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Title: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: pobox on April 11, 2014, 02:09:02 PM
Hi there,

I just noticed komputerbay released 3 new cards @1066x, a 64GB, 128GB and a 256GB. They claim 155mb/s writing speed, which is faster then their 1200x card.

has anyone experience with this card sofar?

Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: PressureFM on April 11, 2014, 03:08:34 PM
Logic would mandate that if they are just released, how could any have tried them yet?

Although I do believe someone on this forum actually "beta"-tested some of the cards prior to the official release.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: KMikhail on April 11, 2014, 06:58:46 PM
Well, I got one - 1066x 128GB (really prefer 128GB for documentaries).

My stats for movie mode @ 1080P 24FPS:
85mb writing with not super consistent beginning (sometimes it skips frames, FAILED 150,  queued 1 as of testing it right now).

I really hoped for more, it gives me 115mb/s and 150mb/s in playback mode.

Debating if I should return it for a new one.

Any suggestions/ideas mates?
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Markus on April 11, 2014, 07:49:16 PM
If It is faster than 1050x I would advise to check your settings thoroughly, chances are bigger that your problem lies there than on the card. Make sure your card is formatted in exfat and that, you activate large files xfat setting in raw/mlv menu. Also make sure you disabled all settings that take up buffer memory.

Note also that mlv might be more at the edge on being stable than raw rec.

Also have you benchmarked the card outside of the of the camera? If so what speeds on which reader do you reach there?
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: KMikhail on April 11, 2014, 08:16:55 PM
Yup, I checked everything.

I kept GLOBAL DRAW ON for focus peaking and framing. Writing is around 85mb/s, starting out with red/yellow and if it doesn't stop due to skipped frames in a few seconds, it will continue beyond 20+ minutes, 120+ GB. However, with failed/re-queued frames. I need sound, so it is mlv only, 10Apr revision.

I found throughout the forum, that the fastest 32GB Lexar cards can punch through 100mb/s, and 64GB Komputerbay on average can do almost the same. Thus, hoped to get into 90mb/s range, since it was designated with 155mb/s (I understand the caveat with KB cards). Just need to make a decision regarding that particular card.

My ultimate hope was for 1080P 30fps, albeit in spanning mode, but, apparently, card struggles with 1080P 24fps and spanning doesn't help a whole lot.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: KMikhail on April 11, 2014, 08:18:20 PM
In my Kingston USB 3.0 CrystalDiskMark gave me 136 and 111 mb/s for reading and writing, correspondingly.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: pobox on April 12, 2014, 01:20:05 PM
can anyone upload their benchmarks here (in movie mode 1920x1080 25fps and 24fps with mlv sound?)

in 25fps 1080p i get writing speeds in movie mode up to 91 mb/s with the 64gb 1000x kb card.
Hopefully the 1066x is faster!

thanks,
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Markus on April 12, 2014, 06:48:59 PM
Quote from: KMikhail on April 11, 2014, 08:18:20 PM
In my Kingston USB 3.0 CrystalDiskMark gave me 136 and 111 mb/s for reading and writing, correspondingly.

Interesting, in my experience you get stable 25p Raw rec with kb cards that benchmark 115mb write in CrystalDiskmark. Thats what my 64gb cards benchmark. My 256GB 1200x card is stable at 25p but haven't been able to benchmark that card in the same card reader because the kingston does not support 256gb cards...
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: KMikhail on April 12, 2014, 11:01:12 PM
Well, it is not good for me and I have contacted KB for a replacement. Though, their response was kind of strange - they didn't send me RMA# and form to fill out, just 'how we can help you'.

Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Midphase on April 13, 2014, 07:09:27 PM
I don't get it, so the 1066X cards seem to yield the same exact results as the 1000X cards....what's the point?
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: KMikhail on April 14, 2014, 01:45:30 AM
The selling point?  :D
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: MGerard on April 14, 2014, 10:53:30 AM
I have been using the 1066x 128 GB Komputerbay CFs (I think I had three or four different ones) but the raw recording performance was even more inconsistent than with the 1000x I own. Quite disappointing, but you get what you pay for. I am working with SanDisk Extreme Pro 160 MB/s since two months and they're the first CFs that work reliably for 1080 25p acquisition. Interestingly, there is a performance difference between ExFAT and FAT, which is way more reliable.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: xvince1 on April 14, 2014, 05:48:09 PM
Just to be precise about KB cards. I have had 6/7 of them and my main card is an old (june 2013) 128GB 1000x. With this one, I have consistent results, but there's some issue depending on parameters and fork I use. Sometimes, for what reason, it starts with a maxed 25-30MB/s for a while, and will become consistent after 30 seconds @ 65mb/s...

My point is that it depend on :

- first : space available on the card (fragmentation if you prefer)
- alignement of the partitions
- FAT type
- Card / DSLR / ambient temperatures
- ML release
- Parameters (liveview / modules loaded /  hacks etc etc) on ML

We can handle that there's some issues with recent Compact Flash, depending on UDMA controller and some USB card readers can definitively damage some cards (I got two 128GB deadly damaged with my old USB2 reader).
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: pv25pv on April 15, 2014, 12:25:24 AM
maybe you burnt this one too coz consistent speed @65 doesnt sound too right whatever the parameter lol those KB cards are building a career in ML forum...maybe ill w8 for the 1200 ones...for now i think the 1000s 64 are the most reliable and u wont get any better result with 1050,1066,1099
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: xvince1 on April 15, 2014, 09:30:27 AM
oh yes, I forgot: it depends on DSLR you're using... on 5D2, it's very difficult to get more than 65 with 128GB card... Some bench have been done last summer on 5D2, and the best buy for the bucks for the mk2, are the 64Gb 1000x because of internal controller limits. Even 1200x are limiting. (there's difference in crop mode where we can reach better bitrates)

I precise that 65 mb/s give me consistent results @ 2.20 format  (1880x854 24p continuous) As I don't use ML bench because for bitrates capabilities
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: pobox on April 16, 2014, 01:59:18 PM
I received the 64gb 1066x today, unfortunately it has the same benchmark as the 1000x
Same controller chip, it looks like only the sticker is diffrent.
Will send it back to amazon....
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: xvince1 on April 17, 2014, 02:01:23 PM
I just orderer an 128Gb 1066x and hope to reach the 64Gb's 1000x capabilities on 5D2 with this 1066x. In fact, I believe it depend heavily on the DSLR you use, maybe the difference on 5D3 will be more importante between 64 1000x & 1066x.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: KMikhail on April 18, 2014, 12:52:55 AM
I tried 3x   128gb 1066x - all are about the same, pretty tightly.

Just installed 1.1.3 firmware and ML, it bumped up my writing rates by 2-3 mb/s (85-90mb/s, GD ON, movie). But 30fps 1080P with spanning still doesn't work (MLV).

Frames still get re-queued.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: xvince1 on April 18, 2014, 03:01:04 PM
Quote from: KMikhail on April 18, 2014, 12:52:55 AM
I tried 3x   128gb 1066x - all are about the same, pretty tightly.

Just installed 1.1.3 firmware and ML, it bumped up my writing rates by 2-3 mb/s (85-90mb/s, GD ON, movie). But 30fps 1080P with spanning still doesn't work (MLV).

Frames still get re-queued.

You're on 5D3 ? Hope to reach 75-80Mb/s on 5D2 comparing to 65MB/s with my old 128Gb 1000x
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: KMikhail on April 18, 2014, 03:54:56 PM
Yes, 5d3.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: pobox on April 18, 2014, 08:00:11 PM
Can you continous record 25fps 1080p with the 128gb 1066x?
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: KMikhail on April 19, 2014, 09:48:07 AM
sometimes i could, sometimes i could not, regardless of warm up. same went for 1920*1152 24fps.
i'll order 64 cards to see how they do.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: xvince1 on April 24, 2014, 11:59:42 AM
Anyone tried the new 256Gb 1066x ? I contact KB support and they tell me the 256 is 5D2 compatible but I want to be shure there's no issue before ordering one (400$)
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Markus on April 24, 2014, 04:54:35 PM
Im curious how the 1066x 256GB benchmarks vs the 1200x 256GB version. My 1200x 256 card has been very reliable and im wondering if there is any point of choosing the 1066x 256gb card over the 1200x which is cheeper...
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: KB TechSupport on April 25, 2014, 02:04:30 PM
Hello Folks,

