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Developing Magic Lantern => Camera-specific Development => Topic started by: nikfreak on January 15, 2015, 12:22:15 AM

Title: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 15, 2015, 12:22:15 AM
Update 02nd Oct 2017:
Please download latest builds from now on here:
https://builds.magiclantern.fm/ (https://builds.magiclantern.fm/)
Highly experimental builds are available here:
https://builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html

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Provide a test report about functionality (#post_testreporting)
Changelog (#post_changelog)
What's not working (#post_notworking)
Removing / Uninstall (#post_removing)
Credits (#post_credits)

Read this before installing:

Installation Instructions:

Removing Magic Lantern / Uninstalling
Source Code:
https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/branch/70D_merge_fw112

Gotta Questions?
Do a forum search first.... Let's try to keep on topic. Don't spam my inbox  :P

Bug Reporting (fill in OK / Not OK {e.g. screen flickering or camera crashed while taking a shoot or ........}:
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html
Don't report bugs on the official issue tracker. We can only do so after being rest assured we got a stable release and the necessary source code changes are merged in officially.
Keep in mind: We need to list bugs in a readable and provable way.


What's working:
What's not working:
Check also Changelog history below for all details and disabled features...
Changelog (noteworthy ones only):
26th Oct 16: Beta-4a
23rd Apr 16: Beta-3c
8th Mar 16: Beta-3b
22th Dec 15: Beta-3
26th Nov 15: Beta-2b
15th Nov 15: Beta-2
22th Aug 15: Beta-1
15th Aug 15: Alpha-7b "ICEMAN"
Build feels pretty solid to me. No requests for new features please. Only bug reports!
Download Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9Mu66yg5QzRfjdBaTM5OTBNSEFha3RiT0YyTlBxdHVxTUcwdUlEMHZXd1NfLXJaR01NeG8) (re-added as per request (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg153791#msg153791)) but keep in mind I only want the thread discussions to focus on the latest release
8th Aug 15: Alpha-7a2
6th Aug 15: Alpha-7a
13th Jul 15: Alpha6b
31st May 15: Alpha6
23rd Apr 15: Alpha5b
21st Apr 15: Alpha5
14th Mar 15: Alpha4b
10th Mar 15: Alpha4
11th Feb 15: Alpha3
28th Jan 15: Alpha2
19th Jan 15: Alpha1
15th Jan 15: Alpha0
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Audionut on January 15, 2015, 01:05:13 AM
Lets keep this thread on topic please.  Magic Lantern for the 70D.

Anything related to raw video should go in this section (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=49.0).
Raw Video Postprocessing (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=54.0).
Hardware and Accessories (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=40.0) for cards, card speeds, what card should I buy, what card is fastest, what card helps me lose weight, monitors for raw recording, dollys, you get the picture.

If it's not directly related to the 70D port, post it somewhere else.  nikfreak has done excellent work learning about ML and making the development progress to port ML to the 70D, he doesn't need to navigate through pages of offtopic banter to continue his efforts.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: gsanchez922 on January 15, 2015, 11:23:02 AM
Hi guy Just to see if I understand. If my cam is not compatible, I'll get a black screen or blank whatever... in this  case i have to use Eoscard utility and my cam will work again normally  or will be compatible  with Alpha ML?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: walter_schulz on January 15, 2015, 11:28:13 AM
Format the card using a cardreader and wait for things to become compatible.
Quote
If you couldn't install the firmware (black screen / forced to pull out battery to get cam working....) it means you got an unqualified cam (see Intro section above) and you have to wait. Don't panic your device will get supported asap (No ETA. It's done when it's done...). Don't blame me for not being able to install ML onto your 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 15, 2015, 01:37:33 PM
Updated the first post....
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: JonOfSparta on January 15, 2015, 02:04:14 PM
How can we "Try" it ?

Do you have a download link for the  (Alpha / Pre-Alpha) for the70D ?

Thank you
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 15, 2015, 02:20:16 PM
Either you are kidding me or you didn't read the first post.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: snakec on January 15, 2015, 02:24:25 PM
QuoteInstallation Instructions:

    Download Alpha0 release (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRNEVFX3JuXzN5LTA/view?usp=sharing)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Torios on January 15, 2015, 02:35:57 PM
I made everything in accuracy as you told. Occurred nothing. The camera simply rebooted and works in the usual mode. The inscription of "Enabled Bootdisk" didn't appear. What not so I do?
I need to wait for the new version of release?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: walter_schulz on January 15, 2015, 02:53:52 PM
Read installation instructions once again and redo installation.
If this doesn't solve the problem
QuoteIf you couldn't install the firmware because your camera doesn't show "Enabled bootdisk" it means you got an unqualified cam (see Intro section above) and you have to wait until your fimrware revision gets supported (No asking for ETA's). Stop here and don't follow the next steps. Don't spam the thread about your disappointment of not being able to install ML or asking when it will be possible. I am not interested in that, sorry. I am interested only in functionality tests / bug reports.
applies.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on January 15, 2015, 02:57:33 PM
Hi nikfreak,

Mega kudos goes out to you and the ML team!!

Quick question:
You mentioned on January 7th that "You won't be able to remove the bootflag again."
Is that still the case with the Alpha build?

Cheers!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 15, 2015, 03:03:35 PM
Johnny, the menu override in Canon menu while selecting the option to format card works. You can switch with "Q" button to format card and retain ML on camera which I tested and that's working. There's also the option to remove ML but I didn't test it. Should work but I cannot guarantuee that it works because I didn't try. I will test it myself later and give an answer on that. Till then I don't recommend you to use that option.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: JonOfSparta on January 15, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
The Notepad scared the crap out of me , I don't want to risk my camera but I do really need RAW for my 70D for my College work.
I hope you understand.

Anyway , when will this be "safe" to install to our camera or at-least works properly.

It says a lot of possible errors that it can damage the camera itself.

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DolanAJ on January 15, 2015, 03:56:43 PM
After several attempts I do not have a currently supported 70D but once support is added I will be testing! If you need any details from my camera to assist with building support let me know and will pull what I can.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: snakec on January 15, 2015, 04:02:15 PM
how to differentiate the two version 1.1.1
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: walter_schulz on January 15, 2015, 04:37:35 PM
One is working. Other one is not. Not yet.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 15, 2015, 04:38:59 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on January 15, 2015, 03:03:35 PM
Johnny, the menu override in Canon menu while selecting the option to format card works. You can switch with "Q" button to format card and retain ML on camera which I tested and that's working. There's also the option to remove ML but I didn't test it. Should work but I cannot guarantuee that it works because I didn't try. I will test it myself later and give an answer on that. Till then I don't recommend you to use that option.

Yes, removing ML this way does work.  It does leave an ML folder that only contains a config file but removes everything else, it no longer runs after doing this.

Quote from: snakec on January 15, 2015, 04:02:15 PM
how to differentiate the two version 1.1.1

The only way to know for sure is to try the installation.  If you can enabled bootdisk, you have the new revision.  If not, the old one.  For those who have the old FW, I wonder if it's possible for one of us with the newer version to rip our FW and share it?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Canon-Ball on January 15, 2015, 04:44:45 PM
QuoteYes, removing ML this way does work. It does leave an ML folder that only contains a config file but removes everything else, it no longer runs after doing this.

The left over ML folder, where is its location? Camera file system or SD-Card?

To be more precise: Will anybody be able to see that ML had been installed?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: JonOfSparta on January 15, 2015, 04:44:52 PM
I encountered

o Early stop (10)

Those recoreded videos cannot be found and ate more than 1gb of my Memory, when I installed magic lantern it  was more than 7gb of my 8gb SD Card

After those bugged recorded raw videos , I tried to find it on the Card via PC , the SD card is empty and cannot find those file that consumed about 1gb of my space
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 15, 2015, 04:57:29 PM
DV I sent a tech. request to Canon with concern that there was a 70D firmware release made about a year ago.
I wanted to know what bugs were fixed, and how I could download it.  I also pointed out that
having two firmware versions of ver 1.1.1, is poor software configuration management SCM practice.

I suggest you do the same, as the more that complain - hopefully they will provide an update.
My fear is that they did this covertly because they changed/upgraded h/w and didn't want to notify 1st gen. owners.

Actually Canon is ISO 9001 certified. It is a major violation of that standard to have improper SCM practice.
If their ISO auditors find out, possibly they will be forced to remedy it (however that's a longer process).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 15, 2015, 07:14:43 PM
Quote from: Canon-Ball on January 15, 2015, 04:44:45 PM
The left over ML folder, where is its location? Camera file system or SD-Card?

To be more precise: Will anybody be able to see that ML had been installed?

It's on the card.  When you plug the card into a computer, you'll see 3 folders: DCIM, MISC, and ML.

Quote from: ShootMeAlready on January 15, 2015, 04:57:29 PM
DV I sent a tech. request to Canon with concern that there was a 70D firmware release made about a year ago.
I wanted to know what bugs were fixed, and how I could download it.  I also pointed out that
having two firmware versions of ver 1.1.1, is poor software configuration management SCM practice.

I suggest you do the same, as the more that complain - hopefully they will provide an update.
My fear is that they did this covertly because they changed/upgraded h/w and didn't want to notify 1st gen. owners.

Actually Canon is ISO 9001 certified. It is a major violation of that standard to have improper SCM practice.
If their ISO auditors find out, possibly they will be forced to remedy it (however that's a longer process).

Yeah that does sound pretty shady.  And not really legal.  If there was a HW change then the camera needs to have a different model number.  And I would guess it was indeed a HW change, otherwise why wouldn't they publicly release a 1.1.2 FW?  So I guess that kind of eliminates the idea of sharing the "new" 1.1.1 with everyone because if there's been a HW change that probably wont work so well.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Corto Maltese on January 15, 2015, 07:27:19 PM
Hi, new to the all ML stuff. Really want to try it out, seems amazing.really well done.

I have a silly question, if i install ML , latter on, will i be able to switch back to the old firmware of canon, or how does it work? It only displays ML when i put in the sd card with it?

Tks in advance, and keep up the good work
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 15, 2015, 07:30:02 PM
Corto, you may want to read Top of page -> User Guide -> FAQ.

@DigitalVeil + ShootMeAlready: Your suspicion only makes sense if Canon decided to never, never, never ever deliver a firmware update for 70D. Disagree?
EDIT: And if they found a way to prevent companies like Chipworks disassembling two cams down to semiconductor gate level.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 15, 2015, 07:34:06 PM
@DigitalVeil & ShootMeAlready -- agreed it does seem shady of Canon to pull a stint to us early 70D owners...

However, I'll definitely try installing the alpha sometime this afternoon after work. If I don't get the blank black screen then I'll be happy to report bugs.

If in fact it does show black screen -- then I'll just have to wait for the next release.

Special thanks to @Nikfreak & KUDOS to @A1ex and the rest of the ML crew!
Title: Takes a few minuets of a blank screen - Canon 70D
Post by: albertoxie on January 15, 2015, 07:53:51 PM
Guys, gold on getting this thing working, fair play to all involved. just to let you know it might be worth saying my camera went blank after firmware update....... first time it said there was a problem and the menu was a little screwed but a quick switch off fixes that up :) second time same thing blank screen but this time I waited & continued to read more of the forum & sure enough like MAGIC roughly about four - five minuets later BOOM!  up she came "boot disk enabled" & the smiley face. now to find eoscard for mac or install windows & get started card bootable.  anyone know off hand of an apple varient before I install windows? thanks and I hope this helps somebody.   ;D
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 15, 2015, 07:58:29 PM
Look for MacBoot.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: bigorna on January 15, 2015, 08:03:53 PM
Walter, I don't know, but is probably possible that Canon release a new fw that identifies the hw and updates based on that.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 15, 2015, 08:09:24 PM
You know Occam's razor?
I rest my case until Canon releases a firmware update for 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: bigorna on January 15, 2015, 08:20:55 PM
It's ok. We are talking about hypothesis anyway...
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Mr.Click on January 15, 2015, 08:22:56 PM
Hello, I´m new to the Forum, I tried the new Alpha today, it works well , thank you very much, well done  !

I didn´t try all Functions yet, one issue I noticed is that the Image Review Settings doesn´t work properly ( I loved the Quick Zoom on my Old 50D) I´m not sure, but it seems that Quick Zoom works while zooming out, but not while zooming in.


( please Excuse my English I do not speak it so often)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 15, 2015, 08:38:07 PM
Added to first post. Thanx for reporting @mr. Click  8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: k1w1 on January 15, 2015, 08:44:04 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on January 15, 2015, 07:58:29 PM
Look for MacBoot.
http://www.zenoshrdlu.com/macboot/macboot.html
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Canniballissimo on January 15, 2015, 09:03:02 PM
I bought my 70D in December 2013. When I install the ML does not happen anything. Offer to update the firmware, click OK, and then after a couple of seconds, I am on the same screen with the settings of photo-shooting
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: pa0los on January 15, 2015, 09:27:01 PM
Hi guys
First of all thank you to all the developers porting ML to 70d. Great work!
I tried installing the alpha and it didn't work the first time, because I didn't understand the instruction correctly. Just a few notes to nilfreak's manual:
1. After you put the SD card with extracted ML files to your camera, you must switch the camera to photo-shooting mode and press INFO button. The display should present information like shooting mode, SD card space left, date and time, etc.
2. Then press menu and go through the normal firmware update procedure. Camera should reset.
3. At this point I didn't see anything on the display, because camera booted into shooting mode. I had to press "play" button - my photo on SD card showed up and after few seconds I could see the "Enabled bootdisk" message.

Right now I familiarize myself with the ML, must read some manuals on how to use some of the functionalities.
I tried already RAW recording: with 1280x720 my Sandisk Extreme card rated for 45MB/s couldn't stand more than a minute of recording.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: bigorna on January 15, 2015, 09:28:20 PM
The same as Cannibalissimo occurred with my 70D (no message and come back to info screen after a couple of seconds). Bought in March 2014. Not able to help for now...
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 15, 2015, 09:36:10 PM
Nikfreak, don't forget Bitrate Control and Dual ISO in the 'what's not working' section  ;D

Quote from: pa0los on January 15, 2015, 09:27:01 PM

Right now I familiarize myself with the ML, must read some manuals on how to use some of the functionalities.
I tried already RAW recording: with 1280x720 my Sandisk Extreme card rated for 45MB/s couldn't stand more than a minute of recording.


I'm guessing your card peaks at 45MB/s but at times dips below the required 36MB/s for 720p raw.  Speed ratings on SD cards are very snaky, you really can't trust them.  I bought an SD card rated for 90MB/s writes just to be sure, and so far I've never had any interruptions at 720p.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: senones on January 15, 2015, 09:37:01 PM
hi...
after downloading alpha0, i updated my firmware with the instruction above and voila my 70d have blank black screenn. first i thought my 70d is not supported on. but then with BLANK i take a picture and voilaaa i have my screen SHOWS ENABLE BOOTDISK :)
i dont know if this step could solve this uncompatible issues. and good luck
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: bigorna on January 15, 2015, 09:40:21 PM
Following paolos instructions, I had a different result. Now it rebooted. But after play, I could see my picture but didn't get the "enabled bootdisk" message. Is it possible that the message didn't show up because it was already enabled at my previous attempts?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 15, 2015, 10:05:14 PM
Quote from: senones on January 15, 2015, 09:37:01 PM
hi...
after downloading alpha0, i updated my firmware with the instruction above and voila my 70d have blank black screenn. first i thought my 70d is not supported on. but then with BLANK i take a picture and voilaaa i have my screen SHOWS ENABLE BOOTDISK :)
i dont know if this step could solve this uncompatible issues. and good luck

It's stated in first post. You need to have a pictire shot with your 70d before starting the firmware upgrade

Quote from: pa0los on January 15, 2015, 09:27:01 PM!
I tried installing the alpha and it didn't work the first time, because I didn't understand the instruction correctly. Just a few notes to nilfreak's manual:
1. After you put the SD card with extracted ML files to your camera, you must switch the camera to photo-shooting mode and press INFO button. The display should present information like shooting mode, SD card space left, date and time, etc.

This is stated in first post, too

Quote from: pa0los on January 15, 2015, 09:27:01 PM
3. At this point I didn't see anything on the display, because camera booted into shooting mode. I had to press "play" button - my photo on SD card showed up and after few seconds I could see the "Enabled bootdisk" message.
Nice find although it should have done it automatically but others can try that, too.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Corto Maltese on January 15, 2015, 10:37:23 PM
well, sad face for me. nothing happend....
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: granan13 on January 15, 2015, 11:10:33 PM
All right so i installed ML on my 70D, thanks a lot for your work nikfreak, really, it's nice to see some people giving their time for the community.

Here's my return :

-Is it normal that The "Audio" and "Expo" do not appear in the menu ? Or maybe i missed something, it's my first use of ML.

- Focus Peaking : OK tried with different settings and it worked great.

- Intervalometer : NOT OK I tried to set it in photo mode, then when i go back to liveview, after 3sec, no picture is taken, and the different buttons do not respond, i need to turn the camera off/on.

- 3.0x bitrate : seems OK

- REC Key : OK

-HDR video : don't know how to activate it, asks for manual iso.

- Ghost picture : OK, the image flickers a little when you set the image you want to use, for 1sec and then it is ok.

- Strange thing : my 18-35 1,8 is detected as 61-138 on the left bottom of the screen. And even if i change the aperture value the only value on the screen is f/1.7


I'll do more tests this weekend, it's the only way i can help, I have no competences in coding.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 15, 2015, 11:13:20 PM
As for me with the 70D that I have with the OLD ICU FW -- no success as of yet even tried to manually switch to playback mode or even take a picture and switch to playback mode to get it working.

All good I'll be happy to wait for the updated alpha...Thanks again to everyone!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 15, 2015, 11:33:09 PM
Quote from: granan13 on January 15, 2015, 11:10:33 PM
-HDR video : don't know how to activate it, asks for manual iso.

Yeah I forgot about this one, happening with my build too.  Features that require manual ISO will claim that manual ISO is disabled even when it is set to manual.

Also, I reported that the flashing zebras were fixed but I was wrong.  They stop flashing when AF is disabled, enabling AF causes both zebras and spot meter to flash on and off.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: granan13 on January 15, 2015, 11:45:21 PM
Another strange thing :

shutter speed value shown by ML in video doesn't match with the value shown by the LCD screen on the top of camera :

ML shows 1/27 when camera says 1/30, then 1/32 for 1/40, 1/40 for 1/50, 1/50 for 1/60 etc... like if there was a gap of one stop between the two, is it normal ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on January 15, 2015, 11:54:11 PM
First off, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS NIKFREAK! I am a long time lurker, first time poster. I have been waiting so long for this release. Now that I've gotten that out of my system, time to state my case. First off, I too noticed that the audio tab was missing, would turning that off for RAW recording lower the necessary data rate? I am maxing at a continuous shooting of 756X1344 with a 60 mbps SD card (I know, it seems to really be maxing at around 40 mbps). Also, the frame rate is locked at 21.596 FPS, or am I reading that wrong? I'm new to magic lantern, but it seems to be the frame rate. Also, the ML menu exits out randomly, which is a bug to be expected. The list of specs, like the f stop and lens focus distance doesn't update effectively, the f-stop number never updates. Almost everything else works, though!
Overlays
-Zebras: OK
-Focus Peak: OK
-MagicZoom:NOT OK, doesn't work off of zoom button
-Cropmarks: OK
-Ghost Image: _OK_
-Spotmeter: _OK
-False Color: ____OK
-Histogram: ____OK
-Waveform: ____OK
-Vectorscope: ____OK, appears over magic zoom. I can just move magic zoom.
Movie
-BitRate: ____OK
-REC Key: ____OK
-Gradual Exposure: ____
-FPS Override: Not availbale with Alpha0 (would really like to see)
-HDR Video: ____
-Vignetting: ____OK
-Image Finetuning: ____OK
-Movie Tweaks: ____OK
Shoot
-Intervalometer: ____NOT OK. It sets off the write file light, but doesn't actually take any pictures during time interval. Have to restart camera to stop flashing light.
-Motion Detect: ____
-Shoot Preferences: ____
Included Modules
- Raw_rec: ____OK (Is there any way to disable audio for this? Or is it already not recording?)
- ettr: ____OK
- autoexpo: ____OK
- ....
Other issues:
Other than the super short recording time for RAW above 720, which probably isn't a ML issue, this is great! The main reasons I wanted it were for zebras and RAW, but I can live with compression and a denoiser.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on January 16, 2015, 01:10:03 AM
Another thing: the ram percentage constantly reads 0.0%
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 16, 2015, 03:20:39 AM
Quote from: granan13 on January 15, 2015, 11:45:21 PM
Another strange thing :

shutter speed value shown by ML in video doesn't match with the value shown by the LCD screen on the top of camera :

ML shows 1/27 when camera says 1/30, then 1/32 for 1/40, 1/40 for 1/50, 1/50 for 1/60 etc... like if there was a gap of one stop between the two, is it normal ?

Not normal, but it's a known bug
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: draco on January 16, 2015, 04:39:56 AM
Well shoot I can't load the firmware. It goes to the grey Canon "Firmware update program" screen with "Loading.." in the middle for 1 second then the screen turns black and quickly exits to the shooting info screen. I guess this means I have the older firmware. My 70D serial #06202xxx. I purchased the Camera Aug2014 from B&H.

I did Java and C programming 15 years ago so might try to learn more and help out. Maybe some of us can make a new thread and start work on the port for earlier firmware as Nitfreak and others are going to be busy enough.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: rotaryman on January 16, 2015, 04:58:04 AM
Thank you for the port. I seem to be one of the lucky ones who it works for. Easy instructions to follow, worked perfectly first shot.

I will go through the functions piece by piece, but by my first run through I did notice that the shutter speeds and ISO levels do not read correctly while in LiveView. Aperture during LiveView also does not update.

Just a few small things, once again great work - much appreciated!

More to come.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: TomJ on January 16, 2015, 06:07:58 AM
Loaded perfect, first try. So far, all's dandy. Never seem to have problems with ML though (whew...), the T3i and T4i pre-alpha just always worked like butter for me too. Perhaps my camera's see what I do to bricked cell phones when they react wrongly to bad code? Whatever. It keeps 'em in line...  :D

Will report back on tests.

Edit: Late model 70D (Nov 2013, second body), Kodak 1gb SD card (slow as dirt, found on floor of train in south India years ago). Prob meaningless since it loaded and worked like buttah for me.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: isi25 on January 16, 2015, 06:20:31 AM
Quote from: draco on January 16, 2015, 04:39:56 AM
Well shoot I can't load the firmware. It goes to the grey Canon "Firmware update program" screen with "Loading.." in the middle for 1 second then the screen turns black and quickly exits to the shooting info screen. I guess this means I have the older firmware. My 70D serial #062022010573. I purchased the Camera 8/12/2014 from B&H.

Guys, are you sure the two versions depends on dates or could it be something else? For example, a slightly different firmware version for (W)/(N) models or something like that ? I guess it's a newbie question but just in case xD
Just saying 'couse this guy bought his cam a month ago...

Also thnx nikfreak, a1ex and everyone involved on this. It's been a happy week finding out you guys are now developing the 70D version of ML. I've been waiting more than a year to read that! Lol.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: johnha on January 16, 2015, 07:04:49 AM
I've tried shooting at 3.0x bit rate and the resultant files are no larger than 1.0x bit rate. So I don't think the bit rate setting works currently. Could anyone else confirm?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Canon-Ball on January 16, 2015, 09:38:48 AM
Quote
QuoteQuote from: draco on Today at 04:39:56 AM
Well shoot I can't load the firmware. It goes to the grey Canon "Firmware update program" screen with "Loading.." in the middle for 1 second then the screen turns black and quickly exits to the shooting info screen. I guess this means I have the older firmware. My 70D serial #062022010573. I purchased the Camera 8/12/2014 from B&H.
Guys, are you sure the two versions depends on dates or could it be something else? For example, a slightly different firmware version for (W)/(N) models or something like that ? I guess it's a newbie question but just in case xD
Just saying 'couse this guy bought his cam a month ago...

Also thnx nikfreak, a1ex and everyone involved on this. It's been a happy week finding out you guys are now developing the 70D version of ML. I've been waiting more than a year to read that! Lol.

Might be an idea, but I'd guess his camera was just a kind of "slow seller". I bought mine also in December and my serial starts with 13302600xxxx. The outer packing states June 2014...
However, I didn't find the time to test ML Alpha for the 70D, but I'm quite happy that it is available. Tnx!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on January 16, 2015, 12:46:28 PM
@johnha, yeah, I noticed the same exact thing.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 16, 2015, 12:51:32 PM
Quote from: Guitarshredder1 on January 16, 2015, 12:46:28 PM
@johnha, yeah, I noticed the same exact thing.

I updated the first post. Keep up reporting all bugs you find....
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: pa0los on January 16, 2015, 01:20:58 PM
Today I crashed my camera while playing with RAW recording. The LCD displayed Err 70 when I tried to turn it on.
For a moment I thought that the camera is bricked, but then I formatted the SD card on PC, removed the battery for a minute and it seems to be working again (without ML for now).
I found some crash log files on the SD card. Here are some of them (i removed the build info since we only have this alpha ver):
ASSERT: !IS_ERROR( TryPostEvent( this->hTaskClass, this, EV_VD_INTERRUPT_EVF, NULL, 0 ) ) at ./Evf/EvfState.c:428, task ?
lv:1 mode:0 Free Memory  : 190K + 1855K
ASSERT: !IS_ERROR( TryPostEvent( this->hTaskClass, this, EV_VD_GMT, NULL, 0 ) ) at ./Gmt/GmtState.c:4845, task ?
lv:0 mode:0 Free Memory  : 191K + 1848K
ASSERT: !IS_ERROR( TryPostEvent( this->hTaskClass, this, EV_READOUTDONE_INTERRUPT_EVF, NULL, 0 ) ) at ./Evf/EvfState.c:374, task ?
lv:0 mode:0 Free Memory  : 191K + 1848K
ASSERT: !IS_ERROR( TryPostEvent( this->hTaskClass, this, EV_RESET_PSAVE_INTERRUPT_EVF, NULL, 0 ) ) at ./Evf/EvfState.c:401, task ?
lv:0 mode:0 Free Memory  : 191K + 1848K
ASSERT: !IS_ERROR( TryPostEvent( this->hTaskClass, this, EV_SETPARAM_INTERRUPT_EVF, NULL, 0 ) ) at ./Evf/EvfState.c:358, task ?
lv:0 mode:0

The last thing I remember doing is trying to activate the Magic Zoom. I had problems activating it with the zoom (+) button and tried some other options.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: fever003 on January 16, 2015, 01:41:35 PM
Hi,

I can confirm mine does not work after following the steps.

Possible reason is mine is the old 70D, bought in December 2013 with serial number of 048#########.

The camera says Firmware update program, loading... and immediately reboots with Sensor Cleaning and nothing happens. No activity on the red LED too.

Will wait for an update :)

Thanks alot nikfreak for your effort
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: snakec on January 16, 2015, 03:14:40 PM
 Overlays
-Zebras: OK
-Focus Peak: OK
-MagicZoom:NOT OK
-Cropmarks: OK
-Ghost Image:
-Spotmeter:
-False Color: ____OK
-Histogram: ____OK
-Waveform: ____OK
-Vectorscope:
Movie
-BitRate: ____OK
-REC Key: ____OK
-Gradual Exposure:
-FPS Override: Not availbale with Alpha0
-HDR Video:
-Vignetting: ____OK
-Image Finetuning: ____OK
-Movie Tweaks: ____OK
Shoot
-Intervalometer: ____NOT OK.
-Motion Detect: OK
-Shoot Preferences: ____
Included Modules
- Raw_rec: ____OK
- ettr: ____
- autoexpo: ____OK
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: snakec on January 16, 2015, 03:16:03 PM
RAW MAX 16/9 : 1280/720

Where is " Expo " and " Audio" ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: FotoGraphr on January 16, 2015, 04:05:33 PM
Fantastic!
Working here on a new serial number 144xxx

No Dual ISO (or I can't find it) and can also confirm intervalometer not working.

Just quickly installed it, so will do a i depth test Asap and post detailed results and findings.

Amazing work, very excited for the first bug fix release!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: pa0los on January 16, 2015, 04:23:57 PM
I'm working with Sigma 17-50 f/2.8. Some more feedback on what's not working correctly:
1. Focal length isn't correct (it shows 53 @17mm, 71 @50mm)
2. Aperture value isn't updated (stays @ 2.8)
3. Underexposure zebras sometimes stay on the edge of screen (even when there is a light area beneath)
4. Neither of the Magic Zoom focus confirm functions work (tested with Magic Zoom always on, because can't be activated by key)
Also I bought today Sandisk Extreme Pro 95MB/s card and still can't get a constant 720p RAW recording. It stops after ~50sec.
Tried running the card R/W speed benchmark and it gave me:
Write:42.3MB/s @ 16MB buffer
Read:43.7MB/s
Is there something I'm doing wrong?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 16, 2015, 04:37:32 PM
About recording time: Format card with ExFAT filesystem and try again. You have to make card bootable  again (EOScard/Macboot). Copy extracted nightly contents to card, startup cam and report results.
HTH.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: beloks on January 16, 2015, 04:47:52 PM
Purchased in December 2013, the version with Wi-Fi, serial number 04212100XXXX
ML does not get in the photo mode, video mode immediately falls in Err-80
sadness..
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 16, 2015, 05:10:20 PM
3: Check fileman with files > 4 GByte, please. Requires ExFAT, of course.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: pa0los on January 16, 2015, 05:32:01 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on January 16, 2015, 04:37:32 PM
Format card with ExFAT filesystem and try again.
Tried that, I don't think there's any difference. Still max I got is ~50sec (2GB raw file).
Maybe there's a specific "allocation unit size" setting I should use? I tried 1024kB
I experimented with the default settings and with the minimal settings (almost everything turned off on the overlay page).
Ofcourse i have the "allow dropped frames" option off.
Hopeless...
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 16, 2015, 05:49:28 PM
Take a test with RAW, too. MLV seems to have some overhead and it looks like we're dancing on the edge with 720p. Just took a short test with my 650D. MLV breaks between 1 and 2 minutes, RAW runs until free space is gone.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: pa0los on January 16, 2015, 05:52:24 PM
RAW is the only option we've got so far (and that's what I've tested).
nikfreak said that MLV is not working yet.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 16, 2015, 06:06:36 PM
The answer from Canon on 70D firmware versions.

1. No public firmware downloads available from Canon for the 70D.

2. Firmware differ by region, so yes there is multiple firmware release(s), not sure how many. 
"Different "base/factory" firmwares do not necessarily denote there is a bug fix or an enhancement, but rather can related to cameras sold in different countries"
They did not state unequivocally state that no bug fixes have gone in these versions, such weasel wording suggests yes some fixes went in or the person who replied has no certain knowledge.

3. There is another version of the 70D not sold in N.America that does not have wifi, it has a different firmware.

So the first question, should be what region did you buy from.  Perhaps the fir is crapping out based on regional differences.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ARsiega on January 16, 2015, 06:22:37 PM
Quote from: ShootMeAlready on January 16, 2015, 06:06:36 PM
snip
So the first question, should be what region did you buy from.  Perhaps the fir is crapping out based on regional differences.
Hmm, curios! That's what also came to mind when reading the post below.

Quote from: fever003 on January 16, 2015, 01:41:35 PM
Hi,
I can confirm mine does not work after following the steps.
Possible reason is mine is the old 70D, bought in December 2013 with serial number of 048#########.
The camera says Firmware update program, loading... and immediately reboots with Sensor Cleaning and nothing happens. No activity on the red LED too.
Will wait for an update :)
Thanks alot nikfreak for your effort
Mine exactly does that; also bought last Dec. 2013, also w/ firmware starting 048. We're almost the same, are you somewhere in Asia, Southeast perhaps?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: bigorna on January 16, 2015, 06:35:49 PM
Thinking about what SMAlready just wrote, I realized that WiFi have different regulations in different countries (number of channels, for example), and that can be a possible reason for different versions.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: pierre2fun on January 16, 2015, 07:00:38 PM
068xxxx does not work too
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 16, 2015, 07:05:59 PM
I better quote myself from first post:
QuoteI can't support two revisions at the same time but take a look at the source. Everything is well documented. Once this build got somewhat stable it's about days to support all revisions.

We got everything needed to support all 70D-Wifi models. So why worry about fw revisions? You only have to accept that I won't support all revisions in this early stage of porting. Once we are somewhat stable all 70D's will get ML. It's a matter of sitting some hours in a row in front off my computer to get it done. Really, take a look at the source, especiall the stubs and consts, then you will get it...
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on January 16, 2015, 07:30:30 PM
I took a look at some of the source, and noticed the problem @SML123 is showing with the raw file registration. That's just from borrowing the source code, all the aperture and ISO data is screwed up. I'm trying to learn and write/correct at the same time.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: janoschsimon on January 16, 2015, 07:33:15 PM
no love yet for my 70D :-) serial 033021.....

anyway keep up the great work guys :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on January 16, 2015, 07:37:22 PM

Quote from: draco on January 16, 2015, 04:39:56 AM
Well shoot I can't load the firmware. It goes to the grey Canon "Firmware update program" screen with "Loading.." in the middle for 1 second then the screen turns black and quickly exits to the shooting info screen. I guess this means I have the older firmware. My 70D serial #062022010573. I purchased the Camera 8/12/2014 from B&H.

I did Java and C programming 15 years ago so might try to learn more and help out. Maybe some of us can make a new thread and start work on the port for earlier firmware as Nitfreak and others are going to be busy enough.

Mine did the same thing, I tried it a second time, half pressed the shutter button, and it worked. Maybe try this?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: rotaryman on January 16, 2015, 07:59:44 PM
@ShootMeAlready: Interesting. My 70D was purchase in Canada in around September 2014. ML install worked perfectly by following instructions.

Those asking about RAW video: I haven't personally tried over 720p RAW but recorded 720p RAW for 2:30 with no breaking on a SanDisk Extreme 64GB 45 MB/s SD card.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: janoschsimon on January 16, 2015, 08:11:21 PM
Quote from: Guitarshredder1 on January 16, 2015, 07:37:22 PM
Mine did the same thing, I tried it a second time, half pressed the shutter button, and it worked. Maybe try this?

when did you press the shutter button? :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: gsanchez922 on January 16, 2015, 08:41:29 PM
Quick question. When you  shot in raw, Do you have audio? If the answer  is  yes Can I do 1 of 2 things
1- Disabled the audio because I gonna use the camara for music video  or I not gonna use the camara audio enough
2- for audio synchronization: Can I use a really low quality  audio because I  have a  external record  and pro mic for my production.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 16, 2015, 08:46:37 PM
yes you can. alpha0 doesn't record audio
beta / final will have options to disable it (mlv)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on January 16, 2015, 09:17:20 PM
@janoshsimon, I pressed it when the screen was black (out of frustration). The camera then went to show the picture I had loaded and then I got the welcome message!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: janoschsimon on January 16, 2015, 09:23:59 PM
@guitarshredder1 hm dont work for me MEH :D so waiting GRR :D
btw did anybody test hdmi out? :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D/HDR
Post by: haasje57 on January 16, 2015, 09:26:50 PM
Will that again show up on the 70D like I was used to have on the 550d?
Sorry if that was already asked and thanks a lot for this firmware.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Berrob on January 17, 2015, 12:11:55 AM
I have also had no luck. Bought in Germany October 2014 - Serial #053022****

One strange thing I have noted is that if I try sometimes to press the shutter button just after the firmware loaded page disappears but before the sensor clean screen I can get the camera to lock up and produce an error 80. This seems to stick around until I remove the ML directory.
This is not bricking the camera - Seems to be reversable

Not sure if this is helpful or not.

Once again, thank you Nikfreak for making any of this possible! I would love to help out where ever I can!
Cheers,
Rob
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 17, 2015, 12:28:45 AM
To anyone who is running this build on their 70D:

What does your camera temperature (on the ML overlay) get up to?  My 70D gets up to about 80C after ~10 minutes of usage (in either LiveView or Movie mode) every single time I use it.  Even when not recording.  I'm wondering if ML is causing my cam to get so warm (doubt it) or if it just always gets that warm, and whether that's common for 70Ds or just a problem with mine.  I'm betting it would overheat during an outdoor shoot in the summer...
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 17, 2015, 12:40:50 AM
I got mine in US feb 2014, #0521...  so its looking more and more like lower serial numbers (less than 0620...?) than any region.  As I noted some other US folks have ML running.

Also mine says made in Japan, which I suspect is were they are all made.  So the only region difference I know of is PAL 25/50 fps vs N.A. 30/60 fps option.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Glassed on January 17, 2015, 12:56:13 AM
Hello to all the ML community !

this is my first post, so first and foremost  massive congratulations (and thanks!) to the team that makes this possible.

My first attempt to install the alpha0 release in my 70D was not succesful, unless I am doing something wrong.

I did the following:

1) format card in camera, take a picture, turn off camera, load the SD in card reader, and paste the files from the alpha0 release in sd card root directory.
2) Turn on camera, press info until info screen is shown, then go to menu and select firmware update.
3) The camera starts firmware update, but the screen goes black after a second ( does not look like it actually does something like updating a firmware, its just too fast)
4) the 70d does NOT go automatically to playback mode, yet it operates normally like if I didnt update or touch the firmware. pressed playback, took pictures, but does NOT show " bootdisk enable ", even waiting for a few minutes with screen on playback mode.

note: no lens was attached during the process, and the camera was set to M mode.

Do I have the wrong revision of the 1.1.1 firmware ?

If thats not the case and I am doing something wrong, please let me know, I will help in the testing in any way I can, because this is awesome.  :D

EDIT: Serial Nº : 052022000011 , 70D (N) Model , Purchased Feb 2014.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: fever003 on January 17, 2015, 02:16:52 AM
ARSiege

Yes i am from southeast asia  :P

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on January 17, 2015, 02:26:19 AM

Quote from: DigitalVeil on January 17, 2015, 12:28:45 AM
To anyone who is running this build on their 70D:

What does your camera temperature (on the ML overlay) get up to?  My 70D gets up to about 80C after ~10 minutes of usage (in either LiveView or Movie mode) every single time I use it.  Even when not recording.  I'm wondering if ML is causing my cam to get so warm (doubt it) or if it just always gets that warm, and whether that's common for 70Ds or just a problem with mine.  I'm betting it would overheat during an outdoor shoot in the summer...

I'm getting the same temp, but it doesn't feel any warmer than usual, especially around the SD card slot, which usually gets hot. It stays warm (cooler than usual) even when recording 1600p 2.35:1 Raw for 3 minutes.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: gsanchez922 on January 17, 2015, 02:29:17 AM
Hello Everyone I install the Alpha and my serial is 082024xxxxx I bought in Jun of 2014 and I bought in B&H so Serial and date not care now the problem maybe is te region, I'm from USA maybe some people has the japan version
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: fever003 on January 17, 2015, 02:33:23 AM
Quote from: gsanchez922 on January 17, 2015, 02:29:17 AM
Hello Everyone I install the Alpha and my serial is 082024xxxxx I bought in Jun of 2014 and I bought in B&H so Serial and date not care now the problem maybe is te region, I'm from USA maybe some people has the japan version

Yes mine says made in Japan
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 17, 2015, 02:45:38 AM
Quote from: Guitarshredder1 on January 17, 2015, 02:26:19 AM
I'm getting the same temp, but it doesn't feel any warmer than usual, especially around the SD card slot, which usually gets hot. It stays warm (cooler than usual) even when recording 1600p 2.35:1 Raw for 3 minutes.

Hmm... well at least I'm not the only one.  The camera would get quite warm in my hands even before ML and I suppose it's not any warmer than it already was.  I guess these things just run hot?

Quote from: Glassed on January 17, 2015, 12:56:13 AM
4) the 70d does NOT go automatically to playback mode, yet it operates normally like if I didnt update or touch the firmware. pressed playback, took pictures, but does NOT show " bootdisk enable ", even waiting for a few minutes with screen on playback mode.

Did you have a picture on the card before running the firmware update?  That might be the problem.  When I do the installation it doesn't automatically take me to playback either, I had to press the play button manually and wait a couple seconds.

Also - sorry this is a little OT - I noticed in Canon's menu that my lens has its own firmware, and there's an option to update the lens FW.  It's the new 24mm f/2.8 STM pancake.  I had no idea a lens could even have firmware!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: rotaryman on January 17, 2015, 03:06:44 AM
Quote from: Glassednote: no lens was attached during the process, and the camera was set to M mode.

Might want to read over the instructions again. Need to have a picture before the firmware update and you can't take a picture with no lens  :P

@DigitalVeil: The temperature on my camera also increases throughout the time it's on, but I can't say it's warm to the touch as yet. I haven't really used it for more than 10-15 minutes but those are my findings.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on January 17, 2015, 04:16:31 AM
Quote from: DigitalVeil on January 15, 2015, 05:38:59 PM
Yes, removing ML this way does work.  It does leave an ML folder that only contains a config file but removes everything else, it no longer runs after doing this.

Quote from: nikfreak on January 15, 2015, 04:03:35 PM
Johnny, the menu override in Canon menu while selecting the option to format card works. You can switch with "Q" button to format card and retain ML on camera which I tested and that's working. There's also the option to remove ML but I didn't test it. Should work but I cannot guarantuee that it works because I didn't try. I will test it myself later and give an answer on that. Till then I don't recommend you to use that option.

Quote from: JohnnyG_71 on January 15, 2015, 03:57:33 PM
Hi nikfreak,

Mega kudos goes out to you and the ML team!!

Quick question:
You mentioned on January 7th that "You won't be able to remove the bootflag again."
Is that still the case with the Alpha build?

Cheers!

Hi guys, thanks for the quick reply!  I was referring to removing the BootFlag on the camera, not the ML files from the SD card.
Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: vfero on January 17, 2015, 04:57:14 AM
Hello,

Thanks a lot for your great work!
Before trying this new ML, i'd like to be sure there's still an Advanced Bracket ( as i only make HDR photos )


Regards,
Vince
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 17, 2015, 06:26:58 AM
      Digi'Veil

   Are you sure about that 80ºC ~ That would be 176ºF & you would not be able to hold it If So ~ I have Run My70D in Mov'Mode for up to @Least 8Hrs stopping only a few seconds @ the 30MinMarks & whenever it needs a Batt' or Card Change & it does get VerySlightlyWarm in the Batt' & Card Area with the Card getting the Warmest ~ But Even the Cards never get anything more than just Warm ~

                                                                                                                                                             ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 17, 2015, 06:37:52 AM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on January 17, 2015, 06:26:58 AM
      Digi'Veil

   Are you sure about that 80ºC ~ That would be 176ºF & you would not be able to hold it If So ~ I have Run My70D in Mov'Mode for up to @Least 8Hrs stopping only a few seconds @ the 30MinMarks & whenever it needs a Batt' or Card Change & it does get VerySlightlyWarm in the Batt' & Card Area with the Card getting the Warmest ~ But Even the Cards never get anything more than just Warm ~

                                                                                                                                                             ORR ~ DeanB

It's just the temperature ML is reporting, which could be wrong for all we know. And it's the internal temperature of the camera, the exterior shell will always be cooler. I think I did read in the 70D manual that Canon actual recommends not holding the camera in your hands while shooting video as it can get hot. Idk, I guess that's just the way it is.

Quote from: vfero on January 17, 2015, 04:57:14 AM
Hello,

Thanks a lot for your great work!
Before trying this new ML, i'd like to be sure there's still an Advanced Bracket ( as i only make HDR photos )


Regards,
Vince
Unfortunately Dual ISO is completely non-functional at this point.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: vfero on January 17, 2015, 06:49:08 AM
DigitalVeil

I'm just talking about the ability to make from 3 to 11 brackets  :D
Title: Canon 70D
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 17, 2015, 09:17:11 AM
Just tried it for the 3rd time to no avail.

So I am in fact one of the unlucky ones w the old ICU atm.

Purchased: Dec 2013 (USA)
Serial#: 0520 (in case you guys were wondering)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: fever003 on January 17, 2015, 09:26:23 AM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on January 17, 2015, 09:17:11 AM
Just tried it for the 3rd time to no avail.

So I am in fact one of the unlucky ones w the old ICU atm.

Purchased: Dec 2013
Serial#: 05202100#### (in case you guys were wondering)

Yeah same here. Purchased in December 2013, serial number 048######. Made in Japan.

Not complaining that it doesn't work, just mentioning here in case someone wants to know if theirs are not working for the same reason
Title: Canon 70D
Post by: erno on January 17, 2015, 01:12:11 PM
No luck yet.
Does not load: Serial 04302xxx..
Purchased:Finland, december 2013.


Thanks Nikfreak, Alex, Nanomad and all the supporters. Nikfreak, lmk if you visit Helsinki someday. Ill buy you a pint (or pints) of Finnish Karhu-Beer. Sauna is also available [emoji1][emoji779]️
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Dns on January 17, 2015, 02:22:51 PM
Just want to salute Alex,Nikfreak,Nomaed and other who contributed for this great achivement. I loaded the dottune module just for the test and It stopped during the tuning operation and gives the user canceled the operation error.i knew it's not gonna work but why not give a chance when my cam is ML powered? [emoji1] 
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on January 17, 2015, 03:55:51 PM
Confirmed this morning that the FPS (set to 24 on the canon menu) is locked at 21.576 and deviates +/- .002 FPS during recording. I'm sure there is an issue with the algorithm that regulates frame rate, @Nikfreak, I looked through Raw_Rec.c and couldn't find the part that actually controls frame rate/how data is recorded to the SD card. Is it in another place?

EDIT: I found fps.c, am looking through it now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Elanus on January 17, 2015, 04:03:26 PM
Not working on my 70D, bought on Feb 2014 in Colombia probably imported from US, s/n 03202xxxxxxx.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dmilligan on January 17, 2015, 04:04:36 PM
Quote from: SML123 on January 17, 2015, 11:25:57 AM
I'd like to help but don't know where to start, i'm an admin not a dev
If you look, you will find a plethora of information on this forum.
Getting Started With Development (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=991.0)
Getting a development machine up and running and developing. (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9517.0)
Mercurial Tips (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9524.0)
Using TortoiseHG (GUI) - Working with branches - Creating Pull Request (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10774.0)
Tutorial: finding stubs (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12177.0)
Firmware Dumping and Loading into IDA (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6785.0)

I don't want to get too OT, so feel free to open a new thread about any specific issues you're having. I'll also be glad to tell you my workflow, but it's too OT for this thread.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: timovd on January 17, 2015, 04:27:11 PM
Any news about audio meters and headphone monitoring? These ML-features are the main thing for me to install ML.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 17, 2015, 05:06:45 PM
Good news. Full Resolution Silent Pictures are almost done. Shot some test DNG's and it looks great.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 17, 2015, 05:31:30 PM
@nikfreak -- Great news regarding FRSP for the 70D!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dmilligan on January 17, 2015, 05:46:20 PM
you need to reset custom functions too
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Makadamia on January 17, 2015, 05:54:15 PM
Not able to install it, Dez.  2013, Ser# 043021xxx, bought in Germany.

But: Thanks nikfreak - you made my day, so I'm a happy camper and wait for following releases.

Happy to test later.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: pierre2fun on January 17, 2015, 06:02:09 PM
Nikfreak thanks for those good news !!!!

SML 123: This is an alpha so we all know the risks (see Nikfreak, and ML warnings). Why using reference 60D ???
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 17, 2015, 06:05:36 PM
Quote from: pierre2fun on January 17, 2015, 06:02:09 PMSML 123: Why using reference 60D ???

Because 60D works like 70D here: No user accessible clock battery. And therefore all techniques involving removal of said battery won't do.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Mr.Click on January 17, 2015, 06:09:16 PM
Hm, i don´t have this problems on my 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: oli650d on January 17, 2015, 06:23:37 PM
Fontional well for me buying 178056xxxxxx France 2015  :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 17, 2015, 06:46:43 PM
Just to avoid everyone from posting a serial number, here's the trend:
Does not load 0620 ... and lower   (only post if does not load and 1st four digits are higher)
Does load  1000... and higher     (only post if does load and 1st four digits are lower)

So far its the 1st digit is the divider ... interesting candidate (perhaps some binary number will be the make/break point).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 17, 2015, 07:13:23 PM
Quote from: SML123 on January 17, 2015, 11:25:57 AM
(and not the crew who can't follow instructions and are surprised that canon stuff is made in japan! with firmwares!....but anyway, if you don't want to take a picture when you need to reset the metering, mount the card and write/flush the buffers ie straight after the firmware-sensor clean...don't...same as if you want to burn out your camera early keep running full res raw on alpha code, that'll work)

Look, you really need to watch yourself with the talking down to others.  Almost every post you've made so far has had some sort of condescending tone to it.  It's not at all constructive or useful, and to be frank, you're a forum newcomer with a total of 5 posts.  You haven't exactly earned the right to speak to others that way here, if there was such a thing.  Good for you that you are an admin elsewhere, but you aren't one here.

Your method of installing this build worked for you personally, but that's actually not what nikfreak's original instructions specified.  They simply said to have at least 1 picture on the card before running the FW update, there's nothing about snapping 1 picture right after the FW update (look again if you don't believe me).  Glad to hear that worked for you, but as you can see in this thread, not all 70Ds are the same.

Quote from: Guitarshredder1 on January 17, 2015, 03:55:51 PM
Confirmed this morning that the FPS (set to 24 on the canon menu) is locked at 21.576 and deviates +/- .002 FPS during recording. I'm sure there is an issue with the algorithm that regulates frame rate, @Nikfreak, I looked through Raw_Rec.c and couldn't find the part that actually controls frame rate/how data is recorded to the SD card. Is it in another place?

EDIT: I found fps.c, am looking through it now.

Yeah you wont find anything that controls fps in raw_rec.c.  I've given a1ex the FPS timer values and he's already working on a fix.  However, your camera is probably still recording at the FPS value set in the Canon menu despite what ML says.  Are you getting the 21.576 from the ML overlay or from the actual file information?  When I go to 1080p24 mode, ML EVF says 21.576 but my raw footage still comes out to 23.984fps.  Haven't tested any h264 though.  I am running a slightly earlier build that includes FPS control but I leave it off when not looking for timer values, so it shouldn't be any different from Alpha0.

EDIT: Maybe not?  Just tested raw 60fps and got the 53.976 specified in the ML EVF.  So maybe FPS is screwy even when FPS Override is disabled.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: CommanderHT on January 17, 2015, 07:16:02 PM
To ShootMeAlready:
My 70D has serial no. 06302200XXX and does not load (bought Jan 2014 in Germany).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 17, 2015, 07:37:28 PM
   Yet another NoGo/JustForInfo post ~ Bought in USA LateDec2013  S#  05202******* ~

I even tried it with AllCam'Functions Reset to Fac'Defaults InTheHopesThat that might somehow help but NoGo ~

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Wiggierip on January 17, 2015, 07:39:30 PM
Quote from: ShootMeAlready on January 17, 2015, 06:46:43 PM
Just to avoid everyone from posting a serial number, here's the trend:
Does not load 0620 ... and lower   (only post if does not load and 1st four digits are higher)
Does load  1000... and higher     (only post if does load and 1st four digits are lower)
(...)

Pierre (http://"http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg137960#msg137960") has a higher non working serial:

Quote from: pierre2fun
068xxxx does not work too

Gsanchez (http://"http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg137999#msg137999") has a lower working serial:

Quote from: gsanchez922
Hello Everyone I install the Alpha and my serial is 082024xxxxx I bought in Jun of 2014 and I bought in B&H so Serial and date not care now the problem maybe is te region, I'm from USA maybe some people has the japan version
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 17, 2015, 07:46:25 PM
@digitalveil: regarding FPS -> Alpha0 differs from the pre-alpha builds... In Alpha0 70D is completely excluded from source code. We will get it right thanks to your help with listing the needed values  :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 17, 2015, 07:48:48 PM
Tested raw in 720p60 mode and did indeed get a video height of 434p, which means squashed raw will need to be stretched by ~1.66x.  I was kind of hoping it would be 1.4x like my 700D, but on the bright side 1.66x does allow us to shoot 1856px wide in up to a 2.20:1 aspect at 24fps continuously.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: sichel94 on January 17, 2015, 09:25:51 PM
Ser. No. 0830
Installation worked fine.

1. Overlays
    -Zebras: OK
    -Focus Peak: OK
    -MagicZoom: mostly OK
    -Cropmarks: OK
    -Ghost Image: mostly OK
    -Spotmeter: OK
    -False Color: OK
    -Histogram: OK
    -Waveform: OK
    -Vectorscope: OK

2. Movie
    -BitRate: NOT OK
    -REC Key: OK
    -HDR Video: NOT OK
    -Vignetting: OK
    -Image Finetuning: OK
    -Movie Tweaks: OK

3. Shoot
    -Intervalometer: NOT OK
    -Motion Detect: NOT OK
    -Shoot Preferences: NOT OK

4. Included Modules
    - Raw_rec: OK

5. Other issues:
    got thrown out of ML-menu time after time.
    RAW rec not very respnsive but working OK overall


Very satisfied with the mod. Thanks to all developers involved in this!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Vu on January 17, 2015, 09:53:14 PM
Mine is with serial 098024xxx.... Bought it in Vietnam 2014 and it works
I have never used ML before but have seen/read about this wonderful "plugin" and this is extremely good work. Thanks alot!

Have a nice day every1 :)

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 17, 2015, 11:11:40 PM
Here's my best guess, on the serial number.  Its using unsigned binary & its 40 bits (to support serial of 9999-9999-9999).
The problem occurs when any serial number 68719476735 or less. 
Possibly not allocated enough memory to read it and it crashes when it reads junk bits.  It looks like the MSB must be 0001xxxx to load currently. 
Probably the serial number is being read into either too short a word or signed int type, whichever
when the leading 4 bits should be zero for serial number 68719476735 or less by some word/type/sign error they are not and its crashing the loader (i.e find invalid serial number).
That's my best guess, so it looks to me like Nik has to play with size of word (40 bits unsigned looks to be what's needed).

So lets see if anyone with a serial number higher than 6871947635 is crashing the loader.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: draco on January 17, 2015, 11:27:26 PM
Quote from: Berrob on January 17, 2015, 12:11:55 AM
I have also had no luck. Bought in Germany October 2014 - Serial #053022****

One strange thing I have noted is that if I try sometimes to press the shutter button just after the firmware loaded page disappears but before the sensor clean screen I can get the camera to lock up and produce an error 80. This seems to stick around until I remove the ML directory.
This is not bricking the camera - Seems to be reversable

Not sure if this is helpful or not.

Once again, thank you Nikfreak for making any of this possible! I would love to help out where ever I can!
Cheers,
Rob
I just got the same err80 and froze. Scared the crap out of me for a second but pulling battery fixed it. As I said earlier in post #47 I bought Aug2014 from B&H in US 0620xxx model 70D(W)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: onepx on January 18, 2015, 11:38:28 AM
Good days! Before everything translator excuses for the translation since I it am translating from Spanish to English with google. Yesterday install the ML and I install myself correctly I have been looking at the menus and good. But I have seen a thing that me worries and is the warming. I begin with 23C and it has come to me to 69C in less than 5 minutes and puts in red. Is this normal? Thank you for answering. Regards from Spain.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: JonOfSparta on January 18, 2015, 01:09:17 PM
New to Magic Lantern

I cant record with my 70D 
it says Error early stopped (10)
I played with the settings and it turned to error (11)
and now is  Error (14) where my screen turns all black and have to pull out the battery.


Is my SD card too slow ? or It's the camera itself
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 18, 2015, 01:15:28 PM
You're giving no info about your settings and your card. Therefore the answer is:
Maybe.

Delete contents of ML\Settings and retry.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: oli650d on January 18, 2015, 02:24:47 PM


Peut on désactiver ML
Pourquoi quant on insère un carte sd sans ML l'écran et noir ?
Bravo pour votre travail
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 18, 2015, 02:31:54 PM
Google translate messed this one up.
Please use native language, too.

===
Write French. please.

Écrire en français, s'il vous plaît.
===

EDIT: Think I got it ...
- Format card using a cardreader
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: kekorr on January 18, 2015, 02:59:15 PM
I tried putting but nothing, I have the version 1.1.1 and follow the steps when I update firmware does nothing, it does not come out of enablebootdisk.  048010000***
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Zippo on January 18, 2015, 03:49:21 PM
Thanks ML team.
On my one 70D  almost everything working.On the second, which was buyed earlier ML does not work.
I am very happy with the new capabilities. RAW video is excellent, very sharply, and opportunities in post processing are what I've been waiting :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: GARoss on January 18, 2015, 07:30:44 PM
I was an early adapter & purchased my 70D in 09/2013. I tried install but nothing, I have the version 1.1.1 and follow the steps when I update firmware does nothing. I was hoping to see *enablebootdisk* but no luck.  Serial # 02202*******. Glad to hear some are working & maybe all will be soon! Hats off to Alex, Nikfreak, Nomaed!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: chrbhm on January 19, 2015, 08:44:00 AM
Installation fine with s/n #093024007031
As I am a newbie to ML some limited results:

Overlays
-Zebras: ____ OK
-Focus Peak: ____ OK
-MagicZoom: ____
-Cropmarks: ____
-Ghost Image: ____
-Spotmeter: ____
-False Color: ____
-Histogram: ____
-Waveform: ____
-Vectorscope: ____
Movie
-BitRate: ____
-REC Key: ____
-Gradual Exposure: ____
-FPS Override: Not availbale with Alpha0
-HDR Video: ____
-Vignetting: ____
-Image Finetuning: ____
-Movie Tweaks: ____
Shoot
-Intervalometer: ____ not OK
-Motion Detect: ____ seemed to be OK
-Shoot Preferences: ____
Included Modules
- Raw_rec: ____
- ettr: ____
- autoexpo: ____
- ....
Other issues:
After some seconds of being inactive (=staring at the screen) ML Menu closes/kicks me out
_______________________________________
_______________________________________
_______________________________________


Looking forward to the next build and hoping for the Focus menu soon.
Regards
Christian
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: true on January 19, 2015, 10:26:53 AM
No luck yet.  :'(
Does not load: Serial 023021002889
Purchased:Germany, September 2013.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: timovd on January 19, 2015, 10:55:57 AM
Bought mine in December 2014 and successfully installed ML alpha0, but nothings seems to work.
I tried Zebras and Cropmarks, but it's not showed on the screen while recording or during live view. Am I doing something wrong? I tried two different Sandisk SD-cards >class 10.

Edit: both are exFAT formatted btw.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: alexd on January 19, 2015, 03:23:49 PM
70d bought in April 2014
SN: 083024...

Overlays
-Zebras: OK
-Focus Peak: OK
-MagicZoom: Not OK - works if "Always On" is selected
-Cropmarks: OK
-Ghost Image: OK
-Spotmeter: OK
-False Color: OK
-Histogram: OK
-Waveform: OK
-Vectorscope: OK
Movie
-BitRate: Not OK
-REC Key: OK
-Gradual Exposure: Not OK
-FPS Override: Not availbale with Alpha0
-HDR Video: Not OK
-Vignetting: OK, but had no Lens to really test it
-Image Finetuning: Not OK
-Movie Tweaks: OK
Shoot
-Intervalometer: Not OK

Included Modules
- Raw_rec: OK - only tested 720p with Sandisk Extreme 95MB/s continuous shooting was possible

Other issues:
Shutter-Speed display has an offset
1/30   1/40
1/40   1/50
1/50   1/60
1/60   1/80
1/80   1/100
1/100  1/125
1/125  1/160
1/160  1/215
1/200  1/250
1/250  1/320
1/320  1/430
1/400  1/500
1/500  1/640
1/650  1/850
1/800  1/1000
1/1000 1/1250

Focal-Length is also offset:
Canon 24-70 4L
24mm   147mm
35mm   134mm
50mm   124mm
70mm   117mm
Full Macro   102mm

Sigma 17-35mm
17mm   142mm
20mm   142mm
24mm   105mm
28mm   75mm
35mm   75mm

Canon 70-200 4L
70mm   88mm
100mm  88mm
135mm  88mm
200mm  88mm

Aperture Display is stuck at lowest (full open) aperture of the lens.

In Photo-Mode Shutter Speed is not displayed.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 19, 2015, 05:56:10 PM
Just to keep the serial # posts down.
If your serial number is 6871947635 or less, the alpha build wont load.
If your serial number is higher it should load.

That's what the trend has been, and that's what the binary points to. Post if your load result & serial number disagree with above.

There could be a freaky out-liner or so, but that that would be based on freak luck in random unallocated bits.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: rotaryman on January 19, 2015, 07:25:24 PM
Here is another issue (that's not so much of a big deal) with the LiveView ML displays. Just went to charge the batteries from my battery grip and noticed:

- battery grip with 2 batteries the LiveView display reads battery level correctly
- if you only have one battery in your battery grip: battery level in Battery Grip slot 1 reads correctly on LiveView display
- if you have only one battery in your battery grip: battery level in Battery Grip slot 2 reads 100% at all times, regardless of battery level

Battery reads fine on Canon displays just faulty on LiveView in ML. Not a big deal, just thought I might point it out.

Once again thanks for the great work, enjoying it thoroughly.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ansius on January 19, 2015, 07:34:57 PM
the same is with every other battery grip (and camera, like 7D the same story, only one battery is shown) that supports reading both batteries (some alternative ones does not), it reads only one of them. As much I understood, it requires some revere engineering to find where the other info is hidden.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 19, 2015, 08:05:25 PM
Update: Alpha1 available. No new modules inbuilt

I will update the first post as soon as possible.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRZ1EzWFN4bXFqNjQ/view?usp=sharing

Plz check all reported bugs. Test Intervalometer, Trap Focus, and watch out for glitches, bugs or whatever seems wrong. Additionally do "Debug -> Burn-in-Test -> Quick-Test (15min)" and report you findings.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Furbster on January 19, 2015, 08:27:58 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on January 19, 2015, 08:05:25 PM

Plz check all reported bugs. Test Intervalometer, Trap Focus, and watch out for glitches, bugs or whatever seems wrong. Additionally do "Debug -> Burn-in-Test -> Quick-Test (15min)" and report you findings.

Burn-in test works made 5 mov's and created 2 .bin files
Intervalometer works tried 60 pics @ 5 sec interval
Trap focus works
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Mr.Click on January 19, 2015, 10:00:01 PM
Thank you very much, good work !  :)
I tryed the Quick Zoom , it still doesn´t  work properly. Zoom to 100% whith one single press doesn´t work too .
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: chrbhm on January 19, 2015, 11:54:03 PM
Guys,

alpha1 delivers Trap Focus and it works fine !!

Only this one feature makes it worth to install.

Rgds
Christian
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: true on January 19, 2015, 11:55:12 PM
The new Alpha 1 version can not install again on "older models", maybe you should first make the compatible version for all models and then make small improvements?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: bigorna on January 20, 2015, 12:03:09 AM
true, that's not going to happen. If you are interested, please read the first post to understand why. Let's leave people that can help with current version do their work. I believe it's the best way that we, who don't have a working 70D with this ML version to help.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: deusex1 on January 20, 2015, 01:36:18 AM
Hey guys, can anyone confirm, if the dual-pixel focus thingy works when shooting RAW?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Felipe on January 20, 2015, 03:03:57 AM
People, Does this raw has Pink dots ?, I know there are ways to solve that, but does this has ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 20, 2015, 03:22:27 AM
Quote from: deusex1 on January 20, 2015, 01:36:18 AM
Hey guys, can anyone confirm, if the dual-pixel focus thingy works when shooting RAW?

Yup, dual-pixel AF works when shooting raw.  Currently no AF box, but it still focuses where you touch.

Quote from: Felipe on January 20, 2015, 03:03:57 AM
People, Does this raw has Pink dots ?, I know there are ways to solve that, but does this has ?

No dots, clean image.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: markpa on January 20, 2015, 05:48:05 AM
Is there rack focus in alpha 1?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: theollybanks on January 20, 2015, 12:20:20 PM
I think true has a point but it would make far more sense to get a stable version on known working revisions and take that stable firmware over to the mysteriously different devices at a later date, either way canon's shoddy version control has made life unmitigatedly more difficult than it ought to be!  >:(
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 20, 2015, 04:05:26 PM
The serial number preventing loading is just one more bug - a priority 1 bug no doubt.
As for concerns about mass bricking if its fixed, well it doesn't look like the build when loaded bricks so its a not an issue.
Let's just hope Nik can fix the serial number loading, to bring more testers on board.
Cheers Nik.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: nikfreak on January 20, 2015, 04:57:37 PM
 Just read the 1st post, accept what is written there and plz stop posting any serial numbers. They don't matter.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: sepers on January 20, 2015, 05:53:51 PM
Hi there,

I believe the 'audio menu' (audio monitoring option via USB) isn't part of this Alpha-release?
I was wondering when I can expect it....  ;D

Greetings,

Matthijs
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: kaidian on January 20, 2015, 08:52:07 PM
Thanks for the Alpha1, well done so far.

Installation OK but noticed processor temperature rising steadily while interfacing with ML menus (not recording video). I switched off camera as it became hot at 75 degrees. I then installed a card without ML after cool down and worked with the camera for a while without the same temp rise as before. Anyone noticing the same issue?

Functions are OK as per last full list posted but will continue checking.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 20, 2015, 09:02:11 PM
About those temperature displayed. Please shoot a standard RAW/JPEG when temperature is up 70 or higher. Check temperature entry in RAW/JPEG and report.
Background: There are some cams having a gap between both numbers. Seems to be established there are different sensors used by ML and Canon (written to EXIF).
See http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9673.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: kaidian on January 20, 2015, 09:56:17 PM
Thanks Walter

My post was less to do with the temperature readout and its accuracy but more to do with the fact the the camera was getting hotter in my hand just going through ML menus for a 5 minute period, no images or video were shot. This does not happen with a non ML card while working with the camera for a 5 minute period. Its worth getting feedback on this from others who are testing the Alpha1.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Kauf on January 20, 2015, 10:33:22 PM
Building off of Walter's response (and his included link), since the temp is captured by Canon in the EXIF, you can also use this to determine if the camera is getting hotter with ML than without. You can use shooting video to get the camera heated up (if you think necessary) and press the shutter to capture a still with the temp in its EXIF. As Walter points out, ML developers have used this to aid ML's calculation of temp, but it can also be used to do rough comparisons between ML and non-ML if you suspect a significant difference.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Abe on January 21, 2015, 02:16:03 PM
Newbie here, only tested very few things.

    Overlays
    -Zebras: ____OK
    -Focus Peak: ____OK
    -MagicZoom: ____OK (Works with "Always ON" only and does not show the green bars even if in focus.)
    -Cropmarks: ____OK
    -Ghost Image: ____
    -Spotmeter: ____OK
    -False Color: ____OK
    -Histogram: ____OK
    -Waveform: ____OK
    -Vectorscope: ____OK
    Movie
    -BitRate: ____
    -REC Key: ____
    -Gradual Exposure: ____NOT OK
    -FPS Override: Not availbale with Alpha0
    -HDR Video: ____NOT OK
    -Vignetting: ____
    -Image Finetuning: ____
    -Movie Tweaks: ____OK
    Shoot
    -Intervalometer: ____
    -Motion Detect: ____
    -Shoot Preferences: ____
    Included Modules
    - Raw_rec: ____OK
    - ettr: ____
    - autoexpo: ____
    - ....
    Other issues:
    _______________

Mainly Used the Raw_rec codec shooting in 1728*736 (aspect 2.35:1). The 720p shoots continuous, and I got around 17-20sec with the 1728*736.

Huge thanks for all your efforts guys.
   
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: saeed2vfx on January 21, 2015, 08:23:48 PM
Hi,

I can confirm mine does not work after following the steps.

Possible reason is mine is the old 70D, bought in December 2013 with serial number of 028#########.

The camera says Firmware update program, loading... and immediately reboots with Sensor Cleaning and nothing happens. No activity on the red LED too.

Will wait for an update :)

Thanks alot nikfreak for your effort

(copy / paste & change serial)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: carlos787 on January 21, 2015, 11:21:26 PM
Saludos,
Great work nikfreak!!!! 70d bought in Dec 2014 and works like a charm. Been using 1280x720 for a few secs only but the raw image in post is cake for color grading. Looking forward to the next update.
Keep up the good workssss. 8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Felipe on January 22, 2015, 12:46:07 AM
Go 1280 x 544 continous
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: fever003 on January 22, 2015, 02:30:31 AM
Quote from: saeed2vfx on January 21, 2015, 08:23:48 PM
Hi,

I can confirm mine does not work after following the steps.

Possible reason is mine is the old 70D, bought in December 2013 with serial number of 028#########.

The camera says Firmware update program, loading... and immediately reboots with Sensor Cleaning and nothing happens. No activity on the red LED too.

Will wait for an update :)

Thanks alot nikfreak for your effort

(copy / paste & change serial)

Whutt?? U copied my post, haha. Well, looks like we are on the same page.  Will wait for the team to update, no pressure on nik and the team :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: saeed2vfx on January 22, 2015, 09:31:51 AM
QuoteWhutt?? U copied my post, haha. Well, looks like we are on the same page.  Will wait for the team to update, no pressure on nik and the team :)

ha ha, yeah. because my english is very low.

sorry fever003 :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 22, 2015, 06:53:52 PM
(copy / paste & change serial)

        Darn saeed2vfx ~ I was hoping this was a way you had found to solve the "No ML on older 70Ds" issue ~  {:-)
Title: I can't update ML... T_ T
Post by: 70D jonathan on January 22, 2015, 06:57:46 PM
Hi..
I follow your step but put the firmware update button(update "yes") suddenly my 70D cleaning sensor... -_ -;; and go back..

:-[ ..  my 70D number 038XXXXXXXXX.. , use transcend 16Gb X600 Sdcard(format fat32 in Imac)
I don't know my fault.. T,, T
please help me.. want use ML..
I wait your answer

Thank you! ^^
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: erno on January 22, 2015, 07:06:19 PM
Quote from: 70D jonathan on January 22, 2015, 06:57:46 PM
Hi..
I follow your step but put the firmware update button(update "yes") suddenly my 70D cleaning sensor... -_ -;; and go back..

:-[ ..  my 70D number 038XXXXXXXXX.. , use transcend 16Gb X600 Sdcard(format fat32 in Imac)
I don't know my fault.. T,, T
please help me.. want use ML..
I wait your answer

Thank you! ^^
Read the description! 1st post.
Title: RAW video on 70D - compatible cards
Post by: jhon_wane on January 22, 2015, 07:37:42 PM
Hello guys and thanks a lot for your work. You made a lot of us happy  :).
I want to prepare for RAW video and considering which card I need to buy in order to support 70D raw video at the max resolution and FPS that would be possible with ML.
Please help me choose between:
1. SDHC/SDXC?
2. 32GB? 64GB? MORE?
3  Needed writing speed for best results at max available quality and fps resolution?
4. SANDISK/LEXAR/OTHER?

Again - Thanks a lot guys for your work. Much appreciated.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Corto Maltese on January 22, 2015, 07:40:27 PM
any ideia for when will the other version of ml70d be avaible, for the 70d's that can't use this alpha ml?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Frarike on January 22, 2015, 07:42:01 PM
Quote from: jhon_wane on January 22, 2015, 07:37:42 PM
Hello guys and thanks a lot for your work. You made a lot of us happy  :).
I want to prepare for RAW video and considering which card I need to buy in order to support 70D raw video at the max resolution and FPS that would be possible with ML.
Please help me choose between:
1. SDHC/SDXC?
2. 32GB? 64GB? MORE?
3  Needed writing speed for best results at max available quality and fps resolution?
4. SANDISK/LEXAR/OTHER?

Again - Thanks a lot guys for your work. Much appreciated.



Wrong thread to ask this, search the forum.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 22, 2015, 07:44:56 PM
Quote from: Corto Maltese on January 22, 2015, 07:40:27 PM
any ideia for when will the other version of ml70d be avaible, for the 70d's that can't use this alpha ml?

FAQ -> Last section: Troll Questions -> Last one
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: bsauce42 on January 22, 2015, 08:04:39 PM
I'm guessing once the Alpha build is stable.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: starcat on January 22, 2015, 09:10:03 PM
Hello guys!

Overlays
-Zebras: ОК
-Focus Peak: Not OK
-MagicZoom: Not OK
-Cropmarks: ОК
-Ghost Image: ОК
-Spotmeter: ОК
-False Color: ОК
-Histogram: ОК
-Waveform: ОК
-Vectorscope: ОК
Movie
-BitRate: Not OK
-REC Key: ОК
-Gradual Exposure: Not OK
-FPS Override: Not availbale with Alpha0
-HDR Video: Not OK
-Vignetting: ОК
-Image Finetuning: Not OK
-Movie Tweaks: ОК
Shoot
-Intervalometer: Not OK
-Motion Detect: Not OK
-Shoot Preferences: Not OK
Included Modules
- Raw_rec: ОК
- ettr: ____
- autoexpo: Not OK 

Today I see the following limitations:
1. The representation of FPS, shutter speed,  aperture and ISO on the screen are wrong.
2.  Magiclantern Menu resets always - it turns back to Live View.

Raw_rec works good. I shot with 24 fps (screen resolution - 1600x800) for 30 seconds. With the screen resolution 1344x672 my 70D works with no time limitations.  My memory card is SanDisk Extreme Pro 95 MB/s 64 GB. My test-shot is here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SNlwapEyKw

Thanks a lot for your work!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: PanzerMamba on January 22, 2015, 10:52:26 PM
Wow, really nice looking shoot, especially outodoor views.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 23, 2015, 12:04:03 AM
Thanks for sharing @starcat!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 23, 2015, 04:19:43 AM
Quote from: starcat on January 22, 2015, 09:10:03 PM
Raw_rec works good. I shot with 24 fps (screen resolution - 1600x800) for 30 seconds. With the screen resolution 1344x672 my 70D works with no time limitations.  My memory card is SanDisk Extreme Pro 95 MB/s 64 GB. My test-shot is here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SNlwapEyKw

Thanks a lot for your work!

Nice video! The raw footage really puts in perspective just how soft the h264 footage is.  Can't stand that softness.  I also found it very interesting how switching to raw almost completely eliminated the color aliasing in the 3rd shot.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: CorentinF on January 23, 2015, 03:18:21 PM
Hi everyone !

I currently has a 70D and I want to buy a new SD card for making raw video. Just wondering the debit needed (in Mo/s) for shooting at 1600x900 24fps ? Thank you guys !

Another question (valid on every ML version), if you success to record raw video and change the fps rate, the video size, the debit in H264. Isn't possible to take 1080p 60fps or 1440p video ? The captor, buffer, card speed and even processor are enough to do it no ?

Good luck with the developement ! Can't wait a stable version :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: walter_schulz on January 23, 2015, 03:24:46 PM
Data rate required (Continuous in RAW/MLV mode) = Vertical pixel/resolution * horizontal resolution * frame rate * 14 / 8
1600 * 900 * 24 * 14 / 8 = 60,480,000 Bytes/s -> 57,7 MByte/s
Maximum bandwidth for SD-card interface in 70D: About 41 MByte/s.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 23, 2015, 07:43:11 PM
Quote from: CorentinF on January 23, 2015, 03:18:21 PM

Another question (valid on every ML version), if you success to record raw video and change the fps rate, the video size, the debit in H264. Isn't possible to take 1080p 60fps or 1440p video ? The captor, buffer, card speed and even processor are enough to do it no ?

No.  http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/faq#troll_questions

There's a hardware limitation and a long technical explanation that isn't worth typing out.  Trust us, it's been tried and it's just not possible.

Please read the FAQ and guides and use the forum search tool before posting questions, you'd be surprised how often a question has already been answered elsewhere.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: jhon_wane on January 23, 2015, 09:03:19 PM
From my own research and from answers in this post,
I understand that 45 Mb/s card (such as sundisk extreme) will be enough for the 70D raw video.
m i right?
I have tried looking in other posts and I'm still not sure.
Some guys told that 95Mb/s is better, but its beyond camera capabilities so i don't understand how.

I'm really think that nikfreak and all others ML developers should get percentages from Sandisk selling of SD cards.
Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: offshore on January 23, 2015, 11:10:16 PM
on my 70D don't work!  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ hope in a better future!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: draco on January 23, 2015, 11:11:26 PM
If the card has a minimum write speed over 45 MB/s it should be fine problem is card specs are normally overrated
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: ukmdb on January 24, 2015, 12:00:46 AM
Whoo Hoo!! I am a lucky one.
Just one obvious point I would like to point out. Well 2 actually.

1. I used a after market battery that is not recorgnised in camera. ML would not give me the OK.
I swapped it out for an official battery (guess as long as it is readable by canon any battery would be ok) I then got the smily face and all good to go.

2. The point about making sure your in the info screen was also important for me. I couldn't get the OK. So I thought which info screen? (pressing inf button gives several optional screens) It had to be on the screen where you can change WB and Colour temp. etc.
For some reason as soon as I tried again while on this screen all worked.

Now for testing..
If anyone got any specific requests I am happy to test and answer. My main requirement is continuous recording. So that is the first thing I shall be trying (how long can i record before it stops)

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: ubermood on January 24, 2015, 10:27:07 AM
I second that.. For me (as first-time user of ML), it was a little bit unclear which infoscreen was meant, since there are several to choose from.

Apart from that, ML works OK for me. Since it's my first time using ML I'm not sure how all functions should work, so I don't feel comfortable reporting back which are working correctly and not..

My personal overall impression is that it feels a little bit flumsy and clumpsy. Like having Frankenstein living in my camera. Magic zoom for example flickers when pressning shutter halfway to focus, or when selecting any other size of the zoombox but "medium" distorts the aspect ratio of the zoomed in image.. Flickering here and there.. In liveliew my f/value does not update when changed.. I can't see which shutterspeed I have etc etc.

As I mentioned, I'm not sure it should be like this or if it's just because it's still alpha(1).. so I'll sit here quietely and just watch the progress. 8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: PanzerMamba on January 24, 2015, 03:17:00 PM
Could someone share for download raw RAW file directly from sd card, recorded by ML alpha and canon 70D. I would be greatful ;) And I suppose not only me  8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Twentytwo on January 24, 2015, 03:44:02 PM
Hi guys, i have 64GB SD card, write speed 80mb/s and when i record in RAW , video early stop. sometimes 5 seconds , sometimes 27 seconds. Other card (45mb/s) other times.  please, WHY?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 24, 2015, 03:55:34 PM
You won't bother to tell which settings you used?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Twentytwo on January 24, 2015, 04:17:49 PM
1504x392 , Aspect ratio: 2.35:1
f4.0 / 1/70 / ISO 1600 /53...9 FPS

64GB card 80mb/s - 13 seconds
32GB card 45mb/s - 13 seconds

1280x334 Aspect ratio: 2.35:1
f4.0 / 1/70 / ISO 1600 / 53...9 FPS

64GB card 80mb/s - 54-55 seconds
32GB card 45mb/s - 54 seconds

1280x544 Aspect ratio: 2.35:1
f4.0 / 1/70 / ISO 1600 / 26,9 FPS

64GB card 80mb/s - 4:00 up - without early stop
32GB card 45mb/s - 2:10 up  - without early stop

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 24, 2015, 04:29:53 PM
You tested 1504x392 with 9 to 53 fps and recording stopped after 13 seconds? Frame rate just doesn't matter?
First post tells fps override is not available ...

Don't touch fps settings. Just use defaults.
Different results now?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Twentytwo on January 24, 2015, 04:50:00 PM
fps was around 53,9... sorry
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 24, 2015, 04:59:47 PM
Was this setting changed by you or was it just the value displayed by ML? If second: Was this the actual frame rate?

If it was the actual frame rate:
Bandwidth = Vertical resolution * horizontal resolution * frame rate * 14 / 8
1504 * 392 * 59.3 * 14 / 8 = 61,182,419.2 -> 58.4 MByte/s
SD-card interface bandwidth is about 41 MByte/s
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: nikfreak on January 24, 2015, 05:03:48 PM
unfortuantely I am not able to share a more advanced release with you. We are going to test some more alphas. I will share the next link soon. Still most features like full resolution silent pictures or dot-tune won't be available for you. They work but only for me atm because they require properties enabled. First i need more feedback from you and have to solve some quirks like ASIF crashing, FPS-override and some other smallies.

What to expect with the next alpha:
- Indeed temperatures were too high. It will decrease now by 10°. will be much better
- Focus confirmation is fixed
- Quickzoom had been reported to not work. it will work now (didn't try myself until now so no clue if the reported bug was ok)
- Magic Zoom behaviour should be ok now (had been reported that buttons don't work as expected)
- You will get hardcoded fps (24 will be 24 instead of 21.xxx and so on) but still no fps-override
- No audio features in next build
- Overall stability

That's all for now...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Abe on January 24, 2015, 06:07:19 PM
Thanks nikfreak for the efforts so far.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 24, 2015, 06:39:14 PM
That's still great news @nikfreak -- thanks for keeping this development up to speed!

*cheers*
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Abe on January 24, 2015, 07:09:07 PM
Guys, don't want to deviate the thread but to answer @TwentyTwo, here are the speeds I'm getting with the Alpha 1:

Sandisk Extreme Pro 16Gb here:
F2.8, 800 ISO (it was at night ), 1/50 shutter speed

1600 x 600, 2:66 Aspect Ratio, Continuous
1600 x 680, 2:35 Aspect Ratio, 1832 frames (35 seconds)
1728 x 736, 2:35 Aspect Ratio, 560 frames (26 seconds)

Did not test any other Aspect Ratio as of now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: deusex1 on January 24, 2015, 09:29:06 PM
Hi guys. I want to also report, that after tweaking the MP menus around 5-10 minutes, I felt my camera hot in my hand, when I looked to the temp counter it was 80 degrees. That is too hot. I see the next update will alleviate tis problem to some extent, but I wonder, why is it happening? What is the ML menu doing? It is not like it is recording video during the menu operations?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 24, 2015, 10:04:53 PM
Quote from: deusex1 on January 24, 2015, 09:29:06 PM
Hi guys. I want to also report, that after tweaking the MP menus around 5-10 minutes, I felt my camera hot in my hand, when I looked to the temp counter it was 80 degrees. That is too hot. I see the next update will alleviate tis problem to some extent, but I wonder, why is it happening? What is the ML menu doing? It is not like it is recording video during the menu operations?

It's not actually 80 degrees, ML is reporting the wrong temperature.  It's being fixed to report the real temperature.  I think the 70D just runs hotter than other cameras, mine would get just as warm to touch even before ML, ML is not making it hotter.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: deusex1 on January 24, 2015, 11:46:16 PM
Anyone knows what is the proper way to uninstal ML alpha? I've formatted the SD card, but camera sometimes has problems starting up. If I remove the SD card and put it back again, the camera does not start. Need to remove battery in order to start.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Abe on January 25, 2015, 11:21:20 AM
Quote from: deusex1 on January 24, 2015, 11:46:16 PM
Anyone knows what is the proper way to uninstal ML alpha? I've formatted the SD card, but camera sometimes has problems starting up. If I remove the SD card and put it back again, the camera does not start. Need to remove battery in order to start.

You can go to the firmware tab of your canon menu, press OK and then follow the instructions. At some point, you should have clear understanding of what to do. Also please search the forum as there is a thread regarding this: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=2569.0

I'm not sure if it will apply to the alpha 1, or if that is doable as of now but at least you can have a look.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 25, 2015, 11:29:32 AM
My opinion: I wouldn't even try to reset cam's bootflag in this state of development! Not until a free pass is given by devs.

Formating the card using a cardreader should be enough to stop ML from loading. You may check if the card is bootable by EOScard/Macboot. Those tools are able to remove such settings from the card, too.

@nikfreak: Your initial post doesn't discuss bootflag issues and doesn't include an uninstallation section. Would you mind adding some info about it?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: deusex1 on January 25, 2015, 11:58:31 AM
Yes apparently the bootflag got stuck in my camera, even though I formatted the card. At this alpha state, there is no menu instructions to un-install ML. My camera had the same issues reported by that thread you pointed out - 3sec boot time (very slow) and after the SD card is removed, the camera gets non responsive/bricked until the battery goes out and in again.

Now very unexpectedly the camera fixed itself! How? No idea! It was in that "bricked" state with the power switch set to "on", but still non responsive. I left it on my desk and after 2-3 minutes it just switched on by itself. After that, there are no more of the stated above problems. Is it possible, that Canon has some fail-safe function and cleans its bootflags / reinstalls factory firmware if problems are detected?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: nikfreak on January 25, 2015, 12:08:33 PM
still not clear to me where deusex formatted his card. Using a sdcard reader or by using Canon menu to format card and (1) keep ML or (2) remove ML? There's the option to switch with Q button. Also on page 1 see replies #10 and #11.

Quote from: deusex1 on January 25, 2015, 11:58:31 AM
At this alpha state, there is no menu instructions to un-install ML.

Which menu instructions do you refer to? Any other cam shouldn't have this...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: deusex1 on January 25, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
Oh I formatted the SD card on the PC, not in camera. Was that a bad idea?

There is no menu instructions to un-install ML.  - I was refering to instructions during re-installation.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: nikfreak on January 25, 2015, 02:51:52 PM
I guess there are instructions on the forum how to uninstall. See also Digitalveil's reply #16
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: ontheset on January 25, 2015, 03:06:32 PM
Well i guess my camera has the old FW revision(# starts with 032*******).
We'll just have to wait for the next one......it sucks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: deusex1 on January 25, 2015, 03:59:35 PM
Ok so generally formatting the SD externally is not recommended. Its better to do it in camera with the "remove ML" option. Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 25, 2015, 04:05:27 PM
Quote from: deusex1 on January 25, 2015, 03:59:35 PMOk so generally formatting the SD externally is not recommended. Its better to do it in camera with the "remove ML" option. Thanks!
Can't see that. Both ways will result in a non-bootable card and that's all needed to disable ML from loading.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: maitimaus on January 25, 2015, 04:46:14 PM
Big thanks to nikfreak  ;) I have only the old 70D form December 2013 :'( so at the moment I can't test anything...

I calculated that 1551x660@23,976 must be the highest continuous resolution on the 70D at 2,35:1 aspect ratio . Can someone of the alpha testers confirm that it's working continuous?

1551 * 660 * 23,976 * 14 / 8 = 42,950,726 Bytes/s -> 40.961 MByte/s

And can someone tell me if raw recording on the 70D is only possible with higher crop factors or with the same crop factor like a typical H264 1920x1080p recording?

And my last question to you: What data rate is later required for mlv audio?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 25, 2015, 04:58:17 PM
This 41 MByte/s number always coming around is the limit. But it doesn't say you can go to 40.9 all the time. The closer you get to the limit the closer you get to unwanted hickups.
May work once or twice but may cause stops just whenever not wanted.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 25, 2015, 07:05:28 PM
   As stated prev', My 70D is from Dec2013 so I am Waiting&WatchingPatiently ~ But ~ Am wondering if those who have had

success would be so kind as to post a Pic' of the InfoScreen that they used During Their SuccessfulInstall ~ & Possibly some Details on

Camera &or Lens Settings that You think might have been involved in Your Success ~

                        ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 25, 2015, 07:26:22 PM
The issue with crop, is not the that the 70D cant do a 3X crop to get a 2K picture but its the SD card writer limitations.
1600x680 apsect 2.35, 24 fps, for 30s, is about the limit of usefull higher res from what tests have shown so far. 
Ofcourse if you want to shoot clips longer than 30s at any aspect you can always shoot 1280xwhatever raw continuous.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: kubodhi on January 26, 2015, 02:41:15 AM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on January 25, 2015, 07:05:28 PM
   As stated prev', My 70D is from Dec2013 so I am Waiting&WatchingPatiently ~ But ~ Am wondering if those who have had

success would be so kind as to post a Pic' of the InfoScreen that they used During Their SuccessfulInstall ~ & Possibly some Details on

Camera &or Lens Settings that You think might have been involved in Your Success ~

                        ORR ~ DeanB

Noticed this today, maybe it'll help you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1YOAPxWe0I
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 26, 2015, 05:43:35 AM
                    Kubodhi

          Good Find ~ Thanks for the post ~ I suspect it will be of help to more than just me ~ When the day comes ~

                                                                                                          ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: TomJ on January 26, 2015, 06:09:36 AM
ML menu kicks me out, goes back to LV arbitrarily. Goes right back to ML menu with delete, but then kicks me out random time later.

Display flashes in one-second intervals at all times. RAW vid records to 10-seconds and stops auto.

Sony 32gb C10, U3 94mb/s cards.

Not sure how useful any of that is, but LMK if there's more I can give.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Abe on January 26, 2015, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: TomJ on January 26, 2015, 06:09:36 AM
ML menu kicks me out, goes back to LV arbitrarily. Goes right back to ML menu with delete, but then kicks me out random time later.

Display flashes in one-second intervals at all times. RAW vid records to 10-seconds and stops auto.

Sony 32gb C10, U3 94mb/s cards.

Not sure how useful any of that is, but LMK if there's more I can give.

If I'm not mistaken, nikfreak indicated it was a known bug.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 26, 2015, 10:31:33 AM
That's correct , it is a known bug.

Similar to EOS-M.

No big deal, really!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: ovspianist on January 26, 2015, 02:56:07 PM
Hi guys,

Sorry if my question seems newbie to ask here, but I've been searching the internet for hours but cannot find any answer.
I've done everything as instruction says but when I start the EOSCard 1.40 program, it says ERROR: exFAT VBR load failed.
Previously my drive is formatted as FAT32, it said ERROR: FAT32 VBR load failed.

Has anyone seen this error before?

Thank you all very much!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: walter_schulz on January 26, 2015, 03:05:11 PM
There are some references for this error. Let me guess: You're using an internal SD-cardreader?
Get an external one and try again.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: ovspianist on January 26, 2015, 05:17:07 PM
Thank you! Yes the problem comes from internal sd card reader, I updated sdcard reader's driver and everything worked fine!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: PanzerMamba on January 26, 2015, 07:03:40 PM
Guys, plz could somebody share with raw video material directly from magic lantern/camera 70d? I just want to try colloc corection on material from 70d ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Edu on January 27, 2015, 12:47:22 AM
Hi, I installed the Alpha release on my 70D (w) with serial starting with: #0280, made in JAPAN.

I did all the steps in multiple variations but never got the playback screen displaying the picture (taken before update) with the boot message... no luck!

Will wait until the update...

Thanks

Eduardo
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: carlos787 on January 27, 2015, 02:59:14 AM
Waz up guys,
A little detail here, I'm starting to get hot pixels in my raw footage. is anyone else having this issue? Everything was working fine at first for a week then on Saturday I went out to take some videos with same settings i have been using and im getting hot pixels in the same area every time. On canons native video recording I dont get the pixels (tried and tested), neither on raw photos (CR2). I was researching this and it appears that some people have had this issues with cameras like the 5d. /Some say its a firmware glitch others just run a pixel patcher (inefficient).
Workflow:
1280x720 continuous, cbr 3.0x (havent seen any major differences either, dont know if its working)
process RAW files through Rawinizer, extracting DNGs then open in resolve then export to DNXHD 422.

I have also done the manual sensor cleaning to fix hot pixels but in ML RAW REC only pixels stay the same (damaged).
Solutions anyone?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: deusex1 on January 27, 2015, 03:12:03 AM
Carlos, I got some PINK hot pixels only if I convert the RAW through MlRawViewer_1_3_3 and chose the Prores output. If I chose the DNG output - no hot pixels.
Havent used Rawanizer. Also to note, that pink pixels occur near very bright areas on the clipping border.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 27, 2015, 04:29:30 AM
I'm afraid Rawinizer isn't supported on ML...

Though I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: flerk on January 27, 2015, 12:38:08 PM
Hey, Im new here and sorry if this is in the wrong thread or asked like 5000 times. dont kill me ;p
How do I know which model 70D I have?

I see people talkong about a december 2013 model and stuff?

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: walter_schulz on January 27, 2015, 12:42:32 PM
Quote from: flerk on January 27, 2015, 12:38:08 PMHow do I know which model 70D I have?
After you tried installing it and failed twice: You have the cam version not supported yet.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: grey on January 27, 2015, 01:14:39 PM
Hi to all. I'm just install ML on my 70D. The installation was not according to instruction. You might assume that after shooting should go view the captured frame. But many people have autoreview off. And while I myself have not pressed a play key the message about the successful activation of the boot loader did not appear.

I buy 70D in July 2014. Just for statistics.

Raw video + continuous AF is excellent pair.
Thank to all ML development group for your work.

And sorry for my bad English.  :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Piggy on January 27, 2015, 08:28:53 PM
Overlays
-Zebras: NOT OK They flicker on and off when autofocusing
-Focus Peak: NOT OK Same issue as zebras
-MagicZoom: ____
-Cropmarks: OKBut sometimes canon modules pop up and overlay on top of it
-Ghost Image: ____
-Spotmeter: ____
-False Color: ____
-Histogram: OK
-Waveform: OK
-Vectorscope: ____
Movie
-BitRate: NOT OK
-REC Key: OK
-Gradual Exposure: ____
-FPS Override: Not availbale with Alpha0
-HDR Video: NOT OK
-Vignetting: ____
-Image Finetuning: ____
-Movie Tweaks: OK
Shoot
-Intervalometer: OK
-Motion Detect: OK
-Shoot Preferences: ____
Included Modules
- Raw_rec: OK, but stops recording at 10 secs with a 95 MB/s Sandisk
- ettr: ____
- autoexpo: ____
- ....
Other issues:
Seems like anything that overlays over liveview, and the image affects the output (Zebras, Focus Peaking, etc) flashes when autofocusing
_______________________________________
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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: CorentinF on January 27, 2015, 08:33:31 PM
Hi, i've just installed ML alpha1 succesfully following the video :)

Review

Overlays
-Zebras: Works fine.
-Focus Peak: Works fine.
-MagicZoom: Nothing when active :/
-Cropmarks: Works fine
-Ghost Image: ____
-Spotmeter: Works fine
-False Color: Works fine
-Histogram: Works fine
-Waveform: Works fine
-Vectorscope: Works fine
Movie
-BitRate: Do nothing (no change in the file)
-REC Key: Working
-Gradual Exposure: Don't really know what it supposed to do, see no change
-FPS Override: Not availbale with Alpha0
-HDR Video: Working
-Vignetting: ____
-Image Finetuning: Working
-Movie Tweaks: Working
Shoot
-Intervalometer: ____
-Motion Detect: ____
-Shoot Preferences: ____
Included Modules
- Raw_rec: ____
- ettr: ____
- autoexpo: ____
- ....
Other issues:
- Known but still : The ML menu is closing after a few seconds
- Internal temperature growing super fast, 76°C in about 10 minutes...

I will try raw rec soon.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Piggy on January 27, 2015, 08:44:14 PM
Quote from: CorentinF on January 27, 2015, 08:33:31 PM
Other issues:
- Knows but still : The ML menu is closing after a few seconds
- Internal temperature growing super fast, 76°C in about 10 minutes...

I will try raw rec soon.

Forgot to include this, the temperature on my camera also rises extremely fast, goes from 20°C to 49°C in a few mins
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: TomJ on January 28, 2015, 03:50:25 AM
QuoteForgot to include this, the temperature on my camera also rises extremely fast, goes from 20°C to 49°C in a few mins

Ditto here. Had an overheat shutdown using ML this weekend. Flashbacks to using the 7D in India some years ago and having to force cool it...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: nikfreak on January 28, 2015, 09:45:01 AM
As announced here (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg138564#msg138564) I uploaded a new build for you to test. Once I get some positive feedback I will update the first post, too.

Quote
What to expect with the next alpha:
- Indeed temperatures were too high. It will decrease now by ~10°. will be much better
- Focus confirmation is fixed
- Quickzoom had been reported to not work. it will work now (didn't try myself until now so no clue if the reported bug was ok)
- Magic Zoom behaviour should be ok now (had been reported that buttons don't work as expected)
- You will get hardcoded fps 23.98xx (24 will be 24 instead of 21.xxx and so on) but still no fps-override
- No audio features in next build
- Overall stability

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRUHNReFN4RmdYVEU/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Abe on January 28, 2015, 12:51:27 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on January 28, 2015, 09:45:01 AM
As announced here (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg138564#msg138564) I uploaded a new build for you to test. Once I get some positive feedback I will update the first post, too.

Thanks nikfreak for the update.

Just installed it and did some tests (Format Card + Q to remove previous ML first )

Overlays:
-Zebras: OK
-Focus Peak: OK
-MagicZoom: OK (Still not displaying the green bars. Also switched to split screen, same issue, does not confirms the focus. Both on Autofocus and Manual Focus. I don't know if issue could be lens-specific since I did not try with another lens.)
-Cropmarks: OK
-Ghost Image: ____
-Spotmeter: OK
-False Color: OK
-Histogram: OK (For some reason, the simplified histogram did not work. Only the full one works)
-Waveform: OK
-Vectorscope: OK

The other categories were not deeply tested, same results as everybody else here.

Other:
- Temperature seems to be a bit better, although I did not shoot that much. Some clips here and there. Got 60° after 6-7 minutes.
- Exporting .RAW to DNG via Raw2cdng now shows the correct FPS: 23.978 (Previously was 22 FPS with Alpha 1)
- QuickZoom works now for the 100% scale. When changing to "zoom to autofocus point", still acts as a 100% zoom, not on autofocus point.
- The famous bug with the ML menu quitting after few seconds seems to happen a bit faster than on Alpha 1 (that's my feeling, but will wait for other's confirmation. Anyway, not a big deal)


PS:
At some point, I went to format the card and wanted to keep ML on it (using the Q button while in the format menu).
I specifically chose the "Keep ML" and it format+removed ML.
Kind of a bug, I don't know, but at least people who wants to remove completely ML knows that it works perfectly ;p

Thanks nikfreak for all the efforts.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: nikfreak on January 28, 2015, 01:04:06 PM
Quote from: Abe on January 28, 2015, 12:51:27 PM
...
At some point, I went to format the card and wanted to keep ML on it (using the Q button while in the format menu).
I specifically chose the "Keep ML" and it format+removed ML.
Kind of a bug, I don't know, but at least people who wants to remove completely ML knows that it works perfectly ;p

Thanks nikfreak for all the efforts.

Yeah y'all need to wait until I add this (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/branch/restore-after-format). Shouldn't be a dealbreaker but that will solve all quirks with restoring / formatting
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: camslide on January 28, 2015, 01:55:44 PM
Hey guys!
Is it possible to access the wifi settings through ML? Especially I would be interested if it is possible to have more than 3 sets for mobile phone access... I'm using 2 different apps on 2 devices (Tablet, Smartphone) This would require 4 profiles if I would go for direct wifi connection. However, at home I would like to use it in my home wifi to have Internet access on my devices while beeing connected to the camera -> 8 profiles. It's pretty annoying to only have 3.
I know, this is low priority but would be a nice feature.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: nikfreak on January 28, 2015, 03:22:21 PM
just updated the first post with the new download link, too
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: tuxfoto on January 28, 2015, 03:54:14 PM
Hi nikfreak,

THANKS FOR YOUR EXCELLENT WORK!!!

For Alpha2 you can change the Changelog?
What is new?

Thank You
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Makadamia on January 28, 2015, 04:12:34 PM
@tuxfoto: Please see http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg138852#msg138852
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: tuxfoto on January 28, 2015, 04:20:18 PM
Oh, sorry i forget my glasses  8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Mr.Click on January 28, 2015, 08:14:49 PM
Thank You very much Nikfreak !  Quickzoom is working fine now ! And thank´s for Dot Tune  :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: TomJ on January 28, 2015, 08:19:47 PM
BTW, Nikfreak and other dev's, if you're ever in the Denver or Boulder area, shout me up, drinks on me for finally getting this rolling.

I may post probs with ML, but it's not complaining, I'm actually ecstatic just to have something running after drooling for over a year about it!! YEEHAWW!!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: true on January 28, 2015, 08:41:36 PM
what is the sense to release new versions, if half of the cameras do not support this firmware? :-\
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 28, 2015, 08:45:41 PM
Debugging the port. That's what is done right now.
No, it's not just "take the working code from another cam, change 2 software settings and the port is done".
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: nikfreak on January 28, 2015, 08:49:59 PM
Quote from: Mr.Click on January 28, 2015, 08:14:49 PM
Thank You very much Nikfreak !  Quickzoom is working fine now ! And thank´s for Dot Tune  :)

hey Mr. Click,

dot tune works fine here with properties enabled. Didn't test with properties disabled which is the case for Alpha2. In theory it shouldn't write values back to Canon menu with Alpha2. Maybe you got lucky and it will work w/o writing values but show the correct afma settings so you can set them manually. Is this fact for you?  In general I think a lot of people will be happy to use it cause the 70D has been somewhat discussed about afma problems on different forums.... Now they will get an automated way to run it as often and as fast as possible. :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: carlos787 on January 28, 2015, 10:48:30 PM
 8) thanks again nikfreak, great work!!!

Initially had some small issues with recording but with a little research everything is working fine!!!

I'm new to magic lantern and DSLRs but this hack is the bomb!!!
already installed alpha 2

little video just to see detail and quality, recorded with alpha 1.
http://youtu.be/tsdn8URZmAY

let me know what you think..
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Glassed on January 28, 2015, 11:51:39 PM
Congrats on the Alpha 2 Release !, looks like the port is growing fast ! :D

Any news on the support for early 2014 70D`s ?

The raw video may be lower res, but certainly looks awesome!

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 29, 2015, 05:29:06 AM
"what is the sense to release new versions, if half of the cameras do not support this firmware?"

              True ~ ChillOut

        It makes HugeSense ~ It's a MonumentalTask for NikFreak&Friends to do what they are doing for us on Just 1 FirmwareIteration ~

If they had 2 F'W's & 2 Sets of BugReports from AllOfUs to DealWith it Could QuiteConceivably get MonumentallyConfusing ~

        Just think how nice it's going to be Once ItIsOurTurn ~ The OtherGuy MayHaveAlready Found AllTheBugs ~

                                                                                                                   ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: deusex1 on January 29, 2015, 02:47:51 PM
Thanks for your efforts, nikfreak, you are actually making a difference in the filmmaking community! We owe you!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Mr.Click on January 29, 2015, 05:30:07 PM
I tried Dot Tune, ist doesn´t work. It starts and then stops after 2 Seconds with a note saying " canceled by user" 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: theamazingaustin on January 30, 2015, 02:31:03 AM
New here, and just want to say HUGE thanks to the devs working on the 70D. So stoked and looking forward to a stable / beta build!

Quick question for y'all, is / will 1080p @ 60fps be possible with ML on the 70D? SO sorry if this was asked / there is an obvious answer, search didn't turn up anything that I could see.

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Piggy on January 30, 2015, 03:35:57 AM
Quote from: theamazingaustin on January 30, 2015, 02:31:03 AM
New here, and just want to say HUGE thanks to the devs working on the 70D. So stoked and looking forward to a stable / beta build!

Quick question for y'all, is / will 1080p @ 60fps be possible with ML on the 70D? SO sorry if this was asked / there is an obvious answer, search didn't turn up anything that I could see.

Thanks guys!

As of right now, no, it barely works @ 960p at 21 frames a sec, it will only record for 10 seconds +/-
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: vfero on January 30, 2015, 03:36:34 AM
Hello All,


I'm sorry to ask this question once more but didn't get any answer... Is the advanced bracketing available on this ML? I don't talk about HDR video, just the ability to make more brackets.

Thanks a lot,
VFero
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: maxxens on January 30, 2015, 09:28:18 AM
I have a general question. What exactly happens when the first step (the Firmwareupdate) is executed and are the changes reversible?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: walter_schulz on January 30, 2015, 09:42:21 AM
There is a thingy called "bootflag" set in the camera. This is - at time of writing - non-reversible and causes a delay (about 1.5 seconds) at startup and exiting powersave mode.
The rest (executable code) is stored in the card.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: maxxens on January 30, 2015, 10:23:27 AM
I expected that there would be some flag. The question was only, if setting this flag is reversible and if you could get problems with cps.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: walter_schulz on January 30, 2015, 10:31:23 AM
See FAQ. There is not a single report about problems with CPS and/or other support departments since ML is in the wild.

But this piece of code is in alpha stage.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: maxxens on January 30, 2015, 11:44:54 AM
I know, that it is an alpha right now. Unfortunately I don't have time to help with the debugging myself but I am thankful for all who help improving ML and of course also the programmer :)
Until then I wait for a more stable version and/or more time to test myself..
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Piggy on January 30, 2015, 04:17:42 PM
Quote from: theamazingaustin on January 30, 2015, 02:31:03 AM
New here, and just want to say HUGE thanks to the devs working on the 70D. So stoked and looking forward to a stable / beta build!

Quick question for y'all, is / will 1080p @ 60fps be possible with ML on the 70D? SO sorry if this was asked / there is an obvious answer, search didn't turn up anything that I could see.

Thanks guys!
Actually I misunderstood your question, I thought you were talking about RAW, it is possible, but FPS override is not available right now
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: vfero on January 31, 2015, 08:11:40 PM
Installation of ML is OK but i can't follow step 11 ( eoscard say: Write Failed ). Does somebody knows how to make it work? So close to make it run :)

Thanks
Vince
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 31, 2015, 08:14:55 PM
EOScard version?
OS used?
Internal/external writer?
Card type?

Have you tried different cardreaders?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: vfero on January 31, 2015, 08:19:03 PM
Sorry:

Eos Card 1.40
Windows 7
External Reader
Tried on another one and makes the same

SanDisk SDSDX-016G-FFP 16 GB 45 MB/s Extreme
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 31, 2015, 08:25:55 PM
Maybe (as in "maybe") your antivirus software is doing this. Are you able to deactivate your suite temporarily?
Or do you have another cam supported by ML?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: vfero on January 31, 2015, 08:32:38 PM
Antivirus off, it doesn't work. Gonna try another card
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: vfero on January 31, 2015, 08:54:49 PM
~Don't work with another card... Still trying!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 31, 2015, 09:46:16 PM
It will not be possible to shoot 1080p @ 60fps with the 70D in camera.
If you put it in 1280p at 60fps, then there is no 3X crop.
Without the crop you will get limitted by the camera max. res. which I am not sure for 70D, but its less than 1920x1080.
If you put it in 1920p at 24/30 fps and try to override fps to 60, you find actual fps is less than 60 fps.
So there is no way to do that.  Best bet is to shoot, 1280p at 60fps with higher bit rate, then up res. to 1080p.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: vfero on January 31, 2015, 10:11:49 PM
Got it. Comodo was blocking eoscard... Sorry

I've got now ML on my 70D :)

As i've said before, my 600D+ML does have advanced bracketing.
How to know if it's planned for 70D too?

Thanks all
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: chrbhm on February 01, 2015, 10:08:38 AM
Guys,

since I installed Alpha2 I encountered probs with TrapFocus. Worked mostly fine on Alpha1.
Shutter does not release on focus confirmation anymore.

Rgds
Christian

P.S.: Switching back to Alpha1 and Trap Focus works like a charm.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: cryptyk on February 01, 2015, 07:25:05 PM
It looks like ettr.mo isn't included in the Alpha2 release.  Is that intentional?  I see the module source in the repo...

Thanks!
Ryan
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: hi2gage.pdx on February 01, 2015, 07:50:09 PM
So whats the plan with the early serial numbers?
Are we just in the dark or are they working on ours too?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 01, 2015, 07:56:09 PM
Calm down and show patience. Current state is Alpha 2 and supporting two different firmware versions right now doesn't make that much sense.
In fact: You and all others with "the other" firmware version will benefit from those having to struggle with this alpha.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: nikfreak on February 01, 2015, 08:07:48 PM
Quote from: chrbhm on February 01, 2015, 10:08:38 AM
P.S.: Switching back to Alpha1 and Trap Focus works like a charm.

Ok found it and thx for reporting. Once I got some steps further i will include it but it may take some time. Actually I am kinda stuck on some bugs and that makes headaches plus rubs all time...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: DaaC234 on February 02, 2015, 09:10:23 AM
@nikfreak


(http://www.nomensa.com/blog/sites/default/files/blog/assets/uploads/2012/01/thankyou.png)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: PanzerMamba on February 02, 2015, 02:29:57 PM
How to uninstall ml alpha?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: walter_schulz on February 02, 2015, 02:37:43 PM
At time of writing you will be unable to remove cam's bootflag.
To wipe all ML content from card: Insert into cardreader and format it. There are some other ways to disable ML from running but this will work for sure.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Teran0vA on February 02, 2015, 04:45:10 PM
"Guys,

since I installed Alpha2 I encountered probs with TrapFocus. Worked mostly fine on Alpha1.
Shutter does not release on focus confirmation anymore.

Rgds
Christian

P.S.: Switching back to Alpha1 and Trap Focus works like a charm." - chrbhm

Alpha 1's Trap Focus is much slower compared to my 60D (same lens and settings) and starts to get very unresponsive after a bit of use, even sometimes randomly taking a picture a while (1 – 2 min) after the last focus confirmation. I haven't tried alpha 2 yet but it seems the same problem is still happening according to chrbhm. Strange that its fine on his Alpha 1. I'll try Alpha 2 later tonight when I get a chance.

Thanks for the hard work. Can't wait for the complete build ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: pkrskr on February 03, 2015, 09:06:22 AM
Hi,

I'm working on Computational Photography, specifically focal stack acquisition, and I'm looking to buy a new camera specifically to be able to use MagicLantern. Is this feature already working on the Canon 70D or should I purchase the older 60D just to be sure that the release is stable and everything works well.

Thanks in anticipation for your replies. I apologize if I'm on the wrong thread. I would love to contribute to development. Please guide me to where and how I can start.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Canniballissimo on February 03, 2015, 09:41:24 AM
pkrskr, this feature is available even with the application EOS Remote. There you can control the focus directly from your phone
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: walter_schulz on February 03, 2015, 09:49:09 AM
And for those deep, deep, deep into DFF motor driven macro rails (like StackShot) may be an option. Because they will work with non-AF lenses (MP-E 65), retro mounts and bellows, too.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Siedst on February 04, 2015, 04:26:51 PM
Hello everybody!
There is something confusing me about ML RAW video, and I don't know if its a known problem or a 70D issue.
The RAW video footage is always underexposed by 2/3 EV compared to the RAW.CR2-file.
When I press the shutter after making a raw video, with the exact same settings,
and I compare a DNG-file from the video with the CR2-file from the picture, than they have not the same exposure.

I know that ML raw is only working with ISO 100, 200, 400..

After some tests, I know that shutter-speed and aperture are not changing.
Aperture would change DOF and vignette. Shutter would result in flickering.

So I made a test with ISO100, aperture 22 (maximum) and shutter at 1/4000. It's not possible to get a darker picture in video mode.
And... the same... the ML raw dng-file is underexposed by 2/3 EV compared to the RAW.CR2-file.

How is it possible? Does ML RAW works with < 100 ISO ? Or is it a bug?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: a1ex on February 04, 2015, 04:49:05 PM
Canon's LiveView implementation uses a slightly lower ISO, compared to photo mode. The exposure is controlled by Canon code, not by ML.

Some measurements on other cameras: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10111.msg123221#msg123221

To get the same info for 70D, just run these tests: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10111.msg117955#msg117955
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Siedst on February 04, 2015, 06:09:58 PM
OK, there is different ISO for photo and video mode. Video uses lower ISO.

But why is the ML RAW footage also underexposed by 2/3 EV compared to the H264 video?
I tested all picture profiles with same exposure setting as the RAW video.
Both is video mode, right?

Also RAW-Histogram and RAW-Zebra show some overexposure/clipping. The final raw footage isn't overexposed.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: a1ex on February 04, 2015, 06:18:11 PM
When you develop a raw image, you can choose to clip some highlights (which simply results in a higher ISO). Why Canon chose to do so, you should ask them. I'm not a Canon engineer, so can't answer this one.

Another hypothesis: you might be confused by the highlight recovery applied by most raw processors. Canon doesn't apply any. The result is that your raw image has more highlight detail, and because of this, you called it "underexposed".

BTW - how exactly did you measure a 2/3-stop difference between a RAW (linear) image and a H.264 (nonlinear) one?

About zebra overexposure - you are the tester, so you need to upload some sample images showing the problem. Most likely, the white level assumed by ML might be lower than the real one. Your job is to find the correct value.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Siedst on February 04, 2015, 07:26:55 PM
Maybe it's all my fault and I am to dumb.

I noticed that all ML RAW footage was "to dark" compared to h264 video and photo RAW with same exposure settings.
I process RAW via Adobe Camera RAW with standard curve. (maybe this curve is the problem)
I think the Adobe Standard Curve is compareable with the Canon Picture Profiles.
Of course, each curve looks different, but they shouldn't result in a completely different exposure.

When i speak about 2/3 EV underexposure, I mean there is a overall shift about a 2/3-stop.
I measured it via a graycard, histogramm, and my eyes ;). Not scientific!

Here is a link with 2 pictures. Tomorrow i will do a better test.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lwcx999p30gkkw9/AAAHgbCqpNbK1eok0CqmvMjLa?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lwcx999p30gkkw9/AAAHgbCqpNbK1eok0CqmvMjLa?dl=0)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Bai_Niki on February 04, 2015, 08:09:12 PM
It doesnt work. My 70D is exact 1 Year old (it was bought from notebooksbiliger.de last February), perhaps is the old Version. I"ll wait, but nevertheless thank you :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: a1ex on February 04, 2015, 08:19:57 PM
Two issues with this approach:

1) ISO is not defined from overall brightness, but from the clipping point (so you should compare how many highlights get clipped)
2) the curves may not be comparable directly, unless you know them (and with closed-source image processors it's a little harder)

http://dougkerr.net/Pumpkin/articles/ISO_Dynamic_range.pdf
http://www.dxomark.com/About/In-depth-measurements/Measurements/ISO-sensitivity

See also http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12835.msg124226#msg124226

In any case, this is not a bug.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on February 05, 2015, 12:36:36 AM
RAW video captures the image straight from individual pixels on the cameras sensor. What you see in LiveView is canon's rendition based off of in camera settings, RAW removes these settings and writes the straight pixel data to a .RAW file. When you convert it, it will seem dark and flat until you color correct it. I might not understand your issue, but it may just be that LiveView shows a brighter (not underexposed) rendition, whereas the sensor is actually darker/possibly underexposed.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: JPP on February 05, 2015, 02:15:16 PM
Hey Guys, quick question.

I tried searching for a solution but I didn't find anything. Sorry if this came up before;

When I'm trying to record RAW video an error message appears after 4 seconds: "Early stop (11). Didn't make it to estimated record time."

Anyone knows what the problem might be ?

I'm using the SanDisk Extreme Pro 32 GB btw.

Thanks in advance !!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Abe on February 05, 2015, 02:46:11 PM
Quote from: JPP on February 05, 2015, 02:15:16 PM
Hey Guys, quick question.

I tried searching for a solution but I didn't find anything. Sorry if this came up before;

When I'm trying to record RAW video an error message appears after 4 seconds: "Early stop (11). Didn't make it to estimated record time."

Anyone knows what the problem might be ?

I'm using the SanDisk Extreme Pro 32 GB btw.

Thanks in advance !!!

Did you check the resolution you're shooting at?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on February 05, 2015, 02:46:42 PM
It depends on your recording settings, if the raw is above 720p in 16:9 or 1560p in 2.39:1, it overloads the cache memory, or the buffer.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: JPP on February 05, 2015, 03:16:35 PM
Quote from: Abe on February 05, 2015, 02:46:11 PM
Did you check the resolution you're shooting at?

Hey, yes I did. Currently I'm shooting at 1824 x 1026. That's the highest the camera would go.

Quote from: Guitarshredder1 on February 05, 2015, 02:46:42 PM
It depends on your recording settings, if the raw is above 720p in 16:9 or 1560p in 2.39:1, it overloads the cache memory, or the buffer.

That's probably my problem then... what resolution should I choose to shoot longer than a few seconds ?

Sorry for all these beginner questions, I'm just getting started with the whole ML+RAW thing and although I'm reading and learning a lot, it's quite overwhelming at times :)

Thanks for the help!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Piggy on February 05, 2015, 04:20:46 PM
Quote from: JPP on February 05, 2015, 03:16:35 PM
Hey, yes I did. Currently I'm shooting at 1824 x 1026. That's the highest the camera would go.

That's probably my problem then... what resolution should I choose to shoot longer than a few seconds ?

Sorry for all these beginner questions, I'm just getting started with the whole ML+RAW thing and although I'm reading and learning a lot, it's quite overwhelming at times :)

Thanks for the help!!

He basically told you what res to use...

720p in 16:9 or 1560p in 2.39:1
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: JPP on February 05, 2015, 05:45:37 PM
Quote from: Piggy on February 05, 2015, 04:20:46 PM
He basically told you what res to use...

720p in 16:9 or 1560p in 2.39:1

Yeah, I realised that after a while, I can be slow sometimes... :P
Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Matheus on February 05, 2015, 06:48:27 PM
Tried on my camera yesterday. No success :(

October 2013 model...
Title: Temporary Alternative
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on February 05, 2015, 08:57:29 PM
For those of you (us) with earlier serial numbers, that are anxiously and graciously waiting for ML to become available, I may have a temporary alternative, depending on your needs. 

DSLR Controller is an Android App that does some of the features found within ML.  You can connect your 70D to your Android Device via a USB OTG cable or via Wi-Fi. 

http://dslrcontroller.com/about.php

Note: I am not affiliated in any way with Chainfire or J.B. Jongma Holding B.V.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Torios on February 05, 2015, 09:26:23 PM
Only for participants of this forum. Free of charge. Еnjoy))

edit bij moderator:
--- Please do not post pirated software----
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: c4v3man on February 05, 2015, 09:45:35 PM
Just wanted to say that if you can afford a $200-600 phone, and a $1000+ camera, paying $8 to support an app developer isn't that much to ask.

That being said, I've found Wi-Fi on my 70D to be fiddly... I'll usually have to switch to a different set of connection settings on the 70d, then back to the set I'm trying to use, in order to get the camera to accept the connection. Not sure if it's the goofy permissions system on the camera possibly acting as a firewall, but I can oftentimes see the camera on the network (with a network scan), but am unable to connect to it using the app until I toggle to a different set then back.

Also keep in mind you'll need to use a different set of parameters on the camera when you use DSLRController as opposed to EOS Remote, since apparently the permissions system is bound to an app, not to a device. Since you can have 3 sets of settings on the camera (per connection mode) it's not too much hassle, just something to keep in mind.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: bsauce42 on February 06, 2015, 12:13:58 AM
You can also try dslrdashboard for iOS, android, apple window and Linux. The iOS version is Wi-Fi only.  Both great apps.

(iOS) qDslrDashboard by Zoltan Hubai
https://appsto.re/us/K75z2.i

Info http://dslrdashboard.info/
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: ar.pictures on February 07, 2015, 08:55:58 AM
Hi , in My 70D after Update ( Installing ML ) Nothing hapening !  :(
i Did evry things , but not installing..

Is it About Revisions?

HELP plz
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Audionut on February 07, 2015, 09:06:08 AM
Read the first post again!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Ozyozers on February 08, 2015, 11:18:24 AM
You guys are doing great job, can't wait to use ML in my 70D
Very much appreciated!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: PanzerMamba on February 08, 2015, 03:15:49 PM
I've installed ML Alpha2 on my 70D, and it's working, but there is a little problem with raw recording.
I have kingston with 80MB/s writing speed, and nevertheless camera won't save more than 3-4 seconds of raw dng material.
I have tried 2.35:1 and 16:9 aspect ratios, 1600x900 (should be 30 seconds, was 3 sec.) or 1270x720 (should be continuous, was only about 10 sec.)
This SD card is two times faster than buffer, so where is the problem?
   

On another:

Why during recording 1270x720 image is cropped? Theres only way to record with that res.?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 08, 2015, 03:27:02 PM
Run benchmark in photo mode and use CrystalDiskMark/ATTO to verify results. If results are within expection (write rate in cam about 40 MByte/s) retry and make sure to turn Global Draw off.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: PanzerMamba on February 08, 2015, 04:11:02 PM
I can't run benchmark...

Camera won't start with SD card with ml alpha2. Few hours earlier everything was good, i turned off the camera, and put SD in the card reader for copy ml raw dng files. When I back SD to camera it won't- not only ML, but the whole camera. Something was crashed with ML or bootflag?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 08, 2015, 04:21:50 PM
Copy AUTOEXEC.BIN + ML directory to card and try again.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: PanzerMamba on February 08, 2015, 05:36:56 PM
Ok, after substitution ml + autoexec, camera has started. SD card seems to be ok (saving now lower than 41MB/s)

But after 90 seconds of  recording raw dng I try to stop and save it, but it caused recording crashed again, with information "saving error, nothing saved" or something like that.

In 1600x900 achieved only 10 sec of material.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 08, 2015, 05:45:36 PM
Which data rate was calculated by ML for this particular 90 seconds recording session? Where there any files written and how big are those? Any space left on card?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: PanzerMamba on February 08, 2015, 11:41:14 PM
Files "stuck" in the sd- I couldn't move, remove, copy any of ml raw files. Second attempt after formating SD, and reinstaling ml alpha2...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: larismanis on February 09, 2015, 08:19:41 PM
Hi guys,
sorry i am new with ML.
why  i don't have RAW shooting menu and FPS setting menu in ML.. can somebody help me?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: kubodhi on February 10, 2015, 12:56:28 AM
Quote from: larismanis on February 09, 2015, 08:19:41 PM
Hi guys,
sorry i am new with ML.
why  i don't have RAW shooting menu and FPS setting menu in ML.. can somebody help me?
You'll need to enable the raw_rec module to get RAW recording, and FPS override isn't yet available in the current alpha.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: ahmadkhmeesali on February 10, 2015, 09:30:28 AM
guy i need your help, i tried everything i could find any website, could help me please if someone had the same problem, HELP ME, i did everything i also bought a SanDisk class 10 94MB/s for the ML, nothing came out, my firmware is 1.1.1, and still could not install

HELP.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: bsauce42 on February 10, 2015, 09:32:36 AM
Read the first post
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 10, 2015, 09:33:22 AM
Quote from: ahmadkhmeesali on February 10, 2015, 09:30:28 AM
guy i need your help, i tried everything i could find any website, could help me please if someone had the same problem, HELP ME, i did everything i also bought a SanDisk class 10 94MB/s for the ML, nothing came out, my firmware is 1.1.1, and still could not install

HELP.

you may have gotten an early version of 70D like some of us do including myself...

All we can do is patiently wait for them to sort out the bug for us.

That's the least we can do atm.

Which is nice, actually!

8)

Thanks @nikfreak & everyone else on board...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: ahmadkhmeesali on February 10, 2015, 09:40:13 AM
There was some info, apparently the main developer of the port did not have time to develop, but in December will be accepted for active work.

https://pp.vk.me/c625516/v625516897/2013/7WZOvrseiww.jpg


So we have to wait till December  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: ahmadkhmeesali on February 10, 2015, 09:44:35 AM
(https://pp.vk.me/c625516/v625516897/2013/7WZOvrseiww.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: bsauce42 on February 10, 2015, 09:44:53 AM
Old post
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: ahmadkhmeesali on February 10, 2015, 09:56:17 AM
ohh, what a relieve, thank u

cant wait........

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: zahrten on February 11, 2015, 12:22:57 AM
1   Overlays
   -Zebras: __NOT OK (1/4 the screen not showing the zebras)
   -Focus Peak: _OK___
   -MagicZoom: __OK__
   -Cropmarks: __OK__
   -Ghost Image: __NOT OK (ghost image flicker)__
   -Spotmeter: __OK__
   -False Color: __NOT OK (Screen flicker, but otherwise work)__
   -Histogram: __OK__
   -Waveform: __OK__
   -Vectorscope: _OK___
2  Movie
   -BitRate: __OK__
   -REC Key: __OK__
   -Gradual Exposure: ____
   -FPS Override: Not availbale with Alpha0
   -HDR Video: ____
   -Vignetting: __OK (but very poor quality)__
   -Image Finetuning: ____
   -Movie Tweaks: __OK__
3   Shoot
   -Intervalometer: __OK__
   -Motion Detect: __NOT OK (could not get any of the modes working)__
   -Shoot Preferences: ____
4   Included Modules
   - Raw_rec: __OK (raw stable at 720p on sandisk extreme 45MB)__
   - ettr: ____
   - autoexpo: __OK (hard to say but it looked great)__
5   Other issues:
   The camera gets very hot very fast. 75C  within 15 min
     Focal lenth not showing correct
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: nikfreak on February 11, 2015, 12:52:17 AM
FYI: I am going to release a new Alpha today for testing. Again only for those cams which were already been able to run the previous builds.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: saeed2vfx on February 11, 2015, 09:37:57 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on February 11, 2015, 12:52:17 AM
FYI: I am going to release a new Alpha today for testing. Again only for those cams which were already been able to run the previous builds.

:'(
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: X-STATE on February 11, 2015, 10:54:21 AM
hey there
video recording RAW begins with 5 second delay after pressing the record button.
It is normal?
on the other models the same situation?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Abe on February 11, 2015, 11:07:17 AM
Quote from: X-STATE on February 11, 2015, 10:54:21 AM
hey there
video recording RAW begins with 5 second delay after pressing the record button.
It is normal?
on the other models the same situation?

Yes, same situation, but not a big deal.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 11, 2015, 01:13:56 PM
I updated the first post and also added Alpha3 download link.
Alpha3 still has property request changes set to disabled. Be sure to check the changelog.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Filip on February 11, 2015, 01:50:36 PM
Hey everyone!

First of all I wanted to thank nikfreak for the great job he is and has been doing on the ML version for 70D - much appreciated!!!

I have an issue with the intervalometer - it does not seem to work on Manual mode for some reason. It counts down to 0 but does not take any pictures. I works perfectly fine in Av/Auto/Tv but not in M.

Is this a known issue and/or has anyone else experienced the same problem?

I will do my best to post a list of all the tested features as soon as I have some time to spare.

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: PanzerMamba on February 11, 2015, 04:52:33 PM
How to update correctly foram Aplha2 to Alpha3?

Do I have to update firmware again? Or only replace files form A2 by Aplha3?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: walter_schulz on February 11, 2015, 04:55:24 PM
Delete AUTOEXEC.BIN and ML directory and copy Alpha 2 contents to card.

Installing ML doesn't replace/update firmware. Read FAQ.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: zahrten on February 11, 2015, 06:15:59 PM
alpha 3
1   Overlays
-Zebras: __OK__
-Focus Peak: __OK__
-MagicZoom: __OK ___

2   Movie
-BitRate: __OK__
-FPS Override: __OK__

3   Shoot
-Intervalometer: __OK__
-Motion Detect: __NOT OK__ (Expo change did work, frame diff did not, steady hands would freeze the camera if no motion is detected,(had to turn off/on). Is repeatable.

4   Included Modules
- Raw_rec: __OK__stable at 1344X756_with SanDisk extreme 45 MB/s
- autoexpo: __OK__ (think it works but not sure ☺)

5   Other issues:
_Randomly gets kicked out of ML menu still present
_Still gets very hot. Hit 79C during test
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: hubie on February 11, 2015, 07:35:05 PM
Thank you very much for your efforts to bring ML to the 70D. Just ordered the camera and looking forward on using ML soon!
But first I will get myself used to it with the standard interface ;D. Just registered to appreciate it and I will keep myself updated with the problems/feedback here!
Just for the switch to ML: Read about problems with "older" versions of the 70D. How can I roughly check what age my 70D has? (in case it has been stored at the reseller for quite some time)

Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: mongonuel on February 11, 2015, 07:35:36 PM
Hello, it's normal to achieve 7s of recording on 1600x900 and 37s at 1280x720 in RAW?  (im using a 64G SDXC UHS-1 Lexar Professional 600x), great job nikfreak!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: AhMeD on February 11, 2015, 08:09:42 PM
First of all

BIG thanks to nikfreak for making this dream comes true also big thanks to a1ex for making it easy to get to this awesome achievement.

I have two things that accrued to me when i tried both Alpha2 and 3
  1- Temperature rises quickly and reaches 71°  :o

  2- Battery drain too fast

And still checking on other things

Thanks again @nikfreak & a1ex

Cheers 8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 11, 2015, 08:19:03 PM
Ok Walter also wrote it but I repeat it again in hope someone of you can contribute and provide some detailed report regarding the temps. All you need to do is to follow this link:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9673.msg93158

Just a quote from above linked thread:
Quoteespecially because exiftool tells me, this 80°C are in reality only 60°C.  :)

Provide the real Exif temperatures and additionally the values shown by ML as instructed in link above. Afterwards we will try to update the build to show the real values...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: pa0los on February 11, 2015, 08:52:55 PM
I tried the FPS override with Alpha3.
Couldn't get this to work with FPS higher than 25 - real FPS was always showing 25.0
Seems to be working only when reducing FPS value.
Is this normal?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: granan13 on February 11, 2015, 08:56:19 PM
Does bitrate work with someone ?

We can indeed modify the value and use the "up to 3.0x mode", but it doesn't seem to change anything :

- recorded two 5sec clips of the same scene, one with 1.0x and 3.0x, and they're the same size
- when you activate the bitrate info on liveview it shows the same values for 1.0 and 3.0.

Once more thanks a lot for this version
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 11, 2015, 08:58:54 PM
First page, first post. Section "What's not working"
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: PanzerMamba on February 11, 2015, 09:30:41 PM
Hi,

After short raw session, and trying resolutions from 1260x720 to highest possible camera showed: Error 002 Not access to the card.

First try recorded only few seconds in 1260x720 then recording stoped. I tried 1600x900 but aftes 1 sec recording stoped, showed "nothing saved" and "maybe sd is full". But its 28GB free space on kingston 32GB u3 80MB/s (writing).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 11, 2015, 09:53:16 PM
Panzermamba you are the only one encountering such errors until now. Reading through your last posts it seems there's something wrong with your card. Reformat it  and afterwards do a benchmark test in debug menu and post the results. You should be able to reach at least ~35-40MB/s. That#s what the benchmark should print out if you run it.
if you can't reach those values your card may be faulty or you may even got a faked one...


@hubie:
QuoteHow can I roughly check what age my 70D has? (in case it has been stored at the reseller for quite some time)
Simpy flash the included firmware according to install instructions on 1st post to find out what revision you got. If you don't succeed simply send it back...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 11, 2015, 09:59:21 PM
@PanzerMamba: Give h2testw a try, too. It would help to determine your card's actual storage capacity.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on February 12, 2015, 01:33:03 AM
Hubie

According to the reports so far if your serial number is 6871947635 or less, the alpha build wont load.
If your serial number is higher it should load.  That's what the reported trend has been.
My best suggestion is take a ML loaded SD card with and verify in the store before you purchase,
else you will be exploring H264 (which is still rather decent on the 70D).




Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: skanter on February 12, 2015, 03:54:43 AM
My serial # is 022021000473

No good?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: TKF Productions on February 12, 2015, 04:52:42 AM
I have a question.  I did all the steps until downloading the EOSCARD Utility.  It all worked perfectly.  I only have Macs in my house.  I downloaded MacBoot from here: http://www.zenoshrdlu.com/macboot/macboot.html.  However, I'm not sure what to do from there.  I chose my SD card and then clicked Make CANON - Scriptable.  It didn't work and suggested I click "debug on".  I did and it is saying:

dd: /dev/disk7s1: Permission denied'
   return code was 1
Command 'diskutil mountDisk disk7' = 'Volume(s) mounted successfully'
   return code was 0

and below it says:

Making card bootable failed - retry with debug on for more information

Do I need a certain card? I am using a Sony 32GB card that writes at 40.  Can someone help with this MacBoot step? I am so close!!!  Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: TKF Productions on February 12, 2015, 05:10:03 AM
Sorry, please disregard my post above.  I got MacBoot to work and ML is working properly so far.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: dussan007 on February 12, 2015, 07:00:34 AM
Quote from: TKF Productions on February 12, 2015, 05:10:03 AM
Sorry, please disregard my post above.  I got MacBoot to work and ML is working properly so far.  Thanks.

Hey! could you explain what you did to make it work? I'm getting the exact same error.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 12, 2015, 07:08:54 AM
Sounds like you have to give 'sudo' permission via Terminal.

I've encountered this issue once before and can be resolved!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: TKF Productions on February 12, 2015, 07:33:56 AM
Quote from: dussan007 on February 12, 2015, 07:00:34 AM
Hey! could you explain what you did to make it work? I'm getting the exact same error.

Thanks!

Well for me it was just that I did things out of order - probably same for you.  Watch this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN8LV15_cEA and follow all the steps closely, particularly around 2:50 as that is what tripped me up.  Ended up just deleting all the prior downloads and then re-downloading it and doing it in this exact order.  It worked.  Also I was using Canon - Scriptable but you need to use DSLR - Bootable.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: TKF Productions on February 12, 2015, 07:40:15 AM
I will come back with a fuller report on what is working/not working later in the week, but for now almost everything is working great - finally have peaking, zebras and waveform on my 70D, not to mention internal intervalometer and other really innovative things (like a neat picture overlay) and certainly not to mention RAW capability.  I can only get 720p at 23.97 on my SD, but I will buy a new faster SD tomorrow and get it as high as I can.

A couple things I have noticed so far is that I'm not seeing how to get mlv_play in order to playback the raw clips.  Also, for some reason I'm not seeing the audio levels in movie mode.

But this is amazing and I am having so much fun with it.  It can actually compete for my love again with my newer a7s.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: dussan007 on February 12, 2015, 07:52:35 AM
Quote from: TKF Productions on February 12, 2015, 07:33:56 AM
Well for me it was just that I did things out of order - probably same for you.  Watch this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN8LV15_cEA and follow all the steps closely, particularly around 2:50 as that is what tripped me up.  Ended up just deleting all the prior downloads and then re-downloading it and doing it in this exact order.  It worked.  Also I was using Canon - Scriptable but you need to use DSLR - Bootable.

Thank you very much! working great now :)
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 12, 2015, 08:11:17 AM
@TKF Productions: When recording in MLV and want Audio -- you need to go to Audio section within ML menu and scroll down to turn on MLV sound.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: andrewcrane on February 12, 2015, 08:16:13 AM
I've heard that the 70D can't internally write fast enough onto cards, regardless of the cards write speed, for continuous 1080 RAW. Would an external recorder, such as the Atomos Ninja Star, be a solution to this? Or are these devices only able to record ProRes?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 12, 2015, 09:07:32 AM
Guys I really urge you to have a look at the source code to see what's going on. To clear some things up:

Alpha builds have property request changes disabled as stated in first post. Therefore MLV recording is not available. Same for dot-tune, fullres-silent-pics.
Raw recording module works as it doesn't require property request changes. But that's not MLV.
The device tree has a "features" file. Look in there and you will see that audio features and a bunch of other stuff are disabled....
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: robert0 on February 12, 2015, 11:49:28 AM
Hi guys. I'm new here, so first THANK YOU to a1ex, nikfreak, nanomad and all others who participate in develop ML.
Nikfreak asked us for a table with temperatures displayed by ML and those stored in CR2. So here it is:
24 27
26 28
26 30
27 31
27 32
34 33
33 33
34 34
35 34
37 35
38 36
38 37
40 38
40 39
48 39
48 39
48 40
50 41
50 41
50 42
53 43
53 44
60 44
60 45
60 44
63 46
65 48
65 48
65 48
67 49
67 49
67 49
72 51
71 51
71 52
71 52
75 52
77 53
80 52
81 57
88 58
87 59
89 60
89 61

first column is readout from ML overlay, second is pulled from CR2 by exiftool.
Camera was in LiveView mode and time difference between first and last pics is 30 minutes.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 12, 2015, 12:07:41 PM
Hi robert0,

welcome and thank you for taking the time to provide the values.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: walter_schulz on February 12, 2015, 12:17:06 PM
If able provide values up to 60. If higher: Better.
Larger temperature range will give a more accurate data set.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: robert0 on February 12, 2015, 02:14:32 PM
OK, I made aditional read up. Up to 81°C by ML. It wan't go much higher (24°C amb. here) and I wan't go further too, since camera is 2 month old....  ;)
Original reply was updated with new numbers.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: walter_schulz on February 12, 2015, 02:18:30 PM
A warm welcome, robert0! ;-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Mallowsm on February 12, 2015, 02:31:41 PM
Hi, Congrats on the ML for the 70d been waiting for this a long time since i got mine, it works a treat. Ive been through the user guide as this is my first canon dslr so my first go at using magic lantern. How do you shoot raw video from the ML menu. Ive tried it all and im still recording H264.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: robert0 on February 12, 2015, 02:58:56 PM
Thank you wlater_shulz, warm to the letter  :)
Now maybe i will look like a nit-picker, but still: some apertures on ML overlay are slightly off:
5,0 4,9
6,3 6,4
7,1 7,0
9,0 9,1
10 9,9
13 12
20 19
29 28

first column is what shows LCD panel, and second ML overlay. These are just wrong values.
I tried this on Tamron AF 17-50 2.8 non VC and Canon 17-85 IS USM. Wrong values was same on both lenses.

And one question: what is -0.5° value on appended screenshot (top-left corner):
(http://i61.tinypic.com/oh0g0k.png)
When I turn on camera, this value it's not there, just time. But after a while it pop's out. Values what I noticed was =0.0° (green type, others was white), -0.5°, -1.0°, -2.0°
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: PanzerMamba on February 12, 2015, 03:08:02 PM
Ok, here is a test report from H2testw v1.4

Warning: Only 30591 of 30592 MByte tested.
Test finished without errors.
You can now delete the test files *.h2w or verify them again.
Writing speed: 62.6 MByte/s
Reading speed: 63.1 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4

Maybe problem is in file system (fat32, nfts, exfat) on SD or
allocation unit size (16KB, 32KB, 64KB?)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: TKF Productions on February 12, 2015, 03:14:58 PM
Quote from: Mallowsm on February 12, 2015, 02:31:41 PM
Hi, Congrats on the ML for the 70d been waiting for this a long time since i got mine, it works a treat. Ive been through the user guide as this is my first canon dslr so my first go at using magic lantern. How do you shoot raw video from the ML menu. Ive tried it all and im still recording H264.

Have you installed the RAW module?  Once you do that, then you have to actually go in the video menu and turn on RAW and set the resolution.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: TKF Productions on February 12, 2015, 03:21:12 PM
Quote from: robert0 on February 12, 2015, 02:58:56 PM
Hi guys. I'm new here, so first THANK YOU to a1ex, nikfreak, nanomad and all others who participate in develop ML.

Absolutely. Thank you to all those who develop Magic Lantern, including a1ex, nikfreak, nanomad, the fact that all this fantastic software is free is just amazing.  Thanks for all your hard work on this.  You guys are the best!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Mallowsm on February 12, 2015, 03:34:18 PM
How do i install the raw module? Again sorry if its staring me in the face
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: TKF Productions on February 12, 2015, 04:33:38 PM
Quote from: Mallowsm on February 12, 2015, 03:34:18 PM
How do i install the raw module? Again sorry if its staring me in the face

Scroll over to the Modules list in the ML menu (think it's like third from the right) and click on the one that says raw.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: walter_schulz on February 12, 2015, 04:36:20 PM
Quote from: PanzerMamba on February 12, 2015, 03:08:02 PM
Maybe problem is in file system (fat32, nfts, exfat) on SD or
allocation unit size (16KB, 32KB, 64KB?)

NTFS won't run at all inside 70D. The cam will ask you to format it. Cards with 30/32 GByte will be formatted with FAT32 by the cam. I never heard of block size errors with Canon cams.
Alas, there has to be a cause for this.

Format the card using your cardreader. Insert in cam and format again. Back into cardreader again and run EOScard to make card bootable. Delete ML directory and Autoexec.bin (if any) and copy extracted alpha contents to card. Insert card into cam and startup. Results?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: dmilligan on February 12, 2015, 10:21:34 PM
Quote from: robert0 on February 12, 2015, 02:58:56 PM
These are just wrong values.
If you want to get picky, it's actually the Canon values that are wrong. The camera uses 1/8 stop increments internally, so 1/3 stop increments are actually approximated to the nearest 1/8 stop. So if you calculate based on the true aperture in 1/8 stop increments (which ML does), you will get the values you are seeing.

f-number = sqrt(2^AV)
ML                                   |  Canon
sqrt(2^(5 + 3/8)) = 6.44  |  sqrt(2^(5 + 1/3)) = 6.349
sqrt(2^(5 + 5/8)) = 7.03  |  sqrt(2^(5 + 2/3)) = 7.12
sqrt(2^(6 + 3/8)) = 9.11  |  sqrt(2^(6 + 1/3)) = 8.97
and so forth...

The same goes for shutter speed. So, if you don't believe me that Canon is lying to you, then set your camera on 30 second exposure and time it with a stop watch.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: mattdutiel on February 12, 2015, 11:21:58 PM
First and foremost, thank you so very much for all the hard work everyone involved has put in!

I have downloaded and successfully installed Alpha3 and will do a full report later on what does/doesn't work...

But while reading though this whole forum, I am left wondering the same thing as andrewcrane...

QuoteI've heard that the 70D can't internally write fast enough onto cards, regardless of the cards write speed, for continuous 1080 RAW. Would an external recorder, such as the Atomos Ninja Star, be a solution to this? Or are these devices only able to record ProRes?

It appeared that people seem to say that the card writer speed is not fast enough... is this true? if so could someone explain how older cameras would be able to output at the correct write speeds and not a camera that is seemingly newer? (i am just not sure i understand the process behind writing raw v. compressed and how fast the write speed needs to be...)

any info or a point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 12, 2015, 11:30:54 PM
Write speed needed in RAW/MLV:
Vertical pixel * horizontal pixel * bit depth * frame rate / 8 -> Byte/s

Bit depth for Canon RAW is 14 bit. Division by 8 to get bytes instead of bits.

Example
1280 * 720 * 14 * 24 / 8 -> 38707200 Byte/s -> 36.9 MByte/s
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: mattdutiel on February 13, 2015, 01:29:45 AM
thank you Walter Schulz, that definitely helped.

QuoteWrite speed needed in RAW/MLV:
Vertical pixel * horizontal pixel * bit depth * frame rate / 8 -> Byte/s

Bit depth for Canon RAW is 14 bit. Division by 8 to get bytes instead of bits.

Example
1280 * 720 * 14 * 24 / 8 -> 38707200 Byte/s -> 36.9 MByte/s

So the card write speeds seem to be just above 40MByte/s... (based on things that I have seen other people posting in this form from benchmark tests...)

so then there is no way that full 1920x1080 RAW/MLV will be possible (based on hardware limitations) on the 70d?

if so thats a bummer, but I was really the most excited about audio features that will come with a later release...

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: pa0los on February 13, 2015, 09:24:48 AM
I don't believe anyone answered my question.
Is this to be expected that we can't crank up the FPS?
I tried it only with H264 - maybe it applies only for RAW?

Quote from: pa0los on February 11, 2015, 08:52:55 PM
I tried the FPS override with Alpha3.
Couldn't get this to work with FPS higher than 25 - real FPS was always showing 25.0
Seems to be working only when reducing FPS value.
Is this normal?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 13, 2015, 10:01:25 AM
paolos read 1st post. it's noted in changelog.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Filip on February 13, 2015, 01:58:38 PM
Sorry about the repeat question but is it normal for the intervalometer to not be working in M mode?

If not can you let me know if there is a specific way for me to share more information about the issue (sorry I'm pretty new to ML).

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: robert0 on February 13, 2015, 02:46:37 PM
Quote from: dmilligan on February 12, 2015, 10:21:34 PM
If you want to get picky, it's actually the Canon values that are wrong...

OK, thank you for explanation. It's not a big deal. I can live with that.
BTW 30s exposure took 32s  :o

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: FireM on February 13, 2015, 03:45:07 PM
ok, after i tested it some days, i found a Problem with starting Magic Lantern.

If i turn the 70D on, it happens, that sometimes Magic Lantern doesn't react und doesn't started.
I have to turn it 1-5 times on and off to get it work. Mostly it happens, if i turn the camera in Movie Mode on,
but sometimes it also happens after waking up from standby.

Haven´t saw a similar problem until now, am i the only one? Or is this a know bug ?

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 13, 2015, 04:05:04 PM
FireM I never encountered your problems and I am switching on / off cam a dozen of times while testing.
Try to reproduce it and note down when it exactly happens.
It might be that your cam crashes or the display gets powered off but the cam is still active? Any crash logs on your sdcard? Next time it happens try also to remove battery and retry. Maybe also reformat your card and start from scratch to see if it happens again...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Rico2007 on February 13, 2015, 05:25:32 PM
I have the serial number 5302200xxxx.

ML nuisance not install on my 70d, why ???
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Abe on February 13, 2015, 07:10:57 PM
Also did a temperature tests.
A 34 min time frame, 1 shot per minute.

17 21
28 27
29 29
36 30
39 31
39 32
41 33
41 34
46 35
51 36
51 37
51 38
51 38
56 40
56 41
56 42
58 42
58 43
58 44
63 44
63 45
62 45
67 46
67 46
67 46
67 47
67 47
69 48
74 49
74 49
74 49
74 50
74 50
76 50
76 50


Did not insist on higher temperatures, the back of the camera was getting warm.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: FireM on February 13, 2015, 07:30:29 PM
ok nikfreak, i will test some things, and wrote my resoluts down
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on February 13, 2015, 08:40:46 PM
Quote from: Rico2007 on February 13, 2015, 05:25:32 PM
I have the serial number 5302200xxxx.

ML nuisance not install on my 70d, why ???

Please read.....
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg140034#msg140034
Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: X-STATE on February 14, 2015, 05:42:12 PM
who knows?
how to deal with hot pixels when shooting video RAW?

OK, I think I have this problem
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5614.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: slimbot on February 15, 2015, 12:33:36 AM
Great job on the 70d ML alpha 3 so far! When I was testing the new version Alpha3, I could not dial my exposure compensation on the scroll wheel on the back of my camera to increase or decrease the exposure values in A Mode.
Anyone else had that problem? on my 1980's lcd screen, it says L. I guess it's locked? I never had this problem until I installed the Alpha 3. Is there a way to unlock it?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: alexoki on February 15, 2015, 11:12:31 AM
Apologies if this has been stated elsewhere but I cant seem to find a definitive answer. What is the maximum recording resolution in 25p in 16.9 aspect ratio (or close to 16.9) and how many seconds continuous recording.
Also anymore raw vid samples from the 70d especially showing skintones?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Abe on February 15, 2015, 11:16:47 AM
Quote from: alexoki on February 15, 2015, 11:12:31 AM
Apologies if this has been stated elsewhere but I cant seem to find a definitive answer. What is the maximum recording resolution in 25p in 16.9 aspect ratio (or close to 16.9) and how many seconds continuous recording.

Do a search on the forums, there are plenty of threads for these questions.
The speed should be the same as the 6D.
For example have a look at this post: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6215.msg136347#msg136347 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6215.msg136347#msg136347)
720p should be Ok (provided your SD-Card allows to write at 40mb or more)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: FireM on February 16, 2015, 12:59:57 PM
Here the results after test some thinks:

I can reproduce the error after change from M to AV Mode, but the 70D have to be in Movie Mode, i didn't not remember that this happened in photo mode too. In Movie Mode it happened  every time.

60% percent of my tests it also occurred after change the Raw Resolution and Ratio from 720p to 1824x776. But Sometimes everything is ok, i don't know why? Once, i get an error from ML, but it was to short to read it. Yesterday i new install ML and until now, Magic Lantern only once had problems with starting up. After 3 times restarting the camera it never happens again.

hope it helps a bit. When i should check some thinks just tell me, so i give my best to help.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: crirus on February 16, 2015, 03:55:49 PM
Hello

thanks for great work, nikfreak and the team working on this should have got the donation nanomad received.

I have a question: will be possible to keep the screen on while plugging in USB or HDMI?

I know DSLR Controller did this fine, is it possible to have the touch screen on for HDMI monitor too?

Thank you.
Cristian
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on February 16, 2015, 08:02:35 PM
Plugging in to USB, keeps LCD screen display.  That is what DLSR controller app does.
Plugging into HDMI LCD goes off.  DSLR controller app does not use HDMI.
Turn Wi-Fi on, and movie mode is disabled.  DSLR controller app does not use Canon wifi.
This is all Canon s/w not magic lantern.

Perhaps wifi via usb adapter/router, I recall that TP-Link is basically a router on the usb port.
DSLR controller has its variant of the same, with some kind of stick on the usb. 
What ever you use, ensure your usb wifi device has power, because the Canon usb provides no power.

ML with a 3X loupe provides great functionality, as it enlarges ML on the LCD screen, and its more than enough to check focus.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: TomJ on February 18, 2015, 05:40:55 PM
Another overheat shutdown. Running vid, manual, HD. After about 15mins up-time. With a non-ML card, no overheats. I understand this is a known issue, just FYI with latest.

Just totally jazzed to have ML, I really never thought it would happen while I had the 70D, that I'd be onto another body before it was alpha even. Too cool to have it at all!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: betonven on February 19, 2015, 08:02:36 AM
Hello guys!

Thanks for doing these awesome things for us newbies to play with. I have a (maybe stupid) question. I had ML in my T3i Rebel, mainly becuase I wanted to use the HDR bracketing tool (I need to take as many pictures as possible with variable exposures in order to merge to hdr manually).

Now that I'm also using a 70D, I installed the alpha 3, but I cannot locate this option. Is it missing, or I am the one missing something?  :o

Thanks in advance (and really, please don't judge me, I'm as a newbie as it gets..!) :'(
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: walter_schulz on February 19, 2015, 08:07:40 AM
Shoot tab -> Advanced bracket
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: betonven on February 19, 2015, 08:13:18 AM
That's where I was looking, but I only have three options: Intervalometer, Motion detect and Shoot preferences.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Abe on February 19, 2015, 12:47:59 PM
Quote from: betonven on February 19, 2015, 08:13:18 AM
That's where I was looking, but I only have three options: Intervalometer, Motion detect and Shoot preferences.

Some functions are not yet present/enabled that might explain why you don't have the bracketing.
According to the Wiki, this option should be in the same menu as the Intervallometer.
Probably will have to wait for now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: betonven on February 19, 2015, 06:15:14 PM
I guess that should be the case, I'm just confused as I don't see that in the "not working" list in the first page. If somebody knows that for sure, please share!  :D

Also, I know I'm running off-topic, but if anybody could redirect me to a link about how to write your own script to do what HDR bracketing would do (program a series of specific exposures in terms of shutter speed variations that would be triggered with one press of the shoot button), I would totally appreciate the help. Thanks in advance!  8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: betonven on February 19, 2015, 08:40:11 PM
The picoC scripts operation is also not included in this version?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: kubodhi on February 22, 2015, 05:52:09 AM
Girlfriend just picked up a SL1 and I saw that nikfreak had replied on that forum with interest in possibly working on that port after the 70D.  Super happy that there's been progress here on the 70D.  Is there anything specifically that the community can help with as far as current roadblocks, data collection needs, etc?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Mr.Click on February 23, 2015, 07:21:44 AM
Is there a posibility to activate AF Field Expansion and Spot AF with ML? This are 7D Features, which I hope, are may be only not activated by Original Firmware from Canon.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: bben83 on February 24, 2015, 10:31:25 PM
Tank you so much for your job !

Overlays
-Zebras: ____Not tested
-Focus Peak: ____Not tested
-MagicZoom: ____Not tested
- ....
Movie
-BitRate: ____Not tested
-FPS Override: ____ Not tested
-.....
Shoot
-Intervalometer: ____OK
-Motion Detect: ____not OK (Only works in exposition detection mode, Frame difference is not OK)
-.....
Included Modules
- Raw_rec: ____Not tested
- autoexpo: ____Not tested
- ....
Other issues:
_______________________________________
....
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: craiggbrown on February 24, 2015, 11:02:18 PM
Hello, I just bought a 70D and I followed the instructions to install ML to the tee and it did not work for me. I don't get the boot-disk displayed on screen. Is there any other way to get this to work? I guess I have unqualified cam. Any idea of what people like me can do?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: UWP on February 25, 2015, 12:42:36 AM
Hi there!

I had a 650D for some years now, but the image-counter crossed the 200k line so I was thinking about a new cam. Before my decision I read about 70D development was starting so I bought a 70D. And yes: it works! Great job, it was even easier than the start procedure on the 650D! I know it's an alpha release. But maybe there's time for wishes? What I mostly do is bracketing & dual ISO. I couldn't find both of'em in the February Alpha 3 release, so I guess, it's in the pipe on a later date? If it gets faster, I'm willing to test it for bug fixing! Of course the other stuff is nice too, but I normally shoot HDR pics, MagicLantern's got specific stuff for all of us. Or are the bracketing menus hidden somewhere? And the dual ISO image stuff? At least I couldn't find it...

Anyway: great work, I haven't seen any problems yet while playing around with it! Strange: the module for integrated picture view in the filemanager cannot handle jpegs? When I try to view them, I only get the binary code of the JPEG on the screen. The docs don't mention JPG, only the raw formats. Why? I tought JPEG should be easiest?

I'm really excited what will come! Haha, in some stores they try to convince me to Nikon or Sony. I told them, I'll switch if they got similar features like MagicLantern. Almost every vendor did know about MagicLantern and they haven't been amused. Canon should spent money in this project, it seems they get a alot of "side money" from this here!

Thanx very much for this exciting tool!

UWP
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: vfero on February 25, 2015, 05:12:10 AM
@betonven : I've asked this about advanced bracketing and i had no answer. I guess only time will tell...

Vince
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 25, 2015, 07:55:22 AM
Quote from: craiggbrown on February 24, 2015, 11:02:18 PM
Hello, I just bought a 70D and I followed the instructions to install ML to the tee and it did not work for me. I don't get the boot-disk displayed on screen. Is there any other way to get this to work? I guess I have unqualified cam. Any idea of what people like me can do?

Wait just like some of us do... which is nice!  ;D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: tr3m0bil on February 25, 2015, 07:57:13 AM
Hi,

I'm one of the early adopters of the 70D (septembre 2013) and I'm (not so patientely) waiting to be able to test it. Any date for a compatible version ?

Tr3
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 25, 2015, 08:57:26 AM
Quote from: UWP on February 25, 2015, 12:42:36 AM
....bracketing & dual ISO......so I guess, it's in the pipe on a later date?

Yes, exactly. I did some first tests indoors and posted 'em to the appropriate topic:
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7402.msg140471#msg140471

Quote from: tr3m0bil on February 25, 2015, 07:57:13 AM
I'm one of the early adopters of the 70D (septembre 2013) and I'm (not so patientely) waiting to be able to test it. Any date for a compatible version ?

It's done when it's done. First let's get the one in my hands somewhat stable and afterwards I will do it blindly for the early adopters...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: tr3m0bil on February 25, 2015, 10:36:31 AM
Thanks for your answer. It was just to know if you have a forecast to release it. We are some waiting to be able to provide you valuable feedback.

Thanks for your work
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 25, 2015, 10:41:16 AM
I already spent several hours and prepared to blindly maintain it but there will be no release until I feel we are ready to do so:

https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/src/e0db13d113dbe5f35c10b7b3fe5e659cb6a6cdfa/platform/unmaintained/70D_SLAVE.111/?at=unified-70D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: UWP on February 25, 2015, 10:52:37 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on February 25, 2015, 08:57:26 AM
Yes, exactly. I did some first tests indoors and posted 'em to the appropriate topic:
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7402.msg140471#msg140471


Quite impressive! Is it in your "unmaintained" version? And: only the dual ISO or bracketing too?

Thanx!

UWP
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 25, 2015, 11:03:59 AM
@UWP: read 1st post.

some features need "properties enabled" to work like advanced bracketing, MLV recording, dual iso, dot tune etc...
None of the public alpha builds has them enabled. So some features either don't work or are auto-hidden and you won't be able to see them in ML menu.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: sergey on February 25, 2015, 01:14:49 PM
Good day!
cameras have not yet, so the question :
What is the maximum resolution    in mode
Shoot    -Intervalometer: ____OK       Silent Picture  -- on    ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: UWP on February 25, 2015, 05:27:23 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on February 25, 2015, 11:03:59 AM
@UWP: read 1st post.

some features need "properties enabled" to work like advanced bracketing, MLV recording, dual iso, dot tune etc...
None of the public alpha builds has them enabled. So some features either don't work or are auto-hidden and you won't be able to see them in ML menu.

I read it. And there's absolutely no way to "unhide" them, not even for testing purposes? ;)
Ok, what you wanna say is: it can brick the cam? I'm willing to test it anyway...

Thanx!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on February 25, 2015, 05:48:09 PM
Quote from: UWP on February 25, 2015, 05:27:23 PM
I read it. And there's absolutely no way to "unhide" them, not even for testing purposes? ;)
Ok, what you wanna say is: it can brick the cam? I'm willing to test it anyway...

Thanx!

Hi UWP,

It is best to respect the developer's process and plan.  Please do not push and pressure someone who is doing a great and wonderful thing for our community, and for free.  If you posses the skills, everything you need is out there to brick your camera all on your own.  In the meantime, please show gratitude by being patient and respecting nikfreak's methods.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 25, 2015, 05:55:01 PM
Quote from: UWP on February 25, 2015, 05:27:23 PM
I read it. And there's absolutely no way to "unhide" them, not even for testing purposes? ;)
Ok, what you wanna say is: it can brick the cam? I'm willing to test it anyway...

Imagine standing outside a mine field and telling the sweepers in it to jump to the next patch.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 25, 2015, 07:12:40 PM
Hahaha @Walter Schulz -- best joke of the day!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: UWP on February 25, 2015, 08:31:34 PM
Okok, I got the message, I'll wait...:)

I'm only in a hurry because in 2 weeks I wanted to use bracketing & dual ISO during my holidays. But of course: take your time! I surely know that good software needs time! I can only repeat myself: thank you for this wonderful piece of software!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: muc2810 on February 28, 2015, 12:01:57 AM
Hello everyone,

first of all thank you for your hard work on this port, special thanks to the dev's. I'm new to DSLR-Video-Shooting. I'm just figuring out what ml can do for me, an that's a lot. Thanks.

now the Problem:

Magic Zoom does not work. I can start it with ZoomIn(+), the window apears dosn't matter what size, it even dosn't matter what position, what magnification and what i use for focus confirm. The bars don't get green when justed, the splitcreen dosn't move.

is there a special thing to make it work ? Or is my brain not working.
Best greetz from munich/germany
Muc2810
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Abe on February 28, 2015, 07:30:14 PM
Quote from: muc2810 on February 28, 2015, 12:01:57 AM
Is there a special thing to make it work ? Or is my brain not working.


Got the same thing here. What I do is as long as I can see the "zoomed" image I'm able to tell if it's in focus or not. Yep we don't have the green bars (at least the two of us) but that's ok truth be told. In my case I use a Tamron lens, did not try with a canon lens to know if I have the green bars or not. (will test soon and will post it)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: muc2810 on February 28, 2015, 08:10:12 PM
I'm using the Canon EF-S 18-55mm 1:3.5-5.6 IS STM. It's the Kit-Lens i got with the 70D-Body. I tried in Manual-mode, manual focus.

I see in the box/window if it's focused or not, but no green bars. Using the split-screen i can focus, but the two halfs of the box/window do not "move" to fit each other.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on March 03, 2015, 02:49:13 PM
Updated! See post after this....
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on March 04, 2015, 12:43:35 PM
Quote
After some excessive play with bracketing & dual ISO I encountered no problems at all. Which, for dual ISO, is even better than the 650d version, because I had lots of trouble with dual ISO and 650d (Errors and afterwards no dual ISO, had to remove battery for reset etc.). In the 70d I can switch it on (via RAW) and off several times while shooting in between and it didn't show errors at all. Very, very good! Amazing stuff!

Thanx again, I'll go on testing over the weekend!

Anyone else eager to try the build I prepared (see also my last post)? I don't want to make it available to the public before it has been intensively tested. That said I am not really after specific tests - you should just have enough time to test and try out as much as possible..
Bonus: The build includes dot-tune and full-resolution silent pictures as well as mlv recording, too.
Enough for now...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: RafQue on March 04, 2015, 03:08:36 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on March 04, 2015, 12:43:35 PM
Anyone else eager to try the build I prepared (see also my last post)? I don't want to make it available to the public before it has been intensively tested. That said I am not really after specific tests - you should just have enough time to test and try out as much as possible..
Bonus: The build includes dot-tune and full-resolution silent pictures as well as mlv recording, too.

Hi Nikfreak!

I would love to help out, but it seems I have the wrong firmware on my 70D... I can't get ML installed.
Aren't there any volunteers who have a working build on their 70D over here?!?!

RafQue
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Abe on March 04, 2015, 08:53:25 PM
@nikfreak Ill have some days before me to test if you want. I'm not yet used with dual ISO and bracketing but can have a look at those using the documentation.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on March 04, 2015, 09:09:57 PM
Ok, enough for now. No PMs regarding test builds plz.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: RafQue on March 04, 2015, 11:57:19 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on March 04, 2015, 09:09:57 PM
Ok, enough for now. No PMs regarding test builds plz.

Hehe.. been flooded with enthusiasm Nikfreak?   :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on March 05, 2015, 07:43:14 AM
Yes max number of testers I was searching for has been reached.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on March 05, 2015, 07:33:26 PM
Just found out that "edmac raw slurping" (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10443.0) works on 70D, too. Did any of the previous alpha testers encounter pink frames while raw recording? Remember: I don't use raw related video functions at all on this cam so I can't judge if it's worth putting into next update....
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Chele on March 06, 2015, 06:00:51 AM
I have been following this thread since the beginning.  I am truly impressed by those able to help.  Waiting, eagerly and impatiently, to be able to install ML in my 70D.  Thanks!!!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: kekorr on March 06, 2015, 12:07:41 PM
+1 go! nikfreak thanks for your work
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: rhenderous on March 06, 2015, 08:35:53 PM
Trying to read through all of the posts. Just a quick question, is Magic Lantern ready to be used for the Canon EOS 70D to make short films with or is it still having problems? I saw the Magic Lantern in action and it makes all of the videos shot look like a movie

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Abe on March 06, 2015, 11:30:17 PM
Quote from: rhenderous on March 06, 2015, 08:35:53 PM
Trying to read through all of the posts. Just a quick question, is Magic Lantern ready to be used for the Canon EOS 70D to make short films with or is it still having problems? I saw the Magic Lantern in action and it makes all of the videos shot look like a movie

Thanks!

You can use the current alpha which is quite nice, and the raw_rec module will allow you to shoot some raw clips.
You won't have sound yet, but the video is really cool!
I would not do any professional work out of it at the moment, but some really nice clips can be shot if you know what you're doing.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: muc2810 on March 07, 2015, 08:27:29 AM
unfortunatly sound is half the movie and you can't do everything with an external sound recorder. even the sound of the camera is poor, you may need it for syncronisation. hope it will be invented soon.

once again: thank you so much for your work on this port
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: cluber77 on March 07, 2015, 01:12:21 PM
I'm' sorry if this answered or if my question Or if the answer to my question  is rhetorical, is there any way to get 1080p with 60frames video recording in 70d with this ML at a later time?

thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: grey on March 07, 2015, 01:52:25 PM
Quote from: cluber77 on March 07, 2015, 01:12:21 PM
I'm' sorry if this answered or if my question Or if the answer to my question  is rhetorical, is there any way to get 1080p with 60frames video recording in 70d with this ML at a later time?

thanks

it's impossible. At all.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: granan13 on March 07, 2015, 02:52:10 PM
I wouldn't say impossible; a few years before shooting in RAW with ML was considered as impossible and "Would it be possible to shoot in raw with ML ?" had the same type of categorical response.

It's not possible yet, and no one is trying to achieve it yet, but one day, who knows ? Don't be categorical, the people working on ML are doing an amazing job and I'm sure that in the future they'll achieve things they think impossible right now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Teran0vA on March 07, 2015, 11:01:04 PM
Quote from: granan13 on March 07, 2015, 02:52:10 PM
I wouldn't say impossible; a few years before shooting in RAW with ML was considered as impossible and "Would it be possible to shoot in raw with ML ?" had the same type of categorical response.

It's not possible yet, and no one is trying to achieve it yet, but one day, who knows ? Don't be categorical, the people working on ML are doing an amazing job and I'm sure that in the future they'll achieve things they think impossible right now.

No amount of programing can change hardware limits. Your example is wrong because shooting raw is only using the sensor differently than originally programed, not improving it. It was always capable of doing it, just not programed to do it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: granan13 on March 08, 2015, 12:42:17 AM
I'm surely being too much optimistic, it will probably not happen, but even with hardware limits there could be solutions to get over it, they have not been found yet, and maybe they will never be. Hardware limits can be overridden; no jack output on 60D ? ML team found a solution. Of course this and the 60fps issue are totally different, but the fact is, even if all things considered i agree with your point, I'm just not as categorical about an uncompromising impossibility.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: grey on March 08, 2015, 09:06:58 AM
Quote from: granan13 on March 08, 2015, 12:42:17 AM
I'm surely being too much optimistic, it will probably not happen, but even with hardware limits there could be solutions to get over it, they have not been found yet, and maybe they will never be. Hardware limits can be overridden; no jack output on 60D ? ML team found a solution. Of course this and the 60fps issue are totally different, but the fact is, even if all things considered i agree with your point, I'm just not as categorical about an uncompromising impossibility.

AV output via USB connector always was in all Canon VDSLR. Redirecting audio data to USB connector is matter of programming.

Reading sensor at 1/3 of vertical resolution at more than 30 FPS is impossible. This is hardware limit that can't be overridden.

BTW sensor always outputs RAW data. No matter photo or video. ML just giving you a chance to write this data to memory card.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: jcdu11600 on March 08, 2015, 09:49:24 AM
I'm looking for the magic lantern's parameters in the 70D to rec video with a remote.
I bought a LEXAR 2000x 64Go but i can't rec over 7 sec in raw mode
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 08, 2015, 10:08:23 AM
Waste of money. There is no Canon DSLR supporting UHS-II. 70D SD-card slot supports write rates up to about 40 MByte/s -> around 720p25 in RAW.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 09, 2015, 11:47:29 AM
updated first post. Read changelog before you continue.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: deusex1 on March 09, 2015, 02:13:13 PM
Nikfreak, thanks for the update man, you are the best!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: crirus on March 09, 2015, 03:43:10 PM
Anything related to leaving the screen on while USB/HDMI is pluged in?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: Smarty Pants on March 09, 2015, 10:21:28 PM
1. all versions so far have installed on my 70D without issue
2. brilliant work nikfreak and friends
3. wish people would stop the inane chatter on this thread (18 pages of crap so far)  (eg. walter shulz and co., you buy a fast card so when transferring video to your computer it doesn't take 3 hours but hey you know everything it seems, keep this thread to ML 70D and chat somewhere else please)

Testing RAW 1280x720 , default settings, manual exposure, AF with 50mm f1.8
Both RAW and MLV record, MLV the first time takes a while for the 281Mb file to write and also displays that a static image only uses about 14Mb/s(normally hovers around 38.3)(landscape HD RAW video might be doable? if these are correct values).

Both have the following bug:
Whilst recording press AF-ON to auto-focus, snaps into focus, from this point onwards autofocus will no longer work and ML shutter speed in ML shows: N/A, -214748364
You now also cannot change the shutter speed or aperture on the normal display until you restart the camera(flick to photo and back again) - the liveview exposure simulation still works but lags.

Hope this helps.

Any chance you could enable the Audio menu so we can stop the screen going off when you plug in headphones in the next version?

thanks nik
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 09, 2015, 10:48:44 PM
Quote from: Smarty Pants on March 09, 2015, 10:21:28 PM

Both have the following bug:
Whilst recording press AF-ON to auto-focus, snaps into focus, from this point onwards autofocus will no longer work and ML shutter speed in ML shows: N/A, -214748364
You now also cannot change the shutter speed or aperture on the normal display until you restart the camera(flick to photo and back again) - the liveview exposure simulation still works but lags.

Hope this helps.

Any chance you could enable the Audio menu so we can stop the screen going off when you plug in headphones in the next version?

thanks nik

Did you have that bug in previous versions? I only tested myself touch-af while video recording.
Regarding audio: last time i tried was weeks ago but it was crashing. Ofc I will have a look into it again.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: vfero on March 09, 2015, 11:50:15 PM
Been testing ALPHA04 for advanced bracketing : Really strange noise at each shot. The noise is like another click just after the real one ( sounds like scissors... )

Don't know if it can be dangerous, and don't know if it can help

Here's a video link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ekvB0_NCFF8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ekvB0_NCFF8)

Cheers,
Vfero
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: Smarty Pants on March 10, 2015, 12:24:31 AM
sorry: i don't remember it happening before so i don't remember testing it and i've deleted the test content so can't check now

AF is disabled after the first go during record and won't come back when recording has stopped but,
if you let it go into power save and press start to reactivate you get AF and shutter speed/aperture control back again in liveview (with other weird and strange numbers in ML shutter speed like "..N 12"..5s)
if you then record you only get 1 go at AF again
manually moving to MF makes no difference

re audio: whenever is good for you

i've also noticed in this version that the menu doesn't flicker so much or disappear so quickly, if you keep pressing an arrow it stays most of the time, seems the RAW menu is the least stable and photo mode is the most.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: Glassed on March 10, 2015, 01:26:03 AM
Hello !

Just tryed the Alpha4 , the camera bricked for a moment and threw a "error 80" , had to remove the battery for a few seconds to get it back to life.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: rotaryman on March 10, 2015, 03:00:41 AM
Smarty Pants: I'm having the same shutter speed issue. This didn't appear before in previous builds. Shutter speeds drop to -2.44950 and so on and so forth and are unchangeable. Also still no confirmation on Magic Zoom.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: Joos on March 10, 2015, 04:00:55 AM
thank you very much for your work, use ML a long time, even with the 550d. But do not you think that the version 4 is already quite stable, and you can add support for other versions of canon 70d ? very hard to wait )))
sorry for my english
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 10, 2015, 08:26:25 AM
Quote from: vfero on March 09, 2015, 11:50:15 PM
Been testing ALPHA04 for advanced bracketing : Really strange noise at each shot. The noise is like another click just after the real one ( sounds like scissors... )

Checked the video and updated the first post with a new download link which disables bracketing. Everybody please download that and delete the old one until I can reproduce. Please check the reported AF issues while recording video with this new download.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 01:51:56 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on March 10, 2015, 08:26:25 AM
Checked the video and updated the first post with a new download link which disables bracketing. Everybody please download that and delete the old one until I can reproduce. Please check the reported AF issues while recording video with this new download.

I looked at that video, and nothing wrong with sounds. Tried AB on my 6D and 70D, and sound identically.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 02:00:12 PM
BTW. Nikfreak, i have 6D, EOS M, 500D and 70D. All with ML. If you need any help in comparison of modules on several different cameras, i can help.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 02:08:13 PM
Ha, i got it. for some reason in AB mode drive is set to silent mode, and this produce this "strange" sound. Sitting and trying AB mode. It's work perfect.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 02:09:32 PM
Sorry for my english. I'm study it only in school.  ::)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 02:11:17 PM
On 6D AB also use silent shutter.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 10, 2015, 02:37:28 PM
Hey grey thank you for reporting your findings. As I understood 6D produces same sound by default and you have to turn off silent shooting to get it working?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 03:16:45 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on March 10, 2015, 02:37:28 PM
Hey grey thank you for reporting your findings. As I understood 6D produces same sound by default and you have to turn off silent shooting to get it working?

NO. By default AB turns drive mode to silent, i think it's for less blurring caused by camera shake via shutter actuating. Camera produces this "strange" sound in silent mode, especially in LV. So sound on video is quite normal. I have same sound on 6D. And if you turn drive to Silent, and try to shoor via LV you get same sound. Summary: AB in yesterday Alpha works fine.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 03:19:13 PM
If you look at top display when AB taking pictures, you will see  "S" symbol appear near drive mode. 6d and 70d, no matter.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 03:21:19 PM
My 500D has no Silent drive mode, so it takes AB pictures with "normal" sound, like sound of shooting in LV on normal drive mode of 70D or 6D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Frarike on March 10, 2015, 04:27:30 PM
Do I just swap all the files to change to newer version and update the firmware?

And thanks for the work nikfreak
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 04:37:58 PM
No need to update firmware. Only thing is changing when you "updating" firmware is enabling bootdisk flag in camera.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: vfero on March 10, 2015, 08:08:51 PM
@grey : so this noise is not something dangerous? It would be my day then :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 10:00:12 PM
Quote from: vfero on March 10, 2015, 08:08:51 PM
@grey : so this noise is not something dangerous? It would be my day then :)

No. Nothing to worry.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 10:04:25 PM
Level indicator work only few seconds, then it freeze and enabling or disabling it in ML menu don't work until i restart camera. 

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 10:10:07 PM
AF not work after first record in RAW. No matter RAW or MLV. Only camera restart help to solve this problem. I have same issue on my 6D. So it's not bug of this Alpha release.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 10:30:52 PM
To Nikfreak. Why in silent picture mode resolution is too low (Camera in Photo mode. In Video mode all OK)? Try it on 6D. In both modes resolution identical.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 11, 2015, 07:00:46 AM
The maximum average shutter speed for FRSP is about 1/15th or so...

Either close down the iris or use an ND filter.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 11, 2015, 07:39:52 AM
Quote from: grey on March 10, 2015, 10:10:07 PM
AF not work after first record in RAW. No matter RAW or MLV. Only camera restart help to solve this problem. I have same issue on my 6D. So it's not bug of this Alpha release.

Need to verify myself this evening again. a1ex created a pull request for frsp which I wanna try out first.
I cannot judge if the AF behaviour is to be considered "normal". Sounds like a bug to me if it only exists on 6D / 70D. Can you confirm @grey / @Audionut?

Quote from: grey on March 10, 2015, 10:30:52 PM
To Nikfreak. Why in silent picture mode resolution is too low (Camera in Photo mode. In Video mode all OK)? Try it on 6D. In both modes resolution identical.

Also lemme check that one in the evening.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 11, 2015, 08:36:32 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on March 11, 2015, 07:39:52 AM
Need to verify myself this evening again. a1ex created a pull request for frsp which I wanna try out first.

When i asking about AF issue on 6D, i got an answer that this is about some hacks that disables part of canon LV, and AF too. The only one advice given to me is to use MF. But on 70D we got very good AF. It's very sad if we can't use it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 11, 2015, 08:44:13 AM
Uhhh thanx for clarifying. While also having owned a 6D I never noticed the behaviour due to having almost no personal interest in video recording...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 11, 2015, 08:48:45 AM
I'm afraid there is no clarifying but rather some confusion ...
grey, are you referring to this reply? http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3904.msg139243#msg139243
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 11, 2015, 09:07:29 AM
Yes, Walter. This post, and post on previous page of that topic.  I try to turn off extra hacks in MLV menu, but in this case i record few seconds less, than usual. AF works, but with price of short recording time. It's sad.  :-[ 

About MLV and AF.
If extra hacks on, AF turns on 1 time on first take. After that to activate AF needed to restart camers/ change mode photo/video.
If extra hacks off, AF works like usual, but record time is little less.
If enabled in Canon menu, Servo AF works all the time, no matter on or off extra hacks. But framing box is not dislayed.

AF= AF by button pressing(AF-ON or half shutter)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 11, 2015, 10:16:22 AM
Quote from: grey on March 11, 2015, 09:07:29 AM
If extra hacks off, AF works like usual, but record time is little less.

This should be off by default to avoid confusion.
And @grey please try to stay active on the forum. I will need testers like you.

@All: Even tried out dualiso or dot-tune? Any feedback?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Sky_cleaner on March 11, 2015, 11:45:40 AM
Tried to update firmware several times... No succes :-(    Wait for next alpha.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Mr.Click on March 11, 2015, 01:31:00 PM
Dot Tune works fine & Dual ISO too  :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Makadamia on March 11, 2015, 04:00:47 PM
@Sky_cleaner: This won't help, you have to wait for beta or RTM of ML for 70d - like me. See 1st post.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: X-STATE on March 11, 2015, 04:11:54 PM
whether to run dual ISO in the video mode?
This function works on the 5dm3.
there is a possibility in other models?

dot-tune - works good for my two lenses
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 11, 2015, 04:21:56 PM
Quote from: X-STATE on March 11, 2015, 04:11:54 PM
whether to run dual ISO in the video mode?
This function works on the 5dm3.
there is a possibility in other models?

The only nightly builds *not* having this option are those for 50D and 7D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Abe on March 11, 2015, 08:57:28 PM
I'm having some overexposure issue with Silent pictures at full resolution. It's way over-exposed. Like by 4 stops.
The simple resolution works perfectly though.

The audio/mlv recording worked but not in all the tests.
For some of the clips, I got a valid .wav file that I could use, and for the others, a 1kb wav file and an error on the 70D indicating the audio being skipped.

Don't know if somebody has the same issue?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 12, 2015, 12:52:21 AM
Quote from: Abe on March 11, 2015, 08:57:28 PM
I'm having some overexposure issue with Silent pictures at full resolution. It's way over-exposed. Like by 4 stops.
The simple resolution works perfectly though.

The audio/mlv recording worked but not in all the tests.
For some of the clips, I got a valid .wav file that I could use, and for the others, a 1kb wav file and an error on the 70D indicating the audio being skipped.

Don't know if somebody has the same issue?

In FRSP minimal shutter speed is about 1/15 of sec. No matter if you select faster shutter.  If i'm not right let Walter or Nikfreak correct me.

In build from 10 of march was MLV sound? Or you did not listen to the request from Nikfreak?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 12, 2015, 02:16:54 AM
As previously stated... Fastest shutter speed regarding FRSP is about 1/15th and you can either close down the iris or use ND.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Abe on March 12, 2015, 10:04:21 AM
Quote from: grey on March 12, 2015, 12:52:21 AM
In build from 10 of march was MLV sound? Or you did not listen to the request from Nikfreak?

There is the sound in the latest alpha posted by nikfreak. I'm not quite sure of what you mean?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 12, 2015, 03:28:08 PM
Quote from: Abe on March 12, 2015, 10:04:21 AM
There is the sound in the latest alpha posted by nikfreak. I'm not quite sure of what you mean?

