Hi there , im trying to shoot Video in Dual Iso mode. Im a windows User and i read this guide (Tutorial - Guide to using Dual ISO Mode on your Canon 5D Mark III) which was suggested in this thread (Dual ISO - massive dynamic range improvement (dual_iso.mo) ).
While in the post it suggests to extract the DNGs and then use CR2HDR ( thing that i have done but then it doesnt read the files into adobe premiere pro cc ) , in the guide mentioned above it says to use avisynth to split all the A frames to the B frames to create a C frames with obviously no lines. The guide talks about Main.cmq command etc so i think it is written for Mac users and seems to be very simple so i think that i'm complicating things that should be simpler.
So the question is : Which of the 2 ways should i use to get to edit my dual iso videos?
Than: if i should use Avisynth , how can i use it on windows easily? ( it talk about opening a text file and adding command lines which seems to be too complicated to me)
Thank you for your support
Try this http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11056.0
Avisynth? Are you mixing things up with HDR post workflow?
The workflow in the tutorial uses HDR + Dual-ISO and Avisync is used to handle the HDR part. You are not using the HDR option so I suggest not using this workflow.
ok guys thank you very much ,
so then in i got a video recorded with the dual iso option what should i do to edit it on premiere like any other dng file?
I do not understand the reason why if i get the raw file and after i extract all the DNGs once i process them in CR2HDR adobe premiere doesn't read the file and gives me a line of error .
You'll have to ask Adobe why they aren't willing to fully support their own "open standard". Bottom line: the files out of cr2hdr are not CinemaDNGs (an extension to the DNG standard) and Premiere only opens specific "flavors" of CinemaDNGs, basically only cDNG files that come from specific cameras (or cDNG files that are very similar to ones by specific cameras).
Many of the MLV/RAW converters output cDNGs that are compatible with Premiere and others, but cr2hdr does not.
AFAIK, MLVFS is the only converter that can output dual ISO converted cDNG files that will open with Premiere, and only the Mac/Linux versions have this capability (Windows version is far behind and unmaintained). So you can either use MLVFS on a Linux VM, or use something besides Premiere (like AfterEffects) to convert the DNGs to some video format that Premiere can read.
MLP for mac will repack the dual iso dng files so that they work in Premiere as well. (Thanks to cpc).
What is needed is this text file in the A_lut_hold folder.
MLV_RAW_dng_repack_16bit.txt
Thank you very much guys and sorry to bother again .
Danne i have an old Mac with me that should support the MLP ; could u just tell me the exact steps to work those files ? Once i download the MLP i just drag the files and it works? thank you
Check page 2 and page 10 in the user_guide to start with. I think the info there is enough.
I assume you have the MLV or RAW files still or did you obtain the dng files some other way?
Tell me if it worked or write a line in the MLP thread.
user_guide
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4tCJMlOYfirSmVSbFdQQ0tELVU/view
Don,t forget to add
MLV_RAW_dng_repack_16bit.txt
I still have the MLV file and i also have the DNGs extracted with CR2HDR. Im trying ill let u know asap thank you.
But where am i supposed to download and add MLV_RAW_dng_repack_16bit.txt ?
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Inside the folder A_dan_log_3d_luts you find the dcraw_FFmpeg_settings folder and inside of that folder you will find the file. Put that file in A_lut_hold folder and run MLP by right clicking a folder with MLV/RAW files.
Ok Danne im am a very newbie about computer staff so for me it is very hard since i dont know anything. I copied the only raw file a did to my mac where i installed all the MLP stuff correctly.
So my raw file in on my mac desktop but if it is necessary i can put it in a folder. Where do i find these Folders u r telling me? Than i have this MLV file on my mac desktop but when i right click on it on the menu there is no MLP as shown in the guide. In the guide it shows that MLP is under the "services" but when i right click i dont find it. It just suggests me to open it with miraViewer or i can choose other.
My Mac Os X version is 10.6.8 and should be if i am not wrong Snow Leopard
Ok, kind of hard to know what,s wrong here but let,s give it a try.
1 - Double click MLP to install. It should move to the library/services location.
2 - Put the RAW file in to an empty folder
3 - Right click the folder with the RAW file inside of it. Here MLP should pop up in the services menu?
4 - Select MLP and it will create the two additional folders inside the folder
5 - Go and get the MLV_RAW_dng_repack_16bit.txt file and add it to the A_lut_hold folder and run the MLP workflow once again by right clicking on the folder again.
If these steps doesn,t work could you redo all the steps from scratch and create a screen recording of what you are doing?
Ok Danne maybe im hard of hearing but i still dont get it.
I understood that if i would found the service tab and mlp it should make 2 more folders and one should be a lut hold....but where do i find MLV_RAW_dng_repack_16bit.txt ?????????
Than...i did all the steps u told me and i dont see the services tab. Could my Mac osx version be obsolete for this? Can i open the raw file opening first MLP automator and then dragging the file in?
Thank you
Hold on. Seems something broken with the latest upload of MLP. Let me see if I can fix it soon.
I,ll check into what,s wrong soon, meanwhile this version should work. Sorry for the inconvenience.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4tCJMlOYfirZ1p1X2lEUXpzSEU/view?usp=sharing
Danne im doing everything u r telling me but it is not working...i used this version but the problem is the same...in library/services/ there isnt any mlp...i even tried to move it manually into the services folder but it doenst appear...the only thing that appears in the menu is Toast since it appears also into the services folder....what do i have to do?
yoooooo maybe it is working ....i'll let u know in a sec
Ok one step ahead , the program does everything we said before...we only one problem...the dngs generated are not readable for premiere pro...is That possible?
