware.

Said make sure Boot Flag is active. then a smiley.

I put safe dumpr on my card, as well as the latest build from last night. then i actived the bootflag using the mac version of the app that makes them bootable, (I run mountain lion on my computer so i had to put a special script in the folder that  had the app to make the card bootable).

I ran magic lantern and it works pretty sweet.

I tried to shoot raw and it worked when i put it on a lower setting like 1280 by 720 but the problem ive ran into is there is artifacting in the middle of the frame that looks kinda like the bumpy parts of metal like this image: http://images03.olx.in/ui/4/33/94/63002994_1-Pictures-of-Industrial-metal-sheets-and-Embossed-Metal-Sheets-Chennai.jpg

but the artifacts are colored like fushia.

I tried a bunch of different settings and still got the artifacts, is this a problem with my sensor? or with the encoding process? You can't see the artifacts when you play it back through ML on the camera, only after transcoding using MagicRaw..

I used MagicRaw with the 650d setting to transcode from Raw to DNG.

Thank you for all your hardwork!! So stoked to have ML on my t4i!!

It's a known bug. Nano and the team are working on it but it's not a high priority fix at the moment.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: bradybunch987 on June 12, 2013, 01:00:32 AM
How come I only record RAW for 24 frames(one second). than it stops?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 12, 2013, 01:31:30 AM
Depends. You don't give much information, do you?
High resolution (= lots of data) and/or slow card (= slow data transfer rate).

Run benchmark test (Debug menu -> Benchmarks -> Card R/W benchmark (5 min)) to test your card. Card bus is limited to about 41 MiByte/s in photo mode and about 10 percent less in video mode.

Try lower resolutions and you might be able to record longer sequences.

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1ricca on June 12, 2013, 01:55:17 AM
I finally got a fast enough card to test RAW video, but now I can't find where a few others already asked this noobish question, so;

How do you enable RAW video and change the settings for it as well? :/ I'm on Satriani's "ML_N_11.06.2013"
Are shortcut keys working? What are they and how to change them?

Also,

***BUG REPORT***: Focus box disappears after a successful auto focus while in Live View. Clicking the up/down/left/right buttons makes it show up again. I do not have the Autohide setting on in ML's Focus Box Settings.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1% on June 12, 2013, 02:35:07 AM
Lol, those are the AF dots... you chose those or the "peaking" style noise... only choice right now :(


P.S. try photo mode & multi shot NR for more frames... this is the only way to fly on EOS-M... dunno if your LV key works to record in photo tho.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: bradybunch987 on June 12, 2013, 02:39:55 AM
Alright, I have a card that runs about 30mb/s , Magic Lanterns Benchmark tells me that I am running on 12mb/s so I guess I need to down the resolution. But how can I do this? sorry for being new to this.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1ricca on June 12, 2013, 03:05:10 AM
Alright, I have a card that runs about 30mb/s , Magic Lanterns Benchmark tells me that I am running on 12mb/s so I guess I need to down the resolution. But how can I do this? sorry for being new to this.

You're gonna need at least a 45/MB/s card. Better yet would be a 90MB/s or higher. It's a good investment. Just the jump from Sandisk 30MB/s to 45MB/s was huge. It's not black and white speeds. Different products do different actual speeds not to mention how each card has a minimum speed, meaning it can dip as low as said speed. The minimum speeds are the biggest issue with high bitrate things like RAW. Once the speed dips below what's needed, recording stops.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1ricca on June 12, 2013, 05:45:36 AM
I finally got a fast enough card to test RAW video, but now I can't find where a few others already asked this noobish question, so;

How do you enable RAW video and change the settings for it as well? :/ I'm on Satriani's "ML_N_11.06.2013"
Are shortcut keys working? What are they and how to change them?

Also,

***BUG REPORT***: Focus box disappears after a successful auto focus while in Live View. Clicking the up/down/left/right buttons makes it show up again. I do not have the Autohide setting on in ML's Focus Box Settings.


I figured it out, that you need to "load modules" first.

Anyone on shortcut keys?

Nanomad, is the focus box bug something possibly fixable?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Fuligin on June 12, 2013, 08:18:03 AM
Thanks to you guys making this fw possible! =)

buggies:

#1: Rack Focus doesn't work for me. It does seem to do the focusing correctly, but I am unable to record any video. Neither by pressing "play" (it just does RF twice and says "Not recording") nor by using standard rec button (goes back to ML Menu, UI flickers).

#2: Customizing display presets, when changing spotmeter, other presets change to the same spotmeter(percent, raw etc.)
       Also, I can't get into the normal Vanilla view as soon as I activate the option for 2 ML Display presets, maybe that's normal.

#3: ML Zebras and other helpers seem to be very slow in Photo mode + LiveView(Vectorscope took 20sec to load,zebras lag which isn't so bad for PhotoMode). Zebras(not vectorscope)also slow in Video Mode, if you don't have default color scheme.

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1ricca on June 12, 2013, 09:25:04 AM
Thanks to you guys making this fw possible! =)

buggies:

#1: Rack Focus doesn't work for me. It does seem to do the focusing correctly, but I am unable to record any video. Neither by pressing "play" (it just does RF twice and says "Not recording") nor by using standard rec button (goes back to ML Menu, UI flickers).

#2: Customizing display presets, when changing spotmeter, other presets change to the same spotmeter(percent, raw etc.)
       Also, I can't get into the normal Vanilla view as soon as I activate the option for 2 ML Display presets, maybe that's normal.

#3: ML Zebras and other helpers seem to be very slow in Photo mode + LiveView(Vectorscope took 20sec to load,zebras lag which isn't so bad for PhotoMode). Zebras(not vectorscope)also slow in Video Mode, if you don't have default color scheme.

#2 is normal.

#3 is pretty normal too. I know there's builds out there where focus peaking is much smoother and synced but didn't work nearly as well to the point where I wouldn't use it. Now I just use magic zoom instead anyway ;)

I came up with a nice way to use MagicZoom actually. I make 2 setting presets with all but magiczoom the same. The one with magiczoom on has it set to Always On. This way, the info button is a toggle for magiczoom.

Only thing that would be better than this is if Info wasn't on the left :/ but it still works best for me for quickest focusing possible in run n' gun situations.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1ricca on June 12, 2013, 09:44:48 AM
Just want to rehash a post from "lordgnagey".  I too agree there should still be an option for 1440 for this build, considering that that is one of the best rez's we're gonna get with the write ceiling everyone gets on the 650d and UHS-I cards.

Quote
Hey man. I wanted to say I really appreciate the work! And I have tested out the May 31st build. Apologies for being so direct, but with the adjusted frame sizes 1472 width at 2.35 actually pushes us over the limit in terms of the buffer. It no longer allows for continuous recording, because of this I will be using the older build (with 1440) for my 24fps raw tests.

Is there a way to free up more space for alternative resolutions? Could we do this by removing the options above 1728? I think it would be beneficial considering that these higher res options are useless with this camera's capabilities. Personally I would like to see something like 960 1088 1152 1216 1280 1344 1408 1440 1456 1472 1536 1728 as width options to find what res that has enough cushion to allow for continuous recording. 1216 width would probably be the highest 16:9 with continuous recording.

I do understand that you were attempting to keep all resolutions within a multiple of 64 to maximize efficiency of RAW recording, but sadly it has cost us the highest 2.35 resolution that could record continuously at 24fps. And from my perspective, the speed improvements do not outweigh the option for doing longer takes. 1456 which is 22.75 x 64 might be a decent option, but I assume that 1440 will be a safer resolution to work with as neither is a direct multiple of 64.

That aside, I will say that I did test FPS override at 2.5 fps and I got a pretty nice 3.0x CBR h.264 sunrise TL. Now if only we could implement ALL-I frames... :P
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: DavidFell on June 12, 2013, 02:48:48 PM
Hi, great work. I'm eager to install on my T4i. I also have a T3i, which already has the release version of ML.

Once the alpha is on the T4i, can I set up my cards so that they'll each work with both cameras, loading whichever version of ML is needed?


Non-tech question, more about understand the development process: Was there a particular milestone that caused this port to move from pre-alpha to alpha, or was it simply that the pre-alpha was mostly working and hadn't bricked anyone's camera?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 12, 2013, 04:39:40 PM
Hi, great work. I'm eager to install on my T4i. I also have a T3i, which already has the release version of ML.

Once the alpha is on the T4i, can I set up my cards so that they'll each work with both cameras, loading whichever version of ML is needed?


Non-tech question, more about understand the development process: Was there a particular milestone that caused this port to move from pre-alpha to alpha, or was it simply that the pre-alpha was mostly working and hadn't bricked anyone's camera?

I wouldn't share the config between models: http://www.magiclantern.fm/bestpractices

And yes, I moved to alpha mainly because I haven't seen any bricks so far
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: brewerrj on June 12, 2013, 08:19:28 PM
How can I go back from Kelvin White Balance to auto White Balance? can't find it..
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on June 12, 2013, 08:26:55 PM
You're gonna need at least a 45/MB/s card. Better yet would be a 90MB/s or higher. It's a good investment. Just the jump from Sandisk 30MB/s to 45MB/s was huge.

the 650D has a max write of 40mbs so a good 45mbs card would be idea verses wasting money on a 90mbs card, use the extra cash to get a larger capacity 45mbs card. :)

Just wanted to say great work to the team and testers, looking forward to the next phase of ML :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kostasra on June 12, 2013, 09:13:20 PM
My intervalometer doesn't work...
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 12, 2013, 09:22:27 PM
My intervalometer doesn't work...
Need more details... assuming ML intervalometer (not external).  What you did... (I tried these settings ...) What happened... (no shots... wrong interval.... camera hopped off tripod and ran away)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 12, 2013, 09:24:25 PM
Mine does.

Please, please, please: More information!
"Doesn't work" may have some meaning for you but it doesn't give any hint *how to* solve it.

- Which ML version are you using?
- Which setting do you have tried? (Screen snapshot will be helpful)
- What does "doesn't work" mean? No shot taken at all, endless shooting ...
- Are there any error messages?
etc. pp.

If you are not able to give more information it is highly unlikely somebody will be able to help you.

EDIT: Too slow ...

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kostasra on June 12, 2013, 09:31:22 PM
I use the latest from here https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hxsv61cq992egmy/BtTgp4q6i0

I set the time and frames and then the camera doesn't work....
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 12, 2013, 09:44:35 PM
I use the latest from here https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hxsv61cq992egmy/BtTgp4q6i0

I set the time and frames and then the camera doesn't work....

Again: Help us to help you, please.

Okay, other way round: Set AF on lens to MF, choose M, 1/60 s, aperture 8, ISO 400, single shot mode.
Now go to the intervalometer menu, choose
Take a picture every 3 sec
Start after 3 sec
Stop after 3 shots

Now just press the shutter button down half and Bob is your uncle. Please report results.

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on June 12, 2013, 09:53:03 PM
How can I go back from Kelvin White Balance to auto White Balance? can't find it..

I had the same problem. Only way I found was to change it from the quick menu in photo mode, yeah I know kinda a pain.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kostasra on June 12, 2013, 10:22:05 PM
Again: Help us to help you, please.

Okay, other way round: Set AF on lens to MF, choose M, 1/60 s, aperture 8, ISO 400, single shot mode.
Now go to the intervalometer menu, choose
Take a picture every 3 sec
Start after 3 sec
Stop after 3 shots

Now just press the shutter button down half and Bob is your uncle. Please report results.

Ciao, Walter

I had "open" the FPS override and when i put the intervalometer the camera stop working...

This was the problem...
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: landwomble on June 12, 2013, 11:45:55 PM
How safe is this alpha?  Debating if I should wait a bit or take the plunge...
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: screamingpoodle on June 13, 2013, 02:10:36 AM
Hi. I can't seem to make ML fire. It loaded and then told me to run mac boot and make the card bootable.  The system says not suitable card found. I'm using an 8 GB sandisk 90MB/sec. card.  Please tel me what I'm doing that is stupid.

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: screamingpoodle on June 13, 2013, 02:42:37 AM
Never mind. Working now on another card. Testing. Thanks for all your hard work.

Mark
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: brewerrj on June 13, 2013, 04:21:00 AM
I had the same problem. Only way I found was to change it from the quick menu in photo mode, yeah I know kinda a pain.

Thanks. Maybe there should be an option in white balance menu to go back to Canon's White Balance?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1ricca on June 13, 2013, 06:29:22 AM
Thanks. Maybe there should be an option in white balance menu to go back to Canon's White Balance?

I thought of this, but it would likely convolute the way it works and screw up usability. I would rather have an option just below WB similar to the Picture Profile selector or something.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on June 13, 2013, 07:33:59 AM
Possible bug: I have the nifty50 f1.8 lens and with ML I cant set Aperture lower then 2.0
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: comatose on June 13, 2013, 07:54:25 AM
I'm having an issue when I go into photo review mode, when I press play to get back out of it, it instead brings up some sort of levels grid and won't let me get back to shooting mode without powering down and back on, I went through and messed with settings, turned everything off even and still am having the issue
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on June 13, 2013, 07:57:23 AM
I'm having an issue when I go into photo review mode, when I press play to get back out of it, it instead brings up some sort of levels grid and won't let me get back to shooting mode without powering down and back on, I went through and messed with settings, turned everything off even and still am having the issue

Hit the liveview button
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 13, 2013, 09:15:53 AM
Or half press the shutter button :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Dorlis on June 13, 2013, 11:20:11 AM
Besoin D'aide!!!

Quand Je Film en Mode Raw avec Mon Canon 650D, et que je le transforme en format dng, il y a un genre de grain de couleur sur la video?
Que Faire S'il Vous Plait!!!

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kostasra on June 13, 2013, 11:25:50 AM
Possible bug: I have the nifty50 f1.8 lens and with ML I cant set Aperture lower then 2.0

I have the same issue, if we put f1.8 from canon menu then works...
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on June 13, 2013, 01:54:42 PM
Thanks. Maybe there should be an option in white balance menu to go back to Canon's White Balance?

Get out from the ML menu and press "Q"

Choose the empty orange border, in the picture.

(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg594%2F5006%2Fvram0.png&hash=67b11bab8ea4aa28e64e2f594411bb76)

And that is what you are looking for:

(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg13%2F7413%2Fvram1.png&hash=374db6da24b96b07be04763ba7d025fc)

I think the developers will add it to the ML menu. Am I right Nanomad?  :P
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on June 13, 2013, 01:57:14 PM
If you have to go back to Auto, ML is probably not for you ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on June 13, 2013, 02:24:47 PM
If you have to go back to Auto, ML is probably not for you ;)

Exactly, I would also say that, but there are people who don't feel like permanently adjust the white balance. We must also expect such a people :D
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 13, 2013, 02:43:40 PM
Anyway, there's a patch somewhere that adds the K icon when WB is set to kelvin. Would that help?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on June 13, 2013, 02:59:47 PM
I think so, anyway I personally use very rarely Auto white balance and only in video mode.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on June 13, 2013, 03:12:22 PM
Just add the kelvin value to flexinfo if it isn't already there.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 13, 2013, 03:48:54 PM
Indeed. Dunno if flexinfo had the "K" icon merged or not though.

edit: It does, I'll add the new info tonight :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on June 13, 2013, 04:06:16 PM
Get out from the ML menu and press "Q"

Choose the empty orange border, in the picture.

(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg594%2F5006%2Fvram0.png&hash=67b11bab8ea4aa28e64e2f594411bb76)

And that is what you are looking for:

(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg13%2F7413%2Fvram1.png&hash=374db6da24b96b07be04763ba7d025fc)

I think the developers will add it to the ML menu. Am I right Nanomad?  :P

How do you change WB back to canons WB from video mode if you wanted to?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on June 13, 2013, 05:11:47 PM
Besoin D'aide!!!

Quand Je Film en Mode Raw avec Mon Canon 650D, et que je le transforme en format dng, il y a un genre de grain de couleur sur la video?
Que Faire S'il Vous Plait!!!

C'est un problème connu et il sera fixé dans l'avenir.

Thank you french class. ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Aborgh on June 13, 2013, 07:44:45 PM
How is it going with the pink lines in RAW-recording?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 13, 2013, 09:07:53 PM
No solution so far. But you can easily map them as "defective" pixles and batch apply a bad pixles removal effect in post-processing
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Aborgh on June 13, 2013, 09:37:19 PM
No solution so far. But you can easily map them as "defective" pixles and batch apply a bad pixles removal effect in post-processing

And how is that done? :P Someone want to point me in the right direction?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on June 13, 2013, 10:18:00 PM
And how is that done? :P Someone want to point me in the right direction?

you could use a mask with a copy underneath shifted a few pixels over or a wire removal tool or paint it out. 
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Maddoxfotos on June 13, 2013, 10:56:32 PM
Hey can anybody tell me where to go about finding out more about the raw video files, Workflow, Transcoding and ect.......?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Aborgh on June 14, 2013, 01:21:01 AM
No solution so far. But you can easily map them as "defective" pixles and batch apply a bad pixles removal effect in post-processing

But why don't they show up in normal recording?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1ricca on June 14, 2013, 01:36:48 AM
If you have to go back to Auto, ML is probably not for you ;)

LOL I also agree. However, people like me... I have a wife who uses my gear and is also pretty pro but about 1 tier below me. She uses my T4i for taking pictures and video of her Kindergarten classroom she teaches and sometimes things like Jpeg Medium and Auto WB get turned on simply to make the less important things less of a PITA for her. Even then she's 100% Manual exposure like me but why bother adjusting stuff to that degree for such mundane photos like Kindergarten pics. That's why she does Jpeg also. Why have to use LR for such things, ya know? So it definitely has its place.

Also in run n gun situations, sometimes its really useful. Rather than get a video with my indoor WB settings, I just walked outside and there's something happening that will either be missed entirely or baked in with horrible WB. Auto saves the day for clutch moments occasionally like that. 
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on June 14, 2013, 03:19:13 AM
Also in run n gun situations, sometimes its really useful. Rather than get a video with my indoor WB settings, I just walked outside and there's something happening that will either be missed entirely or baked in with horrible WB. Auto saves the day for clutch moments occasionally like that.

I agree and besides if your shooting in raw then thats what lightroom is for, tweaking such settings :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on June 14, 2013, 06:27:47 AM
Yeah, but you can use Canon menu for that, don't see why it should be added in ML...
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on June 14, 2013, 06:36:44 AM
Yeah, but you can use Canon menu for that, don't see why it should be added in ML...

In video mode you cant change it via Canon menu as far as I know. Only way I know is to change to photo mode and change it via quick menu.

I should mention I am using Satriani's build from may 31st.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on June 14, 2013, 07:02:52 AM
I'm sure you can, just as with all other Canon cameras ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on June 14, 2013, 07:10:51 AM
I'm sure you can, just as with all other Canon cameras ;)

I tried everything I could think of. I like to use some of the canon presets sometimes in a pinch and the only solution I found is to go into photo mode to change it from kelvin to Canon presets
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: maximehaag on June 14, 2013, 08:41:25 AM
Hi all, quick question : by the time ML gets to "Final" Release, will it be compatible with the new firmware 1.0.4 ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on June 14, 2013, 08:54:53 AM
Hi all, quick question : by the time ML gets to "Final" Release, will it be compatible with the new firmware 1.0.4 ?

good question and did anyone notice how the t4i has been dropped from Cannons camera line on their website in an attempt to sell the t5i lol

I wonder what changes have been made to the firmware and if maybe a better build for ML will be possible with this actual firmware release?

Edit found some info on the firmware :)

Firmware Version 1.0.4 incorporates the following fixes:

1. Fixes the following phenomena which may occur when the camera is used in combination with certain lens models equipped with a stepping motor.
Affected lenses: EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM / EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM.
1. The camera may freeze in rare instances if you try to shoot with a lens cap attached or meter a subject in low contrast in Live View (or Movie) shooting.
2. Fine focus adjustment may not be possible in Remote Live View on the EOS Utility software.
2. Fixes a phenomenon in which some SD card products are not recognized by the camera.
3. Corrects some misspellings displayed on the menu screen.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on June 14, 2013, 09:25:27 AM
tell, and it is possible to update an official insertion if the ML is already established? I won't receive a brick?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on June 14, 2013, 09:31:52 AM
Most probably you'll get the LED blinking continuously at startup and you'll wonder why :D
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1ricca on June 14, 2013, 09:36:35 AM
In video mode you cant change it via Canon menu as far as I know. Only way I know is to change to photo mode and change it via quick menu.

I should mention I am using Satriani's build from may 31st.

He's right actually. The Q menu in Video Mode doesn't let you change the WB presets on the Satriani builds that I've tested. You have to change to photo mode, then the quick menu. 
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on June 14, 2013, 09:39:22 AM
Are you sure? did you try every single option from the Q menu?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kostasra on June 14, 2013, 09:50:40 AM
New firmware 1.0.4 !!!

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer/eos_slr_camera_systems/eos_digital_slr_cameras/eos_rebel_t4i#DriversAndSoftware

And here

http://www.canon-europe.com/Support/Consumer_Products/products/cameras/Digital_SLR/EOS_650D.aspx?faqtcmuri=tcm:13-1059266&page=1&type=important
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on June 14, 2013, 09:59:56 AM
already in a course about an insertion official, tell and how me to be updated on it if costs ML how it is possible to remove ML?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1ricca on June 14, 2013, 10:13:46 AM
Are you sure? did you try every single option from the Q menu?

You can't move the cursor in the WB preset area while in video mode.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1ricca on June 14, 2013, 10:16:01 AM
You can't move the cursor in the WB preset area while in video mode.

Correction.... you can use touch controls to select a WB preset from the Q menu in Video Mode. The D-Pad doesn't work in the way we described though.

SOLVED THEN FOR NOW:

1. Go to Q menu
2. Go to WB presets
3. Just touch a preset or the Auto preset
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1ricca on June 14, 2013, 10:17:40 AM
New firmware 1.0.4 !!!

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer/eos_slr_camera_systems/eos_digital_slr_cameras/eos_rebel_t4i#DriversAndSoftware

And here

http://www.canon-europe.com/Support/Consumer_Products/products/cameras/Digital_SLR/EOS_650D.aspx?faqtcmuri=tcm:13-1059266&page=1&type=important

Who's down to test our ML alphas on the new firmi? I'm in the process of moving and can't afford to take extra chances with my gear until I get settled back in.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on June 14, 2013, 11:24:37 AM
I thought there will never be a firmware update for the 650D  ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: MarlonSenanayake on June 14, 2013, 12:15:27 PM
Does ML works with 1.0.4 firmware
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on June 14, 2013, 01:58:33 PM
Hello

I installed ML but I got this massage "Houston, we have a problem" after rebooting after firmware update(step 5)

I was shocked, turned the camera quickly of and did it again.
Now it works.

I dont know if it is important.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on June 14, 2013, 02:21:24 PM
The ML developers are world champions to scare users "Don't click me!", I like it ;D
Had we ever easter eggs in ML?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Phhoenyxx on June 14, 2013, 02:24:43 PM
good question and did anyone notice how the t4i has been dropped from Cannons camera line on their website in an attempt to sell the t5i lol

I wonder what changes have been made to the firmware and if maybe a better build for ML will be possible with this actual firmware release?

Edit found some info on the firmware :)

Firmware Version 1.0.4 incorporates the following fixes:

1. Fixes the following phenomena which may occur when the camera is used in combination with certain lens models equipped with a stepping motor.
Affected lenses: EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM / EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM.
1. The camera may freeze in rare instances if you try to shoot with a lens cap attached or meter a subject in low contrast in Live View (or Movie) shooting.
2. Fine focus adjustment may not be possible in Remote Live View on the EOS Utility software.
2. Fixes a phenomenon in which some SD card products are not recognized by the camera.
3. Corrects some misspellings displayed on the menu screen.