Sorry, i think there is no MLV Sound in last public alpha.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 12, 2015, 04:06:29 PM
To avoid further confusion:

Default modules makefile includes indeed mlv_sound + mlv_rec and mlv_play

I was on a rush and forgot to exclude them in one build I published.
So mlv_sound is inbuilt but not yet supported (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg141945#msg141945)

There's no need to experiment with sound until you see a hint for sound support in the changelogs on 1st page.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Harrison on March 12, 2015, 05:27:01 PM
So I'm new to magic lantern and this will be my first time downloading it to my 70d. If it's an Alpha version does that mean that there are still a lot of issues with the program for my camera and should I wait to download a more complete version. Or is it completely fine? Thanks.
-Canon Lover
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 12, 2015, 06:58:56 PM
Quote from: Harrison on March 12, 2015, 05:27:01 PMIf it's an Alpha version does that mean that there are still a lot of issues with the program for my camera
Yes
Quote from: Harrison on March 12, 2015, 05:27:01 PMand should I wait to download a more complete version.
Depends. Keep in mind: If it breaks, you can keep both pieces.

Quote from: Harrison on March 12, 2015, 05:27:01 PMOr is it completely fine?
Number of bricked cameras until now: Zero. Doesn't mean there is a guarantee it will *not* break your cam. It's alpha, after all.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: donjames150 on March 12, 2015, 07:53:50 PM
Quote from Harrison

"So I'm new to magic lantern and this will be my first time downloading it to my 70d. If it's an Alpha version does that mean that there are still a lot of issues with the program for my camera and should I wait to download a more complete version. Or is it completely fine? Thanks.
-Canon Lover"

I've been running Alpha versions of Magic Lantern for 2 years on 2 different cameras (7D and 650D). They lock up on occaision, both of them. You just have to remember to take out your battery and put it back in, then it will be fine. I am planning on buying a 70D as soon as the HDR video function is working and I would not hesitate to install magic lantern on it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Eli Kaliski on March 13, 2015, 04:07:11 AM
How can I turn off AGC? I'm using a Canon 70d (brand new) and a Røde Videomic.

-Eli
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 13, 2015, 05:08:41 AM
Read cam's manual.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: cluber77 on March 13, 2015, 08:20:56 PM
At what point the alpha become to Official version? Are there certain steps for that?.
And another question, Is it possible to shoot video in slower shutter speed then the camera defaults to get the time lapse style effect in night shooting with this ML?

Thanks. 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 13, 2015, 08:26:57 PM
FPS override -> Read first post
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: deusex1 on March 13, 2015, 08:51:18 PM
cluber77, that is interesting. As we know, when shooting video at 24fps, the minimum shutter speed can go as low as 1/30th. This is the setting without ML. I wonder, could ML bring us a shutter speed of 1/24th ? The difference would be really small, but its just a thought.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: cluber77 on March 13, 2015, 09:48:34 PM
I had Hackd GH2 camera and it was possible only if I was shooting in manual focus mode.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 13, 2015, 10:24:20 PM
Quote from: deusex1 on March 13, 2015, 08:51:18 PM
cluber77, that is interesting. As we know, when shooting video at 24fps, the minimum shutter speed can go as low as 1/30th. This is the setting without ML. I wonder, could ML bring us a shutter speed of 1/24th ? The difference would be really small, but its just a thought.

Expo -> Expo. Override=on -> Set shutter speed. 1/25 of sec is lowest speed.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 14, 2015, 09:20:01 AM
updated first post with a new download link. Try out the new installer. AF-ON button in FRSP works now too....
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: janoschsimon on March 14, 2015, 10:28:57 AM
thx for the update nik :-) tried it on the old no change BUHH :D but i wait no problem keep up the great work :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 14, 2015, 10:52:57 AM
it will only work on cameras which have successfully used the previous builds. Appropriate infos can always be taken from 1st post. But new users now have a hassle-free way to install ML. So feel free to try out and report your findings.

I also want to shout out a special thank you to user "grey" which provided awesome fast and helpful support with private testing last days.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Mr.Click on March 14, 2015, 01:41:53 PM
Thank you for the new Alpha, looks good. But I couldn´t find Dual ISO on this Build, which I´m enjoying on the alpha 4. So I decided to switch back to Alpha 4 back again.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: deusex1 on March 14, 2015, 02:34:03 PM
After I shoot, I remove the memory card and turn off the camera. When I put the memory card again, the camera cannot be turned on. The only way to turn it on is, to remove the battery. Is that behavior normal?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 14, 2015, 02:41:51 PM
First turn off camera, wait until all LED activity stopped (and a little more). Then you may remove card. Doing otherwise may cause your battery to drain.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 14, 2015, 03:44:08 PM
Quote from: Mr.Click on March 14, 2015, 01:41:53 PM
Thank you for the new Alpha, looks good. But I couldn´t find Dual ISO on this Build, which I´m enjoying on the alpha 4. So I decided to switch back to Alpha 4 back again.
Fixed! Just re-download from 1st post and thx for informing. Didn't notice myself.

Quote from: deusex1 on March 14, 2015, 02:34:03 PM
After I shoot, I remove the memory card and turn off the camera.
I recommend  turning off camera and afterwards removing the card.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: deusex1 on March 14, 2015, 05:03:00 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on March 14, 2015, 03:44:08 PM
I recommend  turning off camera and afterwards removing the card.

Alright i tried this:

I shoot, turn off the camera, remove the card, re-insert the card. The result is the same - the camera cannot turn on, without removing the battery first.

Is this behavior normal for 70D, or is it some left-over the installation of ML, maybe corrupted bootflag?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 14, 2015, 05:04:47 PM
Did you wait for LED activity to stop?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: deusex1 on March 14, 2015, 05:48:28 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on March 14, 2015, 05:04:47 PM
Did you wait for LED activity to stop?

Hey that seems to fix the issue, thanks!.
I was too quick to turn on the camera after card insertion. Now I tried to wait 5 sec, then it turned on normally. But as far as I remember, such waiting was not necessary, before I installed ML. Not sure, let someone with a clean 70D try.

Update: the waiting thing worked for the 1st insertion, but at the 2nd insertion it failed. And then the battery drained out in a second.

Can anyone explain, exactly why this battery draining happens?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 14, 2015, 05:58:39 PM
Quote from: deusex1 on March 14, 2015, 05:48:28 PMBut as far as I remember, such waiting was not necessary, before I installed ML.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8286.msg75950#msg75950
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 14, 2015, 06:02:13 PM
LED activity is always there. When turning on and off. Maybe you are rushing too much. Just take some seconds before you remove card.
I put in/out a minimum of 300 times my sdcard from 70D while porting. never encountered your issues.

If you can reproduce it after reading through Walter's posted link then please post detailed steps on how to reproduce...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: deusex1 on March 14, 2015, 06:13:20 PM
I removed Magic Lantern from the firmware menu (waited 30sec to delete the bootflag).
Now the camera behaves the same way I got it from the store.
I dont wait for any LEDs, and no matter how fast I remove and insert the card, the camera turns on without a problem. I can even remove the card without turning off the camera - it still works.

So that means ML needs some time to initialize and if the user moves the card too quickly, the camera bricks and needs battery re-insertion.

I am still wondering, how is it technically possible, to drain a fully charged battery in just seconds? What process could lead to this?

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 14, 2015, 06:27:36 PM
What could have happened: Cam asks battery's controller. Controller lost track and reports empty state.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 14, 2015, 06:28:11 PM
You are confusing the facts. There's no battery drain.
Cam gets simply stuck if you don't wait with removing sdcard. Wait until you can't see any LED activity and only remove sdcard afterwards. Read through walter's posted link plz. But this is offtopic here. On a pc you need to unmount your usb drives too...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 14, 2015, 06:31:22 PM
Most windows user just don't. Linux users learnt it the hard way.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: dmilligan on March 14, 2015, 07:23:35 PM
Given the amount of energy in a camera battery, if it were all released in a matter of seconds, the explosion would certainly be enough to destroy the camera.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Mr.Click on March 14, 2015, 09:45:40 PM
Thank you you Nikfreak for implementing Dual ISO so fast to Alpha 4B
:)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on March 14, 2015, 10:41:42 PM
I am having some issues with the Dual ISO, the main one being this blue/red lens flare looking thing on the right hand side of the frame. Is this normal? Everything else works great!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 14, 2015, 10:51:43 PM
How shall we know? Are we visionary - just by reading text?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on March 14, 2015, 10:54:58 PM
Sorry, I'm using the dual ISO for video. I'm trying to convert it now, cr2hdr.exe is the version from http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7139.0 , as I needed the exiftool.exe and the dcraw.exe. There appears to be an issue in converting the .DNG files as it specifies on that thread, as it isn't converting them.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 14, 2015, 10:56:53 PM
Read the 1st post. especially the first lines where a download link for cr2hdr.exe for 70D is provided.
I never had problems with dualiso photos but didn't try video. Awaiting your feedback

EDIT_ you can find also cr2hdr.exe in Alpha4b zip-file
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on March 14, 2015, 11:38:51 PM
It must just be an issue with the video version, I tried it with a picture and it worked great. It is alternating blue and red flashes every other frame. HDR works well, though. I have tried the latest raw2dng.exe and dropped the dngs onto the cr2hdr as well and both times it flashes red and blue. The cr2hdr says that it cant find the exif (ISO) data from the DNG files.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: gilmoursimon on March 15, 2015, 06:40:02 PM
Hi - does this alpha build for the 70D have 'movie restart'? I have it in the movie tweaks folder on my 5D3 but can't find any reference to it in this 70D magic lantern thread. If anyone's tested it and knows would be great to hear from you. Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 15, 2015, 06:43:45 PM
Do you want to record in H.264?
RAW/MLV will work without this setting since late January.
The only version not supporting seamless RAW/MLV recording >30 minutes is 5D3.123. Yet.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: MattNoir on March 15, 2015, 08:41:35 PM
Hello,
first I want to thank you for awesome work and making our dreams come true.
I finally installed ML too and trying to find my best settings, I will post bugs if I find them.

But I have one question. Is it possible to implement ISO modifying? I foun on net that it is possible to set ISO 25 with ML, but 70D does not have this option...will it be implemented in future releases, or it's not possible with 70D?
Thank you for your answer(s) :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 15, 2015, 08:54:11 PM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8674.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: dmilligan on March 15, 2015, 09:17:57 PM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10111.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nooben on March 16, 2015, 10:02:05 AM
Hi and great work on this. Just a few thoughts on RAW recording, seems the SD controller refuses to go beyond 40 MB/s write speed (even if you have faster cards), meaning full HD recording resolution is limited. Any idea if this is something that can be tweaked/adjusted or just something we have to live with?

Cheers
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 16, 2015, 10:16:41 AM
There are various threads about hardware tweaks. No solution, yet(?). Do a search, please.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: MattNoir on March 16, 2015, 07:21:28 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on March 15, 2015, 08:54:11 PM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8674.0
Quote from: dmilligan on March 15, 2015, 09:17:57 PM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10111.0
I'm sorry, but I didn't find my answers there...
I'm looking for something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQUK0yyvtbI
And the reason? Mainly that when I used my 50/1.4 in bright light, even ISO 100, 1/8000 and RAW wasn't enough, so I had to lower my aperture. Second reason is lowering noise, of course
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 16, 2015, 07:27:57 PM
As answered in first link: Fell free to use ND filters.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ga83 on March 17, 2015, 12:03:37 AM
Hello! I have a canon 70d and i have already installed magic lantern alpha4 . I couldn't find the choice for the movie bitrate change (cbr). Is that choice available? Is there any other way to rec movies with lower bitrate? Thanks...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 17, 2015, 07:33:29 AM
Quote from: ga83 on March 17, 2015, 12:03:37 AM
I couldn't find the choice for the movie bitrate change (cbr). Is that choice available?

It is not available
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ga83 on March 17, 2015, 07:53:39 AM
Thanks nik for the information , i hope that cbr will be added in a later version.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: grey on March 17, 2015, 07:10:21 PM
Quote from: ga83 on March 17, 2015, 07:53:39 AM
Thanks nik for the information , i hope that cbr will be added in a later version.


Why do you need bitrate control? IPB recording is good enought for most videos. If you need better quality why just don't use ALL-I mode? Or I'm don't understand something?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: grey on March 17, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
And if you need to grade ot color correct video why don't use RAW?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ga83 on March 17, 2015, 07:25:31 PM
I am using IPB video quality ,but i would prefer to have bitrate control ,because a need lower bitrates. I am usually recording events which last more than 3 hours , that is the reason for lower bitrates.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ga83 on March 17, 2015, 07:27:18 PM
I have also a canon 600d with magic lantern already installed. In that case i have bitrate control and it is very useful for me.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: grey on March 17, 2015, 07:49:34 PM
On 64 GB card I usually record 4+ hours without any need to control bitrate.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ga83 on March 17, 2015, 08:02:51 PM
You shoot videos with battery grip installed? Do you have any overheating issue?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: grey on March 17, 2015, 09:47:18 PM
Quote from: ga83 on March 17, 2015, 08:02:51 PM
You shoot videos with battery grip installed? Do you have any overheating issue?

No. I change batteries. I have 6 pcs. LP-E6 from DSTE. Never had overheating problems with 70D, and with 6D too. My friend have 5D3, and when we record long videos he has problems with temperature. We record at same time with 5D3 + 650D + 6D and only 5D3 overheat.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: TKF Productions on March 18, 2015, 06:57:21 PM
This Alpha4b release is amazing!  I had the Alpha3 build and it literally took me 30 seconds to update it with the new installation/bootable process.  Thank you for your continued hard work on this!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: dbox on March 19, 2015, 12:57:10 AM
Hi everybody

Any news about ML for 70D with low s/n?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: flou on March 19, 2015, 12:05:36 PM
My serial start with #065 , I had se the smaller than #068 is not possible to use the ML.

So my questions is? When we will have a version for all serials? is possible? Or not?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: kubodhi on March 19, 2015, 02:26:35 PM
Quote from: dbox on March 19, 2015, 12:57:10 AM
Hi everybody

Any news about ML for 70D with low s/n?

Quote from: flou on March 19, 2015, 12:05:36 PM
My serial start with #065 , I had se the smaller than #068 is not possible to use the ML.

So my questions is? When we will have a version for all serials? is possible? Or not?


Welcome to the community!  :)  Just watch the first post of this thread.  I'm sure information will be posted there when the effort swings from getting ML working on the 70D that the developer has in his hands to making the necessary adjustments for it to work on other versions.  Asking this question over and over for 20+ pages won't accelerate the development or even likely get you an ETA.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 19, 2015, 03:55:47 PM
Seriously enough with these questions -- It'll most likely sabotage the developments so please be patience and respect the dev's otherwise...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: AsevenX on March 20, 2015, 04:44:18 PM
Signed up to show support for this and wish the devs the best of luck! You guys are awesome.

Apologies if this is inappropriate for the thread. I've been following this for a few months now and thought I'd say something.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: n00p on March 20, 2015, 07:37:48 PM
Hi folks,
seems I have the "wrong" rev with my 70D.
What can I do to support the development except sending my cam (I need it myself)?
Is there a possibility to get a dump of my cam OS or whatever you need?
Since I'm not a developer, please give me a hint how to extract it from the cam and I'll see what I can do.

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 20, 2015, 07:57:58 PM
Please read this thread. It makes no sense trying to support both firmware versions during this early state of development. Once the bugs for the "later" version are sorted out and port is complete it's supposed to be a matter of days for a port coming up for the "early" version.
Until then: Stay calm and carry on!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: PanzerMamba on March 21, 2015, 12:37:34 PM
Overlays
-Zebras: ok
-Focus Peak: ok
-magic zoom: ok
-cropmarks: ok
-ghost img: not tested
-spotmeter: seems ok
-false color: seems ok
-histogram: ok
-waveform: ok
-vectorscope: ok

Movie:
-grad expo: not tested
-fps override: not sure
-hdr video: seems ok
-vignetting: not tested
-fine tuning:  seems ok
-raw video: almost ok*
-movie tweaks: ok
-dual iso: almost ok**

Shoot
-Intervalometer: ok
-Bracketing: ok
-bulb: not tested
-motion detect: ok
-silent picture: ok

Focus:
-Trap focus: works ok, but i can't stop this function, i had to restart camera (because trash button didn't leads to ml menu)

* AF box disappears after pressing shutter button, and won't appear again.  Sometimes AF works (after pressing shutter button), sometimes not, sometimes camera focus on whole frame, sometimes nothing happening  (stays out of focus)
** Camera heated up intensely, image in liveview is really hard to focus manually, AF is not working.

ML menu kicks out randomly- really annoying sometimes. But generally its stabile. 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: X-STATE on March 21, 2015, 03:39:41 PM
@PanzerMamba, upload the result of dual iso video, plz
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Ryan1singer on March 23, 2015, 02:31:08 AM
I have been following this thread as amazing progress has unfolded. Has this alpha enabled the possibility of 60fps/1080p?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: falllengh on March 23, 2015, 03:29:02 AM
waiting for the support of all revisions!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: crirus on March 23, 2015, 06:32:16 PM
Hello

Just installed the alpha 4b. Installation was just peachy, fast, no issues. However it's not staying in ML menu if I let it inactive for 2-3 seconds.
It heats up to about 64-68C in 30-40 minutes of playing with it, I suppose that's it?
I can't see the green bars on magic zoom focus confirm, should I be in some specific mode/setting?

Otherwise I have no complains, I can already use it in production, with the long time use reserve for now :)

Thank you

Cristian
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: MattNoir on March 23, 2015, 07:29:04 PM
Crirus - if you want to stay in ML menu, try it without liveview, I didn't have any problems.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: jpturner on March 23, 2015, 09:50:26 PM
YES!!!! Please add support the other revisions of 1.1.1...  Thanks for your work and diligence in bringing ML to the 70D!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: crirus on March 24, 2015, 10:01:19 AM
Hello,

well yes, that could be a temporary solution but I rather not close live view each time I jump to menu. Not a deal breaker right now anyways, just a nice fix when everything else works.

One other thing I keep getting asked by people that didn't dare yet to install ML is that if ML can keep the live view open while a hdmi or USB cable is plugged in.

@nikfreak, Do you plan to look into that ?


Regards.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ubermood on March 25, 2015, 08:26:08 AM
I installed and tested Alpha4b yesterday.

One thing that I noticed is that.. after every shot taken, when it previews my picture for 2 sec(s), the preview image is slowly filled up with white garbage pixels from top to bottom before the preview disappears again. I can't remember that it did behave like this before.

Another thing I realised is that, ML:s global draw / onscreen layers are not working when WIFI is set to ON. Had hard time figuring out what was wrong before I figured this out.

Also, the on-screen level meter (in form of a line) erases/eats up my AF-points from the screen when it passes over them.

And last, but not least... it's very annoying when ML menu suddenly disappears after a couple of seconds. It's also not possible to go back to the menu again and change the setting you fiddled with before without first moving (with the keypad) to another setting and then back to the setting that was marked when ML-menu opened with.


Thanks (!!) and keep on working..! :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 25, 2015, 08:44:38 AM
Quote from: ubermood on March 25, 2015, 08:26:08 AM

One thing that I noticed is that.. after every shot taken, when it previews my picture for 2 sec(s), the preview image is slowly filled up with white garbage pixels from top to bottom before the preview disappears again. I can't remember that it did behave like this before.

This "garbage" only appears when RAW zebras are selected to show after taking a pic. So either disable that in ML menu (no raw zebras for QR) or use "Luma Fast" for now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: tuxfoto on March 25, 2015, 09:37:59 AM
Quote from: ubermood on March 25, 2015, 08:26:08 AM
Another thing I realised is that, ML:s global draw / onscreen layers are not working when WIFI is set to ON. Had hard time figuring out what was wrong before I figured this out.

Hi,
i have same effect.
There isn´t Picture in Display, mac only.

Greetings und Thanks for your work nikfreak
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: martijnsx on March 26, 2015, 07:46:46 PM
Good to see that there is progress being made  :)

Approximately how long do you (who are working on it) think we have to wait for the final release/version?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 26, 2015, 07:57:09 PM
It takes how long it takes.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ciriuss925 on March 26, 2015, 11:10:31 PM
I am new member of this post - just got my 70D last week (upgrading from Canon T1i - initially wanted the 7DMark ii but decided against it - I'm on a budget thus the 70D).   

Just dropping a note to thank the ML coders and testers for their hard work -  I am looking forward (no rush!)  to use Magic Lantern once the first version comes out :)  In the meantime I am going through the other posts to read the wonderful features of ML  (currently am interested in dualISO and intervalometer as I am primarily into photography, but looking to experiment with ML video features - raw video or HDR video - when I become more acquainted with the 70D camera).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: renowilliams on March 26, 2015, 11:31:32 PM
Congrats on the new camera. You'll like the 70D. When you get more money saved, I suggest the Sigma 18-35  f1.8 lens as it is great on the 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Loliplol on March 27, 2015, 08:21:48 PM
I just downloaded it and installed it! It works great, but there are some bugs.

Like:
- Live View laggs (sometimes)
- ML Menu just closes on it's own
- Well, I guess this isn't a bug, but where is raw video? I saw some YouTubers recording in raw and I can't find it.
- It says my camera is running on 70 degree celsius.

Thing that I couldn't find that there are or aren't:
- Audio monitoring thingy (I have no idea where to activate it)
- Raw video


If you could like reply or something, that would be awesome! Raw video is very important to me :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on March 27, 2015, 08:55:42 PM
Quote from: Loliplol on March 27, 2015, 08:21:48 PM- ML Menu just closes on it's own
Known issue, I have it too on M1, kinda annoying: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/1974/6d-in-live-view-mode-ml-menu-times-out

Quote from: Loliplol on March 27, 2015, 08:21:48 PM- Well, I guess this isn't a bug, but where is raw video? I saw some YouTubers recording in raw and I can't find it.
In the video menu of ML, kinda last?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Loliplol on March 27, 2015, 09:03:18 PM
Quote from: Licaon_Kter on March 27, 2015, 08:55:42 PM
In the video menu of ML, kinda last?

Found it! Thanks! :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: camcramdigital on March 28, 2015, 01:35:09 AM
Temps while recording are being reported at 60 degree Celsius - is this normal?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Loliplol on March 28, 2015, 09:47:21 AM
Quote from: camcramdigital on March 28, 2015, 01:35:09 AM
Temps while recording are being reported at 60 degree Celsius - is this normal?

My went to 70! I think it's normal, SD card get's pretty hot while writing on it.

Okay, so here are my reports:
- My ML info display is not showing (That thingy you must turn off the canon info on the display, it's not showing up.)
- LiveView still laggs
- It's very glitchy. I press the trashbin, it opens the Canon menu. (sometimes)


Plus a question. What program reads .raw video? My premiere won't, after effects said nope too!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: X-STATE on March 28, 2015, 11:53:38 AM
Quote from: Loliplol on March 28, 2015, 09:47:21 AM
Plus a question. What program reads .raw video? My premiere won't, after effects said nope too!
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=49.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: TKF Productions on March 28, 2015, 07:06:31 PM
Not sure if this question is appropriate here or if I should ask it in the other threads, but I'm trying to convert the .mlv file to something useable.  I downloaded the FUSE MLV to cDNG converter and everything worked fine and I got the DNG files, however, when I tried to import them into After Effects I get the following error:

"After Effects error: the file format module could not parse the file. ( 45 :: 35 )

Anybody know how to fix this or how to get the .MLV files properly converted?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on March 29, 2015, 04:03:04 PM
Just realized that with MLV, it always goes to the Canon LiveView when recording, regardless of what you selected in the menu, even hacked no preview.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UWP on March 30, 2015, 05:55:17 PM
I've been travelling the last weeks and used ML a lot. Right now I have the version from March 6, I'm mostly using dual ISO and Advanced Bracketing. Dual ISO is very stable, big congrats on that! But with advanced bracketing I got some Err 30 when doing this:

Starting to shoot a series. Sometimes the longest pic had been too long (I'm sometimes a bit impatient) and I thought maybe I don't need the long exposure pic, so I just switched the camera off. Immediatley I'm getting Err 30 with the hint to take off the battery and reinsert it. Of course nnothing else happened, after this everything is going on fine, just had to reenable all modules.

I could see kind of log on the SD card afterwards, would it be useful to extract and post it here? Or doesn't it help at all? And I  always get the same error while switching off during advanced bracket shoot. I don't know if it's good or bad to test it that way, but at first it happened and to be sure that it will always happen while switching off I tried it 3 or 4 times and yes: always the same, Err 30.

For me it's a marvellous firmware, I can do lots of nice things with it! Here's an example of one of my bracketing shots:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=812094518843617&l=2f35cd3554

Thank you for this wonderful peace of software!

UWP
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 30, 2015, 06:08:30 PM
Better use the latest build from 1st post.
If you manage to get the ERR30 afterwards again plz post a detailed instruction on how to reproduce it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UWP on March 30, 2015, 06:17:37 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on March 30, 2015, 06:08:30 PM
Better use the latest build from 1st post.
If you manage to get the ERR30 afterwards again plz post a detailed instruction on how to reproduce it.

Ok, I'll try the next days!

UWP
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: RafQue on March 30, 2015, 10:03:48 PM
Quote from: UWP on March 30, 2015, 05:55:17 PM
Here's an example of one of my bracketing shots:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=812094518843617&l=2f35cd3554

Thank you for this wonderful peace of software!

UWP

Hi UWP,

Wow! I just luv your HDR bracketing pic!
Man, I can't wait to make sum myself...  :D
I will go to South Africa next month and I hope I will be able to do some nice HDR bracketing shooting over there.
But I don't want to sound like sum other people in this thread who are also waiting on a build for their revision, so please don't feel strained in any way, because I'm really thankful for your effort, Nikfreak! ;)

Grtz,
RafQue
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UWP on March 31, 2015, 01:11:28 PM
Quote from: RafQue on March 30, 2015, 10:03:48 PM
Hi UWP,

Wow! I just luv your HDR bracketing pic!
Man, I can't wait to make sum myself...  :D


Thank you!

I can also recommend dual ISO, although the output is not as impressive, but it's fair enough:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=783824978337238&l=66dc5b613d

(This one has been made with a 650d, the quality with a 70d should be much better)

The work-side is just a bit more but here you can do HDR in one-shot, that's especially by day very helpful!

Have a nice time in South Africa, lots of good pictures for you!

UWP
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 31, 2015, 01:53:09 PM
Quote from: UWP on March 31, 2015, 01:11:28 PM
(This one has been made with a 650d, the quality with a 70d should be much better)

"Much better"? May I ask why?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UWP on March 31, 2015, 02:08:38 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on March 31, 2015, 01:53:09 PM
"Much better"? May I ask why?

Dual ISO is about 2 shifting ISO lines. One is normally with ISO 100 and the second one should be higher. The 650d has first noise at ISO 200 and a bit more at ISO 400. ISO 800 is really visible noise at the pics. To get much exposure gain you should always have a big difference between both "poles", but ISO100/1600 was too much for a good quality dual ISO pic with the 650d so I had to go down to 100/800 but even here I got noise in the result. When I'm doing 100/800 with the 70d there's almost no noise, the pics are very clear. I first have this good result with a 650d with 100/400 while the result with 100/1600 is also quite ok with the 70d. And when I compare the normal pics: 70d has almost no noise upto ISO 800, with ISO 1600 I can see the first disturbing pixels, the 650d is way worse regarding ISO quality. BTW, with the 650d I always had to do bracketing HDRs with ISO100. ISO 200 lead to too much noise in the resulting pic. With the 70d it's possible to do bracketing HDRs with ISO 400 (the bridge has been made with ISO 400) with almost no noise. 70d is just a better camera or has got a better sensor/technical stuff/processor inside, whatsoever. The results are obvious for me.

UWP
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: dmilligan on March 31, 2015, 02:51:55 PM
Higher ISOs have less noise (per photoelectron) not more (otherwise it would be pointless to use them). Therefore, using a higher recovery ISO with dual ISO will result in less noise in the final image, not more. This is the whole entire reason dual ISO exists and is useful.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10111.0
http://clarkvision.com/articles/iso/index.html
http://theory.uchicago.edu/~ejm/pix/20d/tests/noise/index.html
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UWP on March 31, 2015, 04:04:50 PM
Quote from: dmilligan on March 31, 2015, 02:51:55 PM
Higher ISOs have less noise (per photoelectron) not more (otherwise it would be pointless to use them). Therefore, using a higher recovery ISO with dual ISO will result in less noise in the final image, not more. This is the whole entire reason dual ISO exists and is useful.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10111.0
http://clarkvision.com/articles/iso/index.html
http://theory.uchicago.edu/~ejm/pix/20d/tests/noise/index.html

All of this might be right, but the results speak their own language. Higher ISO = less quality, especially regarding noise patterns. That's what I can see on all my pics. Even in dual ISO I can see the effect although of course a ISO 100/1600 pic is way better than just a ISO 1600 pic, even with the 650d.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Frank7D on March 31, 2015, 05:35:20 PM
"All of this might be right, but the results speak their own language. Higher ISO = less quality, especially regarding noise patterns. That's what I can see on all my pics. Even in dual ISO I can see the effect although of course a ISO 100/1600 pic is way better than just a ISO 1600 pic, even with the 650d."

I get different results from you, though (on the 7D). For me, lower ISO results in larger noise grain and more obvious vertical banding. Can you describe what "less quality" means to you?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UWP on March 31, 2015, 05:56:16 PM
Quote from: Frank7D on March 31, 2015, 05:35:20 PM

I get different results from you, though (on the 7D). For me, lower ISO results in larger noise grain and more obvious vertical banding. Can you describe what "less quality" means to you?

I'll try to bring some test pics to show. I guess it will be weekend until then. Right now I don't have time for shooting pics.
But I'll try to show!

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Loliplol on March 31, 2015, 06:11:42 PM
Magic Lantern for 70D is probably like the best thing ever made. Raw video is just epic, it does need more space and things, but the video looks awesome!

But I can't find that audio monitor thingy. Is it in the latest verison or is it still in development?
Also, anamorphic thingy is just epic for filming "film"-like stuff! :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: dmilligan on March 31, 2015, 06:12:26 PM
@UWP,

Take two photos with the same shutter speed and aperture, one at ISO 100 and one at ISO 1600. In post, bump the exposure of the ISO 100 shot by ~4 EV to match the ISO 1600 shot. Now, compare the two.

Now, with the same shutter speed and aperture (and the same scene), take a dual ISO shot at 100/1600. Process it with cr2hdr and increase the exposure to match the first two. Compare with the first two.

You will find that:
* The ISO 100 shot has a lot of noise in the shadows
* The ISO 1600 shot has a lot less noise, but a lot of it may be overexposed
* The ISO 100/1600 shot has the same noise as the ISO 1600 shot, but it is not overexposed (it's exposed like the ISO 100 shot)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 31, 2015, 06:48:56 PM
Quote from: dmilligan on March 31, 2015, 06:12:26 PM
You will find that:
* The ISO 100 shot has a lot of noise in the shadows
* The ISO 1600 shot has a lot less noise, but a lot of it may be overexposed
* The ISO 100/1600 shot has the same noise as the ISO 1600 shot, but it is not overexposed (it's exposed like the ISO 100 shot)

Agreed. BIG time!  8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UWP on March 31, 2015, 07:20:46 PM
@dmilligan,

Quote from: dmilligan on March 31, 2015, 06:12:26 PM

Take two photos with the same shutter speed and aperture, one at ISO 100 and one at ISO 1600. In post, bump the exposure of the ISO 100 shot by ~4 EV to match the ISO 1600 shot. Now, compare the two.

Now, with the same shutter speed and aperture (and the same scene), take a dual ISO shot at 100/1600. Process it with cr2hdr and increase the exposure to match the first two. Compare with the first two.


Sounds interesting, I'll try, although I don't have tools which can do "exactly +4 EV", I'll have to do it by looking at the pictures, when they're "equally bright". Thank you, I'm always willing to learn!

UWP
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Marc_Petzold on March 31, 2015, 09:55:00 PM
Hello Guys

It´s time to create a version for the other revision. The 4b is stable in the basic applikations. We must look to the other revision that we may know whether there are big differences in dealing with the other hardware. I do not think this is just a copy from 4b with a other startpoint or so.


br
Marc
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 31, 2015, 10:03:08 PM
Too late, it's already on it's way: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/620/add-support-for-eos-70d-111-both-revisions/diff
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on March 31, 2015, 10:46:18 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on March 31, 2015, 10:03:08 PM
Too late, it's already on it's way: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/620/add-support-for-eos-70d-111-both-revisions/diff

:) ;) :D ;D :o 8) :o ;D :D ;) :)
Can you guys see this?!?!?!?!
   It's my happy dance!!!!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Makadamia on March 31, 2015, 11:48:43 PM
Good news :)

Anyway - take your time, I can wait. Though I'll be happy to test it on my Rev. B 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: theollybanks on April 01, 2015, 12:34:01 AM
Hello.

Willing volunteer here to test the Rev.B Firmware on personal 70D. Keep me informed if thats a possibility!  :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: janoschsimon on April 01, 2015, 07:51:15 AM
great news :-) keep up the great work :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UrbexJoe on April 01, 2015, 08:26:45 AM
I am willing to test on 2 RevB. I am eager, i must admit ;). Keep up the good work I love it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: CommanderHT on April 01, 2015, 09:43:46 AM
Hi nikfreak and dev's. Thumbs up for your very good work. I am also willing to test RevB on my 70D. Appreciated ML already since the early days on a 550D, later on a 60D and I'm curious how it performs on my 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: pierre2fun on April 01, 2015, 01:41:06 PM
 8)  Nikfreak, many thanks for your hard work: chapeau bas  8)

Alex1, Nano, the testers and the ML team are not forgotten. THANKS  :D
Of course, I will help!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 01, 2015, 02:20:26 PM
So Nik thanks for the easter treat!!! Kinda like an easter egg hunt.
Cant wait to unwrap the new version goodies ...

Cheers! And Def-eye looks like the days of coasting will soon be over.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 01, 2015, 05:47:51 PM
   This is GreatNewsIndeed Nik&Team ~ CountMeIn as a Tester ~

               ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: RafQue on April 01, 2015, 07:14:04 PM
Euh....

R U sure it's not just April fools day?  :P
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: grzala99 on April 01, 2015, 07:20:04 PM
Walter wrote information :
"Too late, it's already on it's way: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/620/add-support-for-eos-70d-111-both-revisions/diff"
it was yesterday and it means it is true (should be).
After midnight this could be a fools day prank. (hope not)
Can`t wait for ML for 2of my 70D`s
best regards
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 01, 2015, 07:24:15 PM
Well, there is this thing with timezones, you know?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 01, 2015, 07:28:57 PM
Quote from: RafQue on April 01, 2015, 07:14:04 PM
Euh....

R U sure it's not just April fools day?  :P

This is no joke.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: RafQue on April 01, 2015, 07:30:19 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on April 01, 2015, 07:28:57 PM
This is no joke.

Phiough... thx 4 clearing that up Nik!  :-*
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: bsauce42 on April 01, 2015, 07:30:23 PM
[emoji108]
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: tomp on April 01, 2015, 09:02:32 PM
Hi,  first big thx for your effort in developing magic lantern. I have an idea of adding adittional functionality to magic lantern and canon DSLR.

I'm a hunter but i hunt more with 70d lately then with riffle. Recently i'm starting to train in long distance shooting (target shooting) and i thought about buying observing scope not to have to walk to the target board.

70d with 150-600mm tamron has big adventage over observing scope - i don't have to change position to look throu observing scope. Just turn head and check the lcd display. The other thing great about magic lanter is that it shows the distance between the camera and the target.

Is it possible to include a simple ballistic calculator module in magic lantern?
Youser would provide ballistic data for ammunition he uses, and the program would calculate (already has distance, earth derivation is known, youser could enter the actual temperature and atm. pressure) and show on the lcd how high/left/right should the shooter aim, or simpler how many MOA adjustment on the scope should be made.

Perhaps dslr coud be also helpful during low light hunting - in my country before shooting we have to recognize target with binoculars - i think that good dslr coud give brighter image then binoculars (70d with cinestyle and 18-135mm high iso looks promissing for this task)

Excuse my English, thank you again, and regards
Tom
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Marc_Petzold on April 01, 2015, 09:56:41 PM
Hey Ho
:P
But where is the download.
To early April April (german insider SCHULZ)

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/620/add-support-for-eos-70d-111-both-revisions/diff


If something comes up , it should be on the first page.
BR.
Marc
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 01, 2015, 10:00:37 PM
"It's on it's way" may be translated "We are not there, yet". Why announce something not ready yet without any clue how long it will actually take?

Didn't expect nikfreak to fall for this prank ...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UrbexJoe on April 01, 2015, 10:10:17 PM
Not funny  :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 01, 2015, 10:34:35 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on April 01, 2015, 10:00:37 PM
"It's on it's way" may be translated "We are not there, yet". Why announce something not ready yet without any glue how long it will actually take?

Didn't expect nikfreak to fall for this prank ...

Yes, BSOD caught me as commented (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/2235/5dmk2-bricked-urgent-please) but still the pull request is no joke wether it might be declined or put on hold for weeks...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Matheus on April 02, 2015, 04:22:17 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on April 01, 2015, 10:34:35 PM
Yes, BSOD caught me as commented (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/2235/5dmk2-bricked-urgent-please) but still the pull request is no joke wether it might be declined or put on hold for weeks...

Just do as it suggests, enable peaking, take a photo of today's date on a calendar and everything should be fine. The magic button part may be a bit tricky to do, but worked fine for me...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: inestima on April 02, 2015, 06:44:28 PM
@nikfreak if you need an early 70d body (sn 03202101xxxx) , I'd be happy to ship mine your way. It's not getting much use atm.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 02, 2015, 07:06:48 PM
Quote from: inestima on April 02, 2015, 06:44:28 PM
@nikfreak if you need an early 70d body (sn 03202101xxxx) , I'd be happy to ship mine your way. It's not getting much use atm.

It would ofc be easier to test and manage some stuff on it but better keep it in your hands rather than sending and returning it from one address to another forth and back. Once we got a "hello world" or "installer" firmware for Rev. B it's up to one of you to try and report back. I simply assume I can keep it maintained for both revisions. One will be blindly maintained. Maybe we get lucky one day and Canon decides to bring out a new firmware. That would make it easier.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: CommanderHT on April 03, 2015, 09:41:37 AM
@nikfreak:
Why not write a petition to Canon (of course not as ML users, but just as disappointed 70D Users). The petition should refer to the fact, that even cheap Canon Systemcams can do 1080p with 60fps, have focus peaking etc. It should be easy for them to update at least the possibility for higher framrates in 1080p mode. That be the reason for the petition and if Canon swallows it, we would have our firmware update. I know this is a bit out of topic but what about that?
Can we get a few hundred or better thousand 70D users together for that? I would be willing to send the petition in my name to Canon.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: rihardsg on April 03, 2015, 12:14:54 PM
Just tried on my 053022016xxx.
Doesn't work out.
After patching live view get frozen and after rebooting Err 80.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: MattNoir on April 03, 2015, 12:48:10 PM
CommanderHT
I am afraid 1080p 60fps would not be possible because of hardware limitations (write speed) and petition would do nothing. i whink they know well what people want, they must roam the internet and see our wishes. But if they implement it, it would cost much more, because *MARKETING*
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 03, 2015, 07:36:21 PM
1080 60fps - hmmm how about h264 write to usb for clean outs.  That's a bit more interesting. 
Once I get 70D raw loading, I am interested in the write to card & usb dual approach ... if that works that can increase performance for all ML cameras. 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 03, 2015, 07:43:35 PM
Isn't All-I for 70D at 25 fps something around 12 MByte/s write rate? That should not be a problem with SD-card interface even at 60 fps with H.264 and there is no need to fool around with USB.
Correct me if my calculations are wrong.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: xsghost on April 04, 2015, 11:15:22 AM
So I just installed ML on my 70D and I'm looking at the functions for arrow keys (ISO, WB), but I can't toggle the function to come on. It says I should use the LIGHT key, but pressing it does nothing while recording, and it just toggles the.. lcd light in liveview. Is there something I'm missing, or is it just not working yet?

Also, i'm missing the display of the rec time, or remaining rec time while recording.
And the DigitalZoom shortcut (1x,3x) that I grew accustomed to on my 600D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 04, 2015, 08:29:21 PM
Walter I get IPB compression (1920x1080x24x30=1492MB vs 85MB) as 17.6MB/S  well under the 40MB/s card writer speed.  based on http://learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2012/ipp_ipb_all_i_compare.htmlp

So 1920x1080x60=3732.5 MB and with IPB compression applied write speed needed is 44 MB/s. Note quite sustainable on a 70D.  Check if I am wrong.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 04, 2015, 09:20:23 PM
Sorry, I cannot follow your maths.
"1920x1080x24x30=1492MB"
The source you linked got a file 106 MByte big after 30 seconds in All-I 1080p24. -> My math gives me about 3.5 MByte/s (rather low. I had higher rates in IPB ...)

Canon tells about 5 minutes for each 4 GByte. Math tells me it's about 13.3 MByte/s.
Following that number 60 fps will require about 33.3 MByte/s. Sufficient with the SD-card interface.

I have no idea where you got that 1492 number.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: SgtIcetea on April 04, 2015, 10:22:52 PM
Any new info for not working 70Ds? Was it an April's fool or is ML coming for anyone now? I could not find any download or test version for this and couldn't figure out whats true now
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 04, 2015, 10:28:34 PM
There indeed was a pull request *before* April Fools Day but Nikfreak fell for the prank and chickened out. Pull request got re-instated after he found out what was actually going on.
But "We are not there yet" applies as long this pull request is in review.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: SgtIcetea on April 04, 2015, 10:54:42 PM
Okay thanks, I will wait for test versions
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Mallowsm on April 05, 2015, 02:01:53 PM
Hi could someone help me. I had the First Nightly ML and then i changed to the new one. It worked now i can't get anything. Ive formatted the card on my mac and in my 70d and tried to start a fresh but alas nothing. Press the trash can and nothing happens anymore. Is there something that has changed or something different that i need to do. Ive copied the files across onto the card like i did originally. I took a picture before copying the files across just incase so it made the DCIM folder etc. Any help would be appreciated greatly
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: chris_overseas on April 05, 2015, 02:05:52 PM
@Mallowsm: sounds like your card is no longer marked as bootable.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Mallowsm on April 05, 2015, 02:08:43 PM
Quote from: chris_overseas on April 05, 2015, 02:05:52 PM
@Mallowsm: sounds like your card is no longer marked as bootable.
Yeah i completely formatted the thing like highest level on the disk utility it took forever but its all sorted now, Running ML again. Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: anthonykeane on April 06, 2015, 06:40:07 AM
BUG REPORT:

Motion Detect:

Err 70 happens after several successful shots, locks the camera with an err 70, powering off causes the LCD to show battery, the number 1 ( in the shots remaining) and a single bar from the exposure gradient.

requires the removal of the battery to recover Alpha 4b



Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 06, 2015, 03:31:40 PM
Quote from: xsghost on April 04, 2015, 11:15:22 AM
So I just installed ML on my 70D and I'm looking at the functions for arrow keys (ISO, WB), but I can't toggle the function to come on. It says I should use the LIGHT key, but pressing it does nothing while recording, and it just toggles the.. lcd light in liveview. Is there something I'm missing, or is it just not working yet?

nice find while playing around with that I discovered that SET+MAINDIAL wouldn't work too. Fixed it by using a different Apphandler stub while reviewing images...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: yoyo75011 on April 07, 2015, 12:20:48 PM
Hi everyone, I am new on the forum.
I installed ML on my 70D (098024000xxx) two days ago. So far, it seems to work fine. I use it almost only on video mode and I will test it tomorrow during a 2 hours show.
Thanks for the job you all are doing.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on April 07, 2015, 08:04:32 PM

Quote from: yoyo75011 on April 07, 2015, 12:20:48 PM
Hi everyone, I am new on the forum.
I installed ML on my 70D (098024000xxx) two days ago. So far, it seems to work fine. I use it almost only on video mode and I will test it tomorrow during a 2 hours show.
Thanks for the job you all are doing.

Make sure to thoroughly test out all settings before the show in order to avoid recording issues.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: muc2810 on April 07, 2015, 11:15:45 PM
on my 70D "Motion Detect" works fine. There is no error. I did about 50 RAW's in a line. No Problems Using the latest build.

What about Audio? Any chance to get it in the next alpha? Would be great.

Thanks
Stefan
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Stigliano on April 08, 2015, 09:13:14 PM
Excuse my English. Google Translate.  ;D ;D
I need to use a TV as video assist, connected by HDMI.
Its out image on TV and continue on the LCD?
hug
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: yoyo75011 on April 09, 2015, 10:59:01 AM
Hi Stigliano,
no, you will only have the image on your field/external monitor, and pay attention to this, if you are out of battery on your monitor or disconnect it, it will stop recording.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: yoyo75011 on April 09, 2015, 11:17:05 AM
Hi
back from my first vidéo shooting using ML. Works fine even if I couldn't test everything...It changes a bit to have all these information on the screen but so far, I had no trouble during recording.
There is one thing I would mention, even if I mostly use manual focus, when I tried with auto focus, the square mark disappeared automatically after 2 sec. Is it normal?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 09, 2015, 12:54:34 PM
Quote from: yoyo75011 on April 09, 2015, 11:17:05 AM
Hi
back from my first vidéo shooting using ML. Works fine even if I couldn't test everything...It changes a bit to have all these information on the screen but so far, I had no trouble during recording.
There is one thing I would mention, even if I mostly use manual focus, when I tried with auto focus, the square mark disappeared automatically after 2 sec. Is it normal?

Check ML settings. autofocus box is set to "auto-hide" by default. Change it to "show" and that's it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Danne on April 09, 2015, 02:31:31 PM
Hi Nikfreak! Nice work on 70D. The cr2hdr20bit version you provide, does it lack the option gramymed, graymax? Couldn,t find the options from N/A compilation.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: yoyo75011 on April 09, 2015, 06:29:56 PM
Great, thanks for your passion.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: snakec on April 10, 2015, 05:52:31 AM
Where is bitratre ..X for movie?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: thebishopgame on April 10, 2015, 07:47:09 PM
Been diggin' ML on the 70d for a couple weeks now, thanks for the great work! Ran into my first gotcha:

BUG REPORT:

Ghost Image doesn't seem to work, whether in conjunction with other ML features or on its own. Enabling it just causes the ML displays to flicker and doesn't draw anything new on the screen. Disabling it returns everything to normal function.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Filip on April 11, 2015, 12:14:17 AM
Hey guys,

I've got a bit of an issue with dual iso photos - when I drag and drop my dual ISO cr2s on top of cr2hdr.exe a command prompt windows flicks open for less than a second and then disappears and does not create a new dng file (unless it does so in a very obscure location).

Do any of you have the same issue? Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

Just to mention that I am indeed using the cr2hdr.exe file downloaded from the first page of this thread.

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: gsanchez922 on April 11, 2015, 04:49:41 AM
Hello everyone, I'd like to know if anybody has a video with the dual iso and if someone can explain to me how to used because I can't get it work thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 11, 2015, 07:31:47 AM
Quote from: Filip on April 11, 2015, 12:14:17 AM
Do any of you have the same issue? Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

Just to mention that I am indeed using the cr2hdr.exe file downloaded from the first page of this thread.

Thanks

What about dcraw and exiftool? Do you have them at the same location / folder available? I guess you miss those and that's why it won't work...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Filip on April 11, 2015, 06:36:01 PM
I tried all possible options (with/without/one there/the other there) and still the same result...

I guess dcraw and exiftool are not specific to the 70D as cr2hdr is?

Cheers for the quick response!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: kubodhi on April 11, 2015, 06:38:44 PM
Quote from: Filip on April 11, 2015, 12:14:17 AM
Hey guys,

I've got a bit of an issue with dual iso photos - when I drag and drop my dual ISO cr2s on top of cr2hdr.exe a command prompt windows flicks open for less than a second and then disappears and does not create a new dng file (unless it does so in a very obscure location).

Do any of you have the same issue? Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

Just to mention that I am indeed using the cr2hdr.exe file downloaded from the first page of this thread.

Thanks

One thing you could do is open a Command Prompt and navigate to the appropriate directory with your cr2hdr executable.  Launch it from there, pointing it to your cr2, and then the window won't go away and you'll be able to read the error output.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: mrpanda on April 12, 2015, 12:08:59 PM
Bonjour,

J'ai un EOS 70D et je voudrais installer ML mais cela ne marche pas
je télécharge ML je le dzip je copie tout sur ma carte sd
je l'insert dans l'appareil ensuite je demande une mise  a jour du logiciel la led rouge clignote  et en suite il retourne au menu de l'appareil et quand j'appuie sur la poubelle ML ne ce lance pas 

Hello,

I have a 70D and EOS But I Would ML IT installer does not work
I I Dzip sd Download ML I copy everything on my card
I insert into UNIT I ask the room A Last Day Software The Red led flashes and bathroom EN IT returns to the menu De UNIT AND WHEN I support On The ML trash not launch

sorry for my english i'm not good
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Filip on April 12, 2015, 03:57:08 PM
Thanks for the tip kubidhi!!

I ran it through command prompt and found that cr2hdr is looking for 'dcraw' and 'exiftool' specifically and mine were named a bit different (I had not changed them - they came like that after the download). I renamed the two appropriately and now it all works perfectly!!

Cheers for the help, much appreciated!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 12, 2015, 06:22:36 PM
      MrPanda

   It sounds as if you probably have 1 of the Early Models of 70D ~ As Do I ~ Read the Very 1st post

carefully for some details ~ Those of us with Early 70Ds are just going to have to wait for all the Major

Bugs to get worked out & then NikF' will Port a Version for Our Cam's ~

                     ORR ~ DeanB

                                      MrPanda

             Il semble que si vous pouvez avoir une des premiers modèles de 70D ~ Comme Dois-je ~ Lire la Très 1er post

attentivement certains détails ~ Ceux d'entre nous avec Early 70Ds allez juste devoir attendre pour tous les grands

Bugs à se élaborées et puis NikF «volonté Port une version pour Notre Cam de ~

                                                                                                                                    ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: steviemay on April 12, 2015, 06:43:18 PM
Hi guys I'm trying to find out the best resolution to use when recording raw I used 1280x720 and it seemed really low quality
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 12, 2015, 06:59:01 PM
Low quality means in detail?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: steviemay on April 12, 2015, 06:59:41 PM
It looks like it has a lot of noise to it
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 12, 2015, 07:00:58 PM
Maybe there is a lot of noise in it. You haven't bothered to tell any settings you used.
Samples, please.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: steviemay on April 12, 2015, 07:04:49 PM
Can't show any samples I'm in work at the moment I was using canon 50mm and in camera settings 1920x1080 25 frames a second
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: mrpanda on April 12, 2015, 10:07:16 PM
ok thx  OlRivrRat

il n'y a pas d'autre solution ?

there is no other solution?


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: SamuLibero on April 12, 2015, 10:59:40 PM
Hi guys ....i ha e a problem, I can not install Ml :( my camera has a higher serial number than 6871947635... Is this why it doesn't work ? T

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 12, 2015, 11:07:08 PM
Format card in cardreader. Format card in camera. Start all over again.
If it fails again ... you have to be patient.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Mayavin on April 13, 2015, 11:05:08 AM
Hi,
Thanks for the good work :)
I am a newbie and have a problem with installing this aplha. I copy the files to the root of the sd-card and then I try to update firmware. I get only message saying: "Memory card containing firmware is required to update".

I would include attachments the screen shots of my content of the memory card if I would know how to do it here in the forum. I tried in 2 different ways. First putting to the root the two files and secondly copying the folder that resulted from unzip containing the two files. In both two cases the same result.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 13, 2015, 11:43:45 AM
There are 2 files and one directory needed on card:
AUTOEXEC.BIN
ML70D111.FIR
ML (directory)

Go to first page, first post. Follow instructions.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: bredy on April 13, 2015, 07:54:59 PM
But the sn supported is 006871947635 or 068719476735?
Title: Canon 70D Public Release?
Post by: starvinmarvin on April 14, 2015, 01:20:18 AM
Hello,

How can I stay in the loop about a public release, once it is available?

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Joos on April 14, 2015, 03:18:00 AM
I really beg you , make a version suitable for all audits 70d, please. I dutifully waited with the first day of the project , and now it seems no one is going to do a beta version , I completely understand that you do not owe anything to anyone , but I just ask you - do it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: kubodhi on April 14, 2015, 03:39:51 AM
Quote from: Joos on April 14, 2015, 03:18:00 AM
I really beg you , make a version suitable for all audits 70d, please. I dutifully waited with the first day of the project , and now it seems no one is going to do a beta version , I completely understand that you do not owe anything to anyone , but I just ask you - do it.

It's cool that you've waited this long, but you should really check out the commit history on the project to get a better understanding of not only how much work has gone into it, but how constant the progress has been.  nikfreak is doing an amazing job, and the priority is to get a safe, reliable version on the model he has in his hands.  After that, focus can be shifted to figuring out the differences between the other firmware subversions.  Asking for it won't speed it up; it'll be ready when it's ready.  I'm sure if you wanted to spearhead a fundraising campaign so that these guys could do this full time rather than as side projects, where a good chunk of their time is trying politely to respond to everyone who hasn't read the history of the project to date... Well, they probably wouldn't complain about that.   ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: khalidbutt on April 14, 2015, 06:16:24 AM
I downloaded ML alpha4b on my canon 70D. I shoot some footage in raw and h.264 (canon build-in).somehow the RAW footage is not giving me that output that I expected. little grainy and blasted colour

I believe I am missing something. Can anyone help me in RAW video setting for 70D. I am new to this so maybe I am missing something
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ecobio on April 14, 2015, 08:50:24 AM
Hi, I cannot find the audio settings menu in ML for 70D, can anyone tell me where it is hidden in the menus ?
Thanks a lot,
Eric
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: xsghost on April 14, 2015, 11:16:44 AM
Quote from: ecobio on April 14, 2015, 08:50:24 AM
Hi, I cannot find the audio settings menu in ML for 70D, can anyone tell me where it is hidden in the menus ?
Thanks a lot,
Eric

There is no audio submenu and no audio settings in this version of ML yet. You have  to control audio from the canon menu.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: yoyo75011 on April 15, 2015, 10:32:13 AM
Quote from: mrpanda on April 12, 2015, 10:07:16 PM
ok thx  OlRivrRat

il n'y a pas d'autre solution ?

there is no other solution?



Bonjour Panda,
j'ai installé récemment ML sur 70D en suivant la vidéo suivante: https://youtu.be/_DtrFE39db4.
C'est très bien expliqué. Il faut bien suivre la procédure pour rendre tes cartes SD bootable, prendre une photo avant d'installer le firmware etc..
Bonne chance.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 15, 2015, 11:02:24 AM
Quote from: yoyo75011 on April 15, 2015, 10:32:13 AM
Bonjour Panda,
j'ai installé récemment ML sur 70D en suivant la vidéo suivante: https://youtu.be/_DtrFE39db4.
C'est très bien expliqué. Il faut bien suivre la procédure pour rendre tes cartes SD bootable, prendre une photo avant d'installer le firmware etc..
Bonne chance.

This doesn't apply for Alpha 4b as there is a new installer available with 4b. There is no other supported way of installing ML to 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: tomp on April 15, 2015, 12:14:46 PM
I have a question about dottune. It seems to work with my camera. After the adjustement procedure do i have to have dottune module active (loaded) or can i disable it ? If i disable the dottune module will the microadjustment still present?

regards
Tom
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 15, 2015, 01:01:35 PM
Quote from: tomp on April 15, 2015, 12:14:46 PM
I have a question about dottune. It seems to work with my camera. After the adjustement procedure do i have to have dottune module active (loaded) or can i disable it ? If i disable the dottune module will the microadjustment still present?

regards
Tom

Offtopic but: you can disable the module again once you did all your tests. The module clearly displays recommended values and also writes them to canon menu. Seems like you blindly trusted the module without verifying what it wrote to the canon menu...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 15, 2015, 01:28:06 PM
And something easily to be tested by himself.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: tomp on April 15, 2015, 02:23:43 PM
Thank You for reply. Indeed, looks like the module didn't write the values in canon menu. It suggested +2, and when i checked W and T were on "0" in canon menu.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 15, 2015, 03:15:00 PM
Quote from: tomp on April 15, 2015, 02:23:43 PM
Thank You for reply. Indeed, looks like the module didn't write the values in canon menu. It suggested +2, and when i checked W and T were on "0" in canon menu.

Recheck that. It works over here. Be sure to read through the dottune thread and register your lens properly...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: tomp on April 16, 2015, 01:25:15 AM
I did it again and it worked. The adjustement stayed in canon menu even after disabling dottune menu. That was with 18-135 lense. Works like charm. Sadly, with 35 f2.0 canon IS lense the procedure doesn't end. LCD screen goes black and nothing happens. After few minutes camera goes standby. Both are registered. With prime lens i'v chcecked box in menu only to adjust "W".
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: jakepetre on April 16, 2015, 01:29:33 AM
Been following this thread since day one. And new user here! I just wanted to thank nikifreak and everyone else who's helping for working so hard. For users constantly asking if it'll work for their camera, please read the first post. For users constantly asking when it will work for all 70D models, please read the first post. Personally, I am happy to wait however long I need to. I'd much rather use a finely tuned camera than one with buggy software. Needless to say I'm still anxiously waiting! Keep up the great work everyone. I'm showing this thread to all my 70D friends and telling them to donate.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: gulnaz on April 16, 2015, 06:11:35 AM
I installed magic lantern in my 70D serial number 154045007708. the problem is when ever i go into magic lantern setting page after around 5-8 sec it pulls me out of magic lantern setting page back to camera default page.

also in one of the installation videos referred : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1YOAPxWe0I at time code 0:35 of the video it shows autoexe.bin (file size = 406912) and ML70D111.FIR (filesize 235676) where as the downloaded version file size is 448KB and 29KB respectively.

Is there any file that is not mentioned or is it suppose to be that much of size ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 16, 2015, 06:36:00 AM
All Q answered in first post of first page.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: TKF Productions on April 16, 2015, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: yoyo75011 on April 15, 2015, 10:32:13 AM
Bonjour Panda,
j'ai installé récemment ML sur 70D en suivant la vidéo suivante: https://youtu.be/_DtrFE39db4.
C'est très bien expliqué. Il faut bien suivre la procédure pour rendre tes cartes SD bootable, prendre une photo avant d'installer le firmware etc..
Bonne chance.

Yoyo - The annotation at the top of that video (and in the description) clarifies regarding the Alpha4b build.  I actually posted a new video showing the installation process for the current version which is very quick and extremely easy, check it out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaIO6190pM4
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: carlos787 on April 17, 2015, 02:29:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhjzkQIjoQw

hey guys, just wanted to share a little video, let me know how it looks.
:)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: bigorna on April 17, 2015, 03:16:44 AM
This video is not available anymore....
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: xsghost on April 17, 2015, 09:47:09 AM
Quote from: carlos787 on April 17, 2015, 02:29:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhjzkQIjoQw

hey guys, just wanted to share a little video, let me know how it looks.
:)

Very nice. Did you shoot it in raw?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: sergey on April 17, 2015, 10:46:58 AM
How i can  skip  a start  ML pressing when I power ON ( hold down the press any key(set, play or ...?) at power ON )  ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 17, 2015, 11:01:16 AM
SET
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: sergey on April 17, 2015, 11:27:07 AM
did not work.
how many seconds to hold down?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 17, 2015, 11:31:25 AM
Make sure you haven't reassigned buttons in Canon menu. Turn off cam. Press SET and keep it pressed. Power on. Wait some seconds and release SET.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: sergey on April 17, 2015, 11:53:31 AM
Wait some seconds  ---  2-3 or 10  seconds ?
after that the menu  ML  should not appear ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 17, 2015, 11:56:19 AM
Yes. You may press Trashcan button and ML menu should not pop up.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: TAVOLIDO on April 17, 2015, 11:38:14 PM
this is what happens when i try to install the firmware... any suggest? https://youtu.be/pmyz1bduHtw
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: bsauce42 on April 18, 2015, 12:54:09 AM
Read the first post.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: jpturner on April 18, 2015, 11:44:35 PM
70D the only camera that Canon cannot be improve...

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/standard_display/support_pro/pro_firmware-updates

Except for Canon giving us a "unified" firmware update so that we "all" can have ML on our 70D's... I just thought I'd throw that out there for the Canon engineers who (we all know) read these ML forums.  Please guys?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: gulnaz on April 19, 2015, 07:44:08 AM
I have some problem with magic lantern. I have found that I do not see bitrate (CRB) values in movie section. maybe im missing something.

Also, I shoot in both raw and ML raw format but somehow when I change ISO values nothing happen. to brighten the screen / shot I have to increase EV value but ISO doen't seems to work in my 70D.

Lastely, shooting in RAW/ML format I always have lots of grain and noise in my footage.

please help
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 19, 2015, 07:01:06 PM
                  Guinaz

        The 70D only allows ISO Control for Videos if you are in Manual Mode ~ In All other Modes the ISO is Auto ~ Could that be your cause ~

I find this to be VeryAnnoying & Don't understand why Canon Chose to do that ~ Perhaps that could be the FirmwareUpgrade We SoDesire ~

Canon, Please give us the ability to Choose Manual or Auto ISO Control in AllModes ~

                                                                                                                  ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: grey on April 19, 2015, 07:18:37 PM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on April 19, 2015, 07:01:06 PM
                  Guinaz

        The 70D only allows ISO Control for Videos if you are in Manual Mode ~ In All other Modes the ISO is Auto ~ Could that be your cause ~

I find this to be VeryAnnoying & Don't understand why Canon Chose to do that ~ Perhaps that could be the FirmwareUpgrade We SoDesire ~

Canon, Please give us the ability to Choose Manual or Auto ISO Control in AllModes ~

                                                                                                                  ORR ~ DeanB



I think iso is auto for jump less exposure changing. If we fixate  iso camera can change only shutter and iris. Iris is very slow and change boke, shutter speed changing will appear in different motion blur between frames and flickering in fluorescent light. So only one parameter that painlessly changeable is iso.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 19, 2015, 09:59:48 PM
                                     Grey

          I Understand & Can Appreciate that ~ But ~ I think it should be the ShootersChoice ~ Not Canons Mandate ~

                                                                                                                            ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: gulnaz on April 20, 2015, 03:04:03 AM
You are right OlRivrRat...no ISO ability in any other mode. Not only this all my raw videos have so much of noise and grains and i could not find any proper solution for that.

Also when i shoot at 1536x968 at 2.50:1 aspect ration and convert raw file using raw2dng the outcome is mostly footages are pink and cut half. When i export raw or ML file directly into premiere it is better than dng result but lots of noise.

I have tried all ways and i guess at this point maybe i have to wait for the stable release for 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: grey on April 20, 2015, 04:02:51 AM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on April 19, 2015, 09:59:48 PM
                                     Grey

          I Understand & Can Appreciate that ~ But ~ I think it should be the ShootersChoice ~ Not Canons Mandate ~

                                                                                                                            ORR ~ DeanB

if you're experienced enough, why do you need P mode? But for beginners full auto P mode is good enough. IMHO.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: sergey on April 20, 2015, 10:01:25 AM
I can  skip  a start  ML pressing  only once after make bootable SDXC card.
After i run Intervalometer ,  mlv record   ....  and  skip  a start  ML pressing  --   stops working ( press Trashcan button and ML menu  pop up ). ( remove the battery   does not solve the problems ).
Only i have this problem ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 20, 2015, 11:17:04 AM
One of you with old revision 70D (=which isn't supported) plz get in contact with me by PM.

Done!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: jakepetre on April 20, 2015, 11:30:52 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on April 20, 2015, 11:17:04 AM
One of you with old revision 70D (=which isn't supported) plz get in contact with me by PM.
I have the old version.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: gulnaz on April 20, 2015, 04:26:27 PM
how would i know my canon 70D is old ? my serial number is 154056007708
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: xsghost on April 20, 2015, 06:09:58 PM
Is there a way we could have these 2 paramount features working for the 70D also:
-Enable D-Pad to control WB and ISO while recording, like on the regular version of ML
-Display Rec Time and Remaning Rec Time on screen while recording, like on the old 2.3 ML?

I feel these 2 little things are what enables ML to transform the Canon DSLR into a powerful video camera. These are the places in which the Canon firmware lacks.
And I'm no programming savvy, but intuitively I feel these 2 issues, which were present and working on older ML versions, should be relatively easy to address in the 70D version. Right?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: mrpanda on April 21, 2015, 03:53:40 PM
salut,

j'ai suivi la vidéo et ça ne marche toujours pas :/

cela ne fait rien.
je sélectionne mise a jour et il installe  mais quand il revient à l'écran il ne se passe rien il me dit pas que magic lantern est installer et quand appuis sur la poubelle cela ne fait rien   

hi,

I followed the video and it still does not work: /

it does not matter .
I select update and installs but when he returns to the screen it nothing happens he not tell me that magic lantern is installed and when pressing on the garbage that does not matter
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: jakepetre on April 21, 2015, 05:38:42 PM
Quote from: mrpanda on April 21, 2015, 03:53:40 PM
salut,

j'ai suivi la vidéo et ça ne marche toujours pas :/

cela ne fait rien.
je sélectionne mise a jour et il installe  mais quand il revient à l'écran il ne se passe rien il me dit pas que magic lantern est installer et quand appuis sur la poubelle cela ne fait rien   

hi,

I followed the video and it still does not work: /

it does not matter .
I select update and installs but when he returns to the screen it nothing happens he not tell me that magic lantern is installed and when pressing on the garbage that does not matter

Bonjour, mis ton SD et utiliser le function: "Format Card" avant installation. Unzip ML sur ton SD et mis dans ton camera. Prends un photo avant installation.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: jakepetre on April 21, 2015, 05:41:36 PM
This is an update for everyone with a different firmware than the rest of us.
For users who are unable to install because they have an earlier camera unit: Nikki is working with a few of us on making an alternate firmware installer. So far nothing is functioning but we are close to having ML installed on all the 70D's that don't fit the existing criteria. Thank you for waiting patiently.
<<UPDATE>>
Binary for 111B is working! Now waiting for a working build! Big thanks to Nikki and a1ex for the progress!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Toni_m_m on April 21, 2015, 07:16:39 PM
I'm happy to tell all of you guys that Nikfreak and A1ex have done great job to get magic lantern to work on 70D version B. At this moment i have it running on my camera and testing that everything works. (http://s1.postimg.org/wlmq3adwv/11158044_904233996281331_1288797851_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: bsauce42 on April 21, 2015, 07:20:06 PM
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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: jakepetre on April 21, 2015, 07:30:47 PM
Quote from: Toni_m_m on April 21, 2015, 07:16:39 PM
I'm happy to tell all of you guys that Nikfreak and A1ex have done great job to get magic lantern to work on 70D version B. At this moment i have it running on my camera and testing that everything works. (http://s1.postimg.org/wlmq3adwv/11158044_904233996281331_1288797851_n.jpg)

I may have loaded the wrong build!  :-[ I'm getting a black screen whenever I turn on cam with the SD card in. If I remove the card and the battery and reinsert the battery without the card it turns on. HELP!
<<FIXED>>
Nikkifreak is amazing
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 21, 2015, 07:54:16 PM
Great you guys with 70D_111B hopefully will help me in creating some screenshots / videos with a build I am going to provide with you (soon). Especially with FPS override. So I expect you to stay active on the forums and help to solve some quirks which are left. It could be alittle bit time consuming but should be worth it...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UrbexJoe on April 21, 2015, 08:12:36 PM
I would happylie help testing with my old rev  B 70D :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: jakepetre on April 21, 2015, 08:27:25 PM
Build 'Nightly.2015Apr21.70D111B.zip' First impressions:

Overlays
-Zebras: OK
-Focus Peak: OK
-MagicZoom: OK
-Cropmarks: OK
-Ghost Image: OK - Auto Update a little buggy
-Spotmeter: OK
-False Color: OK
-Histogram: OK
-Waveform: OK
-Vectorscope: OK

Shoot
-Advanced Bracket: OK
-Intervalometer: OK
-Bulb Timer: OK
-Motion Detect: ?*
-Mirror Lockup: ?
-Flash Tweaks: ?

*?=Haven't tested yet

Main issue is whenever I'm navigating through the menu the camera likes to jump back into shooting mode.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 21, 2015, 08:28:25 PM
Quote from: UrbexJoe on April 21, 2015, 08:12:36 PM
I would happylie help testing with my old rev  B 70D :)


keep pressing F5. I am feeling like this:

done
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 21, 2015, 08:46:35 PM
Updated first post with download links and changelog.

Quote from: nikfreak on April 21, 2015, 07:54:16 PM
Great you guys with 70D_111B hopefully will help me in creating some screenshots / videos with a build I am going to provide with you (soon). Especially with FPS override. So I expect you to stay active on the forums and help to solve some quirks which are left. It could be alittle bit time consuming but should be worth it...

I want you to test FPS override function and take screenshot or video of how it acts. It's really weird and took me dozens of hours but I couldn't seem to find a fix for it. Timer B settles in correctly in

But only HighJello fastTv works as it should (using only timer A)

The other modes listed above create weird colors on screen. can you guys help to analyze what's going on? For e.g. in exact fps video mode I need to manually adjust timer A to get the desired FPS working. Starting at 23fps this is something around 732 (timer A) and as far as I recall I had to settle in something around 1192 for something around 15fps. FPs timer A can be adjusted by 100+ or - by pushing to left/right when focused on "shutter range value". It's really hard to describe but once you play around with it you will get what I mean. This is where I want you to help and note down when and how you get it to work. Posting a screenshot or a short video of the LCD output could be also helpful for the masters to understand what is going on.....

Note to myself: Disabling CONFIG_STATE_OBJECT_HOOKS or EVF_STATE(_SYNCH) doesn't help. FPS_UPDATE_FROM_EVF_STATE doesn't allow Timer B to settle in.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: UrbexJoe on April 21, 2015, 08:52:44 PM
You are my hero. I start testing asap. Danke fuer deinen Enthusiasmus und deine Arbeit!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 21, 2015, 08:55:23 PM
Just enjoy it @everybody. No hurry. There's so much to discover for all those new 70D_111B users now
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: pierre2fun on April 21, 2015, 09:14:31 PM
Nikfreak and the team have done an impressive job  8)

Here a 111B working ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: xsghost on April 21, 2015, 09:26:42 PM
How does one tell what 70D version he has?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 21, 2015, 09:30:45 PM
If your chosen ML version doesn't work it's the other one.
There is a new installer in development making life for 70D users (and others) much easier. That one will tell you what is going wrong. Yes, readable screen messages in case of failure.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 21, 2015, 09:41:23 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on April 21, 2015, 09:30:45 PM
There is a new installer in development making life for 70D users (and others) much easier. That one will tell you what is going wrong. Yes, readable screen messages in case of failure.

already available in the downloads . read changelog :P  8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 21, 2015, 09:52:29 PM
Unfair! Late start and now we're left behind! Unfair! ;-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 21, 2015, 09:56:25 PM
Hey I am just manually cherry picking (https://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-cherry-pick.html). Dunno how it's called for mercurial
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: janoschsimon on April 21, 2015, 10:21:54 PM
OHHHHHHHHH NIK may i kiss you? ITS WORKING ON OLD FIRMWARE :-) first i tried A and the install said wrong battery out then B and it works :D

HURRAYYYY
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 21, 2015, 10:45:20 PM
                  Hey There NikF & Friends

        Appears to be working on my Earlyish 70D as well ~ Haven't had time yet to do anything more than load it & launch it ~ Got so excited that I didn't even think about going through the process of taking a Pic & being on the INFO screen & It worked anyway ~ Wanted to get back here to give a Huge 3CHEERS & BigThanks to You Nik ~ I had Planned to Dub You ~ St Nik ~ @ this point but since I'm not real big on organized religions ~ How does SirNik sound ~
        Also ~ Huge 3CHEERS & BigThanks ~ to All Of Those who Helped You in this process Nik ~

                                                                                                                    ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 21, 2015, 11:03:49 PM
        Also ~ There is something very weird going on with this Forum that just started happening in the last 1/2Hr ~ If I try to access any of the 1st 13Pages using FireFox as the Browser I get a "PageNotFound" 404Error ~ In Opera (which is what I use as my DefaultBrowser) All is working JustFine ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: a1ex on April 21, 2015, 11:08:44 PM
@OlRivrRat: I (and probably others) have difficulties reading your posts. Can you try to use plain English?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Smarty Pants on April 22, 2015, 12:56:01 AM
the original cameras that worked with the 4b version appear to be version "A"

all seems to function fine so far.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 22, 2015, 04:58:10 AM
                  Alex

   Sure I can, just for You, but only because You & Your partners in crime have been so seemingly undaunted & unbelievably generous with Your time & Your wisdom & also because You asked so nicely.
   In defense, please allow me to explain that I choose to write the way I do, in internet conversations, in an attempt to make it feel more like a conversation as opposed to a letter to the editor. I use Caps & join words together for emphasis & use Tildes as breaks or pauses to keep the flow going more like I'm talking to You rather than typing @ You. Due to the 148IQ that I am afflicted with, (& I don't say that to brag as it really does seem like an affliction a lot of the time) I stopped ColoringBetweenTheLines about 62Yrs ago @ the age of 8 & upon graduating high school, 10Yrs later, chose to start doing things MyWay (except for the 4Yrs I spent in the USAF). @ 70 now I pretty much like to do as I please as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else or cause anyone any undue discomfort. So, again, yes I will try to use proper english here ~ But it SeemsSoBoring ~
   Again, Thank You & the rest of the ML Team for your fine work & Thanks from my 5D & 5DM2 & now my 70D, We are Happier due to YouGuys .

                                       ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: jakepetre on April 22, 2015, 05:13:14 AM
Been testing nonstop
Any way to have focus peaking work in conjunction with magic zoom?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: RafQue on April 22, 2015, 05:30:48 AM
YES!!!!  :D

The day after tomorrow I will be boarding for my trip to South Africa and I will be testing this like crazy!  8)
Thank you soooo much Nik & Alex and all others involved!!!
Just installed it on my 70D and everything works fine so far.
You really made my day/week!  ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Chele on April 22, 2015, 06:54:00 AM
How dare you take a fine working firmware, modify it to your perverted preferences and then MAKE IT BETTER!!!!

Thanks!!!!  I have one of the earlier 70D versions and was not able to use ML until now.  Thanks, thanks, and again, thanks.  Now I have to re-discover my camera.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: erno on April 22, 2015, 10:25:32 AM
Thank you! Nikfreak and Alex (also Nanomad and all the people who´s been working with this, this great thing). This will be the last thank you post from me because its far better now to provide the information through testing?!
This is nice to b-revision posse also and very happy day. 
(Thank you, Thank you, thank you!  :) )

Installed new firmware 111B on "old" 70D. Install works
Update
- managed to produce a raw video and the picture quality is awesome! [emoji3][emoji23][emoji24]

Just getting know this beast but so far so good in the beginners hands. Not muchs data for "professionals" yet or I would like to say that its steady for me. Laters with more "deeper" topics and perhaps more helpfull things for devs.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: chann on April 22, 2015, 10:33:33 AM
This question have been asked before but i did not see an answer. So here goes ..when upgrading firmware camera says memory card with firmware missing. How to overcome this? TQ
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Berrob on April 22, 2015, 10:53:59 AM
Installed new firmware 111B on old 70D.
Install works

FPS override does not work on anything below 24 FPS.

Overlays : ok

I get quite regular Error 70 when trying to shoot raw video.

Restart fixes this.

You are an awesome dudes NikFreak and Alex!!!

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 22, 2015, 12:17:39 PM
Quote from: Berrob on April 22, 2015, 10:53:59 AM
Installed new firmware 111B on old 70D.
Install works

FPS override does not work on anything below 24 FPS.
...

I get quite regular Error 70 when trying to shoot raw video.


Ya FPS override doesn't work for me too. I didn't expect 1 sentence as an answer to this (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg145586#msg145586). Better take some shots with your smartphone to show what's going on. Use the "Advanced" menu in FPS override. Play around with timer B. Changed the shutter range / timer B value? What's the output? Got weird colors on your LCD / touchscreen? How does the cam react? ...

Quoting myself again:
Quote
Starting at 23fps this is something around 732 (timer A) and as far as I recall I had to settle in something around 1192 for something around 15fps. FPs timer A can be adjusted by 100+ or - by pushing to left/right when focused on "shutter range value". It's really hard to describe but once you play around with it you will get what I mean.


Error 70? Be more specific please. How to reproduce? Any crash logs on sdcard? Any other 70D_111B owners being able to confirm this?

@all: please state your cam model when reporting bugs (70D_111A / 70D_111B) or this will end up in confusions. Let's try to avoid that. I really don't want to ask a mod to split this thread or even create and maintain a separate thread for each 70D model. Not at this stage...

@70D_111B owners: Please one of you post a stub-api test logfile. Check your debug menu to find it...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: mrpanda on April 22, 2015, 12:42:46 PM
Hello,
super I managed to install ml B version on my 70d

but in my ML no sound menu and how do you record video in RAW I not find the option in the video menu


Bonjour,
super j'ai réussi à installer ml version B sur mon 70d

mais dans mon ML il n'y a pas le menu son et comment on fait pour enregistrer en video RAW je trouve pas l'option dans le menu video
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: pierre2fun on April 22, 2015, 01:20:34 PM
OK. report on the way.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: janoschsimon on April 22, 2015, 01:27:29 PM
QuoteError 70? Be more specific please. How to reproduce? Any crash logs on sdcard? Any other 70D_111B owners being able to confirm this?


nope was yesterday evening so excited that i HAD to test raw :D and i tested raw and mlv raw and both without any error :-)

first i was shocked about auto iso :o but then i saw that i had the camera in P mode :D stupid me :D

have to test which resolution i can get with my Transcend Ultimate-Speed SDXC Class 10 UHS-1 64GB i get if remember correctly about 38mb/sec which is enough for 24p 720p continous raw yay D: but need to test more

ah and im on 70D_111B

the disapering menu is a little bit strange but still usable :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: aleixcastells on April 22, 2015, 02:19:58 PM
It works quite well. I recently made a video comparing the Raw recording in the Canon 70D versus the compressed video of the same camera. Here is the link for whoever is interested:

https://vimeo.com/125666437 (https://vimeo.com/125666437)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: ontheset on April 22, 2015, 03:25:05 PM
1st of all a huge thank you guys for the version B. I know how hard it is to work under forum conditions.

Now to my issues.

Everytime i'm in ML menu if i dont move the cursor it takes me out of menu.
the second one is that most of the time the bracketing and the info on the screen is all messed up until i half press the shutter button.
Now for this i dont know if its a usual thing but there is no way i can tell if have shot the raw file video until i put the card in my computer. Is there a way to fix that?
And finally and untill now is that when i try to run r2hdr.exe on windows7 it flashes the small window and nothing.

Thank you
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: erno on April 22, 2015, 03:28:25 PM
Mr Panda. Check out the video from YouTube called Magic Lantern on The Canon 70D and please operate after the video.  Theres not about sound but check that still out. Dont touch youre camera before video is ended. [emoji1].Worked best for me. I learned "all" the other things properly.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: masterhks on April 22, 2015, 04:10:01 PM
My canon 70D serial start 1130260... wich ML version is compatible for my 70D ... 111A or 111B? Tnx!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: janoschsimon on April 22, 2015, 04:14:13 PM
just try masterhks start with 111a and the installer will either install or tell you to use the other piece of cake :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: masterhks on April 22, 2015, 04:23:47 PM
Thx man this is my first time to install ML, do you ML spoil my camera if ML is not compatible ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: janoschsimon on April 22, 2015, 04:38:39 PM
take your time and read the first post when you do everything like its written nothing should be damaged im not aware of any broken cam but on the other hand you do everything on your own risk but as you can see lot of people had sucsses :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: jakepetre on April 22, 2015, 05:04:23 PM
Error 70 when using dual-ISO in photo mode: Battery pull fixes
Restarting turns off modules (They are automatically disabled during crashes)
Getting some funny colors in between power cycles.
Will provide crash log when I can.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 22, 2015, 05:05:51 PM
ok that could mean that I need to privide adtg_gui for 70D_111B. You guys would have to check the adtg registers.

Anyone else able to confirm dual_iso not working on 70D_111B???
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: jakepetre on April 22, 2015, 05:18:36 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on April 22, 2015, 05:05:51 PM
ok that could mean that I need to privide adtg_gui for 70D_111B. You guys would have to check the adtg registers.

Anyone else able to confirm dual_iso not working on 70D_111B???

Dual ISO does work...albeit it looks kinda funny for image review (maybe that's because I've never used ML before and am seeing everything for the first time). I had the Err 70 when reviewing images taken with dual ISO and trying to disable the Canon overlays by pressing 'Info' a few times. It's likely that I overwhelmed the camera by doing too much at once. After restarting I've noticed that when reviewing dual ISO images, they normally cycle every second from bright to dark, but slow down when scrolling through pictures.
My biggest issue with ML is how it automatically backs out of the 'Q' mode in any setting I select if I don't press any buttons for 5 seconds. I can navigate the main menu just fine, but every submenu is a trick to use. Example: Trash can > ML Main menu > Overlay > Focus Peak > Threshold > *Poof!* back to shooting mode. This doesn't happen all the time, but for some power cycles it's omnipresent.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 22, 2015, 05:45:13 PM
Quote from: jakepetre on April 22, 2015, 05:18:36 PM
My biggest issue with ML is how it automatically backs out of the 'Q' mode in any setting I select if I don't press any buttons for 5 seconds. I can navigate the main menu just fine, but every submenu is a trick to use. Example: Trash can > ML Main menu > Overlay > Focus Peak > Threshold > *Poof!* back to shooting mode. This doesn't happen all the time, but for some power cycles it's omnipresent.

1st post plz. scroll down to "what's not working". Follow the link there. Feel free to help fixing it or learn to live with it until it gets fixed for 6D / 70D...

Hint: Make your adjustments in photo mode (not Lv / movie). In photo mod eit doesn't disappear...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 22, 2015, 06:29:10 PM
            Won't be able to do much testing for a couple of days but so far have found that

1        "SET" button startup to avoid ML does not work for me. I reset buttons to DEFAULT & it still doesn't work.

2         If Start Up is done in Still Mode & then switched to LV or Video, the On Screen Level is frozen. If Start Up is done in LV or Video Mode the On Screen Level works fine.

                                                                                            ORR ~ DeanB ~ 70D+ML111B
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 22, 2015, 06:59:36 PM
        Correction for this - If Start Up is done in LV or Video Mode the On Screen Level works fine.

Should have said - If Start Up is done in Video Mode the On Screen Level works fine & continues to work fine if  I switch to LV.

                                                                                               ORR ~ DeanB ~ 70D+ML111B
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Makadamia on April 22, 2015, 07:40:05 PM
Nice, works on my 70D (70D 111 B) :)

Good work, looks very promising. Going to test now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: masterhks on April 22, 2015, 07:42:55 PM
do you like to tell me your first five number of your camera my start with 1136... i like to install ML on my camera but i dont know witch wersion 111A or 111B
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 22, 2015, 07:52:52 PM
Try any version. The wrong one will tell you to use the other one.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: mrochlin on April 22, 2015, 08:16:00 PM
Small note on the installation instructions:
It's a bit confusing that at the top it says
Download cr2hdr.exe compatible with 70D for Windows
Download cr2hdr compatible with 70D for Mac (thx N/A)

but a bit lower in the same post it offers:
Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111A or Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111B

From the Changelog, I think the installers listed at the top are what I want - and that they will automatically figure out whether I have the newer or older firmware version 70D.    I tried searching a couple of ways and could not find the serial number cut-off for older/newer.   It might be nice to add that to this post or to the change-log   remove the option to download an A or B version from the main announcement.

ALSO: I had my main PCB replaced in a warranty repair (last week).   So probably it has the newer firmware.  Since I can't find the serial # cutoff, I'm not sure if it had the newer firmware even before replacement.  Would the new installer look for the serial #  identify the firmware itself in someway.  Since my PCB is newer than the body there could be a mismatch.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: a1ex on April 22, 2015, 08:22:05 PM
There is no mention of "serial" in the first post. What's wrong with you, guys?!

Also:

Quote from: nikfreak on January 20, 2015, 04:57:37 PM
Just read the 1st post, accept what is written there and plz stop posting any serial numbers. They don't matter.

Quote from: Walter Schulz on April 22, 2015, 07:52:52 PM
Try any version. The wrong one will tell you to use the other one.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 22, 2015, 09:45:17 PM
                    Mrochlin

Download cr2hdr.exe compatible with 70D for Windows
Download cr2hdr compatible with 70D for Mac (thx N/A)

   Those are Links to Software you may need to handle Post Processing of shots acquired via certain ML Functionality ~


Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111A or Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111B

   Those are the Links that will get you ML for your 70D ~ If you don't know if your 70D has the Older or Newer Firmware

just download both 111A & 111B & try them ~ The Correct 1 will load & the incorrect 1 will not.

                           ORR ~ DeanB ~ 70D+ML111B
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: mrochlin on April 22, 2015, 10:18:46 PM
Thanks for the clarification.

A lot of people have been hoping/waiting for the 70D version and the work is really appreciated(!)

Since CanonRumors and some other sites sort of announced "ML Is Here!" for the 70d today, you may be getting others who haven't been following the 30 odd pages of posts here.   It was a little fuzzy to me that the chr2hdr executables were not the ML install and I thought the links further down were redundant.  Now I see the 70d_111A or B versions were the main ML code.   It might be clearer for newbies/referred folk like myself if
- The main installers were at the top of the post
- It was clarified that you just need to try both to see which works and that the only way to know if you have a 111A or 111B firmware camera (at the moment) is to try one or the other and see if you get a black screen.

Otherwise, people will naturally inquire which one they should download (if they haven't been reading the whole thread).   People are probably (like me) going to presume there's a serial # cut-off since Canon camera age follows with serial # and one firmware is older than the other.

Thank you (again) for the work.  I will read more of the forum posts before attempting any install.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: RickK on April 23, 2015, 01:59:43 AM
In reply to: "SET" button startup to avoid ML does not work for me. I reset buttons to DEFAULT & it still doesn't work.

I found the same except I am new to ML so not sure if I was doing it correctly. However, I accidently discovered that I can inactivate  by pressing SET when the camera has gone to sleep.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 23, 2015, 02:35:03 AM
Kudos Kudos Kudos to Nik & big bear hug for Alex for helping out to get 70D B up.
Just like the song "Loving every minute of it".

Here's my first observation, noting that for 1600x680 @ 2.35:1 at ISO > 100, hot pixels
being seen after about 10-15s into a video. At higher ISO they appear more frequently. 
Ive only got mlv_rec Mlv_play modules loaded. 

Added:  I never see any hot pixels in 1080p h264 video, or still raw/jpgs.   Since they
are not constant in location and increase over time, I think some canon correction program is not
running.

However at ISO 100 no hot pixels.  I tried it with Canon standard pic style, and Marvels 3.4. 

If you are ever in the Big Smoke "Toronto" area drinks on me ...

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 23, 2015, 02:46:04 AM
Thanks to @nikfreak as well as everyone else on board for releasing the B version...

https://vimeo.com/125748819 (https://vimeo.com/125748819)

More in-depth details to come...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 23, 2015, 05:36:00 AM
   Apporx' 30secs after startup, in Still Mode, the Red Activity LED starts Flashing every 4secs. If startup is done in Vid' Mode this dose not happen ~

                              ORR ~ DeanB ~ 70D+ML111B
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: chmteacher on April 23, 2015, 05:40:42 AM
Hi guys, long time follower but just registered. I've been using Alpha4b and wanted to upgrade to 5. I've read the first page of the thread a million times but just want to make sure all I have to do is delete the existing ML folder with autoexec.bat in root then extract the new zip to the SD card. I don't have to uninstall 4b first right? :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: chmteacher on April 23, 2015, 06:07:25 AM
I gave it a shot and just deleted trying 'b' version first. LCD did not display anything when turning it on which was pretty scary. Installed 'a' version and it worked.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: a1ex on April 23, 2015, 06:26:11 AM
Quote from: chmteacher on April 23, 2015, 06:07:25 AM
I gave it a shot and just deleted trying 'b' version first. LCD did not when turning it on which was pretty scary.

@nikfreak: you must include this in the B build, to avoid such issues:

-// TODO: add 70D_111B once found
+#define SIG_70D_111B 0xdd6f9eb3
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: inestima on April 23, 2015, 12:12:53 PM
@nikfreak

thanks for b rev!

Quote@70D_111B owners: Please one of you post a stub-api test logfile. Check your debug menu to find it...

do you still need these log files? do I need to do an fps video test before I run the log or no?

* pertaining to the forum: how do I quote people? I have no quote button at the top right of people's posts... I just have a list beneath my reply of the last 10 posts or so.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: kubodhi on April 23, 2015, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: inestima on April 23, 2015, 12:12:53 PM
* pertaining to the forum: how do I quote people? I have no quote button at the top right of people's posts... I just have a list beneath my reply of the last 10 posts or so.

Once you start your reply, below where you type your comment you'll see the recent posts on the thread, and each will have an "Insert Quote" button.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: inestima on April 23, 2015, 02:45:39 PM
Quote from: kubodhi on April 23, 2015, 02:31:32 PM
Once you start your reply, below where you type your comment you'll see the recent posts on the thread, and each will have an "Insert Quote" button.

So I can't quote earlier posts then?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 23, 2015, 02:56:45 PM
Quote from: inestima on April 23, 2015, 02:45:39 PM
So I can't quote earlier posts then?

You can but it's not a single-click action. You may have to use clipboard and mark copied text as quote. Finetuning (= link to the post quoted) has to be done manually.
You may ask why all this circumstances. It's because we had more than our share of full-quotes ...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: inestima on April 23, 2015, 04:13:41 PM
Thanks for the info @kubodhi and @walterschulz
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Conaxe on April 23, 2015, 05:58:28 PM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on April 23, 2015, 05:36:00 AM
   Apporx' 30secs after startup, in Still Mode, the Red Activity LED starts Flashing every 4secs. If startup is done in Vid' Mode this dose not happen ~

                              ORR ~ DeanB ~ 70D+ML111B
"B" version

having the same experience

And the same thing that was said about not pressing "Q" for +/- 5 seconds that ML menu disappears.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 06:01:32 PM
Quote from: inestima on April 23, 2015, 12:12:53 PM
...
do you still need these log files? do I need to do an fps video test before I run the log or no?

yes, I do. One user posted me yesterday a link on google drive but didn't allow me access to it the same time. On the other side: no one tried yet to see which stubs passed??
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: phengaris on April 23, 2015, 06:02:56 PM
Hey there!

First off all, thank you for your engagement to run ML on the 70D! I'm already enjoying it on my "old revision camera"!
But there are a few things I'd like to ask you.

First off all: The Canon interface isnt working properly. You'll see it in the attachments.

1. ML Interface (works damn fine!) :)
(http://i.imgur.com/37JABsB.jpg)

2. Canon Interface (some elements missing)
(http://i.imgur.com/eBudVxB.jpg)

3. Canon Interface after pressing the touchscreen on the spots where those elements should be.
(http://i.imgur.com/6DrMK5p.jpg)

Is that a commonly known problem?

The 2nd thing is about the FPS Override:
I tried several shots today (0,5; 2, and 10 FPS) - there were many lags in every take. Sometimes the recording stopped for some seconds and then it continued.

And the 3rd question for you is about the temperature.
When I was outside it was no problem, the temp of the camera was about 40°C (18°C outside, slightly windy and in the shadow)
I tried it again in my room. Made those pictures you see of my interface and filmed for 13mins on a tripod. So the camera was running for about 20 mins, and the temp rised to 55 - 59°C. Is this still normal? I shut off the cam because the temp sign turned red :)

Thanks in advance,

cheers,
phengaris
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 06:05:52 PM
Someone post stubs api logfile for 70D_111B plz
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: inestima on April 23, 2015, 06:39:04 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 06:05:52 PM
Someone post stubs api logfile for 70D_111B plz

The file is 1GB is that right? test.dat?

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 23, 2015, 06:58:05 PM
@nikfreak:

Here's the stub-api test log file from 70D_111B per your request...

https://mega.co.nz/#!ytV2TZRZ!TAWT6_BxO9alqpiJrzI36ddu1f79LWh2JAeXMpFF81w

Anyway here's what the Dual-ISO footage are looking like coming straight out of 70D_11B (Alpha 5):

https://vimeo.com/125819311 (https://vimeo.com/125819311)

In this particular clip which shows two regular MLV's and two Dual-ISO MLV's... kind of strange effects? Possible bug?

More testings to come...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: lojzik on April 23, 2015, 07:01:24 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 06:05:52 PM
Someone post stubs api logfile for 70D_111B plz
If I run stubs api test, it crashes

ASSERT: IsSuiteSignature( hSuite )
at ./PackMemory/PackMem.c:1115, task run_test
lv:0 mode:2

edit: my next test was without error
https://mega.co.nz/#!BUhx0JCA!fGJprVd0bNAzNXTc4lG5dSOkqoP0lsov4CuEuA1inMM
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Conaxe on April 23, 2015, 07:36:44 PM
Quote from: lojzik on April 23, 2015, 07:01:24 PM
If I run stubs api test, it crashes

ASSERT: IsSuiteSignature( hSuite )
at ./PackMemory/PackMem.c:1115, task run_test
lv:0 mode:2
Same here again

"Creating a 2gb file.  40/130"

Somewhere in the 40' while making those packages, screen went black and it shuts down by its own. No extra modules where installed. Just Plain alpha5
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 07:54:01 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on April 23, 2015, 06:58:05 PM
@nikfreak:

Here's the stub-api test log file from 70D_111B per your request...

https://mega.co.nz/#!ytV2TZRZ!TAWT6_BxO9alqpiJrzI36ddu1f79LWh2JAeXMpFF81w

Anyway here's what the Dual-ISO footage are looking like coming straight out of 70D_11B (Alpha 5):

https://vimeo.com/125819311 (https://vimeo.com/125819311)

In this particular clip which shows two regular MLV's and two Dual-ISO MLV's... kind of strange effects? Possible bug?

More testings to come...

Ok thanx for the stubs logfile. It contains 2 FAILS:


[FAIL] ABS((get_us_clock_value() - t0) - 310000) => 0x62d
[FAIL] MEM(dialog->type) => 0x414944


@a1ex which stubs could be wrong? regarding "ASSERT: IsSuiteSignature( hSuite ) I guess some memory / fio stub could be wrong. Would be nice if you could comment on this...

Regarding dualiso in video mode we need to recheck these with adtg_gui.mo:

FRAME_CMOS_ISO_START = 0x4045349a; // CMOS register 0000 - for LiveView, ISO 100 (check in movie mode, not photo!)
FRAME_CMOS_ISO_COUNT =          7; // from ISO 100 to 6400 (last real iso!)
FRAME_CMOS_ISO_SIZE  =         46; // distance between ISO 100 and ISO 200 addresses, in bytes


Please find attached a new buid for use with 70D_111B which contains adtg_gui module to check above CMOS register. Try to load adtg_gui.mo. Check CMOS 000 register and distance between ISO 100 and ISO 200 as seen above.
Download these nightlies and extract / overwrite to your sdcard to help checking FRAME_CMOS stuff for 70D_111B.

70D_111B (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRdUljZmZ3T25iWUE/view?usp=sharing)

Afterwards just redownload from 1st post and use that again.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: phengaris on April 23, 2015, 07:59:16 PM
Has someone an idea about my problems? Canon interface, FPS override or the temperature?
Do you need any more infos nikfreak?
Thank you,

cheers,
Phengaris
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 08:07:59 PM
FPS override is known to not working read through last pages of this thread to help noting down how and when it works. If that's nothing for you then stop using fps override. Temperature shown is not exact temperature. Your bug with canon interface pic2 looks interesting. How to reproduce exactly? I guess it happens due to:


[FAIL] MEM(dialog->type) => 0x414944
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 23, 2015, 08:12:11 PM
@nikfreak:

Just downloaded the new build per your request and overwrote it in SD card...

Went to Modules and there isn't a adtg_gui.mo enlisted?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 23, 2015, 08:14:26 PM
Ok Hot Pixels (not dead pixels) findings.
This seem to be related to three things.
1. Possible dirt - either sensor or lens.   If one is bold & careful clean the sensor.  Clean the lens, check if lens specific.
There is a sensor remap of hot/dead pixels trick which some have reported works for video for what cant be cleaned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJBuGhMnvFo

2. More hot pixels proportional to duration Liveview is on - some suggest the sensor is being cooked, and the hot pixels may become dead pixels if left on too long.  So one needs to take serious first sign of hot pixels, and try to resolve/clean up.
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1098707

3. Most observe that higher ISO means more hot pixels (via amplification) - But 70D has a high  ISO noise reduction, this is what I think may not be working 100% in rev B.  I will check it out more rigorously to see if different settings reduce it.
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-70d/canon-70dHI_ISO_NR.HTM

There a number of post processing fixes, but clearly one wants to remedy hot pixels to avoid them becoming dead pixels.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 08:18:23 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on April 23, 2015, 08:12:11 PM
@nikfreak:

Just downloaded the new build per your request and overwrote it in SD card...

Went to Modules and there isn't a adtg_gui.mo enlisted?

My fault:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRZEtadnRFUEdTc0U/view?usp=sharing

Check that!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: lojzik on April 23, 2015, 08:28:29 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 08:07:59 PM
Your bug with canon interface pic2 looks interesting. How to reproduce exactly? I guess it happens due to:

[FAIL] MEM(dialog->type) => 0x414944

I have problem with canon interface too.
start 70D(B) -> start LV -> [info] -> canon screen (ok)-> [info] -> canon screen with histogram (ok)-> [info] -> screen with level indicator (ok)-> [info] -> screen with missing elements
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: phengaris on April 23, 2015, 08:31:07 PM
Thanks for your answer.
Ok, I'll have a look a the FPS override issue.
Interesting. If there is smth we can do to fix the interface bug / or to help you by giving you any data just tell us.

cheers
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 08:32:56 PM
naaah going to check those dozen dialog / display stubs manually. Could take some minutes...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 08:39:40 PM
Found it:


/** Dialog API **/
NSTUB(0xFF4E20E0,  dialog_redraw)
NSTUB(0xFF393CDC,  dialog_set_property_str)

/** Dialog handlers **/
NSTUB(0xFF4E20E0 NoGo same as above  :P,  ErrCardForLVApp_handler)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 08:48:46 PM
Ok here is a new download for 70D_111B. better now? can you redo "Burn-in test - > Stubs api" and post the file here?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRWVlWM0hCSzllbGM/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 23, 2015, 08:49:50 PM
Should I use this one instead of the previous one you sent from earlier post above?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 08:50:52 PM
It's the same with adtg_gui just the stub avove fixed. Why not? if you didn't already find the COS register with the older download. The stubs api test with this new download should be ok. Just post the result plz.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: phengaris on April 23, 2015, 09:08:39 PM
Thank you nikfreak!
I just removed ML from my SD card and replaced it with the new version. Still this strange Canon-interface problem...
cheers,
Phengaris
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: a1ex on April 23, 2015, 09:10:52 PM
Quote
[FAIL] MEM(dialog->type) => 0x414944

When all else fails, look at the source code (and also at the comments).

;)

Indeed, this is why you get artifacts on Canon GUI. Without it, on 5D3 at least, it's completely unusable.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: lojzik on April 23, 2015, 09:11:43 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 08:48:46 PM
Ok here is a new download for 70D_111B. better now? can you redo "Burn-in test - > Stubs api" and post the file here?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRWVlWM0hCSzllbGM/view?usp=sharing
https://mega.co.nz/#!BUhx0JCA!fGJprVd0bNAzNXTc4lG5dSOkqoP0lsov4CuEuA1inMM
edit: https://mega.co.nz/#!1RB1zZJY!hnKLzFsj7iYLEagbxVdFRbNZcLmdBwvNF0MWI2iaNrk
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 09:32:54 PM
Ok let's try a new DLG_SIGNATURE  :P

70D_111B:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRdzRFaDFSZmMtVVU/view?usp=sharing

Download that and repost stubs-api log again plz. Better now?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: lojzik on April 23, 2015, 09:39:37 PM
stubs-api log: https://mega.nz/#!UdZEgC5T!V8wiKDQ2ERISyWJWJq8Mp8MBCOcJNnYQaaz8eQXgt8U
interface ok
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: phengaris on April 23, 2015, 09:46:57 PM
Thank you guys!!
I will give it another try tonight. What do you recommend to reinstall ML? Delete old files from card and put new ones on it or just replace the old ones without deleting them?
Cheers
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 09:57:21 PM
Ok, replaced download link in 1st post for 70D_111B with the new one. All 70D_111B owners download that and use it. Thx for posting the required logs. Next, let's get FPS override analyzed (read last pages to help)...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: MedicineMan4040 on April 23, 2015, 10:07:03 PM
Been enjoying ML on my 6D for almost two years it seems and no problems. NOW my 70D can be crowned Magic! Woohoo.
But I was an early early adopter.....please save me from reading the whole thread....but that is why there is a 111A and 111B correct?
Also is intervalometer working?
More importantlly, where is the donate button to say thanks via PayPal ????
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 10:09:13 PM
intervalometer works. Just try A or B. Installer will tell you what to do. Don't worry. Take a look at g3gg0's profile signature if you wanna help ML
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: phengaris on April 23, 2015, 10:13:52 PM
Interface works now.
I'm really impressed, thank you guys!!

Cheers,
phengaris
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: lojzik on April 23, 2015, 10:17:33 PM
2015Apr23.70D111B
problem in LV with level indicator in left upper corner on ML screen
start 70D -> LV -> ML screen, level indicator is changing -> [info] -> ... ->[info] ->ML screen, level indicator is static

edit: level indicator in corner (optionaly in center) works only if LV starts on ML screen.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: pierre2fun on April 23, 2015, 10:19:46 PM
Google Test form filled  8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 10:20:12 PM
Quote from: lojzik on April 23, 2015, 10:17:33 PM
2015Apr23.70D111B
problem in LV with level indicator in left upper corner on ML screen
start 70D -> LV -> ML screen, level indicator is changing -> [info] -> ... ->[info] ->ML screen, level indicator is static

have to look into that some time later. No idea atm. Someone on 70D_111A also reported electronic level to hang up exactly like you described. So applies for both.

@pierre2fun: too late. we passed the stubs test already.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: inestima on April 23, 2015, 10:23:50 PM
how to prevent crash from running stubs log?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 10:26:02 PM
read 1st post. Changelog!!! New downloaf for 70D_111B. use that. If it still crashes afterwards then prove it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: inestima on April 23, 2015, 10:28:01 PM
got it. last time I try to help out here.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chann on April 23, 2015, 10:30:23 PM
"when upgrading firmware camera says memory card with firmware missing" by chann

Answering my own Q. I thought cam was looking for eos 70d firmware. No firmware updates published on any Canon sites. To make ML work do as per intro pg just download and extract either one of the alpha 5 versions and see which works. Thanks guys
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: janoschsimon on April 23, 2015, 10:42:39 PM
works fine keep up the great work guys :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 23, 2015, 11:02:18 PM
@nikfreak:

Take 2 on stubs-api log per your request... which now says "Zero Fails"  8):

https://mega.co.nz/#!yssyTTyA!WgiDQu4tQLD0F92yIqavW0QY30Q9kGtAxcO4Cbpsq0I

Now let's conquer that creepy FPS bug!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: 0_W_L on April 24, 2015, 07:12:56 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 09:57:21 PM
Ok, replaced download link in 1st post for 70D_111B with the new one.
Сheck please - archive damaged.
Thank you for your work!

upd/ I'm sorry, I came across an older version of the archiver
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 24, 2015, 07:27:09 AM
Quote from: 0_W_L on April 24, 2015, 07:12:56 AMСheck please - archive damaged.

Just downloaded zip and extracted it without any problems.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: pierre2fun on April 24, 2015, 08:24:37 AM
OK,

Sub test now works with the last version 23april 70D_111B

https://mega.nz/#!wVFkTCSY!Fa5q-2Xmti50sG0ub9kLHNLte3DzbEBIgEugilqpoiM
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 24, 2015, 08:55:36 AM
@nikfreak:

Before I go ahead and convert Dual-ISO footage (cr2, dng, MLV) -- curious if @N/A was able to provide you a cr2hdr20bit binary for 70D?

Or is that already included in the cr2hdr binary from first post?

I plan on replacing these binaries within @Danne's cr2hdr-r and see if it'll be able to convert them.

To drag and drop via Terminal is rather slow and painful... I prefer GUI's.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 24, 2015, 09:04:15 AM
Yes both (Win + Mac) download on top of 1st page are 20bit-cr2hdr for 70D. You going to convert dualiso photos or video?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 24, 2015, 09:28:18 AM
I'm primarily a Mac user here.

Yes, both photos and videos.

I replaced the cr2hdr20bit binary with the cr2hdr binary (assuming this is actually 20bit) from the link on first post (Thanks @N/A) but it doesn't seem to convert them after using @Danne's cr2hdr-r app (could be an error on my part)?

Videos still shows blueish/pinkish random flickering during Dual-ISO but as for Photos they seem to come out normal (with lines) but need to convert them properly somehow.

https://vimeo.com/125883959 (https://vimeo.com/125883959)

Can't wait for the day to come when theres a 20bit binary for all cams!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: kalinifta89 on April 24, 2015, 10:20:58 AM
Certainly within the forum is the information I'm looking for but could not find it. What is the difference between 70D_111A and 70D_111B? Also during installation you must remove the bg and non-original batteries? Thank you.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 24, 2015, 10:29:20 AM
Perhaps there are two different versions of 70D (older/newer) as far as we know, right?

How about try both and see which one works for you?

Doesn't hurt to try...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 24, 2015, 11:21:19 AM
@DeafeyeJeydi: did you already check adtg_gui.mo (module)?

I requested to check FRAME_CMOS register earlier...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 24, 2015, 11:23:39 AM
Oh I assumed I did it already?

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg145923#msg145923

Or no?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 24, 2015, 11:25:56 AM
That was the stubs test.
When you load adtg_gui it will show-up on debug menu. Let me know if it shows up / activates and prints lots of stuff...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 24, 2015, 11:27:23 AM
also read this regading CMOS registers I want you to check...
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg145872#msg145872
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: winfel on April 24, 2015, 11:37:57 AM
Hey! I hope I write this at the right place. I'm experiencing an issue with Dual ISO on my 70D Revision B, Magic Lantern Alpha 5b (that one that fixed the display issues). It seems to be related to the cr2hdr process though. I am using it on a Mac with the specialized version for the 70d provided in the first post.

I tried a test shot from my balcony. A reference shot in ISO 100 looks right, then I took a dual ISO 100/1600. When I look at that file in Lightroom CC, I see both the ISO 100 version and the ISO 1600 version interlaced and they both seem to be okay, so what the cam produces seems to be good. When I then converted it into a dng using cr2hdr in the result all highlights are simply blown away and cannot be brought back in lightroom. All the bricks of the building in the picture are just gone. It more or less looks like only the ISO 1600 picture.

Am I doing something wrong? I tried Dual ISO with my 550d a while ago and did not have any problems with that. Since then I have updated to Lightroom CC. Might the DNG creation process be an issue here?

One more thing: During replay of the Dual ISO file in the camera, it indicates to be switching back and forth between "bright" and "dark". The images I am seeing though seem to be very much alike. None of those is eighther darker or brighter than the other.

All my files are here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dnoiuhnqanjcbha/AADccyx0pHU2IiZhBCofNkM2a?dl=0

Edit: Found out it works well in Lightroom 5 but does not in Lightroom 6, so I'm quite sure it is not a 70D issue but rather related to either Adobe or the cr2hdr tool.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: pierre2fun on April 24, 2015, 01:16:32 PM
QuoteThat was the stubs test.
When you load adtg_gui it will show-up on debug menu. Let me know if it shows up / activates and prints lots of stuff...

It works fine.
https://mega.nz/#!wUcjBCZA!z0ues1RClhaYK7jUtsmmLsHypNG0YceT-3JR2RF9CLw
https://mega.nz/#!YEMUyaDB!vWhDhaK_YQ7ajh3yMOWnHZUzfI8smTvE28W4cYFUnl0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: phengaris on April 24, 2015, 01:37:10 PM
Hey there,

I have another question concerning shooting in RAW.
I've read that the 70D output is throtteled down to 42mb/s. So it doesnt matter which SD card you're using, as long as it isnt under 42mb/s.
So when shooting raw @ 24fps the highest resolution you can choose is 1344x756? Am I right?

Thank you,
cheers,
Phengaris
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 24, 2015, 01:48:01 PM
Quote from: pierre2fun on April 24, 2015, 01:16:32 PM
It works fine.
https://mega.nz/#!wUcjBCZA!z0ues1RClhaYK7jUtsmmLsHypNG0YceT-3JR2RF9CLw
https://mega.nz/#!YEMUyaDB!vWhDhaK_YQ7ajh3yMOWnHZUzfI8smTvE28W4cYFUnl0


Please switch to movie mode and make a picture of CMOS 0000 at ISO 100. Press Q on activated ADTG registers module and it show you lots of results while in movie mode. Post also a screenshot of the liveview output of CMOS 0000 at ISO 100.

Can you confirm the following values for 70D_111B???
Quote
/* Movie Mode
        100 - 0x4045349a value (0x3)
        200 - 0x404534c8
        400 - 0x404534f6
        800 - 0x40453524
        1600 -0x40453552
        3200 -0x40453580
        6400 -0x40453ae value (0xdb) */
       
        is_70d = 1;   

        FRAME_CMOS_ISO_START = 0x4045349a; // CMOS register 0000 - for LiveView, ISO 100 (check in movie mode, not photo!)
        FRAME_CMOS_ISO_COUNT =          7; // from ISO 100 to 6400 (last real iso!)
        FRAME_CMOS_ISO_SIZE  =         46; // distance between ISO 100 and ISO 200 addresses, in bytes
       
        /* Photo Mode
        100 - 0x40451664 value (0x3)
        200 - 0x40451678
        400 - 0x4045168c
        800 - 0x404516a0
        1600 -0x404516b4
        3200 -0x404516c8
        6400 -0x404516dc value (0xdb)
        12800-0x404516dc value (0xdb) like ISO 6400 */
       
        PHOTO_CMOS_ISO_START = 0x40451664; // CMOS register 0000 - for photo mode, ISO 100
        PHOTO_CMOS_ISO_COUNT =          7; // from ISO 100 to 6400 (last real iso!)
        PHOTO_CMOS_ISO_SIZE  =         20; // distance between ISO 100 and ISO 200 addresses, in bytes
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: lojzik on April 24, 2015, 02:12:46 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on April 24, 2015, 01:48:01 PM
        6400 -0x40453ae value (0xdb) */
6400 - 0x404535ae

edit:
if I have LV in photo mode, I have in cmos[0]
100 - 40453666 value 0x27
next values are different too
what is wrong?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: grey on April 24, 2015, 02:50:19 PM
Quote from: phengaris on April 24, 2015, 01:37:10 PM
Hey there,

I have another question concerning shooting in RAW.
I've read that the 70D output is throtteled down to 42mb/s. So it doesnt matter which SD card you're using, as long as it isnt under 42mb/s.
So when shooting raw @ 24fps the highest resolution you can choose is 1344x756? Am I right?

Thank you,
cheers,
Phengaris

If you talking about continuous recording you are right. But often 12-14 is enought for one shot. I'm shoot at 1824*776 fot 12-14 sec. If you need more rec time reducing resolution it's only way. Or buy camera with CF slot.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: winfel on April 24, 2015, 03:48:29 PM
Answering on myself. I tried it in LR5 on another computer and the file is just great... trying it out at home again later. Must have been something I was doing wrong.

Edit: Found out it works well in Lightroom 5 but does not in Lightroom 6, so I'm quite sure it is not a 70D issue but rather related to either Adobe or the cr2hdr tool.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: camslide on April 24, 2015, 04:51:14 PM
I have noticed, that since flashing ML alpha5b on my 70D (old firmware), the card access LED ist flashing every ~4seconds thoug the camera is turned off.  Is this normal or is it a bug?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 24, 2015, 06:24:08 PM
@camslide: tried to remove your battery? if that didn't help just reset ML to defaults via settings and retry.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: oaydin on April 24, 2015, 07:47:37 PM
Not sure if anyone is having this problem, I downloaded and am using the latest Alpha5b (today 23rd April), on my 70D.

Whilst in the ML menu after press the delete button, the ML menu screen quits by itself and then go straight back in to the Live screen. This happens whilst in video mode, not picture mode. I should also point out i'm Manual mode too. 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: pierre2fun on April 24, 2015, 07:53:51 PM
QuoteCMOS 0000 at ISO 100

Hum.  I am a newbee there so don't know how.

In video mode (1000 / ISO100) results are swapping between this :
https://mega.nz/#!4RNQlDLQ!U3myvwog5cqgv-4ZEvwU9Kg3ednP_snO-rQk9i0HEnA

and this:

https://mega.nz/#!9JN1gYiK!S-6GR67NZsM0wka0Ifm_8Rp-xeP0wflbiiS3M5jwJaM
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 24, 2015, 07:56:19 PM
Quote from: oaydin on April 24, 2015, 07:47:37 PM
Not sure if anyone is having this problem,

You may want to read the first post in this thread ...
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 24, 2015, 08:02:10 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on April 24, 2015, 11:25:56 AM
That was the stubs test.
When you load adtg_gui it will show-up on debug menu. Let me know if it shows up / activates and prints lots of stuff...

Ah I thought it would be included in it, my bad -- However, I ran the stubs test again once more and got one failed. Not sure why?
https://vimeo.com/125934149 (https://vimeo.com/125934149)

Quote from: nikfreak on April 24, 2015, 11:27:23 AM
also read this regading CMOS registers I want you to check...
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg145872#msg145872

Ran through the ADTG registers and scrolled through the CMOS sections to try put it in playback mode... this is what I'm seeing (not sure if I'm doing this correctly though):
https://vimeo.com/125935098 (https://vimeo.com/125935098)


Is it not a good idea to use the shutter wheel to change it's info per how I did it via clip above?  :-X ::)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: BirdPics on April 24, 2015, 08:44:14 PM
Hey everyone,

I'm an avid wildlife photographer but only just came across this. As i'm not rich enough to start bricking cameras yet I'm going to hold off using the Alpha version for a while. But I would like to know what features and if Magic Lantern would benefit me as a wildlife photographer. If someone could quickly explain I'd be very grateful, thanks :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: camslide on April 24, 2015, 09:09:38 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on April 24, 2015, 06:24:08 PM
@camslide: tried to remove your battery? if that didn't help just reset ML to defaults via settings and retry.
One of both helped. Thank you!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 24, 2015, 09:43:11 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on April 24, 2015, 08:02:10 PM

Is it not a good idea to use the shutter wheel to change it's info per how I did it via clip above?  :-X ::)


DeafeyeJedi plz press Q button on all that activated / changed registered (those which have a green dot color). Pressing Q will set default values. Use your posted video to see and check also the default / initial videos before you changed each of those. Better do not play around like you did but anyways thanx for providing needed information.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: wpociej on April 24, 2015, 10:42:58 PM
I've installed the ML in my canon (rev. B) and ML live view does not work at all, nor any overlays in live view. No matter what I enable it sill only displays default canon live view menu. Am I missing something, or is that some kind of bug?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on April 24, 2015, 10:52:50 PM
On version A I recorded some raw and mlv. I then deleted the files on the computer and when I put the card back in I got a load of error messages about modules not loading.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 25, 2015, 01:37:37 AM
@nikfreak:

Okay ill try that in momentarily soon. Would I be screwed if I had accidentally changed (good thing I was recording myself otherwise)?

What was the exact info you needed that I supposedly provided?

Because my gut feeling was telling me that I didnt do this correctly...  :-\
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 25, 2015, 01:38:54 AM
Ok so I used a blower and manual cleaned the sensor (a few times).
Removed the VAF.  and set high ISO NR to strong.
I notice lots of hot pixels at ISO 3200, they start at about 10s then slowly increase but at around 22s there are lots.

ISO 800, no VAF, high ISO NR strong = no hot pixels.

So something about 1600+ &  ISO liveview being on longer, is causing hot pixels ... hmmm perhaps its temperature or noise???

My T3i in MLV_raw does not have this is issue.  800 ISO is too low.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 25, 2015, 02:29:02 AM
    70D+ML111B 23AprA5B  "SET" button startup to disable ML still is not working for me. Is anyone else encountering this? Am I possibly doing something incorrectly?

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 25, 2015, 08:24:09 AM
@DeafeyeJeydi: no panic.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10111.msg145989#msg145989

Got all infos needed from your video. if I need more I will shout it out.

Quote from: ShootMeAlready on April 25, 2015, 01:38:54 AM
I notice lots of hot pixels at ISO 3200, they start at about 10s then slowly increase but at around 22s there are lots.

Anyone else having the same issue above described by ShootMeAlready?

Quote from: OlRivrRat on April 25, 2015, 02:29:02 AM
    70D+ML111B 23AprA5B  "SET" button startup to disable ML still is not working for me. Is anyone else encountering this? Am I possibly doing something incorrectly?

Sounds like it's not working. i will check it. Works for me on 70D_111A. Recheck it plz. Power off cam. press set button and keep it pressed until sdcard led stops blinking (~2secs). This way it works for me...
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 25, 2015, 09:06:13 AM
@nikfreak:

Ya, saw that earlier right after I asked you about it. Good catch! [emoji108]

@OlRivrRat:

I'll try to duplicate the 'button startup to disable M' bug and check it out!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: MedicineMan4040 on April 25, 2015, 09:19:27 AM
BirdPics one thought for you.
Once I was on an island off s.Carolina doing bird photography. My problem was I needed to be in two places at one time.
With ML on my 6D I selected intervalometer, set up the camera/lens aimed at an osprey nest and let it click away hoping to catch the osprey returning with
a fish 'in hand'...meanwhile I'm at another location about a mile away actively imaging an eagle and eaglets on a nest.
So in this situation the beauty/utility ML gave me was an internal intervalometer so no need to connect anything, remember another cable or worry about batteries
in an external intervalometer.
You mentioned wildlife, so that goes beyond birds eh, so another area I love ML for is macro. The focus stack (though I can't remember what it is called in the ML menu, I'm at work and the 6D is at home) will allow when used with an auto-focus lens, the capture of many pics are various focal lengths of your macro subject that you can stack
in photoshop.
Just two uses among many many that ML offers.
I use the 70D solely for macro and astro now....and obviously am so looking forward to the intervalometer being internal with the 70D when I get the time for the install.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chann on April 25, 2015, 11:38:30 AM
wpociej

I've installed the ML in my canon (rev. B) and ML live view does not work at all, nor any overlays in live view. No matter what I enable it sill only displays default canon live view menu.

Try the info button. gd luck
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: wpociej on April 25, 2015, 11:59:45 AM
wpociej

I've installed the ML in my canon (rev. B) and ML live view does not work at all, nor any overlays in live view. No matter what I enable it sill only displays default canon live view menu.

Try the info button. gd luck


I've tried every possible button and nothing changes.. :/
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 25, 2015, 12:17:39 PM
Toggle through LV screen using INFO. Global Draw ON.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Carmona on April 25, 2015, 01:04:01 PM
Hey guys, first time using ML for me. Thank you Nikfreak and a1ex!
QuoteI notice lots of hot pixels at ISO 3200, they start at about 10s then slowly increase but at around 22s there are lots.
@nikfreak, same thing happend to me when shooting on ISO 3200. (using 2015Apr23.70D111B)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: BirdPics on April 25, 2015, 01:41:55 PM
@MedicineMan4040 

Thanks for the reply, that all sounds pretty interesting. I'm keen to try it out but what's the chances of breaking my camera at this point?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Canniballissimo on April 25, 2015, 02:59:52 PM
Friends, I have a problem. If I shoot RAW-video with a resolution 1824 * 1026, in the frame fit the entire image. If I shoot RAW-video at a lower resolution, the frame and the picture will fall circumcision. Tell me how to set that at different resolutions in the frame breaks the same thing?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 25, 2015, 03:38:24 PM
@NikFreak
Thanks for the Reply.
Made sure that Buttons are @ Default & tried again while holding Set Button as long as 20sec's - ML still Active. Not a Big Issue but would be nice to have. Understand if you want to fry bigger fish, like FPS Override.

@DeafeyeJeydi
Thanks to you also for the Reply.

                                                                                                                                          ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: aGill on April 25, 2015, 04:01:11 PM
@nikfreak - Anyone else having the same issue above described by ShootMeAlready?
(Quote from: ShootMeAlready
    I notice lots of hot pixels at ISO 3200, they start at about 10s then slowly increase but at around 22s there are lots.)

I got few hot pixels even at ISO 800 (RAW video 1792x762) with Alpha 4b:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHmjSHMsqBg

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 25, 2015, 07:20:53 PM
aGill  like your video, good focus through out. Your 800 ISO looks like my 1600 ISO. 
Yours is usable as I saw only 2 pixels, was wondering how many frames you got at 1792x792 per clip, 
I was getting about 400 frames before skip and then only 1-2 hotpixels at IS0 1600.

I tried the pixel remap, trick.  I am using high ISO NR = strong.    You may want to try those to see if helps. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJBuGhMnvFo

Next step is to buy the pen sensor cleaning kit. 
Will try to clean lens & try more fast glass (so far I have tried sigma 18-35 f1.8, 50-150 f2.8 ).

FYI: using Sandisk extreme pro 32GB card with 95Mb/s read/ 90MB/s write.
1824 x 776 @ 2.35 / 24fps got 14s.  Which is max res. (90% of 1920 @ 2.35)and totally usable for master shot pans, as typically pans at most is 10s. Wow!
1792x762 @ 2.35 /24fps   got 16s.  Good for pans.  Probably very usable for most dialogue shots.
1728x736 @ 2.35 /24fps   got 22s. Good for dialogue.  Rarely does one talk for 22s without need for a cut.
1600 x 680 @ 2.35 / 24fps got 62s.  Good for extended scenes. Wow!  This pretty much continuous for my purposes, as I never shoot past 30s. 
When tried 1792 with 2.39 aspect ratio only added less than 2 seconds.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Aaberg on April 25, 2015, 07:31:30 PM
Quote70D+ML111B 23AprA5B  "SET" button startup to disable ML still is not working for me. Is anyone else encountering this? Am I possibly doing something incorrectly?

I'm running the same version. I had to set the "SET" button to "Off" in Custom Controls. After that it worked for me.

Issue I've run in to: I can't seem to get the intervalometer working together with Full Res Silent Picture module. Both work on their own, but not together. It might be down to user error though.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 25, 2015, 08:00:31 PM
@Aaberg

"I had to set the "SET" button to "Off" in Custom Controls."

       Thanks for the reply ~ My "SET" button is set to "Off" in Custom Controls ~ Issue persists.

                                                                                                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bigorna on April 25, 2015, 08:56:47 PM
Pressing "SET" during start up wasn´t working also.
After setting "SET" to OFF, now I can boot without ML. Thanks for the tip.
Running 23AprA5B.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: pierre2fun on April 25, 2015, 09:19:22 PM
Next is

https://mega.nz/#!4Y10QIzY!HOjQ3oL-0ME0f9btRTQ-O7WISBXxGncQuejv2fivCU8
https://mega.nz/#!4c9TSJaR!AfzNHvR8ofceLHIX-1UFjgEZVsBQUmwzfKIAswW-CKk
https://mega.nz/#!gU0GnDrJ!hYeuc9cVZhVG6Owjgtiw31iFbjnWocipxzFZq1SqIfU
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on April 25, 2015, 11:03:49 PM
Rev.A

I got error 70 when I went to play back some raw footage (mlv). I had both raw and h.264 on the card already. Haven't had this happen before.
This probably isn't helpful.  :-\
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Toni_m_m on April 25, 2015, 11:31:03 PM
@nikfreak

Why is follow focus disabled? I did enable follow focus and rack focus and follow focus seems to work perfectly. rack focus will crash shortly after using.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: scottbastedo on April 25, 2015, 11:38:19 PM
How do I change the bitrate? I can't find it in the menus, and I've tried searching through this sub-forum to no avail. Do I have to enable something???
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 26, 2015, 12:54:03 AM
*feedbacks*

Here are some clips of RAW/MLV shot in ISO 800, ISO 1600 for hot pixels comparisons as well as MLV/RAW Dual-ISO still not being able to convert (apparently it works fine for Dual-ISO CR2 files):

https://vimeo.com/126014706 (https://vimeo.com/126014706)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 26, 2015, 04:02:16 AM
DefEye it seems you are seeing hot pixels at ISO 800 & 1600 as well.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chrisfrancia on April 26, 2015, 05:23:20 AM
Bug Report: Alpha5b Version (Most recent release on most recently supported camera)

MLV DNG Files
DNG file sequences extracted from MLV files do not open in any adobe program, error is "module could not parse file", Raw works, MLRawviewer allows export as .mov which works.

Red Dead Pixel
Stuck red pixel (same place) in all raw video above about 400 iso, it gets more noticeable as iso increases, may even be there but hard to see at 100 iso. Pixel is not in non raw video

Arrow Key Functions
Setting the arrow and set keys to do anything (kelvin/iso + white balance or brightness/saturation +reset) does not function. I attempted changing my keys to set to nothing, however i did not try setting to default or turning off the camera after i changed the settings so if they are working for someone else please tell me what your canon setting is and i will attempt.

Audio Bars
Audio bars are only visible if global draw is turned off, no menu option to turn them on

Movie Servo
There is a icon in the lower left of the screen when movie servo is turned on (in vanilla firmware) that is gone and was quite useful to switch between auto and manual focus without having to flick the lens switch during and before recording

Raw Video Recording
Exposure settings cannot be changed when recording raw video, is this a bug or a nuance?

also this is prob not the place to write this one but it would be super useful if all camera settings (iso/framerate/fstop/shutter/whitebal etc.) could be written to a single frame in raw video, or just even a log like is possible for h264 video]

also my set button previously would disable ML but no longer does this function either

I also wish the ML menu would open to the favorites menu or last place I was in after a restart
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: janoschsimon on April 26, 2015, 11:16:17 AM
hey there i got error 70 2 times when i tried higher resolutions and the mlv modul told me that a frame was skipped and stopped the recording hope that helps :-)

latest build on a Transcend Ultimate-Speed SDXC Class 10 UHS-1 64GB

cheers janosch
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on April 26, 2015, 01:11:54 PM
Got a few more crashes still just error 70. I'm using rev. A. There isn't one particular thing that I do to get the error all I can think of it is something to do with mlv.

These are the crash logs.
https://mega.nz/#F!71gyjZ7Q!cRrQ-DRur02tLFJKru5aBw
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 26, 2015, 01:38:46 PM
Quote from: Frarike on April 26, 2015, 01:11:54 PM
Got a few more crashes still just error 70. I'm using rev. A. There isn't one particular thing that I do to get the error all I can think of it is something to do with mlv.

These are the crash logs.
https://mega.nz/#F!71gyjZ7Q!cRrQ-DRur02tLFJKru5aBw

Audio during recording (MLV) is not yet supported by me. I must admit I got crashes myself weeks ago while trying it out once during mlv recording. So for now disable all audio related features / modules and you should be fine. ofc I will have a look into the issue but atm I am not doing any raw related stuff myself. You may ask yourself why the downloads contain mlv_snd module etc.? Cause it's the default when compiling from source. I didn't excplicitely exclude them. I recommend you to chose raw_rec instead of MLV for now. If you still get those crashes post them here again.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: true on April 26, 2015, 02:05:49 PM
https://vimeo.com/126037672

Ma first Raw test. THX
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: janoschsimon on April 26, 2015, 03:52:27 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on April 26, 2015, 01:38:46 PM
Audio during recording (MLV) is not yet supported by me. I must admit I got crashes myself weeks ago while trying it out once during mlv recording. So for now disable all audio related features / modules and you should be fine. ofc I will have a look into the issue but atm I am not doing any raw related stuff myself. You may ask yourself why the downloads contain mlv_snd module etc.? Cause it's the default when compiling from source. I didn't excplicitely exclude them. I recommend you to chose raw_rec instead of MLV for now. If you still get those crashes post them here again.

ahhhhh i think i just ticked mlv sound :D will try without mlv sound if it then works :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 26, 2015, 05:21:49 PM
      On Screen Level, Freeze Issue, again ~

        If I access the ML Menu while in Vid' Mode or Stills Mode, Live View or ELV, the On Screen Level Freezes & Cam' needs to be Restated to get it back.

      Also ~

   "SET" button startup to disable ML still is not working for me. All Buttons are Set to Default. Even tried Resetting Buttons To Default with ML Uninstalled

then Reinstalled ML & No Change.

   I know these aren't important issues, just providing feedback.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB ~ 70D+ML111B
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 26, 2015, 10:08:16 PM
can you justify to reset cam via Canon menu to defaults and retry the whole installation with a fresh formatted card? I just think there's something wrong with your settings cause it works for me on 70D_111A. I don't think the codes for set button   (https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/src/5df522afc74d5b19345d5acb792cff7eded9b1ff/platform/70D.111B/gui.h?at=70D-merge#cl-18) could be wrong. You can check that yourself for PRESS and UNPRESS by setting a 300ms delay in debug menu. Check:

Show GUI evts

OFF
ON

ON - delay 300ms

Let me know your results.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 27, 2015, 02:38:17 AM
                            @NikFreak

Not sure I correctly understand what info your looking for but this is what happens after

       Show GUI evts

       ON - delay 300ms

            Is selected

   On SetButton   Press =      Ev15: p=      54 *0=
                                     Ev16: p=        4 *0=

         Unpress =   Ev17: p=        5 *0=

        I did an ML Uninstall, then Full Reset of Cam' settings, then Format of Card, then Reload of ML on Card, then Install of ML on Cam'

& SetButton StartUp Still leaves ML Active. Me thinks it just doesn't like me. I'm thinking that @ some point in the future it will decide

that it has messed with me enough & it will mysteriously just start working.

        I,m totally unfirmiliar with the "BelowGround" stuff but if there is other info you want , let me know & I'll try to find my way around

down there in the Dark.

        Thanks again for efforts ~

                                                                                                           ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 27, 2015, 07:47:58 AM
Thanx for your info. The button events are ok (4 and 5). I guess I can't do much atm to solve your problem but you can carry a second scard with you for the times where you don't want to startup ML. That will work.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bsauce42 on April 27, 2015, 07:49:12 AM
Works fine on "B"[emoji108]
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 27, 2015, 08:35:44 AM
*feedbacks*

I just decided to take a quick run through with MLV footage shot on 70D_111B (alpha5b 23rd April) and added Cinelog-C log with REC709 applied within AE (Special Thanks to @Andy600) just for viewing taste.

70D, EF-S 10-18mm STM, 1/50, f4.5, ISO 800 @ 10mm
Shot in 1728 x 972 @ 23.983 FPS:
https://vimeo.com/126097329 (https://vimeo.com/126097329)


Here's the workflow of how I used the Cinelog-C in AE:
https://vimeo.com/126098237 (https://vimeo.com/126098237)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: RickK on April 27, 2015, 02:30:19 PM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on April 26, 2015, 05:21:49 PM
      On Screen Level, Freeze Issue, again ~

       

   "SET" button startup to disable ML still is not working for me. All Buttons are Set to Default. Even tried Resetting Buttons To Default with ML Uninstalled

then Reinstalled ML & No Change.


I am having the same issue with the SET button not working to disable ML_A on startup. Since not everyone has this issue, could it be ML version or Canon firmware specific?

                                 
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 27, 2015, 06:01:40 PM
Is there a specific reason why you guys want to get this SET button to disable ML at startup -- I mean who doesn't want to use ML?

Unless I'm missing a valid point in this never ending so called prodigy!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chrisfrancia on April 27, 2015, 06:05:48 PM
Personally I don't care if the set button doesn't disable ML on boot or not however, it still pays to figure out why it isn't working because other things may not work for the same reason (push white balance with set button)
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 27, 2015, 06:11:19 PM
True. I second that and also still wating for a fix to be able to use Arrow Key functions (there's no buttons configured to enabled it) as well as being able to change exposures during RAW video recording. Hopefully that's not the limitation of the 70D.

I also agree w @chrisfrancia regarding being able to use log files after recording Raw video (however, you can still dive into its metadata if recorded in MLV) but still would be a +1 for Raw.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 27, 2015, 07:51:09 PM
@chrisfrancia

@DeafEyeJedi

   SetButtonStart ~ Agreed & I'll 3rd that. Is it possible that there are 3 Versions of FW111 for Our 70Ds? Or is it possible

that it is SDCard Response Time Related ~ Since ML resides on the Card & this Command is required Immediately @Start?

All I have are Transcend 90MB/s 600X Cards but I have a friend with some fast LexarPros ~ I might give that a try.

   Also ~ Is anyone else having the Level Indicator LockUp issue ~

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 27, 2015, 08:00:12 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on April 27, 2015, 06:01:40 PM
Is there a specific reason why you guys want to get this SET button to disable ML at startup....


Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on April 27, 2015, 06:11:19 PM
True. I second that and also still wating for a fix to be able to use Arrow Key functions (there's no buttons configured to enabled it) as well as being able to change exposures during RAW video recording. Hopefully that's not the limitation of the 70D.

I also agree w @chrisfrancia regarding being able to use log files after recording Raw video (however, you can still dive into its metadata if recorded in MLV) but still would be a +1 for Raw.
w00t I thought I fixed that - at least it was working then. I need to recheck that:

https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/commits/aa943650a918e874a75d284a9e00d84d285d8bc2?at=70D-merge

::) :o 8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on April 27, 2015, 10:08:56 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on April 27, 2015, 06:11:19 PM
and also still wating for a fix to be able to use Arrow Key functions (there's no buttons configured to enabled it)

Yeah, using those arrow key functions would be great. those are the only reason us videographers are using ML on DSLRs, to overcome their shortcomings and turn them into proper video cameras.
Those other features of ML are cute and all, but come on, I want to be able to control the camera settings while recording.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: skanter on April 27, 2015, 10:44:02 PM
Just started using  version 111B, all going well so far.

First (probably obvious) question: how do you get ML menu to stay on without switching back to LV screen after a few seconds? I could not find a setting for this.

Thanks in advance...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Conaxe on April 27, 2015, 11:05:22 PM
Quote from: skanter on April 27, 2015, 10:44:02 PM
Just started using  version 111B, all going well so far.

First (probably obvious) question: how do you get ML menu to stay on without switching back to LV screen after a few seconds? I could not find a setting for this.

Thanks in advance...
Pressing info on canon menu then switching to ML, worked for me.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: FonzeGator on April 28, 2015, 02:21:56 AM
Hey all,

I'm new to ML and just did a couple of test with RAW video. Am very amazed!
Was able to get about 7 seconds of recording at max res with 24fps, on my Sandisk Extreme Pro.

So just wondering, do you think that when a more stable ML version is released in the future, we would be able to shoot at full 1080p RAW for the 70D? Or will the recording time be increased for RAW video? Is this even possible?
Sorry guys, I'm new to RAW  :P :D

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 28, 2015, 02:29:06 AM
   SetButtonStart Issue Solved ~ Turned out to be a Firm-Awareness quirk ~ If I Depress & Hold the SetButton with the Meat

of my thumb, which is how I normally Press It, ML would still be active. If I Depress & Hold the SetButton with my ThumbNail the

Cam' Starts up with ML Inactive. My apologies to all who Wasted Time on solving MyProb'.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chrisfrancia on April 28, 2015, 03:54:31 AM
I confirm that using the thumbnail works for me.

Through my testing I also discovered if you are booting the camera into photo mode and have your set button programmed to "iso" or "flash exposure compensation" then ML will not be disabled, if you have the button set to any of the other canon features then it will successfully disable ML

If set to "flash exposure compensation" and booting to video mode ML can be disabled.

If set to "ISO", ML cannot be disabled

This may explain misleading reports as well as the meaty finger issue
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 28, 2015, 04:10:15 AM
Ok so I tried to test the max res at 24 fps.

I put it in 1280p @ 60 fps ALL-I.  Loaded raw movie to res. 1920 @ 2.35 aspect, and dialed fps to 23.9. Zoomed to X5 (which I think is only X3 in reality from what Ive read).

Recorded movie, and it went biserk. The frame rate altered between 23.9 & 60 fps (canon default) and the picture was very unstable flashing purples/static/slow mo/pixelation etc.

The interesting part was I was able to shoot at a 1920x818, in agreement with the 2.35 aspect I had set!!!  So there is some hope, if we can get the fps & pic stable.

Upon retest it looks like the 5X zoom dies / freezes within a second, even before one hits record.  If you put it in 1280p @ 60 fps IPB, ML expects it to be shoot and select 1920 raw, ML reports it should shoot continuous which is a bug as well.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: RickK on April 28, 2015, 05:02:01 AM
One more piece of the SetButtonStart Issue puzzle. I set the SET button to OFF, but ML would still start when I pressed SET while starting the camera. I discovered that I had the camera set to Auto ISO and this would automatically return the SET button setting to ISO and so disable ML wouldn't work. When I set the camera to a specific ISO and then turned the SET button to OFF, I was now able to disable ML on starting the camera. This could explain the sporadic nature of this issue.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: austux on April 28, 2015, 05:18:24 AM
Is it possible for Magic Lantern to turn off (or raise, past maybe two hours) the 29min59sec firmware limit on video recording length in the 70D?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 28, 2015, 06:46:19 AM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14644
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 28, 2015, 08:16:39 AM
@Austux

        Glad you brought that up. I just tested on mine & it stopped @ 29:59

@Walter Schulz

        There is no mention of the 70D @ http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14644. So maybe a simple Not Yet might have been nice.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 28, 2015, 08:56:36 AM
You missed to mention if you used H.264 or RAW recording.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bredy on April 28, 2015, 04:44:38 PM
Rev. 111B

Is it nornal that in liveview when I press half shutter button or af-on button the canon date is upper the ML date screen?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bredy on April 28, 2015, 05:31:04 PM
Quote from: skanter on April 27, 2015, 10:44:02 PM
Just started using  version 111B, all going well so far.

First (probably obvious) question: how do you get ML menu to stay on without switching back to LV screen after a few seconds? I could not find a setting for this.

Thanks in advance...

I have the same question. If I am on Video Mode or LiveView, the ML Menù escape after 5 second.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 28, 2015, 05:57:06 PM
@ Walter Schulz

H.264    & I have Movie Restart On ( It was 1 of the many items I turned on on my 1st trip through the ML Menu)  ~ 

70D+ML111B
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 28, 2015, 06:21:32 PM
You may want to point out what is wrong in linked text/thread, so I might be able to add your corrections into my post.

EDIT: Saw your "Movie Restart ON" edit. You used 1080p25 PAL? Have you tried MLV with fps turned to a low value?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 28, 2015, 06:48:07 PM
Quote from: bredy on April 28, 2015, 04:44:38 PM
Rev. 111B

Is it nornal that in liveview when I press half shutter button or af-on button the canon date is upper the ML date screen?

yes, same on 6D. We are only able to hide it while using wheel (keyword: UNAVI).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 28, 2015, 08:07:09 PM
@Walter Schulz

   Austux asked ~

"Is it possible for Magic Lantern to turn off (or raise, past maybe two hours) the 29min59sec firmware limit on video recording length in the 70D?"

   & it appeared that you responded with ~

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14644

   I was curious about the link so I went there & found no reference to the 70D. So was trying to point out that it didn't seem that you had

properly answered Austuxs question.

   I then decided to test MovieRestart on my 70D & found that it does not seem to be Working as the Vid' Stopped @ 29:59.

   So here is My version of the question ~ Is Movie Restart supposed to be Working on the 70D-111 A &/or B?

                                 ORR ~ DeanB

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bredy on April 28, 2015, 08:21:08 PM
@OlRivrRat
I have the 70D-111B and the movie not restart after 29:59.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bredy on April 28, 2015, 08:35:01 PM
what means (keyword:UNAVI)?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Smarty Pants on April 29, 2015, 02:22:39 AM
ok slightly off topic to this ML version but is related  (and not answered on the 1st post)

in the UK we use PAL aka 1080p/720p 25fps
in the US they use NTSC 30fps
(forget 29.97 and 24 etc i'm talking 70D here)

The 70D will not go lower than 1/30 in movie so it's obviously designed for NTSC with a pull down arrangement added for PAL

My question: would we in PAL regions not be better to shoot in NTSC 30fps with 1/30th sec shutter and then pulldown in AE/Premier etc?
I ask as we can get RAW 720p 25 or 30 within SD bandwidth
Even further would be, if shooting for the web why not just stay in a 30fps / 1/30th workflow all the way? (with i7s and SSDs the days of cutting every unneeded frame and Hz aren't worth it any more plus HD means PictureAlwaysLousy and NeverTheSameColour is really all it means now)

anyone done much testing?I ask as is there any point in keeping any PAL/25fps ML settings in a camera that won't shoot at 1/25 or 1/50 etc anyway?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chrisfrancia on April 29, 2015, 06:36:14 AM
@Smarty Pants,

To start to answer your questions I feel it necessary to correct a problem with your selecting of shutter speed. The rule of thumb for shutter speed is double the reciprocal. So for 30 fps the shutter speed would be 1/60. For 25fps the shutter speed would be 1/50 (or closest available option on camera). This is why the 70D shutter will not go under 1/30 in movie mode, not because of a NTSC design (although I can't say for sure the camera is or is not geared toward NTSC)

I also believe, youtube previously converted basically anything that was not 30fps to 30fps itself

As for your actual question,
I believe it is mostly personal preference, if you shoot all your stuff at 25fps you would be able to put your stuff on DVD's and stuff in PAL land and get a almost filmic look on youtube. I believe.

It's mostly a matter of preference as far as I know. After all films are/were typically 24fps but eventually ended up on TV's and other mediums so they ended up being turned into 30fps and look fine so it would be acceptable for you to do the same. However, if you find this 'style', 'jitter', or what not bothers you then technically your best bet is likely 30fps for youtube, even in PAL land, as far as I know.

You should edit and export at whatever framerate you shoot at for youtube. However, you should de-interlace if you happen to be using an interlaced camera (not in the 70D case).

This page will help you.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/1722171?hl=en

(Also if the camera is shooting at 29.97, 24.97, or 23.976, you should not round these frame rates off as you will slowly build an audio desync)

Also should discuss this else where as has hardly anything to do with magic lantern in any way
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bredy on April 29, 2015, 09:05:57 AM
rev. 111B

In Live View if I press the Zoom In button the image on display freeze, I try to turn off the camera but the image don't close. The only solution is to pull out the battery.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 29, 2015, 11:15:55 AM
*feedbacks*

70D111B Dual-ISO CR2's converted to DNG's is now finally readable in Adobe... Mad Props to @Danne for the command script!

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7662/17121751698_548f2675af.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/s5Zsgu)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7693/17122114400_43d5fcd7cb.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/s62j5Y)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7719/17283574236_6e0f2b14ed.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/skhQtf)

https://vimeo.com/126356593 (https://vimeo.com/126356593)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bredy on April 29, 2015, 04:25:00 PM
rev. 70d-111B

Cropmarks--- Ok in Live View, but in menù ML the cropmarks image are not good.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8787/17104378207_1c8b7220ac_s.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/s4spJx)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 29, 2015, 04:52:07 PM
70D.111A and 70D.111B can contribute following this guide:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12375.0

and post in that thread (not in this thread) the vram dumps for 70D.111A and 70D.111B as instructed per above link.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 29, 2015, 06:02:15 PM
                @Bredy

        LiveView Zooming is working Fine on my 111B ~ However, after returning to No Zoom the Level Indicator is Frozen.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 29, 2015, 06:28:35 PM
                @DeadEyeJedi

        "70D111B Dual-ISO CR2's converted to DNG's is now finally readable in Adobe... Mad Props to @Danne!!!"

        For those of us who may be in the dark as to what & who you are referring to here (which may only be me), would you Be So Kind as to

Enlighten Us/Me just a bit ~ Or provide a link to more info ~ Please & Thank You ~
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 29, 2015, 06:29:52 PM
Are you trying to convert Dual-ISO photos (cr2) from 70D, correct?

You on PC or Mac?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bredy on April 29, 2015, 06:34:51 PM
I use the standard setting of Canon 70D, magic zoom not active on ML. Every time I press this button I ave the same problem.

Here the crash log:
ASSERT: err == SUCCESS
at GUI.c:684, task PropMgr
lv:1 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015Apr23.70D111B
Mercurial changeset   : 1ace8a558a3a+ (70D-merge) tip
Built on 2015-04-23 19:29:50 UTC by ml@ml-pc.
Free Memory  : 170K + 1565K

ASSERT: err == SUCCESS
at GUI.c:684, task MainCtrl
lv:1 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015Apr23.70D111B
Mercurial changeset   : 1ace8a558a3a+ (70D-merge) tip
Built on 2015-04-23 19:29:50 UTC by ml@ml-pc.
Free Memory  : 170K + 1561K

ASSERT: err == SUCCESS
at GUI.c:684, task notifybox_task
lv:1 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015Apr23.70D111B
Mercurial changeset   : 1ace8a558a3a+ (70D-merge) tip
Built on 2015-04-23 19:29:50 UTC by ml@ml-pc.
Free Memory  : 170K + 1556K

If Magic Zoom is active no problem if i press the zoomin button.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: garrieta on April 29, 2015, 09:03:19 PM

I just want to know how to record a raw canon 70d firmware version B, ML is installed but not recorded in raw look like, thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 29, 2015, 09:05:06 PM
@DeafEyeJedi

"Are you trying to convert Dual-ISO photos (cr2) from 70D, correct?"        =    Yes

"You on PC or Mac?"        =    MacPro
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 30, 2015, 01:32:00 AM
@OlRivrRat:

You can try @Danne's latest cr2hdr-r (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13512.msg146326#msg146326cr2hdr-r) beta app which works well on Mac's.

Be sure to read through that thread thoroughly!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: masterhks on April 30, 2015, 04:03:24 AM
What is the maximum stable temperature?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 30, 2015, 05:20:41 AM
You might help:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9673.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: zp_henry on April 30, 2015, 10:17:05 PM
Hello.

I am new. I have problem with ML install in first step.
How to know if my EOS 70D is A or B version?
I don't know if i need to install Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111A  or Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111B?

I just know it is 70D(W).

Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on April 30, 2015, 10:25:52 PM
Quote from: zp_henry on April 30, 2015, 10:17:05 PM
Hello.

I am new. I have problem with ML install in first step.
How to know if my EOS 70D is A or B version?
I don't know if i need to install Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111A  or Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111B?

I just know it is 70D(W).

Thank you very much!

Hi Henry, and welcome!
Please try to install 70D_111A...  If it is the correct one, it will install successfully, if it is not the correct one for your camera, it will tell you, and you can install 70D_111B at that point.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: mocenigo on May 01, 2015, 03:03:04 PM
Version B seems to work well on an old camera. At some point I got a crash, but I forgot what that was. I will try to reproduce. DUAL ISO seems to work well.

Roberto
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DSLR Pro on May 01, 2015, 09:03:25 PM
Hey guys, I've been using ML for timelapses for a while on my 70D, like some other features like :focus peeking , histogram ETC. Can't get the dual ISO working. Have ML 111 Feb 2015 version.
Could someone walk me through on how to make it happened ? Thank you in advance for your attention.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 02, 2015, 12:18:34 AM
Maybe update to the latest ( April 2015) build and retest?
Title: Canon 70D DUAL ISO
Post by: ciriuss925 on May 02, 2015, 09:40:56 AM
Just wanted to share my DUAL ISO experimentation with my 70D -  thank you to the Magic Lantern developers who are working hard to port ML to 70D!  Very happy playing around with the DUAL ISO  :)

F/2.2  @ 0.5 seconds  (taken with 50mm 1.4 lens); DUAL ISO = 200/3200
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwB_poTzzVK8Y3JOQ2NmSExIMFE/view?usp=sharing

F/11  @  2 seconds (50mm 1.4 lens);  DUAL ISO = 200/1600 (toned down the ISO)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwB_poTzzVK8SHJER2hoSVdGNWc/view?usp=sharing

I'll try to google how to display my image directly on this page instead of just providing a link..

BTW my ML is not even the latest one - it is from the March Alpha4B build :)  I bet the newer builds must be even more awesome :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 02, 2015, 09:53:03 AM
nice one glad you are happy with it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 02, 2015, 10:15:24 AM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on April 27, 2015, 06:11:19 PM
True. I second that and also still wating for a fix to be able to use Arrow Key functions (there's no buttons configured to enabled it) as well as being able to change exposures during RAW video recording. Hopefully that's not the limitation of the 70D.

I also agree w @chrisfrancia regarding being able to use log files after recording Raw video (however, you can still dive into its metadata if recorded in MLV) but still would be a +1 for Raw.
Quotew00t I thought I fixed that - at least it was working then. I need to recheck that:

https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/commits/aa943650a918e874a75d284a9e00d84d285d8bc2?at=70D-merge

::) :o 8)

Ok confirmed as not to be working. Trying to fix it later. As far as I recall I also played around with gui button definitions. Looks like I missed those while committing above.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 02, 2015, 12:21:31 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on May 02, 2015, 10:15:24 AM
Ok confirmed as not to be working. Trying to fix it later. As far as I recall I also played around with gui button definitions. Looks like I missed those while committing above.

Sweet! Thanks, a lot, nikfreak! Can't wait to have that working :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mr.Click on May 02, 2015, 03:45:20 PM
I have an issue with the Alpha 5 A build, in Playback mode the Touchscreen sometimes freezes while zooming in. I have to leave Playbackmode to get the Touchscreen working again. It doesn´t matter if Quickzoom is enabled or not. It sometimes just freezes.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 02, 2015, 04:39:12 PM
So after sensor cleaning, still find ISO 3200 has too many hot pixels to be useful.  At 1824x766 @ 2.35, 24 fps I was able to get 16s clip.
ISO 1600 is better, as I find fewer hot pixels 5 or less.  However this requires post processing to fix.  The good news is that once you fix a frame,
the hot pixels tend to repeat so you can reuse your wire correction fix in AE.  ISO 800 very usable, 0-1 hot pixels.  ISO 400 and lower I get clean results.

Its probably the sensor being heated, thats causing the hot pixels. Not sure if ML could help here (would need a kind of pixel remap, that kicks in after 10s exposure with ISO3200).

Would love to know if anyone is able to shoot raw ISO 3200, into shadows without hot pixels for length of clip.  Try 1824x766 @ 2.35 for max res. 
No problem with ISO3200 raw pics, just the video.  But I expect long exposures will yield same hot pixel results.

H264 shot flat will get you into the ISO 3200,  in shadowy areas without hot pixels.  If you shoot flat, you can get good shadow detail, also shooting with a higher bit rate helps with detail.


Next up is to try hi. res. dual ISO video, with 3200 & lower ISO to see if alternating ISO can prevent hot pixels. 
** April 25th B version: dual iso video is NOT working.  I get wierd colours like a colorization effect is on. **  The shutter keeps changing as well **
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 02, 2015, 07:09:50 PM
For those who are curious:

Here's the link to 70D movie files including Dual-ISO MLV/RAW from 70D111B (April 23)...

https://mega.co.nz/#F!6hchkCbD!zScVqL68khdbY6MylpzhNg

Here's the link to 70D Dual ISO CR2 files (As well as other varieties of files to choose from) from April 23 build as well...

https://mega.co.nz/#F!yoNQWBTa!3ohyAu9UggiyreAiFjo8nA
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DSLR Pro on May 02, 2015, 07:33:29 PM
Can someone explain how to make a right settings on the camera for dual ISO , step by step? It will take only a few minutes of your time. Thanks.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 02, 2015, 07:34:41 PM
@DSLR Pro:

For Photos or Video?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DSLR Pro on May 02, 2015, 07:40:33 PM
Both if you can.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 02, 2015, 08:07:09 PM
Not exactly a few minutes of my time but please read the forums (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=u25ca4qf3oih03h2s5lvkjtqb7&topic=7139.msg59687#msg59687forums).

https://vimeo.com/126685303

Also keep in mind that Dual ISO currently works only for Photo mode on 70D (as you notice in my clip above) while there's progress that still needs to be done for video mode (RAW/MLV) until then...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: spinflut on May 02, 2015, 08:07:42 PM
How do I know which version I need? I mean Alpha5 A or B?
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 02, 2015, 08:08:35 PM
@spinflut:

Try A first, if fails then it will tell you to use B instead.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DSLR Pro on May 02, 2015, 08:11:47 PM
DeafEyeJedi :

Thanks a bunch, mate!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: spinflut on May 02, 2015, 08:20:59 PM
Allright. Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chann on May 02, 2015, 10:14:17 PM
Magic zoom =ok
Green bar = not ok
Split screen = not ok
Cross = not ok
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DaveM on May 03, 2015, 06:13:26 AM
I've been trying out the dual_iso (Apr23 70D111B) and the windows Cr2hdr from the 1st page and I'm not sure its working correctly.

My understanding/experience with dual ISO on my EOS M is that a dual iso image should be look like a lower ISO image but with extra latitude to raise the exposure and/or lift the shadows without them being too noisy.  However my 70D converted DNGs are all coming out over exposed and look exactly like the higher ISO image.  I don't think they are being either recorded or converted correctly.  I think winfel reported a similar problem a few pages ago.

To demonstrate I took a series of shots with my eos M and 70d at 100,800, and dual 100/800.  I used the same lens and settings with only the ISO changing and this is with no changes to exposure or shadows... right to JPG and then combined.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38489413/70d.jpg (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38489413/70d.jpg)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38489413/m.jpg (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38489413/m.jpg)

Anyone else notice something similar?
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 03, 2015, 06:45:21 AM
@DaveM:

Which converter are you using for the Dual-ISO photos from 70D?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: BirdPics on May 03, 2015, 02:38:37 PM
Keep up the good work everyone. Can't wait to be able to use this! I'm holding out until it's safe to install.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 03, 2015, 02:40:44 PM
This will never happen. See disclaimer covering *all* ML versions, stable or not: http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/faq#is_it_safe
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DaveM on May 03, 2015, 02:44:50 PM
@DeafEyeJedi -> I'm using the the cr2hdr.exe compatible with 70D for Windows from the first page. 

Here is a zip with my M/70D test shots and converted DNGs if someone wants to take a look.  I wanted to post it before but it my upload speed is not great so it had to wait.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/51t5vbbuvw3dt3i/DUAL%20ISO%20TEST.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/51t5vbbuvw3dt3i/DUAL%20ISO%20TEST.zip?dl=0)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: msummers1 on May 03, 2015, 03:29:56 PM
I absolutely love having magic lantern on my 70D but until the overheating issue is resolved I can't risk it. I keep reading responses saying that its just the readout display being wrong due to yadayadayada. In the last four weeks I covered several concerts and before running the lantern on it I had no issue with overheating and the camera shutting down. but i did have trouble with focusing, hence the magic. Now with the lantern installed I only got half way through the concert when it over heated reading 70C. The camera was hot in my hand and I took the battery out and it was real hot. Putting another batt in seemed to cool it down a touch, enough to run a while longer before over heating again. There is absolutely an issue with the temperature when running magic lantern on the 70D. I have it on a t2i and it runs all day flawlessly no over heating or anything. Unfortunately I will have to remove the lantern for now. I hope that the devs can address this problem. 70d does not over heat when running without the magic of the lantern. Thanks for all the hard work guys.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 03, 2015, 03:50:04 PM
Overheating as in "camera shutdown on its own"?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 03, 2015, 04:42:10 PM
 I dont get why battery is heating up? SD card writer cranking faster perhaps?

Lets see shooting video in RAW should mean less processing.  Should not result in much more heat?
Having tried LCD screen on back or off back, I did not notice much temp. difference from LCD placement on my camera.
Even when shooting H264 video for longer shots, I find the camera heats up (but not to a shut-down temp).

msummers1, Curious to know are you shooting at 60fps or 50 fps?  What modules enabled etc. ? 
try:
- turn off most modules (as less processing means less cpu)
- compare write speeds (24fps vs 60 fps for instance).
- do all your batteries heat-up as fast (could be a dirty contacts or some heat inflicted short circuit in the battery)
- keep LCD off back.

** If ML were running some kind endless loop or writing to card more often then H264,
then yeah it could drain the battery causing some kind of overcolocking or excessive power drain
(but if its ML than most should have same shut-down with same conditions),
so your setup conditions/card write speed/length of shots are important to know. ** JM2C
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 03, 2015, 10:45:08 PM
Quote from: msummers1 on May 03, 2015, 03:29:56 PM
I absolutely love having magic lantern on my 70D but until the overheating issue is resolved I can't risk it. I keep reading responses saying that its just the readout display being wrong due to yadayadayada. In the last four weeks I covered several concerts and before running the lantern on it I had no issue with overheating and the camera shutting down. but i did have trouble with focusing, hence the magic. Now with the lantern installed I only got half way through the concert when it over heated reading 70C. The camera was hot in my hand and I took the battery out and it was real hot. Putting another batt in seemed to cool it down a touch, enough to run a while longer before over heating again. There is absolutely an issue with the temperature when running magic lantern on the 70D. I have it on a t2i and it runs all day flawlessly no over heating or anything. Unfortunately I will have to remove the lantern for now. I hope that the devs can address this problem. 70d does not over heat when running without the magic of the lantern. Thanks for all the hard work guys.

msummers1, it's pretty clear to me that it's just a psychological issue you're confronting with. Seeing that 70C written there in red makes you think the camera is overheating, but in reality the camera gets just as hot with or without magic lantern. As long as you don't get the little thermometer icon from the Canon firmware flashing on your screen and then having the camera shut down, you shouldn't worry too much about it.
I shoot events, so I record about 8-9 hours a day. I at times have the camera recording for 3 hours at a time with only a 10 second brake in the middle while I change to a new pair of batteries. No overheating whatsoever. Running ML all this time.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: winfel on May 04, 2015, 10:09:54 AM
@DaveM: There seems to be a problem with the DNGs created with the specialized version for the 70d and Recent Versions of Lightroom and maybe Camera Raw. For me it worked perfectly (and still does) in Lightroom 5 but in Lightroom 6 the files seem to be just overexposed beyond potential to rescue them.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: SPalarius on May 04, 2015, 10:27:46 AM
Hello.
That is the question. It will do in different languages. I just with Russia, and I would like to be in Russian.
if you do not make it difficult to translate your firmware into different languages.
THANKS A LOT.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: pierre2fun on May 04, 2015, 08:31:16 PM
Here a crash report while trying to take a picture while filming.

https://mega.nz/#!1d1BlJCY
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 04, 2015, 08:35:31 PM
download link is encrypted. either share password or re-upload it without a password plz.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 04, 2015, 09:16:09 PM

Quote from: pierre2fun on May 04, 2015, 08:31:16 PM
Here a crash report while trying to take a picture while filming.

https://mega.nz/#!1d1BlJCY (https://mega.nz/#!1d1BlJCY)

You need to share it WITH the key, it should give you a looong link :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mr.Click on May 04, 2015, 09:46:28 PM
"I have an issue with the Alpha 5 A build, in Playback mode the Touchscreen sometimes freezes while zooming in. I have to leave Playbackmode to get the Touchscreen working again. It doesn´t matter if Quickzoom is enabled or not. It sometimes just freezes."

Edit: I found out that this Problem only appears, after I erased a Picture during Playback Mode, after erasing, the Touchscreen gets freezed.
I now went back to the earlier ML Version ( Alpha 4b) , with this Version,the Issue is gone. It only apears with the Alpha 5 A.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 04, 2015, 09:48:42 PM
@Mr. Click: great find. With that info I will surely narrow it down for the next release.  ;D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mr.Click on May 04, 2015, 09:49:45 PM
That would be great :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DaveM on May 04, 2015, 10:35:52 PM
@Winfel

I don't use lightroom, just PS with camera raw.  I tried it at work (older version of camera raw and on a mac) and the file opened fine.   The 70d shot looked just like the M shot with nice clean shadows and the same detailed highlights. 

I then updated camera raw on that computer and sure enough 70d shot's default exposure is now about 2.5 stops too high.  The eos m shot remains the same even though it was also created with the same cr2hdr as the 70d. 

Since the DNG seems to be ok I'm not as worried now about loosing the highlight detail.  I will just need to lower the exposure a couple stops before I start doing other edits and it should be fine.  Still I wonder what makes the 70D dual iso DNG files act differently in the latest camera raw and lightroom...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 04, 2015, 11:17:32 PM
Quote from: DaveM on May 04, 2015, 10:35:52 PM
.....
I then updated camera raw on that computer and sure enough 70d shot's default exposure is now about 2.5 stops too high.  The eos m shot remains the same even though it was also created with the same cr2hdr as the 70d. 

...Still I wonder what makes the 70D dual iso DNG files act differently in the latest camera raw and lightroom...

Anyone else having same experience or may verify above? I would just like to have it verified. In this case someone else with an older camera raw version would need to update to the latest version and share his/her experience with the end result. Actually I am a little bit confused with user experience. Some have no problems others do have 'em. Add to that different user scenarios like LR plugin or different cr2hdr versions (win/mac)- either downloaded from 1st post or provided by other tools. No offense to anyone.I just want to find the root cause of the reported dualiso issues because I have no clue atm what is causing them.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DaveM on May 05, 2015, 02:14:11 AM
Here is a file I'm having a problem with.  Maybe it will help if someone else can take a look at it can see if they can duplicate.

Here is the dual iso CR2.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s6ukqbs0moswhy7/IMG_3775.CR2?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/s6ukqbs0moswhy7/IMG_3775.CR2?dl=0)

Here is the converted DNG.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zb3qtu1yy963zg5/IMG_3775.DNG?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zb3qtu1yy963zg5/IMG_3775.DNG?dl=0)


I found that I have Camera Raw 7 on my laptop and 9 on my desktop, so here are the resulting jpg file with each...

Here is a jpg file converted with Camera Raw 9 with Exposure-2.  The sky is so blown out I can't get any detail in it even by lowering the exposure.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zl0hp51szgnpkgc/IMG_3775_cr9.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zl0hp51szgnpkgc/IMG_3775_cr9.jpg?dl=0)

Here is a jpg file converted with Camera Raw 7 with shadows +100  The sky is nice, and the shadows can be lifted to show ground detail.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k8lbrzvxxr67dfw/IMG_3775_cr7.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/k8lbrzvxxr67dfw/IMG_3775_cr7.jpg?dl=0)



Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: wdh3344521 on May 05, 2015, 05:07:27 AM
hello,dear group~
I have tryed the ML on my 70d and the dual iso model.
But when I need the cr2hdr.exe I can not open the link on the first page
Download cr2hdr.exe compatible with 70D for Windows
can you offer another link of cr2hdr for windows compatible with 70d?
THX
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 05, 2015, 05:16:29 AM
No problem here. Try other browsers.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: lolowattrelos on May 05, 2015, 06:56:41 AM
hello
Sorry, I do not speak English and I use an automatic translator.
Thank you very much for your work.

I have a small problem with the MLV:
MlRawViewer correctly reads the MLV but it exports DNG files do not open in photoshop CC.
I tried to convert the DNG with other software, but, like, it can not open them.

(No problem with Raw video)
I use the B version
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Danne on May 05, 2015, 04:43:56 PM
I completed a conversion tool for converting dualiso CR2 and dng movie files. It will also work with 70D dual iso files since it uses Nikfreaks cr2hdr20bit compiled from N/A. It works multithreaded.

thread here
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15108.msg146822;topicseen#msg146822
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Chele on May 05, 2015, 05:34:53 PM
Where can I donate?  I have looked though this thread and couldn't find it!  I would like to buy you guys at least a cup of coffee, not beer, I want you guys to stay awake for hours on end not pass out on the job:)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Danne on May 05, 2015, 05:50:35 PM
Of course I managed to include the wrong cr2hdr20bit binary ;). Sorry guys. Changed to the right compile and tested now. Works with dual iso files from 70D. Link again here.

dualiso_to_DNG
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15108.msg146822;topicseen#msg146822
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: snakec on May 06, 2015, 08:41:41 PM
Camera Raw 9 ( and lightroom 6 ) is not good for dual iso  :'(

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 06, 2015, 08:46:27 PM
Lightroom Dual ISO converter (cr2hdr) plug-in by kichetof:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11056.msg107262#msg107262
If you are using 70D files you have to replace cr2hdr executables with those linked here in this thread.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: snakec on May 06, 2015, 08:53:59 PM
already uses the beta 3
With the cr2 to 70d

Same tuning ...

Camera Raw 8.6
(http://snakec.free.fr/divers/060515-13H46.jpg)

Lightroom 6 or Camera raw 9
(http://snakec.free.fr/divers/IMG_8654-dualiso.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: jakepetre on May 06, 2015, 09:22:02 PM
Can someone(or anyone) share their recording durations when shooting raw video? I'm only able to get 2s with a 90mb/s card before it says 'skipped' and stops recording.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 06, 2015, 09:43:25 PM
@snakec: your results seem to confirm what DaveM already mentioned earlier.
What happens for normal raw (cr2) files (not dualiso) with adobe's dng converter? Can you replicate the results for non-dualiso files?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bensch on May 06, 2015, 10:16:47 PM
Hi,

I've been following this forum quite a long time now and I'm happy to have the alpha-version (70D111B (April 23)) finally installed on my 70D, too.
@nikfreak et al.: THANK YOU!

I have one small question: Should the focus stacking already be working? (because it doesn't)

Thanks, ben

Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 06, 2015, 11:11:17 PM
Quote from: jakepetre on May 06, 2015, 09:22:02 PM
Can someone(or anyone) share their recording durations when shooting raw video? I'm only able to get 2s with a 90mb/s card before it says 'skipped' and stops recording.
Which resolution are you shooting in and what FPS?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DaveM on May 07, 2015, 01:49:44 AM
@nikfreak

I downloaded the latest Adobe DNG converter and converted a couple of my normal CR2 files.  They did not have the same issue.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 07, 2015, 02:50:48 AM
Ok for what its worth.  One can shoot 2K @ 2.35 & about 60 fps for about 2.5s.  I get about 151 frames.

I used canon menu IPB 1280x720 60fps.  Use ML_raw, 2.35 aspect, and 2048x872.  Hit digital zoom once, X5 on screen (which I think is 3X, facial recog AF does not support zoom)and you will need to MF.

1920x818 205 frames, 3.5s
2048x872 151 frames, 2.5s
2240x954 108 frames, 1.5s

Once ML fps override is working, rather than 60fps, for 2k one can dial back to 24 fps to get longer times (x2.5, for 10s to 4.5s).

Read my recent posts for times at less than 1080p resolutions.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: renderone on May 07, 2015, 07:47:19 AM
Hello, first of all, let me say how grateful I am to have access to more features in my 70d. Magic Lantern is simply fantastic. However, I have been confused about which download was right for me. From the reading, I thought maybe, because my serial number is of the earlier models, I should just go for the 111B files, but was I mistaken on this assumption?

Is this why Magic Lantern is glitchy on mine and causes the menu to close on me every few seconds? What determines which one will install and which one won't?

Upon further reading, I see that I should just start with 111A, then go to 111B if that doesn't work.

Should I uninstall 111B and try again with 111A, or does the installation of 111B mean that was the one for me any way? What is the determining factor for which one we need to download?

Sorry if this has been gone over and over, it's quite a long thread to find the answers easily through manual scanning.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 07, 2015, 07:53:20 AM
@renderone: Stick w B and play with it or read the forums some more. It is normal for the ML to go out after 4-5 secs on 70D. The M also has bug as well.

For those who are curious or in need of files (Dual-ISO RAW, MLV, CR2, MLV/RAW, FRSP
DNG/MLV) from certain models such as 70D, 5D3 & the M... Perhaps to help speed up the process on getting the binaries up to date.
Or just want to play with certain files for testing/practice purposes.

https://mega.co.nz/#F!DokxSIhC!q5iOd_rIQTRbCXA51Kyz5Q

Happy Updates!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: X-STATE on May 07, 2015, 10:25:49 AM
friends!
Please forgive me for this question :)
I use with ML SANDISK Extreme Pro SDXC 32GB UHS Class 1 95Mb / s
I want to buy SANDISK Extreme Pro SDXC 64GB UHS Class 1 95Mb / s
because now capture RAW was not enough space
The card 64 has no problems with the work of the ML on 70D?
tnx
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 07, 2015, 10:42:17 AM
Quote from: X-STATE on May 07, 2015, 10:25:49 AM
friends!
Please forgive me for this question :)
I use with ML SANDISK Extreme Pro SDXC 32GB UHS Class 1 95Mb / s
I want to buy SANDISK Extreme Pro SDXC 64GB UHS Class 1 95Mb / s
because now capture RAW was not enough space
The card 64 has no problems with the work of the ML on 70D?
tnx

64GB card works just fine, but you will have to make it bootable with the EOScard.exe tool in order to install Magic Lantern on it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: X-STATE on May 07, 2015, 12:23:05 PM
Quote from: xsghost on May 07, 2015, 10:42:17 AM
64GB card works just fine,
TNX!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: zp_henry on May 07, 2015, 02:27:50 PM
Hello!

Magic Lantern works fine on my new Canon 70D.
But i can not find audio settings in ML?
I also miss the duration of recording?

Thank you very much :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on May 07, 2015, 02:38:50 PM
Quote from: zp_henry on May 07, 2015, 02:27:50 PM
Hello!

Magic Lantern works fine on my new Canon 70D.
But i can not find audio settings in ML?


I don't think audio has been enabled yet.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: zp_henry on May 07, 2015, 04:20:15 PM
How long (or to what temperature) is safe for recording video?

In 10 minutes it is already red zone - 60 degrees Celsius.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: SPalarius on May 07, 2015, 04:53:30 PM
Hello.
who can help with the translation. for earlier thanks to
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: SPalarius on May 07, 2015, 04:56:26 PM
или может кто подскажет какой программой можно перевести МЛ
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 07, 2015, 05:42:22 PM
Quote from: zp_henry on May 07, 2015, 04:20:15 PM
How long (or to what temperature) is safe for recording video?

In 10 minutes it is already red zone - 60 degrees Celsius.

That number is not the real temperature, and even if it was, it doesn't matter, as the camera has a warning come on in the form of a thermometer icon when the temperature is too high, and if you ignore it, it stops recording. So shoot away.
I've shot for several hours without stop and the warning never even came on.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: grey on May 07, 2015, 07:53:11 PM
Quote from: SPalarius on May 07, 2015, 04:56:26 PM
или может кто подскажет какой программой можно перевести МЛ

Я тоже могу по Русски тут писать, but this is international forum. English language is acceptable for most of people from many countries. So use it if you want to got some help.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: grey on May 07, 2015, 07:59:20 PM
Quote from: SPalarius on May 07, 2015, 04:56:26 PM
или может кто подскажет какой программой можно перевести МЛ

For what reason do you need to translate ML in Russian or any other language?
Зачем переводить МЛ на Русский или любой другой язык? Большинство терминов не имеют нормальных аналогов в Русском языке. Меню и так отлично структурировано и интуитивно понятно.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: danagiesbrecht on May 07, 2015, 09:05:53 PM
Hi All,

I need some help. I just downloaded Magic Lantern using this tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DtrFE39db4 for my Canon 70D DSLR and got all the way until the last step where it says: Making card bootable failed, please try again with debug on.... which it was on. So now I don't know what to do.

Any advice?

Thanks a bunch


Dana
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: danagiesbrecht on May 07, 2015, 09:07:39 PM
Or a better question might be... can anyone provide me with the most up to date download? I copied the link on the first page of this forum but maybe that's why I'm having issues?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 07, 2015, 09:15:06 PM
This tutorial is outdated. Format your card using a cardreader, insert card into cam and format again. Read first page and follow instructions there.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 07, 2015, 09:24:26 PM
Quote from: renderone on May 07, 2015, 07:47:19 AM
Magic Lantern is glitchy on mine and causes the menu to close on me every few seconds?

                RenderOne

        This should only happen if you are viewing the ML Menu while in Movie or Live View modes ~ If you want to stay in the ML Menu

simply Go Into It while in ELV Stills Mode.

                                                                                                                                ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: danagiesbrecht on May 07, 2015, 09:40:23 PM
Thanks for the fast reply Walter. I'm formatting my card right now, but I'm still not 100% which download to use. Could you copy and paste the correct link for me? I would be forever grateful! :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 07, 2015, 09:45:07 PM
No, you have to read first page.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 07, 2015, 10:08:49 PM
                danagiesbrecht

        What Walter said - Kind Of - You really should read the 1st Post ~ But ~ As it does not adequately Spell Out the Download & Install Procedure

Just do this ~ If you are unsure if your 70D is a "Newer" or "Older" 1, Download both 70D_111A & 70D_111B ~ Attempt to install 111_A & if it does

not install try 111_B  ~~  111_A is for the "Newer" & 111_B for the "Older" ~

Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111A or Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111B

                                                                                                                                                  ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: pierre2fun on May 07, 2015, 10:12:21 PM
Just comming back.

Hum  :-[
A link you can read.

https://mega.nz/#!1d1BlJCY!TbNSzM7MmjDte-0hlAEFkq9cslGdq2qqCnOCtCTTQ_Y
https://mega.nz/#!NZF1hLqZ!Nzrp_tdf7pwfzxlItw3J9k7BMO-3LvlIudFAQtl05GA

Sorry Guys
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: SPalarius on May 08, 2015, 07:42:19 AM
QuoteМеню и так отлично структурировано и интуитивно понятно.
If you understand that I do not, there is an instruction but it is outdated and does not fit 70 d, and that would be desirable that the transfer was. why not do the translation camera in their language, and also the firmware in the language, because all users will be convenient and understandable. I do not think that all the lines speak good English language.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 08, 2015, 07:56:20 AM
Quote from: SPalarius on May 08, 2015, 07:42:19 AM
[quoteМеню и так отлично структурировано и интуитивно понятно.]
If you understand that I do not, there is an instruction but it is outdated and does not fit 70 d, and that would be desirable that the transfer was. why not do the translation camera in their language, and also the firmware in the language, because all users will be convenient and understandable. I do not think that all the lines speak good English language.

Изучение английского языка, вы Путин любить гомосексуалист!
Или иди словарь из Украины.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: grey on May 08, 2015, 08:34:57 AM
Quote from: xsghost on May 08, 2015, 07:56:20 AM
Изучение английского языка, вы Путин любить гомосексуалист!
Или иди словарь из Украины.


We discuss about Canon EOS 70D or sexual orientation of Vladimir Putin?

And one more time... To all: in English, please.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 08, 2015, 08:52:42 AM
I was talking about SPalarius's orientation. Something may have gotten lost in translation. Anyway, back to the 70D..
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: SPalarius on May 08, 2015, 09:15:13 AM
xsghost
but where does Putin and Ukrainian Dictionary, and by the way I have with Orientation okay,
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 08, 2015, 10:25:07 AM
Not so pretty @ ISO 6400 shot in MLV on the 70D111B lol...

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7722/17233834319_32765f7330_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sfTUwt)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bensch on May 08, 2015, 11:54:07 AM
Focus stacking doesn't work properly - can anyone confirm?

If I start a series with lets say 5 photos in front and 5 photos behind, 5 steps, everything seems to work fine, the camera takes 11 shots and ends with the message "focus stacking done". But if you look at the photos there is one photo far in front and then 10 photos with exactly the same focus far behind.

During stacking, between two shots I can hear the focus motor always move two times as if it first moves back in some initial position and then moves the desired amount of steps.

Is this a known behavior or just my stupidity?-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 10, 2015, 06:44:08 AM
        So is it still just Austux, Bredy & Me that are unable to get "Movie Restart" to work on our Older 70Ds with ML111B ~

                                                                                                                                            ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 10, 2015, 11:00:59 AM
@olRivrRat: we will take a look at that soon together. It's actually just not on my highest prio.

@all: i am on this: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg146595#msg146595

Good news is that I got it working and tweaking it but it's a little bit complicated to find a suitable button but it seems that I will also be able to further improve the annoying Canon overlay which appears when pressing metering button. Will require some detailed testing to see how it goes but I will keep you updated.. It just feels like I almost got it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 10, 2015, 01:38:16 PM
Ok I guess Arrow keys work now. Please try it out and confirm the arrow keys as working (use metering mode button or AF AREA selection button). I attached download links:

70D.111A (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRNlV5TUY2RFJxMVk/view?usp=sharing)

70D.111B (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRZGltNl9SOTJKZ0U/view?usp=sharing)

Might be a good time to check if all is working fine. See the changelog for more details: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/620/add-support-for-eos-70d-111-both-revisions/commits
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: a1ex on May 10, 2015, 01:45:29 PM
A fresh menu walkthrough would be great as well. Testing only testing the default configuration of each option is not enough(e.g. not just Magic Zoom with default settings); a much better way (though still incomplete) is to also try each option from the submenu.

Because the number of menu options is huge, I'm not asking one user to perform all the tests. Just pick a few features you are interested in, and test them thoroughly.

Before including the 70D in the nightly builds, I'll disable all the features for which no feedback was received.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April) -117b (10th May2015)
Post by: chann on May 10, 2015, 07:17:36 PM
Sorry sent msg to nikfreak instead of using reply here.

First try after downloading 117b, arrow keys (used in magic zoom to re position focus point) works. Subsequently have to press zoom button (x1) for it to work.

Pressing Af or metering buttons brings out canon menu but arrow keys do not wk

All 3 focus confirmation modes do not wk
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 10, 2015, 07:56:00 PM
@olRivrRat: we will take a look at that soon together. It's actually just not on my highest prio.

                @NikFreak

       Thanks for the ComeBack on that ~ Just the acknowledgement that it is anywhere on the list is quite sufficient.

When I come across things that don't appear to be working for me, I usually feel that it may be due to something that I am doing incorrectly, especially if I post

about it & there is no reply from You Knowledgable Ones.

       The Arrow Keys appear to be functioning correctly on my 111B (once I figured out what I was looking for & how to activate the functionality) ~ I had never

used that Feature before ~ Thanks for that.

       Also noticed that you have "DealtWith" the "Temperature" issue ~ You sneaky devil ~

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 10, 2015, 08:19:11 PM
Quote from: chann on May 10, 2015, 07:17:36 PM
Sorry sent msg to nikfreak instead of using reply here.

First try after downloading 117b, arrow keys (used in magic zoom to re position focus point) works. Subsequently have to press zoom button (x1) for it to work.

Pressing Af or metering buttons brings out canon menu but arrow keys do not wk

All 3 focus confirmation modes do not wk

Ok Focus confirmation also never worked for me in MZ (magic zoom) that's known to not work on my side too. But better than disabling MZ completely!?. I will have a look again why the confirmation doesn't seem to work but can't promise to get it working. Did you try arrow keys w/o MZ? I got confused about that zoom button comment from you.