Everything is possible. If you added the MLV_RAW_dng_repack_16bit.txt file to the A_lut_hold folder it should work. What version of premiere are you running?
I also uploaded a new version of MLP in the MLP thread which fixed the problem before.
Im running the latest ...adobe premiere pro cc....I did all the steps and copy /paste the file above into a_lut_folder but the DNGs r not readable
Could you test this image sequence in premiere pro and see how it reacts?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4tCJMlOYfirX0hHOGNMcWR0YVk/view?usp=sharing
It works great
Strange. Only file in my A_lut_hold folder is the MLV_RAW_dng_repack_16bit.txt file.
Did you wait until the automator wheel dissappeared(up in the top of the window? It could happen you didn,t wait for the repack step to finish?
Also try downloading the latest version from the MLP thread now.
well in my a_lut_Folder there are 3 files and then i paste the one u told me....should i remove those 3 files? ( which are : MLV_RAW_dng_dcraw_any:command.txt - MLV_RAW:dng_gamma_2.4_0.txt - MLV_RAW_dng_straight_to_prores444.txt )
well in my a_lut_Folder there are 3 files and then i paste the one u told me....should i remove those 3 files? ( which are : MLV_RAW_dng_dcraw_any:command.txt - MLV_RAW:dng_gamma_2.4_0.txt - MLV_RAW_dng_straight_to_prores444.txt )
Shouldn,t matter if they are still there. You could try with only the repack file though.
One thing...the thing u told me of the wheel in automator etc.....in my case when i right click on the folder automator doesnt open at all...all the files start to appear Dng by Dng till it is finished so maybe it is doing it in background
The DNG files should get a little smaller in size after repacking. if 5MB they end up to something like 4.6MB. This way you can tell that the repacking took effect.
If you can upload a test sample RAW file that would be good.
The automator wheel is simply a very small icon on top of the screen. Showing?
Danne how do i know the first size if im doing the operation on the MLV file?
Ok i just made the dng conversion as i was doing before and the DNG is 3.96M and when i do the operations on the mac the file that i get back is 3.49M
So, is it working?
Also check with and without audio file to see if that could be the problem?
No the problem is not the audio file it doesnt work anyway....i just downloaded the new source from the thread hoping it will work
while i launch move_binaries.command in the shell it says MPV missing
Mpv is optional so shouldn,t be needed. DO you have a sample file I could test over here and send you back?
do u want me to send the MLV file or the dngs?
the sample file i have is 1.53GB
It,s a little big. Could you find something smaller? Or upload the big one if you like. Only takes a little longer. I would need the MLV or RAW file.
Ill make a smaller one right away
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5poHZaYBAS_N0EwTmdsV3dfTDg
Here you go...can u download it?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5poHZaYBAS_N0EwTmdsV3dfTDg/view?usp=sharing
this is the one sorry
Here is 10 of your DNG files converted and repacked. I took out the audio. Tell me if it works.
https://sprend.com/download.htm?C=f7806b2145e2463d9fc245749ade941a
yes it works ...premiere pro reads the file...i also saw that the extension is in capital letters ( DNG ) does it change anything?
Yes.
Can you zip your version of MLP and send it to me. It,s in the ~/Library/Services/ folder.
do this. Press shift + cmd + g. In the prompt copy paste ~/Library/Services/ to get to the MLP workflow.
There could be a problem with exiftool or dcraw which could be related to either your OS X version or who knows.
Im doing it....Danne im writing from italy ...here is very night time so after the file is loaded i might not answer u for a little while...anyway ill get in contact asap. I gotta solve this for night shootings.
Thank you for your time and if it is not too invasive for u and there is a way to talk on a more immediate platform im sure we can solve it very quickly , cause i think im mistaking something very simple which is under my nose. Any way thank u
here you go
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5poHZaYBAS_SlNuOEVLYjlwVVE/view?usp=sharing
Not sure why it,s not working. It,s working here. You can try to replace exiftool with an older build. It,s in the content folder inside the workflow. Replace with this.
https://sprend.com/download.htm?C=3cfe63813c7d444092c5b27c7aaa172d
If that isn,t working try updating your system to E lCapitan.
Danne my problem is that the mac i have is very old ( about 8 years ) and i cant update to el capitan...if this way won't work is there any way to do it on windows? i can't afford to not shoot dual iso in night enviroments. thanks
Did you try the link I sent?
Try also to install both exiftool and dcraw to your system.
And I also recommend MLVFS. Dual iso works fine there too.
Im going to try in a while....but exiftool and Dcraw u r telling me r the ones that are in the CR2HDR folder? What is MLVFS?
Inside MLP there is a content folder. RIght click MLP - choose Show Package Contents - enter into Contents folder. In there you replace exiftool and lib folder with the one in the link. Double click to install.
MLVFS is one of the better tools around evolving MLV handling. It can be a bit slow with handling dual iso files so if working a lot with dual iso MLP could be the faster tool for the job.
Just a suggestion: A Teamviewer session would save a lot of trial-and-error.
It would be greattttt ehehehe
Hehe, why not Walter. I check my teamviewer settings. There was a problem last time I tried. I,ll pm you LucaDeFranco.