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Title: Crop mode 5d3 2880X1320 Animals
Post by: anandkamal on November 06, 2016, 10:06:40 PM


friends, I tried, for the first time, the crop mode magic lantern settings with a 50mm canon lens in my 5d mark III (august 2015 build).
2880X1320 with Global drawing On, histogram and waveform On, mlv sound Off.
There were frames skipping but I continued so that the recording goes for longer than 6 seconds.

Mlv to cdng by raw2cdng
Colored in resolve
music converted to wav in premiere, added to resolve (resolve doesn't accept mp3)

I would happy to know what could have made the video better.. Thanks.
Title: Re: Crop mode 5d3 2880X1320 Animals
Post by: PaulHarwood856 on November 07, 2016, 12:57:27 AM
Hey anandkamal,

     Cool video! I think if you sdd some stabilization inpost, like warp stabilizer in Premiere Pro it might help with some of the shake. The colors are nice. Maybe bump the exposure up a bit in your editor? Or try overexposing slightly since you can recover highlights. Another thing to try is expose to the right via the ETTR module. Great work!

- Paul Harwood
Title: Re: Crop mode 5d3 2880X1320 Animals
Post by: anandkamal on November 07, 2016, 06:24:02 AM
Sure. Thanks Paul :) I couldn't stabilize in resolve. The output from premiere is kind of muddy as the black levels look changed. I would also like to know the best settings for vimeo to retain sharpness and contrast.
Title: Re: Crop mode 5d3 2880X1320 Animals
Post by: PaulHarwood856 on November 08, 2016, 01:58:45 AM
     You're welcome anandkamal!  :)

     I'm going to tell you how I export in Premiere Pro/Media Encoder, and hopefully it will apply in Resolve as well.

     Make sure your timeline is set at the ratio you filmed at. Unless you shot 16:9, and want to export 2:35:1, then change the aspect ratio to 2:35:1 in your timeline, and edit.

     In the export window, export as H.264, 4096 x 1742, Scale to Fill (this is for 2:35:1, you need to figure out 4K online for different aspect ratios), your frame ratio, Square Pixels (1.0), Profile High, Level 5.2, Render at Maximum Depth checked, VBR, 2 Pass, Target Bitrate (Mbps) 100, Maximum Bitrate (Mbps) 300, Use Maximum Render Quality checked, Audio Codec AAC, 48000 Hz Sample Rate, Channels Stereo, Audio Quality High, Bitrate (kbps) 320, and Precedence: Sample Rate.

     Hope this helps!

- Paul Harwood

     
Title: Re: Crop mode 5d3 2880X1320 Animals
Post by: hyalinejim on November 08, 2016, 01:41:04 PM
You would definitely benefit from some stabilisation during shooting, by either using an image stabilised lens or, if you don't have one, this:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/887720-REG/Kinotehnik_lcdvf3c_LCDVF_Viewfinder_for_Canon.html

Camera shake is the biggest issue with the video above.
Title: Re: Crop mode 5d3 2880X1320 Animals
Post by: PaulHarwood856 on November 08, 2016, 03:29:02 PM
Hey anandkamal,

     hyalinejim has a great point. I use a Tamron 17-50 f2.8 VC and it works great for image stabilization. A viewfinder, along with a monopod would be of great help. Check out Revolve's monopod for $20:http://www.revolvecamera.com/collections/all/products/monopod-for-revolve-camera-dolly (http://www.revolvecamera.com/collections/all/products/monopod-for-revolve-camera-dolly)

You can even add some feet for pretty cheap on Amazon.

- Paul Harwood
Title: Re: Crop mode 5d3 2880X1320 Animals
Post by: hyalinejim on November 08, 2016, 05:54:20 PM
I have that same lens, Paul, and I think it's a perfect match for the 5d3, especially combined with the crop mode which gives you a 24-210 reach in a single lens.