Quote from: OlRivrRat on May 10, 2015, 07:56:00 PM

       Also noticed that you have "DealtWith" the "Temperature" issue ~ You sneaky devil ~


hey I was given a special hint regarding temperature discussions. take a look here:
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/620/add-support-for-eos-70d-111-both-revisions/activity#LC6724809T298

Chann seems to use 70D.111B and olRivrRat too. Can you confirm the buttons "Af Area selction" and "Metering mode" for 70D.111B for activating arrow key mode:
(http://media.wiley.com/Lux/34/403034.image1.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: a1ex on May 10, 2015, 08:29:38 PM
Focus confirmation in MZ is also used with trap focus in LiveView, and with "best shots" option from silent pictures. It's reported by Canon code in PROP_LV_FOCUS_DATA, so you could check if this property gets triggered in LiveView (should be once per every frame) and if the focus magnitude increases when you focus on something.

If you can't figure it out, disable CONFIG_LV_FOCUS_INFO from internals.h.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bredy on May 10, 2015, 08:50:06 PM
But in the last 70.111B dowloand I don't see the file of firmware. I have to use the old one? Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)-117b
Post by: chann on May 10, 2015, 08:54:02 PM
Nikfreak, my apologies i used the af button next to the drive, iso & metering mode buttons but not the one next to the shutter - the af area selection button (as per your photo of the eos 70d top panel as shown in your #990 reply) - this works!

Pressing the metering mode button - arrow keys do not work

And thanks nik for confirming that the focus confirmation in magic zoom does not wk.

In my case, the battery drains extremely fast.

Will test arrow keys without magic zoom soon. Thank you for your prompt reply to my previous report wrt the arrow key function. Take care
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 10, 2015, 11:12:01 PM
Can you confirm the buttons "Af Area selction" and "Metering mode" for  activating arrow key mode

       @Nikfreak

       Yes, both "Af Area selction" and "Metering mode" will activate Arrow Key Mode ~ But ~ Only if you are in "Vid'Mode" ~ If you try to activate Arrow Key Mode

while in LiveView with either "Af Area" or  "Metering mode" it Does Not work ~ But if you activate Arrow Key Mode While in Vid'Mode & then switch to LiveView

the Arrow Key Mode Remains Active ~

      Also ~ Just tested & found that if I Activate the Arrow Key Mode while in Vid'Mode & then turn the Cam' Off, Switch to Stills mode & Restart the Cam', go into

LiveView or Vid'Mode, the Arrow Key Mode will still be Active ~~ The Thlot Plickens ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: danagiesbrecht on May 10, 2015, 11:14:35 PM
Hi All,

I'm still having a lot of issues downloading Magic Lantern onto my camera.

Here's where I'm currently stuck:

I downloaded the 70.111A version, unzipped the zipped file, and then copied all 4 files onto my SanDisk memory Card (64 GB).
Next I put the card in my camera, undated the camera firmware, restarted the card. The 'You've successfully downloaded Magic Lantern screen comes up' but then when I press the trash can it doesn't work. What am I missing?

Thanks a bunch!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chrisfrancia on May 10, 2015, 11:46:03 PM
the arrow/set buttons work great now, also if you select multiple options you can cycle through the modes however if you select all the options it kind of gets visually buggy, but selecting 2 options works great. thanks for the update :) (on version B)

doesnt work in photo live view for me at all

works with af button only as far as i can tell
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: miguelencho on May 11, 2015, 04:49:38 AM
Ya pude instalar ML en mi canon 70D wifi happy happy, ahora como puedo grabar mas tiempo en magic lanter? solo puedo grabar 9 segundos!!!
my test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOjw853499I

saludos.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 11, 2015, 05:36:12 AM
70 B version
In manual video mode both ISO & Kelvin worked of AF area & arrows.  Nice!
Did not see Focus by steps screen (++ + -- -), which is needed for the canon 50mm II, as it has just about no m-focus ring. 

Not sure what temp problem you devil was fixed?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bredy on May 11, 2015, 09:18:15 AM
Nikfreak

I have a problem with 111.B

With standard setting on my 70D I install the ML 70D.111B No change on setting.

I go in LiveView. Then press ZoomIn Button. The camera freeze. I try to press LiveView but doesn't work, I turn off the camera, the image turn off but the ML screen don't turn off. Only solution is to remove the battery.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 11, 2015, 09:23:03 AM
*feedbacks*

https://vimeo.com/127456563 (https://vimeo.com/127456563)

Thanks to @nikfreak for the updates.

MZ seems to be much more solid and the mini screen doesn't flicker anymore. Good job!

FP seems to have a little improvements although not a big fan of this feature (MZ seems easier to get in focus) again it depends on the situation (because I sometimes like it) hehe.

AK seems to work well other than its weird Canon overlay contents that comes up as I scroll through in between categories within AK.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 11, 2015, 12:03:32 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on May 11, 2015, 09:23:03 AM
*feedbacks*

https://vimeo.com/127456563 (https://vimeo.com/127456563)

Thanks to @nikfreak for the updates.

MZ seems to be much more solid and the mini screen doesn't flicker anymore. Good job!

FP seems to have a little improvements although not a big fan of this feature (MZ seems easier to get in focus) again it depends on the situation (because I sometimes like it) hehe.

AK seems to work well other than its weird Canon overlay contents that comes up as I scroll through in between categories within AK.

wtf is AK? Andrew Kramer?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 11, 2015, 12:43:42 PM
arrow keys....  :P
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: fer311278 on May 11, 2015, 01:12:39 PM
hello, I have a problem to reveal a picture taken with the Dual Iso, when I correct the highlights there is a dominant magenta impossible to correct. I use Camera raw and I installed the cr2hdr.

regrads!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 11, 2015, 01:26:43 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on May 11, 2015, 12:43:42 PM
arrow keys....  :P
oh..
yeah, that makes more sense :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 11, 2015, 06:24:50 PM

Quote from: fer311278 on May 11, 2015, 01:12:39 PM
hello, I have a problem to reveal a picture taken with the Dual Iso, when I correct the highlights there is a dominant magenta impossible to correct. I use Camera raw and I installed the cr2hdr.

regrads!
Which cr2hdr version did you use?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 11, 2015, 06:55:28 PM
      @NikFreak & @Alex

   It sure seems to me that having the ability to Manually be in control of ISO in All Shoot Modes ( P, AV, TV) during Video

shooting would be a Benefit ~ Is there any way that you Wizards can implement this functionality ~ I find it quite strange that

Canon chose to give us the controls on the 70D to be able to switch between M, AV, TV, & P while in Video Mode but then made

AV, TV & P, Auto ISO Only ~

                    Don't mean to distract from Tasks @ Hand, but if doable @ some point in the future I think it would be a Useful addition ~

                                                                                                                                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)-117b
Post by: chann on May 11, 2015, 08:15:14 PM
I refer to reply #990. Nikfreak, the zoom button I referred to is the blue button with the magnifying glass with + sign icon.

My tests were conducted in photo mode not video.

So in photo mode & in magic zoom the arrow keys worked using the af area selection button (nearest the shutter button) as well as using zoom (x1) ie the blue button however the focus box is much larger.

Hope that helps .TQ
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: fer311278 on May 11, 2015, 08:31:08 PM
DeafEyeJedi, i downloaded the version which is in the first page.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: SPalarius on May 12, 2015, 06:11:31 AM
Hello everyone.
who can help with translation, if there are such.
need to be translated into Russian.or tell me which program can be translated.
for earlier thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: span on May 12, 2015, 07:58:01 PM
Hello!! I m new member here :)

I have a canon eos 70d with FW 1.1.1. Could you please tell me which is the correct FW who needs my camera ( 1.1.1A or 1.1.1B) ?

Thank you in advance
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 12, 2015, 08:00:41 PM
If you had read through 40 pages (which isn't a lot comparing to others) in this particular thread... You would have gotten your 70D up and running w ML installed without having to ask this question...

Please read otherwise try A (if fails then it will tell you to use B) and it's that simple...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Yuppa on May 12, 2015, 09:22:08 PM
Can you just image the 1st person who installed ML who came here only to find a blank forum?

What to do...what to do...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on May 12, 2015, 09:24:28 PM
Just tried RAW Recording with an external monitor attached, and the camera crashes, requiring the battery being pulled in order to reset. It never starts recording, only starts with the red time code and then freezes. The screen stays on even if the camera is turned off. This is through the USB output.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 12, 2015, 10:07:46 PM
                @Guitarshredder1

        It might be a good idea to provide info/specs on the monitor you used & which version of 70D_111 you have ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 12, 2015, 10:16:04 PM
                  @Span

         If you don't want to read All 41Pages, @ Least go to Reply #975 (1st 1 on Pg40 in my browser) & Read It ~

                                                                                                                             ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on May 13, 2015, 01:18:01 AM
I am using an Android tablet with DSLR Controller on it, and Alpha5b version A. It works fine in All-I mode, but freezes in RAW. It also freezes when recording MLV.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 13, 2015, 05:23:55 PM
                @Guitarshredder1

        I tried it with my Nexus7+DSLRController (which is my Norm' Vid' SetUp) & got the Same Freeze symptoms as you ~

I'm guessing that it may just be asking the Camera to do to much work ~ 70D_111B ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: jman2015 on May 13, 2015, 05:54:54 PM
Has anyone connected  the 70d to an atomos to see if the ML cleans the HDMI output? I searched through the post and Didn't see anything i understood in regard. I'm debating buying one and have NOT installed ML yet and it would be a deciding factor.

thanks in advance.

Great forum btw
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on May 13, 2015, 06:22:45 PM
Quote from: jman2015 on May 13, 2015, 05:54:54 PM
Has anyone connected  the 70d to an atomos to see if the ML cleans the HDMI output? I searched through the post and Didn't see anything i understood in regard. I'm debating buying one and have NOT installed ML yet and it would be a deciding factor.

thanks in advance.

Great forum btw

You can only record using the formats that it allows you too on the atomos.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DavNik on May 13, 2015, 06:39:59 PM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on May 10, 2015, 06:44:08 AM
        So is it still just Austux, Bredy & Me that are unable to get "Movie Restart" to work on our Older 70Ds with ML111B ~

                                                                                                                                            ORR ~ DeanB

Same problem on mine
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 13, 2015, 06:42:39 PM
Are you guys having this issue with h264 and not RAW/MLV, right?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 13, 2015, 07:28:29 PM
DSLR Controller app does not work with ML RAW. It never has on any ML release.
Some claimed 5D MIII, but even that was limited.  I suspect it needs to be optimized
to work with ML, and the DSLR Controller app folks have never claimed it does. 

DSLR controller is for H264 video.  However 70D with a loupe on the LCD is even faster,
and the LCD screen is very sufficient for focus peaks & checks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: jman2015 on May 13, 2015, 08:24:19 PM
confused so the HDMI out is steady now? To the best of my understanding one couldn't get a steady HDMI out before...

ote from: jman2015 on Today at 05:54:54 PM
Has anyone connected  the 70d to an atomos to see if the ML cleans the HDMI output? I searched through the post and Didn't see anything i understood in regard. I'm debating buying one and have NOT installed ML yet and it would be a deciding factor.

thanks in advance.

Great forum btw

You can only record using the formats that it allows you too on the atomos.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 13, 2015, 10:59:31 PM
            @DeafEyeJedi

"Are you guys having this issue with h264 and not RAW/MLV, right?"

        Both you & WalterS have asked that question ~

               Answer ~ H264 ~

Here is my 1st post on the topic ~

                @Austux

        Glad you brought that up. I just tested on mine & it stopped @ 29:59 ~

    So I'm curious if you guys know of anyone able to get to 29:59 in RAW/MLV ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: danagiesbrecht on May 14, 2015, 01:21:47 AM
Hi All,

So I have magic lantern finally installed properly and working but I don't see any settings for monitoring audio. Can someone help me out please?

Thanks,

Dana
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: grey on May 14, 2015, 01:38:47 AM
Quote from: danagiesbrecht on May 14, 2015, 01:21:47 AM
Hi All,

So I have magic lantern finally installed properly and working but I don't see any settings for monitoring audio. Can someone help me out please?

Thanks,

Dana

There is no AudioMonitoring in currebt release.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 14, 2015, 10:18:13 AM
*Feedbacks*

Decided to test out the HDR feature...

70D shot in:
- RAW 60fps HDR mode iso 100/1600 (I know I could have done it in 48fps but wanted to push it for this test with 70D) and plus FPS override isn't quite working yet, obviously.

I also snapped a CR2 photo (thinking I had proper white balance on it) to use it as a "grey card" for HDR files but had it in the wrong WB settings. My fault will do another proper test.

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7783/17630026691_db82f0f195_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sRUuHr)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5338/17443636839_ddd4afea0e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/szrcvi)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5447/17442112298_a7838c46e9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/szioj7)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5464/17603625546_5d793ed26e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sPzbzh)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8756/17009606263_b4d13bcc49_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rV5Fkv)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5457/17603626966_243d89bcb1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sPzbZL)

https://vimeo.com/127802306

Lots of aliasing w these HDR 70D files, eh?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: X-STATE on May 14, 2015, 09:39:44 PM
is this RAW dual iso video or hdr video?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Danne on May 14, 2015, 10:00:34 PM
I think he shot this in RAW HDR iso 100/1600 60fps. Frames are then halfed and automatically upscaled to 30fps when merged in cr2hdr-r.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 15, 2015, 01:10:53 AM
Correct @Danne!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: LightMan on May 15, 2015, 08:20:55 AM
Hello

I don't know if someone else notice that but I notice that ML corrupt the SD card and I finally have to format it. I can't read the card on my computer (card not initialized) or on my 70D (card unreadable).
When I succeed to format it and restore videos from it, videos are corrupted. I see that ML was deleted when reformating the card.
I record hours of video without any problem with ML but sometimes, without any reason, the card is unreadable and I have to format her.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 15, 2015, 09:30:28 AM
ML doesn't reprogram SD-card interface but uses what Canon built in (hardware and software). Your case may be just coincidence or you treated card wrong. You have to wait a while after shutting down the cam before opening SD-card compartment. Otherwise you may disrupt ML shutdown.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: LightMan on May 15, 2015, 01:45:48 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on May 15, 2015, 09:30:28 AM
ML doesn't reprogram SD-card interface but uses what Canon built in
I know it ! :)
Maybe I don't wait enough after shutting down... However I waited 5 sec before opening SD-CARD door.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Yuppa on May 15, 2015, 05:47:44 PM
Quote from: LightMan: Today at 08:20:55 AMWhen I succeed to format it and restore videos from it, videos are corrupted. I see that ML was deleted when reformating the card.

What do you mean by, "format?" On your computer? Of course all the files will be gone.

After EACH file transfer (session) from my camera (a 60D) to my computer, I put the SD card back in my camera and perform a "low level" format (ML restores itself unless I press the "Q" button to switch the option to remove).

But this is just me.

Cards do NOT last forever.  It might be time for new/better card.  In-camera SD card formatting should be part of your regular maintenance routine.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 15, 2015, 06:10:36 PM
There are exceptions to the rule. Formatting in camera with cards up to 32 GByte will give you FAT32 file system. If you want to preserve ExFAT on those cards do *not* format in cam or you have to reformat them using cardreader. And use EOScard/Macboot to make card bootable again (or install ML again). And restore ML settings.
Could be routine, too but one I'd rather try to avoid.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: jman2015 on May 16, 2015, 04:19:15 AM
has anyone tried slow motion 60fps with ML, if you can only get a minute i assume you can only slow mo for 30 seconds?

debating if i want to install this might be the one to push me over the edge...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chmteacher on May 16, 2015, 06:54:44 AM
I'm doing some experimenting, how do I actually uninstall ML from my 70D? Will I brick it if I just format the card?
Thx in advance,
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 16, 2015, 08:17:17 AM
Quote from: jman2015 on May 16, 2015, 04:19:15 AM
has anyone tried slow motion 60fps with ML, if you can only get a minute i assume you can only slow mo for 30 seconds?

debating if i want to install this might be the one to push me over the edge...

How does one do slow motion 60fps with ML? Are you talking about fps override?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chann on May 16, 2015, 08:24:37 PM
chmteacher, reply # 1037
ML resides in the sd card. Deleting ML or formatting card will uninstall - should not brick eos
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 16, 2015, 08:39:51 PM
Formatting the card will *not* uninstall ML from the cam. It will render card non-bootable and ML files gone but cam's bootflag will still be set. But you will not see ML starting up using this card, that's true.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on May 16, 2015, 10:48:50 PM
I formatted my card and tried to run the may version A but wouldn't let me update firmware or run ML. The previous version A worked fine for me. 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 16, 2015, 11:05:17 PM
1) Format card using cardreader.
2) Format card using cam
3) Copy extracted nightly contents to card
4) Run firmware update
Report back
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chmteacher on May 16, 2015, 11:09:09 PM
Walter, your message would have been more helpful if it included actually how to reset the bootflag, i.e. truly "uninstall" ML....

Posted by: Walter Schulz
« on: Today at 08:39:51 PM » Insert Quote
Formatting the card will *not* uninstall ML from the cam. It will render card non-bootable and ML files gone but cam's bootflag will still be set. But you will not see ML starting up using this card, that's true.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on May 16, 2015, 11:12:49 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on May 16, 2015, 11:05:17 PM
1) Format card using cardreader.
2) Format card using cam
3) Copy extracted nightly contents to card
4) Run firmware update
Report back
That's what I did the first time but did it again anyway and I am still getting the message 'Memory card containing firmware is required to update'.

I might try version B but seeing as A worked before I don't imagine that it would work either.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 16, 2015, 11:19:00 PM
Quote from: chmteacher on May 16, 2015, 11:09:09 PM
Walter, your message would have been more helpful if it included actually how to reset the bootflag, i.e. truly "uninstall" ML....

Read first post in this thread.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 16, 2015, 11:22:04 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on May 16, 2015, 11:05:17 PM
3) Copy extracted nightly contents to card
3) Copy extracted alpha-a contents to card
Quote from: Frarike on May 16, 2015, 11:12:49 PM
That's what I did the first time but did it again anyway and I am still getting the message 'Memory card containing firmware is required to update'.

FIR file present in card's root directory?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on May 16, 2015, 11:25:21 PM
Ok that was it, thanks. :-[

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 17, 2015, 01:50:27 AM
In movie tweaks, their is an enable option to keep recording by starting another clip after 29.59min. 
When I shoot raw and it skips a frame, the next clip does not start when enabled.  It would be verrry useful to start the next movie after a skipped frame. This would effectively increase the raw video time (ok I realize might be 0.5 sec. lost between stop/restart)
but for 1824x776 @ 2.35 aspect which runs about 15s on a 70D, this would make a huge difference ... almost increasing the raw video time for free.

I also wonder if you entered a value like start/stop after X frames, if the stop present/start next clip time could be reduced to like 0.1sec.
Not sure about what happens after you hit stop.  How fast can one cue up the next video if its preprogrammed???
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chmteacher on May 17, 2015, 02:13:01 AM
Walter, I have read the stupid first post about 10,000 times. It does not state how to uninstall. Unfortunately this forum has a terrible way of actually searching within this particular thread. Instead of being a d&ck why not actually post how to uninstall it if you know how?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: TechnoPilot on May 17, 2015, 05:38:12 AM
Quote from: chmteacher on May 17, 2015, 02:13:01 AM
Walter, I have read the stupid first post about 10,000 times. It does not state how to uninstall. Unfortunately this forum has a terrible way of actually searching within this particular thread. Instead of being a d&ck why not actually post how to uninstall it if you know how?
@chmteacher - If you take the time to read the thread, even only the last dozen pages, you would very clearly have seen how to uninstall the lastest 70D alpha of ML, remember this is not an official release, this is an Alpha and if you are unwilling to make the effort to take the time to read even the latest of the development thread then you should not be testing the Alpha software on your camera.  Perhaps this forum's search function is not the greatest at time, but being arrogant and demanding to those who are taking the time to respond to try to answer your question when it is their own initiative is not very nice.  We are all just trying to further the community here.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chmteacher on May 17, 2015, 06:35:59 AM
I'm still not sure how NOT answering people's questions furthers the community. Sorry I don't have time to read through 42 pages of posts to find what I'm looking for. At this point it probably would have been more efficient... Can anyone else use their language skills to describe how to uninstall ML instead of saying "read the first post"?
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 17, 2015, 07:12:59 AM
42 pages is nothing comparing to the other threads on this remarkable forum... Please keep the tone down a bit and show respect for others...

If you really want to uninstall ML then why don't you watch this video... If you have the time, right?

https://vimeo.com/128044782 (https://vimeo.com/128044782)

However, in doing so won't disable the bootflag... If that's what you want to do then go to Canon menu and run firmware update again... Once you see "ML already installed, etc" then simply wait 1 minute in order for it to completely disable the bootflag.

If you don't mind me asking... Why do you want to completely uninstall this from your camera? Any valid points? Complaints?

Or just simply too overwhelming for you to handle?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chmteacher on May 17, 2015, 07:35:52 AM
@DeafEyeJedi
Thanks for posting something worth reading. I'm just interested in comparing some performance/video nuances to stock. One thing I have noticed now is that my camera won't go to into sleep mode anymore and the card light flashes every minute or so (keeping it awake?). Not sure if I just missed a setting somewhere or what. Regardless it is a little weird that people freak out if you actually want to try uninstalling this thing. Heaven forbid...
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 17, 2015, 07:39:18 AM
I'm sorry but anything coming directly from Walter is definitely worth reading. He's a nice guy actually and a pure genius -- you just need to learn how to understand this community by reading more often. That's pretty much how I got myself this far.

Also I enjoy troubleshooting as well as many others here -- so hopefully you are on the same boat.

Anyway Do you think you Missed a setting somewhere within ML menu or Canon menu (just trying to understand your issue).

Have you tried uninstalling ML yet by running firmware update again and follow the instructions on LCD screen?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: hturkcan on May 17, 2015, 01:32:01 PM
Hello 70d owners. I just try to install ml for my 70d. I think I 've installed correctly. But I have a problem. There is no raw settings in Movie Header. So, did I miss something?
Here is ss
(http://i.hizliresim.com/yMNJJ7.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on May 17, 2015, 01:37:42 PM
Did enable all the modules in module tab and restart your camera?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Berrob on May 17, 2015, 04:15:26 PM
is it possible to route the write output to the usb interface for higher bandwidth than what the SD card slot has?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mallowsm on May 17, 2015, 04:31:49 PM
Hi im thinking of buying an atoms no decided which one. Will go hunting around on eBay. Does the ML allow for clean HDMI or will it just be the same as whats in camera pretty much?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Chucho on May 17, 2015, 08:12:29 PM
Mallowsm you have to enable it yourself "70d B" 0xFF19B6C8 PROP_DUAL_OUTPUT
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mallowsm on May 18, 2015, 01:14:58 PM
Quote from: Chucho on May 17, 2015, 08:12:29 PM
Mallowsm you have to enable it yourself "70d B" 0xFF19B6C8 PROP_DUAL_OUTPUT

Is that within the ML Menus? Im still on the march 15th release aswell so ill update it when onget a chance
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: maitimaus on May 18, 2015, 03:52:23 PM
First of all big thanks to nikfreak! I think ML runs for such early build very stable :)
my camera (B Version) only crashed sometimes because I pressed the zoom button during a raw shot, but now I know not to do that ;)

With my SanDisk 16GB 80MB/Sec card I can record RAW with the following specs (all 2.39:1 aspect ratio):
1824x764@23,976 => 15s
1504x630@23,976 => 300s (5 minute)
1472x616@23,976 => seems to be continuous

with 5X Zoom:
3456x1320 => 34 frames
2880x1206 => 50 frame
1920x804 => 170 frames

But I noticed, that the camera temperature is displayed wrong:
ML told me after some raw shooting 58C but later in ExifTool I checked the meta data and it was 49C!
another test: ML 46C and ExifTool 42C!
Is it possible to change there something?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: TechnoPilot on May 18, 2015, 06:42:03 PM
Quote from: maitimaus on May 18, 2015, 03:52:23 PM
First of all big thanks to nikfreak! I think ML runs for such early build very stable :)
my camera (B Version) only crashed sometimes because I pressed the zoom button during a raw shot, but now I know not to do that ;)

With my SanDisk 16GB 80MB/Sec card I can record RAW with the following specs (all 2.39:1 aspect ratio):
1824x764@23,976 => 15s
1504x630@23,976 => 300s (5 minute)
1472x616@23,976 => seems to be continuous

with 5X Zoom:
3456x1320 => 34 frames
2880x1206 => 50 frame
1920x804 => 170 frames

But I noticed, that the camera temperature is displayed wrong:
ML told me after some raw shooting 58C but later in ExifTool I checked the meta data and it was 49C!
another test: ML 46C and ExifTool 42C!
Is it possible to change there something?
@maitimaus - What version of the nightly are you on?  The latest which was a less official release I think (seemed a little more like a directly reply to some issues) is the May10th release, this release directly solved the known readout temperature error. 

Though admittedly from my experience now running the May10th build for a week, I just never have the temperature displayed on screen and can't figure out how to turn it on from any of the menus.

@Nikfreak, perhaps you could comment on the now lack of temperature display?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 18, 2015, 07:21:57 PM
@technoPilot: temperature display was incorrect and therefore removed to avoid unnecessary confusions / discussions.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: TechnoPilot on May 18, 2015, 08:49:32 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on May 18, 2015, 07:21:57 PM
@technoPilot: temperature display was incorrect and therefore removed to avoid unnecessary confusions / discussions.
@nikfreak - This makes a lot of sense, I am curious though, you mentioned on the same post as the release that someone let you in on the formula to convert the readings to real temperatures.  Are you still working on implementing this, or was it still not correct?  Let me know if you need any further help with correcting this.

Also, just to directly say, amazing work on ML for the 70D, I am loving using it on my "b build" camera.  The latest build has really added to the stability overall of the Alpha.  The only two items that I have directly noticed, is that the overlay bitmap is very slow to reload anytime the ML screen is redrawn, I'm not sure if this is normal behaviour, but it sometimes takes up to 10 seconds.  The second is more something I am just feeling like I am missing while shooting, and I'm assuming it is because you have not gotten to debugging that module yet, that is the lack of ability to draw audio meters on the screen.

Thanks again for the amazing work so far!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mallowsm on May 18, 2015, 09:51:30 PM
Quote from: Mallowsm on May 18, 2015, 01:14:58 PM
Is that within the ML Menus? Im still on the march 15th release aswell so ill update it when onget a chance

Im very confused do i need to do this myself inside terminal or anything? If anyone hasn't got the time to explain it, just point me in the right direction, I purchased a atomos ninja on eBay tonight fairly cheap so id love to unlock the full potential of the HDMI output of the camera. Using ML has changed the way i use the camera 100%
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: oaydin on May 19, 2015, 04:53:58 PM
Hello, I'd just like to point out that I've read the first post on this thread. I have a 70D with a copy of the latest alpha release (as of the 19th May). I've used ML... A LOT, especially on my old 550D. ML is an integral part of my gear now and you guys are doing an awesome job  :)

I just have a point/question to arise:

Question: I don't want to assume anything in case i mess my camera up, so i was wondering, can I have this install of ML on multiple SD cards? Can i just copy the ML files on to other SD cards? Or do i go through the install process for each SD Card?

Point: In manual (photo and video) mode, one of my favourite features is the Magic Zoom. Although the magic zoom is basically functional, i cannot seem to move the pointer around the screen for different points of manual focusing. The green bars on Focus Confirm also do not work.

Thanks for reading, great work!

Orhan
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: maitimaus on May 19, 2015, 07:01:26 PM
I updated today to the Nightly.2015May10.70D111B :)

There is still a problem with the ISO value which is displayed during the classical RAW video shot:

ISO 100 => ML: ISO 100
ISO 125 => ML: ISO 100
ISO 160 => ML: ISO 200
ISO 200 => ML: ISO 200
ISO 250 => ML: ISO 200
ISO 320 => ML: ISO 400
ISO 400 => ML: ISO 400
ISO 500 => ML: ISO 400
ISO 640 => ML: ISO 800
ISO 800 => ML: ISO 800
ISO 1000 => ML ISO 800
ISO 1250 => ML: ISO 1600
ISO 1600 => ML: ISO 1600
ISO 2000 => ML: ISO 1600
ISO 2500 => ML: ISO 3200
...

Anyone else having this problem? :)
Another question: Is it normal that the ML menu is automatically closed after 6 seconds?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: TechnoPilot on May 19, 2015, 07:49:26 PM


Quote from: maitimaus on May 19, 2015, 07:01:26 PM
I updated today to the Nightly.2015May10.70D111B :)

...

Another question: Is it normal that the ML menu is automatically closed after 6 seconds?

The ISO issue I will let someone else address, but as for the random menu closure, this is a know ML bug that, if I'm not mistaken, was first seen in the build for the EOS M and occurs when opening the ML menu from LiveView.  There may not be a workaround for this in the near future.  If you are needing to be in the menu for an extended period of time, switching over to photo mode without LiveView will allow you to stay in it for an extended period.  What may also work, although something I have not checked yet, but it may also work when LiveView needs reactivation after changing shooting modes in video mode.

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mallowsm on May 19, 2015, 07:57:50 PM
Quote from: Chucho on May 17, 2015, 08:12:29 PM
Mallowsm you have to enable it yourself "70d B" 0xFF19B6C8 PROP_DUAL_OUTPUT

Can someone help me with this id be very greatful
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: TechnoPilot on May 19, 2015, 07:59:47 PM
Quote from: Mallowsm on May 19, 2015, 07:57:50 PM
Can someone help me with this id be very greatful
This is also something that I will be needing in a few months time, can we figure out how to make this an option in the ML menu for future releases?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mallowsm on May 19, 2015, 08:02:35 PM
Quote from: TechnoPilot on May 19, 2015, 07:59:47 PM
This is also something that I will be needing in a few months time, can we figure out how to make this an option in the ML menu for future releases?

Yeah i bought an atomos cheap off ebay and love to get uncompressed to it via the hdmi
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: samdinzey on May 19, 2015, 09:55:43 PM
I noticed that in the firmware update for the MKIII they made a clean HDMI output available, would this make it possible to make the option available for the 70D?
I also have a Ninja 2 and would love to be able to film uncompressed. I love ML and the doors that it has opened up for my camera so far!  :)

If you hear anything feel free to email me [email protected]
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chrisfrancia on May 19, 2015, 10:25:19 PM
@maitimaus, This is largely speculation and I do not feel like finding out if this is how ML is on other cameras but, I think its a safe bet to say that... When shooting RAW the digital ISO's are disabled so we are left with the actual ISO's as options only. Also any iso inbetween exposure 'changes' you see in camera could be considered just live view simulation?

I was going to wait and let someone else answer but since no one has, maybe someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 19, 2015, 10:40:52 PM
Just for my selfnotes while trying to polish up things:

Work in progress checking props in ROM:


Don't quote or comment this.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: TechnoPilot on May 19, 2015, 10:41:05 PM
Quote from: chrisfrancia on May 19, 2015, 10:25:19 PM
@maitimaus, This is largely speculation and I do not feel like finding out if this is how ML is on other cameras but, I think its a safe bet to say that... When shooting RAW the digital ISO's are disabled so we are left with the actual ISO's as options only. Also any iso inbetween exposure 'changes' you see in camera could be considered just live view simulation?

I was going to wait and let someone else answer but since no one has, maybe someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
@chrisfrancia, @maitimaus - This was also my assumption.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 20, 2015, 05:36:31 AM
                        @Mallowsm & @TechnoPilot & @Chucho

          Sure seems to me that since it was Chucho that posted this ~

"Mallowsm you have to enable it yourself "70d B" 0xFF19B6C8 PROP_DUAL_OUTPUT"

That Chucho should step up & explain ~ as probably should have done in the 1st place ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: austux on May 20, 2015, 07:06:51 AM
ML seems to be working fine on a 70D ex Hong Kong (it wanted rev A 21 Apr of the ML Zip, when I started it with rev B 23 Apr on the card it told me off for wrong firmware revision).

Hello from Albany, Western Australia. My previous camera was a 40D, am delighted to be able to claim steady images in low light 'by hand' with the 70D which would have necessitated a tripod with the 40D (which meanwhile is in the hands of another family's 15yo eldest son, who is learning very fast).

Are there any plans afoot to circumvent the for-tax-reasons 29 minute 59 second firmware limitation on video recording length?

If so, what can I do to contribute?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 20, 2015, 07:28:42 AM
H.264 recording will always stop at 23:59:59. All other cams have an option to restart recording automatically. Losing some frames cannot be avoided.
70D not restarting - at the moment - has to be called a bug.

MLV seamless recording for +30 minutes is not tested yet and I don't know why.
All other cams have this feature (Nightly builds after 01/29/2015).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 20, 2015, 02:09:43 PM
Still chasing for record ML_Raw after skipped frame.  This is available option on 5DMIII.
Not sure how many frames/time lost between stop/start, but certainly helps with high res. raw on 70D.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mallowsm on May 20, 2015, 09:38:39 PM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on May 20, 2015, 05:36:31 AM
                        @Mallowsm & @TechnoPilot & @Chucho

          Sure seems to me that since it was Chucho that posted this ~

"Mallowsm you have to enable it yourself "70d B" 0xFF19B6C8 PROP_DUAL_OUTPUT"

That Chucho should step up & explain ~ as probably should have done in the 1st place ~

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 20, 2015, 11:04:59 PM
As for 2048x856 @ 2.39, 5x zoom hence MF, fps dialed to 23.99.
I can get about 200 frames, however when I hit record the LCD freezes for the most part as well as the second counter, but its actually shooting.
So it maybe that fps is working but not updating the LCD screen when shooting, so its a very lame way of shooting. The picture is very sharp mind you.

Another question:  Not sure but somehow my Aperture is locked??? 
I cant adjust it using the usual button, I can only set it inside trash-can ML Expo menu and scroll to aperture???
How to turn the lock off???
-- OK problem solved,  CFIII other - item 2, uncheck the quick-control dial.  It was a Canon s/w setting.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: flou on May 21, 2015, 12:38:01 PM
So I thanks all for hard work!!!

My question is?

The 7d mkii have the ability to control how ''fast'' the AF adjusts to a change in focus point in the move mode , (You can set the AF adjustment speed* (focus transition speed) to one of five levels, from standard speed to slow, to obtain the effect you desire. In addition, you can determine when the AF speed adjustment takes effect. "Always on" sets the AF adjustment speed to take effect at all times for movie shooting (before and during movie shooting). "During shooting" sets the AF adjustment speed to take effect only during movie shooting.)

So, this ability (adjusts the AF speed for movie) can the ML make possible for the 70D ?????????????????

This ability you can see in link: http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/standard_display/eos_7dmkii_feature_hd (http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/standard_display/eos_7dmkii_feature_hd)


AF speed
(http://learn.usa.canon.com/app/media/images/articles/eos7dmkii_video_features/eos7dmkii_video_14__hero.jpg)


Movie Servo AF speed
(http://learn.usa.canon.com/app/media/images/articles/eos7dmkii_video_features/eos7dmkii_video_15__hero.jpg)


Movie Servo AF track area
(http://learn.usa.canon.com/app/media/images/articles/eos7dmkii_video_features/eos7dmkii_video_16__hero.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mallowsm on May 21, 2015, 07:30:13 PM
Id still love some help with the clean HDMI out on the 70d. Uncompressed. Like i said I've just purchased an atomos and id love to unlock its full potential, the camera this is. If anyone can help me please id be very grateful.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 23, 2015, 10:31:20 PM
Ok here's one to file away.
It seems the 70D runs hot.  And by that I mean I have yet to see anyone shoot 3200 ISO raw video for 30s without hot pixels (in rather significant numbers).
If one does the Canon "pixel remap" it only gets the pixels which are hot right away.  It does not get those that appear after 30s.
Yet in video, and especially raw shooting, we want to remap after 30s or so (as that's when the most appear).
So to enable the 70D to shoot video at 3200 ISO, one needs to hack the pixel remap, so it can correct for the hots at 30s.
One would need to filter as to remove any 255 (RGB).  Perhaps all one would need to do is click a picture after 30s, and
export to PS, and create a template that only has 255 RGB pixels on it.  Then one would need to read that picture back in,
and use it during the pixel remap.  ~ That's the best chance to get a proper pixel remap. 
Or we could wait for Canon's next 70D update (and the tooth fairy to put a quarter under your pillow).

Ofcourse the do nothing arguement goes like this.
High ISO video/pictures have blocky shadows and weaker colour.
So even if you get a high ISO raw video, its colours are not as rich as low ISO.
The whole advantage of raw video, is richer colours. 
So why not just shoot up to ISO 800 as a max. (which is about highest ISO with only a few hot pixels) for raw video to ensure your video has rich colours. 
If you must shoot high ISO video shoot in H264 (flat pic style for higher DR) with higher bitrate  (which gives slight better detail and contrast)
as comparable solution still providing blocky shadows and weaker colours.
   
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: MattNoir on May 24, 2015, 12:21:37 AM
Just quick question - how do I run cr2hdr on a mac? I downloaded and installed exiftool and dcraw and it always says:

cr2hdr: a post processing tool for Dual ISO images

Last update: f381b87 on 2014-07-06 09:46:41 UTC by phil:
Fix output (-o) filename value passed to Adobe DNG Converter wh...

Active options:
--amaze-edge    : use a temporary demosaic step (AMaZE) followed by edge-directed interpolation (default)
--cs2x2         : apply 2x2 chroma smoothing in noisy and aliased areas (default)
--wb=graymax    : set AsShotNeutral by maximizing the number of gray pixels (default)

Input file      : /Users/Matt/Desktop/DualISO/IMG_7766.CR2
Camera          : Canon EOS 70D
Camera model    : Canon EOS
dcraw could not open this file

However I somehow managed it to work before (now it just says same text). What can be wrong?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 24, 2015, 12:29:42 AM
When AUTO ISO is set in ML Exposure tab, the Canon ISO max is ignored.  That is a bug. ** Did not find a bug report link in page 1 article --- help**
AUTO ISO with ISO MAX is very important in low light shooting.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: masterhks on May 24, 2015, 04:49:21 AM
In the next ML update i like to developer fix softness focus on wide open lens, i contact canon to ask for new firmware update for AF fix but from canon tell me no more updates for 70D this is ridiculous..
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Fatherjack57 on May 25, 2015, 08:15:04 PM
I installed ML version A on my 70d the other day.  I haven't tried everything as yet but most of it seems to work.  The only thing I find missing are the audio level meters, may be this has already been mentioned but I couldn't find anyone referring to them.  I have only just joined this forum so forgive me if I'm going over 'old ground'.  Will they be included in future up-dates or are they hidden and I can't find them ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: MiamiC70 on May 25, 2015, 08:41:46 PM
Any word when ML will be ready for Beta?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 25, 2015, 08:56:41 PM
Yes, FAQ -> Troll section, last entries there.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 26, 2015, 07:43:25 AM
Quote from: Fatherjack57 on May 25, 2015, 08:15:04 PM
I installed ML version A on my 70d the other day.  I haven't tried everything as yet but most of it seems to work.  The only thing I find missing are the audio level meters, may be this has already been mentioned but I couldn't find anyone referring to them.  I have only just joined this forum so forgive me if I'm going over 'old ground'.  Will they be included in future up-dates or are they hidden and I can't find them ?

There is no audio for this version of ML. And who knows what the future holds?..
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: TechnoPilot on May 26, 2015, 08:47:09 AM
Quote from: masterhks on May 24, 2015, 04:49:21 AM
In the next ML update i like to developer fix softness focus on wide open lens, i contact canon to ask for new firmware update for AF fix but from canon tell me no more updates for 70D this is ridiculous..
@masterhks - It would seem you either need your glass calibrated, your body, or both, but I have zero problem with very fast glass on my 70D including f1.4 and f1.2.  This has nothing to do with firmware.  Also I will point out that if you have the controlled environment to do it, you can also adjust the focus system to compensate on a lens by lens basis in the 70D, much like the 1D series originally pioneered.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: masterhks on May 26, 2015, 06:43:56 PM
@TechnoPilot - softness is only by VF not in LV and i calibrate lens few time but one time is +3 next time is +9 or +12, send to canon and back my camera and lens without fixed problem, and the 7D MARK II have the same problem but now with the new firmware 1.0.4 problem is solved....
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: TechnoPilot on May 26, 2015, 06:55:16 PM
Quote from: masterhks on May 26, 2015, 06:43:56 PM
@TechnoPilot - softness is only by VF not in LV and i calibrate lens few time but one time is +3 next time is +9 or +12, send to canon and back my camera and lens without fixed problem, and the 7D MARK II have the same problem but now with the new firmware 1.0.4 problem is solved....
@masterhks - I hate to say but that sounds like either a specific problem with your body or lens.  I have not had any problem with my 70D on my f1.2, f1.4 or f1.8 lenses other then the need for one of them needing a calibration value that does fix it long-term.  I hate to say but I'm pretty positive what you are talking about though is not a general firmware issue for the 70D, are in the scope of Magic Lantern at this point, and definitely aren't in the scope of this alpha build.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chrisfrancia on May 26, 2015, 07:59:28 PM
have you checked the diopter setting on your VF?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bigorna on May 26, 2015, 08:31:42 PM
The diopter only affect the viewfinder, so it has nothing to do about this behavior either.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bigorna on May 26, 2015, 09:22:25 PM
Quote from: masterhks on May 26, 2015, 06:43:56 PM
@TechnoPilot - softness is only by VF not in LV and i calibrate lens few time but one time is +3 next time is +9 or +12, send to canon and back my camera and lens without fixed problem, and the 7D MARK II have the same problem but now with the new firmware 1.0.4 problem is solved....

I still suspect that a different AFMA may be needed for different subject distances. I don't know how you did your tests, anyway I have to investigate this further.
I own a Canon 50mm 1.4

This thread should not be used for this discussion. Feel free to PM me if you want to exchange experiences about this, though.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: MysteriousLight on May 26, 2015, 10:58:21 PM
Sorry if this had already been adressed. I read about 10 pages and i havent seenit adressed directly. I havent installed the alpha build but im planning on testing it once it gets to beta. 

The current duration time for maximum resolition of 1800something x 764 is at 15 seconds. I read somewhere that there is a "movie restart" function to circumvent the 29:59 recording limit but not used for the higher resolution raw files. 

My question would be is the short duration time being worked on? Meaning do the developers intend to eventually increase the recording time to continuous for maximum resolution.

Im new to magic lantern so im not sure if this is a common ML quirk. Im planning on using ML for recording hour long footages so im interested in knowing developments regarding this issue.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 26, 2015, 11:06:01 PM
1800 x 764 x 24 x 14 / 8 = 55 MByte/s required with 24 fps.
SD-card interface in 70D is limited to about 41 MByte/s and is nothing you can do about.
Mission impossible.

Lower frame rate or resolution.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: MysteriousLight on May 27, 2015, 01:45:28 AM
So it seems to be a hardware limitation.

As far as im aware of the current limitations of 70d are the 4gb, 30 minute limit, and also the 41 mbps write speed.

So if i plan on shooting 30 minutes i would need to reduce the resolutions to around 1500x600p. (1500x600x24x14/8=38mbps) Drawing from this, ML Is preferable for film projects that usually have 1 minute scenes and not for documentary type of productions that have 20+  minutes of continuous footage.

At this point im wondering if a 1500x600 RAW footage would beat a 1920x1080 h264. That will give me less detail when it comes to resolution but more detail when it comes to color depth. Dont take this as a slgith against ML and all the work that went into it,  but since 1080p is now becoming industry standard, im guessing 1080p with h264 would probably be a better bet than a 14 bit raw video at half the resolution since i doubt upscaling 600p to 1080p would cut it even if it is 14bit.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on May 27, 2015, 04:05:44 AM
Quote from: MysteriousLight on May 27, 2015, 01:45:28 AM
...Drawing from this, ML Is preferable for film projects that usually have 1 minute scenes and not for documentary type of productions that have 20+  minutes of continuous footage....

Dont take this as a slgith against ML and all the work that went into it,  but since 1080p is now becoming industry standard, im guessing 1080p with h264 would probably be a better bet than a 14 bit raw video at half the resolution since i doubt upscaling 600p to 1080p would cut it even if it is 14bit.

No, not really....  As already stated, it's a hardware limitation of the 70D.   If you need 20+ minutes of continuous footage at 1920x1080 24fps 14-bit RAW, then get a 5D Mark III and put ML on it.  The CF card interface of the 5D3 is plenty fast enough to accomplish your needs and ML runs beautifully on it for your RAW shooting pleasure.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 27, 2015, 08:54:21 AM
30 minutes limit in RAW mode for 70D has yet to be confirmed. All other cams are doing seamless recording for +30 minutes with latest ML builds.
Wondering why nobody tested it yet ...

There seems to be a bug in H.264 operation, though. ML (for other cams) will automatically restart recording after 29:59:59 break (loosing about 0.5 seconds during transistion). 70D's switch seems not to work, according to testers.
And there is no 4 GB limit in 70D. Canon implemented file splitt without frame loss in H.264 some time ago for 650D and others.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: MysteriousLight on May 27, 2015, 10:47:40 AM
QuoteNo, not really....  As already stated, it's a hardware limitation of the 70D.   If you need 20+ minutes of continuous footage at 1920x1080 24fps 14-bit RAW, then get a 5D Mark III and put ML on it.  The CF card interface of the 5D3 is plenty fast enough to accomplish your needs and ML runs beautifully on it for your RAW shooting pleasure.
5D Mark III is certainly up there when it comes to future purchases. I'm comparing it to GH4 which has 4k, but only has 8 bit color depth.

Quote30 minutes limit in RAW mode for 70D has yet to be confirmed. And there is no 4 GB limit in 70D. Canon implemented file splitt without frame loss in H.264 some time ago for 650D and others.
All other cams are doing seamless recording for +30 minutes with latest ML builds.
Wondering why nobody tested it yet ...

There seems to be a bug in H.264 operation, though. ML (for other cams) will automatically restart recording after 29:59:59 break (loosing about 0.5 seconds during transistion). 70D's switch seems not to work, according to testers.
My mistake 4gb limit was not 70d but due to the fat32 disks. It's not that big of an issue for me since it doesn't stop the recording. 30 minutes is when it stops and that is usually my main issue since I sometimes find myself recording along steep cliffs and slippery terrain that me not needing to go back multiple times to press the record button is not only more convenient but a lot safer.

I do wonder, again forgive my lack of knowledge of ML, but could I possibly adjust the bit depth to perhaps 10 bit and record close to 1080p? That would be the ideal trade off?Something like 1536x864? 1536x864x24x10/8=40mbps.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 27, 2015, 10:54:44 AM
10bit RAW: Not an option right now.
If there ever will be: No idea.
Take a look into HDMI recording, though.
Camcorder might suit your needs better, I suppose.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 27, 2015, 02:28:15 PM
What is possible for RAW video at higher resolutions, is to start a new clip after a skipped frame.
There will be a lag or time lost between clips.  This is mission possible for 70D, and is done on the 5DM3.

I am curious to know how fast a new movie can be started after a skip frame? 

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 27, 2015, 02:34:16 PM
It is not necessary to restart after skipped frame. There is option "Frame skipping" in MLV submenu.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on May 28, 2015, 12:12:11 PM
When can we expect to see audio monitoring?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 28, 2015, 01:50:26 PM
So having compared auto-ISO & ISO range of ML, as set in autoexposure module,  on 600D with 70D
Its confirmed there is a bug, ISO range is not working when ISO is set to Auto.

I tried an ISO  range of 100-800, and found with auto ISO it would routinely go to 6400, 3200, 1600 depending on lighting.
It works fine on 600D.

Still looking for a bug entry log.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on May 28, 2015, 01:52:45 PM
Quote from: Frarike on May 28, 2015, 12:12:11 PM
When can we expect to see audio monitoring?

There is an excellent comprehensive answer to that question here (http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/faq#when_will_you_implement_xyz)...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on May 28, 2015, 02:21:24 PM
Quote from: JohnnyG_71 on May 28, 2015, 01:52:45 PM
There is an excellent comprehensive answer to that question here (http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/faq#when_will_you_implement_xyz)...

I'm sure you think you are so smart and funny. However if you were you would realise that I was just asking if it was being worked on. I'm also sorry that your life is lacking something otherwise so you wouldn't have to post boring remarks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on May 28, 2015, 02:29:49 PM
Quote from: Frarike on May 28, 2015, 02:21:24 PM
I'm sure you think you are so smart and funny. However if you were you would realise that I was just asking if it was being worked on. I'm also sorry that your life is lacking something otherwise so you wouldn't have to post boring remarks.

My deepest apologies...   That question is actually answered in detail here (http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/faq#any_progress_on_xyz)...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: snakec on May 28, 2015, 06:59:05 PM
What news for Dual iso & Lightroom 6/camera raw 9 ????
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 28, 2015, 07:14:24 PM
What are you missing?
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 29, 2015, 01:09:22 AM
@Walter Schulz:

So I've finally gotten myself a 64GB Sandisk Extreme Plus SD card (80MB/s) and wanted to give the 70D a try with the 30+ mins continuous recording for MLV/RAW -- however I have a question to ask because when I set the MLV into smaller resolution such as 1280x720 in 23.97fps in order to try and surpass the 30 minute mark without filling up the card with the May 10 build from @nikfreak's post (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg147228#msg147228post) #986.

Apparently with that setting I was only able to get to about 26 minutes of MLV footage (yes I set it in exFAT) before it ran out of space -- so the real question is should I set the resolution to smaller sizes in order to try and pass the 30 minute mark or would you rather have me get a bigger card? lol

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7765/18023816810_0ffbd4af12_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/tsGLNf)

For some reason, I don't think MLRV likes the spanning files directly from 70D because it won't playback at all on my 2006 MBP.

I think it would be ideal to try this test again with smaller resolution just to see if it works -- correct?

Thanks, W!

p.s. As soon as I get home from work and will try these files again on my more powerful Mac Mini to confirm this furthermore.

*UPDATE*

Well I aggressively decided to try again and this time I only wanted to run it through just once (one MLV file was 63.85GB) as oppose to multiple files with multiple spanning files all over the directory (which I think it was causing the issue in playback earlier) and it played back just fine in MLRV with the new file... so I'm pretty sure it works just as long as you have enough space on your card as well as certain resolution to compensate for the 30+ minutes depending on your card spec's as well.

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7730/17592689713_dbc930893e_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sNB8Jr) (https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7767/18214911091_776149f8e7_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/tKAbte)

https://vimeo.com/129173791 (https://vimeo.com/129173791)

So does this mean it is good news for all of us, after all?

*UPDATE #2*

Confirmed on my Mac Mini (works well with MLVFS -- Thanks @dmilligan):

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7729/18222591691_c87d67cf20_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/tLgxDn) (https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7760/17600757273_9bd36cd578_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sPjtWi)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mallowsm on May 29, 2015, 05:14:32 PM
Is there any news on getting clean unconpressed video via the hdmi. Someone said i should enter some code and left it at that. No explanation into how
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: MysteriousLight on May 30, 2015, 01:13:21 AM
QuoteApparently with that setting I was only able to get to about 26 minutes of MLV footage (yes I set it in exFAT) before it ran out of space -- so the real question is should I set the resolution to smaller sizes in order to try and pass the 30 minute mark or would you rather have me get a bigger card? lol

I'm thinking of upgrading my SD card for this. As stated before 70d can only take advantage of up to 41MB/s but tests show it's actually in the 38MB/s. If 26 minutes at that resolution would take 64 gb, its probably a good idea to buy the biggest possible capacity of sd card which is the 256 gb.

Extreme pro 95MB/s seems overkill so would this suffice for maximum performance with 70d RAW? -> SanDisk Extreme 256GB U3/UHS-I SDXC with 4K Ultra HD, Up to 80MB/s Read;60MB/s Write- SDSDXN-256G-G46 (http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-Write--SDSDXN-256G-G46-Version/dp/B00P870LOK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1432940761&sr=8-1&keywords=256+sandisk)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 30, 2015, 06:28:53 AM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on May 29, 2015, 01:09:22 AM
@Walter Schulz:
So does this mean it is good news for all of us, after all?

I supposed 70D would do fine in this respect and it is nice to have it confirmed. Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Matheus on May 31, 2015, 04:40:42 AM
Well, today I finally got time to mess around with the FPS Override setting AND with the MLV video setting, by trying a timelapse.
It worked well (FPS Override only works in High-Jello mode, though), but strangely enough, my video started to show some weird noise bands after a few minutes of recording:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IOeJsSrWEg

And more strange yet, right after recording it, if I took a picture, the image would come out cleanly, as if nothing happened.
Any ideas?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 06:38:25 AM
I get the same result Matheuss. I would suggest you try full-resolution silent pictures (MLV) + intervalometer for your next timelapse untill FPS override is fixed. I will disable it completely with the next update cause I already spent a felt multiple hundreds hours only for this issue and it doesn't look like the fix will come up shortly...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 09:48:42 AM
Updated first post with new download links. read changelog.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 31, 2015, 09:49:52 AM
Just in time for my birthday...

Thanks @nikfreak for the update!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 10:08:22 AM
Offtopic: me <<<<is Gemini, too. @DeafEyeJeydi Happy B-Day.

Ontopic quoting a1ex (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg147229#msg147229):
Quote...

Because the number of menu options is huge, I'm not asking one user to perform all the tests. Just pick a few features you are interested in, and test them thoroughly.

Before including the 70D in the nightly builds, I'll disable all the features for which no feedback was received.

Any volunteers with time for doing some kind of basic overview table (Example1 (http://magiclantern.fm/features.html) / Example2 (https://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/features)) for 70D.111A or 70D.111B (guess one would suffice) based on the available menu features latest download??

Hint: There's also a Burn-in test called "Quick test (around 15 min)" in debug menu which you can run!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 31, 2015, 10:36:27 AM
Thanks & Just downloaded Alpha 6 -- will test thoroughly as much as possible and report back to you!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: X-STATE on May 31, 2015, 12:18:34 PM
hi!
Alpha6 does not show the shutter speed in LV mode - display N/A

still not working dual ISO in the video mode
continue to wait ... :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 12:22:04 PM
true and confirmed for movie mode! Please keep up testing (read changelog from 1st post to see what to look for) and use top-lcd for reading shutter speed ;-) i will keep an eye on that small issue and post an update at a later time. Let's see what else might not working first.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: cenkog on May 31, 2015, 12:23:52 PM
Which version should I download for my new 70D? B or A?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 12:31:57 PM
try both. if wrong camera it will display what to do. Just try. No risk.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on May 31, 2015, 01:27:09 PM
I have the same problem with the old version. In live view if I press the zoom in button the camera freeze. Only solution is to remove the battery. If I turn off the camera the LV is on.

None have this problem? Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 02:12:52 PM
Quote from: bredy on May 31, 2015, 01:27:09 PM
I have the same problem with the old version. In live view if I press the zoom in button the camera freeze. Only solution is to remove the battery. If I turn off the camera the LV is on.

None have this problem? Thanks.

Can't reproduce on 70D.111A. Neither in LV nor Movie Mode. You got B? If so anybody else can confirm?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Conaxe on May 31, 2015, 02:34:44 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 02:12:52 PM
Can't reproduce on 70D.111A. Neither in LV nor Movie Mode. You got B? If so anybody else can confirm?
Got version B. Works fine in photo and video mode.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on May 31, 2015, 03:49:40 PM
I have the B version. The problem are in LiveView and MovieMode. Only in viewfinder the zoomin button works normal.

Magic zoom: off
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 04:20:50 PM
See answer before yours. Looks like there's maybe some misconfiguration on your cam. Tried to use another sdcard withfresh installed (default settings) ML?? If not it would be a good idea to try and report back what happens...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on May 31, 2015, 05:07:48 PM
I try with another card and I don't have the problem. Thanks

The first card is SanDisk Extreme 45MB/s with this I have problem
The second card is SanDisk Extreme Pro 95MB/s with this I don't have problem.

with everyone I start with default option of Canon 70D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 31, 2015, 05:14:17 PM
45MB/s card: Delete Autoexec.bin and *.FIR and ML directory from card. Copy Autoexec.bin. *.FIR and ML directory from 95MB/s card to 45MB/s card. Retry and report.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nk87 on May 31, 2015, 05:40:02 PM
I have the problem with magic zoom: I can't move this focus box (I can do it only when I call standart focus box). How to solve this problem? Is this bug or I can fix it in settings?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Frarike on May 31, 2015, 06:07:22 PM
I can't change the position of where to focus with magic zoom either. This is in manual focus on version A.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 06:28:55 PM
Quote from: Frarike on May 31, 2015, 06:07:22 PM
I can't change the position of where to focus with magic zoom either. This is in manual focus on version A.

Sounds like: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/59e7b48f0124
Noted down for next update. keep on testing

Update: Fixed in repository and available with next update. see source. Not fixed. Backed it out again. Causes weird issues in LV/MV with autofocus.... Let's try again  ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mr.Click on May 31, 2015, 07:36:50 PM
Quote from: Mr.Click on May 04, 2015, 09:46:28 PM
"I have an issue with the Alpha 5 A build, in Playback mode the Touchscreen sometimes freezes while zooming in. I have to leave Playbackmode to get the Touchscreen working again. It doesn´t matter if Quickzoom is enabled or not. It sometimes just freezes."

Edit: I found out that this Problem only appears, after I erased a Picture during Playback Mode, after erasing, the Touchscreen gets freezed.
I now went back to the earlier ML Version ( Alpha 4b) , with this Version,the Issue is gone. It only apears with the Alpha 5 A.

Thank you for the new Alpha 6. :)  I still have this Issue with this Build. I went back to Alpha 4b again, wich works best for my needs on my 70D till now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on May 31, 2015, 07:42:42 PM
@Walter Schulz I try your solution. Now I don't have problem never with Sd 45MB/s. Mistery
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ontheset on May 31, 2015, 07:53:39 PM
Tried everything.....I wanna throw it off the roof


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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 31, 2015, 08:01:23 PM
@ontheset: Restore cam's factory settings and delete ML directory, autoexec.bin from card and copy extracted Alpha6 files to card.

Retry and report.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 08:18:36 PM
Quote from: Mr.Click on May 31, 2015, 07:36:50 PM
Thank you for the new Alpha 6. :)  I still have this Issue with this Build. I went back to Alpha 4b again, wich works best for my needs on my 70D till now.

Hey Mr.Click. Please use Alpha6. As a workaround for your issue simply don't delete in cam or don't do it if you know you will need touch-af. reading through my own changelog's I notice that 4b was a cherry-picked build, meaning that I additionally added code parts from other branches which still might not be merged into the unified branch. I'll have a closer look again into it. But again I urge everyone to use Alpha6 and report their findings. Logs show that alpha6 has least problems compared to all earlier builds. Just awaiting still some confirmation from others regarding battery consumption, temperature feelings around wheel buttons or even measured/compared raw temperatures from debug menu (raw value), reported hot pixel starting at ISO 800 while raw recording and so on...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Mr.Click on May 31, 2015, 09:11:29 PM
ok I will give it a 2nd try  :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 31, 2015, 09:59:10 PM
Ok so here my very video centric report.

General Video
Crop Marks __ working
Framing RAW & MLV _ working
Focus peaks ___ working
RGB histo__ working
ISO=Auto & Autoexposure ISO Range __ not working
Variable bit rate __ not available
fps rate_ _not available (worked somewhat in May 10th)
Focus Steps Screen( ++ -- - +) __ not available

Crop Mode 3X High Resolution (IPB 1280p, @2.39, 60fps, Zoom=5X):
2560x1072,@2.39, 30fps/ 74 frames (not sure its 60 fps, playback very slow) Note ML sets it from 60 fps to 30 fps after 5X zoom, would need fps override, yet on my 600D fps=60 did not bring back to 60 fps either?
2048x856, @2.39, 30fps/152 frames (not sure its 60 fps, playback very slow)
1920x804, @2.39, 30 fps/204 frames (not sure its 60 fps, playback very slow)
LV Screen at 3X   __ (no colour only B&W this is ML AUTO if use Canon its colour), record  freezes it (MF & blindly record frames).

1X Mode (IPB 1920p, @2.35, 24 fps)
1824x776, 24fps/ 372frames
LV Screen at 1X _ works

Hot Pixel Counts in Low Light (LongExp.NR=On, Hi.ISO NR=Strong, HTP=Off, 1824x764 @2.35, 24 fps)
ISO 100 ~ 20+ hot pixels *** Remarkably worse than previous!!! reloaded May 10th which was very usable to ISO 800.
ISO 1600, 1920x804/30 fps/505 frames ~117 skipped = 5-6 hot pixels, but in dark shadow a lot of noise (this is what mislead before, its not hot pixels but speckled noise in shadows)
Its seems to be lower hot pixels at ISO 1600, but noticeable shadow noise!
Tried Exposure->ISO Advanced -> set ML ISO to -2EV, got rid of noise.  But I am not sure what's going on with it,
since I set ISO to 1600, but equiv. ISO reports 400 equivalent, and its certainly not an ISO 1600 exposure, so it looks to be pushing it down 400 (-2Ev). 
Meaning ISO 1600 shadow noise is not prevented.  So now there is two low light categories Hot Pixels & High ISO shadow noise.

Dual ISO video _ need to check out.
Start after Frame Skip __ working
-  got 406 frames at 1824x776, with over 100 skips which seems a bit high.
-  Retried on May 10th at 3X mode, 1920x804 @ 30fps and ran for some 507 frames/220 skips. 

   
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 10:31:49 PM
Cannnot seem to find one dead hot/pixel at ISO800! Also can't reproduce BW issues you are describing. Crop and all zomes modes work fine for me on 70D.111A. You got 70D.111B, right?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 31, 2015, 10:41:21 PM
Shoot in shadows at 1824 @ 2.35, then come up into dim light.  Rev B yes.
And for LV freeze, ensure you set a very high res. around 2K, the only way to get there is Canon 1280p/60 fps, the set ML_raw to 2K res, @ 2.39, then 5X zoom. Hit record & freezes - that's the bug!
The default to grey scale LV is actually default mode of ML at high resolutions, so that's not a bug. And from what others report its always been a very pixelated display.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: flyguygamer on June 01, 2015, 12:57:01 AM
I'm unable to install either version. With each the camera things there isn't a firware package there.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on June 01, 2015, 08:45:43 AM
The problem is not solved.

Canon 70D with all setting standard.
ML fresh installation.
Go in Live View
Press Info for view the ML overlay.
Then press AF Point Selection/Magic Zoom two time. First time no problem, from the second the live view button freeze.

Then try to exit from LV.

For me the only solution is to remove the battery.

In the post before i write problem solved because I don't set the ML overlay.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 01, 2015, 08:52:01 AM
You started to describe a problem with cards behaving differently.
Do you have different behaviour now or are both cards showing the same problem?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 01, 2015, 09:03:48 AM
I don't get it either. Seems unusual use case or like that. What about that press INFO button?? I might recheck myself at a later time but we did that and it was confirmed by others to work too. I would say use Global Draw option. Either on or off. Pressing Info button might indicate some problem with LV_BUFFER. Best would be you post some EDMAC screenshot on my other thread but I will try to replicate. In the meanwhile can bredy confirm what happens with MZ set to "Alwas on"?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 01, 2015, 09:16:13 AM
I suppose he is trying to say pushing zoom button twice in movie mode will stall cam. Happened with other cams, too.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on June 01, 2015, 02:48:38 PM
The problem are with all card. Same problem.
Global draw are setting standard "Always On".

I press Info button to see the ML Overlay, because with canon overlay display I don't have problem.

With Magic zoom active No problem found.

I press zoom button two time because the first time I don't have problem, the second time I press the Zoom the LV button freeze.

Sorry, but I don't speak english well.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: a1ex on June 01, 2015, 03:32:57 PM
Not sure I understand the issue correctly.

If you are in movie mode, and RAW or MLV is enabled:
- with Global Draw ON, press zoom twice. Result? (I assume crash)
- with Global Draw OFF, press zoom twice. Result? if it doesn't crash, it's probably related to display filters. Try disabling the grayscale preview in RAW/MLV submenu.

If it still crashes, disable RAW/MLV recording and press zoom twice. If it doesn't crash, CONFIG_RAW_DISABLE_IN_10X_ZOOM in internals.h should help (see for example 5D2 or 550D).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: devomk on June 01, 2015, 04:40:40 PM
Greetings to all members. Im new here and this is my first post/reply. I got 70D since half year and now i wanna try the ML sensation.  Im not lazy to read the all 47 pages of this tread, but mostly members are just complaning and reporting the bugs. I saw some short video how to uninstall the ML, which leads me to my question. It is true possible to uninstall the ML in case i don't like it. I just wanna try the famous RAW video before i bring my conto in minus and buy GH4.

P.S. I like to ask a favor for the OP to refresh tiny the first post with more info, snapsots... links of videos how to install, menu setup for us (read:noobs)... e.t.c.

Advance thx for answers
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on June 01, 2015, 05:00:41 PM
@a1ex

The problem are in LV mode and Movie mode. The same only with Global Draw ON and active in screen. From display without information I press 4 time Info Button and I see the ML overlay graphics.

With Global Draw Off don't crash, because the dispaly don't have ML overlay graphics.

Where is the RAW/MLV submenu?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ontheset on June 01, 2015, 05:05:55 PM
@Walter

Ok resetting the camera fixed that problem but  in dual iso activated it takes 4 consequtive pictures with lines on the image.

I have the B revision
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 01, 2015, 05:13:06 PM
The LV high res. 3X crop mode bug, that I find is sounds like what Walter is talking about.

1280p/60 fps, @2.39, 2k res. (2560 or 2048) selected in either RAW or MLVRAW, hit zoom twice to get 5X,
- ML will set fps to 30 fps from 60fps,  (would be nice if fps could be set using fps override to say 60 fps).
- after hit record then LV starts to stall, update so slow as you are now shooting blind. 
- if in ML RAW settings, I use ML preview default, it sets ML grey scale, which is very pixelated, or if I select Canon preview in colour but Canon's framing (this is not the bug that's Canon for you) ~  both stall to the point of being unusable.  You are shooting MF blind at that point but it is recording frames! (that's the bug no LV).

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: a1ex on June 01, 2015, 05:15:15 PM
@bredy:

I assume you are not using RAW recording, so it must be some overlay. Can you try with global draw on, and anything else disabled in the Overlay menu?

Just in case, can you also try in photo mode LV, with picture quality set to JPG in Canon menu?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on June 01, 2015, 05:41:11 PM
@a1ex

The problem is in Photo mode with LV active, RAW or Jpeg is same don't change.

But in Video Mode I try and I have the same problem.

If I active the Magic Zoom in Overlay Menù I don't have the problem.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Conaxe on June 01, 2015, 05:41:22 PM
Quote from: devomk on June 01, 2015, 04:40:40 PM
Greetings to all members. Im new here and this is my first post/reply. I got 70D since half year and now i wanna try the ML sensation.  Im not lazy to read the all 47 pages of this tread, but mostly members are just complaning and reporting the bugs. I saw some short video how to uninstall the ML, which leads me to my question. It is true possible to uninstall the ML in case i don't like it. I just wanna try the famous RAW video before i bring my conto in minus and buy GH4.

P.S. I like to ask a favor for the OP to refresh tiny the first post with more info, snapsots... links of videos how to install, menu setup for us (read:noobs)... e.t.c.

Advance thx for answers
Welcome to the forum! You can uninstall ML. By formatting the card within the Canon menu. Pressing 'Q' will keep or remove ML.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 01, 2015, 05:51:40 PM
This information is not correct. By formatting you will remove Magic Lantern's files and directories from card and make the card non-bootable.
Cam's bootflag will still be there.
If you want to know how to uninstall please read first post of this thread.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: devomk on June 01, 2015, 05:58:00 PM
Thx gor the quick answers. I was good in android decompiling/recompiling and my brother is programer. If i can i will glad help in further developing for this trEad.

Regards!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 01, 2015, 07:09:15 PM
Quote from: ontheset on June 01, 2015, 05:05:55 PM
@Walter

Ok resetting the camera fixed that problem but  in dual iso activated it takes 4 consequtive pictures with lines on the image.

I have the B revision

I think I can't understand what you want. Lines in dualiso is kind of normal. Did you convert and edit in post?  ;D If so post a smal picture before and after editing. 4 pics in a row? No need to use bracketing with dualiso...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: devomk on June 01, 2015, 07:26:00 PM
With all respect Herr @Schulz. On the first post don't have instructions how to remove ML. I just format the card as i saw on some video. And i think seems all good.

Thats why i was talking the OP gotta put some more instructions on the first post, except the changelog.

Good work btw. Im not happy with the limitation of the raw video. But otherwise almost all seems good.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 01, 2015, 07:31:24 PM
@Walter

        Your "first post of this thread" & My first post of this thread must somehow be Different as each time that I see you tell people too

read the first post of this thread to find out how to uninstall ML, I go there (just for curiosity) to see if I can find it & I am UnableTo ~

What am I Missing ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 01, 2015, 07:42:44 PM
Quote from: devomk on June 01, 2015, 07:26:00 PMOn the first post don't have instructions how to remove ML.

Willing to bet there is no info how to remove cam's bootflag? It's there.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 01, 2015, 07:48:07 PM
I added a note for uninstalling magic lantern to the 1st post. The installer states what to do, right?

Quote from: devomk on June 01, 2015, 07:26:00 PM
Thats why i was talking the OP gotta put some more instructions on the first post, except the changelog.

My goal is rather to become officially merged into nightlies and then re-open a new thread. This one will be left as it is and closed if we get official one day. It will help new devs / porters to have an idea what to expect and how and what to ask from testers. They'll lbe able to copy&paste 1st post for their dev work...

Quote from: Walter Schulz on June 01, 2015, 07:42:44 PM
Willing to bet there is no info how to remove cam's bootflag?

I added it 2 mins ago :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 01, 2015, 07:49:16 PM
No, it was there long time ago. In screenshot, bottom line. Attention to details, folks! <eg>
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: TechnoPilot on June 01, 2015, 07:58:57 PM
I hate to say to those that seem to be having a hard time figuring out how to install or uninstall ML, this was my first ever time using the software on a Canon camera and it was very easy to install and even simpler to uninstall.  Something I really want to thank Nikfreak for tackling since the Rev B release.  I just feel that with it being SO SIMPLE now, he, along with the rest of the testers, should not have to dedicate so much time to items that are not bug correction related.

Honestly the only thing I wish that was easier was rolling the install over onto my other cards without having to use extra software to make them bootable.

While I think it is great that we are improving the instructions for using the software, I feel like the information is already quite accessible and if you are unable to do the basic research, then perhaps an Alpha build isn't for you.  Just my two cents and should be taken with a grain of salt as a techie, but I really wanted to weight in on the efforts that are having to be made on items that are very easily sorted out with a little Googling or reading.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: devomk on June 01, 2015, 08:31:27 PM
Thx to Nikfreak for the "tip".. when i was installing  (for me A version ) i saw the countdown in the bottom.
And for  @TechnoPilot Klugscheißer, you don't have to be rude... after all, big wins coming with small steps.  Since 3 years i developing my own firmware for smartphones. I don't think that 1.6mb update gonna be problem for me...

Keep with doing great work developers... im with you 100%
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: TechnoPilot on June 01, 2015, 08:39:21 PM
Quote from: devomk on June 01, 2015, 08:31:27 PM
Thx to Nikfreak for the "tip".. when i was installing  (for me A version ) i saw the countdown in the bottom.
And for  @TechnoPilot Klugscheißer, you don't have to be rude... after all, big wins coming with small steps.  Since 3 years i developing my own firmware for smartphones. I don't think that 1.6mb update gonna be problem for me...

Keep with doing great work developers... im with you 100%
@devomk - It was not meant at all to be rude or insulting, but instead just a bit of a reality check on the efforts put into answering searchable questions.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 02, 2015, 03:09:24 AM
Ok spent some more time to zero in on the LV 3Xmode high res bug.
It seems that raw preview set to default or ML greyscale is the problem. 
In that mode the focus peaks and the picture start to stall.
Preview set to Canon is pretty good LV action, I tried 2560x1072 with frame skip on, and was able to get 30 fps/ 100 frames for instance + a lot of skips mind you. 
So perhaps use Canon preview andsome marks for your crop when shooting 3X mode, high res.

Hot Pixels:
ISO 1600 ~ 4-6, after 300 frames
ISO 400 ~ 1-2, after 100 frames

Noisy Shadows, I did this using Sigma 50-150mm f2.8 glass.
ISO 1600, f2.8, 30 fps shutter 1/160, 5X zoom, is very noisy in shadows.
ISO 400, f2.8, 30 fps shutter 1/60, 5X zoom, is very good in shadows.
So I expect f1.4 glass will help a lot if you want higher shutter & low noise in shadows.


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on June 02, 2015, 09:28:16 AM
@a1ex nikfreak

I try to define the problem with Photo LiveView Mode.

The problem is only when in LiveView I set autofocus to 'Face detection + Tracking' and enable ML overlay graphic.
Then:
Active LV mode.
Set Global Draw to all mode and active on display with Info Button. You have to see the ML overlay graphic in LV.
Set Autofocus in LV to 'Face detection + Tracking'.
RAW or JPEG are same.

Now press ZoomIn button two time

The LV Button crash. The solution is remove the battery.

If I set the other Autofocus mode or MF I don't have problem.
If with same configuration I active Magic zoom with trigger mode set only to ZoomIn I don't have problem.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: pontius on June 02, 2015, 10:44:37 AM
Hi, so far I've tested alpha6, on movie mode ML overlay reports shutter speed as 'n/a' and MLV metadata 'infinity' or 0/1000.
Also I had no dead pixels on RAW video with alpha5b and now with alpha6 there are lots of them. Of course I can get rid of bad pixels easily with mlvfs using --bad-pix switch but processing frames will be lot slower.
Alpha5b example (http://i.imgur.com/PJoKf91.jpg)
Alpha6 example (http://i.imgur.com/HgD1T6D.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: X-STATE on June 02, 2015, 12:23:08 PM
Quote from: pontius on June 02, 2015, 10:44:37 AM
Also I had no dead pixels on RAW video with alpha5b and now with alpha6 there are lots of them. Of course I can get rid of bad pixels easily with mlvfs using --bad-pix switch but processing frames will be lot slower.
is there any other way to remove hot pixels when converting to DNG?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 02, 2015, 01:30:49 PM
Some sum-up:
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: pontius on June 02, 2015, 03:08:27 PM
Quote from: X-STATE on June 02, 2015, 12:23:08 PM
is there any other way to remove hot pixels when converting to DNG?
For MLV->DNG conversion I don't know other option than mlvfs with bad-pix option enabled, but if converting DNG to PNG is no problem then one can use some image processing software like GMIC with batch/bash script to apply dead pixel removal for every image file.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 02, 2015, 05:13:48 PM
@Nik

Also need to bug track the ISO=AUTO & ISO range not working in Auto Exposure.
This is crucial for low light, low noise/hot pixels shooting.

I am also wondering, and perhaps Alex/Walter can advise but it seems
that Canon ISO=AUTO & Canon's ISO Range, there should be a way that essentially turns off ML ISO handling
and returns things back to Canon default (presently this is buried in Autoexposure = ON additional parameters).  Most video is shot in Manual mode, with Auto ISO/range limited, so this is very useful for video.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 02, 2015, 05:29:25 PM
@ Pontius & Any Hot Pixel Reports

You have to realize that all cameras will eventually get hot pixels.  So its not entirely preventable.
That said there are number of things one must do, to minimize hot pixels and eliminate dead pixels, and that's why I am putting this out here, so folks dont just automatically report hot pixels without checking the preventables first.

1. Clean your sensor (inspect it and ensure there is nothing on it, the auto dust sensor is not enough!)
2. Sensor remap your hot/dead pixels (especially important if you see them all the time these are dead pixels).
3. Long.Exposure.NR=ON
4. Hi ISO.NR = STRONG
5. Highlight TP = OFF
6. Remove any VAF

Caution on low light tests:
High ISO creates shadow noise, which looks like random hot pixels.
Focus peaks ON, can mimic random noise when your screen is black or out of focus, turn it off, and recheck.
5X or 10X zooms, will be noisier than regular.  You may need to adjust exposure to compensate.

After having done that hot pixels should increase over-time/frames & increase in number with increased ISO.
If you see many hot pixels right at the start, something else is probably wrong (or your at some sky-high ISO).


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 02, 2015, 05:42:22 PM
Quote from: ShootMeAlready on June 02, 2015, 05:13:48 PMI am also wondering, and perhaps Alex/Walter can advise

You mistake me for a dev but I'm not. And no 70D around to play with.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 02, 2015, 07:05:57 PM
@NikFreak & @Bredy

           Just attempted to Duplicate Bredys LV/AFFD LockUp & Can't make it happen ~

Hard to be AbsolutelySure I have AllSettings SameAs Bredy ~~    111.B
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 02, 2015, 07:11:25 PM
@bredy: Zip your ML\Settings directory, upload it somewhere and link it here. So others can use your ML settings for debugging your problem.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on June 02, 2015, 07:40:59 PM
Are you sure have activated on the LCD the ML display?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: devomk on June 02, 2015, 07:49:53 PM
Guys. I kind a reset the shutter count yesterday when i flash the firmware. Its that normal? ... i know it's awesome
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 02, 2015, 07:52:09 PM
No, it is not normal and should definitely not happen at all.
Please post a screenshot showing shutter count status.
And by "flashing firmware" you meant "firmware update" using ML?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: devomk on June 02, 2015, 08:09:45 PM
Im on phone now. Yesterday before i flash the firmaware i had ocer 400 counts (I use the flashing word cause we use that word in xda Forum). After that ivwas removing the firmware with deliting it from sd card, and went outsude to take pictures. Today before i start shooting i had just 59 counts.... now i got 103. Cause im outside and taking pictures. I don't making up.. swear to my kids

http://s3.postimg.org/bf0lbr12r/20150602_200610.jpg


This is my count before 3 days. When i removed the canon from selling on ebay

http://s29.postimg.org/yzrlknbrr/Screenshot_2015_06_02_20_14_27.png
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 02, 2015, 08:35:47 PM
Please check Debug tab -> Shutter Count.
The numbers you are showing are telling how much pics have been taken after battery was loaded last time (AFAIK).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: devomk on June 02, 2015, 08:46:10 PM
OK. now i feel embarrassed. ... where to find Debug exactly? 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 02, 2015, 09:12:00 PM
Debug is a tab and part of the ML menu. Browse through Debug menu to find shutter count.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: devomk on June 02, 2015, 10:23:37 PM
My mistake... as i said, i feel embarrassed. I had to install again the ML to found out.

http://s28.postimg.org/bxvfro6ot/20150602_221624.jpg

The shutter speed in video mode can't be charged btw. Is that got some connection with the raw mode filming?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 02, 2015, 10:27:20 PM
@Bredy & @NikFreak

             In ML/Display/AdvancedSettings, set ScreenLayout to "3:2 display,t/b" & ReportBack ~

Was able to Dup' your issue with your Sett's ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 02, 2015, 11:05:35 PM
@Devomk

  " The shutter speed in video mode can't be charged btw. "

           Can Do if in Any Overlay/InfoScreen OtherThan ML ~ ML Overlay/InfoScreen shows N/A ~ But according to TopPanel  it is being changed ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: pierre2fun on June 02, 2015, 11:22:28 PM
Hello,

Testing the wonderfull silent picture mode using 70bv6 (Thanks, Alex).

I am afraid not succeded saving a Hres in DNG or MLV format.
The shutter (shot) did not works, idem with half-S but using the intervalometer and half-S two times after an AF ack seems working and display a message "set picture quality to RAW" but nothing is recorded on the SD card. -> Hi-Res is not working (DNG or MLV).

Using "simple" resolution works (using the intervalometer and half-S two times after an AF ack) works in both picture format.

Still testing.

Cheers
Pierre
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 03, 2015, 07:29:59 AM
did you check in Canon menu what the message prints? You need to set picture quality to RAW (+JPEG optionally)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: pierre2fun on June 03, 2015, 07:41:32 AM
Nikfreak,

You are right: it works fine now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Falcao_bh on June 03, 2015, 01:10:35 PM
Hello, installed 70d B and work fine. Can anyone help me to send CLEAN HDMI signal to atomos ninja blade? I can view the screen whith no info! But hdmi is no fulscreen. Help me!
Thanks from BRASIL!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ericdesign on June 03, 2015, 06:16:31 PM
hi why my 70D ML video tab wihout the bit rate and raw video??
please help and thanks very much.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Conaxe on June 03, 2015, 06:50:20 PM
@ericdesign you'll have to load the raw module. Bit rate is still disabled at this stage.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Mallowsm on June 03, 2015, 11:27:59 PM
Quote from: Falcao_bh on June 03, 2015, 01:10:35 PM
Hello, installed 70d B and work fine. Can anyone help me to send CLEAN HDMI signal to atomos ninja blade? I can view the screen whith no info! But hdmi is no fulscreen. Help me!
Thanks from BRASIL!


I would also love to get clean uncompressed to an atomos
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 04, 2015, 02:30:11 AM
Well to get clean outs, one needs to erase the 0. The 7D has clean outs, the 70D crops the HDMI signal.
The 70D clean outs can be obtained using USB & EOS software on a desktop.
There is this hybrid solution involving DSLR controller app, android device, wireless network,  & chromecast. 
The hybrid solution is really just using USB & android apps.
There are other h/w threads to discuss this.

PS: 7DM2 or 5DM3 provides clean outputs for FHD, check out the atomos compatibility.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: rorysb on June 04, 2015, 04:08:00 AM
Hi all, Thank you so much Magic Lantern team for doing this. I have a question:

Is there ANY way Magic Lantern could make it so that wireless is NOT disabled while shooting video? That would be immensely helpful in that it would allow us to use tablets as beautiful WIRELESS 1920x1080 video monitors via DSLR controller.   

As it stands you need to plug in via usb and when using devices like gimbals that is a problem and throws off the balance.

Thanks for any replies.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ericdesign on June 04, 2015, 06:13:41 AM
@Conaxe thanks very much
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Mallowsm on June 04, 2015, 11:37:42 AM
Quote from: ShootMeAlready on June 04, 2015, 02:30:11 AM
Well to get clean outs, one needs to erase the 0. The 7D has clean outs, the 70D crops the HDMI signal.
The 70D clean outs can be obtained using USB & EOS software on a desktop.
There is this hybrid solution involving DSLR controller app, android device, wireless network,  & chromecast. 
The hybrid solution is really just using USB & android apps.
There are other h/w threads to discuss this.

How do you mean erase the 0. How can the eos desktop app help me get clean uncompressed to the atomos ninja via a hdmi cable?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dmilligan on June 04, 2015, 12:48:13 PM
Quote from: Mallowsm on June 04, 2015, 11:37:42 AM
How do you mean erase the 0.
70D => 70D => 7D

in other words buy a different camera

Quote from: Mallowsm on June 04, 2015, 11:37:42 AM
How can the eos desktop app help me get clean uncompressed to the atomos ninja via a hdmi cable?
It can't. But you can record the USB video feed with an app (that's what he's suggesting). IDK what the quality or framerate of that will will be (probably not as good).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: SPalarius on June 04, 2015, 03:50:39 PM
Good day to all .tell me this method is suitable for firmware 70 d - version (A)
for all grateful.
http://rghost.ru/39586677
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 04, 2015, 03:59:14 PM
no, not suitable. official ML is only available in english language
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: SPalarius on June 04, 2015, 06:56:29 PM
а может где есть такое что б закинул в прошивку и она сменила язык ???
или так тут нельзя.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 04, 2015, 07:01:55 PM
             @Bredy & @Devomk

       A Response would be Nice ~ & Perhaps even Helpful to some of the rest of us ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: SPalarius on June 05, 2015, 04:38:23 AM
And now that the firmware for 70 d are not functions of HDR photography , I found with the change of braking but it's totally different and there 0 - ++ -++ what it is and how to use it , can anyone suggest .
for earlier thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: camslide on June 05, 2015, 09:08:10 AM
Quote from: SPalarius on June 05, 2015, 04:38:23 AM
And now that the firmware for 70 d are not functions of HDR photography , I found with the change of braking but it's totally different and there 0 - ++ -++ what it is and how to use it , can anyone suggest .
for earlier thanks.
As you can read in the menu the 0 - + -- ++ represents normal, dark, bright, even darker, even brighter exposed picture.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Fatherjack57 on June 05, 2015, 01:57:47 PM
Installed ML Alpha 6 the other day.  I noticed that the internal temperature isn't being shown as it was with Alpha 5b, although this isn't a big issue but the other problem I have found, is the exposure simulation won't turn off in the movie mode, although it turns off in photo mode OK.  Is there something I need to do?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: TechnoPilot on June 05, 2015, 04:37:34 PM
Quote from: Fatherjack57 on June 05, 2015, 01:57:47 PM
Installed ML Alpha 6 the other day.  I noticed that the internal temperature isn't being shown as it was with Alpha 5b, although this isn't a big issue but the other problem I have found, is the exposure simulation won't turn off in the movie mode, although it turns off in photo mode OK.  Is there something I need to do?
@Fatherjacks57 - Internal temperature display was disabled in code since 5b, and will be until nitfreak can sort out the temperature discrepancy that existed.

Exposure simulation on the other hand sounds like a bug.  I'll crosscheck this on my camera...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 05, 2015, 05:20:02 PM
I saw the Exposure Sim. bug.  shooting video, tried raw with all else disabled except could not kill Expo. Sim.

F-Up question:  Is Dual ISO in video working?
I recall getting lots of horiz. lines  in the past did not see any (picture did has some variation in tones)?  I tried 400/1600  in MLVRAW and was able to get a decent pic (I was shooting 2K resolutions 24fps, @2.39,1/160s using f1.8 glass). However I did not check against 400 ISO (single iso) which has clean shadows & no hot pixels, but it certainly was not noisy in shadows like ISO 1600 (single iso).

I used the Mystic Dual ISO DNG converter and CC in AE. No hot pixels or noisy shadows, could it be that there is a way to use ISO1600 in 70D raw video?

It looks like Dual ISO video is not working either crop/no-crop mode.  I tried Mystic, convert MLV, and then convert Dual ISO.  Yuck! result. 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Canniballissimo on June 06, 2015, 11:22:07 AM
Please tell me, in this version of the ML is not the function Rack Focus? Or shooting stacks done differently? The firmware for the 1100d have a similar function.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: rvdeej on June 06, 2015, 04:01:24 PM
Hi folks,

Maybe a quick explanation is possible in how far this release adds "shoot" functions  for pictures. I was used to using the Magic zoom and then some options on the 700D. I'm taken a little by surprise the ML for 70D is in alpha version...

Does it have the options in the picture mode or are they still in development?
I'm not doing videos at all with my 70D... Mainly pictures...

Appreciate a little feedback about the picture enhancements available and stable...

(I already installed it and am playing with it...)

Regards
Tv
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Trent10 on June 07, 2015, 12:38:08 AM
I am trying to use my 70D to broadcast videos longer than 30min. HDMI out is connected to a blackmagic studio mini, which is then connected to my laptop running Wirecast. I was hoping I could use Magic Lantern to prevent the video monitoring output from shutting off after 30 min. I am not recording anything to the camera - just using it as a video feed.

I see you can have the camera automatically start recording video (after a short break) after it shuts off, but it doesn't seem like this function can turn back on the video output without starting the recording. I don't think it even turns on the viewfinder/video-out automatically anyway - just restarts recording.

Any help would be appreciated. I can't seem to find others trying to solve this problem.   
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: tait on June 07, 2015, 04:34:02 PM
Hello, it is the first time I install ML, on my 70D, I have the B revision. I found Expo. Presets is working when selecting the Press INFO option but not working on Press SET option.
I tried a few functions, they looked good. I had to turn the camera off to charge as battery is 6% remaining, however when I booted the camera again after charging, some errors appeared. remembered that the last operation was I enabled several modules. Below errors can be seen when viewing the picture.

Scanning modiles...
Load module...
load: AUTOEXPO.MO
load: DOT_TUNE.MO
load: DUAL_ISO.MO
load: ETTR.MO
load: MLV_SND.MO
load: SILENT.MO
LINKING...
tcc: error: undefined symbol 'mlv_rec_get_free_slot'
tcc: error: undefined symbol 'mlv_rec_queue_block'
tcc: error: undefined symbol 'mlv_rec_release_slot'
tcc: error: undefined symbol 'mlv_rec_get_slot_info'
tcc: error: undefined symbol 'mlv_rec_set_rel_timestamp'
  [E] failed to link modules
Save configs...
Save configs...

I am still able to take picture, not sure if it is a known error.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 07, 2015, 04:53:27 PM
Sure, MLV_SND.mo relies on MLV_REC.mo which is missing on your list.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: tait on June 07, 2015, 05:08:14 PM
Thank you very much, Walter. No more error with MLV_REC.mo turning on. I will read user guide and continue the testing.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 07, 2015, 06:14:47 PM
Trent10, if you just want HDMI output, why not put in manual, then remove all overlays (canon + ML)
and just let it output clean display to your external recorder. 
It will stay on until battery dies.  If you buy a power adapter then until you run out of recording space.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Trent10 on June 08, 2015, 01:09:53 AM
Quote from: ShootMeAlready on June 07, 2015, 06:14:47 PM
Trent10, if you just want HDMI output, why not put in manual, then remove all overlays (canon + ML)
and just let it output clean display to your external recorder. 
It will stay on until battery dies.  If you buy a power adapter then until you run out of recording space.

That is exactly what I am trying to do. I tried it again after reading your comment but the video output turns off automatically after 30 minutes even when I'm not recording. I've tried in camera mode and video mode - both in manual. I have disabled auto-power-off in the canon settings. It always turns off at 30.

Are there other settings I might be missing? Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Mallowsm on June 08, 2015, 02:02:38 PM
Quote from: Trent10 on June 08, 2015, 01:09:53 AM
That is exactly what I am trying to do. I tried it again after reading your comment but the video output turns off automatically after 30 minutes even when I'm not recording. I've tried in camera mode and video mode - both in manual. I have disabled auto-power-off in the canon settings. It always turns off at 30.

Are there other settings I might be missing? Thanks for your help!

Your still not getting full uncompressed via the hdmi even if you do turn the overlays off? Ive got an atomos and would love to have full use of the hdmi out
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dmilligan on June 08, 2015, 04:04:37 PM
Quote from: Trent10 on June 08, 2015, 01:09:53 AM
It always turns off at 30.
Recording raw video for longer than 30 mins was achieved by changing PROP_ICU_AUTO_POWEROFF. Theoretically this should also work for what you're trying to do.

    const int powersave_prohibit = 2;
    prop_request_change(PROP_ICU_AUTO_POWEROFF, &powersave_prohibit, 4);
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 08, 2015, 05:08:54 PM
              @WhomEver

       Why is the InstantRestart @ 30Min's not working ~ Even just for H264 ~ Don't need RawVid ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dmilligan on June 08, 2015, 05:46:51 PM
It's very time consuming to develop features that take 30mins to do a single test run. Considering this is a free time hobby project, most developers likely don't have that amount of time, patience, or care to work on something they are just doing for fun.

OT: it is very difficult to read and understand your posts. a1ex already expressed his frustration, and I would like to express mine as well. Please use plain English. Grammar was invented for a reason, and while native speakers may understand what you are saying, this is an international community, with many non-native speakers whom I'm sure find it next to impossible to understand you (esp. if they rely in small or large part on computer translation)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 09, 2015, 12:07:11 AM
             @DMilligan

       "Off topic" ~ I suppose I am to assume that you were pointing that @ me, (nice to know I'm not invisible, as I was starting to wonder if that might be the case).

        "Back on topic" ~ As for the (30Min' Shutdown & Movie Restart / Auto-restart movie recording), You made it sound as if it is fairly simple to do (for someone who

knows "Where & How" to make an alteration to what appears to be some "Code"), so I was just curious as to why, if it is that simple, it has not yet been implemented.

           Just so ya know ~ I am ever so deeply appreciative of NikFreaks apparent knowledge & patience & all the fine work he has done for those of us who are wanting

to get the full potential out of our 70Ds.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dmilligan on June 09, 2015, 02:46:40 AM
The "code" I provided (and it is actually real code and not just "code") is simply to prevent auto power off after 30 mins (which is the problem for raw video and external recording), not for recording h.264 or auto restart (which is more complicated, and extremely time consuming to test).

Even though the "code" is simple, it was not quick or easy to come by. This is a reverse engineering project. Sometimes it takes years of research (or even just random dumb luck) to figure out how to do something even if the result is a single line of code. And sometimes those findings are not portable to other cameras, and sometimes users clamoring for a build don't actually bother to do proper and useful testing and feedback that is actually helpful to developers. Instead they simply ask: "how do I get feature X to work?" or "when are you going to have feature X working?" or "I'm not a coder, but I figure X should be easy, why don't you have it working yet?"

And, it has been implemented, raw video does use that snippet of code (I copied that from raw_rec as a matter of fact). It's just not implemented for external recording (...yet. If someone wanted to, it would be fairly easy, even potentially possible to do from a lua script).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: MysteriousLight on June 09, 2015, 10:31:15 AM
I totally agree with the difficulty of developing and reverse engineering. Its very time consuming and can also be scary at times. Having some web development background, I know it can be a little intimidating to think that testing a particular code may just conpletely mess up all your work. In web developing you can back things up, but since you are actually risking an expensive camera you can potentially lose something permanently when testing ML code.

That being said, I would certainly be interested in knowing a time frame by which the project is expected to reach beta. 1-2 months 6-months to a year?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 09, 2015, 11:01:40 AM
It's ready when it's ready.
There are no timeframes within ML project.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: mocenigo on June 09, 2015, 12:02:04 PM
BUG REPORT: Since I installed ML ("B" branch) on my 70D I noticed that sometimes image panning and magnification via touch and pinch respectively stops working. It is difficult to reproduce reliably. I shoot a pic, I zoom in, sometimes panning via touch works, sometimes it does not. It exhibits the same behavior even if "quick zoom" under "image review settings" is turned off (but it does not seem to occur if I then restart the camera).

I would like to know if others experienced the same.

Roberto
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 09, 2015, 05:19:14 PM
Walter your response kind of reminds of an
Abbott and Costello Routine.

When its ready?
Its ready when its ready
Great, but when Its ready?
When its ready.
When is that?
When its ready.
Look its not up to me, when Its ready?
You think It'll let us know?
Oh yes when its ready, you'll know.
You'll know when Its ready?
Yes, you'll know.
How can I know, when I dont even know what I am talking about!
... third base.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Trent10 on June 09, 2015, 06:58:42 PM
@dmilligan

I do not know how to write or implement code. Is the code snippet you posted to disable the auto-off function something I can cut and paste somewhere for the desired effect or would it require more code to get it to do what I'm trying to do? You mentioned it being something that could be accomplished fairly easily in Lua. I don't know what Lua is.

I don't expect someone to take this on, but if it is something I can get to work myself without destroying my camera I would like to give it a try.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: MysteriousLight on June 10, 2015, 12:37:57 AM
QuoteIt's ready when it's ready.
There are no timeframes within ML project.
I was hoping for a more reliable answer, but I guess that would be too easy... so I guess I'll have to do my own estimation.

Canon 5d Mark III started alpha around September 2012, never reached beta until early 2015.

Canon 6d is started alpha december 2012, currently in limbo http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3904.0

Canon 7d (not mark II) started alpha december 2012, still in alpha...

So drawing from that info since 70d alpha started January, 2015 this will most likely take much MUCH longer to reach beta and highly likely it won't reach stable release within a reasonable time frame.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dmilligan on June 10, 2015, 03:45:17 AM
"alpha", "beta", "stable" are just words. Unlike a software business that might have strict definition of these terms (that involve various levels of QA, unit testing, acceptance testing, user testing, and so on), these words don't have any real meaning in our context (because we haven't strictly defined them). You can't even really compare these labels on different ML ports, b/c these ports had different developers and these labels are simply whatever the particular dev though they ought to be (and again this is because we have no definition of these terms for ML).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: stig3824 on June 10, 2015, 03:52:40 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on May 04, 2015, 11:17:32 PM
Anyone else having same experience or may verify above? I would just like to have it verified. In this case someone else with an older camera raw version would need to update to the latest version and share his/her experience with the end result. Actually I am a little bit confused with user experience. Some have no problems others do have 'em. Add to that different user scenarios like LR plugin or different cr2hdr versions (win/mac)- either downloaded from 1st post or provided by other tools. No offense to anyone.I just want to find the root cause of the reported dualiso issues because I have no clue atm what is causing them.
I have the same problem, but have managed to work around the problem by opening the dng in Photoshop (loads file without overexposure) then exporting as a tiff which I open in Lightroom 6.  For some reason Lightroom 6 doesn't load the dng's correctly but Photoshop does.

I have tested some other dual iso files members have on this post by converting the dual iso cr2 to dng.  I get the same results with those from the 70D, but the dng from the 6D works fine straight into Lightroom 6.

I have now tested with Lightroom 5 and the problem goes away.  There seem's to be only an issue with dng's from the 70D and Lightroom 6.

I have also posted this issue on the Lightroom forum https://forums.adobe.com/message/7628706#7628706
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: markpa on June 10, 2015, 07:14:23 PM
Two questions. I've been shooting using dual ISO and just recently switch to the new alpha release, now after converting the files to dng, all images have blocks/lines in them still. Ive noticed the converter was taken down from the first post , is there a reason for this? And should I be using another one with the new alpha release?


Second question .
I do lots of long exposure photography, when converting files from dual ISO is it normal to have lots of hot pixels?  Sometimes up near 200 or more on several
Occasions.

Any help here greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Fatherjack57 on June 11, 2015, 12:20:09 PM
I don't know if this has already been experienced, but I was trying some RAW video recording yesterday and when trying to check the footage, the camera didn't recognise the files.  In fact it said there was nothing there, however, when the sd card was put into the PC they showed up as being there.  I'm hoping the camera hasn't thrown a 'wobbly' but I haven't had a chance to check it out yet.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 11, 2015, 12:41:47 PM
Do you have MLV_PLAY.mo and FILE_MAN.mo loaded?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 11, 2015, 02:33:55 PM
Markpa love to hear a few more details on your long exposure time lengths & ISO used.
I was expecting to hear this, as I have been testing the raw video at high ISO, and spent a lot of time verifying hot pixels.
Long exposure should have the same sensor saturation response as video, because they basically have the sensor on for a considerable length of time.

You can review a few back posts of mine, but the long & the short of it. 
ISO 800 was the max usable, but still produced hot pixles less than 10 after 1 minute.
ISO 400 and bellow was quite usable, 1 - 2 hot pixels after longer times.
I am hopeful that dual ISO, will enable higher ISO use but that's only working for still photo's.  DeafeyeJ has produced some dual iso still shots, but I am interested to see with longer exposures the hot pixel/shadow noise profile.  This will pretty much predict how it will go for dual iso video (unless a really fast shutter reduces the saturation??? ... need to look at that).

Close related finding to hot pixels, is noisy shadows in low light.  They look like random hot pixels, and this again
followed the same ISO findings as above.  I would err on the side of caution and use ISO400 as a working max for video / long exposures.
 
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 11, 2015, 07:59:29 PM
*small feedback*

Decided to test out 70D w 50 1.4 AI.

Shot in MLV 1/48th 1824x1026p 23.984fps (no override) @ f1.4 & ISO 200-400 (w ND.9 filter):

https://vimeo.com/130413271

Workflow:
MLVFS > AE (Cinelog-C) > FCPX (Final Grade applied w [CFL] Kodak Vision Premier 2393 Grade 05) & export in 1920x1080p

Notice the strange effect approximately @ 22 seconds?

I checked the MLV file in MLRV to confirm and it is a messed up MLV (no big deal to me but thought it was worth noting?).

However, soon after that a few more MLV files started having a random line flick briefly (forget what they were called) but here are the screenshots:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/535/18686567776_eddacf2d75_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/utgxz3) (https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/357/18526656779_0a98b13753_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ue8XAT)

and yes this was all done with latest Alpha_6 build (May 31st) -- has anyone else experience similar somewhat of an issue even though it's random?

More in depth overall feedbacks coming soon for 70D.111B...

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Fatherjack57 on June 11, 2015, 09:30:07 PM
Hi Walter, thanks for the question.  As far as I know MLV_PLAY.mo and FILE_MAN.mo was loaded as it had been playing back RAW files (albeit, slowly) prior to this sudden refusal to recognise them.  However, I have found Alpha 6 a bit unstable in comparison to Alpha 5b and so I have uninstalled ML for the moment in order to check out the camera.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 11, 2015, 09:35:21 PM
@DeafEyeJeydi: I guess it could be related to introducing EDMAC_RAW_SLURP on 70D we could try another free channel and hope that it solves your problems. But I don't see me disabling EDMAC_RAW_SLURP again in the next days (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15233.msg148195#msg148195)(read text and check before / after pics). Actually 70D causes some other headaches (referring to listing3 [focus.c / lens.c] (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg147935#msg147935) and I am trying to find out what's wrong there first.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 11, 2015, 10:02:53 PM
Perhaps I should do another test with Canon 50mm lens to see if that so called bug would go away and hopefully it's due to using a Nikon lens w adapter?

Or do you know for sure that this is more related to Alpha6 instead?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 11, 2015, 10:20:25 PM
My feeling says for raw recording (not stills) return back to 5b until I announce a new build.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: X-STATE on June 12, 2015, 11:34:26 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on June 11, 2015, 10:20:25 PM
My feeling says for raw recording (not stills) return back to 5b until I announce a new build.
Your feelings says this should be done for the two versions? A and B?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bigorna on June 12, 2015, 12:41:49 PM
@X-STATE
There is 5b for A and B versions...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: TechnoPilot on June 12, 2015, 09:32:58 PM
Quote from: mocenigo on June 09, 2015, 12:02:04 PM
BUG REPORT: Since I installed ML ("B" branch) on my 70D I noticed that sometimes image panning and magnification via touch and pinch respectively stops working. It is difficult to reproduce reliably. I shoot a pic, I zoom in, sometimes panning via touch works, sometimes it does not. It exhibits the same behavior even if "quick zoom" under "image review settings" is turned off (but it does not seem to occur if I then restart the camera).

I would like to know if others experienced the same.

Roberto
I would like to second this bug, I am having the same behavior on my 70D rev B running release alpha6.  Pinch zoom & touch panning does not work for me anytime I've tried to use it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Mr.Click on June 13, 2015, 03:27:43 PM
this Issue just happens after erasing a Picture.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: goldeneye243 on June 13, 2015, 03:29:46 PM
I am sure I have just not looked hard enough, but can I access dot-tune with the current build?

EDIT - Found it had to enable the module!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: flou on June 13, 2015, 03:44:32 PM
in Alpha6 how can se the Temperature of my 70D?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 13, 2015, 03:50:28 PM
You cannot. It was removed because there is some kind of confusion about the sensor's behauviour.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: TechnoPilot on June 13, 2015, 10:06:56 PM
Quote from: flou on June 13, 2015, 03:44:32 PM
in Alpha6 how can se the Temperature of my 70D?
You can still access the raw sensor values however from the Magic Lantern menu, though this is the raw value and not a true unit.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 15, 2015, 04:31:05 AM
I noticed the longer I ran Alpha 6, the more hot pixels I was seeing?  Probably needed to reset it all but agreed with Nik, so left it.

I switched back to May 10th, Alpha 5.B and this is my general observation.
Max. res 1824 ISO even 3200 did not produce hot pixels (OK 1 or 2) or shadow noise. Sure it was very grainy.
However in 3X crop mode, any ISO above 400, generated hot pixels and shadow noise.  Did not matter how fast the shutter was or low the f-stop.
The 3X crop signal is noisier and the higher ISO just amplifies the noise.  My guess is the dead/hot pixel remap is not applied during 3X crop mode.

Until variable fps is working, the higher res. settings are hard  to use, as frame skipping does not produce consistent timed skips. 
With variable frame rate one could set the fps low enough until its continuous, with a fast shutter and frame interpolation in post,
one could recover to 24fps.

Presently your best bet is to up res. from 1824 if you want a higher res. clip.     
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 16, 2015, 09:26:31 AM
*fun stuff*

Shot MLV with 70D.111B (Alpha5b) in 1280 x 720, 23.971fps with EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM @ ISO 200 (fireplace scene's @ ISO 800) and workflow as it follows:

cr2hdr-r_2.3 > AE (Smart Import 2 + Cinelog-C) > FCPX (colorgrade)

Pre_Cinelog-C:
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5347/18665410168_caf14ec703_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/urp79G) (https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3687/18855878881_815e8e5a25_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uJeiS2)

Post_Cinelog-C (ungraded):
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5473/18666983609_07a17c5e95_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/urxaSZ) (https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5590/18826900006_b54b2bb032_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uFEMsf)

Post_Cinelog-C (graded in FCPX):
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5468/18665408058_3ce031741e_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/urp6wj) (https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3885/18665454780_d430a62af9_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/urpkpS)
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3825/18665408558_7f202900ef_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/urp6EW) (https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5505/18665454360_b3c7e605c1_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/urpkhC)
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3887/18826898926_1de9418079_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uFEM8C)

Koji Sony SLog3Sgamut3Cine to SLog2709 2383 @76.79% + @Danne's Dan_log_01_warm_+15 @ 100% along with 03_cr2hdr-r_dan_log_bluey_contrast @ 16.07%:
https://vimeo.com/130843633

Kodak Vision Premiem 2393 Grade 03:
https://vimeo.com/130843632

*Update*
Koji Arri LogC to Rec709 2383:
https://vimeo.com/130960511
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Danne on June 16, 2015, 11:39:24 AM
Nice. Did you add a warm lut in the dannes customized luts movie?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 16, 2015, 02:28:10 PM
Shot some variable rate frames.
Canon 1280p 60fps, in ML set  2048 @2.39, dialed fps to 30 fps, 3X crop, the number of frames was fine for 30 fps.
So I continued and dialed to 12 fps, but notice via number of frames the lowest it could shoot was 20 fps.
I tried 6 fps, but again the lowest via number of frames was 20 fps. 

So the bug is the min. fps, is 20, as it wont go slower.

Ideally we want  to hit 12fps, as that's the min. acceptable for frame interpolation if you want to recover to 24 fps.
I suspect one could recover to 2K video @ 24fps, with a 12fps we should get 2K continuous.  Presently at 20 fps, its 13 sec. before frame skips.
 
 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 16, 2015, 03:40:49 PM
@ShootMeAlready: Not possible at the moment. It's either min. 16,666 or min. ~20fps due to the "fps override bug". We aren't able to set timer B. 70D differs from all other cams and I have no solution atm other than setting fps_timer_b_max = fps_timer_b_org (hint: old CONFIG FPS_TIMER_A_ONLY).

If you need lower FPS just use HiJelloFastTV mode. That should work as it only uses FPS timer A
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 16, 2015, 06:38:58 PM
Quote from: Danne on June 16, 2015, 11:39:24 AM
Nice. Did you add a warm lut in the dannes customized luts movie?
Yes, Dan_log_01_warm_+15 @ 100% along with 03_cr2hdr-r_dan_log_bluey_contrast @ 16.07%
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: sweetshoot15 on June 16, 2015, 09:31:50 PM
@DeafEye  how do you like that 10-18mm on the 70D?  I was thinking of picking one up, although all my other lenses are f/2.8
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 16, 2015, 09:40:37 PM
Quote from: sweetshoot15 on June 16, 2015, 09:31:50 PM
@DeafEye  how do you like that 10-18mm on the 70D?  I was thinking of picking one up, although all my other lenses are f/2.8

TBH, I think it's an OKAY lens (the only reason why I use it is for Gimbal purpose because its STM works well for AF on 70D) and it's extremely LIGHT but I learn that its best to close it down to 5.6 so when zooming in/out it doesnt change the exposure otherwise you will see what you saw in my clip above going from f4.5 to 5.6 during the zoom in... a major turn off for me!

Which 2.8 do you own?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: sweetshoot15 on June 16, 2015, 09:47:58 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on June 16, 2015, 09:40:37 PM
TBH, I think it's an OKAY lens (the only reason why I use it is for Gimbal purpose because its STM works well for AF on 70D) and it's extremely LIGHT but I learn that its best to close it down to 5.6 so when zooming in/out it doesnt change the exposure otherwise you will see what you saw in my clip above going from f4.5 to 5.6 during the zoom in... a major turn off for me!

Which 2.8 do you own?

Thanks for the info!  Looking for a reasonably priced wide angle lens.   I currently have a Tamron SP 17-50mm f/2.8 VC  and a Tamron SP 70-200mm f/2.8 DI VC USD.  The 17-50 hunts a bit in low light as compared to the 70-200.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: X-STATE on June 18, 2015, 10:33:30 AM
Hi!
Aliasing and moiré make me cry :'( :'( :'(
Shot RAW with 70D.111A (Alpha5b) in 1824 x 776, 25fps ISO 100
Lens: Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 DC HSM
Graded in Adobe After Effects
Edited in Adobe Premiere pro
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Jaquen on June 18, 2015, 09:51:05 PM
The installation of alpha6 on my 70d was pretty smooth. But when i'm reading thru the ML menu it switches back to live view sometimes after a second sometimes after 4 seconds. The magic zoom flickers continuously. Zebra stripes only show in Rec mode not live view (not sure if thats normal). I had one crash today and it wouldnt power off i had to take out the battery. How do i submit the log? How can i get previous verions of more stable ML? Also later that day in rec mode the screen had a magenta over cast and flickered terribly. the last picture also was showing on the live view screen but somewhat transparent somehow.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: pulec7 on June 18, 2015, 10:04:05 PM
Hello, Now I have a week to play with ML 600D and now I dared to install ML on my other body 70D. Most of the stuff is ok but I can not find bitrate settings to 600D I had set 1.5x my body did not manage to 70D, I read that you can 3x on fast card.

Can you tell me where I can find this setting, I climbed almost everything and found nothing. I have the version 1.1.1 Alpha 6
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: rOOmUSh on June 18, 2015, 11:06:21 PM
Hello all.

I wonder if anyone else have the problem with loading the FULL RES SILENT DNGs into Lightroom 6. It shows that the format is unsupported. LR 5 is fine. Same problem in Photoshop CC ACR 9. I guess it's the same engine. No problem with ACR 8.7.1

Thank you!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: morningfox on June 20, 2015, 04:44:46 AM
Sorry but I'm a total noob with ML.  I installed the b version of the Alpha program and even with Global Drawing OFF I get 2 horizontal parallel bars left after the Focus box clears.  I am looking for a way to get a clean display for a live feed.  Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: lojzik on June 21, 2015, 10:39:40 AM
If i use
mlv_rec -> mlrawviewer 1.3.3 -> dng -> lightroom 6 -> import -> error (preview unavailable)
raw_rec -> mlrawviewer 1.3.3 -> dng -> lightroom 6 -> import -> OK
is it bug or feature?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Frarike on June 21, 2015, 01:03:55 PM
Quote from: lojzik on June 21, 2015, 10:39:40 AM
If i use
mlv_rec -> mlrawviewer 1.3.3 -> dng -> lightroom 6 -> import -> error (preview unavailable)
raw_rec -> mlrawviewer 1.3.3 -> dng -> lightroom 6 -> import -> OK
is it bug or feature?

Pretty sure light room doesn't support sound files so thats why mlv won't work.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: lojzik on June 21, 2015, 02:44:59 PM
mlrawviewer 1.3.3 generates wav + many dng files. Problem is with import dng file into lightroom. But DNG profile editor (from adobe too) opens this file.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dmilligan on June 21, 2015, 05:35:49 PM
MLV format has a lot of metadata that plain RAW does not. This metadata is also added to DNGs produced from the MLV file. The extra metadata appears to be causing problems for Lr.

You can try other converters including mlv_dump or MLVFS. If the problem persists please upload a MLV file and/or DNGs produced from the various converters.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: snakec on June 21, 2015, 07:07:17 PM
EXIF disappear when exporting with the plugin magic lantern.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: lojzik on June 22, 2015, 10:15:09 AM
Quote from: dmilligan on June 21, 2015, 05:35:49 PM
MLV format has a lot of metadata that plain RAW does not. This metadata is also added to DNGs produced from the MLV file. The extra metadata appears to be causing problems for Lr.

You can try other converters including mlv_dump or MLVFS. If the problem persists please upload a MLV file and/or DNGs produced from the various converters.
I try mlv_dump.
mlv_dump and mlvrawviewer generate different outputs. mlv_dump dng has thumbnail readable from lightroom. Both dngs have errors in metadata (exposure time)
generated dng: https://mega.nz/#!xURVgATD!HDu84i1AzCMmOdOzvfsPY0uFYS3d-qd-5vbBuo2kDQ4

edit: mlvfs (on win) generates problem in LR too
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: SuperDosh on June 22, 2015, 11:02:34 PM
Noob-ish questions - How do you know whether your camera is 70D 111a or 111b?

Thanks in advance,
- Joe
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 22, 2015, 11:04:41 PM
Installing the wrong version will tell you to use the other one.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: vitor duarte on June 23, 2015, 01:50:25 PM
I am Portuguese and my English is poor.
ML installed on my 70D but do not spend too much time on the screen and do not have access for example to peaking among many

what will happen ?
thank you
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: vitor duarte on June 23, 2015, 05:03:27 PM
is that the 700D does not give the 70D ? lol
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: SuperDosh on June 23, 2015, 07:58:17 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on June 22, 2015, 11:04:41 PM
Installing the wrong version will tell you to use the other one.

Thanks Walter!  :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: vitor duarte on June 23, 2015, 08:30:34 PM
It is that the peaking does not work
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 23, 2015, 08:44:23 PM
Add your request in portuguese, please.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: vitor duarte on June 23, 2015, 10:22:42 PM
Boa noite.
Instalei o ML na minha 70D mas o peaking não funciona, ou seja, fica inactivo e o ML ao fim de 5 segundos desaparece do ecrã.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: thebandrick on June 23, 2015, 10:32:44 PM
Hello guys , i have recently installed ML on my 70d , but i find that my footage looks really noisy , even in good lighting conditions , there is a lot of alisaing and there is a sort of lag between some frames. Does anyone encounter the same problem ? How can i rasolve this ?

I shoot 1792*762 at 24fps
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 24, 2015, 12:16:50 AM
@thebandrick:

for which Alpha Build are you referring this to?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: thebandrick on June 24, 2015, 02:01:57 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on June 24, 2015, 12:16:50 AM
@thebandrick:

for which Alpha Build are you referring this to?
Alpha 6 , and on alpha 5 it did was same thing ..
I also have the impression that my footage is a little sped up (i shoot in 24fps , i convert it with raw2mlv then when i import it in after effects it says 30fps ..)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 24, 2015, 02:44:57 PM
Bandrick.

Try this for lower noise
1. ISO 400 max. this is conservative max.
2. fast shutter 1/100  or faster
3. shoot flat (in camera stuff dialed off, sharpness off, contrast off, and desat -2)
4. Clean sensor/lens, use a hood in daylight.
5. Avoid digital zoom.
6. Ensure there is some light somewhere in the shot, shots of minimal light are nosier on aps-c.

Ofcourse you could shoot with the zoom 3X (or 5X in ML), but its nosier by design.
Its a bigger set of tricks to get best out of it.


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: snakec on June 24, 2015, 02:51:02 PM
Quote from: snakec on June 21, 2015, 07:07:17 PM
EXIF disappear when exporting with the plugin magic lantern.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: thebandrick on June 24, 2015, 02:59:23 PM
Thank you for the advices ! I try this right now and i tell you what :)
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 24, 2015, 07:14:06 PM
If it's exporting in 30 FPS from AE -- sounds like you forgot to set the project/timeline setting to 24 FPS to match the footage and/or check your export/render queue settings.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 25, 2015, 03:01:41 AM
Perhaps one who knows better than me can advise.
But why is ML Zoom 5X, when the actual is 3X.
The framing of what is displayed at 5X does not match the recording (3X).
I thought ML could control the display? 
Walter say it isnt so! There is some menu option I am missing, or that this can be fixed before the next time the planets align.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dmilligan on June 25, 2015, 03:14:00 AM
@lojzik

It appears that ACR simply refuses to load any DNGs that have camera model as "Canon 70D". This is quite strange. If you use exiftool or just a hex editor to change the camera model metadata from "Canon 70D" to say "Canon 60D" it loads just fine. This would be something to complain to Adobe about (for not adhering to their own DNG "standard").
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dmilligan on June 25, 2015, 03:40:16 AM
Quote from: ShootMeAlready on June 25, 2015, 03:01:41 AM
why is ML Zoom 5X, when the actual is 3X.
There are two main image buffers: the raw buffer which is raw data captured from the sensor, and the YUV buffer which is what is used for display to the LCD screen and HDMI, etc. There is obviously a lot of processing that is done between the raw buffer and the YUV buffer (this processing is controlled by Canon firmware). When you press the zoom button, the Canon firmware changes both the sensor scanning mode, which causes a 3X change in the raw buffer, and some of the YUV processing so that the end result of the YUV processing is a 5X change.

For a long time, we didn't know how to modify the YUV processing to make the images match, so the framing was just off in crop mode. We can "control the display", i.e. we can write to the YUV buffer and know how it works, but what we don't know how to do is control all the image processing hardware that is needed to process raw data into yuv in realtime (we can do it with the CPU, but it's way to slow). This hardware is all controlled by the Canon firmware.

@Greg discovered how to control this with some of the ADTG/ENGIO registers, but to date, no developers have had time (I guess) to implement this for correct framing in raw video crop mode. See: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10111.msg125590#msg125590
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dalifen on June 25, 2015, 09:25:12 AM
Sorry if it already was here, I didn't find it, but I can't load the sound module. It doesn't link it, announces error after boot.
Any recommendation?
Alpha70D111B
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 25, 2015, 09:29:19 AM
I suppose you mean MLV_SND.mo. This module will enable sound recording when MLV_REC.mo is used. So you have to load both.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 25, 2015, 09:58:26 AM
No sound support yet. On a side note: I will be away for about 2 weeks. From time to time I will read through forum but you won't see any updates from me in the next 2 weeks.

Once returned I will continue work.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dalifen on June 25, 2015, 01:18:32 PM
I see, thanks anyway, at least there are no error message whenever I load both MLV_SND.mo and MLV_REC.mo

Any idea for connecting earphones to 70D? Perhaps by using digital AV-out?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: lojzik on June 25, 2015, 01:49:05 PM
what exactly means "No sound support yet "? Because if I enable mlv_snd and mlv_raw, I get mlv with sound.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 25, 2015, 04:47:11 PM
it means: no support from me yet cause I never tried myself. Some people reported it as broken / crashing earlier.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dalifen on June 25, 2015, 06:25:28 PM
Yes that's true. I can enable the modules now, but with no practical functionality e.g. level meters, chanels dedication and so.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: FreyRS on June 25, 2015, 07:41:09 PM
Hallo there ,iam new and i tried ML with my 600D before. There was the Point " Audio remote shot" to trigger when a sound comes up or iam clapping my hands !

Am i stupid or isnt it available 4 the Canon 70D !?!? plz help
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: patrick.m.mckenna on June 27, 2015, 08:04:33 AM
Just got the 70D about two weeks after owning a 40 for the past five years and then the 10D which I bought back in 2003 or so.

Anyway, I am interested in ML mainly for the focus peaking and zebras; however, after successfully installing it and loading the modiules and turning on focus peaking in Display 2 and Display 3, and then setting it so it can run 4 display configuration.

I can't the overlays or the grid or anything that resembles the ML overlay in the user guide to appear on my viewfinder in Live Mode. Tried shooting stills in AV, TV and P mode and nada/nothing. I know some of ML's functionality is working because I adjusted the Kelvin in the WB to make the images warmer and cooler. But no joy with the overlays. I hit info multiple times and have toggle between live mode and viewfinder mode. Restarted and nothing.

Peak focusing is really what I am most interested in because I have a Lomograpjy Petzval 85mm f2,2 that is manual focus and it is a pain to get the focus tact sharp in the stills that I am taking. I also have a Canon 50mm 1.2 that is autofocus and when shot wide open, it is also a chore to get the eyes sharp.  I thought the peak focusing would be helpful for both lenses but I can't get the overlays to appear.

Must've watched 10 videos on ML and the overlays but I am stuck.

Any advice?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 27, 2015, 09:17:52 AM
Perhaps try pressing the info button on your 70D to change the On Screen Display info until ML's OSD shows up on your LCD...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: patrick.m.mckenna on June 27, 2015, 01:36:23 PM
Yes I have tried that a dozen of times When I press info consecutive, it will briefly display DISP 0, DISP 1, DISP 2, DISP 3 in top left corner of the screen and then disappear.  What remains is just a rectangular box.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 27, 2015, 05:23:17 PM
After turning on the modules the first time -- you turned off the camera and back on, right?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 27, 2015, 05:24:57 PM
? Modules for zebras and focus peak?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 27, 2015, 05:36:27 PM
I'm in bed and just waking up... My apologies for the typo and I'll leave this to you then.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 27, 2015, 05:38:29 PM
Nah, take your time and some coffee.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 27, 2015, 05:39:25 PM
@patrick.m.mckenn

Do you have GlobalDraw Turned On ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 27, 2015, 05:57:36 PM
Ha Thanks Walter but No coffee needed here. Good catch @OlRivrRat -- sounds like it could possibly be related to GlobalDraw's settings.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 27, 2015, 06:01:04 PM
Lack of Knowledge here ~ Where does one do these sorts of changes ?

"turning on focus peaking in Display 2 and Display 3, and then setting it so it can run 4 display configuration."

                &

       My 70Db does not do this

"When I press info consecutive, it will briefly display DISP 0, DISP 1, DISP 2, DISP 3 in top left corner of the screen" 

                     Should it?

Never mind, I found it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: rayankh on June 27, 2015, 08:06:51 PM
I have a question - When I go to the menu and go to the audio settings, I only see MLV Sound. Are there other audio settings somewhere? How do I get the meters to show up on LiveView?

https://youtu.be/yo8IoJi1ZvI?t=137  - this guy's menu looks a lot different than mine. Yes it's a different camera, but he has many different audio settings. What am I missing?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: patrick.m.mckenna on June 27, 2015, 08:13:18 PM
I installed all the modules except Arkanoid, which was great on the Mac back in the day but I doubt it's much fun playing on the camera.

I did turn the camera off and on after installing the modules. In fact, I turned the camera off multiple times since this is the first thing my company IT help desk tells me to do every time I call...even when I have forgotten my password. 

I do have Global Draw turned on, and I have also turned on focus peaking, zebras and histogram on all 4 display presets.

I have uninstalled it but I can reinstall it and take screenshots of the Global Draw page and the preset page if that would even help.

If it helps, I am using the Alpha6 A version. I just bought my camera 2 weeks ago in Dallas and the serial number starts with a 2 if that means anything to anybody.

Thanks for your patience and suggestions.

TX
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 27, 2015, 08:21:49 PM
I don't know what you mean by "installing modules". Did you mean setting all modules to ON?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 27, 2015, 08:48:24 PM
@ patrick.m.mckenna

Try turning the LV Display Presets on the Perfs page to Off & then report what you see when Toggling through the info screens.

You might also want to give Alpha5 a try as maybe it has something to do with this

" Changelog (noteworthy ones only):
         31st May.: Alpha6
                 Removed all  focus and also fps features (see comments on butbucket for details) "
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 27, 2015, 09:40:46 PM
I've been told to stay with Alpha 5b until further update by @nikfreak.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 27, 2015, 10:13:19 PM
A5b is the one that I am Most Comfortable with for now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on June 28, 2015, 01:59:10 AM

Quote from: OlRivrRat on June 27, 2015, 10:13:19 PM
A5b is the one that I am Most Comfortable with for now.

Same.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: patrick.m.mckenna on June 28, 2015, 03:49:29 AM
Walter. Yes. I turned the modules on.

Can anybody point me to the A5b download please? The only address I have for Magic Lantern for the 70D is the first post in this camera-specific forum. And the ML main page download link points to the forums.

Thanks

Patrick.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Davidl on June 28, 2015, 12:46:33 PM
Did someone have problems with the WLAN ? My smartphone will not connect with the 70D..
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: tuxfoto on June 30, 2015, 09:06:45 AM
Me too ....

PC over FritzBox is ok, Handy or Tab no connection.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: joanmsoriano on June 30, 2015, 04:09:45 PM
hi, i have a 70D (W), last month i installed magiclantern-Nightly.2015Apr23.70D111B to test RAW video, it work fine in 2 sd cards.
i didn´t use the camera until today, when i turn it on the led doesn´t turn on, but the camera is on, all the rear buttons doesn´t work, only the top buttons, like AF, DRIVE, ISO, etc, i can see the top screen, i can change the dial, but i can´t shot nether change to video mode.
i install the last version on another SD card magiclantern-Nightly.2015May31.70D111B and nothing happens, i format one ofthe cards, and nothing, i put by mistake in one card the magiclantern-Nightly.2015May31.70D111A and the led work with a message of ML saying that ml can´t find that version of camera, so the led works.


i´m using sandisk extreme pro class 10 95mbs

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 30, 2015, 04:52:29 PM
@JoanMSoriano

Have You tried Removing & Reinstalling the Battery
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: joanmsoriano on June 30, 2015, 05:02:58 PM
yes, i change the baterry, i try with 3 different batteries, i also notice that the sd card light turns on and keeps that way
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: RAMAKANT on June 30, 2015, 07:32:21 PM
Hello guys! Pls excuse me if I am too dumb or too impatient to read! Thanks to the precise instructions on the first page of this forum, installing this May 31 version of ML on my 70D was quick & easy - without any hassles. (Frankly, I have NOT gone through anywhere else in this forum. I am even ignorant whether ML interface is simply identical or different for each of the Canon camera model!) As mentioned here somewhere, all that I did till now is to turn on all modules in the 'modules' menu. Photo-snapping has been quick and easy too. But when I tried to shoot a sample video, it failed to record even though the memory card is quite fast (Lexar 600X). When I turned the camera switch to video mode and pressed the start button, I got indication that the camera is going through a preparation stage and then a green icon told me that the recording did continue. However, after switching off the video-recording & looking for the play-back, I noticed that the video has failed to exist on the memory card. What is that I am missing or doing wrong? Is there a specific location in this forum - where it is possible to read ML instructions step-by-step - as applicable to 70D alone? Thanks in advance! 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 30, 2015, 08:23:15 PM
RAMAK

I notice for higher resolutions like 1728 or higher, that when you record a movie, then hit stop. 
You need to wait until the screen returns to normal, I think its finishing the write from the buffer.
This can take 3s or so.  When the screen normalizes, the hit image review arrow, and your movie will be built frame by frame for the
first play back.  If you dont wait for the screen to normalize, I notice the movie may be lost ...

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 01, 2015, 03:14:24 AM
@JoanMSoriano

Remove the Lens & see if it makes any difference.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Surrealtime on July 01, 2015, 05:56:21 AM
@joanmsoriano you may have to reboot your camera. Look it up online.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 01, 2015, 06:22:06 AM
@JoanMSoriano

I recently was asked by a friend to have a look @ her 40D as it had ceased to start up & within a few minutes I discovered that 1 of the Pins

in the Card Slot appeared to be missing but upon closer inspection I found that it was bent over, Flat, @ 90º to where it was supposed to be.

With a great deal of care I was able to straighten it back up to its Original Stance & that 40D is again Alive & Well. So have a careful look down

into the SD Card Slot of your 70D & make sure that nothing looks Out Of Place. You won't see a bunch of pins like in the CF Card Slot on the

40D but there are some Very Fine Wires down in there could get bent by Who Knows What. It's still a Mystery as to how that 40Ds pin got bent.

       ML content ~~ I'll be surprised if this issue turns out to be ML Related.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: xsghost on July 01, 2015, 10:05:20 AM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on July 01, 2015, 06:22:06 AM
@JoanMSoriano
       ML content ~~ I'll be surprised if this issue turns out to be ML Related.

Oh! It's ML related alright..
Since installing the 31st of may build, I've had these 2 incidents happen to me:

1. While recording h264 video, i opened the ML menu to disable the extra sharpening of display feature. When I got out of the menu, the black bars above and bellow the video had become translucent (video was still recording). When I stopped recording, and then turned recording back on, the "Recording was stopped automatically" message was displayed and wouldn't go away. Turning the camera off from the switch did not turn the camera off. I had to quickly pull out the battery, and then restarted it (it was during a paid gig). It worked fine after that, but I took great care not to access the ML menu while recording any more.

2. I was recording and I had the "Card full" message pop up. So I turned the camera off, and changed the card to a fresh empty one (that had the same build of ML on it; yes, I'm sure it was the same build, I had installed the same build of ML on all my cards at the same time, like I always do when a new build comes out). Anywho, so I put the fresh card in, and turn on the camera, but the display remains black, buttons do nothing, only the card LED lights up. Start sweating, turn the camera back off and on again, same thing. Camera off, pull out the battery, put battery back in, camera on, same thing. My face started going through all the colors. After repeating the pulling out the battery thing for a few times, it had finally started up like nothing happened. I don't know why...
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 01, 2015, 08:28:27 PM
That's why this is called "Alpha" and also it has been recommended to go back to Alpha5b since Alpha6 is unfortunately still quite buggy according to @nikfreak.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 01, 2015, 09:55:47 PM
@xsghost

Consider Me "somewhat" surprised, as we still need to hear back from JoanMSoriano on the status of that issue. It does

seem quite similar to your 2nd incident though.

Might have been nice of you to report the incidents that you had when they happened so others might have benefitted

from the info.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: laci.szebeni on July 02, 2015, 07:00:58 AM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on July 01, 2015, 09:55:47 PM
@xsghost

Consider Me "somewhat" surprised, as we still need to hear back from JoanMSoriano on the status of that issue. It does

seem quite similar to your 2nd incident though.

Might have been nice of you to report the incidents that you had when they happened so others might have benefitted

from the info.
Well I see a lot of vague undocumented posts around here, and I didn't want to be that guy that just posts about a bug without being sure about what caused it exactly.
As long as I can't repeat that situation, I can't really call it a bug or claim I know what I'm talking about.
Having said that, I have had the camera refuse to turn on after switching cards more than once now, displaying just a black unresponsive screen. I can't tell for sure what sequence of steps must be taken to achieve it, or how to avoid it. I know for sure only that it happens both when changing cards while the camera is on, and if you turn the camera off before the change...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 02, 2015, 07:04:11 AM
Did you wait 3-5 seconds after opening door before taking the card out during swap?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: laci.szebeni on July 02, 2015, 07:09:58 AM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on July 02, 2015, 07:04:11 AM
Did you wait 3-5 seconds after opening door before taking the card out during swap?
I'm not one to count seconds, but I do always wait for the led activity to stop. That's my queue for knowing when to take out the card.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 02, 2015, 04:34:54 PM
@laci.szebeni

Would you please state which 70D Version & which ML Build you are using.

& maybe some info about your SDCards.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: laci.szebeni on July 02, 2015, 04:37:45 PM
70D version A (it's also in my signature as requested by nikfreak). ML build 31st of May (Nightly 2015 May 31 70D111A).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: iterronez on July 02, 2015, 05:23:19 PM
Hello Forum,

I have a longer post with findings on Alpha6, but I wanted to try Alpha5b first. Where can I download it? I looked and looked, believe me.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 02, 2015, 05:27:46 PM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15384.msg150410#msg150410
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: iterronez on July 02, 2015, 05:30:29 PM
@Walter Schulz: Thank you! (Sorry I couldn't find it.)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: EOS70D JP on July 03, 2015, 05:50:53 AM
Hello 70D Forum,

Thanks for Magic Lantern!!
Now we learning Magic Lantern and translating into Japanese.
So very hard...

So, we want to try "Alpha 5b" too.
Could anyone tell us where can we download it?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 03, 2015, 06:37:00 AM
@EOS70D JP:

Read two posts up above...

That link will take you there.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 03, 2015, 12:18:29 PM
Filedropper links not working.

Alpha 5 A (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4AUVWbhRrpybzF2MkF6bERjS3M/view?usp=sharing)
Alpha 5 B (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4AUVWbhRrpyWjYxWW9GM2NRLWs)

Please report if not working ...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: joanmsoriano on July 03, 2015, 05:59:53 PM
i try with and without lens, i try 2 sd cards, i change batteries ,
i´m using sandisk extreme pro class 10 95mbs, u try some kingstone sd cards without ml

my camera is  70D (W), i installed magiclantern-Nightly.2015Apr23.70D111B to test RAW video, it work fine in 2 sd cards.
i didn´t use the camera for some weeks, i turn it on and it happen, the led was black, the rear buttons doesn´t work, and the sd light turns on and keeps that way

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: laci.szebeni on July 03, 2015, 06:07:49 PM
I've been following this thread for a few months now and it's becoming quite clear that the build for the B version of the 70D is a lot funkier. It seems that 80% of the problems come from that camera.
Or maybe there are just more B owners..  Who knows?...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 03, 2015, 06:57:12 PM
@ joanmsoriano

What does the " (W) " after  70D mean?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: laci.szebeni on July 03, 2015, 06:58:50 PM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on July 03, 2015, 06:57:12 PM
@ joanmsoriano

What does the " (W) " after  70D mean?
I'm assuming he's referring to the WiFi version.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: joanmsoriano on July 03, 2015, 07:49:45 PM
my problem with all what happen and what i try

first of all, i use ML on my t2i for 3 years without a problem, so using it on my 70d was not my first time. i always wait until the SD card light turns off and i shut the camera off to take out or change the memory

I use the Nightly.2015Apr23.70D111B on my sandisk extreme pro class 10 95mbs (2 of them) and test it on my Canon 70D (W) (the wifi model)

I test the raw footage and other visual stuffs i use on my t2i, it work fine

i turn off the camera and didn´t use it for 3 weeks, i think that i have left the baterry on the camera this time

When i take the camera and turn it on, the led was black, and rear buttons didn´t work, the top panel was on and ok, and that buttons and settings work fine, the f on the rear panel was working with a digital lens. i also notice that the sd light was on and never turn off


i have done this so far:

- Change SD card
- Change batteries (i have 1 canon original and 3 non-original)
- left the camera without batteries 24hours
- install latest version of ML , magiclantern-Nightly.2015May31.70D111A, the led turn on with a ML text saying that it wasn´t the model for that ML, so i install magiclantern-Nightly.2015May31.70D111B, and it was back to black led without rear buttons working
- try a SD card without ML
- now i´m trying toi rebooy my camera, but i read that this model doesn´t have an internal battery that users can reach, so i´m trying with a tip for this that says that if i keep on without batteries the camera some minutes, and then some hours off without battery it might work. if it doesn´t, i will take it to service to reboot
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 03, 2015, 07:58:44 PM
"Internal battery removal" resolving troubles is a myth. It's clock battery.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: laci.szebeni on July 03, 2015, 07:59:30 PM


Quote from: joanmsoriano on July 03, 2015, 07:49:45 PM
my problem with all what happen and what i try

first of all, i use ML on my t2i for 3 years without a problem, so using it on my 70d was not my first time. i always wait until the SD card light turns off and i shut the camera off to take out or change the memory

I use the Nightly.2015Apr23.70D111B on my sandisk extreme pro class 10 95mbs (2 of them) and test it on my Canon 70D (W) (the wifi model)

I test the raw footage and other visual stuffs i use on my t2i, it work fine

i turn off the camera and didn´t use it for 3 weeks, i think that i have left the baterry on the camera this time

When i take the camera and turn it on, the led was black, and rear buttons didn´t work, the top panel was on and ok, and that buttons and settings work fine, the f on the rear panel was working with a digital lens. i also notice that the sd light was on and never turn off


i have done this so far:

- Change SD card
- Change batteries (i have 1 canon original and 3 non-original)
- left the camera without batteries 24hours
- install latest version of ML , magiclantern-Nightly.2015May31.70D111A, the led turn on with a ML text saying that it wasn´t the model for that ML, so i install magiclantern-Nightly.2015May31.70D111B, and it was back to black led without rear buttons working
- try a SD card without ML
- now i´m trying toi rebooy my camera, but i read that this model doesn´t have an internal battery that users can reach, so i´m trying with a tip for this that says that if i keep on without batteries the camera some minutes, and then some hours off without battery it might work. if it doesn´t, i will take it to service to reboot

I don't understand.. How did you try installing ML again? Can you access the Canon menu?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: a1ex on July 03, 2015, 08:03:57 PM
Got it, so bootloader is working, but something's wrong with the main firmware.

Can you send me a copy of ML/LOGS/ROM*.BIN from your card? (hopefully you still have a ML card with these files)

Then, when nikfreak returns, I'll ask him to prepare a ROM dumper from the recovery branch (it's easy, there are some stubs to find).

Since you have a second Canon camera, this test could be also helpful: http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13070
(you will need compiling skills, and it might not work out of the box, so it's best if nikfreak could help here as well)

I can help with the compiling part next week, but I'll need a tester (since we need to try the diagnostic tools on a good camera as well).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: laci.szebeni on July 03, 2015, 08:22:35 PM
Quote from: joanmsoriano on July 03, 2015, 07:49:45 PM
my problem with all what happen and what i try

first of all, i use ML on my t2i for 3 years without a problem, so using it on my 70d was not my first time. i always wait until the SD card light turns off and i shut the camera off to take out or change the memory

I use the Nightly.2015Apr23.70D111B on my sandisk extreme pro class 10 95mbs (2 of them) and test it on my Canon 70D (W) (the wifi model)

I test the raw footage and other visual stuffs i use on my t2i, it work fine

i turn off the camera and didn´t use it for 3 weeks, i think that i have left the baterry on the camera this time

When i take the camera and turn it on, the led was black, and rear buttons didn´t work, the top panel was on and ok, and that buttons and settings work fine, the f on the rear panel was working with a digital lens. i also notice that the sd light was on and never turn off


i have done this so far:

- Change SD card
- Change batteries (i have 1 canon original and 3 non-original)
- left the camera without batteries 24hours
- install latest version of ML , magiclantern-Nightly.2015May31.70D111A, the led turn on with a ML text saying that it wasn´t the model for that ML, so i install magiclantern-Nightly.2015May31.70D111B, and it was back to black led without rear buttons working
- try a SD card without ML
- now i´m trying toi rebooy my camera, but i read that this model doesn´t have an internal battery that users can reach, so i´m trying with a tip for this that says that if i keep on without batteries the camera some minutes, and then some hours off without battery it might work. if it doesn´t, i will take it to service to reboot
Also, did you by any chance use the SD card somewhere else before putting it back in the 70D when it stopped working?

I ask because it reminds me of this situation I had: I took by mistake the SD card from my T3i (with t3i ML on it) and inserted it in my 70D, and it froze up when I turned it on (black screen, non responsive). I think I had to take out the battery to power it down, but it then recovered when I inserted the correct SD card with the 70D ML on it.

So...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on July 03, 2015, 09:10:15 PM
Any folks been experimenting with raw video to minimize rolling shutter in terms of fps & resolution & shutter.
I did some 23.967 fps @ 1728 / 2.39 aspect @ 1/160s testing, around 30mm and
I am finding the rolling shutter very noticeable with hand held shots, rolling shutter is hard to shake (pun intended).

Any success stories out there worth a checkout.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: pierre2fun on July 03, 2015, 11:19:05 PM
Hello A1ex,

I can try helping. B version with Wifi.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: joanmsoriano on July 04, 2015, 02:50:40 AM
Quote from: laci.szebeni on July 03, 2015, 07:59:30 PM

I don't understand.. How did you try installing ML again? Can you access the Canon menu?

i copy the new files to the other sd card

Quote from: laci.szebeni on July 03, 2015, 08:22:35 PM
Also, did you by any chance use the SD card somewhere else before putting it back in the 70D when it stopped working?

I ask because it reminds me of this situation I had: I took by mistake the SD card from my T3i (with t3i ML on it) and inserted it in my 70D, and it froze up when I turned it on (black screen, non responsive). I think I had to take out the battery to power it down, but it then recovered when I inserted the correct SD card with the 70D ML on it.

So...

nope, i use that sd cards only with that camera


Quote from: a1ex on July 03, 2015, 08:03:57 PM
Got it, so bootloader is working, but something's wrong with the main firmware.

Can you send me a copy of ML/LOGS/ROM*.BIN from your card? (hopefully you still have a ML card with these files)

Then, when nikfreak returns, I'll ask him to prepare a ROM dumper from the recovery branch (it's easy, there are some stubs to find).

Since you have a second Canon camera, this test could be also helpful: http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13070
(you will need compiling skills, and it might not work out of the box, so it's best if nikfreak could help here as well)

I can help with the compiling part next week, but I'll need a tester (since we need to try the diagnostic tools on a good camera as well).

i can send you that roms, i have the ones in the SD card and i also have other 2 in my computer, i think a backup i made the day i download the first ML beta, at this point i can wait and help you diagnose or look at it if it was a ML bug, and then if we can´t recover take it to technical service for reboot or something

i can´t try with the other camera becasue i don´t have it anymore
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bump on July 04, 2015, 08:28:52 AM
The new links to Alpha5 work fine, Walter.  Thanks.


Loaded Alpha5B on my camera.  So far some minor glitches.  Sorry if some of this is newb mistakes but it's been a few years since I used ML.

First one is after taking a photo the review briefly displays the image and histogram (as expected) then draws a kind of ghost image over the display.  Short video of what it looks like:



The level display freezes.  It worked for maybe a minute then stopped updating.  Randomly it will change but I haven't figured out if anything triggers it.

When shooting with ETTR All or Snap enabled I get RAW ERROR occasionally.  I'm shooting in my office in low light so I assume it's too dark for further adjustments.  But confused about RAW ERROR messages. 

Is it expected that focus-peaking doesn't work in Magic Zoom?  Because it doesn't; not in the Magic Zoom box and it also turns-off in the main image display.  Also, when the lens is set to manual focus I can't figure out how to move the focus/spot meter location; I have to switch the lens back to auto focus, change the focus point, then switch back to manual focus.

The ML menu times out rather quickly at times.  Sometimes after just a couple of seconds.  And the help file is missing, though I assume I can grab the help file from a beta and copy it to the appropriate location to make it work.

I had a random situation where my front and back dial controls were reversed.  I have my front dial set to adjust aperture and back dial to shutter speed and when shooting video they somehow got reversed.  Haven't reproduced it yet, though.

I used the Intervalometer a bit and at one point it shot 3 photos in quick succession before settling in to the desired interval. 

That's it for now.  It's supposed to rain most of the day so I won't get much chance for more testing until Sunday.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: EOS70D JP on July 04, 2015, 08:57:57 PM
Hello 70D forum!!

@ DeafEyeJedi
Thanks for your reply and your advise!!

@Walter Schulz
Thanks for your reply and your download link.
Now,we were able to download "Alpha5a and Alpha5b" from your links!!

Tonight,We try these firmware!!

Thanks Magic Lantern.
Thanks 70D forum.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Mr.Click on July 06, 2015, 01:45:00 PM
Nikfreak, I found out, that the freazing Touch Screen Issue  after erasing a Picture, is caused by the Playmode actions ( in Image Review Settings) I turned it off now and the Issue is gone. I use Alpha 6
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Mallowsm on July 06, 2015, 04:47:05 PM
Is there any news on getting uncompressed out the hdmi?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 06, 2015, 04:51:20 PM
It's up to Canon to make this happen.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on July 06, 2015, 04:58:29 PM
@Mr Click. THX for the tip. I'll be back in 3 days and look after it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: EOS70D JP on July 07, 2015, 07:33:24 AM
Hi,70D forum.
Thanks Walter!!

We tried "Alpha5".
We can installed "Alpha5a".
Alpha5a is work fine too!!
All of Japan models have wifi function.

Thank you Magic Lantern team!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: mrpanda on July 07, 2015, 05:34:34 PM
bonjour,

je viens d'installer ML sur mon 70D
j'ai une carte SDHC 95mb/s en transfert et 90mb/s en écriture
quand je fais mes test en RAW vidéo il me dit Fram Skipping
pourtant je n'enregistre pas en 1920*1080 je suis en 1700*900
avez vous une solution ?

cordialement
hello,

I just installed on my ML 70D
I have an SDHC 95MB / s transfer and 90MB / s write
when I test my RAW video he said Fram Skipping
yet I do not register in 1920 * 1080 I in 1700 * 900
you have a solution?

Best regards

Mr Panda
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 07, 2015, 05:46:24 PM
SD-card interface in 70D is limited to about 40 MByte/s write rate.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: webdev on July 10, 2015, 06:21:29 AM
Hi All

Total noob to ML (I know.. joy) but from what I've seen from youtube videos this is some amazing stuff. You guys are genius! Thank you for sharing!

I am excited to learn more about it, using it and such, but I have some questions.

1) What mode should the selector wheel be on to install?
2) What happens if I need to swap an SD card.. like if I run out of space on the card I used to install ML and put in a card that is only formatted and empty with canon folders. Does the ML need to be on all the cards?
3) I installed alpha6 and have the A version of the camera, but in the first post some things were removed. I tried looking through bucket for the comments, but where?
4) Would the boot/install make any changes to the camera before starting the firmware update? Like when the camera boots up, is anything from the ML files being applied before actually going to the menu and hitting update firmware?
5) What do you all recommend as the best resource to get good starter info for using ML?

Thank you in advance for your input.

Chris
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: laci.szebeni on July 10, 2015, 12:30:34 PM


Quote from: webdev on July 10, 2015, 06:21:29 AM
Hi All

Total noob to ML (I know.. joy) but from what I've seen from youtube videos this is some amazing stuff. You guys are genius! Thank you for sharing!

I am excited to learn more about it, using it and such, but I have some questions.

1) What mode should the selector wheel be on to install?
2) What happens if I need to swap an SD card.. like if I run out of space on the card I used to install ML and put in a card that is only formatted and empty with canon folders. Does the ML need to be on all the cards?
3) I installed alpha6 and have the A version of the camera, but in the first post some things were removed. I tried looking through bucket for the comments, but where?
4) Would the boot/install make any changes to the camera before starting the firmware update? Like when the camera boots up, is anything from the ML files being applied before actually going to the menu and hitting update firmware?
5) What do you all recommend as the best resource to get good starter info for using ML?

Thank you in advance for your input.

Chris

1. Install ML in manual mode.
2. You need to install it separately on all your cards.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on July 11, 2015, 03:17:35 AM
Is there any chance of developing/implementing white balance controls in the next release?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: xcalibr on July 11, 2015, 05:05:53 PM
I have a 60D which I installed ML on years ago but have been waiting for a stable release for my 70D. I can't wait any longer, I'm ready to install the Alpha because I need audio monitoring very badly but have a question that I did not see answered yet. I purchased the Manfrotto Digital Director for my iPad in hopes that it would allow audio monitoring and while it does have VU meters, it will not play the audio through the iPad. So my question is, after installing ML will the features of the Digital Director all still work? And if they don't, will the uninstall ML procedure work to put the 70D back to the way it was? Thank you!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: TechnoPilot on July 11, 2015, 07:50:21 PM
Quote from: xcalibr on July 11, 2015, 05:05:53 PM
I have a 60D which I installed ML on years ago but have been waiting for a stable release for my 70D. I can't wait any longer, I'm ready to install the Alpha because I need audio monitoring very badly but have a question that I did not see answered yet. I purchased the Manfrotto Digital Director for my iPad in hopes that it would allow audio monitoring and while it does have VU meters, it will not play the audio through the iPad. So my question is, after installing ML will the features of the Digital Director all still work? And if they don't, will the uninstall ML procedure work to put the 70D back to the way it was? Thank you!
Unfortunately to tell you, the audio monitoring, control and meters are not yet implemented in this Alpha as there is a new audio thread that has yet to be merged into the main ML build and it makes sense not to duplicate work, they will then have to be debugged before inclusion.  I was talking with Netfreak on the matter about a month ago when I was asking what I could do to help push the audio development on this Alpha along as even just the meters was all I found missing from ML for my normal workflow.

If the iPad device connection functions using similar forks into the Canon hardware as DSLRController, you might run into some issues as I believe people have reported conflicts running both the external device connected to USB and ML.

As for removal of ML, it is functioning perfectly well with the firmware install, & wait 60secs to uninstall function.

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on July 11, 2015, 10:33:48 PM
@Mr. Click: I now tried several times myself to replicate your issue but touch works for me after using set+wheel actions in playback mode with additionally deleting a picture afterwards. If or once you read this could you re-check after the next update?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: xcalibr on July 12, 2015, 12:06:06 AM
Bummer, thanks TechnoPilot for the update before I did anything. Guess I'll wait and keep using my 60D till a version is ready with the audio features. Thanks again!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: TechnoPilot on July 12, 2015, 12:08:34 AM
Quote from: xcalibr on July 12, 2015, 12:06:06 AM
Bummer, thanks TechnoPilot for the update before I did anything. Guess I'll wait and keep using my 60D till a version is ready with the audio features. Thanks again!
No problem, glad I could help!

Just so you know however, while some have reported issues using DSLRController with ML, I use both personally and haven't yet had issue.

Cheers,
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 13, 2015, 02:00:01 PM
Updated first post. Read changelog.
Notice: I measured a massive dropdown in raw temperature (menu Debug-> internal temp) with today's release. Got ~185 displayed with previous versions and now it's ~167. Anyone can confirm compared + measured to Alpha5/5b???
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 13, 2015, 06:44:06 PM
      @NikFreak

   Just a bit embarrassed Here - I just noticed that with either 70D_111B Alpha6b or 70D_111B Alpha5b running, I have

No Control over ISO in MovieMode/Man.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 13, 2015, 06:55:16 PM
@OlRivrRat:

I am able to set ISO in moviemode and liveview and even via ML menu but I must admit I just tested and can set it exactly once while movie recording after activating arrow key mode and then it seems to block / become unresponsive. Is this what you experience?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: TechnoPilot on July 13, 2015, 07:09:53 PM
Just to comment on my side, I was pretty sure it was working for me and on my 70_111B running Alpha6 I had no issue when not recording, however while recording I have to press and hold the AF mode button to keep the arrow buttons active and I can then change it.

I did notice however that the ISO value displayed often errors and shows an erroneous value (a value from the other direction of the change) when the ISO is change rapidly up or down while recording and remains showing that erroneous value until the smoothing completes or the value is changed again with the arrow keys.  This similar thing happens less frequently while not recording, however the value corrects itself in this case before the smoothing completes, usually in what seems like one second.

I'll move up to Alpha6b later today and see if this changes the behaviour.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 13, 2015, 07:55:31 PM
Quote from: TechnoPilot on July 13, 2015, 07:09:53 PM

I did notice however that the ISO value displayed often errors and shows an erroneous value (a value from the other direction of the change) when the ISO is change rapidly up or down while recording and remains showing that erroneous value until the smoothing completes or the value is changed again with the arrow keys.  This similar thing happens less frequently while not recording, however the value corrects itself in this case before the smoothing completes, usually in what seems like one second.

I'll move up to Alpha6b later today and see if this changes the behaviour.

6b shouldn't change that behaviour but thx for the detailed report (either it hasn't been reported that way til now or I didn't see it til now - it's new to me). That means I need to take a look again at arrow keys but anyways I recommend everybody to update as the log files (links on bitbucket) show no "Path incomplete" messages any more with 6b as it was with earlier builds (idk what it so Path messages were referring to - guess something related to AF  ;D). if you have time please do a comparision of raw temperatures as stated above:

Quote from: nikfreak on July 13, 2015, 02:00:01 PM
...measured a massive dropdown in raw temperature (menu Debug-> internal temp) with today's release. Got ~185 displayed with previous versions and now it's ~167. Anyone can confirm compared + measured to Alpha5/5b???
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: TechnoPilot on July 13, 2015, 08:01:00 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on July 13, 2015, 07:55:31 PM
6b shouldn't change that behaviour but thx for the detailed report (either it hasn't been reported that way til now or I didn't see it til now - it's new to me). That means I need to take a look again at arrow keys but anyways I recommend everybody to update as the log files (links on bitbucket) show no errors with 6b. if you have time please do a comparision of raw temperatures as stated above:
Yeah, truthfully I didn't notice the issue until now as I have not had to change my exposure often after the start of recording.  The questions queued me to try it out.

Sure thing Nikfreak, I'll compare some extended runtime temps tonight before upgrading and after, does it matter to you if it is extended recording temps or just camera running temps, do you have a preference?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 13, 2015, 08:23:39 PM
I am interested in the internal raw temperatures shown in bottom debug menu (raw value). I measured it like that: turned cam on with 5b release and recorded a 5 min h264 video and checked the value in debug menu. Afterwards immediately installed 6b and turned cam off to cool down. Then did the same 5 min h264 with 6b and the values seemed decreased by a raw value of ~15. Maybe you could do the test with a longer video to be rest assured it was no placebo to me but from what i can tell the area around set / lock buttons and sdcard slot in bottom right corner feels much less heated to me now too...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 13, 2015, 09:09:12 PM
      @NikFreak

   Figuring that it was something in My Settings (PilotError) (as I usually do in these sorts of Situ's) I gave the ML Menu another OnceOver

& noticing that I had Gradual Exposure "On", decided to turn it "Off" to see if that would resolve the issue - It Did.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: TechnoPilot on July 13, 2015, 09:10:21 PM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on July 13, 2015, 09:09:12 PM
      @NikFreak

   Figuring that it was something in My Settings (PilotError) (as I usually do in these sorts of Situ's) I gave the ML Menu another OnceOver

& noticing that I had Gradual Exposure "On", decided to turn it "Off" to see if that would resolve the issue - It Did.
Interesting, since I am shooting with it on for those tests, I haven't tried it with it off since it was working.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 13, 2015, 09:42:17 PM
@OlRivrRat: nevermind. Without your report I wouldn't have tried to replicate and found the small bug with arrow key mode...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: camslide on July 13, 2015, 09:48:00 PM
While playing around with the new release my raw temp is around 186. I'm on firmware rev B.
Tried to use Silent Picture but only getting weird results:
http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4047/5imgr3qd_jpg.htm
http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4047/c9726r4b_jpg.htm
Furthermore the power indicator is showing wrong numbers. My shoulder display shows half power but ML overlay only showing 0% power. Maybe because I'm using a 3rd party battery grip?!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 13, 2015, 09:50:45 PM
      @NikFreak

        Temp Test

      70D_111B Alpha5b

      Started @       163º

      >5:45Min H264      188º

   Let it Cool for @Least 15Min with SD & Batt Out & Doors Open

      70D_111B Alpha6b

      Started @      163º

      >5:45Min H264      193º

        Guess I really shouldn't put the "º" after the numbers since the really aren't degrees.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 13, 2015, 09:59:55 PM
These are not °celsius / fahrenheit. Just raw values but thx for testing. Looks like a placebo on my side  :o. No need to test again

Quote from: camslide on July 13, 2015, 09:48:00 PM
While playing around with the new release my raw temp is around 186. I'm on firmware rev B.
Tried to use Silent Picture but only getting weird results:
http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4047/5imgr3qd_jpg.htm
http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4047/c9726r4b_jpg.htm
Furthermore the power indicator is showing wrong numbers. My shoulder display shows half power but ML overlay only showing 0% power. Maybe because I'm using a 3rd party battery grip?!

FRSP is working nice over here. No problems saving as DNG / MLV. Can't reproduce your issue atm. Anyone else having this on A or B rev?
Grip: use w/o to see if it works. I guess it would also happen with original grip
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: TechnoPilot on July 13, 2015, 10:03:04 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on July 13, 2015, 09:59:55 PM
These are not °celsius / fahrenheit. Just raw values but thx for testing. Looks like a placebo on my side  :o

FRSP is working nice over here. No problems saving as DNG / MLV. Can't reproduce your issue atm.
Grip: use w/o to see if it works. I guess it would also happen with original grip
I'll give it a test when I get home as well for a richer dataset of cameras, though I'm also revB.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 13, 2015, 10:24:21 PM
      @NikFreak

   Figuring that it was something in My Settings (PilotError) (as I usually do in these sorts of Situ's) I gave the ML Menu another OnceOver

& noticing that I had Gradual Exposure "On", decided to turn it"Off" to see if that would resolve the issue - It Did.

   More on this - or - Moron this - Whichever you think fits -

Gradual Exposure is not a Prob' in & of itself. What was exacerbating the Situ' was that I had it set to 1EV/512Frames so it wasn't showing any results

on the Display. With patients the Display "Makes the change".
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: camslide on July 13, 2015, 10:36:27 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on July 13, 2015, 09:59:55 PM
These are not °celsius / fahrenheit. Just raw values but thx for testing. Looks like a placebo on my side  :o

FRSP is working nice over here. No problems saving as DNG / MLV. Can't reproduce your issue atm. Anyone else having this on A or B rev?
Grip: use w/o to see if it works. I guess it would also happen with original grip

Tested w/o battery grip and correct values are displayed. One of both batteries was empty.
Seems like the temperature I reported was only for the first 15 minutes. Now I'm between 210-213.
Do you need further data for Silent Picture?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 13, 2015, 10:45:25 PM
@ALL: Updated 1st post changelog:
Please delete ML directory before using 6b so we can be rest assured there are no leftovers(config files) from previous versions

@camslide: Got an idea regarding your issue. But it maybe would only apply if you had fps override active. Just to be sure: can you delete Ml directory and try 6b from scratch and then try to replicate your issue? If it still happens can you note down your steps so we can replicate?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: camslide on July 13, 2015, 11:28:41 PM
@nikfreak:
Didn't have fps override enabled but deleted ML directory and started from scratch. Same results. When trying to open the picture with PS it isn't recognized. Maybe I'm the error?! Do I have to convert the picture?
When reviewing the files by using the file manager pictures look the same as on my computer.
Here are my steps:
-I activated all modules except arkanoid ->reboot
-went to Shoot tab
-scroll down to Silent Picture ->press Q
-set mode to Simple and File Format to DNG
-start live view
-either push Shutter button half way or * button (both works for me)
-push shutter button again to get back to live view
-shut down camera
-insert SD Card to computer and import pictures using Lightroom
-when I try to develop the file in LR I get an error message "file either not supported or damaged"
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 14, 2015, 06:38:01 AM
Quote from: camslide on July 13, 2015, 11:28:41 PM
-I activated all modules except arkanoid ->reboot
-set mode to Simple and File Format to DNG

... means you got dualiso enabled, too, right? Which tools do you use for conversion?
Let's start simple. Disable all modules except silent.mo and then try with fullres mode, too (not simple)! Result?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: camslide on July 14, 2015, 09:02:57 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on July 14, 2015, 06:38:01 AM
... means you got dualiso enabled, too, right? Which tools do you use for conversion?
Let's start simple. Disable all modules except silent.mo and then try with fullres mode, too (not simple)! Result?
I didn't use any conversion tools. Thought, dng should work right out of camera. What tools do I need to use?
I disabled all modules except silent.mo, took some test shot with full-res.

EDIT:I just tested in on my other computer with LR 5.7 and it works great(6.1 on the other one). Can anybody explain why LR 6.1 doesn't work with these dng files?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: TechnoPilot on July 14, 2015, 09:53:11 AM
@NikFreak

Okay so I took the time to run through some temperature testing on my 70D.111B.

Alpha 6
Idle: 184
5:00min: 194
5:45min: 197
10:00min: 202
15:00min: 206

Alpha 6b
Idle: 192
5:00min: 208
5:45min: 211
10:00min: 211
15:00min: 213

Overall I found it ran hotter than Alpha 6, this was with the same settings (manually setup).

One thing I did find different is that with the old Alpha 6 build, if I hit the ISO button while recording video, nothing happened, now in 6b it highlights the ISO value and the control wheel now changes the value and it does not error, however using the AF Mode button while recording does during rapid changes.

If there is anything else I can do to help, let me know.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: lojzik on July 14, 2015, 10:45:02 AM
QuoteHint: There's also a Burn-in test called "Quick test (around 15 min)" in debug menu which you can run!!!
What should be result of Quick test?
Last message was :) and camera is not in initial state (different WB, bulb in AV)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 14, 2015, 11:43:37 AM
There's no real result. Cam is just doing stuff itself. Kind of a self test- I just want to hear if the test finished successfully or you got problems (ofc the test will change lots of values / settings and you will have to start from scratch). As you seen the hint for the test: How about some more help regarding a working feature list (see reminder on 1st page)?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: lojzik on July 14, 2015, 05:27:51 PM
some tests
shot feastures
- advaced bracket
- default params (auto and constant frames) - ok
- default + iso shifting (auto frames) - ok
- default + DOF + constant frames - ok
- default + flash + (auto/constant) frames - ok
- intervalometer
- interval 2s -> real interval for 5 pictures: 3, 1, 3, 1
- trigger - all ok


image review
  - play mode
  exposure adjust - ok
  timelapse play - ok both directions
  compare - ok
  trigger key - all ok
  - image review - ok
  - quick zoom
    single press -> 100% - ok
    fast - ok
    full zoom on AF - error (zoom on center)
    f zoom on last pos - ok
   
Auto ETTR
- in Av sometimes only changes ISO and time with constant exposure (400, 50 ) -> (100, 13), or (400, 50) -> (12800, ?)
trigger mode
   - set - ok
   - halfS dbl - mostly not triggered
   - auto snap - sometimes takes more pictures (3 pictures with different exposure or 4 pictures with identical exposure)
   


edit 14.7. 20:29
Expo lock
  - Off/Tv,ISO/Tv,Av - ok
  - off/ISO,Tv/Tv,Av - ok
  - off/Tv,ISO/Av,Tv - ok
  - iso,Av/Tv,ISO/Av,Tv - ok
  - iso,Av/off/Av,Tv - ok

Dual ISO
  - 200/800 - ok
  - 200/+2EV - ok
  - alternate frames - ok
  - custom file prefix - ok
  - I have some problem with conversion to dng (link to correct cr2hdr, cr2hdr20bit?)

Expo presets
  - Press Info - OK
  - Press Set - Error (canon action, but if i use set for ettr, it works)
  - white balance only in K mode
 
Overlay (all in photo mode)
  - zebras
     under, over - ok
     color space - imo all ok

focus peak
  - greyscale - ok
  - other parameters - it does something, but I can't see exactly difference in result

edit 14.7. 20:38
arcanoid
  - problems with background - after camera start some noise, in other cases last image (LV, from play mode)


edit 15.7. 19:55
crop marks
- show in photo mode - ok
- show in play mode - photo topleft+metadata -> cropmark on whole display

ghost image
- play with photo topleft+metadata -> overlay photo only on topleft in LV

spotmetter
- spotmeter unit - imo ok (but i can't verify right values)
- spot position - ok

LV with ML overlay
- randomly hide focus box

false color
- original image on spotmeter position
- banding detection - BW noisy image in LV (I don't know what is right result)
- green screen - only BW image without something green (I don't know what is right result)

waveform
- all modes do something, I can't verify result

vektorscope
- ok

edit 15.7. 20:22
histogram
- all choises does what I expect (I can't exactly verify displayed histogram)

level indicator
- freezes after I left magiclantern overlay LV page

DOF settings
- ok,  small difference between displayed and real distance (distances to 1 meter)

edit 16.7. 10:25
DotTune AFMA
Scan type - auto
scan passes - 2 and 10, probably ok (display is off during scan (bug or feature?))
AFMA mode - wide and tele on zoom, prime on prime - results looks ok
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 14, 2015, 07:09:34 PM
@lojzik: keep up testing and providing results like that. This is exactly how it is expected and will improve the chance of being merged into unified branch  ;D
@others: may I ask anothe rone of you willing to provide same kind of report as lojzik does (just to raise the chance we don't miss a crucial bug and also verify lojzik's results)

More info on what to do on 1st page (reminder-link / changelog).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 14, 2015, 09:29:01 PM
@lojzik: regarding dualiso please follow Walter's advice if you have Lightroom http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11056.msg151160#msg151160. I provided and used own cr2hdr (https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9Mu66yg5QzRVWF4dWYxMkQyUUE&usp=sharing) in past but removed it from 1st post after people confirmed it working with the LR plugin.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 15, 2015, 06:22:08 AM
@loljzik:

Would you mind me asking which Alpha build did you use for the test that you just did?


@nikfreak:

Welcome back and hope your trip went well.

Just downloaded 6b -- will test thoroughly and report back asap.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: lojzik on July 15, 2015, 07:20:08 AM
@DeafEyeJedi: Alpha6b (magiclantern-Nightly.2015Jul13.70D111B.zip)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: muc2810 on July 15, 2015, 03:44:10 PM
Sorry for offtopic:

Does anybody know if 70D is able to read/write 256GB Cards?

Thanks
Stefan
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: SimonEngel on July 15, 2015, 04:54:06 PM
To all of you who have the same issue with opening the "fullressilentpicture" DNG files. I found a way to make it work. At least it is a temporary solution.
You have to change the "Unique Camera Model" in the metadata of the DNG file to "Canon EOS 60D".

Here is how you can do it:
1. Get exiftool from here: http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/
2. Open a command prompt (like CMD in Windows)
3. Navigate to the folder where your DNG files are located
4. Run the command: exiftool -UniqueCameraModel="Canon EOS 60D" *.DNG
5. DONE: you can now open the DNG files in CameraRAW or Lightroom again

I hope Adobe will fix it soon!

Thanks
Simon
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on July 16, 2015, 06:11:45 PM
It would be nice if work-arounds became sticky posts in the thread.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 17, 2015, 09:05:38 AM
Finally some test feedbacks:

Shot features
- advaced bracket:
- default params (auto and constant frames) - ok
- default + iso shifting (auto frames) - ok
- default + DOF + constant frames - ok
- default + flash + (auto/constant) frames - ok
- intervalometer:
- interval 2s -> real interval for 5 pictures: 3, 1, 3, 1 (confirmed this works)
- trigger - all seems ok


Image review
  - play mode exposure adjust - ok
  - timelapse play - ok both directions (confirmed)
  - trigger key - all ok
  - image review - ok
  - quick zoom single press -> 100% - ok (but sometimes it quick zoom button would become unresponsive and battery reboot to fix)
  - fast - ok
  - full zoom on AF - error (zoom on center) <--- although it seems to be working ok with 10-18 STM lens so not sure about others?
  - f zoom on last pos - ok
   
Auto ETTR
   - in Av sometimes only changes ISO and time with constant exposure (400, 50 ) -> (100, 13), or (400, 50) -> (12800, ?) trigger mode <--- (confirmed but still not sure why and will investigate some more)
   - set - ok
   - halfS dbl - mostly not triggered (confirmed it randomly works but then it would become unresponsive and battery reboot would fix)
   - auto snap - sometimes takes more pictures (3 pictures with different exposure or 4 pictures with identical exposure) <--- I seem to get all identical exposure so not sure what I need to do to duplicate inconsistence?
   

Expo lock
  - Off/Tv,ISO/Tv,Av - ok
  - off/ISO,Tv/Tv,Av - ok
  - off/Tv,ISO/Av,Tv - ok
  - iso,Av/Tv,ISO/Av,Tv - ok
  - iso,Av/off/Av,Tv - ok

Dual ISO
  - 100/800, 100/1600 - ok
  - alternate frames - ok
  - custom file prefix - ok
  - Need to use latest cr2hdr binary to work with 70D files.
  - Movie Dual-ISO for both RAW/MLV still broken.

Expo presets
  - Press Info - OK
  - Press Set - Error (canon action, but if i use set for ettr, it works but don't use often since I rather use by eye)
  - white balance only in K mode works ok
 
Overlay (all in photo mode)
  - Zebras
     under, over - ok
     color space - ok

Focus peak
  - greyscale - ok (although I don't use it much)

Crop marks
- show in photo mode - ok
- show in play mode - photo topleft+metadata -> cropmark on whole display (confirmed)

Ghost image
- play with photo topleft+metadata -> overlay photo only on topleft in LV

Spotmetter
- spotmeter unit - imo ok (but i can't verify right values -- confirmed not working)
- spot position - ok

LV with ML overlay
- randomly hide focus box ( I can confirm this but it may be related to the 3-4 sec limit? )

False color
- original image on spotmeter position
- banding detection - BW noisy image in LV (confirmed)
- green screen - only BW image without something green (confirmed but unsure)

Waveform
- all modes do work but sometimes flicker (like as if CPU was running too high?)

Vector scope
- ok


Histogram
- works well for the most part. (sometimes it would freeze and become unresponsive reboot battery helps)

Level indicator
- freezes after I left magiclantern overlay LV page (confirmed it freezes up sometimes but I don't use this)

DOF settings
- ok (wish I could see it in Feet as oppose to Meters -- maybe Im forgetting to change something but don't use this much either)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: X-STATE on July 17, 2015, 09:26:22 AM
@DeafEyeJedi
What about hot pixels?
In your opinion, which version works better? Alpha6b or Alpha5b?
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 17, 2015, 09:48:21 AM
Great question @X-STATE, however, am still investigating on that and will post Video with MLV comparisons soon.

Expecting to see dancing colors @ ISO 1600 or 2000 & up for RAW/MLV recordings.

So far it seems that 6b is slightly more stable than previous build. Good progress @nikfreak!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: X-STATE on July 17, 2015, 08:27:01 PM
well...
Alpha6b not suitable for shooting RAW video
a lot of hot pixels across the frame on any of ISO 100 to 1600
Immersed pixels strange shape of a cross https://yadi.sk/i/YmnEW8f-hvvr6
I went back to Alpha5b
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on July 18, 2015, 05:31:02 PM
My initial investigation shows its not good for hot pixels for video. 
I was getting 20 or so at ISO 100, 1600p @ 2.39 (in about 30s).
I expect long exposure photography to also have the same issue.
For raw video shooting, I would suggest 5b. 

I was wanting to check out more before I reported back,
but Ive been taking a course so I haven't had as much time
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 18, 2015, 07:50:19 PM
@Everyone --

Today's finally the day I'm going to do a major test thoroughly aiming to determine what's causing the hot pixels that many of you are reporting.

Though I admit I have a few questions...

- Is this due to long recording times on certain ISO's (100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, etc) or does it not matter how many seconds is being recorded?

- Does it matter which resolution you guys want to record in terms of aspect ratio?

I'm going to put together a quick sample footage as soon as I hear back from you guys in this particular matter.

Will be doing the same for not only 6B but as well as previous builds just to be sure.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 18, 2015, 10:26:24 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on July 18, 2015, 07:50:19 PM

Will be doing the same for not only 6B but as well as previous builds just to be sure.

Thoughts?

sounds good to me. We have two alternatives: using another write channel if your tests indicate (like X-STATE's) there's a difference compared to 5b.
5b hasn't edmac_raw slurping enabled. But atm I would like to keep it enabled (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15233.msg148195#msg148195) but as a last resort I would ofc disable it again if there's no other way to get rid off the reported hot pixels. But first let's confirm it again by your test. I guess comparing 5b and 6b should suffice
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: hashwood on July 18, 2015, 11:09:49 PM
can someone please help me?
does anyone have the original firmware for d70, I think mine got corrupted and I need to overwrite.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 18, 2015, 11:17:23 PM
Please describe error.
Remove battery, remove card, insert battery and startup without card. If cam starts up without error (well, obvious one: No card found) you most likely have a corrupted card. If so: Format card in cardreader, format in cam and install ML once again.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 19, 2015, 08:46:51 AM
Alright here's what I've got so far...

First here are the settings I used within ML:  Shot in 23.97 fps (sometimes it changes to 23.98 randomly) 1/48th in 1728 x 972 for Take 1 & 1824x764 for Take 2 @ ISO 100-3200 (f4.5 - f18 depending on scene) w GD on during recording. Also set card to exFAT and card warm-up (256mb).

Post workflow as follows:  MLVFS > AE (Cinelog-C Rec_709 Wide DR v.2) > FCPX

5b Take 1 (warning! I pushed the Exposure up by +1.00 via ACR for each clip on this one):
https://vimeo.com/133876272

6b Take 1:
https://vimeo.com/133876273

5b Take 2:
https://vimeo.com/133876274

6b Take 2:
https://vimeo.com/133876275

Seems to confirmed with @X-STATE's comments regarding HP being more prone with 6b versus 5b.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on July 19, 2015, 09:26:45 PM
A few more 6B tests video centric

General video (H264 & RAW)
- variable fps - not working
- Manual mode: Auto Exposure - ISO working and Auto Exposure Range, be careful to set EC parameters to cover the range.
- variable bit rate not available
- dual iso video _not working
- hdr video (not tested)
- focus peaks _ yes
- zebras - over/under _yes.
- rgb histogram _ looked good.

Raw Video
Tried ISO 100 1600p @ 2.39, 23.97fps - within 10sec too many hot pixels (20+)
Same result at 1728p @ 2.39.
At this rate I did not even bother with the higher 3X crop mode or shadow noise tests.

In looking a Defeye's test shot's I would suggest EV=0, and ISO=800+, as a number of those shots are underexposed,
which puts less light on sensor hence not stressing as much.

Really interesting is that when I played back 5b recorded ML raw video, on the 6b, I would see hot pixels???  Regardless of which view I choice.
Yet when I played using 5B on playback they weren't there???  This made me think its the player or reading of the raw file that's a potential problem???. 
** Others with hp in 6b please confirm if your 5b raw videos have more hp on 6b playback **
No hot pixels on record or playback for H264. 


ML grey scale view still is unacceptably slow / unusable.  The others are OK.

Some progress was made the recording and playback were smoother and faster with 6b than 5b.
Only anecdotingly it looked like the recorded panning was smoother (need to do much more testing to be accurate
but it sure looked smoother in camera playback).






Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: sergey on July 20, 2015, 11:08:17 AM
File     .DNG (size 35 MB)  received in mode    -Intervalometer-  Silent Picture - maximum resolution ---    does not open (Adobe DNG Converter 9.1 , LR 6.1 ).
Faststone display only preview 128 x 84  = 0,01 MP
It should be possible  converting  ?  than?

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 20, 2015, 08:23:29 PM
Thx to DeafEyeJedi, X-STATE and ShootMeAlready for their video related test. I would like you to test more. Please follow the link below. You will see 2 folders each containing a test build for 70D.111A and 70D.111B. Now read carefully:


If you have time please do some measurable test (only look for hot pixels, nothing more) and tell me which of the zip in the folder works best for you. According to your upcoming report I will push the source-code of your recommended build to bitbucket and it will be part of the next release. Thx for participating:

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9Mu66yg5QzRfkxkYXgtSkVoaVlDazZ4TmswV1d1eU1GLW9zQldWSk1FdVR0XzkyV3NsQ2M&usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9Mu66yg5QzRfkxkYXgtSkVoaVlDazZ4TmswV1d1eU1GLW9zQldWSk1FdVR0XzkyV3NsQ2M&usp=sharing)

Hope to get 2 equal resulting feedbacks (one would probably be less to convince me (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg151366#msg151366))
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 20, 2015, 08:32:58 PM
Thanks for the PM @nikfreak!

Today I am off work and would be glad to jump on board with this measurable test of yours for HP.

Downloaded both 70D_EDMAC_33 & 70D_NO_SLURP files for 111.B and will report back.

*agreed*
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: satriani on July 20, 2015, 09:17:07 PM
70D_EDMAC_33
(http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/70dedmac33b845091dwu.png)



70D_NO_SLURP
(http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/70dnoslurpgpdm2z70rb.png)

No comment ;)

EDIT: Link from Dropbox is not a good idea  ::)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: pontius on July 20, 2015, 09:28:05 PM
Just tested (with ISO 200) and the results are:
NO_SLURP (http://s2.postimg.org/i6l1ki2zt/70_D_NO_SLURP.png)
EDMAC_33 (http://s18.postimg.org/xxwux0oe1/70_D_EDMAC_33.png)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 21, 2015, 12:16:26 AM
Here are the test results per your request.

Shot in 23.97fps 1824 x 764 (2.39) w 10-18mm ISO 100-3200 @ 12mm closed down to f25 (w exFAT recording & card warm-up enabled).

Workflow as follows: MLVFS > AE (no grade) > FCPX

70D_EDMAC_33:
https://vimeo.com/134037386

70D_NO_SLURP:
https://vimeo.com/134037385

Screenshots from EDMAC_33 DNG files via ACR:
ISO 100 - (https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3759/19683281099_94f27c3e33_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vZkXHv)
ISO 200 - (https://farm1.staticflickr.com/396/19681892860_fbd4a96a8d_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vZdR3m)
ISO 400 - (https://farm1.staticflickr.com/413/19874868081_fe735388c1_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/whgTRk)
ISO 800 - (https://farm1.staticflickr.com/259/19248985993_b52b2626d3_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vjY5UR)
ISO 1000 - (https://farm1.staticflickr.com/289/19681879258_800ef7888a_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vZdLZQ)
ISO 1250 - (https://farm1.staticflickr.com/486/19681894780_f8b7e3dbdf_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vZdRBs)
ISO 2000 - (https://farm1.staticflickr.com/461/19247233804_8990d2f941_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vjP73G)
ISO 3200 - (https://farm1.staticflickr.com/294/19843690686_38585f846a_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wew6U3)

EDMAC_33 obviously has HP whereas NO_SLURP doesn't seem to have any.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 21, 2015, 12:58:28 AM
ok can you please check again "Exposure presets / Press SET". Seems to work for me. I can toggle via INFO and SET button.Maybe I understood it wrong.
I also re-checked dualiso for movie mode. CMOS registers are ok, too. Nothing wrong in code and adtg module confirms it, too. Could it be workflow related? I never tried out on my own though - just checked it thrice in code. Additionally found a wrong address for 70D.111A regarding quickzoom in play mode and trying to re-produce the other reported bugs by you (yellow / remarkings). I can confirm broken "Full Zoom on AFPoint". You can follow it here:

https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/pull-request/1/70d-merge-finalize/diff#comment-None

Some of the reported bugs are hard to read and understand but I am keeping m best on trying to reproduce
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 21, 2015, 01:06:04 AM
Sure, will do. I often ask myself if I make sense in understanding what I'm trying to troubleshoot or reproduce & encounter because I don't seem to understand myself at times.

Though I'll keep trying my best, as always.

Before I go ahead and do that -- do I just use NO_SLURP build or use the latest 5b/6b?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 21, 2015, 01:21:52 AM
you use the NO_SLURP build please  8)
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 21, 2015, 01:28:50 AM
https://vimeo.com/134043093
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on July 21, 2015, 06:21:57 AM
Played around quite a bit with auto exposure, and got it to keep the set ISO range.  So Manual Mode, AUTO ISO being limited by a range works. 
Its tricky, as the 5s exit from ML bug, really makes it hard to edit the many curve parameters.
I am by no means an expert on this ML feature, and would love a clear tutorial on each parameter.