You just made my day! I knew this occasional freezing issue was firmware-related. I kept telling people not to bother returning their T4i's and to just be patient for a Canon firmware update. I haven't really had the issue lately and was starting to believe that it was just a battery issue (when the battery was new and hadn't been used in several months while it was in the box). It does make sense about the lens cap and low contrast though. As far as I can remember, it only ever happened with either the lens cap on or in low contrast and low light situations. I'm so happy right now! I just hope ML will be compatible with the new firmware. I won't install it until I know ML will work on it. Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: DavidFell on June 14, 2013, 02:26:11 PM
Is there anyone who HASN'T clicked "don't click me?"
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 14, 2013, 02:41:11 PM
Don't use ML with the 1.0.4 firmware. It shouldn't run, but who knows what canon did
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Phhoenyxx on June 14, 2013, 02:47:47 PM
Don't use ML with the 1.0.4 firmware. It shouldn't run, but who knows what canon did

It shouldn't run or it should but don't risk it? In any case, I won't try it. Are you guys planning on making it work on 1.0.4 one day though? It is a significant firmware update in that it fixes a bug that has plagued many T4i users (myself included) for a while now. So on the one hand, we're all happy that Canon finally resolved the issue, but on the other hand, we're now worried that we will never get ML to work with it... LOL ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: MarlonSenanayake on June 14, 2013, 03:08:59 PM
It shouldn't run or it should but don't risk it? In any case, I won't try it. Are you guys planning on making it work on 1.0.4 one day though? It is a significant firmware update in that it fixes a bug that has plagued many T4i users (myself included) for a while now. So on the one hand, we're all happy that Canon finally resolved the issue, but on the other hand, we're now worried that we will never get ML to work with it... LOL ;)
yeaa agree 1.0.4 is a major firmware update, coz it fix the freeze problem, if u guys can make ML work on 1.0.4 it would be great
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on June 14, 2013, 03:56:51 PM
  but who knows what canon did

[Wish mode on]
-Fixed SD controller now writes at 110 MB/SEC
-Increased system memory, so we can have more fun
-Added a PRISM file so the NSA can view all your photo's
-USB host will allow you to attach a external HDD to your camera and record directly to that volume (at USB 3 speeds btw...)
-Inserting coffee beans into the housing will make the camera grind them, and make a nice espresso...
[/Wish mode off]

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 14, 2013, 04:02:14 PM
It shouldn't run or it should but don't risk it? In any case, I won't try it.
Correct me if I'm wrong... It shouldn't run meaning ML checks the firmware installed on your camera to make sure it hasn't changed.  If you have a different firmware on your camera than ML is expecting, it won't start ML.  If the hash is magically the same or the safety mechanism in ML doesn't work for some other reason, it could be very bad for your camera.  Running ML with a different Canon firmware than ML is expecting is very dangerous (could go into self-destruct, burn-it-down, buy-a-new-camera mode).
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: xanta on June 14, 2013, 04:23:55 PM
[Wish mode on]
-Fixed SD controller now writes at 110 MB/SEC
-Increased system memory, so we can have more fun
-Added a PRISM file so the NSA can view all your photo's
-USB host will allow you to attach a external HDD to your camera and record directly to that volume (at USB 3 speeds btw...)
-Inserting coffee beans into the housing will make the camera grind them, and make a nice espresso...
[/Wish mode off]

nice ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on June 14, 2013, 04:26:26 PM
Correction.... you can use touch controls to select a WB preset from the Q menu in Video Mode. The D-Pad doesn't work in the way we described though.

SOLVED THEN FOR NOW:

1. Go to Q menu
2. Go to WB presets
3. Just touch a preset or the Auto preset

Wow, I feel so stupid now. I said I tried everything and I did besides touch screen. When I got the camera I only used the screen than I got ML and realized how much faster you could navigate using the buttons, thanks for finding this.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kostasra on June 14, 2013, 04:48:38 PM
The ML developers are world champions to scare users "Don't click me!", I like it ;D
Had we ever easter eggs in ML?

Want to see who will press it !!!  ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on June 14, 2013, 05:37:38 PM
Want to see who will press it !!!  ;D

You never pressed it? I think it was like the 3rd thing I did after putting ML on my camera.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1% on June 14, 2013, 06:20:23 PM
Don't click me is just whatever the dev wanted to throw in there as a test. There was a "blue screen" easter egg at one point.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on June 14, 2013, 09:31:10 PM
blue screen on canon firmware, lovely ;D
Next time please "kernel panic", then many users will fall for it ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: killr0y on June 14, 2013, 09:33:28 PM
Hey guys.. Haven't been 'round here for a while since it makes my wait much shorter when not checking the forums every day to see if it's done ;)

Does anyone know if the intervalometer will be able to use RAW video mode to take a time lapse RAW video?  If so, what is the max frame size for these images?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 14, 2013, 09:36:08 PM
Intervalometer + RAW DNG silent pics is as good as it gets
or FPS override + raw video
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kostasra on June 14, 2013, 11:23:15 PM
blue screen on canon firmware, lovely ;D
Next time please "kernel panic", then many users will fall for it ;)

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Sergioam on June 14, 2013, 11:47:43 PM
HI! im loving ML on my 650D, but i have one question, why theres no audio improvements on this alpha of ML? i think i've read  something about the audio controller changed, but i dont remember, im looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: killr0y on June 14, 2013, 11:50:02 PM
Intervalometer + RAW DNG silent pics is as good as it gets
or FPS override + raw video
Tried the RAW DNG but I get red dots all over the screen in the area that the AF sensors seem to be in.  W/ FPS override, when I shoot 1/24fps for some reason the shutter is super slow (its set to 1/50 but acts more like half a second)...
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Aborgh on June 15, 2013, 12:15:33 AM
Why does the AF spots appear in RAW recording and not in normal recording?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha] <== Canon Firmware update T4i
Post by: studioe on June 15, 2013, 02:49:22 AM
CCF13104.FIR was just released

http://usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer/eos_slr_camera_systems/eos_digital_slr_cameras/eos_rebel_t4i#

how does this affect the alpha?

+++++++++++
Affected Product
EOS Rebel T4i
Details
Firmware Version 1.0.4 incorporates the following fixes:

1. Fixes the following phenomena which may occur when the camera is used in combination with certain lens models equipped with a stepping motor.
Affected lenses: EF-S 18-135mm f / 3.5-5.6 IS STM / EF-S 18-55mm f / 3.5-5.6 IS STM.
1.   The camera may freeze in rare instances if you try to shoot with a lens cap attached or meter a subject in low contrast in Live View (or Movie) shooting.
2.   Fine focus adjustment may not be possible in Remote Live View on the EOS Utility software.
2. Fixes a phenomenon in which some SD card products are not recognized by the camera.
3. Corrects some misspellings displayed on the menu screen.

Firmware Version 1.0.4 is for cameras with firmware Version 1.0.1 or earlier. If the camera’s firmware is already Version 1.0.4, it is not necessary to update the firmware.

When updating the firmware of your camera, please first review the instructions thoroughly before you download the firmware.

Support
The new Firmware Version 1.0.4 can be downloaded by clicking here.
This information is for residents of the United States and Puerto Rico only. If you do not reside in the USA or Puerto Rico, please contact the Canon Customer Support Center in your region.
Thank you,
Customer Support Operations
Canon U.S.A., Inc.
Contact Information for Inquiries:
Canon Customer Support Center
Phone: 1-800-OK-CANON
1-800-652-2666
TTD: 1-866-251-3752
E-mail: carecenter@cits.canon.com
For additional support options: www.usa.canon.com/support


Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: xanta on June 15, 2013, 04:21:15 AM
Could anyone explain what AF means in AF dots? autofocus?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1ricca on June 15, 2013, 04:58:23 AM
Could anyone explain what AF means in AF dots? autofocus?

Yes. Same as how AF means autofocus on the official packaging of every lens and how AF is on the switch on every lens... including the lenses you own in your sig :P
I can relate to wanting to make sure it's not some other techy term, but seriously, deduction isn't even necessary on this one ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: xanta on June 15, 2013, 07:21:51 AM
another problem
i set the bitrate to 3.0x and the MOV was 55mbps while the default 1.0x was 45mbps

1920 24p
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 15, 2013, 08:30:18 AM
The multiplier it's just a hint to canon firmware
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on June 15, 2013, 09:07:17 AM
Im sorry I know this was covered in the last thread but with so many replies I wasnt able to track it down and the search function for whatever reason maybe its my browser did yield any results but how do I get the zebras to show up in live view?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on June 15, 2013, 09:28:01 AM
another problem
i set the bitrate to 3.0x and the MOV was 55mbps while the default 1.0x was 45mbps

1920 24p
You need to shoot something with more detail.
Than you get 100mbps@ 2.5x but I have not seen any difference.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on June 15, 2013, 10:31:46 AM
I ask already the third time, so anybody and didn't answer how to remove ml what to put an official insertion, or it is possible not to delete and put on top?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 15, 2013, 10:42:40 AM
No offense: Please repeat your question using the language you learned. As far as I know you're using computer translation and it really sucks.

Ciao
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on June 15, 2013, 10:54:36 AM
спрашиваю третий раз, потому что ни кто не ответил на прошлые сообщения. как можно удалить МЛ, что бы установить официальную прошивку 1,0,4, или МЛ можно не удалять, а  поставить сверху 1,0,4 ?

I ask the third time, because who didn't respond to last messages. how it is possible to remove ML what to establish an official insertion 1,0,4, or the ML can be not deleted, and to put from above 1,0,4?

asked a third time, because no one has responded to past reports. how to remove the ML that would establish official firmware 1,0,4, or ML can not be removed and put on top 1,0,4?

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 15, 2013, 10:57:34 AM
- Disable card bootflag with EOSCard
- Format card on  a PC

That's it. You can upgrade to 104 if you so desire but you'll loose the ability to run ML
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: breaker on June 15, 2013, 11:20:06 AM
Will you continue to develope for the exsisting firmware, or will you look into 1.0.4 anytime soon? Is there any chance that the new firmware will make the software running more smoothly and make more CPU and momory free for ML?
And is there any chance that they have increased the SD bus speed to recognice unrecogniced SD's? ;) ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on June 15, 2013, 12:17:46 PM
but you'll loose the ability to run ML

да, но я думаю скоро появится МЛ под 104, или нет?
сейчас из МЛ я использую только фокус пикинг и гистограмму, но гистограмма есть и в стандартной прошивке. аудиометра все нет, сырое видео я не снимаю. думаю под 104 скоро должно быть обновления МЛ и там будет все работать хорошо.

yes, but I think there will be a ML soon under 104, or not?
now from ML I use only Focus peaking and the histogram, but the histogram is and in a standard insertion. the audiometer everything isn't present, I don't shoot raw video. I think under 104 there have to be ML updatings soon and everything will work there well.

yes, but I think I will soon be under the ML 104, or not? now from ML I only use the Focus peaking and histogram, but the histogram is in the standard firmware. audiometer no, raw video, I do not shoot. I think under 104 will soon be updating ML and there will be all work well.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on June 15, 2013, 01:18:02 PM
Can you find the dot locations? I believe their position is fixed (maybe they change with resolution), but if you know where they are, you can just set them as 0 (bad pixel mark) in raw2dng.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Aborgh on June 15, 2013, 02:41:40 PM
Can you find the dot locations? I believe their position is fixed (maybe they change with resolution), but if you know where they are, you can just set them as 0 (bad pixel mark) in raw2dng.
And how is that done?


There's already a superior way than either of these for now. In Lightroom or ACR, turn Noise Removal in both Luminance and Color all the way up and then adjust the detail sliders until just around the point where the dots disappear enough. Finish developing the rest of the settings (exposure, vibrance, brushes, graduated filters, WB, etc) then just select all the photos in LR or Bridge and sync your develope settings. Voila.
I would not call this a superior way because you loose a lot of detail by doing this
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 15, 2013, 03:23:30 PM
Open a silent pic DNG and look and report the pink pixels coordinates :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1ricca on June 15, 2013, 03:24:07 PM
And how is that done?

I would not call this a superior way because you loose a lot of detail by doing this

Detail slider ;) It really works.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Aborgh on June 15, 2013, 03:32:31 PM
Open a silent pic DNG and look and report the pink pixels coordinates :)

That should take a week ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 15, 2013, 04:39:10 PM
That should take a week ;)

A week? Are you kidding?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Aborgh on June 15, 2013, 05:37:13 PM
You shouldn't forget that not everyone runs Adobe software.

Thank you! How do I use the text to remove the dots?

A week? Are you kidding?

Mostly because I do not know how to report the coordinates ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1% on June 15, 2013, 05:55:59 PM
on M the video mode is always the same unless recording. 650D? Might just have to find this once and 650D dot locations will probably work here too.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on June 15, 2013, 06:05:29 PM
I've wondered this for a while, but if the way the dots are overlayed is semi-transparent (such as a add/lighten mode) then if a blank plate with only the dots was placed over the footage and set to the opposite mode (subtract/darken) would this manage to remove the dots? Or would it also cause the picture to be darkened as well.

I've wanted to test this but whenever I record a solid black clip the dots are not present.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: foorgol on June 15, 2013, 06:15:59 PM
Thank you! How do I use the text to remove the dots?

You don't need the text file. See post #150 above. And #159 for an alternative approach.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: foorgol on June 15, 2013, 06:20:13 PM
I've wanted to test this but whenever I record a solid black clip the dots are not present.

Leave the lid on the lens, use lowest ISO, record a few frames. In your favorite RAW tool, push up the exposure and the dots will appear.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: killr0y on June 15, 2013, 06:35:12 PM
Anyone know what they are doing on the 5D to suppress the dots, or is this exclusive to the APS-C sensor cameras?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1% on June 15, 2013, 06:40:06 PM
Its exclusive to the crappy AF on 650D and EOS-M
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Aborgh on June 15, 2013, 08:06:07 PM
You don't need the text file. See post #150 above. And #159 for an alternative approach.

Tried it but it did not work  :(  and most of all, it is just one frame at a time
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Aborgh on June 15, 2013, 08:06:56 PM
Its exclusive to the crappy AF on 650D and EOS-M

But why doesn't it show in normal recording?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1% on June 15, 2013, 08:38:18 PM
I'm guessing canon removes it. May also turn off when LV changes from 720P30 to whatever res is recorded.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: OpenMind on June 16, 2013, 12:10:41 AM
With my stuffy head I updated the firmware of my 650D, and then thought about compatibilaty with Magic Lantern ...
Can I assume that the developers also jump on the new firmware so I can play again in a few weeks?  :)

By the way ... first post.
My name is Alex, about 10 years DSLR user (10D, 5D classic, 650D), and for about a month I was playing with Magic Lantern on a regular base ... until yesterday ...

Thanks for the great work!

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1ricca on June 16, 2013, 01:31:25 AM
You shouldn't forget that not everyone runs Adobe software.

True, not everyone is serious about media production, but then why are they recording RAW video?

I kid, I kid ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Aborgh on June 16, 2013, 10:13:50 AM
I'm guessing canon removes it. May also turn off when LV changes from 720P30 to whatever res is recorded.

Can you not look into what happens and apply that for RAW?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: sudoaptgetupdate on June 16, 2013, 12:57:19 PM
I just installed the latest build from satriani (15.6.) and my "menu screen" looks a bit weird now. Before I just saw the free space on the card next to the battery icon. Now it seems that my EXIF copyright info is on the buttom and "in conflict" to something else. It's just cosmetic but maybe it is not supposed to look like this:

(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=https%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropboxusercontent.com%2Fs%2F2lui828yhkr1zg7%2FVRAM0.JPG%3Ftoken_hash%3DAAEyp3UGXOJogPHSXlHAvf9-cgN1wIo6A1RS45WR1u4Szw%26amp%3Bdl%3D1&hash=45c3a26553c46ae0bfb02f91521d88dd)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on June 16, 2013, 01:56:25 PM
There's already a superior way than either of these for now. In Lightroom or ACR, turn Noise Removal in both Luminance and Color all the way up and then adjust the detail sliders until just around the point where the dots disappear enough.
I tried it
It kills all details and the dots are still visible.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: tommix on June 16, 2013, 03:31:34 PM
I hope raw will never work on this camera so everybody will stop spending time on this crappy feature. Beginners do not need raw video, pro' don't buy this kind of level cameras.
Really hope devs don't spend their time on raw for this cam, cause there is more important thing to do to make this alpha to beta.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 16, 2013, 03:41:22 PM
Beside the fact that RAW also gives you 14 bit silent pics? Yeah

So, instead of bashing. What features do you propose?

Btw, the overlay is supposed to look like that now. But your copyright string is a bit long :P
I'll disable that info :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Aborgh on June 16, 2013, 03:56:00 PM
Beside the fact that RAW also gives you 14 bit silent pics? Yeah

So, instead of bashing. What features do you propose?

Btw, the overlay is supposed to look like that now. But your copyright string is a bit long :P
I'll disable that info :)

I looooove the raw footage it is the single best thing about this camera! :D And when the pink dots will be removed it will be awesome!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Eslam Omar on June 16, 2013, 04:01:08 PM
will 1.0.4 be supported anytime soon?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: MarlonSenanayake on June 16, 2013, 04:13:24 PM
guys its better to update ur 650D its vital
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: xanta on June 16, 2013, 04:28:55 PM
meaningless to argue whether we need the RAW feature right guys?
nanomad and the whole team must have their own considering
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: xanta on June 16, 2013, 04:30:49 PM
guys its better to update ur 650D its vital
the newfirmware is vital
 
quite difficult to choose from ML or the new 1.0.4 firmware, until the ml could work on 1.0.4!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: _DK_ on June 16, 2013, 04:36:58 PM
I hope raw will never work on this camera so everybody will stop spending time on this crappy feature. ...

What about those who can not afford to buy cameras worth a couple of thousands?
If it will work, it would boost the video quality of this people, so why not just give it a try? I consider myself as a beginner, and yes I maybe don't need RAW, but the Image is way more detailed and sharper, than the original files. So it would be wonderfull to have it.

By the way, if it will never work some people will keep trying. If you want to stop it, you should wish for it to be done ;)



I hope most develeopers don't bother those guys, complaining about free gifts :/
Keep up your great work!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on June 16, 2013, 05:07:12 PM
guys can anyone explain to me a little about this 14bit silent pic?

I realise its a raw dng. Is the original CR2 raw from my not 14bit and if not how much is it? And lastly how does one change the size of the silent pic and correct the aspect ratio too?

Pls at least if anyone answer the first question! too curious and cant find anything on the internet on a quick search!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: xanta on June 16, 2013, 05:21:36 PM
What about those who can not afford to buy cameras worth a couple of thousands?
If it will work, it would boost the video quality of this people, so why not just give it a try? I consider myself as a beginner, and yes I maybe don't need RAW, but the Image is way more detailed and sharper, than the original files. So it would be wonderfull to have it.

By the way, if it will never work some people will keep trying. If you want to stop it, you should wish for it to be done ;)



I hope most develeopers don't bother those guys, complaining about free gifts :/
Keep up your great work!

agree
i want to help but dont know how or even whether i am qualified enough to do those work ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 16, 2013, 05:34:34 PM
1.0.4 is on the schedule, don't worry. But I'd stick with the current fw for now. It's not like they fixed something there wasn't a work-around for
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on June 16, 2013, 06:30:01 PM
I hope raw will never work on this camera so everybody will stop spending time on this crappy feature. Beginners do not need raw video, pro' don't buy this kind of level cameras.
Really hope devs don't spend their time on raw for this cam, cause there is more important thing to do to make this alpha to beta.

Since you seem to be rich why don't you go buy an Alexa or RED and don't worry about what us budget camera users are doing with our cameras.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on June 16, 2013, 09:12:15 PM
Guys please, let developers to work quietly. It's so f... tinkering stuff with disassembling firmware.
I know what I'm talking about. If you can it better so do it. Your nagging will not help devs.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on June 16, 2013, 09:47:08 PM
Has anyone else noticed ghosting in their images when shooting photos at night?

Edit: More info, I was shooting at a fair around midnight, with ISO 100, F8 and 2 second shutter on, I noticed in some of the photos like a mirror ghost effect going on in some of the photos.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: foorgol on June 16, 2013, 09:54:49 PM
I noticed vertical stripes when I recorded a sunset timelapse with FPS override. The stripes where all over the image and only occurred when it was (almost) dark. I wasn't sure if it was due to the long recording time of nearly 45 minutes or due to the dark environment...
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Edgar Matos on June 16, 2013, 11:30:31 PM
Just in this month, I had never seen so much pink since the pink panther vomited on my birthday party.

So I finally got my hands on the t4i. I tough it would be better, but the pink and green pixels pop up everywhere. It's really the AF that bad?
It's there a possibility to turn off the AF function while recording. The only thing I know for sure is that the live view look great, but the result doesn't match it.     
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on June 16, 2013, 11:44:34 PM
guys its still an alpha. and as I asked earlier does anyone know how many bits is canon raw? opposed to the 14bit silent DNG?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on June 17, 2013, 05:28:40 AM
guys its still an alpha. and as I asked earlier does anyone know how many bits is canon raw? opposed to the 14bit silent DNG?

I do believe it's 14-bit as well although don't quote me on that.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on June 17, 2013, 08:54:36 AM
I noticed vertical stripes when I recorded a sunset timelapse with FPS override. The stripes where all over the image and only occurred when it was (almost) dark. I wasn't sure if it was due to the long recording time of nearly 45 minutes or due to the dark environment...

Mate can you create a step to step guide for us who never used java before?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on June 17, 2013, 12:05:35 PM
New question I just cant solve, nomatter how hard I look an asnwer on the internet and forums.

Why would anyone use Silent Pic 14bit instead of Canon Raw CR2 other than it is silent?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on June 17, 2013, 12:16:57 PM
New question I just cant solve, nomatter how hard I look an asnwer on the internet and forums.

Why would anyone use Silent Pic 14bit instead of Canon Raw CR2 other than it is silent?

As far as i know, that is the only reason. Most dominant use would be e.g timelaps. It will save a lot of shutter action, save a lot of space, and the quality is perfect for this purpose.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1ricca on June 17, 2013, 01:01:28 PM
As far as i know, that is the only reason. Most dominant use would be e.g timelaps. It will save a lot of shutter action, save a lot of space, and the quality is perfect for this purpose.

Also, quiet moments and places during event coverage; Church, Quiet indoor area, trying to be incognito, trying to keep violent constant clicking sounds out of fellow videographer's audio, etc. It's a cool thing to have for sure. I just wish the res could be higher but I understand how it works.

Maybe some day we can find a way to do it in mirror lock-up mode or something at normal res... can only hope.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on June 17, 2013, 01:10:54 PM
скажите пожалуйста, когда примерны сроки выхода МЛ на новей версии прошивки 104? хотя бы примерно.

tell please when terms of an exit of ML are approximate on the version of an insertion 104 is newer? at least approximately.

please tell me when about release dates ML Keep up to firmware version 104? even approximately.

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on June 17, 2013, 01:25:43 PM
please tell me when about release dates ML Keep up to firmware version 104? even approximately.

Ml is developed in spare time of the developers, there is no timeline. Its done when its done.  The developers are aware of the 1.04 version, however i has no fixes that can not be overcome by a work around, so it may not have a high priority.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on June 17, 2013, 02:34:44 PM
как же 104 не может иметь высокий приоритет, если раньше из за нее откладывалась разработка МЛ для 650, разработчики сами сказали что не имея прошивки не могут сделать полноценную МЛ на 650, и вот когда она появилась говорят обратное.

as 104 can't have a high priority if earlier because of it development of ML for 650 was postponed, developers told that without having an insertion can't make full ML on 650, and here when it appeared tell the return.

how 104 can not be a high priority, if earlier it was postponed due to the development of ML 650, the developers themselves have said that without the firmware can not make a full ML 650, and that's when it appeared they say the opposite.

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 17, 2013, 03:30:44 PM
as 104 can't have a high priority if earlier because of it development of ML for 650 was postponed, developers told that without having an insertion can't make full ML on 650, and here when it appeared tell the return.

how 104 can not be a high priority, if earlier it was postponed due to the development of ML 650, the developers themselves have said that without the firmware can not make a full ML 650, and that's when it appeared they say the opposite.
I think what you are asking is if ML devs first said they needed a new firmware release before they can start on ML development, now that the first firmware is released, why are they saying it is a low priority?

