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Title: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: JADURCA on February 19, 2015, 03:13:30 PM
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: JADURCA on February 21, 2015, 05:05:31 PM
Camara: Canon EOS 600D (T3i)
Resolution: 2048x872 (6 seconds at this resolution)
Frame Rate: 12 fps
Aspect Ratio 2.35:1
Sigma 17-50 mm f/2.8 lens

Magic Lantern version: Nightly.2015Jan29.600D102
Used Twixtor, to recreate the other 12 frames.
Processed with Sony Vegas Pro 13 using h.264 and down-scaled to 1080p @ 24 fps.
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: kamranjon on February 22, 2015, 06:10:06 PM
Oh man using twixtor for this is genius, looks great too!
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: dubzeebass on February 22, 2015, 11:49:16 PM
How do you use twixtor in this way? Can you post a screenshot of your settings?
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: JADURCA on February 23, 2015, 05:23:40 AM
Thanks kamranjon!

Here dubzeebass!

(http://i59.tinypic.com/o5syf9.png)
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 23, 2015, 06:19:46 AM
Interesting way of using Twixtor via your Settings...

Although I'm not a big fan of Twixtor but sometimes it can be handy for some scenes.

Thanks for sharing @JADURCA!
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: JADURCA on February 24, 2015, 12:21:00 AM
Thanks DeafEyeJedi!! I know you'd do the same for me!

I was reading a lot in this forum about recording RAW with Canon cameras. All about resolutions (1x - 3x mode) vs. recording time in seconds. It looks like the 7D is the winner taking into account price, resolution and the fast recording storage. What's your opinion?
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: Jotys on February 24, 2015, 03:17:07 AM
What was your shutter speed setting for this shoot on 12 fps
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: JADURCA on February 24, 2015, 03:57:13 AM
Here Jotys!!! I was no paying much attention to the shutter values. Some are 1/50, 1/100, 1/500 and even 1/50. I was focused on a balanced exposure using more the aperture.


(http://i57.tinypic.com/2e0odcg.png)
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: Jotys on February 24, 2015, 04:13:23 AM
OK I am I am trying this on 700D but it won't allowed me to set the resolution higher than 1728 x 972 16:9 or in any Aspect ratio FPS override  12 fps. Nightly2015Feb20. Getting message 2048 is not possible in current video mode (max 1728). Am I doing something wrong? 
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 24, 2015, 05:59:44 AM
@JADURCA:

I'm actually happy with all of my cameras...

Preferably 5D3 (obviously) along with the M being the worst (just can't use it on paid gig's but do use it for non-work related stuff to keep the shutter count down on others like kids sports games, etc) but I do enjoy the crop sensor of the 7D for certain situations and I also enjoy using FRSP more or so than the 5D3 for some reason.

I guess I can be a bit strange at times...
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: JADURCA on February 24, 2015, 06:01:38 PM
Jotys, you need to first press the magnifiaction button one time (5X) then resolution goes up in ML options and then record like that! We call it RAW Crop Mode!

Note: The framing is going to be different and recording is going to be on a factor of 3x, for instance, if you have your lens at 18 mm then is like having a 54 mm perspective. Hope This helps!
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: JADURCA on February 24, 2015, 06:05:30 PM
DeafEyeJedi, what FRSP stands for? I mainly speak spanish and don't know that acronym.
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: kamranjon on February 24, 2015, 07:34:35 PM
Hey Jadurca, I have a 7D. I think the 7D is more buggy than most other cameras because of its dual processor, I don't think it is as mature. I have had mine overheat and crash quite a bit, but it is definitely useable. The CF card cameras are the winners for sure.
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: Jotys on February 24, 2015, 09:49:32 PM
JADURCA thanks for explanation. New trick learned
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: JADURCA on February 24, 2015, 10:14:52 PM
kamranjon, So you think 7D is not a good camara after all? Are you recording RAW and audio at the same time?
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: kamranjon on February 24, 2015, 11:17:03 PM
I am, you can see an example here with audio and crop mode being used:

https://vimeo.com/120260188 (https://vimeo.com/120260188)


I think it's a great camera, but less stable than the other cf card cameras that are being supported at this time.
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 25, 2015, 12:27:31 AM
@JADURCA:

FRSP = Full Res Silent Photos
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: JADURCA on February 25, 2015, 05:57:49 AM
kamranjon, nice video!!! It gives the nostalgic fell that something is old, worn out and forgotten.
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: JADURCA on February 25, 2015, 05:59:48 AM
Thanks DeafEyeJedi!!! I didn't know the existence of FRSP mode, but now that I know I thing is an advantage to take pictures without making any sound at all. Cool!
Title: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 25, 2015, 06:36:09 AM
Not just sounds...