I'm going to sell my 24-105, which is a PITA due to its low transmission and variable aperture at anything other than f4 (which is more like f5 point something).
Title: Re: Crop mode 5d3 2880X1320 Animals
Post by: PaulHarwood856 on November 09, 2016, 03:16:33 AM
Hey hyalinejim,

    Just to clarify, the Tamron 17-50 f2.8 VC is for Canon APS-C. Does it work with the 5D Mark III with no vignetting? I love this lens, it's very cinematic with beautiful flares. Maybe you're thinking of the Tamron 24-70 f2.8 VC? I always thought the Canon 24-105 was good, because of IS, but I've never used it. Is it that bad?

- Paul Harwood
Title: Re: Crop mode 5d3 2880X1320 Animals
Post by: anandkamal on November 12, 2016, 12:22:47 AM
Thank you so much Paul for the info on export settings and stabilizing equipments :) Thanks hyalinejim. I am gonna get those :)
Title: Re: Crop mode 5d3 2880X1320 Animals
Post by: PaulHarwood856 on November 12, 2016, 05:01:16 AM
Hey anandkamal,

     You're welcome, glad to help!

- Paul Harwood
Title: Re: Crop mode 5d3 2880X1320 Animals
Post by: Simonwb on November 12, 2016, 09:58:28 AM
Quote from: PaulHarwood856 on November 09, 2016, 03:16:33 AM
I always thought the Canon 24-105 was good, because of IS, but I've never used it. Is it that bad?

If we're talking about the Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L I can vouch for it as an excellent photo and video lens and on that basis I've got the mkII on pre-order.
Title: Re: Crop mode 5d3 2880X1320 Animals
Post by: hyalinejim on November 12, 2016, 03:09:14 PM
Oops! Sorry - I meant the Tamron 24-70, which I'd recommend over the Canon 24-105 mk1 for full frame.
Title: Re: Crop mode 5d3 2880X1320 Animals
Post by: PaulHarwood856 on November 16, 2016, 01:17:35 AM
Hey hyalinejim,

     It's all good! How is the focus ring on this lens? The focus ring on the Tamron 17-50 f2.8 VC is easily moved and has a short throw...

- Paul Harwood
Title: Re: Crop mode 5d3 2880X1320 Animals
Post by: PaulHarwood856 on November 16, 2016, 01:19:01 AM
Hey Simonwb,

     This looks like a good lens for full frame, since f2.8 is really nice because APS-C DSLRs have trouble with high ISO noise. Have you used it on cropped sensor DSLRs before? I've read 24mm is not wide enough.

- Paul Harwood
Title: Re: Crop mode 5d3 2880X1320 Animals
Post by: Simonwb on November 16, 2016, 09:12:16 AM
Quote from: PaulHarwood856 on November 16, 2016, 01:19:01 AM
Have you used it on cropped sensor DSLRs before?

@PaulHarwood856

No, full frame only, on which the mk1 EF 24-105 f/4 IS is wide enough at 24mm (tho' a little distorted, where I'm hoping for improvement with the mk2). I think you'd be right about it maybe not being wide enough on a crop sensor - for which I can certainly recommend the EF 16-35 f/4 IS as a great lens!
Title: Re: Crop mode 5d3 2880X1320 Animals
Post by: PaulHarwood856 on November 16, 2016, 11:08:01 PM
Hey Simonwb,

    That does look like a nice lens! Would work well on both APS-C and full frame. I currently use the Tokina 11-16 f2.8 DX II for the 7D and T3i and love it. But I would love to have a Canon L lens. I was debating purchasing the Canon 70-200 f4 L used, but there's a Tamron 70-200 f2.8 new for a couple hundred $ more. And there's a Tamron 70-200 f2.8 VC for even more, but way cheaper than Canon. Though Canon lenses probably communicate better with Canon DSLRs, just like Canon batteries versus Wasabi. I love Wasabi batteries, but I was able to snap more photos quicker with Canon batteries.

- Paul Harwood