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Title: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on May 20, 2013, 04:07:12 PM
Okay so obviously with all the recent developments with RAW, all the Dev's have their hands a bit full so I thought I would start a thread about how to get started with installing Magic Lantern on a 6D and get started with RAW Video.

There is no "official" release yet and it is still being ported over by the kick ass cyber ninjas 1% and coutts but I figured their (and the other Dev's) time is better spent with the developing side than helping mere mortals like you and me get this installed on our beloved cameras. It has to be said that the Dev's here are all super committed to helping us all make this work and from my experience seem to do all of this while asking nothing in return. However, if you look at the steps involved in installing an unreleased/experimental version of Magic Lantern (which really is quite quick and simple, it's just that it takes a lot of explaining to someone who has no idea what a "bin" is) then that really is a full time job on it's own if you think about how many people ask this question on a daily.

So I decided start a new thread and to provide a guide from my own experience of being a n00b to get started with Magic Lantern and RAW video shooting in an attempt to take some of the strain off the Dev's so that they can concentrate more on perfecting Magic Lantern and RAW shooting so we can reap all the benefits and buy expensive jewelry and fancy hats from all the profits we make when using it on our kick ass videos (mwahahahaha).

Ps. If anyone wants to give me details on how to make a card bootable in Mac or Linux OS then I'll update the guide. Please make it as simple to follow as possible (as in remember that some people are completely alien to this). Thank you  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 20, 2013, 04:07:52 PM
Updated install instructions can be found here:  http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3904.0
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: rpmcam on May 20, 2013, 05:20:56 PM
very good idea men, waiting for it!!!
its a good place to start cause , sincerely if you dont really follow the threads, it's very easy to get confuse. And for my that im in a zillion forums trying new stuff it's great!!!
Thxs!!! and waiting to test it! (never try ML before)


Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 20, 2013, 08:19:45 PM
Please let me know if anyone has success with this. Feedback is appreciated. Cheers.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 20, 2013, 08:52:12 PM
Okay so I've had a message saying it all successfully installed (hooray) but that after a few seconds of raw recording they get err70 crash (boooo!). So bare with me until I get this sorted with them and I'll try and post the fix shortly. I anyone else has this problem let me know. Cheers.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 20, 2013, 11:11:40 PM
If anyone else gets error 70 when recording raw, just pull battery and try this:

Format card.

Run EOScard and check usual boxes and save.

Replace files on card with files in this zip: Obsolete link removed - Please use the official nightly builds //Audionut

MODULES, SCRIPTS folders and ini files go in ML folder. Autoexec and FIR file go in route.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: lukini2006 on May 21, 2013, 02:33:51 AM
HOW COME NOBODY CAME BY THIS POST AND THANKED NOISYBOY!? I got it working thanks to you man! I registered only to thank you!
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 21, 2013, 02:48:29 AM
HOW COME NOBODY CAME BY THIS POST AND THANKED NOISYBOY!? I got it working thanks to you man! I registered only to thank you!

You're very welcome dude and thank you!  8)

Would you mind telling me how you got on? Did RAW video work with the files included in the zip or did you get errors and have to use the additional files posted later on?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: fauxtographer on May 21, 2013, 06:16:57 AM
YOU THE MAN!!! I GOT IT WORKING!!!!
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: kuchtui on May 21, 2013, 07:00:15 AM
Thank you noisyboy for this guide, works perfectly.
Here is my first ML RAW-video (1504 x600): ???

https://vimeo.com/66564027 (https://vimeo.com/66564027)

Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: yoyoteng on May 21, 2013, 07:15:27 AM
Got it working too!  ;D ;D

Thank you Noisyboy, and of course, 1% and other contributors that made Magic Lantern work on the 6D.

I encountered a minor problem where at steps 6 and 13, when pressing save, EOScard.exe gave a popup window with the error "zip format".  There was no errors when only EOS_DEVELOP was checked.  Anyways, to bypass these errors for steps 6 and 13, I jumped to steps 7 and 15, respectively, and then repeated steps 6 or 13 again, then continued on the tutorial.  Basically, I had to copy Magic Lantern's firmware first to the SD card and then run EOScard.

Thanks again for the excellent tutorial.  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 21, 2013, 09:50:34 AM
Thank you noisyboy for this guide, works perfectly.
Here is my first ML RAW-video (1504 x600): ???

https://vimeo.com/66564027 (https://vimeo.com/66564027)

Cool man :) Particularly like shots from 00:26-00:36! Colours look brilliants!
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 21, 2013, 09:53:04 AM
Got it working too!  ;D ;D

Thank you Noisyboy, and of course, 1% and other contributors that made Magic Lantern work on the 6D.

I encountered a minor problem where at steps 6 and 13, when pressing save, EOScard.exe gave a popup window with the error "zip format".  There was no errors when only EOS_DEVELOP was checked.  Anyways, to bypass these errors for steps 6 and 13, I jumped to steps 7 and 15, respectively, and then repeated steps 6 or 13 again, then continued on the tutorial.  Basically, I had to copy Magic Lantern's firmware first to the SD card and then run EOScard.

Thanks again for the excellent tutorial.  8)

No worries :) Thanks for sharing your experience and how you got around it. I shall amend the guide if this becomes a problem for others! Much appreciated!
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: rpmcam on May 21, 2013, 01:44:35 PM
i'll try tonight and post. And yes, Thanks noisyboy and all the team of ML

The video of kuchtui had a lot of aliasing, don`t u think??

Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 21, 2013, 02:34:35 PM
i'll try tonight and post. And yes, Thanks noisyboy and all the team of ML

The video of kuchtui had a lot of aliasing, don`t u think??


Yeah man - it's a bit of a problem. Don't think there is much we can do but be clever in how we shoot and treat in post. I just posted this in another thread but worth posting here just incase it helps others:

I personally found that moire appears a bit worse when shooting raw on the 6D, not because raw is making it worse as it were but its not got the compression hiding what is already there as much. Basically it could be down to the raw image being so unforgiving without the compression softening the detail. That and the line skipping on mkII and 6D making things so shit. I found after a lot of playing that you can help fight this in post with two things. The color artifacts can be treated by using a plugin like RE:Vision smooth kit to Gaussion Blur just the chroma. This is also possible by applying an anti moire filter in your Adobe raw settings when importing to AE by choosing the filter brush and painting using it to mask the whole image and then adjusting the moire slider to remove the horrible color artifacts. Be careful not to go too far as it can blur the wrong colors too much. After that you can use a plugin like Re:Vision Anti-Staircase (also a part of Smoothkit) in After Effects (it's called something like that) to blur the aliasing (a value of about 70 helps a lot). This of course blurs the image slightly but once the aliasing is smoothed you can return some sharpness with a sharp filter or un-sharp  mask. Better the image slightly soft anyway than having your image shimmering with moire and aliasing. Blugh!  8) I'll try and upload some comparison videos when I get a chance.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 22, 2013, 09:46:37 AM
UPDATE

If you want the latest raw shooting module which is up to date with the current development AND keeps the improved speeds of the previous module then replace files on your card with the files from this zip at the top of this page:

Obsolete link removed - Please use the official nightly builds //Audionut

(you want the one titled "[113] Updates- Bracketing Prefix in Transition .zip").

Mad props to 1%
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: oreosandcola on May 22, 2013, 07:37:14 PM

9: With a full battery, with "M" (MANUAL) shooting mode, update your cameras firmware as per the Canon 6D instruction manual. This will now use the ML Developer Firmware (6D-112.fir) to "Set the Bootflag" on you camera. In n00b terms, this basically means that you'll be able to use Magic Lantern on your 6D.


Ok so I apologize for wasting time with a silly question like this but I'm certain I've followed every step (multiple times) and I keep getting an error "update file cannot be found" when I try to install this firmware. Anyone know why this may be happening? Thank you for any help!
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting - Update file not found
Post by: DimonCJ on May 22, 2013, 09:56:08 PM
Hello,
i can't install ML on my 6D. Problem is that firmware is 1.1.2 and i go from step 1 to step 5; I follow the instruction, but on the 9 step i got this error:
Quote
Firmware update program
=================
Update file error.
Please check the memory card and reload the battery and try again.
and even firmware file selection menu didn't show. But if copy original 1.1.2 - 6D000112.FIR , then firmware file selection menu shows and i can even choose file 6D-112.fir, but then i've got same error on 30% : http://i.imgur.com/hhrs5vS.png
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting - Update file not found
Post by: noisyboy on May 22, 2013, 10:43:12 PM
Hello,
i can't install ML on my 6D. Problem is that firmware is 1.1.2 and i go from step 1 to step 5; I follow the instruction, but on the 9 step i got this error:  and even firmware file selection menu didn't show. But if copy original 1.1.2 - 6D000112.FIR , then firmware file selection menu shows and i can even choose file 6D-112.fir, but then i've got same error on 30% : http://i.imgur.com/hhrs5vS.png

Hey!

So just to make sure, you are running Firmware 1.1.2?

You have formatted your SD card?

You have then run EOScard and selected the two checkboxes as instructed and clicked save?

After this do you see any files on your SD card?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 22, 2013, 10:46:03 PM
Ok so I apologize for wasting time with a silly question like this but I'm certain I've followed every step (multiple times) and I keep getting an error "update file cannot be found" when I try to install this firmware. Anyone know why this may be happening? Thank you for any help!

Same questions as I have just asked DimonCJ apply here. I don't think it should matter but having the card bootable with all the other necessary ML files made a difference to me. Without them I had the same update error.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: uglydrunkling on May 23, 2013, 07:56:34 AM
Ok so I apologize for wasting time with a silly question like this but I'm certain I've followed every step (multiple times) and I keep getting an error "update file cannot be found" when I try to install this firmware. Anyone know why this may be happening? Thank you for any help!

Try a smaller SD card. I had the same problem using a 64GB card. Then I tried a 4GB card and it worked like a charm.

Skimming the ML manual I found that the ML firmware updates don't work on cards larger than a certain size. But now that I am trying to find the exact passage, I can't. I swear I read it somewhere.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting - Update file not found
Post by: DimonCJ on May 23, 2013, 01:06:51 PM
Hey!
...


>So just to make sure, you are running Firmware 1.1.2?
Yes, I'm sure. I re-firmwared it twice.

>You have formatted your SD card?
Yes, I tried both on 6D and on PC. BTW, my card is AData 64 GB UHS-1 exFat.

>You have then run EOScard and selected the two checkboxes as instructed and clicked save?
Yes, I tried version from your archive and tried old (that don't download ML).

>After this do you see any files on your SD card?
Yes, I see it the new version of EOSCard. And I deleted them.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: neofg on May 23, 2013, 01:49:46 PM
Here a (bad quality) first test with 600D. It's very impressive to look at sharpness, detail and gamma with this format. I shoot max 42 frames at 25 fps with my 30 MB/s Class 10 SD...
(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.timmagine.com%2FTEST_01.jpg&hash=fbc37bf5f6c28c1752d9c2780d75efb3)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting - Update file not found
Post by: uglydrunkling on May 23, 2013, 05:10:04 PM

>You have formatted your SD card?
Yes, I tried both on 6D and on PC. BTW, my card is AData 64 GB UHS-1 exFat.


This is exactly what I am talking about. I used a Sony 64 GB UHS-1 exFat, and my camera couldn't find the updater. Then I used a regular old FAT32 4 GB instead and it found the updater right away.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting - Update file not found
Post by: noisyboy on May 23, 2013, 06:25:59 PM

>So just to make sure, you are running Firmware 1.1.2?
Yes, I'm sure. I re-firmwared it twice.

>You have formatted your SD card?
Yes, I tried both on 6D and on PC. BTW, my card is AData 64 GB UHS-1 exFat.

>You have then run EOScard and selected the two checkboxes as instructed and clicked save?
Yes, I tried version from your archive and tried old (that don't download ML).

>After this do you see any files on your SD card?
Yes, I see it the new version of EOSCard. And I deleted them.

Not forgotten you bro - just gonna try and downgrade and perform the installation process again and see if there is a problem. Did you try a smaller card as suggested by uglydunking?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 23, 2013, 06:33:00 PM
Here a (bad quality) first test with 600D. It's very impressive to look at sharpness, detail and gamma with this format. I shoot max 42 frames at 25 fps with my 30 MB/s Class 10 SD...

Nice work but this is the 6D thread buddy  ;) 600D and raw thread here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5494.0

Thanks.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 24, 2013, 02:38:57 AM
Okay so I modified the guide as I realized that I'd instructed to make the card bootable before setting the bootflag which isn't necessary so follow the guide again (I have edited it already) and see how you get on.

Cheers  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: ManixLiquid on May 24, 2013, 03:50:35 AM
Crap. I installed ML on the 1.1.3 firmware. The camera doesn't seem to have any issues. So I just have to uninstalled ML, downgrade to 1.1.2 firmware and re-install ML, right?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 24, 2013, 04:11:38 AM
Crap. I installed ML on the 1.1.3 firmware. The camera doesn't seem to have any issues. So I just have to uninstalled ML, downgrade to 1.1.2 firmware and re-install ML, right?

Hmm... did it allow you to set the bootflag while running 1.1.3?

Was your camera running 1.1.3 at the time I mean or did you install on 1.1.2 then upgrade. Odd coz I don't think you should be able to set bootflag on 1.1.3
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: ManixLiquid on May 24, 2013, 04:33:13 AM
Oddly enough, I installed the boot lag on 113. I had ML on 112 previously. So I uninstalled ML before upgrading the firmware to 113. Then boot lag the sd on 113, format card, put lastest 6d ML bin, and it worked. Beside the camera freezing/jamming at random when recording videos, there's was no other problems.

I now uninstalled ML and the camera seems to be fine. I'll downgrading to 112 when battery is fully charged.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: ManixLiquid on May 24, 2013, 04:55:19 AM
Come to think about it, it's possible that I uninstalled ML improperly before upgrading to 1.1.3. I think I formatted the card but I didn't press Q to format card + remove ML. Might be why I was able to boot lag ML on 1.1.3?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: xNiNELiVES on May 24, 2013, 05:06:43 AM
Since I'm new here I'd like to get this straight:
-Does the Canon 6D support Raw video at 24p with the 5D Mark III and II?
-Does the video support sound, and is sustainable for minutes straight or until a 4gb cap?
-I thought ML hasn't finished developing for the Canon 6D?
-In the alpha versions of ML for the 6D is time lapse shooting supported?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: DimonCJ on May 24, 2013, 06:21:49 AM
I follow to new instruction without using EOSCard and on step 7 have an old trouble - "Update file cannot be found". Or you update something in archive?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 24, 2013, 06:36:47 AM
I follow to new instruction without using EOSCard and on step 7 have an old trouble - "Update file cannot be found". Or you update something in archive?

Hmmm... At the moment I'm stumped dude. I just tried again using the exact same steps and the exact same zip file and it works fine. Let me have a chat with one of the Devs and I'll try and get back to you asap. Thanks.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 24, 2013, 06:45:21 AM
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-Does the Canon 6D support Raw video at 24p with the 5D Mark III and II?

Yes but not yet up to 1080p but still very good.

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-Does the video support sound, and is sustainable for minutes straight or until a 4gb cap?

Sound isn't embedded in video as it's essentially a sequence of raw images but there are workarounds.

Quote
-I thought ML hasn't finished developing for the Canon 6D?

It hasn't been anywhere near finished yet - you install this completely at the risk of damaging your camera.

Quote
-In the alpha versions of ML for the 6D is time lapse shooting supported?

Yes - Pretty much everything is in there.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 24, 2013, 06:46:49 AM
Come to think about it, it's possible that I uninstalled ML improperly before upgrading to 1.1.3. I think I formatted the card but I didn't press Q to format card + remove ML. Might be why I was able to boot lag ML on 1.1.3?

Even if you formatted the card it would not have removed the bootflag - just made the card itself unbootable. To remove the bootflag is a completey different process so I'd say you are fine :)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 24, 2013, 06:49:10 AM
I follow to new instruction without using EOSCard and on step 7 have an old trouble - "Update file cannot be found". Or you update something in archive?

What does the file structure look like on the card dude? Root director should display:

[ML]
6D-112.fir
autoexec.bin
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: smoli4 on May 24, 2013, 01:47:34 PM
Cool thread, thanks for all the help :D
i get only 60 frames of RAW with 45mb/s 32gb sd, i guess i gotta get the 95mb/s card for little more frames, or could a fast card like 95mb/s record without stoping?

and one more question, how do i allocate more then 152mb for the raw video file?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 24, 2013, 02:38:02 PM
Cool thread, thanks for all the help :D
i get only 60 frames of RAW with 45mb/s 32gb sd, i guess i gotta get the 95mb/s card for little more frames, or could a fast card like 95mb/s record without stoping?

At what resolution/framerate etc? Continuous recording is only at lower resolutions.

Quote
and one more question, how do i allocate more then 152mb for the raw video file?

Not entirely sure what you mean mate?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: smoli4 on May 24, 2013, 03:14:57 PM
At what resolution/framerate etc? Continuous recording is only at lower resolutions.

Not entirely sure what you mean mate?
im recording at at 1920x962, i get 75 frames if i go 720.
when the raw video starts recording it says:
Allocating memory
Allocated 152 MiB
and it creates this ~150mb raw file..
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: 1% on May 24, 2013, 04:20:59 PM
Right now you can't get more than that MB amount, yet. Lower res should be continuous.... for me 1320x5soemthing keeps going. Look at the MB/s indicator and see if your card can do that.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: smoli4 on May 24, 2013, 09:34:24 PM
im getting 30mb/s from my card, ill need to check out with a different ML build for the lower resolutions
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: 1% on May 24, 2013, 09:43:02 PM
They should be there, just pick different aspect ratios. 30MB is about what I get.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: smoli4 on May 24, 2013, 10:33:18 PM
They should be there, just pick different aspect ratios. 30MB is about what I get.

cool, thanks. i find that if i set frame skip = 2, instead of 1, it start recording without stopping at 1920x480 :P
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: 1% on May 24, 2013, 10:43:52 PM
Sounds like lv_rec
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: xNiNELiVES on May 25, 2013, 09:58:10 PM
Yes but not yet up to 1080p but still very good.

Sound isn't embedded in video as it's essentially a sequence of raw images but there are workarounds.

It hasn't been anywhere near finished yet - you install this completely at the risk of damaging your camera.

Yes - Pretty much everything is in there.

Thanks man, is there a reputation system on these forums, I'd like to give you some!

So does a 95mb/s card allow for unlimited shooting since I read up that taking RAW video utilizes only 72mb/s? Also I heard that the T3i or 600D only supports 21mb/s no matter what SD Card you use. Does the 6D have these limitations or does it operate the same as a 5D Mark II and 5D Mark III? You say it works almost up to 1080P is that the same case with the 5d's?

Anyways since I have a 6D, I'd like to help with testing as much as I can. I want to sort of pay back in a way by helping. All I need is guidance. Is the current version somewhat stable?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: 1% on May 25, 2013, 10:10:09 PM
Stable enought... best bank for buck right now is sandisk 45MB/s.. the pro 95 probably gives you like 1 or 2 mb more at best. Bus is limited to 50MB/s
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: xNiNELiVES on May 26, 2013, 12:11:07 AM
Stable enought... best bank for buck right now is sandisk 45MB/so the she pro 95 probably gives you like 1 or 2 mb more at best. Bus is limited to 50MB/s

Is the 5d mark ii and mark ii limited with SD cards (excluding CF cards)? 

What would the update procedure be with magic lantern? Just remove it completely by formating the card and reinstalling with updated the software?

Would a 2.35:1 aspect ratio allow unlimited shooting? (1920x817)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 26, 2013, 01:43:09 AM
Stable enought... best bank for buck right now is sandisk 45MB/s.. the pro 95 probably gives you like 1 or 2 mb more at best. Bus is limited to 50MB/s

+1 on the 45MB/s Extremes. No need for the Pro at all. I bought a card that is twice as fast as the Extreme and it actually performs slower on a 6D. Weird huh!

(that wasn't something I was explaining to you 1% - you've heard enough of my whining about this already) ;)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 26, 2013, 01:50:53 AM
Is the 5d mark ii and mark ii limited with SD cards (excluding CF cards)? 

What would the update procedure be with magic lantern? Just remove it completely by formatting the card and reinstalling with updated the software?

Not entirely sure what you are asking here dude sorry - you'll have to elaborate on both questions for my tiny mind. In regards to updating ML, do you have it installed already? If so and you want to use the latest build it's just a case of replacing (by copying and pasting) a few files to the SD Card.

Would a 2.35:1 aspect ratio allow unlimited shooting? (1920x817)

Not at that res at the moment but new discoveries are being made all the time by the mods so it might happen/might not.

Highest res continuous I have found so far (without compromising to much vertical resolution) is 1536x640 which I guess is 2.4:1
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: Audionut on May 26, 2013, 02:01:20 AM
Is the 5d mark ii and mark ii limited with SD cards (excluding CF cards)? 

Yes.  The SD slot is limited to around 20MB/s.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: myke on May 26, 2013, 02:22:36 AM
Thank you for the topic, this is exactly what I've been looking for. I'll give it a try soon :)

Also - if you shoot RAW video like this, do the frames count towards the camera shutter count or is the shutter open during the whole recording process?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: evoxio on May 26, 2013, 04:37:43 AM
Huge thanks, Noisyboy! Everything has worked perfectly. You're a champion.

I've been using marten's RAWanizer to strip out the DNGs and it makes batch-processing many shots much easier:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5557.0

I'm noticing a couple things about the resulting footage:

Anyone know of something to fix that last problem - is there a discussion going on about it somewhere that I'm missing?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: 1% on May 26, 2013, 04:40:43 AM
I think the last problem is white balance... I was shooting and every time a cab drove by the image shifted to blue.

I set uniwb now.. haven't seen it but haven't tested very hard.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: evoxio on May 26, 2013, 04:51:05 AM
I think I've figured it out. I took a shot with a particularly bad instance of color-shifting problems and processed the DNG files with all of the settings sliders set to neutral in Camera RAW and there was no color-shifting. So, I think the root of the problem is how the settings sliders in Camera RAW (like Clarity, Highlights and Shadows) dynamically adjust how they affect an image based on the content of the image. This isn't a problem when it comes to editing still images because the content of the image isn't changing - but with video, it is. I'm going to experiment a little more and see if it's maybe just one of the settings sliders that acts this way...
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: 1% on May 26, 2013, 05:12:26 AM
Also if you set AWB  in camera raw for each shot because of the pink cast, could that change it going along with it processing every image differently?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: evoxio on May 26, 2013, 05:16:45 AM
Correct. It's definitely this type of problem that causes the color shifting. So far, I've tested auto-white-balance and clarity and they both dramatically cause the color shifting - meaning that their effect on the image is dependent on the content of the image (in other words, a pixel with the exact same color value in different areas of the image will be color-shifted in different ways, depending on the other pixels around it). This is the problem we need to avoid. I'm testing the other settings...
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: 1% on May 26, 2013, 05:38:59 AM
This happened to rawanizer too? I thought it used ufraw or dcraw. I batch processed with the newest ACR as a photo when I saw it.

Batch processing this way is irritating but resizing appears better.

Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 26, 2013, 05:52:28 AM

  • - The DNGs are about 1-1.5 stops darker than the viewfinder would suggest when you're recording. Thus, you have to boost the exposure in your RAW processor, which can introduce a lot of noise.

You're welcome! Just so you know - raw histogram is available in the histogram sub menu too! That said - I don't think I've even had a chance to use it yet. I assume this works with raw_rec too?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: xNiNELiVES on May 26, 2013, 07:10:09 AM
Does picture profile not effect raw video like the raw format for pictures?

With 1920x840 requiring 55mb/s do you guys think refinements can make it sustainable without having to let the buffer load? 5mb/s isn't too much less.

Edit: now rereading I am appalled that 1536 by 600 resolution files are apparently maximally capable. I will NOT be shooting in ******* lesser resolution than 720p. There has to be reworks to a higher resolution. I just saw above that 1920x840 requires 55mb/s, 6d having an SD card write speed of 50 mb/s. So aren't we pretty close? Unless the 50mb/s isn't an effective write speed and its less than that... I'm so mad....
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: evoxio on May 26, 2013, 07:46:40 AM
After some testing, it seems like the luma/color shifting problem in ACR can be caused by modifying nearly any of the settings sliders.

Here's a particularly bad example (watch the luma of the building in the background):
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1keq-qyTGDNT21mR0hmWVFFc2s/edit?usp=sharing

I've opened up a separate thread to continue the discussion about the issue here:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5710.0
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: kgv5 on May 26, 2013, 09:17:46 AM
. I will NOT be shooting in ******* lesser resolution than 720p. There has to be reworks to a higher resolution.

But 1280x720 with 2,35:1 spect ratio is 1280x544, so  1500x600 is little bit more in fact. Actually you can shoot 1280x720 continously if you prefer 16:9.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: kgv5 on May 26, 2013, 09:33:05 AM
Guys
correct me if I am wrong:

raw 720p is better than stock in terms of aliasing and moire because:
1) it is a crop from 1080p so the same moire and aliasing like stock1080p
2) canon stock 720p has more line skipping/orher processing (to make lower res with no crop) than stock 1080p so more aliasing/moire

Or maybe line skipping is the same and doesn't matter here, just upscaling? Did you make 720p raw and stock moire comparisons?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: myke on May 26, 2013, 01:11:42 PM
Does anyone know the answer, please? :) I suppose the second option is correct, but just to be sure.
Also - if you shoot RAW video like this, do the frames count towards the camera shutter count or is the shutter open during the whole recording process (just like when recording normally)?

Regarding the SD cards, here is a little test I stumbled upon: http://www.gavtrain.com/?p=2617 (http://www.gavtrain.com/?p=2617)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: nanomad on May 26, 2013, 01:52:59 PM
RAW video is just like standard video as far as the shutter is concerned, so you get no shutter movment at all
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: smoli4 on May 26, 2013, 06:24:55 PM
Sounds like lv_rec
i guess it is.
when i just replace the autoexec.bin and module folder to the newest build, i cant find the start stop recording for RAW.. and i cant find anywhere where you could choose a lower resolution..
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: 1% on May 26, 2013, 06:32:49 PM
Modules in ML folder... raw_rec has to load and its in the movie menu.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: xNiNELiVES on May 26, 2013, 07:16:18 PM
what does lv_rec do?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: smoli4 on May 26, 2013, 08:16:40 PM
Thanks i was dropping the module folder unto the root
pretty nice results with a sandisk extreme 45mb card,, getting all the good stuff of raw video :D
during recording it does 38-39mb\s
and would you like me to upload the crash logs?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: 1% on May 26, 2013, 08:31:07 PM
Which crash was it?

H264 is fixed - patches not applied
Sometimes get an allocate single chunk timeout... its intermittent, not sure why. Doesn't do anything but poo a crash log onto your card.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 26, 2013, 09:31:34 PM
Edit: now rereading I am appalled that 1536 by 600 resolution files are apparently maximally capable. I will NOT be shooting in ******* lesser resolution than 720p. There has to be reworks to a higher resolution. I just saw above that 1920x840 requires 55mb/s, 6d having an SD card write speed of 50 mb/s. So aren't we pretty close? Unless the 50mb/s isn't an effective write speed and its less than that... I'm so mad....

Dude - can we just remind you that the Devs are working their asses off in their free time to give you what you already have. Please be patient and keep it polite. Thanks :)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: OriginalClone on May 26, 2013, 09:39:13 PM
Does picture profile not effect raw video like the raw format for pictures?

With 1920x840 requiring 55mb/s do you guys think refinements can make it sustainable without having to let the buffer load? 5mb/s isn't too much less.

Edit: now rereading I am appalled that 1536 by 600 resolution files are apparently maximally capable. I will NOT be shooting in ******* lesser resolution than 720p. There has to be reworks to a higher resolution. I just saw above that 1920x840 requires 55mb/s, 6d having an SD card write speed of 50 mb/s. So aren't we pretty close? Unless the 50mb/s isn't an effective write speed and its less than that... I'm so mad....

You're very ungrateful.  Why don't you do it yourself?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: N/A on May 26, 2013, 09:49:17 PM
Dude - can we just remind you that the Devs are working their asses off in their free time to give you what you already have. Please be patient and keep it polite. Thanks :)
Not to mention, ML is absolutely free. Even if it was a for-profit project, would still be 100% worth it.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: xNiNELiVES on May 26, 2013, 10:44:56 PM
Dude - can we just remind you that the Devs are working their asses off in their free time to give you what you already have. Please be patient and keep it polite. Thanks :)

Yeah I'm not mad at them.  I understand they're working hard, it just angers me than canon didn't place a CF card slot in the 6D.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 26, 2013, 11:28:20 PM
Yeah I'm not mad at them.  I understand they're working hard, it just angers me than canon didn't place a CF card slot in the 6D.

Cool  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 27, 2013, 03:09:39 AM
Guys
correct me if I am wrong:

raw 720p is better than stock in terms of aliasing and moire because:
1) it is a crop from 1080p so the same moire and aliasing like stock1080p
2) canon stock 720p has more line skipping/orher processing (to make lower res with no crop) than stock 1080p so more aliasing/moire

Or maybe line skipping is the same and doesn't matter here, just upscaling? Did you make 720p raw and stock moire comparisons?

Hey man. You are right that it's a crop of 1920x1080 but remember that the crop comes from the already downsized 1920x1080 image and not from the 5472x3072 image the sensor could capture when shooting stills for example. So sadly - short answer is we get no reduction in moire or aliasing as the line-skipping still takes place (or at least that's my limited understanding of it).

I do find it interesting though the artifacts appears more in the raw image compared to h.264 and have thought for some time that this seem more apparent due to h.264 losing a bit of detail when encoding.

I'm completely speculating here of course but I guess the only way to know for sure is to capture the same scene twice - once with h.264 and once with raw. Then we could take the raw sequence and match the h.264 compression settings inside of encoding software on a computer and compress the raw footage there and compare the resulting file with the compressed image taken from the camera. If that makes sense?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: smoli4 on May 27, 2013, 12:04:29 PM
match the h.264 compression settings inside of encoding software on a computer and compress the raw footage there and compare the resulting file with the compressed image taken from the camera. If that makes sense?

I am planning on doing that actually.
now about the crashes i was having, i had a few that were err 70, and a few that i didnt pay attention but i have all the logs tho'.

but the weirdest thing right now is that the image in LV freezes when i hit the Rec button. It happens only when recording RAW, and it returns to normal after i stopped the recording or the recording has ended.


Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 27, 2013, 02:52:33 PM
I am planning on doing that actually.
now about the crashes i was having, i had a few that were err 70, and a few that i didnt pay attention but i have all the logs tho'.

but the weirdest thing right now is that the image in LV freezes when i hit the Rec button. It happens only when recording RAW, and it returns to normal after i stopped the recording or the recording has ended.

Great! Post your results when you have them :
Re: the crashes - have you tried using the latest module? Think I might update the zip file with it as the older one which I originally included probably isn't as good as the later versions. Only thing stopping me is the coloured sprinkles of weird pixels issue but as soon as that fix is applied I'll change it over. Later versions are certainly more stable.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: cthurst193 on May 27, 2013, 11:55:28 PM
Hey Thanks for this Guide!!!

But I think I'll wait until the stable version is out.
Is there any kind of guess as to when it will be available?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 28, 2013, 12:26:09 AM
Hey Thanks for this Guide!!!

But I think I'll wait until the stable version is out.
Is there any kind of guess as to when it will be available?

You're welcome  ;)

Sadly there is no way to guess this but to be fair. Latest versions are pretty damn solid - just up to you if you want to risk the install procedure.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: 1% on May 28, 2013, 12:37:42 AM
Quote
Is there any kind of guess as to when it will be available?

Same time as the year of the linux desktop.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: cineblah on May 28, 2013, 01:55:42 AM
Noisyboy, thanks to you I was able to install ML on my 6D on a Mac!

For anyone who wants to try it on a Mac:
The only difference seems to be step 11: on a Mac you need to insert your card in your cardreader, download MacBoot, open it,  and select "DSLR Bootable" and then press "Prepare Card". That's it :)

Download MacBoot here: http://www.zenoshrdlu.com/macboot/macboot.html

If you're on Mountain Lion you also need the Mountain Lion fix: http://www.zenoshrdlu.com/macboot/macbootcommand.zip).
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 28, 2013, 03:05:17 AM
Noisyboy, thanks to you I was able to install ML on my 6D on a Mac!

For anyone who wants to try it on a Mac:
The only difference seems to be step 11: on a Mac you need to insert your card in your cardreader, download MacBoot, open it,  and select "DSLR Bootable" and then press "Prepare Card". That's it :)

Download MacBoot here: http://www.zenoshrdlu.com/macboot/macboot.html

If you're on Mountain Lion you also need the Mountain Lion fix: http://www.zenoshrdlu.com/macboot/macbootcommand.zip).

Great :) Glad to help! And thanks for the Mac tips. I'll add to the guide ;)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: ManixLiquid on May 28, 2013, 03:58:12 AM
NoisyBoy, I was wondering if you will add the proper settings in your guide for Encorder (Bit Rate, InitPQ, flush rate, gop size, etc) during normal shooting. Also, how do we setup ALL-IN and IPB mode in ML.

Thanks.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 28, 2013, 04:07:35 AM
I take it you mean when shooting h.264? I dont think that's  relavant to the installation or raw shooting so I'll not add it but recomend you use the search function on the forum and check the documentation.

As for All-I etc there is no "normal setting" it's down to what you need and any of that is adjusted just in the canon menu anyway. If you search the forum then you'll get a better understanding of the ML Encoder menu from reading around.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: 1% on May 28, 2013, 04:15:53 AM
Just load a config (or autoload config at startup) and don't set bit rate or qp. Works for ALL-I and ipb. Gop will always be 1. You can make it write out how fast you want with flush rate (no audio).


RC is good, cbr is for fixed qp (then you set bit rate and qp to go over the config). vbr is meh.


Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 28, 2013, 04:16:54 AM
What he said   8)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: Kathode-Ray on May 29, 2013, 12:25:32 PM
Hi Kraig,

Great thread! My 6D will arrive hopefully this week, I think installing ML will be the first thing I will do :-)

One problem i'm having: I get an error 'unexpected end of archive' when I open your RAR (from post #2) with WinRar, and I can only see the two Canon firmware files inside.

Ray
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 29, 2013, 10:12:32 PM
Have a go at this one and let me know if it works:

http://ge.tt/api/1/files/1YdeGzh/0/blob?download

Cheers Ray!

K
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: random on May 29, 2013, 11:02:02 PM
Habe ML  und 1.1.3 installiert und auch die letzten Module genommen ("Try this one.zip").

Möchte ich jetzt aber Module laden, kommt folgendes:

"Unloading module...

[i ] props    at: 0x00B2A5BC
[i ] cbr        at: 0x00B2A2E0"


Und der Display friert ein. Kamera ist nur durch Battery-Reset wieder zum Laufen zu kriegen.

Was mach ich falsch?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: 1% on May 29, 2013, 11:28:12 PM
will check unloading again. working out other kinks.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 30, 2013, 02:18:17 AM
Habe ML  und 1.1.3 installiert und auch die letzten Module genommen ("Try this one.zip").

Möchte ich jetzt aber Module laden, kommt folgendes:

"Unloading module...