A firmware update used to be easiest (only?) way to initially "hack" the firmware.  A different method was found to get access to the firmware that was running on the camera, instead of having to wait for a firmware update.  The initial access is what used to place the importance on a firmware release.  Now that ML is working with a version of Canon firmware, the importance of firmware update is diminished and  limited to, "What did Canon fix?", "Does ML have access to new features?", and "What does this update break?"  The last is the most important and the answer is likely "The firmware update breaks most/all of ML."  Stuff Canon fixed likely have a workaround already.  In this case they do.  The risk is great. The benefit is small.  Cost/benefit says low priority.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: AlecWild on June 17, 2013, 08:55:59 PM
Hi all - forgive me if this should be posted in a different forum, but I think I may have the (dubious) distinction of shooting the first completed short film with ML on the 650D. Thanks so much to the hardworking developers, to satriani for the nightly builds, and all the help on this amazing board.

The film won the Best Film prize at the Idaho 48-hour film festival - so for you perfectionists and colorists out there - this was a QUICK turnaround :)

Thanks again.

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on June 17, 2013, 09:21:23 PM
Hi all - forgive me if this should be posted in a different forum, but I think I may have the (dubious) distinction of shooting the first completed short film with ML on the 650D. Thanks so much to the hardworking developers, to satriani for the nightly builds, and all the help on this amazing board.

The film won the Best Film prize at the Idaho 48-hour film festival - so for you perfectionists and colorists out there - this was a QUICK turnaround :)

Thanks again.


lol I liked it :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on June 17, 2013, 09:22:05 PM
It may not be the correct forum, but I surly enjoyed the short film. Can you explain what features you used in ml to make this?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Sandsnor on June 17, 2013, 09:41:43 PM
Errh... Switched SD card to my new sanDisk 95mb/s to try it out. While setting up some of my preferences, At "FPS override" i chose 65 fps just for fun. A few seconds later the screen froze and now the camera won't boot ???.

Did i just brick it?  :-\
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: AlecWild on June 17, 2013, 09:46:19 PM
Well, I wanted to stick with the things that had been well-tested/reviewed by the good people on the forum, so I stayed away from RAW shooting for now :)

Used:
Zebras
Focus Peaking
Cropmarks (2.35:1)
Magic Zoom
Spotmeter and Histogram
Dialed in WB manually, AND used Green/Magenta adjustment
REC picture style (used Tech. Cinestyle)
Display contrast
Rack focus (although I did some of them manually. I found RF a little twitchy)
Movie Restart
REC Key - Shutter to Record (I used a wireless Yongnuo Wireless Radio Flash Trigger, which worked like a charm) thanks red5446 for that!

I think that's most of it. What an awesome thing to have those tools on the 650D.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 17, 2013, 10:06:20 PM
Errh... Switched SD card to my new sanDisk 95mb/s to try it out. While setting up some of my preferences, At "FPS override" i chose 65 fps just for fun. A few seconds later the screen froze and now the camera won't boot ???.

Did i just brick it?  :-\

Never had it happen (the brick I mean, but I had it crash multiple times). Pull the battery and card out. Let it rest for a minute or so and try to boot it up without a card
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on June 17, 2013, 10:09:52 PM
i wodering, Beside the know bug for the pink lines, will the general quality of raw go up with updates?

It seems to me raw, silent pic or video for that matter adds much more noise than original canon one.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on June 17, 2013, 10:15:10 PM
A raw picture will also have more noise as its jpg counter part. Jounfux noise in post, and you and up with a better end result.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on June 17, 2013, 10:16:12 PM
i know what you mean! But I was actually comparing it with canon raw. not jpeg :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on June 17, 2013, 10:18:21 PM
You mean canon raw film? Or raw pic vs silent pic
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on June 17, 2013, 10:23:02 PM
I assume ML silent pic Raw and Video raw is the same thing, right? just streamable. Any of those ML raw DNG either silent pic or extracted from Video. Compared to Original Canon Photo Raw has much more noise overall. Other than the known bug of pink dots.

 Lets just say for the sake of the arguement I took a photo on iso 800 with silent pic RAW and the same photo with Canon RAW. When I put them on photoshop I match the pixel size for a more fair comparison. And the ML raw has so much more noise then the canon.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Sandsnor on June 17, 2013, 10:32:29 PM
Never had it happen (the brick I mean, but I had it crash multiple times). Pull the battery and card out. Let it rest for a minute or so and try to boot it up without a card

That was, with panic in my eyes my first action!

Waited about a ½ hour while charging the battery to 100%. Screen black, shutter mute and no sign of life.
Any idea? Is there any reset button(s)?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 17, 2013, 10:35:23 PM
Uhm that's very weird indeed. Does the card have any logs?

Does the led blink when you put a SD card inside that has an autoexec.bin on it?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Sandsnor on June 17, 2013, 10:47:51 PM
Uhm that's very weird indeed. Does the card have any logs?

Does the led blink when you put a SD card inside that has an autoexec.bin on it?

No light. There are two logs, rom0.bin & rom1.bin, how do i open them?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on June 17, 2013, 10:49:43 PM
I assume ML silent pic Raw and Video raw is the same thing, right? just streamable. Any of those ML raw DNG either silent pic or extracted from Video. Compared to Original Canon Photo Raw has much more noise overall. Other than the known bug of pink dots.

 Lets just say for the sake of the arguement I took a photo on iso 800 with silent pic RAW and the same photo with Canon RAW. When I put them on photoshop I match the pixel size for a more fair comparison. And the ML raw has so much more noise then the canon.

The canon raw is the full sensor, silent pic is just the live view . If you read the documentation about sp. you would know that the resolution is only 1720x974.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on June 17, 2013, 10:59:08 PM
live view doesnt cover the whole sensor? I dont get it. But anyway is the extra noise I get at higher iso result of the lower resolution raw?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 17, 2013, 11:03:54 PM
Waited about a ½ hour while charging the battery to 100%. Screen black, shutter mute and no sign of life.
I had similar symptoms when I turned off the auto-off feature in the Canon menu and left the camera running until the battery ran out, with ML installed.  A couple things I tried, and I can't remember what worked:
- a different card without ML
- the same card without ML
- a different card with ML
- pressing and holding set when you turn on the camera (with ML on SD card)
I think I took out the battery and SD card and turned the camera off between each attempt.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Sandsnor on June 17, 2013, 11:31:39 PM
I had similar symptoms when I turned off the auto-off feature in the Canon menu and left the camera running until the battery ran out, with ML installed.  A couple things I tried, and I can't remember what worked:

Thanks but it really seems dead. Are you sure you did nothing else?

A couple of things that may be the cause this:
-When i installed ML and did the firmware update it said it couldn't find any update.
-I set the fps override to 65fps
-Directly after the above step, under the FPS Override category i was switching between Accurate fps, 180d no yello effect (or whatever it was called) etc.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 18, 2013, 12:17:28 AM
Thanks but it really seems dead. Are you sure you did nothing else?
That's all I remember trying.  Set pressed on camera startup is what worked now that I remember.

No red SD card LED lighting up?
Have you touched the 1.0.4 firmware update from Canon?
You downloaded the Satriani build today?
What platform is your host (Win, Mac, Linux)?

Trying to gather some more relevant info.  Maybe you are already working this with nanomad and/or a1ex via a different channel.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1ricca on June 18, 2013, 02:55:48 AM
Thanks but it really seems dead. Are you sure you did nothing else?

A couple of things that may be the cause this:
-When i installed ML and did the firmware update it said it couldn't find any update.
-I set the fps override to 65fps
-Directly after the above step, under the FPS Override category i was switching between Accurate fps, 180d no yello effect (or whatever it was called) etc.

A different battery, perhaps. To toss one out there.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: foorgol on June 18, 2013, 03:43:40 AM
The canon raw is the full sensor, silent pic is just the live view . If you read the documentation about sp. you would know that the resolution is only 1720x974.

Because some of you asked: the silent DNGs are 14-bit files, just like the DNGs you get from the RAW movies. The only difference is that the silent DNGs come with a "black border". If you dissect the files, you'll notice that they technically contain 1808 x 727 pixels. But of these pixels, only an area of 1734 x 695 is usable, with the top left corner starting at 74, 28. AFAIK the unused pixels are used internally for detecting the black point.

The DNGs from the RAW videos don't contain this frame of unusable pixels. Maybe it's removed by Raw2DNG, don't know...
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: red5446 on June 18, 2013, 04:18:39 AM
Thanks but it really seems dead. Are you sure you did nothing else?

A couple of things that may be the cause this:
-When i installed ML and did the firmware update it said it couldn't find any update.
-I set the fps override to 65fps
-Directly after the above step, under the FPS Override category i was switching between Accurate fps, 180d no yello effect (or whatever it was called) etc.

that happen to me once.

i just pulled of the battery and charge it 100%
then don´t enter sd card
and turn on the camera on other than manual mode. like program or auto etc.
turn in off and move the dial to manual and turn it on

format the sd card and install ml again.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on June 18, 2013, 10:00:05 PM
I said on an earlier post that raw silent pictures seems to have to much noise on high ISO, (other than the pink dots known bug) Here is an example. The first picture is  from ML Silent pic ISO 1600
(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FawS7uXs.jpg&hash=a7eebd8e87f420d61fe5deeebaee6fc2)

And this picture is not even a raw! this is jpeg on Small Size from the canon menu, ISO 1600 also

(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6krn0Nc.jpg&hash=d6214e91152f74c838b91abaf1a2805c)

There is absolutely no proccesing or whatsoever on each picture. Is it normal?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: OpenMind on June 18, 2013, 10:26:43 PM
I said on an earlier post that raw silent pictures seems to have to much noise on high ISO, (other than the pink dots known bug) Here is an example. The first picture is  from ML Silent pic ISO 1600
(image)
And this picture is not even a raw! this is jpeg on Small Size from the canon menu, ISO 1600 also

(image)

There is absolutely no proccesing or whatsoever on each picture. Is it normal?

Besides a lot of noise in the first image, I see some aliasing and last but not least, compressed vertical dimensions...
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on June 18, 2013, 10:28:17 PM
Besides a lot of noise in the first image, I see some aliasing and last but not least, compressed vertical dimensions...

Yeah for some reason the ML raw as it comes out of the card its dimensions are way to streched so I had to compress it to make it look a little natural.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on June 19, 2013, 12:17:29 AM
I said on an earlier post that raw silent pictures seems to have to much noise on high ISO, (other than the pink dots known bug) Here is an example. The first picture is  from ML Silent pic ISO 1600
(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FawS7uXs.jpg&hash=a7eebd8e87f420d61fe5deeebaee6fc2)

And this picture is not even a raw! this is jpeg on Small Size from the canon menu, ISO 1600 also

(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6krn0Nc.jpg&hash=d6214e91152f74c838b91abaf1a2805c)

There is absolutely no proccesing or whatsoever on each picture. Is it normal?

I think it's normal for the amount of light in the room
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: brewerrj on June 19, 2013, 12:28:02 AM
I saw that there was a firmware update for the camera that fixes some stuff in combination with 18-135 STM lens. I am having some problems with this lens. A lot of Focus problems and sometimes it says that there is no lens connected to the camera. Am I the only one with these problems?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on June 19, 2013, 12:41:10 AM
I saw that there was a firmware update for the camera that fixes some stuff in combination with 18-135 STM lens. I am having some problems with this lens. A lot of Focus problems and sometimes it says that there is no lens connected to the camera. Am I the only one with these problems?

the admin for development for the 650D has said that magic lantern won't run with the canon firmware update at this point, so it's a take your choice for the time being
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1ricca on June 19, 2013, 12:58:32 AM
I saw that there was a firmware update for the camera that fixes some stuff in combination with 18-135 STM lens. I am having some problems with this lens. A lot of Focus problems and sometimes it says that there is no lens connected to the camera. Am I the only one with these problems?

AF just sucks all around with this camera, but check the previous page or somewhere in this thread to see a list of official fixes. I don't think AF had anything to do with it, it's just bad on the 650D.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 19, 2013, 01:16:02 AM
I think it's normal for the amount of light in the room
demetrisag, With RAW it is easier to Expose To The Right (ETTR) You may have to reduce the exposure/brightness, but this will kill the noise at the same time.

There are several commits for Auto-ETTR I think for that very purpose.

If you are comparing the silent pic for a higher quality than what you can get from standard Canon firmware, you will likely be disappointed.  The positive is a silent pic.  This works extremely well for time lapse where you are taking LOTS of pictures and are going to put them in a video.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Sandsnor on June 19, 2013, 01:43:31 AM
No red SD card LED lighting up?
Have you touched the 1.0.4 firmware update from Canon?
You downloaded the Satriani build today?
What platform is your host (Win, Mac, Linux)?

No light.
I didn't touch 1.0.4 firmware update from Canon.
Used ML_N_17.06.2013 when the muddle started, now I'm not even using a sd card to make sure ML isn't badly configured.
I use win7x64 as host(?).

What will press & holding the set button actually do?

If you don't have a 2nd battery, I would go to Best Buy or somewhere and get one, that would rule out
that possibility. Radio Shack has them for $22. Lenmar LP-E8

I will definitely not get another battery if that implies going to another tectonic plate. But i've heard there should be at least one more Canon battery in the eurasian plate.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 19, 2013, 02:28:06 AM
No light.

What will press & holding the set button actually do?
No light = not good
Unless it is simply that your battery died, this will need help from higher powers (a1ex or nanomad) :(

Holding the set button on startup prevents ML from loading. You can start your camera with your ML card in without running ML.  I was able to do this and low level format the card.  I was seeing the red LED though when I put the SD card in the camera.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: foorgol on June 19, 2013, 03:59:01 AM
If you do use Rawtherapee, use version 3, version 4 kept crashing on me with Win7

The latest version 4.0.11 runs smoothly here on my Linux box... :)

(SCNR, no flamewar intended)

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First I was shocked, because there were still loooots of dots in the video. Then I found out that you made a before-after-comparison :)

Nice!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on June 19, 2013, 11:02:08 AM
Thanks for the answers people on my raw question :)

Now I was wondering, when I take a silent pic on photo mode it is way different than movie mode. And that is without Rec_raw activated.

To explain the resolution on photo mode is 1734*695 and the pictures looks really streeetched! Aspect ration is all sorts of wrong, whereas on movie mode the resolution is 1734*1158 and the pictures looks fine. Is this a bug? Or do I need to do something when I take silend pics on photo mode?

And I believe all the noise I get on silent pic is a kind of bug. I just tested taking a picture on Iso 100, shutter speed 1/6 (indoor picture) on a tripod. And the pic still has noise just like iso 1600! Though whats wierd when I take outdoor picture naturally shutter speed goes way faster. There is no noise. But Iso is always 100. I also tested outdoor picture 1600 iso with extremely high shutter speed and no noise either.

It's almost as if noise on silent pic is relevant to shutter rather than iso. The slower the shutter speed the more noise you have?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on June 19, 2013, 11:44:18 AM
If you don't understand how ExpSim works, that does not count as a ML bug. If LiveView refreshes 30 (or 60?) times per second, how can it have the same brightness as a 1/6-second exposure? Obviously, by bumping ISO to astronomical values.

This is why I said so many times that you should not record video in photo mode (and nobody believed me).

Only in movie mode, the exposure values displayed on the screen are the same values used for silent pics.

And even there, the downsampling process (line skipping) increases the noise, compared to a regular picture. Plus, you were comparing a raw to a jpeg (raw unprocessed and jpeg with noise reduction applied).
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on June 19, 2013, 11:50:02 AM
If you don't understand how ExpSim works, that does not count as a ML bug. If LiveView refreshes 30 (or 60?) times per second, how can it have the same brightness as a 1/6-second exposure? Obviously, by bumping ISO to astronomical values.

This is why I said so many times that you should not record video in photo mode (and nobody believed me).

Only in movie mode, the exposure values displayed on the screen are the same values used for silent pics.

And even there, the downsampling process (line skipping) increases the noise, compared to a regular picture. Plus, you were comparing a raw to a jpeg (raw unprocessed and jpeg with noise reduction applied).

Thanks for the reply Alex! I'm noob on those things but I'm learning slowly. I never realised liveview was so hard-connected to pics, I thought it was only just a preview. As for distorion I get on pictures on photo mode, can you help me on that?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: foorgol on June 19, 2013, 03:20:54 PM
As for distorion I get on pictures on photo mode, can you help me on that?

Eeeehm... you run $FAVORITE_IMAGE_EDITOR and correct the aspect ratio to 3:2???

If you're looking for something to batch-resize a huge number of pictures, I can recommend ImageMagick (http://www.imagemagick.org)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on June 19, 2013, 03:49:56 PM
No light.
I didn't touch 1.0.4 firmware update from Canon.
Used ML_N_17.06.2013 when the muddle started, now I'm not even using a sd card to make sure ML isn't badly configured.
I use win7x64 as host(?).

What will press & holding the set button actually do?

The light only flashes when there's an SD card in your camera. If I take my card out
and don't close the SD door and turn the camera on, I get nothing. With the card still out,
and the SD door closed, then I get a screen that says "no card in camera", then the usual
M, shutter speed, fstop #, ISO, etc screen.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on June 19, 2013, 07:03:11 PM
Using a non-ML card, ML still loads because I
updated the firmware with ML. Just not the latest Satriani build, I need a card with the latest
autoexec.bin and ML folder for that.

Do you mean that if you insert an sd without ml, you still booth ml?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on June 19, 2013, 07:21:45 PM
Do you mean that if you insert an sd without ml, you still booth ml?

Sorry, that was a mistake. I didn't think I put ML on any other card but my 2 Sandisk Extremes. But I did. So no, you have
to have ML on the card.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on June 19, 2013, 07:59:14 PM
to update ML I just replace the existing files with a newer builds filer and Im good to go or do I need to repeat some steps?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on June 19, 2013, 08:03:12 PM
to update ML I just replace the existing files with a newer builds filer and Im good to go or do I need to repeat some steps?

yes, replace the autoexec.bin and the ML folder
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: brewerrj on June 20, 2013, 01:26:20 AM
Is there any progress in sound menu & sound meters in live view? I am desperately waiting for the second one!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Sergioam on June 20, 2013, 02:13:48 AM
Is there any progress in sound menu & sound meters in live view? I am desperately waiting for the second one!

me too!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on June 20, 2013, 09:45:48 AM
Hey guys,
I'm afraid we'll skip today's build, because that caused a black screen at least for me, when you go into the Module section in ML menu.
Better safe than sorry  :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on June 20, 2013, 11:10:37 AM
I have moved the pink dot removal tool of Foorgol to a new topic ( I hope I got all the posts).

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.0 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.0)

It is a very nice tool and I believe it deserves its own tread. Additional it does not directly relates to this alpha release.

Kind regards
Blade

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: foorgol on June 20, 2013, 02:03:23 PM
I have moved the pink dot removal tool of Foorgol to a new topic ( I hope I got all the posts).

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.0 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.0)

Hi Blade, that's certainly a good idea... in fact I already started getting a bad feeling about spamming this thread with the tool posts :)

Thanks for moving all the posts and see you on the other side in the other thread!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on June 20, 2013, 04:02:19 PM
Errh... Switched SD card to my new sanDisk 95mb/s to try it out. While setting up some of my preferences, At "FPS override" i chose 65 fps just for fun. A few seconds later the screen froze and now the camera won't boot ???.

Did i just brick it?  :-\
Is there any new information why the camera bricked?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on June 21, 2013, 08:18:23 AM
i have asked this here 2nd page: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5780.0

but some of you may not see it so i've copied my quiestion also here:


"Okay, i have managed to record my raw videos. i tested my 650d with 2 sd cards.

First one was a toshiba exceria 16gb 30mb/sec write speed. it recorded 1280x580 or something (not remember exactly) quite well. but for 26secs.

Second one was a Sony Sd card with 45mb/sec write speed. and i managed to record 1280x640 without frame skipping for 26 seconds again. after that camera shutted itself off. and i tried 1280x720 and it was going well for 7-9 seconds after that frame skipping started and if i remember correctly it skipped 13frames and recorded near ~400.

so i think the first problem is with the buffer size, yes? because after 26-27 seconds the camera shuts itself down..."
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kostasra on June 21, 2013, 12:53:30 PM
I have a second card and there I had pass the program ...
I did format the card and I had to transfer data!
Well since bought a new means of transfers tried to transfer the program again on the card!
Well after I've done hard format I tried to boot the card with the EOScard.exe but keep getting message that the path can not be found  :o
Unfortunately doesn't work and the camera whenever I put this card!
The card works fine and I can see on the computer and can pass files, but can't pass the ml or to have it as second card...

 :-[
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: liberty hound on June 21, 2013, 01:39:35 PM
Hey guys, I'm quite new to ML. I had it working on my t4i with firmware 1.0.1 but when I updated to 1.0.4 it stopped working. Can anyoe tell me how to make it work with the new firmware if possible...Thanks so much
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on June 21, 2013, 01:43:48 PM
Hey guys, I'm quite new to ML. I had it working on my t4i with firmware 1.0.1 but when I updated to 1.0.4 it stopped working. Can anyoe tell me how to make it work with the new firmware if possible...Thanks so much

The current version is NOT compatible with firmware 1.0.4. I expect that it will work in the future. For now, if you want ML, do not upgrade. ML will check what FW you are running and will therefor not start if the wrong FW is found. The developers just do not know what canon changed and will have to spend time on it.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: liberty hound on June 21, 2013, 02:02:34 PM
Thanx for your quick reply Blade.. I'm really looking forward to the update.. Where is the best place to keep checking when it's out? Also, how do I make a donation ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Paper_Kitten on June 21, 2013, 02:17:29 PM
I'm next to start using ML with my 650D but i have (silly) doubt. Is the 1.0.1 the firmware to install ML? i've read this whole thread and i didn't find any mention except that it shouldn't be installed on firmware 1.0.4 (and one mention that it worked on 1.0.1 a pair of posts ago). i just wanted to be sure before starting with it.

thanks for your amazing hard work!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Stevenbaril on June 21, 2013, 03:34:51 PM
Before I install this build, can anyone tell me if the Exposure Menu is working on it? I'm mainly interested in the ISO settings. Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 21, 2013, 03:48:03 PM
I'm next to start using ML with my 650D but i have (silly) doubt. Is the 1.0.1 the firmware to install ML? i've read this whole thread and i didn't find any mention except that it shouldn't be installed on firmware 1.0.4 (and one mention that it worked on 1.0.1 a pair of posts ago). i just wanted to be sure before starting with it.

thanks for your amazing hard work!
Yes, 1.0.1 is the current Canon firmware that ML is compatible with. Use that.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 21, 2013, 03:55:49 PM
because after 26-27 seconds the camera shuts itself down..."
This sounds more like the normal functioning of the Canon firmware.  The Auto-off feature turns the camera of if you don't use it for 30 seconds (like when you don't take a picture in photo mode).  I think taking RAW video doesn't look to the Canon firmware that you are doing anything. It looks to the firmware like you are just sitting there with liveview running.

Try setting the the Auto-off time in the Canon Menu to something longer than the video you want to take.  I think there are options like 5 or 30 minutes.  I wouldn't disable it unless you need a video longer than the longest time.  I don't know which column it is in. you'll have to browse the menu.  likely one of the wrenches.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on June 21, 2013, 04:24:30 PM
This sounds more like the normal functioning of the Canon firmware.  The Auto-off feature turns the camera of if you don't use it for 30 seconds (like when you don't take a picture in photo mode).  I think taking RAW video doesn't look to the Canon firmware that you are doing anything. It looks to the firmware like you are just sitting there with liveview running.

Try setting the the Auto-off time in the Canon Menu to something longer than the video you want to take.  I think there are options like 5 or 30 minutes.  I wouldn't disable it unless you need a video longer than the longest time.  I don't know which column it is in. you'll have to browse the menu.  likely one of the wrenches.

That was a clever answer. how stupid i am ;D ;D. now i'M trying it! thanks!

