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Title: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: mcnova20 on May 21, 2013, 11:58:25 PM
Nice READ/WRITE Info from the Lexar Support! Found on an Amazon Guy who post this: hope that helped...

Lexar Professional 1000x UDMA Compact Flash :
150MB/s minimum guaranteed read
16GB - 95MB/s minimum guaranteed write
32GB and above - 145MB/s minimum write
(when paired with a UDMA 7 enabled device)

Lexar Professional 800x UDMA Compact Flash:
120MB/s minimum guaranteed read
8GB-32GB 45MB/s minimum write
64GB - 128GB 75MB/s minimum write
(when paired with a UDMA 7 enabled device)

Lexar Professional 600x UDMA Compact Flash:
600x (90MB/s) guaranteed minimum sustained write speed
(when paired with a UDMA 6 enabled device)

Lexar Professional 400X UDMA Compact Flash:
400x (60MB/s) guaranteed minimum sustained Read speed. Write up to 45MB/s

Lexar Professional 300x, UDMA Compact Flash:
300x (45MB/s) guaranteed minimum sustained write speed

Lexar Professional 233x UDMA Compact Flash:
minimum sustained write speeds of (233x) 35MB per second when paired with a UDMA-enabled device

Lexar Professional 133x UDMA Compact Flash:
Some of the earlier versions of these cards also came with Write Acceleration (WA) but these are no longer provided.

Lexar Platinum II/Premium 200X Compact Flash :
200x
30MB/s

here the full report on german:
http://www.amazon.de/review/R1WPGHNNQPKH0O/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B008QA4ETY&channel=detail-glance&nodeID=340843031&store=computers

Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: aaphotog on May 22, 2013, 12:28:08 AM
so the 600x has a sustained speed of 90mb/s, while the 800x are MUCH slower?
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: mcnova20 on May 22, 2013, 06:26:49 PM
Quote from: aaphotog on May 22, 2013, 12:28:08 AM
so the 600x has a sustained speed of 90mb/s, while the 800x are MUCH slower?

seems so!
i got a lexar CF 16GB 800x
and raw rec on MKIII doesnt work like a thought... so i need a better card like the komputerbay 1000x 64gb
btw. if i want to use the cam without Magic Lantern and i put the SD Card with Magic lantern off the cam... The Camera asks: "update file cannot be found. please check the memory card and reload the camera battery"
What can i do to use the cam without Magic Lantern?

Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: aaphotog on May 22, 2013, 08:01:14 PM
Quote from: mcnova20 on May 22, 2013, 06:26:49 PM
seems so!
i got a lexar CF 16GB 800x
and raw rec on MKIII doesnt work like a thought... so i need a better card like the komputerbay 1000x 64gb
btw. if i want to use the cam without Magic Lantern and i put the SD Card with Magic lantern off the cam... The Camera asks: "update file cannot be found. please check the memory card and reload the camera battery"
What can i do to use the cam without Magic Lantern?
turn cam on with card in. Once ML boots, do a format of the card(in camera). That way you'll be able to boot with or without card(but no ML)
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: 5DanielMIII on May 23, 2013, 11:23:03 PM
I tried the Lexar 64gb 1000 x rated at "up to 150" read and "up to 145" write.

*CrystalDiskMark test gave 120 read and 103 write.
*In ML 1920 x 1080 Raw record it is at 82-83.
But when trying to do 1920 x 1280 I still only get 82-83..

Sugestions?
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: wedding91 on May 24, 2013, 08:14:38 PM
Quote from: 5DanielMIII on May 23, 2013, 11:23:03 PM
I tried the Lexar 64gb 1000 x rated at "up to 150" read and "up to 145" write.

*CrystalDiskMark test gave 120 read and 103 write.
*In ML 1920 x 1080 Raw record it is at 82-83.
But when trying to do 1920 x 1280 I still only get 82-83..

Sugestions?

I just bought a used Lexar 64GB 1000x UDMA 7 which arrived today and the test of the card shocked me...
I got hilarious 50 MB/s writing speed in RAW Recording and the buffer was full after 1 secs at a resoloution of 1920x1080 at 24p
(NO I didn't fail in selecting the right card...I selected the Lexar CF).