[i ] props    at: 0x00B2A5BC
[i ] cbr        at: 0x00B2A2E0"


Und der Display friert ein. Kamera ist nur durch Battery-Reset wieder zum Laufen zu kriegen.

Was mach ich falsch?

Hallo! So erging es mir, wenn ich ein neues Modul mit einem alten Autoexec.bin.

Anstelle der Verwendung von "try this one" versuchen Sie die Dateien hier http://ge.tt/api/1/files/1YdeGzh/0/blob?download

Danke!  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: Kathode-Ray on May 30, 2013, 08:31:16 AM
This one works fine, thanks!

All files are there, now only my 6D has to arrive :-)

Ray
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 30, 2013, 06:07:12 PM
This one works fine, thanks!

All files are there, now only my 6D has to arrive :-)

Ray

Excitiiiing! Eek  ;D
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: Entracte on May 30, 2013, 06:45:45 PM
Hello all ,

Do you know if the 6D can take full advantage of an UHS-1 SD card ? Or the true limit is 40mb/s for any type of cards ?

Thank you ;)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: kgv5 on May 30, 2013, 06:57:07 PM
Theoretically it can write up to 50MB/s. Practically now we get average 37-39 with fastest UHS-I cards (45 and 95MB/s). Sometimes reaches 40-41 but for just a seconds.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: Entracte on May 30, 2013, 07:07:34 PM
Thank you for your answer kgv5,  so in fact maybe 40mb/s is the Bus card limit and if it's true we have no really hope to go with higher resolution ?

Maybe it's software limiting and a Canon firmware update will allow to fully benefit from the 95mb/s card ?

Anyway , we are lucky because the 6D seems to have the faster Sd card slot in the Canon line (40 MB/s vs 20MB/s for the 600d/60d)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: kgv5 on May 30, 2013, 07:23:24 PM
Maybe it's software limiting and a Canon firmware update will allow to fully benefit from the 95mb/s card ?

I doubt it, they probably thanking to God now that they didn't give 208Mhz bus or CF card reader to every camera. I suppose that writing speed would be the last thing they give with an update. :-\
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: random on May 30, 2013, 07:43:06 PM
Hallo! So erging es mir, wenn ich ein neues Modul mit einem alten Autoexec.bin.

Anstelle der Verwendung von "try this one" versuchen Sie die Dateien hier http://ge.tt/api/1/files/1YdeGzh/0/blob?download

Danke! 

Awesome, now it's working. Thank you so much guys, gonna post some test video quiet soon!  8)

EDIT: Why don't I have liveview while RAW recording, even though I put lv_Rec:RAW:ON ?
The first picture freezes until I stop the recording.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: DontDropIt on May 30, 2013, 08:26:35 PM
If I were to install ML on my 6D, how would I uninstall it if I decided that I did not want it?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: Entracte on May 30, 2013, 08:31:07 PM
I doubt it, they probably thanking to God now that they didn't give 208Mhz bus or CF card reader to every camera. I suppose that writing speed would be the last thing they give with an update. :-\

It's true , you're right  ;)

A question for the people who already uses the RAW video on the 6D : At which definition do you think it getting better in quality than the h264 1080p ?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: kgv5 on May 30, 2013, 08:55:38 PM
I have made some comparison some time ago; h.264 with the best ML encoder setting 1080p (IPB, gop24, bitrate ~60-70) and 1536x640 raw upscaled about 125% I believe. It was couple days ago with a quite old build. I tried to grade h264 clip to look as similar to raw as I could.
In terms of general sharpness I would say it is the same, I was quite happy that resolution which gives continous shooting is not worst than best h264 setting. In terms of detail it is much much better. Leaves, grass, everything has more...details. And dynamic range of course is also much better, I could easly bring back the blue sky with some clouds (with h264 sky was white/grey). Colors generally are much better too of course.

So I would say that 1536x640 raw is better than 1080p h264 and it is continous. With the newest build even 1600x670 is quite usable, around 370 frames, can also go wider to 1680x630 and also have ~380-400 frames. I need to make such a comparison.

Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 30, 2013, 09:31:23 PM
Awesome, now it's working. Thank you so much guys, gonna post some test video quiet soon!  8)

EDIT: Why don't I have live view while RAW recording, even though I put lv_Rec:RAW:ON ?
The first picture freezes until I stop the recording.

There is a mode called "HaCKeD mode" in the raw menu. This basically disables live view to squeeze some extra performance out of the camera to allow you to record (a little) longer. If you go into the menu and disable this you'll be able to use live view fine.

There is also a new module as of last night that will give you quite a bit more recording time courtesy of the awesome work of 1%.

You can find the new files by downloading the zip at the top of this page (https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads) ([113] mememe [no raw con].zip). Then just replace the files on your sd card with the files in the zip (files in MODULE folder go into MODULE folder on the SD card).

If anyone struggles with it I shall update the zip on the first page again later on and will add a note when it's there.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: kgv5 on May 30, 2013, 09:44:06 PM
Guys
maybe someone has an idea for a workflow with RAW DNG's and frame blending?

I thought about it before but with no success (couldn't make twixtor to work properly - but maybe I set something wrong)
With the latest build I checked fps override with maximum raw resolution and this is what I get:

1816x760 (2,39:1) 18fps          450 frames
                               19fps          260 frames
                               20fps         180 frames

1816x682 (2,67:1)  20fps       315frames
                                19fps      570 frames
                                18fps      >>> continous <<<

So I thought that it could be useful when there is a need for maximum quality with no so much movement. When I used HDR with FPS override set to 35 had 17,5 fps and look really good. What would you say?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 30, 2013, 10:49:00 PM
Guys
maybe someone has an idea for a workflow with RAW DNG's and frame blending?

I thought about it before but with no success (couldn't make twixtor to work properly - but maybe I set something wrong)
With the latest build I checked fps override with maximum raw resolution and this is what I get:

1816x760 (2,39:1) 18fps          450 frames
                               19fps          260 frames
                               20fps         180 frames

1816x682 (2,67:1)  20fps       315frames
                                19fps      570 frames
                                18fps      >>> continous <<<

So I thought that it could be useful when there is a need for maximum quality with no so much movement. When I used HDR with FPS override set to 35 had 17,5 fps and look really good. What would you say?

What was it that didn't work for you dude? You doing this in AE?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: Entracte on May 31, 2013, 12:43:28 AM
Thank you very much for your response kgv5 . so, dispite the lower resolution it's already a big gain (details and DR) , good to hear !
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: 1% on May 31, 2013, 01:08:51 AM
600D the 960x540 is better than 1080P H264. Even crappy 1280x592 for me beats QP1 H264. Sharpness a little... color a lot.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: smoli4 on May 31, 2013, 02:45:20 AM
Guys why does my live view image freezes once i start recording RAW ??
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 31, 2013, 04:13:54 AM
Guys why does my live view image freezes once i start recording RAW ??

The answer lies only 5 posts before your question ;)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on May 31, 2013, 05:20:38 AM
Updated zip on page one again with tonights build.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: Drewton on May 31, 2013, 05:52:26 AM
EDIT: Nevermind.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: n8ben on May 31, 2013, 03:37:30 PM
Great job putting this together, especially the one stop shop zip file that you keep updated! It's been a while since I was using a beta ML and it was nice to get access to everything so easily. I'm really looking forward to following the development for my new 6D. I'm already impressed with the new to me bling menu.

As an aside I think it's funny that the 50D I just sold apparently now does better raw video than this new 6D!

Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: kgv5 on May 31, 2013, 03:57:43 PM
As an aside I think it's funny that the 50D I just sold apparently now does better raw video than this new 6D!

When people get bored with watching raw movies with leaves and flowers in bright day they will start to shoot at night - and that's where 6D really shines, don't forget that  ;)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: 1% on May 31, 2013, 04:18:09 PM
Yea, shouldn't have sold 50D... CF cameras are boss and have more memory too :( Who would have thought.. now you can probably sell your 50D for $1k
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: fotojohni on May 31, 2013, 11:19:57 PM
Yea, shouldn't have sold 50D... CF cameras are boss and have more memory too :( Who would have thought.. now you can probably sell your 50D for $1k

Just luck of the draw.  50D is pretty absurd, also I think the price is going to level out after a few weeks.  Low light is same level as 5d mk ii.  But 6D is ridiculous, with raw it's pretty much a night vision camera.

I think when the 7D gets raw that it will be the real winner.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on June 01, 2013, 12:12:09 AM
Great job putting this together, especially the one stop shop zip file that you keep updated!

you're welcome dude! How you enjoy it :)

I think when the 7D gets raw that it will be the real winner.

Ha! Yeah - my 7D is sat in the corner looking very ashamed and sorry for itself right now  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on June 01, 2013, 12:23:35 AM
Challenge: go shoot some wonderful raw footage with your 6D and post it here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5947.msg43817;topicseen#msg43817

 8)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: DimonCJ on June 01, 2013, 12:51:13 AM
I have solved my problem by changing sd card. I was going through 2 to 8.5 steps on new card (Transcend 32 Gb cl10 fat32). Other steps (9-15) i have done on old one, Adata SDXC 64 gb UHS-I exfat. noisyboy, thank you for help!

Audiometers doesnt work on [113] H264CrashFix.zip, [113] Deleting.zip, but it has been working on ml for 1.1.2 from noisyboy archive. As well raw recording has stopped working after downloading a new version [113] Deleting.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: 1% on June 01, 2013, 12:55:41 AM
Turn on audio in canon menu or use wav. I just tested both and meters come on.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: fotojohni on June 01, 2013, 01:30:30 AM
I was freaking out when I had an important shoot and audio wasn't working, took me a while to trouble shoot.  I think for the release candidate audio should default to on when you turn off and on the camera.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on June 01, 2013, 01:59:27 AM
I have solved my problem by changing sd card. I was going through 2 to 8.5 steps on new card (Transcend 32 Gb cl10 fat32). Other steps (9-15) i have done on old one, Adata SDXC 64 gb UHS-I exfat. noisyboy, thank you for help!

Audiometers doesnt work on [113] H264CrashFix.zip, [113] Deleting.zip, but it has been working on ml for 1.1.2 from noisyboy archive. As well raw recording has stopped working after downloading a new version [113] Deleting.

Amazing! Glad to hear it and you're welcome (although I think it was uglydunking who suggested you use another card so I can't take all the credit). Version in the zip should be [113] NewRes [no raw con].zip as of this morning and haven't had trouble with it stopping dude. Sorry if I misunderstand you  :)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: 1% on June 01, 2013, 04:10:03 AM
Doesn't default to either on or off. Flush rate and wav do turn it off, they have to thus far.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: fotojohni on June 01, 2013, 06:38:43 AM
yes i understand this.  The issue I have had is when you turn off raw and gop/flush the sound stays off.  Thus prompting noobs like me to scour the ML menu for a way to turn it back on.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: random on June 01, 2013, 09:22:52 AM
Finally I figured out my RAW workflow now after a half of a day problems with AFX CS4 (32*) on a 64bit system. But now I can shoot almost endless in 1600x600 and even pushed up to 1920 it just looks astonishing in detail and colors.
Which settings in post are recommendable for RAW?

Should I sharp it more than usual (amount 25/radius 1,0/detail 25/mask 0) or better not?
How about saturation, and which white balance do you use? the automatic makes the purple-shift so I mostly take 5500 Kelvin if it's in sun light?

Exporting from AFX in losless .AVI or better in MJPEG what I read somewhere?
And from Premiere exporting normally into h.264 or what is the final codec?

questions over questions  ::)
thanks for help!
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on June 01, 2013, 02:27:31 PM
Finally I figured out my RAW workflow now after a half of a day problems with AFX CS4 (32*) on a 64bit system. But now I can shoot almost endless in 1600x600 and even pushed up to 1920 it just looks astonishing in detail and colors.
Which settings in post are recommendable for RAW?

Should I sharp it more than usual (amount 25/radius 1,0/detail 25/mask 0) or better not?
How about saturation, and which white balance do you use? the automatic makes the purple-shift so I mostly take 5500 Kelvin if it's in sun light?

Exporting from AFX in losless .AVI or better in MJPEG what I read somewhere?
And from Premiere exporting normally into h.264 or what is the final codec?

questions over questions  ::)
thanks for help!

Hey man. You don't really want any sharpening inside of ACR at all as this brings out the moire and aliasing. I find that an unsharp mask inside of After Effects is more forgiving. That or if you are going to use it instead of unsharp mask  then I'd crank the mask slider up and just pull it back a tiny bit to tast

WB is something that is completely subjective to your scene. You can use the drop down menu to select something like Tungsten or Daylight or Cloudy etc. if you know the environment you were in then this is a good place to start and then again tweak to taste. When in doubt just look at skin tones. I pull the main temperature slider until it turns blue and the pull it back until it turns yellow and then split the difference so it's neither one or the other. Same again with tint. If there is something white in your scene then you can always use the WB dropper. Something I really want to see added is a feature (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5410.msg34883#msg34883) that captures what would be the metadata and a bunch of other information regarding your scene (like a slate) that is burnt into the first frame of the video but I need someone smarter than myself to help me create it ;)

In regard to rendering this seems like you need to know a lot more about encoding in general as it depends if you want your export to be lossless at the expence of it being enormous in size and playing back on nothing or lossy which will be smaller in size and playback fine but introduce minor artefacts. You should probably google this or search the forum and research it more. If you want an editable codec that plays back great and retains a good amount of information then you can't go wrong with ProRes on a Mac or Avid DNxHD in Windows.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: ManixLiquid on June 01, 2013, 05:40:31 PM
I'm looking at 1% bitbucket download. Can't find lastest updated 6D ML files. I would like to update ML on my camera.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: kgv5 on June 01, 2013, 05:43:30 PM
Here is everything you need

https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads

Just to add to this - you'll find the latest stuff at the top of the page.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ManixLiquid on June 02, 2013, 01:00:02 AM
Ok. I downloaded the lastest update ([EOSM] Raw Recording.zip), unziped, copy and replace autoexect bin, modules and scripts. I put the sd card (sandisk 95 ext pro) back on my 6D but the camera wont starts. No red light indicating an sd card. I tried another sd card (without ML) and the camera boots. Still wont work with sandisk 95.

I had to restore previous ML version on my sandisk card to make the camera boots.

Must have done something wrong?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on June 02, 2013, 01:10:23 AM
It says EOS M
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ManixLiquid on June 02, 2013, 01:25:59 AM
It says EOS M

Grrrr. Yeah. Honest mistake. Sorry.

I downloaded the proper 113 update. Thanks.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: random on June 02, 2013, 01:46:33 AM
Hey man. You don't really want any sharpening inside of ACR at all as this brings out the moire and aliasing. I find that an unsharp mask inside of After Effects is more forgiving. That or if you are going to use it instead of unsharp mask  then I'd crank the mask slider up and just pull it back a tiny bit to tast

WB is something that is completely subjective to your scene. You can use the drop down menu to select something like Tungsten or Daylight or Cloudy etc. if you know the environment you were in then this is a good place to start and then again tweak to taste. When in doubt just look at skin tones. I pull the main temperature slider until it turns blue and the pull it back until it turns yellow and then split the difference so it's neither one or the other. Same again with tint. If there is something white in your scene then you can always use the WB dropper. Something I really want to see added is a feature (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5410.msg34883#msg34883) that captures what would be the metadata and a bunch of other information regarding your scene (like a slate) that is burnt into the first frame of the video but I need someone smarter than myself to help me create it ;)

In regard to rendering this seems like you need to know a lot more about encoding in general as it depends if you want your export to be lossless at the expence of it being enormous in size and playing back on nothing or lossy which will be smaller in size and playback fine but introduce minor artefacts. You should probably google this or search the forum and research it more. If you want an editable codec that plays back great and retains a good amount of information then you can't go wrong with ProRes on a Mac or Avid DNxHD in Windows.

Hope this helps.

Thank you a lot for your help! Well, good to know that I shouldn't sharp in Camera Raw.
You know how I can get the DnxHD codec? Won't come with Adobe, will it ;-)

Hey is it true that RAW-recordings can't skip the 4GB-limit like the h264 can do? That'd mean that the maximum recording time of a 1600x600 is not much more than 1 minute, right?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on June 02, 2013, 02:00:01 AM
6D is SD.. what 4gb limit?

fat32 is supposed to cut, I haven't tested it.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: fotojohni on June 02, 2013, 02:05:12 AM
26 hours of rendering later... :P

Where are we posting these again?
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: noisyboy on June 02, 2013, 02:18:04 AM
Thank you a lot for your help! Well, good to know that I shouldn't sharp in Camera Raw.
You know how I can get the DnxHD codec? Won't come with Adobe, will it ;-)

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Avid+dnxhd+codec ;)

No 4gb limit as long as you format to exfat and not fat32 dude.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 02, 2013, 02:24:06 AM
26 hours of rendering later... :P

Where are we posting these again?

Here dude: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5947.msg43817#msg43817

:)

Don't forget to embed it using the YouTube button so we can all view it on the forum ;)

Look forward to seeing it when I get home!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 02, 2013, 02:27:09 AM
6D is SD.. what 4gb limit?

fat32 is supposed to cut, I haven't tested it.

Sorry man - didn't see you replied.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on June 02, 2013, 06:13:26 AM
Well,

Thanks for the Avid-Link. I feel dumb now ;) Same about the exfat format.
But the exported DNxHD-file is around 6 times larger than my "normal" exported h264, is that normal?
Moreover I was not able to open it in VLC or WMP.

btw with the newest Modules and autoexe I can record 1536x646/24p up to 2GB with the hacked mode off!
(I'm using 45mb/s exfat SDHC now)
Is it possible to transmit hdmi-out even with hacked mode on actually?

Thanks for all this work! damn it, guess all Nikon and Sony users are eating their shorts right now  ;D
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 02, 2013, 06:49:00 AM
Well,

I feel dumb now ;)

lol! That wasn't my intention sorry :) Just couldn't resist!

The codec you render with all depends on what you want to do with it. Yeah the file sizes are large but it retains a great deal of information for a compressed/lossy codec but you shouldn't have much trouble playing it back inside of Premiere, Vegas, Avid,  Final Cut etc. Another great codec is the GoPro Cineform codec which you can also get for free (http://gopro.com/support/cineform-studio-software-support) but if you want to just render so you can simply play it back in a media player or upload it then you should go with mpeg4 h.264 or x.264. You can convert to this using the free software Mpeg Streamclip.

As a mod here I'd be setting a bad example if I continued this conversation and didn't suggest you research encoding elsewhere as this thread is for discussing ML and Raw shooting on the 6D not rendering (sorry man - we just want to keep the forum clean) ;)

You should have enough info to get you started there anyway and any questions regarding post processing should start here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=14.0

Cheers  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on June 02, 2013, 09:09:53 AM
Haha don't worry, I'm gonna love to give that lmgtfy-link to others in future   :P

Thank you for all infos! I hope I've found my RAW workflow now, it's still transcoding.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: someguy2 on June 02, 2013, 04:30:44 PM
When i try to shoot 720p i get crop - i mean it recs everything inside border. How can i fix it? I have last build.

(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg585%2F9985%2Fydtft9osvka.jpg&hash=a5abc0cc7a93e073af3db24a3de3c310)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Audionut on June 02, 2013, 04:39:07 PM
The same reason I gave you on IRC, because 1280x720 is a crop of the entire recording frame.

@devs, is actually cropping the live view and resizing, to processor intensive?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: a1ex on June 02, 2013, 05:04:00 PM
At 720x480, yes. At 180x240 it's better.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on June 02, 2013, 05:11:02 PM
720P in 720P will give bigger crop.

If you want to see what happens from too much CPU usage, look at 600D. Pink/magenta corruption.



I have to experiment with HDMI.. may be possible to kill other edmacs while doing HDMI or H264 even and free up some resources.

We have more "unused" memory too that has to be tapped (but can't be allocated because something took it and isn't using it)


Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Emanuel on June 02, 2013, 07:42:23 PM
I have been reading the forums for the past 2 weeks or so. I'd really like to thank the dedicated team of Developers , Moderators and users for the incredible communication and dedication to the art-form that brought us all together. I have been trying to spread the word as much as I can in regards to the latest RAW developments. Also have been testing the RAW performance on my 6D.  Thank you Noisyboy for a comprehensive installation guide. thank you 1% for your valuable input. And a1ex your coding is brilliant. I know that most of the team is in Europe, but if you end up in Michigan one day i'll buy you guys a beer or coffee  ;) 

I'll be glued to the forums , as they are more interesting then any TV series.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 02, 2013, 07:55:12 PM
I have been reading the forums for the past 2 weeks or so. I'd really like to thank the dedicated team of Developers , Moderators and users for the incredible communication and dedication to the art-form that brought us all together. I have been trying to spread the word as much as I can in regards to the latest RAW developments. Also have been testing the RAW performance on my 6D.  Thank you Noisyboy for a comprehensive installation guide. thank you 1% for your valuable input. And a1ex your coding is brilliant. I know that most of the team is in Europe, but if you end up in Michigan one day i'll buy you guys a beer or coffee  ;) 

I'll be glued to the forums , as they are more interesting then any TV series.

Cheers man :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: fotojohni on June 03, 2013, 05:28:11 PM
I don't know if this is on anyone's mind, but 12/10 bit raw would solve all of our problems.

http://francoismalan.com/2011/10/raw-12bit-or-14bit-lossy-or-lossless/  Take a look, basically, the only time you would ever, ever see a difference is if you were shooting like a total noob over exposing like 4 stops.  And even then, it's difficult to tell.  Then compare the reduction in size: http://web.forret.com/tools/video_fps.asp?width=1792&height=780&fps=24&space=raw&depth=10

Hope this isn't too crazy to do because it would pretty much make raw totally viable for us. 

Hey, I also finally figured how to use bitrate override successfully.  Getting Bitrate = 30 (just set max bitrate as the max bitrate of your card, h.264 is a variable bitrate algorithm by default, so don't load a config) and set qp = 5 for high detail scenes, no idea what benefit it has to grading, but I'll do a tutorial if you want.  Theoretically it will approach the detail of 8bit raw.

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Virindi on June 04, 2013, 12:35:06 PM
This is a crap first real test I did last evening from my window. 24fps 1472 x 672 upscaled.
Video mode stabilised handheld with a 24 - 105mm, and x5 zoom so it's 525mm! (+ crop from raw recording)
The light was bad, ISO around 1000-1600 I think, pushed the shadows to +100 so noise reduction eats a lot of details but it's still pretty awesome considering the distance.
I have to try that with my 500mm :D with my tripod though... lol

Edit: the horse isn't sick or mentally challenged, he just wouldn't move.. :)

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: cineblah on June 04, 2013, 03:39:27 PM
Raw shooting is working fine for me, but I do have some strange issues: since I've installed ML on my 6D the red light keeps on blinking when my camera is on. I can use the camera, or shoot RAW video, but I was wondering if the continuous blinking is normal?

Another thing is that when I'm in the ML menu, and don't press any buttons for a few seconds, the camera goes back into live-view automatically. Is this normal? Thanks for any pointers!
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: n8ben on June 04, 2013, 04:27:23 PM
you're welcome dude! How you enjoy it :)

Honestly ML is one of the best things Canon has going for them! lol! They should be subsidizing all of this and sending ML developers free bodies. In the mean time I plan on donating again. Very impressed with all the recent work.

Yea, shouldn't have sold 50D... CF cameras are boss and have more memory too :( Who would have thought.. now you can probably sell your 50D for $1k

One thing I won't miss about the 50D is how hot it got when recording video. It was hard to let it go though. I am primarily a stills shooter, and I think the 50D is probably the best cannon APS-C camera after the 7D for stills (especially with ML).

Challenge: go shoot some wonderful raw footage with your 6D and post it here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5947.msg43817;topicseen#msg43817

 8)

Challenge Accepted! I haven't got a clue what the work flow for RAW video is. This should be interesting...
Title: first shoot
Post by: MACKY64 on June 04, 2013, 06:26:50 PM
This is my first shoot !


24-105mm
1408x640 up to 1920x873
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on June 04, 2013, 06:30:32 PM
6D has been good for stills.. no issues there.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on June 04, 2013, 11:37:29 PM
My first RAW testvideo.


1280x720/24p, not upscaled, no color correction, no sharpened
losless AVI exported from Premiere into h.264

Does anybody know why it gets unfocused in the moment the camera moves?
It was even worse with transcoding it from DNxHD into h.264 with MPEG streamclip.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on June 05, 2013, 02:42:30 AM
Yeah I'm getting bad frames. I using a 32gb extreme pro. I turn of global draw, but cannot find hacked mode. At 1792x672 at 24p I only get 180 frames. User Kgv5 got 421 frames. I don't know why I'm getting such bad frames. If I could get any assistance from the community here to optimize like everyone else that'd be great.

Also on card R/W benchmark it only tests read and write only once each, in the screenshots here I see it being done filling up the entire page...
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ManixLiquid on June 05, 2013, 03:56:21 AM
2 questions...

Why 6D RAW video files are in full color? Even if I film in CineStyle, they still come in full colors.

How do I import raw files in Premiere? Can't find cineformDNG plug-in anywhere. I have windows 7.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on June 05, 2013, 04:43:48 AM
It looks like H264 dropped QP when it "defocused"... is that in the original?

Picture styles don't affect raw. Long frames at 720P need the memory hack and photo mode. I got AutoETTR working there and now have 23.976... but it doesn't seem to help shutter speeds any over 24.

I put NR on don't click me for now, it gets un-busy faster.

Also found out you can monitor via wifi with almost no drop in photo mode. It takes a tiny bit out of the 7th chunk.
Looks green with uniwb.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: mikez104 on June 05, 2013, 05:03:48 AM
First I'd like to say thanks to 1% for all the work he is putting into this project.  This is awesome!  And thanks noisyboy for the tutorial.  I was wondering how to install ML on my 6D and I found this thread and was psyched.  I followed your instructions and did it with 0 issues. 

I do have one question.  I want to use several different SD cards.  Do I have to follow the whole process again to install on the other cards?  I did the whole downgrade and upgrade process when I installed it.  Do I do that again for another card? 

Thanks again
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on June 05, 2013, 05:12:42 AM
You just have to have files on all SD cards and make them all bootable... it runs off the card.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on June 05, 2013, 05:13:41 AM
First I'd like to say thanks to 1% for all the work he is putting into this project.  This is awesome!  And thanks noisyboy for the tutorial.  I was wondering how to install ML on my 6D and I found this thread and was psyched.  I followed your instructions and did it with 0 issues. 

I do have one question.  I want to use several different SD cards.  Do I have to follow the whole process again to install on the other cards?  I did the whole downgrade and upgrade process when I installed it.  Do I do that again for another card? 

Thanks again

just copy the ML files for 1.1.3 (in the zip) to your other SD cards...

Edit: Dammit beat me by a second! Literally too lol
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: fotojohni on June 05, 2013, 06:26:17 PM
How do I import raw files in Premiere? Can't find cineformDNG plug-in anywhere. I have windows 7.

There are a few different camps on this one. 

First you need to convert the .raw files into a folder full of .DNGs.  I'm on a mac, so I use raw2DNG, works amazingly well.

from there, you can:

1. convert to cinemaDNG using rawenizer, seems cool, but not really my thing

--or--

2. import raw into aftereffect.  (look up a tutorial for timelapse videos with aftereffects, it's really easy once you get the hang of it)

   2a when importing into aftereffects, ACR will pop up for the first frame.  This is AWESOME.  ACR is a beast program and lets you expand   dynamic range to absurd levels.  A few general rules when using ACR:

            i.  do not use auto anything, especially white balance.  It applies auto to everything
            ii. don't alter exposure, it uses a special algo that works on the balance of light in the frame, as that balance changes, like say when you move the camera, the exposure algo will change too.
            iii.  set sharpening to 0.  Sharpening pretty much takes the already bad moire and makes it worse.  I recommend using denoise.

3. use bridge to convert to jpeg.  import into premiere.  (worst way, makes colors look washed and generally bad, but, it's the most space efficient)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on June 06, 2013, 01:13:05 AM
It looks like H264 dropped QP when it "defocused"... is that in the original?

No it's not, at least far away from this extreme. What u mean by QP, and do you have any idea to fix that?
If I export to DNxHD and transcode to H264 by Streamclip it's even worse.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on June 06, 2013, 01:34:33 AM
Quantizer of the video was raised in H264... check how you set up the encode. Too much detail in the frame and it lowers quality to keep within whatever rates you set... just like canon, lol.

x264vfw always gave me good results... I think a lot of stuff is pulled from new ffmpeg builds (which I think streamclip uses)... they decided the codecs were better standalone or something stupid like that.

Also make sure the dnxHD looks good so you're not losing it there.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: mikez104 on June 06, 2013, 02:59:50 AM
You just have to have files on all SD cards and make them all bootable... it runs off the card.

Thanks!  Worked like a charm.  Now I just have to fiddle with the settings to get some respectable resolutions.  So far I can't get continuous above 768x432.  My card that I am testing on is an 8G sandisk ultra.  Says 30MB/s but I'm doubting that.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on June 06, 2013, 03:16:06 AM
Sandisk 30Mb/s is fail on UHS (and C10), you're not the first person to say it sucks.... that resolution is below 600D
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on June 06, 2013, 03:48:12 AM
Quote
Quantizer of the video was raised in H264... check how you set up the encode. Too much detail in the frame and it lowers quality to keep within whatever rates you set... just like canon, lol

I understand.
I've tried different settings now, but still don't get any change. Even with maximum bitrate of 20 or higher I get the same unfocus, maybe a little bit less, not sure. I'm using the Premiere 720p preset, just raising the bitrate a little.

Am I the only one with this result?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: mikez104 on June 06, 2013, 05:00:42 AM
Sandisk 30Mb/s is fail on UHS (and C10), you're not the first person to say it sucks.... that resolution is below 600D

It sucks on a good day..  Yeah, highest speed with the benchmark is 13.8  :P  Best I have is a Lexar 16G pro 400x and it only does ~23MB/s. 
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: krausmedia on June 06, 2013, 06:05:26 AM
Here's my first little 6D tests at different resolutions. I guess you could hardly call them tests....mainly just shooting around at whatever was near me at the moment.

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on June 06, 2013, 06:06:21 AM
Don't render H264 from premier.. try some intermediate. It never looked right rendering from AE to H264. Running it through virtual dub was winner for compression + quality.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Audionut on June 06, 2013, 06:29:39 AM
Running it through virtual dub was winner for compression + quality.

I'd prefer to use MeGui or Handbrake myself (x264 in a command line actually).  Any recent (circa 2002 and newer) codec requires a hack to get it into the AVI container with VirtualDub.

IMO, the highest quality should be attained with rendering the DNG's to TIFF, and using Avisynth with ImageSource (http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/ImageSource) to encode directly to x264.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on June 06, 2013, 06:44:56 AM
The batch tools on here do a decent job, best video is of course from the tiffs but they are like 40gb for a fairly short sequence.

I don't like handbrake but didn't know that about virtualdub, videos from it do seem to play back. Haven't had any issues.. yet.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Emanuel on June 06, 2013, 07:13:31 PM
1792x752 using a class 10 Trancend card - non UHS :( recording one second at the time - Editing RAW-DNG-DPX-H264 needless to say I almost filled a 32G card with the footage for this video - and the editing took more then 15 hours. But if you play this at 1080 i guess there's almost an unnoticeable difference with the "baby" RED Scarlet. A little birdie has told me that a major advertising company has made such a comparison in between a modded ML 5DM3 and a RED Epic , and from what i understand their conclusion was that the difference wile still there is unnoticeable. 
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on June 07, 2013, 02:01:02 AM
1792x752 using a class 10 Trancend card - non UHI :( recording one second at the time - Editing RAW-DNG-DPX-H264 needless to say I almost filled a 32G card with the footage for this video - and the editing took more then 15 hours. But if you play this at 1080 i guess there's almost an unnoticeable difference with the "baby" RED Scarlet. A little birdie has told me that a major advertising company has made such a comparison in between a modded ML 5DM3 and a RED Epic , and from what i understand their conclusion was that the difference wile still there is unnoticeable. 

Smoking is bad. Nice vid xD
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: kgv5 on June 07, 2013, 07:57:51 AM
Quality is really awesome  :D
Almost couldn't see aliasing or moire, those fast cuts looks great - this shows how the good idea can make technical issues less visible  :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: someguy2 on June 07, 2013, 12:26:14 PM
offtop:  after installing magic lantern i faced with DAT problem. Sometimes in normal video mode it says "video record has been stoped automaticly" (buffer overflow) + adds .dat file. Is it Magic Lantern case? I tried 6 differnt sd cards and 2 battaries - its not the case of hardware i am pretty sure about it. Can u figure it out, please?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: a1ex on June 07, 2013, 02:50:55 PM
May I remind you to fill this chart?

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6215
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Vira on June 07, 2013, 11:09:32 PM
Is there any word on the best card, without going overboard on like a 95 Mbps card, to get the max write speed? My card currently maxes 31 Mbps and I want the 40. 
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on June 07, 2013, 11:23:51 PM
Hands down is the SanDisk extreme series.  They are 45mb/s and give the same performance at high resolution.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on June 08, 2013, 01:14:15 AM
1536x656/25fps upscaled to 1080p


Can anybody tell me the right workflow going with TIFFs?
I'm not sure if DNG>TIFF16bit>losless AVI>DNxHD 10 bit>h264 brings any real difference to DNG>losless AVI>DNxHD 8 bit>h264?

Thanks
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on June 08, 2013, 01:31:09 AM
1536x656/25fps upscaled to 1080p


Can anybody tell me the right workflow going with TIFFs?
I'm not sure if DNG>TIFF16bit>losless AVI>DNxHD 10 bit>h264 brings any real difference to DNG>losless AVI>DNxHD 8 bit>h264?

Thanks

Just use adobe camera raw to edit your photos, export them as Tiffs in the same folder and then open them up in whichever video software that is capable of stitching those frames together. Virtual Dub (windows only) or quicktime pro works good. I'm not to much of an after effects guy but I know that software is professional as hell and can easily do that job too. Its just that after effects is sooo hard to use, I have no idea what the hell I'm doing.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on June 08, 2013, 02:40:07 AM
Yeah I can open them in AFX, no problem, but if I wanna edit my footage, in which format I'm supposed to export it to get it over to Premiere? To losless AVI "16bit" (that still uses 16.7mio of colours)?

And what do I export from Premiere then, DNxHD 10 bit?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on June 08, 2013, 03:07:34 AM
Yeah I can open them in AFX, no problem, but if I wanna edit my footage, in which format I'm supposed to export it to get it over to Premiere? To losless AVI "16bit" (that still uses 16.7mio of colours)?

And what do I export from Premiere then, DNxHD 10 bit?

I'm not a codec master but just export with the highest quality codec possible then important to premiere then export with an intermediate codec. Intermediate meaning a balance between quality and file size. Prores does this well along with dnxhd. Cineform apparently is nice also.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Emanuel on June 08, 2013, 07:14:55 PM
Yeah I can open them in AFX, no problem, but if I wanna edit my footage, in which format I'm supposed to export it to get it over to Premiere? To losless AVI "16bit" (that still uses 16.7mio of colours)?

And what do I export from Premiere then, DNxHD 10 bit?