Edit: SUCCESS! i can record raw 1280x640 as long as i like. better res than this skips frames.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dreamARTz on June 21, 2013, 05:35:19 PM

Edit: SUCCESS! i can record raw 1280x640 as long as i like. better res than this skips frames.
HOW?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 21, 2013, 06:09:10 PM
HOW?
How to record raw?  Use the latest build, load modules, setup RAW recording in the video menu

How to record raw at that resolution? Use a fast card (45 MB/s or higher) and 24p

How to record raw for that duration? make sure your camera doesn't shut itself off, use a resolution and frame rate your SD card can keep up with.  There may be a 4GB (2GB?) file size limit if you are not using exFAT.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kostasra on June 21, 2013, 06:29:45 PM
No one have any idea about  Reply #254  :-[
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 21, 2013, 07:14:56 PM
I have a second card and there I had pass the program ...
I did format the card and I had to transfer data!
Well since bought a new means of transfers tried to transfer the program again on the card!
Well after I've done hard format I tried to boot the card with the EOScard.exe but keep getting message that the path can not be found  :o
Unfortunately doesn't work and the camera whenever I put this card!
The card works fine and I can see on the computer and can pass files, but can't pass the ml or to have it as second card...

 :-[
I'm not exactly sure what you are asking... seems like translator issue maybe.  I think you are wanting to put ML on a second card.  It also sounds like you have a new card reader maybe.

You need EOSCard to properly set the BOOTFLAG on the card.  If that doesn't work, ML will not run.  Path not found means it is likely trying to access the wrong drive.  Check My Computer for where your SD card is mounted (which drive letter).  Make sure that that drive letter is selected in EOSCard.  You may need to restart EOSCard if it has been running before you put the SD card in the reader.

Otherwise it should be just like the setup in first post on this thread.  Just without the camera setup steps.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on June 21, 2013, 07:16:03 PM
No one have any idea about  Reply #254  :-[

1. Put the card in the camera and do a low lever format
2. Copy the latest ML build in the card, also dont forget to copy the 650D-safe-dumper.fir
3. After you copied those files run the eoscard.exe and select a) eos_develop b) boodisk and save. Also refresh just to make sure both are chosen.

After that you should be fine.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kostasra on June 21, 2013, 07:26:49 PM
If i put the card in the camera the camera doesn't work .....

And to power on after that the camera i put out the battery and i put my second card and then works!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kostasra on June 21, 2013, 07:30:43 PM
1. Put the card in the camera and do a low lever format
2. Copy the latest ML build in the card, also dont forget to copy the 650D-safe-dumper.fir
3. After you copied those files run the eoscard.exe and select a) eos_develop b) boodisk and save. Also refresh just to make sure both are chosen.

After that you should be fine.

I did but again doesn't work  ???
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 21, 2013, 07:33:13 PM
If i put the card in the camera the camera doesn't work .....

And to power on after that the camera i put out the battery and i put my second card and then works!

Have you had ML work for you before?  Does the second card have ML? Both the camera and the card have to have the boot flag enabled.  The camera via the firmware update .fir and the card via EOSCard.  You want to do the EOSCard step BEFORE moving the ML files to the SD card.  If EOSCard writes any files to the card, you should remove them.  Remove anything that isn't under the DCIM and MISC folder (I think those are the two default folders).  Then write your ML autoexec.bin and ML folder to the SD card.

EDIT: also are you using the Satriani build or compiling your own?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kostasra on June 21, 2013, 07:39:43 PM
I had the program but took it to be hard reset to the card from my pc!

Now when i put the card in my camera the camera doesn't work...

The camera doesn't work only with this card!

When i put out this card ,must be put out and the battery, and then i put other card , put the battery and then the camera power on.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kostasra on June 21, 2013, 08:01:46 PM
I can't believe it!!!
I made hard reset the card with other operation win 64 and finally the card works very well!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 21, 2013, 08:04:33 PM
I had the program but took it to be hard reset to the card from my pc!

Now when i put the card in my camera the camera doesn't work...

The camera doesn't work only with this card!

When i put out this card ,must be put out and the battery, and then i put other card , put the battery and then the camera power on.
Try holding the SET button down when you start the camera.  If your camera starts this way, do a low level format of the card removing ML from the card. Then reinstall ML on the SD card.

If the camera doesn't start with SET held down, try putting ML on the card again and try the above again.

EDIT: Great glad you got it to work
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 21, 2013, 09:37:15 PM
For the record, you had the card bootflag on. Run EOSCard to remove it or else the camera won't boot (check ML FAQs)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: red5446 on June 22, 2013, 01:55:50 AM
nanomad is it possible to make available the quick autofocus mode in video like canon 7d?
photo mode has it but if switched to video recording that function is lost and it´s useful.

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: liberty hound on June 22, 2013, 02:13:59 AM
does anyone know if it's possible to down grade mt 650d firmware from 1.0.4 back to 1.0.1 once i've already upgraded. ML won't work with the new firmware . Thanx in advance for your advice
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on June 22, 2013, 02:35:46 AM
does anyone know if it's possible to down grade mt 650d firmware from 1.0.4 back to 1.0.1 once i've already upgraded. ML won't work with the new firmware . Thanx in advance for your advice

I can't say for sure, but it seems like something you could do, if you could find a 1.0.1 .fir file (not on Canon's website) I went looking for one today, but couldn't find one.

http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Firmware_downgrade
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on June 22, 2013, 06:04:16 AM
I believe there was a .fir somewhere for 1.0.1. Check back a few pages.

Also to Nano: I saw a1ex's post on variable buffering. Will this also work with the 650d to help aid recording resolution limits?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 22, 2013, 08:26:06 AM
Yeah. You can do clean 720p at 24 fps. For now up to 4 gigs because the module needs a better policy on file change. I meant to post it yesterday but totally forgot
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on June 22, 2013, 10:28:32 AM
I tried to FPS override to 24 exact frames on 22nd Satriani build and it crashed giving me those logs

Code: [Select]
http://speedy.sh/wMkNm/LOG000.LOG
Code: [Select]
http://speedy.sh/4Htkf/CRASH00.LOG
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 22, 2013, 11:07:34 AM
Optimize for low light. Exact FPS needs more tweaking on my side
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Paper_Kitten on June 22, 2013, 12:02:13 PM
Yes, 1.0.1 is the current Canon firmware that ML is compatible with. Use that.

thanks! it is better be safe than sorry
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kostasra on June 22, 2013, 12:34:33 PM

Nothing important but a try for tomorrow!  8)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: tomaash on June 22, 2013, 01:44:53 PM
SILENT PICTURES. does it suppose to work in the alfa? it takes picture but when using YUV422 Convertor i get an error saying "unknown image size". what are you guys using to convert the .422 files to .jpg?

also since i would like to use that feature for shooting timelapse has anyone got good experience with it? is the image quality sufficient? ML manual says that the "image resolution is usually around 1 or 2 MPix". is that valid for 650D too?

and last thing. ML manual doesn't say what the Burst and Continuous options are for. could anyone please explain it?

thanks a lot.
(it would be great if the forum search could be narrowed to only one topic)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: liberty hound on June 22, 2013, 01:51:07 PM
I believe there was a .fir somewhere for 1.0.1. Check back a few pages.

Also to Nano: I saw a1ex's post on variable buffering. Will this also work with the 650d to help aid recording resolution limits?



I haven't been able to find the downgrade in this string. Does anyone else know where it might be ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 22, 2013, 01:55:16 PM
You can't downgrade to 101
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: liberty hound on June 22, 2013, 02:09:46 PM
You can't downgrade to 101

Bummer, I guess Ill have to wait.. Thanks anyway Nanomad
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on June 22, 2013, 03:16:28 PM
Optimize for low light. Exact FPS needs more tweaking on my side
ok, thanks nanomad
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 22, 2013, 05:25:39 PM
Disabled FPS overcranking, now optimize for exact FPS should be working again :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: diy-greenenergy on June 22, 2013, 05:32:55 PM
Here my first time lapse using ML

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on June 22, 2013, 07:11:50 PM
Disabled FPS overcranking, now optimize for exact FPS should be working again :)
Thats some good news!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on June 22, 2013, 09:07:20 PM
here some footage from my 650d.


the interesting thing is; i can see pink dots on my original copy (they are too small but still visible), but it seems they are gone on youtube. can any of you see pink dots? its youtube's crappy comppresing thing i guess.

edit: the only thing i edit the luminance and color settings to 100 in ACR (adobe camera raw plugin on photoshop cs5)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on June 22, 2013, 09:58:31 PM
Normally you can see them in Youtube too.

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on June 22, 2013, 10:11:51 PM
i edited luminance and color setting to the value of "100" maybe thats why they're gone. but like i said; i can still see them on my original copy. they are not noticable unless you look really careful though
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: JamieRollsMedia650D on June 23, 2013, 05:26:24 AM
Quick question is there any settings for taking photos at night with out tripod and long exposure times... is there a way of shooting pictures/ videos at 4K on the 650d?

thanks jamie.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on June 23, 2013, 06:46:33 AM
Quick question is there any settings for taking photos at night with out tripod and long exposure times... is there a way of shooting pictures/ videos at 4K on the 650d?

thanks jamie.

first question yes there but you could also do that in the stock cannon firmware as well, but I hope you have rock steady hands or you will pick up the shakes...

second question, no the 650d does not have strong enough hardware to process a full 4k video, we cant even do full 2k, at least currently  and from what I have seen so far.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: xanta on June 23, 2013, 10:44:28 AM
Now that the RAW feature is capable of some short clip under lower res for me and i was wondering if i want to shoot a short film (no client, just for myself) what should i choose to use, the RAW or original 1080p mov? and what is the practical use of RAW? does the 14bit deserve the compensation for the lower res?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 23, 2013, 10:55:40 AM
It all depends if you are willing to handle the increased complexity of the raw workflow. As a suggestion shoot a 720p raw, upres it to 1080p and see how that compares to native H264 1080p. I suspect the quality will be the same if not better. The color latitude is definitely bigger. And you get no moire if you shoot in 5x zoom mode jut like the good old 600D
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: DeadMan911 on June 23, 2013, 12:04:51 PM
on ML 16.05 MagicZoom working fine, but in the next versions MagicZoom twitching. If i move the window MagicZoom down-left, down-right, then fine, but if I turned on the record again begins to twitch.
And also, if I select a Picture Style "Film PictureStyle", it will not be displayed Zebra. On the other styles that are tried, zebra displayed. Can I fix it somehow, not ispodbzuya separate styles for recording and Standby?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on June 23, 2013, 04:11:21 PM
It all depends if you are willing to handle the increased complexity of the raw workflow. As a suggestion shoot a 720p raw, upres it to 1080p and see how that compares to native H264 1080p. I suspect the quality will be the same if not better. The color latitude is definitely bigger. And you get no moire if you shoot in 5x zoom mode jut like the good old 600D

Nanomad, sorry if this is a stupid question but how do you shoot in zoom mode on the 650D?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on June 23, 2013, 05:14:25 PM
Nanomad, sorry if this is a stupid question but how do you shoot in zoom mode on the 650D?
use the zoom key on your camera to zoom to 5X. Only that. Believe it or not.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on June 23, 2013, 05:50:13 PM
use the zoom key on your camera to zoom to 5X. Only that. Believe it or not.

it zooms in but when i hit the record button it zoom outs. havent tried for raw video. but it should work for normal canon video mode too right?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Paper_Kitten on June 23, 2013, 06:14:23 PM
is the HDR preview working (or enabled) on the 650D? maybe i'm not doing it right... i tried the SET+wheel shortcut in play mode but it didn't seem to work at all
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on June 23, 2013, 06:21:26 PM
is the HDR preview working (or enabled) on the 650D? maybe i'm not doing it right... i tried the SET+wheel shortcut in play mode but it didn't seem to work at all

HDR video works.

if you see your lcd flashing while you're recording, than you are on the right way. if not, you do something wrong.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Paper_Kitten on June 23, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
midnite, thanks for your answer, but i was actually asking for the HDR picture preview (sorry, i didn't explain myself clearly!  :-[ )
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 23, 2013, 08:01:43 PM
it zooms in but when i hit the record button it zoom outs. havent tried for raw video. but it should work for normal canon video mode too right?
Raw video only of course :-)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: DeadMan911 on June 23, 2013, 08:16:52 PM
nanomad, bug and question
on ML 16.05 MagicZoom working fine, but in the next versions MagicZoom twitching. If i move the window MagicZoom down-left, down-right, then fine, but if I turned on the record again begins to twitch.
And also, if I select a Picture Style "Film PictureStyle", it will not be displayed Zebra. On the other styles that are tried, zebra displayed. Can I fix it somehow, not ispodbzuya separate styles for recording and Standby?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on June 23, 2013, 09:14:01 PM
midnite, thanks for your answer, but i was actually asking for the HDR picture preview (sorry, i didn't explain myself clearly!  :-[ )

the best you'll get is that the LCD will show you the high iso then the low iso. If you watch a playback it will look like a strobe light
is on. It sounds like you're asking if there's a preview for the finished HDR, which there sadly is not. You just have to get a feel for
what is the right settings for certain light conditions.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on June 23, 2013, 10:17:23 PM
midnite, thanks for your answer, but i was actually asking for the HDR picture preview (sorry, i didn't explain myself clearly!  :-[ )

you explained yourself very clear. i'm the one who couldnt understand you. because i dont know what "HDR preview" is. i am sorry :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: daveplotty on June 24, 2013, 12:30:15 AM
I have been following this topic from the beginning. Just want to say thanks to everyone for all the testing and hard work and eagerly waiting to install the final version once all the bugs have been fixed.

Also why can't I subscribe to this topic?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Chuck J on June 24, 2013, 02:39:11 AM
Congrats on Alpha! CUTGW!  8)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: millerivan on June 24, 2013, 08:05:51 AM
Hello, i am from Russia!)
Very long waiting ML)
Significant errors in this version?
I can postvil this firmware without consequences?)
Tomorrow I take school graduation) afraid if something goes wrong)
Google used a translator;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: shoora on June 24, 2013, 11:09:28 AM
Hello, i am from Russia!)
Very long waiting ML)
Significant errors in this version?
I can postvil this firmware without consequences?)
Tomorrow I take school graduation) afraid if something goes wrong)
Google used a translator;)
Relax. It's one in life time event. Do not spoil it playing with a new cool toy.
The ML will add some unique features but it will not make your camera shot still as good as EOS-1D X or video as XF305.
Any way, you'll need some time to figure it out. Right now you don't have it.
Успехов!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kostasra on June 24, 2013, 03:07:22 PM
I think is awesome the result....  8)



Enjoy it hd.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: AgentJJ on June 24, 2013, 07:49:25 PM
What tasks (features) are required to be completed to move the dev into Beta?  Is there a place where this is documented?  I'm assuming this is in black box testing?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: eyeful on June 24, 2013, 10:21:38 PM
Hello Im sure this is an oversight on my part, but I have been searching for the trap focus feature that I use often on my t3i. Pls lemme know where Im missing this very useful function.

Anybody know if this t4i version has trap focus? Pls HELP!! mUCH THX!!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 24, 2013, 10:30:36 PM
What tasks (features) are required to be completed to move the dev into Beta?  Is there a place where this is documented?  I'm assuming this is in black box testing?
'Tis but thy name that is my enemy;
Thou art thyself, though not an Alpha.
What's Alpha? it is nor zebras, nor focus peaking,
Nor raw video, nor fps override, nor any other part
Belonging to a magic lantern. O, be some other name!
What's in a name? that which we call a beta
By any other name would smell as sweet;

Check the first post as it refers to what is causing crashes.  Known crashes should likely be fixed first but there is no official criteria.  Unless nanomad has some secret list of tasks ;)  With the Satriani builds, it has taken on more of a rolling alpha feel with no real releases.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: AgentJJ on June 25, 2013, 12:13:38 AM
You've got to keep the Iambic Pentameter (with an occasional feminine ending):

'Tis but thy name that is my enemy;
Thou art thyself, though not an Alpha true.
What's Alpha here? not zebras, nor peaking,
Nor raw footage, nor any other part
Belonging to a Stable magic lant'rn.  O, be some other name!
What's in a name? that which we call beta
By any other name would smell as sweet;

My degree in Theatre speaking...   ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: AgentJJ on June 25, 2013, 12:14:45 AM
Quote
Check the first post as it refers to what is causing crashes.  Known crashes should likely be fixed first but there is no official criteria.  Unless nanomad has some secret list of tasks ;)  With the Satriani builds, it has taken on more of a rolling alpha feel with no real releases.

Perfect, thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Daniboy111 on June 25, 2013, 12:57:41 AM
Guys, I desperately need a way to Downgrade my firmware back to the original 1.0.1 - I can't install ML without it, I can't find the original firmware anywhere :(
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: AgentJJ on June 25, 2013, 02:46:03 AM
nanomad has some secret list of tasks ;) 

would that be the list of failing features in the features.h file?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on June 25, 2013, 02:47:35 AM
Guys, I desperately need a way to Downgrade my firmware back to the original 1.0.1 - I can't install ML without it, I can't find the original firmware anywhere :(

According to the Administrator, Nanomad, « Reply #286 on page 12 of this thread, you can't downgrade to 1.0.1. I'm not sure why, there are instructions for other canons on how to downgrade to an earlier firmware. But part of the reason might be that you may not be able to FIND that firmware. I spent a good part of a day looking for it for those who made the mistake you did. It wasn't there. Maybe because it's the firmware that comes with the camera and Canon would have no need to offer it to the public, only upgrades.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: AgentJJ on June 25, 2013, 02:51:38 AM
Getting down and dirty with ML for the first time.
(C/C++ experience with uController and just a minimal touch of FW experience.  Also homebrew OS dev experience)
I see that #define CONFIG_LCD_SENSOR stub is not defined.  How does one go about figuring out these stub addresses?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: MarlonSenanayake on June 25, 2013, 05:38:11 AM
can anyone give me the Drop box link of daily compile downloads
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on June 25, 2013, 07:48:10 AM
can anyone give me the Drop box link of daily compile downloads

???

did you not read the first post? the link is right there to the dropbox account that has the daily/nightly builds
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 25, 2013, 10:41:18 AM
Getting down and dirty with ML for the first time.
(C/C++ experience with uController and just a minimal touch of FW experience.  Also homebrew OS dev experience)
I see that #define CONFIG_LCD_SENSOR stub is not defined.  How does one go about figuring out these stub addresses?

The easiest way is to enable that config and see what stubs it needs, the try to locate them in the 650 firmware (the name is usually descriptive enough). If that fails you'll have to look inside the firmware of another camera for that function as it will give you far more hints than jus the name
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Daniboy111 on June 25, 2013, 10:49:00 AM
So is there really no way  I can install it onto my camera? Iv'e been waiting awhile to get it on the 650d :(
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on June 25, 2013, 11:00:53 AM
So is there really no way  I can install it onto my camera? Iv'e been waiting awhile to get it on the 650d :(

As long as you havent updated to the latest firmware then you can try the alpha just follow the instruction on the first post.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 25, 2013, 01:11:30 PM
So is there really no way  I can install it onto my camera? Iv'e been waiting awhile to get it on the 650d :(
Other cameras have gone through multiple versions of Canon firmware, and ML is supported on a later (not the initial) firmware. There is no download available from Canon to downgrade back to 1.0.1. I don't believe there is a method to pull the firmware off of the 650D or nanomad would have pointed that out. It looks like you will have to wait until ML is supported for 1.0.4 or later.  :(
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 25, 2013, 01:15:51 PM
You've got to keep the Iambic Pentameter (with an occasional feminine ending):

'Tis but thy name that is my enemy;
Thou art thyself, though not an Alpha true.
What's Alpha here? not zebras, nor peaking,
Nor raw footage, nor any other part
Belonging to a Stable magic lant'rn.  O, be some other name!
What's in a name? that which we call beta
By any other name would smell as sweet;

My degree in Theatre speaking...   ;)
Nicely done. A developer and theatre major. Welcome to the party :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on June 25, 2013, 01:24:20 PM
can anyone give me the Drop box link of daily compile downloads

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hxsv61cq992egmy/BtTgp4q6i0
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: aequitas on June 25, 2013, 01:27:47 PM
I also made the mistake of updating to 1.0.4 :(, I would love to help testing so if there would be any possibility to get ML on my 650D :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: AgentJJ on June 25, 2013, 04:09:21 PM
Are the audio issues related to the commented out stubs in Stubs.c ?
What is is the safe dumper .fir doing?  Enabling the bootdisk flag on the camera?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: AgentJJ on June 25, 2013, 04:21:29 PM
Answered my own question:
safe dumper dumps your current firmware as a backup and does enable the bootdisk flag on camera...
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 25, 2013, 07:36:33 PM
Are the audio issues related to the commented out stubs in Stubs.c ?
If you want to look at audio stuff, it is currently disabled as the audio IC is different from previous cameras.  However, 1% has mentioned that it should be similar to the EOS M and the EOS M is working to some degree.  I think the audio levels work when recording but not when idle.  Look to the EOS M and likely 1%'s fork, tragic-lantern, if my memory is correct.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Sandsnor on June 25, 2013, 09:06:52 PM
Is there any new information why the camera bricked?

Went to the store to try out another battery.

Tried a new one, still no life signs.
Thought to myself "Oh well, just send it to repair."
Switched back to my first battery and Bam! It worked again.

I thank so much for the support I got from different directions. Some very helpful, some not so. (:

To clear things out.
The camera was never bricked, just battery failure after FPS overriding. Peace of cake.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: AgentJJ on June 25, 2013, 09:42:07 PM
The camera was never bricked, just battery failure after FPS overriding. Peace of cake.

Happy Day!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on June 25, 2013, 09:45:31 PM
Went to the store to try out another battery.

Tried a new one, still no life signs.
Thought to myself "Oh well, just send it to repair."
Switched back to my first battery and Bam! It worked again.

I thank so much for the support I got from different directions. Some very helpful, some not so. (:

To clear things out.
The camera was never bricked, just battery failure after FPS overriding. Peace of cake.

congrats!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1ricca on June 26, 2013, 01:34:57 PM
Has the Magic Zoom display gone back to being synced with the display so that it's not all sliced and non-vsynced in any of the latest builds?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: millerivan on June 26, 2013, 07:00:59 PM
Many thanks to developers)))
Why not show the sensitivity of sound? ???
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 26, 2013, 07:15:03 PM
Many thanks to developers)))
Why not show the sensitivity of sound? ???
This has been asked and answered many times.  You are not alone in wanting this. :) The audio IC is different from previous version of the Rebel line.  This is a requested feature that will take much in-depth work.  Many hours + deep knowledge of the audio IC + knowledge of ML audio.  This is taking a back seat to getting ML stable on the 650D. 
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: millerivan on June 26, 2013, 07:36:52 PM
This has been asked and answered many times.  You are not alone in wanting this. :) The audio IC is different from previous version of the Rebel line.  This is a requested feature that will take much in-depth work.  Many hours + deep knowledge of the audio IC + knowledge of ML audio.  This is taking a back seat to getting ML stable on the 650D.

All the same, thank you so much for this working version)) :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on June 26, 2013, 09:34:28 PM
Is continuous RAW at 720p24 possible with this card?
http://www.amazon.de/SecureDigital-Capacity-Speicherkarte-Frustfreie-Verpackung/dp/B00422J0CG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1372274898&sr=8-5&keywords=sdhc
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on June 26, 2013, 09:47:46 PM
Is continuous RAW at 720p24 possible with this card?
http://www.amazon.de/SecureDigital-Capacity-Speicherkarte-Frustfreie-Verpackung/dp/B00422J0CG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1372274898&sr=8-5&keywords=sdhc

that's cutting it close, that's 36.8 mb/s and this camera is only good for 40 tops. I bump down the framerate to 20fps and it works fine.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on June 26, 2013, 11:26:39 PM
I still do wonder if downsampling of RAW to a lower bit such as 12 or 10 is possible in-camera. Surely this would save bitrates and thus allow for higher-resolution recording.

The max I can get right now is 36.5Mb/s with 1472 as my width and 2.35:1 as my aspect. Bringing down the bit depth would most likely allow for consistant recording in the 1762 range.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: AgentJJ on June 26, 2013, 11:57:54 PM
I still do wonder if downsampling of RAW to a lower bit such as 12 or 10 is possible in-camera.