I am completly speechless and i hope anyone of you can tell me that i didn't waste my 250$ for this card and this is just a ML problem...
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: squig on May 25, 2013, 03:34:26 AM
Sounds like you bought either a fake or a dud.
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: beat_takashi on May 25, 2013, 06:31:58 AM
don't use the 22nd may build, use the 20th may build on cinema5d
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: wedding91 on May 25, 2013, 12:48:56 PM
Quote from: squig on May 25, 2013, 03:34:26 AM
Sounds like you bought either a fake or a dud.
Yeah seems like =/ i send the card back today...i hope i will get my money back.
Then I am going to try the komputerbay cards i guess...
Keeping my fingers crossed
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: inhousegoods on May 26, 2013, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: wedding91 on May 25, 2013, 12:48:56 PM
Yeah seems like =/ i send the card back today...i hope i will get my money back.
Then I am going to try the komputerbay cards i guess...
Keeping my fingers crossed


Just picked up two 32gb 1000x lexar cards, running into the same problem as you with the May 22nd build. Writing speed is being clocked at 20mb/s. Switched over to the May 20th build, the same cards are being clocked at 82mb/s, could record 1920x1080p without skipped frames for 1191 frames (4gb limit?). Not sure what the problem is with the new build, highly doubt it's the card since it works smoothly with the previous build
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: beat_takashi on May 26, 2013, 09:35:16 AM
if you experience writing problems with the 22nd build, try the 20th build from cinema5d, chances are your card is fine especially if it's a new fast lexar card, thats why they cost a bomb! same thing happened to me on 25th but everything's perfect on the 20th. just recorded and opened a 11gb with the latest raw2dng without a hitch. the most stable so far but vertical banding's still exist. can be easily solved by 50 points luminance on noise reduction.
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: wedding91 on May 26, 2013, 02:39:50 PM
So could you post the 20 may build for me? I send the card back to the seller and i will try a new one not a used one from lexar again...
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: flambe on June 26, 2013, 10:52:44 PM
I have 2.3 installed on my 50D with the raw modules from:
https://bitbucket.org/GregoryOfManhattan/magic-lantern/downloads/09june13-50D-45e63064ec08-70MB.zip


I just purchased a Lexar 32Gb 1000x CF card and am having difficulty attaining any kind of write speed above 60Mbps even with GlobalDraw off.

Edit. I bought the card from B&H so I hope it would be a legit one and not a knock off.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

James
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: Will@Elevate on June 27, 2013, 01:16:48 AM
Quote from: flambe on June 26, 2013, 10:52:44 PM
I have 2.3 installed on my 50D with the raw modules from:
https://bitbucket.org/GregoryOfManhattan/magic-lantern/downloads/09june13-50D-45e63064ec08-70MB.zip


I just purchased a Lexar 32Gb 1000x CF card and am having difficulty attaining any kind of write speed above 60Mbps even with GlobalDraw off.

Edit. I bought the card from B&H so I hope it would be a legit one and not a knock off.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

James

Having the same issue myself.  Trying to figure out if I'm the problem or not.
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: albert-e on June 27, 2013, 05:04:40 PM
Quote from: aaphotog on May 22, 2013, 12:28:08 AM
so the 600x has a sustained speed of 90mb/s, while the 800x are MUCH slower?

The formula to compute the transfer rate:
150Kbps(standard transfer) x nnn;  for example a 600x card is (150x600) = 90Mbs.

Hardware Interface
It really depends on the hardware interface of your camera, if it supports higher UDMA. Be aware of the camera's feature.
Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDMA

If you are using Canon 50D (UDMA 6 capable) based on the specifications: Should be capable of 130Mb/s.

But of course, some manufacturer's are out of specs. So,buyer beware; buy from legit store, return it back and you can argue the case; but then they can argue that the camera is out of spec. You can't win, it happened to me! In the end, they gave me a higher transfer rate card and I paid the difference.