I use DPX (sequence) it's about 5Megs per frame - it even gives me a warning in AE that the format may be too much for what i'm trying to save - and then all the NLEs use proxies so if you have a decent computer you're good to go. I would not recommend a laptop for this :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: jankyy on June 08, 2013, 10:40:34 PM
hi there,

and thanks a lot for the install guide, worked fine for me!

now i do understand that everybody is working hard on getting the 'raw' thing going. however, i will do some 'regular' .h264 shooting for a job soon. i woud love to use ML for the other features, but i'm a bit anxious if i will get the encoding settings right (never quite got the Bitrate / InitQP / ConfigSelect thing).

i have a 6D with SanDisk Extreme Pro 32GB (95MB/s)

can anyone give me simple advise, what would be a 'safe' setup (or should i even revert to the canon default 'all-i'?) 'safe' is more important for me now than to squeeze the last bit of information out of the frame...

thanks! jan

p.s.: i get a little confused by the wording in the 'user guide', since it doesn't exactly seem to match the latest ML encoding menu...
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: shdster on June 08, 2013, 11:26:30 PM
One question - which card is right now the best for ML @ 6D? :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Gobian on June 08, 2013, 11:52:30 PM
Jankyy, my humble opinion (I´ve got like you a 6D and a Sandisk Extreme Pro 32Gb) is if you are using the camera for work or you need safety then get a few of these ones:
http://www.amazon.com/Transcend-Class-Flash-Memory-TS32GSDHC10E/dp/B003VNKNF0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1370727865&sr=8-2&keywords=sd+card (http://www.amazon.com/Transcend-Class-Flash-Memory-TS32GSDHC10E/dp/B003VNKNF0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1370727865&sr=8-2&keywords=sd+card)

Which are round 25$ and use them for work (I´ve got 8 of those), then for testing ML I use the Sandisk Ext. Pro. If it is really not essential for your work (just yet) to record RAW footage, then have a couple at least of cards so you can switch them.

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: nativeridge on June 09, 2013, 02:02:35 AM
First up, thanks noisyboy for the VERY CLEAR install guide - makes a world of difference to be able to step through the process with confidence due to the attention to detail you provided

Received my 6D five days ago and nervous anticipation to get ML on it has now changed to looking through the menu and looking forward to trying out all these exciting functions [may not use them all, but better to have than have not  ;D]

Only thing I saw that initially appeared was 'script dir missing' but quick search of forum and placing a SCRIPTS folder within ML folder and that's sorted

TY 1% and all the other people putting time in to develop this, all very exciting and given time who knows may be able to contribute something....


Quick question "Can I just copy and paste everything from the card I am using now onto my spare card, so if I swap them ML is ready to go?!"

Obviously after I have formatted the spare card before pasting that data......



Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: rightcore on June 09, 2013, 09:27:09 AM
Thanks for the great effort for the raw shooting.
These days I'm taking the movie with the RAW setting and satisfying the quality.


However there are two limitation when I record.

First one is the sound recording.
When I set the video resolution as low, both recording of sound and video is OK. However, when I increase the resolution(1280x720), the recording is quickly stopped. Is there any plan for the improvement?

Second one is the green blinking(?).
The brightest or darkest dots are represented as green.
I thinks that it is a kind of overflow of the pixel value..
Is there any thing that I should check?

Thanks.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Ian on June 09, 2013, 04:05:47 PM
Having chosen the 6D over the 5D mark3 I must say I inwardly groaned when I heard about the new raw video capability. But all these 6d videos have cheered me a lot!

1792 x 1008  for 5 seconds is just enough for most situations I might need. It`s a shame that Canon disabled the remote control facility for video in the 6D though. After physically  pressing the record button the camera needs a second or so for the vibration to dampen, making it only 3 or 4 seconds perhaps. Does Magic Lantern have a remote control video function in the pipeline for the 6D (or even a self-timer function) or is that just wishful thinking?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: b0fh on June 09, 2013, 04:41:45 PM
holy moly... just installed this on the 6D and it works very well... that was real quick! the installation is a bit convoluted, but works like a charm. kudos to anyone involved, now I will be using the 6d more instead of the old 50D as I am addicted to the interface tweaks on ML.

2 quickies:

1- as I do not do video, can I safely disable the 'modules autoload on startup'? those things seem to be all video related. or it does not matter?

2- the 'grayed' things in the menu are things that do not work yet, right?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Gobian on June 09, 2013, 05:22:46 PM
I have been editing the first tests I did few days ago, here are some shots using 6D+ML Raw Video, shots are at different resolutions as they were part of the tests.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Virindi on June 09, 2013, 05:51:46 PM
Looks great!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Gobian on June 09, 2013, 05:55:26 PM
Cheers!  ;)
I´ve done some more editing without touching saturation in ACR (the previous one I desaturated and lower vibrance quite a lot) of the shots I took the other day.

All were indoors and some of them not much light in the room (couple of torch that my kids were playing around)

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: electrichobo on June 09, 2013, 08:13:20 PM
Where are we at as far as ratio vs continuous shooting?  I'd like to work on filling in the "matrix" chart that's been floating around but would like to start at where we see our tops right now.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on June 09, 2013, 09:54:35 PM
Cheers!  ;)
I´ve done some more editing without touching saturation in ACR (the previous one I desaturated and lower vibrance quite a lot) of the shots I took the other day.

Hey in which format did you export from AFX? WHat is 422 QT? It's not ProRes, is it?

electrichobo: I'm doing fine shooting continously with 1536x656 upscaled to 1080. Recording without sound and without hacked mode.
I don't like 16:9 format and would prefer 2:34, but this 2:35 is almost the same.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Gobian on June 09, 2013, 10:00:00 PM
Hi Random, from AE I choose Quicktime (QT) Format: Uncompressed 10bit 4:2:2 (this basically is a MOV file uncompressed) then I take that in premiere and export as quicktime mp4 (h264) for uploading to Vimeo.

I´m on a PC so no ProRes for me I believe (at least as far as I know only Mac can use it). :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on June 09, 2013, 10:19:08 PM
I understand, nice. Does it have any advantage exporting QT 10bit uncompressed instead of losless AVI?

I can export AVI in 10bit, too, can't I?

How many colours does 10bit use, 16,7mio or more?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Gobian on June 09, 2013, 10:49:22 PM
Hi, well I don´t really know that, I´m using QT, because it doesn´t give any problems really :) Probably losless AVI is as good or better, but honestly I have not try AVIs.

The fact that is 10 bit or 8 for me at that point is a bit useless, as where I take advantage of the amount of info  store in the raw files is in Adobe Camera Raw, then once I ´ve done all the adjustments for colour and lighting in AE I export it  to Premiere to edit the shots and render out to something that Vimeo can swallow. :)

All this is just for the tests, as been able to adjust the footage with ACR is just pretty new :) With standard (no raw) footage usually I would do the opposite, import into premiere first, edit and then colour grade it, but since only AE allow me to import dng I start from there instead of premiere.

I´ve just done a quick search these could help you with the amount of colours stored in the files regarding if 8bits, 10bits, 12bits, etc...

http://www.techhive.com/article/171223/10_bit_color.html (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/Hi, well I don´t really know that, I´m using QT, because it doesn´t give any problems really :) Probably losless AVI is as good or better, but honestly I have not try AVIs.  The fact that is 10 bit or 8 for me at that point is a bit useless, as where I take advantage of the amount of info  store in the raw files is in Adobe Camera Raw, then once I ´ve done all the adjustments for colour and lighting in AE I export it  to Premiere to edit the shots and render out to something that Vimeo can swallow. :)  All these is just for the tests, as been able to work straight with ACR with footage is just pretty new :) With normal (no raw footage) usually I would do the opposite, import into premiere first edit and then colour grade it, but since only AE allow me to import dng I start from there instead of premiere.   I´ve just done a quick search these could help you with the amount of colours stored in the files regarding if 8bits, 10bits, 12bits, etc...  http://www.techhive.com/article/171223/10_bit_color.html)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 10, 2013, 12:32:12 AM
One question - which card is right now the best for ML @ 6D? :)

Go for a Sandisk Extreme 45MB/s card dude. No need for anything high than that right now and they are cheap too :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on June 10, 2013, 01:01:56 AM
First time making a type of video. Usually a stills guy. First time using premiere also, excuse my terrible panning skills and manually focusing...

Its a WHOLE lot sharper when you play the original file, not after youtube compresses it even further.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 10, 2013, 02:26:25 AM
First time making a type of video. Usually a stills guy. First time using premiere also, excuse my terrible panning skills and manually focusing...

Its a WHOLE lot sharper when you play the original file, not after youtube compresses it even further.

NIIIIIIICE :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 10, 2013, 02:30:28 AM
holy moly... just installed this on the 6D and it works very well... that was real quick! the installation is a bit convoluted, but works like a charm. kudos to anyone involved, now I will be using the 6d more instead of the old 50D as I am addicted to the interface tweaks on ML.

2 quickies:

1- as I do not do video, can I safely disable the 'modules autoload on startup'? those things seem to be all video related. or it does not matter?

2- the 'grayed' things in the menu are things that do not work yet, right?

1 - Yup, you can disable if you like!

2 - Which grayed out things dude? Eg. If you look at all the stuff under global draw you might see it's grayed out but if you go to Live View and press info to cycle through the displays you will eventually get to the ML display and you can enable all the goodies like zebras focus peaking etc. Pretty much everything should work.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 10, 2013, 04:00:27 AM
Yeah I can open them in AFX, no problem, but if I wanna edit my footage, in which format I'm supposed to export it to get it over to Premiere? To losless AVI "16bit" (that still uses 16.7mio of colours)?

And what do I export from Premiere then, DNxHD 10 bit?

You might find this guide useful depending on whether or not you have a version of Creative Suite that supports Dynamic Link: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6021.msg44250#msg44250
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on June 10, 2013, 07:37:00 AM
You might find this guide useful depending on whether or not you have a version of Creative Suite that supports Dynamic Link: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6021.msg44250#msg44250

damn it, have no words  8)
thanks!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: b0fh on June 10, 2013, 03:27:29 PM
1 - Yup, you can disable if you like!

2 - Which grayed out things dude? Eg. If you look at all the stuff under global draw you might see it's grayed out but if you go to Live View and press info to cycle through the displays you will eventually get to the ML display and you can enable all the goodies like zebras focus peaking etc. Pretty much everything should work.

d'oh... had canon overlays enabled... it all works, thanks dude.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: najibmok on June 10, 2013, 05:53:42 PM

1: Download this zip file which contains all the stuff you need :

http://ge.tt/api/1/files/78ITPEi/0/blob?download


Hey noisyboy.. Thanks a million for the tutorial.. Looks like solid! I'm new to ML and the community looks awesome.

The zip in the download link doesnt seem to be there? Unless I missed some update?

Sorry I am behind a massive firewall that prevented me from the download. Once I turned on the VPN it worked!.. I'll be testing the procedure and I'll report if it works.
Thanks again! :)
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: najibmok on June 10, 2013, 06:27:18 PM
Hey noisyboy.. Thanks a million for the tutorial.. Looks like solid! I'm new to ML and the community looks awesome.

The zip in the download link doesnt seem to be there? Unless I missed some update?

Sorry I am behind a massive firewall that prevented me from the download. Once I turned on the VPN it worked!.. I'll be testing the procedure and I'll report if it works.
Thanks again! :)

Worked like mint! I got ML now on my 6D!
I'm mainly insalling it for the intervallometer feature.. to be used with a konova basic motion slider. (witout their fancy controller which I think is not worth the bucks).
I'll share videos here.. Thanks again a million guys for the tremendous work!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: paste on June 11, 2013, 12:10:03 AM
Thanks to 1% for helping unlock the 6D, and noisyboy for helping us figure out how to use it!

After updating to the latest "[113] Its New.zip" yesterday, I was able to get 7 buffers going and thus record 5-6 seconds of the good stuff (1792+). I think on the install guide you might include some pointers as to what settings the camera should be in for best performance. For example I needed to change picture format from RAW+JPG to just RAW, the various liveview options, etc... I am using a 64GB SanDisk Extreme 45Mb/s and it stays right around 39-40MB/s write speed. 

Is it just me, or does the ML interface (trashcan) seem to have a very short timer on it? If you pause while navigating through the menus for just 2-3 seconds, it closes. And it seems like the timer doesn't reset itself, if you close the interface manually, the next time you open it the timer will have less time on it. This can be particularly frustrating when navigating through the resolutions....

I also noticed the exposure preview isn't always accurate when using "Canon" liveview mode. It seems that changing the shutter speed/ISO/aperture only affects the preview after 2 or 3 full stops either way. So if you only make a small adjustment, your video may not have the exposure you expect. What is the best way to preview/control the exposure that RAW video will use?

One workflow thing I haven't seen in these threads -- if you have Apple Compressor, it has an "Add Image Sequence" function that can render to ProRes or Unompressed 8/10 bit. Going from RAWMagic to Compressor to FCPX is a pretty quick workflow, even though it's not really taking advantage of RAW, you still get a pliable clip.

Also, I am a Magic Lantern newb so I didn't realize that 5X liveview zoom actually records at that crop, giving you a 1:1 crop of the sensor and defeating the nasty moire monsters. With my 20mm lens this is actually usable, giving me something like a 60mm field of view, although the resolved detail seems to suffer a bit.

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: parry1994 on June 11, 2013, 12:48:10 PM
Hi, I'm new here at this forum.
I'm just wondering if its possible to adjust ISO or even set it to AUTO while recording raw? I couldn't find any answere yet. And yes, it does work well without using RAW in videomode. (I'm using the latest modules)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: fotojohni on June 11, 2013, 04:26:25 PM
Hi, I'm new here at this forum.
I'm just wondering if its possible to adjust ISO or even set it to AUTO while recording raw? I couldn't find any answere yet. And yes, it does work well without using RAW in videomode. (I'm using the latest modules)

don't use auto iso in raw, it will make you insane.  I have a magic 50, aka pentax 50 1.4 with a stripped aperture clicker.  That is the best option.  otherwise just adjust in post.  14 bit gives approx. 11.5 stops of usable latitude (see ETTR for why 14 bit is so much better than 8 bit) just adjust in post.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: parry1994 on June 11, 2013, 05:02:34 PM
don't use auto iso in raw, it will make you insane.  I have a magic 50, aka pentax 50 1.4 with a stripped aperture clicker.  That is the best option.  otherwise just adjust in post.  14 bit gives approx. 11.5 stops of usable latitude (see ETTR for why 14 bit is so much better than 8 bit) just adjust in post.
Yes ok, but how can i make adjustments in post of a dng sequence when i want to make a transition between a dark and a bright scene... i could just import 2 sequences (set one darker and the other one brighter when importing to the software) and then make a transition with opacity between both clips.. BUT isnt there a way to edit this on a single clip? and im still talking about RAW. I use after effects to edit
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: fotojohni on June 11, 2013, 06:39:08 PM
Yes ok, but how can i make adjustments in post of a dng sequence when i want to make a transition between a dark and a bright scene... i could just import 2 sequences (set one darker and the other one brighter when importing to the software) and then make a transition with opacity between both clips.. BUT isnt there a way to edit this on a single clip? and im still talking about RAW. I use after effects to edit

You know about the arrow button shortcuts no?  Go into magic lantern prefs, the icon looks like a camera with menu screen, enable iso and wb buttons, use iso buttons to adjust on the fly.  When I used auto iso the flicker was so annoying that it was pretty much unusable with out a lot of post processing. 
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Jagannatha on June 11, 2013, 09:05:01 PM
Hi!
I'm testing ML on my 6D. Noticed one thing - with ML installed I try to turn on Canon native HDR mode and after pressing the shoot button camera shows "busy" message without shooting a photo and stops with error. Tried it several times. I have a log file but cannot attach it right now, because I don't have a card rider here with me.
And as it was mentioned above - do something with ML menu. It automatically switches off if you don't touch any button for several seconds. 
I have a sandisk extreme pro 95 mb/s. When I try to record raw video it shows my speed is about 40 mb/s. I tested my card with a cardreader. It showed ~ 70mb/s. Why it is so slow in camera?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on June 11, 2013, 09:19:05 PM
Hi!
I'm testing ML on my 6D. Noticed one thing - with ML installed I try to turn on Canon native HDR mode and after pressing the shoot button camera shows "busy" message without shooting a photo and stops with error. Tried it several times. I have a log file but cannot attach it right now, because I don't have a card rider here with me.
And as it was mentioned above - do something with ML menu. It automatically switches off if you don't touch any button for several seconds. 
I hava sandisk extreme pro 95 mb/s. When I try to record raw video it shows my speed is about 40 mb/s. I tested my card with a cardreader. It showed ~ 70mb/s. Why it is so slow in camera?

The hardware in the camera is limited to 40. Supposedly it can go to 50 but we have yet to figure out...
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: paste on June 11, 2013, 11:25:54 PM
I hava sandisk extreme pro 95 mb/s. When I try to record raw video it shows my speed is about 40 mb/s. I tested my card with a cardreader. It showed ~ 70mb/s. Why it is so slow in camera?

The SD card controller in the 6D is limited it seems (although not as bad as other cameras). We are essentially maxing out the possible write speed. I'm just guessing, but I think our only hope for Full HD RAW is either a firmware update from Canon to improve throughput to the SD card (maybe to support some future SD cards?) or some kind of miracle from the ML team to lower frame size. There may be other options... I am hopeful that somebody comes up with a stroke of genius to address the moire in full frame recording. Maybe some combination of crop + resize hits a sweet spot where aliasing is lessend?  One thing's for sure, the 5D3 owners are feeling mighty satisfied with the added value in their purchase about now.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on June 11, 2013, 11:58:10 PM
Yea, canon HDR, image processing, etc may be busted... but who uses those crap functions... just boot magic off.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: shdster on June 12, 2013, 12:46:45 AM
Go for a Sandisk Extreme 45MB/s card dude. No need for anything high than that right now and they are cheap too :)

Thanks noisyboy for information and whole your work here;) Could you tell me which files should i download to get the newest version of raw module? I've installed version from "ML For 6D with RAW Shooting 01-06-2013.rar, and downloaded [113] Its New.zip, but when i unzipped it into SD card, ML loading without any modules... what i am doing wrong ?:)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on June 12, 2013, 12:49:23 AM
Thanks noisyboy for information and whole your work here;) Could you tell me which files should i download to get the newest version of raw module? I've installed version from "ML For 6D with RAW Shooting 01-06-2013.rar, and downloaded [113] Its New.zip, but when i unzipped it into SD card, ML loaded without any modules... what i am doing wrong ?:)

Drag the autoexec file into your root directory. Then put the "modules folder" inside the "ML" folder. Tell windows to merge the files. Do the same with the "Scripts" folder (Put it in the "ML" Folder).
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: shdster on June 12, 2013, 01:52:53 AM
Thanks :) Now it's good :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: consmi on June 12, 2013, 05:15:24 AM
Hey I'm kinda new to this forum. Just downloaded ML on my 6D (thanks noisyboy). Couple questions.
1) When recording 720p RAW, is there any way to make the "crop area" fullscreen rather than just a mark on the window?
2) Is 720p RAW better than h.264 1080p? At what resolution does RAW become pointless compared to h.264?
3) What can I do to help further the development? I'm no good at writing software/porting or anything, but if there is anything I can do just tell me.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on June 12, 2013, 06:47:34 AM
Hey I'm kinda new to this forum. Just downloaded ML on my 6D (thanks noisyboy). Couple questions.
1) When recording 720p RAW, is there any way to make the "crop area" fullscreen rather than just a mark on the window?
2) Is 720p RAW better than h.264 1080p? At what resolution does RAW become pointless compared to h.264?
3) What can I do to help further the development? I'm no good at writing software/porting or anything, but if there is anything I can do just tell me.

1) Not of now but 1% may be able to implement, you should request it in the 6D development section in the forum category "New Ports".
2) 720p RAW is better than h.264 1080p. There have been comparisons (can't seem to remember), check in the shared video sections. Find one done by a t2i t3i 60d etc. they should be recording at or below 720p and it's still better.
3) This question I may not be suited to answer but from my noob perspective I can say that you could help by just simply using the newest versions and reporting your crash logs when you get em'.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: nsoderi on June 13, 2013, 01:24:51 AM
Hello Kraig,

I have just followed your "noobs" guide and worked just great.

Tried only once and success.

Tip to everyone, when he says to formate the SDCard, really do it from Windows.

Thanks!


SODERI
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 13, 2013, 02:34:49 AM
Cool glad to hear it! You're welcome dude  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Emanuel on June 13, 2013, 03:01:46 AM
new video shot at 2624x928. was only able to get 14 frames before it stopped ( and again no tripod  :-X ). A little editing made it all a bit better (i hope) . i know i could have skipped frames but i was just interested to see how 14 frames - expanded would look like 
and here is the Vimeo link
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: parry1994 on June 13, 2013, 07:00:19 PM
You know about the arrow button shortcuts no?  Go into magic lantern prefs, the icon looks like a camera with menu screen, enable iso and wb buttons, use iso buttons to adjust on the fly.  When I used auto iso the flicker was so annoying that it was pretty much unusable with out a lot of post processing.

Yes i know that, It works perfectly when i record normal video, and I just found out it only works when i DISABLE memory hack in the RAW settings... ENABLE means for me: when i press any arrowbutton, it doesnt change ISO at all, and I cant stop recording anymore... So the 6D pretty much crashes and I have to turn the power button OFF. This doesnt happen when I disable "Memory Hack"
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: kgv5 on June 13, 2013, 08:16:38 PM
I think that we reached the point where we have just to think what to shoot and not how to increase and increase the quality. IMO 1794x 750 with 107%ish of upscale is almost perfect for most things, way better than h264 and 11-12 seconds of recording is very usable. Shooting raw requires planning - nobody can afford to record hours of rubish footage, we cannot trim the clips in the field like with stock 264. If someone doesn't record interviews 10-15 seconds of continous recording would be enough for him. On this forum there is a music video made of one second clips- its brilliant and the quality is awesome- just cinema like. Having 10-15 seconds for me is great and enough for some commercial stuff, music videos etc.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: parry1994 on June 13, 2013, 08:43:29 PM
I think that we reached the point where we have just to think what to shoot and not how to increase and increase the quality.

You are right. If someone really needs to record longer, has to get a 5D with CF slot. But still, it's not even in alpha for the 6D, so I expect more to come, even though this is already amazaing what the ML-team created so far!
Big respect to you guys
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Ian on June 14, 2013, 03:02:27 PM
Hi Noisyboy,

I tried the install and got the green success message at stage 7, but no ML on pressing the trash button after stage 15 :(

I did notice that formatting the card in pc in stage 8 wiped all the files off the card. Was it supposed to do that?

In stage 11 you wrote "once again extract EOScard.exe" but that`s the first time I did that as it appears to be the first time it`s mentioned in the proceedure.

The second two paragraphs are only mentioned to give you possible pointers about where I might have gone wrong.

I`m using a San Disk Extreme Pro 16gb 45mb/sec.

Many thanks


Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on June 14, 2013, 08:30:34 PM
Hi Noisyboy,

I tried the install and got the green success message at stage 7, but no ML on pressing the trash button after stage 15 :(

I did notice that formatting the card in pc in stage 8 wiped all the files off the card. Was it supposed to do that?

In stage 11 you wrote "once again extract EOScard.exe" but that`s the first time I did that as it appears to be the first time it`s mentioned in the proceedure.

The second two paragraphs are only mentioned to give you possible pointers about where I might have gone wrong.

I`m using a San Disk Extreme Pro 16gb 45mb/sec.

Many thanks

I think you didn't make your SD card bootable on the computer. Do this by running EOScard.exe

Also formatting cards always delete the existing files on the storage device.

1%, where is the audio sync beep setting located?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: nativeridge on June 14, 2013, 11:15:02 PM
You certain you didn't format at this step?

12: Navigate to your SD Card and delete (DON'T FORMAT) all the files you can see there.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on June 14, 2013, 11:16:07 PM
This way worked fine for me, did you do it any differently?

Quote
1.)  Format SD-card
2.)  Put Canon Firmware 1.1.2 on card and install on camera in "M"-mode and with full battery
3.)  Format SD-card

4.)  Copy all files in folder "to run on 1.1.2" on the card
5.)  run EOScard.exe, activate "EOS_develop" and "bootdisk" and click "safe"
6.)  Install MagicLantern on camera in "M"-mode and with full battery
7.)  Format SD-card

8.)  Put Canon Firmware 1.1.3 on card and install on camera in "M"-mode and with full battery
9.)  Put all files in folder "to run on 1.1.3" on the card
10.) run EOScard.exe, activate "EOS_develope" and "bootdisk" and click "safe"
11.) Delete (don't format!) all files on your sd-card

12.) Again, put all files in folder "to run on 1.1.3" on the card

(I don't really know the avantage of step 11, but I took it from noisyboys tutorial)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Ian on June 15, 2013, 10:12:42 AM
I got it working to start with (following Random`s list) but then ML disappeared and I cannot call it up using the trash button. Instead I get a message above the Menus: "Scripts dir missing".

Just as an aside, your no 5 action ("run EOScard.exe, activate "EOS_develop" and "bootdisk" and click "safe") is not in noisyboy`s list on page one.
Your list`s step 9 is also not in Noisyboy`s list. "Files in folder "to run on 1.1.3"" are only put once to the card in his list.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Ian on June 15, 2013, 11:13:39 AM
Anyway I discovered that by reformatting the card (and keeping rather than removing ML) I can call up ML again from the trash button. But the above error message is still there at the top and sooner or later ML freezes and I have to power down and take the battery out. I got a bit scared of damaging the original Canon firmware and reformatted, this time removing ML permanently. I`ll try another card.  :(
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Ian on June 15, 2013, 11:28:04 AM
So I put a San Disk Extreme 8gb 30mb/s card in*. No reaction. No menu. Nothing. Removed battery and replaced. Nothing. My 32gb card works but only after I`ve removed the battery. I didn`t need to do that before today.

* This card has ML from the Canon 600D on it. I don`t know if that is what stops the 6D reacting.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Jagannatha on June 15, 2013, 01:25:24 PM
If i select 1280-60-ALL-I in Canon menu and try to record a video it stops after a second and I have to remove the battery to recover the camera. Also tried to set FPS override to 60. I can do it by the result is the same. Am I doing something wrong?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: nativeridge on June 15, 2013, 10:06:46 PM
* This card has ML from the Canon 600D on it. I don`t know if that is what stops the 6D reacting.
Think you are shooting yourself in the foot Ian  :o There is no mention of being able to work with other data on a card!!!!!
Joining IRC may be best way to work through this with someone to get a result for you
(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNvd2CML.png&hash=96b7bf9ba31076af982c577df477b252)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on June 15, 2013, 10:10:26 PM
Quote
1%, where is the audio sync beep setting located?

Should be in raw rec, sound > separate wav -> sync beep.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Ian on June 15, 2013, 11:25:27 PM
Quote
There is no mention of being able to work with other data on a card!!!!!
I didn't expect it to work with a previous version of ML for a different camera. It just alarmed me that the camera wouldn`t react at all to being turned on, with that card in, and at random other times with other cards. I`ve since discovered there`s a Camera Emergency forum here where there are similar stories of dead cameras or cameras that needed workarounds to boot up on turning on.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 16, 2013, 02:27:49 AM
I didn`t expect it to work with a previous version of ML for a different camera. It just alarmed me that the camera wouldn`t react at all to being turned on, with that card in, and at random other times with other cards. I`ve since discovered there`s a Camera Emergency forum here where there are similar stories of dead cameras or cameras that needed workarounds to boot up on turning on.

Sorry Ian - been busy dude, where are you now with getting ML working?

Ps. I think this guide  could do with a solid update and the files in the zip could do with updating also which I intend to do hopefully in the next day or two so just bare with me while the dust settles on a couple things and I'll try and make life easier for anyone that intends to join the party  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on June 16, 2013, 02:39:31 AM
If you put different ML on the card or leave the card bootable with no bin it will block start and you have to pull card + battery. It has been that way on all cameras for a while.. 1/2 canon (bootable no bin), 1/2 us (signature doesn't match)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Ian on June 16, 2013, 09:34:42 AM
Thanks guys.
I`ve put this on hold for a bit and will happily bear with you. I`m sure it wil be worth the slight wait.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 19, 2013, 04:07:43 AM
This way worked fine for me, did you do it any differently?

(I don't really know the avantage of step 11, but I took it from noisyboys tutorial)

Advantage of this is that if you were to format the card instead of simply deleting and replacing the files put on there by EOScard - you would have an SD card that you cannot boot ML from. Basically - formatting the card makes it un-bootable which we don't want :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 19, 2013, 04:11:42 AM
I didn't expect it to work with a previous version of ML for a different camera. It just alarmed me that the camera wouldn`t react at all to being turned on, with that card in, and at random other times with other cards. I`ve since discovered there`s a Camera Emergency forum here where there are similar stories of dead cameras or cameras that needed workarounds to boot up on turning on.


Basically if you try and put a card in that has a different version of ML on (as in from another camera) it wont work as it's incompatible. Not booting is expected. It sounds like you might not have upgraded back to firmware 1.1.3 after setting the bootflag. What firmware is your camera on buddy?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 19, 2013, 04:48:01 AM
Updated the zip in the guide with latest build as of this evening. Should be a pretty boss build - props 1% for kicking ass for fun. Was gonna try and tidy up the guide a bit more but a) it works and b) we are getting closer to being able to install ML without having to go through the pain of downgrading first which will need a big re-write anyway. Of course this will be sorted when Coutts gets time as of course (as always) this is all done in peoples spare time after all so please just hold tight those of you who are waiting for a more simple solution :)

Cheeeers!  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on June 19, 2013, 05:37:26 AM
You're talking about the two [6D]-zips on bitbucket page?
What is bolt recording and is the name "dont load all modules" a joke? 
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: aphex on June 19, 2013, 05:57:47 AM
So there is no way to record 1080p with the 6D right now? Is this a camera issue or a SD card issue? Possibly fixed with ML in the future or do we need faster cards? Maybe we are just screwed?

What is the largest res people are getting @ 24?

thanks!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on June 19, 2013, 06:24:37 AM
So there is no way to record 1080p with the 6D right now? Is this a camera issue or a SD card issue? Possibly fixed with ML in the future or do we need faster cards? Maybe we are just screwed?

What is the largest res people are getting @ 24?

thanks!

We are screwed as far as continuous 1080p but we can get 20 seconds of 1792 x 672. You need a 45mb/s card. If we get access to the CPU of the camera we can get 12 and 10 bit raw which sacrifices minimally as far as picture quality goes but allows us to get probably 20 seconds plus of 1920x720. If we learn how to replace the IC (Card writing printed circuit board) and rewrite the firmware we can obtain higher write speeds than the 40mb/s cap and get (I think) continuous 1080p or somewhat very close. Definitely continuous 1920 by 900<.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Audionut on June 19, 2013, 08:31:16 AM
If we get access to the CPU of the camera we can get 12 and 10 bit raw which sacrifices minimally as far as picture quality goes but allows us to get probably 20 seconds plus of 1920x720.

Bitdepth reduction is not possible.  It's got nothing to do with being able to access the CPU.  The CPU is to slow.

If we learn how to replace the IC (Card writing printed circuit board) and rewrite the firmware we can obtain higher write speeds than the 40mb/s cap and get (I think) continuous 1080p or somewhat very close. Definitely continuous 1920 by 900<.

That's a big IF!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on June 19, 2013, 08:42:36 AM
Bitdepth reduction is not possible.  It's got nothing to do with being able to access the CPU.  The CPU is to slow.

That's a big IF!

Oh I thought that was the case as far as bitdepth reduction.

Yeah, really small chance, I agree.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Gobian on June 19, 2013, 09:50:10 AM
As xNineLives has pointed, I have been able to record 1920x816 (2:39) and over if you choose zoom x5, not more than 8 secs at that res, but for me enough to get a shot. Continuous recording is another matter, which like everyone is saying for our 6D seems pretty difficult to archive.

Without going to crop mode I think we can not go further than 1792x752 (2:39) and I am getting round 11-12 secs, which is not bad either, upscaling that to 1080p you get pretty good results.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on June 19, 2013, 09:02:54 PM
Can we get a true 1:2,34-format back please?
Before the last update I got it, but right now it just gives 1:2,35.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: darkstarr on June 22, 2013, 06:01:29 AM
Updated the zip in the guide with latest build as of this evening. Should be a pretty boss build - props 1% for kicking ass for fun. Was gonna try and tidy up the guide a bit more but a) it works and b) we are getting closer to being able to install ML without having to go through the pain of downgrading first which will need a big re-write anyway. Of course this will be sorted when Coutts gets time as of course (as always) this is all done in peoples spare time after all so please just hold tight those of you who are waiting for a more simple solution :)

Cheeeers!  8)

noisyboy my good man, is this build including the new variable buffer? im ready to take the plunge! lol
good job team ML
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on June 22, 2013, 06:19:53 AM
noisyboy my good man, is this build including the new variable buffer? im ready to take the plunge! lol
good job team ML

Google "bit bucket tragic lantern".
Go to downloads. Download the file furthermore on the list with "[6D]".
Extract the downloaded files.
Place the auto exec into the root directory of your sd card replacing the auto exec on the given version of ML of noisy boy's.  Then drag the modules folder into the ML folder located in the root directory in your sd card. Merge and overwrite the files from noisy boy's again.

These procedures will update you to the newest version which includes the variable buffer, etc. Redo this procedure to update in future cases.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on June 22, 2013, 06:21:22 AM
As xNineLives has pointed, I have been able to record 1920x816 (2:39) and over if you choose zoom x5, not more than 8 secs at that res, but for me enough to get a shot. Continuous recording is another matter, which like everyone is saying for our 6D seems pretty difficult to archive.

Without going to crop mode I think we can not go further than 1792x752 (2:39) and I am getting round 11-12 secs, which is not bad either, upscaling that to 1080p you get pretty good results.

Thanks for agreeing. I get 30 seconds now on the newest version at 1792x672 (2.67).
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 22, 2013, 03:47:50 PM
Not yet dude - I like to try it out before I update the zip to save too many problems as I'd rather kill my camera before killing everyone else's :p

If you want though - just replace the files on the SD card  with the files from the latest 6D build on 1%'s Bitbucket and it should work fine :) Link for the Bitbucket is in the guide. I'll try and update it later but I'm on a shoot at the mo so won't be back for another 6/7 hours!