It's a work in progress but mostly looking like an issue with CPU speed.  There were talks of getting real low level with the ARM achitecture and seeing if the barrel shifting operations of ARM would speed this along.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: AgentJJ on June 27, 2013, 12:06:51 AM
Current Developers:
I'm looking to dump the recent 650D firmware update to disassemble and check out if there are any other hints to that can speed us along and even help to setup for a port of ML on the fw update.
Where can I find documentation on an IDA of the dump/fw including any decryption/keys?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: bradybunch987 on June 27, 2013, 12:52:29 AM
How do I get rid of these pink dots all in one clump in the middle of my image? this is bothering me, and is very distracting.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on June 27, 2013, 12:55:29 AM
How do I get rid of these pink dots all in one clump in the middle of my image? this is bothering me, and is very distracting.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.0
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mdfaisal on June 27, 2013, 10:32:59 AM
you guys are trully amazing...  ;D
just bought 650D and install ML  ;)

waiting for stable release and fully worked raw HD format video like 60D  ::)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Qarok on June 27, 2013, 11:37:05 AM
Hi developers, as would first I a huge pronounce thank you for your work. I look forward to the final version!

Can you provide information to which functions for the EOS will come 650D? For example ISO50?

Thank you. You are great!
 :-*
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on June 27, 2013, 03:15:36 PM
The Camera and ML dont update the shown remaining free space on card after RAW recording.
After turning the camera on and off the right value of free space is shown.

I think it worked on an older build, I think it was the build from 12.06.13
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: cawahe on June 28, 2013, 12:26:55 AM
crap i updated to 1.0.4 but i had ml before too...why did i not know this D:
Please make it work for 1.0.4 too!!!!!!!!!!!! i am cryinggg 
ML was so amazing!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: squilliam on June 28, 2013, 02:13:20 AM
here some footage from my 650d.


the interesting thing is; i can see pink dots on my original copy (they are too small but still visible), but it seems they are gone on youtube. can any of you see pink dots? its youtube's crappy comppresing thing i guess.

edit: the only thing i edit the luminance and color settings to 100 in ACR (adobe camera raw plugin on photoshop cs5)

As a rule of thumb when shooting video, you want your exposure to be double (as close to double as possible ) your FPS. So, at 24 FPS your exposure should be 1/48th (1/50 is the nearest), or at 30 FPS it should be 1/60th.

Just a suggestion   :D
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1ricca on June 28, 2013, 08:31:09 AM
Has the Magic Zoom display gone back to being synced with the display so that it's not all sliced and non-vsynced in any of the latest builds?

Anyone?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: TrOm@ on June 28, 2013, 10:11:26 AM
Hello,

I do not read the rest of the topic because my English is not perfect, but do you think this alpha version could run on the 700D which is very close to the 650D model?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 28, 2013, 11:12:55 AM
No way. About MZ, I'll have to re-check but as I said:
- No Tearing -> Camera buttons non working -> Sucks, I won't do it as it may cause harms in the long run.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: TrOm@ on June 28, 2013, 11:24:17 AM
ok and thanks, I'll still follow the evolution of this topic to get familiar with the ML change
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 28, 2013, 12:12:07 PM
ok and thanks, I'll still follow the evolution of this topic to get familiar with the ML change
You may want to follow this instead
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5951.0
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: TrOm@ on June 28, 2013, 01:46:05 PM
Thank you dngrhm, but I am also dedicated to the topic 700D and I will also monitor that the 650D to see how changing ML for this model
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mdfaisal on June 28, 2013, 02:17:15 PM
with the latest version ML (today)

what is the Maximum resolution for 24p continous recording ?

Is it pink frame in raw video has fix?

and what is option to warm up the card at camera startup (experimental), why do we need this opt ?   :(
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kmcray on June 28, 2013, 03:38:41 PM
not going to take up a lot of space on the message board, but here is a link to my post in the RAW video section related to 650d/t4i (post 52) and a 720p recording
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5780.50 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5780.50)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: eyeful on June 28, 2013, 03:54:44 PM
Hello! I love ML! Still trying to figure out if trap focus is available on this build. I use it all the time with my t3i. Pls tell me this is an oversight on my part. Any help is greatly appreciated. Respek to Nanomad and all developers.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on June 28, 2013, 03:59:19 PM
with the latest version ML (today)

what is the Maximum resolution for 24p continous recording ?

Is it pink frame in raw video has fix?

and what is option to warm up the card at camera startup (experimental), why do we need this opt ?   :(

It records at 1280 x 720 at 24p at 36.8 MB/s
And you can use 1600 x 900 at 15 FPS at 36 MB/s, that's all I've tried so far

There is a pink dot removal tool in development that you can download here http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.new#new (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.new#new)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mdfaisal on June 28, 2013, 04:32:09 PM
It records at 1280 x 720 at 24p at 36.8 MB/s
And you can use 1600 x 900 at 15 FPS at 36 MB/s, that's all I've tried so far

There is a pink dot removal tool in development that you can download here http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.new#new (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.new#new)

yeah I know about the magnificent pink removal tool. but I read the latest changelog build Satriani https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hxsv61cq992egmy/qFWy7q9VZA/ChangeLog.txt

Quote
Today's changes:
----------------

3ecd254bdba1 | alex: raw_rec: option to warm up the card at camera startup (experimental)
b77a85f7ac68 | alex: raw_rec: added some small speed hacks from 1% (slow down Canon dialog refresh on 5D3/5D2/50D, disable AE and WB on older cameras)

 modules/raw_rec/raw_rec.c |  146 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
 1 files changed, 124 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)


Yesterday's changes:
--------------------

ac1db39643b3 | alex: raw_rec: pink frame fix for 5D2/50D 5x, confirmed by a.d.

 modules/raw_rec/raw_rec.c |  4 ++--
 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

so you can records at 1280 x 720 at 24p with continously?
what card do you use ?


not going to take up a lot of space on the message board, but here is a link to my post in the RAW video section related to 650d/t4i (post 52)
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5780.50 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5780.50)

whoops... ok  ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on June 28, 2013, 04:41:11 PM
and what is option to warm up the card at camera startup (experimental), why do we need this opt ?   :(
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/3ecd254bdba1907110eb72a98b2b9aeb2785a3a5
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on June 28, 2013, 04:49:07 PM
yeah I know about the magnificent pink removal tool. but I read the latest changelog build Satriani https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hxsv61cq992egmy/qFWy7q9VZA/ChangeLog.txt

so you can records at 1280 x 720 at 24p with continously?
what card do you use ?


whoops... ok  ;D


I'm not sure how long it will record at 36 MB/s. I've read that the 650D won't record at more than 40 MB/s
so I guess we just need to test it more to find out it's limits. I'm interested in the 1600 x 900 size but again
that's at 36 MB/s at 15 FPS which is maybe cutting it a bit close to the max bitrate that can be recorded. I'm thinking
a larger crop at less FPS is going to yield a better image than a smaller crop at more FPS, just because
of the greater amount of pixels. This is the first I've heard of the warming up of the cards. I was reading the
daily builds for a long time and trying each one, but I've fallen a bit behind :(

I use a Sandisk Extreme 45MB/s. Seems like spending more money on a faster card would be a waste of money
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lidstudios on June 28, 2013, 05:43:23 PM
Focus Peaking on 650D using an external display doesn't seem to work properly. I played around with it but still couldn't get anywhere.

Other than this, I am extremely happy with the build. Great work!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on June 28, 2013, 09:21:52 PM
Unfortunately, the FPS feature all the time was ineffective for 650D  ::)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on June 28, 2013, 09:54:56 PM
I hope my faster card will arrive tomorrow by mail.

It should be possible to copy the ML files from the old card to the new card, right? So I don`t loose my ML settings?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: AgentJJ on June 29, 2013, 02:51:22 AM
Code: [Select]
../../picoc/library_ml.c: In function 'LibPress':
../../picoc/library_ml.c:132:14: error: 'BGMT_PRESS_FULLSHUTTER' undeclared (first use in this function)
../../picoc/library_ml.c:132:14: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in
../../picoc/library_ml.c: In function 'LibUnpress':
../../picoc/library_ml.c:158:14: error: 'BGMT_PRESS_FULLSHUTTER' undeclared (first use in this function)
In file included from ../../picoc/pico.c:13:0:
../../picoc/pico.c: In function 'PlatformExit':
../../picoc/platform_ml.c:62:1: warning: 'noreturn' function does return [enabled by default]
make: *** [pico.o] Error 1

This is the error I get in the latest 650D platform build with 4.7.3 prebuilt GCC ARM toolchain on Ubuntu 12.10. 
It ('BGMT_PRESS_FULLSHUTTER') appears to be declared.  Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: AgentJJ on June 29, 2013, 03:23:07 AM
Not seeing it defined in gui.h.  Could that be why?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 29, 2013, 10:02:51 AM
Yeah gonna push the fix out later today.

On a side note, good old 600D video crop mode is coming back (5x only)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Airjaff on June 29, 2013, 03:16:58 PM

On a side note, good old 600D video crop mode is coming back (5x only)

That's great.  Will it work on none raw video mode?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: djxltecno on June 30, 2013, 12:46:36 AM
You can't downgrade to 101

Nanomad, do you think that we have a ML version someday working with Canon 650D 1.0.4 firmware?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on June 30, 2013, 01:17:00 AM
Nanomad, do you think that we have a ML version someday working with Canon 650D 1.0.4 firmware?

as many have already stated in this thread, yes it is on the list of things to do once the devs have a good base done with the current ML and have everything mapped out they will then do a version for the newer firmware, as for now its not in the sights so it may be a while.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on June 30, 2013, 09:42:48 AM
That's great.  Will it work on none raw video mode?

RAW and H264
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on June 30, 2013, 10:18:53 AM
Yeah gonna push the fix out later today.

On a side note, good old 600D video crop mode is coming back (5x only)
я не совсем понял о чем речь, цифровой зум в режиме записи в 650д, я правильно понял?
I do not quite understand what I mean, the digital zoom is in the recording mode in the 650d, I understand correctly?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on June 30, 2013, 02:01:09 PM
я не совсем понял о чем речь, цифровой зум в режиме записи в 650д, я правильно понял?
I do not quite understand what I mean, the digital zoom is in the recording mode in the 650d, I understand correctly?

yes, recording in raw and h264
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mojo on June 30, 2013, 04:08:11 PM
Tried the 26/6 build and can't find the shortcut feature which allow quick changes to WB, ISO & LCD brightness etc..
(previously triggered via the Disp button on 600D)
Am i missing something?  :P
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mdfaisal on June 30, 2013, 08:23:19 PM
I wish for the next build the dev team manage to make shoot_malloc total larger than 95m ;D so the camera can record 720p 24p continously raw video more stable...

Cross my finger
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on July 01, 2013, 12:02:36 PM
Tried the 26/6 build and can't find the shortcut feature which allow quick changes to WB, ISO & LCD brightness etc..
(previously triggered via the Disp button on 600D)
Am i missing something?  :P

The 650D has one less button compared to the 600D (I think)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: _DK_ on July 01, 2013, 06:40:30 PM
The 650D has one less button compared to the 600D (I think)

The DISP button is missing on the 650D. Here is a view from above, where you can spot the missing button:
[spoiler](https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ft4ivst3i.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F06%2Fsbs-650d-600d-top.jpg&hash=e3e5a1e664be969a09bf74cf0a765869)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1% on July 01, 2013, 06:49:22 PM
So MZ isn't sync'ed on this camera either or just while recording? At least you have display filters, right?

EOSM it got all flickery and I don't remember changing anything. I notice ADTG has sync.. can we just use that for MZ/display filter?

Packaging crop zoom will be nice, on M probably don't have a way to use a shortcut.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on July 01, 2013, 09:36:36 PM
I'll have to re-check everything sync-related. And the vsync of ADTG is probably related to sensor readout so it may be a bit off.

Uhm, no way of using crop mode you said? Why is it so? Can't you just go back to canon menu and select a stock video resolution?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on July 01, 2013, 11:54:46 PM
The DISP button is missing on the 650D. Here is a view from above, where you can spot the missing button:
[spoiler](https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ft4ivst3i.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F06%2Fsbs-650d-600d-top.jpg&hash=e3e5a1e664be969a09bf74cf0a765869)[/spoiler]
кнопки "дисплей" на 650д нет, но есть датчик, если его закрыть то дисплей отключается, он делает туже работу что и кнопка "дисплей" на 600д.

the 'display' on the 650d, but there are sensor if you close the display is turned off, it does the same job as the button 'display' on the 600d.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 30dbs on July 02, 2013, 12:02:02 AM
I've noticed a tiny bug, not sure if it effects anyone else.

The "+" zoom button is "sticky" when using ML.

if I click it to zoom in on a picture it zooms all the way in, as if I'm holding it down. but it only does this when using ML.

I used the same card, but formatted and removed ML and the bug was gone. I then reinstalled it an back came the bug =)

It's not really a problem, just thought I'd share.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1% on July 02, 2013, 12:14:18 AM
I have to put it on a menu item, can't throw it on a button as there are none free (650D won't have this problem). Can go back through canon menu or video mode property. Setting IPB didn't produce b frames tho :(


Sync like 650D doesn't work on M so at this point willing to try any other type of sync.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Sandsnor on July 02, 2013, 12:45:47 AM
I've noticed a tiny bug, not sure if it effects anyone else.
if I click it to zoom in on a picture it zooms all the way in, as if I'm holding it down. but it only does this when using ML.
It's not really a problem, just thought I'd share.

It's not really a problem, just thought I'd share to you sir/siress:
In ML go to "Prefs" (the monkey wrench icon) > "Image review settings" > "Quick Zoom" it should say "SinglePress -> 100" set it to what your heart desire.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: cawahe on July 02, 2013, 02:22:22 AM
waiting on a 1.0.4 version T________T
i am dying here Dx
PLease ASAP!!!!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: AgentJJ on July 02, 2013, 03:04:36 AM
Building ML for 650D still fails on pico.c
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on July 02, 2013, 05:22:38 AM
Building ML for 650D still fails on pico.c.
Most build ML for use with raw_rec module which requires disabling pico. Modify Makefile.user to define the CONFIG_PICO as N and CONFIG_TCC, CONFIG_MODULES as Y. They are all together in that file in the top-level dir. I would also remove the conditionals around the definitions of all of them. To create Makefile.user, copy Makefile.user.default to Makefile.user

EDIT: Modified per nanomad's recommendation below to prevent confusion.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 30dbs on July 02, 2013, 09:46:24 AM
It's not really a problem, just thought I'd share to you sir/siress:
In ML go to "Prefs" (the monkey wrench icon) > "Image review settings" > "Quick Zoom" it should say "SinglePress -> 100" set it to what your heart desire.
Aaaah, thank you so much. so not a bug but a genuine feature!, this firmware is amazing. Guess I need to wade through more of the options. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on July 02, 2013, 09:58:37 AM
Most build ML for use with raw_rec module which requires disabling pico. Modify Makefile.user to define the CONFIG_PICO as N and CONFIG_CONSOLE, CONFIG_TCC, CONFIG_MEMCHECK, CONFIG_TINYPY, CONFIG_MODULES as Y. They are all together in that file in the top-level dir. I would also remove the conditionals around the definitions of all of them. To create Makefile.user, copy Makefile.user.default to Makefile.user

You only need TCC and MODULES enabled and PICOC disabled. Leave everything else to default or you'll use too much memory for basically worthless features
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: aguden on July 02, 2013, 12:54:18 PM
Ok.  I know that I've screwed up totally.  I upgraded the firmware on my T4i to 1.0.4 before I realized it would put off ML for an undetermined period.  Is there any way to roll back to 1.0.1? Does anyone know where the firmware may be available? Dumb move.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on July 02, 2013, 01:06:22 PM
Ok.  I know that I've screwed up totally.  I upgraded the firmware on my T4i to 1.0.4 before I realized it would put off ML for an undetermined period.  Is there any way to roll back to 1.0.1? Does anyone know where the firmware may be available? Dumb move.
There is no known way to roll back. If it makes you feel any better, you are not alone in asking ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 02, 2013, 01:09:12 PM
Just an idea: Contact a Canon Support Partner and ask if they can downgrade.
Canon never made 1.0.1 downloadable for public.

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on July 02, 2013, 02:20:51 PM
And if they agree to the downgrade, drop me a PM before sending your camera in. I've got a few evil ideas
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: eyeful on July 02, 2013, 04:00:01 PM
Hey guys still trying to get trap focus out of this build.......is it here? :-\ If so where? Srry i use it all the time to shoot macro nature shots

with my t3i and Im really missing it on the t4i. PLEASE lemme know if Im an idiot and should just be quiet.

THANX! 
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 02, 2013, 04:09:13 PM
Not available, but there is a workaround: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3697.msg44640#msg44640
and my post below that one.

Ciao, Walter






Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on July 02, 2013, 07:43:05 PM
Alright folks, I have a new video out showcasing RAW on the 650D.


I used the latest build along with Foorgol's Pink Dot Remover (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658)

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on July 02, 2013, 08:39:42 PM
When I use the Raw recording and the 5x magnification in LV I get first  graphical errors and than the LV in grayscale.
Is it in grayscale to save power?  When I start the record the actual section will be recorded?
I am a bit worried because of the graphical errors so it is save to use?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on July 02, 2013, 09:55:18 PM
Alright folks, I have a new video out showcasing RAW on the 650D.

I used the latest build along with Foorgol's Pink Dot Remover (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658)

Enjoy!

nice film feel but... i have a felling that raw videos from 650d lacks "quality" i don't know any other words to describe this. i mean, it doesn't look like a raw video from mark iii. of course mak iii is a lot better camera but, i have a 1366x768 resolution laptop, so i can't see too much difference between 1080p and 720p and raw videos from mark iii is looks just  superior on my laptop's screen. i wonder why?

is it because lame postprocessing skills we (i) got?

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on July 02, 2013, 10:30:22 PM
nice film feel but... i have a felling that raw videos from 650d lacks "quality" i don't know any other words to describe this. i mean, it doesn't look like a raw video from mark iii. of course mak iii is a lot better camera but, i have a 1366x768 resolution laptop, so i can't see too much difference between 1080p and 720p and raw videos from mark iii is looks just  superior on my laptop's screen. i wonder why?

is it because lame postprocessing skills we (i) got?

Mostly I think it's that the Mark III is full frame and so it has more pixels to start with. In general more pixels equals better quality (example 300dpi vs 72dpi). We're already at a 1.6 crop factor and then we're cropping that to get our raw videos. But hang in there, even with that, I can clearly see that a 1280 x 720 crop is still sharper than my h264 1280 x 720 and you get a better dynamic range with raw.  Some of it is filming technique as well. Lighting, not panning too fast, not using handheld, all that is important. Right ISO, right shutter speed and aperture, that is all important in a scene looking good. I bought a motorized panning head for around $130 because I just couldn't get a slow consistent pan and my youtube videos were always jerky. The motorized head was the answer for that.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on July 02, 2013, 10:47:44 PM
nice film feel but... i have a felling that raw videos from 650d lacks "quality" i don't know any other words to describe this.
I think the quality is very good.
(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F130702%2Fmlixaboo.jpg&hash=42545d5811c3fb1ed874b1d6f595555a)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on July 02, 2013, 10:49:23 PM
okay so side question, Im thinking of shooting video in a Club, we are holding Go Go Girl Auditions, should I film in raw or should I just film with the cannons native software? the lighting wont be ideal Im sure, so any suggestions would be welcomed and super sorry if this is just to off topic.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on July 02, 2013, 11:13:23 PM
okay so side question, Im thinking of shooting video in a Club, we are holding Go Go Girl Auditions, should I film in raw or should I just film with the cannons native software? the lighting wont be ideal Im sure, so any suggestions would be welcomed and super sorry if this is just to off topic.

the lighting issue will be the same whichever way you choose. Maybe shoot HDR? I've only shot short clips but it probably will handle larger ones. Try some test runs in similar light.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on July 02, 2013, 11:43:02 PM
the lighting issue will be the same whichever way you choose. Maybe shoot HDR? I've only shot short clips but it probably will handle larger ones. Try some test runs in similar light.

HDR is fine for still objects and slowly moving around them, not so much in a still position and objects are fast moving, it creates a nasty ghost effect.

Yeah I will have to maybe do a few test videos before just seeing if anyone had any direction to point me to cut down on some of the workload.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on July 02, 2013, 11:59:23 PM
Mostly I think it's that the Mark III is full frame and so it has more pixels to start with. In general more pixels equals better quality (example 300dpi vs 72dpi). We're already at a 1.6 crop factor and then we're cropping that to get our raw videos. But hang in there, even with that, I can clearly see that a 1280 x 720 crop is still sharper than my h264 1280 x 720 and you get a better dynamic range with raw.  Some of it is filming technique as well. Lighting, not panning too fast, not using handheld, all that is important. Right ISO, right shutter speed and aperture, that is all important in a scene looking good. I bought a motorized panning head for around $130 because I just couldn't get a slow consistent pan and my youtube videos were always jerky. The motorized head was the answer for that.

actually i don't say 650d raw vids are all crap, i only compare it to m3. people that own m3 have also other professional equipment, maybe that is why they look superb. so i think you are probably right, it is mostly about handholding, fast hand moves and not messing with camera settings enough.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on July 03, 2013, 12:15:41 AM
nice film feel but... i have a felling that raw videos from 650d lacks "quality" i don't know any other words to describe this. i mean, it doesn't look like a raw video from mark iii. of course mak iii is a lot better camera but, i have a 1366x768 resolution laptop, so i can't see too much difference between 1080p and 720p and raw videos from mark iii is looks just  superior on my laptop's screen. i wonder why?

is it because lame postprocessing skills we (i) got?

It's most likely a combination of several factors:

1- The video was upscaled from 1472x612 to 1920x1080 so there's bound to be some loss in quality there.
2- It was shot run-and-gun with little time to adjust for lighting.
3- The light was just bad that day, going from cloudy to sunny and back every few minutes
4. Most of the 5D3 users spend plenty of time shooting and have access to better glass. This was shot in a span of about ten minutes while my family was visiting the tower and I had to kinda keep up with them.

So if I had actually planned shots, spent time on shooting, and/or had a better camera the results would've been substantially different. However for a sub-$1000 camera the fact that I'm able to get any RAW whatsoever is a very big deal itself. Soon I will be shooting a real short film that actually does the RAW on this camera justice.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on July 03, 2013, 12:21:01 AM
actually i don't say 650d raw vids are all crap, i only compare it to m3. people that own m3 have also other professional equipment, maybe that is why they look superb. so i think you are probably right, it is mostly about handholding, fast hand moves and not messing with camera settings enough.

M3 is $3300 new, 650D around $700 new (no lens).  Like BMW vs Honda Civic. But I drive a civic and am very happy with it. And I don't think the M3 video quality is 5 times better than the 650D. With all the tools ML has given us, we can shoot GREAT video, but much of it is knowledge and skill. Sure M3 users don't have to try as hard, but who has that kind of money? Of course most of your crop sensor lenses won't work on a full frame cam. I have one out of 3 that will. I think the 650D shoots plenty good video, even for professional use. But you have to master it, whereas you don't have to master a more expensive camera as much.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: rainman on July 03, 2013, 12:27:25 AM

Just posting so I can subscribe and get back in the action. Still on pre-alpha and doing fine for the most part. Need to update and see if the few bugs I had noticed are still there.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: foorgol on July 03, 2013, 02:34:36 AM
Im thinking of shooting video in a Club, we are holding Go Go Girl Auditions, should I film in raw or should I just film with the cannons native software?

Besides all photographic considerations, I would start with a pragmatic question: are you willing / able to shovel really huge amounts of data? One RAW frame 1472x626 is about 1.7 MB. If you shoot 24 or 25 fps, you end up with 2.5 GIGABYTE PER MINUTE. If you shoot e. g. 30 minutes footage (what I would consider not much given your setting), you have 75 GB sitting on your CF cards and (later) on your disk.

And at least during pink-dot-removal, this doubles for a short while: 150 GB.

And after you develop the RAWs into MJPG, you might have approx. 1/5 of the size, so about 15 GB...

And other figure: for me, rawtherapee and all four cores at 2.9 GHz ("Turbo Mode" :) ) need approx. 2 seconds / frame for applying some color correction, tone mapping and noise removal on a 1280x720 image. So my machine would need 50 minutes to convert one minute of 25 fps RAW material to JPG. Depending on your computer, your pace my vary, of course.