It saves the life of the body by NOT using the shutter.

Though IMO it comes with its own flaws but the pro's definitely outweigh the con's.

Especially for timelapse...

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Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: JADURCA on February 25, 2015, 06:45:07 AM
True!! Shutter count is the life of a camara.

Right know I'm reading about Dual ISO around the forum. Another new one for me!  :o

But it looks that it introduces aliasing problems and moire. Great dynamics but no good after all...
Title: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 25, 2015, 07:32:22 AM
And that's when the 2.5k crop-mode (5D3) comes in to make Dual-ISO Even better! (Less Moire and literally almost no aliasing)

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Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: JADURCA on February 26, 2015, 06:11:13 AM
Reads so good the 2.5k!! :o

How many seconds can be recorded at 2.5k crop-mode with a 5D3?

Does 7D have Dual-ISO too?
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: wyrlyn on February 26, 2015, 01:35:18 PM
JADURCA, what are your project settings in Vegas? (framerate, etc)
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: extremelypoorfilmaker on February 26, 2015, 07:18:30 PM
JADURCA mate, Thank you A LOT for this trick! I am gonna definitely use it at some point.. i think i will even get myself an 8mm lens to use in crop mode, thanks to your inventive! :)

This community never cease me to amaze me and makes me everyday happier to have joined in!!
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: JADURCA on February 28, 2015, 12:05:50 AM
@extremelypoorfilmaker

Is all about sharing experiences and new findings! It give purpose to this life!!  :)
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: JADURCA on February 28, 2015, 12:58:45 AM
@wyrlyn

First, when you import your 12 fps RAW image sequence you tell Vegas, that you got 24 fps in the settings and not 12. Why? Because when you add Twixtor plug in it recreates the other 12 frames and then you got 24. Then before rendering you must make your clip longer twice. For instance, if your clip originally takes 100 frames then when you stretch it you got 200 frames in the timeline. Why? Because thanks to Twixtor, you got twice the frames now! Finally render using an intermediate codec with a sub-sampling of 4:2:2. Done!
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: wyrlyn on February 28, 2015, 10:34:28 AM
thanks for the explanation JADURCA now I get it!
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: kamranjon on February 28, 2015, 08:40:43 PM
7D has dual-iso for still photos, but not for video yet
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: 0oyoungoneo0 on June 22, 2015, 05:30:11 AM
Hey @Jadurca and anyone,
   I'm a newbie. I was wondering what kind of card did you use (class 10? 20 mb/s?, etc.?)? How long can you record for? I did a lot of internet searching and read up so much answers. LOL. Thanks in advance. Have a good one.
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: JADURCA on October 05, 2015, 07:27:55 PM
@ 0oyoungoneo0 - I used a 10 Class SD card. The process is a headache and not proper for filming a project. I were just experimenting. I even sold my 600D and bought a 5DM3.
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 05, 2015, 07:44:32 PM
Take care. "Class 10" is a very outdated classification just telling the card should write large files with at least 10 MByte/s. 600D's limit is about 21 MByte/s.
Another specification doing no good is something like "80 MB/s". In most cases this is only valid for reading and nothing can be said about write performance.

Benchmark runs with tools like CrystalDiskMark, ATTO or ML's own may tell another story. And be sure the card you want to buy is the one tested. There may be harsh differences among cards with different sizes. Lexar's 800x CF-cards may serve as an example. 32 GB -> 45 MByte/s. 64 GB -> 77 MByte/s.

And always benchmark your cards after purchase. Faked cards are widely spread and may be in stock from companies considered to be trustworthy, too.
Title: Re: 2k RAW Music Video with 600D (T3i)
Post by: JADURCA on October 06, 2015, 04:10:41 PM
@ Walter Schulz - True! Companies always shows readings speeds (marketing reasons maybe?) on the card label, so costumers see a higher number. But in reality writing speeds are more important for us to know.