Good luck!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: b0fh on June 23, 2013, 03:17:38 PM
probably not the right place to ask, but... to use this intead of official ML on a 50D is it enough to overwrite the autoexec and modules like we do on the 6D? what is the expected firmware for the 50D?

cheers
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on June 23, 2013, 05:00:31 PM
50D has its own builds but the process is the same.. overwrite autoexec and modules
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: b0fh on June 23, 2013, 11:27:33 PM
yup, worked just fine. don't like the way 'quick erase' works in he 50D now, but I digress  ;D
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on June 24, 2013, 04:23:03 AM
my recording limits with the newest version. shot in 1536x654(2,35) / 24fps, memory hack: on.
in between each circle I took the battery out to let the camera cool down for 5 minutes.

preview canon: 1,59min - 3:05 - 2:24
preview ML grayscale: 3:02min - 2:53 - 2:38
preview hacked: 4:05min - 3:24 - 5:00 (7188 frames)

in a 4th trial of preview canon at the end, it reached up 4:56min when the camera crashed, but the file (11,6GB) is safed and usable (exported the DNGs for a check). Thank you guys, what a great work! Now it's gettin realistic shooting short movies! Awesome.
I guess all Nikon users have already eaten their shorts ;)

 
crash logs (both were created at the same time):
Quote
1)
ASSERT: err == SUCCESS
at GUI.c:679, task PropMgr
lv:1 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : v2.3.NEXT.2013Jun22.6D113
Mercurial changeset   : 221a1927aa30+6685347055ba+ (unified) tip
Built on 2013-06-22 22:24:09 by user@D610.
Free Memory  : 444K + 1458K

2)
ASSERT: IS_ERROR( Err ) == FALSE
at ./Multicast/PropertyMgr.c:50, task Evf
lv:1 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : v2.3.NEXT.2013Jun22.6D113
Mercurial changeset   : 221a1927aa30+6685347055ba+ (unified) tip
Built on 2013-06-22 22:24:09 by user@D610.
Free Memory  : 444K + 1442K

P.s. why does AFX show me 25fps although I recorded with 24?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 24, 2013, 05:22:06 AM
my recording limits with the newest version. shot in 1536x654(2,35) / 24fps, memory hack: on.
in between each circle I took the battery out to let the camera cool down for 5 minutes.

preview canon: 1,59min - 3:05 - 2:24
preview ML grayscale: 3:02min - 2:53 - 2:38
preview hacked: 4:05min - 3:24 - 5:00 (7188 frames)

in a 4th trial of preview canon at the end, it reached up 4:56min when the camera crashed, but the file (11,6GB) is safed and usable (exported the DNGs for a check). Thank you guys, what a great work! Now it's gettin realistic shooting short movies! Awesome.
I guess all Nikon users have already eaten their shorts ;)

 
crash logs (both were created at the same time):
P.s. why does AFX show me 25fps although I recorded with 24?

Did you import as a DNG sequence? It's probably because 25 is what you have set as the default framerate in your settings... Go into your AFX settings and you can change in Prefences -> Import  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Malex on June 24, 2013, 10:00:30 AM
Hi hi, thanx Noisyboy for this guide, I already had ML on my 6D since march but I haven't done any update so far.

Now I came by your post to play around with RAW :) so I formated my card and I got all the latest files, but I have one problem that I didn't have before, and that 2 other persons on this thread are complaining about, but after reading all the pages here it seems that nobody helped them with that problem : ML menu quitting by itself after 5 seconds or less  if you don't touch anything.

Are we all having this issue? If not, what should we do to fix it? Is it something in canon menu that should be off? Or in ML menu?

Another question, in the guide your are talking about the modules lv_rec.mo and raw_rec.mo
But I can also see :
- bolt.mo
- ettr.mo
- file_man.mo
- pic_view.mo
What are those modules for? Pic_view is intriging... Can we play raw files on cam...?
All those modules are set in Autoload, should we keep it this way? Or should we turn off some for best raw performance?

Thanx in advance ^_^
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on June 25, 2013, 12:47:07 AM
If you have bolt rec right now you have an older build.. I can't reproduce the crashes.. still recording tho, 27GB and counting.

The menu quitting times out with canon dialog. I think all ML is like that.

17960 frames of 1344x726, no crash in 24P  mode.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 8beeeaaat on June 25, 2013, 01:09:05 AM
Are these RAW video informations about 6D correct ?
I would like to reference these information for buying my next DSLR...
Especially, Max res for 24p continuous rec is very important for me.
What is "600+ frames" ?
Is not continuous ??

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AgQ2MOkAZTFHdFFIcFp1d0R5TzVPTVJXOEVyUndteGc&f=true&noheader=true&gid=5

Sorry about my poor English.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on June 25, 2013, 01:11:56 AM
Above was continuous, at least I hope, card filled.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 8beeeaaat on June 25, 2013, 01:49:07 AM
Above was continuous, at least I hope, card filled.

Thank you for giving a reply.
The max resolution is 1408x800 ?
I'm satisfied if I can record it at least for 10 min.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on June 25, 2013, 05:27:38 PM
I was eager to try ML on my 6D but I am not experienced. I use vintage lenses with adapters so the camera asks me to hit the start button to ensure a lens is attached anytime I turn it on. I had gone through all the steps to get ML on the sd card and turned on my camera tried the trash button and nothing. Hit my start lens and see no way to find the ML. Again, I have never used ML, but I did go through all the steps. If anyone can help me great! I am wanting to try shooting raw video and feel lost on what I am missing.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 25, 2013, 05:30:07 PM
Hey :)

So does it work with an electronic lens? Shouldn't matter. Your card is definitely made bootable with eoscard?

Also - if you get adapters that have "focus confirmation" inside them - this shouldn't be a problem. They often cost barely anymore than the regular adapters and the bonus is you can get a confirmation when you are focused correctly  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on June 25, 2013, 05:33:25 PM
I actually have no electronic lenses right now. I see the ML info on the card still when checking in my computer, but have no luck when I get the card in the camera. I must be missing something simple. I will start over from step one and keep trying. Thanks.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 25, 2013, 05:35:03 PM
I actually have no electronic lenses right now. I see the ML info on the card still when checking in my computer, but have no luck when I get the card in the camera. I must be missing something simple. I will start over from step one and keep trying. Thanks.

Have you seen the "SUCCESS" screen when you installed the boot flag?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on June 25, 2013, 05:37:15 PM
No, that is what was throwing me off. I never had anything happen on the 6D after trying the steps. But I see the right files on the card. So there is obviously something I missed.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on June 25, 2013, 05:49:25 PM
I thought when I had put the early firmware on it set the bootflag, then I put the 1.1.3 back on.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on June 25, 2013, 06:25:46 PM
I see what I missed now, hopefully have it all working this time. Sorry for pretty ignorant questions. This is my first time with ML.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 25, 2013, 06:43:20 PM
Lol! No worries dude :) We're all here to help! That's what community is all about eh  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on June 25, 2013, 06:56:20 PM
@noisyboy, thank you so much! Your guide actually gave me the confidence to finally attack this and I got it. Filmed my son playing some so I am about to try the Rawanizer out. So excited! Thanks again.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 25, 2013, 10:19:38 PM
Cool man :) make sure to get the latest rawanizer - it's always improving! So easy to use too - just just select your files and click start and everything happens for you :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on June 25, 2013, 10:27:11 PM
I will look for that new version. I have used the original in the folder and have all the DNG files now trying to find a method that works for me to convert to video.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 25, 2013, 10:59:22 PM
I will look for that new version. I have used the original in the folder and have all the DNG files now trying to find a method that works for me to convert to video.

What do you intend to do with them? Do you have After Effects/Premiere?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on June 25, 2013, 11:06:09 PM
I do have premiere/after effects. I actually found this one article where they took all the images into photoshop and correct what you want then export as tiff, so I tried that first just because it seemed easy enough. I am going to try a more elaborate way next with premiere/ae.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on June 25, 2013, 11:21:25 PM
Conveniently for you I have created a super convenient guide for just that ;)

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6021.msg44250#msg44250
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on June 25, 2013, 11:26:08 PM
Thanks again! I will start this method.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on June 26, 2013, 03:12:00 AM
works fine for me:

1) RAWanizer to export the DNG's
2) Import to AFX (16bit project) to correct the DNG in Adobe Camera Raw
3) Export to DPX Sequence 16bit ("C1neon")
4) Import into Premiere
5) Export to DNxHD 185/10bit
6) Transcode to h264 by MPEG Streamclip
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Emanuel on June 28, 2013, 08:28:54 AM
are these numbers right for----- http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008CVHLT2/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ?
i'm getting around 31mps in buffer testing
here's the .TMP https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9360008/Amtech/BENCH.TMP
and the .bmp
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9360008/Amtech/VRAM0.BMP
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: CharlieA56 on June 30, 2013, 09:02:10 AM
Maybe this has been answered a lot of times, but I can't find any answer in relation to "how to uninstall the Magic Lantern on the 6D".
I need to, because when recording normal (H264) video with the ML working, my camera crashes if the recording is longer than 15 seconds (more or less).
Thanx !
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: shdster on July 02, 2013, 07:53:07 PM
You dont need to uninstall ML. Just change bitrate in ML or put into camera card without ML (formated and no bootable). It should help :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on July 03, 2013, 02:48:31 PM
My 6D is not turning on. I tried using a 64g card and had a crash. Now I get nothing. Can anyone help? First experience with this.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on July 03, 2013, 03:01:59 PM
If you get no power the best thing to do is pull the card out, pull the battery out... then put it back and try to power on. Also try switching modes when you do that.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on July 03, 2013, 03:07:07 PM
Ok, thank you! That worked. You saved the day for me! I tried a couple different cards and nothing, but my 16g card and new battery did the trick. That was...scary.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on July 03, 2013, 03:27:12 PM
I am not sure where I might have messed up. Maybe it was trying to get ML on the 64g card. My question now is this, what are the correct steps in getting ML on another card? I am still a new ML user and I did the 6D install guide but I am wondering if anyone would care to lay out the steps for making a backup card ready to shoot with ML now that I have it running on my 6D. I started from step 8.5 on noisyboy's helpful guide to get a second card going to run ML. Is that about right? Or did I miss something that made the 6D crash.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on July 03, 2013, 03:34:51 PM
Boot flag the 64 gb card and throw the files on, that's all there is to it. Make sure you get the rest of the ML files not just whats in the release.. ie fonts, etc.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on July 03, 2013, 03:52:40 PM
I think I must have deleted an important folder that first go.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on July 03, 2013, 04:09:11 PM
I have it working, thanks again. I really appreciate all the help I have gotten on here.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: DerekDock on July 03, 2013, 07:33:12 PM
Got my new 6D in a little over an hour ago and am already up and running with ML and RAW! Thanks for the step by step Noisy and for all the killer work 1%! At first I wasn't getting long record times but after a card reformat in camera now I'm killing it! Just got 400 frames at 1792 x 762 and continuous recording at 720p which wasn't possible on my 60D.  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 8beeeaaat on July 04, 2013, 09:45:46 AM
Just got 400 frames at 1792 x 762 and continuous recording at 720p which wasn't possible on my 60D.  8)

Great ! What SD did you use??
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: canonner on July 04, 2013, 02:54:58 PM
Hi everybody,
I've bought a 6D in february an i have few questions.
1/ my 6d firmware is 1.1.3. Do i have to downgrade it to 1.1.2 to install ML?
2/ my region is PAL, i shoot only on tripod and i have a lot of stuttering on pan and tilt even when i move it very slowly
it happens also when i'm static with something/somebody is moving in the frame.It happens only with all 25p, not 30p settings.
i've tried different shutter speed 1/30, 1/50 and upper. It's the same problem. I can't go lower than 1/30 even in 25p.
my set up is a scandisk extreme pro 95mb 32g and tamron 28-75mm 2.8. I've worked with a 5dmk2 with ML last year without much problem.
Did i do something wrong? a problem with my 6d?
Thanks a lot for helping me!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: DerekDock on July 04, 2013, 06:25:23 PM

Great ! What SD did you use??

Sandisk pro 95mbs. I only have one 32gb pro and then a ton of the 30mbs ones which give me similar record times to the 60D. Need to pick up another. Should be shooting for the holiday today so ill have a new test video of the 6D tomorrow.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on July 06, 2013, 04:16:03 AM
Hi everybody,
I've bought a 6D in february an i have few questions.
1/ my 6d firmware is 1.1.3. Do i have to downgrade it to 1.1.2 to install ML?
2/ my region is PAL, i shoot only on tripod and i have a lot of stuttering on pan and tilt even when i move it very slowly
it happens also when i'm static with something/somebody is moving in the frame.It happens only with all 25p, not 30p settings.
i've tried different shutter speed 1/30, 1/50 and upper. It's the same problem. I can't go lower than 1/30 even in 25p.
my set up is a scandisk extreme pro 95mb 32g and tamron 28-75mm 2.8. I've worked with a 5dmk2 with ML last year without much problem.
Did i do something wrong? a problem with my 6d?
Thanks a lot for helping me!

Hey man.

1/ Yep - for now at least, this is the procedure. All covered in the guide in page one of this thread anyway :)

2/ Hmmm... That's an odd one. If you upload a clip of footage I'm sure we can work it out. Shutter speed being 1/50 is correct so not that.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on July 06, 2013, 04:49:28 AM
Maybe this has been answered a lot of times, but I can't find any answer in relation to "how to uninstall the Magic Lantern on the 6D".
I need to, because when recording normal (H264) video with the ML working, my camera crashes if the recording is longer than 15 seconds (more or less).
Thanx !

How fast is your SD Card? Could be a contributing factor. Did you have trouble before installing ML? Might be worth reverting ML settings back to default from inside the ML menu just to make sure you aren't accidentally smashing out some mad high bit-rates.

Try booting the camera while holding the SET button to bypass ML on boot (will make the camera boot up one time without ML).

As suggested - you can always just format your card from a computer and it wont run ML.

If you really need to clear ML completely then follow these steps (assuming you are on firmware 1.1.3):

1: Format a card (in your computer).

2: Copy the 1.1.2 Firmware from the zip in the guide on page one to the SD Card.

3: Pop the SD Card back in the camera and run firmware "updater" 1.1.2 to downgrade the firmware.

4: Power off camera and put SD Card back in computer.

5: Delete Firmware 1.1.2 from the Card.

6: Run EOScard from the zip in step one of the guide on page 1 of this thread.

7: Delete (don't format) the files on the card.

8: Copy the contents of the folder "Files to run Magic Lantern on 6D Firmware 1.1.2" from the zip in step one of the guide, onto the SD Card.

9: Switch the camera to "M" (MANUAL) shooting mode, put the SD Card back in the camera and power it on.

10: Run the firmware updater. What this will now do is run the Developer FIR that you originally used to set the bootflag to begin with and eventually take you to a screen which will prompt you to switch shooting mode to remove the bootflag. So basically, when you see this, turn the dial to "Av" mode. This will then do it's thing and say something like "Bootflag removed" and also ask you to power down the camera so go ahead and do that.

11: Now you can pop the SD Card back in your computer and format it and clear all the ML files off and also you might want to clear all custom settings within the Canon menu to be sure that it's all nice and squeaky clean again. Oh and feel free to re-update your firmware if you want.

If you want ML back then simply follow the guide again on page one of this thread.
 
Any problems let me know. Cheers  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Emanuel on July 06, 2013, 10:08:34 AM
SD-Card (what NOT to buy)
Transcend 32 GB High Speed Class 10 UHS Flash Memory Card (32g)- after using the latest modules and autoexec (RecVol.zip) the top frame count that i get on it recording what 1% was able to record without stopping (1280x720) is about 256 frames (10s) @t 31/mbs.

Maybe i'm doing something wrong (i hope not) - should i bite the bullet and grab a 95?  :-\
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Emanuel on July 06, 2013, 10:19:13 AM
I do have premiere/after effects. I actually found this one article where they took all the images into photoshop and correct what you want then export as tiff, so I tried that first just because it seemed easy enough. I am going to try a more elaborate way next with premiere/ae.

AE-Premiere is the better way to go - you can take advantage of your CUDA's and render time on DPX is much lower then it would be in PS - for a 5 minute video in AE @t 1600x600 saving DPX took about 2 hours and 30 min - at 16G of ram.  :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Anisotropic on July 06, 2013, 10:43:26 AM
On this card there is 36-37mb/sec on raw video (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fe96.ru%2Fimg%2Fcatalog%2Fcifrovye_fotoapparaty%2Fmemory_cards%2F148126%2FTranscend_SDHC_32Gb_Class_10_UHS_I_231943.jpg&hash=5d9416efe2ca400450354d3f0fde49ed)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on July 07, 2013, 06:09:26 PM
Already bored 1% with the details but just got back from holiday and had tonnes of fun shooting with a 15mm lens and zoom mode for shooting raw! Get pretty close to shooting normally with a 50mm and has no noticeable distortion due to only using the center of the lens! Anyway - if nobody has tried yet you should have a play with zoom mode and be totally amazed at how well it takes sharpening and pulls out loads of detail without it looking artificial! Seriously! Never seen sharpening work so well and do so much without crapping all over my footage! Don't be put off by how crappy it looks in Live View either. It WILL look better on your NLE. I'll upload a vid when I get a couple hours!

Peace  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on July 07, 2013, 06:23:15 PM
Already bored 1% with the details but just got back from holiday and had tonnes of fun shooting with a 15mm lens and zoom mode for shooting raw! Get pretty close to shooting normally with a 50mm and has no noticeable distortion due to only using the center of the lens! Anyway - if nobody has tried yet you should have a play with zoom mode and be totally amazed at how well it takes sharpening and pulls out loads of detail without it looking artificial! Seriously! Never seen sharpening work so well and do so much without crapping all over my footage! Don't be put off by how crappy it looks in Live View either. It WILL look better on your NLE. I'll upload a vid when I get a couple hours!

Peace  8)

I know its awesome! The thing is though I don't know how to center the liveview properly. I wish ML had a built in center framing tool.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on July 07, 2013, 06:26:21 PM
Yeah - it sucks that you can't get a true representation of what your actual framing will be like so I could never really use it for say a directed scene with actors and dialogue but with cutaway shots that are say gonna be used in a montage of footage (ie a wedding/live event etc) it works great :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Emanuel on July 07, 2013, 08:44:01 PM
Happy to hear you're gonna post a new video Noisy . This was the 1600x670 i was able to get about 5 seconds at the time with the Trancend card - i'll have the 95 Sandisk soon - so i'm hoping this would double

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: CharlieA56 on July 07, 2013, 08:58:52 PM
Out of ignorance question...

Anyone can help me understand why (on the 6D) the 10x Live View Zoom activates when I try to make manual focusing ?
Thanx for any clarification.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on July 07, 2013, 10:00:15 PM
You have "zoom with focus ring" activated in the magic lantern menu under "LiveView Zoom Tweeks".

 8)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on July 07, 2013, 10:06:12 PM
Happy to hear you're gonna post a new video Noisy . This was the 1600x670 i was able to get about 5 seconds at the time with the Trancend card - i'll have the 95 Sandisk soon - so i'm hoping this would double

Nice work man :) Some nice shots in there. Also nice to see you haven't obsessed over pulling back highlights outside the windows in a shot or two and instead have exposed correctly for inside. All to many videos out there that people are making their shots look terrible by under exposing and then pulling the highlights and shadows real far apart just because it's raw and they can! That's what power masks are for ;)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on July 07, 2013, 10:23:09 PM
Heh, grayscale preview should show real framing in zoom mode, otherwise the box is pretty decent. While recording yea, framing is a problem in crop modes.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on July 08, 2013, 12:25:05 AM
Heh, grayscale preview should show real framing in zoom mode, otherwise the box is pretty decent. While recording yea, framing is a problem in crop modes.

Will there ever be a fix for this?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on July 08, 2013, 12:30:55 AM
Ah! Didn't realize that about grayscale!  - must have passed me by. Thanks dude!

When you say the box is pretty decent, do you mean you can get a framing box in zoom mode? Probably getting the wrong end of the stick but I thought that wasn't possible due to ML not being able to draw overlays in zoom mode?

Hmm... just realized grayscale doesn't turn gray for me - just clears all overlays... Been a while since I updated though (can't remember what version I'm currently on) so I'll update to latest version and have a play :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on July 08, 2013, 12:38:09 AM
Yeah I knew about grayscale but I thought it was broken because it didn't change the color or framing. Or so it seems. Does grayscale essentially takes away the white box and makes the white box the full screen?

Since I bought a 5D2 and sold my 6D, I was wondering, will the install of ML almost be the same? I'm guessing its not required to have the firmware updating steps...

Do I just:
1) Add the files from ML to the CF card
2) Make it bootable with EOS card
3) And boot?

Or do I have to flash the firmware with ML on it to unlock the bootflag first?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on July 08, 2013, 02:45:00 AM
It clears while recording if you turn GD off. Otherwise the gray image should be the entire frame.

5DII : You still have to boot flag the camera (fir) unless someone did it before you.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on July 08, 2013, 02:53:25 AM
It clears while recording if you turn GD off. Otherwise the gray image should be the entire frame.

5DII : You still have to boot flag the camera (fir) unless someone did it before you.

Ok thanks.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on July 08, 2013, 03:31:39 PM
Ahhhh okay! So GD needs to be on for grayscale preview to work?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on July 08, 2013, 04:11:25 PM
Yup, thats how its drawn.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on July 08, 2013, 04:16:01 PM
Is 60 fps available yet in raw for 6D? I saw some footage of the 5dIII doing it and loved it so I wanted to make sure I had not missed it somewhere with the updates.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on July 08, 2013, 04:23:14 PM
Yup, thats how its drawn.

Seems legit.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on July 08, 2013, 04:35:18 PM
You can do 60FPS but there isn't a lot of bandwidth... it will be small.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on July 08, 2013, 06:00:37 PM
Ok thanks @ 1%, I wanted to use some 60fps on this next gig but I think I can go without. I am hoping to film an entire music video in raw with my 6D that I was hired to film next week. Need to order some more SD cards today!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: classicjoe on July 09, 2013, 05:52:18 PM
Already bored 1% with the details but just got back from holiday and had tonnes of fun shooting with a 15mm lens and zoom mode for shooting raw! Get pretty close to shooting normally with a 50mm and has no noticeable distortion due to only using the center of the lens! Anyway - if nobody has tried yet you should have a play with zoom mode and be totally amazed at how well it takes sharpening and pulls out loads of detail without it looking artificial! Seriously! Never seen sharpening work so well and do so much without crapping all over my footage! Don't be put off by how crappy it looks in Live View either. It WILL look better on your NLE. I'll upload a vid when I get a couple hours!

Peace  8)

Hello everybody, I have received my brand new 6d a couple of days ago and I've been playing around with ML since then... I've read the instruction manual but haven't found out yet how to shoot raw in zoom mode using the center of the lens. Could anyone please teach me how to do it?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on July 09, 2013, 06:58:23 PM
Hey man! All you do is zoom into 5x or 10x zoom mode with the zoom/magnifying glass button an then record :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: classicjoe on July 09, 2013, 09:21:53 PM
Hey man! All you do is zoom into 5x or 10x zoom mode with the zoom/magnifying glass button an then record :)

But which one is the real sensor crop (1:1), 5x or 10x?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: kgv5 on July 09, 2013, 09:40:31 PM
5x and 10x is the same, it only looks different on LV but when you play the footage back its the same mode.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: classicjoe on July 09, 2013, 10:28:18 PM
And what about the "separate waw" audio recording mode? is it possible to use it or not?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on July 09, 2013, 11:24:07 PM
Yea but it might be aligned to 25P. Not really w/ raw though because its already short bandwidth.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: William Dio on July 10, 2013, 04:30:55 PM
Hi guy!

First things first, I just went through the whole discussion and I can only say that YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME!

I've had my 6D for a few months now and I think it (and I) are ready for ML. I just want to be really sure of what I've read so far: I can, providing I have the right DS card, film in RAW format continuously (for about 4 or 5 minutes) in 1504x640. Considering that a lot of the TV shows we had in the past few years were shot in 720p and then upscaled to 1080 without most people noticing the difference, that's plenty for me and I can live with that resolution for the time being. This is in 2:34 and I really love it but just out of curiosity, is there a resolution higher then 1280X720 that would give us 16:9 in continuous shoot?

I'm also not quite clear on the 5X zoom thing. Is it ultimately better to shoot in 5X or can we still produce fine image without the zoom?

On a side note, I plan to record my sound using a Sennheiser mic plugged into an H4N attached to the camera (or the shoulder mount). Have you guys tried working with that kind of rig? Do you know if there's anything better then the (now ageing) H4N?

I plan to proceed with the operation on my 6D in the next few days. I'll let you know how it works.

Thanks again for everything you guys are doing for us.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on July 10, 2013, 07:13:21 PM
Hi guy!

First things first, I just went out through the whole discussion and I can only say that YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME!

I've had my 6D for a few months now and I think it (and I) are ready for ML. I just want to be really sure of what I've read so far: I can, providing I have the right DS card, film in RAW format continuously (for about 4 or 5 minutes) in 1504x640. Considering that a lot of the TV shows we had in the past few years were shot in 720p and then upscaled to 1080 without most people noticing the difference, that's plenty for me and I can live with that resolution for the time being. This is in 2:34 and I really love it but just out of curiosity, is there a resolution higher then 1280X720 that would give us 16:9 in continuous shoot?

I'm also not quite clear on the 5X zoom thing. Is it ultimately better to shoot in 5X or can we still produce fine image without the zoom?

On a side note, I plan to record my sound using a Sennheiser mic plugged into an H4N attached to the camera (or the shoulder mount). Have you guys tried working with that kind of rig? Do you know if there's anything better then the (now ageing) H4N?

I plan to proceed with the operation on my 6D in the next few days. I'll let you know how it works.

Thanks again for everything you guys are doing for us.

There is definately higher resolutions possible in 16:9 format than 720p. I don't know exactly what resolutions are possible, someone else here will have to tell you that.

I don't really know what you mean by how the 3x mode makes a finer image. All I can tell you is that the horizontal resolution in 1x mode is limited to 1808x12xx (I forgot what is the max vertical resolution). 3x crop mode doesnt have these limits.

As far as sound recording goes the h4n is from what I know one of the best consumer audio recorders. The h6n is coming out though and it's supposed to be pretty good. I'm waiting for it.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: William Dio on July 10, 2013, 07:46:11 PM
So, the zoom mode basically allows us to get higher resolution but it crops the image? (I'm sorry, as I said, I didn't really seem to understand that part) Does it have an impact on the moire issue?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on July 10, 2013, 08:44:39 PM
It's main use was originally to be able to zoom in 3x but yes it is also used for obtaining higher resolutions. I believe moire is slightly but negligibly worse.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: William Dio on July 10, 2013, 08:51:47 PM
Thanks for that clarification, xNiNELiVES! I'll see what I can do with it once I've installed ML and played with it for a while.

How long would you say the installation takes (for someone who's not new to hacking devices...) ?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on July 10, 2013, 09:11:42 PM
Thanks for that clarification, xNiNELiVES! I'll see what I can do with it once I've installed ML and played with it for a while.

How long would you say the installation takes (for someone who's not new to hacking devices...) ?

Well I've never hacked anything by myself but I'm quite good with computers. It took me 10 min with this guide.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: DerekDock on July 11, 2013, 03:19:33 AM
Posted this in the other thread but if the devs want to take a look at my error logs.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/he6nmk8mll94k50/Archive.zip
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on July 11, 2013, 03:47:10 AM
Quote
ML ASSERT:
(int)state <= max_job_state
at ../../src/lens.c:1995 (_prop_handler_PROP_LAST_JOB_STATE), task PropMgr
lv:0 mode:3


What were you doing when this happened? I've been trying to track this one down.
I see a memory.c error when you autoloaded or loaded too many modules at once, etc.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: a1ex on July 11, 2013, 06:22:06 AM
You can ignore that one. There may be surprises when doing bracketing (either slowdown, or some settings failing to change, or nothing noticeable at all).
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on July 11, 2013, 09:13:50 AM
Up and running! :D
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: William Dio on July 11, 2013, 03:51:55 PM
You can ignore that one. There may be surprises when doing bracketing (either slowdown, or some settings failing to change, or nothing noticeable at all).