All I want to say is: RAW is nice but not really handy... :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on July 03, 2013, 09:03:42 AM
Besides all photographic considerations, I would start with a pragmatic question: are you willing / able to shovel really huge amounts of data? One RAW frame 1472x626 is about 1.7 MB. If you shoot 24 or 25 fps, you end up with 2.5 GIGABYTE PER MINUTE. If you shoot e. g. 30 minutes footage (what I would consider not much given your setting), you have 75 GB sitting on your CF cards and (later) on your disk.

And at least during pink-dot-removal, this doubles for a short while: 150 GB.

And after you develop the RAWs into MJPG, you might have approx. 1/5 of the size, so about 15 GB...

And other figure: for me, rawtherapee and all four cores at 2.9 GHz ("Turbo Mode" :) ) need approx. 2 seconds / frame for applying some color correction, tone mapping and noise removal on a 1280x720 image. So my machine would need 50 minutes to convert one minute of 25 fps RAW material to JPG. Depending on your computer, your pace my vary, of course.

All I want to say is: RAW is nice but not really handy... :)

thank you, see that right there was some very useful information, okay I will shoot with the cannons settings, I have an ultra 64gb card and an extreme 32gb and an extreme 16gb card to use during the filming and shoots.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on July 03, 2013, 01:48:15 PM
can anyone give me the Drop box link of daily compile downloads

See first page?

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6320.0 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6320.0)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on July 03, 2013, 04:24:49 PM
Hey guys,
just for info, no changes no update of daily builds, like today :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mdfaisal on July 03, 2013, 05:38:54 PM
thank you, see that right there was some very useful information, okay I will shoot with the cannons settings, I have an ultra 64gb card and an extreme 32gb and an extreme 16gb card to use during the filming and shoots.

Maybe you can play the cbr setting.  I have panasonic gh2 hacked and personally i love the contrast and color of my gh2 than any 5dmk2 video.  (Not raw video just plain canon).  And basically the hacked gh2 is to improve the bitrate video, the file becomes larger than standard. The file containt more information like color,  dynamic range,  and others.

Well i havent experiment the cbr setting in ml menu.  But i think this option is 2nd best option besides than ml raw video. And the last t
Option i want to record is using canon/standard video. The quality is not as good as my gh2 hacked. Although it only micro 4/3.


Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on July 03, 2013, 06:16:28 PM
Option i want to record is using canon/standard video. The quality is not as good as my gh2 hacked. Although it only micro 4/3.
Maybe redirect raw video process and quality conversation here....
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5780.75
Title: auto bulb ramp
Post by: neilp1 on July 03, 2013, 06:16:51 PM
Hi there

Great work. I wanted to second a question made in post 45, which i dont think was addressed yet (although i may have missed it). Is auto bulb ramping (sunrise, sunset etc) supported? i can find the manual settings under intervalometer, but cant find any auto settings.

Also, is there a 'correct exposure' indicator? like the +/- 3EV graph with the square slider on the native canon screen? cant seem to find one.

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on July 03, 2013, 06:23:05 PM
Automatic bulb ramping was replaced with ETTR + post deflicker.

For exposure indicator, you can use the ETTR hint from the histogram.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mdfaisal on July 03, 2013, 07:18:37 PM
Maybe redirect raw video process and quality conversation here....
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5780.75

sorry for my bad english.   :-[
What I mean is the best quality for recording a video using 650D is:
1. Raw video. Biggest file. files handling is more complicated. (2,5 GB per minute)
2. Using Bit Rate in ML menu. Right now Im using CBR 1,2x.  ==> big file (1,3 GB for 3 minutes video)
I never used/experiment with VBR but I think this is very promising. having a good quality video with smaller file size
3. Standard canon video default

its only my oppinion...  ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: neilp1 on July 03, 2013, 07:19:01 PM
Automatic bulb ramping was replaced with ETTR + post deflicker.

For exposure indicator, you can use the ETTR hint from the histogram.

from a different thread

Also try it instead of bulb ramping: enable intervalometer, auto ETTR and post deflicker. In theory, this should give 100% flicker-free timelapse on the entire exposure range (from 1/8000 to 30 seconds). I'll try it this weekend hopefully.

Both methods use robust statistics (that percentile thingie from the old bulb ramping), so I expect very good results.

That is awesome. Hopefully get a chance to play with that this weekend. Anyone have any example timelapses they have made using this feature? would be great to see.

cheers
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: AgentJJ on July 03, 2013, 07:24:30 PM
After installing ML:
If I disable the bootflag on the camera but leave the card as is (with its bootflag enabled and autoexec.bin), will the camera boot its normal firmware as normal?
I'm assuming the camera will just start bootloader @ 0xFFFF0000, load up its main firmware and jump in at 0x00800000 to run it while completely ignoring the card (regardless if the card is bootable).  Is this correct?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: neilp1 on July 04, 2013, 05:09:15 AM
Automatic bulb ramping was replaced with ETTR + post deflicker.

For exposure indicator, you can use the ETTR hint from the histogram.

I tried looking for this tonight, but cant find the ETTR menu in the expo tab. Has it been implemented in the 650D already, or is it due soon? im using the Satriani build from 07-02-2013.

Cheers
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kzi2006 on July 04, 2013, 11:08:27 AM
Shutter Speed tweak & graduated ramp VERY COOL!!! Thank you guys!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Lemon on July 04, 2013, 01:44:02 PM

Just an idea: Contact a Canon Support Partner and ask if they can downgrade.
Canon never made 1.0.1 downloadable for public.

Ciao, Walter

I contacted my Canon Support in Singapore where I live but they said there wasn't any way to downgrade my 1.0.4 even if I brought it into the shop (and mine's still under warranty). :(

Time to camp for that 1.0.4 build.  ;)

P.S. Could we have a nice big red notice on the first post to say not to update to firmware 1.0.4 (till 1.0.4 ML is released)? Just in case another blind guy like me doesn't know and messes up while reading the instructions.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dbeeson on July 04, 2013, 05:22:46 PM
Hi all,

I've been following the thread for a few months, now I'm ready to give it a shot with this alpha.  I have 2 questions with regards to installation, excuse my ignorance I just don't want to make any mistakes.

1. I'm using macboot on a mac.  When I open it, what exactly do I need to do? I have my sd card in the computer, I'm just wondering if I need to check anything before I click "prepare card"

2. Does it matter that I'm using Canon firmware 1.0.1?

Thanks again to everyone who helped make ML on T4i possible. 
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Lemon on July 04, 2013, 05:37:22 PM

2. Does it matter that I'm using Canon firmware 1.0.1?

Thanks again to everyone who helped make ML on T4i possible.

Yes, as of now the Alpha Stage ML only works on 650D's running Canon firmware 1.0.1.

Some of us made the mistake of upgrading to the latest Canon firmware (1.0.4) which doesn't work with the current ML.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dbeeson on July 04, 2013, 05:50:00 PM
Great, thanks Lemon. I'll wait to hear about macboot and away I go!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mdfaisal on July 04, 2013, 08:48:29 PM
Hi all,

I've been following the thread for a few months, now I'm ready to give it a shot with this alpha.  I have 2 questions with regards to installation, excuse my ignorance I just don't want to make any mistakes.

1. I'm using macboot on a mac.  When I open it, what exactly do I need to do? I have my sd card in the computer, I'm just wondering if I need to check anything before I click "prepare card"

2. Does it matter that I'm using Canon firmware 1.0.1?

Thanks again to everyone who helped make ML on T4i possible.

checked the option: Make dslr-bootable and then Prepare card
firmware 1.0.1 is the only firmware that can run ML 650D

if you are using os  10.8 then you have to run macboot.command
http://www.zenoshrdlu.com/macboot/macbootcommand.zip
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Stevenbaril on July 04, 2013, 11:21:50 PM
I'm new to ML, and am wondering how to shoot RAW video. I'm using the latest build from Satriani.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on July 04, 2013, 11:38:28 PM
I'm new to ML, and am wondering how to shoot RAW video. I'm using the latest build from Satriani.

You need to load the Module under "Modules" and turn it on under "Movie"
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on July 05, 2013, 12:13:06 AM
You need to load the Module under "Modules" and turn it on under "Movie"

he blind?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: djxltecno on July 05, 2013, 12:32:19 AM
I'm sad not to be able to use ML for my mistake of upgrading to 1.0.4, can only compensate Swedish twins and a bottle of tequila  :-(
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on July 05, 2013, 12:46:48 AM
he blind?

I was just being funny using the same font size as the persons question I was answering. I'm sure he's not blind if he has a camera.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Stevenbaril on July 05, 2013, 06:54:36 AM
Thanks newsense!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Stevenbaril on July 05, 2013, 06:56:14 AM
BTW, not blind...just like to live life large!!! :P
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on July 05, 2013, 07:47:10 AM
Thanks newsense!

No problem and keep living life large. That's the key to a long happy life.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on July 05, 2013, 09:35:03 AM
BTW, not blind...just like to live life large!!! :P

Hell yeah!!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on July 05, 2013, 11:52:17 AM
...
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on July 05, 2013, 12:58:43 PM
Hey guys,
please let's keep this thread clean and without meaningless posts.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: neilp1 on July 05, 2013, 03:53:39 PM
Hi there

Anyone have any advice on finding the auto ETTR option on the 04-07-2013 build? I only seem to have manual ramping in the intervalometer settings. Do i have to add/load a module or am i missing something?

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on July 05, 2013, 07:29:44 PM
Hi there

Anyone have any advice on finding the auto ETTR option on the 04-07-2013 build? I only seem to have manual ramping in the intervalometer settings. Do i have to add/load a module or am i missing something?

Thanks

Auto ETTR is in the exposure menu if that build has it. I believe it should.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: neilp1 on July 05, 2013, 08:15:01 PM
Thanks for the reply- im pretty sure it should have it too, but ive looked all over and cant see it. Is it in a submenu in the expo tab? any chance you have a screenshot of where i should be looking?

Cheers!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mdfaisal on July 05, 2013, 09:08:04 PM
Guys how to format exfat in SDcard?

is it:  format(exfat) in PC/mac > Format low level format in ML >  copy all files that needed to install ML > firmware update > create boot disk sdcard ?

but if apply like that, in my disk utility (mac) it said that the card is formated by msdos Fat, not exFAT  ???


Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: foorgol on July 06, 2013, 01:16:45 AM
Sorry for being slightly OT, but can anyone point me to a spec or description of the RAW files created by ML? Or do I have to reverse-engineer it from the raw2dng source code and its headers?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: rubirosa007 on July 06, 2013, 04:39:44 AM
Were can i get the lates build?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: khurra on July 06, 2013, 06:09:53 AM
having trouble with raw2dng.

have files larger than 2gb. Using raw2dng on iMac.

is there anyway to get the RAW files larger than 2gb to convert to dng?

thanks for your help sorry if this is a repost or redundant. I just searched through the forums for a few hours and couldn't find a fix.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: talosectos on July 06, 2013, 12:04:59 PM
Were can i get the lates build?

Read the first post.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on July 06, 2013, 12:22:35 PM
Added a 104 warning to the first post. I had been busy with exams and work :P
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Hip Hiker on July 07, 2013, 12:03:41 AM
Very excited to see ML is available for the 650D! Even if only in alpha. I have a question, apologies if it's been answered elsewhere already - I have searched around.

Does this version of ML include the auto-restart function that allows the camera to take longer movies? This is the only reason I need ML, but I heard a rumour a little while ago the future versions won't include this feature.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on July 07, 2013, 12:21:52 AM
Guys, can we use 650d's hdmi port to record better videos directly into the computer? Anyone working on this? Tried it?

I just read this: http://www.hireacamera.com/blog/index.asp?post=canon-eos-650d--hdmi-explained

And i think ML devs can do something about it. (i don't know if it is possible to record raw via hdmi already)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on July 07, 2013, 08:02:02 AM
Very excited to see ML is available for the 650D! Even if only in alpha. I have a question, apologies if it's been answered elsewhere already - I have searched around.

Does this version of ML include the auto-restart function that allows the camera to take longer movies? This is the only reason I need ML, but I heard a rumour a little while ago the future versions won't include this feature.

yes it does, I used it a few nights ago
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: phil_rouge on July 07, 2013, 03:00:14 PM
 :( I want to test this version but My Canon 650D is already on 1.04 ! Argh !
Can I flash it to return in old version ?
 :'(
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 07, 2013, 03:03:17 PM
As of today: Nope! You're stuck in limbo until ML is ported to 1.0.4.

Ciao, Walter



Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: neilp1 on July 07, 2013, 07:46:06 PM
Auto ETTR is in the exposure menu if that build has it. I believe it should.

Turns out its a module- i downloaded a build for the 60D, then copied the ettr.mo file to the modules folder on the sd card. It now comes up in the expo menu, and seems to be auto exposing, and creating the .uwr files. Have yet to test it in a situation where im getting gradual exposure changes (like sunset)... maybe next weekend.

All i need to do now if figure out the software processing side of things- the guide gets a little incomprehensible in the software section with the bin files directories etc.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5705.0

cheers
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Chuck J on July 07, 2013, 08:15:25 PM
The 650D has one less button compared to the 600D (I think)

I don't know anything about compiling code for the development of ML, but can a screen tap be considered a button or maybe a double tap?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: foorgol on July 07, 2013, 08:40:10 PM
Turns out its a module- i downloaded a build for the 60D, then copied the ettr.mo file to the modules folder on the sd card. It now comes up in the expo menu, and seems to be auto exposing, and creating the .uwr files.

Wait, let me get that straight:
You're using a module built for the 60D and it works on the 650D? Without doing anything harmful or at least make ML on the 650D crash or hang?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: itsalan on July 07, 2013, 09:19:40 PM
How do you uninstall ML, do you just format the sd card?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 07, 2013, 09:30:32 PM
http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/faq#how_do_i_uninstall_it
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: neilp1 on July 07, 2013, 09:38:33 PM
Wait, let me get that straight:
You're using a module built for the 60D and it works on the 650D? Without doing anything harmful or at least make ML on the 650D crash or hang?

Yeah, it seems to, although I haven't run a proper timelapse sequence or processed the files yet (the software part is confusing me) but it appears to be adjusting exposures and creating the uwr files. No hangs or crashes yet.

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: itsalan on July 07, 2013, 11:17:37 PM
http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/faq#how_do_i_uninstall_it

It says to simply format the card on that link.  I did, and now the camera says update file cannot be found. 
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on July 08, 2013, 08:24:49 AM
It says to simply format the card on that link.  I did, and now the camera says update file cannot be found.

Run EOScard.exe. Uncheck ML, CHDKraw, eos_develop, bootdisk then click save. Search the forums to find the exe.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: orly on July 09, 2013, 03:43:44 AM
What can we do, if already upgraded with the 1.0.4 firmware.   Will we have a ML for that firmware...  Thank you   
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: moosefuel on July 09, 2013, 04:50:37 AM
I just want to say THANK YOU to nanomad and anyone who worked on this port. I shoot wedding videos and events for a living, and my T4i usually sits in my bag as my backup cam. The other day my A-cam got rained on and stopped working, and it was such a relief to have even the alpha of Magic Lantern on my T4i so I could use zebras, focus peaking and custom ISOs.

There were only a few glitches, such as when I flick the switch from video-mode directly to "off" I would sometimes get an error and the camera would freeze. However this is pretty darn stable for alpha software, and it stood up great for almost a whole day of filming.

I've been following the thread and thought I should just pop on and say good work and thanks for saving the day.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: talosectos on July 09, 2013, 08:34:31 AM
What can we do, if already upgraded with the 1.0.4 firmware.   Will we have a ML for that firmware...  Thank you   

There is no way to downgrade to 1.0.1. So you just have to be patient.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: phil_rouge on July 09, 2013, 09:25:53 AM
 :-[ I'm so sad to be in 1.0.4 ... Thank's for all trying make ML run in this version !
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: baga on July 09, 2013, 06:46:11 PM
I was having some issues and the only way to correct it was to upgrade to 1.0.4, now I'm waiting too.
I know in time ML will work on 1.0.4 so I'll patiently wait.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: phil_rouge on July 09, 2013, 09:41:48 PM
I've send a email to Canon to know if I can downgrade to 1.0.2 I'm waiting their answer !
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on July 10, 2013, 08:38:52 AM
I've send a email to Canon to know if I can downgrade to 1.0.2 I'm waiting their answer !

The answer to that question is no they do not have a downgrade even if you sent it into the factory, they can not downgrade from 1.04
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: moparfan90 on July 11, 2013, 03:34:37 AM
hello everyone.

i have been trying to use the timelapse in ML. i did a couple short test runs and it works. when i do the real one. for 2 hours, stop the time-lapse. shut off camera and remove sd it wont read on my mac. after i get the error nothing will read the card including the camera and other windows computers.

all im asking is, could this be an issue with the software or just my card on the way out. i did the same setup the next day with the card reformatted and it happened again.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: derwent on July 11, 2013, 08:04:26 AM
How long does it normally take to install the ML firmware? I followed the instructions perfectly but My camera has been sitting on "Firmware update program" for a really long time now ~20 mins
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 11, 2013, 08:37:24 AM
Remove battery at once!
NOW!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: derwent on July 11, 2013, 09:31:01 AM
Remove battery at once!
NOW!
What did I do wrong?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 11, 2013, 09:48:38 AM
I don't know what went wrong during installation. Go back to first page of this thread, read instructions again and follow them.

Loading ML will take a few seconds, not minutes and not at all 20 of them. If your camera locks for more than a few seconds I (and others) strongly suggest to remove the battery. No, it won't get better over time but worse.

Ciao, Walter

PS: More information, please.
- SD card capacity?
- Build number and/or date?

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: derwent on July 11, 2013, 10:00:25 AM
I don't know what went wrong during installation. Go back to first page of this thread, read instructions again and follow them.

Loading ML will take a few seconds, not minutes and not at all 20 of them. If your camera locks for more than a few seconds I (and others) strongly suggest to remove the battery. No, it won't get better over time but worse.

Ciao, Walter

PS: More information, please.
- SD card capacity?
- Build number and/or date?

OK, I'll give it another try.
Canon EOS 650D, firmware 1.01
SanDisk Ultra 16GB card
ML_N_10.07.2013
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: derwent on July 11, 2013, 10:27:12 AM
OK, I'll give it another try.
Canon EOS 650D, firmware 1.01
SanDisk Ultra 16GB card
ML_N_10.07.2013
Ok, I think I've got it working :P
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: k0brd on July 11, 2013, 06:39:08 PM
The answer to that question is no they do not have a downgrade even if you sent it into the factory, they can not downgrade from 1.04

I sent my camera to factory repair and it came back with 1.0.4 on it.  I just got off the phone with tech support and they will not downgrade it for what ever reason.  If some knows how to dump the version 1.0.1 from a camera I have a friend with one we can use.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on July 12, 2013, 01:03:06 PM
del
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: tve on July 12, 2013, 01:16:57 PM
tell me is there any information about when will the ML for 1,0,4
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on July 12, 2013, 01:22:27 PM
А без грипа ML работает?
Какой грип конкретно?
Какой билд?
В принципе проблем быть не должно.
Which grip? Which build Version? Please more info.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on July 12, 2013, 01:47:14 PM
You know I've been wondering on changelog on satriani page you can also see changes and fixes for other cameras too. eg 7D 600D and so on. I was under the impression that this was a port only for 650D right? Can you actually install the same build on a 7D for example?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on July 12, 2013, 08:53:10 PM
А без грипа ML работает?
Какой грип конкретно?
Какой билд?
В принципе проблем быть не должно.
Which grip? Which build Version? Please more info.
я уже решил проблему, оказывается флешка с мл была от 500д, короче все работает как надо. спасибо.
I have already solved the problem with the flash drive is from 500D ml was, in short everything is working as it should. Thank you.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on July 12, 2013, 09:38:41 PM
You know I've been wondering on changelog on satriani page you can also see changes and fixes for other cameras too. eg 7D 600D and so on. I was under the impression that this was a port only for 650D right? Can you actually install the same build on a 7D for example?

This changelog is from nightly builds of ML. For 650D users relevant changes are "650D" and "undefined"
And, no you cannot use this build for 7D, this is for 650D only.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 33black on July 14, 2013, 06:23:24 AM
I disappear for a month, come back, and it appears all is well!

Great work to everyone involved!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on July 14, 2013, 07:14:16 PM
And we have video crop mode! (just pushed it)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on July 14, 2013, 07:21:05 PM
Nice nanomad, as soon as it is in the build i Will test it asap.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: OpenMind on July 14, 2013, 11:04:50 PM
I'm still mad at myself for doing the upgrade to 1.0.4
Nanomad, please help me to feel happy again  ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: tve on July 15, 2013, 10:05:07 AM
I also foolishly updated to 1,0,4 is now looking forward to ML 1,0,4
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on July 15, 2013, 12:54:18 PM
And we have video crop mode! (just pushed it)
это просто замечательно, я так долго этого ждал, супер, еще бы аудиометр и порт для прошивки 1,0,4 и больше нечего желать)) больше спасибо!!!
it's just wonderful, I've been waiting for this, super, still audiometer and a port for firmware 1,0,4 and nothing more to wish for))  Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: azamatik123 on July 15, 2013, 01:54:10 PM
Очень ждем аудиометр!
It is waiting for audiometer!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: tve on July 15, 2013, 02:00:31 PM
и поддержку 1.0.4
and support for 1.0.4
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Ftlz on July 15, 2013, 02:38:07 PM
I've read in stable version user manual that you can use proximity sensor (IR sensor above viewfinder) as a shutter trigger. Is there a plan to activate this function on upcoming alpha versions for 650d?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Landon on July 15, 2013, 03:06:25 PM
I also foolishly updated to 1,0,4 is now looking forward to ML 1,0,4

I feel your pain!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mtb on July 15, 2013, 03:34:49 PM
ETTR not on the Exposure menu anymore. Using today's (15/07/13) build.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Orada on July 15, 2013, 05:00:31 PM
Dears, i just found out this issue about the 1.0.4 update and i did it  :( any thing we can do to activate the ML on the 1.0.4 firmware ?!
Thanks for your support guys

Greetings from EGYPT
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on July 15, 2013, 05:41:44 PM
Question to all the guys who runing 1.0.4 firmware wit a STM lens :)
How is a difference to old 1.0.1 firmware? I'm especially interested in the autofocus. Is it now much better/faster?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: brewerrj on July 15, 2013, 08:05:11 PM
Question to all the guys who runing 1.0.4 firmware wit a STM lens :)
How is a difference to old 1.0.1 firmware? I'm especially interested in the autofocus. Is it now much better/faster?

That is also something I'm interested in. My STM lens is in repair right now, hopefully there is something wrong with the lens, otherwise I would have to send in my 650D for repair.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lordgnagey on July 15, 2013, 08:12:38 PM
Is there any work being done to alter GOP size or create ALL-I frames in h264?

It seems like raw is no longer a viable option because of the sensor, but high bitrate ALL-I could give us a serious boost in quality.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: sedwards on July 15, 2013, 08:29:05 PM
I am willing to do before and after tests with my t4i. I can uninstall ML , test it with current firmware then upgrade to 104. Im a little new to this though so you would need to tell me what you need as a test lol
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: brewerrj on July 15, 2013, 09:37:37 PM
I am willing to do before and after tests with my t4i. I can uninstall ML , test it with current firmware then upgrade to 104. Im a little new to this though so you would need to tell me what you need as a test lol

You know ML is not yet available on 104, there is no release date for it and there is no way to downgrade to 101. So if you want to use ML in the near future I would not recommend upgrading to 104.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: sedwards on July 15, 2013, 10:54:05 PM
i am aware there is no way to downgrade but i dont realy use any features of ML yet , i still havent figured it out lol. i can wait for a future release if it will help others.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: saulbass on July 16, 2013, 12:07:05 AM
Not sure if focus peaking and zebras were working in previous satriani ML builds - but they are now. (15.07.2013)

Feels like the 650D port is coming together nicely.