Here's the ML thread I found most helpful.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7208.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: lojzik on July 21, 2015, 07:51:17 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on July 21, 2015, 12:58:28 AM
ok can you please check again "Exposure presets / Press SET". Seems to work for me. I can toggle via INFO and SET button.Maybe I understood it wrong.
I found what is problem. Exposure presets /Press SET works only If I disable  Canon settings for this button (C.Fn III -> Custom controls). But Auto ETTR /Press SET overrides this Canon settings. I don't know what is feature and what is bug, but it's inconsistent.


C.Fn III SET:OffC.Fn III SET: flash...
Exposure presetsSET -> change presetSET -> flash...
AETTRSET -> AETTRSET -> AETTR(edit: precisely, shows flash exposure compensation, but immediately starts LV with AETTR)


Quote from: nikfreak on July 21, 2015, 12:58:28 AM
Some of the reported bugs are hard to read and understand but I am keeping m best on trying to reproduce
What bugs from me are hard to read and understand? (sorry, I don't speak English, but I can try to rewrite it)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Nonac on July 21, 2015, 11:38:48 PM
Intervalometer problem [111B] Alpha 6B Version

I set the camera to take pictures per 15 seconds but the camera took instantly (picture after picture) (in long exposure mode 15'')
tried with 20 seconds = same result
tried with 30 seconds = ok

Zoom Problem

When i press the zoom button it zooms to the maximum .



Thats all for me :)
Keep doing your lovely work!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Canniballissimo on July 22, 2015, 06:24:19 AM
Remove SD-card and format it in your PC.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: TechnoPilot on July 22, 2015, 06:29:54 AM
Quote from: Canniballissimo on July 22, 2015, 06:24:19 AM
Remove SD-card and format it in your PC.
Hi hate to say, but that is probably not the best option as it would leave the boot flag intact on his 70D.

If you are just trying to roll back simply delete all the ML files from the SD card and replace them with the version you are wanting to load.  Just remember to ensure it is the correct A or B build.

If you are wanting to uninstall ML then simply go to the update firmware option in the Canon menu and wait for the timer on ML to run out (60 seconds).  If that is not working on the newest build then try rolling back first as I know Alpha5b worked for this.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: KsCanon on July 22, 2015, 06:35:54 AM
I made the post bout not being able to remove ML,
It was a lame brain moment on my part. I didn't have my camera in Manual. I figured it out. Tried to delete my post before anyone replied.

Thank you for your help
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: sergey on July 22, 2015, 01:01:21 PM
Help!
File.DNG (size 35.1 MB , 20 MPix)  received in ML should open in  LR 6.1 or PS 2015 CC (Windows) ?
Or it is necessary to convert than ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Frank7D on July 22, 2015, 05:18:32 PM
sergey,

Are your DNGs not opening in those programs?
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 22, 2015, 07:04:49 PM
@sergey:

Which converters did you use that spitted out DNG's that wouldn't open?

Sounds Iike you didn't replace the cr2hdr binary to the latest to work with 70D files.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 22, 2015, 09:35:55 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on July 21, 2015, 01:28:50 AM
https://vimeo.com/134043093

Got same results with dualiso in moviemode like seen in your video. I rechecked again but the cmos registers are ok and I have no clue atm what is causing the mangled lcd colors.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: mrpanda on July 22, 2015, 10:57:24 PM
Hello,
I do not know if this is the right place for this question but my English is not very good and I know that this subject on the 70D on this forum.
I wanted to know Max resolution that could save the 70D in RAW and the most aproprier SD card for this use (speed Writing )
RAW because I see the video on YT 70d and wanted to know the resolution used when recording
thanking you

Best regards

Bonjour,
je sais pas si c'est le bon endroit pour cette question mais mon anglais n'est pas tres bon et je connais que ce sujet sur le 70D sur ce forum.
je voulais savoir la resolution Max que pouvais enregistrer le 70D en RAW et la carte SD la plus aproprier pour cette utilisation (vitesse d'ecriture)
car je vois des video RAW du 70d sur YT et je voulais savoir la résolution utiliser lors de l'enregistrement
en vous remerciant

cordialement
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: JonnyG70D on July 23, 2015, 03:10:50 AM
I just successfully installed ML 111A on my 70D.  One of the major reasons I was interested in ML was to shoot raw video.

Unfortunately I don't have any cards that read the higher speed.

I am buying some tomorrow, but I wasn't sure the best way to start using them.  Should I clone the root files onto the new card?

Should I do a fresh install of ML when I buy the new cards?

Should I un-install ML and re-install it?

I am brand new at this and just want to make sure I do it the right way the first time.

Thanks,

Jon
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Via47126 on July 23, 2015, 05:53:29 AM
Just downloaded ML on my 70D and the settings in ML only last a couple seconds before it switches back to live view. Anyway of fixing this? Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 23, 2015, 06:23:54 AM
First page, first post -> What's not working
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: chmteacher on July 23, 2015, 07:34:03 AM
Crash:

ASSERT: err == SUCCESS
at ./MainCtrl/MainCtrl.c:127, task ?
lv:0 mode:0


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015May31.70D111A
Mercurial changeset   : 8a4bc95af250+ (70D-merge) tip
Built on 2015-05-31 07:23:14 UTC by ml@ml-pc.
Free Memory  : 207K + 1594K
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 23, 2015, 07:42:37 AM
@chmteacher:

Use the NO_SLURP release from here and try to reproduce the crash:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9Mu66yg5QzRfkxkYXgtSkVoaVlDazZ4TmswV1d1eU1GLW9zQldWSk1FdVR0XzkyV3NsQ2M&usp=sharing
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: sergey on July 23, 2015, 08:49:04 AM
In  The  File.DNG  ( received in mode     Silent Picture - maximum resolution )  have over exposure ( very light). 
Not work sunny day  --- (iso100,aperture 2.8 , time  1/100) or  (iso100,aperture 2.8 , time 1/2000)    --  snapshots  identical--very light.
as it should be ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: camslide on July 23, 2015, 08:59:46 AM
Quote from: sergey on July 23, 2015, 08:49:04 AM
In  The  File.DNG  ( received in mode     Silent Picture - maximum resolution )  have over exposure ( very light). 
Not work sunny day  --- (iso100,aperture 2.8 , time  1/100) or  (iso100,aperture 2.8 , time 1/2000)    --  snapshots  identical--very light
Max Shutter Speed is around 1/15. For more information read here:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12523.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: sergey on July 23, 2015, 09:22:17 AM
-
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: can-on on July 23, 2015, 11:26:14 AM
Dear nikfreak, thank ML job.

70D 111A installed, much of the problem is sometimes interrupted freeze the motion detection machine
70 indicates the error, take out battery to place it back again after some time.
Unfortunately, it is not stable
I think there is a lot of work with him, and if time permits would be needed "audio remote"
function would be necessary.
You could then be integrated audio remote ??

thank you
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: mrpanda on July 23, 2015, 11:32:21 AM
Hello,

nobody knows the answer to my question ?

because I can not find anything on the internet
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: camslide on July 23, 2015, 02:54:03 PM
Quote from: mrpanda on July 23, 2015, 11:32:21 AM
Hello,

nobody knows the answer to my question ?

because I can not find anything on the internet
Max resolution is 1824x1026. But I can only record for about 6s as the card slot only has a max write speed of 40MB/s and calculated write speed is 74.9MB/s.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on July 23, 2015, 05:07:09 PM
Camslide, MrPanda

If you want 1080p FHD then I suggest H264, its quite usable with ISO max of 1600 the graininess is under control.  This is also your most ISO friendly for low light shooting.  Once variable bit rate is working fine detail will be more awesome, and once Dual ISO  in video mode is working you will be able to shoot HDR.

If you want to shoot raw, here's some resolutions/recommended use. 
Use an aspect ratio to extend your clip times.  I suggest 2.39 or 2.35 (this is used to master to 2.39).
Use 24fps to extend your clip times, and if you dont like motion blur and want sharpness use a faster shutter (I like to use 1/160s).
Hot pixels (HP) can be a problem as raw clip time extends, check your HP against ISO it varies, but ISO max. of 400 should be clean.
Shadow noise can be a problem in rather low light raw, but 400 ISO max should be clean.  Higher ISO shadow noise appears in low light shots.
This was measured using Sandisk extreme pro 32GB card with 95Mb/s read/ 90MB/s write.

1824 x 776 @ 2.35 / 24fps got 14s.   Good for master shots / pans (90% of 1920 @ 2.35) typically pans are 7s.
1792x762 @ 2.35 /24fps   got 16s.  Good for most dialogue.  Probably very usable for most cut dialogue shots.
1728x736 @ 2.35 /24fps   got 22s. Good for extended dialogue.  Rarely does one talk for 22s in a shot without need for a cut.
1600 x 680 @ 2.35 / 24fps got 62s.  Good for scenes. Wow!  This pretty much is same as continuous as rare to shoot past 30s in a scene.

Now here are some continuous raw resolutions, which is good for documentary shoots or web streaming.
1504x640 @ 2.35 /24fps  is continuous.
720p @ 16:9 /24fps is continuous, and cuts nicely with 720p @16:9 60fps H264 for slow motion frame rate.

Until variable fps is working better, I would suggest avoid the higher 3X zoom resolutions.  Once variable fps is working better, you may be able
to shoot 2k for about 7s clips for what that is worth.   
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: camslide on July 23, 2015, 10:01:55 PM
@ShootMeAlready
Thanks for this very informative post! I just wanted to answer the max resolution question from mrpanda.
I will try some of your settings to check whether my SD card is fast enough or if I have to upgrade.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: snakec on July 24, 2015, 10:47:35 AM
Look This Please

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11056.msg151666#msg151666
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: can-on on July 24, 2015, 07:03:27 PM
Hi all,

Anyone know when to expect "audio remote" feature ?
and will have refined "motion detection" error 70 about  ?
(111A)

thanks for the answers
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: tryanbran on July 25, 2015, 06:27:28 AM
Attempted to install ML with the instructions given, this error turned up:

http://i.imgur.com/HjVxGHO.jpg

I tried it with both versions to no avail. I confirmed that all necessary files were present on the SD card prior to hitting the firmware update option, as well as that the SD card was formatted properly in camera.

Card used:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I3BQJNA/ref=s9_psimh_gw_p147_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=07P7HA62AE5MG0X1JWS0&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2079475242&pf_rd_i=desktop

Any suggestions as to how I can fix this problem?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 25, 2015, 09:25:58 AM
Download file linked in first post, extract them and copy extracted contents to card. If it fails with an error message about version you have to try the other file.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 25, 2015, 12:49:58 PM
Can't follow this bug posted here:
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg151488#msg151488

Guess it should be clear that no function has to be assigned on CFN III to set button.
Neither CFN III is mis-set by autoexposure and ETTR nor do i seem to have a malfunction of both features. I would like someone to reproduce before I release a new test-build:

https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/pull-request/1/70d-merge-finalize/diff#comment-None

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: [email protected] on July 25, 2015, 02:04:37 PM
What about the "Trap Focus" feature?
I did use this fantastic feature with my old 60D, it's very useful with vintage lens.
Thanks and greate job!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 25, 2015, 06:26:19 PM
      @NikFreak

   Went to ~ https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/pull-request/1/70d-merge-finalize/diff#comment-None

& found this slightly puzzling comment ~

" 70D: disable electronic level / level indicator (freezes after ~1minute of use) "

   I am currently running ~ " magiclantern-Nightly.2015Jul20.70D111B (NoSlurp) "  & My Electronic Level works quite

well for as long as I want it to in both Movie & StillsLV as long as I don't access the ML Menu. If ML Menu is accessed the

E'Level will be Frozen upon return to Movie or StillsLV.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 25, 2015, 08:46:22 PM
@OlRivrRat: http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg145913#msg145913

can you check above link: Disable ML Overlays by pressing INFO button until you reach canon's electronic level. Leave that screen enabled for a while (~1-2min). Try to enable ML overlays again after that time by pressing INFO button. I was able to freeze the cam like this ON Canon's electronic level screen exactly one time out of several tries and have also found another discussion on other cam forum where it happened to a guy on Canon's screen (date he reported it was no ML available for 70D). Check also my comments below.Didn't know the hidden and facetracking stuff before:

https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/pull-request/1/70d-merge-finalize/diff#Lplatform/70D.111B/features.hT32

Problem is I wouldn*'t be in control of what users do: You cannot force them not to use the INFO button to disable ML overlays. Primary goal is to become official part of the nightly ML builds and therefore disable all bugs found if I am not able to fix them. That is my idea of avoiding unnecessary discussions at a later time. But you might try again like instructed above (someone else plz do so, too!!) and convince me to leave it enabled...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 25, 2015, 08:46:56 PM
ML Leveler (NO_SLURP July 20 build):


AETTR (NO_SLURP July 20 build):

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 25, 2015, 08:52:26 PM
@DeafeyeJedi: thx for the vids. can you check electronic level like I instructed in my last post plz, too?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 25, 2015, 09:43:01 PM
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: tryanbran on July 25, 2015, 11:14:40 PM
http://i.imgur.com/HjVxGHO.jpg

Still getting the same error. Suggestions?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 25, 2015, 11:22:20 PM
Show card's root directory contents.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: tryanbran on July 25, 2015, 11:29:33 PM
http://i.imgur.com/A2HArez.png

Currently have these files on the SD card. I tried with both versions.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 25, 2015, 11:36:09 PM
Looks good.
Format card in cam, insert card into cardreader and copy extracted nightly contents to card once again. Retry and report.
If it fails: Card type and size used?
Have you tried another card?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: tryanbran on July 26, 2015, 12:07:16 AM
Sadly it failed once again.

Card type and size is:

http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-64GB-UHS-I-SDA3/dp/B00I3BQJNA/ref=sr_1_3?&ie=UTF8&qid=1437707571&sr=8-3&keywords=kingston+sda3

I also tried it on this card but it failed too:

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Class-Memory-SF32UY-TQMN/dp/B00B7ID99I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1437862039&sr=8-1&keywords=sony+32gb
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 26, 2015, 03:11:48 AM
      @NikFreak

   With Canon "Viewfinder level" 'Show' ~ Stepping through InfoScreens while in Movie or StillsLV Does Not produce

the Canon "Viewfinder level" in any of Canons Overlays but does render M'L's Level Frozen upon return to the M'L' OverLay

screen ~ The only time that Canons "Level" presents is if the cam' is in StillsEVF & I step to the "Level" Info Screen.

   With Canon "Viewfinder level" 'Hide' ~ The Freezing of M'L's Level CEASES COMPLETELY ~ Eureka ~ Please Do Not

disable the M'L' Level as it is MUCH MORE Valuable than Canons in that it can be on display @ all times if One chooses to

have it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 26, 2015, 04:01:17 AM
                @tryanbran

        It may just be a Diff' between Mac & PC but it appears as though those files may be getting Modified while on your PC or during Copy to SD card. Try

Placing the .zip on the SD Card & then Unstuff & Move them from Folder to Root. Curious to see if the Modified Date UpDates or stays the Same as the

Creation Date as it does on My Mac -- & Also, Of Course, If it resolves your issue.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: tryanbran on July 26, 2015, 04:55:38 AM
@OlRivrRat

Alright so I tried placing the zip file into the SD card and extracting it there, sadly the problem still shows up :(
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 26, 2015, 06:26:16 AM
      @tryanbran

   I'm beginin to think that you Might just Be Messin with Us as

                                                 Firmware update program

                                                                Update file

                                                          cannot be found.

                                                  Please check the memory

                                                        card and reload the

                                                       battery and try again.

Does Not seem to be normal Canon Warning ~

It Should read

                                                   Update camera firmware

                                                    Memory card containing

                                                     firmware is required to

                                                                   update
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: tryanbran on July 26, 2015, 07:12:20 AM
@OlRivrRat

Rest assured, no one's messing with anyone haha.

That second message that you posted does show up when I put in the SD card without any Magic Lantern files on it and try to update. However, the first one shows up only if the files are on the SD card.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 26, 2015, 12:40:21 PM
@tryanbran: when did you buy the cam? Does it show 1.1.1 as firmware version?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: tryanbran on July 27, 2015, 02:40:05 AM
@nikfreak

I purchased the camera sometime in October-November 2013; I don't remember the exact date. And yeah the version number shows up as 1.1.1.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 27, 2015, 07:41:51 AM
ok as dumb as it sounds but seems like user error. I re-tried the installer and it works. Try another card!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 27, 2015, 08:38:58 AM
Just in case: Change both filenames to uppercase/lowercase and try again.
And sorry for the pun.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: hardtmuth on July 27, 2015, 01:20:11 PM
Hi guys,

I'm only reading your thread and right now I don't use ML on my 70D. It's quite new, about 4 weeks, so I would like to use it w/o ML for few months and get most of it (I was using 1000d before).

I've noticed on forum that there are some flaws with right temperature read. Maybe it will be useful, but for each photo in exif data there is a one line named Camera Temperature which states what it names. I've checked few photos and it varies from 25 to 40 degrees Celsius. More on that I've tested what temperature is on photos after some movie recording and as I supposed - the temperature is higher.

Maybe this is the right way to make some look up table or conversion equation according to that exif data from photo and raw data red by ML from Canon?

I'm sorry if someone said about this feature, I've red all pages, but maybe I don't remember everything.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 27, 2015, 02:02:17 PM
@hardtmuth: temperatures have been displayed wrong on earlier builds. Feature of displaying temperatures is still a WIP. Therefore I disabled that feature. We don't really suffer from temperature problems in terms of overheating until the cam shuts down or gets bricked. Most reports belonged to the wrong displayed temperatures or some placebos. Nothing to worry for 1st time users.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: tryanbran on July 28, 2015, 06:32:04 AM
I don't wanna waste anymore of your guys' time so thank you so much for helping out! I'll be sure to update if it does ever end up working.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: hardtmuth on July 28, 2015, 07:18:23 AM
@nikfreak: okey :). I hope that in a few months I'll start to use ML and do some tests.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 28, 2015, 07:31:57 AM
      @ tryanbran

   You should try to find someone in your area who is successfully running M'L' on an OlderVersion of 70D like yours & borrow their SDCard

for a quick test. If that works just copy the files off that card to your card & cross your fingers.

   Or send me an EM @ [email protected] & I'll send you my address so you can send me an SDCard that I'll put my files on & send it

back to you. Just a Cheepo PNY 2GB should work just fine ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: sergey on July 28, 2015, 10:58:26 AM
I was told  how open   in  LR 6.1 or PS 2015 CC (Windows)   File.DNG  received in ML . Сan anyone help.

At least it is a temporary solution.
You have to change the "Unique Camera Model" in the metadata of the DNG file to "Canon EOS 60D".

Here is how you can do it:
1. Get exiftool from here: http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/
2. Open a command prompt (like CMD in Windows)
3. Navigate to the folder where your DNG files are located
4. Run the command: exiftool -UniqueCameraModel="Canon EOS 60D" *.DNG
5. DONE: you can now open the DNG files in CameraRAW or Lightroom again

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: jasongw on July 29, 2015, 10:08:43 PM
Quick question. I skimmed the thread and didn't see this answered, so please don't kill me if I just missed it :). Does this make it possible to capture clean 1080p from the HDMI port?

Thanks!

Jason
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: ikemikek on July 30, 2015, 01:22:53 AM
Hello,
I realize this is off-topic and I sincerely apologize if this is not the appropriate place for this.
I was wondering if it is possible to use an external HDMI monitor with the 70D running ML and retain the touch-focus capabilities? In other words, to ensure that both the external monitor and the flip-out LCD are displaying the live view.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: aedipuss on July 30, 2015, 03:56:52 PM
@ tryanbran 

if you are still checking the thread - is there any way for you to use a pc rather than a mac?  i've had trouble with macs trashing cards with ml files on them.  something about the file extensions used macs don't like and they write a bunch of hidden files/folders to the card that you can't see.  i've taken a working ml card out of a camera, checked it on a pc, put it in a mac pro and then neither the pc nor the camera could read them.  a low level format was the only way to fix it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 30, 2015, 06:35:23 PM
      @aedipuss

   It appears as though, from the ScreenShot that He posted a link to, Tryanbran is using a PC.

As far as M'L' on Mac is concerned ~ Myself & 2 Friends have been working with M'L' on Macs for several

years with Great Success. My MacPro is an older 1 that can not run an OS newer than 10.7.5 but the 2

other Guys have New IMacs & MacPros & the Newest OSs ~ No Problems. The Cams range from My 5DC,

5DMk2 & 70D to their 5DMk3s, 70Ds & 60D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Danny on July 31, 2015, 08:58:38 PM
Hi :)

I have a problem and I dont know how fix it.

If I recording to RAW o my 70D in new version of ML (Jul13 version) cant export video to MOV/DNG in Mlrawviewer (1.4.3 or 1.3.3). Click on ''Add clip to export queue'' and nothing happed. But in old version of ML (May31 version) with old ML RAW record its work fine.

Anyone have same problem?

Thanks for reaction, thanks for ML and sorry for my eng. :)

 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: aedipuss on August 01, 2015, 05:00:10 PM
@olrivrrat - ok might have been a one off.  it was the only time i'd ever tried having a mac read a ml card.  won't do it again.  almost lost that card.

does anyone know if the 70d has a UHS2 sd card interface?  i just picked up a card read writes an honest, tested 200MB/s but only if used in a UHS2 device.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 01, 2015, 05:04:07 PM
There is no Canon DSLR supporting UHS-II.
If your card is from SanDisk it will have inferior UHS-I compatibility mode speed. Maxing out at about 47 MByte/s write rate.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Surrealtime on August 01, 2015, 10:31:30 PM
@jasongw The hardware doesn't support clean HDMI so it will never be possible as far as I know.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: aedipuss on August 02, 2015, 06:29:51 AM
@walter schulz - oh well, at least it's a lexar and does 85MB/s write in UHS-I
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: aedipuss on August 03, 2015, 02:03:59 AM
is it only me or does the development of this 70d ml seem a bit off?  i have used ml for a couple years on my 60d and am quite happy with it.  i need the standard still frame type stuff like HDR multiframe control and the standard video stuff like audio levels and manual control along with zebras.  i am more than happy with the 70d 90mb/s ALL I-FRAME video with autofocus control and have no use for raw video.

so there is nothing in these alpha versions i would want, but if the standard stuff were added i'd gladly help test it out.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: chrisfrancia on August 03, 2015, 04:47:26 AM
i gotta say I agree, I was at first excited for raw video but after finding out about the inconvenience of the 45 mb/s... I wish other smaller things were implemented instead.

For example, with the current state of ML for the 70D for video I mainly use ML for the focus dots/peaking, however if I want to see audio levels I have to sacrifice this
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: bben83 on August 03, 2015, 06:20:53 AM
Thanks a lot for your very good job !

I wonder why the movie rec key isn't more available in this alpha6b version ?

Can I hope this function to be back in the further versions ?

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: LostFate on August 03, 2015, 06:24:14 AM
First and foremost, great job on the port to the 70D!

I've been silently stalking following the progress of this project since before it moved to this new(er) thread. Coming from the T3i, the 70D is a massive step up... but I have to echo the sentiment of the fellows above me. I've been considering putting the bug in your ear for bulb ramping for a while now but felt like I'd be an a$$. Seeing as all the cool kids are doing it, I figure I'll finally make the request.

Disclaimer: Well aware that this is a free project that you aren't getting paid for. These are not demands. You do whatever you think is best... Just, if what you think is best happens to be bulb ramping there will be internet high fives waiting for you.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: TechnoPilot on August 03, 2015, 06:25:31 AM
I've been noticing a lot more inconsistency with the latest 6b build and 6 from the 5b switching from a display picture style to the record picture style.  It used to reliably switch, but the new versions don't always, especially for the first recording after a bootup.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on August 03, 2015, 06:48:22 AM
Quote from 1st post:

QuoteUpdate your forum signature and add your model (70D.111A or 70D.111B) so you can expect help with bugs.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: TechnoPilot on August 03, 2015, 07:45:27 AM


Quote from: nikfreak on August 03, 2015, 06:48:22 AM
Quote from 1st post:

Hi Nikfreak,

Sorry about the lack of that, I'll boot up my computer tomorrow, login and add it.  For now, just know I'm running the 111B firmware.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on August 03, 2015, 06:42:02 PM
As long as folks are kicking it about, and for what its worth, I think a higher quality H264 would be best way to improve IQ.
The two features being most coveted are variable bit rate (better detail & push colour grade harder), and dual iso video (for HDR).
H264 lets one use higher ISO without Hot Pixel hassles, and the workflow is faster than raw.  ALL-I compression shot flat, when handled correctly is excellent.

I sympathize with those frustrated by the 70D raw resolution limits, however the 70D AF does touchscreen focus pulls & faster than focus puller action tracking. 
So its AF chops with H264 and ALL-I compression make the 70D useful and even crucial tool. 
If one wants to shoot 1920 @ 2.35 14 bit raw, 5DMkII is still best $$$ option (around $1k).
If one can work with less than 1920 @ 2.35 raw via up res.(see my recent post page 58) , thats where the 70D can work.  720p raw or 1500 @ 2.35 raw, the 70D is continuous.
If one wants to shoot 2k and beyond raw, consider the BMD ursa mini 4k, super 35mm sensor, global shutter, 12 stops DR (same as 70D), 12 bit raw (negligible difference from 14bit raw), Da Vinci resolve enabling 444 442 flavours, up to 160 fps slo-mo, and with EF mount lens ($3k + battery option). 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: denkpause on August 03, 2015, 07:54:43 PM
I get really weird colors/lines when shooting long exposure stills:

http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4068/jba7nuyi_jpg.htm (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4068/jba7nuyi_jpg.htm)
http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4068/xvqql3mk_jpg.htm (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4068/xvqql3mk_jpg.htm)

Starts at around 2 seconds exposure, varies though. Sometimes it goes away after a few shots, sometimes not.
Anyone else having this problem? Not sure if it has been mentioned on the forum yet. Haven't found anything...

Btw thanks to all for the great work, especially nikfreak!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: camslide on August 03, 2015, 08:07:21 PM
Quote from: denkpause on August 03, 2015, 07:54:43 PM
Starts at around 2 seconds exposure, varies though. Sometimes it goes away after a few shots, sometimes not.
Anyone else having this problem? Not sure if it has been mentioned on the forum yet. Haven't found anything...
I had this problem twice (meaning 2 pictures). Not reproduceable for me.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: denkpause on August 04, 2015, 10:42:06 AM
It happens regularly to me. I could not figure out a clear reproducibility either though :-\ I only know that when I disable ML (swap card) it never happens.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: RAMAKANT on August 05, 2015, 09:26:16 AM
Dear all,
My 70D is on ML alpha6(May31) version till now. Appears to be OK but trust you will excuse some of my layman-questions - as below:

1. While shooting still photos, the focus-peaking does not appear in the LCD monitor PRIOR to shooting (while the click button is semi-pressed) at all. I get it in the LCD monitor AFTER the shooting of still image only (during the 2-sec review period). What is the wrong I am doing?
2. When I start shooting video, it runs green for a second or two, but then it turns red - failing to turn green any further. The SD card that I have is LEXAR 16GB 633X (95MB/Sec), Is it not good enough for video-shooting?
3. Regarding raw video capabilities, is alpha5 version better than alpha6 version (as mentioned by someone in this thread above)? If so, I would like to uninstall the May31 version & install the older version. Where exactly is it available? Or else, should I try July13 version?
4. Regarding HELP (specifically for 70D ML). All I have viewed till now are some youtube videos (courtesy TKF Productions) only. Is there a single location in the web, mentioning what all is the latest applicable?

Appreciate your kind reply, thanks in advance  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Antholight on August 05, 2015, 02:19:59 PM
Hey guys,

I can't find the maximum video resolution of the 70D in Raw mode. Someone could tell me Please ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: TechnoPilot on August 05, 2015, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: Antholight on August 05, 2015, 02:19:59 PM
Hey guys,

I can't find the maximum video resolution of the 70D in Raw mode. Someone could tell me Please ?
Hi Antholight, this is somewhat dependent on the card you are using (what speed it can sustain write if it is below the SD slot limit of 45MB/s) and the very dependent on the aspect ratio you are wanting to use.  The best bet is to experiment with your setup and see how long it will record before it starts skipping frames and stops recording.  There are many examples of what other people have managed to achieve is further back in this thread.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Antholight on August 05, 2015, 10:00:53 PM
Thanks for your reply. The matter is that I don't own any 70D yet at this moment. But this is rather important in my choice.  :-\
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 05, 2015, 10:06:10 PM
See http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg151662#msg151662
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Antholight on August 05, 2015, 10:39:05 PM
Thank you. Now it's clear  ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Marc_Petzold on August 05, 2015, 10:52:23 PM
@nikfreak

For the next update Plesse, can you put the focus features in the zipfile?

THX
Marc
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on August 06, 2015, 06:42:53 AM
I will re-add the focus features in next update but wanna see a detailed report like this or they might get removed again:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg151283#msg151283
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: can-on on August 06, 2015, 07:48:59 PM
Hi All,

Sd card and I buy, what questions will utilize speed Guide Write 20MB / sec or faster.
There could be clarified? 90 MB / sec read 80 MB / sec write is correct ??

Maximum speed at which card you would take advantage of the machine

Thanks for answer.


(111A)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a / 6th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 06, 2015, 10:10:26 PM
first post updated. read changelog.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a / 6th Aug)
Post by: camslide on August 07, 2015, 10:44:35 AM
Quote from: can-on on August 06, 2015, 07:48:59 PM
Hi All,

Sd card and I buy, what questions will utilize speed Guide Write 20MB / sec or faster.
There could be clarified? 90 MB / sec read 80 MB / sec write is correct ??

Maximum speed at which card you would take advantage of the machine

Thanks for answer.


(111A)
70D has a max write speed of 45MB/s. You should get a card able to provide this write speed.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a / 6th Aug)
Post by: can-on on August 07, 2015, 11:46:09 AM
Thanks for the information. :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a / 6th Aug)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on August 08, 2015, 04:10:02 AM
Manufactures are very vague with guaranteed write speed.  Most use phrases like "up to" rather than "guaranteed".
All that matters for raw video is write speed.  I would suggest 50 MB/s or faster, much faster if you can afford it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a / 6th Aug)
Post by: SKATERR on August 08, 2015, 01:01:05 PM
Hello!

before the version " 10th Mar .: Alpha4 " could choose resolutions : 1504 , 1536 , etc ..

Update to version " August 6th : Alpha -7a " and goes directly: 1280 to 1600. I can not select resolutions : 1504 , 1536, ...

Why?
You can download the version " 10th Mar .: Alpha4 " again ?

Thanks and sorry for my bad english!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a / 6th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 08, 2015, 01:16:41 PM
Cannot confirm!!! re-check please!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a / 6th Aug)
Post by: SKATERR on August 08, 2015, 01:41:09 PM
Hi!

Where is the link for download "10th Mar .: Alpha4 "?

Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a / 6th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 08, 2015, 01:57:10 PM
i have noolder links to share and even don't support older builds and furthermore wouldn't also like the thread being spammed about earlier build discussions. Again, listen what I say, you can change resolution like on older builds but not via the dropdown menu. use wheel or left / right buttons once resolution is highlighted to slightly change the resolution. The dropdown submenu only enables you to change resolution in bigger steps. Try it. You will get what I mean....
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 08, 2015, 02:26:17 PM
Updated 1st post
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: smuj70 on August 09, 2015, 11:26:45 AM
Hi, have been using ML on my 7D for a while and have found it reliable. Focus peaking and increased bit rates are part of my every day film needs. I have now installed 70D.111B on my 70d and wanted to ask a couple of Q's. In the video page of the settings there is no listing for the CBR/VBR functionality. Also there is no reference to shooing RAW. I can see the HDR settings but I wanted to experiment with the RAW video but it does not seem to be a part of this build.

So, CBR/VBR and RAW settings are missing. Or are they somewhere else?

Also, another irritation is that when in the ML settings I have to keep pressing buttons all the time. If I don't press a button for more than a second it just switches back to live view. This does not happen on the 7D.

I was an early adopter of the 70D in the UK so assume it is one of the first builds. I have searched for Canon firmware updates but it seems they have forgotten about improving the 70D so am still on 1.1.1 as I have found nothing else.

Thanks for any help.

Smuj70
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on August 09, 2015, 06:34:54 PM
      @smuj70

   Raw Functions should be there, they are on mine. Check that you have the Module Turned On.

You should also read " What's not working " @ the bottom of the " Change Log " in the " 1st Post "
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: smuj70 on August 09, 2015, 08:41:22 PM
Thanks. Newbie and had not spotted the 'not working' list. I can now see that there are already reported menu issues and the bit rate setting are missing. Bit rate was the main reason for loading it on the 70d so I guess that will return at some point in the future. Hope so. Still cant find RAW video function, not sure what you meant by the module being on.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 09, 2015, 08:44:26 PM
Module tab. You have to enable and load modules to make RAW/MLV work.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on August 10, 2015, 05:15:57 AM
Good evening!

I just installed Alpha 7a2, and set the FPS Override to 6FPS.  The whole video has vertical banding, as demonstrated in the below screen shot.  I shot two more videos; one at 3FPS and another with a different lens.  All three have the same vertical banding.  Any ideas? 

Thanks!!

(http://s10.postimg.org/hjiryj2k9/Screen_Shot_2015_08_09_at_10_58_49_PM.png)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 10, 2015, 08:27:39 AM
@Johnny: Did his happen on earlier builds or is this your first time trying FPS override feature?

@All: Can anyone using 70D.111A confirm the issue?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: X-STATE on August 10, 2015, 08:39:18 AM
@nikfreak:I tried 22 fps
I did not have these bands
but i use 6th August: Alpha-7a
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: Frarike on August 10, 2015, 10:47:06 AM
I tried 6 (from 25) and had no banding.

Also this message "1x, setting up from 800,1600" wouldn't disappear.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 10, 2015, 11:03:00 AM
Quote from: Frarike on August 10, 2015, 10:47:06 AM
I tried 6 (from 25) and had no banding.

Also this message "1x, setting up from 800,1600" wouldn't disappear.

Ok that means it appears only on 70D.111B. Regarding the message "1x, setting up from 800,1600" that's a leftback from my tests. Forgot to exclude it and will be removed in next update. Actually it simply disturbs but has no influence... Guess I have to wait some days until proper requested reports for 7a2 appear (read 1st post)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: X-STATE on August 10, 2015, 12:21:52 PM
@nikfreak: then recording video in MLV crop marks not displayed.
Is it possible to fix it?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 10, 2015, 12:25:09 PM
Movie tab -> RAW video (MLV) -> Global Draw = ON?
Are other overlays visible?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on August 10, 2015, 03:38:04 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on August 10, 2015, 08:27:39 AM
@Johnny: Did his happen on earlier builds or is this your first time trying FPS override feature?

@All: Can anyone using 70D.111A confirm the issue?

@nikfreak:  This is my first time trying FPS Override feature on the 70D, so I hadn't tried it on earlier builds.  Please let me know if there is any other feedback / testing I can give in regards to this.  Thanks!!

Oh, I also had the test message with the LV Display Size, Timer A Orig, Timer B Orig.

Cheers!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: MattNoir on August 10, 2015, 06:13:25 PM
For everyone guessing best card for 70D, I used this comparision: http://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/canon-70d/fastest-sd-cards/
:)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: X-STATE on August 10, 2015, 08:52:58 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on August 10, 2015, 12:25:09 PM
Movie tab -> RAW video (MLV) -> Global Draw = ON?
Are other overlays visible?
thx
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 10, 2015, 11:18:01 PM
https://vimeo.com/135911744

Thanks for the update, @nikfreak and there's definitely some progress made.  :D

Will report back asap regarding vertical banding, if any.

*updates*

https://vimeo.com/135914679
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on August 10, 2015, 11:25:18 PM
                @nikfreak

        Just tried 6FPS from 24 (1920/24All-I) & Did get Vert' Streaks - But only perceptible on a Frame by Frame view & even then Hard to see.

Subject matter may make a Diff'.

        Also ~ The Level is functioning Quite Nicely - No Freezes.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on August 10, 2015, 11:42:18 PM
@OlRivrRat:  The vertical banding seems to be most prevalent in the dark areas of high contrast scenes.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: FluidMovementMovies on August 11, 2015, 12:38:23 AM
Hi DeafEyeJedi, are you using Cinestyle? I got vertical banding in dark areas only with this picture profile, but only in normal video mode (no matter if it's high compression or All-I). Try to set the ISO at 160 and its multiples, because it's the native ISO and is not as noisy as ISO 100 (sounds weird but it's true). Also, the lines aren't visible if you don't underexpose too much.

I can't try it myself because I don't have the camera with me at the time, but soon I will install ML on it and start reporting my finds.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 11, 2015, 12:40:00 AM
So I should run another test without using CineStyle and only use ISO 160, correct?

However, to my knowledge it shouldn't matter which picture profile I'm using since its recorded in MLV RAW -- so how could that be a factor?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: FluidMovementMovies on August 11, 2015, 12:44:49 AM
Yes, test it again using the in-camera neutral profile (0,-4,-2, 0). I think you can use any ISO with this picture profile, but if you have the time you can test both 100 and 160.

I don't know but I only get vertical banding with CineStyle. I have never used ML RAW video, but in photo mode, if you shoot RAW + JPEG both pics are identical because they are made with the same picture profile. Maybe this happens too in video mode and MLV. Another thing I've noticed is that if you are in photo mode and change your picture profile, it also changes in video mode, and viceversa. This sets the camera to only use one profile for everything, (probably) including RAW video. My old 1100D and all the other Canon DSLRs that I've used had independent picture profiles for video and photo mode.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 11, 2015, 12:48:13 AM
There's no (or shouldn't be any) differences in between CineStyle and Neutral profiles (both @ the usual 0, -4, -2, 0 respectively) but will go ahead and do so.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: FluidMovementMovies on August 11, 2015, 12:53:10 AM
I was editing my first post while you replied because I hadn't seen your question  :-[  Sorry, my bad. Now your question is answered in my first post.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on August 11, 2015, 02:59:02 AM
      @DeafEyeJedi

   " There's no (or shouldn't be any) differences in between CineStyle and Neutral profiles "

T'is incorrect ~ CineStyle is a Custom Profile that I believe uses Neutral as its Basis. Check this out ~

https://vimeo.com/23087976

   More about it here ~

http://www.technicolor.com/en/solutions-services/cinestyle-download/cinestyle-faq
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 11, 2015, 03:44:18 AM
Actually I'm speaking of how neither would nor shouldn't play a role with the VB effects on certain ISO's -- not the profiles themselves. Plus the video you posted is directly for h264 shooting, not MLV RAW.

Anyway, here's Take 2:

https://vimeo.com/135930706

Basically it seems that every FPS settings you choose it would correspond properly other than being off by milliseconds (see clip) but this is huge jump in progress regarding FPS Override and I'm happy with how Slo-Mo's are coming together so far other than the VB occurring during under cranking (about 6 fps or lower) during MLV RAW recording BUT then I found something odd when shooting two same scenes with same settings and the one with more light coming through ( Iris @ 2.8 ) which shows no VB but when close it down ( Iris @ 8 ) then VB becomes apparent, strange?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 11, 2015, 06:40:04 AM
Very good informations so far. May I ask you guys to test and report the re-enabled focus features, too?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: lojzik on August 11, 2015, 09:29:01 AM
Trap focus
noLV
- Hold AF button - mostly OK *)
- continuous - mostly OK *) , impossible to unlock with 2 seconds shutter halfway, I have use switch off camera. Sometimes this mode is not started immediately, but after second shutter use

*) sometimes, if I move object through focus distance, camera indicates focus (beep), but photo is not taken.

LV
- I don't know, how to use it. No focus and photo is taken, continuous freezes buttons like noLV
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: Frarike on August 11, 2015, 12:41:04 PM
Sorry this is a problem with .111A

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: tomtom91 on August 11, 2015, 01:21:27 PM
Hello everyone,
I have a problem with sound and format " MLV " .
I have no problem with the first created file, but with others I always the error "Audio failed to stop, state 4" .
This makes it impossible to export MLRawViewer .

I dont have this problem if i restart my 70D.

I wanted to take the opportunity to thank for this job !!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 11, 2015, 01:50:18 PM
posting oversized pictures won't help in resolving the issue. A crop of the image would be perfect enough. ALso w/o writing some text and describing the problem I can't help. Remember I stated it several times: I don't record any movies so you have to provide the info step by step for me to reproduce.

@Frarike: Do you have this when using fps override only or always?
@lojzik: can you detail your problems with focus features. I can't follow you but want to reproduce step by step...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 11, 2015, 02:21:13 PM
@tomtom91: You may be using an older version. Use latest and retry.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: tomtom91 on August 11, 2015, 02:30:35 PM
@ Walter Schulz :

I use the last version "Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug"
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 11, 2015, 02:35:03 PM
You are sure you replaced Autoexec.bin?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: tomtom91 on August 11, 2015, 03:28:01 PM
Yes, I always do a clean install
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 11, 2015, 03:36:27 PM
Thanks, tomtom91!

@nikfreak: Issue 2255 reincarnated? https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2255/mlv_sound-working-only-on-the-first-video
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: lojzik on August 11, 2015, 03:46:43 PM
randomly this variants
1. Trap focus -> continuous -> set -> HlfShutter -> led permanently shines -> {trap focus ok}
2. Trap focus -> continuous -> set -> HlfShutter -> short led blink -> {no trap focus} -> HlfShutter -> led permanently shines -> {trap focus ok}
and then
{trap focus ok} -> shutter halfway (http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/userguide#trap_focus) -> {nothing, trap focus continues}

randomly problem with photos taking on focus:
{trap focus / both variants) -> (slow focus changing or object position changing)-> {focus taken - beep} -> {nothing, no photo}

edit:
problem with camera start with active trap focus
1. (camera on with trap focus continuous) -> (longer waiting) -> press trash button -> {nothing, only blink} -> menu button -> {nothing, only blink} -> menu button -> canon menu
2. (camera on with trap focus continuous) -> (longer waiting) -> press trash button -> {nothing, only blink} -> menu button -> {nothing, only blink} -> longer waiting -> menu button -> {nothing, only blink} -> menu button -> canon menu

.. canon menu -> trash button -> nothing -> menu button -> canon menu left -> trash button -> ML menu
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 11, 2015, 04:06:16 PM
Walter, thanks for the hint, I'll check and it might help but atm I remember we had reports of problematic sound recording. Check posts after this comment:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg150213#msg150213

mlv_snd is atm not a high priority on my todo list. Other bugs are keeping me away of dealing with that additional issue. Got enough headaches due to fps and dualiso  :P

@lojzik: thanx for your report.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: Frarike on August 11, 2015, 06:20:43 PM
h.264 + FPS = No banding
MLV + No FPS = No banding (with sound enabled)
MLV + FPS = Banding (with sound enabled)
Raw + FPS = Banding (without sound enabled)

Shot as 24 and over-ridden to 6.

Doubt the sound has anything to do with it but anyway.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 11, 2015, 07:28:36 PM
ok thanx for providing the necessary info. It was unclear to me if you used fps override.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 11, 2015, 07:56:21 PM
https://vimeo.com/135998102

https://vimeo.com/135998099

Also updated info in this post of mine (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg152519#msg152519mine) Reply #1553.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on August 11, 2015, 08:05:29 PM
@Nikfreak - A question for you, is there any chance we can get the "Movie Record Key" button assign functionality into the next ML build for the 70D?  I'd like to wire in the remote record button on my Tilta Wooden Grip Handle to trigger the record start/stop function of the 70D without hacking into the body and this seems like the best way I've seen, by assigning it to the half shutter press and some very basic wiring to the remote plug on the camera.  Here is the link to the article that I found referencing this function http://www.diyphotography.net/dslr-rig-video-remote-record-button/
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 11, 2015, 08:23:17 PM
@Technopilot: I will enable the button assignment functionality on next update. It's already commited (https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/branch/70D-merge-finalize2) but needs a merge. It will then be up to you to test it. But I guess (read: no promise) that it will work.

@DeafEyeJedi: as always thanx for taking time and providing those vids. I really appreciate it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on August 11, 2015, 08:24:34 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on August 11, 2015, 08:23:17 PM
@Technopilot: I will enable the button assignment functionality on next update. It's already commited (https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/branch/70D-merge-finalize2) but needs a merge. It will then be up to you to test it. But I guess (read: no promise) that it will work.

@DeafEyeJedi: as always thanx for taking time and providing those vids. I really appreciate it.
@nikfreak - I'll test on next update then and confirm.  Thanks!
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 11, 2015, 09:04:19 PM
No problem, @nikfreak!

Another side note that may be worth pointing out is the fact that whenever I shoot MLV (with & without FPS Override) and it would create a folder inside the memory card and place the MLV inside after each recording. Is this new?

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/384/20305785638_99785f83af_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wWmsCo)

It would cause confusing and hiccups when exporting/rendering with MLVFS and I solved the issue by manually taking the MLV's out from each created folder which I thought it was odd or was this done intentionally for a reason that I may not be aware of?

Not a big deal since it's a easy workaround.

*update*

For those who are curious from @dmilligan's latest update with MLVFS now supports slo-mo files to be rescaled properly within the app itself. Read here @ Reply #699! (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.msg152511#msg152511%20Read%20here!)

@Danne's cr2hdr-r was already capable of rescaling nicely for slo-mo files as well.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 12, 2015, 08:53:23 AM
@X-STATE: I couldn't respond to your PM because it says 'users mailbox is full' -- so empty/delete to make room and I'll try responding later.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: Canniballissimo on August 12, 2015, 11:43:04 AM
Answer, please. I have included only the modules mlv_rec and mlv_snd, enable MLV Sound on the Audio-tab, enable RAW Video (MLV) on the Movie-tab, but  where the sound is written when shooting video? The MLV unpacked I only see DNG-files
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: X-STATE on August 12, 2015, 12:46:04 PM
@ DeafEyeJedi :  done  :)
I am waiting for your messages  ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: jpfazendeiro on August 12, 2015, 09:24:44 PM
First of all let me congratulate and thank everyone for taking the time to be involved in this project. It's clear that there is a lot of us that been waiting for this long time now (some more patient than others).

The functions I've used so far seem to be working OK

I'd would just like to state, I dunno if anyone else has noticed, even if the shutter number doesn't match has seen on Live View on Pal (which has been discussed already), when changing settings to NTSC 720p 60fps i haven't been able to get the proper shutter.
For 60fps im getting 125 on top LCD and 100 on LV when it should the correct shutter should be 120, am i right?
For 30fps im getting 60 on top LCD and 50 on LV
My question is which is the real number the camera is takin while recording ML?

My Raw experiences have been inside only with low light, but the results are looking promissing, even though there are a few pink pixels all around, yesterday i found an option on MLRawViewer which deleted them, so I'm still learning the process.

I was actually thinking of buying a ultra fast card like 600x or 2000x, but after going through almost all posts here i was really sad when realized that the SD interface has 45MB limitation, correct? Does anybody know if its possible to solve this limitation, through firmware or "magic"?  :P

I was really looking forward for Raw Slow Mo's, i could live with 720p, but less than that, kind of takes the whole point out of it. Anyhow, clean HDMI is looking a good option, has anyone tried?

Waiting on the sound options when ready :)

Thanks again

70D.111A
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 13, 2015, 10:10:23 PM
Regarding audio bug reported by @tomtom91:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg152532#msg152532

Next update will include the fix (props @walter for the hint) and audio meters + remote shot will work, too  :P
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on August 14, 2015, 04:28:03 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on August 13, 2015, 10:10:23 PM
Regarding audio bug reported by @tomtom91:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg152532#msg152532

Next update will include the fix (props @walter for the hint) and audio meters + remote shot will work, too  [emoji14]
YAY!!! So awesome to hear you have the audio meters functional Nikfreak!  Great work!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7a2 / 8th Aug)
Post by: Marc_Petzold on August 14, 2015, 10:10:04 PM
@nikfreak

Ok Thanks you have re-add the Focus Feature for  7a.  And when comes the 7b. Is it difficult or  gives there are some  trouble.

THX
Marc

Ok sorry I understand it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 15, 2015, 02:12:31 AM
new build is up! Read 1st post and changelog.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: chrisfrancia on August 15, 2015, 06:30:01 AM
Upgraded from Alpha5b to Alpha7b(ICEMAN).

New build is fantastic!!! On the look out for bugs, will post as I test things in new posts. So far,

1. Change log items
-Audio Meters: OK
-Movie Crop: OK
-Zoom to AF Point: OK
-Moving Focus Box: OK
-REC Key: OK
-Audio Remote Shot: OK

2. Overlays
-Zebras: OK
-Focus Peak: OK
-Magic Zoom: OK
-Crop Marks: OK
-Spot Meter: OK (Also moves with autofocus touch now :) )
-False Color: OK (Although I am not an expert on how some of these should look they look as though I believe they should)
-Histogram: OK
-Waveform: OK
-Vectorscope: OK


3. Improvements over old builds
When pressing Q to bring up the canon menu while on the ML view the Q menu seems much more stable (doesnt flash out and stuff)


4. Bugs
-Pressing zoom in on canon menu, not ML view, brings up some debug window or something that sometimes says "saving config" at bottom, turning off camera gets rid of it

-Battery indicator not working, also no percent shown only icon

-Can't move spotmeter, magic zoom point while in manual focus on lens

-While recording RAW video pressing menu button causes camera to black screen, then crash, didn't have to remove battery just restarted, recording lost. Pretty much a non issue since once you know about it you just dont hit it, not really a reason to/you arent usually able to, but, figured i'd mention it since i accidentally did it.

-Trap Focus: Works when using in viewfinder as intended, does not appear to be working in live view, could be user error

-Auto Exposure Module: Does not seem to change the exposure when in live view, it shows the corrected exposure av/tv/iso but once you let go of the half shutter it goes back to what it was. In viewfinder this does not happen. I actually like the live view way better. Could be I needed to wait longer for it to lock in and change however in live view it was changing and staying changed immediately.


I want to end my post again by saying thank you, this build is a fairly significant step up! I will do as much testing as I can this weekend. Thanks for such a nice weekend surprise!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on August 15, 2015, 06:41:22 AM
                @nikfreak

        What was Non-Working about Gradual Exposure ~ Seemed to be doing just fine for me ~ Maybe I just didn't know what it was supposed to do ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 15, 2015, 11:00:14 AM
@chrisfrancia: thanx for your detailed report. These kind of posts I like to see.

@OlRivrRat: Gradual exposure gets automatically removed together with HDR video once CONFIG_FRAME_ISO is undefined. We might enable GE at a later time. But I don't remember anyone explicitly confirming HDR video as working and my quick test showed the same too.

@All: can you recheck the vertical banding reported with earlier 7a2 build please?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: X-STATE on August 15, 2015, 03:36:40 PM
-Audio Meters: OK
-Audio Reс - ok don't crash
-REC Key: OK
-Zebras: OK
-Crop Marks RAW/MLV: OK
-Histogram: OK
-ETTR: OK
-Rec RAW video : OK
-Movie Crop: OK  but unfortunately, we can not assign a hot key on/off. It would be very comfortable.
-Movie Crop: follow AF not working, the only way to focus automatically half-press
-Rec MLV video : always drops arbitrary 1 frame. Is no such problem in RAW mode
-Rec MLV video : no alternatives between 1920 and 1600, strange... but it is possible in RAW mode
-Rec RAW video : afte convert in raw2cdng.1.7.4 ACR identifies *.dng file like Canon 6D
-Rec MLV video : afte convert in raw2cdng.1.7.4 ACR identifies *.dng file like Canon 70D
-Dual iso foto mode: OK
-Dual iso video mode: so sad :(
-FPS-Override 60p MVL: OK but drops 1 frame
-FPS-Override 60p RAW: OK


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: george964 on August 15, 2015, 04:13:44 PM
Hi everyone!
How to open the EOS 70D DNG Silent Picture?
almost tried everything.
Adobe raw does not open, an error..., before now zero  problem with EOS 600D 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 15, 2015, 05:24:33 PM
ok i'm in. iceman installed, the "a" version worked fine first time.  but i seem to be a dope, the feature i'm trying to find isn't on the menu.  how do you get audio meters to show in movie mode?  i looked in the ml/canon menus and don't see it.  checked the modules and don't see one to install for levels?

i don't seem to have an audio tab in the menus at all? is this one accessable in the 70d like in the 60d?

(http://www.minidv2dvd.com/temp/audio.png)



thx
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on August 15, 2015, 06:43:09 PM
                @NikFreak

         Just tried 6FPS from 24 (1920/24All-I) & - Streaks are there - Possibly worse. Sorry.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on August 15, 2015, 08:05:29 PM
Unfortunately, vertical banding still exists.

1280/60/IPB - ML set at 6FPS, all other ML settings at default.

(http://s11.postimg.org/4eih7awfn/70_D_111_B_7b_6_FPS.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: PrasadVedvikhyat on August 15, 2015, 08:15:21 PM
@nikfreak - First of all, thank you so much for your amazing work.

I am a newbie and I was testing the alpha 7a build. It worked great. But had one issue. While recording MLV, I had set aspect ratio 2.35:1, but it used to change to full screen while recording. But the recorded video had the right aspect ratio. It was difficult to compose the frame due to this. ( Global draw was ON and cropmarks ON)

Then I clean intstalled the latest Iceman build, set the global draw mode ON and movie crop mode ON and It shows the correct aspect ratio while recording. But now both auto focus and touch focus don't work while shooting MLV. If I turn movie crop mode OFF then the aspect ratio changes to full screen and auto focus starts to work again. But as soon as I touch the screen to focus, the crop mark appear on the screen, camera focuses where i touched on the screen and the camera crashes immediately. Err 70

I tried searching forums but that didn't help. Sorry for bothering you. And thanks once again.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 15, 2015, 08:38:31 PM
@OlRivrRat and @JohnyG_71: thanx for testing banding again. Not that I had incorparated a fix I just wanted to be rest assured it happens again. Now I ofc searched around the forums but do we suffer from the linked issue or is it unrelated in your opinion:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9564.msg91691#msg91691

Could you take some time and read through above link?

@PrasadVedvikhyat: thanx for letting me know. will look after it
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: joanmsoriano on August 15, 2015, 08:56:16 PM
Hi

last month i posted that my camera wasn´t booting, the led was black and rear buttones doesn´t work

today i tested the Portable binary test (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14732.0) and it works, it shows me the info on the LCD, but if i put an sd card with or without ML the camera doesn´t boot

so the proble in my camera must be the ML firmware? how can i unninstall it if i can´t acces de menu settings?

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzaClCV0bEEraEEtTmh1Z1BtSUk (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzaClCV0bEEraEEtTmh1Z1BtSUk)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 15, 2015, 09:01:34 PM
Does cam start without card inserted? Remove battery and insert battery without card and close doors.
If it starts: Copy extracted nightly build contents to card.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: joanmsoriano on August 15, 2015, 09:07:33 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on August 15, 2015, 09:01:34 PM
Does cam start without card inserted? Remove battery and insert battery without card and close doors.
If it starts: Copy extracted nightly build contents to card.
no, it´s the same, only starts the superior info
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 15, 2015, 09:10:36 PM
"Superior info"?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: joanmsoriano on August 15, 2015, 09:15:50 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on August 15, 2015, 09:10:36 PM
"Superior info"?
LCD panel
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 15, 2015, 09:27:17 PM
Not getting what you are trying to say. When you startup cam without card: Does the cam wake up and can you access Canon's menu?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: joanmsoriano on August 15, 2015, 09:41:58 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on August 15, 2015, 09:27:17 PM
Not getting what you are trying to say. When you startup cam without card: Does the cam wake up and can you access Canon's menu?
the cam always do the same (with card and Ml, with card and no Ml, without card). it wake up but only works the led panel. the led screen doesn´t work so i can´t acces canon´s menu, shutter neither works, sd card light turn on and keeps that way all the time until i remove battery. (i try changing batteries, i try different sd cards)

if i install other ML version on SD card, the led screen works with the wrong ML message

today i  tested the Portable binary test and the led screen works with it, i attached the pic

so i think the problem might be the ML with the firmware, but i don´t know how to unninstall ML without  Canon's menu

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: joanmsoriano on August 15, 2015, 09:54:39 PM
could someone with a 70d B version send me a zip with all the files with bin from your camera to put them in my sd card and se if my camera works?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 15, 2015, 09:56:31 PM
Starting in C mode without lens attached doesn't work either I suppose?
Do you have those ROM files stored somewhere?

And your files: Just delete ML directory and Autoexec.bin and copy extracted nightly build contents to card. It won't help ...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 15, 2015, 09:59:17 PM
i had a bad battery that would produce the same results in my 60d.  screens turned on but nothing displayed and the led for the sd card would stay lit all the time.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on August 15, 2015, 10:03:37 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on August 15, 2015, 08:38:31 PM
@OlRivrRat and @JohnyG_71: thanx for testing banding again. Not that I had incorparated a fix I just wanted to be rest assured it happens again. Now I ofc searched around the forums but do we suffer from the linked issue or is it unrelated in your opinion:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9564.msg91691#msg91691

Could you take some time and read through above link?

@nikfreak:

A lot of the sample links are dead now, but after reading through a lot of it, and making my best intuitive guess based on what I've read, I would say that what I'm seeing here is unrelated to what is posted in that thread.

Please let me know if there is any specific testing or information I can provide to assist with finding a fix for this one.

Cheers!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 15, 2015, 10:21:51 PM
Ok, JohnnyG_71, thanx for taking time. Got an additional idea but I guess I need to come up with that later after having talked to a1ex.

@everybody: It has now twice (1 (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg152739#msg152739) / 2 (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg152757#msg152757)) been reported that there is a bug with AF in movie crop mode. Took me now about an hour to find out that this is default behaviour. Fixed AF mode and fixed at center. Please read your canon manual regarding digital zoom:

Quote
....the camera will focus with [FlexiZone - Single] (fixed at center).

There's some hint from chrisfrancia (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg152723#msg152723) Don't press Canon menu button while raw recording!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: X-STATE on August 15, 2015, 10:28:31 PM
@nikfreak
sorry
I do not use this function before
sorry about your time spent in the shuffle
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: george964 on August 15, 2015, 11:25:45 PM
Adobe raw can not open DNG Silent Picture , error...
almost tried everything ,
magiclantern-Nightly.2015Aug08.70D111A
magiclantern-Nightly.2015Aug15.70D111A
EOS 70D
same situation on convertion  from mlv. to dng
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: george964 on August 15, 2015, 11:31:49 PM
People how can I upload this DNG files for someone to test?
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 15, 2015, 11:32:47 PM
Maybe upload onto Dropbox it and share the link to it's Folder?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 15, 2015, 11:51:08 PM
@george964 any filesharing site.  do you have a m.s. hotmail with a onedrive?  mega account?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: george964 on August 15, 2015, 11:53:22 PM
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lumkpz35177hjgm/AADj7ggfdzltCXtWIpdBxb9ua?dl=0
here is a link
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 16, 2015, 12:10:44 AM
@george  they are 128x84 pixels.  vegas can read them.  here's them rendered.

www.minidv2dvd.com/temp/dng.avi (http://www.minidv2dvd.com/temp/dng.avi)

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: george964 on August 16, 2015, 12:15:06 AM
they are full resolution silent pictures
and what's the problem?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 16, 2015, 12:17:09 AM
@george - photoshop cc dng can't read them here either.  both mediainfo and vegas pro claim they are 128x84.  possibly they are just thumbnails in messed up files.  but vegas accepts them as valid input at that tiny size.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 16, 2015, 12:21:44 AM
can you put the originals before conversion to dng in the file sharing site?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 16, 2015, 12:25:15 AM
Yes need the originals... btw which converter did you use that spit out these DNG's from FRSP in 70D?

*Off-Topic*

Just downloaded the DNG's and opened in PS CC just fine. What exactly is your problem on your end, @george964?

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/638/20418098790_f3619e4ba5_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/x7h6q3)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: george964 on August 16, 2015, 12:35:14 AM
This files are originals directly from the camera
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 16, 2015, 12:36:51 AM
photoshop cc on a pc will not open the dng's.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: george964 on August 16, 2015, 12:41:30 AM
DeafEyeJedi  I did not think that this is a problem in my software, I seamlessly open DNG from EOS 600d silent pictures
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on August 16, 2015, 12:48:58 AM
Quote from: george964 on August 15, 2015, 11:25:45 PM
Adobe raw can not open DNG Silent Picture , error...
almost tried everything ,
magiclantern-Nightly.2015Aug08.70D111A
magiclantern-Nightly.2015Aug15.70D111A
EOS 70D
same situation on convertion  from mlv. to dng


My apologies for not being able to give more detail at this time, but this is what I found in the time I had...

Photoshop 2014 / Camera RAW 9.1.1 - "Unable to read the full size image" "There was an error parsing the file"
Photoshop 2015 / Camera RAW 9.1.1 - "Unable to read the full size image" "There was an error parsing the file"
Lightroom CC (a.k.a. 6) / Camera RAW 9.1.1 - "The file appears to be unsupported or damaged"
Lightroom 5.7 / Camera RAW 8.7.1 - *Works Perfectly*

Looks to be a problem with Camera RAW 9 opening DNGs from the 70D.  Wasn't this addressed a couple other times back through this thread?  I can't remember and don't have time to search now, but I thought there was an issue with the DNG files coming out of the 70D and the latest Adobe versions not working correctly.  I thought someone mentioned using a RAW editor and changing the camera model metadata in the file from 70D to 60D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: george964 on August 16, 2015, 12:57:36 AM
JohnnyG_71  you are right I read this error messages too..
I'm going to try Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.7
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 16, 2015, 01:12:34 AM
Guys I think you just need to update the cr2hdr binary to be able to export 70D files properly...

Read first post of this thread.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: george964 on August 16, 2015, 01:25:51 AM
please write link what you mean
I need to solve this problem, already tired, seeking a way out 2 days
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 16, 2015, 01:42:42 AM
the dng files don't work in vegas pro 13 either. it would be nice if they did!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b &quot;ICEMAN&quot; / 15th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 16, 2015, 01:44:45 AM
Let's please try and keep this thread on topic.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 16, 2015, 01:53:42 AM
WTF someone with a problem with the files created by the ml 70d firmware can't get help here???  what is more on topic than that?  and where are they supposed to go for help if not here?  snottiest forum i've run across in ages.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: dmilligan on August 16, 2015, 03:06:10 AM
@aedipuss
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#not_losing

@DeafEyeJedi
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on August 16, 2015, 01:12:34 AM
Guys I think you just need to update the cr2hdr binary to be able to export 70D files properly...
These guys are not talking about anything that has anything to do with dual ISO.

@all
It has been said over and over again in this thread and elsewhere that ACR has an issue with DNGs created by ML and various ML related tools for the 70D. Adobe has done something strange with the 70D and ACR. DNGs that are otherwise perfectly valid, will not open in ACR because some particular metadata is not what ACR is expecting it to be for the 70D. ML and 'offical' ML tools all use some old DNG writing code ported from chdk (chdk_dng.c). This code is not very good and needs to be replaced (it is the source of this issue and several others (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7139.msg152668#msg152668)). When I wrote MLVFS, I tried to pay careful attention to getting DNG metadata correct and I complete re-wrote DNG writing code. I have taken the code I wrote for this and used it to replace the old chdk_dng.c. I have submitted a pull request (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/603/dng-module-wip) for this, but it has not been merged yet. I have not had any reported issues of 70D DNGs from MLVFS not working, so the DNGs produced from this PR should also work I suppose, they should be pretty much the same in terms of metadata (I have not tested it as don't have a 70D, feel free to test it yourself, you'll have to merge the 70D PR branch with the DNG PR branch).

If you have existing 70D DNGs that you want to open with ACR, use exiftool to change the metadata (the easiest thing to change is make the camera model something else like 60D, though you could also figure out what other metadata is causing the problem and fix that).

@nikfreak
You should probably put something about this in the OP, because it keeps getting asked a lot, but the solutions gets lost in the noise.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 16, 2015, 04:43:36 AM
@dmilligan & @All:

Well that's my fault then and guess what I meant was the exiftool binary -- either way it still works fine on my end with 70D FRSP DNG's without having the need to change the metadata as far as I'm concerned... got caught up within myself typing on this iPhone with the Tapatalk app.

As @dmilligan mentioned, I'm afraid @nikfreak did previously point this out on more than one occasion and also is there a specific reason why if I open FRSP DNG's directly from 70D.111B just perfectly fine with ACR in PS, AE and even works well in LR5 as well?

So I apologize for causing all the so called noise when simply was trying to help others.

@nikfreak I'm going to be off work for the next few days and should get a full report to you soon regarding 'Iceman' & Thanks again for the update!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on August 16, 2015, 06:31:25 AM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on August 16, 2015, 04:43:36 AM
As @dmilligan mentioned, I'm afraid @nikfreak did previously point this out on more than one occasion and is there a specific reason why if I open FRSP DNG's directly from 70D.111B just perfectly fine within ACR in PS, AE and even works well in LR5 as well.

@DeafEyeJedi:  What version of ACR do you have installed?  LR & PS both use the ACR engine for decoding the RAW files.  The reason I ask is, you specifically stated you're using LR5.  LR5 uses ACR8.  I only noticed the issue with the ACR9 engine, which is what LR6(CC) & PS 2014/2015 uses.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 16, 2015, 06:49:12 AM
Well I think that may be the culprit because I'm afraid I remember seeing someone post similar issues in this particular THREAD specifically with ACR9 -- I've been tempted to update it but I always stick with the old saying...

"Don't fix what's not broken!" so maybe that could be the issue?

Perhaps try downgrading to ACR8 and report back.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on August 16, 2015, 07:06:11 AM
                  @george964

        The Files open fine for Me as well ~ APSCS5 + ACR6.7.1.340
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: camslide on August 16, 2015, 09:56:14 AM
I have a question regarding Silent Picture + Audio Remote. My goal is to trigger my diy timelapse slider with sound as it is easy, cheap and there is no electrical connection to the camera. Tried the audio remote feature yesterday and it takes silent pictures. But when I took the first picture, the screen stays black and I can't take another picture. Is there a workaround to get audio remote working on the next picture too?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on August 16, 2015, 07:11:48 PM
      @CamSlide

   Not thinking about what Exp'Mode I was in I started a test in "P" & it was working Just Fine but kept Showing a Mess' that I needed to be in "Man" - So I switched to "Man" & got the same results that you got -
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: rOOmUSh on August 16, 2015, 07:24:26 PM
@all

In purpose to open the DNGs in ACR 9.1+ you need to change the UniqueCameraModel parameter using the exiftool by choosing the Exiftool direct option
and entering this string in the box -Exif:UniqueCameraModel="Canon EOS 60D"

(http://4put.ru/pictures/max/1110/3410998.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 16, 2015, 07:32:57 PM
Recommended mode for FRSP is manual mode (not P, Av Tv..) and also manual ISO (not AutoISO). Now we should narrow it down if it's a general bug or only 70D specific:

@camslide: Your image review settings aren't set to "Hold". Due to that you get a black screen after timer (2sec, 4sec..). i am unsure if anyone ever tried what you did but normally frsp can be used with intervalometer for shooting timelapse.

I can't retry on another cam now but it looks to me that audio remote shot + frsp can't work together in the way you want to use it. It may be used to trigger it once but that's all.

Now Walter can you check on your cam and confirm?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 16, 2015, 07:53:06 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on August 16, 2015, 07:32:57 PMNow Walter can you check on your cam and confirm?

I would like to but I only own 650D and 7D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 16, 2015, 07:58:25 PM
Ok maybe another user with another cam having audio remote shots enabled (e.g. 6D, 5D3..) could check plz?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on August 16, 2015, 08:00:59 PM
      @NikFreak

   Hmmmm - FRSP seems to work just fine in P, AV, TV & With Audio Remote - What's up with that?

& - Speaking of Auto ISO, Sure wish it could be disabled, any way you might look in to that @ the After Party?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 16, 2015, 08:08:55 PM
@OlRivrRat: Cannot confirm with fullres silent pcitures. I am getting the warning in menu + when trying to use frsp that "manual mode is required". How sure are we that we talk about the same thing? I tested "simple" option and that seems to work with audio remote shot...

regarding autoISO I guess you simply switch to M mode and dial in a desired ISO. That's how it is done, right? I really guess we are not talking about same thing now!

Might ofc be a bug with 70D.111B but I am confused atm.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: camslide on August 16, 2015, 09:38:32 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on August 16, 2015, 07:32:57 PM
@camslide: Your image review settings aren't set to "Hold". Due to that you get a black screen after timer (2sec, 4sec..). i am unsure if anyone ever tried what you did but normally frsp can be used with intervalometer for shooting timelapse.

I can't retry on another cam now but it looks to me that audio remote shot + frsp can't work together in the way you want to use it. It may be used to trigger it once but that's all.
I just checked simple mode and can confirm it working. Unfortunately FRSP "freezes" in review mode until I press the shutter half way. Seems like I have to trigger it "the old way" :-(
Tried FRSP in AV, TV AND P but get the message "Manual (M) mode ist required".
EDIT: Using internal intervalometer works with FRSP, but when I do longer timelapse shots, I would fear getting both timers(slider and camera) out of sync.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 16, 2015, 10:52:49 PM
@camslide: there's "powersave in Liveview" which might be the root cause. Unfortuantely I cannot help you atm as there's no easy way of disabling that feature w/o breaking the silent.mo module. You would have to wait until we get merged into the nightlies officially. Afterwards you are free to create a new "enhancement" ticket on bitbucket. In your case you would want to have some kind of "turn off powersaving" option inbuilt into the silent.mo module! But I am unsre if your use case would ever get supported. Atm i have to admit that this is not a bug specific to 70D!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on August 17, 2015, 12:00:59 AM
No...  this is not a scene from "The Matrix"  :P

(http://s1.postimg.org/8yp3bagun/70_D_111_B_7b_6_FPS_Cap_On.jpg)

Not sure if this helps or not...  This is an FPS Override (6FPS) with the lens cap on.
I believe what we are witnessing , technically, isn't vertical 'banding', as I previously called it.  It's more of a pattern.  I did look at two of my videos, and compared the vertical stripes, and they were identically placed stripes / patterns in all of the videos. 

For example:
(http://s17.postimg.org/w0xqmb727/70_D_111_B_7b_6_FPS_Comp.jpg)
(http://s17.postimg.org/p97bjgi2n/70_D_111_B_7b_6_FPS_Comp_2.jpg)

These are two different videos, shot at two different times, with two different lenses.  Notice how the stripes / patterns line-up vertically between the two...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on August 17, 2015, 02:16:18 AM
      @NikFreak

   I think we are Talking about same thing ~ on both items.

My set up for FRSP + ARS is ~

Silent Picture   "Full-res, DNG"

Audio RemoteShot   ON, level=20

ExposureMode    "P" or "Tv" or "Av"

LiveView ~ Shout - Whistle - Clap - etc

I too am getting the warning @ UpperLeft of Screen    "manual mode is required"

But the Exposure gets Triggered, the DNG gets Stored on the SDCard & the Cam Readies for the Next Loud Sound.


     As for my Desire to be able to Disable Auto ISO, You are correct that in M mode we have Manual Control over ISO ~ But only in M mode.

I would like to have Manual Control over ISO in "P" & "Tv" & "Av" as well.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b &quot;ICEMAN&quot; / 15th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on August 17, 2015, 05:36:53 AM
Admittedly, I tried both 6fps and 3 fps overcrank at 100iso the other day while I was sitting at the airport, and while the banding was present and agree that it is consistent, it was not super visible (i.e. not really visible on the back screen without looking for it).  What I really miss and actually spend probably 10mins looking for when I first upgraded and noticed it has not rolled over in my transfer of the settings file was the gradual exposure, this a really miss and was a huge feature to me.  I know it was part of another item in the build that was disabled, but it really on its own was a significant feature that to me was huge and worked extremely well (sorry I felt it was well reported it's solid functionality and I didn't personally submit its effectiveness).  I never had an issue.

I'll submit an official report tomorrow, but what I see has been improved though still not perfect is the record mode picture profile.  I had issue with it not reliably switching to my record profile of Cinestyle over Standard for when not recording.  While this is improved and the second video after boot reliably switches to Cinestyle, the first almost guaranteed never switches out of standard.

(Yes I have not updated my sig on the computer yet, I'm writing from Tapatalk on my Note 4, but I'm on build B with my 70D)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: chrisfrancia on August 17, 2015, 07:20:23 AM
Found another bug:
When you have more than 1 LV Display Presets enabled and you attempt to change Kelvin White Balance setting by pressing info from the Canon Q Menu you cannot change the setting. However, having only 1 LV Display Preset enabled remedies the bug. It is likely still possible to change the white balance from the ML menu. I found this bug when using 3 LV Display Presets, I did not try to replicate the bug with 2 or 4 display presets.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 17, 2015, 09:10:15 AM
@OlRivrRat: Guess something like this (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8688.125), right? If so then I would ask you to put a request over there.

@Technopilot: I'll have a look and try to enable "Gradual Exposure" with the next update again. Those patterns you talking about seem to be interesting topic too. I've posted some link to a topic covering such things here (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg152760#msg152760).

@chrisfrancia:  thx for the report.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on August 18, 2015, 12:06:37 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on August 17, 2015, 09:10:15 AM
@Technopilot: I'll have a look and try to enable "Gradual Exposure" with the next update again. Those patterns you talking about seem to be interesting topic too. I've posted some link to a topic covering such things here (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg152760#msg152760).

That would be awesome if it can be made to be implemented without having to enable another non-functional component.  The only issue I found was with large rapid exposure changes as a reported before, but even then, it was only with the reported current ISO not with the actual gradual image change (incorrect ISO being displayed in the ML overlays compared to actual ISO value).

I read through a lot of what you linked to and I have to agree it does seem to be fixed pattern noise, probably caused by the CMOS sensor itself that is creeping in, even in h264 recording, though most of the reported problem seems to be when undercranking in raw. I feel like a lot of the discussion seems to focus on, might require customized dark frame subtraction on a per camera basis to be implemented to properly eliminate it and is probably beyond the 70D specific development that you are doing.  That is my two cents.

I also just noticed last night, the removal of the arrow key shortcuts (I really need to read the release information closer from now on).  I am assuming you have some ideas for better implementation of this function by your comment?  Overall, the previous implementation worked pretty well in my experience and was only hurt by the initial Canon menu appearance overtop of the ML overlays on the initial press of the AF button.  Is there anything that we can do to help further development of your preferred solution for this?

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 18, 2015, 12:31:45 AM
I know the arrow keys would work but as written in changelog I want to finetune it so that it's really a single button press (maybe unpress) and cannot be activated by another button. It's a lil bit of hard work (got 60D's implementation as example) but we can always switch back and use the last implementation at any time. Shouldn't be a showstopper...

regarding banding / possible fixed pattern noise:
You written you captured the banding with lens cap on, right? Please read the following messages up to the end o fthe thread and try this if you got time:
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7122.msg152597#msg152597
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 18, 2015, 12:32:42 AM
may be a silly question by why is raw video being converted and stored as dng as the 70d cr2s work fine in photoshop and vegas pro.  wouldn't they save faster to the card as cr2?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: ontheset on August 18, 2015, 12:33:33 AM
I dont know what it is but every since the ALPHA5b everything is negative on liveview. But if I half press the shutter it turns ok. If I let go of the button it goes back to negative again.
Any guess?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 18, 2015, 12:46:42 AM
@aedipus: raw video is stored as mlv file containing the raw data. Only frsp saves as dng but can also write a single mlv file. Postprocessing is another topic...

@ontheset: Sounds like some misconfiguration. I understand "negative" in terms of "black and white". Can't follow your shot description of what you are experiencing exactly but you better use the config reset option in ML menu and retry.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b &quot;ICEMAN&quot; / 15th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on August 18, 2015, 12:46:46 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on August 18, 2015, 12:31:45 AM
I know the arrow keys would work but as written in changelog I want to finetune it so that it's really a single button press (maybe unpress) and cannot be activated by another button. It's a lil bit of hard work but we can always switch back and use the last implementation.

regarding banding / possible fixed pattern noise:
You written you captured the banding with lens cap on, right? Please read the following message up to the end and try this if ou got time:
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7122.msg152597#msg152597
Fair enough and definitely makes sense on the arrow shortcuts point.  I think I am getting what you mean on that point of only a single point of trigger (admittedly though I never stumbled upon another in my testing and use).

I will see what I can do on the link you sent which I have now read through.  I had not yet tried capturing a dark frame (lens cap on), though my testing and experimenting with undercranking had been in ALL-I h264 and not in RAW, as most of my video work does not warrant the extra work in post or storage requirements of RAW video.  I will let you know my results though when I have a chance to sit down and run through the steps listed in the link.

Just to confirm since you implemented the feature in this build at my request:

Record button shortcuts - Working, both with and without hold in all testing (Still have to try with remote trigger port after I finish rewiring my handle to not use Lanc) [emoji14]

Thanks again for implementing that for me!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 18, 2015, 12:53:21 AM
You might not have luck with h264 with the earlier linked solution. I thought the patterns were only appearing while raw recording (see below)!?

http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg152546#msg152546

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b &quot;ICEMAN&quot; / 15th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on August 18, 2015, 01:08:07 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on August 18, 2015, 12:53:21 AM
You might not have luck with h264 with the earlier linked solution. I thought the patterns were only appearing while raw recording (see below)!?

http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg152546#msg152546
I highly doubt I will have any luck doing anything like what you linked with the h264, I mean I'll see what my results are with using it with a RAW undercrank video.  I'll also offload those h264 3 & 6fps videos I took at the airport and see what the banding is like on a large monitor, honestly it appears no where like what I'm seeing with others using it with RAW and will probably disappear with grading from the flat Cinestyle profile.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on August 18, 2015, 05:29:33 AM
               @NikFreak

"I thought the patterns were only appearing while raw recording"

        I Don't shoot RawVid'. The Streaks I'm getting are in H264. I thought that was obvious when I posted

" Just tried 6FPS from 24 (1920/24All-I) & - Streaks are there - "
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on August 18, 2015, 06:07:02 AM
         @NikFreak

      "Guess something like this, right?"

   Actually no ~ Those guys are wanting Auto ISO in Man' Mode ~

I would like to have Manual Control over ISO in "P" & "Tv" & "Av" Modes.

Not wanting it to be a distraction from the GreatStuff you doing already - but - if you should happen to stumble on to a way ~~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on August 18, 2015, 03:17:52 PM
@nikfreak:  Looks like there may have been some confusion.  I was the one doing the testing and screen uploads of the FPS Override and analysis of the vertical patterns and testing with the lens cap on.  Everything I've done has been in h264; I've never shot video in RAW.  I know some would prefer you not work on this, as they have other prerogatives, but I am willing to assist in any way I can to help solve this.  Cheers!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: GlomB on August 18, 2015, 08:30:35 PM
I can't see my battery level in % anymore.
Is the option hidden in the menu? Or is it a bug?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: EvoX on August 18, 2015, 10:33:18 PM
I have a problem with magiclantern-Nightly.2015Aug15.70D111B
When navigating in the ML menu it closes the ML menu (after a random number of seconds betweeon 5-20 seconds). It is very annoying because you try to change some settings and boom, no ML.

I also had this problem with previous versions
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b &quot;ICEMAN&quot; / 15th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on August 18, 2015, 11:21:29 PM
Quote from: EvoX on August 18, 2015, 10:33:18 PM
I have a problem with magiclantern-Nightly.2015Aug15.70D111B
When navigating in the ML menu it closes the ML menu (after a random number of seconds betweeon 5-20 seconds). It is very annoying because you try to change some settings and boom, no ML.

I also had this problem with previous versions
@EvoX - Please ensure you read the first post.  This is a known problem with ML in general on multiple cameras when using LiveView and can be worked around by opening the ML menu while the camera is not using LiveView.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on August 19, 2015, 06:06:31 AM
                @NikFreak

        Suggestion ~ Move "What's Not Working" to the Beginning/Top of the Change Log.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: shakenda on August 19, 2015, 06:55:09 PM
I'm willing to try out this alpha build, but I'm going to wait until I have a stretch with no gigs lined up, just in case.  Any estimate on when the beta will be released?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 19, 2015, 07:32:58 PM
Quote from: shakenda on August 19, 2015, 06:55:09 PM
I'm willing to try out this alpha build, but I'm going to wait until I have a stretch with no gigs lined up, just in case.  Any estimate on when the beta will be released?

Thanks!

Beta is just a name! If that will encourage you to try it out I will call it Beta from next release on  ;D
Jokes aside the build really feels solid. Some lil' quirks here and there but no showstoppers.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b &quot;ICEMAN&quot; / 15th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on August 19, 2015, 08:06:53 PM
@shakenda, I'd have to echo @nikfreak on that feeling.  I've been running it non-stop since alpha5b through multiple gigs and have experienced no showstoppers, with the newest build being the most stable yet.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on August 19, 2015, 09:44:54 PM
                  @shakenda

        I'll do a 2nd Echo. I've been Onboard since the day the "B" Version Posted & have had No ShowStoppers.

Also, there is no reason @all that you have to have it Running After Install. If you want it to Go Away just use a Card that Doesn't have ML on it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 19, 2015, 11:17:41 PM
is there a FAQ for the 70d ml?  or could we create one?  it might keep most of the repetitive new user questions here to a minimum.  i can't do it as i am one of those newbies, but i'd help work on it.  if needed i could host it off on a static webpage of it's own.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 20, 2015, 08:54:39 AM
*Feedbacks*

Regarding Alpha7b aka 'ICEMAN' -- it actually gives you good luck to give it a name especially on the verge of becoming part of nightlies. 

1. Change log items
-Audio Meters: OK
-Movie Crop: OK
-Zoom to AF Point: OK
-Moving Focus Box: OK
-REC Key: OK
-Audio Remote Shot: OK <--This is real nice!

2. Overlays
-Zebras: OK
-Focus Peak: OK
-Magic Zoom: OK
-Crop Marks: OK
-Spot Meter: OK (Confirmed it moves with autofocus touch now) which is REALLY nice!
-False Color: OK
-Histogram: OK
-Waveform: OK
-Vectorscope: OK


3. Improvements from previous builds
When pressing Q to bring up the canon menu while on the ML view the Q menu seems much more stable (doesnt flash out and stuff) - Confirmed!


4. Bugs
-Pressing zoom in on canon menu, not ML view, brings up some debug window or something that sometimes says "saving config" at bottom, turning off camera gets rid of it - Confirmed this work around temporarily works!

-Battery indicator not working, also no percent shown only icon (confirmed & thought this was normal for Alpha's thus far or no?)

-Can't move spotmeter, magic zoom point while in manual focus on lens (Confirmed it does NOT move while in manual focus aka Nikon Lens, etc)

-While recording RAW video pressing menu button causes camera to black screen, then crash, didn't have to remove battery just restarted, recording lost. Pretty much a non issue since once you know about it you just dont hit it, not really a reason to/you arent usually able to, but, figured i'd mention it since i accidentally did it. (CONFIRMED this but it was well documented earlier I believe?)

-Trap Focus: Works as expected but doesn't work if LiveView is on and don't remember if it worked previously with it on?

-Auto Exposure Module: This one seems strange because I'm still trying to investigate on this one further before I can explain this into details. It just seems like it doesn't act properly while in LV but other than that it seems OK?

-Movie Crop: OK Although not a big deal but it should be possible to assign this into a hot key one of these days?

-Movie Crop: Follow Focus seems to have trouble staying on Subject while in this mode. Still investigating.

-Dual iso video mode: Not working as expected.

-FPS-Override 24p MLV/RAW: OK

-FPS-Override 6 fps & Under: Vertical Banding showing as expected.

-FPS-Override 60p MVL: Somewhat OK

-FPS-Override 60p RAW: OK

Also @nikfreak let me know if you would like or need video clips of certain modules or tweaks on 70D.111B -- Thanks, mate!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 20, 2015, 11:47:31 AM
Quote4. Bugs
-Pressing zoom in on canon menu, not ML view, brings up some debug window or something that sometimes says "saving config" at bottom, turning off camera gets rid of it - Confirmed this work around temporarily works!
Don't get this on 70D.111A

QuoteBattery indicator not working, also no percent shown only icon (confirmed & thought this was normal for Alpha's thus far or no?)
Anyone confirmed that the shown percent value matches real life value? Anyways it will be enabled in next update

QuoteCan't move spotmeter, magic zoom point while in manual focus on lens (Confirmed it does NOT move while in manual focus aka Nikon Lens, etc)
Big deal? guess we can't get this working with the next update...

QuoteWhile recording RAW video pressing menu button causes camera to black screen, then crash, didn't have to remove battery just restarted, recording lost. Pretty much a non issue since once you know about it you just dont hit it, not really a reason to/you arent usually able to, but, figured i'd mention it since i accidentally did it.
might be due to MLV snd? Can you check with disabled sound?

QuoteTrap Focus: Works as expected but doesn't work if LiveView is on and don't remember if it worked previously with it on?
Trap focus only works in photo mode. Not LV. It's not a bug on 70D but depends on properties which aren't available on 70D. This is also hindering some magic zoom features / options. But there's an orange colored text on menu option which states that Trap focus doesn't work on LV. So it is not a bug.

Quote
Auto Exposure Module: This one seems strange because I'm still trying to investigate on this one further before I can explain this into details. It just seems like it doesn't act properly while in LV but other than that it seems OK?
Next update will have fps override disabled and therefore switch back to APEX units. Sorry can't deal with pages of vertical banding reports for now. Then ettr needs to be re-checked. It will work slower but more accurate (I hope so)

QuoteMovie Crop: OK Although not a big deal but it should be possible to assign this into a hot key one of these days?
An enhancement request we will later look into again. But that time we should have been merge into unified branch and gotten official nightly.

Quote
Movie Crop: Follow Focus seems to have trouble staying on Subject while in this mode. Still investigating.
Huh? Follow focus isn't available on last release. Focus box is fixed. Can't be moved. Read on here (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg152775#msg152775) and let me know what is really buggy.
Quote
-Dual iso video mode: Not working as expected.
Same for 50D / 7D. Atm there's not much I can do. We will have to look at that again some time later in future. But it's not a bug. In movie mode the menu option dualiso definitely prints an orange colored message that it will not work!!

Quote-FPS-Override 24p MLV/RAW: OK

-FPS-Override 6 fps & Under: Vertical Banding showing as expected.

-FPS-Override 60p MVL: Somewhat OK

-FPS-Override 60p RAW: OK
As written above: can't deal with banding reports as I have no solution. I wanna have the build as stable as possible. We will deal with that at a later time in future. There's hope that we will get it to work in future.
Quote
Also @nikfreak let me know if you would like or need video clips of certain modules or tweaks on 70D.111B -- Thanks, mate!
No, this time no need. Your vids really helped me much until now. With next update you could maybe expand / sum-up the list with "OK" fillings (excluding missing features. See my comments above for "it's not a bug") so I can update the 1st page. Not a must, just if you or anyone has time! Semi-solved. We just update the "What's not working section" on 1st post from now on.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: crirus on August 20, 2015, 03:26:23 PM
Hi

Anyone knows if it's possible to set the focusing speed with ML and limit ISO max value when set to Auto Iso?

Thank you
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on August 20, 2015, 03:32:23 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on August 20, 2015, 08:54:39 AM

-FPS-Override 6 fps & Under: Vertical Banding showing as expected.


@DeafEyeJedi:  Admittedly, I haven't tried FPS Overrive *above* 6fps....  Are you saying that the vertical pattern stripes don't occur at 7fps and above?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: camslide on August 20, 2015, 03:33:31 PM
Quote from: crirus on August 20, 2015, 03:26:23 PM
Hi

Anyone knows if it's possible to set the focusing speed with ML and limit ISO max value when set to Auto Iso?

Thank you
You can adjust both in Canon menu. Read the manual for further information.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: crirus on August 20, 2015, 03:41:24 PM
Quote from: camslide on August 20, 2015, 03:33:31 PM
You can adjust both in Canon menu. Read the manual for further information.

Actually I did, and iso range is not working on video mode, it crank up iso to 6400 if needed.
As far as focus I am talking about adjustment speed (rack focus speed) not reaction speed on subject moves.

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on August 20, 2015, 06:22:45 PM
      @JohnnyG_71 & @DeafEyeJedi & @NikFreak

   Just tested FPS-Overide @ 7, 8, 9, 10 - H264 From 24All-I & I get Vert' Streaks @ 7 & 8 but Not @ 9 & 10 ~

It seems a shame to disable a Very Useful Function because it displays an issue in a Very Small (Possibly even Seldom Used) Portion of its Functional Abilities.

It could be argued that if that path is to be followed, the whole ML Project should be disabled because it has a few bugs.

                    Why not just make note of the issue in "What's Not Working" & move on to other Fixable Stuff.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: chrisfrancia on August 20, 2015, 06:44:31 PM
I tested the camera crash when pushing menu while raw recording issue further and discovered that it only happens with mlv raw, with and without mlv audio turned on. The camera also does not crash when recording raw (not mlv) and you forget to turn off mlv audio.

Let me know if theres anything else i can do to help :)

PS, if you realize you have created this situation where you will crash and try to turn off the camera before exiting from the canon menu you will actually still crash when you turn the camera back on. Never know what might help so i figured id mention it
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 20, 2015, 07:04:58 PM
Quote from: chrisfrancia on August 20, 2015, 06:44:31 PM
I tested the camera crash when pushing menu while raw recording issue further and discovered that it only happens with mlv raw, with and without mlv audio turned on. The camera also does not crash when recording raw (not mlv) and you forget to turn off mlv audio.

Confirmed and thanks @nikfreak for forcing me to double check that once again. With mlv audio enabled off and recording in RAW while pressing Menu does NOT crash the camera. If recording RAW with mlv audio enabled ON -- it will crash and same goes for if recording in MLV with or without mlv audio.

As I'm getting ready to head out for work -- during downtime I'll go over your questions and will confirm with you as soon as I can.

Quote from: JohnnyG_71 on August 20, 2015, 03:32:23 PM
@DeafEyeJedi:  Admittedly, I haven't tried FPS Overrive *above* 6fps....  Are you saying that the vertical pattern stripes don't occur at 7fps and above?

Will get back to you on that during downtime at work. Thanks @johnnyG_71 for the heads up.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b &quot;ICEMAN&quot; / 15th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on August 20, 2015, 07:28:55 PM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on August 20, 2015, 06:22:45 PM
      @JohnnyG_71 & @DeafEyeJedi & @NikFreak

   Just tested FPS-Overide @ 7, 8, 9, 10 - H264 From 24All-I & I get Vert' Streaks @ 7 & 8 but Not @ 9 & 10 ~

It seems a shame to disable a Very Useful Function because it displays an issue in a Very Small (Possibly even Seldom Used) Portion of its Functional Abilities.

It could be argued that if that path is to be followed, the whole ML Project should be disabled because it has a few bugs.

                    Why not just make note of the issue in "What's Not Working" & move on to other Fixable Stuff.
I quite heartedly agree OlRivrRat, it would be a real shame to disable this feature when I feel it is quite useful and usable in its current state, though I do understand your sentiment on not wanting to hear about banding issues.  I would however point out that the 70D is not the only camera to experience it and it seems to be present even in the 5DIII build from the research I've seen on the banding issue.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 20, 2015, 09:22:36 PM
Guys, disabling it for next update doesn't mean it will be completely lost. Check again my post. I stated there's hope but really all fps features you tried til now were based upon the timer_A. I never got timer_B (needed for exact fps, 180d...) to work. But there's a way I got timer_B to work. The adtg module has an option to force low fps and that works by only using timer_b. To find a proper solution or at least a hint I have to talk to a1ex at a later time and this is why I will disable it on next update. It will be back again once I get timer_B to work! Then, fps override will be back and that time fully featured w/o dirty implementation. At the actual state it was rather hacky but always prepared for a merge into unified. Think of it seeing it from the ML codebase's view. 70D wouldn't be enough to justify some dirty implementation, right? So let's focus on making the build as stable as possible. Work on 70D will continue. Now and also in future....

btw: hdr video has been confirmed by DeafEyejedi to work.so will be back again with next update as well as gradual exposure and atm I am also re-investigatin bitrate options...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b &quot;ICEMAN&quot; / 15th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on August 20, 2015, 09:46:43 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on August 20, 2015, 09:22:36 PM
Guys, disabling it for next update doesn't mean it will be completely lost. Check again my post. I stated there's hope but really all fps features you tried til now were based upon the timer_A. I never got timer_B (needed for exact fps, 180d...) to work. But there's a way I got timer_B to work. The adtg module has an option to force low fps and that works by only using timer_b. To find a proper solution or at least a hint I have to talk to a1ex at a later time and this is why I will disable it on next update. It will be back again once I get timer_B to work! Then, fps override will be back and that time fully featured w/o dirty implementation. At the actual state it was rather hacky but always prepared for a merge into unified. Think of it seeing it from the ML codebase's view. 70D wouldn't be enough to justify some dirty implementation, right? So let's focus on making the build as stable as possible. Work on 70D will continue. Now and also in future....

btw: hdr video has been confirmed by DeafEyejedi to work.so will be back again with next update as well as gradual exposure and atm I am also re-investigatin bitrate options...
Okay, awesome to hear Nikfreak!  See you give us features we like and we tend to panic when you hint at maybe taking them away. [emoji14]

It makes sense though what you mentioned and I have to give you kudos on your work around using timer A then, as it felt quite solid and not at all cludged together.

Awesome to hear that the HDR and gradual exposure features will be coming back in the next build, I can't wait! :)

Amazing work as always Nikfreak, thank you for all the hard work and time you put into this port for the 70D!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 22, 2015, 10:58:12 AM
here's the next update:

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9Mu66yg5QzRfnBJTEdlYjBicWtJZEhFM0I3aW4wT2hKLXRMNzBiOElWbk55Vzl4Zlh2eE0&usp=sharing

Please do a quick test before I update the 1st post! For changelog see:
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/620/add-support-for-eos-70d-111-both-revisions/commits
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: Ley on August 22, 2015, 04:38:41 PM
hey,

How can i enable Audio Monitoring through usb with the current(15.Aug) version? I cannot find the settings as shown here: https://youtu.be/yo8IoJi1ZvI?t=2m21s
I thought it comes with the mlv-sounds update...
Am i doing something wrong or is it not available yet?

thanks.

Ley

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 22, 2015, 06:32:43 PM
@ ley - sorry but if you look on the ml audio menu the only thing implemented at this time is mlv sound for recording audio with raw mlv video.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 22, 2015, 06:59:19 PM
@nikfreak - tried hdr video.  all frames the same.  for some reason the hdr ml settings say iso 0/0,4ev instead of iso 100/1600,4.0ev like on my 60d.  tried at both 1920x1080 all-i and 1280x720 all-i.

the hdr option in the menu turns green when it is selected but it's a dull green not like other items that are on.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b &quot;ICEMAN&quot; / 15th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on August 22, 2015, 07:03:13 PM
Quote from: aedipuss on August 22, 2015, 06:59:19 PM
@nikfreak - tried hdr video.  all frames the same.  for some reason the hdr ml settings say iso 0/0,4ev instead of iso 100/1600,4.0ev like on my 60d.  tried at both 1920x1080 all-i and 1280x720 all-i.

the hdr option in the menu turns green when it is selected but it's a dull green not like other items that are on.
That sounds like you are trying to take it in h264 codec and not raw, remember it only works in raw.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 22, 2015, 07:11:53 PM
LOL that would be it.  thought it was implemented for normal video like for other ml versions.  oh well...  the change log only said -bring back hdr video- didn't know it was only for raw video.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 22, 2015, 07:12:21 PM
Doesn't show HDR option on ML menu and it only may be affecting the 111.B versions?

Also Image-Fine tuning doesn't show Shutter adjustment options when I thought it worked on earlier build?

I'll do video demo today at work since I'm on stand by all day so have plenty of free time.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" / 15th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 22, 2015, 07:14:07 PM
Quote from: TechnoPilot on August 22, 2015, 07:03:13 PM
That sounds like you are trying to take it in h264 codec and not raw, remember it only works in raw.

HDR video is way older than RAW/MLV video. If there was information given about 70D HDR video function limited to RAW/MLV I missed to find this post.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 22, 2015, 10:40:20 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on August 22, 2015, 07:12:21 PM
... and it only be affecting the 111.B versions?

Updated 1st post! Please install and testdrive...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 22, 2015, 10:46:41 PM
@nikfreak: "What's not working" needs adjustment:
"HDR video is completely disabled"
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on August 22, 2015, 10:47:20 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on August 22, 2015, 07:14:07 PM
HDR video is way older than RAW/MLV video. If there was information given about 70D HDR video function limited to RAW/MLV I missed to find this post.
Well my miss understanding then, but was always under the impression that the HDR processing had to be done in post and not in realtime in the camera, this certainly cannot be done in post on an h264 compressed image.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 22, 2015, 10:53:25 PM
@nikfreak:

Thanks for the heads up. Downloading Beta-1 and will report back asap.

@Everyone:

As far as I'm concerned if I can recall correctly that HDR can be recorded in either h264 or RAW/MLV just as long as you shoot in slo-mo such as 48, 50 or 60 fps.

RAW looks really nice, actually from my experience (http://experience).

Post workflow is rather easy if you are on a Mac since I use @Danne's cr2hdr-r (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13512.0cr2hdr-r) which works flawlessly for both h264 & MLV/RAW.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 22, 2015, 10:57:04 PM
@TechnoPilot: I think you are getting it wrong.
http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/userguide#hdr_video
Some essential links are outdated and tools unsupported at time of writing, though.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 22, 2015, 11:29:44 PM
HDR video records in h264 fine in other ML cameras like the 60D i own.  still not working in 70D at all.  reloaded the beta-1 from page 1 and still not working in 1080p30 and 720p60.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: PrasadVedvikhyat on August 23, 2015, 08:33:54 AM
@nikfreak  The beta is working pretty smoothly. Thanks a lot!  :D

But this problem still exists: camera crashes if I touch the screen while recording mlv. This doesn't happen while shooting H.264.
'Touch to focus' feature just crashes the camera while shooting mlv.
Title: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 23, 2015, 09:47:49 AM
Sorry guys it took awhile in Post to get them in working order.  ;D

Workflow as follows:
cr2hdr-r > Vimeo (that's it ... nice 'n easy -- Thanks @Danne!).

H264 HDR in 60fps (Pre-post):
https://vimeo.com/137043764

RAW HDR in 60fps (Pre-post):
https://vimeo.com/137043762

MLV HDR in 60fps (Pre-post):
https://vimeo.com/137043763

H264 HDR converted 30 fps in cr2hdr-r:
https://vimeo.com/137043952

RAW HDR converted to 30 fps in cr2hdr-r:
https://vimeo.com/137043951

MLV HDR converted to 30 fps in cr2hdr-r:
https://vimeo.com/137043950

Thanks @nikfreak for bringing HDR back to life on the 70D!

*edit*

Actually just realized that I forgot Vimeo automatically converts 60fps to 30fps so the original HDR shows flicker but apparently not on this. I'll do a screen flow later to show you guys what it is supposed to look like before converting them in post.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: arpowers on August 23, 2015, 10:47:35 AM
Just wondering what the ETA is for the audio controls in 70D ML? 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 23, 2015, 10:52:26 AM
Top of page -> User Guide -> FAQ -> Troll Questions
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Danne on August 23, 2015, 11:26:54 AM
@deafyeyejedi. Cool to see HDR brought back to life in 70D. Good one.
A little confused with the loggish look in your HDR mlv files. I removed hardcoded 3d luts from cr2hdr-r. What version are you using?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 23, 2015, 12:50:33 PM
Quote from: PrasadVedvikhyat on August 23, 2015, 08:33:54 AM
@nikfreak  The beta is working pretty smoothly. Thanks a lot!  :D

But this problem still exists: camera crashes if I touch the screen while recording mlv. This doesn't happen while shooting H.264.
'Touch to focus' feature just crashes the camera while shooting mlv.

I updated the 1st post in "What's not working" section. The workaround is to disable "Beep"in canon menu or set that option to "Touch to...". I ofc tried to fix it in the meantime but wasn't successful. So everybody better follow the advice when using mlv sound.

Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on August 23, 2015, 09:47:49 AM
Thanks @nikfreak for bringing HDR back to life on the 70D!
...

Really, thank you for confirming that it works.

Quote from: OlRivrRat on August 19, 2015, 06:06:31 AM
...Suggestion ~ Move "What's Not Working" to the Beginning/Top of the Change Log.
Done!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: PrasadVedvikhyat on August 23, 2015, 03:05:56 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on August 23, 2015, 12:50:33 PM
I updated the 1st post in "What's not working" section. The workaround is to disable "Beep"in canon menu or set that option to "Touch to...". I ofc tried to fix it in the meantime but wasn't successful. So everybody better follow the advice when using mlv sound.


Ok cool. That worked.

Once again, thanks a ton for your amazing work!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 23, 2015, 05:14:32 PM
the tool (hdr-workflow-051) to merge HDR video in windows expects an h264 mov file and can't open MLV or RAW. 

i tried shooting 1280/60 raw and mlv HDR and get the same results as shooting h264, the HDR menu option turns green but it's shaded and it list the options as 0/0,4ev  and the resulting video has no flicker in mlrawviewer.

how do i get raw/mlv to shoot 1280/720?  i set it to 1280 16/9 and get 1280/432.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 23, 2015, 05:34:25 PM
here's what the ml screen shows - anything pop out that needs to change to record HDR?
(http://www.minidv2dvd.com/temp/hdr.jpg)
Title: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 23, 2015, 05:38:20 PM
@Danne:

I used version 10_beta...

I'll upload files for you shortly.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: dmilligan on August 23, 2015, 07:57:05 PM
Quote from: aedipuss on August 23, 2015, 05:34:25 PM
here's what the ml screen shows - anything pop out that needs to change to record HDR?
If you select the HDR video menu item, what does it say at the bottom? Something like "This feature requires manual ISO."? Are you using manual ISO?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 23, 2015, 08:10:50 PM
@aedipuss: be sure that "Expo override" is set to on. On your posted screenshot HDRvideo is clearly "greyed out". I tried to replicate and "Expo override" was causing it to me when set to off.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 23, 2015, 08:31:50 PM
@dmilligan - thank you!!!  it was set to auto.  HDR video menu setting now turns bright green and is working in h264 mov.  the windows tool only works with mov.


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 23, 2015, 08:34:48 PM
@nikfreak -  thank you!!! exp override was off.  and thank you for getting ML going on this cam, i bought it just a couple weeks ago when i saw you were working on it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 23, 2015, 09:29:19 PM
anyone have a windows workflow to get HDR video processed?  i take the 1280x432 mlv and open it with mlrawviewer_143 and export mov.  which should then go into  hdr_workflow_051, but it won't open the mov mlrawviewer has created. 

vegas will open the mltawviewer mov and reports it as prores444 and i have that codec installed.

hdr workflow does open a HDR video if it's recorded by the 70d camera in mov.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 23, 2015, 09:55:31 PM
@aedipuss:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=56.0

@Danne:

Here are the HDR files for you...

https://mega.nz/#F!rwEXHBiS!LrJRQ3K6OJ-MOxQBkhaNZg
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Danne on August 23, 2015, 10:10:23 PM
Thanks! I, ll check them out tomorrow.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 24, 2015, 12:24:06 AM
@deafeyejedi is there a version of cr2hdr-r for windows?  all i located is the osx version.  i have the cr2hdr lightroom plugin but it does nothing for HDR video.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 24, 2015, 05:57:20 AM
Maybe GingerHDR?

http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/userguide#hdr_video
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Danne on August 24, 2015, 07:04:47 AM
THere are a couple of HDR windows alternatives, don,t remember the name so just do some searching and you will find them.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: pontius on August 24, 2015, 11:06:53 AM
I downloaded latest beta-1 but I don't have HDR option in movie menu, am I missing something?
Title: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 24, 2015, 11:08:58 AM
Did you enable the required modules first and reboot cam?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 24, 2015, 11:13:08 AM
@DeafEyeJedi: You need to enable a module to make HDR option visible?
Title: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 24, 2015, 11:14:39 AM
I thought so -- If not then how come @pontius couldn't locate it?

I think you have to have the gradual exposure module enabled in order to have HDR?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: pontius on August 24, 2015, 11:16:04 AM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on August 24, 2015, 11:08:58 AM
Did you enable the required modules first and reboot cam?
There's no HDR module on module list. Where I can get it?
edit: Gradual exposure doesn't have loadable module in list but it is present on movie menu.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 24, 2015, 11:17:30 AM
There is no HDR module!
And there is no gradual exposure module!

Delete ML directory and Autoexec.bin from card. Copy extracted nightly build contents to card. Retry and report.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 24, 2015, 11:35:08 AM
Open your eyes:
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg153285#msg153285
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: pontius on August 24, 2015, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on August 24, 2015, 11:35:08 AM
Open your eyes:
I tried but with no success, still no HDR option in movie menu or modules list :)
(http://s1.postimg.org/rzl51whl9/nohdr.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 24, 2015, 11:54:00 AM
Delete ML directory and Autoexec.bin from card. Copy extracted nightly build contents to card. Retry and report.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: pontius on August 24, 2015, 12:11:24 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on August 24, 2015, 11:54:00 AM
Delete ML directory and Autoexec.bin from card. Copy extracted nightly build contents to card. Retry and report.
A-ha! That's why there were no HDR. I had beta-1 compiled 8AM @ Aug22 and this which is on first site now is compiled 11PM @ Aug22. I should have guessed there can be newer builds with same name and version. But thanks for noticing, now it works.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 24, 2015, 01:20:41 PM
No need to guess as it was definitely announced:
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg153241#msg153241

You might have simply missed it.

Quote from: Walter Schulz on August 22, 2015, 10:46:41 PM
@nikfreak: "What's not working" needs adjustment:
"HDR video is completely disabled"
Done! thx.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 24, 2015, 04:26:52 PM
@pontius - i'd try again.  format the card in the camera choosing the delete ML option.  then copy the ML files on the card and update the firmware and reboot.  you shouldn't need to turn any modules on but you do need to turn on exposure override or turn off auto exposure for it to work.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: offshore on August 25, 2015, 11:58:43 AM
Hello everyone! Thanks to nikfreak for the great work done, I am trying some features of ML for photos, I put the last of 22 August, the version 111B .... last night I wanted to do a time lapse at the night sky and I set intervalometer ..... has three chances to start, 1: automatic, 2: half-pressing the shutter button, 3: taking the first photo ..... well, set the shooting parameters, if start automatically at the end of the program does not go out from intervalometer function and begins to take many pictures quickly .... if you set starting at the first shoot, after the first, makes no more, identical thing if you half-press the shutter .... and to get out of this problem, is necessary to remove the battery ..... someone happened the same ??? tnx!

-intervallometer: not work fine
-dual iso : work ok

other... after! :)

(PS sorry for my english.... St.Google help me!)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 25, 2015, 12:05:35 PM
Please provide camera settings for your failed intervalometer session.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: offshore on August 25, 2015, 12:50:28 PM
my setting camera:
sigma 10-20mm @ 14mm
f7
manual mode
iso 1000
time 15 sec
raw
no AF

intervallometer:
take a pic every 45s
start trigger leave menu
start after 5 sec
stop after 800 shots
manual focus ramp off


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 25, 2015, 02:24:27 PM
Retry please.
Leave ML menu using Trashcan button. Counter should be seen inside Canon menu. And you can stop intervalometer by pressing Play button anytime.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: offshore on August 25, 2015, 04:34:11 PM
I tried, I have put photos as evidence 10, and as the start I chose half shutter. when it starts to take pictures, the upper display shows me always 999 (empty card) and pressing play will stop but I'm not re-enter the menu ML .... I have to remove the battery! I try to reinstall ML, formatting from the mac, the card .... and then talking about!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 25, 2015, 05:28:01 PM
(999) doesn't say "empty card" but is Canon's way to tell there is enough card memory to store 999 or more pics based on estimated file size.
Are you able to access and browse Canon menu after stopping intervalometer?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: offshore on August 25, 2015, 05:34:59 PM
Unfortunately not .... I have to disconnect the battery to to take back control of the camera ....
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: offshore on August 25, 2015, 05:38:59 PM
thanks a lot for your help!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 25, 2015, 06:40:01 PM
? Problem solved?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on August 25, 2015, 06:43:29 PM
      @OffShore & AWIMC

   Just tried ML Intervalometer on My 70D+ML B1 2015Aug22.70D111B & Was Successful.

My setup

Canon 18-200mm @ 18mm
manual mode
ISO 1250
f7.1
time 15 sec
Raw+JPG
no AF

intervallometer:
take a pic every 15s ~ Sorry, didn't want to wait so long
start trigger leave menu
start after 5 sec
stop after 4 shots ~ Sorry, didn't want to waste 800Shutters & all that time
manual focus ramp off
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: offshore on August 25, 2015, 07:27:45 PM
I have downloaded the firm re 111B for the second time and I remade it all over again, I think the previous downolad not been successful because remaking it all over again has gone everything in place! maybe my adsl line was bad and perhaps caused some mistake ... I do not know .... I uninstalled before the boot flag ML from my camera, and then I reformatted with the mac the sd card and I remade as if for the first time and it seems to be everything in place. Now intervalometer works! tonight I try to remake the time lapse weather permitting ..... anyway thanks for the help and continuous testing ML.
Roberto.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 25, 2015, 08:07:31 PM
for windows people looking for a dual-iso cr2 to dng workflow that produces 70d dngs that photoshop can use, try this.

barracudaGUI - http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9102.0

and the latest jenkins build of cr2hdr-20bit - https://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/view/Other%20tasks/job/cr2hdr-20bit/

follow the barracudaGUI install instructions and your resulting DNGs will be usable.


now if i can just work out a way to set the dual iso manual exposures properly to get good HDR pics  :-)  so far i mostly overexpose everything....
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: kaidian on August 28, 2015, 05:47:54 PM
Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, great work to all concerned bringing Beta 1 to the 70d.

What is planned in the build for audio. At the moment there is no ML audio menu and the ML audio meters are showing much lower readings than the Canon meters. This can be seen especially in AGC mode where the Canon meters run high into the yellow (-12db) but the ML meters dont match this.
Title: Beta testing
Post by: cosmopotter on August 28, 2015, 09:37:01 PM
Congratulations for all the hard work @nikfreak! Although I am a new contributor to this forum, I have been coming here since you first started work on the 70D project and have monitored the progress almost daily. I'm sorry that I wasn't able to contribute as I was too busy to mess around with my camera during the build. I had one of the first 70D's in Canada and have also been using ML on my 6D. Thanks also to @DeafEyeJedi and @walter_schulz who have been amazing contributors/testers, and of course @a1ex for the support from the beginning. I recently made a life change which has freed up some time for me, so as soon as I saw that you had reached beta phase, I decided it was time that I stop reading and start contributing. I have installed 70D.111B and am starting to go through it today.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: wmhsiaoyi on August 29, 2015, 08:34:54 AM
Hi, I have some problem in RAW record.
I've tried to find the answer but english is hard for me Q_Q

1. why my resolution max is 1824x776
2. my SD card (Sandisk extreme pro) writing speed is 90mb/s, but when I use 1280x720 (34.8mb/s) still got "skip frames" message.
3. when I use MLV format, and convert it to DNG but all adobe's software can't recognize the format (MLV viewer is fine)

help me please Q_Q

70D.111B
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 29, 2015, 08:42:18 AM
Benchmark your card inside cam: Debug tab -> Benchmarks -> Card R/W benchmark (5 min). Press play button after starting benchmark.
Do you use ExFAT file system? And Global Draw switched off?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: wmhsiaoyi on August 29, 2015, 04:23:18 PM
Benchmarks:
buffer 16384k=> W:38.1/R:38.0
buffer 15625k=> W:37.9/R:38.1
.
.
buffer 128k=> W:10.1/R:10.2

File System is exFAT and already turn off the global draws

Why Write/Read only 38MB/s? It speed up to 90mb/s when I use computer,  is my 70D's problem?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 29, 2015, 04:40:09 PM
Use Photo mode and press Play button after starting benchmark. Benchmark mode will be "PLAY-[...]". If it's "PH-[...]" instead, you're using benchmark mode with some overhead.
There will be a file BENCHx.PPM written to card. Check it.

70D's card interface limit is about 41 MByte/s for write operation.
Card looks fine, though.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: wmhsiaoyi on August 30, 2015, 07:45:04 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/53Hf1n8.jpg)

What should  I do next?

when resolution over 960x540 (22.6mb/s) it must skip frames.

btw, can i change fps from 29.97 to 24?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 30, 2015, 08:58:01 AM
Start here:
- Run MLV_REC.mo only. Turn off all other modules
- Run lens in manual mode
- You can't use ML "FPS override" in this version.
- Don't use crop mode

Use Canon menu to change "Movie rec. size" from "1920x1080 30 fps" to "1920x1080 24 fps".
Please report back if you're able to use 720p24 or not.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: wmhsiaoyi on August 30, 2015, 02:03:14 PM
720p24 is working  :) :)

but  I can't edit it on computer  (use ML RAW Video Converter 1.91)

(http://i.imgur.com/YWB2Y1b.png)

RAW=>DNG is fine but MLV=>DNG always not working.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Danne on August 30, 2015, 02:31:24 PM
What converter is that? Link?
For windows raw2cdng is recommended. Mlvfs for mac.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 30, 2015, 05:18:31 PM
Danne - raw2cdng.1.7.4 doesn't work for 70d mlv files.  it produces dng images that can't be imported into adobe or vegas.  i haven't found any current utility for windows that does.  the closest i've come for windows is the latest jenkins build of cr2hdr-20bit will convert 70d dual iso cr2 to usable dng.

(http://www.minidv2dvd.com/temp/raw2cdng.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: wmhsiaoyi on August 30, 2015, 05:51:10 PM
i found that "Adobe Lightroom " can import the dng file but the quality is very low and still got a error message.
(http://i.imgur.com/xYTRhHM.png)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: camslide on August 30, 2015, 06:31:54 PM
Quote from: wmhsiaoyi on August 30, 2015, 05:51:10 PM
i found that "Adobe Lightroom " can import the dng file but the quality is very low and still got a error message.
Already know issue. Use exiftool and change camera model to 60D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 30, 2015, 06:33:08 PM
i've got lightroom also.  yes it imports 70d dng but if you export dng they still don't work in photoshop or vegas, even if you use the cdr2dng plugin.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 30, 2015, 06:35:00 PM
is there a way to batch all of a folder's dng at once with exiftool?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 30, 2015, 06:38:46 PM
Windows: Open command prompt in directory and
exiftool <arguments> *.DNG
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 30, 2015, 06:43:46 PM
thx!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: kaidian on August 30, 2015, 07:04:37 PM
ML audio meters are showing much lower readings than the Canon meters. Using the Canon AGC mode as a test, the Canon meters run high into the yellow (-12db and above) but the ML meters dont match this and show very low readings. The same big mismatch happens in non AGC mode.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 30, 2015, 09:21:57 PM
i used exiftool to change the output of raw2cdng.1.7.4 dngs "model" to Canon EOS 60D and the dng files still can't be opened by adobe or vegas.  is there something else other than model that needs to be changed by the exiftool?

(http://www.minidv2dvd.com/temp/70d.png)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Danne on August 30, 2015, 09:26:23 PM
WHat happens when you export directly with mlv_dump? I think it recognize it as eos 6D. Also note that the adobe color matrices are the same for 70D and 6D so probably better to tag it as eos 6D rather than 60D?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 30, 2015, 10:06:25 PM
Really, it's time for an official merge into unified and all those utilities like mlvdump / raw2dng need to be recompiled. Most of these CameraModel related stuff won't happen then.So lil' bit of more patience. It will happen soon or less once he's back...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on August 31, 2015, 12:33:15 AM
@Danne - the output dng files from mlv_dump don't work in windows versions adobe or vegas either.  changing "model" with exiftool to 6D doesn't help.

@nitfreak - LOL yes they say patience is a virtue, but it doesn't help get things tested.  :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 31, 2015, 10:29:20 AM
*Fun Stuff*

One of my step-kids wanted me to record him singing a song... Decided to give 70D_Beta-1 a run on somewhat a long take in MLV with Audio.

Shot in 23.97fps w 50L 1.2 @ ISO 200 in 1440 x 654 (2.20:1) w GD on.

Workflow as follows:

MLVFS > AE (OICO for Cinelog-C FM + Apply LUT color Koji 2383) prior to exporting as H.264.

https://vimeo.com/137812055


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: kaidian on August 31, 2015, 02:02:28 PM
Posted this twice and no response, just more endless fixation with RAW on this forum. Audio is a problem that really does need attention.

ML audio meters are showing much lower readings than the Canon meters. Using the Canon AGC mode as a test, the Canon meters run high into the yellow (-12db and above) but the ML meters dont match this and show very low readings. The same big mismatch happens in non AGC mode.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: laci.szebeni on August 31, 2015, 02:09:07 PM
Quote from: kaidian on August 31, 2015, 02:02:28 PM
Posted this twice and no response, just more endless fixation with RAW on this forum. Audio is a problem that really does need attention.

ML audio meters are showing much lower readings than the Canon meters. Using the Canon AGC mode as a test, the Canon meters run high into the yellow (-12db and above) but the ML meters dont match this and show very low readings. The same big mismatch happens in non AGC mode.
Yeah, I know what you mean.. A lot of people here fixating on raw and hdr and other child's toys like that, while totally ignoring the more important stuff that professionals use in ML to make their canons functional in their line of work. I feel like most of the people here on this forum are using their dslr to shoot stuff in their back yard..
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: dmilligan on August 31, 2015, 02:57:35 PM
If you have a problem with the direction of the project, feel free to contribute.

The developers here are not compensated and merely work on this as a hobby project. We work on the things that interest us, because we find it fun, interesting, and educational, and then we turn around and freely share our work with others. For some reason, this fact tends to piss a lot of people off, esp. "professionals". I really can't understand why.

Quote from: laci.szebeni on August 31, 2015, 02:09:07 PM
while totally ignoring the more important stuff that professionals use in ML to make their canons functional in their line of work.
Translation:
Quotewhile totally ignoring what I consider to be the more important stuff that I, as a professional, use in ML to make my canons functional in my line of work.


Quote from: laci.szebeni on August 31, 2015, 02:09:07 PM
other child's toys like that
Quote from: laci.szebeni on August 31, 2015, 02:09:07 PM
I feel like most of the people here on this forum are using their dslr to shoot stuff in their back yard..
I guess I probably fall into that category, and personally, I would much rather work with those people than the so called "professionals"*. They tend to be much more humble, useful, and more likely to contribute to this project than many of the arrogant "professionals" who simply step in and yell "You should be working [feature X] because I'm a pro, you're a child, and I said so".

*I'm not trying to make a generalization here, there are very many "professionals" who have done considerable work for this project, and that is greatly appreciated. It's the few bad apples that just come in and make demands and have a generally poor attitude, that I have a problem with.

Quote from: kaidian on August 31, 2015, 02:02:28 PM
Posted this twice and no response, just more endless fixation with RAW on this forum. Audio is a problem that really does need attention.
Just because there was no response, doesn't mean that your post went unnoticed. I'm sure nikfreak appreciates all the reports of what is and isn't working, though he might not have time to respond to each and every one. Please continue to post problems that you might find, just know that it might not get an immediate response.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: laci.szebeni on August 31, 2015, 03:02:33 PM
Quote from: dmilligan on August 31, 2015, 02:57:35 PM
If you have a problem with the direction of the project, feel free to contribute.

The developers here are not compensated and merely work on this as a hobby project. We work on the things that interest us, because we find it fun, interesting, and educational, and then we turn around and freely share our work with others. For some reason, this fact tends to piss a lot of people off, esp. "professionals". I really can't understand why.
Translation:
I guess I probably fall into that category, and personally, I would much rather work with those people than the so called "professionals"*. They tend to be much more humble, useful, and more likely to contribute to this project than many of the arrogant "professionals" who simply step in and yell "You should be working [feature X] because I'm a pro, you're a child, and I said so".

*I'm not trying to make a generalization here, there are very many "professionals" who have done considerable work for this project, and that is greatly appreciated. It's the few bad apples that just come in and make demands and have a generally poor attitude, that I have a problem with.
Just because there was no response, doesn't mean that your post went unnoticed. I'm sure nikfreak appreciates all the reports of what is and isn't working, though he might not have time to respond to each and every one. Please continue to post problems that you might find, just know that it might not get an immediate response.
Funny thing is, if the team would concentrate on building a stable, useful ML, like the late v2.3, most of these arrogant "professionals" would gladly pay for it. Even if they'd only charge like 30 bucks for it, at say.. 1000 users, that would make for quite an income..
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 31, 2015, 03:16:25 PM
Who said that anyone is interested in income? For me it is like dmilligan said: a hobby project. Your calculation is really unrealistic if you would emphasize how much time I spent into bringing ML to 70D. And I am only talking about me - not other device maintainers / contributors / devs. Anyways let's return to topic please and stay on topic. I don't wanna have the 70D thread going offtopic:

I will recheck the audio meters and see if I can solve the reported issues (no promises)...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: kaidian on August 31, 2015, 03:35:04 PM
Ok all, lets take a deep breath, professionala and enthusiasts alike.

Thanks to the dedication of unpaid people such as nikfreak and others, ML has taken Canon DSLR's from an being an inadequate filmmaking tool to a pretty good filmmaking tool. Everyone can enjoy and explore the RAW capabilities but lets also keep an eye on fundamental features that are currently not right such as Audio. Pretty much everything else is working extremely well in Beta 1. I have been testing it for five days.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: bigorna on August 31, 2015, 04:49:26 PM
I thought that real professionals would be recording audio from a stand alone recorder, like a Tascam or Zoom and not from 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 31, 2015, 05:06:07 PM
Nikfreak asked most friendly to return to topic.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 31, 2015, 06:49:10 PM
Very well said @dmilligan! Although I am by no means a professional nor a photographer by hobby -- besides I just simply enjoy how/what certain people do together as a whole to not only move this project forward as well as others on a daily basis.

This is the audio I used for the sound test comparisons between Canon & MLV Audio levelers: Audible Dynamic Range Sound Test (http://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_dynamiccheck.phpAudible%20Dynamic%20Range%20Sound%20Test)

https://vimeo.com/137855378

Looks pretty close to being spot on (unless you guys were referring this for recording MLV files not giving out the expected audio levels? I also confirmed this on both AE and FCPX whereas the Audio Levels were showing pretty close to what I was seeing in the clip, if not spot on!).

Hope this help clears things up.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on August 31, 2015, 06:50:20 PM
      @Kaidian & TWIMC

   Just did a comparison test of the ML to Canon Audio/VUs on my 70D+B1/111B & found them to be

Pretty Darn Close to being a BangOn DeadMatch.

   It might be helpful to have the Peak Indicators Hold Position for a bit longer - If that is @all possible.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on August 31, 2015, 07:07:29 PM
So to sum it up: false report or did I miss something? sometimes I feel confused  ;D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: kaidian on August 31, 2015, 07:46:03 PM
Thanks nikfreak and others for showing audio levels working OK.

I have uninstalled and reinstalled ML and now my audio is perfect. I have no idea why a mismatch was happening with my original installation several days ago. I can not even replicate the mismatch as no matter what I do audio levels work perfectly now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: chmteacher on September 01, 2015, 09:59:25 PM
Any chance FPS override will return soon? Otherwise is there a place to download old versions like Alpha-7b? Thanks again for all your hard work.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on September 01, 2015, 11:02:40 PM
Added the requested 7b releases to the changelog section. Please note that I don't support older releases and don't want the thread to be mixed-up with old release discussions to avoid confusions.
I cannot make an ETA for the fps override feature. More info here (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg153137#msg153137).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: mattwilliams2321 on September 02, 2015, 07:12:09 PM
Hi, does anyone know if this version of Magic Lantern has Movie Restart?

I see it has movie tweaks enabled but no details if this includes movie restart.

Thanks!

Matt
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on September 02, 2015, 08:31:48 PM
yes it's available. It depends on which fw revision you run.There was a bug report recently which reported it as not working but I just fixed it this minute for 70D.111B.
70D.111A wasn't affected but I was too lazy to try it out (30mins). Fix for 70D.111B will be included in next update:

https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/commits/666d6214456b1e183d3b7335f866d963e8ae7254?at=unified
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: rorysb on September 02, 2015, 09:23:57 PM
Can somebody please let me know if there is any way magic lantern could make it so video recording is NOT disabled with wifi on?

This would be IMMENSELY helpful, in that it would allow us to use DSLR Controller to have a wireless monitor instead of having to go through USB. Especially if you are using a gimbal, this would be SO helpful.

Any and all responses from the community much appreciated. Thanks so much for all your hard work.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: chrisfrancia on September 02, 2015, 09:32:34 PM
Quote from: rorysb on September 02, 2015, 09:23:57 PM
Can somebody please let me know if there is any way magic lantern could make it so video recording is NOT disabled with wifi on?

This would be IMMENSELY helpful, in that it would allow us to use DSLR Controller to have a wireless monitor instead of having to go through USB. Especially if you are using a gimbal, this would be SO helpful.

Any and all responses from the community much appreciated. Thanks so much for all your hard work.

Use the TP-Link portable wireless router, works great
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: mattwilliams2321 on September 02, 2015, 10:53:51 PM
Hi Nikfreak, many thanks! I'll look out for 70D.111B.

Ah just realised, so it was 70D.111B that didn't work, in which case I guess I'll look out for the next update I guess 70D.111C?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on September 02, 2015, 11:03:20 PM
No it will be called Beta-2 once announced.
A / B are only firmware revisions and the C you state doesn't luckily exist (yes!!!)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: etremendus on September 03, 2015, 03:30:09 AM
nikfreak: I do undertsand that this is a hobbie for you, and therefore you are dedicating your time and effort to this, for which I want to say THANK YOU. But I want to ask: How high in your priority list is enabling focus functioanlity? thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on September 03, 2015, 07:41:43 AM
Quote from: etremendus on September 03, 2015, 03:30:09 AM
....how high in your priority list is enabling focus functioanlity? thanks

70D differs in terms of focus. It isn't jut words (has dualpixel af). For the moment we got DOF view and trap focus (in photo mode) as well as focus peak. Rest is buggy but I haven't been able to fix it. In other words: it might take some true amount of time until you see rack or follow focus coming to 70D (if ever).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on September 04, 2015, 07:16:55 PM
With 70D rack focus, not sure but to me touch screen pull focus is as useful and much easier to use. 

With AF facial recog, or even singe zone AF, with AI servo, is as useful as follow focus.

Focus peaks & zebras are great.  I like to use both for photo as well as video.

But if we could get Dual ISO for HDR shooting, and variable bit rate to pump up H264 detail now that would be kick ass.  JM2C.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: wesdrums on September 05, 2015, 02:17:45 AM
Quote from: mattwilliams2321 on September 02, 2015, 07:12:09 PM
Hi, does anyone know if this version of Magic Lantern has Movie Restart?

I see it has movie tweaks enabled but no details if this includes movie restart.

Thanks!

Matt


It's in there.  I have an "A" cam,  Movie restart works with H.264 recording.  I've tested.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on September 05, 2015, 05:58:29 AM
      @wesdrums & mattwilliams2321 & TWIMC

   I just Retested "Movie Restart" in H264 on my Old'Mod' 70D running ML 70D B1/111B & it

Quit Rec' @ 29:59 & Did Not Restart .
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on September 05, 2015, 06:55:41 AM
Confirmed Movie Restart does not work either for 111B as well...

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on September 05, 2015, 07:04:22 AM
Sean we talked about this. Follow the link in there and see your comment:
https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/commits/666d6214456b1e183d3b7335f866d963#comment-2263580

The fix as stated in that link will be available with the next update and only 70D.111B was affected:
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2358/
Title: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on September 05, 2015, 07:07:05 AM
Ah ouch should've known that & guess I got caught up confirming along with others.

My apologies for allowing this one to slip under my radar.

Now I'd better be quiet until the next update. [emoji87]
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on September 08, 2015, 02:33:59 AM
      @DeafEyeJedi & NikFreak

   DEJ  ~ Don't feel alone, it was a DoubleDuh for me. Not only did I forget that NikF' had posted about it back on 2Sep

but I Forgot that just back on 30Aug I had done 3 H264 Vid's of some clouds that I planned to turn into TimeLapses & I let

the 29:59 Quit be My Prompt to change to another view.

   NikF ~ Thanks again Ever So Much for All Your Dedication to this 70D Project !!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: SPalarius on September 14, 2015, 05:40:44 PM
Hi, everybody.
I noticed such bug that after installation of an insertion when pressing the button of descent two second timer turns on, in an insertion is switched off but only before switching off of the device, but it is worth including and everything repeats on new, prompt as all this to correct.
litter for my English.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Strikefox on September 15, 2015, 04:24:49 PM
Hi everybody,

I´m quite new to this forum, but I´ve been testing ML since April and I really appreciate 14-Bit RAW, but as a film-enthusiast I need some footage with higher resolution. Is it possible to add a 10-bit Full-HD @24 fps (uncompressed) recording mode?

Thanks!

Strikefox
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Frarike on September 15, 2015, 04:50:25 PM
Quote from: Strikefox on September 15, 2015, 04:24:49 PM
Hi everybody,

I´m quite new to this forum, but I´ve been testing ML since April and I really appreciate 14-Bit RAW, but as a film-enthusiast I need some footage with higher resolution. Is it possible to add a 10-bit Full-HD @24 fps (uncompressed) recording mode?

Thanks!

Strikefox

No, it's not possible unless you had a resolution like 1920x720.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: chrisfrancia on September 15, 2015, 05:30:51 PM
I have a question regarding low light performance.

Lighting is uncontrollable, lens will be fastest available (f1.4-1.8 ), 24fps, 50 shutter (maybe even drop it to 30?), and iso will be cranked as high as possible while retaining a usable 1080p image, post denoising will be applied but should not be factored since it will be applied 'equally' regardless.

Does the high iso nr setting effect video?

So what would give me the cleanest image at lets say 1600 iso to start

1. Lets start with picture style cinestyle or prolast neutral?

2. Should I apply ML iso gain? Will i get pink highlights?

3. Should I shoot raw 1280x720 and then upscale to 1080?

4. Should my iso be adjusted slightly to 1250 or 2500 to get less noise?

5. Bonus scenerio: would 1280x720 raw have less noise in a 720p export or would an h264 downscaled to 720p have less noise

Thanks in advance :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Canniballissimo on September 15, 2015, 09:04:48 PM
chrisfrancia,
"3. Should I shoot raw 1280x720 and then upscale to 1080?"
Yes, but you need to bear in mind that with 720p image will be cropped at the edges as well as the 1080p refer to 720p

"5. Bonus scenerio: would 1280x720 raw have less noise in a 720p export or would an h264 downscaled to 720p have less noise"
RAW-video has greater clarity and even increased 720 to 1080 look much better than if the record in 1080 at h264

All you need for this - big and fast SD-card
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: crirus on September 16, 2015, 03:52:26 PM
Hello Nickfreak,

any chance to look into option that will limit Auto Iso range to set value eg 1600?

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on September 16, 2015, 04:20:59 PM
Did you try out the autoexpo module already? Does that suit your needs?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on September 16, 2015, 04:45:45 PM
Chrisfrancia

"So what would give me the cleanest image at lets say 1600 iso to start"
H264 All-I compression is what you will want, with a flat picture style, that will max. out at ISO 1600.  Process in post with log/colour correction.

RAW video depending on your camera will likely have hot pixels starting at ISO 800.  You can process in post, but the longer
the clip runs the more they appear.  Shadow noise in low light may be a problem so ISO 400 is a safe max.
Even with RAW I use a flat picture style, just to capture more DR in the footage.  Cinestyle is OK if you use their LUT.  There are others.
There is an entire ETTR approach but you really need to verify how many stops (1/3rd stop is commonly stated).  I prefer to use zebras at 1% with a flat pic style. 

As for resolution, I have a lot of posts on the specifics.  Check on my backposts.
720p 24fps is continuous raw.  1600 @ 2.35 24fps, is probably the most useful for up. res. as it runs for about 60s with a 50MB/s+ write card speed.

As for the person who enquired about 10 or 12 bit raw video.
ML gets 14 bit raw, by not reprocessing the sensor data. It would be more difficult/slower to get lower raw bits.
I would suggest anyone who wants 12bit raw up to 4k at 16:9, aps-c sensor, global shutter, look at the BMD ursa mini, starting $3k.
The 5DMk2 can get you 14bit raw, FF sensor, at [email protected] 24 fps, for about $1k. You can also push the ISO higher for low light.





Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Strikefox on September 16, 2015, 05:08:28 PM
Quote from: ShootMeAlready on September 16, 2015, 04:45:45 PM

As for the person who enquired about 10 or 12 bit raw video.
ML gets 14 bit raw, by not reprocessing the sensor data. It would be more difficult to get lower raw bits.
I would suggest anyone who wants 12bit raw up to 4k at 16:9, global shutter, look at the BMD ursa mini, starting $3k.
The 5DMk2 can get you 14bit raw at [email protected] 24 fps, for about $1k.


@ShootMeAlready
Thanks, but for low- or nobudget indiefilmers it would have been a nice option. Reprocessing would of course bring several problems with it plus the coding itself ...
Maybe another option would be a Blackmagic Micro Cinema Camera or Pocket Camera...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: PrasadVedvikhyat on September 16, 2015, 09:39:19 PM
Quote from: ShootMeAlready on September 16, 2015, 04:45:45 PM

Even with RAW I use a flat picture style, just to capture more DR in the footage.  Cinestyle is OK if you use their LUT.  There are others.



RAW video means unprocessed raw data captured by the sensor and that means no picture style is baked in it. So it doesn't matter what picture style you have selected. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: gsanchez922 on September 17, 2015, 07:13:53 AM
Quote from: Strikefox on September 16, 2015, 05:08:28 PM
@ShootMeAlready
Thanks, but for low- or nobudget indiefilmers it would have been a nice option. Reprocessing would of course bring several problems with it plus the coding itself ...
Maybe another option would be a Blackmagic Micro Cinema Camera or Pocket Camera...

I used with Auto, landscape and Tecnhicolor style and yes they look different if you try to do Cinemastyle you can use Tecnhicolor S-cuver or MARVE's style and you will have more DR and all the color corrections will be more easy
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on September 17, 2015, 04:23:02 PM
Prasad
"RAW video means unprocessed raw data captured by the sensor and that means no picture style is baked in it. So it doesn't matter what picture style you have selected. Correct me if I'm wrong."

RAW is a set of data off the sensor.  So yes you can change picture style in post, correct that its not baked in but ...
If you want to shoot ETTR, you will want a flat pic style. This will help you to set exposure optimally.  By using a flat pic. style
you can push for more DR, by using a pic style that supports best ISO, f-stop, shutter and even focus.  These are baked in your footage. 
What looks good on a non-flat Canon pic. style will tend to less than optimal DR exposure settings (possibly focus).  If in doubt do your own comparison to see the difference.   

The only caveat I have is that when you are shooting low DR subjects, like mist or fog, in those types of subjects you will probably benefit from a contrasty pic style.  With a flat pic style, it would lesson the contrast, which is what you are trying to maximize in your exposure/focus.  OK same is true for low DR in terms of colour, so flat colour subjects probably are best shot with vivid colour pic styles.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: PrasadVedvikhyat on September 17, 2015, 06:39:12 PM
@ShootMeAlready

Thanks a lot for your reply. It's very informative and helpful. :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Ngcebo on September 17, 2015, 08:26:07 PM
Hi there people. Once again thank you all for making this possible by both testing the bugs and creating this firmware. I just wanted to know how I can download the beta version since there are no options for the 70D in the downloads section.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: bigorna on September 17, 2015, 09:20:06 PM
@nhcebo
You can download it from the first post in this thread.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: franknitty69 on September 20, 2015, 10:26:25 PM
Report: magiclantern-Nightly.2015Aug22.70D111B

MLV Sound: ok

Expo
- Auto ETTR: ok
- Expo Lock: ok
- Expo Presets: ok
- Dual ISO: ok
- Expo Override: ok
- ExpSim: ok
- Auto expo: ok

Overlay: ok

Movie
- REC Key: ok
- Gradual Expo: ok
- HDR video: ok
- Vignetting: ok
- Image Fine-tuning: ok
- Raw Video (MLV): ok
- Raw video: ok
- Movie Crop Mode: ok
- Movie Tweaks: ok

Shoot
- advanced bracket: ok
- intervalometer: ok
- post deflicker: ok
- bulb timer: ok
- audio remoteshot: ok *can threshold be increased another 10db? 15-20 was still very sensitive
- motion detect: ok
- silent picture: ok
- mirror lockup: ok
- flash tweaks: ok
- shoot preferences: ok

Focus: ok

Display: ok

Prefs: ok

Notes
- install and uninstall was super easy
- if using the set button for custom controls, disable it if you intend on using set for ML functions (Auto ETTR, etc).
- after a battery change, several modules were un-loaded and the module menu disappeared. i had to restore the default config to get the module menu back so that i could re-load them.
- when in the ML menu, pressing the shutter button would bring up the canon q menu and then show live view. for me the q menu was in the picture style menu.

i am in love with Magic Lantern! i purchased a T5i 2 years ago and immediately installed ML and was blown away. unfortunately i needed to upgrade to the 70D and was so sad that ML wasn't available at the time. i didn't even know alpha was available in january because i wasn't following the forum. i will never use a camera again unless it has ML on it. A big, big, big thank you to the devs making this happen.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: chrisfrancia on September 20, 2015, 10:55:47 PM
QuoteNotes
- install and uninstall was super easy
- if using the set button for custom controls, disable it if you intend on using set for ML functions (Auto ETTR, etc).
- after a battery change, several modules were un-loaded and the module menu disappeared. i had to restore the default config to get the module menu back so that i could re-load them.
- when in the ML menu, pressing the shutter button would bring up the canon q menu and then show live view. for me the q menu was in the picture style menu.

i am in love with Magic Lantern! i purchased a T5i 2 years ago and immediately installed ML and was blown away. unfortunately i needed to upgrade to the 70D and was so sad that ML wasn't available at the time. i didn't even know alpha was available in january because i wasn't following the forum. i will never use a camera again unless it has ML on it. A big, big, big thank you to the devs making this happen.

Did you turn off camera before changing battery?

Also when pressing the shutter button happens likely because it is set to start metering at half press, this bring you out of even normal canon menus
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: franknitty69 on September 21, 2015, 02:55:22 PM
yes i powered the camera off. waited for sd card activity to stop/sensor clean and removed the battery. i've tried other battery swaps, but i can't seem to replicate. maybe a fluke?

that's good to know about the shutter half press, i'm using back button focus custom controls. it's just a visual thing, doesn't affect ML performance at all.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: idoj on September 22, 2015, 07:30:36 AM
hallo everyone, i never mounted ML on my 70D because i'm a bit afraid. does it tend to overheat when ML is on?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on September 22, 2015, 06:09:46 PM
                  Idoj

        Mine never has -- But I don't shoot RAW Video so have no experience in that area.

                                                                                            ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: rsline on September 23, 2015, 07:59:10 AM
When there is a final version Magic Lantern for Canon 70D?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on September 23, 2015, 08:08:06 AM
No, and don't hold your breath for it. Devs changed development model to some kind of rolling release (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_release) years ago. Expect 70D's integration into nightly builds instead.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on September 23, 2015, 04:27:35 PM
Which is even better anyway! [emoji6]
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: jkruser on September 24, 2015, 03:35:49 AM
Nitfreak, first thanks for the hard work, I haven't posted but have been tinkering with the firmware since one of the earlier Alphas.

After avoiding another hobby interest, I have finally been sucked into contributing and am working on some minor feature enhancements (non 70D specific).  I am currently working out of the Unified branch, but only have a 70D so I will probably make a fork of it as well to test changes.

I don't want to be the guy asking for dates(they really aren't relevant), but wanted to know your thoughts on merging with the nightly builds.  Are you hoping to "finalize" the 70D branch and get most or all features working 100% before committing, or to stabilize the core features and merge earlier knowing that additional work is needed?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: briandmiller on September 24, 2015, 03:24:15 PM
If I want to use two different SD cards both with the same version of ML on them do I need to unload and reload ML when I switch between the cards?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: laci.szebeni on September 24, 2015, 03:25:33 PM
Quote from: briandmiller on September 24, 2015, 03:24:15 PM
If I want to use two different SD cards both with the same version of ML on them do I need to unload and reload ML when I switch between the cards?
No, that would be crazy..
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: MattNoir on September 27, 2015, 10:53:28 PM
Hello guys...today my 70D just died. I was shooting in dog shelter today and everything worked just fine. About 7 hour later I wanted to make photo of nice night sky and it just did not turn on at all...I tried All 3 batteries, turn it on without memory card, without lens or with other lens. Nothing. Only One beep of red LED when I plugged battery in and closed door. Otherwise nothing. Viewfinder turns brighter when I plug battery in, so juice is there.
I don't know if it is because of ML, but I doubt it, because I was using it since alpha 3 I guess, but be careful please. Mine was less than year old, so if it won't start till morning, I am calling warranty service...and in a week I am shooting wedding, very great :/



UPDATE: This morning I managed it to run. Looks like the card is damaged or something, because it started only without the card (which is weird, because in the evening it didn't start even without card). I will look at card today, format it and try with and without ML
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Canniballissimo on September 28, 2015, 06:57:11 PM
MattNoir, good news! I followed your situation with excitement
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: dmilligan on September 28, 2015, 10:21:20 PM
You must always take the card AND the battery out each attempt. If the camera crashes, the power switch has no effect, you have to take the battery out. Most people don't realize that the power switch is not really a power switch, it's just a button like any other button. If the camera is locked up, toggling it has no effect.

You probably tried removing the card and powering on without actually removing/replacing the battery.

IMO, this is a poor design on Canon's part. If they were going to make it operate like a button (which it does), they should have actually made it a button. Making it a switch, makes people think that it operates like a switch (off means off and on means on), which it does not (off means "request off" and on means "request on").
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Wiggierip on September 29, 2015, 08:23:16 AM
When shooting with a REC-picture style on,  I noticed my camera doesn't switch to the REC-picture style the first time recording after the camera has been turned off. From the second clip on it will switch to it just fine. Has anyone else noticed this?
Sorry if it has been mentioned before.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: MattNoir on September 29, 2015, 07:16:28 PM
dmilligan - I tried every possible combination of turning on/off camera, with or without card. I couldn't afford to fail in this.

Also I found out that somebody has been messing with that card, probably friend of mine. Because ML folder was not there. After reformatting (slow format, just to be sure) it works fine. But either way I am gonna sell it, already bought faster card.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: dmilligan on September 30, 2015, 03:31:32 AM
Quote from: MattNoir on September 29, 2015, 07:16:28 PM
dmilligan - I tried every possible combination of turning on/off camera, with or without card. I couldn't afford to fail in this.
It makes no difference turning the camera on/off (like I said, the power switch is not really a power switch, at least not on a hardware level, it is just a 'software button'). You must do exactly this: remove card, remove battery, replace battery, turn camera on.

Deleting ML files from a SD card that is 'bootable' will result in the camera crashing (it's actually the Canon firmware's bootloader that is crashing). If this happens you have to remove the card, then the battery. The on/off switch has no effect. This is what happened to you.

Once you reformatted the card, it's no longer bootable, so the Canon bootloader does not crash if ML files are missing, and your camera will startup normally.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on September 30, 2015, 05:01:44 AM
Quote from: Wiggierip on September 29, 2015, 08:23:16 AM
When shooting with a REC-picture style on,  I noticed my camera doesn't switch to the REC-picture style the first time recording after the camera has been turned off. From the second clip on it will switch to it just fine. Has anyone else noticed this?
Sorry if it has been mentioned before.
Hi @Wiggierip, yep I have had the exact same results throughout the alphas and beta which I noted earlier but may have been missed.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on October 01, 2015, 01:44:52 AM
                  @Wiggierip & TechnoPilot

          What the heck is this "REC-picture style" that you guys are talking about?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on October 01, 2015, 05:28:39 AM
          Never mind I found it. Can someone Please update the ML User Guide, It's dang near as old as the hills.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nycpete on October 01, 2015, 05:57:19 PM
Hello folks -- longtime lurker here.  Thanks to @nikfreak, @walter_schulz and all others who make this forum incredible.

Please help -- I've scoured the forum and user guide and can't find a solution to my issue --

I've installed on my 2015 model 70D the (Beta-1 / 22th Aug) for 70D.111B, with no previous ML installation, and it seemed to install fine -- but my ML menu is missing some significant features -- Audio and MLV at the very least.  These seem to have been re-enabled at least since Alpha-7b "ICEMAN".  Pic of my ML menu here: http://postimg.org/image/5i2bs3dgp/ (http://postimg.org/image/5i2bs3dgp/) and my build info here:  http://postimg.org/image/dxxonh6gb/ (http://postimg.org/image/dxxonh6gb/)

Many thanks and my apologies if I am missing something obvious, since as a newb this is probably something I am doing wrong.

Peter

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on October 01, 2015, 06:27:39 PM
                @nycpete

       You need to turn the Modules On
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nycpete on October 01, 2015, 07:46:37 PM
[facepalm] Thank you OlRivrRat. Sorry for the interruption to all.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Cyberiarvo on October 02, 2015, 05:52:41 AM
Hi Guys, im new on magic lantern.. I just installed it last night.. Can someone help me on the settings i need to turn on. I try to record on MLV but i dont know how to use the file, then i try raw and the noise is so bad.

Please guide my as youtube dont have the tutorial.

Thnk you so much
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 02, 2015, 06:22:58 AM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=54
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: pbenco on October 02, 2015, 05:26:59 PM
Hello,
I try to install ML on my 70d. What's happened is very confusing:
i need some help i guess ;-)
best
     Ben, still not desperate, but quite anxious...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on October 03, 2015, 12:21:10 AM
pbenco - did you install the ml firmware?  you need to put the camera in manual mode and select update firmware in the camera menu with the ml files on the card.  follow the instructions.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: pbenco on October 03, 2015, 02:42:19 PM
Dear aedipuss
Thanks for your quick reply ;D. I try to get access to my menu, but nothing occurs, as i have a black screen and no idea of what menu i have.
I have try a new zip archive, for both A&B, and format the card between each try, but when i turn to M as manual, and power up the 70D, i get red reading led, and nothing append.
I'm stuck!
   Ben
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 03, 2015, 04:32:54 PM
Sorry, your description lacks some details.

0. Remove card and battery. Insert battery.
1. Format card in cardreader.
2. Copy extracted files and ML directory to card.
3. Insert card into cam and startup cam.
4. Run firmware upgrade.
5. After success message turn off cam and restart
6. Access ML menu by pressing Trashcan button.

If you get stuck please report back at which step error occurred and what happens with the camera (LED status, LCD status).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on October 03, 2015, 04:36:00 PM
take the card and battery out.  reformat the card in a reader attached to your computer to clean everything off.   replace battery and start without a card.  camera should come on say no card then start after a minute.  turn it off insert card and turn on. go to canon menu and reformat card with a check in low level.  if camera turns on ok without a card but still doesn't work with that card, it's time to buy a new card as that one's bad.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: joashanghai on October 04, 2015, 04:30:44 AM
Sorry that  I am using this reply feature to report a so called bug but I cannot find out how to post here on the forum.

I installed  ML 111A version on my Canon 70D and got besides that the menu switches off  after a few second as main bug that the ISO settings are changing randomly so one is recording with an aperture which is changing randomly. And this with a fixed ISO setting. For instance I set ISO to 100 and suddenly it is 800 and back to 100.

I tried out also the Raw feature and no surprise the recording stopped after 5 seconds or so. With file sizes around 80mb/s it is anyways not usable for 2K.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on October 06, 2015, 02:58:24 AM
Ok, something I dont check that often, but did last night.
The 70D clean outs.  If you plug in an HDMI cable the LCD goes blank. 
But if you plug in a usb cable, and use a PC/EOS utility or Android/DSLR Controller app, you can still control the camera and see its picture.
The magic lantern feature, is clear overlays, set it to "always".
Now you can live stream HDMI with your 70D (or even your rebel series). 
The part I only recently realized is that HDMI stream is 4:2:2 compression!  H264 is only 4:2:0.
However Canon had to lame the 70D because its not a XD series, so it shoots less less than 1080p.
The ML wiki states: http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/HDMI_Output
" HDMI output from the Canon HDMI is limited to 1620x1080 (3:2) while the camera is not recording.
This requires the user to crop the footage from the external recorder to 1620x910 (16:9) and
then resize it to either 1280x720 (79%) or 1920x1080 (119%)."
Yes it works in Aug-22 release. 
Next I am going to try if you shoot 720p to see if the HDMI out is 720p (no crop required?).
Really this is just for live streaming, but a 720p is very OK for internet.

 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aGill on October 09, 2015, 06:59:21 PM
"ISO range" setting (in Auto exposure module) works only in photo mode.
Can this work also in movie mode?
By default in movie mode Canon set 6400 ISO max, no matter your settings for max ISO range are. Would be great to shoot in AUTO ISO with a max range at 1600!!
See also CRIRUS's reply #1776
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: javier.martinezyanez on October 09, 2015, 10:49:43 PM
How to selesct raw video ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 09, 2015, 11:00:51 PM
Modules tab -> MLV_REC.mo
Restart
Movie tab
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Thobias on October 09, 2015, 11:35:32 PM
I'm new in ML but already impressed... It is incredible, what can be done with code! Actually it was my final decision to buy Canon 70D because of this piece of software. However I have few questions...

- H.264 bitrate options is disabled, is it permanent?
- 70D SD card write limit is about 41 MB/s, so my 95 MB/s card is useless I guess
- It would be nice, to have for preview image options that show me on display whole picture after take it + after XY seconds, zoom on 100% to AF point. Is it somehow possible to set this automatically or at least allow to zoom picture immediately after taking it? Now I have to take picture, let 2 sec preview, press play, zoom to picture, close preview... Very frustrating.
- Is it possible to have in custom cropmark images (bmp) semitransparency? PNG is not supported I guess.
- Temperature is in RAW units, what should be maximum safe value for 70D? Sometimes I have about 212 RAW units of temperature.
- Is it possible to show actual time in LV?
- Any plans for updates?

Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: dmilligan on October 10, 2015, 02:46:50 AM
Having a fast card for downloading to computer is still useful.

Semitransparent black is possible in the bitmap overlay buffer.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on October 10, 2015, 02:31:00 PM
OK is there a way to save the ML settings,
- global draw = off
- arrows = off
- clear overlays = always
such that when you power off and restart they stay off until you
go back in via the trashcan. Right now they dont stay off after power off/on.
This is pretty useful for streaming.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on October 10, 2015, 04:18:26 PM
save them as a sort of preset?  all settings on my 70d stay the same after power off and on including global draw, and clear overlays. if they were set off they start off on power on.   not sure what arrows is?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 10, 2015, 05:01:10 PM
Quote from: aedipuss on October 10, 2015, 04:18:26 PMsave them as a sort of preset?
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8499
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: carlos787 on October 12, 2015, 06:02:03 PM
Hey guys, just wanted to share a little video I made thanks to this awesome tool the developers have provided (Nikfreak and team). As always your work is very much appreciated, keep it up.
  8)
https://youtu.be/8aQoTflHwdE
Title: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 12, 2015, 07:46:49 PM
Incredible stuff, @carlos787!

Impressive composures along with decent colors.

I was just there earlier this year visiting old town San Juan and definitely had a great time.

Mind sharing us the specs? Settings used in ML as well as Canon and Post workflow?

Also which glass did you use and the closing shot came out quite useful especially at high ISO as it seems.

If so, which ISO did you use?

Thanks for sharing us a beautiful island.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: miramez on October 13, 2015, 10:04:57 PM
Hi people!

I don´t know how to check if my 70D is 70D.111A or 70D.111B.
Where do I see this information? I tried in the botton of camera. no information there.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 13, 2015, 10:08:47 PM
You won't find this info and you don't have to. Download version A and try to install it. If it fails install B.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: miramez on October 13, 2015, 10:16:26 PM
Walter, which one is up to date (latest) version? sorry, my english is basic!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 13, 2015, 10:27:28 PM
Read the title of this thread ...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: miramez on October 13, 2015, 11:02:44 PM
Walter, i´m just looking for a help without irony! I´m newer!

So, i understand this:

ML Beta = 70D.111.B
ML Alpha = 70D.111.A

Am I right?

You said me to install first A instead B.

I JUST need to know which one is newer/latest version (B or A)?
Just it!


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 13, 2015, 11:14:26 PM
Quote from: miramez on October 13, 2015, 11:02:44 PM
Walter, i´m just looking for a help without irony!

Good luck, then!
Read first post of this thread, you got it all wrong.
"Allthough showing Version 1.1.1 in menu some camera dumps showed a different revision. Therefore I had to port ML twice to 70D (70D.111A / 70D.111B)"
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: miramez on October 13, 2015, 11:40:45 PM
I keep not understand anything. Congratulations for developing ML which is very interesting. However, in terms of communication/organization i didnt like. I think ML need to launch a simple and objective/clean website for "non nerds" like me, with simple and objective texts and download button.
I came here to find help to install/avoid mistakes and in order to do my first job with ML that will happens in this saturday. but the forum/communication here is very advanced for me. Infomartion through the threads are not clean for me. I will try to find help with blogs around the web.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on October 13, 2015, 11:57:30 PM
Quote from: miramez on October 13, 2015, 11:40:45 PM
I keep not understand anything. Congratulations for developing ML which is very interesting. However, in terms of communication/organization i didnt like. I think ML need to launch a simple and objective/clean website for "non nerds" like me, with simple and objective texts and download button.
I came here to find help to install/avoid mistakes and in order to do my first job with ML that will happens in this saturday. but the forum/communication here is very advanced for me. Infomartion through the threads are not clean for me. I will try to find help with blogs around the web.
Miramez, please use translation software if you are having trouble as it is clearly explained in English.

Both versions, A & B are the newest.  There are two because there are two versions of the Canon 70D.  This cannot be found in the Canon menu; try installing version A first and if it fails stating you have the wrong version, just download and install B.

ML being a hack of the Canon firmware it really cannot be made easier without negating the fact that this IS A HACK.  This is not something that you should be doing to your Canon camera if you are not comfortable with at least understanding some of the technical nature, as it still does pose a slight risk and always will.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: miramez on October 14, 2015, 12:18:41 AM
Thanks, TechnoPilot!

I found a good video on youtube showing how to install.
Now my doubt is regard to these options that he showed here:

1. Does it needs to turn on all these options?
(http://www.thalisvalle.com/images/ml.jpg)

2. In case of not activating all them, ML will not work?

3. For exemple, I want initially to use ZEBRA, FOCUS PEAKING, LV DIGIC PEAKING, VECTOR SCOPE, VIDEO HACK BITRATE, TIMELAPSE. Which one must I active to use these features?

4. Another thing I noticed is that is not possible to copy the ML files into SD Card through USB cable. At least I cant here. Is needed to use a SD Card reader in PC instead direct with usb cable?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on October 14, 2015, 08:02:22 AM


Quote from: miramez on October 14, 2015, 12:18:41 AM
Thanks, TechnoPilot!

I found a good video on youtube showing how to install.
Now my doubt is regard to these options that he showed here:

1. Does it needs to turn on all these options?
(http://www.thalisvalle.com/images/ml.jpg)

2. In case of not activating all them, ML will not work?

3. For exemple, I want initially to use ZEBRA, FOCUS PEAKING, LV DIGIC PEAKING, VECTOR SCOPE, VIDEO HACK BITRATE, TIMELAPSE. Which one must I active to use these features?

4. Another thing I noticed is that is not possible to copy the ML files into SD Card through USB cable. At least I cant here. Is needed to use a SD Card reader in PC instead direct with usb cable?

Turn all of them on, then reboot the camera (switch off, then back on again).  There is no harm having them all turned on in this case.  After the reboot, you will be able to select those options in their associated menu to display on the ML overlay screen.

No, you cannot use the camera with a USB cable to transfer the ML files, the camera mounts to the computer as a digital camera USB device, the card instead needs to be mounted as a mass storage device to transfer the files.  Remove the card from the camera and use a card reader instead, it is the safer option anyways.

Note that with ML, you should always wait to ensure that the card activity light is off before ejecting the card from the camera after opening the SD card door.  It is a good practice to help prevent corrupting your SD card anyways, but is especially important with ML installed.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on October 14, 2015, 08:32:18 AM
      Miramex

   I'm hopeful that by now You already have ML Up&Running on Your 70D & that You have been successful in brushing away some of

the fog that surrounds it.

   Pretty much all You need to know, to get started, is in the 1st Post of this thread but there are some things that can certainly be

cause for a bit of confusion. There seem to be 2 Rev's of firmware on the 70D that Canon has, for some reason, chosen to keep covered up

by 1 Firmware# 111. The Wizards @ ML were well under way Dev'ing ML for the Youngest Rev' of the 70D when the Older Rev' came to

light so they decided to call the WizWare that they were working on 70D_111A & when it came time to build ML WizWare for the Older

Rev' 70Ds it was named 70D_111B (Probably would have been much less confusing to name them 111N or Y for Newer or Younger &

111O for Older or Original) but A for the Newer & B for the Older is what we are stuck with.

   So ~ On the 22nd (not the 22th) of Aug, NikFreak posted ML Beta-1 for 70D.111A / 70D.111B & again, I'm guessing & hoping that

You have already figured out which 1 You & Your 70D needs.

   As for the Modules ~ Just Load whichever 1s You think You may need or Just Load them all (except for that Arkanoid.mo ~ Does

anyone Load that 1).

   So the bottom line is, if You have more questions, ask away, someone Should eventually attempt to provide a Civil answer ~ I'm

guessing that the info that TechnoPilot has provided was helpful for You.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB

   
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: dynalmadman on October 15, 2015, 05:54:12 AM
Brand new. Interested in Time Lapse.  Here is my first attempt, and I just want to know if the problem is related to ML, or the lens, or the camera or something else entirely.

Canon 70D, Tamron 24-70, manual focus, stabilization off. Tripod mounted, most all settings set to manual. ML intervalometer set to 3 sec.

https://flic.kr/p/zvszQ5

In alternate frames, the camera seems to jump up and down, just a little. Every other frame, all odd numbered frames seem to be recorded at a few pixels higher than the even numbered frames. The camera is mounted to tripod, and very steady.  Seems like some sort of software adjustment happening with the capture? The video goes very quickly, so it is hard to see.  I made a PDF with 10 sequential frames, but I don't know how to share a PDF file.

Here is a second export using only the odd numbered frames. Steady as a rock.  Weird.

https://flic.kr/p/zvwti9

Anyway, I don't think it is ML, but thought I would ask here first.

Thank you, love this software!
Michael
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Thobias on October 15, 2015, 05:59:04 PM
LV automatically get back when I'm in ML menu. It's in bugs log, but is there any workaround?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on October 15, 2015, 06:00:04 PM
             Dynalmadman

       Probably not ML ~ Have you tried it with a different lens?

                                                          ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on October 15, 2015, 06:07:10 PM
                        Thobias

         It's just 1 of the Little Inconveniences we learn to live with. It's noted in "What's Not Working" in the 1st Post of this thread.

No Work Around, but more like a Work With ~ Keep Activity Going in ML Menu while in LV & Movie, or Switch to Stills & make Your

Menu Changes then switch back to LV or Movie.


                                                                                                                                          ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Thobias on October 15, 2015, 08:51:53 PM
OK, thanks for answer.

I find another bug (?). I use external mic (Zoom H1-V2) and MLV_sound files are out of sync, randomly cut... I cant even find timecode in that wav files. Is it known?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: SethBB on October 16, 2015, 02:11:14 AM
New to ML on the 70D, but a long-time user of ML on the 60D.

Add to "Not working" list: (?)
Audio Menu (microphone icon)
Includes gain, source, headphone monitoring, and lots more.

Yes, I've enabled the mlv_sound module - this does turn on the audio menu, but, the only item available is sound for mlv recording.

Specifically what I'm looking for is the Headphone Mon. setting that allows monitoring sound from the USB jack.

Or, have I missed some obvious method to turn on the audio menu, like somehow adding a module to the list, then turning it on...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: chrisfrancia on October 16, 2015, 04:35:22 AM
If i have a 6D with ML on the SD card and I put this card into my 70D what will happen?

What about if i take my 70D with ML on the SDcard and put this card into the 6D?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on October 16, 2015, 05:18:58 AM
Quote from: dynalmadman on October 15, 2015, 05:54:12 AM
Brand new. Interested in Time Lapse.  Here is my first attempt, and I just want to know if the problem is related to ML, or the lens, or the camera or something else entirely.

Canon 70D, Tamron 24-70, manual focus, stabilization off. Tripod mounted, most all settings set to manual. ML intervalometer set to 3 sec.

https://flic.kr/p/zvszQ5

In alternate frames, the camera seems to jump up and down, just a little. Every other frame, all odd numbered frames seem to be recorded at a few pixels higher than the even numbered frames. The camera is mounted to tripod, and very steady.  Seems like some sort of software adjustment happening with the capture? The video goes very quickly, so it is hard to see.  I made a PDF with 10 sequential frames, but I don't know how to share a PDF file.

Here is a second export using only the odd numbered frames. Steady as a rock.  Weird.

https://flic.kr/p/zvwti9

Anyway, I don't think it is ML, but thought I would ask here first.

Thank you, love this software!
Michael

Hi dynalmadman, and welcome!  Thanks for the videos; it helps immensely to see the issue first hand.  Can you update your signature with which version you are running (A or B)?  This helps with troubleshooting the issue.  Can someone else (anyone?) confirm this scenario on another camera, please?  It seems way too coincidental that it is precisely the same number of horizontal lines and precisely every other shot, for it to be hardware related (i.e. lens). 
Thanks!!
Title: Chaning cards between different cam types
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 16, 2015, 05:22:15 AM
@chrisfrancia:
If the cam is not enabled for ML (bootflag not set):
Nothing will happen. Canon menu will start up and you are on plain Canon firmware.

If the cam is enabled for ML:
Either cam won't start up (old builds) or an error message will be seen.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: chrisfrancia on October 16, 2015, 05:45:23 AM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on October 16, 2015, 05:22:15 AM
@chrisfrancia:
If the cam is not enabled for ML (bootflag not set):
Nothing will happen. Canon menu will start up and you are on plain Canon firmware.

If the cam is enabled for ML:
Either cam won't start up (old builds) or an error message will be seen.

Thanks for your reply! So if the cam is ml enabled, it isnt the end of the world if this is accidentally done? Wont brick cam?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on October 16, 2015, 06:09:36 AM
sethBB - from the user ML manual "Magic Lantern has no audio controls for Canon 600D/T3i and newer cameras. You can disable AGC from Canon menus though."
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: carlos787 on October 16, 2015, 06:20:09 AM
To DeafEyeJedi,
Thanks for watching and liking the video. Sorry I did not answer sooner, did not see the post.
If I can remember in camera ML settings are: aspect 2.35, recorded at highest res possible in normal mode (no sensor crop) 30 fps, some close up shots are in sensor crop mode 1920×880 or something like that, lens used canon 50mm f1.8 no image stabilization, used lens aperture mostly to control exposure and keep down noise except for the last shot. On PC: Convert to dng by way of mlv converter, into resolve for minor white clip black clip adjustments, color is mostly out of camera which I find its beautiful even though I leave auto white balance on in camera and sometimes the shots are a bit off (no WB adjustment), export uncompressed to premiere, unsharp mask technique, lumetri color adjustment (saturation vibrance faded film), and export as 4k h.264 (dont ask me why but I find youtube gives me better results when I watch on my mobile at 1080p). No Im not a professional in any way, no I mostly dont know what Im doing most of the time but I love shooting videos around the island and ML has provided me the awesome tools to better my productions. Hope this helps, and Im also open to suggestions. Thanks.
Last shot was shot at ISO 320, and no denoiser plugin was used.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: SethBB on October 16, 2015, 07:13:36 PM
aedipuss -

At http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/userguide#disable-agc it states:

"Manual audio controls.

This menu is not available on Canon 600D / T3i.

The 600D/T3i already has manual audio control, but right now it's not possible to change audio settings from Magic Lantern. You can only use audio meters during recording."

I definitely have the audio menu functionality on ML on a 60D, a much newer camera than the T3i. Don't you have it on your 60D as well?

Oh, I see - it says that in the "Known issues" section. Well, that's contradicted further down, but more importantly, it does work on later cameras.

I remain hopeful that this set of audio features will be added for the 70D... Thanks to all who've contributed to the 70D port!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 16, 2015, 07:42:36 PM
https://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/features
Wiki covers v2.3. We're talking about Nightly Builds ...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on October 16, 2015, 11:02:47 PM
arrg 2.3 vs. nightly...   is there even a 2.3 anymore?  anyway the 60d/7d seem to have been the end of the audio features, not even the mighty 5d3 has them.  i really like that they are usable in my 60d and use it's headphone monitoring with an external rode mic all the time when shooting video.
Title: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 17, 2015, 04:57:40 AM
Dude enough with this 2.3 nonsense... Go nightlies or go home!

At least stay on topic, please?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on October 17, 2015, 09:26:39 PM
speaking of on topic. has anyone heard from nikfreak lately?  or the other dev that was going to fork the project?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on October 17, 2015, 09:31:19 PM
woot. what's going on?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: SethBB on October 17, 2015, 09:43:27 PM
Sorry to those who think talk of 2.3 is a distraction - it's just my previous point of reference for what ML can do (on a 60D). Which includes a great set of audio features!

Where can I go to find more on the features that are / are not part of the nightly builds? Here, I'm working through testing the 70D.111A features, and quickly discovered that sound isn't included. Are you saying that the Audio menu is, or isn't, on the list for development?

Yes, I'm a newbie to the nightlies. We all gotta' start somewhere.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 17, 2015, 09:48:32 PM
Downloads -> Download Nightly Builds -> Features
Same link as above.

And there is a new sound system in development but dormant right now.
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/branch/new-sound-system
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on October 18, 2015, 12:55:32 AM
hi nikfreak!  hadn't heard from you in a while.  any new toys coming for us to play with? :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on October 18, 2015, 01:57:21 AM
Btw all, I just rolled back to the last Alpha release to have some fun with the undercranking feature and honestly the banding really disappears when using a contrasty grade in camera.  It was almost unnoticeable at 2.5fps, 1/5th sec, ISO800, however as soon as I switched to Cinestyle the banding became super visible.  It definitely seems to come through with flat profiles, but is very usable with the proper colour settings up to some very decent ISOs.

Just wanted to provide my two cents from further testing if it helps at all, I know though that it is an old release.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on October 18, 2015, 08:04:40 AM
I will recheck fps on 70D once 100D has been released
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on October 18, 2015, 09:13:26 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on October 18, 2015, 08:04:40 AM
I will recheck fps on 70D once 100D has been released
No worries, just wanted to give you a heads up and cool to know actually, since I sold off my 100D to my mother to eventually upgrade to my 70D.

BTW, like we've talked about before Nikfreak, if there is anything we can do to help with the new audio module, please let me know as I'd love to help make this amazing improvement happen! :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: chunkygrooves on October 19, 2015, 01:32:57 PM
Sorry newbie question:

is there audio monitoring for ML on 70D - am I missing something? cant seem to find audio monitoring?

thanks

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 19, 2015, 02:06:47 PM
You may want to read some of the posts above ...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: gfo315 on October 20, 2015, 01:36:32 AM
Hey guys. I'm about to enter the magical world of magic lantern, and I just wanted to know if I'm doing it correctly, so I don't get any brick problems later.

Something that is a little bit messy for me is the serial issue - whenever I should download firmware A or B. I went seeking throughout the post pages, but I couldn't find any clarification over it. My camera's serial is 062022[...]. In some posts, people with a simmilar SN have not been able to finish the installation, even though I saw a guy from a video saying that it's compatible.

Could anyone give me some light please? Thanks a lot!
I hope I can share my knowledge later! :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 20, 2015, 03:16:25 AM
Simply install A version, if it works then great!

If not, then install B version and that's it!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Thobias on October 20, 2015, 10:52:38 PM
Please, can someone tell me, how to import to AE or Premiere or even open in PS exported DNG's from MLV files? Because somehow they are corrupted. Exported DNG's from RAW file are ok, but not from MLV. Also MLV sound is not sync, it's cut in the middle. So... NOT OK a guess or just me? I used MlRawViewer 1.3.3 an 1.4.3. for exporting DNG's.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: tlyonstlyons on October 21, 2015, 01:38:44 AM
Hi!

First, thanks for the good work on the Beta release. I used ML regularly on my old T2i but I sadly sat out with an SL1/100d. Glad to see 70d support.

But I had trouble 2 weeks ago on vacation. I installed version A on my 70d back in September; took perhaps ~1000 pictures but didn't really use the ML features much; turned on focus peaking and a few other things; took a few hundred more pictures over next week or so. I don't clearly recall the settings because of what happened next.

While shooting, first the AF stopped working; then the camera started beeping slowly but continuously. During this time I could still take stills and video. Then the shutter release went non-functional along with several other controls one by one. During this, I swapped lens, swapped batteries, power cycled, removed the battery and let the camera sit, tried other memory cards.

Finally, I reformatted my memory card in a PC and rebooted the camera. All was well and I have since taken several hundred more pictures and video over the last 2 weeks.


Two questions:
1. Huh? Has anyone seen something similar?
2. Is the August 22 the most recent ML? I am getting back in the ML saddle soon; I have been sitting it out hoping for an update.

Thanks,
Tim
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 21, 2015, 06:21:43 AM
@Thobias -- Have you tried MLVFS (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0MLVFS) with SmartImport2 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12422.0SmartImport2) in AE? Works well on OS X.

@tlyonstlyons -- Perhaps you could have tried resetting ML back to default if you wanted to keep ML on it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Thobias on October 21, 2015, 11:39:10 AM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on October 21, 2015, 06:21:43 AM
@Thobias -- Have you tried MLVFS (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0MLVFS) with SmartImport2 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12422.0SmartImport2) in AE? Works well on OS X.

Unfortunately it imports only wav, DNG's are basically invisible in explorer for Adobe products.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 21, 2015, 06:02:06 PM
Are you using the latest binaries?

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7139.msg154858#msg154858
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Thobias on October 22, 2015, 11:54:23 AM
I'm on Win10 64bit, this is just for Mac, right?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: dmilligan on October 22, 2015, 01:45:44 PM
@Thobias,

I already gave you an answer in the other thread, and I have stated this problem multiple times in this thread as well, as it is a common problem.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg155726#msg155726

ACR won't load the file simply b/c it's tagged as coming from a 70D. If you change the file to make it appear as though it is coming from some other camera, then ACR will load it (you can use exiftool (http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/) or even a simple hex editor to do this). This started happening when Adobe released a new version of ACR that added 70D support.

The reason that your DNGs from raw files work but ones from mlv don't is b/c the raw format has no camera metadata, so there is no camera tag in the DNG, and so ACR loads it just fine.

The reason that it worked before you installed Adobe DNG Converter is that the installer for DNG converter probably updated ACR to the latest version that has this issue with 70D DNGs.

If you ask me, this is really a problem with Adobe's software (it fails on perfectly valid input) and they should fix it. What good are 'open standards' like DNG if even the company that made the standard fails implement it correctly. Of course the probability that Adobe would fix something like this are slim to none.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Thobias on October 22, 2015, 02:02:10 PM
@ dmilligan: Thanks for clear answer! That helps me a lot because I though that problem is in my setting or some wired software installation combination. So I will wait for now. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: HeroDeh on October 22, 2015, 02:11:06 PM
Hi guys!
Sorry to bother you with those kind of newbie questions, but i've got a problem since i've reinstalled ML on my 70D, and i can't solve it or find any solution online.
The problem is pretty simple: whenever i select the 1080-24fps mode from the canon menu, the shutter value flickers a little bit (-/+1 value) and i cannot set any intermediate shutter value (like 1/48 for instance).
Yesterday, before i reinstalled the firmware, everything worked fine, i could manage every value in the right way, without any difficulties.
I spent the whole morning trying to figure out a solution, and, since i can't solve it, i guess i could use some help.
Thanks in advance for any help given!
Title: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 22, 2015, 04:11:45 PM
Try resetting ML settings and try again?

Or perhaps try using Shutter Fine Tune to get the exact shutter to 1/48th from 1/50th (if that's what you're trying to do?) otherwise I don't understand your issue to be honest.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on October 22, 2015, 04:37:50 PM
Quote from: dmilligan on October 22, 2015, 01:45:44 PM
If you ask me, this is really a problem with Adobe's software (it fails on perfectly valid input) and they should fix it. What good are 'open standards' like DNG if even the company that made the standard fails to implement it correctly. Of course the probability that Adobe would fix something like this are slim to none.

Just out of curiosity, how many people here have actually contacted Adobe to report this issue?  Honestly, they can't fix that which they don't know is a global issue.  I'm just as bad about this as the next guy/gal, but if we don't all report it, we really have no place complaining about Adobe's customer service and development model.  And if only one person reports this bug, it won't even register to them.  It has to be seen that it is affecting multiple customers.

That being said, let's all go and report it now, so we can be part of the solution. :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: HeroDeh on October 22, 2015, 05:22:04 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on October 22, 2015, 04:11:45 PM
Try resetting ML settings and try again?

Or perhaps try using Shutter Fine Tune to get the exact shutter to 1/48th from 1/50th (if that's what you're trying to do?) otherwise I don't understand your issue to be honest.

I'd make a video, but my phone camera quality isn't good enough to understand what's going on the 70D screen, so i'll try to explain it in a better way.
Whenever i select the 1080-24fps mode to record, in the ML exposition menu, the shutter value changes (for instance, if the shutter speed is set to 1/50, it costantly changes between the 49.99-50.04 range) without me doing nothing, and i can't select a limited range of values (i can't choose to put the shutter speed to 1/48 nor 1/45, and if i lower step from 1/50 is 1/42).
Yesterday, before reinstalling ML, everything worked fine; the shutter speed was stable, and i could choose between every value i needed to.

I tried to reload every module, to install ML again, and to format the SD, but the problem still persists.
I hope i've been clearer about explaining the issue.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 22, 2015, 05:32:22 PM
ML installation does change the camera's bootflag and not much more. If there is no ML enabled card inserted camera will startup plain vanilla Canon code.

You can change any ML enabled card to "plain vanilla" by formatting it using a cardreader.

If you want to remove cam's bootflag, too: Run ML installation once again and wait for timeout to remove cam's flag and card's boot ability.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Thobias on October 22, 2015, 05:37:40 PM
Quote from: JohnnyG_71 on October 22, 2015, 04:37:50 PM
Just out of curiosity, how many people here have actually contacted Adobe to report this issue?  Honestly, they can't fix that which they don't know is a global issue.  I'm just as bad about this as the next guy/gal, but if we don't all report it, we really have no place complaining about Adobe's customer service and development model.  And if only one person reports this bug, it won't even register to them.  It has to be seen that it is affecting multiple customers.

That being said, let's all go and report it now, so we can be part of the solution. :)
I'll report this "bug" to support soon.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: carlos787 on October 23, 2015, 04:54:29 AM
Hey guys just wanted to share a video from my last trip. They are NOT great takes but I enjoyed grading it. Let me know what you think about the colors.
https://youtu.be/JAhVKLZeKXc
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Tomax on October 23, 2015, 11:58:25 AM
Hallo Nikfreak!

Thanks for your incredible work so far!
Really nice thing to use on my 70D.

Will there be a Beta or any development in the next time?

Thomas
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Thobias on October 23, 2015, 01:42:31 PM
Quote from: Thobias on October 22, 2015, 05:37:40 PM
I'll report this "bug" to support soon.

http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/canon-70d-corrupted-exif-data-of-dng-files?rfm=1

There is report. Please, support me and help solve this problem. Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on October 23, 2015, 04:37:33 PM
Quote from: Thobias on October 23, 2015, 01:42:31 PM
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/canon-70d-corrupted-exif-data-of-dng-files?rfm=1

There is report. Please, support me and help solve this problem. Thanks.

Excellent work Thobias. 

@dmilligan  - can you and maybe others with more experience with this, click that link and contribute to the conversation to maybe help resolve this?

Fingers crossed! :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nakoda on October 24, 2015, 03:09:27 PM
Hi, all!!
Someone has release Alpha 7A? Where can I download? Particularly preferably 8th August: Alpha-7a2
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on October 24, 2015, 04:28:18 PM
                Nakoda

        Curious as to why you would want Alpha 7A2 8Aug as opposed to Alpha 7B Iceman 15aug which is available in 1st Post.

                                                                                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Thobias on October 25, 2015, 11:57:16 AM
I've tested RAW and old Cenon FD 35mm f/2.8 for very first time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu4aUDUZCEY). Just trying to get into work-flow and possibilities of this camera. Pro/cons of RAW and default h.264 are very specific, especially in post.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DavidRuben on October 25, 2015, 04:37:44 PM
Given this beta been available since January and had at least 9 months gestation since, when is it likely to be listed at main download page https://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/ (or at least have a link to this thread that others might discover the joys of ML for their 70D) ? I had previously seen a youtube video about the port being in progress and had vainly waited for it to appear on ML's main page until stumbled upon this post after a Google search.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 25, 2015, 05:07:17 PM
Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda be out into the Nightlies by the Holidays, if not next year.

Either way it stills works just as good.

Have you even tried?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 25, 2015, 05:21:51 PM
@DavidRuben: ML project/ports don't have or give time lines. See FAQ -> Troll Questions section.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: maxexcloo on October 26, 2015, 05:12:29 AM
Any chance of an updated build for the 70D with the movie restart patch? As I recall the last build still has the issue on my model.
Thanks for all the amazing work, love it!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 26, 2015, 06:39:39 AM
Quote from: maxexcloo on October 26, 2015, 05:12:29 AMAny chance [...]

Yes
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Thobias on October 26, 2015, 11:43:17 AM
Any chance to get in future possibility to change h.264 bitrate?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nakoda on October 26, 2015, 04:42:14 PM
OlRivrRat!!!
it's all because: in Alpha 7B Iceman 15aug:
Disable buggy focus features: Follow Focus, Focus Stacking, Rack Focus. [Trap focus is still there]
Disable non-working HDR Video and Gradual Exposure
Disable non-working Dual Iso support in movie mode

and

8th August: Alpha-7a2

    FPS-Override: You can slightly increase FPS now (results differ in PAL/NTSC and you should check 24p /30p / zoom modes, too)


that is, for me, saved all the most important and necessary functions
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: mbeck on October 26, 2015, 08:02:34 PM
Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the hard work! Great stuff.