Is that a big issue? I use bracketing regularly.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on July 11, 2013, 05:12:40 PM
I got err70 tonight, is it because i am running older APIs for the modules?
[spoiler]Fri Jul 12 00:15:18 2013
      0:    42.624 [STARTUP]
K302 ICU Firmware Version 1.1.3 ( 5.7.4 )
      1:    42.652 [STARTUP]
ICU Release DateTime 2013.02.28 18:02:17
      2:    42.922 [SEQ] CreateSequencer (Startup, Num = 6)
      3:    43.090 [SEQ] NotifyComplete (Cur = 0, 0x10000, Flag = 0x10000)
      4:    44.517 [PROPAD] PROPAD_CreateFROMPropertyHandle DRAMAddr 0x41744000
      5:    45.188 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x10000
      6:    45.813 [SF] readManufactureCodeSerialFlash 0xc2
      7:    45.822 [SF] MACRONIX
      8:    46.107 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 0)
      9:    46.129 [STARTUP] startupEntry
     10:   112.724 [PROPST] Initialize Adjective & Situation
     11:   113.224 [PROPST] @@@ dwHdmiPhysicalConnect = 0(960)
     12:   113.513 [HPD] HotPlug WifiSetting = 0
     13:   113.587 [HPD] CreateTask Master End
     14:   114.299 [SEQ] NotifyComplete (Cur = 1, 0x2, Flag = 0x2)
     15:   114.991 [PROPST] dwNewAeModeDial = 3
     16:   115.053 [PROPST] ChangeAEMode -> 3 @AE_MODE_DIAL
     17:   115.140 [PROPST] Active Adjective & Situation 3->3
     18:   115.199 [PROPST] ReqChangeCBR : Adjective 0, 0
     19:   115.222 [PROPST] Not ExecMultiConvert Already None : Adjective 0, 0
     20:   115.334 [PROPST] Not ExecMultiConvert : Situation 0
     21:   115.387 [PROPST] Initialize FlaverPCValid 1 (1)
     22:   115.423 [PROPST] Initialize FlaverPCValid 2 (1)
     23:   115.459 [PROPST] Initialize FlaverPCValid 3 (1)
     24:   115.510 [PROPST] !! Convert End !!
     25:   116.093 [PRP] Deliv WaitID = 0x80000001, 0xFF228B1C(1)
     26:   117.556 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x7
     27:   117.643 [PROPAD] pFromProperty->pNextWriteAddress 0x10000
     28:   117.710 [STARTUP] startupPropAdminMain : End
     29:   117.792 [SEQ ERROR] NotifyComplete (Cur = 1, 0x0, Flag = 0x20000000)
     30:   118.999 [PRP] mode 0 size 0x0 , framerate 0x1e , type 0x1 zoom 0x0
     31:   120.140 [PRP] Complete WaitID = 0x80000001, 0xFF228B1C(0)
     32:   120.192 [PRP] SpecialComplete ID = 0x80000001, 0x80000001 2478
     33:   120.482 [PRP] ALERT DELIVER ARRAY 30
     34:   121.474 [PRP] LV_CFilter : kind 0 hv 0
     35:   121.498 [PRP] Level 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
     36:   121.634 [HPD] HotPlug WifiSetting = 0
     37:   122.318 [PROPST] StartupCondition : 1, 0
     38:   122.570 [EM] emSlaveChangeCBR : AUTO_POWEROFF (1)
     39:   122.647 [EM] emSlaveChangeCBR : UILOCK (0x0)
     40:   122.834 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 1)
     41:   122.866 [STARTUP] startupPrepareProperty
     42:   123.150 [STARTUP] PROP_GPS_AUTO_TIME_SETTING 1
     43:   123.270 [SEQ] NotifyComplete (Cur = 2, 0x20420110, Flag = 0x20000000)
     44:   123.293 [STARTUP] startupPrepareCapture : CLASSID_FLAG_PROPAD
     45:   123.325 [FM] FM_Initialize (0, 1, 0)
     46:   123.531 [FM] fmResultCBR (0x5a1c54)
     47:   124.355 [FM] PROP_HDD_DCIM_PATH (/)
     48:   124.608 [FC] FC_Initialize [drive:3][ClassID:39]
     49:   124.969 [RTC] PROPAD_GetPropertyData : PROP_TIME_ZONE 4
     50:   125.028 [RTC] PROPAD_GetPropertyData : PROP_SUMMERTIME_SETTING 0
     51:   125.460 [RTC] ChangePropertyCBR 0x0, 0x6000
     52:   126.835 [SND] Seq LPC 5-0
     53:   126.862 [SND]  HARB_ARBMODE  Before:0x00000001 Current:0x00000000
     54:   126.894 [SND]  HARB_HARBCTRL Before:0x2AAAAAE8 Current:0x2AAAAAE8
     55:   126.902 [SND] Seq LPC 5-1
     56:   126.934 [SND] Seq LPC 5-2
     57:   126.967 [SND] Seq LPC 5-3
     58:   126.985 [SND] Seq LPC 5-4
     59:   126.992 [SND] Seq LPC 5-5
     60:   127.002 [SND] Seq LPC 5-6
     61:   127.414 [SND] Seq LPC 5-7
     62:   127.425 [SND] Seq LPC fin
     63:   128.584 [RSC] hMemoryQueue (0x800010) hStorageQueue (0x820012)
     64:   130.004 [PRP] mode 0 size 0x0 , framerate 0x1e , type 0x1 zoom 0x0
     65:   132.061 [STARTUP] PROP_GPS_AUTO_TIME_SETTING 1
     66:   133.183 [PRP] LV_CFilter : kind 0 hv 0
     67:   133.218 [PRP] Level 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
     68:   133.396 [HPD] HotPlug WifiSetting = 0
     69:   134.279 [PRP] Complete WaitID = 0x8000003F, 0x00000000(0)
     70:   134.835 [PRP] Complete WaitID = 0x80000045, 0x00000000(0)
     71:   135.370 [PRP] Complete WaitID = 0x8003006F, 0x00000000(0)
     72:   136.043 [RSC] MemoryStatusMasterResultCBR
     73:   136.408 [RSC] ### LIST 8 0 8 ###
     74:   136.458 [RSC] AllocateMemoryUnit For ExMem1
     75:   136.476 [RSC] AllocateMemoryUnit For ExMem1
     76:   136.489 [RSC] AllocateMemoryUnit For ExMem1
     77:   136.502 [RSC] AllocateMemoryUnit For ExMem1
     78:   136.532 [RSC] AllocateMemoryUnit For OnlyMem1
     79:   136.543 [RSC] AllocateMemoryUnit For OnlyMem1
     80:   136.554 [RSC] AllocateMemoryUnit For OnlyMem1
     81:   136.567 [RSC] AllocateMemoryUnit For OnlyMem1
     82:   136.624 [RSC] #Add [ FreeUnit 4 AddNum 0 ]
     83:   136.666 [RSC] #Add1[ 0-> Unit 006c3600 Address 52400000 SubUnit 15]
     84:   136.705 [RSC] #AddB[ 0-> Unit 006c3600 Address 52400000 ]
     85:   136.735 [RSC] #Add1[ 1-> Unit 006c35e4 Address 50000000 SubUnit 15]
     86:   136.769 [RSC] #AddB[ 1-> Unit 006c35e4 Address 50000000 ]
     87:   136.800 [RSC] #Add1[ 2-> Unit 006c35c8 Address 4d400000 SubUnit 15]
     88:   136.832 [RSC] #AddB[ 2-> Unit 006c35c8 Address 4d400000 ]
     89:   137.359 [PROPST] dwNewAeModeDial = 3
     90:   137.404 [PROPST] ChangeAEMode -> 3 @AE_MODE_DIAL
     91:   137.446 [PROPST] !! Convert End !!
     92:   137.882 [PRP] Deliv WaitID = 0x80000001, 0xFF228B1C(1)
     93:   138.182 [PRP] Complete WaitID = 0x80000001, 0xFF228B1C(0)
     94:   138.219 [PRP] SpecialComplete ID = 0x80000001, 0x80000001 2478
     95:   138.324 [RSC] #Add1[ 3-> Unit 006c35ac Address 4b000000 SubUnit 15]
     96:   138.370 [RSC] #AddB[ 3-> Unit 006c35ac Address 4b000000 ]
     97:   138.389 [RSC] #Add2[ FreeUnit 4 ]
     98:   138.930 [RSC] MemMgr(IMAGE) 0 1
     99:   138.949 [RSC] MemMgr(IMAGE) 0 0
    100:   138.960 [RSC] MemMgr(IMAGE) 0 6
    101:   138.971 [RSC] MemMgr(IMAGE) 0 0
    102:   139.027 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    103:   139.258 [RSC] RearrangeMemMgr 0 3
    104:   139.324 [RSC] PROP_MEMORY_STATUS(SELF) (10->)13 (OTHER) 13
    105:   139.343 [RSC] Deliver PROP_MEMORY_STATUS 13
    106:   139.698 [RSC] ClearBusy(0x1) 0x40->0x40,0x0(0x40)[0,0]
    107:   139.785 [RSC] ### SRMExMem1_1State Event 0 Result State 0->6 ###
    108:   140.274 [RSC] ### SRMExMem1_1State Event 4 Result State 6->6 ###
    109:   140.488 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    110:   140.748 [RSC] ClearBusy(0x1) 0x40->0x40,0x0(0x40)[0,0]
    111:   140.970 [RSC] this->dwCardStatus[0] = 0x0(603)
    112:   141.189 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    113:   141.501 [RSC] ClearBusy(0x1) 0x40->0x40,0x0(0x40)[0,0]
    114:   141.688 [RSC] this->dwCardStatus[1] = 0x0(603)
    115:   141.903 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    116:   142.163 [RSC] ClearBusy(0x1) 0x40->0x40,0x0(0x40)[0,0]
    117:   142.345 [RSC] this->dwCardStatus[2] = 0x0(603)
    118:   142.548 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    119:   142.806 [RSC] ClearBusy(0x1) 0x40->0x40,0x0(0x40)[0,0]
    120:   142.994 [RSC] PROP_PC_HDD_STATUS = 0x1
    121:   143.371 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    122:   143.638 [RSC] ClearBusy(0x1) 0x40->0x40,0x0(0x40)[0,0]
    123:   143.994 [RSC] AddExMem1UnitToShootMemoryObject 0 4
    124:   144.049 [RSC] AddExMem1UnitToShootMemoryObject 0 4
    125:   144.099 [RSC] AddExMem1UnitToShootMemoryObject 0 4
    126:   144.146 [RSC] AddExMem1UnitToShootMemoryObject 0 4
    127:   144.198 [RSC] ClearBusy(0x1) 0x40->0x40,0x0(0x40)[0,0]
    128:   144.230 [RSC] ### SRMExMem1_1State Event 5 Result State 6->1 ###
    129:   144.431 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    130:   144.738 [RSC] RearrangeMemMgr 0 0
    131:   145.260 [RSC] ### SRMExMem1_1State Event 5 Result State 1->1 ###
    132:   145.521 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    133:   146.552 [RSC] ### SRMExMem1_1State Event 5 Result State 1->1 ###
    134:   146.779 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    135:   147.247 [RSC] PROP_SAVE_MODE = 0x1
    136:   147.470 [RSC] PROP_CARD0_FOLDER_NUMBER
    137:   147.650 [RSC] PROP_CARD1_FOLDER_NUMBER
    138:   147.830 [RSC] PROP_CARD2_FOLDER_NUMBER
    139:   148.425 [RSC] PROP_NUMBER_OF_CONTINUOUS_MODE BaseDcfNo 592
    140:   148.609 [RSC] ### SRMExMem1_1State Event 5 Result State 1->1 ###
    141:   148.828 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    142:   149.276 [RSC] ### SRMExMem1_1State Event 5 Result State 1->1 ###
    143:   149.489 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    144:   150.268 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    145:   150.555 [RSC] PROP_CARD_EXTENSION 0
    146:   152.061 [RSC] PC_CLUSTER_SIZE = 0x1000
    147:   152.724 [RSC] SetAutoIsoCode 0x70
    148:   152.748 [RSC] ChangeAutoIsoCode Factor:1 AutoIsoCode:112 -> 112
    149:   152.991 [RSC] SetAutoIsoCode 0x70
    150:   153.014 [RSC] ChangeAutoIsoCode Factor:2 AutoIsoCode:112 -> 112
    151:   153.439 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    152:   153.975 [RSC] ClearBusy(0x40000) 0x40->0x40,0x0(0x40)[0,0]
    153:   154.227 [RSC] ClearBusy(0x40000) 0x40->0x40,0x0(0x40)[0,0]
    154:   154.440 [RSC] ClearBusy(0x40000) 0x40->0x40,0x0(0x40)[0,0]
    155:   154.627 [RSC] ClearBusy(0x40000) 0x40->0x40,0x0(0x40)[0,0]
    156:   154.787 [RSC] SetAutoIsoCode 0x80
    157:   154.812 [RSC] ChangeAutoIsoCode Factor:0 AutoIsoCode:112 -> 128
    158:   155.111 [RSC] ### SRMExMem1_1State Event 5 Result State 1->1 ###
    159:   155.332 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    160:   155.846 [RSC] ### SRMExMem1_1State Event 5 Result State 1->1 ###
    161:   156.065 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    162:   156.572 [RSC] ### SRMExMem1_1State Event 5 Result State 1->1 ###
    163:   156.814 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    164:   157.589 [EM] emRegisterMulticastCallback : EventID = 14, ClassID = 128
    165:   157.776 [EM] emRegisterMulticastCallback : EventID = 15, ClassID = 128
    166:   158.491 [EM] emRegisterMulticastCallback : EventID = 4, ClassID = 128
    167:   158.898 [FM] FM_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
    168:   158.953 [MRK] MRK_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
    169:   158.987 [MRK] RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback : DriveNo = 2
    170:   159.016 [FM] voiRegisterSpaceNotifyCallback : DriveNo = 2
    171:   159.040 [AUDIO] [GPS] GPS_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
    172:   159.073 [FM] [GPS] gpsRegisterSpaceNotifyCallback : DriveNo = 2
    173:   159.097 [FM] RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback : DriveNo = 2
    174:   159.134 [FC] FcmcRegisterSpaceNotifyCallback : DriveNo = 2
    175:   159.156 [FM] FM_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
    176:   159.410 [JOB] InitializeJobClass (ID = 594, Num = 13)
    177:   159.555 [JOB] [BIND] dcsResultCBR (0x6c5014)
    178:   160.015 [JOB] PROP_GPS_INFORMATION fGPSConnect = 0x0
    179:   160.039 [JOB] MPU 0x0 USB 0x0 WFT 0x0 INNER 0x0
    180:   160.090 [JOB] PROP_MPU_GPS fGPSConnect = 0x0
    181:   160.106 [JOB] MPU 0x0 USB 0x0 WFT 0x0 INNER 0x0
    182:   160.259 [JOB] @@@setDefaultImgDirection
    183:   160.295 [JOB] PROP_GPS_DEVICE_ACTIVE INNER 0x0 fGPSConnect = 0x0
    184:   161.342 [JOB] PROP_BTDEVICE_CONNECT WFT 0x0 fGPSConnect = 0x0
    185:   161.795 [CERES]  RegisterGPSInfoCallback
    186:   162.201 [EM] emLockControl (TYPE_JOBSTATE = 0x0)
    187:   162.370 [RSC] ### SRMExMem1_1State Event 6 Result State 1->1 ###
    188:   162.430 [RSC] ### SRMExMem1_1State Event 5 Result State 1->1 ###
    189:   162.651 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    190:   163.011 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    191:   163.441 [RSC] PROP_SAVE_MODE = 0x1
    192:   163.563 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    193:   164.295 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    194:   164.834 [JOB] InitializeInnerDevelopJobClass (ID = 594, Num = 16)
    195:   164.866 [JOB] InitializeMultipleExposureShootJobClass ( Num = 27,11 )
    196:   164.887 [JOB] InitializeMultipleExposureSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 13 )
    197:   164.910 [JOB] InitializeHDRShootJobClass ( Num = 12 )
    198:   164.931 [JOB] InitializeHDRSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 34 )
    199:   164.950 [JOB] InitializeGISShootJobClass ( Num = 12 )
    200:   164.972 [JOB] InitializeGISSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 25, 31 )
    201:   165.097 [TERM] terminateChangeCBR : SHUTDOWN (255)
    202:   165.110 [TERMINATE] SHUTDOWN init comp
    203:   165.180 [TERM] terminateChangeCBR : AUTO_POWEROFF (1)
    204:   165.222 [TERMINATE] Abort init comp
    205:   165.367 [SEQ] NotifyComplete (Cur = 2, 0x420110, Flag = 0x100)
    206:   165.425 [WFT]  TOM_Initialize
    207:   165.766 [WFT]  PROP_NETWORK_FTP (1)
    208:   166.141 [EM] emRegisterMulticastCallback : EventID = 0, ClassID = 158
    209:   166.244 [EM] emRegisterMulticastCallback : EventID = 1, ClassID = 158
    210:   166.332 [EM] emRegisterMulticastCallback : EventID = 4, ClassID = 158
    211:   166.732 [HDR] HDR_Initialize : Start
    212:   167.079 [RSC] ### SRMExMem1_1State Event 5 Result State 1->1 ###
    213:   167.218 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    214:   167.554 [HDR] ### HDRSetting Clear (OFF->OFF) ###
    215:   167.574 [HDR] ChangePropCBR HDRFunc 0
    216:   167.674 [HDR] NotifyUiLock 0
    217:   167.737 [HDR] HDRS_Initialize
    218:   167.760 [HDR] CreateStageClass
    219:   168.029 [HDR] HDRS_Initialize : End
    220:   168.045 [HDR] HDR_Initialize : End
    221:   168.065 [GIS] GIS_Initialize : Start
    222:   168.420 [RSC] ### SRMExMem1_1State Event 5 Result State 1->1 ###
    223:   168.552 [RSC] ---- MODE[0 0 0]
    224:   168.910 [GIS] ### GISSetting Clear (OFF->OFF) ###
    225:   168.930 [GIS] ChangePropCBR GISFunc 0
    226:   169.036 [GIS] NotifyUiLock 0
    227:   169.092 [GIS] GISS_Initialize
    228:   169.115 [GIS] CreateStageClass
    229:   169.383 [GIS] GISS_Initialize : End
    230:   169.396 [GIS] GIS_Initialize : End
    231:   169.541 [FM] PROP_CARD1_STATUS = 0x0
    232:   169.667 [FM] PROP_CARD1_FOLDER_NUMBER = 142
    233:   169.755 [FM] PROP_CARD1_FILE_NUMBER = 0
    234:   169.901 [FM] PROP_CARD2_STATUS = 0x0
    235:   169.990 [FM] PROP_CARD2_FOLDER_NUMBER = 100
    236:   170.057 [FM] PROP_CARD2_FILE_NUMBER = 592
    237:   170.161 [FM] PROP_CARD3_EXIST = 0
    238:   170.209 [FM] PROP_CARD3_STATUS = 0x0
    239:   170.275 [FM] PROP_CARD3_RECORD = 0 => 1
    240:   170.327 [FM] PROP_CARD3_FOLDER_NUMBER = 100
    241:   170.395 [FM] PROP_CARD3_FILE_NUMBER = 0
    242:   170.488 [FM] PROP_FILE_NUMBERING_MODE = 1, 0
    243:   170.539 [FM] PROP_CARD_EXTENSION = 0
    244:   170.593 [FM] PROP_CURRENT_MEDIA = 2
    245:   170.642 [FM] PROP_USBDEVICE_CONNECT = -1
    246:   170.692 [FM] PROP_NUMBER_OF_CONTINUOUS_MODE = 592
    247:   170.736 [SEQ] NotifyComplete (Cur = 2, 0x420010, Flag = 0x10)
    248:   170.801 [FM] PROP_DSDEFINE ModelId 80000302
    249:   170.858 [FM] PROP_APPENDMOVINFO Handle 0,205001d
    250:   170.881 [FM] PROP_APPENDMOVINFO VideoSnapMode 4,205001d
    251:   170.940 [FM] PROP_SPECIAL_OPTION = 24576
    252:   170.992 [FM] PROP_SCREEN_SAVER = 0
    253:   171.101 [FM] PROP_CARD3_EXIST = 0
    254:   171.152 [FM] PROP_CARD1_STATUS = 0x0
    255:   171.206 [FM] PROP_CARD2_STATUS = 0x0
    256:   171.252 [FM] PROP_CARD3_STATUS = 0x0
    257:   171.306 [FM] PROP_CARD_EXTENSION = 0
    258:   171.347 [FM] PROP_CURRENT_MEDIA = 2
    259:   171.478 [FM] PROP_CARD3_RECORD = 0 => 1
    260:   171.523 [FM] fmInitialized
    261:   171.597 [FC] _FC_SetDirSuffix (CANON)
    262:   171.674 [FM] fmPrepare
 [/spoiler]
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on July 11, 2013, 05:19:05 PM
What was the err 70? You cant load bolt rec + its raw rec and new raw_rec at the same time.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on July 11, 2013, 05:22:01 PM
ASSERT: FALSE
at ./ASIF/ASIF.c:383, task ASIF
lv:0 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : v2.3.NEXT.2013Jul02.6D113
Mercurial changeset   : e02c4335dbe1 (unified) tip
Built on 2013-07-02 21:42:36 by user@D610.
Free Memory  : 445K + 1394K


This is it. Can i disable bolt rec then?
Then, my modules are API 1.3 while 2.0 is expected. How to solve it?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on July 11, 2013, 05:32:54 PM
You got err 70 from something else ... ie memory and then CPU reset taking off asif patches.

Just go into where the modules are and disable the ones you don't need.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on July 11, 2013, 05:35:38 PM
What about the older APIs i have?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on July 11, 2013, 05:50:47 PM
If you have older api modules they won't load.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on July 11, 2013, 05:53:12 PM
Yeah, so where can i find the new ones?
I am downloading stuff from your Tragic Lantern.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on July 11, 2013, 06:17:13 PM
It should come with new ones:

https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads/%5B6D%5D%20RecVol.zip%5B6D%5D%20RecVol.zip
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on July 11, 2013, 06:28:30 PM
It should come with new ones:

https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads/%5B6D%5D%20RecVol.zip%5B6D%5D%20RecVol.zip
I got them from here and they are v1.3.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: darkstarr on July 11, 2013, 06:37:07 PM
alright ML installed on 6D

Thanks folks

quick note to add: last step when running the eoscard.exe it didnt work when the card was formatted as fat32 and ntsc, only worked on exfat.
but its up and running now, didnt try raw yet i installed ML for focus peaking, cant live without it anymore!

shooting a music video tonight so we'll see how it goes,
there was a thread were people were discussing best h.264 settings (bitrate etc), but i cant seem to find that thread anymore.
anybody able to link me to it? :p
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on July 11, 2013, 06:40:05 PM
If they were the wrong version it wouldn't load and throw up an api error.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: darkstarr on July 11, 2013, 06:52:10 PM
If they were the wrong version it wouldn't load and throw up an api error.

yea im not sure, when running the eoscard, after pressing SAVE it didnt do anything except "write successful" msg at the bottom.
but once formatted to exfat you would see it go through the files etc

thanks again all of you thats working hard on this!!!
keep up the excellent work

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on July 11, 2013, 07:07:10 PM
If they were the wrong version it wouldn't load and throw up an api error.
The folder was not were it should have been...
My bad.
Now i need a decent SD card.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: William Dio on July 11, 2013, 07:35:49 PM
I was looking at SD cards myself. Would one of these work?

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-Class-Memory-SDSDX-064G-X46/dp/B0070WU51U/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1373562701&sr=8-5&keywords=sandisk+extreme+pro+64gb
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: xNiNELiVES on July 11, 2013, 08:01:15 PM
I was looking at SD cards myself. Would one of these work?

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-Class-Memory-SDSDX-064G-X46/dp/B0070WU51U/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1373562701&sr=8-5&keywords=sandisk+extreme+pro+64gb

Thats the exact SD card you should get. Any SanDisk Extreme (Tier 1, because there are now 80MB/s extreme cards) is exactly what you want. Its the most cost effective, but it also max's out the camera. Meaning that you could use a card that features like a gig per second transfer rate and it would perform the exact same as the SanDisk Extreme.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on July 12, 2013, 05:33:35 AM
Iso performance is unbelievable, i'd say 2.5 if not 3 stops better than my 60D.
Damn...
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: CharlieA56 on July 12, 2013, 07:33:16 AM
When I load the modules it shows:

lv_rec -> OldAPI
               Wrong version (v1.1, expected v2.0)

Where can I find the v2.0 ?

Thanx !
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on July 12, 2013, 07:43:47 AM
See the previous link and make sure you put the folder in ML.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: CharlieA56 on July 12, 2013, 07:52:34 AM
See the previous link and make sure you put the folder in ML.

That link (by 1%) doesn't contain the lv_rec module  ???
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: William Dio on July 12, 2013, 06:07:19 PM
Well, installing ML was surprisingly easy. I shot something last night but since my SD card can't seem to go higher then 16 Mb/s I had to go to pretty low res in order to shoot more then a few seconds. I'll try again tonight with a card that claims 30 Mb/s while I wait for my SanDisk Extreme and I'll try to share it with you guys.

A lot of things I've read in the forum and didn't quite get are starting to make sense now. I like the way things are working for the moment, I just need to find out if the workflow can be streamlined to make it faster.

Thanks again for everything.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: danistuta on July 12, 2013, 09:51:23 PM
Is it simple to install ML on 6d? What do functions work?
Thanks.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on July 13, 2013, 12:51:25 AM
Sandisk 30MB/s is more like 16MB/s, they advertise burst read/write speeds :(

I haven't built a new LV_rec in a while, didn't know anyone wanted it.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: templar0707 on July 13, 2013, 03:22:27 AM
Thanks for all the work on this!  I've installed ML with the guide.  When I'm recording normally (not raw) it will randomly shut off and restart and give me an error that it is not recording.  Is there something I need to make sure I turn off if I'm not doing work with the raw files?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: litespeed on July 14, 2013, 10:52:09 AM
Hey Noisy Boy
thanks for your guide. followed it and Got mine up and running on my 6D.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: STELYA on July 14, 2013, 04:15:34 PM
Well I finally got to squeeze my buttocks tight enough today and installed ML on my 6D :) (just didnt want to hurt my baby ) Didnt get it to work first time showing me ff8r.lut not loaded and skipping modules errors and then second time I did it the same way everything is okay :D

 without the ML on the card everything works as stock Canon 6D ...like before on 550D ? And I can revert bootflag if I wanted?

Cheers guys , said great work so may times so dont want to repeat myself :)

Also , I cant move focus point around with arrow wheel when in Magic Zoom like before...just skip between AF points ?

Thankya
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on July 14, 2013, 05:24:38 PM
Quote
When I'm recording normally (not raw) it will randomly shut off and restart and give me an error that it is not recording

If it does this you've misconfigured H264. I.e you set target rate only or didn't copy the configs.

Quote
Also , I cant move focus point around with arrow wheel when in Magic Zoom like before...just skip between AF points ?

Check focus box settings.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on July 15, 2013, 06:08:36 PM
Any new build worth trying?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: CharlieA56 on July 16, 2013, 06:04:28 PM
Question: Why on my 6D the focus peak function doesn't work when RAW video is being recorded ?... the rest of the time it works.
                 On my 60D the focus peak function keeps working when you're recording RAW video.

Thanx for any clarification !  :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Escaperoute on July 21, 2013, 09:14:06 AM
Hi,

I'm so impressed with Dual ISO raw recording from 5d Mark III, is there a chance to bring that to 6D, i would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance for all the amazing work you all are doing, and i expect a really good dedication from all the DEV toward 6D and EOS-M coz both are cheap enough for people like me.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on July 21, 2013, 03:19:34 PM
I'm working porting it. Need to find what bits are flag bits and what bits are ISO, etc.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: rpmcam on July 22, 2013, 01:45:41 AM
finally on vacations, time to test, here`s a comparison between proxys from RAWanizer, original h264 and dng sequences to avid DNxHD, works for me to learn to do the hack and to play a litlle with the workflow. also is insteresting to see the same framing and the changes between the native and the 1536x656. i hope to do more of this!!!



 
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: that1guyy on July 23, 2013, 02:42:25 AM
What's the max resolution the 60D can do? The chart shows that it is approx. 1750 x 1050 (I don't remember the exact numbers) for about 150 frames. Is that correct? So I can assume that scaling to 1080p is very easy? Is it possible to get continuous recording at that resolution? I'm curious because I'll either purchase a 6D or a 70D which has the same SD controller as the 6D and the Raw capability on both should be exactly the same.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on July 25, 2013, 03:19:44 AM
If you're not afraid of spending a bit more money on it i would recommend the 6D.
High iso is better than the 5DIII and pretty much on par with the 1DX.
Also, you get a FF sensor (actually, just a hair smaller) .
I am still shooting with one of those 30MB/s cards which actually gives you 24.4 MB/s top writing speed so it's not blazing fast as the 6D would require.
On a different note, while shooting RAW i noticed that 12800 iso is a bit too noisy when imported in Lightroom 4.4 and i don't know if it's because the line skipping or what.
Did anybody notice the same?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: b0fh on July 27, 2013, 05:43:13 PM
no updates in 1% bitbucket for a while, the 6d port went alpha?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on July 31, 2013, 10:27:32 AM
What's the max resolution the 60D can do? The chart shows that it is approx. 1750 x 1050 (I don't remember the exact numbers) for about 150 frames. Is that correct? So I can assume that scaling to 1080p is very easy? Is it possible to get continuous recording at that resolution? I'm curious because I'll either purchase a 6D or a 70D which has the same SD controller as the 6D and the Raw capability on both should be exactly the same.

6D, definetely

1536x656 continues RAW shooting, upscaling no problem, high ISO (astonishing), full-frame, the awesome middle cross-type AF sensor, WLAN etc.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: TOR13 on August 01, 2013, 08:26:40 PM
Hi!
Has anyone encountered this problem: put on ML 6D c firmware 1.1.3. All is good, but when you turn 6D no  sound recording. Sound recording and display level only appears after , I'll go to the File Browser and go out of it.
Maybe someone faced with such?
Moreover, installed at two different chambers (6D) - this is both. Do not want to go back to 1.1.2.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 01, 2013, 08:38:24 PM
Thats weird, maybe you changed flush rate or gop and its disabling it? The meter only turns on when sound recording is on.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: TOR13 on August 01, 2013, 08:56:20 PM
Thats weird, maybe you changed flush rate or gop and its disabling it? The meter only turns on when sound recording is on.
no. the default settings.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: jbeen1313 on August 01, 2013, 09:46:24 PM
Thinking of installing on my 6D. I understand this is a development version but is the latest version stable for photos mode - I won't be taking Raw video.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 01, 2013, 09:53:20 PM
Its fine with pics + video.  Has been for a while.



Is sound recording on in the canon menu? I haven't seen this problem before. Only lose levels at rest if recording wav after playing back a wav.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: jbeen1313 on August 01, 2013, 10:01:48 PM
Thanks 1% , been a lurker here for a long time. Really impressed with all your work and passion :) Thanks !!
I did have ML 2.3 installed on my 600d , but have not put it on my 6D yet.....


Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: TOR13 on August 02, 2013, 09:56:55 AM
Rolled back the firmware to 1.1.2. - The problem remained. How can I erase Bootflag which registers ML?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: TOR13 on August 02, 2013, 12:20:52 PM
I had to put the very first demo version of ML (to 1.1.2), on which I worked so far. The only way I was able to fix the problem with the sound.
ML version (to 1.1.2) of your archive has the same problem as the ML version (to 1.1.3): when you turn on the camera when the video has no sound recording. Audio recording appears only after entry / exit MENU or browsing
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 02, 2013, 03:07:11 PM
Appears where? I turn it on with auto or manual and I get meters right away. The item remains in the canon menu.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: jbeen1313 on August 02, 2013, 07:57:24 PM
Thanks for the Guide Noisyboy!

Sorry, just a question a few Noob questions :

When I use another SD card without magic latern copied on to it or I disable magic latern at the start - with it be completely turned off? Just sometimes I want max battery power and I know ML can use more power than standard camera.

Are there any adverse effect of bootflags being loaded when ML is not loaded - that does not consume any power/or have any performance effect?

Also to install ML on a new SD card do I follow the same steps use EOScard and just copy on the files.

Really enjoying ML - I should of put it on sooner....

Thanks :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: NikeFreak on August 02, 2013, 08:27:12 PM
здравствуйте, скажите есть ли свежие сборки мл для 6д,  для 650д есть такие https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hxsv61cq992egmy/BtTgp4q6i0 сборки, а есть ли подобное для 6д?
 Hello, tell me is there any fresh assembly ml for 6d, 650d to have such https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hxsv61cq992egmy/BtTgp4q6i0 assembly, and there is similar for 6d?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 03, 2013, 12:05:28 AM
I don't have an auto nightly but I update when there is a change.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on August 03, 2013, 02:11:52 AM
Thanks for the Guide Noisyboy!

Sorry, just a question a few Noob questions :

When I use another SD card without magic latern copied on to it or I disable magic latern at the start - with it be completely turned off? Just sometimes I want max battery power and I know ML can use more power than standard camera.

Are there any adverse effect of bootflags being loaded when ML is not loaded - that does not consume any power/or have any performance effect?

Also to install ML on a new SD card do I follow the same steps use EOScard and just copy on the files.

Really enjoying ML - I should of put it on sooner....

Thanks :)

Sorry for the delay - had a very hectic schedule the last couple months doing shoots back to back so haven't had time for much (not that I'm complaining) ;)

Anyway - you are very welcome my friend and n00b questions are meant to go here so don't be sorry :)

As far as I'm aware there shouldn't be any affect whatsoever on battery and to be honest I haven't noticed any change even when using ML (which is ALL the time).

And yes - basically, run EOScard on the SD card you wish to use, delete the files EOScard puts on there automatically and then replace with the same files you put on your original card. Enjoy :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: NikeFreak on August 03, 2013, 01:52:22 PM
I don't have an auto nightly but I update when there is a change.
где можно найти обновленные сборки?
where you can find the updated build?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on August 03, 2013, 02:00:36 PM
What changed in the latest build? It seems like I can get a little faster speed for continuous writing now during raw recording.

And if I can ask this question again since I never got a clear answer. Can anyone explain the bit rate options on the 6D when not shooting raw. For example when I change it all the way up to 50, what is my bitrate then? And at 40. It says 10mb per unit, is 50 then 500mb? I tried a samsung card that claimed a 40 write speed, but I could not even record audio at the same time when using the 50 bit rate increase. Of course my sandisk keeps up every time with a separate wav recording.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 03, 2013, 03:49:37 PM
There are more settings than that, see iva param thread in the reverse engineering forum. That is just target rate. 10 or 50 is just what the encoder aims for. You want to alter QP or use configs, etc.

Latest pre-reslock is on bitbucket.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on August 03, 2013, 03:56:35 PM
Thank you 1%, I will educate myself more on that. Loving the 6d builds!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on August 04, 2013, 05:21:54 AM
где можно найти обновленные сборки?
where you can find the updated build?

From the top [6D] zip file at the top of  1%'s Bitbucket (https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads) :)

Replace files on your card from the ones in that zip.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on August 04, 2013, 05:28:03 AM
I had to put the very first demo version of ML (to 1.1.2), on which I worked so far. The only way I was able to fix the problem with the sound.
ML version (to 1.1.2) of your archive has the same problem as the ML version (to 1.1.3): when you turn on the camera when the video has no sound recording. Audio recording appears only after entry / exit MENU or browsing


If you wish to completely remove then follow these steps. See if the problem remains. If so it's either you or the camera I'm afraid ;)

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5530.msg57496#msg57496

Good luck!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: NikeFreak on August 04, 2013, 11:22:08 PM
From the top [6D] zip file at the top of  1%'s Bitbucket (https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads) :)

Replace files on your card from the ones in that zip.
[6D] AEValue2.zip it?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 04, 2013, 11:53:37 PM
Thats the latest before locking the edmac channels.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on August 05, 2013, 06:18:40 AM
Since i don't see shutter options in the latest build for fps override i take it that you solved that problem. Good thing :)
Also, my camera showed Err80 on the first boot with the new build; it looks like you know this already too.
What is ResLock for?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 05, 2013, 06:26:38 AM
You got err 80 on first boot? Did it make a log?

The reslock stops canon from writing to the edmac channels being used by raw video.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on August 05, 2013, 06:36:07 AM
Nope, it didn't make a log.
It just happened again, i can't reproduce it though. It happens "randomly".
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on August 05, 2013, 06:39:23 AM
I think there is a problem with one or more modules since the camera seems to boot fine when those are not loaded at the start.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on August 05, 2013, 01:55:50 PM
Also, why is separate audio recording messing up with the lenght of the WAV file?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 05, 2013, 03:27:52 PM
The wav file header is set for like 2 hours in beep.c, same as all other cameras.

Make sure you don't have auto expo and auto ettr on at the same time. Also bolt_rec/my_rec shouldn't run together with raw_rec
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on August 06, 2013, 03:11:14 AM
All good now, there is always some kind of conflict when you don't update the modules correctly.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 06, 2013, 03:20:12 AM
Yep, thats why they come at a package. If ml isn't loading or you get strange err 70/80 its probably the modules/sym.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: CharlieA56 on August 06, 2013, 07:44:12 AM

Recorded with a 6D and a 60D, both @1600x800.

Loving every pixel of the RAW video... Thanx a lot for the work.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on August 06, 2013, 04:31:00 PM
RAW module says 6D's max res is 1808x1224 but there is no way to get the sensor fully covered(not that it matters).
Also, is there a way to have the unused LV frame blacked out?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 06, 2013, 05:16:02 PM
I tried the black out a while ago, it would fight with other overlays.

1808 is the biggest LV raw image it makes. It changes if you use zoom/60p, etc. We can't resize the raw buffer or yuv yet. Maybe something will come from ADTG/CMOS again but its not trivial to make happen.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: jmanord on August 07, 2013, 12:27:15 AM
Finally made it through the post workflow. I went with raw2dng -> lightroom corrections -> Tiff -> Davinci Resolve -> Proxy -> Final Cut -> XML -> Davinci Resolve -> Prores 4444 -> Final Cut -> h.264. I wish the video could better highlight the benefits of raw, but for me it helps hide my shooting errors and lets me manage/correct my photos and videos with lightroom. Thanks again to the ML team and 1%!

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Emanuel on August 07, 2013, 03:53:44 AM
Another one :
1600x670 if i had the time to shoot more (if only) i got the 95mb/s sandisk - and it looks like 1280x720 @ 24 keeps going and going :) i'll post more when i'll have more ready .
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: NikeFreak on August 07, 2013, 07:18:02 PM
нашел ошибку в 6д с прошивкой МЛ, исо не изменяется стандартным способом, при нажатии на кнопку исо и выборе нужного значения, нечего не происходит. исо изменяется только через меню прошивки МЛ, а стандартными средствами не как.
found a bug in the firmware 6d ML, iso does not change the standard way, when you click on the ISO and select desired value, nothing happens. iso only changes the menu ML firmware, and not as a standard means.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: Plucky on August 08, 2013, 04:05:11 AM
11: From the zip in step 1, once again extract and run EOScard.exe. Check the EOS_DEVELOP and BOOTDISK boxes and press save.

12: Navigate to your SD Card and delete (DON'T FORMAT) all the files you can see there.

13: From the zip in step 1, extract all of the files and folders contained within the "Files to run Magic Lantern on 6D Firmware 1.1.3" folder and drag them into the route directory of your SD Card.

Thanks for posting this! However, I had to do step 12, 13, then step 11. EOScard.exe gave me an error unless the ML files were already on the card.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, after updating to 1.1.3 in step 10 I think I erased all of the files from the card. Maybe that was my error. Even so, if you change the order of these steps so that step 11 is after step 13 then it would be more foolproof.

Also, the "once again" part of step 11 made me think I was already supposed to have run EOScard.exe at some point. But running EOScard.exe is not in any previous step. I would remove the words "once again" to prevent confusion. I'm a professional programmer and I got confused by this. Combined with the error I got, I thought I had missed a step.
Title: step 6 can u specify which file i have to extract to my sd card
Post by: ixnevin on August 08, 2013, 11:55:54 AM
hey noisyboy, can u please specify which file from the zip file in step one i should extract to my sd card , i extracted the  the 6d000212.fir file  first to my sd card but when i try to upgrade my firmware it says you need a card with the fimware, or isit any other file from the group of files i should be extracting. i tried to extract all the files but even then it says you need a card with the firmware. sorry i am not tht tecnical.
Title: hey ignore my previous post...now stuck in step 11
Post by: ixnevin on August 08, 2013, 01:19:59 PM
noisy boy can u help
Title: ignore my last 2 post
Post by: ixnevin on August 08, 2013, 03:06:21 PM
finally got ml .. thanks a million
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on August 08, 2013, 06:37:24 PM
Got several crashes since updating to the last built. Also the camera used to make weird peep sounds.
Neither I  had better writing speed/resolution results on it, so I changed the modules and autoexe back to the one before that was running great.

Now the camera doesn't start anymore on this card.

Should you always add the modules from the newest built to the existing ones or just replace the whole folder?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 08, 2013, 06:48:05 PM
What were you doing when you got the crashes. There has to be a way to reproduce them.

Autoexec + sym go together. Modules depend on the sym file, if something new is there then you have to update autoexec + sym, otherwise you're fine.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: NikeFreak on August 09, 2013, 10:37:02 AM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5530.msg65023#msg65023  all of this, or just me?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on August 10, 2013, 07:28:21 PM
Camera crashed when recording or even without. Unfortunately I deleted the logs, cause the last time you said you can't work with it when I put it in here.

What is sym?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on August 10, 2013, 09:29:29 PM
The sym file is in the modules folder when you download the update.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on August 10, 2013, 09:30:40 PM
I found if you have some mixed files, or if you forgot to add them all you will have a crash. I suggest updating your card before a shoot just to make sure you have all the current files.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 10, 2013, 11:23:48 PM
Night before the shoot, lol.

I haven't had any crashes on startup so if you're having them something is missing.

ML/MODULES should have

Sym Fie
Modules you want

Don't turn on autoload modules and just let them all load, pick what you want.

i.e don't load raw_rec + my_rec + bolt_rec and expect no crashes.. there isn't enough memory to do this and they would conflict. The .dis files mean that the module is disabled, if you delete them the module will load again... like setting it to on.

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on August 11, 2013, 06:28:02 PM
Are the DNG frames compressed in any way?
Canon CR2 IS compressed, altough losslessly i think.
The fact that the file size in RAW goes up with high ISO is a clear demonstration of that.
It would be nice to know how it works but i guess everybody wants to know that.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 11, 2013, 06:30:23 PM
Not right now. The MLV format I think will compress them.

It goes up because higher ISO = more data. On 600D the H264 would grow when you raised the ISO, on 6D its not so noticeable. I don't know if I noticed it going up with the raw at all. The extra data is mostly noise tho.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on August 11, 2013, 06:42:11 PM
Yeah but if file size varies then for sure we got compression, even if it's lossless.
CR2 is compressed for sure, altough losslessly, and i think our DNGs are not compressed.
Let's see what you can come up with.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 11, 2013, 07:36:59 PM
Why does that have to point to compression. Can't it simply point to Raw1 at 200ISO has xMB of data, raw2 at 3200iso has xMB of data.