Be great to get a less flickery magic zoom - it sort of worries me :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: OpenMind on July 16, 2013, 02:17:28 AM
Question to all the guys who runing 1.0.4 firmware wit a STM lens :)
How is a difference to old 1.0.1 firmware? I'm especially interested in the autofocus. Is it now much better/faster?
I'm sorry, but I got both STM lenses this month, after updating to 1.0.4, so I don't know how it was before. But they are silent and fast... and a little slow in Live View mode, just like the USM lenses.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: xanta on July 16, 2013, 04:42:19 AM
wait....i got an idea but seems not that good.....

maybe we can fake a Version No. like 1.0.5 to cover 1.0.1(if someone has it..)
make the camera believe it is the next firmware so you can 'upgrade' it .....

ahahaha just kidding........
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 16, 2013, 08:06:56 AM
It is impossible to downgrade because there is no file containing v1.0.1 available.
In prinicple downgrad process is possible using EOS utility. But you have to have the file.

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Ftlz on July 16, 2013, 01:55:21 PM
I asked a few days ago but no one answered me:
I've read in stable version user manual that you can use proximity sensor (IR sensor above viewfinder) as a shutter trigger. Is there a plan to activate this function on upcoming alpha versions for 650d?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: hobarey on July 16, 2013, 01:59:13 PM
I still have older version of 650d firmware and I haven't installed ML yet. So is there any chance to rip the firmware and upload it to the forum? If the answer is yes, I'm ready to help you guys.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on July 16, 2013, 02:12:01 PM
I still have older version of 650d firmware and I haven't installed ML yet. So is there any chance to rip the firmware and upload it to the forum? If the answer is yes, I'm ready to help you guys.

it's up already. >>>page number: 1
edit: my bad, i thought you re asking for ML to download.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on July 16, 2013, 02:39:04 PM
I still have older version of 650d firmware and I haven't installed ML yet. So is there any chance to rip the firmware and upload it to the forum? If the answer is yes, I'm ready to help you guys.

I've thoroughly searched the web for a download of 1.0.1 or is there a way to copy from the camera and the answer is no. People have asked Canon for 1.0.1 and they won't give it to anyone for any reason.  So the bottom line (for anyone considering upgrading the firmware) is don't upgrade unless you want to wait until ML works with 1.0.4 which could be awhile  :'(
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: hobarey on July 16, 2013, 03:08:16 PM
I've thoroughly searched the web for a download of 1.0.1 or is there a way to copy from the camera and the answer is no. People have asked Canon for 1.0.1 and they won't give it to anyone for any reason.  So the bottom line (for anyone considering upgrading the firmware) is don't upgrade unless you want to wait until ML works with 1.0.4 which could be awhile  :'(
midnite can you link that part (about the firmware downgrading) on page 1?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: AgentJJ on July 16, 2013, 03:53:38 PM
And besides, even if we did rip the firmware we cannot legally post it here or distribute it.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on July 16, 2013, 08:02:13 PM
Hi,

I've installed ML on my 650d this morning, everything (almost) work fine, thanks to the developers !
Sorry if I repeat things, but I haven't read the 20 pages of this post  :-[

The way the bootdisk flag work on the camera is interesting : if the SD Card in the camera is not bootable, the original Canon firmware is launched. So for enable/disable ML on a SD Card you just have to change its bootflag, no need to touch on the camera. (I say this for people who did'nt notice this feature... At least it work as it on my camera).

3 little questions :
- I am probably missing something, but where is the "play" button on the camera ? (used to re-call a focus point for example).
- I plan to buy 32gb class 10 SDHC (Lexar 400x) ... No problem with ML ?
- Does any sdk isset for control the camera with PC through magic lantern ? (I'm developing a scriptable application with canon SDK, mainly for assign wireless controller buttons like Xbox360 Controller to camera functions, but Canon don't allows you for exemple - if i'm not mistaken - to access in live to focal and focus ring position).

Bug I've noticed : focus picking doesn't work while HDMI display is used.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: saulbass on July 17, 2013, 12:06:14 AM
Bug:

Focus peaking on liveview in movie mode - very slow screen refresh rate - which also appears in video recordings (non raw).
Magic zoom works fine in movie mode.

satriani 15/7/2013 build - 650D
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lynx on July 17, 2013, 01:23:37 AM
Just wanted to say thanks to all the developers! I have been using the latest build of ML on my 650d for many jobs: weddings, interviews, and other. I have had no problems, and only great results. But sometimes I use my 600d instead mainly because of the audio features. I am looking forward to the future features for the 650d. You guys serious rock!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: rubirosa007 on July 17, 2013, 04:56:53 AM
were can i download the latest test build?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: elmatambre on July 17, 2013, 05:22:31 AM
were can i download the latest test build?
in this post the page 1 the link to dropbox... in this link click and you can see the last test builds
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6320.0
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hxsv61cq992egmy/BtTgp4q6i0

I am reading twice a week the last post of canon 650D. Hope that helps. rubirosa007
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ericlee1989 on July 17, 2013, 05:54:39 AM
oh man, i'm so stupid and upgrade to the 1.04 firmware...can anybody teach me how to reset the firmware? that will be great help, many thanks here :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ericlee1989 on July 17, 2013, 05:56:07 AM
oh man, i'm so stupid and upgrade to the 1.04 firmware...can anybody teach me how to reset the firmware? that will be great help, many thanks here (T.T)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 17, 2013, 07:10:04 AM
.can anybody teach me how to reset the firmware?

No, there is no known way. No kidding but you have to wait for ML running on 1.0.4. and please don't ask for a release date or you will be redirected to FAQ -> Troll questions.

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: djtwinz on July 17, 2013, 08:48:02 AM
I'm about to Upgrade to new Firmware & then I saw That ML can't run on it..

I just wanna say thank to all DEV's & Testers..
Keep up the good work.
Thank again
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on July 17, 2013, 09:57:28 AM
скажите, dual_iso может быть на наших камерах? или это только для марк3 ?
say, dual_iso be on our cameras? or is it just for mark3?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 17, 2013, 10:19:42 AM
say, dual_iso be on our cameras? or is it just for mark3?

No. No, for 7D too.

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on July 17, 2013, 11:29:30 AM
No. No, for 7D too.

Ciao, Walter
для других камер это возможно? для 650д например ?
For other cameras, it is possible? 650d for example?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 17, 2013, 11:32:30 AM
для других камер это возможно? для 650д например ?
For other cameras, it is possible? 650d for example?

Please explain which part of "No. No" you didn't understand and why.
It's plain нет.


Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Kike on July 17, 2013, 03:32:13 PM
Hi

I have a "SanDisk 16GB Extreme HD" that records at 45MB/s and I have a few problems recording raw at higher resolutions.
Will it make a diference if I use a "SanDisk Extreme Pro SDHC 95MB/s" or the camera can write ate such speeds ?

I've heard the 650D has some limitations and would't use the 95MB/s

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on July 17, 2013, 04:08:09 PM
Hi

I have a "SanDisk 16GB Extreme HD" that records at 45MB/s and I have a few problems recording raw at higher resolutions.
Will it make a diference if I use a "SanDisk Extreme Pro SDHC 95MB/s" or the camera can write ate such speeds ?

I've heard the 650D has some limitations and would't use the 95MB/s

Thanks
Benchmarks have only shown maybe a 1MB/s advantage using the 95MB/s card over the 45MB/s. This is not very significant. 720p24 is about the max at this point for the 650D if you want continuous recording.  The real limit is not the SD card, but the controller in the camera.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: phil_rouge on July 17, 2013, 10:44:36 PM
The answer to that question is no they do not have a downgrade even if you sent it into the factory, they can not downgrade from 1.04

yes they answer me no downgrade  :(
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: rubirosa007 on July 18, 2013, 12:44:27 AM
i keep getting making card bootable fail on my mac, any ideas?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: cwmane on July 18, 2013, 07:14:29 AM
Hello,  I can't find the video crop mode.  Can you please tell me how to access it and use it?  Thank you :P
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Dogfish on July 18, 2013, 08:08:48 AM
It's in the Magic Lantern movie menu.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: _DK_ on July 18, 2013, 01:16:57 PM
I found a bug on the newest build (18.07).

It occurs when using RAW Video:
As soon as I connect a monitor via HDMI the picture starts getting a big bar of red dots. It looks like focus peaking but has nothing to do with focus. (this also happens in normal live view with a monitor)
Also the Framing does not work at all when using a monitor. The indicator that shows where it films, is moved to the far left, and even if you change it back to normal using the digital dolly mode it does not go back to normal. It records a totally different area than the one that is showed on screen. No matter where you move the frame. (The recorded area is always in the middle, but moved a little bit to the right)

It works just fine without a monitor though.

If you need any more information just ask. (and maybe explain how I can get you these information as I am quiet new to ML  ;) )
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Aborgh on July 18, 2013, 02:17:16 PM
I looooove that you can film in crop mode! The red/pink dots disappear :D
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: landwomble on July 18, 2013, 02:22:58 PM
About to take the plunge. I use a 64GB card in mine though which I hear isn't compatible with initial install.  Got a spare 16GB one here but I'm unclear what I need to do to install using one, and then continue using the other in the camera.  Anyone able to guide me?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 18, 2013, 02:58:15 PM
Because ML is loaded by Canon's OS as a task (roughly like an application runs on your PC (at startup from the card) you have to manipulate each card like the first one if you want to run ML.
Try to run ML from a clean card.
Installation instruction will be found on page one of this thread.

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Yeti183 on July 18, 2013, 03:17:11 PM
 ->landwomble

Just follow the instructions on the first page here as for the Initial Installation with your 16GB Card and for the other Card the instructions on the ML Homepage under documentation->Installation (quoted bellow)

"Installing Magic Lantern on other cards

 If you use SDXC cards, or if you prefer to skip the firmware update step and prepare all your cards from the PC, you may copy ML files on your card and make it bootable with a special utility: EOScard for Windows, MacBoot for Mac, or make_bootable.sh for Mac/Linux in command line."

So - prepare the second Card with the Utility mentioned above (Setting bootflag etc: " check EOS_Develop and BOOTDISK"), copy the ML Folder, the autexec.bin and the 650D-safe-dumper.fir file to the root of the Card.
That's how I did it and how I update the nightly builds - just replacing the old files with the one from the new builds. No Need for the Firmware update every time - you just have to do this once at the very first time.

Best, Robert
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: landwomble on July 18, 2013, 04:49:58 PM
brilliant, thanks. Working.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on July 18, 2013, 04:57:48 PM
I looooove that you can film in crop mode! The red/pink dots disappear :D
RAW or h264?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: landwomble on July 18, 2013, 05:29:24 PM
OK, how do you turn on focus peaking?  It's enabled in the menu, but I don't see it in LiveView?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Dogfish on July 18, 2013, 05:44:43 PM
Focus peaking still working for me.  However, the histogram is no longer displaying warning dots.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mdfaisal on July 18, 2013, 06:55:21 PM
I looooove that you can film in crop mode! The red/pink dots disappear :D

is it ?
I still have a dead pixel in my Raw file using crop mode
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 30dbs on July 19, 2013, 12:03:37 AM
I've Just had a quick play with crop video mode.

very nice indeed, I have a single hot pixel whenever using it though, is this a known issue? its certainly a tiny problem.

Anyway I've knocked up a quick video, can the more knowledgeable among us tell me if my theory/numbers are correct or if I'm talking nonsense  :) apologies for the poor quality and subject matter, it was getting dark at home but I still really wanted to test it.

thanks

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on July 19, 2013, 12:59:02 PM
кроп моде для других аппаратов будет доступен, для 6д например?
crop mode for other devices will be available, for example 6d?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lynx on July 20, 2013, 12:54:42 AM
Movie crop mode is great! Now the only thing keeping me from using my 650d over my 600d is audio features.

I made a short clip comparing movie crop mode to optical zoom. I think it is interesting to note that Movie Crop Mode is more light sensitive, I think by a whole step. It is so much so that I could use the exact same setting when changing from normal to movie crop mode because it was over exposed. Also, I find movie crop mode to be softer, and the colors not as rich. These were the same findings I had with the 600d in movie crop mode. It is still a very usefully, and fun feature to have though. Thank you developers!

Comparing optical zoom to Movie Crop Mode:

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on July 20, 2013, 12:16:12 PM
кроп моде для других аппаратов будет доступен, для 6д например?
crop mode for other devices will be available, for example 6d?

Not at this point, the feature was simply disabled by canon on the 650D (and I suppose 700D/100D). It's not there on the 6D I think
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: tve on July 20, 2013, 12:56:32 PM
Уважаемые разработчики подскажите пожалуйста когда ML будет будет работать с 1.0.4 на 650D
Dear developers please tell me when the ML will work with 1.0.4 on the 650D
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: RafaLibrenz on July 20, 2013, 03:42:55 PM
I was a happy person with Magic Lantern on my 650D.  :)

I had a problem with the sensor of my 650D, and I sent the camera to Canon. Now (two months later) my camera came back, without the problem, but with the new firmware (1.0.4). Now I am a sad person (without Magic Lantern).

 :(
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on July 20, 2013, 04:01:31 PM
возможно сделать кроп мод:
1, установить функцию на горячую кнопку?
2, работал в режиме записи видео?
3, при активации  кроп мод на экране отображались фокусные расстояния эквивалентные ему, то есть умноженные в 3 раза ?

 possible to make a crop modes:
1, set the function of the hot button?
2, worked in the movie mode?
3, with the activation of the crop mode, the screen displays the focal lengths equivalent to it, that is multiplied by 3 times?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mr ed on July 21, 2013, 10:33:47 AM
i keep getting making card bootable fail on my mac, any ideas?

It may be your operating system. Did you see this note on the card formatting instructions?

'Currently MacBoot works under all versions of OSX from Panther (10.3) to Lion (10.7). It also requires version 1.4 or later of the Java Runtime.
Note for Mountain Lion (10.8) Users. Mountain Lion requires root access to make changes to cards. As a result, MacBoot will fail with a "permission refused" message unless it has root access. To run MacBoot under Mountain Lion, download this zip file, put it in the same folder as Macboot and unzip it. You'll get a macboot.command script. Double-clicking the script will bring up a terminal window and sudo will ask you to type your logon password so MacBoot can get root access. MacBoot will run when you press return.'
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Aborgh on July 21, 2013, 05:14:23 PM
RAW or h264?

RAW, haven't tried h264
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Yoshiboshi3 on July 22, 2013, 07:57:06 PM
Hello all!

I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing something. As of right now, there is no build of ML for 650D that displays audio meters?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on July 22, 2013, 09:56:57 PM
Right.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: photokid on July 23, 2013, 12:25:38 AM
I made a video for step by step instructions on how to install magic lantern
on the 650D for anyone who is unsure what to do
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Yoshiboshi3 on July 23, 2013, 12:54:33 AM
Well, that's unfortunate. I have another question.

For recording RAW video, what picture settings/styles should I be using? Does it even matter? Say I'm trying to get the highest dynamic range out of a shot.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on July 23, 2013, 01:27:41 AM
It's Raw so it does not matter.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Yoshiboshi3 on July 23, 2013, 01:52:42 AM
It's Raw so it does not matter.

So RAW recorded on auto can lead to the same end product as RAW recorded on Cinestyle? Sorry for the probably nooby questions, but I'm pretty new to all of this.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: zaisehay on July 23, 2013, 08:00:14 AM
So my camera got bricked while trying to install ML the first time. When I sent it in to Canon they fixed the problem, but the suck part is they upgraded my firmware to 1.0.4  :'(

I doubt there is any way to install 1.0.0 after 1.0.4 is activated. Is there? If there is please let me know I would be forever in your debt.

Sincerely,
Zaisehay
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: zaisehay on July 23, 2013, 08:23:43 AM
So my camera got bricked while trying to install ML the first time. When I sent it in to Canon they fixed the problem, but the suck part is they upgraded my firmware to 1.0.4  :'(

I doubt there is any way to install 1.0.0 after 1.0.4 is activated. Is there? If there is please let me know I would be forever in your debt.

Sincerely,
Zaisehay

Nevermind I read through the thread. Doesn't make it suck less.   :(
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: roterrion on July 23, 2013, 09:52:40 AM
So RAW recorded on auto can lead to the same end product as RAW recorded on Cinestyle? Sorry for the probably nooby questions, but I'm pretty new to all of this.
First of all, Picture Style doesn't increase your dynamic range.
Second, RAW is recorded before picture style is added, therefore, you can still change the picture style on photoshop/your editing software.

correct me if I'm wrong. ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on July 23, 2013, 12:17:59 PM
Hi,

For people interesting in a 32gb card, i've receive my Sandisk Extreme 32gb 45mb/s class 10 purchased on amazon France for 32€.

I immediately benchmark it on ML, and results are very good !

Read and write speed around 40MB/s (seems to be the maximum speed for the 650d)

Max write speed : 41.3 MB/s (16384k buffer)
Max read speed  : 43.5 MB/s (16384k buffer)

That's a good constructor : announce 45MB/s, and almost made it !
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on July 23, 2013, 03:00:32 PM
I'm working on the 1.0.4 port, more news in a couple of days :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: gumerson on July 23, 2013, 03:06:39 PM
I'm working on the 1.0.4 port, more news in a couple of days :)


Just great man!

Keeping on 1.0.1 right now and happy about it!

Thanks a lot
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on July 23, 2013, 03:46:09 PM
I'm working on the 1.0.4 port, more news in a couple of days :)
это очень хорошо, спасибо вам большое, скажите а возможно ли в 650д добавить Time code как например в 6д ?
 it's very good, thank you very much, is it possible to tella 650d add Time code such as in 6d?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Daniboy111 on July 23, 2013, 04:21:25 PM
I'm working on the 1.0.4 port, more news in a couple of days :)

YOU SIR, Are my hero.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: OpenMind on July 23, 2013, 04:33:31 PM
I'm working on the 1.0.4 port, more news in a couple of days :)
*Gives a big hug!*
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: tve on July 23, 2013, 05:37:49 PM
I'm working on the 1.0.4 port, more news in a couple of days :)

Thank you very much look forward !!!!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: baga on July 23, 2013, 08:31:29 PM
I was a happy person with Magic Lantern on my 650D.  :)

 :(

I had an issue too that upgrading the firmware seemed to be the only fix. I had been using ML since March and I'm missing it big time.  In time someone will have it worked out.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: baga on July 23, 2013, 08:35:36 PM
I'm working on the 1.0.4 port, more news in a couple of days :)

Thank you!!!!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: RafaLibrenz on July 23, 2013, 08:49:00 PM
I'm working on the 1.0.4 port [...]
(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.memegenerator.net%2Finstances%2F250x250%2F37368474.jpg&hash=3221f25392c842130ed1735edefec60c)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mdfaisal on July 23, 2013, 09:01:07 PM
Hi... i just want to share...
i have made this video (my friend teaser wedding video) using 650d and our plastic lens kit, + ml using cbr video 1, 5 (sorry no raw video),  glidecam,  after effect,  premiere pro,  and davinci resolve


Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: baga on July 23, 2013, 11:19:30 PM
Hi... i just want to share...
i have made this video (my friend teaser wedding video) using 650d and our plastic lens kit, + ml using cbr video 1, 5 (sorry no raw video),  glidecam,  after effect,  premiere pro,  and davinci resolve



Nice Job
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on July 23, 2013, 11:42:48 PM
I'm working on the 1.0.4 port, more news in a couple of days :)

It really is about time, the guys go crazy without ML :P
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: TrOm@ on July 24, 2013, 09:12:57 AM
It really is about time, the guys go crazy without ML :P

I even talk about it, i having ML on 550D and I'm crazy to see that not ready to be able to use it on my 700d/T5i  :'(
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: djxltecno on July 24, 2013, 11:41:26 AM
I'm working on the 1.0.4 port, more news in a couple of days :)

Massive!!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mattaz on July 25, 2013, 02:10:38 AM
I'm working on the 1.0.4 port, more news in a couple of days :)

I created a ML forum account just to say : awesome.

Just bought my first camera (650D) and upgraded the firmware before turning on my brain. ouch.

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mike1969 on July 25, 2013, 03:14:25 AM
I'm working on the 1.0.4 port [...]
pleaaaaase!
you are our savior
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Landon on July 25, 2013, 05:34:12 AM
I'm working on the 1.0.4 port, more news in a couple of days :)
Shedding tears of joy.   :')
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 30dbs on July 25, 2013, 11:59:50 AM
Thank you so much to all the devs, crop video mode is simply the best, what a simple and yet massive addition to the cameras abilities.

I managed to catch a cloudy full moon with it using just a 135mm lens. (remember to watch in HD)

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on July 25, 2013, 12:51:43 PM
уже есть первый шаги.!!!
already have the first steps.!!!

[spoiler]Today's changes:
----------------
 
728e571a1276 | condellog: 650D.104: Stubs founds, some consts checked. Waiting for boot
ac3f8247a551 | alex: dual_iso: slower update when other menus are active; fine-tuned for less cpu usage (less accurate)
1f71148896cc | alex: Reduced CPU usage for black level calculation (using less accuracy)
aaf364feeff1 | alex: dual_iso: fix auto ISO calculation
 
 platform/650D.104/mvr.h                     |  283 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 platform/650D.104/consts.h                  |  277 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 platform/650D.104/stubs.S                   |  242 +++++++++++++++++++++++
 platform/650D.104/internals.h, platform/650D.104/gui.h, platform/650D.104/features.h,
 modules/dual_iso/dual_iso.c, platform/650D.101/stubs.S, platform/650D.104/cfn.c, src/raw.c,
 platform/650D.104/Makefile, platform/650D.104/Makefile.platform.default,
 platform/650D.104/Makefile.setup.default, platform/650D.104/misc.c
 
 14 files changed, 1136 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lindor on July 25, 2013, 03:33:57 PM
Hello everyone, thanks for your work!!!
I have a problem with video crop. ( only with lens canon 18-135 mm and 100 2.8 macro... no problem with 28 1.8 and 50 1.4)
in low light conditions and with high iso ... there is a fixed dead pixels on the monitor for the entire shot.
below two example...
(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGY4QmDs.jpg%3F1&hash=4cd95c69b4d0a8424a5fbc3d34c11778)
(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKvBAITL.jpg%3F2&hash=798108aad195a2a13e1e3ef81477d8ec)

only with low brightness

in high light ...all ok
(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUpx4ghH.jpg%3F2&hash=cc86c150942362c0c9af9c7acd714ce0)



can you help?


thank you!!!

sorry for my english!!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on July 25, 2013, 04:33:43 PM
I played with fps override and changed fps and "optimized for"
After a long time playing with different settings the LV Picture freezed, but  osd and menu still worked.
So i turned the video mode off and on but now the LV gave me a black picture.

After putting the battery out the camera works normally.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: heitzer75 on July 25, 2013, 08:55:50 PM
I'm working on the 1.0.4 port, more news in a couple of days :)

I'm looking forward to the new ML-Version, because i bought a new 650D, and they have the FW 1.0.4.
Great job nanomad  ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on July 25, 2013, 09:46:55 PM
I think a new thread for people that upgraded their firmware is needed. I used to like seeing the posts here but i'm tired of every post being people whining about how they upgraded their firmware. That's their problem, they didn't read previous posts. boo hoo.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: heitzer75 on July 25, 2013, 10:01:10 PM
Hi newsense,

i don´t upgraded my firmware, i bought this model with this version.

Best regards
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on July 25, 2013, 10:44:36 PM
Hello everyone, thanks for your work!!!
I have a problem with video crop. ( only with lens canon 18-135 mm and 100 2.8 macro... no problem with 28 1.8 and 50 1.4)
in low light conditions and with high iso ... there is a fixed dead pixels on the monitor for the entire shot.
below two example...
(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGY4QmDs.jpg%3F1&hash=4cd95c69b4d0a8424a5fbc3d34c11778)
(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKvBAITL.jpg%3F2&hash=798108aad195a2a13e1e3ef81477d8ec)

only with low brightness

in high light ...all ok
(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUpx4ghH.jpg%3F2&hash=cc86c150942362c0c9af9c7acd714ce0)



can you help?


thank you!!!

sorry for my english!!