We have recently had a lot of demand for the 256GB cards. Since the 1200X is always BO'd for 2-3 months - we were finally able launched the other versions of the 256GB cards. While the basic problem is still with being able to access the card outside the camera - we have had quite a bit of success with the 5DM2 and the 5DM3. You can check the benchmark:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91RVau1mlvL._SL1500_.jpg

It is bootable and we were able to achieve continuous on both the 5DM2 and the 5DM3 at 1920X1080 on the 5DM3.

The cards can only be read by a Lexar UDMA7 USB 3.0 Dual Slot, Transcend UDMA7 USB 3.0 reader and the Sandisk UDMA7 USB 3.0 reader. All others readers have not been updated to read 256GB cards. The other readers will format the card to a ~132GB card.

Regards,
Tech Support
KB
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Markus on April 25, 2014, 03:12:09 PM
So is that benchmark from 1066x card?

Quote from: KB TechSupport on April 25, 2014, 02:04:30 PM
Hello Folks,

We have recently had a lot of demand for the 256GB cards. Since the 1200X is always BO'd for 2-3 months - we were finally able launched the other versions of the 256GB cards. While the basic problem is still with being able to access the card outside the camera - we have had quite a bit of success with the 5DM2 and the 5DM3. You can check the benchmark:
So is that benchmark from 1066x card?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91RVau1mlvL._SL1500_.jpg

It is bootable and we were able to achieve continuous on both the 5DM2 and the 5DM3 at 1920X1080 on the 5DM3.

The cards can only be read by a Lexar UDMA7 USB 3.0 Dual Slot, Transcend UDMA7 USB 3.0 reader and the Sandisk UDMA7 USB 3.0 reader. All others readers have not been updated to read 256GB cards. The other readers will format the card to a ~132GB card.

Regards,
Tech Support
KB
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: KB TechSupport on April 25, 2014, 05:42:03 PM
Hello,

Yes - that is from the 256GB 1066X UDMA7 in playback mode.

To Benchmark you card properly for MAX speed compatible with ML:
1. Go to ML and turn OFF Global Draw
2. Do not test while LV is active, meaning not in video mode or photo with Live View Mode.  This is refereed to testing in Playback mode
3. Make sure your Camera Auto Power off is disabled in Canon menu.
4. Go to the ML menu and find the Debug menu and then the Benchmark, and select Card R/W benchmark (5min)
When the benchmark has finished ML will automatically record the bitmap image in your card.

Regards,

Tech Support
KB
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Nang on April 27, 2014, 12:52:51 AM
I just received my 1066x 128gb card. Not sure if I'm testing this right, but here are some benchmarks.


(http://s11.postimg.org/3m2290aur/KB_1066_video.jpg)

(http://s21.postimg.org/ruzpndh3r/KB_1066_playback.jpg)
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: pobox on April 27, 2014, 01:24:46 PM
I did some further testing and it appears that the 64gb 1066x is way more reliable then the 1000x!

I am using:
5d3, 1920x1080 25fps MLV+sound WITH HDMI viewfinder connected! GD off

1066x 64gb
does continously record 25fps without ever skipping frames/stopping!!
It never stopped yet!


1000x 64gb
does record 25fps continously, however it stops every now and then. You never know when and if.

1066 128GB
this one can actually record 25fps 1080p, but 50% change it will stop by skipping a frame. This can happen after a few sec or after 12 minutues or so. you never know...
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: xvince1 on April 28, 2014, 01:41:37 PM
There's something very strange about performance with 128GB cards.

It's obvious that we can't compare 256GB to 64GB reliability. It's like all 128GB cards have some issues to achieve good performance continuously. Maybe there's something like SSD's nand module, with pair number of Nand modules connected to controller ? Maybe not the same type of RAM used

Perhaps KB support can clear it up, in asking directly factory engineering staff ?