A few questions about Clean HDMI out.

I am trying to use my 70D to capture to my Mac Via a Blackmagic Intensity Thunderbolt capture card.

It works, but I wonder if I can adjust the output at all.

I am getting a clean feed out of the camera, but the image is squeezed, and Interlaced.
Is there any way to get the image to fill the screen and not be squeezed? Can I change to 1080p or 720p?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: maxexcloo on October 27, 2015, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on October 26, 2015, 06:39:39 AM
Yes

I'm referencing this: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2358/
I'll attempt a build :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: pacoloco on October 27, 2015, 09:21:41 PM
hi everyone. I just discovered your forum...I installed ML last night and I like it a lot. I intend to use my 70D as a B camera to my C100 mk2. I read the entire 76 pages-promise, but I couldn't find anything on how to disable AF while using ML. I used AF a lot for video but I also like disabling it temporarily with a touch on the LCD screen so that once I capture focus it doesn't drift...and then re-enabling AF when needed...what button will do this while using ML? I can still choose where focus is on the screen by touching the LCD-that fine but I didn't see a way to disabling AF with a touch or a button. Sorry if I missed this in the middle of the 76 pages here.
thanks and amazing work...the intervalometer makes it easier to use now-I always forget to bring along the external intervalometer!
sincerely
Erick
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on October 27, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
      Paco

   Assuming you are meaning in MovieMode with ServoAF Enabled ~ Scroll Via the Info Button to any Display other than the ML Display & use

the AF On/Off as you would if you did not have ML Loaded. Otherwise, via the Custom Functions you can Dedicate the Button of Your Choice to be

an AF Lock Button.

                                          ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: pacoloco on October 28, 2015, 12:24:13 AM
OMG! of course...the info button... :o that's exactly what I forgot...
thanks...amazing what brilliant minds can do when they get together...on a forum!

E
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: laci.szebeni on October 28, 2015, 03:43:58 AM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on October 27, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
      Paco

   Assuming you are meaning in MovieMode with ServoAF Enabled ~ Scroll Via the Info Button to any Display other than the ML Display & use

the AF On/Off as you would if you did not have ML Loaded. Otherwise, via the Custom Functions you can Dedicate the Button of Your Choice to be

an AF Lock Button.

                                          ORR ~ DeanB
I like using the AF/MF switch on the lens barrel..
Title: Movie Restart not working
Post by: thatsnotmyname on October 28, 2015, 11:28:58 PM
Hi there!

I installed the ML Beta for the first time on my 70D, but I do have some experience with the firmware already with my 600D.
For a project next weekend I'll need to film for 3 hours, so I would like to use "Movie Restart".
I did just test this feature, but it doesn't seem to work so that recording stops at 29:59 and I do have to start manually again.

Is this a known problem?

Thank you in advance!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: maxexcloo on October 29, 2015, 12:35:50 AM
For anyone interested, linked is a build of Magic Lantern for the 70D (Model B) based on the last beta commit but with the recording restart bug patched.

Based on: Commit 2766da2 in 70D-Merge Branch
Patch applied: Commit 666d621 (https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/commits/666d6214456b1e183d3b7335f866d963e8ae7254?at=unified)

Built on Ubuntu 12.04 using the following guide:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14725.0

Build Download:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pv4a5r85j5dsd4o/magiclantern-Nightly.2015Oct28.70D111B.zip

Interesting learning experience for sure! I needed this build for a long running event I'm shooting, hope it's helpful to others also!

Thanks, Max.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on October 29, 2015, 01:35:24 AM
                      thatsnotmyname

           Yes ~ Read "What's not working:" in the 1st Post.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 29, 2015, 01:50:11 AM
Thanks for sharing @maxexcloo!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on October 29, 2015, 03:50:58 AM
      Maxexcloo

   Ran a test of your "2015Oct28.70D111B" & it did indeed ReStart @ 29:59. I set it to Rec & went to eat &

watch some TV & when I returned the 70D was Off & the Batt was Dead. The Cam' was the warmest I have ever

felt it get in the almost 2yrs I have had it, so that may be a concern. It Did Rec 67:58 of Vid before it quit.

                                                                                  ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: maxexcloo on October 29, 2015, 03:59:13 AM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on October 29, 2015, 03:50:58 AM
      Maxexcloo

   Ran a test of your "2015Oct28.70D111B" & it did indeed ReStart @ 29:59. I set it to Rec & went to eat &

watch some TV & when I returned the 70D was Off & the Batt was Dead. The Cam' was the warmest I have ever

felt it get in the almost 2yrs I have had it, so that may be a concern. It Did Rec 67:58 of Vid before it quit.

                                                                                  ORR ~ DeanB

It is literally the beta plus that single patch, not sure if it's good to record so long in general (would love some people to chime in, I have to record six hours on the weekend!)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 29, 2015, 04:24:18 AM
Maybe set powersave mode on to have live view turned off while recording. I've shot over 2 hours on a single battery with movie restart. Doesn't get as warm either.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on October 29, 2015, 04:38:38 AM
       Maxexcloo

   Warm Cam possibly PilotError ~ When I set the Cam up for test I was in a hurry & left it in P Mode with the

LensCap On so the ISO Most Likely Maxed Out. Ooooops!

                              ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: maxexcloo on October 29, 2015, 04:50:24 AM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on October 29, 2015, 04:38:38 AM
      Maxexcloo

   Warm Cam possibly PilotError ~ When I set the Cam up for test I was in a hurry & left it in P Mode with the

LensCap On so the ISO Most Likely Maxed Out. Ooooops!

                              ORR ~ DeanB

Ah okay, curious to see, I'll run some tests later!

Can you share how big the files are, what SD Card you're using and the file system of the cards? Would help me out :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on October 29, 2015, 05:06:16 AM
       Maxexcloo

   I use Transcend 90MB/s 600X Formatted XFat. Have 2 32GB & 1 64GB. Ran the test on 1 of the 32s.

Times   ~   18:09   11:50   18:08   11:51   8:00

File Sizes   ~   4.28GB   2.79GB   4.28GB   2.80GB   1.89GB

                   H264        30FPS        IPB

                  ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on October 29, 2015, 04:51:04 PM
   I Assume that everyone on this Forum is aware of this ~ But Just In Case there may be someone Who Is Not,

It Is Possible to have "Build Dedicated SDCards" so as to be able to Switch Quickly from 1 Build to Another if you

have a Need for some Function that may have been Disabled or is Unavailable in the Build you are using. I've been

doing this for quite some time ~ I have 3 SDs & have been using them as SteppingStones to New Builds & I now

have the Latest Beta (28Oct) on 1, Alpha7b (15Aug) on 1 & Alpha7a2 (08Aug) on 1.

   Hopefully, of course, once the Next GreatBeta is released it will contain all of the GoodStuff of those 3 & More

so that this SD Swapping will no longer be necessary.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: mcgillro on October 29, 2015, 09:00:57 PM
It's it getting close to stable beta now?  Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: mcgillro on October 29, 2015, 09:01:46 PM
Is it I mean?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: chrisfrancia on October 29, 2015, 09:25:10 PM
Quote from: pacoloco on October 28, 2015, 12:24:13 AM
OMG! of course...the info button... :o that's exactly what I forgot...
thanks...amazing what brilliant minds can do when they get together...on a forum!

E

You can also you the flash button to switch movie servo auto focus on and off quickly
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: thatsnotmyname on October 29, 2015, 11:07:57 PM
Quote from: maxexcloo on October 29, 2015, 12:35:50 AM
For anyone interested, linked is a build of Magic Lantern for the 70D (Model B) based on the last beta commit but with the recording restart bug patched.

Hi maxexcloo. Thanks for the fix, it seems to work fine! First test filming the stop watch of my iPad gave me a over 1:45 hrs of footage while the battery wasn't even at 100 % when I started.
Test run was at 1280 x 720 All-I 50 fps with powersave in live view enabled (display switched off).
I lost 1-1,5 secs every 29:59 mins when movie restart did its job. Is there any way to minimize that gap or even wiping it out completely?

Greetings!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: malow on October 30, 2015, 05:37:19 AM
Quote from: chrisfrancia on October 29, 2015, 09:25:10 PM
You can also you the flash button to switch movie servo auto focus on and off quickly
maaan, came her to find a shortcut for this... thanks!

i think i will glue something on that button, cause is too deep and hard to press while shooting ;)

custom function on buttons are only temporary focus disable, not permanent. the flash button is the one that did the trick ;)

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: maxexcloo on October 30, 2015, 07:08:38 AM
Quote from: chrisfrancia on October 29, 2015, 09:25:10 PM
You can also you the flash button to switch movie servo auto focus on and off quickly

I don't think so, I don't actually know anything about how it works, just made the build :P
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on October 30, 2015, 03:17:07 PM
So anyone know how likely
Dual ISO video is? or
Variable bit rate?

These two features, would probably improve video IQ the most.

And as for follow-up, when you select 720p from HDMI (for clean output streaming), regardless of canon aspect you select
it will output  as 3:2.  And if you want to use EOS utility, you can record with it, although I have not done it for any length of time, as I generally stream the HDMI.

There was a poster a page or so back asking about how to get clean outputs, just check on my recent posts and you will find your answer
how to set it up. 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on October 30, 2015, 04:45:07 PM
   I'm guessing that the MLWizards have already thought of & looked into this ~ but would there be a way

to use the "4GB File Size Restart Tricks" on the "30Min Restart" or Might there be a way to Fool the Cam' into

thinking that each "4GB File Size Restart" is an Actual Restart so that the 30Mark is never reached?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Aj6627 on November 03, 2015, 03:52:14 AM
I read the OP, but has anyone compiled a list of everything that's working and that isn't working in the latest build?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on November 03, 2015, 03:58:56 PM
If you run the camera for 30mins +, such that its the warmest youve ever felt,
I would suggest checking out Hot Pixels (HP) as time increases. 
It may be the H264 compression algorithm corrects some of this,
but I know RAW video it does not. I assume your card space fills up too fast to do long shoots
in RAW anyways.  HP are the bane of the 70D, IMHO. 
Probably the battery plugin attachment is needed, which means AC with a cord.

Ive shot longest when streaming HDMI, but so far Ive only done longer shoots this using a 600D (around 20min).
The 600D does not suffer from the same heat issues.


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: starbase64 on November 04, 2015, 09:37:27 AM
Hi,

someone can create a new build for model "a"?

regards

starbase64
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 04, 2015, 05:17:17 PM
      StarBase64

   I believe that most of us are under a correct impression the it is in progress.

When making requests for Fixes or Additions you need to be More Specific.

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: starbase64 on November 04, 2015, 06:31:48 PM
i mean this, but for model "a"

http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=1crd9t89tmbduijtl82ulhod37&topic=14309.msg156277#msg156277
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on November 04, 2015, 06:51:45 PM
I assume you didn't test it but "A" wasn't affected by that bug.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: starbase64 on November 04, 2015, 08:33:41 PM
@nikfreak

I thought it's a newer version available, as august.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 04, 2015, 10:24:49 PM
      StarBase64

   The latest "Full" Update that applied to Both "A" & "B" F'W'Versions was on 22Aug. The

adjustment that was made to that Beta on 29Oct by Maxexecloo was to make the "30MinRestart"

available on the "B" (Older) F'W's. The "A" (Newer) F'W's were already capable of "30MinRestart".

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on November 04, 2015, 10:50:24 PM
https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/commits/666d6214456b1e183d3b7335f866d963e8ae7254?at=unified
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Andori0803 on November 07, 2015, 07:29:57 PM
I don't understand how to open RAW files made up with my Canon 70D. I'm talking about photos.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 07, 2015, 07:40:20 PM
Google is your friend. Install DPP (Digital Photo "Professional") from CD/DVD.
And read manual.
And don't call us, we call you!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on November 08, 2015, 04:41:31 AM
Andori0803 - what the heck does not being able to open .cr2 files have to do with magic lantern firmware???  .cr2 are not affected by magic lantern at all.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: aedipuss on November 08, 2015, 04:55:29 AM
sorry if you were actually asking for an answer then buy photoshop.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: starbase64 on November 08, 2015, 12:22:08 PM
Hi,

i use Adobe Photography Contract (~12€/month) with Lightroom and Photoshop.

regards

starbase64
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on November 10, 2015, 04:23:38 PM
Any volunteers wanting to test the next release before I update 1st post and do update the pull request @bitbucket?

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9Mu66yg5QzROFAwM3oxem9xUW8&usp=sharing

Changelog:
https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/branch/70D-merge-cleanup-new

P.S: I didn't test this myself...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 10, 2015, 08:06:52 PM
                  NikFreak

           Loaded & Working on my 111B. Is there anything in particular that you would like tested 1st?

                                                                                                                   ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on November 10, 2015, 08:23:22 PM
Not really. This is bleeding edge with the latest fixes from me and thse from bitbucket applied by a1ex. This should fix:


if you can confirm this then 70D just misses movie mode dualiso and fps overrides to become perfect :P
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on November 10, 2015, 10:06:43 PM
Thanks for the update. Will test and report back.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on November 10, 2015, 10:56:03 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on November 10, 2015, 08:23:22 PM
Not really. This is bleeding edge with the latest fixes from me and thse from bitbucket applied by a1ex. This should fix:


  • picstyle on first record not being applied
  • movie restart feature fixed for 70D.111B
  • less and faster gui redraws when using halfshutter / wheel
  • ....

if you can confirm this then 70D just misses movie mode dualiso and fps overrides to become perfect [emoji14]
So awesome Nikfreak! Thanks for all the continued hard work!  I'll try it out on my B firmware 70D tonight.

I noticed you've yet to make note about any additional audio features, are we still waiting on the new audio package to be merged?  Or is there something else needed to make this happen?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: laci.szebeni on November 10, 2015, 10:58:31 PM
Quote from: TechnoPilot on November 10, 2015, 10:56:03 PM
So awesome Nikfreak! Thanks for all the continued hard work!  I'll try it out on my B firmware 70D tonight.

I noticed you've yet to make note about any additional audio features, are we still waiting on the new audio package to be merged?  Or is there something else needed to make this happen?
What additional audio features besides the ones implemented by Canon are you looking for?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 11, 2015, 07:43:57 AM
Movie Restart is working.

Not familiar with PicStyle or GUI Redraw Issues so can't speak to that.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on November 11, 2015, 07:45:40 AM
I still ran into the issue that the Cinestyle picture style, even though selected as the record picture style, didn't get used on first recording after the camera was switched on.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on November 11, 2015, 08:08:57 AM
Sorry, misinformation by me. Remembered having it seen marked "as fixed" but I was wrong:

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2379/canon-6d-116-rec-picstyle-magiclantern
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on November 11, 2015, 08:10:51 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on November 11, 2015, 08:08:57 AM
Sorry, misinformation by me. Remembered having it seen marked "as fixed" but I was wrong:

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2379/canon-6d-116-rec-picstyle-magiclantern
No worries, that's a really honest mistake! Just do a test shot after turning on the camera before you start shooting, not a bad practice anyways! [emoji14]
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 11, 2015, 08:45:04 AM
                      @ TechnoPilot & NikFreak

           I am now familiar with the PicStyle Issue ~ Figured out what you guys were refering to while you were chatting. I have always set my PicStyle Via the CanonMenu

so had not experienced the Issue before. It's not really a big issue as long as you are Aware of it & Remember ~ Might provide a ReferenceVid in some scenarios. But Heck

NikFreak, if you can fix it, Go For It.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: ahsan on November 11, 2015, 01:52:01 PM
When the full version of Magic Lantern will be released for Canon EOS 70D?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 11, 2015, 01:52:50 PM
Top of page -> User Guide -> FAQ -> Troll Questions section
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: starbase64 on November 11, 2015, 03:16:56 PM
Hi,

magiclantern-Nightly.2015Nov10.70D111A.zip works fine, no problems.

regards

starbase64
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: groundlessfears on November 11, 2015, 08:16:04 PM
from where to get this ( magiclantern-Nightly.2015Nov10.70D111A.zip ) if someone have then please share. Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 11, 2015, 08:18:20 PM
See reply #1934.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: groundlessfears on November 11, 2015, 08:20:47 PM
got it, many many thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: jamieoliver22 on November 11, 2015, 09:40:19 PM
I have been using the Beta-1 on the model A for a week or so now, and it has been brilliant - many thanks to Nik and everyone involved with this. My 70D is the first camera to support it (only had a 20D before it), so it has been great to try it out. The crop marks have been particularity useful, as well as the on-screen stuff like magic zoom and histogram. Still need to have a play around with some of the other features.

Quote from: laci.szebeni on November 10, 2015, 10:58:31 PM
What additional audio features besides the ones implemented by Canon are you looking for?

I imagine features like audio monitoring through the AV port for one, I know that is something that I would find particularly useful. Not sure if it something that can be done on the 70D though.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on November 11, 2015, 10:46:55 PM
Quote from: jamieoliver22 on November 11, 2015, 09:40:19 PM
Not sure if it something that can be done on the 70D though.

cannot be done!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: mattdutiel on November 12, 2015, 03:32:52 AM
Quote
Quote from: jamieoliver22 on Yesterday at 09:40:19 PM

    Not sure if it something that can be done on the 70D though.


cannot be done!


Just wondering if you had any info on why it isnt possible?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: nikfreak on November 12, 2015, 07:27:25 AM
With massive reverse engineering efforts it may be possible one day. But actually there's no Digic5 powered cam supporting audio features except the audio metersand mlv_snd-module.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: sprakash on November 13, 2015, 09:03:44 PM
Hi,

I am using magic lantern Beta-1 on 70D111A version. When I enable Wi-Fi on the camera, the overlay information disappears. I needed to see the information on the overlay while trying to shoot remotely using my android phone connected via wi-fi.

What I did:

Is this a known bug?

Also, may I know why was focus stacking disabled in subsequent builds? I really need to use focal stacking. Is it going to come back in any future builds? If not, then can I re-enable it somehow for my personal use?

Thanks,
sprakash
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: TechnoPilot on November 14, 2015, 12:52:43 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on November 12, 2015, 07:27:25 AM
With massive reverse engineering efforts it may be possible one day. But actually there's no Digic5 powered cam supporting audio features except the audio metersand mlv_snd-module.
Oh this is very interesting, I was not aware of that point!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: axelcine on November 14, 2015, 07:00:27 PM
Use in-camera sound for sync only. Read my earlier post http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5951.msg154413#msg154413
Good luck.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: starbase64 on November 14, 2015, 10:45:09 PM
@nikfreak

is focus stacking possible with ML on 70D?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-1 / 22th Aug)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 15, 2015, 06:09:27 AM
      Starbase64

    It's has been @ 1 time but was apparently Buggy so it was Disabled while being Fixed. Until it is Fixed & Reenabled

You can get it back by acquiring & running Alpha7a2 (08Aug).

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: starbase64 on November 15, 2015, 10:59:10 AM
ok, thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 15, 2015, 11:03:48 AM
Just updated the first post and tagged it "Beta-2". List of changes is rather minimal and that's a good sign.

To answer starbase64's question: focus stacking was buggy as OlRivRat pointed out and therefore it got disabled. 70D's AF is quite different and "something unknown" caused trouble
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: maxexcloo on November 16, 2015, 01:49:10 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on November 15, 2015, 11:03:48 AM
Just updated the first post and tagged it "Beta-2". List of changes is rather minimal and that's a good sign.

To answer starbase64's question: focus stacking was buggy as OlRivRat pointed out and therefore it got disabled. 70D's AF is quite different and "something unknown" caused trouble

Sounds good that we're approaching stability! Awesome work mate :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: groundlessfears on November 18, 2015, 11:07:23 AM
Do every time we need to re flash the magiclantern to upgrade, or simply overwrite the autoexe.bin file from the latest archive to the SD CARD and done.?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 18, 2015, 11:20:34 AM
Just delete ML directory, FIR and autoexec.bin and copy extracted build contents to card.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: Thobias on November 18, 2015, 05:30:09 PM
Thanks for update!

Is it safe to keep my setting files of previous version of ML and update just core files on SD cards? If not, any way how transfer settings from previous version?

Btw, latest version of Camera RAW and Adobe DNG Converter (9.3) released 2 days ago is still not able to open DNG files that contain metadata from 70D=(
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 18, 2015, 07:43:12 PM
      @ GroundlessFears & Thobias & WEIMC

   I find that this Procedure works Quite Nicely ~

On Your SD Card, Drag Your Old "settings" Folder out of the "ML" Folder to the "Root Level" of the SD Card

Drag, Drop & Replace the New "autoexec.bin", "FIR" & "ML" Folder from their Unzipped location to the SD Card

Then Drag, Drop & Replace the Old "settings" Folder from the SD Card "Root Level" to the New "ML" Folder

Put the SD Card in my 70D & Start it, Allow it to do a Full StartUp (All LED Flashing Stops) Then Turn Off Cam'

& Restart ~ The Double StartUp Is Probably Not Necessary but it just "Feels" like the Right Thing To Do.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: starbase64 on November 19, 2015, 12:14:03 AM
Hi,

auto focus is broken on my 70d, someone has original firmware 1.1.1 A?

edit: auto focus works again

regards

starbase64
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: TechnoPilot on November 19, 2015, 01:27:09 AM
Hey all I've noticed something interesting with this build, and my installation of it.

For reference, I have been regularly using the method mentioned above to retain settings from build to build, specifically though the settings file, not whole folder.

For a while now I have been using the shutter timing delay functionality to give myself an accurate 180° shutter for 24p video recording, but I noticed now that the delay seems to be pre-added and when set to zero on the delay, shutter speeds are still modified and at 1/48 or similar and putting in any delay does not work, shutter speeds do not change.  I tried resetting all settings to default in my install and this still did not change the shutter speed back.  Is this accurate behaviour, or is it a bug?  It seems to only effect video recordings, photo shutter speeds remain normal.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: bombobrudi on November 19, 2015, 07:39:04 PM
Just downloaded Beta-2, make fresh install. All went well, but there is NO ML overlay anymore, no zebras, no focus peaking, NOTHING ;(
What should I do?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 19, 2015, 07:46:25 PM
Delete ML directory, delete autoexec.bin. Copy extracted build contents to card and startup cam.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: aedipuss on November 19, 2015, 08:16:00 PM
bombobrudi - did you go into the canon settings and "update firmware" ?  sounds like you used a new card and it's not bootable yet.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: bombobrudi on November 19, 2015, 08:18:04 PM
Did clean setup.
The ML config screen works via Trash Icon Key works fine, but not the ML live view overlay. I always get the default live view overlay.

See here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ww0zirg5nb1yrq/IMG_0089.JPG?dl=0

Any idea?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 19, 2015, 08:20:23 PM
Press INFO several times and eventually ML screen (and overlays) will be seen.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: bombobrudi on November 19, 2015, 08:26:14 PM
Hmmm, just went back to ML Beta-1 and it works perfectly. And now back again to Beta-2 no Overlay.
I know the Info cycle. But it is not there  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 19, 2015, 08:47:22 PM
Just to be sure: Prefs tab -> Config files -> Restore ML defaults
Restart cam.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: bombobrudi on November 19, 2015, 09:26:46 PM
also not working... I had several problems with the normal overlay coming up here and there in front of ML overlay... very annoying. But now not even a ML overlay anymore.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 19, 2015, 09:59:15 PM
@nikfreak: Any idea what is going on with bombobrudi's installation?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: bombobrudi on November 19, 2015, 10:15:29 PM
Can I supply any log file or something like this?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: Thobias on November 19, 2015, 10:25:37 PM
According to Eric Chan (Camera Raw Engineer) problem with importing DNG files to Adobe products that contain meta-data from EOS 70D will be fixed soon!
Source: http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/canon-70d-corrupted-exif-data-of-dng-files (http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/canon-70d-corrupted-exif-data-of-dng-files)

That mean we will be able to use MLV and post-edit DNG footages directly in Adobe products. Wonderful!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on November 19, 2015, 10:44:44 PM
Quote from: Thobias on November 19, 2015, 10:25:37 PM
According to Eric Chan (Camera Raw Engineer) problem with importing DNG files to Adobe products that contain meta-data from EOS 70D will be fixed soon!
Source: http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/canon-70d-corrupted-exif-data-of-dng-files (http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/canon-70d-corrupted-exif-data-of-dng-files)

That mean we will be able to use MLV and post-edit DNG footages directly in Adobe products. Wonderful!
I'd like to give a big shout-out to Thobias for bringing the issue to Adobe's attention, rather than just complaining about how terrible Adobe is for not fixing something that they weren't aware of. 

Cheers to you, Thobias!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: Thobias on November 19, 2015, 11:04:59 PM
Quote from: JohnnyG_71 on November 19, 2015, 10:44:44 PM
I'd like to give a big shout-out to Thobias for bringing the issue to Adobe's attention, rather than just complaining about how terrible Adobe is for not fixing something that they weren't aware of. 

Cheers to you, Thobias!!!
You're welcome! It mean also a lot for me, so I know that just complaining usually not works ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: starbase64 on November 19, 2015, 11:53:24 PM
@bombobrudi

overlay works fine here

(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28900132/VRAM0.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on November 20, 2015, 02:35:28 AM
Maybe Beta-2 has the Default Global Draw to OFF --  try enabling that back to ON and report back.

I just tried and it looks fine on my end.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 20, 2015, 07:39:30 AM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on November 19, 2015, 09:59:15 PM
@nikfreak: Any idea what is going on with bombobrudi's installation?

Sounds like pressing info button several times could solve his problem or Global Draw is completely turned off.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: laci.szebeni on November 20, 2015, 07:45:33 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on November 20, 2015, 07:39:30 AM
Sounds like pressing info button several times could solve his problem or Global Draw is completely turned off.
His symptoms could be replicated by first cycling the Info button to a screen without ml, and then enabling exposure presets changed by the info button..
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 20, 2015, 08:11:53 AM
Thanks for input. But this setting will just disable any screen change in LV and it will disappear after restoring ML defaults.
@bombobrudi: Are you able to switch screens in LV at all?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: bombobrudi on November 20, 2015, 02:52:23 PM
Thanks all for your feedback.
Global Draw is enabled. After 50 info button rotations still no overlay :(

The funny thing is, that now also other (older) ML version don't give me any overlay.
I can open up the ML settings screen but in live view I always ONLY have the canon default overlays :(((
I can cycle the normal canon overlays.

Possible that I bricked the cam in any way?
I will do another test later.

edit: also disabled global draw, saved it and restarted cam, enabled it again and restart. also not working.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 20, 2015, 03:33:21 PM
Reset cam settings and also additionally Cfn settings. I am sure something's interfering. No need to call it a brick. Ml extends your cam capabilities. If you only got canon defaults it's default by any means
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: aedipuss on November 20, 2015, 05:02:13 PM
i'd start over. low level format the sd card in the camera(erase ml).  extract the ml zip onto it. use the update firmware steps.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: TechnoPilot on November 20, 2015, 07:10:59 PM
Quote from: aedipuss on November 20, 2015, 05:02:13 PM
i'd start over. low level format the sd card in the camera(erase ml).  extract the ml zip onto it. use the update firmware steps.
Agreed, I suggest you just start from scratch with the ML install, see if that fixes the issue!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: TechnoPilot on November 20, 2015, 07:17:26 PM
BTW guys, I've been doing some professional shoots with this Beta 2 build on my B firmware 70D and have run into an issue that I could swear we fixed back a number of Alphas ago.

My shooting has been photography all this week and while going to review photos and punch in to check sharpness using the +/- buttons, everytime one press is taking me to full zoom and not stepping in.  I thought it might be because I had Magic Zoom enabled for my video work, but disabling this had no effect, same of course but tried, global draw.  I'm a little stumped because along with this, when using the punch in button instead of pinching with the touch screen, it also locked up touch functionality again at random (only when using the +/- key for photo review) which is something I also thought we solved a little while back.

Any recommendations Nikfreak or what you need from me to debug, let me know!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 20, 2015, 07:42:40 PM
Sounds interesting. never had such a report for a long time. I remember people having the touch screen being stuck in early Alphas, too. I will try to replicate what you described these days but don't have immediately an idea what could have caused it to appear (again?). Maybe you could also try to replicate and see if any of the image review setting is the root of your issue...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: deddo on November 21, 2015, 04:53:47 AM
Hi guys!

as i never install any of magic lantern plugin in my 70D before. Can anyone suggest me which one should i go for "70D.111A" or "70D.111B"

Thanks so much
Title: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on November 21, 2015, 05:21:12 AM
Try A and if it doesn't work then Try B.

Upon installation it'll tell you which version you have.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 21, 2015, 07:12:03 AM
      @ TechnoPilot & NikFreak

   Checked & found same Issue/Feature here ~ but it seems to be Controlled by "Prefs" ~ "Image Review Settings" ~ "QuickZoom"
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 21, 2015, 08:09:53 AM
QuoteImage Review
...
CanonMnu:Hold→PLAY: if you set Image Review: Hold in Canon menu, it will go to PLAY mode instead. This allows you to zoom in as soon as you take the picture (without having to press PLAY...

Can you check if bug also happens with the setting above plz?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 21, 2015, 07:47:12 PM
      @ NikFreak

   Seems to produce same result. But ~ As it is controllable with "ML Menu" ~ "Prefs" ~ "Image Review Settings" ~ "QuickZoom",

I'm seeing It as a Rather Nice "Feature", Rather than a Bug.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: mercator on November 22, 2015, 02:08:14 PM
Hi,
Perhaps I am missing something here ... but how do I set Dual ISO?
Thanks a lot,
M
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: bombobrudi on November 22, 2015, 06:53:42 PM
hey ho :)
thanks for all your advices... I've reset my cam, did not work, reset cn functions, did not work.
Formatted card, nothing.
Then, after trying out every single option, after enabling red eye reduction it worked again! oO
I could disable it again and it still works for me... Maybe it's just by accident, but it works!!! :))))

Thanks for all your help.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 22, 2015, 07:03:43 PM
Glad to hear you got it working again.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 23, 2015, 08:04:56 PM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on November 21, 2015, 07:12:03 AMChecked & found same Issue/Feature here ~ but it seems to be Controlled by "Prefs" ~ "Image Review Settings" ~ "QuickZoom"

Yes, true but again there are different submenu settings. I tried to replicate so plz read on...

Quote from: TechnoPilot on November 20, 2015, 07:17:26 PM
everytime one press is taking me to full zoom and not stepping in..

You got "Image Review Settings" ~ "QuickZoom"~ "SinglePress -> 100" activated for that to happen. That's what the cam should do if that setting is used. No bug for me.

Quote from: TechnoPilot on November 20, 2015, 07:17:26 PM
...it also locked up touch functionality again at random (only when using the +/- key for photo review) which is something I also thought we solved a little while back.

I tried to replicate and the only quickzoom settig which will block touch functionality is "ON (fast zoom)" for me. On all other settings touch is working for me. That said it's not locking up. I can leave the cam powered and just change that setting to anything else to get touch back working. Ofc I am on 70D.111A and OlRivrRat + TechnoPilot are using 70D.111B. So before continuing let's test all settings  thoroughly and confirm results / behavior for both fw revisions. While we are at it I might as well implement "KEN_ROCKWELL_ZOOM" feature as seen on 5D3/6D if you wish. Take a look at the user guide (http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/userguide#image_review)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 24, 2015, 02:32:12 AM
                     @NikFreak

             I had already checked all SubMenu Choices & found that they all Seemed to Function as Expected, which is why I said

QuoteI'm seeing It as a Rather Nice "Feature", Rather than a Bug.

              I'll take a look @ the KR Zoom stuff & comment. ~~ OK, looked into KRZoom & it seems like it could be useful.

                                                                                                            ORR ~ DeanB


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: laci.szebeni on November 24, 2015, 02:51:21 AM
Hey, guys.
Is there any way we could reimplement the feature of displaying "elapsed/remaining 4gb/remaining card" feature?
I find it critical to know when the card is about to fill up and when a 4gb break is about to occur while shooting long sessions of video.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 24, 2015, 09:53:33 AM
I will have a look into it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: laci.szebeni on November 24, 2015, 10:22:32 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on November 24, 2015, 09:53:33 AM
I will have a look into it.
Sweet! Thanks a lot, nikfreak. You're the greatest! :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on November 24, 2015, 05:27:23 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on November 23, 2015, 08:04:56 PM
While we are at it I might as well implement "KEN_ROCKWELL_ZOOM" feature as seen on 5D3/6D if you wish. Take a look at the user guide (http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/userguide#image_review)
@nikfreak -- Huge thumbs-up for adding "KEN_ROCKWELL_ZOOM"!   :D
That will make my life a whole lot easier....  ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: laci.szebeni on November 24, 2015, 05:44:53 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on November 24, 2015, 09:53:33 AM
I will have a look into it.
Also the arrow keys shortcuts were amazing, too. I dunno why those were removed, they were gold for changing white balance and setting shutter speeds bellow the 1/30 canon limit.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 24, 2015, 06:21:20 PM
Hmm ok I will look into arrow shortcuts again but as fa ras I remember I wasn't convinced by the way how it worked as for 70D it was really hard to catch an unused and additionally unique key-press-event. At least we were able to trigger it and if you find it useful I can re-activate it and release it for testing...

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: laci.szebeni on November 24, 2015, 07:45:29 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on November 24, 2015, 06:21:20 PM
Hmm ok I will look into arrow shortcuts again but as fa ras I remember I wasn't convinced by the way how it worked as for 70D it was really hard to catch an unused and additionally unique key-press-event. At least we were able to trigger it and if you find it useful I can re-activate it and release it for testing...
Indeed, their functionality was kinda funky.. But hey! Canon offers no way of changing the WB while recording, and even when not, the way they make you do it in live view with Q and Info really sucks in my opinion. So therefore having the arrows to control WB at will is priceless. If enabling them only involves uncommenting some code, then I believe it's worth it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: TechnoPilot on November 24, 2015, 09:27:06 PM
Alright, I definitely agree that what I experienced was not a bug, however it would seem that QuickZoom was defaulted to on.  Should this really be the case?  I do also want to note that the camera did not lockup as I think was taken that I described, just the touch functionality until I exited Playback mode.

I have noted one instance where I can reliably get the camera to completely lockup and require switch off and battery removal to reset, but I think this is a Canon issue and not a ML one.  That is removing a micro SD from the camera while leaving an adapter in it and closing the SD card door.  This creates an instant lockup, but I need to test with a non-ML card to see if it is ML related or at the Canon level.

I have to second/third the request to add back the arrow button control of white balance and ISO, this worked brilliantly for me, and while it popped up a little Canon overlay while the activation button was pressed, it really was only a slight annoyance and not a hindrance to use.

I just wanted to confirm, please correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as we are aware at moment, there is no way to implement Clean HDMI out?  Right?  I ask because with the release of the new Blackmagic Video Assist, I was eyeing it at the store yesterday and simply loved it, except when I plugged it into my 70D [emoji14]

Thanks again Nikfreak for all the work, I love ML on my camera to say the least!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 24, 2015, 09:45:49 PM
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9Mu66yg5QzRc0hOMklJY2Z2UW8&usp=sharing

Follow above link to grab the test builds for 70D.111A / B.
What to test:

So still some ToDo's but I expect some feedback if you wish one or all of those features implemented  ;D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: laci.szebeni on November 24, 2015, 10:26:21 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on November 24, 2015, 09:45:49 PM
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9Mu66yg5QzRc0hOMklJY2Z2UW8&usp=sharing

Follow above link to grab the test builds for 70D.111A / B.
What to test:

  • All Quickzoom stuff! I wasn't able to implement Ken Rockwell Zoom feature but you can emulate it via "Image Review" -> "CanonMnu:Hold->PLAY"
  • That said I am thinking about some optional Automode which would automatically apply the setting from "Quick Zoom" once "Image Review" -> "CanonMnu:Hold->PLAY" is set.Hope you understand it.
  • Time indicator is enabled as requested. This required to enable bitrate features which aren't likely to work. But I may stand corrected cause I never shoot videos...
  • Arrow shortcuts are enabled again (same keys as before [check help]). seems to work ok in movie mode only but for 100% perfection I would like to cancel the dialog kicking in "This function is not available in movie shooting mode" and maybe restrict it to movie mode only. In liveview I don't seem to be able to catch an usable key event. Need really more time to find "the" perfect solution. But I guess those that wanted to have arrow shortcuts should be even happy about this state...
  • Histogram tweaks from a1ex's pull request are inbuilt.test them thoroughly and approve / confirm / comment the pull request please: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/667/histogram-tweaks/diff

So still some ToDo's but I expect some feedback if you wish one or all of those features implemented  ;D
Arrow shortcuts work as before. Thank you for enabling them, and on such a short notice, too.
Elapsed/remaining time display are also working, just a little glitchy as the numbers are displayed over the chosen fps so they keep flickering. I wouldn't mind if fps display was removed altogether as that's a feature you usually set once for your region and then never touch again. But if it can't be removed easily, it's fine anyway.
Thanks again for all the amazing work you're doing transforming these DSLRs.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on November 24, 2015, 10:26:33 PM
Clean outs is possible with ML, But not at 1080p.
You could get clean 720p, and that would require crop. To get 1080p you have to up res.

Check my post link for details (this really should be a sticky):
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5951.msg155225#msg155225
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: lubo on November 25, 2015, 01:07:55 PM
Hello,

I would lile to say thank you to all of the MagicLantern crew and also to nikfreak and all other guys who helped him to port MagicLantern for Canon 70D!!!
MagicLanter support was one of the KEY FEATURES which I looked for when decided to upgrade from 700D


I have one question about the SD Card Benchmark menu - I was sure that this menu showed right information about the SD Card performance, but unfortunately there is something strange ...

As I know the write SD Card bus speed on 70D is limited to somewhere around 35-36 MB/s, I bought a 128 GB SanDisk Ultra 80MB/s card.
http://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/canon-70d/fastest-sd-cards/

On my test on a PC the card have a read rate of 92MB/s and write rate 40-39.8 MB/s

On the test with the MagicLantern Benchmark program the results are:
write speed: 13.6 - 29.3 MB/s
read speed: 19.7 - 43.7
both speeds are far below the test results on the PC and below the 70D bus limitations ... ?
When testing to record RAW video the write speed is about 18-20 MB/s

Do anybody know what are the speed limitations of the SD Card bus on Canon 70D?
Is the MagicLantern SD Benchmark program right or wrong?
Do anybody have better results with some other SD Card?

Best regards,
Lubo
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 25, 2015, 01:14:33 PM
After starting benchmark press Play button. ML will write a PPM file containing a screen snapshot to card root. Convert it, upload it somewhere and link it here.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: starbase64 on November 25, 2015, 05:14:54 PM
SanDisk Extreme 64GB microSDXC UHS-I Class 10 U3 ~33€
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00NMD4YCW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5726/23195071382_89dbe10d40.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/BkENBQ)
Canon_EOS_70D_SanDisk_Extreme_64GB_microSDXC_UHS-I_Class_10_U3 (https://flic.kr/p/BkENBQ) by Maik Reifschneider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/maik_reifschneider/), auf Flickr
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: starbase64 on November 25, 2015, 08:05:59 PM
SanDisk Ultra 64GB SDXC Class 10 ~31€
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00T9D4XI4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5754/23280238746_f26b8b448d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/BtciUE)
Canon_EOS_70D_SanDisk Ultra 64GB SDXC_Class_10 (https://flic.kr/p/BtciUE) by Maik Reifschneider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/maik_reifschneider/), auf Flickr
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 26, 2015, 04:08:53 AM
Quote
Elapsed/remaining time display are also working, just a little glitchy as the numbers are displayed over the chosen fps so they keep flickering. I wouldn't mind if fps display was removed altogether as that's a feature you usually set once for your region and then never touch again. But if it can't be removed easily, it's fine anyway.

       Elapsed/remaining Time Display is working for Me as well but would not want FPS Display go away. Would rather see File # replaced with Time Indicator during Rec

if possible.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: laci.szebeni on November 26, 2015, 04:10:37 AM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on November 26, 2015, 04:08:53 AM
       Elapsed/remaining Time Display is working for Me as well but would not want FPS Display go away. Would rather see File # replaced with Time Indicator during Rec

if possible.
Yes. Even better.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: TechnoPilot on November 26, 2015, 04:31:43 AM
Perhaps could there be an option in the settings for picking?  I feel like having the those kinds of customizations would be ideal...since I think a few of us would want different things...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 26, 2015, 09:18:36 AM
Before we tinker with that let's return to start:
Anyone tried the bitrate options? Do they work or simply useless at all on 70D? Can you see some significant increase in file size or quality (if it worked)? Lemme know your results and afterwards we will do the indicators  8)

Any comments on the raw histogram tweaks? Still encountering problems with quick zoom and touch functionality?
Title: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on November 26, 2015, 09:22:50 AM
I'll be out of town in SF until next Sunday and will confirm all of this come Monday next week.

Happy Thanksgiving y'all!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: lubo on November 26, 2015, 11:47:22 AM
starbase64 thank you for the information! How long RAW video you are able to record with this card before the frame drops?

SanDisk Extreme 64GB microSDXC UHS-I Class 10 U3 ~33€
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00NMD4YCW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00


Below are my results with my card: SanDisk Ultra 128GB SDXC UHS-I Memory Card Up To  80MB/s
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-Class-Memory-SDSDUNC-032G-GN6IN/dp/B0143RT8OY

(http://i67.tinypic.com/1z2erlf.png)

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2lvda3a.png)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: pontius on November 26, 2015, 12:21:37 PM
Hello Nikfreak, I ran some bitrate tests today.

1080p 25fps ALL-I ~10s clips
0.5x -> 69.9 Mbps
3x -> 70.0 Mbps
q16 -> 69.8 Mbps
q-16 -> 69.9 Mbps

1080p 24fps ALL-I ~10s clips
0.5x / 3x / q16 / q-16 -> 71 Mbps

720p 50fps ALL-I ~10s clips
0.5x / 3x / q16 / q-16 -> 78 Mbps


Unfortunately, for me there were no effect whatsoever settings I did use.

Edit: As Walter Schulz suggested, i tested IPB modes too.

1080p 25fps IPB ~10s clips
0.5x / 3x / q16 / q-16 -> 29.5 Mbps

1080p 24fps IPB ~10s clips
0.5x / 3x / q16 / q-16 -> 29.4 Mbps

720p 50fps IPB ~10s clips
0.5x / 3x / q16 / q-16 -> 25.8  Mbps
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 26, 2015, 12:28:05 PM
Please test bitrates for IPB/IPP, too.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 26, 2015, 07:40:33 PM
      @NikFreak

   QuickZoom seems to be Functioning As Expected/Quite Nicely.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 26, 2015, 07:50:36 PM
   Transcend 32GB 600X 90MB/s~Read

(https://picasaweb.google.com/109991183317103413704/ORRsEOS70DMagicZtuff#6221585780145109746)

Put image in Picasa & added URL between  img & /img tags ~ That doesn't seem to work either.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: ainu on November 26, 2015, 08:26:35 PM
lubo, my card Kingston SDA3/64 GB SDXC UHS I U3 (R/W marked as 90/80 mb/s) write speed test rezults (Mb/s): 41.6 , 40.8, 40.5, 39, 36.1, 37.9, 31.2, 15.9.
Transcend 32gb 10 class write speed: 30-32 mb/s.

Quick zoom is work fine for me at all it's settings.
May be I'm stupid, but I can't understand what setting ""Image Review" -> "CanonMnu:Hold->PLAY" must do. -> I can't test it. Can anyone tell me what this setting do?


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: laci.szebeni on November 26, 2015, 08:34:29 PM
Quote from: ainu on November 26, 2015, 08:26:35 PM
lubo, my card Kingston SDA3/64 GB SDXC UHS I U3 write speed test rezults (Mb/s): 41.6 , 40.8, 40.5, 39, 36.1, 37.9, 31.2, 15.9.
Transcend 32gb 10 class write speed: 30-32 mb/s.

Quick zoom is work fine for me at all it's settings.
May be I'm stupid, but I can't understand what setting ""Image Review" -> "CanonMnu:Hold->PLAY" must do. -> I can't test it. Can anyone tell me what this setting do?
It means that when you set your canon menu to review the image after it's been taken for "Hold" time, you no longer have to press the Play button in order to zoom into the image.

In the Canon menu you can set how many seconds you want your image to be displayed after capture. You can choose between 2, 4, etc seconds and Hold. If set to hold, the image is displayed until you press something else.
Now usually, in order to zoom into a image after capture, you'd have to press the play button first.
But with that ML feature enabled, if you set Hold for the above option, you no longer have to press play and you can zoom into an image as soon as it's been captured.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2 / 15th Nov)
Post by: aedipuss on November 26, 2015, 09:42:38 PM
QuoteSo how does 1 add an image/attach'?

OlRivrRat this appears to be one of those forums that doesn't allow direct uploads of pictures.  you have to insert the url of the image from somewhere on the web between the img and /img tags.  i use a temp folder in one of my website. 

(http://www.minidv2dvd.com/temp/audio.png)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 26, 2015, 09:59:44 PM
updated first post. Read changelog.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: TechnoPilot on November 26, 2015, 10:21:05 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on November 26, 2015, 09:59:44 PM
updated first post. Read changelog.
Seems you still have it listed though as having bitrate modifications disabled, is this a new revision from the 2b beta you posted on the 15th?  While I know that people seem to found the modified bitrates not to work, they were enabled...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 26, 2015, 10:28:04 PM
rec indicators are included in bitrate source. I grabbed 5D3 implementation and replicated it for 70D.This would let me disable bitrate features again but have rec indicator enabled as requested. You better updated to the build from 1st post as it differs from the test-zip posted some days ago  8). You might want to always check the bitbucket source to see when the last commits were done.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: TechnoPilot on November 26, 2015, 10:31:08 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on November 26, 2015, 10:28:04 PM
rec indicators are included in bitrate source. I grabbed 5D3 implementation and replicated it for 70D.This would let me disable bitrate features again but have rec indicator enabled as requested. You better updated to the build from 1st post as it differs from the test-zip posted some days ago  8). You might want to always check the bitbucket source to see when the last commits were done.
That's why I wanted to check!  Will update tonight!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 26, 2015, 11:26:22 PM
      @TAWIMC

   I Am EverSoThankful for NikFreak & All the rest of the M'L' Wizards.

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: ainu on November 27, 2015, 10:01:11 AM
laci.szebeni, thanks for detailed info.

"Image Review" -> "CanonMnu:Hold->PLAY"  works as expected.

Maybe I deviate from a discussion subject a little. Whether realization of switching off/on of external flash "fire" by the button of opening of the built-in flash is possible?
In the standard canon menu there is such function at the connected and turned on external flash.
Whether it is possible to process in ML events of pressing of buttons if the menu ML isn't caused?

I found a similar question in this subject, but I can't understand possible algorithm of realization.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13043.msg157809#new

It is necessary to find the address of function which is carried out in the standard canon menu in my representation and to write the handler of pressing of the button.
I apologize for the simplified description in advance. I so far only understand as the firmware and ML works.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 27, 2015, 11:34:00 PM
      @NikFreak

   Arrow Shortcuts Functioning Nicely ~ Thanks Somemore ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 28, 2015, 02:19:51 PM
Ok, everybody. a1ex implemented a new boot method (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/672/dryos-task-hooks-for-newer-cameras-6d-70d) and here are the zips for you to test:

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9Mu66yg5QzRSVhOVnBHWkFCRDA&usp=sharing

What to look for?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: aedipuss on November 28, 2015, 05:10:03 PM
the test build hard crashed my 70d.  i was in movie mode, brought up magic lantern menu, menu closes cam starts recording and won't respond to any buttons including the off switch.  removed battery to stop it.  repeated a second time to verify.   now removing test build.

here's the crash.log - ASSERT: 0
at ./Memory/Memory.c:575, task AeWb
lv:1 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015Nov28.70D111A
Mercurial changeset   : 15be51f3ac34+ (70D-merge-dryos-hooks) tip
Built on 2015-11-28 12:52:56 UTC by ml@ml-pc.
Free Memory  : 238K + 2992K
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 28, 2015, 06:14:30 PM
      @NikFreak

   It Seems To Be Quite Functional ~ Have not had time for any InDepth tests but in light of Aedipusss post I did attempt to replicate & encountered

No Issues. Actually tried to see what might happen if activating M'L'Menu During Rec' & was surprised that it Did Display & Continued to 'til I Manually

deactivated it (No AutoShutOff as it Normally does in Movie & LV).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: ahsan on November 28, 2015, 06:47:53 PM
 @Nikfreak Please kindly fix ML menu. It disappears after some seconds.  :'(
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 28, 2015, 06:51:19 PM
Ok guys before it gets lost: try dualiso movie mode and share some dng frames as requested earlier

@aedipus: your problem is a known and old one to me. Might happen to others on 70D.111A using the test build too. Why? I was playing around with fps override feature and it's enabled on the 70D.111A build only but is broken and causes your crash. So nothing to worry. Update: Can you redownload the test build again please. Your problems should be gone now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 28, 2015, 08:51:48 PM
Important update: everyone having installed the test build from earlier today please redownload (same link) and install them NOW again or you might get issues.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: TechnoPilot on November 28, 2015, 09:20:48 PM
Rolling up to most recent Beta 2c, will let you know if I run into anything and I will see what I can do to provide the dual ISO test.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: TechnoPilot on November 28, 2015, 09:28:10 PM
Okay bad news...instant crash as soon as I engaged liveview in movie mode when I turned on the camera after it warned me that my bag had slightly disengaged the lens.  I locked the lens back on, hit the liveview button, heard the mirror flip up and was instantly presented with the crash notice on screen.

ASSERT: 0
at ./Memory/Memory.c:575, task AeWb
lv:1 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015Nov28.70D111B
Mercurial changeset   : 15be51f3ac34+ (70D-merge-dryos-hooks) tip
Built on 2015-11-28 19:44:03 UTC by ml@ml-pc.
Free Memory  : 146K + 2176K


Please note that I had copied my settings over from the Beta 2b, so I will retry with a vanilla build and update this post with my results.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 28, 2015, 09:36:35 PM
yes keep me updated
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: TechnoPilot on November 28, 2015, 09:46:56 PM
To update what I posted above, sadly, as soon as I turned on the camera in movie and C mode (what I use for movie settings), the camera drew the ML overlays and as soon as it finished, it crashed again on a vanilla copy of Beta 2c.  Same crash log essentially, but in case included below:

ASSERT: 0
at ./Memory/Memory.c:575, task AeWb
lv:1 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015Nov28.70D111B
Mercurial changeset   : 15be51f3ac34+ (70D-merge-dryos-hooks) tip
Built on 2015-11-28 19:44:03 UTC by ml@ml-pc.
Free Memory  : 231K + 2434K


Rolling back to Beta 2b for now...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 28, 2015, 09:54:05 PM
Quote from: TechnoPilot on November 28, 2015, 09:46:56 PM

Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015Nov28.70D111B
Mercurial changeset   : 15be51f3ac34+ (70D-merge-dryos-hooks) tip
Built on 2015-11-28 19:44:03 UTC by ml@ml-pc.

the built time doesn't match! Please just try again. To be rest assured there was no mistake on my end I re-updated the zips in the link.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: TechnoPilot on November 28, 2015, 10:02:23 PM
Okay I re-downloaded the build and yes I can see a later build time, but sadly I see this in the crash log.  Same exact crash as previous:

ASSERT: 0
at ./Memory/Memory.c:575, task AeWb
lv:1 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015Nov28.70D111B
Mercurial changeset   : aae92eae46f1 (70D-merge-dryos-hooks) tip
Built on 2015-11-28 20:50:58 UTC by ml@ml-pc.
Free Memory  : 231K + 2435K
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 28, 2015, 10:20:03 PM
Thanx for testing. Just was hinted that dualiso needs some rework as the adresses change by using the new boot method.I therefore removed the test builds and going to release a new updated one later after doing some own tests and finding the new dualiso values with adtg gui.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 28, 2015, 10:28:05 PM
      @NikFreak

   Just Downloaded Most Recent ~ Am Labeling All Todays Test Builds " Beta~2.0.d " to avoid confusion & For Now they are being kept in Folders Lbld

Bttr & MoBttr ~

   Latest Also Seems To Be Quite Functional ~ Will test Dual ISO later. Have tried to replicate TecPi's issues & No Problems seen.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 28, 2015, 10:33:58 PM
@OlRivrRat: dualiso won't work with the test builds.I am just doing some own tests to get it working again with the new boot method. Afterwards we can do some dualiso tests here
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 29, 2015, 01:38:19 AM
                     @NikFreak

           OK I Guess ~ What did you mean then by this request ~

QuoteWhat to look for?

Just test-drive the build. Anything wrong?

The only thing I added on top of the new boot method is Dual Iso support in movie mode. I now need someone to take some time and simply retry it again. If it still causes problems (which I expect but who knows..): Upload a few dng frames[/b] of the dual iso movie and post a link here so we can point a1ex to have a look at those dng's.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 29, 2015, 10:01:10 AM
*placeholder*

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 29, 2015, 12:46:18 PM
*removed*

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: aedipuss on November 29, 2015, 06:07:42 PM
am i the only one having nothing but problems with the new beta?  i installed todays on a used card.  boots fine but crashes all over the place.  somehow all the overlays are gone.  just turning movie mode on with dual iso on locks up the camera.  err 70  err 80.  i have some logs if you want them.

so i started over and re-formatted the card.  copied over the new beta.  did the update firmware.  it gets to the reboot camera ok, but when rebooted the red light comes on and the camera is hard locked.  did it over again to verify.  it won't boot using the new beta.

reformatted card installed the 11-26 firmware and everything is back to working.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 29, 2015, 06:12:16 PM
Log, please!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 29, 2015, 06:21:29 PM
Removed the links again - though I have no problems at all. So yes, post your logs!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: Coolwatercorey on November 29, 2015, 08:54:18 PM
whats up people,

Im very new to this ml world, but I just got a 70d, & the .111a version works for me,ive been testing everything for the past week, but does anyone have a link of how to use the dualiso movie mode? it works fine for raw photos & ive downloaded all the cr2hdr stuff and converters, but as far as in camera when I record at 24 or 30fps i get red and blue flickers, but not when i record at 60fps, is this normal does anyone have a link to examples of the in camera part or something?

thanks, im willing to help out.

i am running magiclantern-Nightly.2015Nov29.70D111A
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 29, 2015, 11:27:18 PM
                     @Coolwatercorey

           Welcome Aboard ~ Please be more specific as to Which Version of 111A You are Running.

                                                                                                        ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: aedipuss on November 29, 2015, 11:34:22 PM
a pair of logs -

crash00.log
ASSERT: 0
at ./Memory/Memory.c:575, AeWb:3db28
lv:1 mode:22


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015Nov29.70D111A
Mercurial changeset   : 0a981f3d2abf+ (70D-merge-dryos-hooks) tip
Built on 2015-11-29 11:22:59 UTC by ml@ml-pc.
Free Memory  : 238K + 2393K

log000.log
Sun Nov 29 12:17:59 2015
      0:    48.269 [STARTUP]
K325 ICU Firmware Version 1.1.1 ( 8.1.3 )
      1:    48.293 [STARTUP]
ICU Release DateTime 2013.09.25 13:56:21
      2:    49.814 [PROPAD] PROPAD_CreateFROMPropertyHandle DRAMAddr 0x41744000
      3:    50.470 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x10000
      4:    51.290 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 0)
      5:    51.313 [STARTUP] startupEntry
      6:   105.384 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x7
      7:   105.564 [STARTUP] startupPropAdminMain : End
      8:   105.668 [SEQ ERROR] NotifyComplete (Cur = 1, 0x2, Flag = 0x20000000)
      9:   147.340 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 1)
     10:   147.383 [STARTUP] startupPrepareProperty
     11:   149.439 [PROPST] CLR Adjective & Situation : AEMode -> StartupCondition
     12:   150.099 [RTC] PROPAD_GetPropertyData : PROP_RTC 0xa0
     13:   151.726 [RTC] ChangePropertyCBR 0x0, 0x4000
     14:   151.973 [RTC] RTC_Permit 0x20
     15:   152.421 [SND] Seq LPC fin
     16:   152.845 [RSC] hMemoryQueue (0x800010) hStorageQueue (0x820012)
     17:   154.065 [RSC] MemoryStatusMasterResultCBR
     18:   183.486 [FM] FM_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     19:   183.527 [MRK] MRK_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     20:   183.576 [AUDIO] [GPS] GPS_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     21:   183.660 [FM] FM_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     22:   183.954 [JOB] InitializeJobClass (ID = 1754, Num = 13)
     23:   193.327 [EM] emLockControl (TYPE_JOBSTATE = 0x0)
     24:   195.479 [JOB] InitializeInnerDevelopJobClass (ID = 1754, Num = 16)
     25:   195.510 [JOB] InitializeMultipleExposureShootJobClass ( Num = 27,11 )
     26:   195.531 [JOB] InitializeMultipleExposureSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 13 )
     27:   195.554 [JOB] InitializeHDRShootJobClass ( Num = 12 )
     28:   195.573 [JOB] InitializeHDRSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 34 )
     29:   195.596 [JOB] InitializeGISShootJobClass ( Num = 12 )
     30:   195.619 [JOB] InitializeGISSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 25, 31 )
     31:   195.723 [TERMINATE] SHUTDOWN init comp
     32:   195.773 [TERMINATE] Abort init comp
     33:   204.207 [FM] fmPrepare : Completed
     34:   204.344 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 2)
     35:   204.715 [SHTRD] [MNAV]Init
     36:   204.926 [SHTRD] [MNAV]SetMMap:1
     37:   208.119 [ENG] [ENGIO](Addr:0x41700000, Data:0x   44000)
     38:   253.492 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 3)
     39:   255.387 [MC] PROP_GUI_STATE 0
     40:   256.453 [MC] PROP_VARIANGLE_GUICTRL : Enable
     41:   256.520 [MC] [MC] PROP_HEADPHONE_VOLUME_VALUE : 0
     42:   256.668 [MC] [MC] PROP_MOVIE_PLAY_VOLUME : 5
     43:   256.829 [MC] PROP_LCD_OFFON_BUTTON : 2
     44:   257.805 [MC] regist master CardCover
     45:   260.260 [PRP] M:B1 F:0 L:0 P:32 T:8
     46:   260.412 [STARTUP] update coded version.
     47:   260.486 [STARTUP] internal version 08:01:03:b1:00:00:32:08:00:00:d0:d0:d0
     48:   261.234 [STARTUP] Set_AVS 60
     49:   264.333 [STARTUP] startupPrepareDevelop
     50:   267.831 [PROPAD] PROPAD_CreateFROMPropertyHandle DRAMAddr 0x41b2c000
     51:   268.521 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x490000
     52:   302.704 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x7
     53:   304.123 [MAC] MAC_Initialize
     54:   304.489 [MAC] K_BOARDID4
     55:   304.532 [MAC] K_BOARDID3
     56:   304.566 [MAC] K_BOARDID2
     57:   304.596 [MAC] K_BOARDID1
     58:   304.783 [MAC] Key=0x0 Board=0x0 Body=0x15453eb7
     59:   314.596 [SHTP] RegRPCHandler Master
     60:   340.793 [MR] TimeCode Mode:1
     61:   340.908 [MR] TimeCode DropFrame Mode:1
     62:   340.943 [MR] PROP_MOVIE_PARAM:0
     63:   346.424 [HPC] ReserveHPCopyChannel (1, 116)
     64:   358.180 [MR] encdrwrapHPCopyAsyncCBR
     65:   360.959 [LVDTS] WARN First Get DTS_GetAllRandomData
     66:   382.508 [STARTUP] startupPrepareRemote
     67:   383.355 [AUDIO] RegisterCBRSDIOCableConnect
     68:   385.515 [COM] PackHeap 794420,794420,0
     69:   385.833 [COM] Local Heap warning hCom[0]size[262144]
     70:   395.475 [WFT] PROP_ADAPTER_DEVICE_ACTIVE: Can Not Change(0) Connect(0)
     71:   396.257 [WFT] InitializeAdapterControl END
     72:   405.320 [RMT] QuickTransmissionEnable (0, 1, 2, 2)
     73:   405.366 [RMT] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET (0x0 <= 0x0)
     74:   405.645 [RMT] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET_WFT (0x0 <= 0x0)
     75:   405.683 [RMT] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET_INNER (0x0 <= 0x0)
     76:   407.450 [PTPCOM] SetPtpTransportResources:0,3253
     77:   423.358 [WFT] Regist PropCBR PROP_WFT_BLUETOOTH
     78:   597.572 [SD] sdSendOCR: CCS=1, S18A=1
     79:   597.680 [SD] Set 1.8V Signaling
     80:   632.222 [SD] CARD CAPACITY is 61119Mbyte( 125171712Sec )
     81:   645.078 [SD] SD_GetAccessMode=7
     82:   645.090 [SD] Set Hi-Speed Mode( 96MHz )
     83:   645.909 [FSU] fsuGetPart: Block(32768, 125138944, 125171712)
     84:   690.476 [FM] FileNo (DriveNo = 2, 0 <-> 1764)
     85:   690.604 [FC] _FC_OpenCatalog : wNumOfDir 1
     86:   697.992 [FM] [GPS] GPS_Initialize (36, 25)
     87:   698.574 [MRK] MRK_Initialize
     88:   698.841 [MRK] mrkSetLockSemaphore
     89:   699.219 [MRK] MRK_PrepareMrkFileObject
     90:   702.314 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 4)
     91:   702.490 [DP] DP_Initialize()
     92:   703.171 [DP] Std T_PrintPage[0] T_PrintNo[0] R_PrintNo[0]
     93:   703.206 [DP] Std C_PrintNo[0] C_PrintPage[0], C_Copies[0]
     94:   703.298 [DP] Dp_SetPD_RegistApi Prev:0 New:0
     95:   703.708 [DP] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET [0x00000000]
     96:   703.743 [DP] DpConnectionTarget [0x00000000]
     97:   703.796 [DP] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET_INNER [0x00000000]
     98:   703.823 [DP] DpConnectionTarget [0x00000000]
     99:   703.879 [DP] LOGICAL_CONNECT [0x00000000]
    100:   703.909 [DP] DpsTerminate()
    101:   703.997 [DP] PROP_PHYSICAL_CONNECT [0x00000000]
    102:   704.023 [DP] RD_Cancel No Issue
    103:   704.049 [DP] DpPhysicalConnectFlg [0x00000000]
    104:   704.098 [DP] PROP_INNER_PHYSICAL_CONNECT [0x00000000]
    105:   704.109 [DP] RD_Cancel No Issue
    106:   704.132 [DP] DpPhysicalConnectFlg [0x00000000]
    107:   704.170 [DP] PROP_NETWORK_SYSTEM [0]
    108:   704.197 [DP] PROP_WIFI_SETTING [0]
    109:   704.461 [DP] [GYO]DpFunctionList[0x10117fff]
    110:   704.583 [DP] X FreeMem Address[0x00000000]
    111:   704.918 [INDEV] INDEV_Initialize
    112:   709.546 [HDMI] DisconnectHDMI : Not Connected
    113:   720.333 [IMPP] H264E InitializeH264EncodeFor1080pDZoom
    114:   720.410 [IMPP] H264E InitializeH264EncodeFor1080p25fpsDZoom
    115:   749.985 [DP] DP_RegisterCBR() Id=1 Count:12
    116:   750.032 [DP] DP_RegisterCBR() Id=2 Count:12
    117:   750.055 [DP] DP_RegisterCBR() Id=4 Count:12
    118:   750.167 [MR] tcmClockEnd
    119:   750.832 [DISP] SetBacklightBrightness called
    120:   761.724 [GUI] MainEventHandler PROP_ERROR_FOR_DISPLAY(0)
    121:   774.731 [MR] PROP_MOVIE_PARAM:0
    122:   776.813 [GUI] MainEventHandler PROP_LV_OUTPUT_DEVICE(0)
    123:   779.440 [MR] PROP_MOVIE_PARAM:0
    124:   782.546 [MAGIC] (Empty Func) MVW_RegisterXmpDataCallback
    125:   784.611 [CEC]CEC OFF
    126:   786.870 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 5)
    127:   786.896 [STARTUP] startupInitializeComplete
    128:   786.994 [MC] cam event guimode comp. 0
    129:   787.835 [MC] cam event guimode comp. 0
    130:   789.246 [DL] PROP_ACTIVE_SWEEP_STATUS (0)
    131:   789.282 [DL] PROP_DL_ACTION (1)
    132:   795.829 [FA] ChangeCBR(ID=0x8003000a)
    133:   796.554 [FA] RequestFromCheckData
    134:   796.985 [FA] MpuMonSpecificFromPartner : COM_FA_CHECK_FROM 0
    135:   797.860 [DL] PROP_ACTIVE_SWEEP_STATUS (1)
    136:   798.068 [DL] PROP_DL_ACTION (0)
    137:   798.350 [DL] localCreateSerialIOChannelForDLIC
    138:   798.421 [DL] localCreateSerialIOChannelForDLIC
    139:   798.461 [DL] localCreateSerialIOChannelForDLIC
    140:   798.494 [DL] localCreateSerialIOChannelForDLIC
    141:   802.653 [DL] localCreateSerialIOChannelForDLIC
    142:   806.787 [DL]executeDL AD Start 69
    143:   806.879 [DL] localCreateSerialIOChannelForDLIC
    144:   827.349 [TCH]Active_Mode SetEnd
    145:   848.046 [TCH] [TCH]Variangle_State = 0
    146:   853.918 [MCELL][GuiFactoryRegisterEventCommissionProcedure]
    147:   857.046 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup) : End


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: aedipuss on November 29, 2015, 11:49:12 PM
there are more but most seem the same except this one.

Sun Nov 29 12:21:27 2015
      0:    48.259 [STARTUP]
K325 ICU Firmware Version 1.1.1 ( 8.1.3 )
      1:    48.284 [STARTUP]
ICU Release DateTime 2013.09.25 13:56:21
      2:    49.834 [PROPAD] PROPAD_CreateFROMPropertyHandle DRAMAddr 0x41744000
      3:    50.492 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x10000
      4:    51.311 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 0)
      5:    51.339 [STARTUP] startupEntry
      6:   105.300 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x7
      7:   105.466 [STARTUP] startupPropAdminMain : End
      8:   105.572 [SEQ ERROR] NotifyComplete (Cur = 1, 0x2, Flag = 0x20000000)
      9:   151.367 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 1)
     10:   151.400 [STARTUP] startupPrepareProperty
     11:   153.307 [RTC] PROPAD_GetPropertyData : PROP_RTC 0xa0
     12:   154.819 [RTC] ChangePropertyCBR 0x0, 0x4000
     13:   155.072 [RTC] RTC_Permit 0x20
     14:   155.658 [SND] Seq LPC fin
     15:   156.085 [RSC] hMemoryQueue (0x800010) hStorageQueue (0x820012)
     16:   157.177 [RSC] MemoryStatusMasterResultCBR
     17:   177.064 [FM] FM_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     18:   177.109 [MRK] MRK_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     19:   177.160 [AUDIO] [GPS] GPS_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     20:   177.223 [FM] FM_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     21:   177.482 [JOB] InitializeJobClass (ID = 1754, Num = 13)
     22:   179.605 [EM] emLockControl (TYPE_JOBSTATE = 0x0)
     23:   181.981 [JOB] InitializeInnerDevelopJobClass (ID = 1754, Num = 16)
     24:   182.012 [JOB] InitializeMultipleExposureShootJobClass ( Num = 27,11 )
     25:   182.036 [JOB] InitializeMultipleExposureSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 13 )
     26:   182.059 [JOB] InitializeHDRShootJobClass ( Num = 12 )
     27:   182.078 [JOB] InitializeHDRSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 34 )
     28:   182.101 [JOB] InitializeGISShootJobClass ( Num = 12 )
     29:   182.129 [JOB] InitializeGISSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 25, 31 )
     30:   182.239 [TERMINATE] SHUTDOWN init comp
     31:   182.289 [TERMINATE] Abort init comp
     32:   373.332 [SD] sdSendOCR: CCS=1, S18A=1
     33:   373.444 [SD] Set 1.8V Signaling
     34:   407.923 [SD] CARD CAPACITY is 61119Mbyte( 125171712Sec )
     35:   420.263 [SD] SD_GetAccessMode=7
     36:   420.280 [SD] Set Hi-Speed Mode( 96MHz )
     37:   421.085 [FSU] fsuGetPart: Block(32768, 125138944, 125171712)
     38:   470.805 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 2)
     39:   471.173 [SHTRD] [MNAV]Init
     40:   471.387 [SHTRD] [MNAV]SetMMap:1
     41:   474.575 [ENG] [ENGIO](Addr:0x41700000, Data:0x   44000)
     42:   520.233 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 3)
     43:   522.185 [MC] PROP_GUI_STATE 0
     44:   523.331 [MC] PROP_VARIANGLE_GUICTRL : Enable
     45:   523.397 [MC] [MC] PROP_HEADPHONE_VOLUME_VALUE : 0
     46:   523.576 [MC] [MC] PROP_MOVIE_PLAY_VOLUME : 5
     47:   523.754 [MC] PROP_LCD_OFFON_BUTTON : 2
     48:   524.697 [MC] regist master CardCover
     49:   527.039 [PRP] M:B1 F:0 L:0 P:32 T:8
     50:   527.263 [STARTUP] update coded version.
     51:   527.343 [STARTUP] internal version 08:01:03:b1:00:00:32:08:00:00:d0:d0:d0
     52:   529.185 [STARTUP] Set_AVS 60
     53:   532.247 [STARTUP] startupPrepareDevelop
     54:   538.587 [PROPAD] PROPAD_CreateFROMPropertyHandle DRAMAddr 0x41b2c000
     55:   541.642 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x490000
     56:   575.832 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x7
     57:   577.285 [MAC] MAC_Initialize
     58:   577.675 [MAC] K_BOARDID4
     59:   577.718 [MAC] K_BOARDID3
     60:   577.753 [MAC] K_BOARDID2
     61:   577.783 [MAC] K_BOARDID1
     62:   577.963 [MAC] Key=0x0 Board=0x0 Body=0x15453eb7
     63:   587.860 [SHTP] RegRPCHandler Master
     64:   614.369 [MR] TimeCode Mode:1
     65:   614.491 [MR] TimeCode DropFrame Mode:1
     66:   614.525 [MR] PROP_MOVIE_PARAM:0
     67:   620.557 [HPC] ReserveHPCopyChannel (1, 116)
     68:   632.328 [MR] encdrwrapHPCopyAsyncCBR
     69:   635.323 [LVDTS] WARN First Get DTS_GetAllRandomData
     70:   657.297 [STARTUP] startupPrepareRemote
     71:   658.148 [AUDIO] RegisterCBRSDIOCableConnect
     72:   660.290 [COM] PackHeap 794564,794564,0
     73:   660.613 [COM] Local Heap warning hCom[0]size[262144]
     74:   670.686 [WFT] PROP_ADAPTER_DEVICE_ACTIVE: Can Not Change(0) Connect(0)
     75:   671.505 [WFT] InitializeAdapterControl END
     76:   680.650 [RMT] QuickTransmissionEnable (0, 1, 2, 2)
     77:   680.697 [RMT] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET (0x0 <= 0x0)
     78:   680.979 [RMT] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET_WFT (0x0 <= 0x0)
     79:   681.016 [RMT] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET_INNER (0x0 <= 0x0)
     80:   682.739 [PTPCOM] SetPtpTransportResources:0,3253
     81:   698.549 [WFT] Regist PropCBR PROP_WFT_BLUETOOTH
     82:   706.742 [FC] _FC_OpenCatalog : wNumOfDir 1
     83:   715.050 [FM] [GPS] GPS_Initialize (36, 25)
     84:   715.676 [MRK] MRK_Initialize
     85:   715.945 [MRK] mrkSetLockSemaphore
     86:   716.374 [MRK] MRK_PrepareMrkFileObject
     87:   718.680 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 4)
     88:   718.864 [DP] DP_Initialize()
     89:   719.543 [DP] Std T_PrintPage[0] T_PrintNo[0] R_PrintNo[0]
     90:   719.579 [DP] Std C_PrintNo[0] C_PrintPage[0], C_Copies[0]
     91:   719.670 [DP] Dp_SetPD_RegistApi Prev:0 New:0
     92:   720.078 [DP] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET [0x00000000]
     93:   720.112 [DP] DpConnectionTarget [0x00000000]
     94:   720.164 [DP] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET_INNER [0x00000000]
     95:   720.190 [DP] DpConnectionTarget [0x00000000]
     96:   720.241 [DP] LOGICAL_CONNECT [0x00000000]
     97:   720.273 [DP] DpsTerminate()
     98:   720.366 [DP] PROP_PHYSICAL_CONNECT [0x00000000]
     99:   720.391 [DP] RD_Cancel No Issue
    100:   720.415 [DP] DpPhysicalConnectFlg [0x00000000]
    101:   720.465 [DP] PROP_INNER_PHYSICAL_CONNECT [0x00000000]
    102:   720.479 [DP] RD_Cancel No Issue
    103:   720.502 [DP] DpPhysicalConnectFlg [0x00000000]
    104:   720.540 [DP] PROP_NETWORK_SYSTEM [0]
    105:   720.564 [DP] PROP_WIFI_SETTING [0]
    106:   720.850 [DP] [GYO]DpFunctionList[0x10117fff]
    107:   720.972 [DP] X FreeMem Address[0x00000000]
    108:   721.287 [INDEV] INDEV_Initialize
    109:   725.987 [HDMI] DisconnectHDMI : Not Connected
    110:   736.715 [IMPP] H264E InitializeH264EncodeFor1080pDZoom
    111:   736.785 [IMPP] H264E InitializeH264EncodeFor1080p25fpsDZoom
    112:   766.869 [DP] DP_RegisterCBR() Id=1 Count:12
    113:   766.902 [DP] DP_RegisterCBR() Id=2 Count:12
    114:   766.920 [DP] DP_RegisterCBR() Id=4 Count:12
    115:   767.053 [MR] tcmClockEnd
    116:   767.764 [DISP] SetBacklightBrightness called
    117:   778.633 [GUI] MainEventHandler PROP_ERROR_FOR_DISPLAY(0)
    118:   791.533 [MR] PROP_MOVIE_PARAM:0
    119:   793.661 [GUI] MainEventHandler PROP_LV_OUTPUT_DEVICE(0)
    120:   795.893 [MR] PROP_MOVIE_PARAM:0
    121:   799.308 [MAGIC] (Empty Func) MVW_RegisterXmpDataCallback
    122:   801.421 [CEC]CEC OFF
    123:   803.710 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 5)
    124:   803.734 [STARTUP] startupInitializeComplete
    125:   803.830 [MC] cam event guimode comp. 0
    126:   804.636 [MC] cam event guimode comp. 0
    127:   806.041 [DL] PROP_ACTIVE_SWEEP_STATUS (0)
    128:   806.077 [DL] PROP_DL_ACTION (1)
    129:   821.860 [GUI] MainEventHandler PROP_LV_OUTPUT_DEVICE(1)
    130:   822.125 [FA] ChangeCBR(ID=0x8003000a)
    131:   822.877 [FA] RequestFromCheckData
    132:   827.660 [MCELL][GuiFactoryRegisterEventCommissionProcedure]
    133:   838.375 [FA] MpuMonSpecificFromPartner : COM_FA_CHECK_FROM 0
    134:   843.631 [DP] PROP_WIFI_SETTING [0]
    135:   843.988 [DP] PROP_NETWORK_SYSTEM [0]
    136:   845.468 [MR] PROP_MOVIE_PARAM:0
    137:   851.072 [DP] PROP_WIFI_SETTING [0]
    138:   851.654 [DP] PROP_NETWORK_SYSTEM [0]
    139:   852.794 [MR] PROP_MOVIE_PARAM:0
    140:   855.707 [RMT] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET_INNER (0x0 <= 0x0)
    141:   855.791 [DP] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET_INNER [0x00000000]
    142:   855.823 [DP] DpConnectionTarget [0x00000000]
    143:   856.499 [RMT] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET_INNER (0x0 <= 0x0)
    144:   856.585 [DP] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET_INNER [0x00000000]
    145:   856.616 [DP] DpConnectionTarget [0x00000000]
    146:   861.979 [SHTRD] [MNAV]SetMMap:2
    147:   863.216 [SHTRD] [MNAV]SetMMap:2
    148:   863.275 [SHTRD] [MNAV]SetTopAddr[2] (4b000000 50000000)(4b000000 50000000)
    149:   890.788 [ATKCOM] Send Bv(NG):61 Tv:65 Av:29 Iso:65 0 0 1 0 ST:0
    150:   892.139 [TCH]Active_Mode SetEnd
    151:   899.108 [CAPD] LvdsCalclkCtrlMaster
    152:   899.118 [CAPD] ImagePowerOn
    153:   908.983 [LVEVF] ShootingMode(2), FrameRate(5)
    154:  1022.292 [WINSYS] Zlib maxsize update 884
    155:  1022.345 [WINSYS] Zlib maxsize update 1396
    156:  1066.855 [TCH] [TCH]Variangle_State = 0
    157:  1067.555 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup) : End
    158:  1229.107 [ATKAEC] *** ValidResult (Bv:62,0,8)==TRUE ***
    159:  1229.683 [ATKAE] WARN AE_CALC_AEControl : Before 1st AE Metering
    160:  1319.079 [ATKCOM] Send Bv(OK):61 Tv:65 Av:29 Iso:65 0 0 1 0 ST:0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: aedipuss on November 29, 2015, 11:50:41 PM
did anyone else try installing that latest beta from a freshly formatted memory card?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: bombobrudi on November 30, 2015, 12:23:25 AM
Yes, I am using the Beta-2b with fresh formatted card. No problems for me.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: aedipuss on November 30, 2015, 12:56:35 AM
bombobrundi - the ml build was from today nov 29 that i referred to.  not the nov 26 build, that one works fine here also.  the new one has been withdrawn for now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 30, 2015, 01:34:35 AM
                     @Aedipuss

           Just So Ya Know ~ I am running ML70D111B Beta2C(D) that was Built 28Nov15 @ 20.50.58UTC & All seems to be Functioning as Expected.

BTW ~ Can anybody In The Know say what Clock this Forum is running on as the latest post is Timed 12.56.35 AM 30Nov & it is Now only 12.31.** AM

30Nov (actually 00.31.** UTC 30 Nov)?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: lubo on November 30, 2015, 04:31:45 AM
I'm using the latest beta available for download, it's 26.11 working perfectly ... but can't find the latest one 29.11
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 30, 2015, 07:44:18 AM
Here again the latest test build from 29th Nov. Either run that or revert to Beta-2b from 1st page - but nothing in between please (OlRivrRat / who else?...)! removed as it was unstable

@aedipuss: how about resetting camera settings from Canon menu and CFn settings, too?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: starbase64 on November 30, 2015, 02:52:14 PM
@nikfreak

i have tested build from 29Nov, but all the functions that i use works fine.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: aedipuss on November 30, 2015, 04:59:41 PM
@nitfreak - ok - cleared all settings.  actually got nov29 to update firmware on a freshly formatted card.  turned on nothing in ml.  no modules.  turn on movie mode to record some video in mov mp4.  overlays were there this time, but camera crashed error 70 in about 10 seconds, before even attempting to record anything.  removed nov29 card, put in nov26 card, turn on camera, turn on movie mode haven't changed anything, it works fine.

errlog

Mon Nov 30 11:49:19 2015
      0:    48.277 [STARTUP]
K325 ICU Firmware Version 1.1.1 ( 8.1.3 )
      1:    48.299 [STARTUP]
ICU Release DateTime 2013.09.25 13:56:21
      2:    49.827 [PROPAD] PROPAD_CreateFROMPropertyHandle DRAMAddr 0x41744000
      3:    50.482 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x10000
      4:    51.310 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 0)
      5:    51.333 [STARTUP] startupEntry
      6:   105.399 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x7
      7:   105.586 [STARTUP] startupPropAdminMain : End
      8:   105.704 [SEQ ERROR] NotifyComplete (Cur = 1, 0x2, Flag = 0x20000000)
      9:   146.411 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 1)
     10:   146.448 [STARTUP] startupPrepareProperty
     11:   149.598 [RTC] PROPAD_GetPropertyData : PROP_RTC 0xa0
     12:   151.004 [RTC] ChangePropertyCBR 0x0, 0x4000
     13:   151.258 [RTC] RTC_Permit 0x20
     14:   151.708 [SND] Seq LPC fin
     15:   152.136 [RSC] hMemoryQueue (0x800010) hStorageQueue (0x820012)
     16:   153.104 [RSC] MemoryStatusMasterResultCBR
     17:   169.574 [FM] FM_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     18:   169.614 [MRK] MRK_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     19:   169.661 [AUDIO] [GPS] GPS_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     20:   169.729 [FM] FM_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     21:   170.167 [JOB] InitializeJobClass (ID = 1964, Num = 13)
     22:   187.608 [EM] emLockControl (TYPE_JOBSTATE = 0x0)
     23:   190.984 [JOB] InitializeInnerDevelopJobClass (ID = 1964, Num = 16)
     24:   191.020 [JOB] InitializeMultipleExposureShootJobClass ( Num = 27,11 )
     25:   191.044 [JOB] InitializeMultipleExposureSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 13 )
     26:   191.065 [JOB] InitializeHDRShootJobClass ( Num = 12 )
     27:   191.084 [JOB] InitializeHDRSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 34 )
     28:   191.107 [JOB] InitializeGISShootJobClass ( Num = 12 )
     29:   191.131 [JOB] InitializeGISSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 25, 31 )
     30:   191.244 [TERMINATE] SHUTDOWN init comp
     31:   191.300 [TERMINATE] Abort init comp
     32:   555.253 [SD] sdSendOCR: CCS=1, S18A=1
     33:   555.366 [SD] Set 1.8V Signaling
     34:   588.712 [SD] sdSendCommand: CMD2 Retry=2(SDSTS_ED)
     35:   591.901 [SD] CARD CAPACITY is 61087Mbyte( 125106176Sec )
     36:   604.359 [SD] SD_GetAccessMode=7
     37:   604.371 [SD] Set Hi-Speed Mode( 96MHz )
     38:   769.885 [FSU] fsuGetPart: Block(32768, 125073408, 125106176)
     39:   856.989 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 2)
     40:   857.385 [SHTRD] [MNAV]Init
     41:   857.606 [SHTRD] [MNAV]SetMMap:1
     42:   860.724 [ENG] [ENGIO](Addr:0x41700000, Data:0x   44000)
     43:   906.038 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 3)
     44:   907.948 [MC] PROP_GUI_STATE 0
     45:   909.068 [MC] PROP_VARIANGLE_GUICTRL : Enable
     46:   909.132 [MC] [MC] PROP_HEADPHONE_VOLUME_VALUE : 0
     47:   909.284 [MC] [MC] PROP_MOVIE_PLAY_VOLUME : 5
     48:   909.436 [MC] PROP_LCD_OFFON_BUTTON : 2
     49:   910.343 [MC] regist master CardCover
     50:   912.753 [PRP] M:B1 F:0 L:0 P:32 T:8
     51:   912.966 [STARTUP] update coded version.
     52:   913.066 [STARTUP] internal version 08:01:03:b1:00:00:32:08:00:00:d0:d0:d0
     53:   914.595 [STARTUP] Set_AVS 60
     54:   917.617 [STARTUP] startupPrepareDevelop
     55:   921.026 [PROPAD] PROPAD_CreateFROMPropertyHandle DRAMAddr 0x41b2c000
     56:   921.716 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x490000
     57:   955.842 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x7
     58:   957.277 [MAC] MAC_Initialize
     59:   957.605 [MAC] K_BOARDID4
     60:   957.644 [MAC] K_BOARDID3
     61:   957.683 [MAC] K_BOARDID2
     62:   957.708 [MAC] K_BOARDID1
     63:   957.882 [MAC] Key=0x0 Board=0x0 Body=0x15453eb7
     64:   967.678 [SHTP] RegRPCHandler Master
     65:   993.627 [MR] TimeCode Mode:1
     66:   993.730 [MR] TimeCode DropFrame Mode:1
     67:   993.765 [MR] PROP_MOVIE_PARAM:0
     68:   999.209 [HPC] ReserveHPCopyChannel (1, 116)
     69:  1011.007 [MR] encdrwrapHPCopyAsyncCBR
     70:  1013.469 [LVDTS] WARN First Get DTS_GetAllRandomData
     71:  1034.889 [STARTUP] startupPrepareRemote
     72:  1035.745 [AUDIO] RegisterCBRSDIOCableConnect
     73:  1037.704 [COM] PackHeap 794838,794838,0
     74:  1038.021 [COM] Local Heap warning hCom[0]size[262144]
     75:  1047.863 [WFT] PROP_ADAPTER_DEVICE_ACTIVE: Can Not Change(0) Connect(0)
     76:  1048.680 [WFT] InitializeAdapterControl END
     77:  1057.361 [RMT] QuickTransmissionEnable (0, 1, 2, 2)
     78:  1057.410 [RMT] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET (0x0 <= 0x0)
     79:  1057.697 [RMT] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET_WFT (0x0 <= 0x0)
     80:  1057.737 [RMT] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET_INNER (0x0 <= 0x0)
     81:  1059.522 [PTPCOM] SetPtpTransportResources:0,3253
     82:  1075.893 [WFT] Regist PropCBR PROP_WFT_BLUETOOTH
     83:  1084.010 [FC] _FC_OpenCatalog : wNumOfDir 1
     84:  1092.151 [FM] [GPS] GPS_Initialize (36, 25)
     85:  1092.709 [MRK] MRK_Initialize
     86:  1092.981 [MRK] mrkSetLockSemaphore
     87:  1093.361 [MRK] MRK_PrepareMrkFileObject
     88:  1095.513 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 4)
     89:  1095.697 [DP] DP_Initialize()
     90:  1096.365 [DP] Std T_PrintPage[0] T_PrintNo[0] R_PrintNo[0]
     91:  1096.402 [DP] Std C_PrintNo[0] C_PrintPage[0], C_Copies[0]
     92:  1096.493 [DP] Dp_SetPD_RegistApi Prev:0 New:0
     93:  1096.883 [DP] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET [0x00000000]
     94:  1096.917 [DP] DpConnectionTarget [0x00000000]
     95:  1096.973 [DP] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET_INNER [0x00000000]
     96:  1097.003 [DP] DpConnectionTarget [0x00000000]
     97:  1097.078 [DP] LOGICAL_CONNECT [0x00000000]
     98:  1097.116 [DP] DpsTerminate()
     99:  1097.196 [DP] PROP_PHYSICAL_CONNECT [0x00000000]
    100:  1097.224 [DP] RD_Cancel No Issue
    101:  1097.249 [DP] DpPhysicalConnectFlg [0x00000000]
    102:  1097.310 [DP] PROP_INNER_PHYSICAL_CONNECT [0x00000000]
    103:  1097.322 [DP] RD_Cancel No Issue
    104:  1097.343 [DP] DpPhysicalConnectFlg [0x00000000]
    105:  1097.385 [DP] PROP_NETWORK_SYSTEM [0]
    106:  1097.414 [DP] PROP_WIFI_SETTING [0]
    107:  1097.669 [DP] [GYO]DpFunctionList[0x10117fff]
    108:  1097.792 [DP] X FreeMem Address[0x00000000]
    109:  1098.112 [INDEV] INDEV_Initialize
    110:  1102.642 [HDMI] DisconnectHDMI : Not Connected
    111:  1113.470 [IMPP] H264E InitializeH264EncodeFor1080pDZoom
    112:  1113.544 [IMPP] H264E InitializeH264EncodeFor1080p25fpsDZoom
    113:  1142.482 [DP] DP_RegisterCBR() Id=1 Count:12
    114:  1142.523 [DP] DP_RegisterCBR() Id=2 Count:12
    115:  1142.544 [DP] DP_RegisterCBR() Id=4 Count:12
    116:  1142.651 [MR] tcmClockEnd
    117:  1143.282 [DISP] SetBacklightBrightness called
    118:  1154.145 [GUI] MainEventHandler PROP_ERROR_FOR_DISPLAY(0)
    119:  1167.183 [MR] PROP_MOVIE_PARAM:0
    120:  1169.269 [GUI] MainEventHandler PROP_LV_OUTPUT_DEVICE(0)
    121:  1171.474 [MR] PROP_MOVIE_PARAM:0
    122:  1174.524 [MAGIC] (Empty Func) MVW_RegisterXmpDataCallback
    123:  1176.446 [CEC]CEC OFF
    124:  1179.004 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 5)
    125:  1179.030 [STARTUP] startupInitializeComplete
    126:  1179.125 [MC] cam event guimode comp. 0
    127:  1179.973 [MC] cam event guimode comp. 0
    128:  1181.399 [DL] PROP_ACTIVE_SWEEP_STATUS (0)
    129:  1181.441 [DL] PROP_DL_ACTION (1)
    130:  1187.889 [FA] ChangeCBR(ID=0x8003000a)
    131:  1188.570 [FA] RequestFromCheckData
    132:  1188.792 [FA] MpuMonSpecificFromPartner : COM_FA_CHECK_FROM 0
    133:  1190.773 [DL] PROP_ACTIVE_SWEEP_STATUS (1)
    134:  1190.994 [DL] PROP_DL_ACTION (0)
    135:  1191.286 [DL] localCreateSerialIOChannelForDLIC
    136:  1191.362 [DL] localCreateSerialIOChannelForDLIC
    137:  1191.404 [DL] localCreateSerialIOChannelForDLIC
    138:  1191.442 [DL] localCreateSerialIOChannelForDLIC
    139:  1195.599 [DL] localCreateSerialIOChannelForDLIC
    140:  1199.729 [DL]executeDL AD Start 69
    141:  1199.825 [DL] localCreateSerialIOChannelForDLIC
    142:  1227.357 [TCH]Active_Mode SetEnd
    143:  1241.030 [TCH] [TCH]Variangle_State = 0
    144:  1245.786 [MCELL][GuiFactoryRegisterEventCommissionProcedure]
    145:  1249.009 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup) : End
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: aedipuss on November 30, 2015, 05:05:55 PM
p.s.  i got the nov29 firmware to install by formatting the card on my computer today.  it wouldn't install on a card formatted in the camera yesterday.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 30, 2015, 05:51:26 PM
      @NikFreak

   TestBuild 29Nov Seems Alive & Well here. Anything in particular that you would like tested 1st ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 30, 2015, 05:54:58 PM
@aedipuss: Format card in cardreader, format card in cam. Then copy extracted ML files to card and run install. Results?

If it works: Format card in cam with "Keep ML" option. ML still working? If not: Report back. If it works: Are you able to run firmware update without errors?
If so: Format card with "Remove ML" option. You should be unable to use this card for firmware update until you copy files over again.
Test and report results, please.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: lubo on November 30, 2015, 05:56:25 PM
Hello, flashed the 2911 version, for 10 minutes had 3 crashes when I had to remove my battery in order to restart, I'll send the archive with the logs when I find a way how to do it in the forum via my Android, because I don't have a computer here.

I haven't formatted the card, just made a copy of the 2611 version, deleted the files and directory ML, pasted the new version and copied only the MM config files from 2611 from the backup ...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 30, 2015, 06:12:59 PM
Quote from: lubo on November 30, 2015, 05:56:25 PMcopied only the MM config files from 2611 from the backup ...

You mean you copied ML\Settings\ from backup to card? Then delete all contents in ML\Settings and retry. Do you have crashes after that? Report back, please.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 30, 2015, 06:30:48 PM
                     @Lubo

           Is your 70D using M'L' 111A or 111B ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: aedipuss on November 30, 2015, 06:38:32 PM
going to test installing 29nov "A" using a freshly low level formatted card, first from comp then again formatted in camera.  it will take a bit, low level formatting is slow...................................
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 30, 2015, 06:41:05 PM
... and unnecessary.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: aedipuss on November 30, 2015, 07:10:39 PM
ok, not sure what was wrong yesterday but 29nov "A" will install firmware on card no matter how card is formatted today. 

but each time, all it takes is moving the switch to movie mode and it crashes.

latest error logs

ASSERT: 0
at ./Memory/Memory.c:575, AeWb:3db28
lv:1 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015Nov29.70D111A
Mercurial changeset   : 0a981f3d2abf+ (70D-merge-dryos-hooks) tip
Built on 2015-11-29 11:22:59 UTC by ml@ml-pc.
Free Memory  : 238K + 2466K


Mon Nov 30 14:03:46 2015
      0:    48.278 [STARTUP]
K325 ICU Firmware Version 1.1.1 ( 8.1.3 )
      1:    48.300 [STARTUP]
ICU Release DateTime 2013.09.25 13:56:21
      2:    49.823 [PROPAD] PROPAD_CreateFROMPropertyHandle DRAMAddr 0x41744000
      3:    50.477 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x10000
      4:    51.299 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 0)
      5:    51.320 [STARTUP] startupEntry
      6:   105.405 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x7
      7:   105.574 [STARTUP] startupPropAdminMain : End
      8:   105.675 [SEQ ERROR] NotifyComplete (Cur = 1, 0x2, Flag = 0x20000000)
      9:   146.635 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 1)
     10:   146.673 [STARTUP] startupPrepareProperty
     11:   150.378 [RTC] PROPAD_GetPropertyData : PROP_RTC 0xa0
     12:   151.766 [RTC] ChangePropertyCBR 0x0, 0x4000
     13:   152.013 [RTC] RTC_Permit 0x20
     14:   152.672 [SND] Seq LPC fin
     15:   153.100 [RSC] hMemoryQueue (0x800010) hStorageQueue (0x820012)
     16:   154.085 [RSC] MemoryStatusMasterResultCBR
     17:   183.004 [FM] FM_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     18:   183.046 [MRK] MRK_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     19:   183.096 [AUDIO] [GPS] GPS_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     20:   183.158 [FM] FM_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     21:   183.462 [JOB] InitializeJobClass (ID = 1964, Num = 13)
     22:   192.703 [EM] emLockControl (TYPE_JOBSTATE = 0x0)
     23:   194.876 [JOB] InitializeInnerDevelopJobClass (ID = 1964, Num = 16)
     24:   194.911 [JOB] InitializeMultipleExposureShootJobClass ( Num = 27,11 )
     25:   194.933 [JOB] InitializeMultipleExposureSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 13 )
     26:   194.954 [JOB] InitializeHDRShootJobClass ( Num = 12 )
     27:   194.974 [JOB] InitializeHDRSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 34 )
     28:   194.996 [JOB] InitializeGISShootJobClass ( Num = 12 )
     29:   195.020 [JOB] InitializeGISSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 25, 31 )
     30:   195.131 [TERMINATE] SHUTDOWN init comp
     31:   195.187 [TERMINATE] Abort init comp
     32:   202.715 [FM] fmPrepare : Completed
     33:   202.857 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 2)
     34:   203.238 [SHTRD] [MNAV]Init
     35:   203.448 [SHTRD] [MNAV]SetMMap:1
     36:   206.585 [ENG] [ENGIO](Addr:0x41700000, Data:0x   44000)
     37:   251.970 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 3)
     38:   253.855 [MC] PROP_GUI_STATE 0
     39:   254.936 [MC] PROP_VARIANGLE_GUICTRL : Enable
     40:   254.997 [MC] [MC] PROP_HEADPHONE_VOLUME_VALUE : 0
     41:   255.142 [MC] [MC] PROP_MOVIE_PLAY_VOLUME : 5
     42:   255.290 [MC] PROP_LCD_OFFON_BUTTON : 2
     43:   256.219 [MC] regist master CardCover
     44:   258.791 [PRP] M:B1 F:0 L:0 P:32 T:8
     45:   258.962 [STARTUP] update coded version.
     46:   259.032 [STARTUP] internal version 08:01:03:b1:00:00:32:08:00:00:d0:d0:d0
     47:   260.477 [STARTUP] Set_AVS 60
     48:   263.495 [STARTUP] startupPrepareDevelop
     49:   266.887 [PROPAD] PROPAD_CreateFROMPropertyHandle DRAMAddr 0x41b2c000
     50:   267.584 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x490000
     51:   301.699 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x7
     52:   303.111 [MAC] MAC_Initialize
     53:   303.452 [MAC] K_BOARDID4
     54:   303.485 [MAC] K_BOARDID3
     55:   303.519 [MAC] K_BOARDID2
     56:   303.548 [MAC] K_BOARDID1
     57:   303.718 [MAC] Key=0x0 Board=0x0 Body=0x15453eb7
     58:   313.507 [SHTP] RegRPCHandler Master
     59:   339.493 [MR] TimeCode Mode:1
     60:   339.596 [MR] TimeCode DropFrame Mode:1
     61:   339.641 [MR] PROP_MOVIE_PARAM:0
     62:   345.101 [HPC] ReserveHPCopyChannel (1, 116)
     63:   357.226 [MR] encdrwrapHPCopyAsyncCBR
     64:   360.161 [LVDTS] WARN First Get DTS_GetAllRandomData
     65:   382.218 [STARTUP] startupPrepareRemote
     66:   383.067 [AUDIO] RegisterCBRSDIOCableConnect
     67:   384.944 [COM] PackHeap 79491c,79491c,0
     68:   385.330 [COM] Local Heap warning hCom[0]size[262144]
     69:   395.047 [WFT] PROP_ADAPTER_DEVICE_ACTIVE: Can Not Change(0) Connect(0)
     70:   395.843 [WFT] InitializeAdapterControl END
     71:   404.521 [RMT] QuickTransmissionEnable (0, 1, 2, 2)
     72:   404.573 [RMT] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET (0x0 <= 0x0)
     73:   404.860 [RMT] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET_WFT (0x0 <= 0x0)
     74:   404.902 [RMT] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET_INNER (0x0 <= 0x0)
     75:   406.648 [PTPCOM] SetPtpTransportResources:0,3253
     76:   421.459 [WFT] Regist PropCBR PROP_WFT_BLUETOOTH
     77:   759.957 [SD] sdSendOCR: CCS=1, S18A=1
     78:   760.063 [SD] Set 1.8V Signaling
     79:   793.456 [SD] sdSendCommand: CMD2 Retry=2(SDSTS_ED)
     80:   796.643 [SD] CARD CAPACITY is 61087Mbyte( 125106176Sec )
     81:   809.046 [SD] SD_GetAccessMode=7
     82:   809.059 [SD] Set Hi-Speed Mode( 96MHz )
     83:   821.381 [FSU] fsuGetPart: Block(32768, 125073408, 125106176)
     84:   875.350 [FM] FileNo (DriveNo = 2, 0 <-> 1977)
     85:   875.399 [FM] FreeCluster (DriveNo = 2, 488111 <-> 488367)
     86:   876.501 [FC] _FC_OpenCatalog : wNumOfDir 1
     87:   889.339 [FM] [GPS] GPS_Initialize (36, 25)
     88:   889.896 [MRK] MRK_Initialize
     89:   890.167 [MRK] mrkSetLockSemaphore
     90:   890.534 [MRK] MRK_PrepareMrkFileObject
     91:   893.621 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 4)
     92:   893.805 [DP] DP_Initialize()
     93:   894.478 [DP] Std T_PrintPage[0] T_PrintNo[0] R_PrintNo[0]
     94:   894.510 [DP] Std C_PrintNo[0] C_PrintPage[0], C_Copies[0]
     95:   894.600 [DP] Dp_SetPD_RegistApi Prev:0 New:0
     96:   894.993 [DP] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET [0x00000000]
     97:   895.028 [DP] DpConnectionTarget [0x00000000]
     98:   895.078 [DP] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET_INNER [0x00000000]
     99:   895.104 [DP] DpConnectionTarget [0x00000000]
    100:   895.157 [DP] LOGICAL_CONNECT [0x00000000]
    101:   895.188 [DP] DpsTerminate()
    102:   895.274 [DP] PROP_PHYSICAL_CONNECT [0x00000000]
    103:   895.300 [DP] RD_Cancel No Issue
    104:   895.329 [DP] DpPhysicalConnectFlg [0x00000000]
    105:   895.379 [DP] PROP_INNER_PHYSICAL_CONNECT [0x00000000]
    106:   895.394 [DP] RD_Cancel No Issue
    107:   895.420 [DP] DpPhysicalConnectFlg [0x00000000]
    108:   895.458 [DP] PROP_NETWORK_SYSTEM [0]
    109:   895.482 [DP] PROP_WIFI_SETTING [0]
    110:   895.740 [DP] [GYO]DpFunctionList[0x10117fff]
    111:   895.857 [DP] X FreeMem Address[0x00000000]
    112:   896.175 [INDEV] INDEV_Initialize
    113:   900.713 [HDMI] DisconnectHDMI : Not Connected
    114:   911.484 [IMPP] H264E InitializeH264EncodeFor1080pDZoom
    115:   911.563 [IMPP] H264E InitializeH264EncodeFor1080p25fpsDZoom
    116:   940.645 [DP] DP_RegisterCBR() Id=1 Count:12
    117:   940.684 [DP] DP_RegisterCBR() Id=2 Count:12
    118:   940.705 [DP] DP_RegisterCBR() Id=4 Count:12
    119:   940.824 [MR] tcmClockEnd
    120:   941.476 [DISP] SetBacklightBrightness called
    121:   952.413 [GUI] MainEventHandler PROP_ERROR_FOR_DISPLAY(0)
    122:   965.480 [MR] PROP_MOVIE_PARAM:0
    123:   967.848 [GUI] MainEventHandler PROP_LV_OUTPUT_DEVICE(0)
    124:   970.100 [MR] PROP_MOVIE_PARAM:0
    125:   973.246 [MAGIC] (Empty Func) MVW_RegisterXmpDataCallback
    126:   975.135 [CEC]CEC OFF
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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 30, 2015, 07:21:12 PM
aedipuss: Please edit all your posts here and wrap logs into "code" bbcode tags.

Works like this:



ASSERT: 0
at ./Memory/Memory.c:575, AeWb:3db28
lv:1 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015Nov29.70D111A
Mercurial changeset   : 0a981f3d2abf+ (70D-merge-dryos-hooks) tip
Built on 2015-11-29 11:22:59 UTC by ml@ml-pc.
Free Memory  : 238K + 2466K


Mon Nov 30 14:03:46 2015
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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: aedipuss on November 30, 2015, 08:11:12 PM
@Walter Schulz - the code tag is normally used for html not text.  other than you don't like to scroll is there a reason?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 30, 2015, 09:32:43 PM
Scroll will be needed anyways. Posting a link to the logs would have been cleanest solution. I'd say do what Walter requested. It's indeed better readable also tomy eyes.
Title: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on November 30, 2015, 10:45:29 PM
@Everyone-

I just got my hands back on the 70D at work and downloaded the latest beta from Nov.29th (Thanks @nikfreak!) which seems all well and fine here on my end. I didn't even need to format the card or anything, other than just running the usual Canon Firmware update to reload ML.

I also tested pretty much everything for both Video and Photos which all seems OK other than Dual-ISO Video (still shows that weird Pink artifacts on the lower right corner of LiveView LCD) which is to be expected anyway. Dual-ISO Photos still work great!

As I am digging through previous post from the past several weeks trying to understand what other "issues" that have arise...

Unless I'm missing something that you guys want me to test/troubleshoot something more specific?

@aedipuss -- Agreed with others that it'd be best if you could kindly put your logs into "Insert Code" and allow us do the scrolling ourselves (it's rather easier this way) other than those long unnecessary post which actually grills our eyes out even more, please?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on November 30, 2015, 11:27:41 PM
Sean, prepare a short dualiso video (nothing big) and add a few dng's  to a folder and share a link if possible. a1ex would like to have a look at it. Maybe you can show also what artifacts shouldn't be on lcd. You do lots of dualiso on other cams so there's something wrong here.
Title: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 01, 2015, 05:21:23 AM
Absolutely, here you go...

70D
https://vimeo.com/147417207

SL1 (for comparison purposes)
https://vimeo.com/147417206

70D Dual-ISO (converted w cr2hdr-r)
https://vimeo.com/147417536

Files (for @a1ex & those that are curious)
https://mega.nz/#F!r11CnAhC!axOTipb9MBBXzVpGzeJeEQ
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: ainu on December 01, 2015, 07:22:27 AM
@nikfreak
With ML 29Nov.
2 CR2 with dual iso (800) enabled. No additional settings. First in photo mode, second in LV. ~53MB
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8RdSX_hjqTXNVI2SWNaMDBpa2M/view?usp=sharing

.MLV with dual iso (800) enabled. 5 sec video. No additional settings. ~401 MB
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8RdSX_hjqTXQjJkb281Z0xKckU/view?usp=sharing

mlv_rec.tmp ~279 MB
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8RdSX_hjqTXVUVQc0FIWUdCS0k/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: aedipuss on December 01, 2015, 05:18:34 PM
here's a video of what happens on my camera with 29nov ml



and the associated error logs

www.minidv2dvd.com/temp/error_log.zip (http://www.minidv2dvd.com/temp/error_log.zip)


ok i give, what part of the vimeo url do you put in the tags to get it to show up?  never mind you just have to http not https
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov)
Post by: nikfreak on December 01, 2015, 07:03:11 PM
Ok, I was able to reproduce aedipuss's issue while toggling AF settings.
Everybody immediately better switches back to the Beta-2b build from 1st page. You have been warned. Don't use it any more!!  :P

Links to test builds have been removed. Sometimes sh*z happens. Sorry for the inconvenience and thanx for testing and providing feedback.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: OlRivrRat on December 01, 2015, 07:43:54 PM
      @NikFreak

   Is it Possibly a Helpful Clue that the Issue Does Not occur on My Early 70D 111B F'W' ?

CORRECTION ~ Hadn't watched his SetUp Vid & was just going by his verbal description. After setting ISO to "Auto" & DualISO to 0/100 & RAW Vid(mlv) On,

my 70D111B became Unhappy in Movie Mode & Did LockUp after Rec was activated but Did Not Display any OnScreen Errors. One Batt' Removal & All was OK.

Then I set ISO to 160 & D'ISO to 200/800 & encountered No Issues in Movie Mode. Rec stopped after 6Sec due to FrameSkip'.

             WILL switch back to Beta-2b ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: nikfreak on December 01, 2015, 08:06:41 PM
For the time being I recommend everone to switch back and strictly use Beta-2b only. I wasn't able to reproduce aedipuss's issues but once it happened I even struggled to get the lcd powered on(taking battery out for several times didn't help first  :o). We will look into the issues thoroughly at a later time and the test builds didn't contain new features anyways. So please, again, switch back! You can only win when doingso or rather lose if you continue to use the test build.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: TechnoPilot on December 01, 2015, 08:08:21 PM
Interestingly though this sounds like the same issue I was having on my 70D.111B install, I just didn't have that much in my crash log...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: OlRivrRat on December 01, 2015, 08:38:44 PM
      @NikFreak

   On a separate note ~ Is there a way & if so would you be so kind as to pass on what you did for us regarding the Time Indicator & File# on to the Folks

that are Maintaining the 5DMk2 Builds ? Thanks Much again for all Your Great Efforts ~ Hope You Are Having Fun ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: aedipuss on December 01, 2015, 09:25:33 PM
sorry for being a pain in the arse but i didn't think i was crazy. 

@nitfreak - please keep up the great work, my cameras would be nikons if it weren't for guys like you.  i enjoy the extra features very much!  thx again.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: OlRivrRat on December 01, 2015, 09:45:48 PM
      @NikFreak

   Just attempted the "Aedipuss Anomaly" with Beta-2b & got 4sec of Vid before Frame Drop Stop & then during an attempt @ Playback the Cam Froze

requiring Batt' Remove to Resurrect. Not a problem for Me as I don't shoot RAW Vid or Dual ISO with my 70D due to having No Way to Process the Results.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: nikfreak on December 01, 2015, 10:14:10 PM
Hmm let's take a deep breath and re-start from scratch. Maybe also a good idea to reset settings and be rest assured that there are no leftovers from the test builds on the card. Once an "Anomaly" occurs just provide step-by-step details on how to reproduce.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: kriso on December 01, 2015, 10:52:17 PM
Hey guys! I have 70D and I use ML on 64bg card and I'd just like to thank all of you developers and testers who invest their knowledge and time into this software! Seems like 70D dosen't lends itself easy to hacking from what I read. Im so exited about the FPS override (timelapse) and Audio meters features. Wish you guys good luck, I shall report if anything occurs here!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: OlRivrRat on December 01, 2015, 11:32:47 PM
      @NikFreak

   On Your latest Recommend' I Decided to Set Aside the card I had been using the past few days & do the "Aedipuss Anomaly" test with a Card that has

been Idle since 08Aug when Alpha 7.2 was Loaded on it. The Issue occurred as soon as I Switched to Movie Mode. I seem to think it has something to do with

"Auto ISO" being "On" along with "Dual ISO". I can't imagine that that Combo makes the Processor too Happy ~ Also Can't Imagine why 1 would want to use

that Combo.

Just to be Clear ~ This Card has 08Aug Alpha 7.2 on it as I thought I would try that Prior to Cleaning it & Loading Beta-2b.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 02, 2015, 03:09:11 AM
Quote from: aedipuss on December 01, 2015, 09:25:33 PM
sorry for being a pain in the arse but i didn't think i was crazy. 

@nitfreak - please keep up the great work, my cameras would be nikons if it weren't for guys like you.  i enjoy the extra features very much!  thx again.

Glad you got it working and Thanks for reporting to us!

Quote from: nikfreak on December 01, 2015, 08:06:41 PM
For the time being I recommend everone to switch back and strictly use Beta-2b only. I wasn't able to reproduce aedipuss's issues but once it happened I even struggled to get the lcd powered on(taking battery out for several times didn't help first  :o). We will look into the issues thoroughly at a later time and the test builds didn't contain new features anyways. So please, again, switch back! You can only win when doingso or rather lose if you continue to use the test build.

Nice work and good Catch, Thanks for the clarifications!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: aedipuss on December 02, 2015, 03:34:27 AM
@ OlRivrRat it also happens if you have auto iso on and dual iso off.  it also happens if you are trying to record standard mov mp4 and not mlv or raw. it also happens with absolutely no ml modules turned on.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: nikfreak on December 02, 2015, 08:10:26 AM
If I understand you correctly then there's a hidden bug for months with ISO when set to "Auto", right? Need to reproduce first but if so then -> good catch!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: nikfreak on December 02, 2015, 05:12:17 PM
I cannot reproduce any issues atm:

Quote from: aedipuss on December 02, 2015, 03:34:27 AM
@ OlRivrRat it also happens if you have auto iso on and dual iso off.  it also happens if you are trying to record standard mov mp4 and not mlv or raw. it also happens with absolutely no ml modules turned on.


Does this definitely apply to Beta-2b or was it for the test builds? Please provide detailed step-by-step instructions on how to reproduce.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: aedipuss on December 02, 2015, 05:20:49 PM
@nikfreak - that was JUST in the test builds.  beta 2b nov26 works here, even with all modules on, auto iso, dual iso and turning on movie mode.  no crashes.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 02, 2015, 05:27:47 PM
Then please tell us which build caused the crash even with Auto ISO enabled on -- in detailed step by step if possible?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: aedipuss on December 02, 2015, 06:35:34 PM
@deafeyejedi - it was all the test builds iirc nov28 and nov29.  all i did was install a test build, use the canon menu to clear all settings, and turn the switch to movie mode and they would crash.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: aedipuss on December 02, 2015, 06:43:47 PM
let me add to that - they were clean installs.  format a card and start fresh with no possible leftover files from other builds. and used the update firmware route.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: jackouilles on December 02, 2015, 06:57:06 PM
Hello when i loook my firmware i only see 1.1.1    u dont see A or B
what version do i have to download to update my 70d ??
thank you
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: OlRivrRat on December 02, 2015, 07:09:17 PM
      @NikFreak

   Beta-2b Does seem to function with out any Odd Behaviors, even with Auto ISO + Dual ISO + RawVid(MLV) (Again ~ I'm not RawVid Savvy so just

guessing that it is acting as expected ~ no Odd Crazy colors on Display or Freezes ~ I do only get 6Sec's max but suspect that's my Card)

   08Aug Alpha 7.2 acts the same as Beta-2b with Auto ISO + RawVid(MLV) but as soon as Dual ISO is added, upon entering Movie Mode the Display

puts on a very Colorful LightShow, Rec does work & a Vid is captured & No Freezes occur.

   Seems Quite Diff' form what Aedipuss was having to deal with ~ But hope it Helps ~ Very Puzzling For Sure !
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: nikfreak on December 02, 2015, 07:16:12 PM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on December 02, 2015, 07:09:17 PM
      @NikFreak

   Beta-2b Does seem to function with out any Odd Behaviors, even with Auto ISO + Dual ISO + RawVid(MLV) (Again ~ I'm not RawVid Savvy so just

guessing that it is acting as expected ~ no Odd Crazy colors on Display or Freezes ~ I do only get 6Sec's max but suspect that's my Card)

   08Aug Alpha 7.2 acts the same as Beta-2b with Auto ISO + RawVid(MLV) but as soon as Dual ISO is added, upon entering Movie Mode the Display

puts on a very Colorful LightShow, Rec does work & a Vid is captured & No Freezes occur.

   Seems Quite Diff' form what Aedipuss was having to deal with ~ But hope it Helps ~ Very Puzzling For Sure !

Everything as it should is known to be. DeafEyeJedi posted some examples (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg158095#msg158095) which I hope a1ex has some time to look at. Knowing that 5D2, 7D and 50D also got troubles with dualiso chances are rare atm that I can get it to work without help from a1ex.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: Walter Schulz on December 02, 2015, 07:51:29 PM
Quote from: jackouilles on December 02, 2015, 06:57:06 PMwhat version do i have to download to update my 70d ??

Mind reading first post of this thread?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: jackouilles on December 03, 2015, 09:38:41 AM
Hello everybody...
Do the automatic release by movement works on the 70d with beta2 version ?
thank you
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: nikfreak on December 03, 2015, 09:47:30 AM
Quote from 1st post:

QuoteTrap focus only works in photo mode (not Liveview)...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: jackouilles on December 03, 2015, 10:00:57 AM
Ok thank you will wait for futures versions
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: MatthewD on December 05, 2015, 09:53:42 PM
I recently installed for first time ML, am very impressed with it.

Possible bugs :
- I follow install instruction from 1st post (B version)
- Installed all modules
- Played around with some features (can't remember exactly what i played with, but i followed some of the features covered in this vid : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au3xaQi-vHo
  1) One of the photos i took had weird color distortions (over exposed + horizontal lines going across) img01 https://www.dropbox.com/s/fmu2ygd9rjtq3w7/ML_img01.png?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/fmu2ygd9rjtq3w7/ML_img01.png?dl=0)
  2) When in liveview and then enter ML menu within a few seconds it automatically jumps me back to the liveview (doesn't happen if i wasn't in liveview)
- Play with the game Arkanoid for couple of minutes
- Then decided i was unlikely to rec video in RAW so uninstalled all the modules that seemed related to that.
- Restarted
  3) Error messages on screen img02 https://www.dropbox.com/s/nem158pu9eug07i/ML_img02.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/nem158pu9eug07i/ML_img02.jpg?dl=0)  & after remove battery img03 https://www.dropbox.com/s/p1yjy1s39hnb68c/ML_img03.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/p1yjy1s39hnb68c/ML_img03.jpg?dl=0)
Solution to uninstall ML and copy a fresh version of ML files to SD card and reinstall

I tried to reproduced the bug by simply uninstalling the same modules, but wasn't able to reproduce error msgs.

Anyone else experienced this?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: Walter Schulz on December 06, 2015, 02:22:02 AM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5951.msg158307#msg158307
It would have been just sufficient to
- load mlv_rec.mo
or
- unload mlv_snd.mo
or
- Prefs -> Config files -> Restore ML defaults
or
- manually delete contents in ML\settings
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: ainu on December 06, 2015, 06:32:17 PM
I'm test Trap focus in continuous mode with Sigma 18-50 and 10-20 and found some strange  behavior.

No ML modules are loaded/
1. Turn on camera.
2. Go to ML menu and set Trap focus -> continuous
3. Switch lens to MF
4. Start rotate focus ring. When objects in focus, camera shoot foto - it's ok.
5. As described in user guide, I press "the shutter halfway to unlock" buttons  for two seconds, it happened nothing, buttons remained are blocked. The diode on a memory card cover constantly burns with red light.
The camera continues to do pictures, at hit of object in focus.
In the standard Canon menu control of viewing of a picture within 2 seconds after shooting is exposed.
At display of the photo after shooting, I manage only to try to remove it (the inquiry of confirmation of removal is output) then the screen is switched-off and doesn't react to buttons.
6. Swith lens to AF. Buttons remained are blocked.
7. I press "the shutter halfway to unlock" buttons  for two seconds, it happened nothing.

In this case I must turn of camera and tutn it on to make buttons unlock.

"Trap focus -> Hold AF button" works fine.

Someone can confirm the same behavior on the camera?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: MatthewD on December 08, 2015, 10:56:59 AM
Thank you Walter.
I'm still experiencing
- 2) When in liveview and then enter ML menu within a few seconds it automatically jumps me back to the liveview (doesn't happen if i wasn't in liveview)
Can't seem to see anyone else talking about this in the forum --> I can film it if that's helpful

(I know it's a beta, so just giving this as feedback :-) 
I love the work and have been sending btc to share expenses etc ... if i can do anything else, do say
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: PrasadVedvikhyat on December 08, 2015, 11:09:48 AM
Quote from: MatthewD on December 08, 2015, 10:56:59 AM
Thank you Walter.
I'm still experiencing
- 2) When in liveview and then enter ML menu within a few seconds it automatically jumps me back to the liveview (doesn't happen if i wasn't in liveview)
Can't seem to see anyone else talking about this in the forum --> I can film it if that's helpful

(I know it's a beta, so just giving this as feedback :-) 
I love the work and have been sending btc to share expenses etc ... if i can do anything else, do say

Please read the "What's not working" section on the first page.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: camslide on December 09, 2015, 12:39:11 PM
Yesterday I was recording a timelapse using silent mode. Is it possible to compute "pictures left" after each shot? Got an error when I tried to take a picture after card was full. Top display showed me 925 pictures left. Don't know if it's useful, but I attached the error log.

Tue Dec  8 22:44:26 2015
      0:    48.189 [STARTUP]
K325 ICU Firmware Version 1.1.1 ( 8.1.2 )
      1:    48.220 [STARTUP]
ICU Release DateTime 2013.07.24 15:17:33
      2:    50.141 [PROPAD] PROPAD_CreateFROMPropertyHandle DRAMAddr 0x41744000
      3:    50.797 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x10000
      4:    51.669 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 0)
      5:    51.694 [STARTUP] startupEntry
      6:   106.102 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x7
      7:   106.311 [STARTUP] startupPropAdminMain : End
      8:   106.437 [SEQ ERROR] NotifyComplete (Cur = 1, 0x2, Flag = 0x20000000)
      9:   731.867 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 1)
     10:   731.906 [STARTUP] startupPrepareProperty
     11:   738.815 [RTC] PROPAD_GetPropertyData : PROP_RTC 0xa0
     12:   740.280 [RTC] ChangePropertyCBR 0x0, 0x4000
     13:   740.538 [RTC] RTC_Permit 0x20
     14:   740.993 [SND] Seq LPC fin
     15:   741.422 [RSC] hMemoryQueue (0x800010) hStorageQueue (0x820012)
     16:   742.547 [RSC] MemoryStatusMasterResultCBR
     17:   761.755 [FM] FM_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     18:   761.803 [MRK] MRK_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     19:   761.855 [AUDIO] [GPS] GPS_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     20:   761.919 [FM] FM_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     21:   762.180 [JOB] InitializeJobClass (ID = 21756, Num = 13)
     22:   767.068 [EM] emLockControl (TYPE_JOBSTATE = 0x0)
     23:   768.761 [JOB] InitializeInnerDevelopJobClass (ID = 21756, Num = 16)
     24:   768.794 [JOB] InitializeMultipleExposureShootJobClass ( Num = 27,11 )
     25:   768.819 [JOB] InitializeMultipleExposureSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 13 )
     26:   768.842 [JOB] InitializeHDRShootJobClass ( Num = 12 )
     27:   768.864 [JOB] InitializeHDRSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 34 )
     28:   768.889 [JOB] InitializeGISShootJobClass ( Num = 12 )
     29:   768.914 [JOB] InitializeGISSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 25, 31 )
     30:   769.033 [TERMINATE] SHUTDOWN init comp
     31:   769.094 [TERMINATE] Abort init comp
     32:  1295.561 [SD] sdSendOCR: CCS=1, S18A=0
     33:  1298.799 [SD] CARD CAPACITY is 30959Mbyte( 63404032Sec )
     34:  1311.670 [SD] SD_GetAccessMode=3
     35:  1311.688 [SD] Set Hi-Speed Mode( 48MHz )
     36:  1313.063 [FSU] fsuGetPart: Block(8192, 63395840, 63404032)
     37:  1876.777 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 2)
     38:  1877.200 [SHTRD] [MNAV]Init
     39:  1877.480 [SHTRD] [MNAV]SetMMap:1
     40:  1880.966 [ENG] [ENGIO](Addr:0x41700000, Data:0x   44000)
     41:  1926.736 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 3)
     42:  1928.916 [MC] PROP_GUI_STATE 0
     43:  1930.160 [MC] PROP_VARIANGLE_GUICTRL : Enable
     44:  1930.247 [MC] [MC] PROP_HEADPHONE_VOLUME_VALUE : 0
     45:  1930.417 [MC] [MC] PROP_MOVIE_PLAY_VOLUME : 9
     46:  1930.593 [MC] PROP_LCD_OFFON_BUTTON : 2
     47:  1931.602 [MC] regist master CardCover
     48:  1934.238 [PRP] M:B1 F:0 L:0 P:32 T:8
     49:  1934.424 [STARTUP] update coded version.
     50:  1934.556 [STARTUP] internal version 08:01:02:b1:00:00:32:08:00:00:d0:d0:d0
     51:  1938.609 [STARTUP] Set_AVS 60
     52:  1941.640 [STARTUP] startupPrepareDevelop
     53:  1945.258 [PROPAD] PROPAD_CreateFROMPropertyHandle DRAMAddr 0x41b2c000
     54:  1945.946 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x490000
     55:  1980.247 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x7
     56:  1981.728 [MAC] MAC_Initialize
     57:  1982.126 [MAC] K_BOARDID4
     58:  1982.185 [MAC] K_BOARDID3
     59:  1982.232 [MAC] K_BOARDID2
     60:  1982.272 [MAC] K_BOARDID1
     61:  1982.453 [MAC] Key=0x0 Board=0x0 Body=0x585b856b
     62:  1994.372 [SHTP] RegRPCHandler Master
     63:  2021.500 [MR] TimeCode Mode:1
     64:  2021.634 [MR] TimeCode DropFrame Mode:1
     65:  2021.679 [MR] PROP_MOVIE_PARAM:0
     66:  2027.434 [HPC] ReserveHPCopyChannel (1, 116)
     67:  2039.513 [MR] encdrwrapHPCopyAsyncCBR
     68:  2044.876 [LVDTS] WARN First Get DTS_GetAllRandomData
     69:  2054.472 [LVCOM] ExecuteDefectMarge1[0x41fc7000:64512]
     70:  2055.320 [LVCOM] A:[38] B:[5928]
     71:  2058.617 [LVCOM] ExecuteDefectMarge2[0x41fd6c00:64512]
     72:  2059.137 [LVCOM] A:[24] B:[3510]
     73:  2061.455 [LVCOM] ExecuteDefectMarge3[0x41de8400:45056]
     74:  2061.903 [LVCOM] A:[20] B:[2974]
     75:  2063.775 [LVCOM] ExecuteDefectMarge4[0x41fe6800:104448]
     76:  2069.974 [LVCOM] ExecuteDefectMarge5[0x41df3400:52224]
     77:  2091.263 [STARTUP] startupPrepareRemote
     78:  2092.160 [AUDIO] RegisterCBRSDIOCableConnect
     79:  2094.328 [COM] PackHeap 7983b8,7983b8,0
     80:  2094.666 [COM] Local Heap warning hCom[0]size[262144]
     81:  2104.444 [WFT] PROP_ADAPTER_DEVICE_ACTIVE: Can Not Change(0) Connect(0)
     82:  2105.350 [WFT] InitializeAdapterControl END
     83:  2116.314 [RMT] QuickTransmissionEnable (0, 1, 2, 2)
     84:  2116.363 [RMT] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET (0x0 <= 0x0)
     85:  2116.691 [RMT] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET_WFT (0x0 <= 0x0)
     86:  2116.733 [RMT] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET_INNER (0x0 <= 0x0)
     87:  2118.709 [PTPCOM] SetPtpTransportResources:0,3253
     88:  2140.135 [WFT] Regist PropCBR PROP_WFT_BLUETOOTH
     89:  2148.516 [FC] _FC_OpenCatalog : wNumOfDir 1
     90:  2155.330 [FM] [GPS] GPS_Initialize (36, 25)
     91:  2155.909 [MRK] MRK_Initialize
     92:  2156.189 [MRK] mrkSetLockSemaphore
     93:  2156.605 [MRK] MRK_PrepareMrkFileObject
     94:  2159.010 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 4)
     95:  2159.200 [DP] DP_Initialize()
     96:  2159.935 [DP] Std T_PrintPage[0] T_PrintNo[0] R_PrintNo[0]
     97:  2159.975 [DP] Std C_PrintNo[0] C_PrintPage[0], C_Copies[0]
     98:  2160.078 [DP] Dp_SetPD_RegistApi Prev:0 New:0
     99:  2160.487 [DP] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET [0x00000000]
    100:  2160.526 [DP] DpConnectionTarget [0x00000000]
    101:  2160.592 [DP] PROP_CONNECT_TARGET_INNER [0x00000000]
    102:  2160.631 [DP] DpConnectionTarget [0x00000000]
    103:  2160.691 [DP] LOGICAL_CONNECT [0x00000000]
    104:  2160.720 [DP] DpsTerminate()
    105:  2160.822 [DP] PROP_PHYSICAL_CONNECT [0x00000000]
    106:  2160.853 [DP] RD_Cancel No Issue
    107:  2160.884 [DP] DpPhysicalConnectFlg [0x00000000]
    108:  2160.950 [DP] PROP_INNER_PHYSICAL_CONNECT [0x00000000]
    109:  2160.968 [DP] RD_Cancel No Issue
    110:  2160.992 [DP] DpPhysicalConnectFlg [0x00000000]
    111:  2161.043 [DP] PROP_NETWORK_SYSTEM [1]
    112:  2161.080 [DP] PROP_WIFI_SETTING [0]
    113:  2161.344 [DP] [GYO]DpFunctionList[0x10117fff]
    114:  2161.468 [DP] X FreeMem Address[0x00000000]
    115:  2161.828 [INDEV] INDEV_Initialize
    116:  2167.111 [HDMI] DisconnectHDMI : Not Connected
    117:  2178.748 [IMPP] H264E InitializeH264EncodeFor1080pDZoom
    118:  2178.826 [IMPP] H264E InitializeH264EncodeFor1080p25fpsDZoom
    119:  2210.700 [DP] DP_RegisterCBR() Id=1 Count:12
    120:  2210.741 [DP] DP_RegisterCBR() Id=2 Count:12
    121:  2210.768 [DP] DP_RegisterCBR() Id=4 Count:12
    122:  2210.889 [MR] tcmClockEnd
    123:  2211.563 [DISP] SetBacklightBrightness called
    124:  2229.117 [GUI] MainEventHandler PROP_ERROR_FOR_DISPLAY(0)
    125:  2251.003 [GUI] MainEventHandler PROP_LV_OUTPUT_DEVICE(0)
    126:  2253.436 [MAGIC] (Empty Func) MVW_RegisterXmpDataCallback
    127:  2254.677 [CEC]CEC ON
    128:  2256.848 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 5)
    129:  2256.873 [STARTUP] startupInitializeComplete
    130:  2256.967 [MC] cam event guimode comp. 0
    131:  2257.896 [MC] cam event guimode comp. 0
    132:  2259.400 [DL] PROP_ACTIVE_SWEEP_STATUS (0)
    133:  2259.449 [DL] PROP_DL_ACTION (1)
    134:  2262.564 [FA] ChangeCBR(ID=0x8003000a)
    135:  2263.285 [FA] RequestFromCheckData
    136:  2269.479 [MCELL][GuiFactoryRegisterEventCommissionProcedure]
    137:  2272.604 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup) : End
    138:  2297.302 [TCH]Active_Mode SetEnd
    139:  2297.697 [TCH] [TCH]Variangle_State = 0
    140:  2339.129 [DP] PROP_WIFI_SETTING [0]
    141:  2339.461 [DP] PROP_NETWORK_SYSTEM [1]
    142:  2341.219 [MR] PROP_MOVIE_PARAM:0
    143:  2348.039 [DP] PROP_WIFI_SETTING [0]
    144:  2348.616 [DP] PROP_NETWORK_SYSTEM [1]
    145:  2349.748 [MR] PROP_MOVIE_PARAM:0
    146:  2368.717 [MR] PROP_MOVIE_PARAM:0
    147:  2371.673 [MR] PROP_MOVIE_PARAM:0
    148:  2374.835 [FA] MpuMonSpecificFromPartner : COM_FA_CHECK_FROM 0
    149:  2413.815 [DL] PROP_ACTIVE_SWEEP_STATUS (1)
    150:  2478.953 [DL] PROP_DL_ACTION (0)
    151:  2479.242 [DL] localCreateSerialIOChannelForDLIC
    152:  2479.326 [DL] localCreateSerialIOChannelForDLIC
    153:  2479.390 [DL] localCreateSerialIOChannelForDLIC
    154:  2479.444 [DL] localCreateSerialIOChannelForDLIC
    155:  2483.615 [DL] localCreateSerialIOChannelForDLIC
    156:  2487.730 [DL]executeDL AD Start 69
    157:  2487.808 [DL] localCreateSerialIOChannelForDLIC

I'm using beta2b/26th Nov
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: devomk on December 11, 2015, 07:09:16 AM
Hi guys.. Sry for the nooby question. Does 70D with ML got clean video output in a case if i use external recorder (Atomos for example)?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: TechnoPilot on December 11, 2015, 07:54:44 AM
Quote from: devomk on December 11, 2015, 07:09:16 AM
Hi guys.. Sry for the nooby question. Does 70D with ML got clean video output in a case if i use external recorder (Atomos for example)?
Nope, sorry not possible with current knowledge for the Digic 5 as I've already been told.  i.e. not currently and probably never will be possible without really in-depth hacking of the processor which has not happened yet for any camera, let alone the 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: ShootMeAlready on December 11, 2015, 05:49:08 PM
Dev & TechnoP

Clean outs are possible.  Check my post, it really needs to be a sticky.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg157764#msg157764

The part I am not sure is Atmos as I dont use it. But I thought its interface (record, stop)
is integrated with canon interface, not sure if those commands work with ML in place. 
Check it out and let us know if it works with ML clean outs.


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: TechnoPilot on December 11, 2015, 10:54:03 PM
Quote from: ShootMeAlready on December 11, 2015, 05:49:08 PM
Dev & TechnoP

Clean outs are possible.  Check my post, it really needs to be a sticky.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg157764#msg157764

The part I am not sure is Atmos as I dont use it. But I thought its interface (record, stop)
is integrated with canon interface, not sure if those commands work with ML in place. 
Check it out and let us know if it works with ML clean outs.
Hi ShootMeAlready, thanks for the info, but honestly to my intruptation and consideration, clean output does not involve crop, especially on 720p for a camera that shoots 1080p internal.  This would simply not be worth it for any external recording as the image quality regardless of codec would be less then the camera's internal 1080p image.

I personally considered Black Magic Video Assist until I discovered this drawback and then scrubbed it completely as an option for any 70D rig.

Dev, I'm sorry I should have referenced ShootMeAlready's thread, but when you talk about recording to an Atomos, I struck that completely as a reasonable option as what you'd consider "clean out"

Sorry for any confusion, I wish there was a true clean out option from Canon on our camera like that of the 7D mkII.  It seems so stupid for Canon to not provide something they clearly, easily can for those of us that want touchscreen dual-pixel AF (I didn't buy the 70D due to the price difference over the 7D mkII).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: ShootMeAlready on December 12, 2015, 03:35:01 PM
TechP

I think720p clean outs is perfectly good for internet streaming.  Some folks might want to cover and event or shoot an internet series with their 70D, and its quite suitable for that.  However you should really have EOS utility or DSLR controller on the usb, as you want to be able to pull focus through the mouse/screen.  This makes up for a blanked LCD (sheesh what a poor design to blank the LCD IMHO).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: TechnoPilot on December 13, 2015, 08:12:43 PM
Hey Nikfreak, I've been doing some research and learning on timelapse cinematography using ML and I'm curious if it might be possible in future to integrate the Advanced Intervalometer module into the 70D build?  Is it something you have considered and found a stumbling block?  Or just something you haven't looked at yet?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: TechnoPilot on December 13, 2015, 08:18:06 PM
Quote from: ShootMeAlready on December 12, 2015, 03:35:01 PM
TechP

I think720p clean outs is perfectly good for internet streaming.  Some folks might want to cover and event or shoot an internet series with their 70D, and its quite suitable for that.  However you should really have EOS utility or DSLR controller on the usb, as you want to be able to pull focus through the mouse/screen.  This makes up for a blanked LCD (sheesh what a poor design to blank the LCD IMHO).
This is true, I had not considered that usage, however for using the camera in an internet streaming role, I've instead just used this software and the USB connection without the need for ML and providing full control (Nikon or Canon):

http://sparkosoft.com/sparkocam

This seems like a better option all around as long as you can run a Windows environment, unless you want you use a wireless HDMI live broadcast system (usually well north of $2,000), but then I question why you are using the 70D and not at least moving up to a camera that has clean HDMI out.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: Walter Schulz on December 13, 2015, 08:20:00 PM
@TechnoPilot: You're addressing the wrong person. It's up to dmilligan to create a pull request in main repository. IMO, of course.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: dmilligan on December 13, 2015, 09:44:03 PM
The idea behind modules is that they are camera independent and can be distributed separately. There's no real reason advanced intervalometer needs to be configured into the main repo. It's easier if I just maintain it myself. You can find the download link is in the first post: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8431.0

I don't see any reason it wouldn't work with 70D, but you never know until you try it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: TechnoPilot on December 13, 2015, 10:13:19 PM
Quote from: dmilligan on December 13, 2015, 09:44:03 PM
The idea behind modules is that they are camera independent and can be distributed separately. There's no real reason advanced intervalometer needs to be configured into the main repo. It's easier if I just maintain it myself. You can find the download link is in the first post: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8431.0

I don't see any reason it wouldn't work with 70D, but you never know until you try it.
Awesome, thanks for the link and explanation @dmilligan, I've downloaded the module and will try it out in the 2B beta!  Sorry for my newbieness on how modules work!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 14, 2015, 05:55:36 PM
As expected the adv_int module works flawlessly for all of my cameras including 70D, Thanks @dmilligan for maintaining it and better yet for keeping it online as an option for us to use. [emoji106]
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: kriso on December 14, 2015, 06:37:44 PM
Any idea if we are far away from headphone monitoring feature (using the a/v out to monitor audio on your headphones with the canon cable while video rec) and working fps override for the 70D?

Canon 70D - 70D.111A 26th November: Beta-2b
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: aedipuss on December 15, 2015, 10:27:17 PM
@ kriso - i believe the answer is back in the thread if you read through it.  iirc the answer at least for the audio part is it's probably not going to happen for any of the digic 5 cameras.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on December 16, 2015, 04:59:42 PM
Quote from: kriso on December 14, 2015, 06:37:44 PM
Any idea if we are far away from headphone monitoring feature (using the a/v out to monitor audio on your headphones with the canon cable while video rec) and working fps override for the 70D?

Canon 70D - 70D.111A 26th November: Beta-2b
Quote from: aedipuss on December 15, 2015, 10:27:17 PM
@ kriso - i believe the answer is back in the thread if you read through it.  iirc the answer is it's probably not going to happen for any of the digic 5 cameras.

@aedipuss - That's not entirely true...  Although it appears that is the case for headphone monitoring, that is not the case for fps override.

@kris - Last I remember, nikfreak thought a1ex had an idea that may fix the fps override issues.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: kriso on December 16, 2015, 06:19:51 PM
On the headphone monitoring: I use canon factory made cable  (a/v out to cinch) + 3.5 mm adapter to plug the headphones. Im only getting loud noise in my ears and the LCD screen turns immediately black after I plug the cable into the dslr. It dosen't matter modes. Just the noise seems to change a bit every time I press any of buttons.

Canon 70D - 70D.111A 26th November: Beta-2b
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on December 16, 2015, 06:38:55 PM
Quote from: kriso on December 16, 2015, 06:19:51 PM
On the headphone monitoring: I use canon factory made cable  (a/v out to cinch) + 3.5 mm adapter to plug the headphones. Im only getting loud noise in my ears and the LCD screen turns immediately black after I plug the cable into the dslr. It dosen't matter modes. Just the noise seems to change a bit every time I press any of buttons.

Canon 70D - 70D.111A 26th November: Beta-2b
@kriso --
The screen is going to go blank because you are plugging into an "Audio / Video" jack, so it switches off the built-in screen. 

The headphones are not as easy as you are trying to make it.  That jack has a mono line-level output for audio.  First problem is that your impedance is going to be way off by trying to plug directly into headphones.  Secondly, if you are not using an adapter made specifically for this purposes, you are shorting two of the contacts together that shouldn't be.  Thirdly, there is no proper amplification to drive the headphones inductor.   
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: TechnoPilot on December 16, 2015, 07:10:43 PM
Quote from: kriso on December 16, 2015, 06:19:51 PM
On the headphone monitoring: I use canon factory made cable  (a/v out to cinch) + 3.5 mm adapter to plug the headphones. Im only getting loud noise in my ears and the LCD screen turns immediately black after I plug the cable into the dslr. It dosen't matter modes. Just the noise seems to change a bit every time I press any of buttons.

Canon 70D - 70D.111A 26th November: Beta-2b
You should be very careful, as stated you are potentially shorting out connections.  The 70D ML firmware is not setup to allow headphone monitoring, it is something that I've been told might just not be possible with the Digic 5 processor.  Also I will point out that the cable to allow headphone monitoring on the cameras that have this hack in ML, still use a specially modified Canon cable to allow it to work and make the proper connections.  Just my two cents of advice.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: kriso on December 16, 2015, 11:21:20 PM
Im aware that there is no Headphone monitoring on 70D yet. Did what I did out of ignorance and curiosity...
This is the video tutorial I've watched first: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnEtj5l3acs
In the begining of it the host lists the camera models which work in this fashion and the 70D is NOT included. But I have 60D, should I try this with it?

Canon 70D - 70D.111A 26th November: Beta-2b
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: aedipuss on December 17, 2015, 12:37:55 AM
@ kriso - the ml audio functions such as headphone monitoring work fine on my 60d with ml installed.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: gweglarz on December 18, 2015, 10:05:15 PM
How can I participate in the 70D Beta?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-2b / 26th Nov) - Use only downloadable zip from 1st page
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on December 18, 2015, 11:32:51 PM
Quote from: gweglarz on December 18, 2015, 10:05:15 PM
How can I participate in the 70D Beta?

@gweglarz -- Please read the 1st post from the first page (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg137793#msg137793), and download the beta from the link provided there.

Welcome aboard!!  :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: nikfreak on December 22, 2015, 06:18:26 PM
build synched with main tree.
1st post updated.

have fun and merry X-MAS
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 22, 2015, 06:33:45 PM
Excellent timing as always and Thanks for a Very Merry Christmas ... Stay Warm! [emoji319]
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: aedipuss on December 22, 2015, 07:27:43 PM
thank you nikfreak!  merry christmas and happy holidays!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: hardtmuth on December 23, 2015, 08:46:06 AM
Great news, unfortunately I've loaded (for the 1st time in my lif :)  ) ML with older version yesterday a moment before update of the first post:). I must update it with the newest version today.

Right now I'm testing it and one time I "bricked" my 70D but I think that this was a problem with flat battery (last time I remember it has about 15%). I was removing it, removing card, nothing was happening (only red led was blinking). When I've placed new, fresh accu everything started to rise and shine.

Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: MaLiBoO on December 23, 2015, 11:04:18 AM
@nikfreak sorry to ask, but could you please explain what is made in this build? what you mean with "build synched with main tree"?

Thank you!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: starbase64 on December 23, 2015, 02:26:05 PM
@MaLiBoO

Changelog is in 1st Post

@nikfreak

no problems here with DEZ22 build
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: MaLiBoO on December 23, 2015, 03:18:30 PM
@starbase64 - I know that, but as you can see, it says the same

22th Dec: Beta-3
•synched with main tree (a1ex merged some PR's into unified)
•Check source for details

So, again sorry for my short knowledge, but I have no idea what was implemented.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: aedipuss on December 24, 2015, 01:19:56 AM
@maliboo - if you followed the instructions in the changelog you would find what had changed in the source file - https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/commits/branch/70D-merge
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: spike on December 24, 2015, 01:28:40 AM
Thanks for the update, have been using beta 2 for a few weeks and really like it! Steep learning curve with all the quirks but overall awesome!

One newbie question is, when I goto the help section, it says I am missing the help files/documentation. I have search around and cannot see any extra files I can put on the SD to have help available??

cheers!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: dussan007 on December 24, 2015, 03:55:48 AM
Hey Everyone, hope someone knows about this issue already and want's to help me.

I've been working with the Magic Lantern beta for the Canon 70D for months.  Today my camera froze out of nowhere while I was checking up some settings to record some video (RAW recording was inactive).

After that, I turned it off and the screen was still showing on, frozen.

I removed the battery and that turned the camera off. Now it's totally dead. It won't turn back on, the LED light doesn't activate when I change batteries or cards. I've tried everything, even some youtube video solutions but nothing is helping me.

Do you know what could this be? Any help?

Sincerely,
Dussán
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: TechnoPilot on December 24, 2015, 07:53:14 AM
Hi all,

So I've run into a rather serious freezing problem myself.  My camera will reliably lockup while stored in my bag and turned off with a micro sd card running Beta 2 on it in the camera.  When I try to turn it on after taking it out, it is as if the battery is dead, however if I turn remove the battery and then the sd card and then reinsert the battery with the ML loaded card out, the camera will boot.  I can then reinstall the card and reboot to get into ML.  This lockup has occurred quite reliably when simply switching off and back on the camera.  This was not an issue I was having until recently, the only change I have done is started using mode specific boot settings (Edit: I also added the advanced intervalometer module).

Any thoughts guys?  I'm going to move up to the Beta 3 for the time being and see if I can replicate the issue.

Cheers,
Sean
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: nikfreak on December 24, 2015, 08:03:45 AM
@dussan07: I only experienced freezes when using electronic level and facetracking being enabled (see 1st post). It might be useful to know which setting you exactly tried to change when your cam froze. Try to use another battery and also check your battery card door. Switch your cam to "C" mode. Your cam should at least boot up without a sdcard inserted...

@Technopilot: Please remove the links, especially the first one. It's the ROM dump which isn't allowed to be posted publicly and yes, please try to replicate with 22th Dec build as your config files indicate the use of the previous Beta-2b build. Does your issue only happen with that micro-sdcard+adapter??

If you got crashes then the cam might have put LOG files starting with CRASH../ASSERT.. on your sdcard. These are the interesting ones to post.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: dussan007 on December 24, 2015, 05:21:07 PM
I was not in the ML display when camera froze. I was going to record the usual canon format and I was setting up the ALL-i option in the canon display. Raw settings where turned off... I remember that MLV sound was on at the time.

Cam is still dead. Doesn't boot on "C" mode and the battery card door seems Ok as usual.

I'm worried if it's an internal error.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: TechnoPilot on December 24, 2015, 05:32:24 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on December 24, 2015, 08:03:45 AM
@dussan07: I only experienced freezes when using electronic level and facetracking being enabled (see 1st post). It might be useful to know which setting you exactly tried to change when your cam froze. Try to use another battery and also check your battery card door. Switch your cam to "C" mode. Your cam should at least boot up without a sdcard inserted...

@Technopilot: Please remove the links, especially the first one. It's the ROM dump which isn't allowed to be posted publicly and yes, please try to replicate with 22th Dec build as your config files indicate the use of the previous Beta-2b build. Does your issue only happen with that micro-sdcard+adapter??

If you got crashes then the cam might have put LOG files starting with CRASH../ASSERT.. on your sdcard. These are the interesting ones to post.
Oops, sorry for that, they've been removed!  Sadly there were no crash logs.  It locked up only while off, refusing to boot, requiring battery and SD card removal to restore camera function.

I reformatted and started with a fresh install with the new build, just transferring over my settings folder and the additional module and so far no issues, the lockup is gone.  I tried different adapters, this didn't change it, this reformat did though.

Anyways, having fun on Beta 3 now, will let you know my experiences.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: shakenda on December 28, 2015, 07:16:08 PM
I apologize if this has been asked and answered, but I unfortunately don't have time to read through all of the posts in this thread.  I've been using the firmware for a couple weeks (I've got 2 70Ds, one uses the A firmware and the other uses the B).  On both cameras I notice some numbers and letters showing up in the upper-right corner of the screen after shooting video for a while (10 minutes, maybe).  If I remember correctly they are either red characters in a white box or white characters in a red box.  Can someone tell me what these indicate.  I thought maybe they were trying to convey there was a problem with the recording, but so far I haven't noticed any problems with the recorded videos.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: OlRivrRat on December 29, 2015, 05:59:30 PM
      Shakenda

   Would be helpful to have a More Accurate Description of what you are asking about & to know which Build of ML you are running.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: aedipuss on December 29, 2015, 06:19:10 PM
my thought was it's probably the canon temperature warning
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on December 30, 2015, 09:10:48 PM
Question out there.  When using ML in video mode, with the ML liveview screen, is there an easy way to turn AIservo off/on.???
I looked at customization but cant seem to find much for AIservo.
Presently I keep hitting info button & going through Canon screen. 
Would be nice if ML screen had AIservo on/off option.

Answer:  I found an answer. It was in the comment section.  Use the flash button in movie mode, it will turn off movie servo off/on.
This made my day, as now I can keep the focus peaks, zebras, and rgb histo on the ML screen.
http://blog.dojoklo.com/2013/08/15/canon-70d-tips-and-tricks-custom-controls/

So we dont need an ML button for servo on/off.  Thought to share for those who like me luv luv luv the ML video screen.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: grey on December 31, 2015, 01:35:11 AM
What about MagicZoom activation during recording video? But in idle all fine. It only work when i set it to Focus ring. What i do wrong? Why MZ do not switchig on by pressing Zoom in button?
Title: Card can't handle ML at 720p
Post by: thebkangsta on January 01, 2016, 08:32:38 AM
I'm running a Sandisk Extreme Pro 95mb/s with a Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 lens. I've seen people record at the highest res for about 15 seconds, but I can only get 5 seconds. I can't even get continuous 720p. I can only go up to 960x540. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 01, 2016, 10:56:41 AM
Check if you are using exFAT file system. If not: Format card in cardreader with exFAT fs. Use EOScard (PC) or MacBoot (OS X) to make card bootable.
(If using EOScard: Delete ML directory, autoexec.bin and *.FIR from card's root).
Copy extracted build to card and retry.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Canniballissimo on January 01, 2016, 04:23:19 PM
thebkangsta, just say what speed indicated in the records?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 01, 2016, 06:18:11 PM
      thebkangsta

   You might also run a BenchMark Test on your Card to see what its WriteSpeed Really Is.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: thebkangsta on January 01, 2016, 10:42:26 PM
Quote from: Canniballissimo on January 01, 2016, 04:23:19 PM
thebkangsta, just say what speed indicated in the records?
Quote from: Walter Schulz on January 01, 2016, 10:56:41 AM
Check if you are using exFAT file system. If not: Format card in cardreader with exFAT fs. Use EOScard (PC) or MacBoot (OS X) to make card bootable.
(If using EOScard: Delete ML directory, autoexec.bin and *.FIR from card's root).
Copy extracted build to card and retry.
Quote from: OlRivrRat on January 01, 2016, 06:18:11 PM
      thebkangsta

   You might also run a BenchMark Test on your Card to see what its WriteSpeed Really Is.

On ML, it shows I'm writing at speeds around 39 mb/s.  I just ran a test using IsMyHdOK and have 87.17 mb/s write speed using exFAT file system. I just reformatted and reinstalled ML, and only got about 35 seconds in 720p. Still only showing that the card is capable of 39 mb/s and only continuous in 960x540.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 01, 2016, 10:47:22 PM
Are you running exFAT now or not?
If so: Disable Global Draw. Load only mlv_rec.mo and enable files > 4GB in Movie tab -> RAW video (MLV)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: thebkangsta on January 02, 2016, 12:50:17 AM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on January 01, 2016, 10:47:22 PM
Are you running exFAT now or not?
If so: Disable Global Draw. Load only mlv_rec.mo and enable files > 4GB in Movie tab -> RAW video (MLV)

Yes the card is still exFAT format. I disabled Global Draw and enabled the settings in your post. Still can only record 35 seconds in 720p, writing about 38~40 mb/s.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: TechnoPilot on January 02, 2016, 02:05:17 AM
I hate to point out guys, but 39-40MB/s on the 70D's 40MB/s SD card interface is about the best we can expect...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: thebkangsta on January 02, 2016, 02:53:01 AM
Quote from: TechnoPilot on January 02, 2016, 02:05:17 AM
I hate to point out guys, but 39-40MB/s on the 70D's 40MB/s SD card interface is about the best we can expect...

Well the issue is that some people report continuous 720p RAW recording and also ~15 seconds 1824x1026 recording, which I cannot get those lengths without frame dropping.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: TechnoPilot on January 02, 2016, 02:56:35 AM
Quote from: thebkangsta on January 02, 2016, 02:53:01 AM
Well the issue is that some people report continuous 720p RAW recording and also ~15 seconds 1824x1026 recording, which I cannot get those lengths without frame dropping.
Double check what aspect ratio you are using versus them. Personally I can also get continuous at just over 720p, but using 2.40:1.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: thebkangsta on January 02, 2016, 03:18:41 AM
Quote from: TechnoPilot on January 02, 2016, 02:56:35 AM
Double check what aspect ratio you are using versus them. Personally I can also get continuous at just over 720p, but using 2.40:1.

I see, well that could be it. I just assumed everyone was filming at 16:9 ratio. Thanks for that reminder! Is there a reason why you choose 2.39:1 than other resolutions?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: TechnoPilot on January 02, 2016, 03:27:52 AM
Quote from: thebkangsta on January 02, 2016, 03:18:41 AM
I see, well that could be it. I just assumed everyone was filming at 16:9 ratio. Thanks for that reminder! Is there a reason why you choose 2.39:1 than other resolutions?
For me it is two fold, one it allows for more horizontal resolution, closer to my ideal delivery and second because I artistically love the classic Cinerama and Cinema Scope look and 2.39 being the modern equivalent.  Additionally I like that it more fully utilizes the true view angle of my lenses, allowing me to get closer to the 18mm of my Sigma lens.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: maitimaus on January 02, 2016, 01:19:08 PM
@nikfreak Please make this cable  working with the 70D. It would be awesome to use headphones on this camera :)

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/765530-REG/Sescom_DSLR_550D_HOCF_DSLR_550D_HOCF_AV_Out_Headphone.html
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: starbase64 on January 02, 2016, 05:31:21 PM
@maitimaus

the price is too high, no alternate cable on ebay? > http://goo.gl/EIwIMU
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 02, 2016, 07:42:04 PM
A trend is to shoot in 2:39 but master to 2:35, which is the near anamorphic.
The wiggle room just speeds the whole picture framing process along.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: aedipuss on January 02, 2016, 09:22:34 PM
@maitimaus  --  i have a 60d and you certainly don't need a $45 cable for headphone monitoring.  the standard canon a/v cable and a $2 adapter on the red/white rca jacks works fine http://www.amazon.com/CableWholesale-3-5mm-Stereo-Adapter-Female/dp/B000I98ZM8

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Cartesius on January 03, 2016, 11:35:19 AM
this one at least should work for the 60D, and perhaps later for 70D

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-10Pin-to-3RCA-AV-Stereo-Cable-AVC-DC400ST-for-Canon-EOS-7D-60D-60Da-70D-600D-/381494228857?hash=item58d2d3f779:g:IB0AAOSwUdlWcmYH
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: kriso on January 04, 2016, 12:28:24 AM
Quote from: kriso on December 16, 2015, 06:19:51 PM
On the headphone monitoring: I use canon factory made cable  (a/v out to cinch) + 3.5 mm adapter to plug the headphones. Im only getting loud noise in my ears and the LCD screen turns immediately black after I plug the cable into the dslr. It dosen't matter modes. Just the noise seems to change a bit every time I press any of buttons.

Canon 70D - 70D.111A 26th November: Beta-2b
@kriso --
The screen is going to go blank because you are plugging into an "Audio / Video" jack, so it switches off the built-in screen. 

The headphones are not as easy as you are trying to make it.  That jack has a mono line-level output for audio.  First problem is that your impedance is going to be way off by trying to plug directly into headphones.  Secondly, if you are not using an adapter made specifically for this purposes, you are shorting two of the contacts together that shouldn't be.  Thirdly, there is no proper amplification to drive the headphones inductor.   

You should be very careful, as stated you are potentially shorting out connections.  The 70D ML firmware is not setup to allow headphone monitoring, it is something that I've been told might just not be possible with the Digic 5 processor.  Also I will point out that the cable to allow headphone monitoring on the cameras that have this hack in ML, still use a specially modified Canon cable to allow it to work and make the proper connections.  Just my two cents of advice.

Audio headphone monitoring with this cable is not posible by the moment, I've been through this guys...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 04, 2016, 02:02:06 AM
      @Kriso

   Actually the 70Ds OnBoard Monitor Does Not Normally Go Black when The USB A/V Cable is Plugged In ~

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 04, 2016, 03:37:24 PM
So here is a video that works for t3i, they used the usb cable that came with the camera & a small adapter/amp. Very cheap.
However you have to use external monitor for video (either HDMI or USB port fed but not both), as the screen blanks with the usb cable.  Perhaps micro hdmi & your smart phone.

http://www.dslrfilmnoob.com/2011/02/25/more-on-adding-audio-monitoring-to-your-dslr/
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: kriso on January 04, 2016, 04:00:26 PM
This method works perfectly fine with the 60D or the T3i shown in this video, but it's not working with the 70D. It's the Digic5 processor that  makes the things complicated. ML for 70D does not have the "Headphones monitoring" feature. It's not working, I have tried already. Only works with my 60D...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: aedipuss on January 04, 2016, 10:56:22 PM
@shootmealready - does the screen really blank using headphone monitoring on your t3i?  the screen on my 60d stays on while shooting video and using headphone monitoring.  glad i don't use my t3i for video then.
Title: Will not boot into ML after a period of time
Post by: 2gnospam on January 06, 2016, 03:08:08 AM
I have a new 70D "A" firmware.  Have used ML for a long time on my 60D.  I have successfully installed ML on the 70D. 

Seems to work well, EXCEPT after a period of time (not sure of the details of what series of operations could be causing this), the camera will turn on but only is using the stock firmware (thus ML does not load on boot).  Pushing the trash can button has no reaction.  When the info button is pushed, it does not show the ML info screen, etc.  I can re-install via the firmware update and it works fine for a while (obviously looses settings).  Same SD card, same install.  Card has been out of the camera and back in.  Waited for the lights to stop flashing, etc on card insert. 

Ideas?  Anyone else experience this?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: nikfreak on January 06, 2016, 08:04:03 AM
Any crash / assert log files on your sdcard? ML will be only skipped during boot up when you hold SET button. That one technically ok? Otherwise I would try another sdcard.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: catmangel on January 06, 2016, 11:55:49 AM
Hello Guys,sorry my english is not very well.
I had installed the 70D.111A to my 70D.But when I try to record the MLV Video,the 70D just can write into the SDcard with 30m/s highest.I already checked my SDcard,it support 60m/s highest with written by computer.
So,what I want to know is how much the highest written speed to SDcard of 70D.If 70D support to write in by 60m/s,Should I change some settings in ML?
Thank you very much!
ps:my sd card is--toshiba exceria 64gb SDXC I.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 06, 2016, 12:06:30 PM
Cam's limit is about 40 MByte/s in write mode. Debug tab -> Benchmarks -> Card R/W Benchmark (5 min). After starting benchmark press Play button. Turn Global Draw off for testing.

And don't expect recording without glitches above 38 MByte/s!

Check card's file system. If not exFAT: Format card in cardreader with exFAT file system. Copy extracted build contents to card and run installation process (firmware update) once again.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: TechnoPilot on January 06, 2016, 08:09:10 PM
Note though that in my experience, formatting in camera after switching any 32gb or small card to ExFat will return it to Fat32 as that is the default for Canon Firmware for smaller cards...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Macy606 on January 07, 2016, 03:00:19 PM
Hey guys!

Is it normal that I do not see the menu while recording MLV files? It disappears right after I hit the record button on the camera.
If I select to record RAW only, I do see all of the useful information as usual while recording...

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: nikfreak on January 07, 2016, 03:03:21 PM
answered here:

http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16437.msg159851;topicseen#msg159851

Please don't double-post!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Thobias on January 08, 2016, 10:39:43 PM
I have two questions (probably about ML generally)...

1. It is possible to turn on magic zoom only on manual focusing, but is it also possible to automatically turn magic zoom off after few seconds of inactivity with manual focus?
2. Is it possible to set different default shutter speed, ISO and aperture for switching to Live View mode? I usually take pictures on M with higher ISO and shutter speed than in video mode and it is frustrating to change these parameters every time I switch to live view and back.

Thanks.
Title: Stability?
Post by: Simonvideo on January 09, 2016, 07:37:34 PM
Hey guys, I havent checked up on ML for the 70d in ages... Since the alpha builds. I've never used ML but I have a 70d and t5i now and I'm thinking of giving it a go.

I do event vidography and longer recording times would really help me. The quality i get out of the camera now is ok for me. Higher quality would obviously be better but stability is more important to me.

Should I be installing ML now or waiting for future builds? And sorry for the noob question but what's the best recording option for Quality and Stability?
Title: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 09, 2016, 08:09:30 PM
As long as you have a decent sd card (600x or higher) and you should be good to go with 1280x720p MLV RAW @ 24p -- totally worth the effort!

Try KomputerBay ... Their QC over the years have gotten better with customers including myself.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: TechnoPilot on January 09, 2016, 08:18:55 PM
Quote from: Thobias on January 08, 2016, 10:39:43 PM
I have two questions (probably about ML generally)...

1. It is possible to turn on magic zoom only on manual focusing, but is it also possible to automatically turn magic zoom off after few seconds of inactivity with manual focus?
2. Is it possible to set different default shutter speed, ISO and aperture for switching to Live View mode? I usually take pictures on M with higher ISO and shutter speed than in video mode and it is frustrating to change these parameters every time I switch to live view and back.

Thanks.
Hi Thobias,

On your second question, I use C mode for my video work and M for most of my photography.  C retains my video settings like shutterspeed, ISO and most importantly picture profile, while M keeps me more in a photography setting.  Additionally since I shoot with a flat, desharpened picture profile (technicolor), I also use the mode specific settings option in ML so that when I turn on my camera in C and Movie mode, it has my movie specific settings including contrast, saturation, and sharpening in Digic turned on and when I boot the camera in M and photography mode it turns these off and uses my more photography specific settings in ML.  I also then keep settings in C and photography for when I am wanting to shoot timelapse.

Discovering how to utilize these mode specific settings really improved the usability of ML for me now that I use more and more in ML.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 09, 2016, 08:20:38 PM

Quote from: TechnoPilot on January 09, 2016, 08:18:55 PM
Discovering how to utilize these mode specific settings really improved the usability of ML for me now that I use more and more in ML.

+1
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Simonvideo on January 09, 2016, 09:49:27 PM
@deafeyejedi I have some very fast card, sandisk extreme pros (komputerbay is good??) but i need 1080 @30p...

I did install ML and it's worth it just for the continuous recording but when i tried raw, it says something about missing a frame after a few seconds and stops.

If the answer is I can't do raw in 1080 30p then I'll have to stick with the stock settings for that but if there's a way..
Title: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 09, 2016, 09:52:57 PM
I use Sandisk on majority of my SD's slots but I also like to more GB for cheap and just as durable which is what I get from KB.

Don't get me wrong tho I love my Sandisk/Lexus cards but I'll feel like a fool if I were to buy these again knowing how solid KB's are especially with their price differentials.

1080p @ 30p is not practical at all on the 70D due to SD limitation factor -- let alone 5D3 can just barely do 30p @ 1080p (it's slightly under) for continuous recording.

Jm2c.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: TechnoPilot on January 09, 2016, 09:53:41 PM
Quote from: Simonvideo on January 09, 2016, 09:49:27 PM
@deafeyejedi I have some very fast card, sandisk extreme pros (komputerbay is good??) but i need 1080 @30p...

I did install ML and it's worth it just for the continuous recording but when i tried raw, it says something about missing a frame after a few seconds and stops.

If the answer is I can't do raw in 1080 30p then I'll have to stick with the stock settings for that but if there's a way..
No Simon, as mentioned in this thread from the start, the SD card interface hardware in the 70D is only capable of 40mb/s and therefore makes sustained 1080p in raw (even at 2.39 aspect) impossible to sustain much further then the internal image buffer.  It simply is not possible in any Canon camera that does not have a CF card at this point.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Simonvideo on January 10, 2016, 12:07:47 AM
Wow.. well, i guess I'm going to start looking into KB cards in future. So running ML using stock format I should be good to run for hours continuously until the battery does, right? Anyone ever have any issues?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 10, 2016, 01:56:43 AM
You will get a short gap (about 0.5s) every 29:59. Cam's shutter will be closed.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: ErikTheElectric on January 10, 2016, 08:18:58 AM
Hey guys (and gals)

I'm posting because I just purchased the 70D a week ago, with the intentions of using 99% for video. I mainly shoot videos for youtube and decided that I wanted to go with a DSLR > HD Camera. I've been used to using the Canon G7X for most of my videos and have always been used to the shooting being extremely "crisp" in the standard 1080p, 60 fps format.


Long story short, I bought the 70D and filmed my first few shots with it. Went home, uploaded the clips into Final Cut Pro X. and IMMEDIATELY noticed how "grainy" and low quality the videos were turning out when I looked at them in the FCP window. Again, long story short... but I spent 3-4 days wondering what the hell was actually going on.. when I finally figured it out 2 nights ago. The camera has been techically shooting in 1080p, 60fps BUT UPLOADING IT IN 720P to my iMac.
I can't even upload the videos from my 70D to my iPhone. I just get a message saying "Content not supported".

So yesterday I contacted the manufacturer and figured I'd just return it. However, I'm wondering.. do you guys think that Magic Lanterning it will help me? Any functions on ML that will enable me to upload in 1080p?

Thanks guys!

Edit: I also forgot to mention that I'm using a High(er) quality SD card. (San Disk Extreme from what I remember) so that's not likely the issue!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: TechnoPilot on January 10, 2016, 08:31:05 AM


Quote from: ErikTheElectric on January 10, 2016, 08:18:58 AM
Hey guys (and gals)

I'm posting because I just purchased the 70D a week ago, with the intentions of using 99% for video. I mainly shoot videos for youtube and decided that I wanted to go with a DSLR > HD Camera. I've been used to using the Canon G7X for most of my videos and have always been used to the shooting being extremely "crisp" in the standard 1080p, 60 fps format.


Long story short, I bought the 70D and filmed my first few shots with it. Went home, uploaded the clips into Final Cut Pro X. and IMMEDIATELY noticed how "grainy" and low quality the videos were turning out when I looked at them in the FCP window. Again, long story short... but I spent 3-4 days wondering what the hell was actually going on.. when I finally figured it out 2 nights ago. The camera has been techically shooting in 1080p, 60fps BUT UPLOADING IT IN 720P to my iMac.
I can't even upload the videos from my 70D to my iPhone. I just get a message saying "Content not supported".

So yesterday I contacted the manufacturer and figured I'd just return it. However, I'm wondering.. do you guys think that Magic Lanterning it will help me? Any functions on ML that will enable me to upload in 1080p?

Thanks guys!

Let's make something clear, if you think you are shooting in 1080p 60fps then you are very wrong on one of these as the camera is not capable of this resolution and frame rate.  You are either shooting in 1080p 30/24 or 720p 60.  The camera is not capable of transcoding the footage as you claim it is doing, ensure that you are connecting the camera to the computer via the USB cable or better yet, using an SD card reader and directly copying the files.  However before you do this, ensure you take control of your settings and check what resolution you are actually recording in, what video compression you are using (All-I or IPB), what film style you are using (all sharpening should be done in post for best results) and what your ISO, shutter and aperture settings are.

ML allows you to get a lot more out of the camera, but it is definitely best to ensure you can utilize the camera as it comes from Canon first, before diving into what ML has to offer.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: ErikTheElectric on January 10, 2016, 09:01:33 AM
Quote from: TechnoPilot on January 10, 2016, 08:31:05 AM

Let's make something clear, if you think you are shooting in 1080p 60fps then you are very wrong on one of these as the camera is not capable of this resolution and frame rate.  You are either shooting in 1080p 30/24 or 720p 60.  The camera is not capable of transcoding the footage as you claim it is doing, ensure that you are connecting the camera to the computer via the USB cable or better yet, using an SD card reader and directly copying the files.  However before you do this, ensure you take control of your settings and check what resolution you are actually recording in, what video compression you are using (All-I or IPB), what film style you are using (all sharpening should be done in post for best results) and what your ISO, shutter and aperture settings are.

ML allows you to get a lot more out of the camera, but it is definitely best to ensure you can utilize the camera as it comes from Canon first, before diving into what ML has to offer.

Interesting, I was under the impression that I was able to get the camera to shoot in 1080. But now that I think of it, I was actually choosing the "1280/60 IPB" Function, because I need the higher FPS. Even then, still uploading those clips into FCP put it into 720p automatically. Despite the fact that it was shot in 1280.. Formatting issue?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: TechnoPilot on January 10, 2016, 09:11:44 AM
Quote from: ErikTheElectric on January 10, 2016, 09:01:33 AM
Interesting, I was under the impression that I was able to get the camera to shoot in 1080. But now that I think of it, I was actually choosing the "1280/60 IPB" Function, because I need the higher FPS. Even then, still uploading those clips into FCP put it into 720p automatically. Despite the fact that it was shot in 1280.. Formatting issue?
You can, but there was not a APS-C camera in Canon's lineup that could shoot 1080p 60 when the 70D came out, only now can the 7D MkII do this.  You need to be aware what you selected, you selected the lowest quality for the camera that you could above standard definition, 1280 is 1280x720, which is 720p.  You need to select 1920, otherwise known as 1920x1080 or 1080p for the best resolution possible.  Additionally you should be aware, that unless you are shooting sports 60 fps is not necessary and actually reduces the image quality over the lower frame rates as you are dividing more frames (potentially more then double over 24 fps), over a set bitrate per second of video.  Also note that while there is debate which compression with the same bitrate should provide the best image in this case IPB is the lower bitrate option and will suffer from less bit depth and more artifacting between frames and All-I should be used if you are trying to retain the highest quality.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: ErikTheElectric on January 10, 2016, 05:14:53 PM
Quote from: TechnoPilot on January 10, 2016, 09:11:44 AM
You can, but there was not a APS-C camera in Canon's lineup that could shoot 1080p 60 when the 70D came out, only now can the 7D MkII do this.  You need to be aware what you selected, you selected the lowest quality for the camera that you could above standard definition, 1280 is 1280x720, which is 720p.  You need to select 1920, otherwise known as 1920x1080 or 1080p for the best resolution possible.  Additionally you should be aware, that unless you are shooting sports 60 fps is not necessary and actually reduces the image quality over the lower frame rates as you are dividing more frames (potentially more then double over 24 fps), over a set bitrate per second of video.  Also note that while there is debate which compression with the same bitrate should provide the best image in this case IPB is the lower bitrate option and will suffer from less bit depth and more artifacting between frames and All-I should be used if you are trying to retain the highest quality.

Then that was my mistake by selecting the 70D. So I guess I will return it anyways, unless there's some way that ML can allow me to shoot in 1080p (I can learn to shoot in 24 FPS if need be). Would that be possible?

Thanks again for the help.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 10, 2016, 05:20:56 PM
Sorry, but please consult your manual.
70D is able to do 1080p without ML.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 10, 2016, 05:38:48 PM
      @ETE

   You seem to be Missing The Point ~ The 70D Is QuiteCapable of Shooting 1080P @ 24FPS Or 30FPS .

It will Produce Very Nice Quality Video When Set To 1920 All-I. Learn to Use the MenuSettings & You Should

Learn To Love the 70D . I also shoot a 5DM2 & it Comes Out of The Case Only for the Very Demanding Stuff .

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Thobias on January 10, 2016, 08:55:00 PM
Quote from: TechnoPilot on January 09, 2016, 08:18:55 PM
Hi Thobias,

On your second question, I use C mode for my video work and M for most of my photography.  C retains my video settings like shutterspeed, ISO and most importantly picture profile, while M keeps me more in a photography setting.  Additionally since I shoot with a flat, desharpened picture profile (technicolor), I also use the mode specific settings option in ML so that when I turn on my camera in C and Movie mode, it has my movie specific settings including contrast, saturation, and sharpening in Digic turned on and when I boot the camera in M and photography mode it turns these off and uses my more photography specific settings in ML.  I also then keep settings in C and photography for when I am wanting to shoot timelapse.

Discovering how to utilize these mode specific settings really improved the usability of ML for me now that I use more and more in ML.

Thanks for this tip! I actually never used other modes than M, AV and Tv. So now I know what is C mode good for=)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 11, 2016, 12:18:06 AM
ETE, try video with a fast shutter, 1080p @30 fps and a 1/160s or so shutter.
You should find it very sharp.  You will need some fast glass for lower light.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: ErikTheElectric on January 11, 2016, 01:04:41 AM
Thanks again guys (and gals).


I'll be giving it a shot tonight again when I get home. For reference, here's one of my videos from my channel that references my "issues".

(At around the 3:20 mark)


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 11, 2016, 02:22:09 AM
                     @ETE

           YouTube Doesn't Like that Link ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: ErikTheElectric on January 11, 2016, 08:56:49 AM
Yeah for some odd reason, it won't let me embed my video. *shrug*

Oh well!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: TechnoPilot on January 11, 2016, 09:42:30 AM
Worked for me and it's definitely a combination of low resolution, low bitrate and high frame rate.  Also it looks like you don't use any sharpening in post and probably only in camera sharpening.

Checkout some videos on YouTube from people like Newman Films to see how to properly and fully utilize Canon DSLR video, it is definitely more work in post then that from point and shots but it can provide far better results.  Also personally I recommend checking out there Technicolor picture profile to provide you with the best dynamic range you can get out of your camera.  Just remember that the video then definitely requires work in post to bring it back to a rich vibrant image and that kind of colour work is an art in it self.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: awgerber on January 11, 2016, 02:38:58 PM
Hi folks,

I installed Beta3 on my 70D. I recorded video 1080p 25fps 50 3.5. I use the Zoom H6 as microphone with external microphone on 70D.
While recording averaging every 20s I see the message on display "external micrphone connected". Later on the movie file the audio has clicks as if the external microphone was disconnected for 15ms.

Since the audio quality is not good and I need the camera for production I removed ML. I hope in future we can use the audio menu in ML on the 70D. I would like to get it back on my camera - but only if it is stable.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: TechnoPilot on January 12, 2016, 06:48:20 AM
Quote from: awgerber on January 11, 2016, 02:38:58 PM
Hi folks,

I installed Beta3 on my 70D. I recorded video 1080p 25fps 50 3.5. I use the Zoom H6 as microphone with external microphone on 70D.
While recording averaging every 20s I see the message on display "external micrphone connected". Later on the movie file the audio has clicks as if the external microphone was disconnected for 15ms.

Since the audio quality is not good and I need the camera for production I removed ML. I hope in future we can use the audio menu in ML on the 70D. I would like to get it back on my camera - but only if it is stable.
Honestly with having used this since the first Alpha, I have had ZERO audio issues (Shure shotgun, Rode Filmmaker, and Sennheiser G3 all into camera), you simply received a warning because the mic reconnected.  This sounds 100% like your cable or the jack on you 70D, I suggest checking these first before considering it to be ML.  Magic Lantern in this case just seemed to warn you about something the default Canon firmware would not have.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 12, 2016, 06:48:41 PM
      @Awgerber

   Similar to TechnoP' ~ I Most Always have a Rode Stereo VideoMic OnBoard my 70D whenever Good Audio Capture

is Desired & have Never had any Audio Disruption occur. The Symptoms You describe suggest a Connection Problem.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: thebkangsta on January 13, 2016, 12:48:52 AM
Hi guys,

I've been doing a bit of test filming around my campus and the quality is pretty bad. I'm filming in the highest resolution I can on 2.39:1 ratio.
https://gyazo.com/d364debda6932f1de6e4f58535d29104
I get terrible color fringing and the overall quality looks pretty bad.

I used Magic Lantern RAW Video Converter to create the CDNG files and imported them in Resolve 12.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: darkskies on January 13, 2016, 01:57:05 AM
Hi will FPS override be back soon for the 70D ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: aedipuss on January 13, 2016, 04:33:30 AM
@thebkangsta  -  the 70d can shoot all i-frame .mp4 30p at 88mbps.  it's pretty darn good. with the file storage bus limit on a 70d raw video is not a good option with this cam. if you want better raw/mlv buy a 5d3.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 13, 2016, 05:03:39 PM
Hey Gangsta

My first question is about the glass, it looks like a kit lens is causing the fringing. The fringing is not coming from the s/w neither is the less than sharp focus in the picture.  I suspect its not the camera, as more often its AF technique skills, which is off topic for this thread. I would post your screen grab, and video links over at dpreview.com, that's a good forum to discuss those problems.

I think the 70D is suitable to shoot 1600/24 fps @ 2;39.1 raw  for 1 minute clips, or best use is 1280/24fps @ 2:39.1 continuous.  Shooting raw is very limited in useful ISO, 400 is about reliable max. Low light shadow banding or for longer clip hot pixels will be issues at higher ISO.  It gets hot shooting raw, especially for extended clip lengths.   It wasn't designed for the cooling that raw shooting needs. Most pro digital film cameras that shoot raw don't exceed ISO 800.  All-I 1080p is best for higher ISO shooting, and time lapse is best for high resolution raw.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: dreamowl on January 15, 2016, 08:43:23 AM
Hey guys I'm kinda new to this, and I just recently downloaded this firmware, and it scared the crap out of me. Luckily everything was fine and it downloaded. My question is do you have to repeatedly download the firmware on each SD card and re-install the firmware? Because I just learned that when I was switching with the SD cards.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 15, 2016, 09:52:19 AM
Top of page -> User Guide -> Install Guide
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 15, 2016, 07:29:14 PM
      ~ Additional Info ~

Step 1. Preparing your camera

Use a fully charged Canon battery (original, not third party);  <~~ Good Idea but Not Critical ~

Remove any accessories from your camera (such as battery grip or external flash).

Double-check your Canon firmware version.

Rotate your mode dial to Manual (M) position.  <~~ Maybe Good Idea but Not Critical ~

Recommended: Restore your camera to default settings.  <~~ Maybe Good Idea but Not Critical ~


Step 2. Installation

Format the card in the camera (low-level format).  <~~ Good Idea but Not Critical ~~ I Always Format SD to XFat Via My Mac ~

Unzip all of the files from Magic Lantern zip archive to the root of your card.  <~~ Via Computer ~

~ Move Card from Computer to Your Camera & Start It ~

Launch the Firmware Update process.  <~~ Via Canon Menu ~

If the card LED is blinking for more than a few seconds, upgrade your Canon firmware from the links above (even if you already have the correct firmware version number!) and try again.

Once you see the green confirmation screen, restart your camera. Done.  <~~ Don't Recall if this "green confirm screen" Occurs on 70D ~

If anything goes wrong, check the Troubleshooting section.

                                                                                                      ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: shakenda on January 15, 2016, 07:55:58 PM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on December 29, 2015, 05:59:30 PM
Shakenda

   Would be helpful to have a More Accurate Description of what you are asking about & to know which Build of ML you are running.

I'm using build: Nightly.2015Nov26.70D111A on one camera and the other camera is using Nightly.2015.Nov26.70D111B.

When the camera isn't recording, the info in the upper-right corner of the screen (when on the ML screen) shows the amount of space left on the card.  As it begins recording it changes to a number (somewhere in the hundreds and sometimes with a : to the right side of it).  After about twenty minutes or so, a white box with red number appears over the upper-right corner and keeps counting up (ended up over 30,000 before I stopped recording).  Just wondering what those number mean.  Also, I noticed the framerate would change from 23.971 to 23.984.  Not sure what causes that and if it's anything to worry about.  Here are some photos to show you what I'm getting. 

(http://3to1video.com/canon/BU7A9522.jpg)
(http://3to1video.com/canon/BU7A9523.jpg)
(http://3to1video.com/canon/BU7A9526.jpg)
(http://3to1video.com/canon/BU7A9528.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 15, 2016, 10:32:15 PM
      @ Shakenda

   Is there a Particular Necessity for You to be using the 26Nov Build instead of the Latest 22Dec ?

In the M'L' Menu > "Movie" tab > You should find "Rec indicator" > Whatever Choice You make there Determines what Info is Shown

in the UpperRight Corner of the M'L' Overlay on the Display During Video Recording.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: shakenda on January 16, 2016, 01:24:30 AM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on January 15, 2016, 10:32:15 PM
      @ Shakenda

   Is there a Particular Necessity for You to be using the 26Nov Build instead of the Latest 22Dec ?

No, I just haven't installed the update yet.