это нормально, на всех фотоаппарат такое можно заметить, при высоких исо будут видно битый пиксиль, если включить кроп мод то их видно еще лучше, в обычном режиме я их не замечаю.
 it is normal for all camera so you can see at high ISO will be seen broken piksil if you include crop modes that you can see them even better, as usual I did not notice.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on July 25, 2013, 11:03:25 PM
Edit: Ok I found that it is normal on DIGIC 5 cameras.

Are these vertical stripes normal while using fps override and HiJello?

One cropped frame of an RAW Video@ ISO 100 and 2fps not pushed in post

(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww7.pic-upload.de%2F25.07.13%2Fn6fivmpqidpm.jpg&hash=d860f797fcfcca03a5cc9bc3ee4648e0)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: cawahe on July 26, 2013, 07:02:06 AM
I'm working on the 1.0.4 port, more news in a couple of days :)
Thank you!! you are amazing. you gotta teach me how to program ML someday. It runs on C++ correct?
Title: Q: RAW video, fps and resolution?
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 26, 2013, 08:07:43 AM
I'm not able to connect the dots and would really appreciate some help ...

Resolution in RAW movie mode is limited to 1728 pixel horizontal with 650D. Right?
Why I'm not able to select a higher resolution after decreasing fps?

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Q: RAW video, fps and resolution?
Post by: demetrisag on July 26, 2013, 08:57:08 AM
I'm not able to connect the dots and would really appreciate some help ...

Resolution in RAW movie mode is limited to 1728 pixel horizontal with 650D. Right?
Why I'm not able to select a higher resolution after decreasing fps?

Ciao, Walter
I'm not exactly sure what you mean but I know there is a definitive limit to the resolution which comes from the live preview.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 26, 2013, 09:04:11 AM
<slapping forehead> Argh! Read about Liveview->RAW but forgot! Thanks!

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: baga on July 26, 2013, 03:47:10 PM
I think a new thread for people that upgraded their firmware is needed. I used to like seeing the posts here but i'm tired of every post being people whining about how they upgraded their firmware. That's their problem, they didn't read previous posts. boo hoo.

Easy, play nice.  Most of us didn't upgrade because we wanted to.  I wouldn't call it whining any more than when we all waited for the first pre alpha to come out months ago.  I for one was one of the 1st testers and after being forced to upgrade my firmware a few weeks ago I now feel like I've downgraded my camera and let the ML team down by having to upgrade my firmware.

Yes we all should read all post on the subject before posting.  What I see are people asking if it can and will be able to work with the new firmware soon.  If 50 people have the same issue but only one post about it what kind of priority does that make the issue?
Yes just posting "I have that same issue" would do.  Posting with more details is even better.
 
If we start a new thread every time someone thinks the topic has gone off track no one would ever be able to follow the progress and issues.  Without posting our issues in this thread about the new firmware how long would it be before it was worked on?  Squeaky wheel gets the grease. 

You are able to just skip the post you are tired of reading?
Hopefully if you have an issue no one says boo-hoo to you start a new thread.

Almost all recent post seem to be thanking Nanomad for working on a fix so fast.
 Again my thanks to Nanomad and the ML team.


Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: baga on July 26, 2013, 03:52:58 PM
Hello everyone, thanks for your work!!!
I have a problem with video crop. ( only with lens canon 18-135 mm and 100 2.8 macro... no problem with 28 1.8 and 50 1.4)
in low light conditions and with high iso ... there is a fixed dead pixels on the monitor for the entire shot.
below two example...
(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGY4QmDs.jpg%3F1&hash=4cd95c69b4d0a8424a5fbc3d34c11778)
(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKvBAITL.jpg%3F2&hash=798108aad195a2a13e1e3ef81477d8ec)

only with low brightness

in high light ...all ok
(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUpx4ghH.jpg%3F2&hash=cc86c150942362c0c9af9c7acd714ce0)



can you help?


thank you!!!

sorry for my english!!

How did you ever find that?  What caused you to even look for it?  I'm just curious.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on July 26, 2013, 11:44:36 PM
Hi all,

Whew, been through all pages.  Quick question.  Is there or is there not a problem with shooting raw pics in terms of aspect ratios.  It seemed someone had a problem with this.

Any help on this would be great.

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on July 27, 2013, 12:52:32 AM
There is no problem.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on July 27, 2013, 01:10:59 AM
Thank you so much.  Just got my t4i.  Firmware ok to go.

Ok been using ml on my t2i , now to give on to my son who has a rebel pre ml.  So after years never thought about updates untill exploring for the t4i.  Wow upgraded the t2i, sniff looks great, if we can get the t4i there wow 2. 

I have been involved in many situations with developers.  Different products but have learned that they are special and here too.

Thanks to them.
Dave

Ps me with ml from almost day one. What great minds.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on July 27, 2013, 02:16:57 AM
Pps. I got the t4i for various reasons.  Could have gotten the t5i, but following the discussions on this and me being a rebel so to speak I got thet4i.  We are talking real time and have not put it through its paces.  But I see  work is on for the t5i by our most overworked developer.  The t4i is history, so we must really support the efforts here.
Title: 64 gig card
Post by: davidtlong on July 27, 2013, 01:54:14 PM
Sorry for all of the posts in a row.  I see that some have had problems with the 64 gig card.  I was going to try this today.  Don't really see why it would not work.   Utube has an example and the only different right now for us is how the fir file is copied to the card.   Thoughts?

Dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Lemon on July 27, 2013, 04:15:17 PM
I'm working on the 1.0.4 port, more news in a couple of days :)

REJOICE! :D

That's some really great news, can't wait to hear what's going on!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Train on July 27, 2013, 11:04:38 PM
I installed ML right after this thread was started, and now I want to put it on a second SD card. I'm wondering how much difference there is in the latest build, compared to the one from early June.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mdfaisal on July 28, 2013, 05:11:50 AM
Sorry for all of the posts in a row.  I see that some have had problems with the 64 gig card.  I was going to try this today.  Don't really see why it would not work.   Utube has an example and the only different right now for us is how the fir file is copied to the card.   Thoughts?

Dave

I dont have a trouble with 64 gig card.  Ive formatted my card to exfat so i can record more than 4gb files.  Im using a slow card,  32mb read and 20mb write.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: X-STATE on July 28, 2013, 02:43:04 PM
Hello everyone!
Many thanks to developers!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: vgoncharov on July 28, 2013, 10:22:53 PM
hi all, I'm looking forward to the emergence of adaptive ML 1.0.4. All developers are well done, great ML ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: OpenMind on July 28, 2013, 11:53:09 PM
more news in a couple of days :)
It's been 5 days already!  >:(
I don't want to rush, but I only have valium left for a few days.


*Just a little tease to relax* :D
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 33black on July 29, 2013, 08:44:44 AM
Okay, so I just noticed this today when filming an audition for a friend of mine.  I did some research and I guess it's due to FPS override?

I went to record and it said "Audio disabled."  I also have the FPS override on.  Am I correct in saying that's why?

Why exactly is it like that anyway?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ItsWhiteHat on July 29, 2013, 02:55:05 PM
Can someone clarify something for me please. In the original post it says:

Quote
What's currently not working: Everything audio related plus a couple of features that require more button than what we have

Does this mean that I'll not be able to record audio through my Rode Videomic Pro, if I plug it into the camera microphone input, after I install MagicLantern. My first time using ML, just want to know this before installing.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: qmilloy on July 29, 2013, 04:42:01 PM
Does this mean that I'll not be able to record audio through my Rode Videomic Pro, if I plug it into the camera microphone input, after I install MagicLantern. My first time using ML, just want to know this before installing.

The Videomic Pro will work fine! One of the nice features of ML is the addition of audio meters.  This feature is currently not available on the 650D.  So audio related things not working does not mean you will lose audio recording capabilities, just that there are no added audio features available!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on July 29, 2013, 05:03:12 PM
Okay, so I just noticed this today when filming an audition for a friend of mine.  I did some research and I guess it's due to FPS override?

I went to record and it said "Audio disabled."  I also have the FPS override on.  Am I correct in saying that's why?

Why exactly is it like that anyway?

You are correct, FPS override means no audio. This is due to the way canon embeds the WAV track into the MOV container. One possibility (that's not working on the 650D right now) is to record a separate WAV track using ML when FPS override is enabled


BTW, the 104 hit a bit of a halt due to my workload.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mike1969 on July 29, 2013, 05:43:15 PM
You are correct, FPS override means no audio. This is due to the way canon embeds the WAV track into the MOV container. One possibility (that's not working on the 650D right now) is to record a separate WAV track using ML when FPS override is enabled


BTW, the 104 hit a bit of a halt due to my workload.
no please do not say that
i m on the edge of depression
you are still our hero ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ItsWhiteHat on July 29, 2013, 07:24:57 PM
The Videomic Pro will work fine! One of the nice features of ML is the addition of audio meters.  This feature is currently not available on the 650D.  So audio related things not working does not mean you will lose audio recording capabilities, just that there are no added audio features available!

Thanks for clearing that up. Time to install ML now. Luckily I did not upgrade my firmware :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Luarvic on July 30, 2013, 07:16:28 AM
Кто-нибудь пробовал запустить ВФ на русской прошивке?
Anyone tried to run  ML for Russian firmware v. 1.0.1?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 30, 2013, 07:32:25 AM
There is no russian firmware. You may choose among several languages in the menu for firmware 1.0.1.

Ciao, Walter

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 33black on July 30, 2013, 08:24:30 AM
You are correct, FPS override means no audio. This is due to the way canon embeds the WAV track into the MOV container. One possibility (that's not working on the 650D right now) is to record a separate WAV track using ML when FPS override is enabled


BTW, the 104 hit a bit of a halt due to my workload.

Cool.  Thanks for clearing this up!  Those bastards, Canon.  Recording a separate WAV sounds like a legit option.  Do you know why they embed it the way they do?  Or is it just one of those things that, that's how they do it because it's bootleg.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Luarvic on July 30, 2013, 09:43:07 AM
Thank you, Walter.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: C_you on July 30, 2013, 11:04:06 AM
Hello everyone!
So many thxs to developers! You are really great! :-*
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Spooke on July 31, 2013, 11:15:37 PM
Thanks for this port! Was very easy to install, using a 32GB PNY Performance SDHC card - yet to test the speed..

I just want to ask, can we shoot in RAW? or am I being blind?

Thanks!!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 01, 2013, 12:44:34 AM
I just want to ask, can we shoot in RAW? or am I being blind?

Quote from: Bob the Builder
Yes we can!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgQ2MOkAZTFHdFFIcFp1d0R5TzVPTVJXOEVyUndteGc#gid=5
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: squilliam on August 01, 2013, 07:08:48 AM
I'm working on the 1.0.4 port, more news in a couple of days :)

You beautiful person!
(I'm secretly hoping it is released in the next two days, as I'm doing a beach photo shoot this weekend).
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rythmtech on August 01, 2013, 01:50:17 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgQ2MOkAZTFHdFFIcFp1d0R5TzVPTVJXOEVyUndteGc#gid=5

Would be good to see a list of working /not working features for the 650D in this format.... anyone? :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: neilrobinson1988 on August 01, 2013, 03:26:12 PM
Hi guys new to the forum, I'm running ML on my 650d not sure if its alpha or pre alpha,  has a built date of 2013-04-30
Just wondering if the new version has custom bracketing available as I carnt seam to get my to work, I go into scripts and brack.c and all photos come out the same.
Regards Neil
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 01, 2013, 04:06:37 PM
Yes, latest builds have it included.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: neilrobinson1988 on August 01, 2013, 05:57:42 PM
Yes, latest builds have it included.

Cheers nanomad
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: loady on August 01, 2013, 06:32:27 PM
I created a ML forum account just to say : awesome.

Just bought my first camera (650D) and upgraded the firmware before turning on my brain. ouch.

exactly the same here. lol
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: MarlonSenanayake on August 01, 2013, 06:44:46 PM
any news about 1.0.4
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Spooke on August 01, 2013, 07:17:00 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgQ2MOkAZTFHdFFIcFp1d0R5TzVPTVJXOEVyUndteGc#gid=5

Great! How do you set it to record RAW? Is there a guide somewhere,

Thanks!!  ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Train on August 01, 2013, 07:22:09 PM
If I want to put the latest build on my SD card which already has the build from last June, what do I need to do?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on August 01, 2013, 08:24:57 PM
Great! How do you set it to record RAW? Is there a guide somewhere,

Thanks!!  ;)
Load the raw_rec module under the ML modules (M) menu.  raw_rec should then appear under the ML video menu.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 01, 2013, 09:26:29 PM
When my Camera is turned on and displays the aperture, exposuretime and so on and I cover the Sensor over the viewfinder the red led starts to blink each 5s. Why does it happen? After turning on the Camera you have to wait about 45s before you start to cover the sensor.
I am still running the build from 26.06

I made a video of it http://db.tt/IbZ4mLnV
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Spooke on August 01, 2013, 09:40:31 PM
If I want to put the latest build on my SD card which already has the build from last June, what do I need to do?

I believe you just replace all the ML files?

Load the raw_rec module under the ML modules (M) menu.  raw_rec should then appear under the ML video menu.

Thanks didn't realise it was in there  :P

Can anyone recommend me a fast but reasonably priced SD card :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mdfaisal on August 02, 2013, 01:01:41 AM

Can anyone recommend me a fast but reasonably priced SD card :)

Buy sandisk extreme 45mbs card. 
If you have more money buy sandisk extreme pro
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 02, 2013, 05:35:59 AM
Hi, I'm new to SLRs, use it only in video mode and could try for a short time magic lantern, by issue of SD I wanted to consult more than put a 90 mps not going to achieve more than da camera, no?

Pd: the google translation
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 02, 2013, 10:06:09 AM
If you have more money buy sandisk extreme pro
If you want to wast money buy extreme pro I think this match better.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 03, 2013, 12:44:01 AM
WARNING - THE CODE ON THE REPOSITORY HAS SWITCHED TO THE 1.0.4 FIRMWARE FOR THE 650D

Don't use any newer builds for now until I open a new thread

BTW, 104 is working as good as 101
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Lemon on August 03, 2013, 01:42:49 AM
WARNING - THE CODE ON THE REPOSITORY HAS SWITCHED TO THE 1.0.4 FIRMWARE FOR THE 650D

Don't use any newer builds for now until I open a new thread

BTW, 104 is working as good as 101

HALLELUJAH!!

My tears of joy are spilling over. :'D

WARNING - THE CODE ON THE REPOSITORY HAS SWITCHED TO THE 1.0.4 FIRMWARE FOR THE 650D

I don't really get what this means, but i'm guessing we wait for a new thread for fw 1.0.4? or...are the downloads on the first page good to go for 1.0.4?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: zaisehay on August 03, 2013, 02:01:38 AM
WARNING - THE CODE ON THE REPOSITORY HAS SWITCHED TO THE 1.0.4 FIRMWARE FOR THE 650D


So does this mean We wait for a new thread with a 1.0.4?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 03, 2013, 08:28:15 AM
Yes. Older builds are fine
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on August 03, 2013, 09:36:06 AM
пожалуйста дайте мл для 104 прошивк, у меня завтра съемка, я бы хотел использовать мл прошивку. буду благодарен.
 please give ml for 104 firmware, I shoot tomorrow, I'd like to use the firmware ml. I will be grateful.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mike1969 on August 03, 2013, 01:50:50 PM
many thx nanomad
please where are the links?
sorry if my question is stupid but i m not used yet to this forum :-[
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on August 03, 2013, 02:02:16 PM
Here is a new build for 1.0.4
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hxsv61cq992egmy/8yORNshRBf/ML_N_03.08.2013.zip

But, please read this
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6320.msg63587.msg#63587
befor using this build!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Toast on August 03, 2013, 02:41:01 PM
This is somewhat off-topic, but probably someone has the answer:

The firmware update can be completed by just copying the .fir to an sd-card and user the camera function "update firmware", right? Because the canon site to the update says it's available only for WIndows and Mac, do i need the EOS Tool for that?

Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 03, 2013, 02:47:16 PM
Remove the bootable flag from the card before updating to 104 and format the SD card or bad things will happen
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lordgnagey on August 03, 2013, 02:57:12 PM
Are there plans to implement GOP and Slice control? I've read that they are testing it on the 600d.

Has that been discussed as an option for the 650d?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mike1969 on August 03, 2013, 03:07:57 PM
thx every one for the help :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on August 03, 2013, 03:34:06 PM
Here is a new build for 1.0.4
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hxsv61cq992egmy/8yORNshRBf/ML_N_03.08.2013.zip

But, please read this
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6320.msg63587.msg#63587
befor using this build!
а чем прошивать 104, что бы мл 104 прошивка читала?
какой порядок действий?
1, нужно удалить загрузочный флаг через утилиту EOScard
2, отформатировать флешку.
3, прошить фотоаппарат на официальную 1,0,4.
4, что дальше?
and sew than 104, which would be 104 ml firmware read it?
 what course of action?
 1, you must remove the bootable flag through the utility EOScard
2, format the USB flash drive.
3, flash the camera to an authorized 1,0,4.
4, what's next?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: acme on August 03, 2013, 04:16:15 PM
I've been lurking here for ages waiting for this news.. Hooooray!  ;D

My question: On the first page of the thread w/instructions re: Low Level Format - That is IN CAMERA right? - Just want to make absolutely sure.

Many Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Orada on August 03, 2013, 04:20:58 PM
WARNING - THE CODE ON THE REPOSITORY HAS SWITCHED TO THE 1.0.4 FIRMWARE FOR THE 650D

Don't use any newer builds for now until I open a new thread

BTW, 104 is working as good as 101

Dears What that mean :D :D !!! are those links trusted ... i mean should i run ML from Nanomad first post or install from satriani

Here is a new build for 1.0.4
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hxsv61cq992egmy/8yORNshRBf/ML_N_03.08.2013.zip

But, please read this
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6320.msg63587.msg#63587
befor using this build!

I would like to thank you all guys for your support but still wondering which ML to use the old Nanomad ML or the new links by satriani !
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Lemon on August 03, 2013, 04:23:28 PM
Okay, sorry if I seem a bit confused here, but I think i'm misunderstanding some of the steps in the instructions which is giving me problems running ML. I've downloaded all the files needed...my steps followed in blue.



2. low level format your SD card. Done in-camera using the camera 'low level format card' option.

3.  Copy 650D-safe-dumper.fir on SD card. I took out my SD card and placed it into the card reader for this because the camera wouldn't allow me to transfer the file directly into the card (while it was in the camera) using the wire connection.

4. Copy the stuff from latest build on SD card (ML folder and autoexec.bin). Done

5. Start camera in M photo mode and run firmware update. It says I had to put a memory card in to do a firmware update? I don't know what to do with this step (take out the SD card from the reader and put it back into camera? If so, then do I put it back into the reader for step 6?) so I just left my card in the reader and skipped this step.

6. Run EOSCard, check EOS_Develop and BOOTDISK Checked both, hit 'save' at the top right to write the files in, status said, 'Write Successful'.

7. Put SD card in camera just press the trashcan button to run ML Done, but ML doesn't run.

@acme

I'm guessing that too. The official instructions on installing ML says "Format the card in the camera (low-level format)." and our 650D's have the option to tick "Low level format" when attempting to format our cards in-camera.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 03, 2013, 04:32:26 PM
Remove the bootable flag from the card before updating to 104 and format the SD card or bad things will happen

I can remove the bootflag with eoscard, right? Or I could use a card wich was never used with ML?

After updating to 104 the camera still boots ML so I just have to change the ML folder, .fir and autoexec.bin?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: acme on August 03, 2013, 04:36:52 PM
Okay, sorry if I seem a bit confused here, but I think i'm misunderstanding some of the steps in the instructions which is giving me problems running ML. I've downloaded all the files needed...my steps followed in blue.


@acme

I'm guessing that too. The official instructions on installing ML says "Format the card in the camera (low-level format)." and our 650D's have the option to tick "Low level format" when attempting to format our cards in-camera.


#5) The (step above) is why it isn't running. I believe You need to insert the card you copied the files to, and run the update, and leave that card in the camera to use to capture your media.

I think your right about the format.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Lemon on August 03, 2013, 04:41:50 PM

#5) The (step above) is why it isn't running. I believe You need to insert the card you copied the files to, and run the update, and leave that card in the camera to use to capture your media.

I think your right about the format.

I copied the files and ran the update (nothing ML related showed up doesn't run), but then for step 6 i'm not sure if I need to take out the card from the camera again, then place it back in the reader. Then for step 7 put it back into the camera?

Edit:

Just tried what I suggested above, didn't work either. :/
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Razi on August 03, 2013, 04:48:23 PM
There's a good video on how to install ML, it's for the T3i, but the steps should be pretty much the same.

The trouble I'm having seems to be the step with the .fir file and updating.
When I tell the camera to update, the screen just goes blank and I'm back at the main screen.
I couldn't find an .fir file in the 1.0.4 folder at Bitbucket, so I'm having to use the one from the 1.0.1 folder.  Perhaps that's the reason it's failing?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on August 03, 2013, 04:50:37 PM
если в фотоаппарате стоит прошивка 104, как установить загрузчик? в шапке темы он для 101.
 If the camera firmware is 104, how to install boot loader? in the cap threads it for 101.
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: adam.sullastres on August 03, 2013, 05:05:37 PM
Hi friends,

First apologies for my bad englis :S

I just installed ML on my 650D and the camera start well but with the screen overexposed making it impossible to adjust the exposure using the screen and leaving the "Zebras" totally useless.
If I boot without ML everything returns to normal ...
Is this normal In the 650D? I've forget to do something?
I do something wrong?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: acme on August 03, 2013, 05:11:33 PM
@razi

I haven't tried the install yet, but I did open the folder to compare the structure to my working v2.3 for my T3i and noticed no .fir as well - and I don't have a 1.01 build to use.

My guess is I need to wait for another build. Anyone else agree or am I wrong?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: adam.sullastres on August 03, 2013, 05:16:57 PM
Oh!  8)
Auto-reply!!
I had activated the "FPS override" when I turn off "FPS override" everything is back to normal :P
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: acme on August 03, 2013, 05:25:43 PM
Can someone point me to a link that tells me exactly what step to take using Macboot to remove the bootflag? I have the app, but not sure what selections I need to make. I am running 10.6.8

I should point out that this is a card that has never had any version of ML installed and when I run Macboot None of the selections are checked, and i don't see anything that says remove bootflag etc.

Sorry not a dev.  :-\

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on August 03, 2013, 05:56:42 PM
стояла прошивка 101, и мл так же был я сделал так:
1  убрал загрузочный флаг, форма
2 прошился на 104, формат
3 кинул на флешку ML_N_03.08.2013, сделал загрузочной флешку.
4 вставил ее в фотоаппарат, при включении моргает красная лампочка, пока не вытащишь батарею.
что я сделал не так?
 firmware was 101 ml and the same was I did so:
1 removed the boot flag, the form
 Sew the2 to 104, format
3 threw the stick ML_N_03.08.2013, made ​​a bootable flash drive.
4 inserted it into the camera when you turn on the red light blinks until you pull out the battery.
 what did I do wrong?
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mike1969 on August 03, 2013, 06:25:30 PM
it doesnt work :'(
please we need more explanations like a tutorial step by step for someone who never installed ml
thx
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kostasra on August 03, 2013, 06:26:05 PM
I've Just had a quick play with crop video mode.

very nice indeed, I have a single hot pixel whenever using it though, is this a known issue? its certainly a tiny problem.

Anyway I've knocked up a quick video, can the more knowledgeable among us tell me if my theory/numbers are correct or if I'm talking nonsense  :) apologies for the poor quality and subject matter, it was getting dark at home but I still really wanted to test it.

thanks


I can't find this....  ???
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 03, 2013, 06:36:14 PM
I said don't do anything until I start a new thread... But I guess people don't read... Do they? The installer is not ready yet...
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 03, 2013, 06:37:33 PM
DO NOT RUN THE OLD INSTALLER FIR. IT'S NOT ON THE REPO FOR A REASON
Title: Re: Canon 650D [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on August 03, 2013, 06:47:36 PM
The boys have finally lost patience :D
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.1 [Status: Alpha / OBSOLETE]
Post by: nanomad on August 03, 2013, 08:11:35 PM
New topic: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7473.0