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General Discussion => General Chat => Topic started by: Nautilus on April 13, 2014, 10:07:25 PM

Poll
Question: What would you like to see most?
Option 1: 2K, 3.5K or 4K
Option 2: 1080p RAW video recording
Option 3: Slow Motion - 1080p@60FPS & 720p@120FPS
Option 4: Flip out and touch screen
Option 5: Better video codec
Option 6: More processing power (Quad core CPU?)
Option 7: Longer battery life
Option 8: Dual Pixel technology & STM lenses
Option 9: Faster SD&CF controller
Option 10: Other (please specify)
Title: Vote your 5 desired features for upcoming Canon FF camera
Post by: Nautilus on April 13, 2014, 10:07:25 PM
As title says, rumors suggest that we'll soon see a new FF camera from Canon (possible 5D Mark IV) in response to new 4K capable Sony A7 and Panasonic GH4 . Please vote the top 5 features that you'd like to see implemented in upcoming Canon product.

Please note that this poll was made merely for entertainment.
Title: Re: Vote your 5 desired features for upcoming Canon FF camera
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 13, 2014, 11:13:20 PM
Faster SD&CF controller: Doesn't make that much sense. Canon should get rid of those ancient technologies (CF is limited to 167 MByte/s) and switch to CFast/XQD or else.
Title: Re: Vote your 5 desired features for upcoming Canon FF camera
Post by: Andy600 on April 13, 2014, 11:57:48 PM
4K is being pushed hard now but while I've been very impressed by the level of detail from the GH4 and A7 on wide, static shots and portrait tests (Driftwood's latest GH4 tests come to mind), I dunno. There is something about 4K in motion that is as distracting to me as 48fps. 4K does gain a lot of detail but at the same time it loses something of the 'unreal'. I'll probably change my mind when everything I see online and on TV is 4K and my humble 1080p raw-shot videos are suddenly 'mush' but I still need some convincing. 4K for cinema and nature docs yes! 4K for run-n-gun, indie film making, not so sure....yet. One thing is certain, there will be a lot of poorly shot but highly detailed 'crap' clogging up Youtube and Vimeo soon, as opposed to the less detailed HD crap we're  used to

As for new features from Canon, I would quite like to see in-body stabilization (but Canon won't do it because it will hurt their lens business), Prores 4:4:2 in all DSLRs, but most of all, faster media writing and 120fps 1080p. Officially supporting and helping ML would be the biggest thing I would wish for. That would get my attention more than 4K moving stills.
Title: Re: Vote your 5 desired features for upcoming Canon FF camera
Post by: reddeercity on April 14, 2014, 01:02:54 AM
I think 4k is overrated far to much, its great to work with or to master to 1080p but in reality the cost to broadcast 4k content is still to expensive even on the internet
the bandwidth requirement's are very high. I like what the GH4 is possible of doing with the SDI module attachment. Now if Canon had a device like that
there would be on top again. For me only 3 thinks, 1080p Raw, 60 or 120 fps and proper intermediate codec like ProRes 4444.
Title: Re: Vote your 5 desired features for upcoming Canon FF camera
Post by: Audionut on April 14, 2014, 02:36:49 AM
16bit processing
Quiet downstream electronics
More megapickels
12 fps capture
Direct collaboration between Canon and ML.  Including full codebase and technical documents.
Title: Re: Vote your 5 desired features for upcoming Canon FF camera
Post by: dmilligan on April 14, 2014, 03:03:03 AM
Just cheap, like less than $1k. That's the only way I could get one. Anything else would be gravy.
Title: Re: Vote your 5 desired features for upcoming Canon FF camera
Post by: Monsanto on April 14, 2014, 03:32:02 AM
4k is overrated. Yes it does help but 1080p with a high bit depth and higher fps is more important than 4K with a wimpy 8/10 bit codec :(. This new camera also needs some type of heat dispersion since Canon DSLR's that shoot RAW heat up after 15mins and lead to ugly noise. Must have uncompressed HDMI out or utilize 3GSDI out to get a better codec with something like Atomos or Gemini.
Title: Re: Vote your 5 desired features for upcoming Canon FF camera
Post by: thehadgi on April 25, 2014, 10:52:10 PM

Quote from: Audionut on April 14, 2014, 02:36:49 AMmegapickels

Hehe :)
Title: Re: Vote your 5 desired features for upcoming Canon FF camera
Post by: Markus on April 25, 2014, 11:54:56 PM
Global shutter!
Title: Re: Vote your 5 desired features for upcoming Canon FF camera
Post by: Marsu42 on April 26, 2014, 02:06:45 AM
Other: drop video and release a cheaper stills-only camera :->
Title: Re: Vote your 5 desired features for upcoming Canon FF camera
Post by: tron on April 26, 2014, 03:54:16 AM
Other:

1. THE OBVIOUS: Lower Noise / Increased DR.
2. Exposure Compensation with Auto ISO in Manual Mode (Just like 1Dx)
3. Minimum shutter 1/8000 (instead of current 1/250)  in Auto ISO Manual Mode (Just like 1Dx)
4. 8fps
Title: Re: Vote your 5 desired features for upcoming Canon FF camera
Post by: tron on April 26, 2014, 03:56:43 AM
Quote from: Marsu42 on April 26, 2014, 02:06:45 AM
Other: drop video and release a cheaper stills-only camera :->
+1 but (almost) 1Dx like fast with very low noise and huge DR  :)