:-)

Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: KSphoto on June 27, 2013, 05:48:05 PM
I have a 32GB Lexar 600x and I'm quite happy with writing speeds just over 70mbs. It seems to be an overachiever. Looks like you cant buy them anymore but the better 1000x speed cards are $125 for 32GB.
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: jose_ugs on January 03, 2014, 10:58:46 AM
For the record... here's a 1000X 64GB Lexar, freshly formatted (exFat, Default alloc.):

(http://quinox-std.com/ml/lexar-cf.png)
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: RenatoPhoto on January 03, 2014, 02:23:37 PM
Quote from: jose_ugs on January 03, 2014, 10:58:46 AM
For the record...
You should benchmark in Playback mode to find the fastest card speeds.  Your test is in Movie mode
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: jose_ugs on January 03, 2014, 03:52:48 PM
Isnt the Movie mode the one that actually matters?
I had a KB, which failed, performing so damn well in Playback mode, and doing so bad when actually using it real "filming" :(
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: RenatoPhoto on January 03, 2014, 07:25:48 PM
Benchmark was developed to measure maximum speed performance at different cluster size.  Very strange if your card had excellent playback write speed and poor movie recording. 

I believe during playback-benchmarking there is less use of the CPU so that the highest recording speed can be obtained and compared to what the manufacturer claims.  If you benchmark in movie mode then there are a lot of settings that can slow down recording so it is not recommended to test in this mode.
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: jose_ugs on January 07, 2014, 04:45:58 PM
@RenatoPhoto Thanks man... i've updated my thing with Playback mode incl.
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: Mike88 on February 21, 2014, 11:47:51 AM
Hey everyone, just went to buy a Lexar 600x for my 50D, and found a seller on eBay selling 8GB 600x cards for $24- http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/like/301096387223
and others selling for $30. I had a look for 16gb and 32gb and they're $100+
Is there any chance the 8GB could be a fraud? I know its a small card but I'm not intending to film long shots.
Would this mean I can get 90mbps speeds from a $24 card?!
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 21, 2014, 01:29:30 PM
Quote from: Mike88 on February 21, 2014, 11:47:51 AM
Hey everyone, just went to buy a Lexar 600x for my 50D, and found a seller on eBay selling 8GB 600x cards for $24- http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/like/301096387223
and others selling for $30.

http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-Professional-CompactFlash-Memory-LCF8GBCTBNA800/dp/B0093HGD2K/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1392985648&sr=1-1&keywords=lexar+8gb+800x
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: Mike88 on February 21, 2014, 01:57:06 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on February 21, 2014, 01:29:30 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-Professional-CompactFlash-Memory-LCF8GBCTBNA800/dp/B0093HGD2K/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1392985648&sr=1-1&keywords=lexar+8gb+800x

Yes that's the Lexar 800x, but according the OP the 8-32gb cards max out at 45mbps, while strangely enough all the 600x cards can write at 90mbps. I need at least 70mpbs to record 24fps on the 50D, so 800x won't cut it unless I buy the 64gb, which is $120. That's why this 8GB 600x looks such a good deal.
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: albert-e on February 21, 2014, 03:29:36 PM
Quote from: Mike88 on February 21, 2014, 01:57:06 PM
Yes that's the Lexar 800x, but according the OP the 8-32gb cards max out at 45mbps, while strangely enough all the 600x cards can write at 90mbps. I need at least 70mpbs to record 24fps on the 50D, so 800x won't cut it unless I buy the 64gb, which is $120. That's why this 8GB 600x looks such a good deal.

"That's why this 8GB 600x looks such a good deal." Based on industry standard, 600x should give you 90MB/s speed, normally that is the read speed. Check the manufacturer's specification and manufacturers (believe it or not) are out of spec. on speed rating.
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: Mike88 on February 21, 2014, 03:53:07 PM
Well according to benchmarks of read/write speed, the average write speed for this card is around 80Mbps. I need exactly 67mbps for the 50D. Anyway all I was wondering is what are the chances that they could sell a counterfeit card? Is there any risk in buying it and not being able to get my money back if it doesn't meet the requirements?
Title: Re: RAW REC - LEXAR CARDs - W/R SPEED
Post by: pv25pv on February 27, 2014, 02:14:13 PM
HI all..anyone has tested the lexar 64GB 800x in movie mode? I wonder what resolution this card can handle in ML..