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Title: EF 1.8 - minimum aperture F2.0 & shutter value
Post by: NOOK360 on July 24, 2012, 01:40:34 PM
Hi,

On my EF 1.8, the minimum aperture I can set through ML is F2.0. Also, what would be a recommended shutter value for shooting 1080p/24?
I remember I set this to 1/48, 180 degrees as recommended in many tutorials in ML 2.2.

Thanks for any advice!
Title: Re: EF 1.8 - minimum aperture F2.0 & shutter value
Post by: a1ex on July 24, 2012, 01:44:13 PM
It's a small bug - Canon rounds and confirms the aperture values in a very strange way. You can set the aperture with Canon method - ML controls are only intended for exposure override mode, where you can get finer steps.

The shutter advice remains valid.
Title: Re: EF 1.8 - minimum aperture F2.0 & shutter value
Post by: NOOK360 on July 24, 2012, 01:51:05 PM
Thanks!

"The shutter advice remains valid." Do you mean that's still the recommended setting? If so, I cannot set the shutter to 1/48, 180 degrees in ML 2.3 ...

Edit: 1/46.9, 183 degrees and 1/42.2, 203 degrees are the closest i can set.
Title: Re: EF 1.8 - minimum aperture F2.0 & shutter value
Post by: a1ex on July 24, 2012, 02:02:15 PM
I don't see any problem with this - see the user guide.
Title: Re: EF 1.8 - minimum aperture F2.0 & shutter value
Post by: Leigho on July 25, 2012, 01:30:12 AM
Shutter speed is entirely to taste. 1/60 is often used for 30fps to look 'filmic', same as 1/48 for 24fps. Higher shutter speeds give a more digital look, like reality TV is shot with shutter speed 1/120 for 30fps or 1/96 for 24fps (I think. I live in PAL land where we shoot exclusively 24 or 25 fps).

Because I shoot at 25fps I think 1/50 is 'film speed', 1/100 or 1/120 is 'TV' and any faster is unnecessary. Slower shutter speeds in video are for effect only. They look weird.
Title: Re: EF 1.8 - minimum aperture F2.0 & shutter value
Post by: SuperHans28 on July 25, 2012, 11:58:19 PM
Yeah, I couldn't select 1/48 for the 24fps but only 1/46.9. Anyway to select 1/48 in the latest version?
Title: Re: EF 1.8 - minimum aperture F2.0 & shutter value
Post by: Leigho on August 02, 2012, 03:39:02 AM
Unfortunately it doesn't seem like ML's shutterspeed options are affected by frame rate at all. You are stuck to 1/48, 1/63, 1/88 and 1/96 which are the more accurate readings from Canon's 50, 60, 80 and 100. It is a good thing that DSLR footage doesn't really meet TV specs because for TV 'close enough' isn't close at all.

Is there a way of getting more accurate shutter speed control with ML, or are we bound to canon's shutter speeds?
Title: Re: EF 1.8 - minimum aperture F2.0 & shutter value
Post by: Leigho on August 02, 2012, 03:42:23 AM
I just realised that you were wanting to select 1/48 and i told you that 1/48 is one of the options. Maybe you don't have it if you're on NTSC, but my camera only has 24p and 25p so my available shutter speeds are as already stated.