Thanks for the info.  I do have another question.  Is there a way to get the option to turn the SERVO AF off by tapping the screen while using the ML screen?  When I'm shooting, I often like to use the AF box to grab focus on something, then quickly tap the SERVO AF button on the screen to temporarily turn AF off.  That's the only extra thing I wish I could do from the ML screen, because I definitely love the info ML gives you.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 16, 2016, 02:12:15 AM
      @ Shakenda

   ServoAF Off Via ScreenTap is Unfortunately Not Avail' but there is a Slightly Clunky WorkAround > Press the FlashUp Button.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 16, 2016, 02:27:57 AM
      @ Shakenda

   The Better Option ~ IMHO ~ Is to use a Tablet + DSLR Controller connected to 70D Via USB ~ I use a Nexus7

& it Works Great ~ You can have any Overlay You want on the Cam & PrettyMuch Full Control of Cam Functions via

the Tablet ~

           This is OffTopic for This Thread so EM Me if You wish more info. ~ [email protected] ~

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 16, 2016, 03:39:03 PM
Shake & O-Rat

If your taking still shots aiservo off/on is not such an issue, so I assume video mode is your need. And for that Canon has a neat
button, just use the Flash button for movie-servo off/on.   I prefer ML screen to DSLR controller, as I use liveview with a 3X loupe, it retains fast touchscreen af, which I dont think DSLR controller is as fast (as I recall its been a while).  Focus peaks, zebras, and the ml screen are my preferred mode.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Thobias on January 16, 2016, 06:04:37 PM
I cannot take full-resolution silent pictures. It say's "Full-resolution pictures only works with M (manual) photo mode", which I have. Even switch to manual/AF not works.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: nikfreak on January 16, 2016, 06:16:34 PM
Quote from: Thobias on January 16, 2016, 06:04:37 PM
"Full-resolution pictures only works with M (manual) photo mode", which I have. Even switch to manual/AF not works.
Lil' bit misleading but set your ISO to a manual value, too:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12523.msg143871#msg143871
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Thobias on January 16, 2016, 06:40:56 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on January 16, 2016, 06:16:34 PM
Lil' bit misleading but set your ISO to a manual value, too:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12523.msg143871#msg143871

It is, I never use auto ISO.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 16, 2016, 06:49:12 PM
Delete ML directory, delete autoexec.bin and copy extracted build contents to card and retry. Load Silent.mo only. No other module.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Tomax on January 17, 2016, 07:46:17 AM
Hello guys, especially nikfreak

I am using Linux Mint and EOS 70D, trying to get cr2hdr to run on my system, but I have no luck.

I copied cr2hdr.c to my system, tried to compile it but I receive errors. If I try to use it as C-Program by calling it from command line, I get the error "No camera model found with id 0x325"

Can anybody help me to use dual_ISO also on my system?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Thobias on January 17, 2016, 03:49:01 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on January 16, 2016, 06:49:12 PM
Delete ML directory, delete autoexec.bin and copy extracted build contents to card and retry. Load Silent.mo only. No other module.
Nothing happens. Still same message about M mode (which I have).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 17, 2016, 04:02:13 PM
Reset cam to factory defaults (including C.Fn settings).
Turn pic quality to RAW. Make sure to have
Autolight Optimizer OFF
both Noise Reduction features disabled.
Retry and report.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 17, 2016, 04:49:33 PM
                    @ShootMeAlready

           It Appears as though You Missed My Reply#2224 ~

                                                ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: shakenda on January 18, 2016, 06:38:01 PM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on January 16, 2016, 02:12:15 AM
      @ Shakenda

   ServoAF Off Via ScreenTap is Unfortunately Not Avail' but there is a Slightly Clunky WorkAround > Press the FlashUp Button.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB

That is very helpful, thank you!

Quote from: OlRivrRat on January 16, 2016, 02:27:57 AM
      @ Shakenda

   The Better Option ~ IMHO ~ Is to use a Tablet + DSLR Controller connected to 70D Via USB ~ I use a Nexus7

& it Works Great ~ You can have any Overlay You want on the Cam & PrettyMuch Full Control of Cam Functions via

the Tablet ~

           This is OffTopic for This Thread so EM Me if You wish more info. ~ [email protected] ~

                                 ORR ~ DeanB

I'm shooting run-and-gun video most of the time, so this option would be very clunky for me.

Quote from: ShootMeAlready on January 16, 2016, 03:39:03 PM
Shake & O-Rat

If your taking still shots aiservo off/on is not such an issue, so I assume video mode is your need. And for that Canon has a neat
button, just use the Flash button for movie-servo off/on.   I prefer ML screen to DSLR controller, as I use liveview with a 3X loupe, it retains fast touchscreen af, which I dont think DSLR controller is as fast (as I recall its been a while).  Focus peaks, zebras, and the ml screen are my preferred mode.

That sounds like what I'll need to go with as well.  Thanks for the info guys!  Any word on when the 70D firmware will make the nightly build list?
Title: reinstalling new beta
Post by: cosmopotter on January 22, 2016, 03:38:14 AM
Hey guys, sorry for the dumb question but I'm just a little anxious. I have an earlier beta installed (August beta 1 I think) and want to switch to the newest version.

Do I need to do anything special when changing or just format the card and load it with the new version and perform a firmware update? I don't need to perform a factory reset to revert to the old firmware do I?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 22, 2016, 05:20:01 AM
0. (Optional): Backup ML directory, autoexec.bin and *.FIR
1. (Recommended): Delete ML directory, autoexec.bin and *.FIR
2. (Mandatory): Copy extracted build contents to card

Insert card into cam and startup. Done. No need to reinstall anything else.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: joshooa on January 22, 2016, 05:52:20 PM
I'm confused as to if the dua ISO feature is working with the newest build? I see in the notes where they say this "Dualiso only works in photo mode" so how do I enable it? Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 22, 2016, 05:59:07 PM
Modules tab -> dual_iso.mo
Restart
Expo tab -> Dual ISO
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: tristanh on January 24, 2016, 12:13:41 AM
I installed ML yesterday and it worked fine except the menu would keep returning to Live View after a few seconds if left untouched.

Today I can still see the menus, but the overlays aren't working. I have cycled through past the canon overlays, but the ML one is definitely not there anymore.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 24, 2016, 12:15:37 AM
ML menu is there after pressing trashcan button? Prefs tab -> Config files -> Restore ML defaults
Restart.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: can-on on January 24, 2016, 05:24:47 PM
Hi
What is the optimal 4K set my videos? what speed memory card is recommended?
Resolutions are presently 1,154 frames also have stoped.
thx.
(110A)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 24, 2016, 05:29:11 PM
Asking about 4k@24 on 70D is considered trolling at level 9000. Bandwidth required is about 9 times the number 70D can handle.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 24, 2016, 08:24:57 PM
No problem to shoot 4k video. Its called time-lapse you can shoot raw even greater than 4k.
However fps is very low.  Check out the ML manual

Timelapse: intervalometer recording at very low FPS (down to 0.2 FPS), and "silent pictures" without shutter actuation.

Tutorial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNp3QjVnzp0

Example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG61Np3agXI
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: aedipuss on January 25, 2016, 04:05:42 AM
4k raw on a 70d?  i'd love to even be able to shoot real actual 1080p30 raw.  but it's not going to happen.  sorry for the piling on but it was too easy a target :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: tristanh on January 25, 2016, 04:40:51 AM
Installed twice. Works for a day and then next day there are no overlays. tried restore ML defaults, no change.

EDIT: Cycled through overlays with info button, and there's nothing there.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 25, 2016, 06:05:10 AM
Maybe you accidentally pressed 'info' so keep pressing until you see ML overlays.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Boygetslost on January 25, 2016, 04:47:17 PM
Cant get MLV audio to work on the 70d

Hi
I have been using ML raw for a while on 5d 2.
Just put it my 70d, it all works fine except the mlv audio.
I have enabled the Mlv and the MLv audio modules, though when I import it in with MLV viewer there is no audio at all.
Does anyone know what I am doing wrong?

The h264 video has audio.
I used the 2015dec22,70d111a

Thanks
Chris :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: camslide on January 25, 2016, 05:05:05 PM
I quickly recorded a video of a sunset today (no raw) and noticed the "record-time-left" indicator in the top right corner got confused and showed weird numbers.
Screenshot: http://pasteboard.co/13NTsXJ6.jpg
I was on beta 2b. Upgraded to beta-3 but encountered the same on beta-3.
Not a severe bug, but maybe there is a quick way to fix it.

Thanks for all the effort you put in this project!

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: nikfreak on January 25, 2016, 06:35:47 PM
@camslide: I will look into it at a later time. Seen this bug report now 2nd time.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: camslide on January 25, 2016, 07:24:46 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on January 25, 2016, 06:35:47 PM
@camslide: I will look into it at a later time. Seen this bug report now 2nd time.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: prsla on January 27, 2016, 02:41:52 PM
Hello, I install ml on my 70d and after some days i was freezing and show me error 70. I change the card and format, then i make some 100 photos, camera freeze and won't turn on. Light near card don't work, camera won't turn on.
What to do?
Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: aedipuss on January 27, 2016, 03:57:40 PM
prsla - have you tried a different battery? 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: prsla on January 27, 2016, 05:00:18 PM
Yes, i have 3 batteries , also on Canon 6d all works without problem
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: camslide on January 27, 2016, 09:01:14 PM
FYI: Todays Lightroom update solved the DNG issue.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: aedipuss on January 27, 2016, 10:26:16 PM
psrla - try it with a fresh battery and no card/door closed.  does it boot?  then battery and a known good card formatted outside the camera.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: prsla on January 28, 2016, 03:18:46 AM
No, its not boot. light near sd card don't flashes
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: aedipuss on January 28, 2016, 03:42:31 AM
prsla - take the card out of the camera and close the slot door.  open the lcd screen so you can see it.  turn on the camera and it should say no card and boot.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: prsla on January 28, 2016, 06:52:21 AM
Nothing happen, i try that :/
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: aedipuss on January 28, 2016, 08:47:23 PM
contact canon.  it might be the problem some others have reported with 70d models.  there is a battery connector inside that can break.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: jprovidenza on January 29, 2016, 03:37:54 AM
I'm new to the forum and ML, so excuse me if this is not specific enough.  I've downloaded the latest version
to experiment with ETTR and I notice that in general,...

the 'set' button is extremely sensitive, almost glitchy.  It's as if it needs debounced.

This is not specific to ETTR, it applies to all menu items I've been trying.

The normal Canon menu items do not show this.

Thanks for the amazing software!

John P

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: passegua on January 29, 2016, 12:33:55 PM
I need monitoring audio when recording video, I don't find any tutorial about this feature.

Is it possible monitoring audio while recording with EOD 70D? How?

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 29, 2016, 12:42:35 PM
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg159687;topicseen#msg159687
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: passegua on January 29, 2016, 02:37:52 PM
Thanks, so I understand there is no way to monitor audio while recording on 70D?

Btw I installed ML on my 1.1.1A and all seems work properly but the ML screen stays on for only about 10 seconds then it shut off and the canon menu display comes up.

Then I have to push the trash can button again in order to view ML display again.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 29, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.0#post_notworking
Title: canon 70d won't turn on.
Post by: Jjayradd on January 30, 2016, 12:42:10 PM
After clicking the "don't click me" button my 70d is bricked. I use taken the battery out but it still won't turn on.

Please help someone!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 30, 2016, 12:55:32 PM
Load battery, remove card, insert battery. Startup cam. Results?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Jjayradd on January 30, 2016, 01:06:59 PM
It turns on without the sd card
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 30, 2016, 01:11:57 PM
Delete autoexec.bin, ML directory and *.FIR from card and copy extracted latest build contents over. Then run firmware upgrade and your issue is fixed.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: prsla on January 31, 2016, 03:08:58 AM
I try now that, camera doesn't start. Led near SD not flashes, display not working
Other solutions?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 31, 2016, 07:23:18 AM
EDIT: Post was directed to Jjayradd and advice was not intended to be used by you
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 31, 2016, 04:59:14 PM
Audio should monitor using the stereo bars (red/green peaks) when recording for unexpected spikes
or drop outs.
If you do a proper sound check & balance your mics that's
all that is needed to handle max. volume and min. noise.
You could add compressor/limiters in the live recording if spiking was really an unknowable factor.

As the live recording happens at the same time as the recording,
one person can not differentiate just by listening. There is very little to be gained (pun intended)
by having live audio headphone monitoring during recording.
However as I recall on playback you can hear the sound and I think review the bars.
Only on playback can you sound check.


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 31, 2016, 05:31:08 PM
                 @Walter Schulz

        Maybe You Should take the trouble to Identify to Whom You are Replying.

                                                                              ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: swardet on February 04, 2016, 02:27:50 PM
@nikfreak
I installed yesterday for first time and a llllooonnngggg time technology aficionado.

I installed the 111A, as the B version wasn't compatible.

Two issues which caused me to uninstall.
First. While recording RAW video, the display AND footage surged from a normal exposure to a VERY overexposed. This seemed quite odd.
Second. The AF+Tracking that I find extraordinarily useful did not work well while using ML. The camera was like a cheap Rebel and all it did was hunt for the subject.

If you have a fix for these two problems, please let me know and I'd be happy to try again.

btw, i have the two ROM0/1.BIN files from when installing. Looked for how to attach to this message and couldn't find attachment option. Let me know if these would be valuable and I'll get ''em to you somehow.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: dmilligan on February 04, 2016, 03:20:17 PM
DO NOT PUBLICLY POST ROM DUMPS!

That is Canon intellectual property. Keep them to yourself.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: wuttan on February 04, 2016, 10:07:10 PM
I just installed ML 111A. When I´m in the menu in Live view it returns to Live view after about 5 seconds?! When not in Live view it´s no problem and it stays in the menu untill I go out from the menu. Is this a bug?

Thank you for awsome work you guy´s done for the Canon 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 04, 2016, 10:08:54 PM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.0#post_notworking
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: wuttan on February 04, 2016, 10:12:34 PM
Walter, thanks. Sorry about that. I should have read that! thanks for your fast answer.


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: passegua on February 05, 2016, 09:51:05 AM
Why D70 ML is one year old?
Is there any newer build?
Many thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: camslide on February 05, 2016, 11:35:36 AM
Quote from: passegua on February 05, 2016, 09:51:05 AM
Why D70 ML is one year old?
Is there any newer build?
Many thanks.
Latest build is 22nd dec 2015. Check the first post!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: eien on February 05, 2016, 03:44:41 PM
Hi guys.

I install the latest version of ML and the motion detection doesn't work. When I enabled it my camera start Liveview but there is no red square on the screen.

Any idea about this issue?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 05, 2016, 03:53:18 PM
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.0#post_notworking
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: eien on February 05, 2016, 04:17:17 PM
So need trap focus to work?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: eien on February 05, 2016, 04:36:34 PM
I don't understand. Some people said that s ok
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 05, 2016, 05:16:02 PM
Sorry, but I'm unable to compute your input.

Please rephrase. You may add your issue in your native language.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: eien on February 05, 2016, 05:47:57 PM
French :
Dans la partie "Ne fonctionne pas" on ne parle que du problème d'overlay qui disparaît. Néanmoins dans la partie "Ce qui fonctionne" il y a marqué que la détection de mouvement devrait marcher. Certaines personnes ont l'air de dire que cela fonctionne pour eux.

English :
On the "non working" part you talk about the overlay problem of ML who disappears. But in the "working part" you talk about that motion detection should work. For certain users it appears that it could work
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: nikfreak on February 05, 2016, 07:24:29 PM
The "working part" doesn't contain such thing. You better read it again. If you were refering to trap focus then there's a hint in "not working part" that it only works in photo mode (not LV/MV)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: eien on February 05, 2016, 07:44:25 PM
It's seems that some users are able to use motion detection only on exposure mode
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: nikfreak on February 05, 2016, 07:49:33 PM
ok point me a link to those users forum post so I can check what we are talking about.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: eien on February 05, 2016, 07:51:52 PM
19th Jan.: Alpha1
Intervalometer, Trap Focus, Motion Detect should work now. Rebased on fullres-silent-pics branch (see source)

I try to find where users use it but I'm not sure it's on this forum. My bad sorry.

But normally into Alpha1 it should work. Anyone try it? Otherwise I apologize to be inconvenient.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: nikfreak on February 05, 2016, 07:55:00 PM
You are referring to a 1-year old build from January 2015 . Did you even try the latest build from 22th Dec.?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: eien on February 05, 2016, 07:55:53 PM
Yes and it didn't work on both mode.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: nikfreak on February 05, 2016, 08:00:11 PM
So first do what the 1st post instructs on top of its page: update your signature with your cam model.

Now I tried and rechecked on my cam. I have no problems with motion detect on my camera. Be it A / M mode with exp. / frame diff. / steady hands option...
Unless you prove me wrong I need to count this as a false report or user error. You might want to reset ML settings and retry though
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 05, 2016, 08:08:31 PM
I think he used "exposure mode" and meant "liveview".
@eien: Please use english and french in your post. Some of your translated terms doesn't make much sense, I'm afraid.
EDIT: And I suppose he has troubles with the concept of removing/disabling features during development.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: eien on February 05, 2016, 08:16:03 PM
70D111A. I'm in M mode. When I enabled it a green dot show up after press the trigger to go into Liveview and nothing. Firmware version 1.1.1 (for 70D's canon firmware)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: eien on February 05, 2016, 08:19:56 PM
https://vimeo.com/154350012 (https://vimeo.com/154350012)
A short video
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: eien on February 05, 2016, 08:58:44 PM
I try with Iceman just for test. Nothing too.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: nikfreak on February 05, 2016, 10:01:39 PM
Sorry can't reproduce it on my cam. Can you reset canon settings and retry? There has to be a frame (white box) in the center of your lcd and there will be text printed on upper left screen of lcd. I cannot find both in your posted video. Also please use the latest build. Afterwards report back if it worked.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: eien on February 05, 2016, 10:24:03 PM
It's work! Thank you so much. After resetting all is ok. It's weird because I try to find what parameter broke ML and I put all my all parameters and it's still work. So now I know that after installing a reset is needed. Thank again
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: eien on February 05, 2016, 10:25:31 PM
Now we just need the possibility to select the number of photos taken :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: kochfoto on February 06, 2016, 02:48:11 AM
Is there a wish list?  I would like to turn off the auto-orientation of the LDC.  Is that possible?
Thanks,
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: eien on February 06, 2016, 10:20:58 AM
For the moment you can just choose orientation in Display>Advanced Settings>Orientation.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: kochfoto on February 06, 2016, 03:23:25 PM
Hi, I'm new here and wanted to know if anyone has worked on the auto-orientation of the LCD.  Not sure if it would be possible but I would like to keep the LCD from flipping the image and display when front facing or rotated.
Thanks,
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: kochfoto on February 06, 2016, 03:26:19 PM
Thanks eien, just saw your post.  I'm assuming this is in ML menu, is that right?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: eien on February 06, 2016, 03:29:17 PM
Of course yes :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: wercide on February 06, 2016, 09:14:11 PM
Hi guys i'm having an issue with the REC-PicStyle function.
When i start recording, 95% of the time it doesn't switch picture style. (From neutral to Cinestyle)

If i go back to the menu, disable and then enable again the feature, it works.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: spike on February 07, 2016, 05:47:32 AM
DOT Tune

Tried to MFA my lenses using dot tune addin, however, it just cycles through to +-100 and didnt find any setting out of focus. I ended up doing it manually.

Any ideas on getting it to work as didnt see this listed as not working.

thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: swardet on February 07, 2016, 04:40:36 PM
I installed yesterday the Dec22 111A. Two issues - HELP!!!

First. While recording RAW video, the display AND footage surged from a normal exposure to a VERY overexposed. This seemed quite odd.

Second. The AF+Tracking that I find extraordinarily useful did not work well while using ML. The camera was like a cheap Rebel and all it did was hunt for the subject.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: nikfreak on February 07, 2016, 06:50:35 PM
noticed your first post already @swardet:
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg161710#msg161710

@spike: dottune needs some tries but once you are used to it then it will work most of the time. better read through the dottune thread to get more knowledge. I can recommend optimal ambient lighting for your first tries. It will work - I can confirm it myself.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: spike on February 08, 2016, 11:01:16 AM
@nikfreak Thanks for the info, found the reason for what it was doing. will try it out soon!

cheers
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on February 08, 2016, 05:13:30 PM
@swardet
"First. the display AND footage surged from a normal exposure to a VERY overexposed. This seemed quite odd."
- Probably you have ISO set to auto in ML.  Dont forget ML can override your Canon settings (trashcan - > Display ->General ->ISO then hit Q to change from auto).  Unfortunately the upper ISO limit in the Canon s/w does not work with ML, so A6400 can pop up.  What's your EC set to?  I generally never exceed 0 with H264, and often go a bit -ve.  I would also suggest zebras be used with some value like 99% to check for warnings.

" Second. The AF+Tracking that I find extraordinarily useful did not work well while using ML. The camera was like a cheap Rebel and all it did was hunt for the subject."
- You'll have to give more specifics for help.  Liveview or Viewfinder? What exposure mode (Av,TV,P,M)? what AF mode (Facial, Zone, Multi-Zone)? Movie servo must settings (on, priority 1/2)? Too often folks start blaming the camera when they havent got on top of the settings.   There is a low light limit, but I can tell you right now more than 50% of the time someone is using the Canon 50mm f1.8 II or older which should truly be used manual focus only in low light.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: dlisboa on February 14, 2016, 08:01:51 PM
Hi!
I've never used ML before and i'm very happy to know 70D support is being developed.
I wound like to use ML to automate the process of focus stacking, but as i understand the focus stacking feature is disabled on the current 70D beta.
I want to help developing ML for the 70D by testing and properly reporting bugs on this feature and other features as well! is that somehow possible?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Fernando Sandoval Mendes on February 15, 2016, 05:47:50 PM
Hey Guys...

I installed ML on my 70D but the program stays on for a while and then it goes back to Canon's standard operating system. Is there a fix for this problem? I installed it yesterday (15.02.16).

(Using a Sandisk Extreme 60mbps 32gb)

Any light on that occurrence?

Thanks.

Regards.

Fernando.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 15, 2016, 05:52:52 PM
Read first page, first post.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: imkmf on February 16, 2016, 09:16:36 PM
Is there anyone successfully using Dual ISO with a 70D and then processing the photos on Mac? I've tried running cr2hdr with two .cr2s and get the following back:

> No camera model found with id 0x325

So it seems like the application fundamentally doesn't support the 70D. Any advice? Using cr2hdrapp v2.0, but had similar problems with the Lightroom plugin.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 17, 2016, 05:51:51 PM
@imkmf - please try using MLP (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13512.0MLP)* on your Mac to spit out Dual ISO files for you with ease. It also uses the latest 20-bit cr2hdr which is what you want.

*Thanks @OlRivrRat (even tho it took me less than 2 seconds to find it within Google search of 'MLP Magic Lantern')
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: OlRivrRat on February 17, 2016, 07:27:57 PM
      @DEJ & AnyOne else that might suggest a Tool or Process or Discussion or Such

   It Might Be Nice, When making a Suggestion, to Post a Link to Said Tool or Process or Discussion or Such.

It just took Me the better part of an hour of Searching M'L's Website for MLP to finally stumble onto this Link ~

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13512.msg130562#msg130562

   I found Lots of discussions about how Great it is & how to use it but almost no mention of Where to find it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Frank7D on February 17, 2016, 10:34:00 PM
That's not a bad idea, but to be fair MLP is the second sticky in the Raw Video Postprocessing sub-forum.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: OlRivrRat on February 18, 2016, 07:15:40 PM
      @Frank7D

   Knowing that would have saved a Bunch of time, for sure. I never got into that SubMenu as when I got into

the "Post-processing Workflow" menu & Searched for MLP only 4 discussions about MLPs Greatness show up so I

turned around & looked elsewhere.

   Next ? ~ I downloaded MLP.zip, got into the Howto, completed Steps 1 & 2, then got stalled by Step3 as there

is no "MLP" to Doubleclick. There is a "MLP.workflow" ~ Is that what is Meant to be Doubleclicked ?

Follow these steps

1 - Download the  binaries and put them in Place_binaries_here folder
2 - Doubleclick the move_binaries.command to have them placed into the MLP workflow
3 - Doubleclick MLP to install the workflow. Done.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Danne on February 18, 2016, 08:22:37 PM
Feel free to ask away in the MLP thread. I,d be glad to help you out. But yes. MLP workflow is the one to double click. I don,t see extensions over here but I will update my description soon to lessen misunderstandings.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Frarike on February 19, 2016, 01:49:49 AM
First thanks a lot for work you've put in, focus peaking has been so useful. Sorry to be that guy but I was wondering about the other audio features, whats happening with them?

Thanks and sorry.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 19, 2016, 05:26:17 AM
Quote from: Frarike on February 19, 2016, 01:49:49 AM
Sorry to be that guy but I was wondering about the other audio features, whats happening with them?

Not restricted to 70D but same issue with all DiGiC 5 cameras: Not that much options until devs will dive in and solve the riddle. No schedule for that.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Marc_Petzold on February 21, 2016, 02:12:51 PM
Hi folk
Is still here. When comes the rest of the Applikations. For full version to the user cam's.

Cu
Marc
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 21, 2016, 02:24:41 PM
Top of page -> User Guide -> FAQ -> Troll Questions section
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: janjan on February 25, 2016, 04:20:52 PM
Hi,
After realizing there will not be any ML for 7D MK II in the near future I am turning to 70D.
Could anyone confirm the following feature, for photography, work in the 70D ML:

Intervalometer
Focus stacking
HDR bracketing
Dual ISO
Auto exposure
ETTR
BULB timer



Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: leven15 on February 25, 2016, 11:49:13 PM
Hello !

I come to you to see if you would not have any solution ...

After using Magic Lantern video a a few minutes my screen started to be purple ...

So I have :
- Restarted the Reflex
- Changed the battery
- Changed memory card (with and without ML)

but nothing ...

The screen works perfectly ( I can see the old photos) but when I take a new one : BLACK / LiveScreen is pink like the picture attached http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/7796391279012610208582411415961959463678o.jpg (http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/7796391279012610208582411415961959463678o.jpg)

Opinions ? Solutions ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 26, 2016, 12:24:58 AM
That looks like Dual-ISO ... be sure to have that turned OFF as you may have accidentally enabled ON -- it isn't supported in the 70D atm.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: aedipuss on February 26, 2016, 12:31:01 AM
isn't dual-iso every other horizontal line?  i've never seen any vertical distortion like that.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: leven15 on February 26, 2016, 12:35:03 AM
No i dont have any Dual ISO option activate.

Btw i have completly unistal ML but my screen is still Pink like that... Sensor Failure ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: aedipuss on February 26, 2016, 02:03:54 AM
looks dead to me
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 26, 2016, 06:16:57 AM
https://vimeo.com/147417207

https://vimeo.com/147417536
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: leven15 on February 26, 2016, 08:41:58 AM
Hum... Sad news... I will return to the shop to see if they can do anything.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 26, 2016, 08:54:33 AM
Before you do that why cant you just restore ML back to defaults and try again?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: leven15 on February 26, 2016, 10:11:56 AM
I have Restore ML / Unistal ML / but nothing is working...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: nikfreak on February 26, 2016, 12:29:11 PM
That definitely looks like you are using one of the "test-builds" having FPS-Override turned on. Only seen that kind of mangled LCD colors with fps override.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: janjan on February 28, 2016, 07:49:35 AM
Hi,
After realizing there will not be any ML for 7D MK II in the near future I am turning to 70D.
Could anyone confirm the following feature, for photography, not video, work in the 70D ML:

Intervalometer
Focus stacking
HDR bracketing
Dual ISO
Auto exposure
ETTR
BULB timer


Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: OlRivrRat on February 28, 2016, 05:30:36 PM
   @Janjan

Intervalometer         Yes
Focus stacking         No
HDR bracketing         Yes ~ Via Advanced Bracketing
Dual ISO            Yes ~ Stills Only
Auto exposure         Appears to be Yes ~ Haven't used it
ETTR               Yes
BULB timer         Yes

   There is a "What's Not Working" section in the 1st Post that You Should Read.

                                                                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: janjan on February 28, 2016, 05:47:55 PM
thank you.
do you think focus stacking will be implemented one day?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: khwaja on March 01, 2016, 07:01:02 PM
Is it possible to get EC with M mode using ML for 70D.

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: DennisL on March 02, 2016, 10:58:04 PM
Hi, i´m a ML-Newbie. I installed the latest version of ML on my 70d. After i couldn't´find the sound-menu I activated the mlv_snd-module.
What I got was this error:

"Scanning modules ...
Load modules
i load: MLV_SND.MO
Linking ...
tcc error: undefined symbol 'mlv_rec_get_free.slot'
tcc error: undefined symbol 'mlv_rec_queue_block'
(...)
failed to link module

Is there a solution? cheers Dennis
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: cosmopotter on March 03, 2016, 12:18:08 AM
Anybody in Canada want to buy my 70D with 18-135 IS STM lens? I'm not utilizing to the ML software (although it's very impressive) and I'm going to upgrade to the 80D or 7D MkII.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: EdgarsT on March 04, 2016, 02:34:45 AM
Hi, I have a 70D and i really love the video features on this camera, and with ML it is even more perfect, i just have 1 question. The cameras only "-" in video is that you cant change mic levels while recording and you cant monitor them... When i looked at ML i saw that this is possible with ML, but the 70D doesn't support it yet, so i was wondering if this is a something that is being developed now or are there other more important stuff to do?
Thanks nikfreak and everyone who has contributed to making 70D ML compatible, hope to see more progress! Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: aedipuss on March 04, 2016, 02:34:00 PM
@edgarst -  common question, the answer is that none of the newer digic5 cameras have been able to have the audio features enabled.  maybe someday but don't count on it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: swardet on March 06, 2016, 06:24:38 PM
i am getting the message "movie recording stopped automagically"

what is the write limitation of the 70D, so i can determine the highest or maximum resolution for shooting?

I'd like to get 1920x1080, but if not that, i'd like to push to the limit that the camera can write.

if i'm not asking this question in the right (sub)forum, could you please tell me where i should post this?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: camslide on March 06, 2016, 08:09:51 PM
@swardet:
70D max write speed is 40MB/s Full-HD is not possible. ShootMeAlready posted some good information on max resolution for continous shooting. You got to search this thread.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: axelcine on March 06, 2016, 11:55:05 PM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg159788#msg159788
Horizontal pixel * vertical pixel * bit depth * frame rate / 8 = Byte/s
Example: 1280 * 720 * 14 * 24 / 8 = 38707200 Byte/s ~ About 37 MByte/s
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: crsscs on March 07, 2016, 04:47:04 AM
How come the audio category does not show in my menus?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: krishna203 on March 07, 2016, 06:47:59 AM
Hi,

I am not able to see Focus confirm option under Magic Zoom ,i tried with different lens and modes .
I can see Trigger mode,Size ,Position,Magnification.
Am i missing any other setting?

Thank you

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: nikfreak on March 07, 2016, 08:51:53 AM
MZ focus confirmation isn't supported on 70D and therefore the setting for it isn'T available, too. The property related to this function isn't available in 70D firmware. Guess that Canon handles Dual Pixel AF in some other way which requires detailed reverse engineering.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: X-STATE on March 07, 2016, 01:26:50 PM
@nikfreak
are you finished with the 70D? Do we expect further updates from you?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 07, 2016, 01:34:01 PM
No. Yes.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3 / 22th Dec)
Post by: OlRivrRat on March 07, 2016, 05:17:29 PM
      @Swardet

   If your question is related to Raw Video Recording you should state that. Otherwise the 70D is quite capable of

1920x1080 Video Capture with or without M'L'.

   Also you should "Update your forum signature and add your model (70D.111A or 70D.111B)

so (NikFreak) can organize reported bugs to the appropriate firmware revision."
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: nikfreak on March 08, 2016, 03:47:24 PM
Synched up with unified tree. New release available in 1st post.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: OlRivrRat on March 08, 2016, 11:37:07 PM
      @NikFreak or WhomEver Else might be in the Know

   Does the "Check source for details" that's being used of late in the Changelog area of the 1st Post mean that we should go to

https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/commits/branch/70D-merge

or is there some other "source" to nav' to for details ? Gleaning some "details" from that page just doesn't happen, @ least for this

M'L' Lay User. More info in the Changelog area would be Greatly Appreciated. Thank You Much again for All Your Great Work.

                                       ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: starbase64 on March 09, 2016, 07:44:19 AM
@nikfreak (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=42571)

thanks for your work, canon is nothing without Magic Lantern
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on March 09, 2016, 05:12:24 PM
Now that Canon has opened their Komono on the 80D, I was initially excited to learn
that it would offer FHD 60 fps, and FHD HDR video at 30fps.  It seemed like they might have
put a fast processor in it! But since this is Canon after all, and they are hell bent on letting marketing
hi-jack the performance, to keep XXD line subserviant to the XD line, ... the gotcha moment came
"it  only does all the above in IPB compression".  So Canon has again provided some opportunity for ML.

I guess the question of interest is can the 70D shoot:
- FHD 60 fps, IPB only, H264
- FHD HDR 30 fps, IPB only H264
These to me seem like ML enhancements opportunities, as H264 improvements are far more promising than RAW video.

I am also curious to see if their HDR works with fast moving action.  Not sure
if they can correct it?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: dmilligan on March 09, 2016, 07:34:52 PM
Features that are NOT possible - please don't request them   (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=950.0)
Quote
1080p 60fps, 2K, 4K, RAW video...
The best we could do was 1080p 35fps on 60D and 600D. If you request this, you are a 4K troll ;)

Custom codecs
Codecs are not implemented on the general-purpose ARM processor. Only MJPEG might be technically possible, since the camera already saves JPEGs.

Quote
Your question really boils down to this:
"Why can't I capture more information, by throwing away information?"

Now from a more practical standpoint:
Compression (what you refer to as "lowering the bitrate") is a difficult, computationally intensive task (it's also impossible). It is not a magical process where you throw some data in and it comes out smaller. The only way to get enough of an effective compression ratio for the incredibly huge size of a video data stream, is to just throw away some of it. The goal here being to throw out the least important information, but we are throwing away information nonetheless. The better an algorithm is at throwing away data (i.e. the better it is at figuring out what data is unimportant), typically the more complex it is. There are very easy ways to throw away data, such as reducing the resolution and line skipping, and there are very hard ways of throwing away data such as DCT

Lets now consider (a very oversimplified) pipeline that a video stream goes through in the camera:
Sensor -> Raw Data -> Image Processing (demosaic, wb, pic style, curves, etc.) -> H.264 Encoder -> Storage

If you want a 1080p stream out of the encoder, you also need that 1080p stream to make it's way through the rest of that pipeline (at 60fps). That's where the limitation is, in fact there are probably many, I'll just go over some of the possible ones:
1. The H.264 encoder, can't handle 1080p of video data coming into it at 60 fps (remember it has to do something very complex and computationally intensive with the data and then spit out that result very quickly)
2. The image processing electronics can't handle 1080p of raw data at 60 fps
3. The internal buses that move the raw data from the sensor to the image processors can't handle that much data (1920*1080*14bit*60fps = 1.7 Gigabits per second)
4. The sensor itself isn't fast enough to sample 1080 lines at 60 fps (it takes some finite amount of time to read out each line, and they are read one by one)

I'm not saying that all of those are true, but at least one or more of them are, and that's why 60p mode is a lower resolution. Overcoming any of these obstacles is possible, but it would require more transistors (i.e. faster, more complicated electronics), which would make the camera more expensive. So without more expensive internal electronics, the only way to get enough "compression" to be able to even get our video data to the encoder, is to "compress" the data starting at the sensor itself, and what's the only way to do that? line skipping and reducing the resolution -> basically don't read in as many pixels.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on March 09, 2016, 08:09:34 PM
Thanks Doug.

I recall the 600D card write speed is 50% less than the 70D.  Not sure about the 60D.
The variable fps is not working with the 70D ML presently for h264 video.
So if the 70D supports faster cpu & bus, it may very well reach 50% faster fps for 1080p than the 600D (i.e. up to 70 fps???).

I think the line of 70D investigation, has to be to use existing IPB compression chip.
Clearly IPB bit rates are less CPU than All-I.  So if the existing pipe-line can handle All-I at 720p / 60 fps,
then when we switch to IPB some of the cpu and pipeline is not used/free.  I seem to recall IPB is about 1/3 the data as All-I.
So the cpu power & pipeline has some untapped capacity in IPB.

The question becomes in 720p IPB compression, how can we trick the camera into using 1080p?
Or the converse question in 1080p IPB compression, how can we trick the camera into going 60fps?

There is some potential here. 

The HDR 60fps video correction for fast motion, to be honest sounds like a rats nest.
I wonder if you shift each frame by 1/120th of a second, alternately (shift ahead, shift behind) then
use HDR frame processing, followed by PPro stabilizer correction, if it would generate a sharp 30 fps picture?
Considering how slow HDR processing for in camera stills, this post processing would always be in post for video.


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: dmilligan on March 10, 2016, 03:51:03 AM
Quote from: ShootMeAlready on March 09, 2016, 08:09:34 PM
Clearly IPB bit rates are less CPU than All-I.  So if the existing pipe-line can handle All-I at 720p / 60 fps,
then when we switch to IPB some of the cpu and pipeline is not used/free.  I seem to recall IPB is about 1/3 the data as All-I.
So the cpu power & pipeline has some untapped capacity in IPB.
Again, encoding is NOT done on the CPU (which is way to slow for realtime compression). It is done in dedicated hardware. That hardware is very specific and cannot be changed. If it was not originally designed to do 1080p60, then it just can't. Furthermore, the amount of data coming out of the hardware encoder has little bearing on the complexity of the computations going on inside the hardware encoder. Just because the bitrate out to the card is low doesn't mean that the encoder isn't doing a lot of work. Furthermore, the bitrate out of the encoder, or the type of encoding for that matter, has no bearing on the amount of data coming *into* the encoder from the sensor, which will be double if you are trying to do 1080p60. You need a "pipeline" to the encoder that's twice as fast and powerful, regardless of the type of compression used.

Quote from: ShootMeAlready on March 09, 2016, 08:09:34 PM
The question becomes in 720p IPB compression, how can we trick the camera into using 1080p?
Or the converse question in 1080p IPB compression, how can we trick the camera into going 60fps?
The question becomes this stack of 10 $5 bills, how can we trick it into becoming a stack of 10 $10 bills? Or the converse question, this stack of 5 $10 bills, how can we trick it into becoming a stack of 10 $10 bills?

Quote from: ShootMeAlready on March 09, 2016, 08:09:34 PM
There is some potential here. 
No there isn't.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: lozw on March 12, 2016, 06:03:51 PM
Anyone got dotTune working on their 70D?

Couldn't get this working on mine

Nightly.2016Mar08.70D111A

Following the instructions,
I focus manually in LV
Start DotTune AMFA Scan.
It gives a couple of messages about perfect focus and keeping the camera still.
Then it shows the dotTune 'range' across the top of the menu screen.
But then the screen goes blank.
I leave it for 10+ minutes, and it is still blank and the camera controls are inoperative.
So I have to switch off.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: nikfreak on March 12, 2016, 06:37:15 PM
No need to duplicate questions in 2 threads. DotTune works on 70D. Better read through the dottune thread again for instructions. Screen going black rather sounds like powersave. If you are in doubt then reset cam settings and retry.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: lozw on March 12, 2016, 10:23:15 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on March 12, 2016, 06:37:15 PM
No need to duplicate questions in 2 threads. DotTune works on 70D. Better read through the dottune thread again for instructions. Screen going black rather sounds like powersave. If you are in doubt then reset cam settings and retry.

Sorry for the duplicate post.

The culprit seems to have been the LCD on/off Btn on the 2nd camera tool menu.  If I set that to remain on, the LCD remained on whilst it was performing the AFMA.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: eugene-r on March 13, 2016, 05:59:44 PM
Quote from: lozw on March 12, 2016, 06:03:51 PM
Anyone got dotTune working on their 70D?

Couldn't get this working on mine

Nightly.2016Mar08.70D111A

Following the instructions,
I focus manually in LV
Start DotTune AMFA Scan.
It gives a couple of messages about perfect focus and keeping the camera still.
Then it shows the dotTune 'range' across the top of the menu screen.
But then the screen goes blank.
I leave it for 10+ minutes, and it is still blank and the camera controls are inoperative.
So I have to switch off.
Yes, sometimes I got same "couple of messages about perfect focus" and nothing more. I switch camera off, then on, and dot_tune works normally.
Looks like it hangs rarely after lens change. I just switch camera off before change lens, then switch on and dot_tune works normally.
Not tried with 2016Mar08 version, but with previous. I have "B" firmware.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: swardet on March 14, 2016, 02:34:28 PM
Sorry if this is a duplicate/stupid question, but...

I have a 70D and 111B. I use my camera for 100% video -  only take stills for white balancing. Therefore I am mainly interested in ML for RAW video. The most I can get is 1280x720 in MLV mode and constant - hasn't bagged out on a shoot. The other mode even at that res would always top out and give me the "recording has stopped automagically" message.

Recently, I asked about the camera's throughput and someone said max is 40MB/s. Therefore, it doesn't matter if I went and bought the high speed/high capacity card at 256GB and 95MB/s for RAW, the camera can only record to media at 40MB/s. So I'm limited to MLV at 1280x720.

It seems to me that if I want RAW video, I had best upgrade to the 5dm3 and use ML, or jump canon's ship and get a panasonic gh4, right? The ability to bring the 720p RAW footage shot on 70D in and use the Camera RAW feature in DaVinci Resolve 12 is very cool, but shooting w/ CineStyle and applying the LUT to 1920x1080 stock ALL-I footage provides very similar/same color grading in my eyes, and I'm native 1080.

What if anything am I missing about the main benefits of ML RAW video on the 70d? And this is not a slam on ML - far from it - the work you guys have done/are doing is amazing (and canon should buy you). But, if I'm looking for 1080p RAW I should have bought a 5d, right?

If I'm missing something as to the feature set of ML for video
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: xsghost on March 14, 2016, 06:32:19 PM
I never heard of the GH4 shooting RAW.

I think the main benefits of shooting RAW on Canon DSLRs is having a better image quality than the processed ALL-I. And of course more color data, and dynamic range.

Of course if stock footage and shooting RAW would be my priorities, I'd rather get a Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera with a very wide M4/3 lens. It's the same price as a 70D ;)

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: aedipuss on March 15, 2016, 12:46:12 PM
swardet - yes if you need 1080 raw you need a different camera.  a 5d3 will cost you the 70d 's only advantage of auto-focus while shooting.   if manual focus only doesn't bother you i'd go there.  a gh4 will cost you all the glass also.  i might wait and see what canon releases this year.  i know of an 80d and there will be a couple other new models but no specifics.  i've heard rumors the very large sensor may get produced(200mb or more).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: swardet on March 15, 2016, 09:48:23 PM
@xsghost
i didn't say anything about the gh4 and raw.

and i don't care about raw, necessarily. in context, with ml, it appears raw is the most talked about way to get the highest depth of color out of this rig. and, i only care about the best color quality - and that's why i'm here as a video enthusiast.

honestly, i bought the 70d without fully investigating color fully. what sold me on the 70d was 1st) AF+Face Tracking w/ video. 2nd) I already had three very expensive canon lenses.

anyway, i think ml is amazing and still contend canon should buy the guys and turn this into a full fledged officially supported product offering to really exploit the canon hw.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: xsghost on March 15, 2016, 10:19:31 PM
Quote from: swardet on March 15, 2016, 09:48:23 PM
@xsghost
anyway, i think ml is amazing and still contend canon should buy the guys and turn this into a full fledged officially supported product offering to really exploit the canon hw.

Yeah.. that's never gonna happen.. Canon can exploit it's hardware, but they want you to buy the more expensive stuff for better features, like the Cxxx cameras.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Stoneeye on March 16, 2016, 03:55:23 AM
Just wondering how to do this part on a MacBook Pro:

Extract the zip-file to the root of your sdcard

Thanks!
C
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: OlRivrRat on March 16, 2016, 04:52:43 AM
      @StoneEye

   1st, Mount the SDCard on the MBP via a Card Reader & Then > Either of 2 ways ~

1 ~ Copy the Zip File to the SDCard & DoubleClick it, then Move the Contents of the resulting

"magiclantern-Nightly.2016Mar08.70D111-" Folder out of that Folder to the Root Level.

   Or

2 ~ Make a New Folder on the MBP, Put the Zip in that Folder & DoubleClick the Zip, then Copy the Contents of the resulting

"magiclantern-Nightly.2016Mar08.70D111-" Folder out of that Folder to the Root Level of the SDCard.

   I always use the 2nd method.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: aedipuss on March 18, 2016, 01:10:32 AM
if the 70d has now been merged with main, shouldn't it show up in the list of nightlies?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 18, 2016, 01:26:08 AM
Merging main to Nikfreak's fork is not identical to Nikfreak's pull request for main.
https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/commits/all
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/620/add-support-for-eos-70d-111-both-revisions/diff
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Ronsanut on March 18, 2016, 09:13:44 PM
How do I know which firmware set to load?  A or B ?  My firmware on the camera just says 1.1.1
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: OlRivrRat on March 18, 2016, 09:24:27 PM
      @Rosanut

   Just try either, only the Correct one will load. If your 70D is fairly new you will most likely need "A".

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Ronsanut on March 18, 2016, 11:31:01 PM
OlRiverRat Thank you.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Ronsanut on March 19, 2016, 01:53:14 AM
Once I install Magic Lantern if I install a new SD card will the camera still retain the firmware or do I have to have the install the ML files on every SD card I use and reinstall it with each SD card used?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: OlRivrRat on March 19, 2016, 05:12:21 AM
      @ Rosanut

   Yes ~ M'L' needs to be Loaded on each SD Card that you wish to use with M'L' Functionality.

The path that I would suggest would be to go through All the M'L' Settings that you think you might

be using on a Regular Basis & make any changes that you desire. Then Copy the M'L' Related Items

from that Card back to your computer, copy those items to any additional Cards, put them in your 70D,

Start it up, Do a FirmWare Update (Each Card 1 Time Only) & you're done. Any time that you make any

Changes to any M'L' Settings that you might want on Other Cards, simply copy the "settings" Folder from

the "ML" Folder on that "Changed" Card to the "ML" Folder on the Other Cards & you're Done Again. This

"Settings Copy&Paste" also is very handy when Updates to M'L' become available.

                           ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: ciriuss925 on March 20, 2016, 12:45:59 AM
Hello guys I am using an older Magic Lantern software for my Canon 70D.  I only have a question about DUAL-ISO images taken with 70D:

I have been able to manipulate regular (non-ML) RAW files with ACR - but it seems like my DUAL-ISO images are typically less sharp than regular images?  Also, I have noticed that there is a slight hint of red/pink noise specifically in the dark areas when I turn up the Shadow dial in ACR.  Is that normal?


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 20, 2016, 01:31:02 AM
Yes and yes.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: ciriuss925 on March 20, 2016, 04:00:33 AM
Hi Jedi, I'd like to ask for your tips on how to edit to eliminate (or soften)  those pinkish noise in the shadows for dual-iso images?  Thank you!
Title: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 20, 2016, 06:48:40 AM
Perhaps you haven't tried using chroma smoothing (CS_2x2) which helps at the cost of resolution loss (tho mild) ... It becomes more noticeable CS_5x5 afaik!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: ciriuss925 on March 20, 2016, 06:40:39 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on March 20, 2016, 06:48:40 AM
Perhaps you haven't tried using chroma smoothing (CS_2x2) which helps at the cost of resolution loss (tho mild) ... It becomes more noticeable CS_5x5 afaik!

Hi Jedi where do I install the chroma smoother for OSX ?  Thank you!

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: masterhks on March 21, 2016, 01:33:56 AM
This last update have more bugs than preview version!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: jprovidenza on March 21, 2016, 04:35:53 AM
If you have problems with the latest version, you should be more specific so the developers can address them.

John P
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: styleukno on March 21, 2016, 06:25:05 AM
When installing this current version, the march release, will all my settings get set to default again?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: OlRivrRat on March 21, 2016, 04:45:06 PM
      @Styleukno

   My Post #2377 above explains how to Save (Copy&Paste) Them into an Update ~

                           ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: 1connu on March 24, 2016, 01:28:48 AM
Sorry, I don't speak very good English :(
I just want to know if it is possible with a 70d and magic lantern to have a clean HDMI signal (more than 8bits) for an external recorder (atomos ninja blade) ? Thank you very much
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: ahsan on March 25, 2016, 05:53:42 AM
Hi,
I am trying to use the latest HDR workflow.

If I install as in the README using the included version of avisynth
I get the following error message on running main.cmd (in a command window on Windows 10 , 64 bit)
Avisynth Open Failure:
FFVideosource: Can't open '..\RAW.MOV'
(C:\Downloads\HDR-workflow-051\scripts\hdr_split.avs, line 8 (line eight))

I uninstalled Avisynth (and noticed that the directory was named 2.5)
So I downloaded the 2.5 version
Now with 2.5 I get a different error message

Avisynth Open Failure:
FFVideoSource: Video Codec Not Found "ScriptDir"
(C:\Downloads\HDR-workflow-051\scripts\hdr_split.avs, line 8' )

What am I doing wrong?
Thanks a lot for your help.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 25, 2016, 07:43:17 AM
Are you doing HDR in H.264 (MOV) or RAW or MLV?
Upload a short clip somewhere and link it here.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: ahsan on March 25, 2016, 11:56:36 AM
I'm doing HDR in MLV (RAW). After recorded I convert the footage in .mov format through using MlRawViewer then I copy my footage in HDR-workflow-051 folder and renamed the footage name into RAW. I installed avisynth.
When I run main.cmd but it didn't work.
It shows error,
FFVideosource: Can't open '..\RAW.MOV' blah blah. Please help me.

My file size is too big to upload. My net upload speed is also too weak.  :(
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 25, 2016, 12:01:38 PM
"Short clip" = "A few frames will do"
Don't have a 70D ...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: ahsan on March 25, 2016, 03:41:14 PM
Finally uploaded. Sorry for late response. Here you go https://www.dropbox.com/s/1kvd4s7a1r4kw8g/M25-0518.MLV?dl=0
Thanks in advance.  :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 25, 2016, 05:17:45 PM
Reproduced your error.
Please retest with H.264 HDR clip. I suppose you will see the same error again.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: ahsan on March 25, 2016, 05:50:35 PM
Why I will see the same error again? Is there any solution for this problem? What am I doing wrong?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 25, 2016, 05:52:56 PM
First: Delete your modifications and unzip a1ex' zip again and retry with H.264 HDR out-of-the-cam.
If problem persists please upload a small H.264 HDR clip and link it here.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: ahsan on March 26, 2016, 09:33:52 AM
Hey, it worked in H.264 HDR. Thanks, you save my life.
But I want to record in MLV HDR. Is it possible to record in MLV (raw) ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: styleukno on March 27, 2016, 09:08:47 AM
@OlRivrRat

thank you very much!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Arjayu on April 07, 2016, 03:06:41 AM
Hi,
Sorry to be very new ; used to be slr film camera 30 years ago, now new 70D, photo course 1 month, ML 12 hours!

Hope it is not obvious but I can't find in FAQ or forum how people best use the extra still features?
Is there a post i should be looking at?


[addendum ; i see http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8443.0 so will look further...]

1. AutoETTR ; best with Av mode, AutoSnap as quite a few "gave up" reports on Manual / AutoSnap?
[btw thanks , looks a good implementation to me and looking forward to the print trial and outcome]

1a.  AutoETTR ; best with M mode, for AlwaysON ; but not as easy to follow the settings and outcome?


[I think 1 and 1a fixed best by ensuring a good "average exposure estimate from settings before taking the shot....]

2. DualISO ; I see I need to process the RAW in a separate program (I see reference to cr2hdr** or similar) or just straight into Lightroom (looks OK though I can see the lines if magnified)?
[addendum 2 ; "cr2hdr"  ; I read on forum it is "included with the download" ; does that mean in the zip file?

i see also youtube instruction, so I'll look ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjbqfptpNac ] ;
but i get error that "the file does not appear to be dualiso" from lightroom

then with beta, lightroom doesn't process it, cr2hdr.exe goes through the dos details and makes a large DNG file, but lightroom can't read it!

[I see I am not alone ; 6D with similar problem in another post
example cr2 untouched
Removed as not needed;

** solved this by downloading the crhdr from th original aithor's post from 15 days ago, so i suspect the wrong file is in the plugin.zip s? ***?

https://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/view/Other%20tasks/job/cr2hdr-20bit/


3. Autoexposure ; how best to use and other Canon settings to turn off first?

4. MLbracketing ; guide to best setup? ; no point if AutoETTR working OK anyway?


5. no help files working ; I saw a reference back to the install guide ; will i find it there?
can't find help with this yet ; are they supposed to be in the 70D 111A ml file?


6. live view is fairly black until i press bbf af button ; is that usual?

7. back led very dark in movie view ; any fix?


Fixed LV/movie screen  problem by turning off Digic peaking, keeping normal peaking [the mildest type OK , but i saw some people having frame dropout even with that in movie mode, so turned it off.....]

Cheers, Randall ;

and apologies in advance if I have missed beginner hints elsewhere  ; I have seen the FAQ and basic User guide already, but not detailed enough newbie guide for me I fear?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: notthatjesus on April 07, 2016, 03:45:01 AM
Have you considered reintroducing fps override in future releases, albeit with a hard limit placed on the possible max FPS? Someone correct me if I'm wrong here but, from what I've gathered from reading through some of the pages in this thread, the feature was removed because of a noticeable dip in quality when set to anything higher than 24 fps. I understand the reasoning behind that but some users—such as myself—may use it primarily to shoot time lapse footage. In my case the quality is not so important as I usually turn it to weird, experimental-type footage. I know people traditionally use the intervalometer for time lapses but the result isn't quite as smooth as when done with video, especially when there is a lot of movement in the time lapse. It's kinda hard to explain in words so here's an example of what I mean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1_xBuAQGfY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1_xBuAQGfY)

Anyways, it's not a huge deal as I'm using the last alpha build at the moment that has it enabled but it would be nice to stay up-to-date with other fixes implemented in future updates.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: nikfreak on April 07, 2016, 11:13:55 AM
We are only able to set FPS via timerA and that again caused complaints if used below ~8-10fps if I recall it correctly. Using timerA will lead only to a hackish solution which will provide an option for "HiJello, FastTv" and others like "Low light" or "Exact FPS" will not work as they require timerB. Spent the most time on 70D porting on that issue but til date I found only one "hackish" solution to set FPS via timerB. You have to do it by modifying the appropriate register for timerB namely 0x6014 (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/src/92684d84f7205a8f72fcf889457282cd8d2af349/modules/adtg_gui/adtg_gui.c?at=iso-research&fileviewer=file-view-default#adtg_gui.c-116). But the default setup like it works on all other cams will not work on 70D. So I won't provide a "hackish" solution but an idea could be to provide some sort of module based on a1ex's recently released "crop_rec.mo" module providing some short list of fixed fps values (1 / 6 / 12 /24) as non-reversible (???) modification while the module is active.

Quote from: notthatjesus on April 07, 2016, 03:45:01 AM
especially when there is a lot of movement in the time lapse. It's kinda hard to explain in words....

Moving objects? FRSP maybe won't fit but give it a go as with intervalometer you could do 4k single-file MLV timelapses easily. If not already known then search youtube for examples.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Skjd on April 07, 2016, 05:27:34 PM
Salve a tutti, ho un problema, ho istallato ultimo firmware su 70D, ma non mi fa settare la risoluzione per la ripresa Videoraw. C'è solo una unica risoluzione alta che mi fa riprendere soltanto per 4 secondi... Come mai?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: X-STATE on April 07, 2016, 06:40:53 PM
@nikfreak
after porting dual iso in movie mode on 5d m2
Can we expect to see this on 70D?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: nikfreak on April 07, 2016, 07:49:13 PM
5D2 uses one register for it. 70d behaves like all other digic5 cameras using 2 known registers. Like FPS override using the othe register confuses the cam. DeafEyejedi has posted some videos to show how it looks (strange flickering). Also tried 6D's register but that didn't either work. I left some comments in code (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/620/add-support-for-eos-70d-111-both-revisions/diff#Lmodules/dual_iso/dual_iso.cT777) and all over this thread regarding the issue but the solution won't be to use the 5D2-method. Maybe the best thing would be to return to start and follow what the changelog from 10th Mar.: Alpha4 in red color asked everybody to do but no one cared about. Might not help but give some hints perhaps.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: lojzik on April 07, 2016, 08:37:42 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on April 07, 2016, 07:49:13 PM
10th Mar.: Alpha4 in red color asked everybody to do but no one cared about. Might not help but give some hints perhaps.
In simpler English please. Is still required some test? What to do? I don't see raw diagnostic included in beta-3b as it is written in alpha4.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: nikfreak on April 07, 2016, 08:51:30 PM
It will be included in next release.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Sayuuk on April 08, 2016, 07:55:17 AM
Timelapse from Video (on the 70D)

Advantages:
- open "acceleration", as there is basically unlimited frames to choose a time compression from

Disadvantages:
- less leeway in post (Raw vs. h264)
- lower resolution (cropping and simple sharpness)
- huge filesizes (at least at medium to long intervals, mRaw/sRaw as an option?)
- battery life

I think the only time you see issues with moving objects is with very low compression, like 3-10x or so.
You might want to try an ND-Filter to up the shutter and blur objects some more, just like in video
Now if you don't need the post-processing options and other stuff and want to do these kind of car-lapses, why not just get any random action cam?
Seems like the more appropriate solution, way smaller, cheaper and easier to mount, but will give you the kind of timelapse you linked to.


Cheers
Stefan
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 08, 2016, 06:44:32 PM
                     @ Sayuuk

          You left out an Advantage ~ Far Less Wear & Tear on the Camera.

Oh, & ~ You also end up with a real time Vid of the Session if, for some reason, you should need it.

                                                                          ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on April 08, 2016, 06:55:59 PM
Quote from: Sayuuk on April 08, 2016, 07:55:17 AM
Timelapse from Video (on the 70D)

Now if you don't need the post-processing options and other stuff and want to do these kind of car-lapses, why not just get any random action cam?


Hi Stefan!

I can't speak for jesús?, but for myself and many others, there's no desire to go spend another $400 on an action cam to do timelapse.  We prefer a single rig to carry and the quality of the sensor and processing on the 70D.  That said, one of the biggest advantages for FPS Override is saving the life of the shutter.  When you do a lot of timelapse, you burn through your shutter pretty quickly.  We typically don't need the higher resolution of the full 20MP, as the timelapse will be played back on a standard HD monitor or TV.  And aside from ML assisting with increasing the quality of our shots or videos, one of the other things it does for us is to help simplify our workflow.  When using FPS Override, as opposed to intervalometer, there's no need to download 9,000 photos (~48GB) and then stitch 9,000 photos together to make a 5 minute video.

Just my 2 cents ;-)
Cheers!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Andori0803 on April 10, 2016, 03:14:03 AM
Hi guys,
when i try to rec RAW video 1824X1026, canon stops due to a frame skipped. I use a San Disk extreme pro, class 10 95 mb/s. Can i solve this problem with another card?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 10, 2016, 03:34:16 AM
No. SD-card interface in 70D is limited to about 41 MByte/s.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Xav on April 14, 2016, 10:19:41 PM
Hello, great job on this build! I'm wondering when audio monitoring will be supported and/or where that's at.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 14, 2016, 10:29:42 PM
Don't hold your breath. Take a look at https://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/features and the Audio section there. Compare to other Digic 5 cams: Nope, none supports headphone monitoring. Making it run on Digic 5 is not within scope of this port.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: aedipuss on April 15, 2016, 03:03:45 AM
anyone moving to the 80d?  a d6 processor, slightly higher 24 mb sensor and more autofocus points.  that's about it.  same crappy uhs-I sd card interface.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: PrasadVedvikhyat on April 15, 2016, 05:50:46 PM
Quote from: aedipuss on April 15, 2016, 03:03:45 AM
anyone moving to the 80d?  a d6 processor, slightly higher 24 mb sensor and more autofocus points.  that's about it.  same crappy uhs-I sd card interface.

According to the review by The Camera Store guys the sensor of 80D is pretty great and at par with the competitors. And according to the following post, the write speed is around 80mbps! Need to be verified though.
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=17960747
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: josepvm on April 15, 2016, 05:58:40 PM
Yes, it seems that 80D's sensor includes on-chip A/D conversion, aproaching the DR at ISO 100 to the DR seen on Sony sensors.

But 80D is a Digic 6 camera. And ML has not been ported yet to any Digic 6 camera... and porting it seems a very difficult and time consuming task ... so don't expect to see ML running on a 80D soon.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: nikfreak on April 15, 2016, 07:01:10 PM
Please stay on topic- namely 70D. If you want to talk about 80D then open up a new thread.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: tisa94 on April 16, 2016, 11:37:37 AM
很高兴
so happy.
现在我有一个账号
Now I have an account.
I am a Chinese, using 70D for a year,and using ML for half a year.
Before I can only see you discuss.
Now I can ask the question, and I hope someone will answer me.

1,dual iso 
     Which software can be exported, and the latter process.
2,FPS
     What time appears again in the new version, I see the moderator in the discussion of FPS.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: tisa94 on April 16, 2016, 06:12:55 PM
No one answer me :-X :'(,Do you all sleep?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 16, 2016, 08:55:13 PM
      @Tisa94

   Welcome ~ Most of the Wizards here are a bit Slow To Respond. I would try but am not DualISO Saavy.

As for FPS Override, you can go back to "8 August: Alpha-7a2" Build for Limited use. I keep that Build on

1 of My SDCards just for that purpose.

   Be patient & enjoy.

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: tisa94 on April 17, 2016, 10:10:07 AM
@OlRivrRat

Where is the 7a2? My English is so bad cause me can not find it.

Can you help me?Thank you!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: devomk on April 17, 2016, 02:23:21 PM
Hi ML users.  Does anyone got the previous  (before 8 March ) ML update?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: aedipuss on April 17, 2016, 03:13:08 PM
tisa94 - get the cr2hdr zip from - https://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/view/Other%20tasks/job/cr2hdr-20bit/
extract all files into a folder.  put your cr2 dualiso pictures in there.  highlight them all and drag them onto cr2hdr.exe.  it will export all pictures as .dng that will open in photoshop.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 18, 2016, 05:43:41 PM
           @Tisa94    &    @Devomk

       Sent EMails to both of You ~ Did You Receive?

                                                ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: andy kh on April 18, 2016, 06:43:45 PM
hi 70D guys. i have been using  650D for a while. thinking of upgrading to 70D. what do u guys say? is it worth it? how is everyone experiencing with ML on 70D?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: tisa94 on April 20, 2016, 06:47:55 AM
@OlRivrRat

Thank you,but I do not receive.Can you give the 7a2,

请注意我在中国
Please note that I am in China.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: AndreRodrigues on April 21, 2016, 07:55:43 PM
Guys, quick question:

I want use ML just for the Zebras, focus and RGB waveforms, nothing more.

I'll no use for RAW or nothing like that...

Using like that, what are the risks? Can I really brick the camera or is safe?

Sorry for if this looks like a dumb question.

Thx
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 21, 2016, 08:00:11 PM
Yes, you can really brick the cam. Never happened but there is no guarantee your cam will not be the very first turning into a paperweight.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: AndreRodrigues on April 21, 2016, 08:42:05 PM
Hehehe so I think its a risk, but not too much :D

I worked with phones for long time, unblocking, jailbreaking and etc... So, I'll try it :D

Tnx for the answer dude!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: AndreRodrigues on April 21, 2016, 09:17:13 PM
Ok, I already installed it. Perfect.

Now another question:

It's not possible work with two cards? Even copying the content of one card to another one, just the first one boot ML menu. So, U can't change cards?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 21, 2016, 09:21:07 PM
Top of page -> User Guide
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 21, 2016, 10:29:43 PM
      @AndreRodrigues

   Go back & check out My Reply #2377.

            ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: AndreRodrigues on April 21, 2016, 11:20:08 PM
Guys, tnx for all the tips! It's working and it's AMAZING!

I loved the RGB/W histogram, and zebras and focus peak?! WOW! AMAZING!

Congratz for this incredible job! Waiting for more updates!

Tnx a lot!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Peejay51 on April 23, 2016, 12:33:11 AM
Hi

Ive downloaded and then updated the firmware etc.  It all worked fine, thanks.  Only there doesn't appear to be any audio adjustments for video .  I particularly wanted the audio recording level bar I've seen others add and use.  Am i missing something?   

Thanks for any help
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: AndreRodrigues on April 23, 2016, 03:02:13 AM
Peejay, u need put the settings of the camera for audio manual. Probably yours is set to automatic :D


Guys, one question:

I'm using the focus peak with 1% and the zebras at 99%. What u guys normally use?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 23, 2016, 05:24:35 AM
      @AndreRodrigues & PeeJay51

   Cam' Audio Does Not need to be set to Manual, M'L' Audio Meters work with Both Auto or Manual.

@PeeJay51 ~ You may need to turn on the MLV_Sound Module. MLV_Sound is Very Limited on the 70D

but the Level Meters Do Work.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Peejay51 on April 23, 2016, 01:32:12 PM
Many thanks @AndresRodrigeus & OlRivrRat

Sorry for my complete ignorance but where Is the MLV_Sound Module found?  Is it within the latest download or a separate download.  I saw from vids of previous d/ls that there was an audio menu option that doesn't appear in the version that I've just downloaded, which was 70D.111A

Thanks in advance for any help
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 23, 2016, 05:35:16 PM
      @PeeJay51

   In the M'L'Menu go to the Modules Tab (5th from Right) & Turn On Any of the Modules

that You might want.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Peejay51 on April 23, 2016, 06:00:22 PM
Thanks OlRiverRat

Tried some of the Modules but got 'failed to link modules' error messages.  Also 'save configs' Not sure what to do with it now.  Although there didn't seem to be a module that referred to Audio level meter

Cheers
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 23, 2016, 06:01:57 PM
MLV_SND.mo links into MLV_REC.mo. You get this error by not loading MLV_REC.mo.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Peejay51 on April 23, 2016, 06:56:34 PM
Sorry next question.  :D Does the audio meter function work only with RAW?  If so how do i select RAW in the video recording options?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 23, 2016, 07:06:26 PM
No, enable Audio record option in Canon menu and you will see Audio Meter in LV/record screen. Toggle view by Info button.
To configure MLV/RAW record load MLV_REC.mo and open Movie tab to access RAW record options.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2016, 07:13:51 PM
*edited* thanx for feedback
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: Peejay51 on April 23, 2016, 08:44:19 PM
Thanks again.  I think i'm getting there slowly  :-\
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 23, 2016, 09:18:14 PM
      @NikFreak

   Initial install on My "B" was a bit Flaky ~ M'L' Menu came up OK & I went through Tabs to see if there were any obvious

changes. Found ( RedDot @ Memory patches      >   None ) in Debug menu. When I clicked "TrashCan" to Exit the Canon Menu

came up & I could not turn it off. I shut Cam' Off & LED stayed on so I Ejected Batt'. On Restart got warning about Bad Shut Down so

I did 2 more Restarts. Then M'L' Menu came up in JunkyView & when I was able to get out of that all Modules were Off. Removed SD &

Reloaded New Beta & all seems Norm' now but still have ( RedDot @ Memory patches      >   None ) in Debug menu.

                                 ORR~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3b / 8th Mar)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2016, 09:21:20 PM
olRivRat I just removed the test build and will update the first post within minutes to the official Beta3c release.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2016, 09:39:00 PM
first post updated with a new release. feedback welcome as always.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: aedipuss on April 23, 2016, 09:41:16 PM
thank you nikfreak, your work is well appreciated!  live long and prosper :-)  what would we do without ya!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Ignis on April 23, 2016, 10:36:17 PM
Evening,

I was wondering, on some other canon cameras, you get the to choose resolutions like 1584x, 1728x and so on, is it possible to get that ability here as well? Because i would love to have the ability to record at a resolution between 1600x and 1280x. And are there any forecasts of when/if Bitrate mods for h.264 are coming back?

Regards,
Ignis
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on April 24, 2016, 08:53:44 AM
You can set the resolution and also aspect ratio to suit your needs in much more steps in between your stated ones. Try again. It's nothing new.  :P
Bitrate mods will not come back. There have been official changes lately for 5D3 / 6D in terms of disabling h264 modifications (bitrate). 70D fits that as well and has already ALL-I / IPB settings to chose from. You better shoot RAW with 70D or at Canons default provided H264 settings.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: stan101 on April 24, 2016, 06:51:55 PM
Hi guys, just reporting a bug

version B firmware
Full size raw stills, 2 second showing of the taken image
ML options all at default.
Beta build 23 April, 2016
"Raw error, falling back to YUV overlays" is noted in the bottom left of the screen when the captured image is shown on the screen. If you need more specifics, please advise.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: a1ex on April 24, 2016, 07:09:28 PM
Load raw_diag (first post), enable "Dump RAW Buffer" and "Optical Black Zones", disable all other analysis options, then take a picture. Once you found a picture that triggers the error, upload the DNG and the screenshot.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on April 24, 2016, 07:10:20 PM
Thanx for reporting. That one was always there in terms of broken "RAW zebras in QR" but hidden. The feature itself is undefined in features.h but the "black level fix PR" introduced just the message to print on the LCD. So nothing to worry about but we will find a solution for that by either hiding it again to avoid confusion or fix it somehow / somewhen. if you are interested in more details you may take a look into the 70D-PR discussions on bitbucket. Especially how it would look alike if we would use "raw zebras in QR". Once we discussed about it we stopped again after realizing that only a "burst sequence" would help and something seems to write into the buffer.

edit: Placed link to raw_diag.mo to top of first post
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 24, 2016, 09:38:42 PM
Ignis
On my 600D which does not have All-I compression bit rates increases are more critical.
The 70D ALL-I is just as good as max bit-rate enhancement, and supports ISO 1600, so its better than raw video for low light ~ IMHO.
I think the 70D is best used with ALL-I for video.
Raw video on 70D is frought with issues, 720p continuous or 1600/2:49 at 60s max. clip time,
but max ISO of 800 unless you want to worry about hot pixels or low light shadow noise.

Andre
My suggestions for focus peaks on, and zebras I would only worry about overexposure which 1% is pretty good.
If you shoot raw, and by that I mean timelapse or still pics then ETTR, which many recommend a 1/3rd of a stop.

RGB histo, I stopped using it as the peaks & zebras are all I need for clipping (perhaps on stills review or shot set-up).
On occasion magic zoom with 3X lossless zoom, but if you really want to get the best manual focus check,
I suggest LCD loupe with 3X magnification.  Its more precise than focus boxes.
Especially good if you poke a whole in bottom of loupe and use touchscreen AF in video to pull focus.
Use the flash button to on/off aiservo and youve got a rather powerful video camera that pulls focus, follows focus, or fixes AF while shooting. ~ JMHO
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: lojzik on April 25, 2016, 09:00:35 AM
Quote from: a1ex on April 24, 2016, 07:09:28 PM
Load raw_diag (first post), enable "Dump RAW Buffer" and "Optical Black Zones", disable all other analysis options, then take a picture. Once you found a picture that triggers the error, upload the DNG and the screenshot.
how to use this module? If I enable "RAW diagnostic" and take picture or execute XXX Bracket, I get only standard photo and "raw error" and nothing else.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: andy kh on May 02, 2016, 12:44:30 PM
i welcome myself to 70D forum as i have upgraded to 70D from 650D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: SerranoTheHun on May 02, 2016, 05:06:13 PM
Hi,

I'm planning to install ML on my 70D, but I'm still in hesitation. I'll have to record a wedding in a week and I'm still not sure if I should Install it or just use CineStyle. Installation doesn't seem to be difficult. Can anyone help me with a short instruction please?

Thank you all!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 02, 2016, 05:26:48 PM
I suppose your hidden question is about recording RAW/MLV instead of H.264.
You may try it the next days but keep in mind:
- RAW/MLV on 70D is limited to about 720p24 for continuous recording.
- RAW/MLV may slow down your pp workflow. You may have to use some tools unfamiliar to you and may have to fight some unfamiliar issues.

What about recording H.264 using ML overlays? Zebras, focus peak and some other features may come handy.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: SerranoTheHun on May 02, 2016, 06:54:57 PM
I dont want to use raw for the wedding, The original 1080p is fine for now. But ML has some handy features as I see. The installation is not really clear yet.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 02, 2016, 07:02:53 PM
ML doesn't replace custom picture styles. Therefore "install it or just use Cinestyle" doesn't make sense.
And what is unclear about install instructions?
=====
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: SerranoTheHun on May 02, 2016, 09:02:10 PM
I thought it was going to be harder. I installed it, but the battery died few minutes after so I'm waiting but it was working very nicely. Focus peeking will be very useful for me. I noticed that tha ML setting is flashing en every ten seconds. Is that the bug relating to settings disappear?

Cheers! :D ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 02, 2016, 09:05:51 PM
Quote from: SerranoTheHun on May 02, 2016, 09:02:10 PMI noticed that tha ML setting is flashing en every ten seconds. Is that the bug relating to settings disappear?
That's the workaround for first item in "What's not working" list.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Frarike on May 04, 2016, 01:20:58 AM
Does anyone get error 70 when taking a picture in liveview with all modules loaded and only focus peaking overlay?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: dmilligan on May 04, 2016, 04:32:24 AM
I'm not sure if Lua has made its way into 70D builds, but if it has and you have lua.mo loaded and try to load all the scripts, you might be seeing the err70 because of this. Lua uses a lot of memory and causes fragmentation that leaves not very many larger blocks. Canon firmware usually gives and err70 when it can't allocate enough memory to do whatever it was trying to do. You can post a screenshot of Debug > Free Memory, and try unloading the Lua module or deleting some of the scripts.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: sectorchan on May 04, 2016, 09:54:41 AM
Hi,

I've downloaded the latest version for my 70D, did the Update.
I would like to use the Motion detect.
But no matter what I configure, it doesnt work.
The squares which should appear, (from Youtube videos) doesn't.
I there an issue? Or do I need  to spend attention to some other settings which blocks the motion detect?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 04, 2016, 02:37:41 PM
For motion detect, ensure your lens is in AF.
Check your display/menu and ensure aiservo or movieservo is enabled.  This can in video mode
be turned off via flash button.  If its grey on the display then its off.
Aiservo does not work in 3X or 10X video zoom modes.

As for the box you are after, well there are three different boxes based on AF mode - zone (single or multi) or facial recog.  The boxes look slightly different based on the AF mode.

Check these first.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Frarike on May 04, 2016, 06:10:41 PM
Quote from: dmilligan on May 04, 2016, 04:32:24 AM
I'm not sure if Lua has made its way into 70D builds, but if it has and you have lua.mo loaded and try to load all the scripts, you might be seeing the err70 because of this. Lua uses a lot of memory and causes fragmentation that leaves not very many larger blocks. Canon firmware usually gives and err70 when it can't allocate enough memory to do whatever it was trying to do. You can post a screenshot of Debug > Free Memory, and try unloading the Lua module or deleting some of the scripts.

Think you're correct thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: sectorchan on May 04, 2016, 07:32:37 PM
Hi,

I was speaking about these boxes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igE7R2RC-9A Maybe they are cam related?
Does the motion detect only works in movie mode?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: DrKipKnight on May 05, 2016, 04:11:10 AM
Had a hard memory fault using Beta 3b in Tv mode.

crash00.log:

ASSERT: FALSE
at ./Memory/Memory.c:188, task MetaCtg
lv:1 mode:15


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2016Mar08.70D111A
Mercurial changeset   : 5cc959aee33d (70D-merge) tip
Built on 2016-03-08 14:39:56 UTC by ml@ml-pc.
Free Memory  : 64K + 1002K

Corresponding to "log001.log":

Mon May  2 07:23:06 2016
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: dmilligan on May 05, 2016, 03:28:35 PM
@DrKipKnight, See my reply #2463
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 05, 2016, 05:36:48 PM
      @ DMilligan

   Lau.mo Does Not appear under the Modules Tab on the 70D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on May 05, 2016, 07:58:46 PM
lua.mo is included since it has been merged into unified. check modules dir
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 06, 2016, 03:36:44 AM
      @NikFreak

   Oooops ~ Didn't find it earlier because the Modules are in Alphabetical Order & Grouped by On & Off

& I failed to scroll down into the Off Group ~ What is its Purpose?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jprovidenza on May 06, 2016, 05:15:31 AM
I just installed the 23rd Apr on my 70D and have a couple of comments.

First - I really like ML and appreciate the work that goes on to make it happen.

I notice a problem with buttons that I think is ongoing.  In still photography, when I push
the playback button then the + button to enlarge the image, it jumps to full zoom immediately.
I think the "set"  button is also "twitchy".

The second issue should probably be directed to the ETTR forum, but maybe it belongs here???
I use the "set" button to trigger ETTR. Given you need to be in RAW mode AND manual mode AND
the ISO value set to non-auto, it would be nice if when either of these is wrong and you press "set"
that the ETTR module would print something saying whats wrong.  It took me a set these values after
loading the latest version.

John P
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on May 06, 2016, 06:44:34 AM
Quote from: jprovidenza on May 06, 2016, 05:15:31 AM
the playback button then the + button to enlarge the image, it jumps to full zoom immediately.
I think the "set"  button is also "twitchy".

disable QZ

Quote from: jprovidenza on May 06, 2016, 05:15:31 AM
it would be nice if when either of these is wrong and you press "set"
that the ETTR module would print something saying whats wrong. 

ML handes stuff like that with menu warnings. Nothing wrong here.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Stigliano on May 06, 2016, 05:25:02 PM
Using Google Translate. First thanks for ML . Testing the recording MLV , the lens IS work? It is expected to have when the FPS override ? With the MLV or MOV . In a moment, connected external monitor, the machine 's monitor Touch continued working, not now . What's wrong, anyone know ? hug
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 06, 2016, 05:47:32 PM
      @Stigliano

   As for FPS Override, you can go back to "8 August: Alpha-7a2" Build for Limited use. I keep that Build on

1 of My SDCards just for that purpose.

   I use DSLR Controller with an Android Device for external monitoring & have full time Image & Touch on

Both External & 70D Monitors.

   Be patient & enjoy.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Stigliano on May 06, 2016, 06:10:49 PM
@OlRivrRat
Where can I download this version ? Thank you and hug
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Frarike on May 11, 2016, 05:23:01 PM
Quote from: Stigliano on May 06, 2016, 06:10:49 PM
@OlRivrRat
Where can I download this version ? Thank you and hug

Page 1

@nikfreak Please can you check your PMs.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Stigliano on May 13, 2016, 03:58:30 PM
Quote from: Frarike on May 11, 2016, 05:23:01 PM
Page 1

@nikfreak Please can you check your PMs.

I did not find the link to download. Only the description of the version. It could be a direct link to the download.
OlrivrRat sent me by email.

Tks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Frarike on May 13, 2016, 06:19:44 PM
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9Mu66yg5QzRRzB1ejBwSnB4Q0U&usp=sharing

It's under Installation Instructions for future reference.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 13, 2016, 06:54:05 PM
      @Frarike

   Stigliano was wanting the "8 August: Alpha-7a2" Build not the Latest "Beta-3c" ~

                           ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Frarike on May 13, 2016, 08:30:38 PM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on May 13, 2016, 06:54:05 PM
      @Frarike

   Stigliano was wanting the "8 August: Alpha-7a2" Build not the Latest "Beta-3c" ~

                           ORR ~ DeanB

oh I see. Sorry for that. @Stigliano
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: waxdes9703 on May 15, 2016, 07:12:35 PM
Hi!
I have a little problem.
I installed ML and in my basic canon menu disappeared some menu and text.
I don't get error. How can I restore the basic firmware?
I tried to uninstall but nothing. ML uninstalled but text still missing.
What can I do?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 15, 2016, 07:17:36 PM
Screenshot, please!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: waxdes9703 on May 15, 2016, 07:33:11 PM
(http://kepfeltoltes.hu/160515/DSC_0015_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg)
(http://kepfeltoltes.hu/160515/DSC_0016_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: waxdes9703 on May 15, 2016, 07:53:26 PM
what can I do with this?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: a1ex on May 15, 2016, 08:02:57 PM
You did copy the ROM files to PC when you installed, right?

I don't need them right now; just make sure they are in a safe place.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: waxdes9703 on May 15, 2016, 08:14:48 PM
Yes. I copied all file to my computer.
I tried to copy back but still not work.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on May 15, 2016, 08:26:09 PM
Can you remember what you did right before noticing this? I would like to reproduce it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: waxdes9703 on May 15, 2016, 08:29:03 PM
I installed the ML after I shoot some raw video. I pulled out the card i I turn on the camera without card after this I uninstalled the ML after this I reloaded and the menu disappeared.
Can I reinstall the firmware or what can I do whit this?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: a1ex on May 15, 2016, 08:42:55 PM
Send us the current contents of the ROM, so we can reproduce the error in QEMU.

To do so:
- delete ML/LOGS/ROM*.BIN from your card (don't delete the backup ones from the PC; keep those safe)
- start ML and wait until the LED activity calms down; this will re-create the ROM files
- send us the files by PM (not public link)
- keep an eye on https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2535/70d-black-screen-menu (we can't emulate the 70D GUI yet, so it won't be a quick fix)

Don't rush to reinstall yet, as the results may be unpredictable.

BTW, if you start in C mode, is the menu behaving any better?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: waxdes9703 on May 15, 2016, 08:51:21 PM
I sent for you alex.
I tried in C mode but still bad. Same problem.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: mnolan1989 on May 16, 2016, 12:50:23 AM
I assume I just can't find it but how would I know which version (A or B) to put on my 70d all I have seen is new/old but I purchased mine used off the internet and have no idea when... Thank you for making a ML for this camera. I used to used this for time-lapse a bunch on my t2i and it worked great. Looking forward to having ML again!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: AndreRodrigues on May 16, 2016, 04:33:54 AM
Hi guys!

Anyone knows if there's a way through the ML or maybe another way to put more than 3 user pictures styles on 70D? Perhaps replacing one of the default profiles? Or another solution? Or I only can have 3 user PP's?

Thx a lot!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: waxdes9703 on May 16, 2016, 09:08:45 AM
Have somebody an original 70d firmware?? (1.1.1)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Frarike on May 16, 2016, 11:38:19 AM
Quote from: mnolan1989 on May 16, 2016, 12:50:23 AM
I assume I just can't find it but how would I know which version (A or B) to put on my 70d all I have seen is new/old but I purchased mine used off the internet and have no idea when... Thank you for making a ML for this camera. I used to used this for time-lapse a bunch on my t2i and it worked great. Looking forward to having ML again!!

You don't know. Try A first and it will either work or tell you to try version B.

Quote from: waxdes9703 on May 16, 2016, 09:08:45 AM
Have somebody an original 70d firmware?? (1.1.1)

In what form? If on the camera then everyone
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: waxdes9703 on May 16, 2016, 01:09:50 PM
I need the firmware. So the .fir file.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: a1ex on May 16, 2016, 01:57:50 PM
I can reflash your ROM, but I'm going to do that only as a last resort.

First I want to understand what the problem is. However, that alone may take a few days or weeks.

But if you are so impatient, given that you are asking others for the firmware file contrary to my advice, I can try to restore Canon settings. It may solve the problem or it may make things worse, I don't know. Your choice.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: AndreRodrigues on May 16, 2016, 04:06:17 PM
Anyone can help me with my question? I posted it on the wrong place?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: dmilligan on May 16, 2016, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: AndreRodrigues on May 16, 2016, 04:33:54 AM
Anyone knows if there's a way through the ML or maybe another way to put more than 3 user pictures styles on 70D?

Believe it or not, the search (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?action=search) works pretty well:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7887.0
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11033.0
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=1498.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: joerg560 on May 16, 2016, 09:26:31 PM
Hi
Since the last update (23rd Apr 16: Beta-3c)70D.111A,
I have an error message.
"Raw error, falling back to YUV overlays"

(http://i64.tinypic.com/124bm1w.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Frarike on May 16, 2016, 10:41:54 PM
Quote from: joerg560 on May 16, 2016, 09:26:31 PM
Hi
Since the last update (23rd Apr 16: Beta-3c)70D.111A,
I have an error message.
"Raw error, falling back to YUV overlays"

(http://i64.tinypic.com/124bm1w.jpg)

Have you loaded modules?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: a1ex on May 16, 2016, 10:50:11 PM
@both: have you read the last few pages?

@Frarike: what module(s) did you have in mind for solving this error?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: AndreRodrigues on May 16, 2016, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on May 16, 2016, 05:38:38 PM
      @AndreRodrigues

   1 of the Wizards here will hopefully answer Your question as to if it could ever be doable in M'L'. But in the meantime ~

You can make Limited Alterations to any of the Canon Supplied Pic'Styles Presets in the Canon Menu but you can't Rename them

so you need to Keep Notes or have a Good Memory.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB

Thx man :D I was wondering if I can load more than 3 PP's to the camera :D

Quote from: dmilligan on May 16, 2016, 05:55:21 PM
Believe it or not, the search (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?action=search) works pretty well:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7887.0
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11033.0
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=1498.0

Sorry man! You're right, I should used the search. I always complain about people which don't do that, and I did the same now. Sorry.

And thx, that answer my question. Thx a lot.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on May 17, 2016, 12:06:46 AM
Quote from: a1ex on May 16, 2016, 10:50:11 PM
...in mind for solving this error?

+1  ;D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Frarike on May 17, 2016, 08:39:56 AM
Don't judge me please on my stupidity?  ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: waxdes9703 on May 17, 2016, 02:05:26 PM
Sorry for my impatience but I have to use my camera and for now i cannot.
I saw in your bitbucket post I can dump the serial flash but I don't know how can I put a module in the ML.
I see a C code but in ML only use lua.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on May 17, 2016, 02:29:41 PM
Frarike did you also use lua when your problem appeared?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Frarike on May 17, 2016, 02:52:46 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on May 17, 2016, 02:29:41 PM
Frarike did you also use lua when your problem appeared?

No I turned it off after finding out it was causing err 70.
Title: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 17, 2016, 09:24:54 PM
Sorry guys as I'm usually late on updates and reporting such. After playing with Beta-3c / 23rd Apr on 70D.111B recently which all seems normal to me. The time-out ML menu fix seems to work but not perfect. Still better than nothing, right?

Also I notice the Shutter-Fine tune feature doesnt seem to respond to changes (will post video later) but since I haven't been playing with this one in awhile and remember that this may be 'normal' since it's already set in 1/48 on ML menu even with Canon menu showing 1/50, right?

Also I think I read it somewhere back in this thread that someone couldn't get clean HDMI out from this -- You can (kind of) with ML overlays enabled to always off or while recording. Then you can crop the footage in Post (may not be pretty but it's doable if exposed correctly) preferably shot in MLV RAW than H264 for obvious reasons.

I'll post screen flow from external monitor for you guys to see later on ... Also let me know if there any specifics re: ML that you would like for me to iron out on this toy?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 18, 2016, 05:27:42 PM
      @D'E'Jedi

   Sure glad you mentioned > "The time-out ML menu fix seems to work but not perfect" as I had no idea that that "Fix"

had been implemented. Sure Would Be Nice if a List of Changes would accompany New Builds.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Miguel Nova on May 18, 2016, 05:34:11 PM
Hello everyone. Im new to this forum and wanted to share something that seems wrong with my Canon 70D after installing Magic Lantern.

I have a Canon 70D and I installed the proper download to my camera. ML opens fine and works the way it should but when the ML menu is on the viewfinder the screen flickers non stop. I downloaded the first download and it said to try the other one which I did and like I said it works fine minor the flickering of the view finder.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Miguel Nova on May 18, 2016, 05:57:30 PM
I checked the forum and the only thing I could find was the ML timing out and going back to the normal view.  This does not happen to me, it only flickers on and off but it goes back to the ML menu.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 18, 2016, 08:52:27 PM
You got it all wrong.
First: Thou shalt not mix versions for different firmware version. Format card in cardreader. Format card in cam. Redo installation steps for your firmware version. Do *not* (= never) replace ML files with files not made for your firmware version. You may risk permanent damage (worst case).
Second: 70D has troubles with vanishing screen (as described in first post of this thread). A workaround has been implemented lately causing the very effect you have mentioned.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on May 18, 2016, 09:50:34 PM
post a video of your problem
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 19, 2016, 05:53:11 AM
      @Miguel Nova

   Prior to the 23Apr Build if you were in "LiveView" or "Movie" Modes & you were Accessing the M'L' Menu the

Menu would "Go Away" after about 4Sec's of Inactivity. It appears as though a 'Fix' for this was implemented with

the 23Apr Build & now the M'L' Menu Auto Redisplays after a Short Bit of "Overlay Stuttering". Is that what You are

experiencing or are Your "Screen Flickers" different from that?

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: pjeff on May 27, 2016, 01:59:19 PM
can you make new build ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Audionut on May 30, 2016, 04:28:04 AM
Quote from: pjeff on May 27, 2016, 01:59:19 PM
can you make new build ?

We can make new builds every couple of minutes, but since there would be no changes since the last build, it would be rather pointless........right!

Please read the last few F.A.Q's. (http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/faq#when_will_you_release_the_next_version)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 30, 2016, 06:00:41 PM
      @PJeff

   What AudioNut Said + Is there a Specific Reason that You Feel The Need for a New Build?

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: condor11 on May 31, 2016, 05:54:09 AM
I've been considering purchasing 70D and installing ML on it.
I understand there are issues with Autofocus on the 70D, picture may come out of focus when using ViewFinder.

Curious if MagicLantern addon helps to address this in any way.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 31, 2016, 07:24:24 AM
Nope.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: redcloud3 on May 31, 2016, 09:41:30 AM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on May 30, 2016, 06:00:41 PM
      @PJeff

   What AudioNut Said + Is there a Specific Reason that You Feel The Need for a New Build?

                     ORR ~ DeanB
I am new here since a few months and totally flashed about the features of ML and I admire the work which is behind. I am checking this thread every (EVERY!) day if there is maybe an update for the 70D.
And if someone would ask me, I would say, I am looking so much forward to see the "Stack Focus" functionality is included.
Have a nice day :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: waxdes9703 on June 03, 2016, 01:45:05 PM
I have a problem.
I installed the ML, I used 1-2 days and I uninstalled but now missing a lot of text from the original canon menu and anywhere.
Can you please someone help for me? Can somebody give me an original firmware what I can reinstall?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 03, 2016, 01:56:40 PM
Quote from: waxdes9703 on June 03, 2016, 01:45:05 PMCan somebody give me an original firmware what I can reinstall?

No, Canon never published the first firmware version delivered with their DSLRs. You are already in contact with a1ex and have to be patient because he is occupied with other stuff right now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Nathan70 on June 06, 2016, 01:31:49 AM
Any idea when the offical release for the 70d will come out?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: dmilligan on June 06, 2016, 01:01:03 PM
Top of Page > User Guide > FAQ > Troll Questions
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: gene8522 on June 11, 2016, 10:23:32 PM
I have tried everything to get the updated ML firmware for the EOS 70D to work on my camera. When I did get the 70D to install the firmware it is not at all stable. The viewfinder flicks back and forth between the original screen and the ML screen. When I start the video the viewfinder changes to the original screen and stays there. Plus there is no sound level on the viewfinder. I did not try much else because I was afraid I might start having other problems as well so I uninstalled.     
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 12, 2016, 06:10:04 AM
   Anytime the 70D is in either LiveView or Movie Modes the M'L'Menu attempts to "TurnOff" after roughly 4Secs of Inactivity but the latest

build of M'L' has an "AutoMenuRestart" ability.

   If You want VU Meters you need to Enable the "mlv_snd" Module under the Modules Tab. You need to "Scroll" through the Displays with the

InfoButton to get to the M'L' Screen.

   Whenever M'L' is not doing what you think It Should Do, You need to consider that You May Be @ Fault ~ PilotError ~

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: UncleChip on June 12, 2016, 09:42:57 PM
DNG files not working

I have read everything I can find but still cant get PS or Lightroom to recognise my dng files

Is there a gui for windows that will convert my dng to something adobe friendly? tried the exiftools to change the meta but it hasn't made any difference,
using MLVMystic to extract the dng and this works great,

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 13, 2016, 12:37:29 AM
Upload sample DNG somewhere and link it here.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: UncleChip on June 13, 2016, 01:00:28 AM
https://drive.google.com/a/javeapropertyservices.com/folderview?id=0B2fVk87iU79pRk1sb0NpT0trUDg&usp=sharing

mlvraw
hdr

extracted using mlvmystic

this is what i do on the 5dII and it works
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 13, 2016, 03:51:31 AM
And which workflow doesn't?
Please provide source file and converted DNG (= *not* working).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: UncleChip on June 13, 2016, 12:13:44 PM
i have put up the mlv file and a few of the extracted dngs that dont work

UPDATE
changing the mettadata has now worked, i didnt understand how to change this properly, thought i has but hadnt, now i have they will open in ACR
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: gator81 on June 15, 2016, 11:22:57 PM
I am sorry if I am not posting this correctly. I have a new grandson and sleep has evaded me lately.
I am new to the slr cameras and stumbled across this. I have had my 70d for 5 weeks now and I did install ml ok and when i downloaded all the modules and re started the camera it all seem to work fine.
I tried to take a quick pic with the default settings and had an error, the crash.log had this:
ASSERT: FALSE
at ./Memory/Memory.c:188, task CtrlSrv
lv:0 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2016Apr23.70D111A
Mercurial changeset   : 591ba5bf7c75 (70D-merge) tip
Built on 2016-04-23 19:23:06 UTC by ml@ml-VirtualBox.
Free Memory  : 64K + 779K

I also have a log000.log file if you would need that also.

again i am sorry if i have not done the research, I am old and tired.

I did uninstall for now and removed the files off my card but i have them backed up on my pc.

thank you for any help, or if there is any other info you need let me know
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on June 16, 2016, 08:15:54 AM
You probably got the LUA module enabled. Disable it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: PFinnegan on June 21, 2016, 11:38:10 PM
Sorry if I am not doing this right but I'm not clear on the process for reporting issues.

Just thought I'd report a behavior I am seeing on my 70D when running ML (2016Apr23.70D111A). With ML installed and running, if I take a shot and then review it on the LCD, then press the MAGNIFY button, the image zooms in fully, rather than just magnifying to the next level. In order to zoom in only partially I have to hit the magnify button which zooms in full, then zoom out with the REDUCE button.

If I power down the camera, insert a non-ML SD card and then power the camera back up, the MAGNIFY and REDUCE buttons function normally.

If I power down the camera, re-insert the ML SD card and then power the camera back up, the MAGNIFY and REDUCE buttons again function improperly.

Hope this helps
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on June 22, 2016, 07:50:35 AM
not an issue. You rather "played" too much with the ML settings and enabled the feature "quick zoom" without understanding what it does.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: janjan on June 22, 2016, 03:03:04 PM
Hi,
Is focus Stacking still disabled in the latest Ml release for the 70D?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: grey on June 23, 2016, 02:31:05 AM
Issue: Magic Zoom does not work when I set it to ZoomIn(+) ?
Observation: In last build Electronic Level work very stable, but not rock solid as it work on my 6D.
70D 111A
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jeffpiercemagic on June 23, 2016, 04:48:14 PM
So are there any apps on android that allow me to use my phone or tablet to watch the video liveview to monitor the audio?

Jeff
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Marc_Petzold on June 24, 2016, 09:01:35 PM
Ok that was all was the community can do for the 70D. The most and beautiful photo applikations are left out.

A half live for the seventy D  :-[

The first Canon without full lantern extent.

pity deadly seventy D.

the beginning of the end from lantern? I hope that comes new Inspiration, for my other 70D users

Good by

and many thanks for the effort and hope for the users
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on June 24, 2016, 09:58:16 PM
Quote from: Marc_Petzold on June 24, 2016, 09:01:35 PM
Ok that was all was the community can do for the 70D. The most and beautiful photo applikations are left out.

A half live for the seventy D  :-[

The first Canon without full lantern extent.

pity deadly seventy D.

the beginning of the end from lantern? I hope that comes new Inspiration, for my other 70D users

Good by

and many thanks for the effort and hope for the users


Be my guest.
Welcome and feel free to do it better especially when dealing blindly with different firmware revisions on cams. I normally don't like quoting full posts but in your case you even missed pointing out what you miss and why you do so.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 24, 2016, 10:05:17 PM
      @JeffPierceMagic

   I use DSLR Controller on a Nexus7 & it works Great ~

If You wish to discuss further, EMail Me @ ~  [email protected]  ~

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Marc_Petzold on June 24, 2016, 11:10:31 PM
hi nikfreak

thats not the question what i need. it´s a question what the other users need.

in the beginnings from magic lantern was this program a mix from photo and video apps. Thats min. two Groups.

today (with a Little bit Trouble) we have a great video program. hey thats a good Job for one of the two Groups.
Hey and thats what you do, are great. But what is with the boarder based Inspiration of Magic Lantern?

whats missing fun, time, money, collaboration, now how.

Thats all stuff that can you get it. But it is quiet, dead.
There is no requirement of ressources. One hears no reason.

The minimal requirment is that what the 60d does. thats athletic but it is a gate, goal what ever you mean.
Say what you want , and you get what you need.

That is what Magic Lantern makes, much people happy.

best regards
marc
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: dmilligan on June 24, 2016, 11:20:29 PM
WTF?!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 24, 2016, 11:27:57 PM
@Marc_Petzold:
You got your premise wrong. In the beginning Trammell Hudson created ML for his 5D2 and he was a stills shooter at the time.
And a1ex is using ML on his cams mostly for photography. So am I. And others here, too. AFAIK g3gg0 isn't into video/movie either.

You got another thing wrong. There is a constant demand/lookout for other devs to take part in ML development. There has been cams cut off after no one showed up to maintain them: EOS M, 600D. And 1100D port is put on hold for about a year.

And there are technical reasons for some focus related features not working on 70D. As in 650D, 700D. Some issues may be solved, some are unlikely to be seen soon (or ever).

Your premise is invalid, your arguments are. Sorry, but you have just made a fool of yourself.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 25, 2016, 02:58:33 AM
      @ WalterS   &   @ MarcPetzoid

   Walter, Me thinks You stopped a bit short ~ I'd have added ~> But I suspect that Making a Fool of Yourself is something that You Are Quite

accustomed to, as judging by Your Attitude & Comments, Making a Fool of Yourself is something that Appears to come Quite Easily for You !

                                       ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Marc_Petzold on June 25, 2016, 01:21:57 PM
I must learn to understand, why people are personally, when the headwind comes.Did i was in my contribution personally? Contrary. I have the use praised.
Maybe in detail was my contribution not so correctly Walter and OlRivrRat , but the message are clear. Many users are waiting. Waiting for a Report, Milestone not for a end product.

What´s next step. And what the Milestones.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Frarike on June 25, 2016, 02:17:32 PM
Quote from: Marc_Petzold on June 25, 2016, 01:21:57 PM
but the message are clear.

What you write is really not clear at all. You try to hard to sound important or whatever to get your point across but lack enough English writing skills to do so. Therefore everything you say is a collection of unfinished sentences that make no real sense.

Quote from: Marc_Petzold on June 24, 2016, 11:10:31 PM

The minimal requirment is that what the 60d does. thats athletic but it is a gate, goal what ever you mean.
Say what you want , and you get what you need.


Either way are you trying to say that there hasn't been a newer version in a while? If so this may be because you have missed the updated versions as you are still using Alpha 6 according to your signature.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 25, 2016, 06:51:47 PM
Trying to understand where you are coming from @Marc_Petzold but sorry it's rather difficult to do so.

I must ask you though if you don't mind me ... which build are you running? Alpha 6?

If so, then please update to the latest Beta3c from OP of this thread (magiclantern-Nightly.2016Apr23.70D111B) and perhaps you'll get your milestones?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Marc_Petzold on June 25, 2016, 11:06:25 PM
@deadeyejedi
OK I have update my signatur, sorry thats my mistake.
@all
It doesn't rotate of milestones. That's a tool from business management and Projektmanagement.
What's missing is tranparents.

Which Applikation
With whom
By when
Status : in progress, on hold, implemented, not converted

Technical problems, and so on.
As tamplate should be the applikations from magic lantern 2.4

That's all, what can the user expect.


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: dmilligan on June 26, 2016, 05:32:26 AM
Quote from: Marc_Petzold on June 25, 2016, 11:06:25 PM
What's missing is tranparents.
This is an open source project. There is complete and utter transparency. Every single time anyone at all, does any work at all, it shows up in the commit history (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/all), with a summary of exactly what they did, and a complete list of every line of source code they changed.

For a slightly higher level view of what's being worked on, status, etc. look at the pull requests (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/) (some things in that list are old and invalid).

Quote from: Marc_Petzold on June 25, 2016, 11:06:25 PM
That's all, what can the user expect.
You should expect that absolutely nothing will ever get done, ever again. Then you can be pleasantly surprised if at some random point in the future something does.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: rsmith02 on June 26, 2016, 04:17:56 PM
Marc, I think you're confusing this with a corporate project managed from the top down with managers. clearly defined roles, timetables and the like.

This is an open-source volunteer project people do in their free time and on an ad-hoc basis.

If someone wanted to organize a team that ran the way you describe they would be free to. If the contributors wanted more structure they could adopt more structure, too. Goal and deadline based approaches have advantages, but only if the contributors want it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: theored on June 27, 2016, 08:17:27 PM
Hey guys. Great work. Having a problem in video mode when in the ML menu. Display keeps flickering between the ML menu and live view and back again. Anyone come across this problem?
I only tried installing 1.1.1A as it worked first time. Maybe worth trying 1.1.1b?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 29, 2016, 05:07:59 PM
      @Theored

         From Reply #2516 19May16

   Prior to the 23Apr Build if you were in "LiveView" or "Movie" Modes & you were Accessing the M'L' Menu the

Menu would "Go Away" after about 4Sec's of Inactivity. It appears as though a 'Fix' for this was implemented with

the 23Apr Build & now the M'L' Menu Auto ReDisplays after a Short Bit of "Overlay Stuttering".

         From Reply #2528 12Jun16

   Anytime the 70D is in either LiveView or Movie Modes the M'L'Menu attempts to "TurnOff" after roughly 4Secs

of Inactivity but the latest build of M'L' has an "AutoMenuRestart" ability.

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Marc_Petzold on June 29, 2016, 05:34:25 PM
@rsmith02
yes thats right. In a Team receives support and dynamics, that´s the Spirit.
But coordination is a ungreatful Job, but good for a Team.

marc

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 30, 2016, 06:33:26 AM
      @MarcPetzold

   "But coordination is a ungreatful Job"

I Believe that that Has Much to do with the Abilities & Attitude of the Coordinator ~

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: michelleacc on July 02, 2016, 05:23:47 PM
Hell there! I'm new in ML, I installed it yesterday.

Does anyone know why I got an error message that says: "Raw error, falling back to YUV overlays"?????

Someone else did the same question before but nobody seemed to answer it. Take a look at the error message

(https://s31.postimg.org/uek9feuiz/IMG_20160702_111442.jpg)
Besides, I installed ML by copying the files to my SD card and do the firmware update thing, some people use the EOScard, but is it really needed? I mean, do I need to use EOScard to install ML in another SD card?

Thank you
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: JohannLOG on July 05, 2016, 12:51:09 AM
I downloaded this last year but it started having some bugs so I deleted it and now I am trying it again, occasionally it would take pictures that were nearly black and white randomly. so hopefully that has been fixed.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on July 05, 2016, 06:37:57 AM
@michelleacc: don't worry, it's known message:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg166194#msg166194

Solution would be to remap quick review to use IVA_NVY memory area. That requires a1ex willing to implement it for us. For more details check the link to the source on 1st page and read though the PR discussion.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: MFMG on July 05, 2016, 07:50:02 PM
Hi guys,

Sorry to be a pest, but I am wondering if the oldest versions of 70D are now working with ML. Also, does this give a clean HDMI out and does the dual pixel focus still work  while using ML?

Thanks, I couldn't find this in a forum search.

MFMG

I was able to install the most recent version for 70D. Is there a way to get clean HDMI out and still get autofocus in Video mode?

Figured it out. "Displays/Clear Overlays/Always

I figured it would show up on the overlay screen. #newb

Please don't triple post (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=934.0).  //Audionut.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jeddo_drone on July 06, 2016, 01:38:41 PM
Hi,
I need help with this ASAP!!!
How can I get audio to headphones from a 70D with magic lantern? I only have 1 option in audio meaning when I plug in a mini USB it will disable the live viewing on the cameras lcd monitor.
Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: BluesForAllah on July 06, 2016, 06:31:06 PM
Hello, I'm new here and just installed Magic Lantern on my eos 70d. I noticed afterwards FPS override is disabled. Will it ever available on my camera? And if not, how else can I take time lapses? Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on July 06, 2016, 08:14:33 PM
No headphones on DIGIC5 cameras.

I recommend to use intervalometer with full resolution silent pictures for ~4k Timelapse.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 07, 2016, 02:50:12 AM
      @JeddoDrone

   Yup, What Nik said about HeadPhones & Digic5. But as to your >

"when I plug in a mini USB it will disable the live viewing on the cameras lcd monitor."

That Does Not Happen On Mine ~

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jeddo_drone on July 07, 2016, 03:13:31 AM
Quote from: OlRivrRat on July 07, 2016, 02:50:12 AM
      @JeddoDrone

   Yup, What Nik said about HeadPhones & Digic5. But as to your >

"when I plug in a mini USB it will disable the live viewing on the cameras lcd monitor."

That Does Not Happen On Mine ~

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Thanks so much guys!
Another question, when is a new update expected to magic lantern to give us the extra options on the audio tab? Thanks again


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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jeddo_drone on July 07, 2016, 03:20:37 AM
Also before I go to the shops to get the right cables to connect a headphone to my 70D,
When or how will I be able to get 60FPS on the 70D at 1080p FHD? I have heard people talking about this and saying that the 70D is more than capable of this. Apparently canon just disabled the capability of the 70D to do this so that people will invest in their larger c100's and stuff. So I would just like to know if there will be a ML update for this or if I can already do it. Thanks


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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jeddo_drone on July 07, 2016, 03:25:59 AM
Quote from: MFMG on July 05, 2016, 07:50:02 PM
Hi guys,

Sorry to be a pest, but I am wondering if the oldest versions of 70D are now working with ML. Also, does this give a clean HDMI out and does the dual pixel focus still work  while using ML?

Thanks, I couldn't find this in a forum search.

MFMG

I was able to install the most recent version for 70D. Is there a way to get clean HDMI out and still get autofocus in Video mode?

Figured it out. "Displays/Clear Overlays/Always

I figured it would show up on the overlay screen. #newb

Please don't triple post (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=934.0).  //Audionut.
Yes, my canon 70D was purchased in 2014 and has a low serial number. The serial number is 055*22000*** (I blocked out a few numbers because of security reasons). As long as you download the "B" version and not "A" it will work.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jeddo_drone on July 07, 2016, 09:44:50 AM
Just an update on audio out:
It can't be done with the canon 70D. It is a huge pain in the ass to get audio out to headphones. I have tried using a 2.5mm to 3.5mm converter plugged into the remote shutter port and it just took a photo when I moved it around. Then I was talking to a worker at the electronics store and said that the only way to get the audio out of the Digital AV port is to run a analog to digital converter between a mini USB to RCA and a your headphones but you need to power the converter with 5V so it would be unpractical and not so much portable. You could power if by a power bank but you need a really good power bank so the whole setup to get audio out would cost you around $200.

If anyone knows another way to do it I would appreciate that.


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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Sparbaer on July 07, 2016, 01:39:46 PM
I tried to use the Sound Module on my 70D (111B Version) but I get an error message:

tcc:error: undefined symbol "mlv_rec_get_free_slot"
tcc:error: undefined symbol "mlv_rec_queue_block"
tcc:error: undefined symbol "mlv_rec_release_slot"
....
[E] failed to link modules

Is there a way to make Audio work on ML for 70D?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 07, 2016, 03:55:35 PM
And here we go again: MLV_SND.mo depends on MLV_REC.mo
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Sparbaer on July 07, 2016, 04:00:41 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on July 07, 2016, 03:55:35 PM
And here we go again: MLV_SND.mo depends on MLV_REC.mo
Meaning? Do you have to activate MLV_REC?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on July 07, 2016, 06:43:26 PM
I suggest use sound bars, to monitor sound.  They will trigger red on spikes/hot,
the red bars are less subjective than you listening.  That is so crucial.
Unless you really concentrate, you will only hear what is said not your phones.
If you are shooting video, you have to concentrate on getting the shot.
You cant concentrate on both.  You have to play back to check focus, so check sound spikes same time again.
When recording a live show, sound engineers monitor the bars on the mixer not listen to headphones. 
The headphones are usually for com link among the crew to chat/coordinate.

Sound crews do a sound check before they record, that's whats needed much more than headphone jacks.  JMHE

Even if you do have headphone jacks, what are you going to do?  Tweaking knobs live "riding the faders" is
really an experts job.  Unless you use your sound gear to the point you can mix on the fly (which only most
experienced sound engineers can do successfully) you wont be able to fix things in real-time.  If youve done a
sound check and set your levels, you can tweak in post anyways.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: groundlessfears on July 08, 2016, 10:46:35 PM
Canon 70D ML Development is the slowest development as compared to all other cameras..
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: josepvm on July 08, 2016, 11:04:48 PM
All other ML supported cameras do not have a Dual-Pixel sensor, so yes, the 70D is different.

If you think you can do it better and faster, simply do it yourself. All the code is available to everybody. But complaining will not speed up the development.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jeddo_drone on July 09, 2016, 01:26:38 AM
Quote from: josepvm on July 08, 2016, 11:04:48 PM
All other ML supported cameras do not have a Dual-Pixel sensor, so yes, the 70D is different.

If you think you can do it better and faster, simply do it yourself. All the code is available to everybody. But complaining will not speed up the development.
How do I do This? Is it easy enough to do? I would like to have a go and and hopefully get it released to a few other 70D users. If anyone else could help to make a network of open source 70D ML developers it would me much appreciated.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: josepvm on July 09, 2016, 11:18:43 AM
There is already a network of open source ML developers, built around this forum.

The source code is here (as announced in the opening post of this thread):  https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/commits/branch/70D-merge (https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/commits/branch/70D-merge)

And the information needed to build the code and to help in development is already available in this ML forum. Start reading here: Getting started with development (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=991.0)

But no, it's not easy to develop Magic Lantern, because it's a reverse engineering project. Canon will not help you with any info about how their cams work. Everything needs to be discovered by disassembling and analysing the firmware. This needs a good knowledge of ARM assembly, and countless hours of learning and experimenting .. with no warranty at all that you will achieve ever a viable way to get the camera do something you want ... that's why you cannot anticipate the rate of development. It's ready when it's ready.

There are simple tasks in which you can help to improve and debug Magic Lantern, with minimum programming skills. And any help is very welcomed here.

But keep in mind that the whole project has been possible thanks to a small group of highly skilled ant talented developers. And they do it simply for the fun of doing it, and spending the hours they can and want to spend of their free time.

 

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jeddo_drone on July 09, 2016, 11:40:41 AM
Quote from: josepvm on July 09, 2016, 11:18:43 AM
There is already a network of open source ML developers, built around this forum.

The source code is here (as announced in the opening post of this thread):  https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/commits/branch/70D-merge (https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/commits/branch/70D-merge)

And the information needed to build the code and to help in development is already available in this ML forum. Start reading here: Getting started with development (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=991.0)

But no, it's not easy to develop Magic Lantern, because it's a reverse engineering project. Canon will not help you with any info about how their cams work. Everything needs to be discovered by disassembling and analysing the firmware. This needs a good knowledge of ARM assembly, and countless hours of learning and experimenting .. with no warranty at all that you will achieve ever a viable way to get the camera do something you want ... that's why you cannot anticipate the rate of development. It's ready when it's ready.

There are simple task in which you can help to improve and debug Magic Lantern, with minimum programming skills. And any help is very welcomed here.

But keep in mind that the whole project has been possible thanks to a small group of highly skilled ant talented developers. And they do it simply for the fun of doing it, and spending the hours they can and want to spend of their free time.


Thanks for the info. It's really confusing to see where you can do little jobs. Do you know how I can help to do a few small jobs while they do other stuff. I don't know much about development.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: josepvm on July 09, 2016, 12:08:27 PM
Follow the forum dicussions, specially in the "Developing Magic Lantern (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?action=collapse;c=3;sa=collapse;f51ca2151=92b1395144d3f69cb4064a880c734bf9#c3)" section, including the subforums located there (General Development, Modules repository, Reverse engineering) and you will see the features that are being developed or improved. The most common help needed is to test and debug these features in all cams, so you can help staying tuned and testing on your 70D eveything needed.

But first you need to learn how to build the ML source code, setting up a development machine. Doing it in Linux is usually easier (It's possible also to build ML with OSX and even Windows, but the configuration is harder). If you don't have already a  computer running Linux, you can use a VirtualBox to run a Linux virtual machine with the ARM compiler and other software needed to build ML.   
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: starbase64 on July 09, 2016, 02:57:17 PM
better slowly than nothing ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 09, 2016, 03:14:32 PM
I don't know much about building a development machine on OS X. Just followed dfort's instructions (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16012.0) and everything is running smooth on Hackintosh (PC-based OS X machine).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: dhagen on July 14, 2016, 11:43:47 PM
Need a little help, and searching general ML didn't seem to help any. I'm using a 70D with this ML firmware (which is pretty awesome by the way) to turn off all overlays and use the HDMI out for a video stream. The problem I'm having is that after a while (camera is on AC power) it "sleeps", taking the shutter down and asking me to hit "play/pause" to resume video mode. Is there a way to keep it from timing out like that other than randomly pressing the shutter halfway to keep the camera "awake"? Tried to look through all menu options and google around, but not having any luck with options. Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 15, 2016, 03:54:26 AM

Try Prefs tab -> Misc key settings -> Sticky HalfShutter ON

Documentation in https://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/features -> Prefs -> STICKY_HALFSHUTTER (link)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on July 15, 2016, 08:18:16 AM
Sticky Halfshutter was reported as "buggy" long time ago and is disabled since then. Compile from source and enable it in features.h to test if it works and then report back your findings.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: janjan on July 17, 2016, 09:42:50 AM
Hi,
thanks for all the hard work.
Any idea if the disabled focus menus, which enable focus staking, will every be fixed?

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Wille_W on July 18, 2016, 11:12:33 PM
Hello!

New user of ML. Very nice product!

I have a problem though that i saw was listed as fixed earlier. I can't get the zoom to af point to work in picture preview. Anyone that know the status on this?
Quote
chrisfrancia:
Upgraded from Alpha5b to Alpha7b(ICEMAN).

New build is fantastic!!! On the look out for bugs, will post as I test things in new posts. So far,

1. Change log items
-Audio Meters: OK
-Movie Crop: OK
-Zoom to AF Point: OK
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on July 19, 2016, 08:12:27 AM
Quote from: Wille_W on July 18, 2016, 11:12:33 PM
Anyone that know the status on this?
Working for me. You better read 1st line of 1st post and do it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: hiddenmagic on July 20, 2016, 12:41:11 AM
Dear Magic Lantern team,

First of all many thanks for the work you all did on developing magic lantern for canon 70D!

I have been following this forum topic since the start, and I have downloaded ML software several times, but I didn't install it yet.

In order to intercut and use footage from the 70D APS-C sensor with compressed but sharp/clear (100mbit/s, 8-bit)UHD footage from a small sensor mirrorless camera, I have to use  ML RAW video in the largest format possible.  As I sadly have read, continuous 1080p 16:9 RAW is not possible on 70D hardware.

There are many alpha/beta versions of magic lantern.
If I want fps override enabled, which one is the most stable, and can I still download it?
Then, if that would be possible, can I set footage at 20fps 1080p 16:9 continuous or even 12 fps and speed up  2,5k footage in post to 24p, or make 24interleaved video in post from 12fps progressive?

Do you have other suggestions ? As I understand, bitrate modifications aren't possible neither clean 422 1080p hdmi, in any version of alpha or beta software?

Many thanks, in any case!!.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 21, 2016, 02:28:24 PM
      @ HiddenMagic

   To get Limited FPS Override You will need the > 8th August: Alpha-7a2 < Build ~ It is No Longer supported by the

M'L' Wizards & so not available here for DownLoad but I keep it in My archives & can send You a Copy if You EM Me Direct @

[email protected]

   Let Me know which Version You need.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jeddo_drone on July 23, 2016, 01:35:33 AM
Hi magic lantern team. I finally got my 80mb/s 64gb Sandisk SDXC cards delivered yesterday. I mounted magic lantern in the cards and it is working fine until I stop recording (not in raw) and the camera shuts itself off. I then, after waiting for it to turn back on itself for 3mins, turned it off by the switch. Then the Red LED light just stays on for about 2 mins then the light turns off. I checked the card and found multiple crash logs after this happens over 3 times over a span of 3 recordings. Would you like me to post the crash logs on this forum? I really need help ASAP. If I can't get this fixed I will need to dismount magic lantern until the firmware gets updated. Thanks in advanced.


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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on July 23, 2016, 09:24:57 AM
Post exact instructions (step by step) to reproduce it. Also list your settings / modules activated
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jeddo_drone on July 23, 2016, 01:18:28 PM
Thanks. Lets star with the activated modules:
- adv_int
- autoexpo
- bench
- deflick
- dot_tune
- ettr
- file_man
- lua
- mlv_play
- mlv_rec
- mlv_snd
- pic_view
- raw_rec
- silent

Movie tab settings:
- REC indicator: remaining time
- REC key: half shutter
- Gradual Exposure: on
- HDR video: off
- image fine tuning: default
- movie tweaks: default
- RAW video (MLV): off
- RAW video: off
- delayed start: default

Steps to crash:
- press record
- move around a little to make a basic shot
- stop recording (crash may happen)
- press play (crash may happen)

Update: the crash is happening far less often now but I have another problem with RAW video.

Settings:
- RAW video (mlv): on, 1824x1026, 1.62x, 16:9
- RAW video: 1824x1026, 16:9, card warm up 64MB

Steps:
- I press record and it says preparing then starts recording.
- then it says Frame skipped, record stopping.
It then stops record and when I go to review the video it is really choppy and pixelated.

I have tried both raw and raw mlv but neither works.




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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: dmilligan on July 23, 2016, 01:28:51 PM
Disable lua.mo. It uses lots of memory and is the likely source of the crash.

Your raw video "problem" is not a problem, but expected behavior. In camera preview has to use the slow CPU to do rendering, therefore it is slow and low resolution. Copy the files to a computer, convert them and play them back, they will be fine.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on July 23, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
Too much modules activated at once.
I think it could be the LUA or mlv_snd module causing your issue but that's just a guess.

I would welcome it if you find some time and disable all modules. Afterwards enable them one by one but try to have always only one activated and reproduce the error please.
Should be the best way we can find the module which causes your error.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 23, 2016, 04:56:59 PM
   Just for Ref' ~ I Usually run these Modules with No Issue ~

- adv_int
- autoexpo
- bench
- deflick
- dot_tune
- dual_iso
- ettr
- file_man
- mlv_play
- mlv_rec
- mlv_snd
- pic_view
- silent

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on July 23, 2016, 05:14:11 PM
Hidden, there's a lot more to consider then just raw & 16:9
For instance 70D can shoot raw, but overheat is a big issue, so ISO 800 is about the max to prevent Hot Pixels.
Most will have better low light with H264 which shoots nice at ISO 1600/3200.   Ofcourse flat pic style will extend your DR.
You can shoot raw continuous at 1600 @ 2:39 @ 24 fps.  I would suggest ISO 400 max, because it not only controls Hot Pixels
but minimizes low light shadow banding. 
All-I compression does a very good job of limiting shadow banding, so higher bitrate wont improve on that.
Really if you need 16:9 then H264 flat pic, with ALL-I is very versatile and gets you best overall picture.

422 is possible only through HDMI out recording.  Canon limits res. to 1600x800, so you have to crop in post.
However why crop 422 H264, when you can get 14bits depth and shot raw at about the same resolution (no crop needed). Either needs a rescale.  I can appreciate the 422 HDMI out, if you want to live stream at 720p.  Good for blogging.
720p @ 24fps shoots @ 16:9 is continuous raw, thats your best 16:9 mode for 14bit raw.

Now shooting raw 1080p / 16:9, @ some low fps, means you have to frame interpolate.  Ive seen a few folks do this for
proof of concept brief clips. But no one recommends this, and it means your rendering raw & using a third party app to interpolate (which varies based on the app).  A rather lengthy workflow, if time is money and you want 1080p raw just buy a 5DmkIII and have a life.  If you really need 16:9 14 bit raw, its still the cheapest way to go.    Still you lose the DPAF & touchscreen AF, which is why most people want to shoot video with a 70D in the first place. 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Starmaker5280 on July 23, 2016, 09:03:25 PM
Since I am new to the forum on here... Am I just not seeing the download for the 70D?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jhon_wane on July 23, 2016, 10:05:23 PM
Hello,
I'm trying hard to get DUAL ISO to work, without much success. 
I'm using AETTR+DUAL ISO (usually 100-1600) to get the maximum data from the exposure.

When i take a picture of blue sky,clouds and trees/grass the exposure for the sky is perfect but everything else is pitch black in the dual iso CR2 file. When i drag the file into CR2HDR (latest version, from last build,dec 2015) the DNG file is exactly the same - no data in the blacks, and I need to drag the exposure a lot to the right in order to see some data. This adds a lot of noise.
I am using LR6 or ACR 9.1 - the results are the same. not good.
Maybe i dont know how to use this function, but i thought that after the DNG conversion the blacks/shadows will pop out automatically.
They do not pop out at all.

Any help will be welcomed, I'm very frustrated... :'(
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jeddo_drone on July 23, 2016, 11:40:48 PM
Thanks guys. This is much appreciated. I'll do s little more testing later on and see if it is completely gone. Also, what is this FPS override? I feel like I'm missing out on something. 


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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 25, 2016, 08:11:58 PM
                     @ StarMaker5280

           1stPost under "Installation Instructions:" > Big Bold Black letters > " Download latest release for 70D.111A / 70D.111B "
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: mlungu on July 31, 2016, 12:48:12 PM
Hi new here, so don't shoot me if this has been asked before. I have looked

Is headphone  and audio monitoring possible with magic lantern on the 70D and if so how? Would be a big plus for my own work if I can find out how to do this.   Again not trying to spam, just can't seem to find the relevant info?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on August 02, 2016, 06:47:02 PM
         @ MLungu

   Simply Use the Search window above ~ Plug in " headphone " & You will get More than a Couple Dozen Hits,

Plug in " audio " & get More than a Couple Dozen Hits as well.

   Simple answer is ~ No Headphones on Digic5 EOSs.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: tbrinegar on August 03, 2016, 12:29:40 AM
Hey friends, I've used Magic Lantern successfully on my 70D for almost a year. Recently, the camera froze and stopped working, presenting Error 70 and Error 80 messages. After a few hours at rest it would fire up again. Finally, it has stopped turning on. I fear I'm bricked.

I've used a variety of batteries and SD cards. I've let it set for several days. I've uninstalled and reinstalled ML on my SD card.

I'm not a coder. Any advice for next steps? Can Canon reset it if I send it in?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jeddo_drone on August 03, 2016, 09:17:47 AM
HI guys, is it possible to get 1080p @60fps? I am sure that the canon 70D is more than capable of this. There may be a add on feature or a future update, I don't know?


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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 03, 2016, 09:23:22 AM
Top of page -> User Guide -> FAQ -> Troll Questions section
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jeddo_drone on August 03, 2016, 10:19:15 AM
So you can't? Any one think it may be in final version of 70d ml? I am sure that the 70D can do much more frames.


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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: rsmith02 on August 03, 2016, 03:20:55 PM
How did you arrive at the conclusion that this would be possible on a 70D?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 03, 2016, 03:24:32 PM
Please don't feed the trolls.
Title: Custom FPS
Post by: dmwizzard on August 04, 2016, 01:46:56 AM
Hi,

Can someone expand on why 'FPS override' was disabled for the 70D - It was a much used feature on my 550D.

Also, does anyone know if anyone is trying to get it to work again?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on August 04, 2016, 03:08:00 AM
      @WalterS

   Oh come on now Walter, just ChillOut a Bit ~ When someone says " I'm sure of This or That " It's always Fun

to listen to them try to explain what caused them to become So Sure.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jeddo_drone on August 07, 2016, 10:49:03 AM
HI guys, sorry for trolling the other day. I honestly did not know what trolling was and that there were troll questions in a list.
Anyway, enough about that and my apologies.

Now I think I have worked out how to monitor audio from 70D. It's all about using the right type of 3.5mm plugs. I was using a boom pole today and plugged my headphones directly into the 3.5mm socket/plug extension and turned on my mic. I could hear a clean audio directly from the mic through my headphones. I am going to test this tomorrow, but I think if I buy the right type of splitter (3 section plug) I can plug it into the camera then run headphones and mic in off of the splitter. Anyone think that this will work? (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160807/86afbffb76f4d4ac5e8350a0775a0994.jpg)


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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jeddo_drone on August 08, 2016, 09:24:49 AM
HI guys. I just tested it and it works!!! I can now get live audio viewing.


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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jeddo_drone on August 08, 2016, 12:42:27 PM
Hi guys. I noticed that it's not audio out from the camera buts it's directly from the mic. So I needed to turn my headphones volume up to hear it better. It's not going to be useful for setting audio on the camera but perfect for making sure that the mic is in the right place (especially with a shotgun mic). I have connected the mic on boom pole to a stereo splitter and then to the camera. I then hooked a headphones transmitter up to the second socket of the splitter (my headphone transmitter runs off of batteries). Now the camera operator (me) can supervise boom operator if needed, but the boom operator can throw on my second set of wireless headphones and we can both be monitoring the audio and where the boom operator places the mic. It's working great.


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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Gimmename on August 10, 2016, 07:51:32 PM
Hello, guys!

Can please enlighten me about raw recording with 70D. I have pretty fast card (Transcend Class 10) 40 Mb/s and benchmark shows ~32MB/s write and ~40MB/s read and I still get skipped frames after 9-10 seconds of recording.

Here's benchmark results:

(http://i.imgur.com/UUQecXT.jpg)

In ML menu I see what I need 56.6 MB/s to record 1824x776, so it's pretty much imposibble with 30MB/s? But as far as I know 70D can't give you more than 40MB/s anyway. Even with faster card. So... It's impossible to record RAW in that resolution?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Canniballissimo on August 25, 2016, 09:58:07 PM
Gimmename, probably your 40 mb/s it's a fake. Do you tested this card on PC? I have Transcend class 10 x600 1 card and it writes at 38 mb/s
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: aedipuss on August 28, 2016, 12:26:57 AM
recording raw on any canon with just a uhs1 sdcard interface is not worth it.  not enough bandwidth to get a decent framesize.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jmfoots on August 29, 2016, 04:29:29 PM
EDIT: Evidently the current release (as of 30-Aug-2016) does indeed do restart for H.264! I am leaving this post here to make it clear for other folks who come a-digging but don't get an answer.

===

Dear homies,

Please forgive me making a post for this. I've been digging around on this thread and everywhere else, and it seems like movie restart for the usual H.264 (or whatever the 70D records natively to) is not working at present despite the fix in mid-Nov of 2015. (I also don't know how to get a firmware file from the code branches, because I'm kind of not accustomed with coding management stuff like bitbucket/github)

All I want to do is hook up the AC adapter, start recording, and have a 1080/30 output (H264, raw, don't care, just something that doesn't require really tricky steps to mess with). Don't care about seamless recording - but movie restart is critical for what I do. I believe it is a B camera.

It appears someone pulled out an Oct28 (2015) nightly at one point that fixed it ( download link was https://www.dropbox.com/s/pv4a5r85j5dsd4o/magiclantern-Nightly.2015Oct28.70D111B.zip ) - but this file is no longer available on his dropbox.

If all I want is movie restart here with the 70D I have, what is my best route? The current download on the OP here does not seem to do it, but it sounds like people have gotten it done.

Many thanks to all you folk.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: granan13 on August 30, 2016, 10:42:40 PM
Hi,

I have encountered an issue with my 70D and ML. I was using it and it suddenly showed an error 80, turned off and since this moment I have not been able to power it on again.

I've got a log on the SD card :
ASSERT: FALSE
at ./ImagePlayer/ImagePlayer.c:2087, task CtrlSrv
lv:0 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2016Apr23.70D111A
Mercurial changeset   : 591ba5bf7c75 (70D-merge) tip
Built on 2016-04-23 19:23:06 UTC by ml@ml-VirtualBox.
Free Memory  : 225K + 1937K


I think it's important to precise that there was some files on the SD card that were not readable by the camera, such as two .prproj, at the time of the bug.

I've tried of course to remove the battery, the SD, wait for 24h... nothing seems to work, the led isn't even getting on when  i put a charged battery in the camera.

I come here to have a few advices before resigning myself to send it back to canon, even if the warranty time is over.

I will take any informations, thanks :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: a1ex on August 31, 2016, 09:28:52 AM
Do you get this log every time you power off the camera, or you got it only once?

Can you run the display test (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14732.0)?

Just in case, make sure you have an old copy of your ROM safe on your PC (if you don't, copy it from your card, from ML/LOGS). No need to send it to me now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: granan13 on August 31, 2016, 05:56:11 PM
Thanks for your answer.
I had it only once, since switching between on and off mode hasn't any effect.

The SD card was formated since it happened. To run the display test I just have to put the auto ex.bin on the sd  card and insert it in the camera right ? I'm afraid it won't do anything since the camera led doesn't react anymore when I insert an SD card.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: a1ex on August 31, 2016, 06:30:21 PM
You need to make the card bootable.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: joaberco on September 01, 2016, 09:14:06 PM
Hi guys.

Firstly, thanks for your work in ML.

I'm writting because i have the problem "Raw error, falling back to YUV overlays".

I did what a1ex explained: "Load raw_diag (first post), enable "Dump RAW Buffer" and "Optical Black Zones", disable all other analysis options", but a new message came: Set "image review" to "hold" from Canon menu.

What I have to do to use dual iso?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 3rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on September 03, 2016, 02:05:51 PM
first post updated
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 3rd Sep)
Post by: mfenske on September 03, 2016, 06:48:22 PM
So am I to understand that there's a new release of the software effective 9/3? I installed the 111A on my new(refurb) 70D and get some strange stuff happening-hoping that would fix it?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 3rd Sep)
Post by: OlRivrRat on September 04, 2016, 07:15:11 AM
      @NikFreak

   Just installed Nightly.2016Sep03.70D111B & turned Cam' On, let it go through its short StartUp Routine,

Shut it down, Restarted > While in Stills Mode I looked through MLMenu Modules to see if there were any

changes, Closed MLMenu, Switched to LiveView, Switched Movie, Switched from "P" to Manual & the Cam

LockedUp & Showed this on Screen

                              Can't Add Attachments !!

   Here are the Resulting Logs

                               Can't Add Attachments !!

   Turned Cam Off & It Will Not Restart ~

                  How do I go about Adding Attachments ??
                                                 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 3rd Sep)
Post by: nikfreak on September 04, 2016, 08:20:44 AM
Just upload to tinypic.com and share the link.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 3rd Sep)
Post by: OlRivrRat on September 04, 2016, 08:31:12 AM
TinyPic won't take .log files
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 3rd Sep)
Post by: OlRivrRat on September 04, 2016, 08:46:02 AM
                     @NikFreak

           Try this

https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipO1N5YM8q0e-e6tGmjxuZNYz1hgvcMlBMEwMoht
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 3rd Sep)
Post by: nikfreak on September 04, 2016, 08:47:47 AM
doesn't work for me (error 404). You could use pastebin.com for inserting the contents of the log.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on September 04, 2016, 09:22:37 AM
reverted the last update. better downgrade asap to beta-3c for the time being.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Cadkey on September 04, 2016, 01:18:07 PM
Hello,
Today, I can not access the link to download .
I have version 4a but I erased the 3c , I can not go back to the previous version.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Bojo on September 04, 2016, 05:13:52 PM
Hi guys,

I have the following two bugs to report, maybe they'll help / someone could help me :D

I just installed ML and turned all the modules on. Went into video mode and after seeing video recording is fine, I tried taking a picture in video mode. I pressed the playback button at which point 'Err' appeared on the LCD panel on top of the camera. I couldn't switch it off and the SD card LED light was shining in a constant red. I had to take the battery off. Some scripts started loading when I switched it back on. From then on whenever I pressed the playback button to view my pictures and videos the same happened. I took the battery off and formatted the card in order to uninstall ML and install it again. I copied all the files before that though, there were 3 Chash text files. Is this a common issue that I can fix somehow, if not, I'll send whatever files are needed. A month ago the same thing happened when I installed ML. I'd be grateful if you could tell me a way to fix it as one can easily forget not to press the shutter button in video mode, and everything crashes. Thank you, and sorry if this has already been reported.

Second bug is that when I'm in video mode and press the trash button to go to the ML menu, sometimes the camera starts refocusing and the screen blinks for fractions of a second. Nothing too serious I think, but still thought I'd report it :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on September 04, 2016, 07:17:04 PM
yep, now download link has been fixed.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on September 04, 2016, 08:07:59 PM
                     @All

   My 70D Appears to be Quite Dead ~ Have gone through all the Typical Cam' Reviving scenarios & some NonTypical 1s ~ It's Dead ~

There is Probably No Way of Knowing if M'L' had anything to do with it's demise so for those who are easily panicked I say, Just take a Deep

Breath & Proceed with a Watchful Eye the way that your Cam is performing (as, of course, you should always do anyway)

   Here's some recent Background ~ This is from a communication I had with Alex a couple of weeks ago ~

      " My 70D has, for all intents & purposes, lost its ability to capture Video ~

   I really have no idea what happened. Over the past couple of weeks I have Vid'd a couple of hours of a Jazz Concert,

(about 95GB) & about 2.5Hrs of interviews (about 17GB) without issue, as has been the history of this Cam for the past

2.5Yrs. Then while setting up for another interview on 11Aug it "LockedUp" in Vid'Mode very soon after the Vid' Start &

after Batt' Remove/Replace showed no signs of life, so I put it away & did the interview with My 5DM2. Afterwards I put

a Batt' in the 70D again & it LitUp & acted fine. On 12Aug I TimeLapsed the Perseids for about 5Hrs (355 30Sec Xposrs)

without issue. Then on 14Aug @ another interview it worked fine for about 20Min's & then went into LockUp again. This

time it would restart after Batt' R&R but would then Lock again after varying lengths of shooting. It will still do Stills in

both EVF & LiveView & will Rec Video but the length of time that it will Rec in Vid' is anywhere from a FewMin's to 26Mins

& the Vid is usually lost as the necessary End Of File doesn't get written. It is also getting warm to the touch during Vid's

which it has never done before, even when Vid'ing for 1.75Hrs NonStop. Our local Expert Cam'Repair says that it will need

a new main board. I did get some CrashLogs from it & if You would like to see if You can glean anything from them I can

send them to You. Thanks for Your interest. "

   Alex did not reply so the CrashLogs were not sent. The 70D got Semi-Retired & was replaced with an 80D > Love It

But Miss not having all the M'L' Goodys.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on September 04, 2016, 08:47:31 PM
Got your PM and I am verysad to hear your cam got problems. I initially thought it was related to yesterday's update which I released but now reading your story it looks like that yesterday's update is not to be blamed for it. Looks rather like the mysterious "lock up in video mode" you encountered has something to do with it. Til now I reverted yesterday's update.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on September 04, 2016, 10:36:58 PM
                         @ NikFreak

   Sorry I didn't fill You in on the Background Info last night. In light of the Fresh Update yesterday

I was trying to get info to You as Quickly as possible Just In Case there was a Connection. When I tried

to send additional info I got Stymied by the Silly "Only 5 Personal PMs Per Hour" Rule. It was Late, So I

went to bed.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Cadkey on September 06, 2016, 10:57:41 AM
Hello,
Does the Beta-4a is abandoned?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: mfenske on September 07, 2016, 04:06:52 PM
I really want ML to work on my 70D. The issue(s) I'm having are as follows:

-When in the menus it briefly flashes in to a different looking menu (sort of a teal colored one) having hit no buttons
-Trying to get focus peaking working I mess with the Digic Peaking menu and any setting other than the default causes the entire display to go greyish and have messed up white text
-Overlays don't seem to overlay
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: paci on September 08, 2016, 09:34:08 PM
Hi, as active bulb / ramping focus on this. In version 2.3 was easy.

Hola, como se activa bulb/focus ramping en esta. En la version 2.3 era facil.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: jbasch on September 12, 2016, 02:50:51 AM
Any projections when this might come out of Beta and be considered prod?  Sorry new to this and just want to make sure its ready before I attempt a first install on my 70D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on September 12, 2016, 07:02:42 AM
Top of page -> User Guide -> FAQ -> Troll Questions section
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: liquidribs on September 16, 2016, 03:42:18 PM
Good Evening everyone,

Well wishes from Singapore. I wish any kind soul can help me here with my issue..

I recently installed Magic Lantern on my 70D and it all worked OK. However the problem came when uninstalling.
I did not read the instructions to uninstall and did the most stupid thing possible, which was to format my ML card with the computer.

What happened next was very strange. It seemed to not detect magic lantern and worked fine for a few days until I decided to switch lenses in which suddenly I encountered  "update file cannot be found. Please check the memory card and reload the battery and try again.". This screen immediately shows up as soon as I used any SD card that did not have Magic Lantern inside, or if I turned on the camera without an SD card.

I immediately switched to my second SD card still with Magic Lantern and was able to operate the camera. However, when i clicked on "firmware update" to re-install magic lantern so as to properly uninstall, I encounter "MAIN_FIRMWARE flag is DISABLED! Please Contact ML developers for a fix."

Currently, I have done the following:



Currently, I have only 1 SD card working on my 70D and I cannot switch cards without encountering "update file cannot be found". May I have any insights on how I can unbrick my camera without going down to the service center? Thank you guys in advance any help greatly*1million appreciated.

please see my Flickr link for the photo errors

https://flic.kr/p/MdXqWs (https://flic.kr/p/MdXqWs)
https://flic.kr/p/LQmisf (https://flic.kr/p/LQmisf)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Cadkey on September 19, 2016, 10:23:12 PM
Reinstall Canon firmware.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Yul on September 20, 2016, 01:28:04 AM
Good morning everyone, my name is Alexander, I'm new to the forum, I apologize for my English incorrect, I write from Italy!
I bought a few months ago a Canon 70D, I found vertical banding problems, I read very positive things about ML and I think that could help me also useful to help with the banding problem, am I wrong?
I read here that the 70D is still a beta version that has some problems to be solved, say that you will succeed in the short to have a more stable version of ML for the 70D or have long periods!
Thank you for the work you are doing!  :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on September 20, 2016, 05:19:23 PM
wow missed afew posts in this topic. Guess due to topic / posting moderation.

@liquidribs: As far as I understand you got one sd card working. You need to compile ML on your own and do this:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16040.msg170684#msg170684

lemme know if you need further assistance.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on September 20, 2016, 05:54:08 PM
Quote from: Cadkey on September 19, 2016, 10:23:12 PM
Reinstall Canon firmware.

Would you mind to tell us how?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: xzphoto on September 21, 2016, 09:28:37 PM
Banding problems often indicate a failing shutter assembly.  What's the shutter count on your 70D?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on September 22, 2016, 04:28:46 AM
Here is an article which discusses banding
http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/41874/what-causes-banding-noise
They suggest you should check multiple monitors, as to ensure its not your monitor.

High ISO can produce noise, which tends to be blocky and ugly. 
I have noticed banding with low light video shadows in raw, and that was random noise.
If you have dual ISO set, you should see horizontal banding. It needs to be processed by compatible app.
I have also seen very strange banding/noise  with video in 3X video, check out different displays.
If you change video fps you can also get a mess of noise. 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: xzphoto on September 23, 2016, 07:10:38 PM
That's great info on banding for me as well. Thanks. If I saw it on my 70D I probably would've shipped it off to Canon. Now there would be a pause to look around at other possibilities.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on September 29, 2016, 03:48:59 PM
Wow. I never had thought this would happen:

http://www.canon.de/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos_70d.aspx?type=firmware

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: lojzik on September 29, 2016, 03:53:35 PM
is it good new for ML development? I suppose, it's not compatible with current ML?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on September 29, 2016, 03:57:54 PM
Good for ML indeed. I don't recommend to install it for now until I announce support for it. You won't be able to downgrade at the moment.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on September 29, 2016, 05:48:58 PM
Great find @nikfreak and indeed I didn't think this would happen this soon either if ever!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Frarike on September 29, 2016, 11:34:47 PM
Got excited that this could possibly fix my camera but then I remembered I cant open the menu to install the update anyway. :/
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Cadkey on September 30, 2016, 08:50:02 AM
@Frarike
You can with EOS utility
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Cadkey on September 30, 2016, 08:54:41 AM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on September 20, 2016, 05:54:08 PM
Would you mind to tell us how?


Now it's official, with the update 70D00112 mate ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on September 30, 2016, 01:19:49 PM
Quote from: Cadkey on September 30, 2016, 08:50:02 AM
@Frarike
You can with EOS utility

This indeed should work. I already started to update the 100D port. Once that's finished I'll do it for 70D. If any of you has already installed 1.1.2 onto his 70D then drop me a PM.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on September 30, 2016, 05:27:58 PM
For those who dont speak german
http://support-au.canon.com.au/contents/AU/EN/0400270102.html

I wonder if once installed if we get a unified ML build ???

Update fixes: It shoots 4k 120fps raw video with added 20 stop DR for 1 frame
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on September 30, 2016, 05:52:11 PM
                 For those who dont speak German & Use a Mac

http://support-au.canon.com.au/contents/AU/EN/0400270202.html

   From Here ~

http://search-au.canon.com.au/canon__au_en__au_en/search.x?ct=Support&hf=category%09zubaken&cf=model_sm:EOS+70D&d=DOWNLOADS
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: captainlawrence on October 03, 2016, 09:23:13 AM
Hi, I have recently updated the firmware of my 70D to 1.1.2 . Anyway, before the update, the camera info showed me only 1.1.1 without specifying A or B. Is there a different way to understand that? Canon software on El Capitan did not work. The same on Sierra. On Windows 10 it works, I assume that Canon is updating mostly for PC.
Now, the question. Is there a ML Beta release which I can use on my 70D with 1.1.2 update?
Thanks a lot,
Alfredo 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: starbase64 on October 03, 2016, 10:04:58 AM
@captainlawrence

please read three posts back...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Daniel on October 03, 2016, 11:08:01 PM
My 70D is overheating.  I noticed someone mention on here about overheating.  Is the cause ML?  If so, are there settings that will keep the 70D from overheating?  i did search and didn't find anything.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 03, 2016, 11:14:12 PM
To prevent 70D from overheating just remove battery. Permanently, of course.

Or tell us how to reproduce your findings. Hard data, please.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Daniel on October 03, 2016, 11:58:58 PM
shooting 29.97fps, 1920x1080, shutter 1/62.50, iso 100.  lcd brightness set to 4.
canon support suggested turning down, but level 3 is pretty dark.

i recorded one clip for 12:30 and then another, but the camera froze at 13:30.

the battery area got super hot and camera lcd was black with the red led flashing.
turned off camera and removed battery.  permanently?  you mean for a minute?

was using as a b-camera so was not watching the lcd when it froze.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: a1ex on October 04, 2016, 12:16:06 AM
FYI, the LCD is unlikely to cause overheating. (source) (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=17920.msg172390#msg172390)

When the camera freezes, it depends on what hardware modules remain active at the moment of crash. Just the CPU running in a tight loop is unlikely to cause overheating by itself, but if the LiveView interrupts are still running, and probably most other processing modules remain active, all that adds up. So yes, a crash may (or may not) cause overheating.

Either way, it looks like you should find a way to reproduce the crash.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Marsu42 on October 04, 2016, 11:59:40 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on October 04, 2016, 12:16:06 AM
What's not working
* Only fast zebras work (no raw zebras)
* Trap focus only works in photo mode (not Liveview). All other focus features are disabled (follow, rack, ...)
* Dualiso only works in photo mode (Looks like we are stuck in movie mode atm like 50D / 7D)

@all current 70d users and devs active on 70d:

I'm thinking about getting a used 70d as a replacement for my 60d that just broke (well, 330k shutter cycles...) as I don't see ML on 80d anytime soon. I don't fully understand ML's status on the 70d and the prospect of the features, this not getting merged doesn't feel good :-\ ...

1. raw histogram - I take it at least this works on 70d even though raw zebras don't?

2. rack focus for focus stacking - is this completely broken on 70d or is there still hope (lens.c: "focus stacking is still buggy and takes 1 behind and 1 before all others afterwards are before at the same position no matter what's set in menu")?

3. dual_iso - is this working 100% in photo mode, or are there any unexpected problems to be expected?

I did some ML development on 60d and 6d, but with the latter I was frustrated by things that simply won't work "ever" like focus patterns - that's why I'm asking if there's active development on 70d other than adapting the stubs for a new fw version.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: a1ex on October 04, 2016, 01:03:22 PM
1. no, but I have an idea how to fix. It will require changing the memory map of Canon code (so, a bit invasive), but we had some trouble with cache hacks (required for this change) on 70D (here (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/734/cleaner-method-for-hiding-canons-bottom/diff)) that I'm not sure how to start troubleshooting.

2. it will probably require some low-level reverse engineering (along (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=17596) these (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=4997) lines)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on October 04, 2016, 02:09:48 PM
Hey, Marsu42. I already started upgrading 70D to 1.1.2 so count this job almost done.

70D needs some unique trading and I admit that (if you got time) helping hands would be useful. Handling different revisions of a firmware number (1.1.1) didn't make it easy in terms of bug reporting and "valueing" user reports.

FPS override, dualiso in video mode and "raw zebras when quickreviewing after a shot" are broken atm. Being first cam with dualpixel AF didn't make it easy on 70D. As stated in 1st post most focus features don't work atm.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: aedipuss on October 04, 2016, 05:01:48 PM
i don't use either of those lenses so updating my 70d with the new firmware is not going to change anything.  i won't update the firmware unless a new ml update requires it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on October 04, 2016, 05:21:23 PM
we are not far away from that state  :P
There will indeed be no way back to 1.1.1 and support for the different revisions of the 1.1.1 will be stopped. Future updates will only be available for 1.1.2. the developers / maintainer will take a deep breath and be happy for getting rid of revision handling.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Marsu42 on October 04, 2016, 11:46:42 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on October 04, 2016, 02:09:48 PM
70D needs some unique trading and I admit that (if you got time) helping hands would be useful. Handling different revisions of a firmware number (1.1.1) didn't make it easy in terms of bug reporting and "valueing" user reports.

FPS override, dualiso in video mode and "raw zebras when quickreviewing after a shot" are broken atm. Being first cam with dualpixel AF didn't make it easy on 70D. As stated in 1st post most focus features don't work atm.

Thanks alex & nikfreak ... reading "cache hacks" and "low level re" doesn't make me feel like the solution is right around the corner, esp. if newer and more promising digic6 bodies will get more attention in the future. Afaik, these hacks were considered dodgy at best in the past, and if mpu reverse engineering would be realistic before hell freezes over alex would have accessed that $!#%& viewfinder and phase af system by now :-p

I don't currently have a 70d, and if it's missing 2/3 of the vital features I want to use I guess I'll either go straight to a 80d (that isn't much more expensive, go figure) or stick with a 100% supported camera like 60d or 6d :-o. Using these, it's easy to forget that ML isn't supported by Canon and it's a sheer miracle all these features used to be working...



Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on October 05, 2016, 05:48:07 PM
Mars
I would say that dual iso working for still pic, means it is around the corner for video.
There is a variable fps release, which works a bit, so it could be around the corner.
Just these two would greatly improve the 70D, which is revolutionary mainly because of its video features.

But presently 70D ML does have
- focus peaks, zebras, rgb H264 histo with warnings (which being jpeg is ok because the 70D is too under-gunned for serious raw video use but fine for All-I compressed H264 video).
All which 80D does not have for video

- combine with flat pic style to improve DR, upto ISO 1600 without significant noise, DPAF for action video, touchscreen focus for pulls, and tilt swivel screen for hard to get angles

I think the combo of above features still makes the 70D the most useful H264 video oriented DSLR. And around the corner it may become even better.

If all youre concerned about is still shooting, then I would agree with you that there are better DSLRs with ML release out there. The 7D
has similar focus system as the 70D, and it has the key ML still shooter features you want.



Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 05, 2016, 07:52:29 PM
Quote from: ShootMeAlready on October 05, 2016, 05:48:07 PM
I would say that dual iso working for still pic, means it is around the corner for video.

Wow! Dual-ISO movie around the corner for 5D2, 50D and 7D, too?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on October 06, 2016, 07:38:52 AM
Here we go for the first test release based upon firmware version 1.1.2 (will not work with 1.1.1):

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B9Mu66yg5QzRd19Udk1pMF9ZNzg

Thanks @DeafEyeJedi for a lot of private testing.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Cadkey on October 06, 2016, 12:22:01 PM
Many thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: martijnsx on October 06, 2016, 05:55:35 PM
Hi Nik,

Thanks for the test release! Did you only change the firmware number check in ML or did you have to make other adjustments because the new firmware works different in some places?

I ask because i want to know if i can safely use it on my camera. Out of excitement i installed the new canon firmware hoping it would give some new functions. Unfortunately it does nothing in that respect.

Does the firmware file/update from canon mean that ML development will be easier? Or does it make no difference?

Best regards,
Martijn
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 06, 2016, 06:20:04 PM
Quote from: martijnsx on October 06, 2016, 05:55:35 PM
Did you only change the firmware number check in ML or did you have to make other adjustments because the new firmware works different in some places?

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12627.msg156850#msg156850

Quote from: martijnsx on October 06, 2016, 05:55:35 PM
Does the firmware file/update from canon mean that ML development will be easier? Or does it make no difference?
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16040.msg172653#msg172653
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: treecreeper on October 11, 2016, 08:59:43 PM
Hi All

I have been using the Beta for quite a few months and have not experienced any issues. One thing I am keen to try is the focus stacking option.

What is the status of that feature? Is there a way for me to test or try it out?

Thanks for your great work

Regards
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Marsu42 on October 16, 2016, 12:11:09 AM
Quote from: ShootMeAlready on October 05, 2016, 05:48:07 PM
If all youre concerned about is still shooting, then I would agree with you that there are better DSLRs with ML release out there. The 7D has similar focus system as the 70D, and it has the key ML still shooter features you want.

Thanks for the assessment, I indeed now settled for a min-condition used 7d1 for less than half the price of a cashback 80d and strangely still way below for what a used 70d sells. True, a new camera has got warranty, but it's no good if you reach the shutter's spec'ed eol in no time with these frame rates :-\

The 7d1 has full ml, a sturdier shutter and build quality, and crucial af features that Canon, being Canon, has cut from the 70d and 80d: af point expansion and spot af. Esp. b/c the 70d sensor iq is basically what the 7d1 is, I really don't see the 70d as a still shooter's choice.

Quote from: treecreeper on October 11, 2016, 08:59:43 PM
I have been using the Beta for quite a few months and have not experienced any issues. One thing I am keen to try is the focus stacking option. What is the status of that feature? Is there a way for me to test or try it out?

If you'd venture a few posts below, you'd read that all the focus stuff isn't working atm. Or see https://builds.magiclantern.fm/features.html
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 16, 2016, 01:29:15 AM
Quote from: Marsu42 on October 16, 2016, 12:11:09 AM
If you'd venture a few posts below, you'd read that all the focus stuff isn't working atm. Or see https://builds.magiclantern.fm/features.html

+1
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: notasss on October 16, 2016, 02:35:57 PM
I updated my canon 70D firmware to version 1.1.2 and now will not let me install any version of magic latern neither A nor B, as can downgrade the firmware1.1.2? or is there some patch to install on this version?

Help me!! :)

Thank you so much
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Cadkey on October 16, 2016, 04:48:22 PM
Here http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg172994#msg172994
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: AndreRodrigues on October 16, 2016, 04:49:02 PM
Quick question:

Should I change my bitrate settings on 70D? The gain is good enought? I use this card: http://www.submarino.com.br/produto/12708267/cartao-sandisk-extreme-sdhc-32gb-de-90mb-s-uhs-i-u3-classe-10-para-4k?opn=XMLGOOGLE&WT.srch=1&loja=13869436000163&&epar=bp_pl_00_go_g35150&gclid=Cj0KEQjwyozABRDtgPTM0taCrKsBEiQATk6xDiDMFp0bKrj6s336DOxUi8XDmOfNuURU0JHGkHxL-VgaAiaF8P8HAQ
(http://www.submarino.com.br/produto/12708267/cartao-sandisk-extreme-sdhc-32gb-de-90mb-s-uhs-i-u3-classe-10-para-4k?opn=XMLGOOGLE&WT.srch=1&loja=13869436000163&&epar=bp_pl_00_go_g35150&gclid=Cj0KEQjwyozABRDtgPTM0taCrKsBEiQATk6xDiDMFp0bKrj6s336DOxUi8XDmOfNuURU0JHGkHxL-VgaAiaF8P8HAQ)

How much I can go up on 70D? Someone has experience in this?

I was thinking in use CBR just a little higher, like 1.3 or 1.5... Gonna have problems?

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: phorgan1 on October 17, 2016, 09:29:02 AM
Just noting that I'm another 1.1.2 user who is available for testing. You can also contact me at phorgan1 at gmail
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on October 17, 2016, 01:15:52 PM
Quote from: phorgan1 on October 17, 2016, 09:29:02 AM
Just noting that I'm another 1.1.2 user who is available for testing. You can also contact me at phorgan1 at gmail

Why ask when it's already available?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: notasss on October 17, 2016, 01:49:53 PM
Is it posible to shot 1080/60  with TVE last versión of ML , besides  use this with optical zoom x3 at the sale time?

Thanks a lot
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: thegman59 on October 19, 2016, 12:02:57 AM
Been using ML on this camera for about 3 months to help improve green screen keying in work. As of yesterday some, let's say 'muppet' helpfully updated the firmware to 1.1.2 (i keep the ML SD card with me as I'm the green screen videographer and the in field videographer uses another non ML SD card). Anyway after he updated it I was forced to try this new beta ML and for the most part works great, ettr.mo is not present however and I have noticed lots of coloured pixels appear on MLV footage that was not there in the previous nightly. Is there anything I can do to remove these coloured spots as I have about a week before I have three days solid booking of shootings and I need ML to run right for my workflow to be at its most efficient. Not the end of the world if I cant as ill use the built in .mov recording but it will make my inner child cry if its not crisp and easily key-able.
Title: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 19, 2016, 08:59:00 PM
Guys...

Better late than never. Please update to 112 (download build from OP) if you haven't already. Not only the AutoFocus (face tracker especially) seems to be quicker and more precise (doesn't over/under-rack as much) which may be useful for some and it just feels better overall. Perhaps for Gimbal work?

Nice job Canon with the firmware update! 8)

Finally some test feedbacks:

*Bug Report Sheet*

Regarding 70D_1.1.2 -- 

Shot features
- advaced bracket:
- default params (auto and constant frames) - OK
- default + iso shifting (auto frames) - OK
- default + DOF + constant frames - OK
- default + flash + (auto/constant) frames - OK
- intervalometer:
- interval 3s -> real interval for 3 pictures: 3, 1, 3, 1, 3, 1, 3  even with Dual-ISO FRSP Love it!!!  8)
- trigger - all seems OK

Image review
  - play mode exposure adjust - OK
  - timelapse play - ok both directions (confirmed)
  - trigger key - all OK
  - image review - OK
  - quick zoom single press -> 100% - OK
  - fast - OK
  - full zoom on AF - OK?
   
Expo lock
  - Off/Tv,ISO/Tv,Av - OK
  - off/ISO,Tv/Tv,Av - OK
  - off/Tv,ISO/Av,Tv - OK
  - iso,Av/Tv,ISO/Av,Tv - OK
  - iso,Av/off/Av,Tv -OK

Dual ISO
  - 100/800, 100/1600 - OK
  - alternate frames - OK
  - custom file prefix - OK

Expo presets
  - Press Info - OK
  - Press Set -  OK
  - white balance only in K mode works OK
 
Overlay (all in photo mode)
  - Zebras
     under, over - OK
     color space - OK

Focus peak
  - greyscale - OK (although I don't use it much)

Crop marks
- show in photo mode - OK
- show in play mode - photo topleft+metadata -> cropmark on whole display (confirmed)

Ghost image
- play with photo topleft+metadata -> overlay photo only on topleft in LV

Spotmetter
- spotmeter unit - OK
- spot position - OK

LV with ML overlay
- ML comes back on after 5-6 seconds for the 'Menu Timeout Workaround' (This is normal)

False color
- All Modes seem normal to me. Can anyone else confirm this to be sure?

Waveform
- all modes do work but sometimes Spot meter portion takes away parts of waveform if enlarged

Vector scope
- OK

Histogram
- OK works really well actually.

DOF settings
- OK This can be useful for manual only lenses.

Maybe later on this week when I have more time to record the LiveView Display externally for these who are curious.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: camslide on October 20, 2016, 04:54:01 PM
I updated to 1.1.2 and reinstalled ML. Is there a reason for not including ettr.mo?
A little off-topic: Is it possible to use FRSP and automatically disable it when getting near the limits?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: lucas_baez on October 20, 2016, 08:05:02 PM
Hi!
I updated my 70D firmware to 1.1.2, and then I tried to install 70D.111A or 70D.111B on my SD Card, and It doesn't worked.
My serial number is 032021010449.
Have you noticed the same problem?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 21, 2016, 05:40:36 AM
70D.111x -> "70D" names the cam, "111" the firmware you have to use with this build.
-> User error.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: OlRivrRat on October 21, 2016, 06:33:33 AM
      @LucasBaez

   Go to NikFreaks Reply #2674 to Get the M'L'Build for 70D Firmware 112 ~

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: starbase64 on October 21, 2016, 09:22:25 AM
@LucasBaez

same problem here, format sd card and retry. works for me
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: andy kh on October 22, 2016, 01:11:35 PM
I was hoping canon would enable 70D to use wifi in video mode with its new firware updates
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: Renato70DB on October 22, 2016, 03:06:17 PM
Hello developers, I'm having a problem with the latest firmware and the latest after updating to 1.1.2, the errors are the same, so that uninstalled the Magic Lantern on my 70D, to start a film and then for it click the button the preview to see how the camera enters error having to turn it off with the removal of so battery so back to work again, and after reconnects it can see the filming carried out, but if you are shooting and stop to see what I filmed the machine to and enters error.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: darkskies on October 24, 2016, 10:00:03 AM
Try QDslrDashboard with a Tplink mr3040 with the qDslrDashboard firmware put on it and then you can ....also save video straight to iPad I do and it is great .....

http://dslrdashboard.info/downloads/

https://youtu.be/Our-AxmrDJM

Then you need to update the firmware one more time ! Which is not in the video

http://dslrdashboard.info/tp-link-mr3040-firmware-upgrade/
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: camslide on October 24, 2016, 08:08:13 PM
I got an error with the new 112 test release:
QuoteASSERT: FALSE
at ./Memory/Memory.c:188, task ShootPreDevelop
lv:0 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2016Oct05.70D112
Mercurial changeset   : cc5a27d4f833 (70D_merge_fw112) tip
Built on 2016-10-05 19:45:22 UTC by ml@ml-VirtualBox.
Free Memory  : 64K + 766K
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 24, 2016, 08:26:03 PM
Would you care to elaborate on what were you doing exactly up to the point of this error?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: camslide on October 24, 2016, 08:52:06 PM
I activated live-view and tried to take a picture. I got an Err 70.
active modules:adv_int, autoexpo, deflick, dot_tune, dual_iso, ettr(from older version), file_man, lua, mlv_play, mlv_rec, mlv_snd, pic_view, raw_rec, silent
I disabled all modules and  reset to defaults. Can't reproduce it anymore...
EDIT: OK, I can reproduce it. It seems to be the old ettr module that crashes the camera
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: nikfreak on October 24, 2016, 10:37:23 PM
The test build from #2674 for 1.1.2 doesn't include ettr.mo.
So you just using the one from 1.1.1 being still located on your sdcard.

Going to update the first post these days then....
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: camslide on October 25, 2016, 10:22:48 AM
Yes, I was using the one from 1.1.1. I didn't use it actively, just activated the module.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-3c / 23rd Apr)
Post by: khrisvincent on October 25, 2016, 11:54:12 PM
I have a firmware version 1.1.2 and installed ML. the question is, whenever I use FRSP + Intervalometer, my screen just goes black. but it's working. I have seen some videos on youtube and theirs still shows live mode while intervalometer is running. Do I have to change settings so that Live View mode will still be on the screen while using FRSP + Intervalometer?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on October 26, 2016, 11:06:52 AM
Recompiled and linked the new build based upon firmware 1.1.2 and updated first post. Dropping hereby support for all previous releases based upon 1.1.1 (be it A or B revision).

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Cadkey on October 26, 2016, 05:19:26 PM
ML Beta 4a, message"Raw error, falling back to YUV overlays"
No problem with old ML version.
How to solve this problem please?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on October 26, 2016, 06:36:18 PM
Not a problem at all as it always existed. You probably just discovered it for the first time.
You probably played too much with the "Zebras" option in ML menu. For the time being I recommend turning off "use RAW zebras". Another option would be to disable quick review or just use LumaFast or a combination of all mentioned...

Btw the "not working" section in 1st post contains a hint regarding raw zebras. And that hint has been there for a long time now...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Cadkey on October 27, 2016, 06:18:19 PM
I've never had this problem in Beta 3c, I have not changed my options since.
I have not "use RAW zebras" in "Zebras" option.
I have "Color Space", "Underexposure", "Overexposure" and "When recording"
And in "Color Space" there are" Luma "," RGB "," Luma Fast "

Tested with "Zebras" Off and same error "error Raw, falling back to YUV overlays"

Edit: Restore ML defaults and Restart, same error
        Delete SETTING folder on SDCard, always same error.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on October 27, 2016, 07:01:23 PM
You sure that you also didn't change any "Quick Review" settings?

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Cadkey on October 27, 2016, 07:16:02 PM
It worked in Beta 3c, I never touched this tuning for a long time. I'm sure and certain.
Now impossible to use the Beta 4a with an "image review" option other than "Hold"
with or without Zebras, impossible to use image review.
Before, all image review option worked, Always use image review on 4 seconds with ML
Even without Zebra, "Image review" function is degraded with ML.

No solution to use full option in "Image review in Beta Beta 4a like beta 3c and previous version?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on October 27, 2016, 07:41:35 PM
I need to make a diff between the old 1.1.1 branch and the new 1.1.2. Maybe I missed something while doing the update to 1.1.2 but the message always was there from the beginning of 70D porting. Maybe I just was hiding the message for thepeople not being confused.
Don't feel stressed for the moment. I would describe it as a fallback message not really suited for everyone's eye. You can use the "canonMnu:Hold" trick for the moment.

Check the source comments please:
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/src/15fce5b49b23baeba38c9dd49e5f2822aaa85400/src/raw.c?at=unified&fileviewer=file-view-default#raw.c-1957

For the moment ignore it...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Cadkey on October 27, 2016, 07:46:47 PM
Ok.  indeed, the message appears. but it does not seem that there is a problem or a real error in my case.
In my configuration used, I never had this message displayed in Beta 3c.
Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on October 27, 2016, 07:53:21 PM
for more infos regarding that problem check the Pull request on bitbucet for the older 1.1.1 revisions. I've posted screenshots over there how it will look even if you enable "use raw zebras". Check it out:

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/src/15fce5b49b23baeba38c9dd49e5f2822aaa85400/src/raw.c?at=unified&fileviewer=file-view-default#raw.c-1957
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Cadkey on October 27, 2016, 08:09:21 PM
Yes I understand. in 1.1.1, there was this problem with "use raw zebras", it's ok.
In 1.1.2 the problem widened. Probably like you said, the message may not be in the right place in 1.1.2
The display of the error message is not a problem in my case. I can ignore it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nk87 on November 01, 2016, 09:52:17 AM
Hello. Please fix focus box in magic zoom. I can't move it. This focus box stay only in one position on the screen. It was the same problem as in some alpha builds
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: khwaja on November 01, 2016, 04:57:26 PM
I am going to try install. Can I use EC with M model like in latest cameras (80D, M3 and 5d4).

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: farrellts on November 02, 2016, 01:41:47 PM
Please feel free to yell at me. I'm extremely technical in terms of computer hardware & software development but have not had my 70D awfully long (early 2016), and it will take me a while to read what appears to be 109 pages of prior posts from EOS 70D Magic Lantern users.  I  have installed EOS 1.1.2 firmware update, then Magic Lantern (October 2016 download), which is functioning well on camera.  Perhaps somebody can just share whether what follows is unique to me:

Sure, a few occasional crashes when using camera in the field but no big deal to reboot as needed.  However, I'm finding it problematic now to connect to PC via USB cable and download image/video files -- causes Magic Lantern to crash, no idea why.  This is the case, whether cable is connected prior to power-on or after.

So I figured I'd do a temporary boot without Magic Lantern and see if I could then make the USB/PC connection.  However, holding down "Set" while powering up camera does NOT seem to stop Magic Lantern from loading per the instructions for doing so.  (And, yes, I hold "Set" down before power on and then while watching Magic Lantern load anyhow.)

Looks like, for now anyhow, I will have to either pop my EOS 70D's SD card directly into my laptop to get access to photos/videos.  Or else via my Android device, either using USB OTG connection or DSLR Controller/Gallery apps.

Nevertheless, it will eventually be necessary to connect to laptop via USB.

Thanks, and again, please feel free to yell at me.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: lojzik on November 02, 2016, 03:29:19 PM
I have problem with silent pictures
- simple - hlf-shutter - dng taken
- full-res - hlf-shutter - nothing

Title: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on November 02, 2016, 05:16:55 PM
@farrellts -- no need to yell at you. Just please continue with using the SD slot reader in your laptop OR get a decent card reader (preferably USB 3.0 and supports UDMA 0-7) as I like this one that has served me well over the past year or so.

http://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/reviews/card-readers/kingston-memory-card-reader-fcr-hs4/

@lojzik -- have you tried resetting ML back to default and run FRSP again? Are you using DNG or MLV to spit out the FRSP files?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: a1ex on November 02, 2016, 05:26:08 PM
How does the crash look like?

There is a similar problem on 5D2, but I had no way to reproduce it consistently. After the crash, repeating the copy process works fine...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 02, 2016, 06:44:45 PM
      @Farrellts

   It has been mentioned, in the not too distant past, that having the "lua.mo" Active May cause some

70D+M'L' Operational Issues. So Disable it if You have it Active & Try Again.

   I found that the Set Button on My 70D had to be Pressed "Just Right" during StartUp to Prevent M'L'

Launch. The Following is from a Post I did back in Apr'15 ~

   SetButtonStart Issue Solved ~ Turned out to be a Firm-Awareness quirk ~ If I Depress & Hold the SetButton with the Meat

of my thumb, which is how I normally Press It, ML would still be active. If I Depress & Hold the SetButton with my ThumbNail the

Cam' Starts up with ML Inactive. My apologies to all who Wasted Time on solving MyProb'.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: lojzik on November 02, 2016, 08:32:04 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on November 02, 2016, 05:16:55 PM
@lojzik -- have you tried resetting ML back to default and run FRSP again? Are you using DNG or MLV to spit out the FRSP files?
reset ML
enable silenpicture
fullress + dng -> nothing
simple + dng -> log on display + saved dng
fullress + mlv -> nothing
simple + mlv -> mlv module error
enable mlv&raw modules
fullress + mlv -> nothing
simple + mlv -> log on display + saved mlv
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on November 03, 2016, 04:24:24 AM
Do you realized that FRSP only works while in LiveView?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: lojzik on November 03, 2016, 06:28:28 AM
My research:
1. Av+simple silentpictures -> saved
2. Av+FRSP -> nothing
3. Av+FRSP+intervalometer -> Manual (M) is required
3. M (auto iso)+ FRSP -> manual exposure is required
4. M + FRSP -> saved

It was my first using of FRSP and I don't know about manual exposure. It would be nice to write to menu, that FRSP requires manual exposure (here is only info about LV) and variant 2 lacks relevant error message.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: a1ex on November 03, 2016, 07:58:01 AM
Menu warning works fine here (60D).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on November 03, 2016, 07:58:30 AM
There's definitely a hint for your problem within silent.mo while browsing through ML menu. Check again yourself on the camera:

QuoteFull-res pictures only work in Manual (M) photo mode.

Feel free to suggest a better suited text within FRSP's thread over here:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12523.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: lojzik on November 03, 2016, 08:14:51 AM
I found reason
if I first enable FRSP and then LV, in menu is only message about LV (It's my habit activate LV after ML settings from time, when ML menu autocloses in LV)
if I first enable LV and then FRSP, in menu is message about manual mode. And this is only one info about this requirement. In module description is info only about LV. When I use hlfshutter, I get info about (M) only if intervalometer is enabled, without intervalometer nothing.

edit: So if I enable FRSP and then LV without intervalometer without (M) (I mean its legal, If I use this approach with M, it works), I never get information about (M) mode.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: a1ex on November 03, 2016, 08:28:51 AM
There's little room to display all the requirements; to keep things simple, the menu backend just displays the first one. You fix that one, then it displays the next one, and so on.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: lojzik on November 03, 2016, 08:35:01 AM
Yes, I understand. But dont forget rest of my post. If I enable intervalometer and use hlfshutter, I get info about (M). If I disable intervalometer and use hlfshutter, I get no info. Is it possible display info about (M) if I use hlfshutter without intervalometer? It would be a solution.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: lojzik on November 03, 2016, 10:56:17 AM
I have problem with opening mlv from filemanager without using LV after camera turn on.
turn on camera -> file manager -> open mlv -> view -> noise and "YUV buffer was not initialized" -> enable LV -> disable LV -> filemanager -> open mlv -> view  -> OK -> turn off -> turn on -> ... -> view -> noise and error -> ...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: waxsatanic on November 03, 2016, 07:00:40 PM
Hi, Team,

Brand new to Magic Lantern. I have a few introductory questions that I hope you can clear up for me (or help me find resources that already discuss it).

I just updated my Canon 70D to firmware version 1.1.2 and installed the 70D Nightly ML build onto a fresh SD card. I followed the instructions accurately and tried it out on my camera. Since I'm new I didn't understand until just now that the nightly build is virtually brand new and is in stages of development. The videos I've seen on YouTube are actually describing 1.1.1 or another version, which were probably more stable.

I'm almost exclusively a stills photographer and new to ML. Should I uninstall it and wait until more progress has been made on this version?

I'm noticing some issues with the performance and want to know if I'm doing something wrong, if these are known issues, or if I should be reporting these as bugs.

The basic issue is that more often then not when taking the very first exposure, ML will crash and I will have to hard-reboot with a battery removal. I'm sorry that I don't have the camera in front of me to give you more details, but every time it happens it scares me (probably because I'm new to ML and a little gun shy.)

What are best practices for handling a crash?

The other main issue is that the magic zoom window flickers wildly.

A smaller issue is that the readout for aperture size and shutter speed lags behind when I change them on my camera by a good second or two.

Should I start over with a clean download and install? Could that clear up my issues?

A few other questions: Does ML take advantage of the 70D's dual-pixel autofocus currently? I read a few pages back that the AF stuff isn't working for 1.1.2 right now-- did I understand that correctly? For some reason the Live View AF with AL seems not as strong/precise, although that could be my imagination.

Thank you for your time!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on November 03, 2016, 08:27:56 PM
You need to exactly describe the steps so we can reproduce your crashes. My initial thought is that you might have loaded the lua module?!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: waxsatanic on November 03, 2016, 10:17:55 PM
I probably did-- I need to check it out when I get home in a bit. I used a youtube video tutorial about how to use ML for a Canon 70D that was probably for the 1.1.1 version. It suggested to load many modules. I didn't realize at first that the 1.1.2 ML program was brand spanking new and therefore possibly undersupported and/or unstable.

Is there a user guide for this new 1.1.2 beta ML, or a least a list of modules I *shouldn't* load?

I hope I haven't done any permanent damage to my camera!  :-X
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 04, 2016, 04:41:21 PM
      @WaxSatanic

   You won't get much help in the M'L' User Manual Area as the MLUM is Ancient & Not Camera Specific

(or @Least that was the case the last time I looked into it).

   As to the Stability of the Latest Build ~ My Guess would be that it is probably much more stable than

previous Builds due to the fact that it was built using an Official Firmware Update provided by Canon.

   As to which Modules to Load ~ Only those that You Feel You will Use on a Regular Basis.

I Normally leave the following Disabled ~

   arkanoid.mo

   bench.mo

   lua.mo

   selftest.mo

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on November 04, 2016, 06:17:01 PM
No damage should be done. Simply use the modules that you are going to use.

Quote from: OlRivrRat on November 04, 2016, 04:41:21 PM
I Normally leave the following Disabled ~

   arkanoid.mo

   bench.mo

   lua.mo

   selftest.mo

This should be a good start for you to try @waxsatanic!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: lojzik on November 05, 2016, 11:52:44 AM
found problem with FRSP and image review settings canonmnu:Hold->Play

set review settings canonmnu:Hold->play
enable FRSP
[half-shutter]
black display with "Half-shutted pressed..."
release [half-shutter]
no picture taken and displayed last photo

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: waxsatanic on November 07, 2016, 03:56:38 PM
Thank you all for the help!

Indeed I did have the LUA module running and when I disabled it, everything worked fine. I'm learning how to use ML effectively now.

One thing I am trying to figure out is how to use the Magic Zoom with manual focus. I want to be able to manually focus in dark conditions using Magic Zoom-- it may be faster and more accurate this way with some skill. When I switch my lens to manual the Magic Zoom is disabled. I guess if I keep the lens in Single Shot focus mode and not AI servo and use back button focus I should be able to hand focus using the Magic zoom as a guide. Or maybe not-- I seem to remember that Live View wanted to keep focusing even on that setting. Is there a way I can stop Live View from autofocusing as well as keeping Magic Zoom on?

Is there a place where people share settings and techniques for the 70D using ML? I'm really looking to trade techniques for still photography to take full advantage of ML. Both the 70D and ML are new to me so there is a lot I need to learn about how everything works before I am proficient. I don't want to miss any critical shots, either!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: farrellts on November 08, 2016, 10:06:50 AM
Thanks all for the helpful replies.  It is interesting that I just managed to successfully connect via USB and access files on my 70D.  However, just before that I got a crash.  Not sure what sequence I did which made it work, will have to experiment and get back.  I will also upload crash log here.

I think I understand what was shared about holding "Setup" with fingernail versus thumb -- sounds kind of like how one sometimes needs a ball point pen to correctly hold the reset button on a router or a Roku.  Anyhow, I will give that a try.

In answer to what the crash "looks like", it is ERR 70 (which seems pretty generic).  The crash happens while Magic Lantern is loading modules.  Did not see exactly which module it crashes on but perhaps the log will show that.  I will try disabling the specific LUA module mentioned and see if that makes a difference.  Anyhow, when it crashes, the little portion of the screen with the command-line display of modules loading turns into a corrupted image and freezes.  I guess I can take a photo of that next time with my cell phone and upload.

BTW, these were just JPG and MOV files, nothing fancy, and in fact I am a little embarrassed to say that, when I shot those, I was just using the basic Canon menus and only accessed the Magic Lantern menus to turn off all of its features.  I was just visiting friends over Halloween and photographing their Boston terriers and an old run-down cemetery in Dallas.  (Wish I had been shooting raw images and had brought my Zoom 4N for the latter, because I inadvertently got some really creepy audio which I honestly cannot explain while shooting video at one particular grave.)


Anyhow, thanks again to for the very useful information.  I was only expressing trepidation as regards "yelling" because I had seem some of that in other parts of the Magic Lantern forum -- and in fact, when people don't do their homework, perhaps some gentle "yelling" is appropriate.  In terms of homework, I honestly need to reread the available docs on what Magic Lantern features are and are not available for EOS 70D and also this entire forum thread.  That seems to be the entirety of the available documentation, right?  (At some point later on, I'll probably be interested in reviewing how Magic Lantern interfaces with the EOS firmware -- the C/C++ code and LUA modules.  LUA is one scripting language I have not worked with but it does look like fun.  Would be nice to add a module for Twittering Donald Trump at 3am?)

I'll be back with crash log(s), photo of crash screen and more narrative.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Cadkey on November 09, 2016, 11:50:24 AM
Your signature is 70D.111A, ML Beta-4a is not compatible with 70D.111A
You must update your Canon firmware
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: JChance on November 13, 2016, 11:44:47 PM
Hey is there version 112A available? I recently redownload ML onto my 70D and the other vers. of the nightly build that is compatible with my camera has been wiped off the website?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 13, 2016, 11:48:35 PM
There is no 112A, there is no 112B. Most recent version covers all cams with firmware 1.1.2.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: JChance on November 13, 2016, 11:53:18 PM
So do i have to upgrade the firmware of my camera before putting ML on now?

because it still says update to 1.1
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 13, 2016, 11:57:49 PM
First page ...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: JChance on November 14, 2016, 12:06:25 AM
screw my question i realized 5 seconds after i posted that its common sense

whoops
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: farrellts on November 15, 2016, 08:30:28 AM
As an update on prior posts, it is curious that, once I had moved the bulk of the photos I had taken off my 70D's SD card, I no longer had any further issues with connecting via USB.  No idea why this should matter, since:
1) the image files took up only a fraction of the SD card's 32gb capacity;
2) the SD card is a Sandisk Extreme with rather high data transfer rates; and
3) I had used SDCardFormatter to format the SD Card per instructions for instlaling Magic Lantern.

However, do not despair, as I continue to encounter the same "Err 70" elseshere -- specifically it has happened while shooting still images saved as raw under one or more settings on the "mode" dial.  Since I do have two identical 32gb SD cards with the latest Magic Lantern for 70D version on them, perhaps if I switch them out I can isolate further what looks here like some kind of data throughput write error.

Again, this occurred just using the basic Canon menus for the most part right now.  Not sure but it may have been under SCN" mode.

(I really AM interested in the additional functionality offered by Magic Lantern and actually DO find the Magic Lantern menus a good bit more intuitive than Canon's, but somebody found out I was setting up lights to shoot myself  a new headshot for IMDB, and all the sudden it seems I'm having to shoot headshots for everybody and their dog.)

Not to digress (too much) but in fact I had bought this camera primarily for its excellent video capabilities, for which one pretty much only wants the thing set to "manual" ("M") mode.  Now I am shooting test stills in several modes and find the Canon menus and even more so the "Quick Control" screen stifflingly awkward.  Perhaps because they are designed for a wide variety of technical and photographic expertise levels -- and I especially hate all the clutter with novice-level features which are great for somebody shooting the family vacation or Junior's first birthday but serve no purpose for anybody who knows how to edit photos and video on a PC or Mac  On the other hand, Magic Lantern's menus presume technical competence, don't dumb down for the casual user, and give me a lot more features to grow into.  (Only wish the Magic Lantern menus did not periodically flicker in and our of live view but I did read the disclaimer about what does not currently and may never work due to 70D's firmware.)  So thanks to the developers for this!

