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Using Magic Lantern => Shoot Preparation => Topic started by: sparedog on February 08, 2013, 01:25:30 PM

Title: Extreme pro 90Mbs? Meh, more like extreme dissapointment
Post by: sparedog on February 08, 2013, 01:25:30 PM
I bought a Sandisk 8Mb Extreme Pro 90Mbs to replace my  Sandisk 8Mb Extreme 30Mbs. I wasn´t getting noticable differences in being able to record higher bitrates so I did some bench marks.

Here are the results
EXTREME 30Mbs
(http://i48.tinypic.com/122ci6e.jpg)

EXTREME PRO 90Mbs
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2yy1k3m.jpg)

and ML benchmark tests

EXTREME PRO 90MB/s card
(http://i45.tinypic.com/dxit92.jpg)

EXTREME 30MB/s card
(http://i50.tinypic.com/9pxc48.jpg)

I would love to see other people´s benchamrks for these 90Mbs cards as this one was definately not worth the money!
Title: Re: Extreme pro 90Mbs? Meh, more like extreme dissapointment
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 08, 2013, 02:06:48 PM
Êither your cardreader doesn't like your SanDisk card or (more likely) you have purchased a faked card -> product piracy or you have an USB 2.0 device.  USB 2.0 will be the bottleneck limiting transfer speed to about 40 MByte/s.
I have a Hama USB 3.0 cardreader not able to run at full speed with my SanDisk Extreme Pro. Kingston USB 3.0 is up to the task and > 85 MByte/s is not bad at all.
You haven't mentioned camera type, card type and cardreader type used. Please more details next time ...

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Extreme pro 90Mbs? Meh, more like extreme dissapointment
Post by: 1% on February 08, 2013, 04:32:50 PM
the comparable pro cards advertise 50mb sustained and 90 read. sandisk acts like its got 90 sustained r/w. I think its lies.

the difference between the non liars' tiers is 50 vs 35. real world drop like 5 or 6 mb. Before uhs, most cards struggled to do 25/MB sequential write.

i don't see anyone achieving these speeds in anything but usb 3 readers and only for read.
Title: Re: Extreme pro 90Mbs? Meh, more like extreme dissapointment
Post by: sparedog on February 08, 2013, 05:31:35 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on February 08, 2013, 02:06:48 PM
You haven't mentioned camera type, card type and cardreader type used. Please more details next time ...

Ciao, Walter

Appologies for the half post

The camera is a 6D, the card type is as above, the card reader is built in to Asus G73, unfortunately I cannot find anything on the net about which speed the card reader is.

I bought the card from a very well known camera shop in Barcelona, Jordi Bas, so I would have assumed that it was real, however, how do shop owners know whether they are buying real stock? (that is a question, not a rhetorical statement)

True the card reader may be to blame, but the 6D should be pretty fast at writing, right? =D
Title: Re: Extreme pro 90Mbs? Meh, more like extreme dissapointment
Post by: Marvin on February 11, 2013, 11:28:51 PM
built-in card readers is definately USB 2.0
Title: Re: Extreme pro 90Mbs? Meh, more like extreme dissapointment
Post by: Pelican on February 12, 2013, 12:50:41 AM
The card is one thing and your camera is another thing...

Lexar Professional 1000x in 5D mkIII
(http://pel.hu/down/Lexar1000x5D3.bmp)

Lexar Professional 1000x in 7D
(http://pel.hu/down/Lexar1000x7D.bmp)

I'm using a 32 GB Transcend 400x UDMA7 card in my 7D and it has a specification of 60MB/s write and 90 MB/sec read speed, but I can read the data from it with a Transcend USB 3.0 card reader above 110 MB/sec.
Title: Re: Extreme pro 90Mbs? Meh, more like extreme dissapointment
Post by: 1% on February 12, 2013, 03:38:44 AM
But that 5d3 speed is cf...
Title: R: Extreme pro 90Mbs? Meh, more like extreme dissapointment
Post by: nanomad on February 12, 2013, 07:01:00 AM
The 7d is cf too ::)
Title: Re: Extreme pro 90Mbs? Meh, more like extreme dissapointment
Post by: 1% on February 12, 2013, 07:30:26 AM
But those are cf 4.0 vs cf 5.0 speeds 7d is a standard behind.

these cards aren't UHS-II, they promise 90mb read/write but I think its burst, competitors bench where his camera is at.

I think I found the other problem:

*'Set Hi-Speed Mode( 96MHz )'
Title: Re: Extreme pro 90Mbs? Meh, more like extreme dissapointment
Post by: nanomad on February 12, 2013, 08:43:57 AM
I think so... I'll test the UHS-1 card I've got too
Title: Re: Extreme pro 90Mbs? Meh, more like extreme dissapointment
Post by: 1% on February 12, 2013, 03:24:00 PM
Look in the Fw... 100MHZ is uhs 50... 208 is UHS 104 :(
Title: Re: Extreme pro 90Mbs? Meh, more like extreme dissapointment
Post by: coutts on February 12, 2013, 03:54:19 PM
note: fixing shoot_malloc() in the 6d (it worked in previous commits but lately I notice it doesn't) should fix the "read test skipped" message.
Title: Re: Extreme pro 90Mbs? Meh, more like extreme dissapointment
Post by: 1% on February 12, 2013, 04:29:04 PM
Ok, I'll look at it, I thought shoot malloc worked....

ML repo for 6D is hella out of date.

the test doesn't fail from shoot_malloc it fails because of

//void* buf = alloc_dma_memory(bufsize);

This works:
      void* buf = shoot_malloc(bufsize);

it skips because

if (bufsize > 1024*1024) bmp_printf(FONT_MED, x, y += font_med.height, "read test skipped: buffer=%d\n", bufsize);

if you force it on dma memory allocation you get an assert