Take all white or all black shots.. they are ~13.6MB, the only thing that causes difference is the embeded jpeg preview because thats lossy compression.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on August 12, 2013, 04:41:58 AM
Enabling Wi-Fi gives you 255M of Shoot Memory instead of 151.
I think it is nice to know :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 12, 2013, 05:08:28 AM
So does the LV ON/oFF hack, but the wifi monitoring isn't so bad.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: NikeFreak on August 13, 2013, 12:08:36 AM
установил мл с Dual Iso, записал видео с ним, и фото, а как из обработать на компьютере, что бы получить конечный результат?
established ml Dual Iso, a video with him, and photos, as well as from the process on the computer, to get the final result?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 13, 2013, 01:23:37 AM
Read the dual ISO thread. I'm not sure how to process a 20GB video tho, the tool doesn't seem too good on batch. Because while the photos are nice, ISOless raw video seems where its at.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: NikeFreak on August 13, 2013, 03:13:57 AM
а есть инструкция по работе с двойным исо?
and there are instructions for the double iso?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 13, 2013, 04:20:00 AM
A whole PDF in english.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7139.msg66487;topicseen#msg66487

Look at first post, ignore it only working on 5DIII/7D  :D
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on August 16, 2013, 03:36:14 PM
So how about losing resolution using the dualISO process. Is it still worth the result?

I like shooting 1536x658, could I also do that in dualISO or does it also affect the possible resolution in continious shooting?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Exile on August 16, 2013, 07:12:32 PM
Hey noisyboy thanks for this handy tutorial!

Q: if i wanted to test the new dual iso ML can i just simply follow your tutorial and replace the ML thats put on in step 13?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 16, 2013, 08:40:28 PM
I don't think there is much resolution loss. It shouldn't affect transfer rate but post processing work-flow might be annoying.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: leothelion on August 17, 2013, 08:19:59 AM
Hey guys,

Does this look right?

The quality of the image is coming out like this http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/sqes.png/.

When I import it to raw2dng here is what I get.
Once I drop the RAW file it looks like this:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/401/0143.png/

Then during the process it looks like this:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/821/f2o8.png/

Then at the end it looks like this:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/208/4dm.png/


I installed ML on the 6D as described here.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: széna on August 18, 2013, 07:53:20 PM
Hi Guys,
I'm in trouble... :(
I try to install ML to my 6D but I jammed at STEP 7! :(
I put the sd card and I try to update the firmware but camera say:

Update file cannot be found.
Please check the memory card reload the battery and try again.

I do everything when noisyboy wrote (formated card, I copy the files: folder ML, file 6D-112.fir and autoexec to the route directory etc...)

HELP ME PLS!

THX!
-széna
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on August 18, 2013, 07:58:42 PM
Hey noisyboy thanks for this handy tutorial!

Q: if i wanted to test the new dual iso ML can i just simply follow your tutorial and replace the ML thats put on in step 13?

Hey bud! You're welcome! Sorry but I've been so busy filming the last month or so that I still haven't tried any of the cool dual iso stuff out for myself yet so one of the other guys might have to answer this as I need to do lots of catching up :) In fact last time I checked it wasn't available for the 6D it's been that long! Does this work now 1%? Cheers man!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on August 18, 2013, 08:02:06 PM
Hi Guys,
I'm in trouble... :(
I try to install ML to my 6D but I jammed at STEP 7! :(
I put the sd card and I try to update the firmware but camera say:

Update file cannot be found.
Please check the memory card reload the battery and try again.

I do everything when noisyboy wrote (formated card, I copy the files: folder ML, file 6D-112.fir and autoexec to the route directory etc...)

HELP ME PLS!

THX!
-széna

Which firmware version do you currently have installed dude?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: széna on August 18, 2013, 08:16:13 PM
Which firmware version do you currently have installed dude?

I didn't updated firmware - so I have 1.1.2

I made STEP 4, it's OK. But that's all.

Thank you for your quick answer noisyboy! :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on August 18, 2013, 08:19:08 PM
No problem man  8) Let me just re-download my zip file and I'll be right with you...
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on August 18, 2013, 08:21:59 PM
What SD Card are you using dude?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: széna on August 18, 2013, 08:25:33 PM
What SD Card are you using dude?

SanDisk 64GB ULTRA 30MB/s it's SDXC I
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on August 18, 2013, 08:26:15 PM
SanDisk 64GB ULTRA 30MB/s

That might be your problem. Do you have a card that isn't 64GB?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: széna on August 18, 2013, 08:30:55 PM
That might be your problem. Do you have a card that isn't 64GB?

uhhh... no, but I will buy tomorrow.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on August 18, 2013, 08:32:41 PM
uhhh... no, but I will buy tomorrow.

Just buy a super cheap 4GB card or something just to do the install. I'm pretty certain that using the 64GB card is your problem man :) Good luck!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: széna on August 18, 2013, 08:34:30 PM
Just buy a super cheap 4GB card or something just to do the install. I'm pretty certain that using the 64GB card is your problem man :) Good luck!

OK I will!
Thank you very much!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 18, 2013, 09:42:29 PM
Yep, have dual ISO on everything.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on August 18, 2013, 10:13:50 PM
Sweeeeet :) Epic work man!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Exile on August 19, 2013, 01:10:19 AM
Hey bud! You're welcome! Sorry but I've been so busy filming the last month or so that I still haven't tried any of the cool dual iso stuff out for myself yet so one of the other guys might have to answer this as I need to do lots of catching up :) In fact last time I checked it wasn't available for the 6D it's been that long! Does this work now 1%? Cheers man!

Filming is good :) Thanks for your reply. I was not sure if I had to downgrade the firmware or if I could run the dual iso version on 1.1.3
 so now I simply leave it to1.1.3 and replace the ML folder and the bin file?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on August 19, 2013, 01:13:51 AM
To update magic lantern to the latest build simply replace the files on the SD card with the latest from 1%'s Bitbucket (at the top of the list and will have [6D] in the zips file name). No need to change your firmware unless you are currently on version 1.1.2 if you are on 1.1.3 just replace files :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Exile on August 19, 2013, 10:18:43 AM
Thanks for the confirmation! I'm not quite used to this pre Alpha stuf, I have only ran
2.3 on 60d but now i'm kinda used to the extra's ML brings :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: széna on August 19, 2013, 12:37:52 PM
Just buy a super cheap 4GB card or something just to do the install. I'm pretty certain that using the 64GB card is your problem man :) Good luck!

Hello again!
So, I bought an 4 GB card and I can "install" ML on my 6D! :)
But... :(
There is something problem I think... At button Q - ML menubar is gone - it's OK. But if I set raw video the 6D go crazy. ML send lot of messages and this box not gone. It's cover half of screen and infos are flashing and I can make only 1-2 second long raw videos.
The red card reading light is flashing constantly too. is it normal?
Finally I have err 70 message and I have to switch off my camera.
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/130819/422121288image_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: RTI on August 19, 2013, 01:55:47 PM
Hello again!
So, I bought an 4 GB card and I can "install" ML on my 6D! :)
But... :(
There is something problem I think... At button Q - ML menubar is gone - it's OK. But if I set raw video the 6D go crazy. ML send lot of messages and this box not gone. It's cover half of screen and infos are flashing and I can make only 1-2 second long raw videos.
The red card reading light is flashing constantly too. is it normal?

I think your card is not that good (if you've used that 4GB) to support raw recording. You'll need to use a fast SD card.
The reason to use a 4GB card was for the sole purpose of installing ML on your camera, you'll need to prepare another card with all the files specified.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: széna on August 19, 2013, 02:46:34 PM
I think your card is not that good (if you've used that 4GB) to support raw recording. You'll need to use a fast SD card.
The reason to use a 4GB card was for the sole purpose of installing ML on your camera, you'll need to prepare another card with all the files specified.

I used 4GB card only for "installing".
I formated my 64GB ultra sandisc (30mb/sec) to try making raw videos.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: széna on August 19, 2013, 03:06:10 PM
I think your card is not that good (if you've used that 4GB) to support raw recording. You'll need to use a fast SD card.
The reason to use a 4GB card was for the sole purpose of installing ML on your camera, you'll need to prepare another card with all the files specified.

What is the highest resolution and bit rate what can I set in safe for making raw videos?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: RTI on August 20, 2013, 09:47:25 AM
What is the highest resolution and bit rate what can I set in safe for making raw videos?

Hi,
you might want to take a look at this chart - http://blog.planet5d.com/wp-content/uploads/Twitter-_-autoexec_bin_-Updated-raw-chart-still-need-....jpg

You need a card that is able to write data @45Mb (a Sandisk extreme is recommended) - 1592*896 is reported to be continuous  @24p
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: széna on August 20, 2013, 10:00:24 AM
Hi,
you might want to take a look at this chart - http://blog.planet5d.com/wp-content/uploads/Twitter-_-autoexec_bin_-Updated-raw-chart-still-need-....jpg

You need a card that is able to write data @45Mb (a Sandisk extreme is recommended) - 1592*896 is reported to be continuous  @24p

THX!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: széna on August 20, 2013, 11:07:23 AM
Ohh GOD!
I was took photos about full moon on the top of a huge building last night. This morning I put SD card to reader and doesn't works... I tried in osx, win, and 6D too. nothing...
:(
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 20, 2013, 02:39:55 PM
6D hasn't broken any cards on me... but 600D has broken 2.

Card goes in, things seem fine.. a few writes + reboot later, unable to read card.

Sector 0 is toast and card no longer reads in anything except @ low level (i.e recovery software). No way to format it because as soon as you remove the card the sector goes back to being corrupted.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: széna on August 20, 2013, 03:47:29 PM
6D hasn't broken any cards on me... but 600D has broken 2.

Card goes in, things seem fine.. a few writes + reboot later, unable to read card.

Sector 0 is toast and card no longer reads in anything except @ low level (i.e recovery software). No way to format it because as soon as you remove the card the sector goes back to being corrupted.

oops... does it means I can throw away my card? :(
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 20, 2013, 04:11:31 PM
Recover your shoot and send it to the company. I have to do that with the 2nd card. First one came back a while ago.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: pio_hyun on August 22, 2013, 11:36:13 AM

This is my newest test Raw video. Hope you enjoy it.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: dp_ice on August 23, 2013, 03:28:50 PM
Anyone else have success achieving 2.5K RAW with crop mode? I'm currently able to record 2624x928 for about 3 seconds. It's not much but hell, it's something. I'm wondering if I can record at that resolution in a better aspect ratio 16x9 or at least 2.35.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 23, 2013, 03:41:00 PM
Our height in zoom mode is less than on 5D3... so it ends up like 2.5Kx900 or about where you have it.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: arturopizza on August 23, 2013, 05:10:54 PM
Dear Noisyboy, thanks for your preciuos guide for install the GREAT ML on the 6D !! I'd done everythings with great attention.. It works !!! But I've a little bug... When I push the trash botton, ML menu appears but after 4/5 sec goes out !!!...Any idea ??? TIA... LONG LIFE TO ML TEAM !!!!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: twidow on August 24, 2013, 03:42:42 AM
I have a new 6D, but the 6D N version (without GPS and wireless). Do you know if this version of ML run on this 6D N version? I had a 60D before, and I'm missing the ML a lot.
Thank you Noisyboy for this fantastic work, and of course thank you for all the ML team.

Excuse me about my bad English, but I'm a spanish speaker from Argentina.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on August 24, 2013, 04:59:55 AM
Dear Noisyboy, thanks for your preciuos guide for install the GREAT ML on the 6D !! I'd done everythings with great attention.. It works !!! But I've a little bug... When I push the trash botton, ML menu appears but after 4/5 sec goes out !!!...Any idea ??? TIA... LONG LIFE TO ML TEAM !!!!

No probs man!

Yeah the menu disappearing is just the way it is for now I'm afraid. You'll get used to it :) I find myself keeping the cursor moving to keep the menu open without even thinking about it now :P
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on August 24, 2013, 05:01:58 AM
I have a new 6D, but the 6D N version (without GPS and wireless). Do you know if this version of ML run on this 6D N version? I had a 60D before, and I'm missing the ML a lot.
Thank you Noisyboy for this fantastic work, and of course thank you for all the ML team.

Excuse me about my bad English, but I'm a spanish speaker from Argentina.

Hey man :) I only wrote the guide dude so I can't take credit for the hack or port, that's the Dev's (big-up 1% especially for the 6D). You should be fine with any model 6D as far as I know. I have the version with no GPS (just wireless) and works fine :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on August 24, 2013, 06:09:24 PM
Hey 6D users  8)

I've  Updated the zip in the guide on the first page of this thread to contain latest module and Autoexec. This is probably the most complete version to date and has Dual ISO (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7139.0), Auto ETTR (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5693.0) and Auto Exposure] (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7208.0) etc.

Sorry it's not been updated for a while, there have been so many developments that have happened so fast it seemed worth while to just let everything come together a bit before encouraging inexperienced users to try it for themselves.

If you ever want to update to the latest version and don't want to wait around for me to update this thread then just get the latest [6D] zip from the top of 1%'s Bitbucket: https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads

Again - there is no "official/stable" release of ML for the 6D. This is still pre-alpha.

Have fun :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 24, 2013, 06:34:16 PM
I'd call it a beta actually. Alpha would be nothing works, we just got the camera.

Anyone try the installer I posted? Maybe you don't have to do the firmware switcharoo anymore.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: dp_ice on August 24, 2013, 08:17:13 PM

Initial 2.5K test with the 6D. Watch in Original quality!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on August 25, 2013, 02:00:03 AM
I'd call it a beta actually. Alpha would be nothing works, we just got the camera.

Anyone try the installer I posted? Maybe you don't have to do the firmware switcharoo anymore.

There you have it then people :) Unofficialy officially beta ;)

Didn't know there was a proper installer, that's pretty cool news though!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on August 25, 2013, 02:02:23 AM
Initial 2.5K test with the 6D. Watch in Original quality!

Holy crap dude that's great!

How were you set up in camera for this?

Cheers  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: dp_ice on August 25, 2013, 03:14:00 AM
Holy crap dude that's great!

How were you set up in camera for this?

Cheers  8)

I pretty much just translated the crop mode 3K shooting done on the 5D3 to my 6D.
Due to the 6D's limited write speed, I could only get off 69 frames.
Also, the only aspect ratio I could get to work was like 2.7 or something.
It's also really hard to see exactly what is in your frame when shooting.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: dwyereywd on August 26, 2013, 06:08:57 PM
My 6D is already running firmware 1.1.3, in order to install do I need to somehow revert to 1.1.2 to follow the installation tutorial? or can I follow the instructions using the 1.1.3?

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: dp_ice on August 26, 2013, 06:40:38 PM
If you read the first post of this topic, you'll find your answer.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 26, 2013, 06:44:49 PM
I put up an installer but nobody has tested it.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Yakoda on August 26, 2013, 11:32:05 PM
Sorry 1% but I can't find your installer. It's not on bitbucked, isn't it? Also I'm using a Mac. Does it run on a Mac?
Oh and thanks for all the work you're putting into this :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 27, 2013, 01:09:34 AM
Its in this thread untested:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7761.0

It needs cards 32gb and less. Name needs to be similar to actual 6D firmware, I think its close enough but I didn't try. EOSM just like this worked.

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: rino wang on August 28, 2013, 12:40:40 AM
Hi all, i'm new in this forum but i have tried shooting RAW on my 6D for some oportunity and it's work well...
i'm using Sandisk 32 GB 45 MB/s

thanks to all developer and to noisyboy for the installer guide...

i found some issues when using magic lantern on my 6D :

1. camera live view getting darker (i can't see my photos and videos even in playback mode)
2. some error when long take shooting but after shut down and power on again, that error gone
3. i think there's one time when i saw some fog in camera screen and it's still there when i turn off the camera

i think the 1st issue become my reason to remove magic lantern and waiting for the stabile released, can someone tell me how to remove it?

i've been using ML on my 550D too for some time, when i want to remove, just format the card... it's the same way to do with 6D?

sorry for my bad english guys and thanks before...
i want to donate for your work guys, a little penny but i'm hoping it can help....    :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 28, 2013, 01:32:40 AM
Quote
1. camera live view getting darker (i can't see my photos and videos even in playback mode)

ML doesn't mess with display brightness. There is a setting for this in canon FW, maybe it got turned down or your LCD is defective.

To remove it you can just format the card and make sure its not bootable.. but I think your problems is from something else and you might be disappointed.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: rino wang on August 28, 2013, 04:28:15 AM
thanks for the reply 1%, i'll try to remove it first to see about camera screen problem, if it still there after remove ML, than it's my bad...  :(

it is on camera format or in computer? and how to make that card not bootable?

thanks again...

i'll post some of my raw test after grading it...
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Laikesh on August 29, 2013, 06:23:33 PM
Hello there,

I succeed in installing ML an my new 6D. So far so good, but the results are pretty weird.

(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imgbox.de%2Fusers%2Fpublic%2Fthumbnails%2FBhcVihGQZJ_t.gif&hash=5603cf986e16dbb780b59cebd6702f39) (http://www.imgbox.de/show/img/BhcVihGQZJ.jpg)

What s wrong? I used RAW2NG for my MAC (10.8.4).

The live-view shows also these kind of stripes…


Thanks
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 29, 2013, 06:25:50 PM
Yea, there are still problems from FPS override even with the shutters... much less though.

What settings did you use? Need more info.

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Laikesh on August 29, 2013, 06:37:42 PM
Why settings? Hum, I`m not shure.

Ok, I use a SDHC EXTREME 32GB (45 bs)


In the menu after the point: RAW_REC.MO there is: MODULE NOT LOADED.

But I shot the RAW-files, as you can see.


80   1.8  ISO 640   with a ZEISS PLANAR 1.4 ZE

WB AUTO
ISO 640
Shutter 1/83.2  108
Aperture 1/7
Picture Style AUTO
Exp.Sim  MOVIE


Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on August 29, 2013, 06:45:45 PM
Did you use zoom or FPS override? 640 iso shouldn't have so much noise/defects... I only have problems at 3200+ and underexposed scenes.

It could also be a problem with conversion... post some original DNGs.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Laikesh on August 29, 2013, 06:54:06 PM
Do you think so? Also the live-view shows that stripes…

Here you can get the original file:

http://ge.tt/1nJVqQq/v/0?c
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: riivrtwo on September 02, 2013, 04:47:40 AM
Check you don't have HDR Video also enabled. It should be turned off for Raw Video.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on September 02, 2013, 05:51:07 AM
Cr2hdr processed it fine. Its a dual iso file.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: fluxo on September 03, 2013, 01:31:48 PM
noisyboy and 1% you´re great, big up to all the ML dev. team,
thanks for all the efford, i´ve been reeding all the posts,
i´ve just order my komputerbay 128gb 60MB/s hope i don´t need to exchange it.
cheers to everyone,
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: fluxo on September 03, 2013, 06:01:04 PM
there is a new nightly built for the 6d, did anyone have try it?

http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/

best
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on September 03, 2013, 06:38:33 PM
So I just found out.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/eos-movrec/

now works with 6D and the speed is 30 or 24fps that I tested so far, none of that 20fps stuff like 600D.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: fluxo on September 05, 2013, 12:29:58 PM
my komputerbay 128gb 60mb/s arrived tonight and have been doing some tests,
everything worked like a charm,
thanks a lots to this creative ML team for all the efford.
canon should really give u guys a percent of all the dslr sales :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on September 06, 2013, 04:54:46 PM
So I just found out.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/eos-movrec/

now works with 6D and the speed is 30 or 24fps that I tested so far, none of that 20fps stuff like 600D.

can we record RAW 1080p with that programm to skip the limited SD-card slot??

(edit) the cr2hdr.exe doesn't work with my dualISO-cr2 file. what am I doing wrong? just drag n drop or not?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: fluxo on September 06, 2013, 05:54:03 PM
hello every1,

want to share my experience with raw...

i´ve installed the lastest ML RAW update for 6D posted by noisyboy on my komputerbay 128gb 60mb/s, everything worked fine, but i notice the 6d body was so hot after a video shot, even when the sd card it was so dam hot.
is this normal? do you experience this heat issue?

i used ETTR, dual ISO, and RAW video.

cheers,

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on September 08, 2013, 05:09:08 PM
hello every1,

want to share my experience with raw...

i´ve installed the lastest ML RAW update for 6D posted by noisyboy on my komputerbay 128gb 60mb/s, everything worked fine, but i notice the 6d body was so hot after a video shot, even when the sd card it was so dam hot.
is this normal? do you experience this heat issue?

i used ETTR, dual ISO, and RAW video.

cheers,

Hey man! A1ex did point out that Dual ISO might cause heating issues but as of now *touches wood* I don't think anyone has had any "real" issues. I do notice my camera getting a bit warm every now and then though. Try playing for a while with just normal raw shooting and see what it's like and then compare with Dual ISO for the same amount of time and let us know how you get on :) Cheers  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: elschreurs on September 08, 2013, 07:49:45 PM
Noisyboy, thanks for the install guide and all your work. Same goes to others on here. ;D

I have ML installed on my 6D on a Sony 40mbps card but I want to get it on a 60mbps card, do I need to go through the whole install process to get it on a new card?

Also a "maybe" off topic, once RAW is recorded you can use the ML RAW converter or another into DNG's what is the best NLE to actually edit this footage? I have Premiere CC, doesn't work. Tried FCP X and it's not recognizing anything and tried DaVinci Resolve Lite and nothing, all on a Mac - what is the best workflow to test out this footage?  :-\
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: asombrir on September 08, 2013, 08:08:55 PM
@elschreurs

With Premiere you need to use After effects first to open your DNG files (after using the converter). You can color grade there and get each clip ready. Save once graded as an AE file. Then you can open in Premiere to insert and edit as you please. It all renders out of Premiere. I had to watch a tutorial to learn how to do it at first, but its actually very simple. A little work, but its very decent for using raw footage.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: drmental on September 09, 2013, 02:13:50 AM
I've lost all my aids (Zebras, Focus Peak, etc).  They worked fine just a couple of days ago and I haven't made any adjustments.  Have reformatted the SD card and copied the files but still no aids.  Any ideas?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on September 09, 2013, 02:55:49 AM
Global draw off, quality not raw?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: drmental on September 09, 2013, 11:05:31 AM
I have global draw ON, all modes. RAW Video ON 1280x720.  Used to work in all liveview even in the image review after taking still photos.  Now nothing even in raw mode.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: drmental on September 09, 2013, 11:19:54 AM
Figured it out, had to press the INFO button outside of ML menu, I guess I had the Canon overlay on.  Thanks for this software 1%.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: fluxo on September 09, 2013, 12:07:11 PM
Hey man! A1ex did point out that Dual ISO might cause heating issues but as of now *touches wood* I don't think anyone has had any "real" issues. I do notice my camera getting a bit warm every now and then though. Try playing for a while with just normal raw shooting and see what it's like and then compare with Dual ISO for the same amount of time and let us know how you get on :) Cheers  8)

thanks for the reply noisyboy, it´s really a bit warm after a few shots in dual iso.
but i notice another  problem... i put ML in all of my 3 sd cards, then i start taking some photo shots and everything worked fine, had a litle break, but then, when  i turned the 6D ON it gave me a semi brick (6D wont turn ON, no signal at all), had to remove the sd card and then the battery in order to the camera turned on, otherwise it wont turn on, evertime i insert any of the 3 ML sd cards it gave me a semi brick again. had to format the card in the laptop in order to worked again.
don´t know what was the problem, but it´s a little strange that all of the 3 sd cards gave me that semi brick.
any sugestion?
best regards to all
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on September 09, 2013, 02:18:55 PM
It does that to me too. I found its from the physical card slot. Sometimes it booted and said "card write protected". Other times it just works.

I re-insert the card a few times and pull/replace the battery. It helped to actually flip the write protect switch on and then off. Dunno if your problem is the same but it sounds like it and if you swap between 3 cards....
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: fluxo on September 09, 2013, 03:55:54 PM
It does that to me too. I found its from the physical card slot. Sometimes it booted and said "card write protected". Other times it just works.

I re-insert the card a few times and pull/replace the battery. It helped to actually flip the write protect switch on and then off. Dunno if your problem is the same but it sounds like it and if you swap between 3 cards....

hy 1%, i think is not the same problem, because that never appears the info "card write protected", and is not a 6D problem, my freind as a 60D with the unified ML stable release and the same thing happen.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on September 09, 2013, 04:05:05 PM
Hmm... well they use different boot methods. It doesn't always show card write protect, what it does do is not turn on until I put the card in right. Needs a battery pull between tries.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: laneo on September 09, 2013, 05:52:17 PM
Hi there,
I'm seeing the dual iso lines, but i can't get rid of them.
I'm on a mac. I'm using the last version of raw2dng (v0.13) to get my dng files.
When i drop the dng files to the last version of cr2hdr it says: "name".dng File not supported.
I tried creating the dng files using the last version of RAWMagic (beta7b). CR2HDR doesnt work with those dng files neither... i still get the .dng file not supported.
Am I missing any steps or it should be working ?
Maybe I should try the same steps on a PC ?
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on September 09, 2013, 08:49:21 PM
Try a newer version of CR2HDR and beware... it overwrites the originals when converting DNGs.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: laneo on September 09, 2013, 11:34:13 PM
Thanks for the tip 1%.
But i'm using the last one (for mac). I got it from here: https://bitbucket.org/a_d_/magic-lantern/downloads
I also tried with an older version. That one came with an installer, but it wont install.. it just hangs on "installing exif". (The newer version is only an app)
Maybe i should contact "a_d". But I don't know hoe to to that, and i didn't found any thread about CR2HD for mac neither.

Today I tried dropping one dmg to a CR2HDR (the one linked on the DUAL ISO thread) on a PC. It only created a an empty "tmp.txt" file.
Any ideas ?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: fluxo on September 09, 2013, 11:54:41 PM
Hmm... well they use different boot methods. It doesn't always show card write protect, what it does do is not turn on until I put the card in right. Needs a battery pull between tries.

cant see what is the problem, after formatting the sd card and copy ML to the card it works great again.
but then after sometimes it happens again.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on September 10, 2013, 12:10:21 AM
Try a newer CR2HDR... look in the dual ISO thread.

Heh, I don't have to recopy anything to get going again, just the the card to activate the WP/card sense switch.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Smesh on September 11, 2013, 05:55:32 AM
Hi guys!  Keep up the great work. :)

I have the second to last version of ML installed successfully on my 6D and have been playing a bit.  Do I need to do the install of the new version completely from scratch or can I just replace the files on the card with those from the new version? 

I'm also having trouble figuring out what is the highest stable resolution I can shoot raw if I actually want to use this on a production, or is it not quite ready for that yet?  I've tried filming, but when switching to RAW, it just keeps crashing, so I guess I need to lower the resolution quite a bit.  I'm using Sandisk Extreme 45Mb/s cards. 

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: fluxo on September 12, 2013, 04:31:41 PM
Hi guys!  Keep up the great work. :)

I have the second to last version of ML installed successfully on my 6D and have been playing a bit.  Do I need to do the install of the new version completely from scratch or can I just replace the files on the card with those from the new version? 

I'm also having trouble figuring out what is the highest stable resolution I can shoot raw if I actually want to use this on a production, or is it not quite ready for that yet?  I've tried filming, but when switching to RAW, it just keeps crashing, so I guess I need to lower the resolution quite a bit.  I'm using Sandisk Extreme 45Mb/s cards. 

Thanks guys!

you just need to replace the files on the card.
my stable version in 16:9 is 1280x720p
cheers
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: misterkofa on September 17, 2013, 04:04:22 AM
I hope this isn't a dumb question but I've scrolled through this post and couldn't find a definite answer. My 6D came already with 1.1.3 on it. Do I downgrade to 1.1.2? Still not 100% clear on how to do this.
Title: raw test video
Post by: rino wang on September 17, 2013, 08:20:21 AM
hi all, just wanna share some test from raw shoot with 6d
1536 x 656 raw video


i used the very first post from noisyboy and had some issued but i think it's worthed to try because the image is so good....

thanks all for the good work, best regards...
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: RTI on September 17, 2013, 02:41:30 PM
Hello,

Can ML for 6D in the current state be considered stable for reliable usage? I know a lot of work has been done, and developers constantly improve stuff. I'm not planning to shoot raw, but I'm interested in features like zebra and focus peaking for video. I'm planning to shoot an event soon, so have to be sure about my camera.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: jarandov on September 17, 2013, 05:00:49 PM
have you guys any ideas when it might come a stable version?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on September 17, 2013, 05:42:11 PM
Quote
Do I downgrade to 1.1.2?

I posted a 113 installer somewhere and have no feedback on whether it worked or not.


Quote
have you guys any ideas when it might come a stable version?

Uhm... you get to decide what version is stable. The main problems I have right now:

1. Sometimes loading modules on startup causes err 70 from memory *mainly when changing bin/modules for first 3 boots.
2. Sometimes H264 doesn't configure and stops writing causing the camera to reboot.


Quote
but I'm interested in features like zebra and focus peaking for video.

Biggest bug, bigger than those is user error and refusal to RTFM.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: a432511 on September 17, 2013, 10:07:33 PM
First, thanks to the devs. I am a software engineer and understand how time consuming a project like this is.

I was running Magic Lantern on the T3i. Loved it. Sold the T3i to upgrade to the 6D and here I am!

Got ML running and started to play. I only recently discovered shooting video in RAW. My questions are:

1. What is the max resolution for RAW video continuous w/ Live View disabled?
2. What is the max resolution for RAW w/ Live View? - I find it hard to film without seeing what I am filming :-) How are others doing this?
3. Can I record audio along with RAW video? -  I have read that this is not possible in earlier posts or other threads, but I wanted to see if that has changed.
4. Not RAW related at all, but is audio monitoring working while recording standard h264 footage?

I know I can just go and test this stuff, but figured I would ask for the sake of other lurkers who are contemplating using ML. There was a spreadsheet that a1ex posted a link to, but it appears outdated.

Finally, the install process was really well laid out! Thanks for putting the time in!

Cheers,

Adam
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on September 17, 2013, 10:40:20 PM
Quote
4. Not RAW related at all, but is audio monitoring working while recording standard h264 footage?

As of yesterday. But I'm still testing audio + memory changes. Should be less crashy now, you can try it if you want to build yourself.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: a432511 on September 17, 2013, 10:52:20 PM
As of yesterday. But I'm still testing audio + memory changes. Should be less crashy now, you can try it if you want to build yourself.

Awesome! I will definitely do that. I have a slick little linux laptop that I am going to try to get the codebase setup on.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: a432511 on September 17, 2013, 11:19:28 PM
As of yesterday. But I'm still testing audio + memory changes. Should be less crashy now, you can try it if you want to build yourself.

Also, are you literally going bit by bit to find some of these registers for functionality? What does your iterative process look like as you develop these features?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: CameraMike on September 18, 2013, 01:50:10 AM
First off I want to say a big thank you to noisyboy and also to 1%.

I'm not here to moan and complain about how things are not working right.. But rather to share my results and have you guys take a look to see if they look decent or not.  I had a hell of a time getting things rolling but here I am , figured things out on my own lol... lets hope!  I had issues with my first memory card , dual ISO was on by default and was driving me crazy trying to figure out why my video had lines in it and looked like I was on an acid trip. 

Anyway so I got a perfect match between raw size and SD card, Shooting at 1600 x 640. 

I did a little side by side with Raw and Raw off using default all-i h264 stock.

After my battle trying to get raw working on my D6 I'm not really blown alway by my results. 
I'm including a link with the raw file out of camera and the mov out of camera.  along with a quick edit with side by side and a crop.

Quick note. I used to have an amazing camera kit.  some fantastic L glass and zeiss, a Canon 5D Mark III and a handful of 600EX RT speeds but it was stolen from me and due to hard times I had to go the direction of the 6D... I'm not looking for Mark III results just trying to put together some nice videos for myself and others to enjoy.

anyway, thanks again to all that put hard work into making this happen on the 6D and across the canon line.  If i got this working using this guide anyone can !..

https://mega.co.nz/#!EAAxCDoK!DHBSelhPiyFXOudsDnC40xqseW5u623YDqNJNgtvje4



Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: zakaria on September 20, 2013, 12:58:26 AM
hi guys,

thanks for kick ass post, i was waiting a pretty long time to get magic lantern on my 6D. this post was super easy to follow.
i just installed magic lantern, but im experiencing this weird problem,
when i go inside the magic lantern menu, its only a matter of 30-40 seconds before the menu closes by its self, and the camera goes to the live view mode.

did anyone experience this, how do i solve it?

thanks in advance.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: rino wang on September 20, 2013, 04:07:51 AM
when i go inside the magic lantern menu, its only a matter of 30-40 seconds before the menu closes by its self, and the camera goes to the live view mode.


same problem here... :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on September 20, 2013, 06:01:34 AM
It times out with the canon dialog on all cameras.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: zakaria on September 20, 2013, 08:12:45 PM
aahh, ok. thanks 1%.
kudos to everyone working hard on magic lantern, this shit is bomb.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: spos86 on September 20, 2013, 11:19:17 PM
I know there is about half a million comparisons out there between raw and h.264 specially on the 5D2 5D6 and 50D, however I haven't seen many on the 6D. So here is a little quick and sloppy comparison. Will try something more serious later.

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ryan326 on September 21, 2013, 12:28:15 AM
Hi Everyone

I just bought my 6d and installed magic lantern.

Everything installed great but I am getting these lines all across the image in my live view and whenever I view the pictures in the camera. When I upload the pictures to my computer the lines are not there.

I tried recording in Raw. I tried to select NoisyBoys recommendation of 1504x640 or 1536x600 @ 24fps, but the Ratio wouldn't match. I chose 1535 and it automatically selected x864. My asepct ratio is 16:9.

Whenever I tried to record in raw with this setting and a couple other ratios it messes up. The lines on the screen are moving when im not recording in liveview. When I hit start to record  it says busy ....please wait. Then the liveview freezes and these blue and green squares start loading at the top left. At the end it says frames captures :4xx then goes back to liveview. There is nothing recorded on the disc.

Please help! Also if there is a video or forum explaining how to properly use ML please refer me to it as I am lost on these forums.

Thank you,
Ryan 
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ryan326 on September 21, 2013, 02:16:39 AM
Update^^

The lines on the screen disappear only when my ISO is between 1250-2000.

I am using a SDHC 45/mb 32gb

The video keeps freezing on me. It doesn't start. I have used a couple resolution settings. I lowered it to 1024x576 to see if it helps, it doesn't. When I hit start/stop it says busy....please wait. Alloc:224 frams. Then it freezes as still image to whatever I had. It has 5 lines aying hack cxxxxx etc. on the top left. On the bottom left, even though the image on teh screen is frozen the timer is still counting up. It has stopped working twice now (out of 10 or so tries). When it stopped working I turned the power off and the image was still stuck on the screen. I had to take the battery out.

Can someone please help?

I hope my problems are helpful and not an easy.. as Noisy calls it, "Moronic Solution.

Thanks,
Ryan
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on September 21, 2013, 04:33:29 AM
Try a diff preview mode.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: dereyes on September 22, 2013, 05:38:07 PM
First of all thanks a million for these nicely put instructions on how to install ML.
I have a couple questions,
1. I can't find "Raw video" on my "Movie Settings"
2. Do I have to use the SD card every time I want to film with ML? (when I remove the card and put in another card ML is not available.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ryan326 on September 23, 2013, 06:01:17 AM
I tried a different preview mode. There were only 2 that didn't cause the liveview to freeze the image. I used the Canon preview. Altough, the lines were still going all across the liveview. I converted the Raw2Dng and opened it in after effects. The lines are all over my images.

