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Using Magic Lantern => Hardware and Accessories => Topic started by: meanwhile on January 24, 2020, 02:03:11 PM

Title: Current situation with EOS M and monitor
Post by: meanwhile on January 24, 2020, 02:03:11 PM
I *think* - based on reading comments in Zeek's videos - that the current situation is that any monitor with 1080p should be reasonably expected to work?

And that the monitor will show ML's focus peaking and false color, etc?
Title: Re: Current situation with EOS M and monitor
Post by: ngemu on January 25, 2020, 05:59:16 AM
yup! haven't heard of any monitor issues as long as your using the 1080 / mcm rewire mode.

Just remember to get a good sd card and your set!
Title: Re: Current situation with EOS M and monitor
Post by: Danne on January 25, 2020, 07:48:47 AM
- delete - Answer to wrong post...
Title: Re: Current situation with EOS M and monitor
Post by: meanwhile on January 25, 2020, 09:37:39 PM
Quote from: ngemu on January 25, 2020, 05:59:16 AM
yup! haven't heard of any monitor issues as long as your using the 1080 / mcm rewire mode.

Just remember to get a good sd card and your set!

Thanks! For sd cards, I'm planning on using Sandisk Extreme Pro 95MB/s.
Title: Re: Current situation with EOS M and monitor
Post by: meanwhile on January 26, 2020, 07:35:36 PM
Quote from: ngemu on January 25, 2020, 05:59:16 AM
yup! haven't heard of any monitor issues as long as your using the 1080 / mcm rewire mode.

Just remember to get a good sd card and your set!

Ok... So having researched this, what you are saying is that those monitors only work when the camera is shooting in 1080 - aka Movie Crop Mode. Doesn't this mean

1. Very short shooting times?

2. Aliasing problems? Because the "anamorphic" modes that avoid these problems aren't 1080

...So in fact the value of a monitor with the M shooting raw isn't high? (This is based on

https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9741.msg224538;topicseen#msg224538)
Title: Re: Current situation with EOS M and monitor
Post by: yokashin on January 27, 2020, 07:20:19 PM
Look at ZEEK video

Magic Lantern RAW Monitor | FEELWORLD F570 WORKS w/ No Pink/Dropped Frames MV1080 |

https://youtu.be/5HPOKoVhPNA
Title: Re: Current situation with EOS M and monitor
Post by: masc on January 28, 2020, 01:08:05 PM
Quote from: meanwhile on January 26, 2020, 07:35:36 PM
Ok... So having researched this, what you are saying is that those monitors only work when the camera is shooting in 1080 - aka Movie Crop Mode. Doesn't this mean

1. Very short shooting times?

2. Aliasing problems? Because the "anamorphic" modes that avoid these problems aren't 1080

...So in fact the value of a monitor with the M shooting raw isn't high? (This is based on

https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9741.msg224538;topicseen#msg224538)

MCM rewire mustn't be crop.
1. No: this mode has long recording times because of small resolution (compared to other modes)
2. Yes, this mode brings a lot of moiree

->Yes, the value is small using an external monitor, because the EOS M maximum working recording quality is reduced.
Title: Re: Current situation with EOS M and monitor
Post by: meanwhile on February 01, 2020, 12:58:18 PM
Quote from: yokashin on January 27, 2020, 07:20:19 PM
Look at ZEEK video

Magic Lantern RAW Monitor | FEELWORLD F570 WORKS w/ No Pink/Dropped Frames MV1080 |


Thanks. Like I said in my first post, I started with Zeek's videos - and then reading the comments I found that the information in the video (not this one) was obsolete but that the video hadn't been updated. So as an information source, problematic. But if you say this one is still relevant, that's great.

Edited to add: having just talked about this with Zeek on youtube, I'd really caution anyone against using him as an information source. He doesn't get that just posting "External monitors work fine with the EOS M" is problematic when they only work with lower quality modes, as long as he's happy with those modes. A nice guy, but what he posts can be misleading because it's incomplete. Or it's obsolete and no longer the case at all, but he keeps the video up anyway.
Title: Re: Current situation with EOS M and monitor
Post by: meanwhile on February 01, 2020, 01:02:39 PM
Quote from: masc on January 28, 2020, 01:08:05 PM
MCM rewire mustn't be crop.

Thanks!


Quote
1. No: this mode has long recording times because of small resolution (compared to other modes)
2. Yes, this mode brings a lot of moiree

->Yes, the value is small using an external monitor, because the EOS M maximum working recording quality is reduced.

That's not great news, but I appreciate knowing the real situation - now I can plan what to do.