Anyhow, when I can isolate specific situations where I get "Err 70" while shooting stills, I will post again.


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: farrellts on November 15, 2016, 12:15:21 PM
Additional testing shows that my 70D freezes, while shooting still, with "Err 70", only when I have the camera set to capture raw images.  When I just sent the camera to capture jpegs (of any size), it seems NEVER to freeze up while shooting stills.  As before, I am just doing testing prior to taking a bunch of headshots and am just using the Canon menus at this point since this is nothing very sophisticated.

Meanwhile, I found connecting by USB again became an issue.  Pops up with "Err 70" and requires reboot.   It appears to be related to the presence of raw image files.  I don't really get it because a file is just a file (unless the camera-side and/or PC-side drivers think otherwise I guess.  No problem, for now, using SD card reader on my laptop when needed.

I'll use my other SD card later today and see what happens.

BTW, it seems these two cards are actually Sandisk "Ultra" capable of 80mb/second.  Sandisk has so many variations on "ultra" / "extreme" / "pro", it boggles them mind.  I could probably find an SD card with a faster data transfer rate but 80mb/s seems perfectly adequate and I don't thinkk that is what is at issue.

Will report more after using alternate SD card.  Also please see folloing message regarding the crash and boot logs:
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: farrellts on November 15, 2016, 12:20:31 PM
*** NOTE ***

I was going to attach a concatenated versions of the "crash##.log" and "log##.log" files from tonight's testing (because it is a LOT of files!) , but I do not see a button by which to upload attachments.  Can anybody clue me in?  I can also just copy/past the contents of these files into this forum, but that might be a bit much for people to have to page through.  Have I missed the procedure for submitting these logs to developers?  An email address or send in a private message to a given user?

MEANWHILE, the crash logs are all very similar, and involve a memory management issue.  Here is a sample error message:

    at ./Memory/Memory.c:188, task ShootPreDevelop


The line number within "Memory.c" is usually, but not always 188, and the "task" involved also varies.  There might have been a couple other modules involved in addition to "Memory.c".  I guess I can grep a list of unique errors if that would be helpful?

Just let me know where to send these logs and I will be glad to do so.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Danne on November 15, 2016, 12:24:44 PM
Put them in a text file and link it from google drive, dropbox or similar.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on November 15, 2016, 01:11:47 PM
@farrellts: which build are you running? Is it "magiclantern-Nightly.2016Oct26.70D112.zip" from 1st post? Did you previously run 111 firmware?

Your problem is probably caused by an old ettr module. Check camslide's posts after this (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg173764#msg173764) one. Otherwise be sure to have lua module disabled.
Title: Canon 70D ML Menu Differences
Post by: PFinnegan on November 18, 2016, 08:07:46 PM
Hello there, and thanks for all the work you guys have done on ML. The benefits are enormous!

My question relates to some differences I am seeing in the ML menu structure on my 70D FW v112. The reason why I am looking at these options is that I am trying record HD video from the 70D's HDMI port to an Atomos Shogun Flame. Even with the Canon power save option disabled, the 70D still drops the mirror after 30 minutes (as you know).  There are solutions offered on this board but the options that need to be set do not seem to be available on my ML menus. So here are the specifics:

First, I don't see a Misc Key option in the Prefs menu (so I can set sticky halfshutter). A screen shot of what I am seeing is available here. (I tried embedding the image in the post but it didn't work from DropBox.)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/y5ni1gprq48aa7v/ml_prefs.JPG?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/y5ni1gprq48aa7v/ml_prefs.JPG?dl=0)


Second, As I searched the forum regarding how to disable power save, I have seen references to the ability to "disable" power save in ML. Even the ML tips at the bottom of the power save in liveview submenu say "if enabled" making me think it can be disabled. However, I am seeing no options for disabling power save. Here are two screen shots that show you what I am seeing:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7yyye5zwydcy0ef/ml_power_1.JPG?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/7yyye5zwydcy0ef/ml_power_1.JPG?dl=0)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9uzuj6edcgcrk00/ml_power_2.JPG?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/9uzuj6edcgcrk00/ml_power_2.JPG?dl=0)

Thanks for any help you can offer.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Cadkey on November 18, 2016, 11:42:13 PM
@PFinnegan:
Set "use shortcut key" OFF
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: StalloneYuan on November 19, 2016, 05:22:15 AM
Thank You!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: kamaruddin isah on November 19, 2016, 08:49:33 AM
i just install Magic Lantern (Beta-4a / 26th Oct) in my canon 70D.. error msg like this >> incorrect firmware version.. expecting  a canon 70D.. with firmware version 112... please try installing ML for 70D 112A...  what shoult i do... tq
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 19, 2016, 11:36:43 AM
Install Canon firmware version 1.1.2.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: PFinnegan on November 22, 2016, 05:18:55 PM
Thanks for the reply. Which issue will that resolve?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 23, 2016, 06:56:11 AM
Using most recent ML build for 70D designed to work with 1.1.2.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: farrellts on November 24, 2016, 04:20:06 PM
Per recommendations last week, I deleted the "ML" directory on my SD card then copied it back from the newest release.  This seems to have corrected the issue I was encountering with crashes within "Memory.c" generating "Err 70".  And, yes, before I performed the above actions, I compared file counts in the "ML" directory on my SD card to those in the latest release directory.  They did in fact differ.

So did I misread earlier documentation which instructed us to simply copy a new ML release on top of the last one?  I don't believe I would have done so on my own.  Then again I suppose I could have imagined it.

Anyhow, I certainly have encountered analogous situations in software development.  In one job I was the engineer with the "exciting" responsibility of building and maintaining product installers, wherein one was always doing battle to try to stay in sync with changes from Microsoft, Apple, Sun Microsystems and -- of course -- the users.

Thanks for the recommendation.  I suppose the obsolete ".mo" must have been the culprit as suggested.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: stan101 on November 25, 2016, 01:55:33 PM
Just loaded up the new Canon firmware and ML.

Can confirm it went smoothly and dotfocus module works well.

Will test more this weekend


thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 25, 2016, 05:13:02 PM
      @Farrellts

   Should normally be unnecessary to Delete Old M'L' build before Installing a New 1. Probable reason for the File Count Diff'

is that the New "Settings" Folder is Empty until You apply some settings Changes.

   My Usual Update Procedure is to Remove Old "Settings" Folder from the "ML" Folder, Copy New Build Pieces to the SDCard,

@ which time I get asked if I want to Replace Those that are Already there & I answer Yes, Then I copy my Old "Settings" Folder

to the New "ML" Folder being asked again if the 1 that is there should be Replaced to which I answer Yes ~ & Its Done ~ The New

Build is Installed & My Old Settings are already Active ~

                                       ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Canon 70D ML Menu Differences
Post by: PFinnegan on November 25, 2016, 07:00:46 PM
Thanks CadKey,

Which issue does your solution resolve? I did as you suggested but the camera still drops the mirror at 30 minutes.Plus there is no option for setting the halfpress shutter to sticky. I assume this is why I am still seeing power save taking effect.

Thanks again
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Cadkey on November 25, 2016, 07:32:13 PM
It resolve your question "how to disable power save in ML"
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: funkysound on November 25, 2016, 08:01:53 PM
Hello again - didn´t write something here since a long time because ML did and still does work very good on my EOSMs and 600D. Thanks a lot for that!
I use them for a long time now for professional video making. Still love to use the old 600D because of the Audio Out option, 3x digital zoom combined with flexible the display. if I don´t have to use a 5D the 600D is my choice.
Now a bought a 70D too because of the better focus and the first thing was to install ML - great work again!
I have two questions:
Can you implement the 3x zoom in ML to have all functions available without changing to canon Menu and could it ever be possible to have an audio out too?
Another great thing would be (for all DSLRs) to have the possibility to compile a special department for the functions one is using often. Sometimes it takes too much time to jump through the Menu departments for changes like for example Audio overwrite on/of, WB control and 3x Focus, ...
I´m only using a few things of the ML possibilities in my daily work and this would help a lot for my workflow. What do you think?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: PFinnegan on November 25, 2016, 10:47:57 PM
@Cadkey: Thanks again for the reply but as I mentioned, that solution didn't solve the problem for me. The camera still goes into power save and the mirror drops after 30 minutes.

Can you (or anyone else for that matter) help me with this issue and my other original questions?

Primary issue:I need the 70D to not go into power save while recording via HDMI

Secondary / related / causal issues: I can't see the sticky keys options and the option to disable power save in the ML menu that the manual and on-screen help refers to.

Thanks for any help you can offer.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 26, 2016, 02:34:51 AM
         @FunkySound

"Another great thing would be (for all DSLRs) to have the possibility to compile a special department for the functions one is using often"

   Both CanonMenu & M'L'Menu Already Have this Functionality ~ Both are Located @ the RightMost Tab in the Menus ~ Canon calls

theirs "MyMenu" & it has a Star Icon ~ M'L' calls theirs "Modified" & it has a TriAngle or Warning Icon ~

                                       ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: andy kh on November 26, 2016, 07:07:52 AM
Is it too early for 70D to get 12bit/10bit raw rec??
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: funkysound on November 26, 2016, 10:41:21 AM
@OlRivrRat

I know about "My Menu" and also "Modified" - as far as I experienced this function it only shows what was changed and is still changed.
Even if this is a great help it is not what I meant.
If I change back a function to normal its gone from "Modified" after a new start and I have to go through the tabs again to find it.  On the other side functions stay available which I never or rarely change back to normal.
I thought about a kind of "My menu" inside ML which I can configure for my special needs.
Or did I get something wrong here and this is already possible?

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 26, 2016, 10:56:26 AM
Prefs -> Customize Menus
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: funkysound on November 26, 2016, 11:19:12 AM
@Walter Schulz

Ohh shit ... how stupid am I. Should have asked much earlier - Thanks a lot for this fast answer Walter!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on November 26, 2016, 11:56:31 AM
Quote from: andy kh on November 26, 2016, 07:07:52 AM
Is it too early for 70D to get 12bit/10bit raw rec??

I will prepare something for you some patience plz - just free time is really rare atm.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 26, 2016, 05:58:39 PM
      @FunkySound & Walter

   Well BODDB (BigOl'DumbyDeanB) ~ Been so long since I SetUp &or Used M'L' (since My 70D is Dead & I seldom use 5DM2 anymore)

that I plumb forgot about that ~ Thanks for the HeadsUp Walter.

                                 ORR ~ BODDB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: andy kh on November 27, 2016, 08:44:57 AM
@nikfreak no pro. Will wait till u get free time
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on November 27, 2016, 05:38:17 PM
Not used 10 or 12 bit raw before. 
Does reduction in bits mean that the clips record longer with 10bit raw than 14 bit raw?
I dont assume efficiency unless its measured.
Title: Raw error, falling back to YUV overlays
Post by: lamella on December 03, 2016, 04:25:08 PM
Hi,
error message compes again after every single photos taken: Raw error, falling back to YUV overlays

camera: 70D, fw: 1.1.2
build: Nightly.2016Oct26.70D112

Debug console says:
Black 1/5: mean too different (2049, ref 2686+-221.15)

What's the problem, and is there a short workaround?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: OlRivrRat on December 03, 2016, 05:22:41 PM
      @ Lamellia

   Turn Off All Modules You Don't Need & See if that Changes anything.

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: a1ex on December 03, 2016, 05:27:38 PM
The issue was discussed before, and it's not related to modules. Canon code overwrites the raw buffer after taking a picture, so it has to be patched somehow in order to use raw overlays in photo mode.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: lamella on December 03, 2016, 08:50:30 PM
So it's still an open issue, OK. Thx A1ex!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Diffractor on December 04, 2016, 02:53:22 AM
Seeing as Canon have clearly abandoned any hope of fixing the notoriously unreliable WLAN 'feature' - is there anything the ML firmware can do to help this?  Has anyone even got it to work reliably?  It seems to work more reliably with the camera creating the network, but nearly not at all with an external WLAN.

BTW great work on the firmware... really appreciate all the effort you put in...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: In5anity on December 10, 2016, 10:30:15 PM
Hi everyone,

I just installed ML for the first time on my 70D. Thank you for that amazing work. I'm writing here on this board because I have a problem, which I am not able to solve. I mainly installed ML to have the zebras and focus peaking options, but while it briefly displays overexposed and focused areas in previews after taking a picture, in Liveview the overlays don't seem to work. I guess I still have to activate an ML Liveview (at least my Liveview does not look like this (http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/magiclantern/images/b/b8/Zebras.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110821193847)) and probably this has been asked a couple of times but I couldn't find any info in this forum or anywhere else on the internet. I read somewhere, I should press 'info' but this only toggles through the standard canon options. Is there anything else I still need to activate? Thank you very much in advance.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Kolo on December 12, 2016, 11:08:21 PM
 Hi all
Installed ML beta4 on FW 1.1.2, default settings, all add-ons modules disabled.
But after installation, the camera began to wake up a little bit longer - 0.5-1 sec.
The same as described here:
    http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1253222
After complete removal of the ML by instructions (cleaning bootflag and format card) camera back to normal fast start.
This is a very small difference in the start, but annoying. Sometimes on streets scenes appear and disappear very quickly, and extra 0.5 seconds before focusing strongly interfere.
And it seems to me that it did not happen with the combination of FW 1.1.1 + beta3, but I don't sure.

b.r.
Maxim
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: willypete99 on December 15, 2016, 02:38:26 AM
I need some help. I bought a 70d off Craigslist. Whenever I try and take a picture I get error code 70. The previous owner had magic lantern and I believe this is what caused the use. I'm pretty sure the boot flag is set and I can't turn it off because the the camera's running firmware 1.1.1 and I only found downloads for 1.1.2. I tried updating to 1.1.2 but the camera just turns off when I do this. What can I do?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Cadkey on December 19, 2016, 02:06:26 PM
Update your device http://www.canon.co.uk/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos_70d.aspx?type=firmware
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: dnugrosj on December 22, 2016, 11:28:31 AM
download is unavaillable ? can re-up pls
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Frarike on December 22, 2016, 01:09:41 PM
It's fine.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B9Mu66yg5QzRWTdsN01sWm1RblE

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Canon EOS 50D on December 22, 2016, 10:29:23 PM
Hi everyone!
I'm considering purchasing a certain Canon EOS 70d on eBay, but I have a couple questions about magic lantern.

#1:  Does the fps overide work? I used this on my Canon 50D and it was exteremly helpful.
#2: How long can you record raw video on this? And, what are the raw recording resolutions?

Thanks in advance!  :)
canoneos50D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: gator81 on December 23, 2016, 01:20:51 AM
I have enjoyed magic latern for the 70d for the abilities that I can use.

My question is will this ever be finished? its been over a year and i see a lot of newer cameras getting taken care of and little has been done with the 70d.

thank you for the reply... again thank you for all the hard work.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: andy kh on December 23, 2016, 05:40:20 AM
U can record 720p continuous
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: starbase64 on December 23, 2016, 12:07:58 PM
I have tested fps override, but the slowest is 24fps. how can i use slower shutter speed eg 1/10 (in Video Mode)?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on December 23, 2016, 12:26:50 PM
Sorry but fps override is not enabled by default. It wasn't even enabled for the 1.1.1 firmware for a long time. We are now 1.1.2. Still fps override isn't included from download links in 1st post. If you are running custom builds then you need to harden 70D to only use timer A.
Title: 1920x1080 HDR Video at 60FPS on Canon 70D
Post by: lf on December 26, 2016, 11:26:46 PM
Can the Canon 70D shoot 1920x1080 HDR video at 60fps using ML? If so, could someone please explain the steps?

Thanks so much,

LF
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: khwaja on December 27, 2016, 07:56:56 AM
Looking for some feedback on 70d with dual iso vs 80d. Can 70d with dual iso produce images with similar 80d DR at iso 100 or 200. Can I shoot like people are shooing with 80d i.e., exposing to highlights to preserve them and later push the shadows by 3 to 4 stops. That way, I can preserve highlight details and push 4 stops and show details in shadows as well with post processing.

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on December 27, 2016, 10:28:33 AM
Quote from: lf on December 26, 2016, 11:26:46 PM
Can the Canon 70D shoot 1920x1080 HDR video at 60fps using ML? If so, could someone please explain the steps?

Thanks so much,

LF

Not possible.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: xsghost on December 27, 2016, 05:16:07 PM
Hi, guys.
Can you tell me if there's any benefit to upgrading to the new 1.1.2 firmware?
I mean besides fixing the Lens aberration correction issue with those two EF-S lenses described in the release.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Frarike on December 27, 2016, 06:22:35 PM
Quote from: xsghost on December 27, 2016, 05:16:07 PM
Hi, guys.
Can you tell me if there's any benefit to upgrading to the new 1.1.2 firmware?
I mean besides fixing the Lens aberration correction issue with those two EF-S lenses described in the release.

Upgrading will mean you are able to run the latest versions of ML.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: OlRivrRat on December 27, 2016, 06:27:50 PM
           Would Someone Please Explain how to Add Attachments to Posts - Thank You .
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Cadkey on December 28, 2016, 04:52:43 PM
Upload file(s) to http://www.zippyshare.com/ for exemple and copy/paste link here (insert Hyperlink).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: lozw on January 02, 2017, 12:24:35 PM
Is the accuracy of the shutter count function in ML assumed to be correct?

The reason I ask is that I am getting my 70D ready to sell, and wanted to check the shutter count.

Looking at photos, the numbering indicated 8800.
If I look in Lightroom - where all my photos are stored, then the metadata view shows 7500 with 70D.
That sounds about right - I don't delete photos unless they are clearly taken in error or just plain bad (e.g. OoF)
I dont 'run and gun' - so 8800 over the last 3 years looked to be in the ballpark I was expecting.  (the 70D isn't my only camera)

But ML shutter count shows >19k + >3,5k live view. And I thought there's no way I have taken that many pics with it.

Hence my question.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on January 02, 2017, 02:29:05 PM
Did you try one of those "camera shutter count" online services? What do they show to you?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: andy kh on January 02, 2017, 02:47:09 PM
I would love to downgrade to firmware 1.1.1 as face traking is much better with firmware 1.1.1 atleast in my test. I regret upgrading to 1.1.2
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on January 02, 2017, 03:01:08 PM
1.1.1 was a pain in the *** to maintain due to the different firmware revisions.
For ML 1.1.2 was the best thing that could happen as it unifies the base. Unfortuntely Canon never released a 1.1.1 firmware for the public and I bet they won't make it available also upon your request. Downgrading is unfortunately not possible.

The 1.1.2 changelog didn't contain any changes listing modifications to focus features or facetracking. There has also nothing changed when ML was published for the 1.1.2. No features added / modfied / removed. Just the update necessary to support 1.1.2.

maybe try to reset all camera settings (if not aready done) and retry?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: andy kh on January 02, 2017, 03:32:23 PM
Ok wil try resetting tomoro
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 03, 2017, 03:02:48 AM
hey Nick help
Looks like Dfort needs a 70D build for 10-12bit raw.
I tested his build but its MLV files do not work with mlv_dump does or the previewer.
Give his build a try, I found hack error when I recorded video as well.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: andy kh on January 03, 2017, 03:53:05 AM
I also tried dford's build. When i preview with raw2cdng , all i can see is noise
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: lozw on January 03, 2017, 09:17:10 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on January 02, 2017, 02:29:05 PM
Did you try one of those "camera shutter count" online services? What do they show to you?

I tried the ones that allow you to upload an image and they extract it from the exif, but they all report the 70D as not supported.

I didn't trust any of the downloadable utilities.

So I just wondered whether other ML 70D users here saw with their cameras? Does the shutter count look correct?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on January 03, 2017, 09:36:46 AM
I never noticed unreliable shutter count info on my cameras. Also I use photoshop to verify EXIf info as well as "EOS Camera Info" on Windows. You sure that your camera was 0 shutter count when you bought it  :P :o ??
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: andy kh on January 03, 2017, 03:37:59 PM
Done resetting, now face tracking works well
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: lozw on January 04, 2017, 11:35:32 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on January 03, 2017, 09:36:46 AM
I never noticed unreliable shutter count info on my cameras. Also I use photoshop to verify EXIf info as well as "EOS Camera Info" on Windows.
Thanks.
I downloaded EOS Camera Info from sourceforge as I was a bit happier about trusting that.

And sure enough it reported the shutter count as 19k.

So I must be grossly underestimating just how many images I have deleted.  :-[

Also I guess the image number probably threw me - doesn't it start back at 0 after 9999?
Hence why the lastest images have something like 8800 - so that would indicate something more like the 19k

Quote
You sure that your camera was 0 shutter count when you bought it  :P :o ??

Not unless Canon took lots of test shots at the factory. It was purchased brand new  :)

So at least that is cleared up now.  Looks like ML is accurate.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: bakersdozen on January 04, 2017, 11:39:07 AM
Good news for everybody

Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on January 04, 2017, 12:05:30 PM
which news are you referring to?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: bakersdozen on January 04, 2017, 12:13:55 PM
The fact that ML is accurate

Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: lojzik on January 06, 2017, 07:01:05 AM
what is blocking approval PR for 70D into unified?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: a1ex on January 06, 2017, 08:57:00 AM
Detailed reports that should let me (without a 70D in my hands) know everything is alright. Check first post and first item from this sticky (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12657). For example, did any of you run the built-in tests (selftest module, api_test.lua)?

I also want to fix the raw overlays in photo mode, or just disable all of them. Currently there is a workaround for zebras only.

Check the PR page as well for a few more suggestions.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: lojzik on January 06, 2017, 10:34:48 AM
luatest.log: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzVC_OegsMJXbXI0a3ZxWjBicEk/view?usp=sharing
stub api test:
  with lua enabled: err 70: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzVC_OegsMJXbkwzQndORE1tMFE/view?usp=sharing
  without lua: 6402 passed, 0 failed 
Generates "quick test" some protokol? (edit: after some time it stops on some photo preview)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on January 06, 2017, 11:04:45 AM
@a1ex: +1 for disabling the raw overlays completely. No problems when LumaFast is used - neither in QR mode nor in LV.
+1 also for some 100D love.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on January 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Just compiled a fresh build based upon the latest 10/12bit raw recording (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5601.0) changes. Have fun:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRVmtWUTFCSVZZcVU/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: XsMagical on January 06, 2017, 12:52:39 PM
Can't wait to give it a try. Thanks!

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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: X-STATE on January 06, 2017, 01:22:51 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on January 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Just compiled a fresh build based upon the latest 10/12bit raw recording (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5601.0) changes. Have fun:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRRHZDR20xSEZ4RGM/view?usp=sharing
not one of the options for recording 14,12 or 10 do not work correctly
when I play file on the body i can see only vertical stripes
https://yadi.sk/i/sp4YO2MD37KLz3
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: lojzik on January 06, 2017, 01:23:47 PM
luatest - ok
stub api test - ok
SRM memory test - if I make some pictures during test, I get Err 70 or Err 80 (my first run of this test, maybe in the previous version)
Err 70

ASSERT: GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk( GetFirstMemChunk( pMem1AllocateListItem->hMemSuite ) ) == pMessage->pAddress
at SrmActionMemory.c:1862, task RscMgr
lv:0 mode:2


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2017Jan06.70D112
Mercurial changeset   : d6d295491c1e (raw_video_10bit_12bit_70D) tip
Built on 2017-01-06 11:28:24 UTC by ml@ml-VirtualBox.
Free Memory  : 226K + 1809K

Err 80

ASSERT: 0
at ./Capture/Capture.c:522, task EventMgr
lv:0 mode:2


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2017Jan06.70D112
Mercurial changeset   : d6d295491c1e (raw_video_10bit_12bit_70D) tip
Built on 2017-01-06 11:28:24 UTC by ml@ml-VirtualBox.
Free Memory  : 224K + 1836K
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on January 06, 2017, 01:37:24 PM
Quote from: X-STATE on January 06, 2017, 01:22:51 PM
not one of the options for recording 14,12 or 10 do not work correctly
when I play file on the body i can see only vertical stripes
https://yadi.sk/i/sp4YO2MD37KLz3

Try on your PC/Mac and only use MLVFS with that. In body won't work atm.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Frarike on January 06, 2017, 01:50:04 PM
Does updating to 112 reset the boot-flag?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on January 06, 2017, 01:53:55 PM
I am unsure. It shouldn't. But you are safe. 112 contains the ML-SETUP.FIR to enable/disable whenever you want
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Frarike on January 06, 2017, 02:03:46 PM
Was still enabled FYI
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on January 06, 2017, 02:20:40 PM
X-State can you give it another try. I updated my post with a new link.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: X-STATE on January 06, 2017, 04:38:14 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on January 06, 2017, 02:20:40 PM
X-State can you give it another try. I updated my post with a new link.
that something is wrong with the maximum resolution
files
https://yadi.sk/d/H83Foyc937MaD6
https://yadi.sk/i/EpLFKO7b37MaUm
https://yadi.sk/i/jFdr3xrJ37Maut
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: pontius on January 06, 2017, 04:42:09 PM
Nikfreak, just tested your Jan06 build.
First one produced just garbage on all bit depths and updated build is pretty much the same.
And resolution got limited to width 832 on updated build. I'm using MLVFS & Darktable.
Here is a sample what it looks like.
(https://s29.postimg.org/onteenyw5/cap_2017_01_06_17_35_40.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on January 06, 2017, 04:52:07 PM
No problem, let's try a last time this one:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRYkNjbTZvVFZ0NjQ/view?usp=sharing

If it fails then you have to wait until I return.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: pontius on January 06, 2017, 05:25:27 PM
Now it works, at least for me. Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on January 06, 2017, 05:31:48 PM
Nice to hear. Wishing you fun!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: andy kh on January 06, 2017, 05:59:33 PM
10/14 bit works but 12 bit dont work in my test. i can see all black in 12 bit recording. will do more test and report here.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Frarike on January 06, 2017, 06:08:03 PM
All three work for me!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: andy kh on January 07, 2017, 06:20:35 AM
Quote from: andy kh on January 06, 2017, 05:59:33 PM
i can see all black in 12 bit recording. will do more test and report here.

its not black in all shots. i get black video in some shots no matter i shoot in 10 bit or 12 bit but most of the shots are fine
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 08, 2017, 03:46:01 AM
The raw_twk.mo is missing and needed to preview MLV 10/12 bit raw clips on the LCD. 
Ive taken one from Dec 23 Dfort 70D build, which works when copied into your ML module folder and enabled:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/arb43xa6svvjljr/AACyi51IrJfMGs3ZQ8EC_6hOa?dl=0
Does not reliably work.

Also need some clarity on the modules to load during testing.

Alex alluded that raw_rec and mlv_raw should not be loaded together. 

Is Lua.mo needed to test 10/12bit raw?


Notice 1920 @2:35, 24fps, 5X mode,  only works with Canon preview, got 440 frames (18s) at 10bit.


1824 @2:35, 24fps, regular mode max. res., at 10bit is near continuous (tested for 1min 41s but could have gone longer) - Yahoo!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Nexster on January 11, 2017, 09:21:41 AM
ML settings menu flickers on Canon 70D. It's very annoying. I'm eagerly waiting for next ML release with fix for this.
(I'm on canon firmware 1.1.2 and 26th Oct version of ML)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Roberto Mena on January 12, 2017, 08:02:05 PM
What is the RAW video recording time limit with the 70D because of its buffer size? With my 7D its the 4G limit which is way enough time to record a film scene with. But I know that most Canon models can only record about 10-15 seconds of continuous RAW video, does the 70D also have this time limit issue?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 12, 2017, 09:32:53 PM
@Roberto Mena Re: 70D RAW video recording time limit -- Not if you set the card into exFAT and record in certain settings that allows for continuous recordings.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Roberto Mena on January 12, 2017, 09:58:34 PM
@ DeafEyeJedi, this also pertains to the 70D? This guy on this youtube video says he can only get about 6-9 seconds of RAW video recording (close to 1080p) with his 70D and he even shows a chart that shows resolution vs time record times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3kStLheFxE
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 12, 2017, 10:08:25 PM
The chart visible at 11:19 seems to be correct and does not contradict anything DeafEyeJedi wrote.
What DeafEyeJedi wrote does not contradict anything shown in this chart.

Please be more specific when asking. You just asked about record times without giving any other (limiting) factors.
And 7D does seamless MLV recording well beyond 4 GB. But records exceeding 4 GB will consist of several chunks up to 4 GB in size.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 13, 2017, 04:22:51 AM
Just wondering what's up with CONFIG_EDMAC_RAW_SLURP

I checked the commits and it was disabled July 7, 2015.  It states it causes Hot Pixels.
Is there any new test build we can use to check it out??? Any tests that Nik needs done to advance it?
It was pre-unified base merge and it seems to be crucial for 10/12 bit raw builds?


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on January 13, 2017, 08:48:40 AM
The 10/12bit build I shared already has it enabled. What's the exact problem atm? In 2015 it was disabled again after some test builds as users reported sorts of "hot pixel" with it. As per the latest changes (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/778/raw-fixes-part-3) most new models now use the same channel.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 13, 2017, 10:42:59 AM
@ShootMeAlready -- Which build did you use for this? Be sure to try and use his latest from here (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg177695#msg177695here).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Gyroskop on January 15, 2017, 06:57:52 AM
Hello! Thanks to all people who make ML!  :)
14/12/10 bit recording work great. No problem with MLVFS and DaVinci.

And some tests:

MLV sound on, overlays on, 25 fps, 10 bit, SanDisk 95MB/s:
1824*1026 (16*9) - 15s
1824*986 (1.85*1) - 18s
1824*912 (2*1) - 25s
1824*830 (2.20*1) - 45s
1824*776 (2.35*1) - 1m 22s

MLV sound on, overlays on, 25 fps, 12 bit, SanDisk 95MB/s:
1824*776 (2.35*1) - 23s

MLV sound on, overlays on, 24 fps, 10 bit, SanDisk 95MB/s:
1824*776 (2.35*1) - 2m 59s (strange, because according to writing speed there are no skip frame)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 17, 2017, 03:38:17 AM
Gyro, what did you process your files with?
mlv_dump or another?

Post a link to any 10bit 1min+, and I notice with 12bit 2:35 @  24fps I was able to get about 28s.

Want to see how hot pixels are doing?  Try an ISO above 400 to check on that.

Are you seeing the MLV clips in the LCD?  I was not.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: lmixon77 on January 17, 2017, 09:26:53 PM
I have been using this build for several weeks now on my 70D. I have used Magic Lantern on my T2i for several years now. The 70D build works great. When do you think it will become part of the regular nightly builds?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: lojzik on January 18, 2017, 02:33:24 PM
some tests (build from 2017-01-06 15:45:12):
lua api test - ok
stub api test - ok
quick test - ok edit: no error, no visible result, ends on some photo preview
small-block malloc test - ok (expected error in menu)
memory leak test - ok
redraw test - blank screen
rectangle test - ok
menu backend test - blank screen, status display blinks
srm memory test - with photo taking - err 80 (after two photos), without photo taking ok

this and older builds: sometimes is not possible switch on camera, I have remove card a battery for a few seconds, battery is sometimes discharged. random occurrence, not tested without ML.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: a1ex on January 20, 2017, 04:10:38 PM
Reminder: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9673.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 21, 2017, 01:45:06 AM
So I tested with Jan06 build from Nik, 10 bit max. res. at 24fps.

The LCD liveview only works in Canon mode. All others Grayscale, & Hacked(s) dont support 10bit.
The LCD review clip, does not work only vertical coloured lines for 1824x776 (2:35 @ 24 fps).

Same for 1920x818.  I notice when I put camera in 5X mode, that fps goes from 24fps to 30fps. There is no way to set fps back to 24!

Not sure why some want to add this to the nightlies??? Am I missing something?

With my 600D I had to add raw_tweak.mo to get LCD review screen to work with 10bit raw video???

Can use mlv_dmp to get DNG. Resolve will work with the DNG files but AE and Ppro wont.
Was going to try Adobe raw converter to see if it helps with the DNG.
Any success with AE or PPro on 10bit 1824x776 DNG files?
 
Title: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 21, 2017, 10:14:28 PM
Quote from: a1ex on January 20, 2017, 04:10:38 PM
Reminder: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9673.0

Done (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9673.msg178895#msg178895Done).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: j4cker on January 25, 2017, 08:17:50 PM
    Overlays
    -Zebras: 100% OK
    -Focus Peak: difficult to set properly, but OK (not as good as sony alpha default one, but similar)
    - ....
    Shoot
    -Intervalometer:

#ERR1 impossible to start by half push of release shutter, because it overtake routine and make just one shoot. So only posibility to start continual pictures taking is "start after menu close"
Not only my problem: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12523.msg145276#msg145276
#ERR2 When first Full res dng is taken, display goes black, impossible to interrupt back to system. (every button just make system busy - shown on the top display) Only way is to switch camera of and on again and immediately pres button where menu is binded or some another one to stop taking pictures.
Low resolution works perfectly, still picture on the screen, messages inform that file has been saved are shown everything OK, only FullRes does not work to me
#ERR3 During listing menu, defaul liveview without any HUD is flashing with period 7s (once per 7 seconds)

    -Bracketing: Not tested
    -.....
    Included Modules
    - Raw_rec: Not tested
    - autoexpo: Not tested
    - ....
   

70D 1.1.2 user
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: ryken on January 26, 2017, 12:29:11 AM
Hello sorry if this question has been answer but im new and just downloaded the new build for the canon 70d with the new canon firmware and im getting the flickering effect on the lcd screen. Has there been a fix for that? thanks for the great work on this project :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 29, 2017, 02:07:39 PM
First page, first post -> Section "What's not working" -> First item.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 30, 2017, 04:51:32 PM
      @Ryken

   Give a more detailed description of the "Flickering Effect" You are seeing ~

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 30, 2017, 05:56:32 PM
Any progress on 10 bit raw, 5X mode, as we really need to be able to set 24 fps, to get max. resolution/duration.

currently when select 5X mode, it jumps from 24 fps to 30fps
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Canniballissimo on February 01, 2017, 04:28:17 PM
ShootMeAlready, why you don't use special settings for zoom in the camera menu?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on February 01, 2017, 10:58:53 PM
Canni

If you want to reach 1920 or 2k, then you have to use 5X mode on the 70D.
For some reason when you select 5X, it jumps fps to 30 (or 60fps if your in a 60p canon setting).

At 1920 @ 2.35, if it maintained 24 fps, you could extend your record time to 17.5s, instead of 14s (in 30 fps).
You also get 2k @ 2.35 res. for pan type shots (where high res. is important).
Your highest res. will always be with 24fps.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: MAHADI_HASSAN on February 02, 2017, 10:24:49 PM
Why don't have fps overright on Canon 70d ????
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on February 04, 2017, 10:08:41 PM
Ok partially solved one problem.  For 10 bit raw, if you want to have liveview playback working
you need to copy raw_twk.mo to your ML->modules folder on your card.
*** It seems to work for one pass, but 2nd clip it hangs your camera ***
*** Looks like that its not initializing properly for 2nd clip ***

here is a link for those who want to download raw_twk:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/arb43xa6svvjljr/AACyi51IrJfMGs3ZQ8EC_6hOa?dl=0

The modules you need to enable include
file_man
mlv_play
mlv_rec
mlv_send
raw_rec
raw_twk

pic_view    -- is needed for still pics.

However does not work for 12bit raw (perhaps an overload occurs???).  Still not ready for nightlies with this bug.

Still would like one more crucial fix to make this better, really need the 24 fps in 5X mode to enable highest res.
The other fix for same is variable frame rate for all modes, this is even better because now one could use frame rate for time-lapse video.

Perhaps I will try to build & debug, as this variable frame rate seems quite close. 
Need to free up some time.  Would also like to compare against other variable frame rate implementations.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: j4cker on February 06, 2017, 02:25:33 PM
Another "problem" with silent shooting - in compare with classical photo with shutter - output from image liveview buffer is much more brighter, with less contrast, is it correct at such a big difference?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 06, 2017, 03:54:06 PM
Unprocessed samples, please!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on February 06, 2017, 08:23:00 PM
Quote from: ShootMeAlready on February 04, 2017, 10:08:41 PM
....Still not ready for nightlies with this bug.

I do not agree. raw_twk was never part of any of my provided builds. The features that are enabled in my PR indeed do work.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: kalamuni on February 10, 2017, 10:03:36 AM
out of 9, i can see only 2 mlv i shot.
Everything is recorded in mov format.
Hoping to see the final ML version for my 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on February 12, 2017, 02:27:58 AM
The basic issue with 10/12 bit raw video is that its not usable for a project unless
you can preview the clip on set.  This can be done with a 3X loupe off of LCD once
raw_twk (or its new improved replacement) supports preview. 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: MattNoir on February 12, 2017, 03:48:10 PM
Hi!

I would like to ask whether it would be possible to toggle format settings based on wifi status.
To get you in the picture - I use thethered capture with RAW+JPEG and only JPEGs are sent to computer, to check photo in real time. But when not shooting home I use only RAW.
So if ML could read status of wifi (on/off) and depending on that change RAW/RAW+JPEG, it would be awesome
(No, I am not lazy, just keep forgetting to change settings)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: StanleyIC on February 14, 2017, 05:51:56 AM
Hi,

I'm kinda new to Magic Lantern, and I've just installed ML into my 70D.

When I'm using it on live view, the ML part kinda "stuttered"/"getting hiccups" as shown on the video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgq3Vubld1o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgq3Vubld1o)

Is this normal? or it's something that should/could be fixed?

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: andy kh on February 14, 2017, 09:00:21 AM
@stanleyIC its normal for 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: kalamuni on February 17, 2017, 12:13:05 PM


"
I check my camera model 70D everyday expecting to appear in "Supported Cameras" list..........am waiting  :) :)"

Edit by moderator.

Posting in bold and blue is kind of disrespectful, so I have kindly removed this for you. As for your question, is done when it's done!  However feel free to contribute by getting involved! 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: OlRivrRat on February 19, 2017, 02:42:33 AM
      @Kalamuni

   M'L' Has Been Functioning Quite Nicely on the 70D for a little over 2Years now -

Give it whirl, I suspect You'll Love it !

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: kalamuni on February 19, 2017, 03:35:00 PM
Sorry for writing in a disrespectful manner

I have tried ML on my 70d. I shot 9 videos (mlv) . But i found only 3. Its too buggy. The screen keep flickering and distracts. It will stop shooting video after 3 seconds .....and than you have to take ur battery out switch ur camera on thn maybe it records. My camera shoots MOVs only in the end. They are heavily compressed files. And so....the whole process consumes a lot of time, that i have decided to sell my 70d and save money to purchase 5D mk3 in future.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: stephaud on February 21, 2017, 05:21:44 PM
Hi !

I wanted to know if ML provides a clean HDMI out for canon 70D ?

And what about this progress (see link below), it will be possible to record raw at 1920*1080p, i mean "almost" continuous ?
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=18443 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=18443)

Thanks.

P.S : sorry for my english !
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: kalamuni on February 22, 2017, 12:26:25 PM
hallo  :) :)
i want to thank MagicLantern am able to shoot raw on my 70D.
Copying a link of my video

https://youtu.be/Rupg1XKEbXc.

i am more than happy believe me. i was so frustrated was planning to
sell my 70D in a day or two but the final try was like....on the target  :)
Now i dont care about FPS override.
30 is great :)
thank you again ML
:)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on February 23, 2017, 02:07:49 AM
Hey Kalamuni

14 bit raw video is continuous for 720p at 24 fps.
So fill up your sd card. Good for vlogging & demo clips.

10bit raw, once it gets LCD review working can shoot 90% of 1920 anamorphic (2:35)at 24 fps.

Until 80D gets the ML treatment, the 70D is best aps-c for raw video. 

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: kalamuni on February 24, 2017, 07:45:55 AM
If  i am using 2 or more sd cards, pls tell me if they all must be ML installed ??
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 24, 2017, 07:57:08 AM
Top of page -> User Guide -> Install Guide
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: OlRivrRat on February 24, 2017, 05:46:41 PM
      @Kalamuni

   What Walter said + Go to My -> Reply #2377 on: March 19, 2016, 05:12:21 AM »

for the Method that I prefer to use ~

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: videophile on February 25, 2017, 10:24:36 PM
Dear Nikfreak, I have been using ML on my 70D since day one (ok, I waited a couple of weeks to let other's cameras explode first  ;D), and I just wanted to congratulate you for the amazing work.

My favorite function is the "one click to full zoom" in image review. My Canon 17-55 f/2.8 USM misses focus from time to time, and I appreciate being able to check quickly for focus. Although this ML feature wasn't probably the most time consuming one, it has been the most useful for me. Being quicker means that I can concentrate more on my subject rather than on the camera and get some shots that would have been lost otherwise.

I also like a lot the dot tune function for MFA. I even managed to use it handheld with acceptable results!

The various tweaks of the display in liveview and image review are also very convenient.

I do shoot video only on occasions, so I haven't used the raw video capability of ML. Recently, out of curiosity, I did a test and I was shocked to see how more detailed the footage was, even as compared to the highest resolution mode provided by Canon.

I just don't understand why Canon hasn't integrated this function in their software. If ML was a pay option, I am sure they would sell it like hot cakes. By the way, they have sold cameras because of ML.

So no feature request nor bug report in this message, just a big THANK YOU!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: khwaja on February 25, 2017, 11:02:51 PM
Need urgent help. I have installed ML on my 70d. Used dual iso functionality couple of times. Today I got some error. Nothing happens even after shutting down camera. I tried removing and putting battery back in. It is not turning on. I am not even using ML functionality today. I am just doing normal shooting without ML. It is dead. Any help in bring my camera back to life. Please help.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: andy kh on February 26, 2017, 04:09:06 AM
Have you tried without memory card? If not try
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: khwaja on February 26, 2017, 07:34:50 AM
Hi Andy,
Thanks for the feedback. I was able to restart camera by removing card. But I ran into this problem again few mores times with 2 different cards. While using camera, sometimes camera hangs while writing to card (red light on).  It shows Err 80 on top lcd screen. I am able to restart by removing card and battery after some time. Now it is again dead completely. Not sure what I am doing wrong or is it a lens. I am using Sigma 17-50mm and 105mm macro lens.

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: neige on February 26, 2017, 05:45:37 PM
hello everybody :)

Same here, like khwaja. when i shot in Raw video, i have some freeze, i can't make nothing after, with or without battery, with or without card.

my Dslr stay "die" during about 15 minutes, after it's come back.

i can't use my DSLR max 30 seconde in raw video, after it's crash :(, sometime that crash just in the ML menu


-- after go to the menu (the canon menu, not ML) and make "format card" no more problemes today and that keep ML

hope that can help anyone


neige



Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on February 27, 2017, 01:50:59 AM
Ensure you have video switch set, and card (min. 40 MB/s write speed) has enough space.
Dual ISO does not work for video.
RAW video crashes the camera (need to pull battery out, wait 30s) if you use raw_twk.mo.
RAW video (14 bit) varies how it stops based on resoution and and fps.
After you hit stop stop record or it stops because of skipped frame, you have to wait for the camera to finish its processing, else you get weird behaviour.

To get most from RAW video (14 bit) continuous, ensure you dont exceed 720p /24fps. ISO 400 max.
The highest useful 14 bit raw resolution of 1600 @2:35 /24fps, and it will run about 40s or more.  ISO 400 max.
If you use higher resolutions you get clip times less than 30s, which tends to limit things.
5X mode supports 1080p and even 2k but you lose AF tracking, it forces 30fps, and the clips are less than 5s.
The best video low light mode is H264, flat profile pic shot flat, ALL-I at 1080p 30fps, ISO 1600 max.


   

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: khwaja on February 27, 2017, 06:37:28 AM
Hi Neige,
I have this problem on Saturday morning. After few hours, it worked again. Then I uninstalled ML and did low level formatting. This issue happened few times again on Saturday evening. I tried switching on camera few times on Sunday. Nothing is happening so far. It is dead.
Don't know what to do at this point in time.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: andy kh on February 27, 2017, 10:19:58 AM
@khwaja have you check your battery if it is ok?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Andikiwi on February 28, 2017, 12:11:43 PM
Hi guys, just would like to know when do you think the complete version of ML will be ready for the 70D? Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: neige on February 28, 2017, 02:07:29 PM
probleme come back again, like you.

thank ShootMeAlready for your help !
where i can disable raw_twk.mo ? i don't find it in my modules or in the advanced raw video option
i use a Lexar 64GB / 1000x
720p/24fps and ISO 100 

thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Canniballissimo on February 28, 2017, 10:33:08 PM
please answer the question. I shot MLV by small files for 30 seconds. 40 minutes later the camera began to record video at a very low speed, about 6 megabytes instead of 38. I tried another card, which had the same low speed and there were no records on it. After 4 hours, I came home and tried again a record. The speed is normal again! As I understand it, is to protect it from overheating. Yes? How do I disable it?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on February 28, 2017, 11:07:10 PM
Camera would shutdown if it overheated. Your issue was/is another and I never seen any reports like yours before. You need to find a way to reproduce it.
@khwaja are you sure that dualiso (which is only active in photo mode on 70D) caused your issue? Or just a guess?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Audionut on March 01, 2017, 09:03:14 AM
Quote from: Andikiwi on February 28, 2017, 12:11:43 PM
Hi guys, just would like to know when do you think the complete version of ML will be ready for the 70D? Thanks

http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/faq#any_progress_on_xyz

Also read the other FAQ's on that page underneath the one linked.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: OlRivrRat on March 01, 2017, 06:09:30 PM
             @Andikiwi

          It May Already Be ~ Or ~ It Will Be When It Is ~

       I'm curious to know what You would consider to be a Complete ML.

For now I would suggest that You Load, Use & Enjoy All the Wondrous Power that the

Wizards of ML have made available to You & Your 70D & Observe & Be Patient ~~

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Starmaker5280 on March 13, 2017, 04:08:03 AM
Is there a 1.1.12a? I picked up this 12, and my camera said it was looking for a 12a version.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: gbk on March 13, 2017, 06:29:12 PM
Every time when I take a photo I've got "raw error falling back to yuv overlays". Why?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Frarike on March 13, 2017, 07:27:13 PM
Quote from: gbk on March 13, 2017, 06:29:12 PM
Every time when I take a photo I've got "raw error falling back to yuv overlays". Why?

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg175917#msg175917
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: gbk on March 13, 2017, 09:47:12 PM
Quote from: Frarike on March 13, 2017, 07:27:13 PM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg175917#msg175917

So everybody has this problem?
Can we at least hide this error message?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: pmus2017 on March 14, 2017, 11:53:06 AM
Hi. Big thanks to all those who develop ML. Cracking tool. Just bought the 70d and having issue with ML exposure tools. In zebras and clip warning in histogram, they are only working at certain apertures. On certain apertures (different for different Sigma lenses) they don't display despite having displayed on smaller apertures ( so should be worse ). If I click through apertures from largest to smallest, every three or four settings they vanish then return as I move to the next  ( until exposure gets down to level where they should not be showing). It is identical issue with both tools at the same time. Any advice appreciated. Can't see this in the list of known bugs at top of thread.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on March 14, 2017, 01:46:09 PM
Any Canon original lens at your hand to verify?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: pmus2017 on March 14, 2017, 01:56:55 PM
I do but problem seems intermittent as not doing it now. Was the same yesterday. Did it for a while then resolved itself. Will try to figure out when it happens & whether there is anything I am doing that may trigger it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: offshore on March 17, 2017, 11:17:30 AM
Hi! I also have the same problem .... Error Raw... and more taking photos in the app dual iso cr2hdr for osx returns me error:

--------------------------------------

cr2hdr // Beta 2.0


Input File: IMG_3953.CR2
Error: RAW ABOUT INJECTION FAILED Logfile: IMG_3953.txt

THE END
-------------------------------------

log txt:

"Cr2hdr: a post-processing tool for Dual ISO images

Last update: 2f4e2df on 02/12/2013 17:45:36 UTC by alex:
cr2hdr: fix DNG compression under Windows

Active options:
--amaze-edge: use a temporary demosaic step (Amaze) Followed by edge-directed interpolation (default)
--cs2x2: apply 2x2 chroma smoothing and aliased in noisy areas (default)

Input File: IMG_3952.CR2
No room model found with id 0x325 "

what can I do?

thanks for reply...

Roberto.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 18, 2017, 08:26:08 AM
Outdated. Download latest package.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: stephaud on March 20, 2017, 06:49:56 PM
Hi !
Could you suggest me a good choice for an external monitor working with ML please (hdmi In/Out, 7", focus peaking, 1:1 pixel, histogram...) ?
Thanks !
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Frarike on March 20, 2017, 09:55:11 PM
Quote from: stephaud on March 20, 2017, 06:49:56 PM
Hi !
Could you suggest me a good choice for an external monitor working with ML please (hdmi In/Out, 7", focus peaking, 1:1 pixel, histogram...) ?
Thanks !

Not here, not relevant.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: stephaud on March 21, 2017, 11:37:46 AM
Quote from: Frarike on March 20, 2017, 09:55:11 PM
Not here, not relevant.
Sorry, but behind my question i would like to know if there is limitation to use an external monitor with this beta release compared to a ML supported camera like a 5D III ?
Thanks for your answer.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: pmus2017 on March 21, 2017, 12:44:26 PM
Quote from: pmus2017 on March 14, 2017, 11:53:06 AM
Hi. Big thanks to all those who develop ML. Cracking tool. Just bought the 70d and having issue with ML exposure tools. In zebras and clip warning in histogram, they are only working at certain apertures. On certain apertures (different for different Sigma lenses) they don't display despite having displayed on smaller apertures ( so should be worse ). If I click through apertures from largest to smallest, every three or four settings they vanish then return as I move to the next  ( until exposure gets down to level where they should not be showing). It is identical issue with both tools at the same time. Any advice appreciated. Can't see this in the list of known bugs at top of thread.

OK I have identified when it occurs now - if I am on the native ISOs ( 160, 320, 640, e.t.c ) then it always happens. As I increase/decrease the aperture, every few stops the zebras & clip warnings disappear despite obvious clipping in the image. I have tried it on both Sigma & Canon lenses and the same problems occur with both types of lens. If i choose 100 ISO or any non native setting the problem does not appear. Obviously I can stick to the non-native ISOs but of course I want to ONLY use native ISOs to reduce noise!

Any suggestions?
Thnx
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: dmilligan on March 21, 2017, 03:14:20 PM
You have a misunderstanding of "native ISO", please read:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9867.0
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10111.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: pmus2017 on March 21, 2017, 03:33:52 PM
OK well as I don't have a Phd in digital imagery that didn't really make a lot of sense, but I think you are trying to indicate that this assertion that 160 multiples are the native ISOs of Canon cameras is wrong ( despite the fact that I have read it / seen it mentioned in many places online ). That being so, I can of course avoid the 160 multiples that are causing the issue which is great, but the problem still stands.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: a1ex on March 21, 2017, 04:09:26 PM
@pmus2017: does the raw histogram change in movie mode between ISO 160, 200 and 250?

It should stay unchanged at these 3 values. If it changes, that's a bug (and its most obvious side effect would be missing clipping indicators at ISO 160 multiples).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: pmus2017 on March 21, 2017, 04:16:40 PM
Quote from: a1ex on March 21, 2017, 04:09:26 PM
@pmus2017: does the raw histogram change in movie mode between ISO 160, 200 and 250?

It should stay unchanged at these 3 values. If it changes, that's a bug (and its most obvious side effect would be missing clipping indicators at ISO 160 multiples).
I am not shooting in RAW & I believe you cannot use the RAW histogram unless you are? I am using these indicators in movie mode though
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: a1ex on March 21, 2017, 04:29:50 PM
That's correct. The easiest way to check for this bug is in movie mode, with some raw recording module enabled (but the same bug can affect raw overlays in photo mode LiveView as well; it's just harder to diagnose there).

This was (hopefully) fixed in all models recently (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/778) (until then, some models worked, others not, and it wasn't exactly the kind of bug that gets reported often).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: pmus2017 on March 21, 2017, 04:42:30 PM
Quote from: a1ex on March 21, 2017, 04:29:50 PM
That's correct. The easiest way to check for this bug is in movie mode, with some raw recording module enabled (but the same bug can affect raw overlays in photo mode LiveView as well; it's just harder to diagnose there).

This was (hopefully) fixed in all models recently (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/778) (until then, some models worked, others not, and it wasn't exactly the kind of bug that gets reported often).
OK so you mean does the histogram shape stay identical when switching between those three ISOs? I can try switching on RAW but on the 70D when you press the ISO button a canon slider menu appears to let you select the ISO setting and the histogram disappears. It is therefore almost impossible to accurately compare histograms between ISO settings. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: a1ex on March 21, 2017, 04:43:30 PM
Static scene + screenshots.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: pmus2017 on March 21, 2017, 04:52:41 PM
well I cannot see any difference between the three settings. The clip warnings appear to keep the same values across the three as well. Certainly no obvious change to my eye
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: a1ex on March 21, 2017, 05:03:42 PM
Then you may want to provide some screenshots with your bug report. If you take them in photo mode, make sure you include a raw histogram.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: pmus2017 on March 21, 2017, 07:05:47 PM
It is really not clear where to enter a bug report. At the top of this thread it talks alot about "filling in NOT OK" but doesnt say what that means nor link to anywhere?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on March 21, 2017, 08:03:35 PM
like this:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg173584#msg173584
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 21, 2017, 08:22:14 PM
Which build were you using @pmus2017?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: pmus2017 on March 21, 2017, 08:46:46 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on March 21, 2017, 08:03:35 PM
like this:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg173584#msg173584
What I have to go through every feature to see if it works? Sorry don't have time to do that & don't use many features. Happy to give any more info needed about this specific problem though.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: pmus2017 on March 21, 2017, 08:49:12 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on March 21, 2017, 08:22:14 PM
Which build were you using @pmus2017?
Nightly.2016Oct26.70D112  (the one at the top of the thread?)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on March 21, 2017, 09:00:31 PM
can you post a link to your screenshot(s) of your problem as requested please:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg181670#msg181670
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: pmus2017 on March 22, 2017, 11:12:28 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on March 21, 2017, 09:00:31 PM
can you post a link to your screenshot(s) of your problem as requested please:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg181670#msg181670

Happy to help but when you say post a link - where do I upload the screenshots? Also please be specific about what you would like to see - shots that show the problem happening, or that test that raw histogram issue with the three different ISOs?
Thnx
Title: REC-PicStyle
Post by: Anantajit on March 23, 2017, 12:57:36 PM
Hi. This is my first post here.
Each time the camera is restarted REC-PicStyle swaps picture style only from the second clip recorded and onward.
The first time recording after each restart will always use whatever picture style is chosen as the "standard" one.
Thanks for all your great work!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: christhechris on March 23, 2017, 04:34:38 PM
Again for better understanding:
Is ML increasing the Bitrate? Is the Video "RAW"? For 70D I can't setup the CBR (that I can also find in the description)
Will I have a better Videoquality compared to the standard 70D Firmware?


Best regards
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Artemy on March 26, 2017, 03:33:21 AM
Hello. Does video shooting with bitrate for example 0,4 works with automatic restart without issues now? How long is the gap between? what about overheating?
Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Anantajit on March 26, 2017, 05:03:49 PM
Not a big issue but it's an issue that time you forget the first recording and mess up your video with the wrong picstyle :)
I would really like to see the picture style change as soon as you flip the switch to video mode instead. That way we can preview the scene in Live View with the correct picture style from the start, before actual recording starts.
That's a suggestion for upcoming versions if it's possible. Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Andikiwi on March 28, 2017, 12:28:24 AM
@OlRivrRat

Hey mate, thanks for the reply. This is a first for me putting ML on a camera, so I wasn't sure if it were safe to use unless its been completed (if that even exists), but your reply has reassured me, so thanks :) will give it a go and post on here my feedback and if I come across any issues.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Artemy on March 29, 2017, 07:31:55 PM
How to change bitrate to 0,4?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 29, 2017, 07:33:40 PM
First page of this thread offers some infos ...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on March 29, 2017, 10:02:21 PM
Overheat depends on ambient temp & throughput of video.
You can use astronomer's tricks to basically cool it when shooting for long periods of time.
They put it in a kind of cooler that supports shooting.

For most users ISO 800 & above you will start to get Hot Pixels.  This happens before overheats.

However ISO=100, and 14 bit raw video 720 @ 2:39 24fps is continuous and that would be a valid concern.
OliverRat reports he smoked his 70D circuit board from heavy use.  I dont think there is a simple answer.
If youre a starting a project with heavy use of the 70D then I'ld have a back-up camera.  That's probably the best
advice you will get.



Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: hummersallad on March 30, 2017, 10:16:15 PM
I intent to put together a Macro fisheye solution for my 70D based on this info:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnhallmen/29958568915/#comment72157674444663445
The only annoying problem is that the live view image will be upside-down! :o
Is there a way to flip the image 180° in ML?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: christhechris on March 31, 2017, 08:59:26 AM
Is the Bitrate and the Video quality better than with the srandard 70d firmware ? In 1.1.2 i cant setup the Bitrate... will the footage be raw? There is no documentary about this.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on April 01, 2017, 09:36:11 PM
Lmao I booted my camera up today to test before my first concert shoot tonight and got a blue screen of death, which I wasn't familiar with magic lantern and of course had me sweating bullets. I looked it up, forgetting what day it was and apparently it only happens on April 1, which is hilarious at first but then I realized I do need to shoot later today for a job. I changed the date in the canon menu, but would if it would be possible to remove this joke mode in a future update, that would be great. Thanks!

Aidan
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: gringodelobo on April 01, 2017, 09:49:27 PM
Quote from: Guitarshredder1 on April 01, 2017, 09:36:11 PM
Lmao I booted my camera up today to test before my first concert shoot tonight and got a blue screen of death, which I wasn't familiar with magic lantern and of course had me sweating bullets. I looked it up, forgetting what day it was and apparently it only happens on April 1, which is hilarious at first but then I realized I do need to shoot later today for a job. I changed the date in the canon menu, but would if it would be possible to remove this joke mode in a future update, that would be great. Thanks!

Aidan
+1

It might have been funny, if pressing the magic lantern button once would have just disabled it, but in it's current form... not so much. Mayor stress factor.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Daniel on April 02, 2017, 12:19:07 AM
Blue Screen Crash.

I would think most people don't know about this "prank".
Why do we have to waste time trying to figure out what is wrong with the camera?
When you are using your camera and trying to get work done and this nonsense shows to make using ML not enjoyable.

This is not funny, not a joke and not professional.
Come on.  Just remove this stupid prank. Not funny, Ugh...

No I don't want to change the date.  Dates on files should be correct.

Prank your web site, but not in the firmware for god sakes.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on April 02, 2017, 12:19:56 AM
Quote from: Daniel on April 02, 2017, 12:19:07 AM
Bug: Crash with Canon 70-200 2.8 II IS.

sometime I can take a few pictures then crash or crash about a 30 seconds after turning on.
blue screen stating there is a problem.  turning off takes a while for screen to turn off.

have not had this error with the Canon 24-70 2.8 MkII

I have beta-4a installed. been using ML on many different cameras over the years. first time I have got this blue screen error.

known issue?
Change the date in the canon menu, it's an April fools joke programmed into magic lantern.


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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct) Noob question.
Post by: louisjablonski on April 07, 2017, 04:11:00 PM
Hi fantastic people

Everytime i try to install the firmware my 70D says that its the incorrect firmware version..

Magic Lantern
Incorrect firmware version
Expecting a Canon 70D, with firmware version 112.
Please try installing ML for 70D 112 A
You may now remove your battery.

This may be a noob question, but yes I am a noob.. :'( Help plz.

//Louis
Title: Bug Screen menu
Post by: tyller7 on April 07, 2017, 07:25:59 PM
Hi, After install the last firmware of ML, the menu bug (flash) in all 4-5 sec.
Ive been install the canon update (1.1.2) before.
Do you know what is the problem?  Thnx

sry fo the poor quality of this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqAyULDG9Zw
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: offshore on April 08, 2017, 10:13:02 AM
Hi! I have a little problem with my camera and ML 70D fw 1.1.2 (beta 4a) ... frequently used to control EOS UTILITY wifi in the camera for astro sessions .... but when I activate the wifi and I try to take a pictures, camera freezes and shows several errors, once again error 70 error 80 sometimes freezes and I have to remove the battery to restore it anyway ... someone noticed the same problem? or is there any solution? thanks for any replies.

Roberto.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 11, 2017, 07:43:35 AM
      @ Tyller7

   Go back to My Reply #2555 on 29Jun16 ~

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Thobias on April 18, 2017, 04:51:56 PM
So... 5D3 and 700D has 4K RAW now (almost), while 70D is still in beta? Why? Just question.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: a1ex on April 18, 2017, 05:23:28 PM
Answered on the download page - each camera port is done by volunteers who own the camera, in their spare time. There's no Magic Lantern organization that does project management or gives priority to this or that camera model - it's simply the camera owners showing enough interest for implementing or porting these features (not by asking, but by updating the source code on their own initiative).

So, your question could be rephrased as "why are the 5D3 and 700D owners reverse engineering their cameras, and publishing their progress without waiting for 70D owners to catch up?!"

FYI, on 70D there are some important unresolved issues (FPS override, raw overlays in photo mode) and so far nobody found the answer to them.

Also FYI, most of the recent (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=2864.msg178662#msg178662) progress (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=18443.msg182989#msg182989) I've been (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=2388.msg183168#msg183168) posting (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=18315) lately (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=18393.0) applies to 70D and all other cameras. However, a 70D owner (I'm not one of them) has to follow the same steps and customize them for each camera (rather than complaining) - and the same is true for most other camera models.
Title: skunked in the desert on April Fools
Post by: markrmark on April 22, 2017, 05:41:50 PM
OK. So first off I am really grateful for Magic Lantern. I'm an independent filmmaker (who doesn't make any money from my films). I don't have the money for uber-expensive pro film gear. I use a 70D and a GoPro. MagicLantern has been helping me get better footage with its focus peaking and its zebras. Awesome features.

Having said that, I recently had a little scare on April Fools. I was out in the desert filming a documentary on rewilders foraging for edible roots for 10 days. About a week in we hit April 1st. We were way out in the desert, far away from civilization, cooking on a campfire and sleeping on grass mats, and digging up roots for food. I was trying my best to film the whole adventure! Keeping my camera gear clean while digging thru mud and soil is not easy.

Anyway, as we were hiking to a new camp spot, I was trying to get some shots of the landscape, and bam, blue screen of death. Reset everything, and still was happening. It was pretty ugh, trying to catch the coyotes or the frogs, or some bit of dialogue, only to hit the blue screen. The instructions seemed a little weird to me, but I tried playing with the ML settings. Then I was trying to interview my main subject in the grass, amidst the wind, and the camera kept borking out... Little did I know it was the clever work of firmware pranksters. Good one!

All in all, it was more fear that my camera was not going to hold out for the rest of the trip. I was able to get the shots with a little creative play, and was relieved when the problem did not seem to reoccur through the trip.

As I said, I'm still grateful for this amazing piece of software, which has held out really well (just not on April 1st!).

I'll post the link to the documentary short when its done.

Mark
Listening and Remembering
http://listenremember.org
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: matthieu.weber on April 27, 2017, 10:16:32 AM
Hello ML team,

First, I would like to congratulate you for your excellent firmware  :)
For me bests features are : Peak focus, movie restart + sound level meter and intervalometer.

Nevertheless, I've noticed something with this b4a release of ML which can scare 70D's owners (I couldn't find any topic about that but perhaps I dit a wrong search).

After installed and ran ML for a while, I putted a new blank 16Go SD card in my 70D, but, here noting happened : I was unable to switch on the camera !
If I remove the SD card, it started in "100% look like" Canon's firmware, and of course "No card" appears.

I tried with several (blank) SD cards : Same issue => No boot, no SD red light, nothing... even no top lcd or TFT display... Glups ! :o :-X

So I wrote back in one of my SD, ML b4a, then all worked fine again. :D

So nothing bad...  but a bit confusing and scaring.

If this is a normal behavior (not a bug), for me it should be mentioned on the how-to on this topic

(Like : Warning After installing ML, if you use a blank SD card, you won't be able to start your camera again. You must install ML files and dirs on every SD you are using with your camera while ML is installed on it").

Thanks !

Matthieu
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 27, 2017, 01:14:01 PM
Format card in cardreader, try again. Report back.

This issue will occur if you wipe ML contents (files) from a bootable card without making the card non-bootable. It's mentioned in FAQ, too.
We have no issue mixing ML and non-ML cards. Been there, done that over and over again.
Exception: An older EyeFi generation which is in fact incompatible with cam's bootflag set. Won't work until you uninstall ML from cam (=reset bootflag).

We would really love to iron out bugs without fighting FUD. Thanks!

To uninstall ML from card: Use Format option in cam with Q button pressed.
Just deleting ML files is plain wrong.


There are, however, cams showing this or similiar behauviour and not restricted to 70D. Those cams may have to be treated by a1ex himself and - hopefully - made "clean" again. See Camera Emergency Department (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=45.0) forum.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: TechnoPilot on April 27, 2017, 08:55:25 PM
Quote from: a1ex on April 18, 2017, 05:23:28 PM
Answered on the download page - each camera port is done by volunteers who own the camera, in their spare time. There's no Magic Lantern organization that does project management or gives priority to this or that camera model - it's simply the camera owners showing enough interest for implementing or porting these features (not by asking, but by updating the source code on their own initiative).

So, your question could be rephrased as "why are the 5D3 and 700D owners reverse engineering their cameras, and publishing their progress without waiting for 70D owners to catch up?!"

FYI, on 70D there are some important unresolved issues (FPS override, raw overlays in photo mode) and so far nobody found the answer to them.

Also FYI, most of the recent (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=2864.msg178662#msg178662) progress (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=18443.msg182989#msg182989) I've been (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=2388.msg183168#msg183168) posting (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=18315) lately (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=18393.0) applies to 70D and all other cameras. However, a 70D owner (I'm not one of them) has to follow the same steps and customize them for each camera (rather than complaining) - and the same is true for most other camera models.
Hey Alex,

While I understand that these features haven't been fixed for the 70D, at least personally for me they are not critical and have far more interest in lossless compressed 10/12/14bit RAW to get more out of the camera.  You mention you need us to dig into customizing the work you have done for the 70D body, is there anything you can point me too to guide me a little what needs to be done?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: a1ex on April 27, 2017, 09:22:37 PM
Have you tried clicking on the links from my post?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 27, 2017, 09:26:41 PM
For me there is really two 70D issues of note.
Biggies
- Variable fps for video.  ~ doable but requires tweaking between the two known A & B timers.
- LCD Preview of 10bit Raw clip. I have seen raw_twk.mo for my 600D and it worked better. However on 70D it plays once and hangs the camera. Probably an overwrite or improper re-initialization.  This is doable but requires some scrutinizing.  I suspect it should be doable, since we can see LCD live display when shooting, stands to reason its not a throughput hang, so play-back looks doable.

Nice to have
- 24fps for 3X mode video, which enables highest resolutions (even 2k).  Right now best is 30fps. Probably get solved as part of the first item.

I wont have enough time until August.  But I want to.  But just to get the raw_twk.mo working would take 10bit raw from interesting to practical. 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: TechnoPilot on April 27, 2017, 09:31:47 PM
Quote from: a1ex on April 27, 2017, 09:22:37 PM
Have you tried clicking on the links from my post?
I just re-reviewed them, I didn't realize they were different links I only saw the "TwoInOne" post, I'll do some more reading!

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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: TechnoPilot on April 27, 2017, 09:35:19 PM
Quote from: ShootMeAlready on April 27, 2017, 09:26:41 PM
For me there is really two 70D issues of note.
Biggies
- Variable fps for video.  ~ doable but requires tweaking between the two known A & B timers.
- LCD Preview of 10bit Raw clip. I have seen raw_twk.mo for my 600D and it worked better. However on 70D it plays once and hangs the camera. Probably an overwrite or improper re-initialization.  This is doable but requires some scrutinizing.  I suspect it should be doable, since we can see LCD live display when shooting, stands to reason its not a throughput hang, so play-back looks doable.

Nice to have
- 24fps for 3X mode video, which enables highest resolutions (even 2k).  Right now best is 30fps. Probably get solved as part of the first item.

I wont have enough time until August.  But I want to.  But just to get the raw_twk.mo working would take 10bit raw from interesting to practical.
Agreed, rawtwk is the highly interesting side to me, hence in terms of my own focus, I want to work on that side.  Thanks to @Alex, I've got some more reading to do!

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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: bakersdozen on May 17, 2017, 12:22:14 PM
For us newer to ML on the 70d, were the FPS override issues with speeding up or slowing down the frame rate? Or both? Is there anyway of getting this module unlocked on the current release so we could play with the timers more and test it out again?

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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: isidroco on May 19, 2017, 01:11:44 AM
Quote from: offshore on April 08, 2017, 10:13:02 AM
Hi! I have a little problem with my camera and ML 70D fw 1.1.2 (beta 4a) ... frequently used to control EOS UTILITY wifi in the camera for astro sessions .... but when I activate the wifi and I try to take a pictures, camera freezes and shows several errors, once again error 70 error 80 sometimes freezes and I have to remove the battery to restore it anyway ... someone noticed the same problem? or is there any solution? thanks for any replies. Roberto.

You hit famous err80 on 70D, it's main motherboard, probably bad soldering, after LiveView or Video sessions heat might trigger the fault until camera doesn't work anymore. Canon doesn't recognize their fault except for Brazil where I sent mine to a friend there for free repair.
Elsewhere it costs between 400 and 500 dollars. There are lots of users complaining and I'm seriously considering abandoning the brand.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: deeky on May 24, 2017, 05:01:21 AM
Posted this in the Q&A forum, but putting it here hoping for a better response (like, anything).

I'm running ML on a 70D with the correct firmware version.  When I go to shoot live view with the focus peak overlay, I get nothing more than a magenta snow across the image.  Changing the threshold will change the rate of snowfall, but that's it.  As I move in and out of focus, it does not change the concentration of the snowflakes in any area.

It doesn't matter if I'm in Live View or all modes for Global Draw.
The zebras also will not show in live view, but only in image review after the shot is taken.
When in live view mode and the ML menu, the camera seems to glitch a little and occasionally flip to the live view image for just a second before flipping back to the ML menu.
I've tried 'uninstalling' ML by waiting and 'reinstalling' it again with the firmware update function.

Any suggestions?  Could it be a glitch in the download or extraction?

Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: tuxfoto on May 26, 2017, 08:20:11 AM
Hello,

same effect.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on May 27, 2017, 08:06:16 AM
Quote from: deeky on May 24, 2017, 05:01:21 AM
...
...
Any suggestions?  Could it be a glitch in the download or extraction?

Yes, read the first post. There's a "What's not working" section covering your issues with the ML menu flickering as well as zebra stuff.
Raw zebras are not available and that topic has been covered a few times. I recommend to use "fast zebras"!
Focus peaking has been confirmed a dozen of times for 1.1.1 as well as 1.1.2 to be working (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg179120#msg179120). Ofc you may have found a bug but please describe the exact way and sum of settings to reproduce it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: bakersdozen on May 28, 2017, 12:11:59 AM
Here's a quick summary of testing out FRSP https://youtu.be/QvExLlUC1cQ

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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: donnie_brasco on May 28, 2017, 06:07:13 PM
Hi

Just installed ML today on my 70D. Firmware 1.1.2

Everything went fine, but I am left without/can't find a way to disable my AGC. (Main reason I decided to try ML). Is this option not in place for 70D? Do we have any idea if it will, and if yes, do we know when?

Thanks, DB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 29, 2017, 06:40:08 PM
Consult Canon manual -> Setting the Sound Recording (p. 268): Sound Recording/Sound-Recording Level -> Manual
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: tuxfoto on May 29, 2017, 10:18:59 PM
Hallo,
i have complete New Installed. All function ok.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: donnie_brasco on June 04, 2017, 01:32:27 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on May 29, 2017, 06:40:08 PM
Consult Canon manual -> Setting the Sound Recording (p. 268): Sound Recording/Sound-Recording Level -> Manual

What settings are recomended? Is there a way to get completely clean audio without the whitenoise/hizz the agc makes? Except for using the mp3 trick or similiar like beachtek. Can i remove/reduce it in post? I use final cut pro.

Thanks so much for helping. 😀😀😀
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Nzyer on June 14, 2017, 02:25:09 AM
I searched alot here, on Google and Youtbe but couldn't find any help... My 70D says that Dual Iso does not work in movie mode on this camera. But why? Is it because of the writing speed? I remember that the 600D and 700D have this option and their writing speed is below of the writing speed of the 70D. I want to make those brilliant HDR Videos with the Dual Iso...

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: gunman30643 on June 19, 2017, 08:50:38 PM
HI
I am new to this site, need help with the link to download majic lantern to my canon 70D.

any assistance, I would  be grateful

Jan 8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: a1ex on June 24, 2017, 12:55:21 AM
Minor progress towards integration in the main tree: added a lua_fix experimental build. It's 100% untested on this model (I've tried it on 5D3 and 500D).

In particular, for this build, I'm interested in:
- logs from selftest.mo and api_test.lua
- any error screens that might pop up under regular usage (with steps to reproduce)
- whether raw video is working in all video modes
- whether raw video histogram changes with digital ISO (e.g. whether ISO 160/200/250 give different raw histograms in movie mode or not)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: XsMagical on June 28, 2017, 06:07:36 PM
Quote from: a1ex on June 24, 2017, 12:55:21 AM
Minor progress towards integration in the main tree: added a lua_fix experimental build. It's 100% untested on this model (I've tried it on 5D3 and 500D).

In particular, for this build, I'm interested in:
- logs from selftest.mo and api_test.lua
- any error screens that might pop up under regular usage (with steps to reproduce)
- whether raw video is working in all video modes
- whether raw video histogram changes with digital ISO (e.g. whether ISO 160/200/250 give different raw histograms in movie mode or not)

Testing now, Will report back
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: a1ex on June 28, 2017, 08:20:09 PM
Thanks; also added 10/12-bit experimental build, just as untested. Please try and report.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Cadkey on June 29, 2017, 07:23:22 AM
Where to download this version please?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 29, 2017, 07:40:07 AM
Top of page -> Downloads -> Downloads (Drop down menu) -> Experiments
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Cadkey on June 29, 2017, 07:54:04 AM
Thank you
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: andy kh on July 02, 2017, 11:34:35 AM
need to do some test but unfortunately im out of station or few weeks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: tuxfoto on July 12, 2017, 01:36:05 PM
Hallo,

when i install"magiclantern-lua_fix.2017Jul06.70D112.zip ", then is no Menu, by push the MENU-Button.
There is only the Symbol and the Name in Display.
Is this ok?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 12, 2017, 01:47:20 PM
Please share screen snapshot.
You tried to push "Trashcan" button, too?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: tuxfoto on July 12, 2017, 02:01:07 PM
I push the Trash-Button is ok.
Magic Lantern "start", push enter, comes the Overlay.
Push the Menu-Button, Comes not the complete Overlay.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 12, 2017, 02:08:31 PM
Sorry, unable to find "start". Unable to find "Enter".
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: tuxfoto on July 12, 2017, 02:27:16 PM
@All Sorry for my bad english!

Drücke Löschen, dann kommt Start von Magic Lantern, dann Ok-Taste/Enter, dann kommt das Overlay-Menu, wenn dann die Menu-Taste gedrückt wird soll die Komplett-Übersicht kommen. Es wird im Display oben/mitte das Symbol vom aktuellen Tab mit Beschriftung angezeigt.
Mit dem Wahlrad scrollen sieht man die einzelnen Symbole der Tabs.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 12, 2017, 05:23:25 PM
Es gibt an der Kamera keine Taste "ok" oder "Enter". Ich habe keine Ahnung, ob Du im Video- oder Fotomodus bist.

Gib die genauen Schritte an, mach am besten ein Video, das die Bedienschritte zeigt.
Ist das Verhalten bei anderen Builds identisch?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: tuxfoto on July 12, 2017, 07:21:06 PM
Hallo Walter,

Video on Youtube.

https://youtu.be/4tMTnbhk34o

Gruß
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 12, 2017, 07:38:48 PM
Wenn Du im ML-Menü bist und die MENU-Taste drückst, wechselst Du in den "Junkie"-Modus des ML-Menüs.
(http://www.magiclantern.fm/img/eosm.png)
Dort hast Du wieder die SET-Taste, um in die Untermenüs zu gehen und "Q", damit Du die Untermenüs wieder verläßt.
Wo ist das Problem?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: tuxfoto on July 12, 2017, 08:15:48 PM
Beta-4a alles ok.

magiclantern-lua_fix.2017Jul06.70D112.zip
Da funktioniert der Junkie-Modus nicht, im Video nachvollziehbar.

Sorry Walter, war eine schwierige Geburt, wusste nicht das der Modus so heisst.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: a1ex on July 12, 2017, 11:03:35 PM
After using some menu items in the regular menu, they should appear in the "junkie" one. That's because lua_fix includes the Dynamic My Menu experiment (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=18884).

Can you suggest a better behavior (in the linked thread) when the usage counters are not yet initialized? (in other words, right after a fresh install)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: tuxfoto on July 14, 2017, 06:58:02 AM
Thanks!
I'am testing.

Gives a faq for Dynamic Menu?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 17, 2017, 05:22:48 PM
      @Gunman30643

   Go to 1st Post on 1st Page of this Thread ~

               ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: stan101 on July 20, 2017, 05:43:01 PM
Hi all, I recently picked up my 70D after a while and tried to initiate Peak Focusing.. No matter what the setting in global draw, I only get peak focusing in the image review after shooting.. I have the Canon Overlays turned off.

Also, I can't get fast zebras to work at all. The spot metering is only showing up on the review also.

I know I have had zebras working in Live View and I think I had peak focusing working, too but for the life of me I can't recall what I have changed.

Is there any obvious setting other than the Global Draw option that I should be checking? I'm using v 112
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: a1ex on July 20, 2017, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: stan101 on July 20, 2017, 05:43:01 PM
Is there any obvious setting other than the Global Draw option that I should be checking?

If there's any precondition you need to set, it should be printed at the bottom of screen and the menu should be grayed out. Otherwise, it's a bug.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: RachelFilmsThings on July 30, 2017, 06:23:27 AM

(https://thumb.ibb.co/b6AH0Q/Screen_Shot_2017_07_30_at_12_15_04_AM.png) (https://ibb.co/b6AH0Q)

upload image lossless (https://imgbb.com/)


Hey,

I'm new to Magic Lantern and new to testing the beta for the 70D. Wanted to know if anyone can tell me what's wrong with the video or if it's a bug that is still being worked on.

Best,
Rachel
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: haldenjente on August 06, 2017, 07:30:46 PM
I can't find a working version for my 70D. Where do i find it?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 06, 2017, 10:10:53 PM
Go to first post of this thread ...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Loliplol on August 10, 2017, 01:33:40 PM
Noticed something while filming longer duration videos.

For some reason, it keeps losing the focus. So what I mean is, when I record some close ups, such as wedding rings etc etc it does a wonderful job focusing, quite happy with the footage. But the problem occurs when I move out of the close-up. It basically stays in that close-up focus, does not react anymore. Then I have to go and film random objects around the place to get it back working, and when it starts working it does a perfect job. I have tried this with several lenses and always does the same thing. When I remove ML it stops doing it. And I really don't want to remove it because it's so helpful.

Maybe I'm wrong, correct me if I am. But this has happened to me.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Co2260 on August 18, 2017, 03:22:52 AM
Hi,
first let me thank everyone that works on "magic lantern"s programing it's an amazing achievement, THANK YOU!.
I wanted to buy the 70D thanks to the price drop, but I refuse to buy any camera that doesn't allow magic lantern, for my purposes it's a MUST HAVE.
can someone explain to me how stable is it? - I mean not the fancy 4K raw but the older functions

I basically use 3 functions:
1- focus bracketing for macro (on the 100mm macro 2.8 non "L" version)
2- intervalometer with the exposure bracketing.
3- focus peaking \ live view sharpening increase - for video.

those are the "must have" functions for me. is it safe to buy a camera and hope they'll work?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Zeusjuice on August 20, 2017, 03:54:22 AM
Hello,

I'm brand new to ML and have already installed Beta -4a.  How do I though record in 10 bit raw using magic lantern?  I only see the 14 bit option.  I realize this answer is somewhere on the forum but being new im having some trouble.  Is there something else I need to add to the sd card from ML? If so do I have to remove ML and start over?  Keep in mind I'm completely new here and would very much appreciate some direct help with all the steps.  I have already loaded the 3 MLV modules.  Thank you in advance for your patience with a noob like myself. 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: andy kh on August 21, 2017, 03:49:22 PM
good news for 70D users. now 10bit/12bit recording works like a charm. playback in the camera is also possible. lets thank Alex for this wonderful job
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on August 21, 2017, 04:16:17 PM
Despite playback the recordings worked also in test releases:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg178494#msg178494

@a1ex: as TimerA works for modifying FPS -> what do you think about bringing it back for the public on 70D (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/535d5528df21)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: andy kh on August 21, 2017, 05:22:46 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on August 21, 2017, 04:16:17 PM
Despite playback the recordings worked also in test releases:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg178494#msg178494

not only playback problem but wrong black level was also a problem. its no more with today's release.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: bakersdozen on August 22, 2017, 12:46:32 AM
Quote from: nikfreak on August 21, 2017, 04:16:17 PM
Despite playback the recordings worked also in test releases:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg178494#msg178494

@a1ex: as TimerA works for modifying FPS -> what do you think about bringing it back for the public on 70D (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/535d5528df21)
Yes please, I would love to get the bugs ironed out for fps override on 70d

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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: gutosantana on August 22, 2017, 05:33:20 AM
Quote from: andy kh on August 21, 2017, 03:49:22 PM
good news for 70D users. now 10bit/12bit recording works like a charm. playback in the camera is also possible. lets thank Alex for this wonderful job

Hi, Andy. What version you are referring to ? I´m new here and want to start using ML on my 70D. Thanks in advance and best regards from Brazil to everyone here!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 22, 2017, 10:15:01 AM
Top of page -> Downloads -> Downloads (pull down menu) -> Experiments -> 10/12-bit RAW video
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: fjodor on August 22, 2017, 09:09:24 PM
I am using the new 10/12bit build (21th aug.) recording 10bit raw with audio works perfectly. My sincere gratitude!
But audio is terribly out of sync after conversion with MLV Producer to cDNG, any recommendation for converting 10bit to cDNG on PC for use in Resolve?

Thanks in advance ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: skrimaging on August 23, 2017, 06:53:46 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on August 22, 2017, 10:15:01 AM
Top of page -> Downloads -> Downloads (pull down menu) -> Experiments -> 10/12-bit RAW video
Should I download this August 21 10bit/12bit for my 70D or keep using the one from the first page on this thread that states being released back in oct 26 2016? Are there other advantages to installing august 21 build compared to older one linked here?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: andy kh on August 24, 2017, 11:27:19 AM
You should download newer builds, test and report if you find any bugs. I have been using the 21 Aug build without any problem so far. 12/10bit recording works great now. You should try for yourself
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 28, 2017, 09:04:56 PM
See reply 2986
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on August 31, 2017, 06:31:01 PM
upgrade your firmware to 1.1.2
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: rileypreston_99 on September 06, 2017, 01:05:57 AM
Hi there, hopefully this is the right place to post this. I have been getting some weird bars on my photos. I have a Canon 70D and I am running the latest Canon firmware and the latest Magic Lantern firmware. I am wondering if it is a software issue or a physical issue with my camera. Here are a few examples.

(http://thumb.ibb.co/kaGhuF/IMG_2891.jpg) (http://ibb.co/kaGhuF)

(http://thumb.ibb.co/ntbRMv/IMG_2893.jpg) (http://ibb.co/ntbRMv)

(http://thumb.ibb.co/eYsBoa/IMG_2870.jpg) (http://ibb.co/eYsBoa)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: gerk.raisen on September 18, 2017, 03:44:54 PM
Hello all,

Tried to compile from lastest crop_rec_4k branch
after 2d83b69 (merge of 70D_merge_112 branch into crop_rec_4k)

When compiling I receive the error:

[ CC       ]   exmem.o
In file included from ../../src/exmem.c:3:0:
../../src/exmem.c: In function 'srm_malloc_cbr':
../../src/exmem.c:380:12: error: 'SRM_BUFFER_SIZE' undeclared (first use in this function)
     ASSERT(SRM_BUFFER_SIZE == raw_buffer_size);


If I understand correctly seems that the value of SRM_BUFFER_SIZE is not set

It's something that we know or maybe I could help finding it?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: tecgen on September 18, 2017, 04:02:44 PM
The value of the SRM_BUFFER_SIZE for the 70D is *not yet* known within the crop_rec_4k branch. Have at the look at the code in the exmem.c class within the branch. You need to copy the printf(...) method call to the unified branch, compile it and run it on a real 70D. You are be able to find the value of the SRM_BUFFER_SIZE within a terminal window. Take this value and write it into the exmem.c class of the crop_rec_4k branch and try to compile it again.

I did the same for the 550D some days ago.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=19300.msg189699#msg189699
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: gerk.raisen on September 18, 2017, 06:10:41 PM
Thanks tecgen,
I've tried to follow you but maybe the exmem.c code is a little too difficult for me :(

I tried to insert the following code in the exmem.c in the 70D_merge_112 branch (70D is still not in unified builds)


/* called from RscMgr task */
static REQUIRES(RscMgr) void srm_malloc_cbr(void** dst_ptr, void* raw_buffer, uint32_t raw_buffer_size)
{
    //printf("srm_malloc_cbr(%x, %x, %x)\n", dst_ptr, raw_buffer, raw_buffer_size);

    /* we can't tell how much to allocate; the allocator tells us */
    /* the value is hardcoded in consts.h, for speed (probing is very slow) */
    ASSERT(SRM_BUFFER_SIZE == raw_buffer_size);
   
    /* return the newly allocated buffer in the output variable */
    *dst_ptr = raw_buffer;
   
    /* announce it's done */
    give_semaphore_nc(srm_alloc_sem);
}


I inserted it just after the line

342     static int srm_allocated = 0;

but trying to compile it return me a bunch of errors:


[ CC       ]   exmem.o
../../src/exmem.c:345:8: warning: return type defaults to 'int' [-Wimplicit-int]
static REQUIRES(RscMgr) void srm_malloc_cbr(void** dst_ptr, void* raw_buffer, uint32_t raw_buffer_size)
        ^
../../src/exmem.c: In function 'REQUIRES':
../../src/exmem.c:346:1: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '{' token
{
^
../../src/exmem.c:362:17: error: storage class specified for parameter 'srm_buffer_size'
static uint32_t srm_buffer_size = 0;
                 ^
../../src/exmem.c:362:1: error: parameter 'srm_buffer_size' is initialized
static uint32_t srm_buffer_size = 0;
^
../../src/exmem.c:365:27: error: storage class specified for parameter 'srm_alloc_sem'
static struct semaphore * srm_alloc_sem = 0;
                           ^
../../src/exmem.c:365:15: error: parameter 'srm_alloc_sem' is initialized
static struct semaphore * srm_alloc_sem = 0;
               ^
../../src/exmem.c:368:1: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '{' token
{
^
../../src/exmem.c:388:17: error: storage class specified for parameter 'old_uilock_shutter'
static uint32_t old_uilock_shutter;
                 ^
../../src/exmem.c:391:1: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '{' token
{
^
../../src/exmem.c:399:1: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '{' token
{
^
../../src/exmem.c:407:1: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '{' token
{
^
../../src/exmem.c:491:1: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '{' token
{
^
../../src/exmem.c:517:1: warning: empty declaration
struct srm_malloc_buf
^
../../src/exmem.c:523:26: error: storage class specified for parameter 'srm_malloc_hSuite'
static struct memSuite * srm_malloc_hSuite = 0;
                          ^
../../src/exmem.c:523:15: error: parameter 'srm_malloc_hSuite' is initialized
static struct memSuite * srm_malloc_hSuite = 0;
               ^
../../src/exmem.c:524:30: error: storage class specified for parameter 'srm_malloc_buffers'
static struct srm_malloc_buf srm_malloc_buffers[10] = {{0}};
                              ^
../../src/exmem.c:524:15: error: parameter 'srm_malloc_buffers' is initialized
static struct srm_malloc_buf srm_malloc_buffers[10] = {{0}};
               ^
../../src/exmem.c:524:15: warning: braces around scalar initializer
../../src/exmem.c:524:15: note: (near initialization for 'srm_malloc_buffers')
../../src/exmem.c:528:1: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '{' token
{
^
../../src/exmem.c:590:1: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '{' token
{
^
../../src/exmem.c:618:1: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '{' token
{
^
../../src/exmem.c:630:1: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '{' token
{
^
../../src/exmem.c:668:1: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '{' token
{
^
In file included from ../../src/dryos.h:41:0,
                 from ../../src/exmem.c:3:
../../src/tasks.h:160:8: error: parameter 'task_create_exmem_init' is initialized
struct task_create \
        ^
../../src/exmem.c:674:1: note: in expansion of macro 'INIT_FUNC'
INIT_FUNC("exmem", exmem_init);
^
../../src/tasks.h:162:1: error: section attribute not allowed for 'task_create_exmem_init'
task_create_##ENTRY = { \
^
../../src/exmem.c:674:1: note: in expansion of macro 'INIT_FUNC'
INIT_FUNC("exmem", exmem_init);
^
../../src/exmem.c:674:20: error: 'exmem_init' undeclared (first use in this function)
INIT_FUNC("exmem", exmem_init);
                    ^
../../src/tasks.h:164:27: note: in definition of macro 'INIT_FUNC'
         .entry          = ENTRY, \
                           ^
../../src/exmem.c:674:20: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in
INIT_FUNC("exmem", exmem_init);
                    ^
../../src/tasks.h:164:27: note: in definition of macro 'INIT_FUNC'
         .entry          = ENTRY, \
                           ^
../../src/exmem.c:345:8: warning: type of 'RscMgr' defaults to 'int' [-Wimplicit-int]
static REQUIRES(RscMgr) void srm_malloc_cbr(void** dst_ptr, void* raw_buffer, uint32_t raw_buffer_size)
        ^
In file included from ../../src/dryos.h:41:0,
                 from ../../src/exmem.c:3:
../../src/tasks.h:162:1: error: declaration for parameter 'task_create_exmem_init' but no such parameter
task_create_##ENTRY = { \
^
../../src/exmem.c:674:1: note: in expansion of macro 'INIT_FUNC'
INIT_FUNC("exmem", exmem_init);
^
../../src/exmem.c:524:30: error: declaration for parameter 'srm_malloc_buffers' but no such parameter
static struct srm_malloc_buf srm_malloc_buffers[10] = {{0}};
                              ^
../../src/exmem.c:523:26: error: declaration for parameter 'srm_malloc_hSuite' but no such parameter
static struct memSuite * srm_malloc_hSuite = 0;
                          ^
../../src/exmem.c:388:17: error: declaration for parameter 'old_uilock_shutter' but no such parameter
static uint32_t old_uilock_shutter;
                 ^
../../src/exmem.c:365:27: error: declaration for parameter 'srm_alloc_sem' but no such parameter
static struct semaphore * srm_alloc_sem = 0;
                           ^
../../src/exmem.c:362:17: error: declaration for parameter 'srm_buffer_size' but no such parameter
static uint32_t srm_buffer_size = 0;
                 ^
In file included from ../../src/dryos.h:41:0,
                 from ../../src/exmem.c:3:
../../src/tasks.h:160:8: error: expected '{' at end of input
struct task_create \
        ^
../../src/exmem.c:674:1: note: in expansion of macro 'INIT_FUNC'
INIT_FUNC("exmem", exmem_init);
^
../../src/exmem.c: At top level:
../../src/exmem.c:342:12: warning: 'srm_allocated' defined but not used [-Wunused-variable]
static int srm_allocated = 0;
            ^
make[1]: *** [../../Makefile.filerules:25: exmem.o] Error 1


Could you please help me a little more step by step? :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on September 18, 2017, 07:38:03 PM
Quote from: tecgen on September 18, 2017, 04:02:44 PM
The value of the SRM_BUFFER_SIZE for the 70D is *not yet* known...

a1ex has meanwhile "extended" my initial pull request and you can say that my PR and the one in ML's repo don'T match exactly. I've reintroduce fps override btw in my PR. Still if you follow the source linked in 1st post:

https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/branch/70D_merge_fw112

you will find SRM_BUFFER_SIZE
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: tecgen on September 18, 2017, 08:31:17 PM
Great nikfreak! Than thats just a matter of time until the crop_rec_4k branch will compile for the 70D again :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: gerk.raisen on September 19, 2017, 09:19:51 AM
Thank you nikfreak...

I just can't wait: :)

Meantime I try building from your repo and maybe I'll try to integrate your lastest commit in the A1ex crop_rec_4k branch
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: andy kh on September 19, 2017, 03:40:23 PM
i downloaded and test the latest 15 Sep 17 build and found mlv playback problem. if recording is done only for 4/5 seconds playback is ok but if i record for a longer time like 20 seconds or more i always get this msg


(http://thumb.ibb.co/mNbp8k/mlv_plaback_problem.jpg) (http://ibb.co/mNbp8k)


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: west777 on September 24, 2017, 08:58:40 AM
Сan you give me the download link Beta-3c? Thanks :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: andy kh on September 25, 2017, 09:22:34 PM
"fixme: please use fio_malloc (in mlv_play_task) 70D"  has been fixed with the latest Sep 25 build. thank u
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on September 27, 2017, 08:20:48 PM
Quote from: andy kh on September 25, 2017, 09:22:34 PM
"fixme: please use fio_malloc (in mlv_play_task) 70D"  has been fixed with the latest Sep 25 build. thank u

I can confirm this as well.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: aedipuss on September 30, 2017, 04:11:10 AM
does the latest build from 9/25/17 work ok?  i'm kind of leery installing it as the first thing listed in the change log is " Test results: 0 passed, 3 failed."  ???
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: kittywantsbacon on September 30, 2017, 05:38:44 AM
I've been getting Err 70 in after using liveview for a few seconds with the ML overlay. This happens with my modern lenses and with autofocus on, but doesn't happen with manual vintage lenses or with autofocus turned off.
Here's the crash log that's been the same every time: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hpYZkCwXo5aS2c0rdScFjKWhgm9o3r4WGXBZgca9lDw/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hpYZkCwXo5aS2c0rdScFjKWhgm9o3r4WGXBZgca9lDw/edit?usp=sharing)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: a1ex on September 30, 2017, 10:38:17 AM
Quote from: aedipuss on September 30, 2017, 04:11:10 AM
does the latest build from 9/25/17 work ok?  i'm kind of leery installing it as the first thing listed in the change log is " Test results: 0 passed, 3 failed."  ???

That's a limitation of the emulator - the 70D is unable to navigate the menus in QEMU. I forgot the emulation enabled for 70D (copy/paste error from 100D, where it's working). These tests are automatic (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=20560) - they run without human intervention.

Solved - the download page should update itself shortly.

@kittywantsbacon: out of memory = try unloading some modules.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on October 01, 2017, 12:36:59 PM
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/1db2345fd8e093b1c5049c9e8bd5aadd6649d8bf#comment-5281388
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on October 04, 2017, 05:34:42 PM
      @The Wizards

   Not a request, Just Curious >

Will the recent wonderful developments for the SL1 be able to be brought to the 70D?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on October 04, 2017, 06:02:06 PM
lossless compression works
a PR for reintroducing fps override is open

so some love here, too
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on October 04, 2017, 06:21:23 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on October 04, 2017, 06:02:06 PM
lossless compression works
a PR for reintroducing fps override is open

so some love here, too

wow i cant wait to try this
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on October 04, 2017, 10:13:24 PM
                     @NikFreak

           "lossless compression works"

Via Nightly or Experimental? Don't have access to 70D right now or I would just Test.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dimbud on October 05, 2017, 03:53:51 PM
these two functions I need from magic lantern, but both of them I can not get. when the magic zoom is activated, the zoom button (+) just does not respond to anything when pushed. does not display the zoom panel, nor does it magnify the image

sorry for my bad english

Canon 70D, Indonesia
Title: Canon 70D
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 05, 2017, 06:51:14 PM
@nikfreak: quick question re: 70D -- is there a particular reason why selftest.mo won't build on the branch that is in the main repository?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on October 05, 2017, 07:21:48 PM
cause this misses:

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/869/70d-merge-fw112-update/diff
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: zootrope on October 07, 2017, 12:49:51 PM
Hi !
Could you explain what magiclantern-lua_fix.2017Sep11.70D112 version is ?
What's the difference between that version and nightly build version or 10/12 bit raw video version ?
Thanks !
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: I dont know on October 08, 2017, 11:55:37 AM
i made everything in accuracy as you told. occurred nothing.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 09, 2017, 02:49:41 AM
And your problem is?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on October 09, 2017, 08:24:26 PM
                         @ I Don't Know

            Are You saying that You believe that You have done an Accurate Install but M'L' is not showing up on Your 70D ?

                                                                                                  ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: lojzik on October 13, 2017, 08:10:22 AM
build 2017-10-03 00:36
lua api test -> camera turns off, last log is

QuoteFocus distance: 170
Focusing backward with step size 1, wait=true...
...
Focus distance: 250

edit: problem is with ef-s 24mm
with other lens is test "Done!"

edit: this build is without selftest
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dimbud on October 14, 2017, 06:08:57 AM
after installation, the firmware does not change as in my 1200d camera, so I can access the ML menu but it does not work at all
(http://thumb.ibb.co/eQ76fb/IMG_20171014_110517.jpg) (http://ibb.co/eQ76fb)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 16, 2017, 02:15:44 PM
Top of page -> User Guide -> Install Guide -> Step 3.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: fakokay on October 16, 2017, 07:16:15 PM
hi everyone,


Will receive my new canon 77D this week... just wondering if there's any plan for this body, or a compatible already version build since the sensor are updated.

Loved my t5i with ML... i use it mostly for : focus peaking - zebras - 180 degree rule and custom white balance.


Have a great day everyone ! :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: russellsnr on October 17, 2017, 08:17:53 PM
Hi, having a little trouble trying to get the RGB Histogram to show on the 70D to allow the clip point in live view. Works fine on the 6D.
Any help please?
Thankyou.
Russ

(http://thumb.ibb.co/kHR8wR/Clip_Point_Histo.jpg) (http://ibb.co/kHR8wR)


OK sorted seems will not work when Wi-Fi is enabled. Russ.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Audionut on October 19, 2017, 12:41:40 PM
Quote from: fakokay on October 16, 2017, 07:16:15 PM
Will receive my new canon 77D this week... just wondering if there's any plan for this body, or a compatible already version build since the sensor are updated.

http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/faq#any_progress_on_xyz

QuoteIf you can't find anything about it in the relevant forum thread, it's safe to assume there was none.
Title: requesting Alpha-7b "ICEMAN"
Post by: psycho0o on October 20, 2017, 01:35:49 AM
Hello
can anyone help me to get Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" version ?

and is there anyway to downgrade from 1.1.2 to 1.1.1 ?

thank you in advance
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on October 21, 2017, 11:44:50 AM
Hello 70D users!
Let my start by saying I'm new to the forum and have mighty respect for everything that's happening here - ML has greatly improved the lives of professionals and enthusiasts alike in my opinion :).

I hope this is the right thread to be posting this question in - I have a question with regard to the 70D autofocus.

Since the Dual Pixel AF ist really the distinguishing feature of the 70D, I wonder how well it works in Raw recording modes. I found some examples on youtube, like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owsLJnJJIvw
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBISGjo87DM

where the tracking AF is obviously active, but I haven't found anything on the "touch-to-rack-focus" AF.
In other words, I was hoping some of the 70D users here on the forum could chime in and tell me if (and how well, eg speed, reliability) the touch screen works with say 10bit raw recording. Would be greatly appreciated since I feel it is such an important part of the 70Ds appeal which no other cam can do right now! I was hoping to shed some light onto this topic in order to provide a little bit of a help for potential future 70D users (like myself) with regard to buying decisions!

Thanks in advance,
David


Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: weke88 on October 24, 2017, 10:43:16 AM
Hey,

I'm really new to magic lantern and filming in generell - so I have a simple question: How is 2k possible on the canon 70D. I asked an professional cameraman about magic lantern an shooting 2k with the 70D and he responded that it wouldnt be "real" 2k, but just extrapolated 2k, because the chip in the 70D doesnt change and it can't fully process 2k. (sorry for the stupid question) So what is right: can ML do "real" 2k or not? And what does it mean to do 2k on a chip that isn't made for it?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on October 24, 2017, 04:43:50 PM
Hello again!
So I bit the bullet and got me a 70D :D.
I havent had it for long enough to conduct a thorough investigation but maybe what I found so far is helpful for others:

With regard to my own questions - yes, all types of AF work with raw recording, also with 10bit (at least as far as I've tested it.) However, there is one major drawback - perhaps this is very obvious but maybe it helps clarify some stuff for other newbies;) - you cant see the canon overlays, so while tracking and racking focus works, you dont see the actual white box on the screen. I think the AF is still useable though in tracking mode when your subject doesnt move super fast, like in a regular tracking shot. I will report back once I've tried it but the possibility to have continuous focus when being on a glidecam is really the scenario where I could see this being a real benefti (because wireless follow focus units are pretty darn expensive).

I'd also be happy to test the new lossless compression built once it's ready!

Cheers,
David
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: toxotis70 on October 26, 2017, 05:52:46 PM
what is the maximum resolution in RAw for video for 70D ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on October 26, 2017, 09:44:02 PM
Here are some key advantages of the 70D with ML that spring to mind.  How great they are depends how you like to shoot video.

Key video advantages in the 70D with ML include
- zebras for highlights &   other curves/waves etc.
- Magic zoom PIP zoom on LCD, and or focus peaks for MF/AF focusing
- rgb parade with warnings
Cinemascope (1:2.35 aspect) Video Resolutions and Durations with full AF options.
- 10 bit raw, 1600x680 @30fps.  Max resolution continuous for 30fps.
- 10 bit raw, 1824x774 @30 fps, 709 frames about 23.6s.
- 10 bit raw, 1824x774 @24 fps.  Max resolution continuous 24fps.
Cinemascope / Near FHD to 2.5k.  These are Zoomed with MF, the Zoomed AF only does centre point Single Zone
- 10 bit raw, 3X, 1856x790 @24fps. Max resolution continuous, 24fps, also note 3X has no alias/moire.
- 10 bit raw, 5X, 1920x818 @30fps, was 494 frames about 16.4s. 
- 10 bit raw, 5X, 2240x954 @30fps, was 197 frames about 8s.
- 10 bit raw, 5X, 2550x1072 @30fps, was 124 frames about 4s.
Cinemascope /Slo-Mo  (Note some camcorders have only 4s buffers for slo-mo)   
- 10 bit raw, 1824x466 @60fps, was 759 frames, about 12.6s.  Note vertical has to be stretched, but all AF options. 
- 10 bit raw, 5X, 1920x804 @60fps, was 525 frames about 8.75s.  5X zoom uses MF.   
Highest Bit Depth Cinemascope
- 14 bit raw continuous video for 720p @24 fps, full AF options. H264 720p for high ISO slo-mo.
** 80D greater sensor DR for H264 video, yet 70D raw video has highlight/lowlight recovery over its DR, more bits used the harder you can push it in post. Yet raw video supports lower ISO 400 max, because of hot pixels, and shadow banding. If you want to shoot low light high ISO with 70D H264 is good to ISO 1600 **
- 3rd party VAF to reduce moire and aliasing
- ML for stills HDR has more bracketing options, and dual ISO
- ML for timelapse has a valometer and silent / shutter click free, supports 4k video
- ML has clean HDMI output, 422 8bit H264 at 1600p horizontal max. resolution (needs crop)

Common strengths with 80D
- 3rd party flat or log picture profile improves DR (est. 1.5 stops) in H264 over standard Canon profiles
- PDAF with touchscreen for focus pulls
- PDAF with facial recognition permits tracking of slow to fast moving objects
- PDAF with facial recognition achieves parfocal like behavior when zooming with non-parfocal glass
- PDAF on LCD for stills shooting with focal extenders, means you arent limitted by f-stop for AF (birders/action)
- 3X zoom video does a digital zoom, which some have used to about 6X
- 3X zoom video does not line skip (no moire or aliasing)
- twistflex LCD supports shots at low/high angles

- Remote  H264 video shooting can be done by wire with EOS on windows or DSLR controller app on Android, with drag/drop focus set.  There are some 3rd party wireless router solutions (ex. TGP,  but have not used these so others have to confirm their status).


These are just a few
Title: What's new?
Post by: Anantajit on October 28, 2017, 11:15:37 AM
Hi. I still got the alpha-4a version from oct 2016. What is actually new in the later versions? Sorry, can't find the info and the changelog says nothing. Clicking previous builds to see changelog doesn't work either. Best regards.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 28, 2017, 02:33:46 PM
Read first message in this thread.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Anantajit on October 28, 2017, 10:58:48 PM
I apologize if I'm being stupid or missing the obvious, but I can't find any notes there about what's new after 26th Oct 16. That's the last note in the changelog. Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on October 29, 2017, 11:10:35 AM
Hey,

I know it can be hard to keep up with the developments, there's multiple people working on different things and not really a place where one can look up everything all at once. As far as I can tell (and if you want a list of what's possible with regard to video you might want to look at ShootMeAlready's post #3030) the biggest thing you are missing out on is 10bit raw recording. You can find that build in the "experiments" section of the main page or, indeed, in the first post of this very thread.

There's also an open pull request to bring back fps override and (if I interpreted this correctly) because of the similarities/advancements on the 100D, the 70D will also soon have the losless compression working. Which is IMO, the next big "step up" for the 70D.

Hope that helps,
Dave
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Anantajit on October 31, 2017, 11:11:23 AM
Thanks Dave for clarifying :)
Looking forward to the fps override myself.
Best wishes!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on November 20, 2017, 11:46:46 AM
Hey! If you mean in-camera playback when you say "I need to see the raw files on the screen" then yes, you should upgrade to the latest ML version because this works just fine! (and I think that raw_twk. is needed for that so that works too).

@nikfreak and the other developers with more insight into the latest advancements - a few posts back there were hints that lossless compression is in the making for this cam, just out of interest, what's the current state of these developements? Also, has the fps pull request ever received any attention? Just trying to keep up with what's going on at the moment!

Cheers, Dave
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Stathman on November 22, 2017, 02:28:28 PM
Here!
https://builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html

Scroll down to 10/12-bit RAW video and download the one for the 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on November 26, 2017, 05:35:40 PM
Thanx I updated the RAW shooting resolutions in my previous post on this page #3030 to match lastest experimental raw, its rather good now.

You can get to about 90% of 1920/2.35 @ 24fps with 10bit raw with full AF capabilities, continuously.
All higher resolutions like 1920/2.35 requires 30fps and MF & peaks/magic zoom with time limits (see prev post).
10bit raw slo-mo is 1920/2.35 @60fps, for 8.5s, more than enough for most needs.

With full 1920/2.35 support in 10-bit raw, this camera for video exceeds an 80D unless you want H264/IPB but even there youre shooting without the ML features and not in cinemascope (unless you post crop).  An interesting comparison would be 80D IPB slo-mo vs 70D 10 bit slo-mo. IPB when panned has shadow banding, and raw has ISO limit of about 800 for 8.5s before shadow noise (its really a trade-off comparison). 
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 28, 2017, 08:34:10 PM
           Is there a reason that the 70D is not on the "Features" List ?

If not, could whomever is the Keeper of the List Add it please ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: shinoda on November 29, 2017, 12:11:59 AM
Quote from: ShootMeAlready on November 26, 2017, 05:35:40 PM
Thanx I updated the RAW shooting resolutions in my previous post on this page #3030 to match lastest experimental raw, its rather good now.

You can get to about 90% of 1920/2.35 @ 24fps with 10bit raw with full AF capabilities, continuously.
All higher resolutions like 1920/2.35 requires 30fps and MF & peaks/magic zoom with time limits (see prev post).
10bit raw slo-mo is 1920/2.35 @60fps, for 8.5s, more than enough for most needs.

With full 1920/2.35 support in 10-bit raw, this camera for video exceeds an 80D unless you want H264/IPB but even there youre shooting without the ML features.  An interesting comparison would be 80D IPB slo-mo vs 70D 10 bit slo-mo. IPB when panned has shadow banding, and raw has ISO limit of about 800 for 8.5s before shadow noise (its really a trade-off comparison).

How about aliasing/moire at these resolutions? I just tested at 1920 / 10bits, it's pretty bad (it's supposed to be, but not that bad...). Maybe my settings aren't right? I just changed the video settings on ML before testing.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: fakokay on December 02, 2017, 04:11:15 AM
Quote from: Audionut on October 19, 2017, 12:41:40 PM
http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/faq#any_progress_on_xyz

Thx for your reply. But is there any plans for developping for the DIGID 7 sensor (&&d / t7i) in the future ?

i'll keep my t5i until there's a ML for the 77D... loved too much your focus peaking / custom WB / zebra, but i love my 77D for the autofocus !

regards
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on December 02, 2017, 08:08:40 PM
I have a VAF which takes care of alias/moire. I find its only a problem in certain shots.  Generally you can ensure your subject is not wearing tight stripes etc. But then again sometimes you want to shoot scenes with bricks, hydro wires, and stripes and for these your can use 3X zoom, 10bit raw for no moire/alias.  You can get to 1864x792 24fps cinemascope.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Audionut on December 04, 2017, 07:29:12 AM
Quote from: fakokay on December 02, 2017, 04:11:15 AM
Thx for your reply. But is there any plans for developping for the DIGID 7 sensor (&&d / t7i) in the future ?

Buy a magic 8 ball and shake it until it displays the answer you want.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on December 05, 2017, 06:00:10 AM
I am a little puzzled, with my resolution results.  The 3X zoom I get, it actually is a crop mode, but the 5X mode, when selected permits 1920 @2:35???
I thought the 5X mode, was a zoom only for focus checking and records just like 3X zoom, but it appears that ML requires this to get to resolutions of 1920p. 
Not sure why ML has increased resolutions in 5X mode only shouldn't theybe in 3X mode as well???

As I understand it only the T3i and 70D/80D have the 3X zoom modes ( a lossless sensor crop).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: hesk on December 14, 2017, 12:28:01 AM
Hi everybody,

Update: After some more googling, I found the source and the problem and the fix (enable INFO screen in Canon Firmware). Now, everything works.

I have a somewhat urgent question. I tried to use dottune on a 70D but when I start the scan, it cycles through the info view until it stops at the level display and then it prints "Press INFO and try again." Then nothing happens.

Any idea what I can do to get it working? Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: isidroco on December 15, 2017, 03:39:32 PM
Magic zoom doesn't work while recording video with latest Oct-3-2017 70d build...  It works fine when not recording.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on December 18, 2017, 05:30:20 AM
Another question I have is why does one have to use 5X mag to get to 1920p?
I am wondering how ML gets there with 5X on, but not when its off?

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on December 18, 2017, 06:20:32 AM
This is a very, very old one and discussed a lot: "Full frame" recording on 70D (and most other excluding 5D3) is done by line skipping (every 3rd line is recorded). Do the math, vertical pixels/3 < 1080.  It's genuinely liveview resolution you get without cropping. For 1080p in H.264 Canon does some anti-aliasing (softening), upscaling, noise reductrion and sharpening.
Crop mode does not use  line skipping but an area cropped from "full frame"
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: djkraq on December 20, 2017, 07:20:21 PM
Quote from: Stathman on November 22, 2017, 02:28:28 PM
Here!
https://builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html

Scroll down to 10/12-bit RAW video and download the one for the 70D.

Its not there
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Stathman on December 20, 2017, 09:17:51 PM
Quote from: djkraq on December 20, 2017, 07:20:21 PM
Its not there

That's odd.
Maybe it's been removed by accident?
I don't know, it was there!
I can share it if you want.
Is it against the rules?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: djkraq on December 20, 2017, 10:01:15 PM
please do.  [email protected]
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: esas on December 21, 2017, 09:46:17 PM
Hi!

Bought a 70D a few days ago and have started looking at the code, but I'm unsure what branch I should be working with.

The 70D_merge_fw112 is falling way behind.
70D isn't included in raw_video_10bit_12bit  any longer.

crop_rec_4k doesn't compile for the 70D. This has been discussed before, and seems to have been fixed here: https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/branch/70D_merge_fw112, but not merged into crop_rec_4k.

Am I missing something? I'm not very experienced with mercurial so proberly I am.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on December 21, 2017, 11:11:17 PM
70D_merge_fw112 is now up to date and merges almost cleanly with raw_video_10bit_12bit (except mlv_rec; will look into it).

For crop_rec_4k (which includes everything from raw_video_10bit_12bit), both 70D and 100D are merged, but this branch only compiles for those models specifically updated for the new stuff (crop_rec module and/or lossless compression). The changes from nikfreak have to be included, but I'm not sure what's their status, what works and what not - please try and report back.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on December 22, 2017, 07:15:01 AM
I have some time to test 4k and lossless compression, when there is a build. I have been eager to test this out on the 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: lojzik on December 22, 2017, 08:40:26 AM
last experimental builds are without selftest module. Is it bug or feature?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on December 22, 2017, 09:22:49 AM
Bug - the build system doesn't quite tell the difference between missing stubs and genuine module compatibility issues, and these errors are not very obvious on the download page either (unless one looks in the build log specifically for these things). So... didn't notice it.

TODO: add some of these tests (the ones that work) in QEMU.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: esas on December 22, 2017, 03:56:15 PM
Added temperature in this (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/888/added-function-for-convertion-from/diff) PR (my first ever:).

Confirmed  SRM_BUFFER_SIZE 0x2314000 using this method (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=19336.msg193974#msg193974).

I used this as well, since it was the same for every model: DEFAULT_RAW_BUFFER_SIZE (0x4ee00000 - 0x4d600100).

I'm now able to compile crop_rec_4k. I have only loaded on camera and checked that relevant modules load. Checked very fast lossless recording (doesn't work) and 10 bit recording (seemsto work, but haven't checked output files).

For anyone willing to test, here's a compiled version (https://bitbucket.org/es_as/magic-lantern/downloads/).

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on December 22, 2017, 08:27:11 PM
@esas: please approve this before it gets completely lost:

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/869/70d-merge-fw112-update/diff
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Stathman on December 23, 2017, 03:12:08 AM
Quote from: esas on December 22, 2017, 03:56:15 PM
Added temperature in this (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/888/added-function-for-convertion-from/diff) PR (my first ever:).

Confirmed  SRM_BUFFER_SIZE 0x2314000 using this method (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=19336.msg193974#msg193974).

I used this as well, since it was the same for every model: DEFAULT_RAW_BUFFER_SIZE (0x4ee00000 - 0x4d600100).

I'm now able to compile crop_rec_4k. I have only loaded on camera and checked that relevant modules load. Checked very fast lossless recording (doesn't work) and 10 bit recording (seemsto work, but haven't checked output files).

For anyone willing to test, here's a compiled version (https://bitbucket.org/es_as/magic-lantern/downloads/).

I can't get crop_rec to work.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on December 23, 2017, 08:02:14 AM

(http://thumb.ibb.co/hJmEfR/25975727_1603428119694365_1253798054_n.jpg) (http://ibb.co/hJmEfR)


this is what i get while trying to record 14bit lossless
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Stathman on December 23, 2017, 03:38:15 PM
Same here, lossless not working.
Except for the obvious, lossless means potentially higher resolutions?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: esas on December 23, 2017, 06:54:29 PM
Quote from: Stathman on December 23, 2017, 03:12:08 AM
I can't get crop_rec to work.

Quote from: andy kh on December 23, 2017, 08:02:14 AM
this is what i get while trying to record 14bit lossless

Quote from: Stathman on December 23, 2017, 03:38:15 PM
Same here, lossless not working.

There's a lot of work to be done before all the new cool stuff works on the 70D, but it looks like nikfreak has allready done a good amount of work on it some moths ago. What happened nikfreak? Got rid of your 70D?

To be honest I think the best thing we can do is to do what we can to get the 70D into unified branch first. Anyone have the insight to tell what needed to get there?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on December 23, 2017, 07:11:10 PM
First step is merging the experimental backends the 70D depends on. These are:

- QEMU (next on the list, asked for proof reading the docs (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/src/qemu/contrib/qemu/README.rst) a few times)
- new DryOS task hooks (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/672/dryos-task-hooks-for-newer-cameras-6d-70d/diff) (depends on QEMU, bug the 6D folks to test it and give meaningful feedback (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15088.msg194785#msg194785), 100D/EOSM2 also waiting for it)
- patch manager (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/687/patch-manager-wip/diff) (last time I've used the camera outside with this branch I've got err70, didn't narrow down yet; this one is causing the conflict with mlv_rec in the 10/12-bit branch; it's already included in the "bleeding edge" crop_rec_4k)
- lua_fix (70D can't run Lua scripts without the new backend - asked for feedback (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14828.msg194706#msg194706) a couple of times as well, but I keep finding regressions in ML core, outside Lua, from the changes done to fix the scripting API)

Next:
- sort out FPS override (I'd like to simplify the code, so not really content with re-enabling timer A only, but so far didn't come up with anything useful; thinking on an alternate implementation similar to crop_rec - PoC in dm-spy-experiments/adtg_gui, nikfreak reported it working a while ago)
- fix raw-based exposure feedback in photo mode (not easy; I'll give it a try after being able to emulate an image capture in QEMU - already have some half-working local patches)
- evaluate the port status (review feedback from users - don't remember being overwhelmed by it lately, and I don't have access to a 70D to test it myself)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: esas on December 28, 2017, 08:55:23 AM
I merged in Nikfreaks work. New test build here (https://bitbucket.org/es_as/magic-lantern/downloads/).

I did a very fast test on my own camera. Now able to start lossless recording, but the result is not good:

(http://thumb.ibb.co/hw26jw/M28_1056_000000.jpg) (http://ibb.co/hw26jw)



Normal 14,12,10 bit recording looks OK.

Please test it and report back your findings.

Known issues:
*crop_rec doesn't work
*lossless FRSP doesn't work
*lossless recording starts, but result is not good

EDIT:Did some more test. Added comments above
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on December 28, 2017, 10:26:02 AM
image is too dark
(http://thumb.ibb.co/g1cgjw/christmas_tree.png) (http://ibb.co/g1cgjw)

up loading photos (http://imgbb.com/)


after decreasing the black level to zero in MLVProducer
(http://thumb.ibb.co/bvTMjw/2.png) (http://ibb.co/bvTMjw)

gif upload (http://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on December 28, 2017, 06:53:16 PM
Esas just loaded the latest you built.
Found that 2:35 aspect resolutions were that same 10,12,14bpp, had to set 5X to get above 1824pixels.
I was expecting something higher? What should I be looking for that is 4k?

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on December 28, 2017, 07:21:20 PM
And here we go again:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=21398.msg195271#msg195271
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg194803#msg194803
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Stathman on December 29, 2017, 06:21:23 PM
Quote from: esas on December 28, 2017, 08:55:23 AM
I merged in Nikfreaks work.

I did a very fast test on my own camera. Now able to start lossless recording, but the result is not good:

Normal 14,12,10 bit recording looks OK.

Please test it and report back your findings.

Known issues:
*crop_rec doesn't work
*lossless FRSP doesn't work
*lossless recording starts, but result is not good

EDIT:Did some more test. Added comments above

Thanks for the update!
Same results as yours.

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Badboy_428 on December 31, 2017, 05:48:50 AM
I have just heard of the Magic Lantern software and I am looking at putting in on my 70D. How stable is this as I notice its still listed as experimental and this is my only camera so I don't want to create a brick out of it.

Any help would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 01, 2018, 09:42:22 PM
So Walter base on your comment
Canon 70D at 3:2 does 5472 x 3648
5472/3 = 1824 (which is what I see with full AF)
3648/3 = 1216

So what's happening when I hit 5X that gets me to 1920?  Does it stop line skipping?
Then when I turn 3X video mode on, with centre crop, I should get 1920 right away but instead get 1856?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 02, 2018, 06:38:37 AM
Max. photo image resolution is indeed 5472 x 3648. But look at cr2hr output:

Camera          : Canon EOS 70D
Full size       : 5568 x 3708
Active area     : 5496 x 3670


Applies to all cams. Keep in mind processing depends on 32 bit blocks.
5496 mod 32 = 24 -> 5496 - 24 = 5472 (max. photo image resolution)
5568 mod 32 = 0 -> 5568/3 = 1856
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: esas on January 11, 2018, 07:42:35 PM
New build here (https://bitbucket.org/es_as/magic-lantern/downloads/).

Only minor tweak since last build. Looks like 14 bit lossless works, but the black level is wrong (green picture). Didn't have any luck trying to change it with mlv_dump. Maybe someone else can manage?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on January 12, 2018, 09:25:15 AM
Can't test as i am out of station at the moment. MlvProducer has the option to change the black level. It happen when 10bit/12bit raw was implemented in 70D
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: fjodor on January 12, 2018, 10:10:00 PM
Unfortunately 14bit-lossless is still broken in my tests. I use MLVP v3200. Perhaps the lossless compression in this build is a bit better than the previous build (see attachment), I do not know ...
Also the mlv_sound module seems broken in this Jan11-build and wont boot-up. To be honest I have never tested a 70d-build where the sound from mlv_sound was synchronous and / or continuous in a logical way with raw video. My workflow is MLVP > C-DNG > Resolve. Maybe I'm doing something wrong and someone has some good tips for usable audio.


(http://thumb.ibb.co/k4VLXR/70dlossless.jpg) (http://ibb.co/k4VLXR)


I'm hopeful that lossless compression will come to the 70d, hopefully with usable audio, fingers crossed :-p
Thanks again for everyone's hard work and commitment to ML
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on January 13, 2018, 06:08:18 PM
Just tested the January 11th build from esas. Unfortunately, I have to report that the files still come out like this:
(https://thumb.ibb.co/hSEk1m/M13_1752_00044.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hSEk1m)
 This was 12 bit lossless, global draw off/ highest resolution possible. 14bit looks the same. Does your 14 bit lossless come out differently @esas? The right blacklevelfor MLV files in MLV Producer is 127 by the way. Changing that is no problem with the new MLV Producer version, it works with the lossless files.

Fazit: Everything "works" but those pink "stripes" (more like bars really) arent exactly pretty ;). Is there anything else to test?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: farrellts on January 17, 2018, 12:06:30 PM
I was reviewing the list of Magic Lantern features which cannot be implemented on EOS 70D due to firmware limitations.  Okay, I don't know a thing about the CPU on this device or what language its firmware was written in, but I would imagine that somebody had to run a decompiler on the firmware at some point, while verifying what limitations it presents when porting Magic Lantern to run on it.  Furthermore, I would imagine, that if it could be demonstrated that the source code of decompiled firmware was sound enough to be compiled and link-edited to create machine code identical -- or at least functionally identical -- to the original firmware from which that source code was decompiled -- well, then I'd imagine the source code could then be tweaked so that the desired missing features of Magic Lantern would then run on EOS 70D.

Now, I know that's a lot of ifs -- and testing tweaked firmware would not only void warranty but could damage the camera.  But I imagine it could be done -- unless there is an actual hardware limitation on this camera beyond what the firmware will allow.  It might be foolish to try this ... but I cannot help wondering if somebody has?  Anybody in this forum perhaps?

As a software developer myself with pretty broad experience, I know the challenges and dangers inherent in a project like this.  It's certainly not something I would undertake alone.  I've worked with some very impressive decompilers, but have never seen one generate perfect source code which can be flawlessly compiled.  Perhaps if one wants higher-fidelity video, it might just be easier to go buy one of the increasingly-affordable 4K-capable cameras out there?  But I'd still like to pull more out of my 70D.

I'd be interested in comments on this.  Hope I am not going wildly off the range of topics which this forum hosts?

Please note that it is not my intention to disparage Magic Lantern as implemented on 70D.  I truly appreciate the work involved in creating and maintaining this build!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 17, 2018, 12:17:47 PM
ML does not alter or replace Canon firmware. ML doesn't (re)use Canon IP in its code. Therefore ML is not prone to legal action.
As far as I understand your request you want to replace Canon's firmware with a version where ML features are integrated in firmware. IMO this violates Canon IP. Won't happen here.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: eduperez on January 17, 2018, 04:52:36 PM
Quote from: farrellts on January 17, 2018, 12:06:30 PM
I was reviewing the list of Magic Lantern features which cannot be implemented on EOS 70D due to firmware limitations.  Okay, I don't know a thing about the CPU on this device or what language its firmware was written in, but I would imagine that somebody had to run a decompiler on the firmware at some point, while verifying what limitations it presents when porting Magic Lantern to run on it.  Furthermore, I would imagine, that if it could be demonstrated that the source code of decompiled firmware was sound enough to be compiled and link-edited to create machine code identical -- or at least functionally identical -- to the original firmware from which that source code was decompiled -- well, then I'd imagine the source code could then be tweaked so that the desired missing features of Magic Lantern would then run on EOS 70D.

Now, I know that's a lot of ifs -- and testing tweaked firmware would not only void warranty but could damage the camera.  But I imagine it could be done -- unless there is an actual hardware limitation on this camera beyond what the firmware will allow.  It might be foolish to try this ... but I cannot help wondering if somebody has?  Anybody in this forum perhaps?

That is not how it works...

Most of the firmware (at least the parts of it being executed on the main CPU) were (most probably) written in C. So far, all decompiling efforts have just translated machine code into assembler, and only for the purpose of studying how does the firmware work; it has never been translated into the original C (except probably some very specific parts, for illustration purposes). Besides, ML does not contain any of Canon's code, neither as binary, source code, or compiled from a decompilaton.

ML does not replace or substitute the original firmware, or even parts of it: what ML does is to interfere in specific points, hijacking the communication between different parts of the firmware, or between the firmware and the hardware; but the original untouched firmware is still in charge of the hardware, most of the time.

What you are proposing is a whole new beast... not only you need to produce a sorce code that can be compiled to match the current firmware, you also have to ensure that any modification you make to it does not break everything. I have still not heard of anyone decompiling the ASM into the original C, or any C code that can be compiled back and produce the same firmware, let alone some C that can be understood by humans. And then, just adding one single instruction means all code and data gets relocated, and thus all references must be updated.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: lojzik on January 26, 2018, 11:36:57 PM
magiclantern-Nightly.2018Jan23.70D112 tests
stubtest.log
[Pass] is_play_mode() => 0x1
[Pass] src = fio_malloc(size) => 0x42104094
[Pass] dst = fio_malloc(size) => 0x429080a0
[Pass] memcmp(dst, src, 4097) => 0xffffff80
[Pass] edmac_memcpy(dst, src, 4097) => 0x429080a0
[Pass] memcmp(dst, src, 4097) => 0x0
[Pass] edmac_memcpy(dst, src, 4097) => 0x429080a0
[Pass] memcmp(dst, src, size) => 0xffffffb8
[Pass] edmac_memcpy(dst, src, size) => 0x429080a0
[Pass] memcmp(dst, src, size) => 0x0
[Pass] memcmp(dst, src, size) => 0x67
[Pass] edmac_memcpy_start(dst, src, size) => 0x429080a0
       dt => 0x1828
[Pass] copied => 0x4015e0
[Pass] copied => 0x4015e0
[Pass] copied => 0x4015e0
[Pass] memcmp(dst, src, copied) => 0x0
[Pass] memcmp(dst, src, copied + 16) => 0x59
       edmac_memcpy_finish()
       free(src)
       free(dst)
Cache test A (EDMAC on BMP buffer)...
[Pass] bmp = bmp_load("ML/CROPMKS/CINESCO2.BMP", 1) => 0x127678
[Pass] old => 0x0
[Pass] irq => 0xc0
[Pass] differences => 0x8ef
[Pass] old => 0x0
[Pass] irq => 0xc0
[Pass] differences => 0x0
Cache test B (FIO on 8K buffer)...
[Pass] tries[0] => 0xe1
[Pass] tries[1] => 0xf1
[Pass] tries[2] => 0x11a
[Pass] tries[3] => 0xfc
[Pass] failr[0] => 0x6a
[Pass] failw[0] => 0x96
[Pass] failr[1] => 0x6b
[Pass] failw[1] => 0x0
[Pass] failr[2] => 0x0
[Pass] failw[2] => 0xca
[Pass] failr[3] => 0x0
[Pass] failw[3] => 0x0
       times[0] / tries[0] => 0x2b
       times[1] / tries[1] => 0x2f
       times[2] / tries[2] => 0x2f
       times[3] / tries[3] => 0x2d
Cache tests finished.

[Pass] f = FIO_CreateFile("test.dat") => 0x6
[Pass] FIO_WriteFile(f, (void*)0xFF000000, 0x10000) => 0x10000
[Pass] FIO_WriteFile(f, (void*)0xFF000000, 0x10000) => 0x10000
       FIO_CloseFile(f)
[Pass] FIO_GetFileSize("test.dat", &size) => 0x0
[Pass] size => 0x20000
[Pass] p = (void*)_alloc_dma_memory(0x20000) => 0x40933c08
[Pass] f = FIO_OpenFile("test.dat", O_RDONLY | O_SYNC) => 0x6
[Pass] FIO_ReadFile(f, p, 0x20000) => 0x20000
       FIO_CloseFile(f)
       _free_dma_memory(p)
[Pass] count => 0x3a98
[Pass] buf = fio_malloc(0x1000000) => 0x42104094
[Pass] FIO_GetFileSize_direct("test.dat") => 0x82000000
[Pass] f = FIO_OpenFile("test.dat", O_RDWR | O_SYNC) => 0x6
[Pass] FIO_SeekSkipFile(f, 0, SEEK_END) => 0x82000000
[Pass] FIO_WriteFile(f, buf, 0x10) => 0x10
[Pass] FIO_SeekSkipFile(f, -0x20, SEEK_END) => 0x81fffff0
[Pass] FIO_WriteFile(f, buf, 0x30) => 0x30
[Pass] FIO_SeekSkipFile(f, 0x20, SEEK_SET) => 0x20
[Pass] FIO_SeekSkipFile(f, 0x30, SEEK_CUR) => 0x50
[Pass] FIO_SeekSkipFile(f, -0x20, SEEK_CUR) => 0x30
[Pass] FIO_GetFileSize_direct("test.dat") => 0x82000020
[Pass] is_file("test.dat") => 0x1
[Pass] FIO_RemoveFile("test.dat") => 0x0
[Pass] is_file("test.dat") => 0x0
[Pass] SetTimerAfter(0, timer_cbr, overrun_cbr, 0) => 0x15
[Pass] timer_func => 0x2
[Pass] SetTimerAfter(1000, timer_cbr, overrun_cbr, 0) => 0x9b82
       msleep(900)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x0
       msleep(200)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x1
[Pass] ABS((timer_time/1000 - t0) - 1000) => 0x2
[Pass] ABS((timer_arg - ta0) - 1000) => 0xa
[Pass] timer = SetTimerAfter(1000, timer_cbr, overrun_cbr, 0) => 0x9bbe
       msleep(400)
       CancelTimer(timer)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x0
       msleep(1500)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x0
[Pass] SetHPTimerAfterNow(0, timer_cbr, overrun_cbr, 0) => 0x15
[Pass] timer_func => 0x2
[Pass] SetHPTimerAfterNow(100000, timer_cbr, overrun_cbr, 0) => 0x38470
       msleep(90)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x0
       msleep(20)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x1
[Pass] ABS(DeltaT(timer_time, t0) - 100000) => 0xe8
[Pass] ABS(DeltaT(timer_arg, ta0) - 100000) => 0xca
[Pass] ABS((get_us_clock_value() - t0) - 110000) => 0xe4
[Pass] SetHPTimerAfterNow(90000, next_tick_cbr, overrun_cbr, 0) => 0x38472
       msleep(80)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x0
       msleep(20)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x3
       msleep(80)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x3
       msleep(20)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x1
[Pass] ABS(DeltaT(timer_time, t0) - 300000) => 0x15c
[Pass] ABS(DeltaT(timer_arg, ta0) - 300000) => 0x13c
[Pass] ABS((get_us_clock_value() - t0) - 310000) => 0xfd
       t0 = *(uint32_t*)0xC0242014 => 0xa4051
       msleep(250)
       t1 = *(uint32_t*)0xC0242014 => 0xdf76a
[Pass] ABS(MOD(t1-t0, 1048576)/1000 - 250) => 0x7
       LoadCalendarFromRTC( &now )
       s0 = now.tm_sec => 0x39
       Date/time: 2018/01/26 23:12:57
       msleep(1500)
       LoadCalendarFromRTC( &now )
       s1 = now.tm_sec => 0x3a
[Pass] MOD(s1-s0, 60) => 0x1
[Pass] MOD(s1-s0, 60) => 0x1
       m0 = MALLOC_FREE_MEMORY => 0x37278
[Pass] p = (void*)_malloc(50*1024) => 0x1293c8
[Pass] CACHEABLE(p) => 0x1293c8
       m1 = MALLOC_FREE_MEMORY => 0x2aa68
       _free(p)
       m2 = MALLOC_FREE_MEMORY => 0x37278
[Pass] ABS((m0-m1) - 50*1024) => 0x10
[Pass] ABS(m0-m2) => 0x0
       m0 = GetFreeMemForAllocateMemory() => 0x258ff0
[Pass] p = (void*)_AllocateMemory(256*1024) => 0x933bc8
[Pass] CACHEABLE(p) => 0x933bc8
       m1 = GetFreeMemForAllocateMemory() => 0x218fe4
       _FreeMemory(p)
       m2 = GetFreeMemForAllocateMemory() => 0x258ff0
[Pass] ABS((m0-m1) - 256*1024) => 0xc
[Pass] ABS(m0-m2) => 0x0
       m01 = MALLOC_FREE_MEMORY => 0x37278
       m02 = GetFreeMemForAllocateMemory() => 0x258ff0
[Pass] p = (void*)_alloc_dma_memory(256*1024) => 0x40933c08
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x40933c08
[Pass] CACHEABLE(p) => 0x933c08
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(CACHEABLE(p)) => 0x40933c08
       _free_dma_memory(p)
[Pass] p = (void*)_shoot_malloc(24*1024*1024) => 0x42104074
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x42104074
       _shoot_free(p)
       m11 = MALLOC_FREE_MEMORY => 0x37278
       m12 = GetFreeMemForAllocateMemory() => 0x258ff0
[Pass] ABS(m01-m11) => 0x0
[Pass] ABS(m02-m12) => 0x0
[Pass] suite = shoot_malloc_suite_contig(24*1024*1024) => 0x1256e8
[Pass] suite->signature => 'MemSuite'
[Pass] suite->num_chunks => 0x1
[Pass] suite->size => 0x1800000
[Pass] chunk = GetFirstChunkFromSuite(suite) => 0x125710
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] chunk->size => 0x1800000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x42104070
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x42104070
       shoot_free_suite(suite); suite = 0; chunk = 0;
[Pass] suite = shoot_malloc_suite_contig(0) => 0x1256e8
[Pass] suite->signature => 'MemSuite'
[Pass] suite->num_chunks => 0x1
[Pass] suite->size => 0x2000000
[Pass] chunk = GetFirstChunkFromSuite(suite) => 0x125710
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] chunk->size => 0x2000000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x42104070
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x42104070
       shoot_free_suite(suite); suite = 0; chunk = 0;
[Pass] suite = shoot_malloc_suite(64*1024*1024) => 0x1256e8
[Pass] suite->signature => 'MemSuite'
[Pass] suite->num_chunks => 0xa
[Pass] suite->size => 0x4000000
[Pass] chunk = GetFirstChunkFromSuite(suite) => 0x125710
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x2000000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x42104070
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x42104070
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125770
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x220c000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x4410407c
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x4410407c
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x1257a8
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x22f4000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x5c9140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x5c9140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x1257e0
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x23dc000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x5a5140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x5a5140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125818
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x24c4000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x581140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x581140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125850
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x25ac000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x4af140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x4af140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125888
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x2694000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x48b140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x48b140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x1258c0
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x277c000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x467140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x467140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x1258f8
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x2864000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x443140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x443140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125930
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x4000000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x44400064
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x44400064
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x0
[Pass] total => 0x4000000
       shoot_free_suite(suite); suite = 0; chunk = 0;
[Pass] suite = shoot_malloc_suite(0) => 0x1256e8
[Pass] suite->signature => 'MemSuite'
[Pass] suite->num_chunks => 0x14
[Pass] suite->size => 0xf700000
[Pass] chunk = GetFirstChunkFromSuite(suite) => 0x125710
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x2000000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x42104070
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x42104070
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125770
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x220c000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x4410407c
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x4410407c
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x1257a8
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x22f4000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x5c9140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x5c9140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x1257e0
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x23dc000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x5a5140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x5a5140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125818
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x24c4000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x581140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x581140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125850
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x25ac000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x4af140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x4af140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125888
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x2694000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x48b140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x48b140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x1258c0
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x277c000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x467140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x467140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x1258f8
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x2864000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x443140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x443140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125930
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x4864000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x44400064
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x44400064
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125968
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x4b78000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x46400070
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x46400070
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x1259a0
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x6b78000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x46800064
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x46800064
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x1259d8
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x6e8c000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x48800070
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x48800070
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125a10
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x8e8c000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x48c00064
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x48c00064
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125a48
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x91a0000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x4ac00070
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x4ac00070
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125a80
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0xb1a0000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x55e00064
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x55e00064
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125ab8
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0xb4b4000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x57e00070
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x57e00070
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125af0
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0xd4b4000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x58200064
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x58200064
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125b28
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0xd7c8000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x5a200070
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x5a200070
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125b60
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0xf700000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x5a600064
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x5a600064
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x0
[Pass] total => 0xf700000
       shoot_free_suite(suite); suite = 0; chunk = 0;
[Pass] strlen("abc") => 0x3
[Pass] strlen("qwertyuiop") => 0xa
[Pass] strlen("") => 0x0
[Pass] strcpy(msg, "hi there") => 0x1ec2bc
[Pass] msg => 'hi there'
[Pass] snprintf(a, sizeof(a), "foo") => 0x3
[Pass] snprintf(b, sizeof(b), "foo") => 0x3
[Pass] strcmp(a, b) => 0x0
[Pass] snprintf(a, sizeof(a), "bar") => 0x3
[Pass] snprintf(b, sizeof(b), "baz") => 0x3
[Pass] strcmp(a, b) => 0xfffffff8
[Pass] snprintf(a, sizeof(a), "Display") => 0x7
[Pass] snprintf(b, sizeof(b), "Defishing") => 0x9
[Pass] strcmp(a, b) => 0x4
[Pass] snprintf(buf, 3, "%d", 1234) => 0x2
[Pass] buf => '12'
[Pass] memcpy(foo, bar, 6) => 0x1ec2a0
[Pass] foo => 'asdfghuiop'
[Pass] memset(bar, '*', 5) => 0x1ec280
[Pass] bar => '*****hjkl;'
       bzero32(bar + 5, 5)
[Pass] bar => '****'
       EngDrvOut(LCD_Palette[0], 0x1234)
[Pass] shamem_read(LCD_Palette[0]) => 0x1234
       call("TurnOnDisplay")
[Pass] DISPLAY_IS_ON => 0x1
       call("TurnOffDisplay")
[Pass] DISPLAY_IS_ON => 0x0
       call("TurnOnDisplay")
[Pass] DISPLAY_IS_ON => 0x1
       task_create("test", 0x1c, 0x1000, test_task, 0) => 0xd94600f2
[Pass] test_task_created => 0x1
[Pass] get_current_task_name() => 'run_test'
[Pass] task_max => 0x84
[Pass] task_max => 0x84
[Pass] mq = mq ? mq : (void*)msg_queue_create("test", 5) => 0xd94800c8
[Pass] msg_queue_post(mq, 0x1234567) => 0x0
[Pass] msg_queue_receive(mq, (struct event **) &m, 500) => 0x0
[Pass] m => 0x1234567
[Pass] msg_queue_receive(mq, (struct event **) &m, 500) => 0x9
[Pass] sem = sem ? sem : create_named_semaphore("test", 1) => 0xd94a0234
[Pass] take_semaphore(sem, 500) => 0x0
[Pass] take_semaphore(sem, 500) => 0x9
[Pass] give_semaphore(sem) => 0x0
[Pass] take_semaphore(sem, 500) => 0x0
[Pass] give_semaphore(sem) => 0x0
[Pass] rlock = rlock ? rlock : CreateRecursiveLock(0) => 0xd94c00de
[Pass] AcquireRecursiveLock(rlock, 500) => 0x0
[Pass] AcquireRecursiveLock(rlock, 500) => 0x0
[Pass] ReleaseRecursiveLock(rlock) => 0x0
[Pass] ReleaseRecursiveLock(rlock) => 0x0
[Pass] ReleaseRecursiveLock(rlock) => 0xf
       SetGUIRequestMode(1); msleep(1000);
[Pass] CURRENT_GUI_MODE => 0x1
       SetGUIRequestMode(2); msleep(1000);
[Pass] CURRENT_GUI_MODE => 0x2
       SetGUIRequestMode(0); msleep(1000);
[Pass] CURRENT_GUI_MODE => 0x0
[Pass] display_idle() => 0x1
       GUI_Control(BGMT_PLAY, 0, 0, 0); msleep(1000);
[Pass] PLAY_MODE => 0x1
[Pass] MENU_MODE => 0x0
       GUI_Control(BGMT_MENU, 0, 0, 0); msleep(1000);
[Pass] MENU_MODE => 0x1
[Pass] PLAY_MODE => 0x0
[Pass] dialog->type => 'DIALOG'
       GUI_Control(BGMT_MENU, 0, 0, 0); msleep(500);
[Pass] MENU_MODE => 0x0
[Pass] PLAY_MODE => 0x0
       SW1(1,100)
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
       SW1(0,100)
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] is_play_mode() => 0x1
[Pass] is_pure_play_photo_mode() => 0x1
[Pass] is_pure_play_movie_mode() => 0x0
[Pass] is_play_mode() => 0x1
[Pass] is_pure_play_photo_mode() => 0x0
[Pass] is_pure_play_movie_mode() => 0x0
[Pass] is_play_mode() => 0x1
[Pass] is_pure_play_photo_mode() => 0x0
[Pass] is_pure_play_movie_mode() => 0x1
[Pass] is_play_mode() => 0x1
[Pass] is_pure_play_photo_mode() => 0x0
[Pass] is_pure_play_movie_mode() => 0x0


luatest.log
===============================================================================
ML/SCRIPTS/API_TEST.LUA - 2018-1-26 23:27:27
===============================================================================

Strict mode tests...
Strict mode tests passed.

Generic tests...
camera = table:
  shutter = table:
    raw = 91
    apex = 4.374999
    ms = 48
    value = 0.048194
  aperture = table:
    raw = 32
    apex = 3.
    value = 2.799999
    min = table:
      raw = 32
      apex = 3.
      value = 2.799999
    max = table:
      raw = 80
      apex = 9
      value = 22.6
  iso = table:
    raw = 0
    apex = -4
    value = 0
  ec = table:
    raw = 0
    value = 0
  flash_ec = table:
    raw = 0
    value = 0
  kelvin = 6400
  mode = 3
  metering_mode = 3
  drive_mode = 0
  model = "Canon EOS 70D"
  model_short = "70D"
  firmware = "1.1.2"
  temperature = 156
  state = 0
  reboot = function: p
  bulb = function: p
  shoot = function: p
event = table:
  pre_shoot = nil
  post_shoot = nil
  shoot_task = nil
  seconds_clock = nil
  keypress = nil
  custom_picture_taking = nil
  intervalometer = nil
  config_save = nil
console = table:
  hide = function: p
  write = function: p
  show = function: p
  clear = function: p
lv = table:
  enabled = false
  paused = false
  running = false
  zoom = 1
  wait = function: p
  resume = function: p
  start = function: p
  info = function: p
  stop = function: p
  pause = function: p
lens = table:
  name = "EF-S24mm f/2.8 STM"
  focal_length = 0
  focus_distance = 90
  hyperfocal = 0
  dof_near = 0
  dof_far = 0
  af = true
  af_mode = 0
  focus = function: p
display = table:
  idle = true
  height = 480
  width = 720
  circle = function: p
  screenshot = function: p
  print = function: p
  off = function: p
  line = function: p
  draw = function: p
  pixel = function: p
  notify_box = function: p
  clear = function: p
  load = function: p
  rect = function: p
  on = function: p
key = table:
  last = 0
  press = function: p
  wait = function: p
menu = table:
  visible = false
  open = function: p
  get = function: p
  close = function: p
  new = function: p
  block = function: p
  set = function: p
testmenu = userdata:
  value = 0
  name = "Script API tests"
  help = "Various tests for the Lua scripting API."
  help2 = "When adding new Lua APIs, tests for them should go here."
  advanced = 0
  depends_on = 0
  edit_mode = 0
  hidden = false
  icon_type = 5
  jhidden = false
  max = 0
  min = 0
  selected = true
  shidden = false
  starred = false
  submenu_height = 0
  submenu_width = 0
  unit = 0
  works_best_in = 0
  run_in_separate_task = 0
  select = function: p
  update = nil
  info = nil
  rinfo = nil
  warning = nil
movie = table:
  recording = false
  start = function: p
  stop = function: p
dryos = table:
  clock = 15
  ms_clock = 15386
  prefix = "IMG_"
  dcim_dir = table:
    exists = true
    create = function: p
    children = function: p
    files = function: p
    parent = table:
      exists = true
      create = function: p
      children = function: p
      files = function: p
      parent = table:
        exists = true
        create = function: p
        children = function: p
        files = function: p
        parent = nil
        path = "B:/"
      path = "B:/DCIM/"
    path = "B:/DCIM/100CANON/"
  config_dir = table:
    exists = true
    create = function: p
    children = function: p
    files = function: p
    parent = table:
      exists = true
      create = function: p
      children = function: p
      files = function: p
      parent = table:
        exists = true
        create = function: p
        children = function: p
        files = function: p
        parent = nil
        path = "B:/"
      path = "ML/"
    path = "ML/SETTINGS/"
  ml_card = table:
    cluster_size = 32768
    drive_letter = "B"
    file_number = 4566
    folder_number = 100
    free_space = 15577824
    type = "SD"
    path = "B:/"
    _card_ptr = userdata
  shooting_card = table:
    cluster_size = 32768
    drive_letter = "B"
    file_number = 4566
    folder_number = 100
    free_space = 15577824
    type = "SD"
    path = "B:/"
    _card_ptr = userdata
  date = table:
    isdst = false
    min = 27
    month = 1
    day = 26
    wday = 6
    year = 2018
    yday = 26
    hour = 23
    sec = 28
  call = function: p
  directory = function: p
  remove = function: p
interval = table:
  time = 10
  count = 0
  running = 0
  stop = function: p
battery = table:
  level = 86
  id = 1
  performance = 0
  time = 9288
  drain_rate = 33
task = table:
  yield = function: p
  create = function: p
property = table:
Generic tests completed.

Module tests...
Copy test: autoexec.bin -> tmp.bin
Copy test OK
Append test: tmp.txt
Append test OK
Testing exposure settings, module 'camera'...
Camera    : Canon EOS 70D (70D) 1.1.2
Lens      : EF-S24mm f/2.8 STM
Shoot mode: 3
Shutter   : ,20 (raw 91, 0.048194s, 48ms, apex 4.374999)
Aperture  : 2.8 (raw 32, f/2.799999, apex 3.)
Av range  : 2.8..22 (raw 32..80, f/2.799999..f/22.6, apex 3...9)
ISO       : AutoISO (raw 0, 0, apex -4)
EC        : 0.0 (raw 0, 0 EV)
Flash EC  : 0.0 (raw 0, 0 EV)
Setting shutter to random values...
Setting ISO to random values...
Setting aperture to random values...
Please switch to Av mode.
Setting EC to random values...
Setting Flash EC to random values...
Exposure tests completed.

Testing module 'lv'...
Starting LiveView...
Setting zoom to x1...
Setting zoom to x5...
Setting zoom to x10...
Setting zoom to x5...
Setting zoom to x1...
Setting zoom to x10...
Setting zoom to x1...
Pausing LiveView...
Resuming LiveView...
Stopping LiveView...
LiveView tests completed.

Focus distance: 250
Focusing backward...
Focus distance: 6310
Focusing forward with step size 3, wait=true...
.................
Focus distance: 180
Focusing backward with step size 3, wait=true...
.................
Focus distance: 6310
Focus range: 17 steps forward, 17 steps backward.
Focusing forward with step size 3, wait=false...
.................
Focus distance: 180
Focusing backward with step size 3, wait=false...
.................
Focus distance: 655350
Focus range: 17 steps forward, 17 steps backward.
Focusing forward with step size 2, wait=true...
...
Focus distance: 170
Focusing backward with step size 2, wait=true...
...
Focus distance: 655350
Focus range: 125 steps forward, 125 steps backward.
Focusing forward with step size 2, wait=false...
...
Focus distance: 170
Focusing backward with step size 2, wait=false...
...
Focus distance: 655350
Focus range: 125 steps forward, 125 steps backward.
Focusing forward with step size 1, wait=true...
...
Focus distance: 170
Focusing backward with step size 1, wait=true...
...
Focus distance: 655350
Focus range: 454 steps forward, 454 steps backward.
Focusing forward with step size 1, wait=false...
...
Focus distance: 170
Focusing backward with step size 1, wait=false...
...
Focus distance: 655350
Focus range: 454 steps forward, 454 steps backward.
Focus test completed.

Done! 
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Anantajit on February 02, 2018, 08:51:09 AM
Hi. What is new in the jan23 release? I am no developer, just a user and can't seem to find any news about it, that I understand.
Thanks for your amazing work!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 02, 2018, 09:08:38 AM
Top of page -> Downloads -> Download nightly builds -> 70D -> Change log.
Some bugs removed ...
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on February 02, 2018, 09:11:28 AM
Just backend work towards unification. How is it working, compared to previous build?

I don't have a 70D to try; you may notice:
- null pointer errors are now reported (you may emulate one with the selftest module)
- buttons no longer working (hopefully not)
- some additional messages if you compile from the same changeset for running in QEMU
- random stuff might be broken, please report if you find any (can't predict exactly what, see for example this 6D bug (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15088.msg194785#msg194785))
- fixes for other camera models (so they can all run from the same source tree) - see the Lua call for testers (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14828.msg196192#msg196192) to try these changes on other models.

Yeah, unification requires work from owners of all other cameras. So far, only received reports on a few models...
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: kalamuni on February 05, 2018, 12:53:38 PM
Hi
The very recent update i have installed in my camera (70D). Here i cant see any section to change the Bit depth . I dont even know what is the default BPP i am working with. sir  Pls answer it... as am unable to switch through 14/12/10 bpp.
regards 
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: theBilalFakhouri on February 05, 2018, 01:14:56 PM
Quote from: kalamuni on February 05, 2018, 12:53:38 PM
Hi
The very recent update i have installed in my camera (70D). Here i cant see any section to change the Bit depth . I dont even know what is the default BPP i am working with. sir  Pls answer it... as am unable to switch through 14/12/10 bpp.
regards
You have downloaded the latest nightly build update (it doesn't have 10-12bit yet).
So you will find the 10-12 bit depth build in experiments section under 10/12-bit RAW video (scroll down).
https://builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: kalamuni on February 06, 2018, 10:32:18 AM
theBilalFakhouri  thank you for info   :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: sangev on February 10, 2018, 01:03:48 AM
Hello! Recently while I was filming with ML in my SD card, my 70D froze. I tried playing around with it but nothing would respond.
So I decided to turn it off, and once I did I could never turn it on again. Tried using different SD cards, different batteries, and still, it won't turn on! I followed this forum but it didn't fix my camera! https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14732

Anybody have any suggestions? Really want my 70D up and running!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on February 11, 2018, 08:08:42 PM
Ensure you have Canon v1.1.2 firmware.  ** If you ever had ML running recently then you must be v1.1.2.
Ok try reformating your card.  ExFat no quick. 
After done, Copy a jpg file, and read it, just to ensure your card reads/writes. Then blow it away.
Copy ML from nightlies (port in progress) to your SD card. Ensure its extracted prior to copy. It must be only item on card.
Put SD card in camera.
Remove batteries from camera for 60s.
Reboot camera.
Assuming it comes up, go to Fn setting to check version.
Install ML. (you should see some messages as it installs) and then turn camera off/on when instructed.

These above steps have yet to fail me, from a number of crashes, however I have had to remove the batteries twice for 60s, and repeat those reboot/install steps, especially if I am too quick or the bug is in overwriting data from a movie being processed.



Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on February 15, 2018, 08:44:11 PM
      @ S'M'A'

   Thanks much for the info. Just tried on My Dead 70D & Sadly It's still Dead.

                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on February 17, 2018, 01:03:34 AM
Noticed focus stacking & related features might work with latest lua_fix build (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=17525.msg197401#msg197401) (2018Feb17); conclusion drawn from lojzik's test (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14828.msg196460#msg196460).

These features were enabled temporarily just for this particular build (not committed to the repository); to commit them, please report back. If compiling from source, enable them from features.h (and update the comments in lens.c with your findings, since they were written for an older version of the PROP_LV_FOCUS_DONE handler).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on February 18, 2018, 07:56:58 AM
shooting in raw is not possible anymore for me after upgrading to 70D. i get color moire in all my clips. when i shoot wit my 550D & 650D, it hapeen only if i shoot in 50/60fps and not in 24/25fps. any 70D users experiencing  the same?

(https://thumb.ibb.co/dutZWS/color_moire.png) (https://ibb.co/dutZWS)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on February 19, 2018, 02:46:32 AM
70D has two solutions for moire. 3X video mode is a centre crop without moire.  However to get best H264 video it requires a flat profile, All-I compression, denoise, and post processing.  70D does shoot 10bit raw, check my back posts for resolutions but they will have the moire.  The second approach is a VAF by Mosaic, which generally gets rid of moire aliasing. 
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on February 19, 2018, 10:32:51 AM
#shootmealready   im aware of the vaf but i don think i wil spend 295$ buying a filter. i bought a 70D sometime back since i love its auto focus and sold out my 650D since pink dots of 650D was annoying so much. shooting in crop mode in a 70D make its auto focus unusable. my question is do you also get moire like me when you shoot raw? or is it only me. i have seen some good raw video shoot with a 70D on youtube
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: lojzik on February 19, 2018, 12:01:21 PM
fast magiclantern-Nightly.2018Feb17.70D112 build test
stubtest.log (Test complete, 12810 passed, 10 failed.)
[Pass] is_play_mode() => 0x1
[Pass] src = fio_malloc(size) => 0x4238c0a8
[Pass] dst = fio_malloc(size) => 0x42b900b4
[Pass] memcmp(dst, src, 4097) => 0xffffffd8
[Pass] edmac_memcpy(dst, src, 4097) => 0x42b900b4
[Pass] memcmp(dst, src, 4097) => 0x0
[Pass] edmac_memcpy(dst, src, 4097) => 0x42b900b4
[Pass] memcmp(dst, src, size) => 0xffffffb9
[Pass] edmac_memcpy(dst, src, size) => 0x42b900b4
[Pass] memcmp(dst, src, size) => 0x0
[Pass] memcmp(dst, src, size) => 0x8
[Pass] edmac_memcpy_start(dst, src, size) => 0x42b900b4
       dt => 0x16e6
[Pass] copied => 0x402000
[Pass] copied => 0x402000
[Pass] copied => 0x402000
[Pass] memcmp(dst, src, copied) => 0x0
[Pass] memcmp(dst, src, copied + 16) => 0xffffff9f
       edmac_memcpy_finish()
       free(src)
       free(dst)
Cache test A (EDMAC on BMP buffer)...
[Pass] bmp = bmp_load("ML/CROPMKS/CINESCO2.BMP", 1) => 0x1268e8
[Pass] old => 0x0
[Pass] irq => 0xc0
[Pass] differences => 0x1140
[Pass] old => 0x0
[Pass] irq => 0xc0
[Pass] differences => 0x0
Cache test B (FIO on 8K buffer)...
[Pass] tries[0] => 0x104
[Pass] tries[1] => 0xf6
[Pass] tries[2] => 0xf1
[Pass] tries[3] => 0xfd
[Pass] failr[0] => 0x80
[Pass] failw[0] => 0xa4
[Pass] failr[1] => 0x63
[Pass] failw[1] => 0x0
[Pass] failr[2] => 0x0
[Pass] failw[2] => 0x97
[Pass] failr[3] => 0x0
[Pass] failw[3] => 0x0
       times[0] / tries[0] => 0x32
       times[1] / tries[1] => 0x35
       times[2] / tries[2] => 0x33
       times[3] / tries[3] => 0x37
Cache tests finished.

[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[FAIL] wait_focus_status(1000, 3) => 0x0
[FAIL] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] wait_focus_status(1000, 3) => 0x0
[Pass] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[Pass] wait_focus_status(1000, 3) => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[FAIL] wait_focus_status(1000, 3) => 0x0
[FAIL] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] wait_focus_status(1000, 3) => 0x0
[Pass] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[Pass] wait_focus_status(1000, 3) => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[FAIL] wait_focus_status(1000, 3) => 0x0
[FAIL] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] wait_focus_status(1000, 3) => 0x0
[Pass] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[Pass] wait_focus_status(1000, 3) => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[FAIL] wait_focus_status(1000, 3) => 0x0
[FAIL] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] wait_focus_status(1000, 3) => 0x0
[Pass] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[Pass] wait_focus_status(1000, 3) => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[FAIL] wait_focus_status(1000, 3) => 0x0
[FAIL] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] wait_focus_status(1000, 3) => 0x0
[Pass] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[Pass] wait_focus_status(1000, 3) => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[Pass] get_focus_confirmation() => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] get_focus_confirmation() => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[Pass] get_focus_confirmation() => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[Pass] get_focus_confirmation() => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] get_focus_confirmation() => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[Pass] get_focus_confirmation() => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[Pass] get_focus_confirmation() => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] get_focus_confirmation() => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[Pass] get_focus_confirmation() => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[Pass] get_focus_confirmation() => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] get_focus_confirmation() => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[Pass] get_focus_confirmation() => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[Pass] get_focus_confirmation() => 0x1
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] get_focus_confirmation() => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
[Pass] get_focus_confirmation() => 0x0
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] lv_focus_status => 0x1
[Pass] f = FIO_CreateFile("test.dat") => 0x6
[Pass] FIO_WriteFile(f, (void*)0xFF000000, 0x10000) => 0x10000
[Pass] FIO_WriteFile(f, (void*)0xFF000000, 0x10000) => 0x10000
       FIO_CloseFile(f)
[Pass] FIO_GetFileSize("test.dat", &size) => 0x0
[Pass] size => 0x20000
[Pass] p = (void*)_alloc_dma_memory(0x20000) => 0x40934338
[Pass] f = FIO_OpenFile("test.dat", O_RDONLY | O_SYNC) => 0x6
[Pass] FIO_ReadFile(f, p, 0x20000) => 0x20000
       FIO_CloseFile(f)
       _free_dma_memory(p)
[Pass] count => 0x3a98
[Pass] buf = fio_malloc(0x1000000) => 0x4238c0a8
[Pass] FIO_GetFileSize_direct("test.dat") => 0x82000000
[Pass] f = FIO_OpenFile("test.dat", O_RDWR | O_SYNC) => 0x6
[Pass] FIO_SeekSkipFile(f, 0, SEEK_END) => 0x82000000
[Pass] FIO_WriteFile(f, buf, 0x10) => 0x10
[Pass] FIO_SeekSkipFile(f, -0x20, SEEK_END) => 0x81fffff0
[Pass] FIO_WriteFile(f, buf, 0x30) => 0x30
[Pass] FIO_SeekSkipFile(f, 0x20, SEEK_SET) => 0x20
[Pass] FIO_SeekSkipFile(f, 0x30, SEEK_CUR) => 0x50
[Pass] FIO_SeekSkipFile(f, -0x20, SEEK_CUR) => 0x30
[Pass] FIO_GetFileSize_direct("test.dat") => 0x82000020
[Pass] is_file("test.dat") => 0x1
[Pass] FIO_RemoveFile("test.dat") => 0x0
[Pass] is_file("test.dat") => 0x0
[Pass] SetTimerAfter(0, timer_cbr, overrun_cbr, 0) => 0x15
[Pass] timer_func => 0x2
[Pass] SetTimerAfter(1000, timer_cbr, overrun_cbr, 0) => 0xa446
       msleep(900)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x0
       msleep(200)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x1
[Pass] ABS((timer_time/1000 - t0) - 1000) => 0x7
[Pass] ABS((timer_arg - ta0) - 1000) => 0xa
[Pass] timer = SetTimerAfter(1000, timer_cbr, overrun_cbr, 0) => 0xa488
       msleep(400)
       CancelTimer(timer)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x0
       msleep(1500)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x0
[Pass] SetHPTimerAfterNow(0, timer_cbr, overrun_cbr, 0) => 0x15
[Pass] timer_func => 0x2
[Pass] SetHPTimerAfterNow(100000, timer_cbr, overrun_cbr, 0) => 0x2d56a
       msleep(90)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x0
       msleep(20)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x1
[Pass] ABS(DeltaT(timer_time, t0) - 100000) => 0xf7
[Pass] ABS(DeltaT(timer_arg, ta0) - 100000) => 0xd6
[Pass] ABS((get_us_clock_value() - t0) - 110000) => 0xffffffa1
[Pass] SetHPTimerAfterNow(90000, next_tick_cbr, overrun_cbr, 0) => 0x2d56c
       msleep(80)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x0
       msleep(20)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x3
       msleep(80)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x3
       msleep(20)
[Pass] timer_func => 0x1
[Pass] ABS(DeltaT(timer_time, t0) - 300000) => 0x24
[Pass] ABS(DeltaT(timer_arg, ta0) - 300000) => 0x3
[Pass] ABS((get_us_clock_value() - t0) - 310000) => 0xffffffa7
       t0 = *(uint32_t*)0xC0242014 => 0x7f260
       msleep(250)
       t1 = *(uint32_t*)0xC0242014 => 0xba69c
[Pass] ABS(MOD(t1-t0, 1048576)/1000 - 250) => 0x8
       LoadCalendarFromRTC( &now )
       s0 = now.tm_sec => 0x8
       Date/time: 2018/02/19 11:38:08
       msleep(1500)
       LoadCalendarFromRTC( &now )
       s1 = now.tm_sec => 0x9
[Pass] MOD(s1-s0, 60) => 0x1
[Pass] MOD(s1-s0, 60) => 0x1
       m0 = MALLOC_FREE_MEMORY => 0x37940
[Pass] p = (void*)_malloc(50*1024) => 0x128628
[Pass] CACHEABLE(p) => 0x128628
       m1 = MALLOC_FREE_MEMORY => 0x2b130
       _free(p)
       m2 = MALLOC_FREE_MEMORY => 0x37940
[Pass] ABS((m0-m1) - 50*1024) => 0x10
[Pass] ABS(m0-m2) => 0x0
       m0 = GetFreeMemForAllocateMemory() => 0x2578c0
[Pass] p = (void*)_AllocateMemory(128*1024) => 0x9342f8
[Pass] CACHEABLE(p) => 0x9342f8
       m1 = GetFreeMemForAllocateMemory() => 0x2378b4
       _FreeMemory(p)
       m2 = GetFreeMemForAllocateMemory() => 0x2578c0
[Pass] ABS((m0-m1) - 128*1024) => 0xc
[Pass] ABS(m0-m2) => 0x0
       m01 = MALLOC_FREE_MEMORY => 0x37940
       m02 = GetFreeMemForAllocateMemory() => 0x2578c0
[Pass] p = (void*)_alloc_dma_memory(128*1024) => 0x40934338
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x40934338
[Pass] CACHEABLE(p) => 0x934338
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(CACHEABLE(p)) => 0x40934338
       _free_dma_memory(p)
[Pass] p = (void*)_shoot_malloc(16*1024*1024) => 0x4238c098
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x4238c098
       _shoot_free(p)
       m11 = MALLOC_FREE_MEMORY => 0x37940
       m12 = GetFreeMemForAllocateMemory() => 0x257920
[Pass] ABS(m01-m11) => 0x0
[Pass] ABS(m02-m12) => 0x60
[Pass] suite = shoot_malloc_suite_contig(16*1024*1024) => 0x125340
[Pass] suite->signature => 'MemSuite'
[Pass] suite->num_chunks => 0x1
[Pass] suite->size => 0x1000000
[Pass] chunk = GetFirstChunkFromSuite(suite) => 0x125368
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] chunk->size => 0x1000000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x4238c094
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x4238c094
       shoot_free_suite(suite); suite = 0; chunk = 0;
[Pass] suite = shoot_malloc_suite_contig(0) => 0x125340
[Pass] suite->signature => 'MemSuite'
[Pass] suite->num_chunks => 0x1
[Pass] suite->size => 0x2000000
[Pass] chunk = GetFirstChunkFromSuite(suite) => 0x125368
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] chunk->size => 0x2000000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x48c00064
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x48c00064
       largest_shoot_block = suite->size => 0x2000000
[INFO] largest_shoot_block: 32MB
       shoot_free_suite(suite); suite = 0; chunk = 0;
[Pass] suite = shoot_malloc_suite(largest_shoot_block + 1024*1024) => 0x125340
[Pass] suite->signature => 'MemSuite'
[Pass] suite->num_chunks => 0x2
[Pass] suite->size => 0x2100000
[Pass] chunk = GetFirstChunkFromSuite(suite) => 0x125368
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x1f84000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x4238c094
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x4238c094
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x1253c8
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x2100000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x48c00064
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x48c00064
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x0
[Pass] total => 0x2100000
       shoot_free_suite(suite); suite = 0; chunk = 0;
[Pass] suite = shoot_malloc_suite(0) => 0x125340
[Pass] suite->signature => 'MemSuite'
[Pass] suite->num_chunks => 0x14
[Pass] suite->size => 0xf700000
[Pass] chunk = GetFirstChunkFromSuite(suite) => 0x125368
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x1f84000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x4238c094
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x4238c094
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x1253c8
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x3f84000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x48c00064
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x48c00064
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125400
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x4298000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x4ac00070
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x4ac00070
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125438
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x4380000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x48b140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x48b140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125470
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x4468000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x467140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x467140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x1254a8
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x4550000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x5c9140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x5c9140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x1254e0
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x4638000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x5a5140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x5a5140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125518
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x4720000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x581140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x581140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125550
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x4808000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x4af140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x4af140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125588
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x48f0000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x443140e4
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x443140e4
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x1255c0
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x68f0000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x55e00064
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x55e00064
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x1255f8
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x6c04000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x57e00070
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x57e00070
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125630
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x8c04000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x58200064
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x58200064
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125668
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0x8f18000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x5a200070
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x5a200070
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x1256a0
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0xaf18000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x5a600064
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x5a600064
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x1256d8
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0xb22c000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x5c600070
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x5c600070
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125710
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0xd22c000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x44400064
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x44400064
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125748
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0xd540000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x46400070
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x46400070
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x125780
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0xf540000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x46800064
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x46800064
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x1257b8
[Pass] chunk->signature => 'MemChunk'
[Pass] total += chunk->size => 0xf700000
[Pass] p = GetMemoryAddressOfMemoryChunk(chunk) => 0x48800070
[Pass] UNCACHEABLE(p) => 0x48800070
       chunk = GetNextMemoryChunk(suite, chunk) => 0x0
[Pass] total => 0xf700000
       shoot_free_suite(suite); suite = 0; chunk = 0;
[Pass] strlen("abc") => 0x3
[Pass] strlen("qwertyuiop") => 0xa
[Pass] strlen("") => 0x0
[Pass] strcpy(msg, "hi there") => 0x1ebeb4
[Pass] msg => 'hi there'
[Pass] snprintf(a, sizeof(a), "foo") => 0x3
[Pass] snprintf(b, sizeof(b), "foo") => 0x3
[Pass] strcmp(a, b) => 0x0
[Pass] snprintf(a, sizeof(a), "bar") => 0x3
[Pass] snprintf(b, sizeof(b), "baz") => 0x3
[Pass] strcmp(a, b) => 0xfffffff8
[Pass] snprintf(a, sizeof(a), "Display") => 0x7
[Pass] snprintf(b, sizeof(b), "Defishing") => 0x9
[Pass] strcmp(a, b) => 0x4
[Pass] snprintf(buf, 3, "%d", 1234) => 0x2
[Pass] buf => '12'
[Pass] memcpy(foo, bar, 6) => 0x1ebe80
[Pass] foo => 'asdfghuiop'
[Pass] memset(bar, '*', 5) => 0x1ebe60
[Pass] bar => '*****hjkl;'
       bzero32(bar + 5, 5)
[Pass] bar => '****'
       EngDrvOut(LCD_Palette[0], 0x1234)
[Pass] shamem_read(LCD_Palette[0]) => 0x1234
       call("TurnOnDisplay")
[Pass] DISPLAY_IS_ON => 0x1
       call("TurnOffDisplay")
[Pass] DISPLAY_IS_ON => 0x0
       call("TurnOnDisplay")
[Pass] DISPLAY_IS_ON => 0x1
       task_create("test", 0x1c, 0x1000, test_task, 0) => 0xde2200ee
[Pass] test_task_created => 0x1
[Pass] get_current_task_name() => 'run_test'
[Pass] get_task_name_from_id(current_task->taskId) => 'run_test'
[Pass] task_max => 0x84
[Pass] task_max => 0x84
[Pass] mq = mq ? mq : (void*)msg_queue_create("test", 5) => 0xde2400c6
[Pass] msg_queue_post(mq, 0x1234567) => 0x0
[Pass] msg_queue_receive(mq, (struct event **) &m, 500) => 0x0
[Pass] m => 0x1234567
[Pass] msg_queue_receive(mq, (struct event **) &m, 500) => 0x9
[Pass] sem = sem ? sem : create_named_semaphore("test", 1) => 0xde2602bc
[Pass] take_semaphore(sem, 500) => 0x0
[Pass] take_semaphore(sem, 500) => 0x9
[Pass] give_semaphore(sem) => 0x0
[Pass] take_semaphore(sem, 500) => 0x0
[Pass] give_semaphore(sem) => 0x0
[Pass] rlock = rlock ? rlock : CreateRecursiveLock(0) => 0xde2800b0
[Pass] AcquireRecursiveLock(rlock, 500) => 0x0
[Pass] AcquireRecursiveLock(rlock, 500) => 0x0
[Pass] ReleaseRecursiveLock(rlock) => 0x0
[Pass] ReleaseRecursiveLock(rlock) => 0x0
[Pass] ReleaseRecursiveLock(rlock) => 0xf
       SetGUIRequestMode(1); msleep(1000);
[Pass] CURRENT_GUI_MODE => 0x1
       SetGUIRequestMode(2); msleep(1000);
[Pass] CURRENT_GUI_MODE => 0x2
       SetGUIRequestMode(0); msleep(1000);
[Pass] CURRENT_GUI_MODE => 0x0
[Pass] display_idle() => 0x1
       GUI_Control(BGMT_PLAY, 0, 0, 0); msleep(1000);
[Pass] PLAY_MODE => 0x1
[Pass] MENU_MODE => 0x0
       GUI_Control(BGMT_MENU, 0, 0, 0); msleep(1000);
[Pass] MENU_MODE => 0x1
[Pass] PLAY_MODE => 0x0
[Pass] dialog->type => 'DIALOG'
       GUI_Control(BGMT_MENU, 0, 0, 0); msleep(500);
[Pass] MENU_MODE => 0x0
[Pass] PLAY_MODE => 0x0
       SW1(1,100)
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
       SW1(0,100)
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] is_play_mode() => 0x1
[Pass] is_pure_play_photo_mode() => 0x1
[Pass] is_pure_play_movie_mode() => 0x0
[Pass] is_play_mode() => 0x1
[Pass] is_pure_play_photo_mode() => 0x0
[Pass] is_pure_play_movie_mode() => 0x0
[Pass] is_play_mode() => 0x1
[Pass] is_pure_play_photo_mode() => 0x0
[Pass] is_pure_play_movie_mode() => 0x1
[Pass] is_play_mode() => 0x1
[Pass] is_pure_play_photo_mode() => 0x0
[Pass] is_pure_play_movie_mode() => 0x0
=========================================================
Test complete, 12810 passed, 10 failed.
.


luatest.log (no errors)
===============================================================================
ML/SCRIPTS/API_TEST.LUA - 2018-2-19 11:40:19
===============================================================================

Strict mode tests...
Strict mode tests passed.

Generic tests...
arg = table:
  [0] = "API_TEST.LUA"
camera = table:
  shutter = table:
    raw = 0
    apex = -7.
    ms = 0
    value = 0
  aperture = table:
    raw = 35
    apex = 3.375
    value = 3.2
    min = table:
      raw = 22
      apex = 1.75
      value = 1.8
    max = table:
      raw = 80
      apex = 9.
      value = 22.6
  iso = table:
    raw = 0
    apex = 0
    value = 0
  ec = table:
    raw = 0
    value = 0
  flash_ec = table:
    raw = 0
    value = 0
  kelvin = 6400
  mode = 2
  metering_mode = 3
  drive_mode = 19
  model = "Canon EOS 70D"
  model_short = "70D"
  firmware = "1.1.2"
  temperature = 161
  gui = table:
    menu = false
    play = false
    play_photo = false
    play_movie = false
    qr = false
    idle = true
  reboot = function: p
  wait = function: p
  burst = function: p
  bulb = function: p
  shoot = function: p
event = table:
  pre_shoot = nil
  post_shoot = nil
  shoot_task = nil
  seconds_clock = nil
  keypress = nil
  custom_picture_taking = nil
  intervalometer = nil
  config_save = nil
console = table:
  write = function: p
  hide = function: p
  clear = function: p
  show = function: p
lv = table:
  enabled = false
  paused = false
  running = false
  zoom = 1
  overlays = false
  pause = function: p
  wait = function: p
  start = function: p
  resume = function: p
  info = function: p
  stop = function: p
lens = table:
  name = "EF50mm f/1.8 STM"
  focal_length = 50
  focus_distance = 655350
  hyperfocal = 41218
  dof_near = 38790
  dof_far = 1000000
  af = true
  af_mode = 0
  autofocus = function: p
  focus = function: p
display = table:
  idle = nil
  height = 480
  width = 720
  off = function: p
  rect = function: p
  line = function: p
  print = function: p
  on = function: p
  notify_box = function: p
  screenshot = function: p
  draw = function: p
  pixel = function: p
  circle = function: p
  load = function: p
  clear = function: p
key = table:
  last = 10
  wait = function: p
  press = function: p
menu = table:
  visible = false
  close = function: p
  set = function: p
  new = function: p
  open = function: p
  block = function: p
  get = function: p
  select = function: p
movie = table:
  recording = false
  stop = function: p
  start = function: p
dryos = table:
  clock = 22
  ms_clock = 23010
  image_prefix = "IMG_"
  dcim_dir = table:
    exists = true
    create = function: p
    children = function: p
    files = function: p
    parent = table:
      exists = true
      create = function: p
      children = function: p
      files = function: p
      parent = table:
        exists = true
        create = function: p
        children = function: p
        files = function: p
        parent = nil
        path = "B:/"
      path = "B:/DCIM/"
    path = "B:/DCIM/100CANON/"
  config_dir = table:
    exists = true
    create = function: p
    children = function: p
    files = function: p
    parent = table:
      exists = true
      create = function: p
      children = function: p
      files = function: p
      parent = table:
        exists = true
        create = function: p
        children = function: p
        files = function: p
        parent = nil
        path = "B:/"
      path = "ML/"
    path = "ML/SETTINGS/"
  ml_card = table:
    cluster_size = 32768
    drive_letter = "B"
    file_number = 4848
    folder_number = 100
    free_space = 10832864
    type = "SD"
    _card_ptr = userdata
    path = "B:/"
  shooting_card = table:
    cluster_size = 32768
    drive_letter = "B"
    file_number = 4848
    folder_number = 100
    free_space = 10832864
    type = "SD"
    _card_ptr = userdata
    path = "B:/"
  date = table:
    year = 2018
    day = 19
    wday = 2
    min = 40
    sec = 21
    hour = 11
    yday = 50
    isdst = false
    month = 2
  remove = function: p
  rename = function: p
  directory = function: p
  call = function: p
interval = table:
  time = 10
  count = 0
  running = false
  stop = function: p
battery = table:
  level = 58
  id = 1
  performance = 0
  time = nil
  drain_rate = 21
task = table:
  create = function: p
  yield = function: p
property = table:
Generic tests completed.

Module tests...
Testing file I/O...
Copy test: autoexec.bin -> tmp.bin
Copy test OK
Append test: tmp.txt
Append test OK
Rename test: apple.txt -> banana.txt
Rename test OK
Rename test: apple.txt -> ML/banana.txt
Rename test OK
File I/O tests completed.

Testing Canon GUI functions...
Enter MENU mode...
Enter PLAY mode...
Enter MENU mode...
Exit MENU mode...
Start LiveView...
Enter MENU mode...
Exit MENU mode...
Enter PLAY mode...
Enter MENU mode...
Enter MENU mode...
Exit MENU mode...
Enter MENU mode...
Exit MENU mode...
Pause LiveView...
Enter MENU mode...
Enter MENU mode...
Exit MENU mode...
Enter PLAY mode...
Enter MENU mode...
Exit MENU mode...
Stop LiveView...
Enter PLAY mode...
Enter PLAY mode...
Enter MENU mode...
Enter MENU mode...
Enter MENU mode...
Exit MENU mode...
Start LiveView...
Pause LiveView...
Enter MENU mode...
Enter MENU mode...
Enter MENU mode...
Exit MENU mode...
Stop LiveView...
Enter PLAY mode...
Enter PLAY mode...
Exit PLAY mode...
Enter MENU mode...
Enter PLAY mode...
Exit PLAY mode...
Start LiveView...
Enter PLAY mode...
Enter MENU mode...
Enter MENU mode...
Exit MENU mode...
Stop LiveView...
Start LiveView...
Enter PLAY mode...
Enter PLAY mode...
Enter PLAY mode...
Enter MENU mode...
Enter PLAY mode...
Enter PLAY mode...
Exit PLAY mode...
Pause LiveView...
Enter PLAY mode...
Enter PLAY mode...
Enter PLAY mode...
Exit PLAY mode...
Pause LiveView...
Enter MENU mode...
Exit MENU mode...
Enter MENU mode...
Enter PLAY mode...
Exit PLAY mode...
Pause LiveView...
Resume LiveView...
Pause LiveView...
Resume LiveView...
Enter PLAY mode...
Enter MENU mode...
Enter PLAY mode...
Enter PLAY mode...
Enter MENU mode...
Exit MENU mode...
Pause LiveView...
Enter MENU mode...
Exit MENU mode...
Pause LiveView...
Enter PLAY mode...
Enter MENU mode...
Exit MENU mode...
Pause LiveView...
Enter MENU mode...
Canon GUI tests completed.