Could someone please help me with this?

Also, what is the best SD card to use on the 6D? I am using the 45/mb SDHC 32gb. Should I get something faster so that I can shoot with higher resolution or would a faster card be unnecessary?

Thank you,
Ryan
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on September 23, 2013, 06:24:43 AM
You have to put it on each card you use, its only like 1MB.

above:
I think you turned dual ISO on
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ryan326 on September 23, 2013, 06:55:05 AM
I did have it on. I turned it off and now the lines are gone.  Although, the hacked, grey scale, and other preview modes still freeze the image while shooting video.
 Thank you! I did not know I was suppose to turn it off... I don't understand anything about Raw or ML. Is there a Forum you can recommened me to so that I can shoot the best quality video the 6D can produce? Something that will explain all this RAW stuff and tell me which settings I should turn on/off and why?

And do you recommend getting a faster sd card or is the 6d cap out at 40mb as I read earlier?

Thank you,
Ryan
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Stijn on September 23, 2013, 02:38:52 PM
@Noisyboy, I'm a newbie on here so apologies up front for any ignorant questions.

I’m going to attempt to install Ml on my 6d. I have a few questions on your installation procedure on page 1.

Step 5. Format in camera or in cardreader, if so what file system?

Step 7. The Canon manual says to put the camera in the “P” mode, you write to put the camera in “M” mode but follow the manual as well, what mode do I use?

Step 8.5, what filesystem do I chose? Is it required to run EOSCARD afterwards as part of the format process? I think the standard ML procedure lists to format the card in camera. Hence I’m confused here.


Thanks,
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: egorn on September 23, 2013, 05:22:29 PM
Hello everyone and specisl thanks to guys, who are porting ML to 6D!
What is best result of recording raw video on Canon 6D? Not only continuos but even one minute long?

PS I VERY LOVE YOU GUYS :-*
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: kaktus on September 24, 2013, 04:55:19 PM
Hello everyone and specisl thanks to guys, who are porting ML to 6D!
What is best result of recording raw video on Canon 6D? Not only continuos but even one minute long?

PS I VERY LOVE YOU GUYS :-*
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6121.msg77973#new reply#39 and #40 (don't know how to link to a specific post, sorry :) )
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: CameraMike on September 25, 2013, 05:32:25 PM
I tried a different preview mode. There were only 2 that didn't cause the liveview to freeze the image. I used the Canon preview. Altough, the lines were still going all across the liveview. I converted the Raw2Dng and opened it in after effects. The lines are all over my images.

Thank you,
Ryan

if your seeing the lines during playback on computer it might be same issue I had... turn off dual ISO shooting.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: brunelo on September 26, 2013, 02:55:23 AM
Hi everyone. I dont know how this works very well, so I send you a message directly, I hope you dont mind. I am trying to put ML into my 6D in order to shoot raw video. Well, I install it and when I choose raw video mode and press record button, it happens that the camera turns crazy or something, and then the image on the screen freezes and I get this message. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17520427/IMG_5356.JPG First time I had this problem it said something like "this is a bug, report it". So, as you see, I cant shoot it well, it skips frames and you can see how the image is like stripped or something, not clean as it should be. I followed perfectly your installation tutorial, I dont know what did I wrong  :-[ Is it possible that my sandisk sd (Ultra, 30mb/s) is too slow for raw-shooting? Will I fix it with a better one?  What can I do?
Sorry for my bad English, Im spanish so English is not my natural language.
Thanks a lot for your help and thanks noisyboy for the tutorial, hope you're all doing great!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on September 26, 2013, 03:29:34 AM
8.8 MB/s is the real speed?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: a432511 on September 26, 2013, 06:52:05 PM
Just pulled the latest nightly. I am able to shoot continuous RAW video at 1280x720 (16:9) WITH Canon live preview on. AMAZING! Thanks for the great dev efforts. I took the time to get a Bitcoin account and donate; I suggest everyone here do the same.

I am using the following SD Card: SanDisk Extreme Pro 32 GB SDHC Class 10 UHS-1

Thanks again.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: a432511 on September 26, 2013, 06:55:22 PM
Hi everyone. I dont know how this works very well, so I send you a message directly, I hope you dont mind. I am trying to put ML into my 6D in order to shoot raw video. Well, I install it and when I choose raw video mode and press record button, it happens that the camera turns crazy or something, and then the image on the screen freezes and I get this message. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17520427/IMG_5356.JPG First time I had this problem it said something like "this is a bug, report it". So, as you see, I cant shoot it well, it skips frames and you can see how the image is like stripped or something, not clean as it should be. I followed perfectly your installation tutorial, I dont know what did I wrong  :-[ Is it possible that my sandisk sd (Ultra, 30mb/s) is too slow for raw-shooting? Will I fix it with a better one?  What can I do?
Sorry for my bad English, Im spanish so English is not my natural language.
Thanks a lot for your help and thanks noisyboy for the tutorial, hope you're all doing great!

Looks like you have Dual ISO or HDR video mode on... Can't remember which one. But the description says something about alternating exposure every other line. Just disable that setting. In fact, disable everything except the RAW video module. Enable modules as you need them. Saves memory.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: yacenty on September 26, 2013, 10:33:19 PM
Hi guys,
two questions
1. what are the benefits of raw video?
2. is it somehow possible to have autofocus during video recording.
I'm talking about 6D camera

Thanks in advance
Br
YacentY
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: painya on September 27, 2013, 04:24:44 AM
Hi guys,
two questions
1. what are the benefits of raw video?
2. is it somehow possible to have autofocus during video recording.
I'm talking about 6D camera

Thanks in advance
Br
YacentY
I'm sorry, it looks like there is no possible continuous autofocus while video recording.
And as for the RAW shooting here is a comparison With RAW video there is more dynamic range, and there is a lot more latitude for correcting the image in post. However the workflow has a bit of a learning curve and the file sizes are huge.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on September 27, 2013, 06:31:40 AM
@Noisyboy, I'm a newbie on here so apologies up front for any ignorant questions.

I’m going to attempt to install Ml on my 6d. I have a few questions on your installation procedure on page 1.

Step 5. Format in camera or in cardreader, if so what file system?

Step 7. The Canon manual says to put the camera in the “P” mode, you write to put the camera in “M” mode but follow the manual as well, what mode do I use?

Step 8.5, what filesystem do I chose? Is it required to run EOSCARD afterwards as part of the format process? I think the standard ML procedure lists to format the card in camera. Hence I’m confused here.


Thanks,

Use exfat and use M mode bud :) Oh and also format on your computer. If you have ML installed and you format in camera you don't get rid of the ML files on your card. When you are all up and running and you want to just clear vids/photo's etc off your card without losing ML then formatting in camera is fine. For the purposes of the install just format on your PC. Cheers.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: yacenty on September 27, 2013, 11:20:37 PM
I'm sorry, it looks like there is no possible continuous autofocus while video recording.
And as for the RAW shooting here is a comparison With RAW video there is more dynamic range, and there is a lot more latitude for correcting the image in post. However the workflow has a bit of a learning curve and the file sizes are huge.
is it worth to do raw videos for YT?
any work arounds for autofocus during video? I've heard that face recognition gives better results but do not yet how to enable it.
Sorry but I have 6d only for 2 weeks now
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on September 27, 2013, 11:39:55 PM
I personally wouldn't af while recording. It will mess up expo at the least and you'll have all of the frames of it hunting.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: painya on September 29, 2013, 12:12:53 AM
is it worth to do raw videos for YT?
any work arounds for autofocus during video? I've heard that face recognition gives better results but do not yet how to enable it.
Sorry but I have 6d only for 2 weeks now
It depends what you are shooting. If it is landscape and it is very important for it to look the best possible I'd say yes. But if it is mostly as a hobby I'd learn how to color correct very well.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: yacenty on September 29, 2013, 09:00:49 PM
do we really need to downgrade 6d firmware to 1.1.2 and then install ML and once more upgrade to the 1.1.3
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Marsu42 on September 29, 2013, 10:42:33 PM
do we really need to downgrade 6d firmware to 1.1.2 and then install ML and once more upgrade to the 1.1.3

Yes, until the 113.fir is ready ... but I just did 113->112->ml->113 myself, it's really no problem at all.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Emanuel on October 08, 2013, 03:07:58 AM
1600x670 about 20 seconds / shot with the ExtremePro 85/mbs - and a new tip ;)
Using a hacked Kindle Fire HD with the 6D remote app (as a monitor)
here's one of the latest videos :



Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Pantsworth on October 10, 2013, 06:55:20 AM
Hey all – just letting you know that the install process was fairly trivial and went well. RAW video shooting has worked well – I have the Sandisk ExtremePro 85 MB/s SD card, and it can handle 720p continuous, but I've gotten 1600x600 to work equally well. Pretty much all the features have been great, especially for a pre-1.0 release.

It's been great, but I have one gripe – the separate sound recording. When enabled, the sound doesn't line up with the video (it's typically slightly shorter). It's the same whether shooting H.264 or RAW. Is there a setting I'm missing? Is it a rate issue? Your help is appreciated.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on October 10, 2013, 07:27:23 AM
I think it syncs at 25P, would be nice to find the stretch factor exactly.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: painya on October 11, 2013, 07:19:58 AM
I think it syncs at 25P, would be nice to find the stretch factor exactly.
If it syncs exactly to 25p, and the video is exactly 23.976, 23.976/25=.95904
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on October 11, 2013, 03:56:38 PM
But we need to test it... for some people they multiplied by 1.3. what would that be? 30P?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: a1ex on October 11, 2013, 04:18:29 PM
I think it syncs at 25P, would be nice to find the stretch factor exactly.

It's not tied to FPS at all, but it drops frames. There's no stretch factor to be found, just frame dropping to be fixed.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on October 11, 2013, 04:34:32 PM
Asif doesn't interact with video recording at all though? When I recorded audio on one camera and video on another with a clapper it synced up.

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: a1ex on October 11, 2013, 04:40:20 PM
Audio is recorded at the sampling frequncy (48000 or whatever you have set). If there are no dropped frames, it will sync at any FPS.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on October 11, 2013, 04:46:55 PM
But I get no dropped pieces of audio... just stretch (same camera video/audio).
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: a1ex on October 11, 2013, 04:51:28 PM
Is SetSamplingRate working?

Try something like 22050; if it's not working, you'd notice right away. The WAV header says always 48000.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on October 11, 2013, 04:52:17 PM
It should, I tried other sampling rates before... quality is awful.

Also should add the stretch seems the same on 600D/7D/6D where set sampling rate all works.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Natalia on October 11, 2013, 09:35:26 PM
You rock! I now have ML running on my 6d. The instalation was easy to follow and I can't wait to do some videos! Thank you very much for this!
Is there any guide you recomend for someone who is starting using magic lantern?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: gauravs on October 13, 2013, 05:17:24 AM
Thank you for the post. The steps in post 2 were easy to follow. I had to downgrade from 1.1.3 to 1.1.2 before setting the boot flag.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on October 16, 2013, 08:39:19 PM
1600x670 about 20 seconds / shot with the ExtremePro 85/mbs - and a new tip ;)
Using a hacked Kindle Fire HD with the 6D remote app (as a monitor)
here's one of the latest videos :

You mean you can use it as a monitor while recording?
How does that work?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on October 16, 2013, 09:16:02 PM
I can monitor through USB in video mode and with wifi  in photo mode. I think not much memory/speed loss either way. HDMI is a different story.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: pistachio on October 18, 2013, 08:41:32 AM
Thank you for making this guide. I followed this guide and installed ML smoothly. I know ML can be disabled by holding SET button at startup. But if it is enabled as normal, with all the ML default settings untouched, does ML have any effects on the photos taken? Thanks.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: egorn on October 20, 2013, 08:00:14 PM
Hello guys! Can you help me? I got ML on my 6D, I press trash button, try to configure ML but after some seconds about 9-15 it drops me to Live View, whatever I did. Sorry for my English :(
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: karl on October 21, 2013, 09:21:38 AM
Hi guys! Thanks to noisyboy for this tutorial! I really appreciate the help :).
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: EricPadilla on October 21, 2013, 06:01:14 PM
I followed the instructions and installed successfully on my 6D using a San Disk 16GB card. So thanks for that.

Do I really have to repeat the process for each additional card I want to assign?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Nathanael on October 24, 2013, 12:19:22 AM
Hey,

i'm leaving in France & just bought a 6D on simply electronics. I know it's "grey market", DSLR's are imported from Asia to sell in Europe. It was ok for me, my 6D is really good ! But... a question about the firmware ! I was interested by Magic Lantern for the future, so i cheked if the FW was updated to 1.1.3
But the version of my 6D is : 5.7.4 78 (1f)  :o

What does it mean ?! Can i flash the FW (v 1.1.3) downloaded on Canon website ? And after, can i flash Magic Lantern ?

Thanks a lot  :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: fluxo on October 28, 2013, 07:51:05 PM
hy all,
noisyboy any new update of your Agust zip file?
best regards
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: lbburnsy on October 28, 2013, 11:13:47 PM
So I successfully managed to install the software onto my camera, but once I attempted to shoot I could not record the raw video as it would stop automatically.  The card I'm using is a SanDisk Ultra 32 GB 30 mb/s 10 speed SDHC card.  I have no clue where to go from here...
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Aliiphotos on October 29, 2013, 02:15:06 AM
Hey, thanks for the tutorial. It worked out well but not perfectly for me  :-\ . I have a lot of the features of ML like HDR in photos but the HDR video is greyed out and not an option. Could anyone elaborate on how to fix this problem? Thanks so much!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Exile on October 29, 2013, 07:24:51 AM
So I successfully managed to install the software onto my camera, but once I attempted to shoot I could not record the raw video as it would stop automatically.  The card I'm using is a SanDisk Ultra 32 GB 30 mb/s 10 speed SDHC card.  I have no clue where to go from here...

I'm not sure, but I believe you need UHS-1 speed
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Exile on October 29, 2013, 07:26:42 AM
Hey, thanks for the tutorial. It worked out well but not perfectly for me  :-\ . I have a lot of the features of ML like HDR in photos but the HDR video is greyed out and not an option. Could anyone elaborate on how to fix this problem? Thanks so much!

Are you in video mode? do you have selected an ISO value? you cant select it if your in Auto ISO mode.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: markyramone62 on October 30, 2013, 02:11:40 AM
Hi there,

Another satisfied 6D installer here, thanks for the guide. I took a guess and installed ML on a second in camera formatted SD card starting from Step 11. Hope that was the right thing to do. It worked except now the ML menu appears in a grid format rather than tabs. No big deal, it's all there, just wondering why the difference and is there a layout setting in ML?

Mark.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on October 30, 2013, 02:27:35 AM
Menu toggles it.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: boogotti84 on October 31, 2013, 12:35:22 PM
hey guys just wondering whats the best ML version to put on the 6D at the moment? noiseyboys ML version or Tragic Lantern 6D.
Best as in the most stable and up to date.


As Tragic Lantern 6D build is 14 Oct
https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads

jenkins
http://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/job/6D.113/93/
is this a nightly build??
thanks!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on October 31, 2013, 11:08:38 PM
Since the October 2013 update Premiere Pro CC can actually work with Cinema DNG files natively.
Does anyone have an idea why it doesn't accept the DNG's from the ML RAW file?

And does it give improvement using a 95mb/s card instead of a 45mb/s? Because my 45mb card writes maximum 38-40mb/s stabile, would I get to the slot limit with a 95mb card? Or wouldn't it give a real advantage due to the maximum buffer?

At last, how about recording sound, does it work already? (sorry I was away for some time)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: JCaldwell182 on November 01, 2013, 08:18:35 PM
Thanks so much for this tutorial! I got ML installed and working on my 6D but I'm having some problems with the RAW feature. I get these horrible scan lines, like a bad TV. They're not moving but they're all over the image. It appears no matter which LV mode I choose and shows up on both the camera monitor, my Marshall on board monitor, and in the final file on my computer. Everything works perfectly except for this. Any one else see this or know if its a setting I need to change.

I'm using the install files from the first page. Are those the most up to date versions?

Here's a link to see the video on Vimeo:

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on November 01, 2013, 09:17:06 PM
You turned on dual ISO so your frames are OK  but its an extra PP step.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: JCaldwell182 on November 01, 2013, 10:40:32 PM
Awesome. Thanks. And yes, that solved it.

Another question, is anyone finding that the menu exist automatically after a short period of time. I'll be in the middle of adjustments and it returns to the main shooting screen.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: boogotti84 on November 04, 2013, 12:19:57 PM
yes this happens to me when in live view, but when in stills mode its ok
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: egorn on November 07, 2013, 08:39:39 PM
yes this happens to me when in live view, but when in stills mode its ok
the same problem! Please, write if You solve problem
(not in LV but in Video Mode)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 6Draw on November 07, 2013, 11:21:13 PM
Hi, i arrived today here.
At first i have to thank noisyboy for this easy tutorial! It was quiet easy to follow step after step and make ML for raw-video work. THX! 8)
But now i want to report some bugs:

1st bug is, that the ML-menu flips back in LV after about 2 seconds.
2nd bug is, while recording in raw mode LV freeze after few seconds. 1536x614 @24p

Im using this Version:

"***Update - 24-08-2013 - Updated zip to contain latest module and Autoexec. This is probably the most complete version to date and has Dual ISO, Auto ETTR and Auto Exposure] etc. Again, this is NOT an official release"

What am i doing wrong? Does anyone have the same problems?
thx for your help!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on November 08, 2013, 12:55:28 AM
Menu has been covered, it times out with the canon dialog.

If your LV freezes then you have one of the hacked preview modes on perhaps. Keeps recording while frozen, right?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Yoda on November 08, 2013, 10:05:22 PM
Gents, quick question.  I'm considering moving up to a 6D, I wanted to get a feel on how you guys are liking RAW on your 6d?  I have it on 550D, but I want full frame.  I checked the forum online for max resolution for 6D, but it was blank.  Where are we at with max resolution for 6D in RAW?  Reason IM asking is because I'm wondering if 1900x810 is possible at 24fps?  Im looking for an "anamorphic look" using raw.

Thanks,

Yoda
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on November 08, 2013, 11:02:22 PM
Its 720P or some variation of... if you're buying specifically for raw get a CF camera, don't waste your money.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: leandroprz on November 09, 2013, 06:46:41 AM
Hi guys,

I just installed ML on my 6D by following the instructions on the first post, but I noticed that version is from last month. I guess there has been several bug fixes and changes since then and I was wondering, if I want to install the latest nighly build, I just need to download it from here (http://builds.magiclantern.fm/) and overwrite the files on my card? Or is there a different procedure?

Thanks!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 6Draw on November 10, 2013, 12:14:35 PM
Menu has been covered, it times out with the canon dialog.


If your LV freezes then you have one of the hacked preview modes on perhaps. Keeps recording while frozen, right?



i upgraded 2 hours ago to "magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Nov10.6D113"

It depends on in which menu i'm trying to change something. only in
e.g. if i change the shutter, kelvin or exposure it keeps the menu holding on, but when i activate the raw video function
and change from 16:9 to 2:1 or change the resolution, than it takes less than a second and ML times out.
how can i change that? <- upgrade to "magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Nov10.6D113"

Yes it keeps recording in freeze. (now only in resolutions higher than 1100)

THX
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: zuzullo on November 10, 2013, 01:19:37 PM
Can I use a WiFi card to install ML on 6D?

I am ready to start installing it but its the only card I have!

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 6Draw on November 10, 2013, 03:54:36 PM
Hi guys,

I just installed ML on my 6D by following the instructions on the first post, but I noticed that version is from last month. I guess there has been several bug fixes and changes since then and I was wondering, if I want to install the latest nighly build, I just need to download it from here (http://builds.magiclantern.fm/) and overwrite the files on my card? Or is there a different procedure?

Thanks!

I just overwrote the ML-folder and the autoexec.bin, put the card back in the 6D and rebooted the moduls. Works fine!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on November 10, 2013, 04:04:11 PM
Quote
Can I use a WiFi card to install ML on 6D?

I think the only problem with the wifi cards is some of them can't be made bootable. You would have to try and see if EOScard can do it and if the flags stay.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: zuzullo on November 10, 2013, 10:16:47 PM
I think the only problem with the wifi cards is some of them can't be made bootable. You would have to try and see if EOScard can do it and if the flags stay.

It worked fine :)
The Transcend 32Gb WiFi is bootable!
ML working fine so far.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: leandroprz on November 12, 2013, 01:51:33 AM
Is it possible to remove the bootflag while on 1.1.3?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: RTI on November 12, 2013, 07:03:49 PM
Is it possible to remove the bootflag while on 1.1.3?

That thing bothers me too. I didn't find any info on 6D

EDIT, the search button does miracles...

How fast is your SD Card? Could be a contributing factor. Did you have trouble before installing ML? Might be worth reverting ML settings back to default from inside the ML menu just to make sure you aren't accidentally smashing out some mad high bit-rates.

Try booting the camera while holding the SET button to bypass ML on boot (will make the camera boot up one time without ML).

As suggested - you can always just format your card from a computer and it wont run ML.

If you really need to clear ML completely then follow these steps (assuming you are on firmware 1.1.3):

1: Format a card (in your computer).

2: Copy the 1.1.2 Firmware from the zip in the guide on page one to the SD Card.

3: Pop the SD Card back in the camera and run firmware "updater" 1.1.2 to downgrade the firmware.

4: Power off camera and put SD Card back in computer.

5: Delete Firmware 1.1.2 from the Card.

6: Run EOScard from the zip in step one of the guide on page 1 of this thread.

7: Delete (don't format) the files on the card.

8: Copy the contents of the folder "Files to run Magic Lantern on 6D Firmware 1.1.2" from the zip in step one of the guide, onto the SD Card.

9: Switch the camera to "M" (MANUAL) shooting mode, put the SD Card back in the camera and power it on.

10: Run the firmware updater. What this will now do is run the Developer FIR that you originally used to set the bootflag to begin with and eventually take you to a screen which will prompt you to switch shooting mode to remove the bootflag. So basically, when you see this, turn the dial to "Av" mode. This will then do it's thing and say something like "Bootflag removed" and also ask you to power down the camera so go ahead and do that.

11: Now you can pop the SD Card back in your computer and format it and clear all the ML files off and also you might want to clear all custom settings within the Canon menu to be sure that it's all nice and squeaky clean again. Oh and feel free to re-update your firmware if you want.

If you want ML back then simply follow the guide again on page one of this thread.
 
Any problems let me know. Cheers  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: leandroprz on November 12, 2013, 07:41:55 PM
That thing bothers me too. I didn't find any info on 6D

EDIT, the search button does miracles...
Yes, I know its possible by downgrading, but that wasn't my question.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on November 18, 2013, 10:25:44 PM
How can I enable the cropmarks for the chosen aspect ratio and the expected frame max/buffer fields in the newest built?

And how does sound recording work? Even on less resolution it stops automatically after 5-30sec.
Anyways, I don't get any separated WAV ???
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 6Draw on November 18, 2013, 10:27:11 PM
Hi,
it's quiet a big step from H.264 to 14bit.
May it be possible to shoot in other codecs, between these two, like DNxHD or XDCAM HD 422?
I think this will maybe allow the 6D to shoot in 1080. Thanks for your Answers!

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Yoda on November 28, 2013, 04:27:13 PM
Folks, I'm having a hard time getting an answer to my queries using "search"...so I'll just ask.

Anyone know how much the bit rate is on the 6D using the ALL-I?  Also, anyone know how much the cbr/qscale helps with the 6D?  Raw is nice, but a pain in the rear in POST......seems more logical to get a better bit rate using the standard codec.

Also, anyone know if 6D can get uncompressed HDMI out?  Can't seem to find an answer.

Cheers and thx in advance,

Yoda
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: egorn on November 28, 2013, 07:36:52 PM
Still have problem with ML quiting to canon menu :(
Please, 1%, if it possible solve it. It would be appreciated if you would check this. It is not very convenient to work with this. :'(
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on November 29, 2013, 04:39:22 AM
For the menus, maybe I can just make it drop the scroll wheels instead of closing the menu.

Quote
And how does sound recording work? Even on less resolution it stops automatically after 5-30sec.
Anyways, I don't get any separated WAV

Don't try with raw. There isn't even enough write speed to get much above 720P sizes, adding 2 channels of audio makes it impossible. Maybe 6DII will have CF :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Marsu42 on November 29, 2013, 11:50:11 AM
Maybe 6DII will have CF :)

The annoying fact is - it's not about cf, there are plenty of high-speed sd cards around with even faster standards coming up, it's simply that Canon chose to put a very slow controller into the 6D :-\
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: iantodaro on December 23, 2013, 02:53:12 AM
has anyone used headphone monitoring in this build for the 6d? i've seen people saying that it's working and others saying that it's not.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: WorkFl0w on December 25, 2013, 10:53:01 AM
I use headphones on the 6D and it is working.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Levas on December 27, 2013, 09:04:51 PM
Did anyone here some testing with their 6d and the MLV-rec module and the new sound module ?

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7122.1025

I'm using the tragic lantern build from 30 November and the new MLV-rec and sound build from the topic above.

The first clip after switching the camera on has sound recorded along with the raw clip. Every clip after it doesn't have sound and shows the error message "sound failed to stop, state 4".






Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and Raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: l_d_allan on December 28, 2013, 06:13:05 PM
6: From the zip in step 1, extract all the files contained within "Files to run Magic Lantern on 6D Firmware 1.1.2" folder and copy them to the route directory of your card.

I'm unclear what you mean by "route directory" ... I infer this is "root"?

Quote
11: From the zip in step 1, once again extract and run EOScard.exe. Check the EOS_DEVELOP and BOOTDISK boxes and press save.

Should EOScard.exe be run twice? If so, at what step is the first time to run it?

When I ran EOScard.exe 1.32 with a 32GB SD card, it seems to hang / freeze for 5+ minutes with message:
"Checking latest ML ..."

It wouldn't close, and I had to use Window's TaskManager and "End Process Tree" to close the window.

Another ML thread related to the 7d mentioned EOScard.exe ver. 1.40, but I wasn't able to find a valid download link.

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: hoglis on December 30, 2013, 03:10:26 PM
I just installed ML on my 6D (with firmware downgrade to 112 and re-upgrade) and the installation worked fine!

Thank you 1% (and all the others) for the port. Thank you Noisyboy for the "noob guide" dude.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Razor on January 01, 2014, 08:09:08 PM
I'm experiencing some problems with EOScard, it's getting stuck looking for the latest version of ML. I recently upgraded to Windows 8.1, so I don't know if that might be causing some trouble. Does anyone know how to work around this? Simply copying the ML files to my card doesn't seemt to work
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Sin City Stan on January 01, 2014, 09:19:22 PM
Thanks to all that participated in this thread.  I tried to install ML on my 6D back in November and gave up after a dozen tries.  I decided to try again this morning and it took 10-15 minutes and I was up and running.  I think the mistake I kept making in November was using Firmware 000212 instead of 212 but nonetheless I'm happy to have ML back.  The first thing I noticed was that the Advanced Bracketing function does not work properly.  It should have taken 7 pics from -EV4 to +EV4.  I got 10 pictures with the same exposure.  Not a big deal at this time as Canon has provided almost the same range.  Just thought someone should know.  Testing the invalometer next.  Then some video.

Just noticed that the Sticky DOF button does not work either.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: bhushangahire on January 07, 2014, 07:22:37 PM
I just installed ML on my 6D (with firmware downgrade to 112 and re-upgrade) and the installation worked fine!

Thank you 1% (and all the others) for the port. Thank you Noisyboy for the "noob guide" dude.

I also followed the same but not working for me. Anything I am missing?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on January 08, 2014, 12:37:47 AM
I also followed the same but not working for me. Anything I am missing?
Well, i guess you are missing some steps.
That guide is the one everybody followed so it definitely works.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: bhushangahire on January 08, 2014, 02:13:21 AM
Well, i guess you are missing some steps.
That guide is the one everybody followed so it definitely works.

Trust me buddy I followed all the steps. I get success screen for setting bootflag after downgrading 112. But nothing happens when I upgrade to 113 and replaces files with 113 folder.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Mpist on January 08, 2014, 10:14:08 AM
Hi,
I want know only if when you write "format your card" is (mac user) format with the disk utility ---> format the card ---> FAT32
Can I delete the folder DCIM and MISC by card?
Thanks
 
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: electrichobo on January 09, 2014, 08:07:09 PM
What is our highest resolution capable continuous right now? (in raw)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: bhushangahire on January 10, 2014, 01:58:06 AM
Trust me buddy I followed all the steps. I get success screen for setting bootflag after downgrading 112. But nothing happens when I upgrade to 113 and replaces files with 113 folder.

I got it working now. Those who are facing issue make sure you use 16 GB card. I got it working with 16GB and later its working on 32GB card as well.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: CINETIK on January 10, 2014, 05:56:23 AM
i seem to have the same issue. it works on 1.1.2 but it does not contain the "Module" section for RAW recording so as instructed I then i proceed to upgrade the firmware to 1.1.3 and follow the steps to upload the ML items that should work on that version however, it results in a frozen camera. I'm actually ok with 1.1.2 considering the cool features it adds for video recording, but not being able to record RAW it upsets me heaps and I continue trying back and forth with no different outcome. 
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Mpist on January 10, 2014, 04:10:14 PM
How soon do you think will come out a version Nightly Build?

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: a1ex on January 10, 2014, 04:23:56 PM
When there will be a developer willing to maintain this port.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Mpist on January 10, 2014, 06:49:17 PM
Many people are switching to 6d and I also understand that they obviously had to think about relaise more important as the 5D2/3... but I think it's time for a 6d official relaise. I hope...
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: l_d_allan on January 11, 2014, 06:56:34 PM
When there will be a developer willing to maintain this port.

It's tempting to get involved with the 6d port. I did C and C++ development for 20+ years, but I'm really rusty.

FWIW: much was low level, real-time embedded medical devices, where a "bricked patient" was frowned on.

I suppose a primary goal would be to "un-fork" the 6d port ... so it is a "first class citizen" of ML?

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: l_d_allan on January 11, 2014, 07:55:57 PM
I also followed the same but not working for me. Anything I am missing?

I did get the 6d Nov. 30, 2013 build installed and working. Whew.

However, it was a rather "lumpy", trial-and-error procedure. Two steps forward, and one step back.

IIRC, it took several attempts after getting firmware 1.1.3 down-graded  to 1.1.2.  I don't recall the exact steps that finally resulted in TL being operational ... I was pretty much just trying something, and hoping for the best, and that the 6d wouldn't brick. Very nerve wracking.

My speculation is that glitches with EosCard.exe 1.3.2 were some or most of the problem? Operator error?

It was not a procedure I look forward to doing again.  YMMV.

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: a1ex on January 11, 2014, 08:00:47 PM
I suppose a primary goal would be to "un-fork" the 6d port ... so it is a "first class citizen" of ML?

Yes. The code from the main repository should work fine, but it's very likely a bit behind TL. The 50D (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9852), 7D (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9848.0) and EOS M (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9741) are in the same situation, but they seem progressing.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on January 11, 2014, 08:05:42 PM
All the code is already up so one just has to copy it back into ML and leave out the bits you don't like. Probably the main things behind are anything left over from 112 and audio functions. Just have to diff the platform folder and main files like shoot.c, etc.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: l_d_allan on January 11, 2014, 08:07:02 PM
The first thing I noticed was that the Advanced Bracketing function does not work properly.  It should have taken 7 pics from -EV4 to +EV4.

If you were doing +1 EV change, than it would seem like 9 exposures would happen. With +2, it would have been 5 exposures. Were you using +1.3 EV or +1.5 EV or +1.6 EV as the "bracket delta change between exposures"?

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I got 10 pictures with the same exposure.  Not a big deal at this time as Canon has provided almost the same range.  Just thought someone should know. 

I've used Advanced Bracketing some, and also recall that it was glitchy ... just kept going. The work-around seemed to be giving a fixed change of +2 EV and a fixed number of brackets ... usually 3.

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Testing the invalometer next.

My experience has been that the 6d implementation seems different than the 5d2 and 600d implementation. Changing "modes" ... like Manual to AV ... for Bulb to Manual ...  is supposed to turn the intervalometer OFF, but the 6d seems to just keep going in the new mode. I have to turn the camera OFF to get the Intervalometer to stop. Maybe that is "as expected"? Or operator error?

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on January 11, 2014, 08:20:25 PM
Menu is supposed to stop the intervalometer. I'll check behavior vs 7D but only thing added was a patch to name the brackets B01, etc and that is the same for all cameras. Some of these things are bugs in general for both ML/TL. And I have the same problem where nobody mentions it and works the way I use it then some extra case comes up and stuff happens.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: l_d_allan on January 11, 2014, 08:41:00 PM
I'll check behavior ... and stuff happens.

I do want to mention that I am Extremely Appreciative that there is a port for the 6d. Thanks for the time and effort ... and impressive talent that you (1% and others) have put into it.

My use of the intervalometer is often with Bulb, when doing StarTrails. With the 5d2 and 600d, my recollection is that changing from M to AV stopped the intervalometer, but perhaps my memory is faulty, or that changed.

BTW:
My other "use case" for the intervalometer is stage performances. Up in a "crow's nest", I'll have the 5d2 with 14mm or 35mm taking a picture every minute or so, to get an overall shot of the different "acts" going on during the 70 to 90+ minutes. I'll have the 200mm on the cropped 600d taking zoomed-in shots for duets and soloists.
http://berean.zenfolio.com/bpm_worship_sampler/h5fb45182#h5fb45182
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on January 11, 2014, 10:43:19 PM
Well both 7D and 6D stop the intervalometer if you change modes but they don't turn it off. So if you go into the menu again it will start again.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Mpist on January 12, 2014, 01:07:10 PM
Sorry, I have 4 question urgent:
First, so it's official that you have to use 16gb card to install TL?
second, to use more card with TL I just have to copy the files in all card or perform the operation with the macboot on all cards?
All my cards are 32 gb can I use them? or I need to shop one 16gb card to install TL??
It' possible use a TL with 112 framework and how problem i have??
I'm not very interested to shooting in RAW (I can survive without it) but more to the various essential functions such as cropmarks and recording continuous...


P.S. You have not answered the question "format card procedure"...
I'm waiting on my TL before installing 6d me be clear that all the steps and your feedback ... so as not to make mistakes.
Thanks
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: l_d_allan on January 14, 2014, 12:43:49 AM
First, so it's official that you have to use 16gb card to install TL?

My understanding is that cards less than 16gb (like 8gb and 4 gb , etc) will work ... so it isn't "just" 16gb.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on January 14, 2014, 02:46:46 AM
I don't own any cards < 32gb... but its been a whiiiiile. I think the problem starts at 64gb cards.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: JusT92 on January 20, 2014, 10:49:41 PM
will the SanDisk Extreme Pro SDHC 32GB Speicherkarte 95Mbps get the max. ~50mb out of my 6D while recording video ?

iam looking forward to buy an fast card for raw .. 32GB or bigger
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on January 20, 2014, 11:53:45 PM
I don't think anyone has gotten that high with any sd card. Most I've seen is 42 or 43 and it wasn't steady.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: TWeistar on January 22, 2014, 08:22:03 AM
Just did an ML update (I Think) on my 6D. based on this recent tutorial on YouTube.
Maybe I didn't get the older version uninstalled?

I had what I think was an earlier version running on my 6D. So I want to verify that I updated. My menu on my 6D now reads Firmware ver. 1.1.3. no mention of ML like on my 60D the menu reads Firmware ver.1.1.1-ml-v2.3

Also it is behaving the same as far as I can tell. No audio gain controls in the ML menu. Unless I change from "Normal" to "Separate WAV" in the menu.

On my 60D I have digital and analog gain controls for audio levels and I can monitor with head phones using a modified AV cable. Do you have either of these features on your 6D now?

I have been waiting and  hoping for this for a long time so I really appreciate you help here.

Thank you very much
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Kapuhy on January 23, 2014, 10:49:05 AM
TWeistar, make sure you have the Sound recording enabled from Canon menu. It works good for me - that youtube video is based on the instructions found in this forum.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Marsu42 on January 23, 2014, 11:04:08 AM
will the SanDisk Extreme Pro SDHC 32GB Speicherkarte 95Mbps get the max. ~50mb out of my 6D while recording video ?

With the 6d, think "40mb/s max.".
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Kapuhy on January 23, 2014, 02:29:19 PM
I have one question though - do those magiclantern-tragic builds for 6D carry a version indication someplace that can be displayed from the menu?  Or is it only date on the autoexec.bin file that differentiates them (except for some code changes I suppose).
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: l_d_allan on January 23, 2014, 03:23:09 PM
I have one question though - do those magiclantern-tragic builds for 6D carry a version indication someplace that can be displayed from the menu?  Or is it only date on the autoexec.bin file that differentiates them (except for some code changes I suppose).

Agree.

I miss having the message appear showing which version is installed. This seems to be the standard on other ML supported cameras. Usually, it appears once, which is sufficient to confirm that the installation went ok. IIRC, you can check at the Debug Menu to confirm which version is install, at least on cameras other than the 6d.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: TWeistar on January 24, 2014, 08:45:31 PM
TWeistar, make sure you have the Sound recording enabled from Canon menu. It works good for me - that youtube video is based on the instructions found in this forum.
Yes it works if I do that but there are no gain controls with ML. Are you able to adjust audio gain through the ML menu?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on January 24, 2014, 08:53:51 PM
ML nightly - no audio controls
TL - audio controls
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Kapuhy on January 24, 2014, 09:02:15 PM
Yes, I can change the gain there:

(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farturkociola.com%2Ftmp%2Fml%2FVRAM0.BMP&hash=aeeb0a3a4113218dd7fee0b3d6769d96)

(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farturkociola.com%2Ftmp%2Fml%2FVRAM1.BMP&hash=89a7f173f4a2dfb95dc06274cc3705f7)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: RTLdan on January 28, 2014, 04:10:11 AM
Hi Everyone,
 Just wanted to start by saying thanks for such an amazing job. Magic Lantern is the best, and so are the people who make it happen!
Now, I haven't read every single page in all the ML RAW threads, so sorry if this has been addressed before.
I've been experimenting with the use of MLV_REC on my 6D (TL Jan18th Build) tonight, and had three questions/issues.

1. When I select the 6D's max continuous framerate for RAW, we are not using the full 1920 x 1080 resolution, and so magic lantern shows us a little crop box of the resolution the RAW video will be recorded at. This is great. However, when I actually hit record, the box disappears and I'm looking at a full 1920 crop again, which is not easy to work with. It would be great if we were able to keep that box so we can make sure our framing is ok. As of now I've just been guessing. Global draw is not off on my camera either. (I've got the waveform monitor on.) So am I missing something, or is this the state of things? And if it is the state of things, do the devs foresee a fix this as something that is possible?

2. I tried out the MLV Sound recording while shooting raw. Everything worked fine for my short clips at 44.1.
The only thing weird thing that happened is that they would not play on the computer through quicktime or VLC. I do audio work, so I loaded it up into my DAW and it played just fine. So the actual audio is in the file, but for some reason something isn't communicating with the computer's basic audio players.

3. Finally, I'm sure this has been asked for and talked about a lot, but I'll throw my opinion in too...
It would be great if there was a way in the future to play back both the MLV video AND audio in camera. Because of the experimental nature of some of this stuff, it would be immensely helpful to be able to make sure the info is there before moving on to another shot. It would be heartbreaking to find audio didn't record on one of the files.

Thanks again for everything you do and have done!
I hope my observations can help with future development!

-Daniel Rheaume
Portland, Oregon
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: dallasill0 on January 28, 2014, 01:13:11 PM
The link at the beggining is Tragic lantern, or Magic lantern?
http://ge.tt/api/1/files/14cvNmp/0/blob?download

Anybody try the last of TL?
https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads

Is It better install the first or the last???  The most important think for me is the ETTR + Deflicker to Timelapses...

But in the version that I have (October) Doesn't appear in ETTR, the Midtone SNR and Shadow SNR options...
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Virindi on January 28, 2014, 06:31:42 PM
Is there any way to know what is new in the latest versions...?
I think I have the one from november 30 installed.  :o
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on January 28, 2014, 07:35:17 PM
Last one I put up was jan 18th
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: D6-2035 on January 29, 2014, 06:38:51 AM
Amazing work! Managed to install without any problems. :)

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: johnmac1952 on January 30, 2014, 09:57:00 PM
Just wanted to say thanks to noiseboy and 1% for their work on the Tragic Lantern for the 6D.
I was using ML on my Canon 550D and since have gotten a Canon 6D. I am so happy that ML/ TL is available
for my new camera. Once again..... thank you all very much!!!!

 :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Xavierus on January 31, 2014, 08:41:58 AM
Hello guys! First, thank you all for your work, magic lantern is superb! I was using it on my old Canon 550d and I was VERY happy with it.

Now I bought a new Canon 6d and want to try it out with ML and I have a question. I heard that there is some drawbacks when using ML on Canon 5d mark 3 and some of them can't be undone. Something about increased boot time or so. So I wonder if I will try ML on my Canon 6d and then for some reasons will want to remove it completely (for example to trade it for Canon 5d mark 3), can ML removal be done completely and without drawbacks on Canon 6d ?

Thank you!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: D6-2035 on January 31, 2014, 07:12:57 PM
Hi. I've installed ML on my 6D a couple times and completely removed it again (incl. the bootflag).
You do that when the ML successful installed green text screen shows in M-mode dial. You simply rotate the mode dial to B for example, the text turns white and you read the message: "Bootflag successfully removed". Then you restart the camera, clear all camera and custom settings and format the SD card, done.

ML can be removed and there is absolutely no impact on the start-up time with or without bootflag on the 6D.

Initially I thought that the battery usage with ML went up a lot more than ~5% and I think that may be the case. Focus peaking and magic zoom are so nice that's why I can easily live with that.

I'm using 2 SD cards. One for normal shooting (no ML) and one SD card when I want to take videos (ML installed on that card).
Wish the recording time would be displayed in much larger text.

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Marsu42 on January 31, 2014, 07:49:21 PM
ML can be removed and there is absolutely no impact on the start-up time with or without bootflag on the 6D.

That's certainly an interesting piece of information concerning the fud about ml & the bootflag, thanks!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: D6-2035 on February 01, 2014, 06:19:10 AM
I checked again, bootflag adds maybe 0.5s to the start-up time, not noticeable to me and it can be removed it you chose to do so.
After a bit of a learning curve I love ML. Nice to be able to configure/save the settings and copy over to other SD cards. Great work!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: mmarley on February 04, 2014, 10:51:51 PM
Hi
i ve got a 6D
everything works untill step 11-- then if i open the EOScard.exe  and ty to save it tells me its a zip file and it fails
if i continue untill step 15 nothing happens if i press the trash button---
tried it twice and didnt get the lantern  :-[

PLEASE HELP !!!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: D6-2035 on February 05, 2014, 02:45:11 AM
I'd follow this, worked 100% for me and is easy.


Published on Jan 17, 2014
A short tutorial on how to install the latest ALPHA version of magic lantern on your Canon EOS 6D DSLR camera. NOTE: This is a dev version and I cannot guarantee the safety of your gear, you have been warned. With that said, I have not experienced any problems with it so far so enjoy the install tutorial!

Download .RAR file: http://bit.ly/1auplFt

1. Download and extract .rar file.
2. Check if 6D is running 1.1.2 firmware.
3. Put "Canon 1.1.2 Firmware" .fir file on SD card and install it on 6D. Format SD card on computer.
4. Put "Files to run Magic Lantern on 6D Firmware 1.1.2" three files on SD card root directory.
5. Install ML 1.1.2 on 6D (in "M" dial mode). Turn off and pull batteries out and format SD card on computer (VERY IMPORTANT).
6. Put "Canon 1.1.3 Firmware" .fir file on SD card and install it on 6D. Turn off 6D, take out 7. SD card and put it into computer.
7. Run "EOScard.exe" program on PC. Check off "EOS_DEVELOP" and "BOOTDISK". Press save.
8. On computer erase all files on SD card.
9. Put "Files to run Magic Lantern of 6D Firmware 1.1.3" three files on SD card root directory.
10. Put SD card back into 6D and turn it on. Press the trash can button. Magic Lantern is now installed!

Shot and edited by Kraig Adams of www.kadamsmedia.com and www.wedfilmschool.com.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Kwarts on February 05, 2014, 01:56:41 PM
Thank you very much for this very helpful video. The ML website is rather technical and your video shows its not really difficult to install the ML software on a 6D.
Unfortunately making a bootable SD card with Fusion or Parallel running on a newer Mac doesn't work. Below is the text from VMware Fusion support site:

Internal SD card reader is not detected by Fusion (1035825)
This issue occurs on Macs with an SDXC (SD extended capacity) card slot and not on Macs with an SD card slot.
 
This issue occurs because the SDXC card slot included in newer Mac models is connected to the Mac using the PCIe bus and not using the USB bus that the original SD card slot uses. Therefore, the SDXC card slot cannot be connected to a virtual machine as a USB device.

A solution not mentioned by VMware is to connect a card reader to the USB port or ask a friend to do it for you on a Windows machine. :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: D6-2035 on February 06, 2014, 04:45:21 AM
Thank you very much for this very helpful video. The ML website is rather technical and your video shows its not really difficult to install the ML software on a 6D.
Unfortunately making a bootable SD card with Fusion or Parallel running on a newer Mac doesn't work. Below is the text from VMware Fusion support site:

Internal SD card reader is not detected by Fusion (1035825)
This issue occurs on Macs with an SDXC (SD extended capacity) card slot and not on Macs with an SD card slot.
 
This issue occurs because the SDXC card slot included in newer Mac models is connected to the Mac using the PCIe bus and not using the USB bus that the original SD card slot uses. Therefore, the SDXC card slot cannot be connected to a virtual machine as a USB device.

A solution not mentioned by VMware is to connect a card reader to the USB port or ask a friend to do it for you on a Windows machine. :)

I guess that's the one time only where you wish you had a Wintel computer :-)
Hope you get it to work.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: savange on February 09, 2014, 11:57:52 AM
Great work guys! One more question: How can I install this Magic Lantern-version on a second and a third SD-card? Do I have to do this steps again or do I have to repeat all steps from number 1? Thanks!



"By noisyboy:

8.5: Seriously, FORMAT YOUR SD CARD DUDE! Even if you are used to this whole Magic Lantern thing - just do it. It saves the risk of potential problems which I can't advise you how to fix.

9: From the zip in step one, extract the Canon 1.1.3 Firmware and place onto the route directory of your SD Card.

10: Put your SD Card back in your 6D and With a full battery, upgrade your cameras firmware to 1.1.3 as per the Canon 6D instruction manual. Once this is finished, power down camera and remover the SD Card.

11: From the zip in step 1, once again extract and run EOScard.exe. Check the EOS_DEVELOP and BOOTDISK boxes and press save.

12: Navigate to your SD Card and delete (DON'T FORMAT) all the files you can see there.

13: From the zip in step 1, extract all of the files and folders contained within the "Files to run Magic Lantern on 6D Firmware 1.1.3" folder and drag them into the route directory of your SD Card.

14: Put the card back into you camera and switch on.

15: In "M" (MANUAL) shooting mode, power camera back on and hit the Trash button. Voila! Hello Magic Lantern Menu"
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 09, 2014, 02:05:51 PM
Step 11 to 15 will do.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Freemountain on February 09, 2014, 03:44:13 PM
Has anybody any experience with 1%s updates from this thread?
https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads (https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads)
They were recommended at the beginning of this thread but I never tried them. I mean, of course they are good, otherwise 1% would write them, but what are the improvements?

All builts for the 6D are broken is what I just learned in the chat. A friendly user helped me a bit with that link: http://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins (http://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins)
Can someone comment on that?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: nefiwashere on February 09, 2014, 10:21:20 PM
Does anyone have the issue were you try to play video on camera and it freezes up. Have to do a battery pull.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on February 09, 2014, 10:52:51 PM
Yea, if you have a failed recording on the sd card like MVI_XXX.dat it will lock up the player, delete those
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Kapuhy on February 11, 2014, 02:45:53 PM
Has anybody any experience with 1%s updates from this thread?
https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads (https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads)
I have been using the TL builds on 6D without major issues, just downloaded the one from Feb 8th and it seems ok as well.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: shenriksson on February 11, 2014, 07:53:58 PM
Installed Feb08.6D113 version and it works nice. Very good instructions for installation, easy to follow the steps. I have been using ML for 550D some months now, and i missed ML in my 6D.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: gcrook on February 11, 2014, 09:28:40 PM
Guys pardon me for asking pretty basic or off-topic stuff ,but i have some questions that are not very clear in this forum,or propably i can't find the right answers via a search.
Since i will be buying a 6d soon i would like to know the following.

What is the max live view 1:1 dng resolution and the max 5x crop resolution?  (dont care about continuous recording at this point) .Do i have selection of aspect ratios like my 550d?
No nightly builds being developed for example like my 550d?Are the basic features working mostly as far as ml raw and timelapse (intervalometer/ramping) is concerned?Are these available through tragic lantern only?
Will 6d be supported via nightly builds or possible future unified build?
Audio levels/gains/monitoring etc? (ths is pretty important for me for live events)

Sorry for hijacking the thread.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: savange on February 12, 2014, 09:04:44 AM
Step 11 to 15 will do.

Thanks, so I will do it to copy Magic Lantern on two more SD cards :)

@ 1%: Im interested in the technical aspekt and I'm only wondering: What is the reason we have to install an old firmware first and then installing the newer firmware for the 6D? I mean everything will be delted if I upgrading the firmware and then format the SD card. So why we have to do those additional steps? I'm sure there is a reason, but I'm only interested in that :) Thanks!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: fish-head3 on February 12, 2014, 12:19:17 PM
Hi

Am not a tech person. I have a 6D and think ML is great after playing with it on my 50d. I loaded it on my 6d and now the autofocus doesn't work.

Any suggestions please?

Many thanks
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: ilguercio on February 12, 2014, 01:13:23 PM
Send it over to me and i'll chuck it in the bin. I'll pay the postage.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Foley Productions on February 12, 2014, 01:56:12 PM
Just a suggestion from a total noob (to this material)...how about creating a (Locked) sticky and placing the install guide...possibly a RAW guide...and maybe listing of best cards...etc.   Although I have been lurking for the last few days going through the numerous/endless pages on development, it would be easier for us new folks to get the information that is neeeded - quckly.   With my insane schedule I very rarely ever get time to just cruise a forum...would be nice to have a quick spot to grab the latest...

...just my $.02
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on February 12, 2014, 03:33:24 PM
Quote
@ 1%: Im interested in the technical aspekt and I'm only wondering: What is the reason we have to install an old firmware first and then installing the newer firmware for the 6D?

Encryption.

Quote
I loaded it on my 6d and now the autofocus doesn't work.

Boot without a card in, try af, reset canon settings, try again. Otherwise check the settings (ML too) + key mappings. You could have changed shutter button behavior, etc.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: fish-head3 on February 13, 2014, 12:16:12 PM
Thanks 1% but no progress.

I cleared all the Canon settings. In MLI went to Shoot Preferences and put Use Autofocus to On. IS this what you were suggesting?

Any other thoughts?

Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: fish-head3 on February 13, 2014, 12:51:47 PM
Hi 1% - just an update - the autofocus won't work when the shutter is pushed halfway down. It will work when the AF-ON button is pushed. Any suggestions please?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on February 13, 2014, 06:15:35 PM
Yea, go into canon settings. There should be one I think custom function for setting the behavior of the shutter button... ie AF + AEL or AF only or AEL only.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: fish-head3 on February 17, 2014, 11:08:04 AM
Thanks 1%, all fixed
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Marsu42 on February 18, 2014, 06:49:28 AM
I have been using the TL builds on 6D without major issues, just downloaded the one from Feb 8th and it seems ok as well.

I have been using TL on the 6d for quite some time, and recently switched back to ML now that the a working 6d port and nightlies are available again.

After some days or direct comparison, unless you need a specific TL feature I can only advise everybody to use the ML 6d build instead of TL - it's great 1% has done all this work and I'm very thankful for it, but there a simply a lot of quirks to crashes in the TL flavor that just don't happen with ML.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: D6-2035 on February 20, 2014, 01:06:20 AM
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Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: D6-2035 on February 20, 2014, 01:07:16 AM
I have been using TL on the 6d for quite some time, and recently switched back to ML now that the a working 6d port and nightlies are available again.

After some days or direct comparison, unless you need a specific TL feature I can only advise everybody to use the ML 6d build instead of TL - it's great 1% has done all this work and I'm very thankful for it, but there a simply a lot of quirks to crashes in the TL flavor that just don't happen with ML.

OK, I followed this http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3904.50
and it works just fine. I copied the ML folder and autoexec.bin after downloading from http://builds.magiclantern.fm
to my card and now using ML.
Title: Re: 6D - Magic Lantern and raw Shooting General Discussion
Post by: motonerd on February 21, 2014, 11:55:37 PM
Modules in ML folder... raw_rec has to load and its in the movie menu.

Hey guys.

Ive completed the tutorial thanks a lot however after copying the latest files to my SD card (copied and paste) I dont have the RAW video option where described. Sorry to be a nuisance, any ideas?

I found where to add modules but when I restart the camera, the Raw video module is throwing an error :/

Ignore my stupidity. was using the wrong module :P
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Freemountain on February 22, 2014, 04:44:02 PM
I might report a bug, but am not yet sure about it: I loaded the latest ML release on my 6D last night and today I tried the advanced bracketing. It works fine but somehow EXIF data always reads 0 for the EV value. That causes issues in HDR pp then. Also when I now use the Canon bracketing or just different exposure values I get no value but 0 in the EXIF. Any hint on what could be wrong? I also bootet the camera with the set button to turn of ML but to no avail...
EDIT: Did some more research - it only works when I use the Av mode, not in M, eventhough that is what ML recommends. Av writes correct EXIF data. With my old 350D it also works perfect in M mode and gives me changes in EV value. Can somebody comment on that? Is it a 6D thing or did I ruin something with a TL version?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 22, 2014, 05:10:14 PM
Which exif field are you talking about? Tag "Exposure Compensation"? This is zero for all my shots and PS CC, Photomatix, SNS-HDR are working fine.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Freemountain on February 22, 2014, 06:05:57 PM
As my EXIF is in german it says "Lichtwert" which translates as exposure value, probably the same thing, though. I worked with luminance HDR as an open source software and it obviously is dependent on the EXIF data. Nevertheless, I still am wondering why I get the exposure values with my 350D in all modes and why is M recommended in ML?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 22, 2014, 06:16:01 PM
So etwas wie "teutsches EXIF" jibt es jar nuescht!
Lade Dir mal das Exiftool herunter, kopiere die Dateien, die untersucht werden sollen, in das Exiftool-Verzeichnis und fuehre
Code: [Select]
exiftool *.cr2 -ExposureCompensationauf der Kommandozeile aus.
Dann kommt was wie
Code: [Select]
======== B01_0431.CR2
Exposure Compensation           : 0
======== B01_0432.CR2
Exposure Compensation           : 0
    2 image files read
raus. Wenn die Dateien von der 350D dort einen Wert ungleich 0 haben, hat Dein Tool ein leichtes Problem, das die mir bekannten Tools nicht haben.

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Freemountain on February 22, 2014, 06:26:49 PM
Ich wechsel wieder zu Englisch, damit der Rest auch was davon hat ;)

Walter suggested, that I use an EXIF tool to read all my EXIF files and it showed me a exposure compensation of 0 even if it said 1.7 in the windows exif exposure value (right click on image --> properties --> details). As long as the latter is not 0 luminance HDR can produce good HDR, when it says 0 (in M mode) I get bad results. Trial of photomatix worked with both. I dont want to discuss software issues here but was just wondering why these exposure values differ in M mode in my EOS 350D. It also reads 0 in the EXIF tool under exposure compensation but reads something other than 0 during bracketing in the windows properties of the file. Oh man, this is gettin complicated...
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 22, 2014, 06:44:50 PM
Well, that's a software issue not related to ML. If you find out which exif tag is used by Luminance HDR you have to address the tool's programmer(s) to solve the problem.
There is another option: Change exif values to match the tool's needs. Some scripting involved but possible.

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Freemountain on February 23, 2014, 01:48:27 AM
No, actually I was no longer referring to the issues with HDR building but rather to why I don't get exposure values in my EXIF when using the M mode...
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: okuri71 on February 26, 2014, 01:36:08 AM
Hi guys, just popped-in to say that you made a great work. Keep going!

I followed the install guide of noisyboy and all went well.

Now I'll try to understand the nightlybuilds.

Ciao
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: noisyboy on February 26, 2014, 06:30:09 PM
Hey Magic Lanterners! So the last few months have been mental-crazy for me as I'm lucky enough to have successfully left my day job and gone freelance into the film making bizniz (with a huge help form my Magic Lantern pimped Canon DSLR and the ML community along the way) but it's left me with very little time to keep up to date with the developments . I have every intention of getting back on here as much as I can so I can geek out and learn with the rest of you but in the meantime it would be great if someone could take a look at the guide I wrote on the first page of this thread and see if anything needs updating. It just makes more sense when there is probably a lot of stuff I have missed and will take me a good week or so of solid forum time to get up to speed so if anyone wants to check it out and let me know if there are any unnecessary steps or bits that will make life easier then I can update it and of course I'll credit you in the thread accordingly. Thanks a lot guys and love to the Devs & Mods for still keeping this place the best community on the internet x  8)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: okuri71 on March 01, 2014, 03:47:23 PM
Hi!

Aboute the zipped file to download for installing ML, I was wondering if the 6D000113.FIR is necessary in the "Files to run Magic Lantern on 6D Firmware 1.1.3" folder to be copied on the SD card?

It's already in the "Canon 1.1.3 Firmware" folder.

Thanx
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 01, 2014, 03:52:13 PM
2nd post on the first page contains detailed instructions. Please read and act as described.
At the time now: You are doing it wrong.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: AeroGirl on March 03, 2014, 09:13:51 AM
Over the week end I got my new Canon 6D, lovely camera, and a nice upgrade from my 60D with it's Full Frame sensor.

Now I love Magic Lantern on my 60D, I use it mainly for the Intervalometer, and advanced bulb timer etc for time lapse photography.

I was hoping to put ML onto my 6D, and looking at the instructions you need to downgrade the firmware to v1.1.2 first, which I have no problem with, except that my Camera has come with v1.1.4 of the 6D firmware.  From my searching it appears that v1.1.4 has yet to be released by Canon, I have been unable to located that version of the firmware anywhere to download, so I am a little reluctant to downgrade to v1.1.2, since I will then not be able to go back to v1.1.4 until it is released officially.

So does anyone know how to backup the existing firmware, and also if ML will work with version 1.1.4?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: l_d_allan on March 03, 2014, 03:20:17 PM
From my searching it appears that v1.1.4 has yet to be released by Canon, I have been unable to located that version of the firmware anywhere to download

Very interesting. I've asked about firmware 1.1.4 on the DPReview sub-forum that is specifically for 1D, 5d, 6d full-frame models.

It also might be worthwhile to check directly with Canon tech support.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Marsu42 on March 03, 2014, 03:54:37 PM
So does anyone know how to backup the existing firmware, and also if ML will work with version 1.1.4?

On cheap cameras like the 6d Canon usually releases only bugfix fw updates that addresses issues you'll most likely never ever encounter, like compatibility with the 200-400L in combination with gps near the south pole... look at the past fw changes to get an idea. Also ML most likely won't be updated to 1.14 very soon ever after fw release, so you'll have to downgrade to 1.13 anyway.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on March 03, 2014, 05:13:45 PM
I was hoping for a 5D3 equivalent firmware update. They really owe us the mirroring mode, even if we have to turn it on ourselves.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Marsu42 on March 03, 2014, 05:52:22 PM
I was hoping for a 5D3 equivalent firmware update.

And pigs can fly :-> ... my #1 one wishlist item would be to add af patterns fw code so we're not stuck with the "all or nothing" situation anymore.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on March 03, 2014, 07:09:24 PM
they only add that on the complex AF cameras, the only thing we got was the switchable AF depending on how you hold the camera. so gained nothing and lost af patterns.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Marsu42 on March 08, 2014, 07:19:25 PM
except that my Camera has come with v1.1.4 of the 6D firmware.

I'm curious: Can you tell what has changed on the 1.1.4 6d fw? Thanks!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: bookemdano on March 08, 2014, 10:03:32 PM
Hi all, a bit green still with all this but am picking things up fairly quickly. I have a couple of questions I'm hoping someone might help me with. For starters I've got a 6D, already have TL running on it just fine. Picked up a couple of Sandisk Extreme Plus 32GB, which are supposedly 80 MB/s cards. In another thread, someone here claimed to get really good results with them. Anyway, here are my questions:

1. For what I'm trying to do I would *really* like to get sound recorded along with the raw video on the 6D. From a bit of research it seems this is now possible using mlv_rec.mo along with mlv_snd.mo. However, when I try to add these modules (from the ZIP in the first post here: https://secure.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7122.0) and enable them, when I reboot they show up as "err" and do not load. I also saw a compiled version of mlv_rec.mo on 1%'s bitbucket repo so I tried that one too, same result.

So I think I'm probably missing some crucial piece of knowledge here. I know mlv_rec works with TL on the 6D because I saw someone post about it: https://secure.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7122.msg96937#msg96937 (https://secure.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7122.msg96937#msg96937) but I am either not installing the correct module files or maybe I need a different build of TL? I have only tried the most recent one from 28 February.

Can someone point me in the right direction as to what I need to do to get mlv_rec and mlv_snd working with TL on my 6D. If I need to compile them, is there a "dummies" tutorial for that somewhere?

2. OK so I have no pipe dreams about what kind of continuous resolution I am going to be able to get. I know the 6D's SD controller is the limiting factor here. But I think I saw someone get 720p (1280x720 I assume) working continuously. My question is what if I choose a 4:3 aspect ratio? Should 1024x768 be possible continuous? Is it just based on the total number of pixels? So say for a given number of vertical lines (say 720) a 4:3 aspect ratio would require less write speed than a 16:9 AR? I mean this makes intuitive sense to me because there are less pixels involved. But I just wanted to make sure that I'm correct on that before I go assuming.

What about with the addition of audio (which I do not need any kind of fidelity on, if that is adjustable. I'm just recording a beep track that I need to be synchronized with the frames). With the 6D's limited SD controller should I be able to get 1024x768 raw along with audio continuously without dropping frames?

It's ok if no one knows that--I plan to experiment with it. Just wondering if others have tried to see what they could get continuous with audio.

Thanks a lot for any help/tips people can provide. And a big thanks to 1% for making this possible on the 6D.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on March 08, 2014, 10:57:45 PM
The mlv_rec/mlv_sound/autoexec all come as a package. If you take one from another build it may be old or not compatible. With any card that can do at least 40MB/s you should be able to pull of 1280x720 with sound.

Quote
Is it just based on the total number of pixels?

Its based on the data rate. Whatever you can fit into that ~40MB/s is good.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: bookemdano on March 08, 2014, 11:27:26 PM
The mlv_rec/mlv_sound/autoexec all come as a package. If you take one from another build it may be old or not compatible. With any card that can do at least 40MB/s you should be able to pull of 1280x720 with sound.

Thanks, 1%. I am showing more ignorance here but I thought the autoexec was the heart of TL vs. ML. So if I use the autoexec included with the mlv modules am I still using TL on my 6D? Or I guess to turn it into a practical question there is no problem using a ML autoexec with TL? Or are you saying I need to compile mlv somehow to work with your autoexec? Sorry for the pedantic question.

Quote
Its based on the data rate. Whatever you can fit into that ~40MB/s is good.
So 1024x768 should have a lower data rate than 1280x720 right? :)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on March 09, 2014, 12:33:18 AM
1024 should be less data.

what goes together is autoexec.bin + the sym file in the modules folder. Then you can load mlv_rec or mlv_snd up to the point where there are major changes and they become incompatible. If you use all of the files from the same zip you are pretty much good.

so for example you can load TL modules while running the ML nightly or vice versa if they are from around the same time. but if you have a bin from 6 months ago and try to add new modules you might run into errors/crashes/incompatibilities
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: stu4084 on March 14, 2014, 04:41:33 PM
Need a little help, I had to send my  6D into the factory with my lenses. When it came back ML would not work. Any ideas on what would have happened or what I need to do?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on March 14, 2014, 04:48:38 PM
redo the boot flag/install
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: stu4084 on March 14, 2014, 05:08:33 PM
redo the boot flag/install

So just do the whole process over, that is what your saying?
I'm guessing they reinstalled 1.1.3 while they had the camera.

Thanks.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on March 14, 2014, 09:08:47 PM
pretty much. until an installer can be made for 113.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Cloud_Walker on March 17, 2014, 05:27:35 PM
Hey guys, quick question now that I'm seriously considering RAW video for my day to day work...

Is it not possible to get a full field of view when shooting RAW at resolutions lower than 1080p?  In other words, if I want to match the field of view of regular h.264 footage, I would either need to zoom out or buy a wider lens - if I'm shooting RAW at, say, 720p - correct?

Thanks!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Mpist on March 19, 2014, 02:04:25 PM
Hi,
I saw that has been released a nightbuild of magic lantern but then there is no need to do the whole procedure to downgrade to 1.1.2 firmware ???
It's possible to install directly the nightbuild version?

Thanks
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: 1% on March 19, 2014, 04:15:10 PM
there is an installer for 113 now. it booted up on my cam so no need to downgrade anymore.... until 114
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: leandroprz on March 19, 2014, 11:00:21 PM
there is an installer for 113 now. it booted up on my cam so no need to downgrade anymore.... until 114

Where can we download the installer?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: a1ex on March 19, 2014, 11:12:25 PM
http://builds.magiclantern.fm/
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Pelican on March 19, 2014, 11:38:58 PM
The 1.1.4 fw is out so the 1.1.3 fw upgrade not available from Canon now but still downloadable from EOScard's home page.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: leandroprz on March 19, 2014, 11:53:11 PM
http://builds.magiclantern.fm/

Thanks!

I thought I was missing something because I did not find it there when I posted my comment, but now I see you just updated it.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Etrocal on March 22, 2014, 03:00:32 AM
I'm not sure if this has been addressed, apologize in advance if it has.  It seems when shooting RAW video on the 6d (1600x68 I think) the color temperature and sometimes exposure seemingly either adjust automatically or darken/brighten.  The camera is entirely set to manual, expo adjust is off, are there any setting in the ML firmware that cause that?

Also somewhat unrelated but I've been digging into Raw2dng and was wondering if there's a version out that I haven't found that pulls out the .dng's from RAW files but doesn't take the time to compress it to ProRes4444.  Thanks!
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on March 22, 2014, 02:11:55 PM
Why are my results getting worse and worse with each build? I remember in mid 2013 when I was able to record 1472x626 contineously without any issues.
With the latest buildt from March 14th I'm not even able to do 1280x544 more than 15s before frames are skipped and the display freezes. 

It shows me continous recording possible up to 864x486 (16:9) at 16.7MB/s ?!  Am I the only one?

(using a SanDisk Extreme 45mb/s)
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Marsu42 on March 22, 2014, 02:54:23 PM
Why are my results getting worse and worse with each build?

Why do you think ML is the cause? SD cards deteriorate with prolonged use, did you try a new card or an old ML build to verify?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on March 22, 2014, 04:54:19 PM
you think it's the card?
I guess it's like 10 months old and wasn't used very intensley. gonna test the 95mb/s card I'll recevie on thursday.

update: you were right. worked fine with another 45mb/s
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: slurpies on March 24, 2014, 11:40:52 PM
Why are my results getting worse and worse with each build? I remember in mid 2013 when I was able to record 1472x626 contineously without any issues.
With the latest buildt from March 14th I'm not even able to do 1280x544 more than 15s before frames are skipped and the display freezes. 

It shows me continous recording possible up to 864x486 (16:9) at 16.7MB/s ?!  Am I the only one?

(using a SanDisk Extreme 45mb/s)

This happened to me recently with the 45mb/s card and I tried upgrading to the 95mb/s pro, and didn't see a bit of difference.  Then I realized my picture settings had switched back from RAW only to RAW + L Jpeg, so it ended up being my problem. 

I still don't get any benefit from the pro vs. extreme 45, but they're both reliably fast. :) Good luck on whatever the issue is.
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: random on March 25, 2014, 02:01:53 PM
no benefit at all?

I expected the transfer rate would be at least a little higher, like 42mb/s max or even 45mb/s. so you're max is still 720p continously?
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: Marsu42 on March 25, 2014, 02:10:36 PM
I expected the transfer rate would be at least a little higher, like 42mb/s max or even 45mb/s. so you're max is still 720p continously?

You appear to be a willing marketing victim, maybe they should sell double-platinum sd cards with gold crested border and an exclusive swarovski crystal in the center ... but 6d's sd controller is simply maxed out at 40mb/s :->
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: hmoorenz on March 25, 2014, 09:43:34 PM
Just installed latest build and lost control over audio gain, is there anyway to get this back? And also my menu is disappearing after 2secs of inactivity, can I make that period longer? Thanks in advance
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: slurpies on March 26, 2014, 06:27:46 AM
no benefit at all?

I expected the transfer rate would be at least a little higher, like 42mb/s max or even 45mb/s. so you're max is still 720p continously?

I just basically did a series of tests in record seconds between the two and was surprised at first, but realized that basically was the resounding message on the forum; that the 45mb/s card was really the best cost/performance wise.

Using the same build on both, at 1792 I get 16 seconds on the 45mb/s card, repeatedly.  15 seconds on the 95mb/s repeatedly.  Sometimes 16 on it.  They're both legit cards as well.  Just bought the 95 from Best Buy a few days ago.

I guess it's possible at a long record time that one could outdo the other in a trivial matter, but overall for now it seems best to just shoot with the 45.  I could be wrong though :)   
Title: Re: 6D - Install guide and raw shooting.
Post by: schedonnardus on March 26, 2014, 03:21:00 PM
Hey everyone, new 6D owner here!  I just installed ML using the instructions on page 1 of this thread.  I'm pretty noobish at this (but have rooted phones in the past, so this process was pretty straightforward). 

My question is: does anyone recommend a specific build to run that's fairly sound? I know that the development is ongoing and nothing is 100%, just trying to get my feet wet.  I'm really more interested with the photo settings for now, though I plan on shooting some video from time to time.

Big thanks to everyone that works on ML!