Testing ML menu API...
Menu tests completed.

Testing picture taking functions...
Please switch to M mode.
Snap simulation test...
Single picture...
B:/DCIM/100CANON/IMG_4849.CR2: 24961243
B:/DCIM/100CANON/IMG_4849.JPG not found.
Two burst pictures...
Ideally, the camera should be in some continuous shooting mode (not checked).
B:/DCIM/100CANON/ABC_4850.CR2: 24978453
B:/DCIM/100CANON/ABC_4850.JPG not found.
B:/DCIM/100CANON/ABC_4851.CR2: 25012699
B:/DCIM/100CANON/ABC_4851.JPG not found.
Bracketed pictures...
B:/DCIM/100CANON/IMG_4852.CR2: 32302711
B:/DCIM/100CANON/IMG_4852.JPG not found.
B:/DCIM/100CANON/IMG_4853.CR2: 24982746
B:/DCIM/100CANON/IMG_4853.JPG not found.
B:/DCIM/100CANON/IMG_4854.CR2: 14768124
B:/DCIM/100CANON/IMG_4854.JPG not found.
Bulb picture...
Elapsed time: 13240
B:/DCIM/100CANON/IMG_4855.CR2: 14472832
B:/DCIM/100CANON/IMG_4855.JPG not found.
Picture taking tests completed.

Testing multitasking...
Only one task allowed to interrupt...
Main task yielding.
Task C started.
Task C finished.
Main task back.
Main task yielding.
Task C started.
Task C finished.
Main task back.
Main task yielding.
Task C started.
Task C finished.
Main task back.
Main task yielding.
Task C started.
Task C finished.
Main task back.
Main task yielding.
Task C started.
Task C finished.
Main task back.
Main task yielding.
Task C started.
Task C finished.
Main task back.
Main task yielding.
Task C started.
Task C finished.
Main task back.
Main task yielding.
Task C started.
Task C finished.
Main task back.
Main task yielding.
Task C started.
Task C finished.
Main task back.
Main task yielding.
Task C started.
Task C finished.
Main task back.
Multitasking tests completed.

Testing half-shutter...
Half-shutter test OK.

Testing module 'lv'...
LiveView is running; stopping...
Starting LiveView...
Overlays: Canon
Overlays: Canon
Overlays: Canon
Overlays: ML
Overlays: ML
Overlays: disabled
Overlays: Canon
Overlays: Canon
Overlays: Canon
Overlays: Canon
Overlays: disabled
Overlays: ML
Overlays: disabled
Overlays: Canon
Overlays: Canon
Setting zoom to x1...
Setting zoom to x5...
Setting zoom to x10...
Setting zoom to x5...
Setting zoom to x1...
Setting zoom to x10...
Setting zoom to x1...
Pausing LiveView...
Resuming LiveView...
Stopping LiveView...
LiveView tests completed.


Testing lens focus functionality...
Autofocus outside LiveView...
Focus distance: 655350
Autofocus in LiveView...
Please trigger autofocus (half-shutter / AF-ON / * ).
19...18...17...16...Autofocus triggered.
Autofocus completed.
Focus distance: 655350
Focusing backward...
Focus distance: 655350
Focus motor position: 3094
Focusing forward with step size 3, wait=true...
.........................
Focus distance: 340
Focus motor position: 278
Focusing backward with step size 3, wait=true...
.........................
Focus distance: 655350
Focus motor position: 3094
Focus range: 25 steps forward, 25 steps backward.
Motor steps: 2816 forward, 2816 backward, 0 lost.
Focusing forward with step size 3, wait=false...
..........................................................
Focus distance: 340
Focus motor position: 278
Focusing backward with step size 3, wait=false...
.........................................................
Focus distance: 655350
Focus motor position: 3094
Focus range: 58 steps forward, 57 steps backward.
Motor steps: 2816 forward, 2816 backward, 0 lost.
Focusing forward with step size 2, wait=true...
...
Focus distance: 370
Focus motor position: 534
Focusing backward with step size 2, wait=true...
...
Focus distance: 655350
Focus motor position: 3094
Focus range: 164 steps forward, 164 steps backward.
Motor steps: 2560 forward, 2560 backward, 0 lost.
Focusing forward with step size 2, wait=false...
...
Focus distance: 340
Focus motor position: 278
Focusing backward with step size 2, wait=false...
...
Focus distance: 655350
Focus motor position: 3094
Focus range: 185 steps forward, 188 steps backward.
Motor steps: 2816 forward, 2816 backward, 0 lost.
Focusing forward with step size 1, wait=true...
...
Focus distance: 340
Focus motor position: 278
Focusing backward with step size 1, wait=true...
...
Focus distance: 655350
Focus motor position: 3094
Focus range: 1061 steps forward, 1062 steps backward.
Motor steps: 2816 forward, 2816 backward, 0 lost.
Focusing forward with step size 1, wait=false...
...
Focus distance: 340
Focus motor position: 278
Focusing backward with step size 1, wait=false...
...
Focus distance: 655350
Focus motor position: 3094
Focus range: 1061 steps forward, 1059 steps backward.
Motor steps: 2816 forward, 2816 backward, 0 lost.

Focus test completed.

Testing exposure settings...
Camera    : Canon EOS 70D (70D) 1.1.2
Lens      : EF50mm f/1.8 STM
Shoot mode: 3
Shutter   : ,5 (raw 75, 0.192776s, 193ms, apex 2.375)
Aperture  : 4.9 (raw 45, f/4.9, apex 4.625)
Av range  : 1.8..22 (raw 22..80, f/1.8..f/22.6, apex 1.75..9.)
ISO       : €1600 (raw 104, 1600, apex 9.)
EC        : 0.0 (raw 0, 0 EV)
Flash EC  : 0.0 (raw 0, 0 EV)
Setting shutter to random values...
Setting ISO to random values...
Setting aperture to random values...
Please switch to Av mode.
Setting EC to random values...
Setting Flash EC to random values...
Exposure tests completed.


Testing movie recording...
Please switch to Movie mode.
Movie recording tests completed.

Done! 


edit:
in memory benchmark it stops on memcpy cacheable (verifying) and red led shines
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on February 24, 2018, 06:13:29 AM
Quote from: andy kh on February 19, 2018, 10:32:51 AM
#shootmealready   im aware of the vaf but i don think i wil spend 295$ buying a filter. i bought a 70D sometime back since i love its auto focus and sold out my 650D since pink dots of 650D was annoying so much. shooting in crop mode in a 70D make its auto focus unusable. my question is do you also get moire like me when you shoot raw? or is it only me. i have seen some good raw video shoot with a 70D on youtube

I bought a  VAF shortly after buying my 70D, as I shoot in the city and find things like tiles, bricks, wires, and street car tracks everywhere and annoying to shoot around.  As for 3X mode, it has centre point AF, but mostly I would be using MF and flat pic profile for H264 (which on 70D is good for high ISO shooting), and 10bit raw for general clips (you can also shoot 3X mode raw for up to ISO800). I get moire without filter on, and not 3X.  RAW is very good but takes longer to process, so you have to consider turn around time.

AF is good for motion tracking, and pull focus.  So MF should be used most often, I find with the 70D you can over use touch focus which can lead to wandering focal plane for video. The more you want to control focus the less AF.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: hacki on March 04, 2018, 10:22:16 PM
Hi,

I've got a problem with a lua script. Tried on both nightly (magiclantern-Nightly.2018Feb17.70D112) and experimental (lua_fix.2018Feb24.70D112) builds

camera.shoot() behaves weird in live view mode. If i use it in a while loop or call it several times in a row it soft-locks the camera.

Screen stays black and nothing further happens, sometimes it continues in the script after 20, 30 seconds.

Is this a problem with live view in general (on all cameras), or some 70D specific quirk?
I couldnt find anything on it.



Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on March 05, 2018, 02:37:14 PM

-- shoot test
for i=1,50 do
  camera.shoot()
end


Runs fine on 60D. It slows down after a few pictures (buffer getting full), but does not lock up.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: hacki on March 05, 2018, 06:47:38 PM
Okay, since seeing for yourself is better than a thousand word essay, i made two short videos about the behaviour:

This script:


--[[ 
TEST
--]]

   
testmenu = menu.new
{
parent = "Shoot",
name = "Test",
help = "Test",
submenu =
{
{
name = "Run",
help = "Run this script.",
icon_type = ICON_TYPE.ACTION,
update = "",
},
}
}

testmenu.submenu["Run"].select = function()
-- shoot test
for i=1,50 do
  camera.shoot()
end
end


Locks the camera up. Video:

https://youtu.be/QgQGYxUWV20


While this script:


--[[ 
TEST SINGLE SHOT
--]]

   
testmenu = menu.new
{
parent = "Shoot",
name = "Test",
help = "Test",
submenu =
{
{
name = "Run",
help = "Run this script.",
icon_type = ICON_TYPE.ACTION,
update = "",
},
}
}

testmenu.submenu["Run"].select = function()
  camera.shoot()
end


Works fine.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU0iiB8xTGE


Now, i even tried adding a sleep like this:


for i=1,50 do
  camera.shoot()
          msleep(5000)
end


It locks up.

Even a simple


testmenu.submenu["Run"].select = function()
  camera.shoot()
  camera.shoot()
  camera.shoot()
end


Locks up.


It looks like camera.shoot() in live view locks something that only gets cleared when the LUA script ends?





Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: xcalibr on March 07, 2018, 10:07:07 PM
Is the Audio Monitoring working? I installed ML perfectly fine, but don't see the Option to turn this feature on. I've run ML on my 60D for years so I'm fairly familiar, but I can't find this feature to activate on the 70D version. Any help and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I'm running 1.1.2 Firmware also & installed the latest Build magiclantern-Nightly.2018Feb17.70D112. Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on March 07, 2018, 11:23:58 PM
Quote from: hacki on March 05, 2018, 06:47:38 PM
It looks like camera.shoot() in live view locks something that only gets cleared when the LUA script ends?

The "select" function is something executed when clicking the menu item, in the same task that handles other GUI events, so it should return quickly. I'm actually surprised it works that way, even for a simple picture.

You probably want to start a new task and run the sequence from there (see also this discussion (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16614.msg161978#msg161978)). Or, to keep the event-driven programming style, use the shoot_task event (called periodically) and take the picture from there.

TODO: add a test to api_test.lua, as none of my scripts use it (so it might not even work). A standalone minimal example might be useful as well.

I prefer simple scripts that run on demand, just because I know how poorly (https://builds.magiclantern.fm/lua_api/examples/unload.lua.html) the multitasking (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14828.msg179227;topicseen#msg179227) is implemented. I do miss some simple parameter support in simple scripts, as with CHDK (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK_Script_Header) (parameters defined as comments in the script header), but I'm not a heavy user of the scripting engine.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dfort on March 08, 2018, 11:11:16 PM
Hey 70D users.

There's a test that needs some 70D input here:

https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5601.msg196632#msg196632

I made a special build from allocate-raw-lv-buffer branch that should work on the 70D for this test. You can find it on my downloads page (https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/downloads/). Follow the instruction on the post (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5601.msg196632#msg196632) and the pull request (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/e799e89f67877825c6a4dc2868f87bed1196432b) and also check out what other users have posted.

We already have some values for this camera but it would be great to verify it with this new method.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: hacki on March 08, 2018, 11:25:12 PM
Well... I think i'm a bit confused about the LUA implementation of magic lantern (i'm used to CHDK).

I read somewhere that ML executes all scripts it can find once on boot and therefore you shouldn't put any code that does something in a script "just like that", without calling it from someplace else.

But apparently thats not entirely true? A plain and simple


for i=1,50 do
   camera.shoot()
end


without any fluff works precisely like i'd expect it to.

So i'll stick with that.

I read the LUA API page on the docs. Its not clear to me what makes a script "simple" and what makes a script "complex"?

edit: Found it: http://davidmilligan.github.io/ml-lua/

Thats on the very top of some google search results for ml lua stuff.

If thats outdated, maybe it should be removed from github..
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on March 09, 2018, 05:54:15 AM

(https://thumb.ibb.co/em8Fk7/Whats_App_Image_2018_03_09_at_10_21_47.jpg) (https://ibb.co/em8Fk7)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on March 09, 2018, 06:48:36 AM
Quote from: hacki on March 08, 2018, 11:25:12 PM
I read somewhere that ML executes all scripts it can find once on boot and therefore you shouldn't put any code that does something in a script "just like that", without calling it from someplace else.

But apparently thats not entirely true?
That was true for the early Lua implementation (still in main builds for most cameras except 70D and a few others). See also the call for testers (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14828.msg194706#msg194706) - there are some 70D issues that are hard to diagnose without a camera in one's hands, so help is welcome - not just by running the unmodified scripts, but also by troubleshooting them).

Quote
I read the LUA API page on the docs. Its not clear to me what makes a script "simple" and what makes a script "complex"?

Main page -> Docs -> Lua API -> first page, first paragraph
Download page (https://builds.magiclantern.fm/) -> Lua API (https://builds.magiclantern.fm/lua_api/index.html) -> first page, first paragraph

Quote
(i'm used to CHDK)

I'm not; maybe you can provide some more details on that.




Quote from: dfort on March 08, 2018, 11:11:16 PM
Hey 70D users.

There's a test that needs some 70D input [...]

Would appreciate if other 70D owners would run the test linked by dfort, and also try the lossless compression experiments (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=18443.msg198160#msg198160) and report the results in a way that's helpful for us (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=18443.msg198202#msg198202) (sorry andy kh).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dfort on March 13, 2018, 05:33:50 PM
70D users should be aware that your camera is almost working on the crop_rec_4k branch which means reduced bit depth and lossless compression which allows for greater resolution when recording raw video.

There are several pieces to the crop_rec_4k puzzle. One that we haven't even started on is the crop_rec module. I recently got it working on the EOSM2 so this is still fresh in my mind. This post explains what we need to find:

https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15895.msg197884#msg197884

You will need the adtg_gui module. The current one on the downloads page doesn't support the 70D so I made a special build of the iso-research branch. You can find it on my downloads page (https://builds.magiclantern.fm/modules.html).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 14, 2018, 12:00:19 AM
Like This -->


(https://thumb.ibb.co/kK8wXx/Memory_Patch_adtg.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kK8wXx)

(https://thumb.ibb.co/ferGXx/Memory_Patch_cmos.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ferGXx)


?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dfort on March 14, 2018, 12:49:16 AM
Excellent! Let's give this a try:

    else if (is_camera("70D", "1.1.2"))
    {
        CMOS_WRITE = 0x26B54;
        MEM_CMOS_WRITE = 0xE92D41F0;
       
        ADTG_WRITE = 0x2684C;
        MEM_ADTG_WRITE = 0xE92D47F0;


Put up a test build on my downloads page (https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/downloads/). The way to test this is to first turn on only the crop_rec module. Put your camera in 1280x720/50 or 60 (depending if you're set up for PAL or NTSC) and try recording some H.264 video. The LiveView will probably look stretched vertically.

We know that mlv_lite isn't working yet because we need to figure out the lossless recording but maybe mlv_rec will work? You should be able to record video using 3x3 sampling at 60fps. Well, the card will limit how large of an image you can continuously record at that speed but it does give you another option to play with.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 14, 2018, 01:40:16 AM
No luck here either... I was able to record a h.264 file but from the looks of it its not what we are trying to achieve ;).
https://we.tl/lwKu0odHxN
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 14, 2018, 01:41:51 AM
Is there a chance I somwhow messed up the atdg_gui test in the first place or do the values seem ok?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dfort on March 14, 2018, 06:11:55 AM
What the?

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4779/38990153020_d9b1562ff7.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22pqJ6A)

It looks like you did everything right--maybe I messed up? You didn't happen to turn on any other module like say dual_iso, did you?

Are you able to record regular mv720 H.264 video with this test build?

[EDIT] What I meant to say was if you turn off the crop_rec module can you record clean 720p H.264 video?

The vertical stretching in your image looks about right. For H.264 the crop_rec module acts as sort of an anamorphic squeeze that needs to be stretched out in post.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 14, 2018, 08:11:44 PM
Hey! I was able to record "regular" h.264 and the live view changed accordingly when I switched to the crop_rec mode, it looked exactly like the file I uploaded.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on March 14, 2018, 08:45:12 PM
The CMOS registers are likely different; one can fiddle with the values in adtg_gui and document what they do, and what their values are in different video modes. Some will change with ISO - try all full-stop values and write down which registers change. Others will change with column binning factor - try in 1:1 crop modes and compare to 1080p/720p. Simply writing the values to a log file (Advanced menu) in each video mode would be very helpful.

A list of the video modes can be found here:

Quote from: nikfreak on April 29, 2015, 04:52:07 PM
70D.111A and 70D.111B can contribute following this guide:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12375.0

and post in that thread (not in this thread) the vram dumps for 70D.111A and 70D.111B as instructed per above link.

(yes, that task from 2015 is still valid; nobody did it, to my knowledge)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 18, 2018, 07:34:05 PM
I did the test linked in the post (posted the files in the image dumping thread you linked). There's mostly none RAW video modes though. For further testing, should I repeat the ATG_GUI test (find register 800c and change it to 2) and then just make screenshots of different modes (and perhaps also ISOs as you suggested?)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on March 18, 2018, 07:49:23 PM
With adtg_gui, the interesting parts are:
- log default values in each video mode (without changing anything): Advanced -> Log Registers Now.
- change ADTG2[800c] in 720p50 (caveat: might lock up; try lowering the frame rate if it does)
- document CMOS registers for all ISOs (choose one video mode, such as 1080p24; optional 720p50 and some 1:1 crop)
- optionally try other ADTG registers (there are a lot of them; maybe start with something that changes when switching video modes, or the ones already documented for other models)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 18, 2018, 08:13:34 PM
Updated the Vram post with the 3xZoom modes.

Just to get this right the first time: 1:1 crop would be anything with the crop_rec activated right? or the 3xZoom from the menu as well?
Then I save a Log-registers file for every ISO in every one of those 3 modes, correct?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on March 18, 2018, 08:50:46 PM
1:1 crop modes are the x5 zoom (used for magnification), the 3x zoom (600D, 70D) the 640x480 crop (550D) and crop_rec 1:1 presets (5D3 only for now). So far, they appear to be quite similar regarding ISO, therefore covering just one of them should be quite good. Covering all others is unlikely to give different results.

Same for 1080p 24/25/30 (don't expect any differences regarding ISO). Same for 720p 50/60.

However, there may be differences between 1080p 24/25/30 on the ADTG registers.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 18, 2018, 09:50:24 PM
As always, I hope I did this the right way!
I saved the log file just like in the normal movie modes for every ISO in the 3 modes you suggested. However, all in h.264, a raw module was never loaded. I hope this was right.
https://we.tl/2lQ7AjIEDH
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on March 18, 2018, 10:05:47 PM
Looks good at first sight, thanks.

CMOS[0]:
- ISO 100 and derived: 0x03 = 0b00000011
- ISO 200 and derived: 0x27 = 0b00100111
- ISO 400 and derived: 0x4B = 0b01001011
- ISO 800 and derived: 0x6F = 0b01101111
- ISO 1600 and derived: 0x93 = 0b10010011
- ISO 3200 and derived: 0xDB = 0b11011011

What happens if you set CMOS[0] to 0x83 = 0b10000011? (DNG silent pictures, please)

If that works, one may try using FRAME_CMOS_ISO_START = 0x404e749a in dual_iso.c; the other values from nikfreak are correct. His comments also mention CMOS[3], but that one is 0xC00 at all ISOs.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 18, 2018, 10:49:32 PM
live view behaves very weirdly when I do this. It gets all pink and in video mode flickery. Also, in this build (from the iso_research branch that dfort posted earlier in this thread) lossless dng is not available. thats why there's only normal silent DNGs. 

All I did was set CMOS
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on March 18, 2018, 10:54:26 PM
The 5x and FRSP images look like valid Dual ISO files; you may try converting them.

The 1080p sample is very interesting: one line brighter (at higher ISO) and one line darker (at lower ISO). That's the first camera doing this! (it has no practical use, it's covered in dual_iso.pdf, but it's interesting for understanding how things work)

Try playing with the higher bits, e.g. 0x183, 0x283, 0x483, 0x883 (or, if you have the patience, try all the 16 possible values, from 083 to F83).

The 720p one is pure black; no idea how to fix, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 18, 2018, 11:10:33 PM
Is there any indication when or if I hit the nail on the head? Should the DNGs with the right combination open just like normal in Lightroom, or another processing app? Its just 64 Dngs, should be managable :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on March 18, 2018, 11:15:14 PM
Yes, the pattern should be 2 lines bright and 2 lines dark (visible with Magic Zoom) and the image should look clean after conversion with cr2hdr (just like 5x and FRSP samples).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 19, 2018, 12:26:13 AM
91 and 92 seem to be the only other values where live view isnt broken, if that is any indicator. Im uploading all the dngs so you can have a look. Also, I ONLY changed the cmos 0 value, and left the 800c alone, thats what I was supposed to be doing and not changing them both, correct?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dfort on March 19, 2018, 12:27:43 AM
Nice testing @David_Hugh - do you have a development platform set up yet? It is easy to do and would really help.

Processed through cr2hdr:

FRSP
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/817/40180124484_82afab8f92.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24dzD9Y)

5x zoom
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/817/40846014532_d4c1a512c8.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25eqv4S)

Wonder if that weirdness that's happening with the crop_rec module (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg198450#msg198450) is related to the issues you're seeing with the 3x3 sampling modes, mv1080 and mv720. Kind of trippy depending on what app you use to open it, the is the Apple quick viewer.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4773/27017753158_aa679278e2.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Hat3Jj)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on March 19, 2018, 12:31:41 AM
Quote from: David_Hugh on March 19, 2018, 12:26:13 AM
I ONLY changed the cmos 0 value, and left the 800c alone, thats what I was supposed to be doing and not changing them both, correct?

Correct, the 800c and the CMOS[0] are two different (unrelated) experiments. First is for 3x3 binning in 720p, second is for dual ISO.

The suggestion about higher bits comes from a quirk in 700D, EOSM and others, where these may result in 4 bright lines followed by 4 dark lines and so on. That weirdness mentioned by dfort looks fairly similar to that.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 19, 2018, 12:49:31 AM
Right, here are the other values then. It's always 720/1080/5x/FRSP

https://we.tl/fU1yNdv7Bz

dfort, I'm sure you are right about the testing environment, however, I am so far from working with code I dont even know how to use the command line (heck, I dont even know if that is easy or harder than setting up a testing environment  :-[ :P . )
Thats why for now I thought I'm more of a help taking relatively simple orders and trying to execute them correctly haha. But I will look into it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dfort on March 19, 2018, 01:39:15 AM
Well if you can copy and paste you can set up a development environment--don't fear the command line!

Ok--lots of files. A cr2hdr trick I learned a while back is that since it saves files with an uppercase ".DNG" extension, if you rename everything in lowercase, only the files cr2hdr could processes will be in uppercase.

13130000.dng
13130001.dng
13130002.dng
13130003.dng
13130004.dng
13130005.dng
13130006.DNG
13130007.DNG
13130008.dng
13130009.dng
13130010.DNG
13130011.DNG
13130012.dng
13130013.dng
13130014.DNG
13130015.DNG
13130016.dng
13130017.dng
13130018.dng
13130019.dng
13130020.dng
13130021.dng
13130022.DNG
13130023.DNG
13130024.dng
13130025.dng
13130026.DNG
13130027.DNG
13130028.dng
13130029.dng
13130030.dng
13130031.DNG
13130032.DNG
13130033.dng
13130034.dng
13130035.dng
13130036.dng
13130037.dng
13130038.dng
13130039.DNG
13130040.DNG
13130041.dng
13130042.dng
13130043.DNG
13130044.DNG
13130045.dng
13130046.dng
13130047.DNG
13130048.DNG
13130049.dng
13130050.dng
13130051.dng
13130052.dng
13130053.dng
13130054.dng
13130055.dng
13130056.dng
13130057.dng
13130058.dng
13130059.dng
13130060.dng
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on March 19, 2018, 09:42:45 AM
Something I don't get: 083 worked before, but the first x5 picture in the set (assumed to be with 083) is black. Actually, all the 8.6MB pictures in groups #0, #4, #8 and #12 are black. Furthermore, pictures in the group #13 and #14 are not dual iso, and some of the pictures from the set have different ISO ratios.

#0 (13130002) => black
#1 (13130006) => 3.0EV, noise levels 5.99 14.93 14.86 5.82
#2 (13130010) => 3.0EV, noise levels 6.08 14.70 15.23 5.78
#3 (13130014) => 3.0EV, noise levels 6.21 14.74 15.15 5.83
#4 (13130018) => black
#5 (13130022) => 2.0EV, noise levels 7.10 14.95 15.26 6.94 => lower ISO increased from previous set
#6 (13130026) => 2.0EV, noise levels 7.07 14.96 14.95 6.96
#7 (13130031) => 2.0EV, noise levels 7.04 14.88 14.95 6.94
#8 (13130035) => black
#9 (13130039) => 0.99EV, noise levels 9.53 14.45 15.12 9.49 => lower ISO increased even more
#10 (13130043) => 1.0EV, noise levels 9.70 14.51 14.97 9.55
#11 (13130047) => 1.0EV, noise levels 9.67 14.76 15.31 9.49
#12 (13130051) => black
#13 (13130055) => 0.0EV, noise levels 9.82 14.77 15.20 9.57 (octave; image looks normal, cr2hdr refuses it)
#14 (13130059) => 0.0EV, noise levels 14.95 14.6 15.22 15.10 (octave; image looks like before, maybe with more hot pixels)
#15 (missing) => 0.0EV (predicted)

Previous sample:
13130002 => predicted 100/1600, got 4EV OK, noise levels 5.62 14.89 15.23 5.43

Image must be black if the two least significant bits are 0, unaffected otherwise.

Were the values in this sequence 0x083, 0x183 ... 0xE83, and was 0xF83 the missing one? If so, I'm unable to explain the results.
Were they 0x080, 0x081 ... 0x08E, and was 0x08F the missing one? If so, I can only explain the black frames and some of the ISO variations.

0x80      = 0b10000000 (predicted: black OK)
0x81/2/3  = 0b10000001/10/11 (predicted: 100/1600; got 3EV, expected 4)
0x84      = 0b10000100 (predicted: black OK)
0x85/6/7  = 0b10000101/10/11 (predicted: 200/1600; got 2EV, expected 3)
0x88      = 0b10001000 (predicted: black OK)
0x89/A/B  = 0b10001001/10/11 (predicted: 400/1600; got 1EV, expected 2)
0x8C      = 0b10001100 (predicted: black OK)
0x8D/E/F? = 0b10001101/10/11 (predicted: 400/1600; got 0EV, expected 1)


Assuming 0x60-0x6F to match the last two images, the predictions would be: 100/800 (3EV), 200/800 (2EV), 400/800 (1EV) and 800/800 (0EV). That seems to match, but why would you have chosen these values?

=> detective work failed; no idea what values you have set for this sequence. The sequence I've expected is 0x083, 0x183 ... 0xF83.

The FRSP images follow the same pattern (no surprises here).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 19, 2018, 10:12:01 AM
Ok, I see, too little input from my side. What I did was change the CMOS 0 value from 83 (which I didnt repeat because it was the first set of 4 I uploaded, hence the confusion probably...) to every other step in between 83 and 93.

However, the next value I can achieve by just right clicking the arrow buttons is 84. So the values were as follows:

x84
x85
x86
x87
x88
x89
x8a
x8b
x8c
x8d
x8e
x8f
x90
x91
x92


15 values times 4 DNGs equals the 60 Dngs i submitted. Feel free to now tell me I totally misunderstood the task  :o haha
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 19, 2018, 04:44:38 PM
Ark! Found out myself. Read your previous post carefully and I somehow misread what I should be testing. I thought it was between 83 and 93 but you want me to test all combinations that end with 83, right? I quickly clicked through them and live view is broken in all of them. Is that a bad sign or something we are not concerned with yet? I will redo the test if broken liveview is a non-issue atm!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on March 19, 2018, 04:48:31 PM
At least 083 should be fine (since you have already posted valid Dual ISO samples from it).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 19, 2018, 04:52:08 PM
As reported, liveview also flickers weirdly pink in x83 setting (720&1080). (does that not constitute "broken"?) Turns to black&white in 5xzoom and stays pink (no flicker) in photo mode.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on March 19, 2018, 04:53:43 PM
Right, as long as the image moves as you move the camera, it's not broken (flicker is not a problem right now - that's just a resized version of an image with dark and bright lines).

You can see it better with Magic Zoom. The pattern might be stationary or "crawling" - on 5D3, this changes with FPS settings. I don't expect CMOS[0] to change this behavior, but if it does, please write it down.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 19, 2018, 04:55:18 PM
ok, then it seems none of the settings with 83 break live view and I redo the test!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 19, 2018, 10:30:02 PM
Here we go again. Tested the registers x83-x983 that ended on 83 . This is all I had time for today, the remaining ones will come tomorrow. Interesting to note: I installed cr2hdr for lightroom plugin, in all of the registers but the last one (so x983) only the 5xZoom and the FRSP were valid Dual Iso pics (Will try to confirm this tomorrow). In x983, only the 720 does NOT reigster as dual iso. However, they seem a lot more corrupted than lower registers. Full uploaded in case I'm missing something:

https://we.tl/kvdiIomvQJ



Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on March 19, 2018, 10:53:57 PM
It gets close, but the image after conversion is not good (at least here).

Can you also log the register values in photo mode, outside LiveView, at each ISO?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 20, 2018, 11:09:03 AM
Here are the register logs in Photo mode, outside live view. Just a minor note in case this is important. Right after startup, there are no registers visible. Since it says "log visible registers" in the menu, I switched to video mode, then back to photo mode before I did the first log, in order to make them visible. I'm guessing thats not relevant, wanted to mention it anyway!

https://we.tl/5KOkgmenc2
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on March 20, 2018, 11:12:57 AM
It is relevant - it just adds noise to the dataset. Actually, the entire log contains only registers from LiveView.

No registers visible after enabling ADTG Registers, followed by taking a picture?

edit: yeah, forgot to mention - the registers are only updated when some Canon code changes them. In LiveView, that happens when entering LV, when switching video modes, and - for some registers - when changing settings such as ISO or shutter speed. In photo mode, the registers are only touched by Canon code when taking a picture.

So, you have to:
0) enable ADTG Registers
1) set ISO from Canon menu
2) take a picture
3) log register values (for that ISO)
4) repeat from step 1 for the next ISO
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 20, 2018, 11:43:54 AM
Ok! So much to learn  :)!

https://we.tl/ls4TML6XNN

Better?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on March 20, 2018, 11:49:12 AM
Better, but for some reason, none of the registers changed with ISO. Did you take a picture before each log? The registers are *only* updated when Canon code changes them (when you actually take the picture, not when you change the setting from menu).

The module is not smart enough to detect whether you took a new picture or not.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 20, 2018, 11:59:56 AM
Ok! so a picture before every log. got it^^.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 20, 2018, 12:23:27 PM
In the meantime: Here's the completed test from yesterday. BUT. Something weird happened. I took the remaining test at ISO 400 instead of 800 because I wanted to keep the exposure similar, although I also included the x83 setting as a reference anyway.

This changed the register from x6f ----> to x4b ----> !

I also wanted to include x983 because of yesterday's observations. Here's where the weird bit starts. I wasnt able to take a FRSP at x983.

RAW error.

I wasnt able to save FRSPs up until setting xe83, which let me save one again, xf83 too.

So I thought, well, then repeat the FRSPs at ISO 800. Said and done, Register was at x6f ----> again. But I STILL couldnt save a FRSP. I swear to god I saved one with these settings yesterday and I dindt change anything in the process?????

https://we.tl/MJvNGN744B
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 20, 2018, 12:25:47 PM
Oh yeah, the DNG sequence is:

x83
x983
xa83
..... and so on
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 20, 2018, 12:40:01 PM
Aaaand here's the log again... gg.

https://we.tl/8JktLBi1AD
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 20, 2018, 06:42:25 PM
In the higher values The 1080 mode seems to at least be registered as a Dual Iso, but they are just as corrupted looking as the one I posted yesterday. Are there other values I should/could try?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: karakorum on March 31, 2018, 12:28:11 PM
Hallo, In my new PC i have downloaded tools to convert MLV 2 DNG  , but they dont install. As i double click them, they just pop out , appear for 1/2 second and leave. Need help. Any suggestions Please.... !!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 01, 2018, 03:06:19 AM
Wanted to know what folks on Windows 10 are having success with dual ISO for 70D.
I tried one recently and it left me with pink hues and lots of lines across.  I tried to proces the Cr2 file.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on April 15, 2018, 11:33:30 PM
Hey! I just wanted to try and revive the interest into getting the 70D closer to the crop_rec4k branch.
First of all I wanted to konw if something useful became of the ISO logs I posted a while ago.
Secondly, with regard to the dual_iso experiment I noticed something. In your analysis you said ISO for 3200 and derived is 0xDB, but I just looked at the values and 3200 is 0xb7 for me. Its probably nothing but I thought Id mention it anyway.
Also, are there more line skipping experiments that I can do to try and get the crop_rec modules working?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on April 16, 2018, 03:55:16 PM
IIRC we've got valid Dual ISO images in x5 zoom mode without any trickery, so that one is worth including in the builds.

From the last dataset, none of the 1080p samples were impressive; they were just interesting because they alternate one bright and one dark line, except for 13130038.DNG, which doesn't look very good after conversion. 13130039.DNG and 13130040.DNG are alternating 4 bright and 4 dark lines (a quirk also present on 650D, 700D and 100D in default configuration).

BTW, if anyone wants any of the above files, I can re-host them.

There is an experiment that might increase LiveView resolution (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=19300.msg197098#msg197098), but it's considerably more difficult, as it's no longer a fixed recipe; besides, the pre-built adtg_gui from dfort requires two more stubs (just uncomment and recompile).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dfort on April 16, 2018, 05:04:55 PM
Quote from: a1ex on April 16, 2018, 03:55:16 PM
...the pre-built adtg_gui from dfort requires two more stubs (just uncomment and recompile).

Quote from: a1ex on February 10, 2018, 05:36:34 PM
...define ENGIO_WRITE_FUNC and ENG_DRV_OUT_FUNC in adtg_gui.c...

This is what I've got in adtg_gui for the 70D:

    else if (is_camera("70D", "1.1.2"))
    {
        ADTG_WRITE_FUNC = 0x2684c; //"[REG] @@@@@@@@@@@@ Start ADTG[CS:%lx]"
        CMOS_WRITE_FUNC = 0x26B54; //"[REG] ############ Start CMOS"
        ENGIO_WRITE_FUNC = 0xFF2BC6C4;  // from stubs
        ENG_DRV_OUT_FUNC = 0xFF2BC3AC;
    }
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on April 16, 2018, 05:28:19 PM
Oops, compiler optimization tricked me (I've looked at it with the disassembler, as the diff appeared too big). Okay, then it's fine.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on April 16, 2018, 06:20:35 PM
ok! so with a little care and lots of reading the test you linked should be doable i suppose! only out of curiiosity - am i the first one to try this? nikfreak owns a 70d right? just asking bc I may run into very specific problems (or findings?) others may have already encountered. If I ever get this far. I'll start reading up!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dfort on April 16, 2018, 08:09:50 PM
Glad you're picking it up. Seems like we were so close a few weeks ago (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg198614#msg198614).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: karakorum on April 17, 2018, 04:39:01 AM
I can't run the apps i have installed......mlrawviewver , mlvfs, dng converter....nothing is running . I open the program and windows shows error .....can anyone tell me why ? pls help....
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Badboy_428 on April 25, 2018, 01:18:09 AM
Just wondering how stable the current build is. I only have the one camera and I don't want to lock it up.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: zootrope on May 10, 2018, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: dfort on March 13, 2018, 05:33:50 PM
70D users should be aware that your camera is almost working on the crop_rec_4k branch which means reduced bit depth and lossless compression which allows for greater resolution when recording raw video.

There are several pieces to the crop_rec_4k puzzle. One that we haven't even started on is the crop_rec module. I recently got it working on the EOSM2 so this is still fresh in my mind. This post explains what we need to find:

https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15895.msg197884#msg197884

You will need the adtg_gui module. The current one on the downloads page doesn't support the 70D so I made a special build of the iso-research branch. You can find it on my downloads page (https://builds.magiclantern.fm/modules.html).

  • Activate the adtg_gui module (leave all other modules off)
  • Set the Canon movie menu to 1280x720/60
  • Go int the Debug menu and in the ADTG Registers look for ADTG2[800c] - if you don't see it record a short H.264 clip and look again.
  • Override the ADTG2[800c] register from 0x4 to 0x2 -- the left/right buttons on most cameras will do this, search the forum if you need more information on how to work with the adtg_gui module.
  • In the Debug menu check the memory patches and do a screen shot of the two memory patches, adtg_log and cmos_log.
I've tried to do your test, but it failed=>adtg_gui module failed to load=>Err
i've tried to record a short H.264 clip but it didn't help...
(with your ML version : crop_rec_module_test.2018Mar13.70D112)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: zootrope on May 10, 2018, 05:43:19 PM
Ok i've made a mistake ! with the right version is better (iso-research.2018Mar13.70D112) !!!
But i've to mentionned that at the beginning ADTG2[800c] didn't appear, so i've recorded a short H.264 clip as dfort said... but still ADTG2[800c] didn't appear, because the sound recording was not active, when i enabled it and recorded a new H.264 clip everything was fine !
I hope I did the test well :

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Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dfort on May 10, 2018, 06:38:54 PM
@zootrope - Looks like you did everything right and it confirms what we found out back in March. The test build is still up on my downloads page (https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/downloads/), it is named crop_rec_module_test.2018Mar13.70D112.zip.

Here is the code snippet that should work. Note how it matches up with your screenshots:

modules/crop_rec/crop_rec.c
    else if (is_camera("70D", "1.1.2"))
    {
        CMOS_WRITE = 0x26B54;
        MEM_CMOS_WRITE = 0xE92D41F0;
       
        ADTG_WRITE = 0x2684C;
        MEM_ADTG_WRITE = 0xE92D47F0;
       
        is_basic = 1;
        crop_presets                = crop_presets_basic;
        crop_rec_menu[0].choices    = crop_choices_basic;
        crop_rec_menu[0].max        = COUNT(crop_choices_basic) - 1;
        crop_rec_menu[0].help       = crop_choices_help_basic;
        crop_rec_menu[0].help2      = crop_choices_help2_basic;
    }


Don't know if it passed muster because as far as I know we never got the lossless compression working on the 70D, though everything else seems to be working fine.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dfort on May 12, 2018, 04:31:57 PM
Could someone please check to see if the lua_fix (available on the experiments download page (https://builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html)) API test works with various lenses on the 70D? I'm trying to resolve an issue with some lenses not being able to pass the focus test (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=22053.msg201056#msg201056).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on May 23, 2018, 03:55:11 PM
Quote from: ShootMeAlready on April 01, 2018, 03:06:19 AM
from: andy kh on Today at 05:41:36 AM
dfort's crop-rec doesnt work yet

Working fine for me on 70D so far, need to get the 95 sandisk SD to keep pushing the limits - I've only got the 90 MicroSD with adapter currently. Still able to get some good speeds out of it though! And I can change resolution higher than 1728, so definitely working!


this guy says dfort's crop_rec build 14Mar18 works fine on his 70D
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: bakersdozen on May 24, 2018, 01:36:24 AM
Quote from: andy kh on May 23, 2018, 03:55:11 PM
this guy says dfort's crop_rec build 14Mar18 works fine on his 70D

My apologies, I haven't been keeping up as far in this thread. I have only tested with 5x crop and i have been able to change resolutions without any issues.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 25, 2018, 06:06:45 PM
       To All 70Ders > Check this out >

https://bitbucket.org/Dannephoto/magic-lantern/downloads/
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on May 25, 2018, 10:23:48 PM
tried both 23May build and 25May build. so far so good. tried on two memory cards sandisk extreme pro 64gb and sony 94 MBs/ 32gb cards. now i can shoot 10 bit 1832 X 1024 amost continues. i stop after couple of mins. even sony card also works great. my camera can write upto 49MB/s continues on the much slower sony card now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Danne on May 25, 2018, 10:44:53 PM
Great to hear andy_kh. A1ex sd_uhs module is a game changer...
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 28, 2018, 06:53:54 PM
So Andy, I am not clear how you can write 49 MB/s when in the past the card writer speed was max 41 MB/s.
What's up?  Sorry I have not been able to decipher uhs write speeds?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on May 28, 2018, 07:20:50 PM
Quote from: ShootMeAlready on May 28, 2018, 06:53:54 PM
So Andy, I am not clear how you can write 49 MB/s when in the past the card writer speed was max 41 MB/s.
What's up?  Sorry I have not been able to decipher uhs write speeds?

you need to read the UHS-I thread. just download danne's 25 May178 build. activate and turn on the UHS-I and test for yourself. there are newer buils but i hav not tested yet. share your experience after testing. its risky but im always ready to take risk. i recorded for one hour(not continous) and find very stable. im very happy with it. i wish lossless works for 70D

edit: done a quick test with the lastest build ie 28May18 build. very stable so far no crash. there r lots of options to choose in mlv lite setting. dont select any of the lossless bits since they are not working for 70D yet. others all fine
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Danne on May 29, 2018, 01:40:35 PM
Think I found a faulty lossless register number in lossless.c and maybe this is the piece missing for lossless to work for the 70D. Test mlv_lite and the lossless settings and report back if it´s working or not:

I don't think croprec is working for the 70D so skip that particluar module for now.


EDIT: Seems, buttons and stuff won´t work properly around 70D and mlv_lite so I´ll take those builds down.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 03, 2018, 12:22:12 AM
So Andy where is the May 23/25 build with USH-I, I have a 32GB sandisk ex. pro.  What modules do I load?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 03, 2018, 12:53:39 AM
Canon product advisory for 70d with err 70/80 (https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/product-advisories/detail/service%20notice%20eos%2070d%20error%2070%20or%20error%2080/!ut/p/z1/tVJNc4IwEP0r9tAjkwgIckTEwVZq_Szk4gQSNB1JMFCt_76h9eJQ6XhoDskm83bz3tsFCEQAcXxkW1wxwfFe3WNkbcJZ0A_GHpxMl88D6PqD6cKwhgb0DPD2DYA3lgsBusof6T50w-V6EhpjA86tS34LALX_vwYIoCJlBMTdDJMktajm2F1TMzPiaAm2iUZ0x-nZlmPaRK_RKa-KagfiFHPBN5yeTjTZFFKQj7QqH-El0jA5slJIRtVbSeWRpbTDRVUfVJQdG5IOlVJIFXXU_hP3YUNRgzJqN-zpL8tUT3QZeuFWCcfVTmM8EyBKcU4lLkFEyr0EkaKoKYqKDbquB-eODV1raAXOywCOZ70GYD0wFcAZeoY-qjldAC2UYyXZvilZV1NyZPQEVlzIXA3V4s6eBU1TGqb-bso9fVMV2PvhgFw1IYJX9LOqTf2XESny1SrvG2cNxa-Fn4W-YaLkfHr4AvGcGb4!/dz/d5/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/?urile=wcm:path:/Canon_NewWeb_Products/product-advisories/Service+Notice+EOS+70D+Error+70+or+Error+80)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on June 03, 2018, 06:21:57 AM
Quote from: ShootMeAlready on June 03, 2018, 12:22:12 AM
So Andy where is the May 23/25 build with USH-I, I have a 32GB sandisk ex. pro.  What modules do I load?

i think the build for 70D is taken down. it works very stable thought. i have been using it for the last couple of days and i have no issue so far
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Danne on June 03, 2018, 08:52:20 AM
I feel I don´t have enough time compiling for all cams but anyone can compile for the 70D here easily from this compiler helper:
https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=21882.0

Build from this branch(note that lossless isn´t working):
crop_rec_4k_mlv_lite_snd_sd_uhs_HDR_ext_all_bits
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: fjodor on June 17, 2018, 09:23:02 PM
Looking for a 70D build with USH-I to test. It seemed that we were so close to 'lossless' on the 70d, I remain hopeful  ;D
Thanks to everyone involved for the hard work!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on June 18, 2018, 11:33:37 AM
#fjodor don't be hopefull for lossless in a 70D. development for 70D is very slow and there are no good programers who can help with this camera. time to switch your camera if you want lossless. i have unsinstall ML from my 70D some months back and i wil also be switching to some other camera as soon as i can buy another camera
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: shinoda on August 10, 2018, 04:33:39 PM
Did someone compile the latest USH-I build? I'm very eager to test it! I don't know anything about compiling...
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on August 10, 2018, 04:57:00 PM
Yes, I'm using it for video recording with 70D. It works simply great. Will post it later, when I'm at my PC.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on August 10, 2018, 09:15:24 PM
In the downwloads section you will find:
https://bitbucket.org/ArcziPL/magic-lantern/downloads/

magiclantern-sduhs-Nightly.2018Jul17.70D112.zip -> original sd_uhs, which is benchmarking several settings, so you can find the best setting for your card but it takes ages to complete
magiclantern-sduhscustom-Nightly.2018Jul17.70D112.zip -> custom build, sd_uhs is fixed to SDR104@160MHz setting, it does test the throughput after patching *once*

On request I could prepare a similar mod like Danne did already for M, 100D, 700D, (*), skipping the testing completely. So far I didn't need it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: yokashin on August 11, 2018, 03:47:04 PM
Thank you  :)
It's good that someone supports 70D users.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: shinoda on August 11, 2018, 06:54:51 PM
Quote from: ArcziPL on August 10, 2018, 09:15:24 PM
In the downwloads section you will find:
https://bitbucket.org/ArcziPL/magic-lantern/downloads/

magiclantern-sduhs-Nightly.2018Jul17.70D112.zip -> original sd_uhs, which is benchmarking several settings, so you can find the best setting for your card but it takes ages to complete
magiclantern-sduhscustom-Nightly.2018Jul17.70D112.zip -> custom build, sd_uhs is fixed to SDR104@160MHz setting, it does test the throughput after patching *once*

On request I could prepare a similar mod like Danne did already for M, 100D, 700D, (*), skipping the testing completely. So far I didn't need it.

Thank you, it's very much appreciated! So you recommend to bench it with the first build? I'll do that!

Edit: I have some hiccups, I did a fresh install with the custom build (it tested it first and I have have the same settings with a SanDisk Extreme PRO): the ML menu freezes when I want to change RAW video settings... The lossless setting was the culprit, so I used the mlv_rec module. It's strange, I have the exact same settings as you (160mhz, more than 60mb/s, 40 before) but when I run the benchmark and I use raw video, it doesn't seem to change anything.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on August 12, 2018, 11:22:31 AM
#shinoda  activate crop_rec, raw, mlv, sd_uhs etc. after you restart your camera, dont turn on the raw. if you do so, your camera wil freeze .turn on only the mlv.
i have another build by Danne. i have no problem turning on the raw with that build
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on August 12, 2018, 11:53:18 AM
Hi shinoda, sorry forgot to mention: this build is directly the sd_uhs branch, which as I understood you have asked for. I don't know how good it is in RAW video recording, I only take the sd_uhs.mo from it and copy it to another build which I use. Probably the sd_uhs.mo (so the module to do overclocking) is what you really wanted.

Please, use only the ML/modules/sd_uhs.mo file from this build and copy it to your SD card with the ML build which you were using up to now and where RAW video works.

BTW: there is no build so far with lossless compression for 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on August 12, 2018, 01:48:55 PM
OK, here I post the crop_rec_4k_mlv_lite_snd with sd_uhs (160MHz fixed) added, so you can directly unpack it to your SD and use:

https://bitbucket.org/ArcziPL/magic-lantern/downloads/magiclantern-croprec4kmlvlitesnd+sd_uhs--Nightly.2018Aug10.70D112.zip


1. Start your camera in photo mode
2. Go to ML settings, Modules tab, enable: mlv_lite, mlv_snd, sd_uhs
3. Reboot
4. Go to ML settings, Movie tab, enable RAW video, in its settings change Data format to 10-bit (the normal one, without compression!)
5. Go to Debug tab, run SD overclock, wait until it's done
6. Switch to Movie mode
7. In Canon menu set 1080p 25 or 24fps
8. Start recording.

You don't need to enable the 5x zoom or anything like that. 70D will record 1832x1024 full-frame RAW in that way, providing normal, full-color live preview. You can also use the 3x zoom mode from Canon menu. Thanks to sd_uhs the recording at this resolution at 10 bit bitdepth will be continuous.

When this works, you can experiment with further settings if you want -- higher resolutions with the 5x zoom enabled etc. But I use only what described above. I don't like the broken preview of 5x zoom mode and it will also be very limited in recording time.

Forget so far about crop_rec, mlv_rec etc. You don't need them to start.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: shinoda on August 12, 2018, 02:15:40 PM
Thanks a lot guys, everything's good!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: shinoda on August 20, 2018, 05:26:48 PM
Okay so everything's working well, except mlv_play : I can't watch the MLV files after recording (just on the computer), it stays black with the frame numbers changing.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on August 20, 2018, 06:05:26 PM
u mean you cant play back on your computer? which player do you use?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: shinoda on August 20, 2018, 07:54:59 PM
No, playback on the 70D, no issue with playing MLV files on the computer.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: shinoda on August 21, 2018, 03:51:54 PM
The mlv_play module was not updated since 02/17 and the latest one from june seems to have fixed some issues: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/3f90c436d85aff183af93b9bf6a30224811e5fa2

Anyone has the same issue as me?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on August 21, 2018, 05:08:56 PM
Quote from: shinoda on August 21, 2018, 03:51:54 PM
The mlv_play module was not updated since 02/17 and the latest one from june seems to have fixed some issues
Either I can't follow you or you've mixed up the dates. (?)

The compiled crop_rec_4k_mlv_lite_snd branch, which I linked some posts before, has the mlv_play module in version from 02.2018. The patch, which you mentions, was commited by g3gg0 in June 2017. As a result, this patch is already included in the mlv_play which I posted. So either it just doesn't work on 70D or there was a regression due to the following commits... Going some revisions back would be needed to find it out. FYI: I haven't used mlv_play at all yet.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on August 21, 2018, 07:01:53 PM
Just came home and tested: it works with 14-bit videos recorded with mlv_lite but not with 10-bit. The patch from g3gg0, which you mentioned, was rather addressing another problem.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: shinoda on August 21, 2018, 07:31:16 PM
Quote from: ArcziPL on August 21, 2018, 05:08:56 PM
Either I can't follow you or you've mixed up the dates. (?)

The compiled crop_rec_4k_mlv_lite_snd branch, which I linked some posts before, has the mlv_play module in version from 02.2018. The patch, which you mentions, was commited by g3gg0 in June 2017. As a result, this patch is already included in the mlv_play which I posted. So either it just doesn't work on 70D or there was a regression due to the following commits... Going some revisions back would be needed to find it out. FYI: I haven't used mlv_play at all yet.

Sorry, i was talking about february 12, my bad for the poorly formatted date, and I see I misred the commit...

Same behaviour here: working in 14-bit but not for 10 or 12-bit. Recording seems continuous in 1600*900 with this bit depth, so it'll do! (i just wanted to have some playback for outside shootings)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on August 21, 2018, 11:04:23 PM
Had a little time at hand (havent had too much of that lately unfortunatley), and I am trying to get back into the line skipping/binning experiment here, and I observed something. The task was to change the ADTG2[800c], but are we sure that is the right register? It only appears after I played back a h.264 file, not after I recorded it. I can only see it when all 567 something registers are visible, when I stay in video mode (without playback) and go into 5x or change to 1080p, the maximum I can see are 160 something registers.

Should the ADTG reigster I am looking for change when I go into 5x zoom mode? Because there are some that do. I am trying to wrap my head around where I should start looking. In other words - what is an action that I can implement that should defintely move the register I am looking for?

In post #3111 a1ex said that the CMOS registers are likely different. does that mean the VALUE for ADTG2[800c], or a different register alltogether?

It seems to me that this is a task that could potentially be solved, since lossless compression appears to be too complicated for mere earthlings ;). It would also mean that with the new sd card overclocking feature the 70d could venture into useful slow-mo terretory (in case anyone else with a little time and limited knowledge needed an incentive - or am I missing something?)

As always, thank you everybody for contributing,
Cheers Dave
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on August 22, 2018, 10:05:30 PM
Quote from: shinoda on August 21, 2018, 07:31:16 PM
Same behaviour here: working in 14-bit but not for 10 or 12-bit. Recording seems continuous in 1600*900 with this bit depth, so it'll do! (i just wanted to have some playback for outside shootings)

Just checked recording with mlv_lite from the crop_rec_4k_mlv_snd build on EOS M and the result is same:
14bpp video: plays with mlv_play, showing 14 bit
12bpp video: black screen, showing 12 bit
14bpp lossless video: plays with mlv_play, showing 14 bit JP92
12bpp lossless video: plays with mlv_play, showing 14 bit JP92 (so it seems to work, as the output of the decompressor is 14 bit)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on August 24, 2018, 06:09:12 PM
Hey everyone! I think I made a major step forward with the crop_rec module. I discovered that the weird stripe patterns go away when I change CMOS(b) from 0x800 to 0x600. Oddly enough the value in 1080p mode is 0x400! Video in the link is the one I recorded with both ADTG[800c] and CMOS(b) changed!

https://we.tl/t-XlugLACvNW

Is this as useful as I hope it is  :P ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on August 25, 2018, 09:27:22 AM
I found a reproducable way to get h264 AND raw recording, without the white borders :D!!! It still got the pink and green pixel and the lag but its working fine otherwise :D!!
I had to overwrite CMOS(b) to 200 (from 800, value in 1080p is 400) and CMOS(a) to 1f1 (from 5f1, value in 1080p is also 1f1 !!)
I think in my original attempt I didnt refresh the live screen often enough to see which register had which impact
Here's the Link
https://we.tl/t-Ea1XGM5Rkw

As always, hope this helps :D!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on August 25, 2018, 09:38:24 AM
Sounds promising; mind summarizing what registers you have changed? A screenshot of adtg_gui, showing the "Overriden regs only" tab, should be good enough.

Register 0x800c is the line skipping factor, and MLV metadata shows 60 FPS. Are you trying to get 50/60 FPS with 3x3 binning, right?




Unrelated: just stumbled upon something interesting in the firmware. Not sure if nikfreak or anyone else tried that.


call("lv_daf_mode", 1); // "FACTORY:AB_OUT_LEFT"
call("lv_daf_mode", 2); // "FACTORY:AB_OUT_RIGHT"
call("lv_daf_mode", 0); // guess: default, both "channels"


I'd like to see some DNGs from LiveView (plain 1080p) after calling the above functions, without camera movement between the test shots if possible.

@David_Hugh: are you able to compile from source?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on August 25, 2018, 05:44:08 PM
Canon EOS 70D 1.1.2
00f0000a:     5f1 ISO=800 Tv=160 Av=28 lv=1 zoom=1 mv=1 res=1 crop=0 task=Evf pc=49fb4 addr=404e7874
00f0000b:     800 ISO=800 Tv=160 Av=28 lv=1 zoom=1 mv=1 res=1 crop=0 task=Evf pc=49fb4 addr=404e7876
0002800c:       4 ISO=800 Tv=160 Av=28 lv=1 zoom=1 mv=1 res=1 crop=0 task=Evf pc=4b5e8 addr=404e5e1c Line skipping factor (2 = 1080p, 4 = 720p, 0 = zoom)


Is this the right format of the log? Yes I am trying to get the 720p/60fps mode to work with 3x3 binning, trying to follow instructions that dfort gave back in march  ::). Anyway, what I did was

ADTG2[800c] from 4 -->2
CMOS (b) from 800 --> 200  (this is the only value that differs from 1080p mode, its 400 in 1080p
CMOS (a) from 5f1 --> 1f1

Unfortunately I am still not able to compile, I am trying to get there. My method atm was to find registers that change when switching video modes and trying to find combinations that work. In other words, using brute force
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on September 02, 2018, 12:58:38 PM
As for the crop_rec experiment, I still have the same problems of stuttering (because fps override doesn't work on the 70D I believe), but I also think I'm really onto something. In the link below I shot a scene which I know produces extreme moire and color artifacts for me when shot in 720p mode, but as you can see, in the crop_rec mode this is greatly reduced. This really is the improvement in image quality in 720/60p mode I was looking for, but I guess in order for it to work properly I have to get more familiar with the registers and above all compiling...  :P.  https://we.tl/t-14HITuZvg6
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on September 08, 2018, 09:06:18 PM
Alright,
Nothing quite new regarding 60fps 3x3 on the 70D, but here is the requested screenshot with the overidden registers and a screenshot of the frame it produces. As you can see it still got some artifacts and the frames also freeze from time to time during recording. 


(https://thumb.ibb.co/gXcNqU/regs.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gXcNqU)

(https://thumb.ibb.co/iaufc9/crop_rec_70_D_experimental.jpg) (https://ibb.co/iaufc9)
Also, I am able to compile now (yay - thanks @dfort for helping me set up an environment). However, as I already said before, I have ZERO coding experience so with regard to the requested functions you'd have to tell me exactly where to insert them in the code.

Totally unrelated. As I know nothing of the architecture of the cams I'm not sure if that's relevant but the reason why I decided for a 70D in the first place is that it's the only cam that runs ML with dual pixel AF, right? Maybe that's why some things work differently? Just a random thought.

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on September 08, 2018, 09:29:07 PM
Yes, dual pixel raw is pretty interesting - I've even got some ideas (https://a1ex.magiclantern.fm/bleeding-edge/5D4/5d4-dual-pixel.html) that might help recovering out of focus images (look at [17], [18], [22] and [23]). Only tested on synthetic dual pixel images, with artificial blur and artificial Gaussian noise (in other words, spherical chickens in a vacuum).

I'd try something along these lines - test code goes in debug.c, "Don't click me" menu entry:


diff -r 7fe64903a4de src/debug.c
--- a/src/debug.c
+++ b/src/debug.c
@@ -146,6 +146,8 @@
}

+/* a bit of a hack, but we can just reuse this for dumping the raw buffer */
static void dump_img_task(void* priv, int unused)
{
+#if 0   /* we don't need these delays for our experiment */
     for (int i = 5; i > 0; i--)
     {
@@ -154,4 +156,5 @@
     }
     NotifyBox(5000, "Dumping VRAMs...");
+#endif
     
     FILE * f = NULL;
@@ -275,6 +278,15 @@
#endif

+/* run "Don't click me", then don't move the camera until finished */
static void run_test()
{
+    msleep(5000);           /* wait for camera vibrations to settle after activating the menu */
+    dump_img_task(0, 0);    /* dump default raw buffer */
+    call("lv_daf_mode", 1); // "FACTORY:AB_OUT_LEFT"
+    dump_img_task(0, 0);    /* expecting image slightly shifted in one direction horizontally */
+    call("lv_daf_mode", 2); // "FACTORY:AB_OUT_RIGHT"
+    dump_img_task(0, 0);    /* expecting image slightly shifted in the other direction */
+    call("lv_daf_mode", 0); // guess: default, both "channels"
+    dump_img_task(0, 0);    /* expecting an image identical to the first one (except for the random noise) */
}


The artifacts from your screenshot are just bad pixels (all cameras have them). ML renders a very low-res aliased preview, to minimize CPU usage; that makes some image defects more noticeable than they really are. Canon preview is done on their image processor (outside the main CPU), but we don't fully understand it (just slowly making progress).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on September 09, 2018, 10:17:12 AM
Here's the test results! Pretty ähm.. interesting  :P.

But almost like you expected, right?
https://we.tl/t-BykEItcY9C
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on September 09, 2018, 12:30:06 PM
Also, could somebody point me in a direction with regard to the 720p 60fps 3x3 experiment? dfort advised me to lower the fps, but as far as I know, fps overrider doesn't work on the 70D. So I guess I'd have to manually mess with timer A and B, right? Are the timer registers known on the 70D? Because I cant seem to find C0F0[6000] or [6008], which are the registers for other cams if I'm not mistaken?

Should this measure fix the lagging/temporarily freezing recording and preview?
Seems like I'm not too far off but since I know so little about image processing in general I can't really gauge if I'm close or if there are other substantial parts missing in order for this to work.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on September 09, 2018, 09:00:38 PM
Quote from: David_Hugh on September 09, 2018, 10:17:12 AM
Here's the test results! Pretty ähm.. interesting  :P.

But almost like you expected, right?
https://we.tl/t-BykEItcY9C

Haha, well... not exactly what I was expecting, but nevertheless, very interesting.

Initial notes: 70D-dual-pixel.html (https://a1ex.magiclantern.fm/bleeding-edge/70D/dual-pixel/70D-dual-pixel.html) (13MB)

(https://a1ex.magiclantern.fm/bleeding-edge/70D/dual-pixel/bb.gif)




Quote from: David_Hugh on September 09, 2018, 12:30:06 PM
Also, could somebody point me in a direction with regard to the 720p 60fps 3x3 experiment? dfort advised me to lower the fps, but as far as I know, fps overrider doesn't work on the 70D. So I guess I'd have to manually mess with timer A and B, right? Are the timer registers known on the 70D? Because I cant seem to find C0F0[6000] or [6008], which are the registers for other cams if I'm not mistaken?

To reduce the FPS, increase C0F06008 (timer A) or C0F06014 (timer B) from adtg_gui. If these registers do not appear, you may need an updated build, as timer B may go back and forth between two values (so old adtg_gui will dismiss it as "noise"). Nikfreak reported this method to work on 70D back then, and I'm working on a rewrite of the entire FPS override implementation to use this method. Didn't get too far, only confirmed the same method would also fix some issues with 700D.

General idea: increase timer A for more horizontal resolution and timer B for more vertical resolution. There may be some multiplier, i.e. 1 timer A increment = 8 pixels on 5D3 and 4 on 700D. Will do the math for 70D later.

Some numeric examples from 5D2 (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=19336.msg205614#msg205614) (although this model has fewer registers, therefore a lot easier). On DIGIC 5 models you'll also have some powersaving registers (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=19300.msg202783#msg202783); for experiments, just set them to 0.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: domasa on September 10, 2018, 10:26:37 AM
How use dual pixel:
https://vimeo.com/266885691
(it's not mine video)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on September 10, 2018, 08:32:59 PM
Ok, no I can definitely not see the Timer A and B registers. I think part of the problem may be that the adtg_gui build I have is a custom build that @dfort provided me with back in March. Now I have the problem that crop_rec_4k doesn't compile for me
#error FIXME: please define FRAME_SHUTTER_BLANKING_READ

and the branch that does compile (crop_rec_4k_mlv_snd) doesn't allow me to make adtg_gui.mo. I am also not able to use the adtg_gui.mo from the download page with this build. Am I right in assuming that this is because the 70D isn't really fully integrated into one of the main branches? Either way, pretty much stuck with regard to the crop_rec  720p 60fps experiment :(.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on September 10, 2018, 08:54:27 PM
These are some experimental updates that did not work on 700D/650D/EOSM either, but I have yet to implement a fully working solution (at least I know what to do, just need to sit down and code it).

I've updated adtg_gui here (http://builds.magiclantern.fm/modules.html); expecting it to work, but didn't test. If it's not working on top of your custom build, I can debug it in QEMU.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on September 11, 2018, 12:37:30 AM
The new atdg_gui works nicely, thanks!

With every new possibility it seems there are some new mysteries to be uncovered. The positive first: It seems indeed that my "stuttering" problems in crop mode were related to fps issues. Because, I was able to change fps to roughly 25fps and now I have an (almost) perfect 3x3 crop_rec mlv file!. There is minor ghisting going on but the preview and file are stutter free. However, and here the mysteries begin:

I could not see/find a C0F0 [6008], but a C0F0 [6014] and [6024] which had the same value. I needed to change BOTH of them in order for the image not to freeze. In this manner, I was able to lower the fps in the crop_rec module AND in regular 1080p, but I could only lower fps, not increase.

Needless to say, changing fps also messed up the way I originally changed the CMOS registers to get normal frames in crop_rec. Now all I had to do was change CMOS (b) from 800 -->300 and leave CMOS [a] alone.

There are some minor ghosting effects in this MLV, otherwise it is fine.

As always, hope this somehow helps more than it complicates matters  :P

(https://thumb.ibb.co/fVnSC9/fps_override_crop_rec_3x3_frame_98.png) (https://ibb.co/fVnSC9)

Here's a frame that shows the defect.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on September 11, 2018, 09:40:45 AM
That ghosting is unusual - dual pixel AF messed up?! Not sure what to suggest for fixing it... is there any way to turn off DPAF in Canon menu? You could also try "diff-ing" the two video modes (1080p and 720p), with the "Modified from now on" option in adtg_gui:

Quote from: a1ex on February 10, 2018, 05:36:34 PM
Step by step:
- select 720p50 in Canon menu
- enable ADTG Registers
- go to PLAY mode and back to get all the registers
- select Show -> Modified from now on (also displayed as "since HH:MM:SS")
- go to PLAY mode and back, make sure it shows nothing (if it does, repeat a few times)
- select 1080p25 in Canon menu
- go to ADTG registers menu and notice some registers appeared
- to double-check: go back to 720p50 and make sure it shows nothing
- back to 1080p25 and the registers should appear again
- select Advanced -> Log Registers Now (to save the modified registers to a log file)

That's the general procedure for "diff-ing" two video modes.

6014 and 6024 with the same value? That smells like DIGIC 6.

6008 is set only once when entering LiveView, so you should do that with adtg_gui enabled in order to see it. Going to PLAY mode and back, or pressing MENU twice, will do the trick. This register is interesting only if you want to increase horizontal resolution (and you can only do that in 1:1 crop modes).

Does the latest adtg_gui still show brackets for these? ENGIO registers were added as an afterthought, so it was just easier to display them like that on the existing, but their "name" is without brackets.

FPS issues might be because of adtg_gui overhead - there are a LOT of registers updated at every frame, and keeping track of all of them takes CPU time. For this reason, adtg_gui might not be the best tool for high FPS. For now, you may focus on getting clean image when overriding the line skipping factor the 720p mode.

It would be interesting to find out what Canon does with that DPAF test image; will prepare some more experiments later.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on September 11, 2018, 11:01:54 AM
I'll let others eveluate if this is really what I hope it is but I think I had a minor breakthrough! Sometimes the simplest solutions are the best. I thought, well if 60fps is causing too much lag and 25fps works fine, maybe 50fps is low enough in order for things to work properly. So I switched to PAL video mode in canon menu and redid my original changes (without messing with timer A and B) AND IT WORKED!

The vertical resolution is limited to 626 pixels at the moment (I think was to be expected without the timer changes, right?) BUT, the files are not strechted and there is (stretched) real time preview and recording! For me personally (and everyone else with a 70D) this means that slow-mo recording has become at least moire free and the resolution is good enough in 2.35:1 to be incorporated into a 1080p project (in my opinion) :D!

Here's a frame!

(https://thumb.ibb.co/iAtcep/M11_0947_frame_19.png) (https://ibb.co/iAtcep)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on September 11, 2018, 11:09:04 AM
I know I'm late with this one, but mind taking the resolution chart pictures as described here (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16516.0)?

Quote from: a1ex on January 21, 2016, 08:52:22 AM
If anybody could shoot some resolution charts in LiveView (silent pictures in 5x, 1080p and 720p, without touching the camera - I need more than pixel-perfect alignment), I can verify if these patterns are indeed the correct ones or not. If you don't use a remote release, you can take this test with the "Silent zoom bracket" option from the latest raw_diag to avoid camera movement.

That's to confirm or deny previous reports saying that 70D has worse aliasing compared to other cameras.

Looking for tests in 1080p25, 720p50 and 720p50 3x3.

edit: I'll cross-check the results with a 60D (expecting the same aliasing levels as 600D).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on September 11, 2018, 11:24:01 AM
Yes! Will do in the evening when I have time to print/set up. I am curious to see the results myself, from my experience (had a 600D before) I'd say that moire really is a little worse, even in regular 1080p mode.

For now, I can also report that I fixed the ghosting in fps override! turns out i forgot to override the line skipping factor before...  :( . Anyway, here's a frame from 3x3 in 720p mode at 21fps. Sorry for the weird aspect ratio, forgot to change it in ML menu, the frame is not stretched just 1824x466 ^^. This mode (fps override enabled) requires different changes than if I leave timer B untouched.


(https://thumb.ibb.co/ftq1N9/M11_1022_frame_96.png) (https://ibb.co/ftq1N9)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on September 11, 2018, 07:37:59 PM
I hope I did this test  thoroughly enough to do some real pixel peeping, what's apparent either way (at least for me) is 2 things. First, 3x3 binning or whatever this crop_rec magic module does produces insanely less moire than regular 720p mode which is all over the place. But secondly, sadly, it seems I have an offset in the framing in this mode, it's shifted to the top. Here's the DNGs!

https://we.tl/t-ZOLCNmhmPV
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on September 11, 2018, 07:41:21 PM
Hm... the  "Silent zoom bracket" option from the latest raw_diag didn't work?

That should take a DNG screenshot in plain 1080p and - without you having to touch the camera at all - another one in x5. You'll also have to enable the option to dump the raw buffer in raw_diag.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on September 11, 2018, 07:58:02 PM
No, not with the 3x3 mode. I can retake the others with silent zoom bracketing tomorrow if that makes a diffenrence!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on September 13, 2018, 12:47:26 PM
Somehow the silent zoom bracketing doesnt quite do what it's supposed to. When I don't turn on MLV_REC it takes the 1080p but not the 5x zoom picture and when I DO turn on MLV_REC it takes the 5xzoom but not the regular one. It never takes both  :-\?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on September 13, 2018, 03:27:34 PM
Sorry, forgot how to use this one - it was supposed to work together with the silent picture module, not the raw dumping option from raw_diag. You should enable simple silent pictures manually. Make sure AF is disabled.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on September 13, 2018, 04:47:19 PM
Yes, I figured that much, but still - somehow the module doesnt take 2 different pictures. If it makes any difference here are the 1080p, 720p and 720 3x3 again. In 1080p it only took 1 picture, but at leastbecause of the timer I didnt touch the cam when Photo was taken. In the 720p modes the module took 2 pictures each but not with a zoom^^. in this case it is always the second picture I am providing because I thought it couldn't hurt^^. are the 5x required for the kind of work you want to do?
https://we.tl/t-lNZHfc0xN1
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on September 13, 2018, 06:48:08 PM
Yes, comparing 1x with 5x without any sort of camera movement is important for identifying the binning pattern.

The silent zoom bracket does 2 half-shutter presses, one in 1x and one in 5x. That's all it does. The silent picture module is triggered by half-shutter. I've tested it on 500D, it actually took 2 pictures. Modules loaded: silent.mo and raw_diag.mo. Silent pictures enabled manually, default settings. Movie mode 1080p.

Silent picture module requires long half-shutter press if AF is enabled, that's why I've asked you to disable it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on September 13, 2018, 08:11:04 PM
Here's a short video of the process. As you can see, triggering silent zoom bracket takes 1 picture in 1080p mode for me and 2 in 720p mode, none of them in zoom mode. As always I happily invite everyone to point out my stupidity if I'm simply not getting it!

https://we.tl/t-qunk4YGu3R
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on September 13, 2018, 08:14:26 PM
Hm, it's not going into x5 zoom mode. Maybe it just needs larger delays.

In raw_diag.c (iso-research branch), silent_zoom_bracket, try msleep(5000) instead of 2000. Recompile just the module.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on September 13, 2018, 11:13:05 PM
Yes! Programming the delay differently did the trick :)!

Now everything worked as expected! Aaand once again, here are the DNGs haha.

https://we.tl/t-9hLb7ZFFOO

With the crop_rec experiment, I am once again not able to find the right reigsters to mess with vertical resolution. Should I in theory be able to expand the vertical resolution in the "normal" 720 mode or is this only possible in 5xZoom and with raising timer B? Is it possible that 636x 1824 is the maximum I can achieve, like on the 6d?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on September 13, 2018, 11:18:35 PM
Nice! If the camera did not move during the experiment, that's exactly what I was looking for. Now to sit down and interpret the results, but I might delay this a bit.

Increasing resolution should work without much fuss, until the image breaks. Just take care of the powersave registers, as they operate on the vertical direction (if in doubt, set them to 0 - that worked here, but the sensor might run a bit hotter). The crop_rec module already has these registers generic, so you shouldn't need to take care of them.

For FPS, the optimal configuration is with timer A minimized and B maximized. This minimizes the rolling shutter and pushes the resolution as far as it can get. I wonder why Canon did not always use it...

When reducing timer A, check with raw_diag OB zones for bad columns on the right side. Once that happens, go back (increase it). The trick is to find the lowest value that still gives clean image (including in the last few columns). Sometimes this is identical to Canon value, sometimes a few units lower, sometimes noticeably lower (5D3 25p: 480 -> 398 (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=21379)).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on September 21, 2018, 10:17:08 PM
After half a year since switching to 70D: I like it a lot, also ML works absolutely fabulous. I find the stability of ML even better than on 700D which was crashing for me randomly from time to time. This was anyway only few times a year but 70D seems to not crash at all. By crash I mean null pointer exceptions or similar stuff -- the console pops and restart is needed; not that big deal.

Bug report:

The only thing which bothers me is a function to adjust ISO and white balance in Live View using the up/down/left/right button. Sometimes it gets suddenly activated (ISO+, ISO-, WB+, WB- labels appear on screen) without any reason I would be aware of. I don't even know how to reproduce it. It just sometimes pops up unexpected.

- How is it supposed to be activated?
- Is there a way to disable this function completely? It drives me crazy as I am using these keys very often to move the focus box around the screen and then suddenly I'm changing the ISO and WB, which forces me to stop photographing and fix the settings.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on September 21, 2018, 10:26:59 PM
That's FEATURE_ARROW_SHORTCUTS (undefine it in features.h). The trigger key is model-specific; here it's defined as "METERING btn" / BGMT_PRESS_METERING_OR_AFAREA. Maybe this definition covers some other button presses.

Maybe you can suggest another shortcut key, that would be easier to detect?

If no suitable key is found, I'll just disable the feature and other related 70D exceptions, as I'm unable to verify them anyway.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on September 24, 2018, 09:29:24 PM
Great, thanks a lot! I'll disable it for my use.

Just checked again: I entered LV and tried pressing each button, including shutter release half-press. This feature did not get activated by any of them. It always happens when I'm in hurry and click a lot... And that moments are not the right ones for a closer analysis... :/

Regarding an alternative button: I have found only one button not having any function assigned in LV and this is the AF sensor group selection button, next to the shutter release (marked red on the photo below).

(https://i.postimg.cc/MXdHWG4D/70d_top_focus_area_selection.png) (https://postimg.cc/MXdHWG4D)

Not sure if it could be caught by ML at all. From the other buttons, they all have functions in LV and I use them all, so personally I would not prefer to have them overriden (but as a RAW-shooter I don't use WB at all and ISO is anyway well accessible anyway; for shooting JPEGs the WB is a good idea).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: stan101 on September 26, 2018, 08:15:17 AM
Quote from: ArcziPL on September 21, 2018, 10:17:08 PM

Bug report:


- How is it supposed to be activated?
- Is there a way to disable this function completely? It drives me crazy as I am using these keys very often to move the focus box around the screen and then suddenly I'm changing the ISO and WB, which forces me to stop photographing and fix the settings.

I activate this with WB so often and like you I am unsure how I do it. I haven't sent a bug report as I couldn't replicate it, but it regularly happens. I will play around and see if I can find how I am triggering it. If I find it, I will let you know.

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Levas on September 26, 2018, 08:49:27 AM
About this so called bug, it's not a bug, it's a setting.
Had it happen very often, while moving around the focus box etc, suddenly whitebhlance and iso settings pop up.
These are probably the settings you're looking for: Prefs tab in ML menu ->Arrow/SET shortcuts, ISO/Kelvin and use SET button are on by default.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1974/44922946281_4565a27d96_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on September 26, 2018, 09:21:09 AM
Quote from: Levas on September 26, 2018, 08:49:27 AM
Had it happen very often, while moving around the focus box etc, suddenly whitebhlance and iso settings pop up.

That does sound like a bug; it should be triggered only by a well-defined shortcut key (the one displayed in the Help tab, not by random button presses).

6D is also affected?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Levas on September 26, 2018, 10:58:42 AM
Oh, ok. To be more precise: Had it happen very often, in the past, not with recent builds, probably over a year ago or something.
Now I'm looking in the help menu I see it's triggered, on the 6d at least, by the focus points selection button.
Didn't know that  ???
Maybe it was another button in earlier builds, more then a year ago or something ?

I would expect to see the button, with which the 'Arrow/SET shortcuts' could be triggered, to be displayed somewhere in the same setting menu.
So in the Prefs tab, within the Arrow/SET shortcuts menu, maybe add a line of tekst in the bottom that it is triggered by using focus point selection key?
But it's probably a different key by each camera.



Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on September 26, 2018, 06:05:35 PM
It is in that menu, in the help text. The button was not changed in the last few years.

From the QEMU experiments, I remember Canon's MPU sending the "unpress zoom" button event with every GUI mode change (i.e. the button currently configured on 6D). That should explain why it triggered randomly.

Will disable this feature on both cameras.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Audionut on September 27, 2018, 04:54:20 AM
I can recall some weird behavior on 6D some time ago.
I'm currently sitting on a build from 30/07 (iso_research).

None of the arrow/SET shortcuts options are having any effect here in either liveview modes.
The arrow keys only move the focus box, regardless of arrow/SET settings.

In photo live view, SET key function in canon settings has an effect. 
SET key set in canon to off, focus box resets to center on set key press.
SET key set to ISO in canon settings, focus box does not reset to center, some other display overrides quickly, then sits in the background as long as the set key is pressed.
(https://i.postimg.cc/HLr16Cbj/arrow.png)

In movie live view, canon setting has no effect.  Focus box always resets to center on set key press.

edit:  I tried to confirm the correct behavior using that nifty display you created for the homepage, but the arrow keys do nothing in either live view mode there.  :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: stan101 on October 07, 2018, 05:02:34 AM
Quote from: Levas on September 26, 2018, 08:49:27 AM
About this so called bug, it's not a bug, it's a setting.
Had it happen very often, while moving around the focus box etc, suddenly whitebhlance and iso settings pop up.
These are probably the settings you're looking for: Prefs tab in ML menu ->Arrow/SET shortcuts, ISO/Kelvin and use SET button are on by default.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1974/44922946281_4565a27d96_o.jpg)

Your screen shot is different to mine. On mine the orange text says "This feature only works in movie mode" and besides, it was turned off.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on October 07, 2018, 06:40:50 AM
I'm trying to revive a 70D whose battery was removed in the middle of a firmware update; need to reflash the ROM for that.

As I've never performed this procedure on 70D, I'd like to experiment on a defective camera first, to avoid damaging the good camera by mistake.

Quote from: a1ex on October 07, 2018, 06:34:28 AM
If anyone has a 70D that powers on, but it's otherwise unusable and it's not going to be repaired, I'd like to try the reflashing routine on that camera first.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on November 25, 2018, 12:32:26 AM
Hi, a problem report: Dual ISO just stopped working for me.

When enabling it in ML menu I get ISOless PH err(7). It's interesting, as it's similar to what I was getting on my 700D until Bilal found the alternative adresses of the registers which do work also for my camera.

I can't tell when and what has changed since the last time the DualISO was still working, as I don't use this function often: last time was somewhen in summer.

I tried to revert to older ML version but it didn't help. I wonder if resetting the Canon settings would help but at the moment I'm reluctant to do so as I customize the camera's settings a lot and don't see an easy way of listing/storing the altered setting in order to apply them all afterwards quickly. Or is there a way to backup and recall the setup later?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on November 25, 2018, 04:20:50 PM
In your case (i.e. able to compile from source), the recommended workaround is the following:

- get adtg_gui (https://builds.magiclantern.fm/modules.html#iso-research) (or compile it from the iso-research branch if you prefer)
- expecting it to work out of the box on any recent 70D build
- write down the address of CMOS[0]
- compare it with the address of PHOTO_CMOS_ISO_START from dual_iso.c

Saving and restoring Canon settings is not currently supported; they are just too many, and many of them have hardcoded behaviors, or even missing validation checks*). Some of them may have quirks; see e.g. this apparently trivial task (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=22874.0) showing differences in one property (PROP_VIDEO_MODE) across different cameras (not in functionality, but in the preconditions required to change it and in persistence).

*) An example: setting some invalid value to PROP_PIC_QUALITY (whose values are camera-specific, btw) is going to give ERR70, but that doesn't prevent it from being saved in the non-volatile memory. That means, you'll get that ERR70 at subsequent reboots, too. You don't even need ML to trigger this error; some USB remote control apps caused this, too (on other models; not aware of such incidents on 70D). So far, this condition was recoverable (on some models, via gphoto2, on others, with custom code that restored the valid value at startup).

I was thinking to implement some sort of Modified menu for common Canon settings; that should be easier, as most of the properties are common across models, but didn't start writing any code for it, except for identifying their associated MPU messages (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/src/qemu/contrib/qemu/eos/mpu_spells/known_spells.py). It should be debuggable in QEMU.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on November 25, 2018, 07:10:21 PM
70D section from dual_iso.c:

/* Photo Mode
        100 - 0x40451664 value (0x3)
        200 - 0x40451678
        400 - 0x4045168c
        800 - 0x404516a0
        1600 -0x404516b4
        3200 -0x404516c8
        6400 -0x404516dc value (0xdb)
        12800-0x404516dc value (0xdb) like ISO 6400 */

PHOTO_CMOS_ISO_START = 0x40451664; // CMOS register 0000 - for photo mode, ISO 100


My camera in photo mode, ISO100:
cmos[0]: 0x404e5664, value 0x03


Changed the dual_iso.c with the actual address for my camera, compiled, tested => it works.

I'll try playing around with the Canon menu settings which I possible altered recently to try fail it again. For sure I have registered some new lenses in AFMA menu which AFAIR is not modifiable from menu (it seems one can't just delete entries...) but there may be more.

Thank you a1ex for a quick response and guiding.

It seems we have such non-deterministic addresses in several cameras for several settings...



Thinking about some solutions/workarounds:
1. How do you find a workaround that the module is aware of both addresses, first tries the preferred one and, when it fails, tries the other one. In case of a success, the working one is set as preferred for the next time. It seems the module can detect a wrong address, as the error info is then displayed. It also seems that trying the wrong one is safe, as I didn't experience any bad side effect.
2. Is there an option to auto-detect the CMOS[0] in a similar way the adtg_gui is doing it? I believe it's harded to achieve, as adtg_gui seems to use some memory-hacks which you rather try to avoid and it requires taking a photo with ISO100 setting to get the right address.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: domo94 on November 29, 2018, 05:50:33 AM
Hi there,

Canon 7D user here.
I really love my 7D, but the poor low light performance, high noise ratio is starting to take a toll for me and I'm just weighing options here.

I have been looking into the 70D because it's like a brother to the 7D. I've already invested in lenses & I still want to stay with Canon, and APS-C sensor because I find no need to switch an entire camera system if I do not need to.
Magic Lantern RAW produces such incredible footage, I'm happy using it all the time. + I don't like Sony, tbh.

I have invested into the 7D VAF Anti-aliasing filter as well, and I'm curious to know, will that same filter fit within the 70D body or does it sit loose? Is there a minor difference or a big one? Because if so, I could find a work around to ensure the VAF filter fits, therefore justifying me purchasing a 70D.

I'd love to get some help from you guys. Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: KetoDuo on December 07, 2018, 02:53:47 AM
I recently installed Magic Lantern Nightly Build Oct, 11, 18 112 on my 70D. Apparently I am having the same issues discussed in this post. The Canon screen keeps timing out, causing my live screen to glitch. I'm a bit confused as to which processes corrected this issue. Can someone please help me? Really need to get this straightened out before we leave for the holidays. THX!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on December 09, 2018, 10:40:16 AM
Quote from: domo94 on November 29, 2018, 05:50:33 AM
I have been looking into the 70D because it's like a brother to the 7D.
I'd love to get some help from you guys. Thanks!

70D is a good camera, much better in low light than other apsc cameras but i wil not recommend you to buy 70d for using magic lantern. it doesnt work well yet like other cameras. im planing to sell my 70d n switch to some other camera
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on December 26, 2018, 11:04:14 AM
one good news for 70D with the latest build ie 24Dec18 build. i dont have face tracking problem anymore which i used to have with older builds. there are other improvements as well. i wil do more test and try to share
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on December 26, 2018, 08:12:46 PM
That's nice if it's really fixed, but it might as well be placebo. I didn't do anything special to fix that particular issue. I've only included some backend improvements and fixes for other issues found in other models.

If you (or anyone else) knows a way to reproduce that bug, that should help narrowing it down (or knowing for sure whether that bug was fixed or not).

Menu timeout fix should be included as well.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on December 26, 2018, 09:14:39 PM
What is this bug about? Does it occur in photo mode or in raw video only?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: fekberg on December 27, 2018, 11:41:11 AM
If this has been asked before I apologise!

Will the 70D with ML handle 60 minutes of continuous recording without overheating? Given that it's indoors and not overly hot inside.

Also, will there be a few seconds gap right after 29.59 mins?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on December 28, 2018, 08:26:01 PM
Quote from: fekberg on December 27, 2018, 11:41:11 AM
Will the 70D with ML handle 60 minutes of continuous recording without overheating?

AFAIK 50D is the only cam known for having troubles with temperature. Temperature will - of course - rise during record. You may be able to reduce internal heat-up by using external power source.

Quote from: fekberg on December 27, 2018, 11:41:11 AM
Also, will there be a few seconds gap right after 29.59 mins?

You will loose < 1 seconds in H.264 (native Canon MOV) all 29:59 minutes
There is no limitation but temperature and card space and battery capacity using ML raw/mlv. If you can handle bandwidth...
And you may use HDMI liveview without duration limit, too.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 09, 2019, 06:42:00 PM
70D if you shoot 10bit raw video, yes it will get hot, as in hot pixels.
Keep ISO to 400 or less, to minimize this when shooting raw.
Same applies to long exposures.

Hot Pixels will kick in within minutes well before any overheat issues.

If you shoot H264 then Hot Pixels are not an issue, and ISO is good to about 1600.

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Mac_28 on January 13, 2019, 03:41:41 PM
Hi everyone...

can someone please enlight me on this question, on lat builds for the 70D I have seen always the same test fail, what is the "Null Pointer test fail"  and what could be the consequences for the camera if I install that build with that fail.... could the camera be damaged or it is a minor issue that does not affects the camera....?

Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: SouthPark on January 22, 2019, 01:40:04 AM
Magic Lantern is fantastic. I particularly love the focus peaking feature. The only hair-tearing hair-ripping frustrating time I had was trying to make it work after needing to update the camera firmware to 1.1.2 -- was not remembering to reset camera settings to default settings after completing the update of firmware version 1.1.2. This is no fault at all with magic lantern.

I spent ages trying to figure out why no focus peaking dots were appearing in the magic lantern live view screen - trying a bunch of things like retrying current version and previous versions of magic lantern for the 70D. We usually get to the bottom of it at the end. The thing that I messed up on is forgetting about, or not knowing that I needed to go into the Canon 70D settings immediately after the 1.1.2 firmware update, and manually reset or clear all the current camera settings. In other words .....  go back to camera default settings after 1.1.2 firmware update. Once done, back in action again with the focus peaking.

I'm sure that others have gone down this same path.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Danialdaneshmand on January 24, 2019, 08:26:50 AM
Hey fellas

Has anyone had experience with both 70D and 7D magiclantern?
I'm planning on changing my 7D for a 70D mainly for smooth auto focusing with STM lenses.
Since ML is working really good with mine i wanted to know if at the moment there are any large drawbacks? photo or video.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: [email protected] on February 07, 2019, 11:50:01 AM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on December 28, 2018, 08:26:01 PM
AFAIK 50D is the only cam known for having troubles with temperature. Temperature will - of course - rise during record. You may be able to reduce internal heat-up by using external power source.

You will loose < 1 seconds in H.264 (native Canon MOV) all 29:59 minutes
There is no limitation but temperature and card space and battery capacity using ML raw/mlv. If you can handle bandwidth...
And you may use HDMI liveview without duration limit, too.

I have still problem with the 29:59 minutes issue, i have to restart the recording after ~30 minutes recording. Do I missunderstand something?

I have:
-Canon 70D 1.1.2
-ML 2018-12-24 19:47 installed, and working, as I understand
-SanDisk Ultra 128GB (up to 100 MB/s)
-SanDisk Extreme PRO 32GB (100 MB/s)

Br.
Patrik Sundin
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 08, 2019, 05:24:37 AM
If you want to stream for > 30 min you need an experimental build (lua_fix) and setting "Prefs tab -> PowerSave in LiveView -> 30-minute timer Disabled".
If you want to record in H.264 uninterrupted: No way, there will be a short break each 29:59. Setting "Movie tab -> Movie  Tweaks -> Movie Restart ON"
If you want to record RAW/MLV uninterrupted: Implemented in nightly builds.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: trailwalkerstudios on February 18, 2019, 08:42:16 PM
sorry if this has been answered, I've been searching and can't find it.

I want to get the latest version running and wanted to know what the file sizes are like with RAW video on the 70D?
What is the best SD card, bit rates, etc? I think I read it shoot All-I at 88 mbps... but with RAW and wanted to shoot weddings or events with it and needed to roll for over an hour sometimes, or more... what would I need.
most likely these _> SDXC- 2TB (exFAT)
https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-512GB-Extreme-UHS-I-SDSDXXY-512G-GN4IN/dp/B07H9VBM29/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
they just announced 1 & 2 TB cards coming too.
sorry if this has been answered, just need to get rolling.

THANKS!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 18, 2019, 09:35:32 PM
Without cutting edge overclocking tech (which might get your card killed randomly) 70D's useable write speed is about 40 MByte/s. Resulting in about 3.5 hours recording time for this card.
You might want to use a much smaller (and cheaper) card to get familiar with RAW on 70D and its limitations. Using nightly build you should get continuous recording in 720p24 with uncompressed 14 bit RAW. Experimental builds provide reduced bit depth (10 or 12) and compressing (up to about 50 percent). Doesn't fit into 1080p25 but closer.

If cutting edge gets approval for daily use (don't ask when ...) you may get write rates up to about 70 MByte/s thus reducing recording time to about 2 hours for given card. But please don't invest in such expensive cards without evaluating using a cheaper one. Recommending Sandisk Extreme Pro 95 MByte/s 32 or 64 GByte. Recommended site to check card speeds: www.cameramemoryspeed.com
Don't rely on in-camera measurements given there. They are not very precise. Better use numbers given by tests with cardreaders.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: trailwalkerstudios on February 19, 2019, 08:28:18 PM
well I already have a few 32 gig cards that are the extreme 45 MB/s so I'll give those a shot and see. Is there a guide though? Like 32 gigs at this setting equals x hours.

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 19, 2019, 08:47:16 PM
https://rawcalculator.netlify.com/calculator_desktop
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: domo94 on February 20, 2019, 08:01:51 PM
So I went to the BJs down the street from me because I had a theory of the APS-C sized sensors and their mounting sizes.

the 70d and 7d both share very very similar dimensions so I was hoping that the anti-aliasing filter for the 7d would fit the 70d.

I took it with me, popped it on, and viola! It fit just fine!

I didn't get to put a lens on it, but because the camera is slightly smaller, I think it may even fit a bit more snug than the 7d possibly.

So if you get a VAG filter for the Canon 7D at the Mosaic engineering website, it'll fit the 70d.

Now I'm curious to see how well the 70d works in normal day to day use for 10bit continuous raw shooting.
I need a better low light camera and I want to stick with magic lantern. I just DON'T LIKE SONY.

Please somebody convince me that the 70d is working fine?

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: rrosen1 on February 22, 2019, 04:00:08 PM
I just had my 60D serviced and they changed the camera software from 1.1.1 to 1.1.2.  I tried the latest 70D build for 1.1.2 and it wouldn't format. I guess I have to buy an external intervalometer for the 60D?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 22, 2019, 04:06:59 PM
Sorry, what are you talking about? 60D -> offtopic. 70D? -> What does "format" has to do with it?

Maybe you should read the short installation instructions: Top of page -> Downloads -> Download nightly builds -> Pic your cam -> Installation.
If it doesn't help: Read Top of page -> User Guide -> FAQ and Install Guide
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: trailwalkerstudios on February 26, 2019, 04:36:44 AM
kind of a noob question. but have followed all the directions and confused on the install.
I low-level formatted the card.
I updated to 1.1.2 firmware. Then when I go to select ML-SETUP.FIR it says update firmware 1.1.2 -> 1.0.2
is that just the version of the ML firmware? Is this normal? Ok to install that?
It's the experimental build because I want to the test raw video. Really want 30+ clips so I can get certain jobs again.
Don't want to brick my camera.
Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on February 26, 2019, 02:15:34 PM
Luke Trailwalker, you really want the fastest card at 95 MB/s (Sandisk Ex. Pro.), even to test raw video.  Your resolution is limitted with slower cards.  I dont tend to shoot raw, but my last go was MLV 10bit raw, 1920 at 2:39 aspect. That was continuous, but did not run more than 5min.  Heat occurs with raw video, so even if data transfer rate is supported you really have to watch the heat.  Low ISO a must (400 max).  I found H264 All-I was best with high ISO up to 1600, after which it starts to become dicey.  The other thing which can help low light is a decent denoiser software for post, the Mosaic filter really removes moire but to get cleaner image in low light its the noise you have to remove (my main beef with the 80D is that its 60fps video is IPB is even noisier than All-I in lowee light, so I did not see big benefit with 80D).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: trailwalkerstudios on February 26, 2019, 07:33:17 PM
got it, but I usually shoot at 720p at 24 fps and need to get beyond the 30 minute cap.

also need to know about the question I posted up there about the firmware when installing magic lantern after the 1.1.2 update...
anybody?
is that what's supposed to happen? it doesn't say much in the instructions outlining the dialogs.

"I updated to 1.1.2 firmware. Then when I go to select ML-SETUP.FIR it says update firmware 1.1.2 -> 1.0.2
is that just the version of the ML firmware? Is this normal? Ok to install that?"
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: trailwalkerstudios on March 02, 2019, 06:52:58 PM
anybody? I don' want to install it yet until I get a nod. I've researched and it doesn't say anything about that...
Title: Canon 70D
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 02, 2019, 08:49:47 PM
Works fine for me on 1.1.2 and please do not hesitate to install @trailwalkerstudios!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: trailwalkerstudios on March 02, 2019, 09:03:03 PM
ok but you get this ?
select ML-SETUP.FIR it says update firmware 1.1.2 -> 1.0.2
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on March 02, 2019, 10:10:55 PM
Video of what you are doing, please.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 03, 2019, 12:24:55 AM
And a view on card's root directory ...
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: trailwalkerstudios on March 03, 2019, 07:43:21 PM
here you go

(https://i.ibb.co/c2Zrd5s/70d-sd-files.png) (https://ibb.co/c2Zrd5s)
(https://i.ibb.co/jgqcbqq/IMG-20190303-102320.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jgqcbqq)
(https://i.ibb.co/4f9n7Fp/IMG-20190303-102327.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4f9n7Fp)
(https://i.ibb.co/pJK1pd1/IMG-20190303-102348.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pJK1pd1)
(https://i.ibb.co/KxKWZRg/IMG-20190303-102333.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KxKWZRg)
(https://i.ibb.co/JtCSnKq/IMG-20190303-102356.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JtCSnKq)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on March 03, 2019, 08:24:37 PM
Does it behave same if you:
1. Remove the 70D0012.FIR from the card and try again?
2. Remove all from the card and try an older build, e.g. https://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/job/70D.112/10/artifact/platform/70D.112/magiclantern-Nightly.2018Feb03.70D112.zip ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: trailwalkerstudios on March 03, 2019, 08:58:38 PM
have to try that. so nobody else sees this behavior after updating to 1.1.2 on the 70D with the latest experimental build?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 08, 2019, 09:16:58 PM
Hello fellow 70D users! Just thought since the last breakthrough that @ArcziPL made with lossless recording, it might be the right time to pick up on pixel binning patterns and higher frame rates on the 70D again. Post 3194 and 3206 explain my register changes to achieve 50fps footage in 3x3 binning that doesnt need post production stretching, from a custom build @dfort provided me with. I am just bringing this up so maybe someone with more intimate knowledge of 70D specific registers and the crop_rec branch can take the lead from there and make something useful out of it. Awesome find on the lossless comp!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on March 08, 2019, 09:35:45 PM
Quote from: David_Hugh on March 08, 2019, 09:16:58 PM
Hello fellow 70D users! Just thought since the last breakthrough that @ArcziPL made with lossless recording, it might be the right time to pick up on pixel binning patterns and higher frame rates on the 70D again. Post 3194 and 3206 explain my register changes to achieve 50fps footage in 3x3 binning that doesnt need post production stretching, from a custom build @dfort provided me with. I am just bringing this up so maybe someone with more intimate knowledge of 70D specific registers and the crop_rec branch can take the lead from there and make something useful out of it. Awesome find on the lossless comp!
Great, thanks for the hint! I am definitely not fitting to this description :) but maybe able to try it out a bit. My goal was the lossless compressor but as it went much faster than initially expected, I'll have some time to touch other topics as well. I generally thought about
- RAW zebras in LV/photo preview
- FPS override -> but as nikfreak (IIRC) already spent dozens of hours without success it rather won't be my first choice
- crop_rec presets; Dannes work on M is marvellous and inspiring. Would be nice to reproduce at least some of them here. I'd personally like >=45fps @ ~1080p 16:9 and 1x3 binning mode without moire. And of course the holy grail 3x3 real binning (no skipping) which was not achieved so far at all. :)

If anyone can give any hints about any of the topic to boost it I'll appreciate. So far I was checking how crop_rec is done for 5D3 and this seems to be quite understandable how the module works but I'm again shocked how the hell all of this can be found out by reverse engineering. :)

The other two topics stayed untouched so far.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Danne on March 08, 2019, 10:59:44 PM
We should get 70D into crop_rec.c. Is there any build with crop_rec.c for 70D out there? The regs for different presets should work similarly to other digic V cameras so adtg_gui and even some tweaking directly in crop_rec.c should be possible. Is power timing regs working also for 70D? Needs to be tested. All in time, occupied over here.
Nikfreak, listening :)?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: David_Hugh on March 09, 2019, 10:56:57 AM
Quote from: dfort on March 14, 2018, 12:49:16 AM
Excellent! Let's give this a try:

    else if (is_camera("70D", "1.1.2"))
    {
        CMOS_WRITE = 0x26B54;
        MEM_CMOS_WRITE = 0xE92D41F0;
       
        ADTG_WRITE = 0x2684C;
        MEM_ADTG_WRITE = 0xE92D47F0;


Put up a test build on my downloads page (https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/downloads/). The way to test this is to first turn on only the crop_rec module. Put your camera in 1280x720/50 or 60 (depending if you're set up for PAL or NTSC) and try recording some H.264 video. The LiveView will probably look stretched vertically.

We know that mlv_lite isn't working yet because we need to figure out the lossless recording but maybe mlv_rec will work? You should be able to record video using 3x3 sampling at 60fps. Well, the card will limit how large of an image you can continuously record at that speed but it does give you another option to play with.


@Danne Yes - I believe this build, along with the register changes I described in post 3194 results in a proper crop_rec file. It ONLY works however when it's on the PAL setting, as I also described, 60fps is just too much. I am going through my notes, sorry I can only point to past achievments but it's been almost a year since I played with that stuff.

VERY important note: I could also lower the fps from 50 to around 21fps with this build, but I needed to change TWO, not one register:

c0f0 6014
c0f0 6024

Unfortuntaley I never got behind a way to increase the resolution past the 1824x626 I started with, because I could not manage to find the right registers to change resolution. I remember the cam was very sensitive to the order/way in which the registers were changed - fps changes were stable but every time I tried something else it kept locking up.

Here is what @nikfreak had to say about all this

Quote from: nikfreak on September 21, 2018, 10:47:20 AM
Hey Dave,

fps override was always problematic for me. TimerA always worked to modify but Timer b was causing problems and disco-like effects on the LCD. Now that you found out that 70D needs two registers for Timer B namely


  • c0f06014
  • c0f06024

you need to update fps-engio.c to get it working. Just out of my head:

#define FPS_REGISTER_A 0xC0F06008
#define FPS_REGISTER_B 0xC0F06014
#define FPS_REGISTER_B_DUALPIXEL 0xC0F06024

Afterwards "grep" fps-engio.c for all register_b related code and modify it to work for 70D by defining code for it. I would suggest you make a request at bitbucket if you can't handle it yourself but you need that additional register 0xC0F06024 for 70D from what I understand

As always, hope this is helpful.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Danne on March 09, 2019, 11:45:35 AM
Two regs? Opening up a can of worms  :P.
Let's see if we can get a branch going and then I can provide basic guidance building presets.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on March 09, 2019, 12:45:49 PM
DPAF is stubborn. I guess it has something to do with https://twitter.com/autoexec_bin/status/1038866055278538753
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on March 09, 2019, 04:51:42 PM
i got face tracking working in selfie mode
Quote from: dfort on March 09, 2019, 07:12:12 AM
with ML loaded the screen doesn't switch to mirror display when in "selfie mode."
thanks dfort

(https://i.ibb.co/FKnQCrb/auto-mirroring.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FKnQCrb)

auto mirroring is set to dont allow by default. it needs to b changed to allow and wala
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dfort on March 09, 2019, 05:19:33 PM
Quote from: andy kh on March 09, 2019, 04:51:42 PM
auto mirroring is set to dont allow by default. it needs to b changed to allow and wala

Great. Tried it on the 700D and it behaves the same.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7925/47328575211_851204beb7.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2f7gjvr)

This is what the ML menus look like with Auto Mirroring turned on and the screen flipped out to "selfie" mode. Canon menus don't flip with or without ML loaded.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7861/46605472424_be6b66b80b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e1nef1)

I searched the user manual to see if there is a Canon setting to turn this on or off but the only reference to this feature that I could find says:

Quote

  • During Live View shooting or movie shooting, facing the LCD monitor toward the subject will display a mirror image on the screen.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on March 09, 2019, 06:15:23 PM
Quote from: dfort on March 09, 2019, 05:19:33 PM

This is what the ML menus look like with Auto Mirroring turned on and the screen flipped out to "selfie" mode. Canon menus don't flip with or without ML loaded.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7861/46605472424_be6b66b80b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e1nef1)

it is the same with mine but face tracking in selfie mode is working flawless now after turning on the auto mirroring and urning off the small hack
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: theBilalFakhouri on March 09, 2019, 06:50:18 PM
Same thing here with my 700D in selfie mode, @dfort So is disabling Auto Mirroring in ML helps?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dfort on March 10, 2019, 01:16:33 AM
Quote from: theBilalFakhouri on March 09, 2019, 06:50:18 PM
So is disabling Auto Mirroring in ML helps?

If you want to use face tracking it looks like Auto Mirroring needs to be enabled. Does disabling Auto Mirroring in ML help? Depends. Do you like taking a selfie where left is right and right is left or are you are like Leonardo da Vinci and have a preference for mirror writing?

Seriously though, it is good that ML gives you a choice because apparently Canon doesn't.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on March 14, 2019, 01:38:51 PM
Hi, with the actual adtg_gui.mo from https://builds.magiclantern.fm/modules.html "Latest Build (2018-11-11 14:24)" the cam can't enter LV nor video mode if adtg_gui is enabled with "ENGIO registers" = ON. The screen remains black, only battery pull helps.


As a result, I can't do this:

Quote from: a1ex on September 11, 2018, 09:40:45 AM
6008 is set only once when entering LiveView, so you should do that with adtg_gui enabled in order to see it. Going to PLAY mode and back, or pressing MENU twice, will do the trick. This register is interesting only if you want to increase horizontal resolution (and you can only do that in 1:1 crop modes).

Any idea? Are older builds available? Unfortunately, I don't see them on builds.magiclantern.fm nor at dforts Bitbucket download page anymore.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 14, 2019, 02:00:20 PM
QuoteThese modules can be loaded on top of the experimental crop_rec_4k build.
Try experimental lua_fix build for 70D instead.

Older semi-nightlies are here: https://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/job/70D.112/ but I don't think you will have any luck with this module using them.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dfort on March 14, 2019, 08:20:30 PM
That reminds me, I should cleanup my downloads page (https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/downloads/) and take out the test builds that didn't work. Looks like I already did that for the 70D.

There was a recent update (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/91593cabf6c9a97541b7f7de5f633b21ff75ad83) to get lossless compression working on the 70D. However, it was done on the crop_rec_4k branch and as reported by @David_Hugh on Reply #320 (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg205839#msg205839) that branch won't compile on some cameras including the 70D.

Until that's resolved your best best is lua_fix like Walter suggested.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on March 14, 2019, 09:31:42 PM
Quote from: dfort on March 14, 2019, 08:20:30 PMThere was a recent update (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/91593cabf6c9a97541b7f7de5f633b21ff75ad83) to get lossless compression working on the 70D. However, it was done on the crop_rec_4k branch and as reported by @David_Hugh on Reply #320 (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg205839#msg205839) that branch won't compile on some cameras including the 70D.
Yep, I chose crop_rec_4k, as I believed the change would (could?) be propagated to *_mlv_snd and *_mlv_lite_snd but apparently I was wrong. It rather works only the other way round. (?)

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dfort on March 15, 2019, 12:17:57 AM
Yeah, I'm not sure exactly how to bring in just your change without fiddling around with the merge and possibly messing things up. I made a new branch from crop_rec_4k_mlv_snd and did this on my fork:

hg revert -r 20452 lossless.c

But that put my name on your changes which I don't want to do. I think you need to make a branch from before crop_rec_4k_mlv_snd and crop_rec_4k_mlv_lite_snd were branched off of crop_rec_4k and make your changes there.

In any case, back the issue at hand. Simply copy lossless.c from crop_rec_4k into the other branches, compile, add the adtg_gui module from the modules download page (https://builds.magiclantern.fm/modules.html) and that should give you what you're looking for.

I just tried it and posted it on my downloads page  (https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/downloads/)but I don't have a 70D to try it out.

Are you looking into getting crop_rec working? That would be great.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on March 15, 2019, 06:10:04 AM
Quote from: ArcziPL on March 14, 2019, 09:31:42 PM
Yep, I chose crop_rec_4k, as I believed the change would (could?) be propagated to *_mlv_snd and *_mlv_lite_snd

That's correct. Only audio changes should go directly into *_mlv_snd and *_mlv_lite_snd, if you ask me. Other crop_rec changes should go in crop_rec_4k and synced with *_mlv_snd and *_mlv_lite_snd by merging. That would allow me to review the audio changes separate for the other stuff.

Quotebut apparently I was wrong. It rather works only the other way round. (?)

Sorry, changes not following this (i.e. after 3e4294d) are not mine...

Yes, I need to figure out how to fix 700D and EOS M (or back out these changes - 046e388, 58d6735, 1d493af, d556a10 - and rework all my local updates without them).

Quote from: dfort on March 14, 2019, 08:20:30 PM
However, it was done on the crop_rec_4k branch and as reported by @David_Hugh on Reply #320 (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg205839#msg205839) that branch won't compile on some cameras including the 70D.

Yes, 32ac2f1 should have been done in crop_rec_4k. Then, 70D also needs FRAME_SHUTTER_BLANKING_READ (i.e. the memory address of the shutter blanking register, as printed in adtg_gui). On some models, this address is a moving target, though, so we need to find another way to retrieve it.

Or, we could abandon the recent shutter speed refactoring (i.e. revert 046e388, 58d6735, 1d493af, d556a10 and keep shutter speeds broken on most cameras). I need these changes set to make sure the dialed shutter speed also matches what you get after using various crop_rec presets (otherwise you end up with all sorts of weird values, just not what you dialed). That's because shutter speeds are affected by FPS timers, which we override in crop_rec. My further local changes on crop_rec_4k depend on this refactoring, and I don't want to commit them in a non-working state.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ptec on March 24, 2019, 12:34:46 PM
Just want to let you know what issues I have if not known already:

Autofocus (Face Recognition) does not work. If I move my head to the left, the autofocus field moves to the right and vis versa. Strange phenomen (35mm 1.4).
NO ML -> Works fine.

I cant use Eos Utility to monitor liveview or push the shutter. Says "busy" all the time.
When I skipp ML on Startup it works fine.

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on March 25, 2019, 01:05:48 PM
@ptec
See my reply #3280
Also turn off small hacks
Enjoyyy
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: rrosen1 on March 28, 2019, 09:34:39 PM
I actually have a 60d version 1.1.2.  The download for the 60d is 1.1.1.  I checked with Canon and they told me version 1.1.2 has been in use for at least 3 years.  I got my camera serviced by Canon in February.  I am sure at that time I had version 1.1.1 and I am sure the updated the software to 1.1.2.  I have tried the 70D version 1.1.2 but it never gets to the install. Do you know of any solutions?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 28, 2019, 09:38:41 PM
Duplicate question, offtopic, already answered.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 16, 2019, 02:50:01 PM
Quote from: andy kh on May 16, 2019, 07:13:48 AM
i dont think you can shoot 60fps in 5X mode. no matter whatever your setting is in canon menu when u zoom in 5X it will change to 30fps

Probably right, my 60s test was around 1700+ frames.  That suggests 30p. But in ML it prior to start fps override shows 59.9p.  I get there by selecting 1280 60p, from Q menu, adjust resolution. 

Another thing I recall from my days of using 5X, was that its only 5X on the LCD, but the actual frame is 3X.  Hence the framing mismatch comment.  5X is like a magic zoom for the LCD.   

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on May 16, 2019, 10:27:44 PM
Didn't realize that you got your 70D alive gain @OlRivrRat. Nice!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 17, 2019, 07:15:08 AM
                     @ NikFreak

           Yup ~ Twas about a month ago it arrived back from Canon Repair, having been sent to Them hoping to get it

Revived under the Err70 Recall. Now has a New Mo'Board & is LikeNew & Best Of All > Twas Free ~

                                                                                ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 18, 2019, 11:43:51 PM
      @TWeIMC

   Just checked 70D & it appears as though Split Screen Focussing Within Magic Zoom is Not available on 70D ~

                                    ORR ~ DeanB

       Someone on 5D2 Thread mentioned that they had seen a Y'T' Vid showing that it was & I meant to post this

there but posted here by mistake ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on May 23, 2019, 06:56:26 AM
got a 5d mark III yesterday. i may soon say goodbye to my 70D
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Ingerson on July 07, 2019, 12:27:19 PM
Hey guys, long time on and off lurker here looking to finally get back into ML and raw after like 8 years ago.

First off: I've read all post a year back, but I'm not a techie and this is all a bit difficult for me to comprehend.

Trying to decide between a 70D and an EOS-M. Found amazing info about the M since there seems to have a very dedicated following who are really pushing the limits. But not so much love for the 70D.

Obvious differences are of course form factor, articulating screen and DPAF, but how "stable" is ML on the 70D compared to M? From what I've read displaying crop mode is a bit wonky compared to mcm rewire on the M.

I already have a couple of EF(s) lenses from my old camera, so the more expensive 70D would be the same as the M + new lenses and adapters. I'm not a slow motion guy, 30 for 24 fps for slight over cranking is all. But I do longer takes (5-10 min) and like to move the camera and getting more into dynamic blocking and would like DPAF since it's usually myself and manual focus is just one thing to many.

I guess what I like to know are the top 5 reasons to go with the 70D and the top 5 things you wish you knew before buying the camera.

All the best!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on July 10, 2019, 06:53:12 PM
5 Reasons to use a 70D
- DPAF tracking is required, fast moving objects that you want to track in mostly centre of screen.
- pull focus off the screen, natural speed
- Use the LCD not the viewfinder for menu & touch focus
- Great stills camera and you already have quality Canon mount glass

Video
Well here's where things get really interesting
Its H264 All-I is good to ISO 1600 but the 80D has a better sensor for DR
Lots of free picture profiles for 70D, some even shoot flaat, all good for H264
Anti-aliasing at 3X, with MF (mostly).  This mode requires noise reduction and grading in post (IMHE). 
MLRAW video : APS-C so its 1.6X compared to FF, you may have some quality DSLR glass
- you can shoot 14bit ML raw FHD with MF
- you can shoot 12/10 bit raw most resolutions up to 2.5k at 2:39 24fps, but its MF
- Max AF resolution is around 90% of FHD, 2:39 at 24fps (10/12/14 bit). So with AF you would always need to up-res. for FHD.
- Any resolutions higher than about 90% of FHD, with LCD live-view tracking is zoomed, it shows 3X on LCD, of a 5X frame captured.  So its not the ideal FHD to 2.5k live-view. 
- 720p raw works 24/30 fps 10-14bit, with many ML goodies.
- 60p is only 720p, H264.

Sorry I dont know the M-series, so compare against this general profile.






Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Ingerson on July 18, 2019, 03:36:32 PM
thanks ShootMeAlready! I got an M, but don't really like the ergonomics, miss my 1000D I have for stills, haha. Gonna see if I can find a good deal on a 70D :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on July 18, 2019, 07:30:51 PM
Im a 70d owner and i would highly suggest you not to buy 70D if you already own a M.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Ingerson on July 19, 2019, 05:32:05 PM
Quote from: andy kh on July 18, 2019, 07:30:51 PM
Im a 70d owner and i would highly suggest you not to buy 70D if you already own a M.

care to elaborate? I got a cheap M, but miss the DSLR form factor and would like better AF since I'm a single shooter coming from street photography.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on July 21, 2019, 06:44:01 AM
Quote from: Ingerson on July 19, 2019, 05:32:05 PM
care to elaborate? I got a cheap M, but miss the DSLR form factor and would like better AF since I'm a single shooter coming from street photography.

af is really good. i also bought one because of this feature. there are some ML features missing in this camera. i dont kno if those missing features are important to you or not  and i get some terrible moire and aliasing. i am not sure if its because of the lens i use which is tamron 17-50mm f2.8 non VC
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Ingerson on July 21, 2019, 04:13:36 PM
Quote from: andy kh on July 21, 2019, 06:44:01 AM
af is really good. i also bought one because of this feature. there are some ML features missing in this camera. i dont kno if those missing features are important to you or not  and i get some terrible moire and aliasing. i am not sure if its because of the lens i use which is tamron 17-50mm f2.8 non VC

What features is that? I don't really care about slowmotion, sometimes I do 30 to 25 fps for a subtle effects, but that's it. And I don't go for crop modes or higher resolution. Besides AF and swivel screen all I want is continuous recording for a few minutes since I like longer takes.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: mvrck on July 22, 2019, 03:33:24 PM
Quote from: Ingerson on July 21, 2019, 04:13:36 PM
What features is that? I don't really care about slowmotion, sometimes I do 30 to 25 fps for a subtle effects, but that's it. And I don't go for crop modes or higher resolution. Besides AF and swivel screen all I want is continuous recording for a few minutes since I like longer takes.

You can actually shoot 50/60 FPS with the 70D at 1832x616 and then stretch it in post. Here's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lX4Nb-RDIY) a clip I shot at 50 FPS and slowed it down to 25 FPS. I think it looks pretty good aliasing-wise.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on July 22, 2019, 07:23:38 PM
I was astounded how good 16:9 FHD 12 bit raw @24fps looked. But its MF, I recall it was continuous, fills up the LCD screen nicely.
The raw video, of 70D is good for still camera (not moving) shots.  You might get away with a slow pan.
But you would want the AF resolutions for "subject walking" or "tracking a fast moving object centre of screen" (Ive seen some really good footage with a monopod).
Raw video with 70D max out at IS0 400, as hot pixels start to appear for higher ISO.
So you might use a flat profile, and shoot H264 at ISO1600 All-I for low light video.  Its surprising how good shooting flat, can be with H264 in low light.
I find the raw is better for highlight recovery, which is stronger in well lit shots, where as shooting flat with H264 All-I has a nice inky black which is useful.
I like the free Marvel picture profiles.  Otherwise there is always the choice to add lighting.

If you like this, then I would get the VAF, to minimize aliasing. 

I also find a bit of noise reduction really helps with aps-c footage, as its not all moire/aliasing that's afoot. 
A FF sensor tends to handle noise better especially low light.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Joshua_Fisher on September 02, 2019, 08:32:28 PM
Hello!

New guy here and my question is a bit specific. I tried researching it on google and here on these forums to no avail, so, my apologies if its been asked and answered already.

I'm looking to use one of my Canon 70Ds as a web cam to live stream on twitch. Originally, I was using software called SparkoCam which uses the 70Ds USB port. It seems to work decently but the quality is far lower than the HDMI. The issue with HDMI was it showed all overlay options during liveview.

Note, I am NOT recording, simply using liveview for a webcam.

Enter ML. I installed it and was able to remove the overlay and got the resolution somewhat stretched using ML but there are still black bars on either side when displaying on a 1920x1080p canvas in OBS studio.
Is there any way to get liveview to display in full 1920x1080p using ML, or do I have to manually stretch the image using OBS to get it to fill the screen entirely? I've been dabbling in video lately and have been a photography buff pretty much my whole life but I am a complete nub to ML and the advanced video settings.

Thanks in advance!
Josh

PS, my apologies if this is not the right section, again, new here!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: L4C on October 09, 2019, 09:56:23 PM
Hello,

I have used the magic lantern before in my previous camera. Now I'm new on the EOS 70D and trying to figure out how to get the ETTR to work on it. I would like to use "trigger mode: press SET" and somehow does not work. If I press the SET button on live view the center AF point gets selected and the ETTR does not triggered. I have checked in the Canon menu (C.Fn III) the set button is set to OFF.
Is there any way to use the set button (or any other button) to trigger ETTR in live view?
If I use the camera with the viewfinder the set button turns on the live view but every time I get a message: 'ETTR failed'
Unfortunately find no way to use the ETTR with my camera....
I have tried to factory reset my camera and the magic lantern too.
Can someone please give me a guidance?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 21, 2019, 02:54:57 PM
Firmware update 1.1.3. https://www.canon.co.uk/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos_70d.html?type=firmware
If you install it I think you will have to ask Canon Service if you want to rollback to older versions. Fixes vulnerabilities as seen in PTP remote code execution.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 24, 2019, 06:28:05 PM
Certainly seems odd that Canon would come up with a FirmUp for a Cam that is so far in the rear view mirror ~

Would it be correct to assume that this would most likely "Break" ML ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 24, 2019, 10:38:42 PM
Define "break".
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 25, 2019, 01:22:52 AM
How about > Render Unusable ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 25, 2019, 01:29:37 AM
Nope, according to a1ex.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on November 25, 2019, 08:20:39 AM
Long answer:

- ML will not start with the newer firmware; it will display an error message
- rendering the camera unusable: very unlikely, unless the update itself fails in the middle or something
- you may not be able to downgrade the firmware (not even via Canon's EOS utility, if it's like 5D3 1.3.6)

That said, if (and only if) you don't mind having your 70D without ML for some time (at least one week, but could be one month or more), you may upgrade the firmware to see what happens. I'd welcome a ROM dump in order to prepare a firmware downgrading tool (assuming one is needed).

I don't expect the update to remove our ability to run user code, or to disable the boot flag, which is probably what Walter was referring to.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on November 26, 2019, 05:18:45 PM
   The only Times that I use the 70D anymore is when I need a Cam' with ML Abilities so I suspect being without it

for a Short Time would not be a major issue as long as it appears that a Solution could be forthcoming. If I conjure

up the Nerve to do the FirmUp, I'll only be doing it for ML Test purposes & will then also attempt to acquire & provide

a ROM Dump ~ RSVP Alex ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on November 26, 2019, 05:31:11 PM
It's your decision. I expect to have some more spare time after mid-December (until then, only weekends), so if you prefer a shorter downtime, you may choose to wait.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: L4C on November 28, 2019, 11:01:31 AM
Quote from: L4C on October 09, 2019, 09:56:23 PM
Hello,

I have used the magic lantern before in my previous camera. Now I'm new on the EOS 70D and trying to figure out how to get the ETTR to work on it. I would like to use "trigger mode: press SET" and somehow does not work. If I press the SET button on live view the center AF point gets selected and the ETTR does not triggered. I have checked in the Canon menu (C.Fn III) the set button is set to OFF.
Is there any way to use the set button (or any other button) to trigger ETTR in live view?
If I use the camera with the viewfinder the set button turns on the live view but every time I get a message: 'ETTR failed'
Unfortunately find no way to use the ETTR with my camera....
I have tried to factory reset my camera and the magic lantern too.
Can someone please give me a guidance?


I did more experimenting with the ETTR. Only works if the camera makes a real photo (Always ON or Auto Snap) in those modes the next photo will apply the proper settings.
Unfortunately triggering by the set button or using the half double click all the time gives ETTR failed message, plus addition on that in live view mode to trigger with set button does not work at all as the set button will select the focus point and does not trigger the ETTR.
Is there some way how I can contribute to you guys to figure out the root cause of the issue?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dumpil on November 30, 2019, 12:11:46 PM
Hello everyone! Im new here.
Just wanted to ask a quick question: very smart me recently updated firmware to 1.1.3. - is magic lantern lantern going to be further updated to be able to work on it?

ps. sorry if I missed something - not a native speaker
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on December 09, 2019, 04:13:54 PM
                   @ Dumpil

        Read Alexs Reply #3415 ~ just 5 posts back ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on December 09, 2019, 04:27:14 PM
Foreseeable future: No ML for 1.1.3
You already tried to downgrade to previous Firmware via EOS Utility? I think it may not be possible but nobody confirmed it yet.
We know CPS can downgrade 5D3s and if you need ML now it's the only option you have.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on December 10, 2019, 05:13:34 AM
             @Dunpil

       Since You have already taken the plunge to 1.1.3 You should attempt to Grab the ROM Dump

that Alex has requested so as to see if there is anything He can resolve from it ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on December 10, 2019, 10:08:08 PM
Yes, please try the portable ROM dumper (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16534.0). You should be able to replace autoexec.bin on some older ML card; if that doesn't work, you will have to make the card bootable (EosCard/MacBoot/make_bootable.sh).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: IreuN on December 20, 2019, 03:15:30 PM
Quote from: a1ex on December 10, 2019, 10:08:08 PM
Yes, please try the portable ROM dumper (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16534.0). You should be able to replace autoexec.bin on some older ML card; if that doesn't work, you will have to make the card bootable (EosCard/MacBoot/make_bootable.sh).

Hello Alex! I don't think I get it. There is no developer that has 70D to try that out? I own 70D, and doesn't use ML that often, so I could sacrifice not having ML for 'noone knows how long'. Though.. How likely is it, that It won't be supported at all?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on December 21, 2019, 01:15:46 AM
                 @Alex

       Have You acquired a Rom Dump for the 113 FirmedUp 70D from anyone yet or

is it looking like it is going to be up to Me ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on December 21, 2019, 07:36:45 AM
No, I did not. There was a private request from another user (besides the one from here), but there was no reply after asking them to run the portable ROM dumper.

QuoteThere is no developer that has 70D to try that out?

Apparently there is no active developer that has 70D, otherwise they would have tried it :D

I can test some things in QEMU, but most of the "interesting" stuff (LiveView, image capture, Wi-Fi) are not working there.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Grizraz on December 22, 2019, 12:56:09 PM
Is focus bracketing available for the 70D?
Lost my camera body (650D) to a bad fall and looking to replace with 70D. Focus bracketing was used often.
Dual ISO, Motion Detect and bulb times were other frequently used settings that were avail on the 650D build.
If not, I may consider another body that Magic Lantern has added these features to the build.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on December 22, 2019, 04:48:38 PM
" Apparently there is no active developer that has 70D, otherwise they would have tried it "

   It certainly does appear that ML interest in the 70D has waned dramatically, which is

why I was pleasantly surprised when You posted that You would Give It A Look ~

   If You can't get a RomDump from some User that has already FirmedUp their 70D by

end of week / after Christmas, I guess I'll take the dive ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: vredo on January 30, 2020, 09:19:04 PM
Hello,

i've installed the Nightly from 2018 Dec 24. I have a problem with the overlay. When I go through the canon overlays with the "Info" button the magic lantern overlay doesn't appear.

My settings for the overlay:

Global draw: ON, all modes
Zebras: LumaFast, over 99%
Focus Peak: ON, 0,5, local
Magic Zoom: (+), Med, TL, 2:1

I have restored the ML defaults a few times and i also installed Magic Lantern again. Same problem.

What's wrong ?

Thank you
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: [email protected] on February 19, 2020, 06:56:45 PM
Greetings .... I'm 'new' to magic lantern, though I've been reading the forums on and off for a couple of years ... The following account *may* be of help to some who are starting out ...

Naturally I was fearful, worrying about possible camera damage. Trying to figure out *which version* of M/L to load was a nightmare and I pondered this for a long time. Would it be the December 24th, 2018 nightly build? That *seems* rather dated now. Then again, would I risk a more recent 'experimental' build? Decisions, decisions. Well, I finally chose the experimental version of March 24th 2019. Why? Simply because it offered the ability to record in 10, 12 or 14 bit RAW - straight from the 70D's sensor. Now I must say, I'm NOT an overly 'techy' sort of guy. I'm 'visual', and I prefer to keep things 'simple'.....

So, I got to thinking that this 'cropped' (3x or 5x - whatever) was toooo much of an inconvenience. I just wanted 'simple'. Soon I realized that the largest video 'frame' size M/L would allow me to capture (without the 3x), was 1832 x 776 pixels. That's based on a 2.35 to 1 aspect ratio. So not quite full HD width. But I'd read that you still get great results after up-scaling, so I continued in hope. Well, really the rest is history. At the end if the day, all I was after was a *film look* from the 70D - with it's amazing focus system. Based on this goal, here's how I proceded:

■ Normally, (without M/L), I'd go with 24 fps (like 'real' film), using a fixed aperture of 1/50th of a second (roughly 'twice' the frame rate).
■ Also I find that an ISO setting of 640 - is as high as I can get away with, without introducing too much visual noise. It also happens to be an *ideal ISO* for shooting indoors. In a room with bright natural or artificial light, you get a perfect exposure at f:2.8. Neat.
■ I followed M/L instructions, loading the (3 files) onto a fast SD card, (which I'd formatted first). I used a Samsung EVO 64GB SD card, 60MB/sec write speed.
■ As mentioned, I went with the March 24th, 2019 M/L 'experimental' build. I chose to record at 10 bit, which (I thought) was enough of a quality boost without stressing my camera too much. A more demanding 12 bit capture would mean reducing my frame resolution.
■ 10 bit recordings would give me 1832 x 776 resolution, (set for 2.35:1 aspect ratio), resulting in 40.6 Megabytes of data being sent to the SD card each second. This is the bottleneck of the 70D, since it's limit is 40MB/s throughput to the memory card. 40.6 MB/sec is *just over* the limit, and a test yielded just under 4 minutes before the camera stopped recording. (the M/L 'display' showed that the camera's internal temperature had risen from 26° to 32° during recording). 4 minutes would be ample for most shots, and *if* a longer duration was needed, the frame resolution could be lowered. Reducing to a 1792 x 762 resolution gives unlimited recording time, (the on-screen counter being 'green' this time, rather than amber). I only went to 7 minutes - way long enough, (this time the temperature rose from 31° to 41°). This is to be expected - the internals are working harder than usual.
■ After recording, I removed the SD card but FIRST WAITING 5 seconds AFTER opening the SD card DOOR. The card is then slotted into a PC.
■ Using the free program called "MLV App" (a 'RAW to Video' converter from Magic Lantern), just go to 'File' > 'Import MLV' & navigate to (open) your file.
■ In "MLV App"s right-side pane, select 'Fix Bad Pixels' > ON (This does *wonders* for hiding those bright 'hot' pixels).
■ Under 'Debayer Algothithm' I went with 'AMaZE' (which is the default and to me gave the best result).
■ To sharpen or not to sharpen. *Maybe* to just '20' - a tiny boost, to get a little more 'percieved' resolution. But with a sharp lens, I'd leave this at '0'.
■ Set RBF Denoise Chroma to desired level. Around the 40 to 60 range worked best for me.
Bear in mind, this run-down is for a 'basic approach' to quickly get your RAW files into a standard (editable) video file. By default this will output your video as 'REC 709'. You *could* do extra fine tuning with MLV's built-in 'level' and 'color' controls (or do that later in your NLE). You could also choose a 'log' profile for better grading control. You could even output as 'Digital Negatives' (DNG's) for maximum control in software like 'DaVinci Resolve'. But for now - back to basics.
■ EXPORT: Click the "Cogs" icon at the top, choose 'Codec' > 'Uncompressed AVI' and 'V210 10bit' (or ProRes 4444 for smaller file sizes).
■ RESIZE: I entered 3664 x 1552 - exacly twice my recorded resolution. I wanted the best I could get straight out of the gate. But you leave this unselected if you're happy with the camera's recorded resolution.
■ I used 'Smooth aliasing' 3 pass. It does a fantstic job smoothing jaggy edges and reducing the high ISO noise. (Long render times though, and if you don't want (nice) Motion Blur at this stage then DON'T select it).
■ Click the folder Icon left of the 'Cogs icon', enter a File Name & Location and hit SAVE. That's it! - Editable files processed from the RAW data. Now it's onto the editing and color grading.

Uncompressed files are large, so I convert them to an intermediate codec inside Vegas, which reduces them to about 1/3 their size. A more economical approach would be to scale them to 1080p directly from inside the *MLV App* if that's the desired delivery resolution. I'm still experimenting, here's some comparisons (all set for 2.35:1),

10 bit recordings:
1832 x 776 (largest FF) = 40.6MB/sec of data (Amber display - buffer's fed 0.6MB/sec above what it can write to the card)  test = 3m 50s
1792 x 762 = 39.0MB/sec of data (Green display - buffer not being choked)  Unlimited record time

12 bit recordings:
1832 x 780 (largest FF) = 49.0MB/sec of data (Amber display - buffer's fed 9.0MB/sec above what it can write to the card)  test = 25 seconds
1728 x 736 = 43.6MB/sec of data (Amber display - buffer's fed 3.6MB/sec above what it can write to the card)  test = 1 minute
1632 x 694 = 38.8MB/sec of data (Green display - buffer not being choked)  Unlimited record time

14 bit recordings:
1832 x 776 (largest FF) = 56.8MB/sec of data (Amber display - buffer's fed 16.8MB/sec above what it can write to the card)  test = 14 seconds
1728 x 736 = 50.8MB/sec of data (Amber display - buffer's fed 10.8MB/sec above what it can write to the card)  test = 22 seconds
1520 x 644 = 39.1MB/sec of data (Green display - buffer not being choked)  Unlimited record time

Note: The resolution sizes shown here are what I was able to select on the 70D. They differ slightly to what's shown in the M/L RAW Calculator  https://rawcalculator.netlify.com/calculator_desktop  (https://rawcalculator.netlify.com/calculator_desktop), which indicates '1824' (not 1832) as the maximum available width.

Hoping this helps or inspires some-one ..... And I'd be amiss if I didn't say a big 'thank-you' to the amazing M/L Gurus who've achieved such incredible results from these Canon cameras.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: russellsnr on February 27, 2020, 09:27:30 AM
Hi, Posted this question in the general help section for three days without any replies so please can you use ML focus stacking option with a 70D in Photo mode (not video)? Did with my 600D but cannot see it for 70D. Thankyou, Russ.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on February 27, 2020, 05:20:55 PM
70D ist stubborn due to the dual pixel cmos AF. Some focusing features are not enabled. I can't remember myself what exactly was wrong but it had been reported as non working feature and is therefore disabled. You might give it a go and enable the feature and compile a new build to test it though.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: kotofei on March 08, 2020, 10:27:16 PM
Umm.. there is some non-standard feature wants - UNDERCLOCK main CPU. Is it possible ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 08, 2020, 10:54:31 PM
Purpose? Use case?
Just "I want it" doesn't work as a convincing feature request.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on March 10, 2020, 05:24:02 AM
                     @Walter

           "Is It Possible" was the Question ~ I certainly didn't see this as a

> Can Someone Please Do This For Me <
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on March 10, 2020, 07:58:15 AM
+1 for Walter:
Write clearly. Say what you mean, and make sure it can't be misinterpreted. One suggestion from me for underclocking the main CPU would now be: DESOLDER the CPU of the 70D and solder the one from 40D into it. Good luck!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Luther on March 10, 2020, 05:20:03 PM
I agree. But in he's defense, underclocking might decrease sensor temperature and energy usage, which is good when doing astrophotography or anything that uses the camera for hours in high ISO...
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Stigliano on March 13, 2020, 04:41:23 AM
Using the Google Translate. I bought a 3x1 HDMI "HUB". To connect my C100 and 70D to the same monitor. With a button I change which camera I watch on the monitor. When I make this change, the 70D stops recording video. I found that it always happens, if you put hdmi cable with camera recording, recording stops. Is there any solution for this? Strong hug
Title: Re: Canon 70D, v1.1.3 firmware?
Post by: BrucieHartley on March 13, 2020, 10:29:18 PM
Hi, first poster here, with a 70D sporting 1.1.3 firmware. Do I need to revert to V1.1.2 to have ML for Canon 70D work OK?
Thanks
Bruce
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 14, 2020, 12:58:43 PM
Normally you would just be directed to Install Guide (Top of page -> User Guide -> Install Guide) or FAQ or the basic install instructions found in nightly builds download page (also on top of the page).
But 1.1.3 was designed to fight a vulnerability in the firmware update process resulting in blocking firmware downgrades. ATM the only way to get ML running is provided by CPS downgrading to 1.1.2. If you are lucky they will do it. Not all of them comply, though.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: kotofei on March 14, 2020, 05:06:05 PM
Canon 70D has a seriios problem with proper cooling CPU. That black "carbon" stickers on CPU does not help much to cool down CPU during high load (video recording and even being in ML LV mode with couple realtime drawings enabled). It`s canon engineers fault.
Reballing chip doesn`t help.
So be warned - using LV mode shortens life of your cameras. Are you still thinking that underclocking is useless ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on March 14, 2020, 05:29:19 PM
Canon will repair it if first two digits in your camera's serial number are within the range of 00 to 22. Check the product advisory
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on March 17, 2020, 10:54:38 AM
Quote from: kotofei on March 14, 2020, 05:06:05 PM
So be warned - using LV mode shortens life of your cameras. Are you still thinking that underclocking is useless ?

With or without underclocking, the amount of work the CPU has to do in LiveView will be the same. At a higher frequency, it will be in short bursts, with relatively high idle times. At a lower frequency, the CPU will be mostly busy (much shorter idle times). Will this give a significant difference in power draw? I highly doubt.

Is it even possible to adjust the CPU frequency from software, on EOS cameras? Maybe - there are other microcontrollers able to adjust their clock - but here, I have no idea where to look. The closest thing that comes to mind is this (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=21728.msg198529#msg198529), but it's not what you are looking for.

Reducing the LiveView frame rate, e.g. keeping 10 FPS in photo mode, will make a significant difference in power draw (camera temperature, battery life etc). There is an experimental patch in the EOS M thread (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9741.msg173726;topicseen#msg173726).

Reducing the frequency of the sensor clock, on the other hand, could result in better images (lower noise). No idea where this frequency comes from, and whether it can be configured from software. It has nothing to do with the frequency of the main CPU, though.

Short answer: it might not be useless, but... good luck figuring out how to change it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: BaRe on March 20, 2020, 01:12:08 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on March 14, 2020, 12:58:43 PM
Normally you would just be directed to Install Guide (Top of page -> User Guide -> Install Guide) or FAQ or the basic install instructions found in nightly builds download page (also on top of the page).
But 1.1.3 was designed to fight a vulnerability in the firmware update process resulting in blocking firmware downgrades. ATM the only way to get ML running is provided by CPS downgrading to 1.1.2. If you are lucky they will do it. Not all of them comply, though.

I was going to ask the question, so for now we have better time staying in 1.1.2, until a new build comes out?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: jmo1112 on April 03, 2020, 03:48:44 AM
My 70D, which had ML on it, did the thing where it froze and wouldn't shut off until I took the battery out, and then wouldn't turn back on.  I qualified for the free repair from Canon for that, which was great.  When I got the camera back, my firmware was 1.1.3.  So, am I just ess out of luck here?  At least for the foreseeable future?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 04, 2020, 01:19:48 AM
See reply 3458
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: jmo1112 on April 04, 2020, 05:54:17 AM
Thanks for replying, Walter.  I did see that post.  I guess I just wasn't sure if there was actually any hope for an ML on 1.1.3 in the future, or if this was literally the only option for now until forever.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: demon1486 on April 05, 2020, 01:10:00 AM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on March 14, 2020, 12:58:43 PM
Normally you would just be directed to Install Guide (Top of page -> User Guide -> Install Guide) or FAQ or the basic install instructions found in nightly builds download page (also on top of the page).
But 1.1.3 was designed to fight a vulnerability in the firmware update process resulting in blocking firmware downgrades. ATM the only way to get ML running is provided by CPS downgrading to 1.1.2. If you are lucky they will do it. Not all of them comply, though.
i revert back to 1.1.2 it's no problem for 70D.
from 1.1.3 to 1.1.2 using update via SD card
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 05, 2020, 06:41:58 PM
Thanks for correction!
We have troubles finding people willing to test their cams with newest software because of known problem with 5D3. Risk for rendering cam unable to run ML is not an option for most.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: jmo1112 on April 06, 2020, 08:53:06 AM
Quote from: demon1486 on April 05, 2020, 01:10:00 AM
i revert back to 1.1.2 it's no problem for 70D.
from 1.1.3 to 1.1.2 using update via SD card
Wait, you downgraded your firmware by just using the same process as if you were updating it?   And it worked with no issues?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: jmo1112 on April 06, 2020, 06:50:42 PM
Hot damn it worked!  Just FYI, for anyone wanting to try to downgrade, I used the normal updating firmware process via SD card, except I was "upgrading" to 1.1.2.  Seems to be working just fine.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: yokashin on April 06, 2020, 07:25:18 PM
Confirm.  I uploaded 1.1.3 and by regular update I came back to 1.1.2 :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Rodders on April 07, 2020, 12:25:39 AM
Hi All,
Sorry if this post is in the wrong section but it's my first one so be gentle :)
I have only just started having a go with ML on my 70D, it loads ok but there is no FPS section etc under the Movie section in the ML menu. I have uninstalled and reinstalled and have re-downloaded and unzipped the nightly build etc as well with no change.
Am I missing something here, have I done something really basic and dumb?
I am moving the dial to M when checking for it too. I have HDR , RAW video etc coming up just no FFS. This is unfortunately the main feature of ML that I wanted to get a grip with as it will enable me to do Timelapses that will not need processing with third party software to be run as a movie file.
Thank you for reading and if you can help that would be fantastic !!
Rod
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on April 07, 2020, 09:42:38 PM
What is FFS?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Rodders on April 07, 2020, 11:36:38 PM
Sorry, dislexic keyboarder here, I meant FPS and have modified the original post.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 08, 2020, 01:01:19 AM
FPS override feature currently not available on 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on April 08, 2020, 09:34:41 PM
Quote from: Rodders on April 07, 2020, 11:36:38 PM
Sorry, dislexic keyboarder here, I meant FPS and have modified the original post.
Please, refer to my post from March 2019 (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=25786.msg213467#msg213467). I've enabled this feature on 70D. It still has some quirks but is IMO usable. The download link is there, check it out.

Unfortunately no time to continue working on it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Rodders on April 20, 2020, 12:35:47 AM
Thank you ArcziPL, Fantastic :)
i will download and have a play with it, hopefully it can do what I am after and keep me occupied for a while.
Thank you so very much  : :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: aoraki on May 03, 2020, 01:21:54 AM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on April 08, 2020, 01:01:19 AM
FPS override feature currently not available on 70D.

That's a pity - mainly because while most people want to go up I would like to go down to maybe 2 fps. I see it as logical that one takes timelapses without making a zillion photos ( reducing shutter count and shear post production work) by using video. Maybe someone can point me in the right direction. Cheers
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 03, 2020, 05:27:32 AM
Go up 3 replies and follow link.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: aoraki on May 04, 2020, 02:35:34 AM
Thanks Walter - will give that a try. Assuming I can figure out how to install it on the card with the other build already there.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 04, 2020, 04:59:47 PM
                     @ Aoraki

   You can simply create a New Folder on Your Card & Move Your Existing

autoexec.bin

ML Folder

ML-SETUP.FIR

Into that Folder & then add the New Build Counterparts onto the Cards Root Level ~

Or if You choose not to keep the OldBuild on the Card, Just Erase & Replace ~

                                                            ORR~DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: olam84 on May 07, 2020, 08:08:31 PM
Hello, I would really like to help. I have no knowledge of coding but if I could help with anything else... I'll be glad to do it!  :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 08, 2020, 09:42:04 AM
Consider learning to code.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: aoraki on May 09, 2020, 02:04:01 AM
@OlRivrRat  Great that worked well - just stuck it on another card I had
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: bincema24 on July 20, 2020, 05:32:25 PM
Hello guys I'm new in the forum and I've been looking everywhere but I couldn't find a post where I can find the features of ML in all the cameras. I am looking to buy the 5d3, EOS M or the 70D and install ML.
I wanted to know what crop factors, fps and resolutions that the 3 can handle. If you know where I can find that info, please share a link.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: drmoreau on July 21, 2020, 11:23:30 PM
Hey guys. I haven't played with RAW on the 70D in over a year, or maybe two. What's the current modules folks are running and where can I get them?

Just looking for the quickest, simplest setup to get as close to 1080p continuous as possible. Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Nigel95 on September 30, 2020, 03:14:06 PM
I'm a Canon 200d shooter and it looks very interesting to swap to the 70d to shoot 1080 raw and upscale it to 4k at the end for YT. I also use my gimbal quite a lot so I also need 1080p 50p raw. I do love DPAF on my 200d and the tracking feature is very handy. Is that possible at all with 1080 raw to have good continous AF on a gimbal and tracking features? Then it would be the perfect cam for me at such a price point.

In short is the 70d with magic lantern able to give me continous AF / DPAF, higher framerates like 50p and raw with much higher quality than standard canon 8bit .h264 footage of my 200d?

I was looking into the EOS M but the lack of DPAF and flip screen makes it hard to use on my gimbal. 

How stable is the 70d? I don't need to record long clips. Just a lot of short clips to make a cinematic sequence.

Regarding the 1832x1024 resolution. Could I just make a timeline in Premiere pro based on 1832x1024 and when I edited the whole sequence upscale it to UHD before posting to YT?

Any other issues need to be aware off? Let me know.

My plan is to use a preset to get a reasonable base in MLV and then make prores files and edit and grade further in Premiere.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: IDA_ML on October 01, 2020, 09:15:58 AM
Nigel95,

I have the 100D and in the regular RAW video mode (RVM), at 1736x976 and the Movie crop mode (MCM) at 1800x1012 resolution it can provide stable RAW video recording at 42 fps with SD-card overclocking active.  You get about 8-10 sec. recording time at that fps in both modes.   The MCM is a 1x1 mode which provides the best possible quality that you can expect from RAW video, (no aliasing !!!), but you will have to accept the quite large crop factor.  The RVM is a full sensor readout mode with no crop factor but it is a 3x3 mode meaning that you may end up with some aliasing in that mode.  If you learn how to avoid it, you can get stunning quality RAW video that upscales nicely to 4k for Youtube. Please watch Zeek's videos on that matter.  He creates miracles with his EOS-M in the RVM and makes very useful suggestions on how to avoid aliasing when filming and reduce it in post if it occurs in critical scenes.

For gimbal work, the EF-S 10-18/IS is your lens.  It is stabilized and works very well with the 100D in the above modes.  The camera has tracking focus but it is slow and sluggish and sometimes hunts.  I wouldn't use it, moreover, it is not needed for the above lens due to its large DOF.  Video quality is fantastic - nothing to do with the the built-in H.264 video.  So, if you can live without DPAF and flip screen, the 100D and the EOS-M are  excellent and cheap ML-capable alternatives to your 200D.  If you are willing to spend some more, the 700D also has the flipped screen and may be very attractive too, especially with the latest real time preview improvements by TheBilalFakhouri.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Nigel95 on October 01, 2020, 03:15:01 PM
Quote from: IDA_ML on October 01, 2020, 09:15:58 AM
The RVM is a full sensor readout mode with no crop factor but it is a 3x3 mode meaning that you may end up with some aliasing in that mode.  If you learn how to avoid it, you can get stunning quality RAW video that upscales nicely to 4k for Youtube.

For gimbal work, the EF-S 10-18/IS is your lens. 

Oh yeah I have the 10-18, 60mm macro and sigma 18-35 1.8 already. Love this glass collection from uwa to macro abilities. The ML crop mode with my canon 60mm is also very nice for super close up footage. What I don't like about the 10-18 sometimes is the large dof. For my kind of shooting style (indoor and more close ups as well) I love to have the sigma 18-35 on a gimbal and play around with small DOF. This is where DPAF really helps or all shots will be like rack focus.

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: IDA_ML on October 02, 2020, 07:20:21 AM
Nigel95,

Aliasing occurs along straight contrast lines and edges (e. g. power lines) as a result of line skipping horizontally and vertically.  You will barely notice it on your aquarium shots, especially if you film on a tripod.  It will be more perceptible in your gimbal shots due to camera motion and inability to avoid contrast edges and straight lines but overall video quality will still be much better than the built-in H.264.  I do not have the 70D and cannot comment on its DPAF capabilities.  You will have to borrow it and check it out by yourself before purchase.  But if you expect it to track focus like the R5 and R6, forget it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: andy kh on October 02, 2020, 09:35:04 AM
Auto focus works great but the problem with my 70D is aliasing and moire. I have unistall ML from my 70D. Im not sure if its only my camera or other 70D users are also facing the moire aliasing issue.
I started shooting raw with my 550D and than 650D. They were much better than my 70D in terms of moire and aliasing
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: yokashin on October 02, 2020, 01:31:18 PM
For filming in raw I bought eos m. 70D I tried but I was not delighted with the final effect ...
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on October 05, 2020, 05:17:31 PM
It may seem a bit late, but the 70D has a VAF for moire and aliasing. There is also the 3X mode, which does not line skip.  However the intensity of 3X mode is less, as it does not over sample the sensor.  So sensor noise can be a bigger factor.  I have used 3X mode, but for me it takes more effort in contrast & post IQ corrections.  Would not use it for very low light situations, were noise gets closer to amount of light on the sensor; or very bright where the sensor can get over saturated (Ok ND filter would help with this).

As for those who seek another cam. Well for me the next step would be R6 if after a new price, but its only 10bit and that is with c-log processing H.265. The 5D mkIII for a used price and raw video were a priority, it has a built in VAF.

Crying about 70D dpaf, is rather odd to me, as for video, many reviews have shown its very good, but then again its generally used for less than 10% of video shots.  If you are mostly shooting live action, I would think your not going to use a 70D raw, but want a 10bit H.264 1080p camera for live streaming.     
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Kgncom on October 06, 2020, 02:30:08 AM
Hey guys, I haven't checked into the 70D world for a while since I got an EOSM, but I have a few questions for you guys. Particularly about event shooting, MLV vs H264, and DPAF.

The long and short of it is a buddy of mine does standup, and he was wondering if I'd be game to help him record a big set he has coming up at a nicer venue. The upcoming show he's wanting to have recorded would be 2x20-30 minutes sets, and I will be running both the EOSM and 70D to capture it. We did a test run at a smaller venue with just the EOSM, using ML, but sticking to h264. We ran into a few speed bumps, mostly just seeming to hit a file size limit and have the camera restart recording, leaving a small gap in the video every 9-12 minutes.

Does the current build for the 70D in this thread have this particular quirk? Is it only something that affects h264 (assuming you don't max out the buffer)? Would anyone recommend using MLV as opposed to h264? Further more, assuming we opt to use MLV on the 70D I'm wondering what raw video/crop modes have access to DPAF at this point in time, and if anyone has managed recording continuously to the degree I'm aiming to here on 70D? Any and all tips and pointers would be appreciated greatly. I love the ML community!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: MisterB on November 16, 2020, 09:58:51 PM
Hi,
I recently installed the Magic lantern on my 70D. All ML features seem to work apart from the ability to save as RAW. File format and image size listings don't appear in the Movie menu. I made sure I'd updated to firmware 1.1.2 before installing. Can anyone advise?

Thanks,
Mr B
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on December 09, 2020, 09:30:34 AM
Modules tab -> mlv_lite.mo or mlv_rec.mo
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Vinxi on December 09, 2020, 12:02:34 PM
You are too close. Take two steps back and witness the mess MagicLantern is in!

I am a photographer and believe I am capable of appreciating what ML offers. And hey, ML is really about photography, right? When I stumble through the main residence of ML (magiclantern.fm), I find old ML builds for the 70D (Dec 24 '18), then somehow find links to newer builds on bitbucket which are dead, and then get a tip to visit some other coder jungle - to which I don't even remember the name of the site - yet none offer any hope of finding newer ML or even a depository of modules. Well, just about then is when the frustration begins to fester and my disillusions over ML grow.

Here are some practical examples of frustration generators, but if anyone needs more, just ask. Let's go to YouTube for a moment and watch the guy from France demonstrating FPS_override and sd_uhs on a 70D. I saw it, it works, just his links to where to find the code send the user to a cute little loop in no-mans-land on bitbucket. Some will say that those modules don't work on a 70D. Fine, perhaps not, but his video proves the contrary. Another user on good old YouTube mentions the ML 70D build dated March 2019 containing modules which are not included in the official newest ML build from Dec. 2018. Unfortunately ML doesn't seem to know anything about that 2019 build. Another part of the problem is, apparently nobody knows what ML can and cannot do on any specific camera. Understandable, it's complex, but surely the information does exist, ML is simply not capable of delivering this information to the user.

OK, you can complain that I am ungrateful and should better appreciate what the developers have achieved. Absolutely, that's me, my bad. But hey, if you can code at this level then you should be able to prevent chaos. Coder-Chaos is what ML is experiencing today. The main reason for this chaos is nothing more than laziness and a lack of appreciation for organization. Guys, skip the pizza and chips today and clean-up your desk instead. If not, eventually all this stuff is gonna bite you in the rump and you will have nothing but a bucket of worthless bits. Good luck!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on December 09, 2020, 11:40:49 PM
What should I say? I want to edit a wiki since beginning of September but no avail because login is broken.
But you are wrong about main reason.

Title: Re: Canon 70D - Clean HDMI?
Post by: Involute on December 11, 2020, 08:15:37 PM
Can Magic Lantern be configured to remove all overlays (like crop marks) from my video when sent over HDMI?  Using just the Info. button (no Magic Lantern), I can remove everything except crop marks.  I'd like to use the camera as a web cam, so they'd be annoying.  I can remove them using Canon's web cam utility (which works over USB), but that restricts me to a 4:3 aspect ratio.  Thanks for any tips.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on December 12, 2020, 08:41:49 AM
https://wiki.magiclantern.fm/camera_help#clear_overlays
https://wiki.magiclantern.fm/camera_help#lv_display_presets
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on January 31, 2021, 11:18:03 AM
Hi, guys! I recently installed Ml to my 70D and it is great! I checked Raw recording and other stuff. I'm going to buy fast sdxc card. But I have a question about some functions. For example: cbr, crop mode, detailed audio settings, fps override. I need to wait new build or there wouldn't be any new one? Thx for advice! :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 31, 2021, 01:57:39 PM
CBR doesn't apply to raw/MLV.
70D contains Digic 5 and audio settings are "limited". Very limited: https://wiki.magiclantern.fm/camera_help#audio
For high-res raw/MLV recording you can start with experimental crop_4k build. Top of page -> Downloads -> Downloads (drop-down menu) -> Experiments.

Dang, I always forget about 70D's limits! Thanks to TheBilalFakhouri for reminding me (again!): There is a custom build for 70D https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=25786.msg213074#msg213074
Updated download links: https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=25786.msg230726#msg230726
70D is a little bit odd because of dual-pixel AF.

Take a look into our ML Glossary (https://wiki.magiclantern.fm/glossary), too.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on January 31, 2021, 03:10:32 PM
Thanks! ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: vicenzzopaiva on February 06, 2021, 07:01:05 PM
I'm buying the 70D now to be my primary camera alongside with the M for ML.
The latest build for the 70D is the one from mar/19?
What's working and what's not? I've read a lot of this thread and posted links but i didn't seem to be able to sum up the working bits.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on February 06, 2021, 07:33:36 PM
List of not working features of the "original" nigtly build:

https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.0#post_notworking


My custom build has additionally added lossless compression of RAW video (thanks to a1ex help) and disabled FEATURE_ARROW_SHORTCUTS, which was buggy:
https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=25786.0

And some days later FPS override was activated (thanks to findings of David_Hugh) which is having a small glitch but is usable
https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=25786.msg213467#msg213467

There are no crop_rec presets available. It's doable but no time here.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: vicenzzopaiva on February 09, 2021, 12:06:19 AM
Nice, thank you!
Working ok here. I missed the "press SET to" load/skip ML on startup feature, is this anything easy to implement?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on February 18, 2021, 05:30:09 PM
Hello! I have question about crop mode. I can't turn it on. It just has got "YARES" function. I know about 5x zoom but it is still luggy
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 18, 2021, 05:33:45 PM
I suppose you're not a native english speaker. I'm none either. Your translation tool doesn't work well or you are using slang unfamiliar to me: YARES and luggy.

Suggestions:
- Try to use https:/deepl.com instead. It almost everytime works better than google translator.
- and add your issue using your native language.

If everything fails: Make a short video showing your issue.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on February 18, 2021, 06:42:52 PM
Hi again. I wanted to say that the zoom crop is buggy. In the crop mod section (crop_rec.mo) I see the target, yres, delta, cmos parameters and others. Is there a guide on how to enable the crop module ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 18, 2021, 06:44:33 PM
Press zoom/magnify/loupe button to enter crop mode.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on February 18, 2021, 06:57:04 PM
Thx for help. Also i have a question about this menu: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-qKuquwQMUoIKEtniryx2VON_TLNPeuN/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 18, 2021, 07:06:21 PM
You will find build info in Help tab/screen on the bottom. Please share this one.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on February 18, 2021, 07:10:18 PM
here it is: https://drive.google.com/file/d/11W36Q_FpCp380sJJL1l7rXxJuHJpqZTz/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 18, 2021, 07:17:49 PM
Slight misunderstanding: I need the info from the screen itself. Don't have QEMU running here.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on February 18, 2021, 07:19:54 PM

do I need to send a photo of the build?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on February 18, 2021, 07:28:34 PM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K876189LjnwdMBuY6_-tUXhcyXNbxeH4/view?usp=sharing i finally understand
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: theBilalFakhouri on February 18, 2021, 07:54:30 PM
Quote from: EphimAO on February 18, 2021, 06:57:04 PM
Thx for help. Also i have a question about this menu: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-qKuquwQMUoIKEtniryx2VON_TLNPeuN/view?usp=sharing

This menu has no effect on 70D, it's related to custom high resolutions which are not presented in 70D, this menu made originally for 5D3 users to push a custom resolution further or fine-tune it:

Quote from: a1ex on April 01, 2017, 11:15:41 AM
..
* Full-width LiveView - decrease vertical resolution in the crop_rec submenu, all the way to 5796x400 @ 48 fps :)
..
* Since these settings were pushed to limit, the risk of corrupted frames is high. If it happens, decrease the vertical resolution a bit (from the crop_rec submenu).
..

May I fine-tune the new modes?

Yes! I've included some of the knobs on the user interface. Normally you shouldn't need to touch these buttons, but if you do, you might be able to squeeze a few more pixels.
..

So for now, just ignore it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on February 19, 2021, 04:40:07 AM
ok, thx
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: janjan on February 27, 2021, 07:50:47 PM
Hi,
Are the nightly builds still updated? the last one if from 2018.
Is there a newer version.

Thanks,

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 27, 2021, 07:55:08 PM
Top of page -> Downloads -> Downloads (drop down menu) -> Experiments
and
https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=66.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: janjan on February 27, 2021, 08:43:15 PM
Thanks
Found it and I realized that stack focus is now working.
Has this been implemented a while ago?
Last time I checked , which was quite some time ago, it wasn't.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: a1ex on February 27, 2021, 09:43:55 PM
I've enabled it 3 years ago (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg197404#msg197404).

To date, I haven't received any confirmation on whether it works or not, except for your message. Mind providing some more details? I don't own this camera, and QEMU doesn't emulate this functionality, so I cannot check it myself.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: janjan on February 27, 2021, 09:57:51 PM
I'll make some more thorough test in the following days and report back...
I only checked it briefly today with the latest experimental build and it was working.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: janjan on March 01, 2021, 10:41:06 AM
Quote from: a1ex on February 27, 2021, 09:43:55 PM
I've enabled it 3 years ago (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg197404#msg197404).

To date, I haven't received any confirmation on whether it works or not, except for your message. Mind providing some more details? I don't own this camera, and QEMU doesn't emulate this functionality, so I cannot check it myself.

I've checked it and it appear to work as expected.
I defined the start end/point using the built in option.
Set the required steps behind and in front it was taking image and moving the focus as expected.


Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: hdslr on March 01, 2021, 05:15:48 PM
Hello everyone ( sorry I don't speak English I translated for Deepl)
I have a 70D and haven't used the Magic Lanter for about 5 years. Installed today and I was lost lolll
1 - I would like to know if it is already possible to have a completely clean HDMI output, without any black bars to use on a Blackmagic atem mini table.
2- I don't like the original soft image from canon. The RAW image has much more detail than sony alpha. I would like to know if it is already possible to record full hd or near full hd continuous raw. I saw that it has 10/12/14 bit but stopped at maximum 20 seconds even using U3 card.
3 - Is there any recording without sesr RAW that has more detail in the image compared to the original?
4 - Which firmware should I use?

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 01, 2021, 08:14:56 PM
1: No. 1680x1080, 60 fps interlaced.
2: U3 is a pretty useless designation. 30 MByte/s isn't sufficient to reach cam's vanilla SD-card interface limit without overclocking: Around 43 MByte/s read, 40-ish write. Something like Sandisk Extreme Pro in the 170/160 MByte/s (as labeled) has given most consistent results with and without overclocking.
3: Nothing to write home about.
4: If you want to go after highest resolution in raw/MLV recording:https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=25786.msg234507#msg234507
Read first post (at least) of this thread.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ArcziPL on March 02, 2021, 12:30:31 AM
Quote from: hdslr on March 01, 2021, 05:15:48 PMI would like to know if it is already possible to record full hd or near full hd continuous raw. I saw that it has 10/12/14 bit but stopped at maximum 20 seconds even using U3 card.
Use Sandisk Extreme PRO 170MB/s card and enable sd_uhs module, then set overclocking to 192 or 240MHz in the Debug tab. It will improve the write speeds.
Quote from: hdslr on March 01, 2021, 05:15:48 PM4 - Which firmware should I use?
Canon firmware v1.1.2 and I believe this ML version: https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=25786.msg213074#msg213074
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on March 02, 2021, 11:13:41 AM
Hi guys! I have a question about continuous raw recording. If my card is fast enough, will I be able to record video for a long time? Or image buffer will die?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 02, 2021, 11:25:49 AM
?
If buffer overrun occurs buffer overrun occurs.
It will occur if data input data rate is higher than output data rate.
And data output rate may be limited by cam's interface limit or card write rate.

Your question is like "Will a rope break?"

If you use data rate below any limiting bottleneck in transfer chain you will get unlimited raw recording durations. (Disclaimer: Card size, battery, overheating).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on March 02, 2021, 11:29:11 AM
thx for reply. So if card is fast enough, recording time is big?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 02, 2021, 11:31:29 AM
Quote from: EphimAO on March 02, 2021, 11:29:11 AM
thx for reply. So if card is fast enough, recording time is big?

No
Yes
Maybe

Question makes no sense without resolution/data rate in mind. So answer is volatile.

You can record unlimited 540p25 with any card doing 25 MByte/s. You can't run 4k30 in 14 bit uncompressed RAW with any card in the world for longer than a few seconds.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on March 02, 2021, 11:37:28 AM
Resolution: 1824x1026
The speed of the card I want to buy: read 300mb/s, write 260mb/s
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 02, 2021, 11:44:18 AM
These speeds are for UHS-II cards in UHS-II compatible devices. Your camera does not have an UHS-II interface. It runs UHS-I.
UHS-II cards in UHS-I devices run in UHS-I compatibility mode. They will *not* be faster than fastest UHS-I cards.
We have limited experience with UHS-II cards with ML overclocking. You are best adviced to get a Sandisk Extreme Pro 170 MB/s.

1824x1026 x 14 x 25 fps / 8 = 78 MiByte/s -> I suppose it will not do for unlimited recording.
You will have to use bit depth < 14 bit and/or compression mode.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on March 02, 2021, 11:45:35 AM
thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on March 02, 2021, 01:45:28 PM
This model, right? https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-64GB-Extreme-UHS-I-SDSDXXY-064G-GN4IN/dp/B07H9J1YXN?th=1
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: yokashin on March 02, 2021, 02:05:48 PM
Yes. It's this model.
For 128 gb, it holds about 40 minutes of lossless compressed 1080p, 14 bit, 24p material.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dnhstv on March 02, 2021, 02:21:40 PM
The Canon 70D has a 30min limit for live view.  Does ML allow to override this limit and have live view through hdmi stay on for longer?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on March 02, 2021, 03:02:22 PM
thank you very much
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: paci on March 02, 2021, 04:33:13 PM
Hello, Are Canon firmware v1.1.3 and ML supported? if not, why?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 02, 2021, 04:37:04 PM
No. Because *you* let us down by not programming it.
Longer answer: https://twitter.com/autoexec_bin/status/1332401580449165314
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on March 02, 2021, 04:38:57 PM
Quote from: paci on March 02, 2021, 04:33:13 PM
Hello, Are Canon firmware v1.1.3 and ML supported? if not, why?
you can make downgrade of your firmware to 1.1.2
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: paci on March 02, 2021, 04:44:15 PM
Thank you  :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: hdslr on March 03, 2021, 02:11:54 AM
Thank you

Quote from: Walter Schulz on March 01, 2021, 08:14:56 PM
1: No. 1680x1080, 60 fps interlaced.
2: U3 is a pretty useless designation. 30 MByte/s isn't sufficient to reach cam's vanilla SD-card interface limit without overclocking: Around 43 MByte/s read, 40-ish write. Something like Sandisk Extreme Pro in the 170/160 MByte/s (as labeled) has given most consistent results with and without overclocking.
3: Nothing to write home about.
4: If you want to go after highest resolution in raw/MLV recording:https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=25786.msg234507#msg234507
Read first post (at least) of this thread.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: vicenzzopaiva on March 03, 2021, 04:25:13 PM
Some things about cards and the 70D build:

I have one 70D and one EOS M right now, if developers want to test anything specially with the 70D (danne is doing some AWESOME work updating the EOS M already), count with me.

About the cards: The fastest i've been able to get on the 70D was about 70mb/s with an Adata v90 128Gb UHS-II with fixed overclock on 160Mhz:

(https://imgur.com/a/h5IjZtw)
https://imgur.com/a/h5IjZtw

Even the Extreme Pro reaches just about that  on the 70D, while it reaches around 85mb/s with the EOS M.
-----
Something i just thought: in ML since we have the info on focal distance used, aperture, depth of field and others, do we have the info on the rotation of the STM (or FTM USM) ring? If yes, would it be possible to use that info to replicate the RF control ring (change ISO, WB, etc)?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: aknyazhev on April 27, 2021, 02:05:29 PM
Hi there!
Please sorry me: I have no ability to read the whole topic. May be, my question already was here. If it so, please point me - where (if it possible)

On my 70D was firmware 1.1.3. I downgraded it to 1.1.2. Then I installed Magic Lantern on it. And any ML overlays didn't show.
In ML menu Global Draw = ON, all modes (also tryed others values - without any result). Pressed INFO button mutch times - no result (but Canon overlayes turns off, in cycle).
How can I turn ML overlays on?

UPD It start working: in Canon menu I pressed "Clear all camera settings"
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: elenhil on June 14, 2021, 02:50:30 PM
Is there a working 70D build with 1x3 binning (anamorphic)?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: elenhil on July 12, 2021, 06:37:58 PM
More to the point, is the 70D community a thing, at all?  :-[
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on July 15, 2021, 05:46:18 PM
Hi guys. Recently I tryed DSLR controller app with my 70d and its cool. But i have got a problem. When I m starting ml raw rec app is going crashed. Can I fix this? Thx
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: iliush on July 16, 2021, 12:02:11 AM
elenhil, I don't have a 70d, but on my 100d, tge info button change the display orders. Meybe will work also for you.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: elenhil on September 17, 2021, 10:37:33 PM
Am I correct thinking that DualISO video on 70D is almost unusable because no build has working 1x3 binning (seemingly a prerequisite for DualISO video without extreme aliasing)?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: elenhil on October 05, 2021, 04:01:26 PM
To whom it might concern: Bilal (he of the 650D/700D fame) had expressed his interest in working on the 70D build, but lack the camera itself: https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=25784.msg236046#msg236046
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on October 15, 2021, 08:08:49 PM
FYI: 70D and dual iso (video) are a NO GO. I even documented it in source code. Dealbreaker ist the dualpixel AF
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: elenhil on October 15, 2021, 08:10:29 PM
Oh, cr@p. But thanks for the heads-up (not no mention the original port)!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: theBilalFakhouri on October 15, 2021, 10:14:41 PM
Quote from: nikfreak on October 15, 2021, 08:08:49 PM
FYI: 70D and dual iso (video) are a NO GO. I even documented it in source code. Dealbreaker ist the dualpixel AF

Oh sh!t, I could find these comments in dual_iso.c for 70D:

        /* WE DO NOT SEEM TO BE ABLE TO USE DUAL ISO IN MOVIE MODE */
        /* MORE CONFUSING IS THAT WE ARE INDEED ABLE TO USE */
        /* CMOS[0] OR CMOS[3]. BOTH SEEM TO WORK WELL IN PHOTO MODE */
        /* FOR NOW LET US OPT FOR CMOS[0] BUT THE QUESTION IS: */
        /* COULD WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF USING BOTH AT THE SAME TIME (TRIPLE ISO)? */


Is there any further details why it won't work in movie mode? it just doesn't work; no sign of alternated ISO in movie mode?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on October 16, 2021, 09:05:49 AM
Heavy flickering appearing with flipflopping colors. Canon calls it themselves "Dual Pixel CMOS AF". So it is interfering! Back then had some heavy talk with a1ex about this but wasn't able to find a solution although spending much time.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: plyso on October 26, 2021, 07:21:48 AM
First post here!
Does anyone else have issues with Image File Naming? For me the Image File Prefix is unclickable, asking to load the IME modules (ime_base.mo and one ime_*.mo). I already have the img_name module on OK, and the subsequent image file or folder number options seem to work just fine!
Is there any way to fix this, as I really would love this feature.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 15, 2021, 03:14:24 PM
Please tell us which modules are actually loaded, if you still get any error messages and what the actual problem is.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on November 25, 2021, 04:20:11 AM
Hi guys! Does anyone have 70d source code?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: names_are_hard on November 25, 2021, 06:15:13 AM
Source code for what?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on November 26, 2021, 01:41:39 PM
I have got a problem with shutter blanking. I want to fix it by compiling right adresses
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: names_are_hard on November 26, 2021, 04:47:00 PM
Which build are you using?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on November 27, 2021, 05:00:35 AM
Nightly.2019Mar15.70D112_crop_rec_4k_mlv_lite_lossless_fps_override_experimental.zip
from

Link: https://web.archive.org/web/20200621151436/https://bbuseruploads.s3.amazonaws.com/3f5144c4-ac62-40a5-9661-de9d52f6bf3c/downloads/01448683-ef3b-442b-9831-6ee2c668416e/magiclantern-Nightly.2019Mar15.70D112_crop_rec_4k_mlv_lite_lossless_fps_override_experimental.zip?Signature=qh8m4nVuigUnnAJ0cJjmzT0GjiE%3D&Expires=1592754276&AWSAccessKeyId=AKIA6KOSE3BNJRRFUUX6&versionId=D_W7frtkveuNaUux149vjL8R1ZyWIuM4&response-content-disposition=attachment%3B%20filename%3D%22magiclantern-Nightly.2019Mar15.70D112_crop_rec_4k_mlv_lite_lossless_fps_override_experimental.zip%22
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: names_are_hard on November 27, 2021, 05:15:12 AM
Bilal, over to you :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: theBilalFakhouri on November 27, 2021, 07:28:14 AM
Looks like an old build, I have the latest source code for ArcziPL's custom builds (2021 version), here is it:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1fTgdcRyXWw86vO2v7g3x_sJOWAMf45is

Put ".hg" folder beside the other folders (which are "build_tools", "contrib" .. etc).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on November 27, 2021, 07:48:00 AM
Thank you very much!!!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on November 27, 2021, 07:09:19 PM
I understood that i'm a noob at coding so i'm asking for help. My problem is shutter blanking. I've got weird fps and exposure is a bit strange too. I found compile process but I don't know how to find right adresses and hardcode them. Help please  :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: theBilalFakhouri on November 27, 2021, 09:07:16 PM
How to get the addresses:
https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=25784.msg236184#msg236184

You need to put the addresses in const.h file inside /platform/70D.112 folder.. hmm it seems 70D has something with shutter blanking (shutter blanking addresses are not defined for some reason). Anyway you need to put your addresses in these lines:

#define FRAME_SHUTTER_BLANKING_ZOOM   (*(uint16_t*)0x40452180) // ADTG register 805f
#define FRAME_SHUTTER_BLANKING_NOZOOM (*(uint16_t*)0x40452184) // ADTG register 8061


Are you using FPS override?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on November 28, 2021, 12:22:52 PM
thx. I used fps override but it didnt help
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on November 28, 2021, 02:55:54 PM
I changed adresses and successfully compiled the build but it changed nothing. Maybe because of reason you said
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on November 28, 2021, 04:50:11 PM
it might be that i did something wrong: https://ibb.co/Pj2WcrN  ???
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on November 28, 2021, 04:51:38 PM
i modified only 0x********
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: theBilalFakhouri on November 29, 2021, 07:46:00 AM
Quote from: EphimAO on November 28, 2021, 04:50:11 PM
it might be that i did something wrong: https://ibb.co/Pj2WcrN  ???

You need to remove "//" before each line:

from:
// #define FRAME_SHUTTER_BLANKING_ZOOM   (*(uint16_t*)0x404e6180) // ADTG register 805f
// #define FRAME_SHUTTER_BLANKING_NOZOOM (*(uint16_t*)0x404e6184) // ADTG register 8061


to

#define FRAME_SHUTTER_BLANKING_ZOOM   (*(uint16_t*)0x404e6180) // ADTG register 805f
#define FRAME_SHUTTER_BLANKING_NOZOOM (*(uint16_t*)0x404e6184) // ADTG register 8061


Tip: a code after "//" in the same line won't be compiled and will be recognized as comment
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: theBilalFakhouri on November 29, 2021, 07:58:09 AM
Quote from: EphimAO on November 28, 2021, 12:22:52 PM
..I used fps override but it didnt help

I didn't ask to use FPS override..



Well,
Quote from: EphimAO on November 26, 2021, 01:41:39 PM
I have got a problem with shutter blanking. I want to fix it by compiling right adresses

What type of shutter issues are you having? could you share picture/short video showing the problem?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on November 29, 2021, 12:54:51 PM
Quote from: theBilalFakhouri on November 29, 2021, 07:58:09 AM
I didn't ask to use FPS override..



Well,
What type of shutter issues are you having? could you share picture/short video showing the problem?
Something like this: https://ibb.co/n8nD0Rj

I changed lines but it didnt change anything  :'(
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on November 29, 2021, 12:57:45 PM
also fps is 29.986
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on November 29, 2021, 01:26:30 PM
I think that I compile incorrectly. I changed some icons in source code but it didnt work (the extension and  height are right)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: theBilalFakhouri on November 29, 2021, 05:01:47 PM
Quote from: EphimAO on November 29, 2021, 12:54:51 PM
Something like this: https://ibb.co/n8nD0Rj
...

Looks normal to me, what are you expecting?

Quote from: EphimAO on November 29, 2021, 12:57:45 PM
also fps is 29.986


What FPS are you looking for? you can change FPS from Canon menu, e.g change movie rec size from 1080p30 to 1080p24 or 1080p25 (PAL/NTSC)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: yokashin on November 29, 2021, 05:52:23 PM
Quote from: EphimAO on November 29, 2021, 12:54:51 PM
Something like this: https://ibb.co/n8nD0Rj

I changed lines but it didnt change anything  :'(

Maybe it is that the lighting flashes with 50 herz and dark frames appear?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on November 29, 2021, 06:34:58 PM
Quote from: yokashin on November 29, 2021, 05:52:23 PM
Maybe it is that the lighting flashes with 50 herz and dark frames appear?
no
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on November 29, 2021, 06:38:30 PM
Quote from: theBilalFakhouri on November 29, 2021, 05:01:47 PM
Looks normal to me, what are you expecting?

What FPS are you looking for? you can change FPS from Canon menu, e.g change movie rec size from 1080p30 to 1080p24 or 1080p25 (PAL/NTSC)
I cant change fps. My default is 25p but when I applied 5x zoom it gets broken. And as far I know normal shutter in deegres at 1/50 is 180.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: elenhil on November 29, 2021, 06:48:31 PM
Quote from: EphimAO on November 29, 2021, 06:38:30 PM
I cant change fps. My default is 25p but when I applied 5x zoom it gets broken. And as far I know normal shutter in deegres at 1/50 is 180.
Crop mode indeed changes FPS override settings (at least on my 70D). You need to set it after entering crop mode, that's all.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on November 29, 2021, 06:53:27 PM
oh
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on November 29, 2021, 06:54:48 PM
i changed fps override to 25 and set timer A to adresses to archieve 25 fps
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on November 29, 2021, 06:55:32 PM
and shutter now is 50.07 / 180 degrees
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on November 29, 2021, 06:56:35 PM
Thanks to the people who was helping me
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: theBilalFakhouri on November 29, 2021, 07:08:43 PM
Yeah, in x5 mode the default framerate is 30 FPS, x5 mode ignores FPS setting from Canon menu, so in this case you need to use FPS override from ML menu, set it to 25 FPS.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on November 29, 2021, 07:20:14 PM
thx
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OrakMoya on March 05, 2022, 06:39:53 PM
Hey guys, I was wondering how do I go about actually compiling this and installing it on my camera?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 05, 2022, 07:09:23 PM
You don't need to compile. Go to top of page -> Downloads and choose your flavour:
70D plain vanilla built located in nightly build page
Several "experimental" builds on experimental build page. For starters I recommend lua_fix build, not nightly. Install instructions found in nightly build page apply.
Or go to forum -> Experimental builds (WIP) -> crop_rec and derived builds -> sticky post "ArcziPL's crop_rec_4k experiments for 70D" for a more adventureous ride on the edge.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on April 22, 2022, 07:57:47 PM
Hi!) Are there any 70d devs? There is a new ml version and it will be great to port it. Thx
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 22, 2022, 08:35:54 PM
Quote from: EphimAO on April 22, 2022, 07:57:47 PM
There is a new ml version and it will be great to port it.

What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on April 22, 2022, 08:38:15 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on April 22, 2022, 08:35:54 PM
What are you talking about?
https://youtu.be/a8FM_nlA8R8
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: theBilalFakhouri on April 23, 2022, 01:39:41 AM
Quote from: EphimAO on April 22, 2022, 07:57:47 PM
Hi!) Are there any 70d devs? There is a new ml version and it will be great to port it. Thx

Hello,

Currently there is no active developer on 70D.

That ML version you mentioned is only for EOS M. 70D is a different camera with a unique sensor. as far as I know no one has attempted to increase RAW resolution yet on 70D.
Controlling Framerate correctly is the first step to increase RAW resolution. well, FPS override is still glitchy (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=25786.msg213467#msg213467) on 70D.

More research is required for 70D --> because of Dual Pixel sensor. the difficulty of porting high resolutions to 70D is currently unknown :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: EphimAO on April 23, 2022, 08:46:35 AM
thank you for detailed answer  ;D
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: wazaa08 on November 06, 2022, 05:58:15 AM
Hi! Im currently at ArcziPL's crop_rec_4k version from 01.03.2021, i been investigating a lot, trying out all the different raw modes and im pretty happy with the results but the only thing i could not archieve is high framerates without moire and aliasing.

I read that in crop mode you can solve those problems but can't go higher than 30fps when i enter that mode (also its supposed to be 5x like me? or there is a way to do only 3x?)

Quote from: David_Hugh on September 11, 2018, 11:01:54 AM
I'll let others eveluate if this is really what I hope it is but I think I had a minor breakthrough! Sometimes the simplest solutions are the best. I thought, well if 60fps is causing too much lag and 25fps works fine, maybe 50fps is low enough in order for things to work properly. So I switched to PAL video mode in canon menu and redid my original changes (without messing with timer A and B) AND IT WORKED!

The vertical resolution is limited to 626 pixels at the moment (I think was to be expected without the timer changes, right?) BUT, the files are not strechted and there is (stretched) real time preview and recording! For me personally (and everyone else with a 70D) this means that slow-mo recording has become at least moire free and the resolution is good enough in 2.35:1 to be incorporated into a 1080p project (in my opinion) :D!

How can i do that? 626px at 50fps without stretching will be perfect for me at the moment! =D But i dont know if i have to use another build, etc.

Thanks a lot! I love the ML community, my 70d feels refreshed with this raw video modes :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: kalamuni on February 14, 2023, 10:06:36 AM
Can ChatGPT help ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: names_are_hard on February 14, 2023, 03:35:04 PM
Probably not.  Feel free to try it and see.