I'd like to bought 1000x 64Gb, but It's not cheap and really short to record about 15Min on just one card a time. In fact, I use something like 90 Gb for one session
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Markus on April 29, 2014, 02:55:54 AM
256GB 1200x is stable for mlv full hd with sound on my mk III... thats 47 minutes of raw on one card =)

Quote from: xvince1 on April 28, 2014, 01:41:37 PM
There's something very strange about performance with 128GB cards.

It's obvious that we can't compare 256GB to 64GB reliability. It's like all 128GB cards have some issues to achieve good performance continuously. Maybe there's something like SSD's nand module, with pair number of Nand modules connected to controller ? Maybe not the same type of RAM used

Perhaps KB support can clear it up, in asking directly factory engineering staff ?

I'd like to bought 1000x 64Gb, but It's not cheap and really short to record about 15Min on just one card a time. In fact, I use something like 90 Gb for one session
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: arturochu on April 29, 2014, 03:53:18 AM
Quote from: Markus on April 29, 2014, 02:55:54 AM
256GB 1200x is stable for mlv full hd with sound on my mk III... thats 47 minutes of raw on one card =)

can you make a benchmark test with the 1200x like kbsupport suggested?
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: pobox on April 29, 2014, 10:51:08 AM
will a canon DSLR (5d3) recognize a 256GB as 256GB?
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: PressureFM on April 29, 2014, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: pobox on April 29, 2014, 10:51:08 AM
will a canon DSLR (5d3) recognize a 256GB as 256GB?

If it is formatted as ExFat, then yes.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: KMikhail on May 02, 2014, 12:00:07 AM
Apparently:

a) Benchmark performance on 5D3 is somewhat different from actual recording performance (TS cards, barely around 80mb/s in rec mode, but can do 24fps).

b) 128 GB cards suffer in the department of speed vs. 64 GB cards and particularly with respect to consistency.

c) I've seen numbers for KB 128 1050x posted by KB on amazon as high as 134MB/s write and in my opinion that would be a true beast (toms hardware highest is 129mb/s for 64GB cards and they tried many readers too), but I didn't have anything approaching these numbers for KB 1066x or TS 1000x in a proper setting (w8 and U7, or 5D3 that can read in excess of 150mb/s).

I am debating if i should go for an expensive card. Obviously, I need to evaluate how much I like (and need) rawvideo, but will I get the performance I need from SanDisk 160mb/s and Lexar 1066x? Unfortunately there is no nice table of how many people have tested a specific card and kind of speed they got (people tend to report when they are strongly unsatisfied, seeking assistance, but not so often when they got what works for them).

I've read somewhere here that 30fps is possible with expensive cards and the question is - how dependable is it?
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: pobox on May 02, 2014, 10:59:24 AM
I noticed the kb 256gb 1200x has slower writhing speeds then the 256gb 1066x.
Did anyone test both?
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Markus on May 02, 2014, 05:57:51 PM
Quote from: pobox on May 02, 2014, 10:59:24 AM
I noticed the kb 256gb 1200x has slower writhing speeds then the 256gb 1066x.
Did anyone test both?

On paper yes but I don't think it's been tested by ml community yet.
I'll do a benchmark on my 1200x next week and post.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Sapphiron on May 05, 2014, 03:15:17 PM
Hello everyone!

Recently I bought KomputerBay 128GB 1066x CF and don't know if it's ok or broken...

Is this benchmark good or bad?  :'(

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59705033/bench01.jpg)
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Markus on May 06, 2014, 01:53:00 AM
Quote from: Sapphiron on May 05, 2014, 03:15:17 PM
Hello everyone!

Recently I bought KomputerBay 128GB 1066x CF and don't know if it's ok or broken...

Is this benchmark good or bad?  :'(

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59705033/bench01.jpg)

looks good!? MLV full hd plus sound stable?
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Sapphiron on May 06, 2014, 09:31:53 AM
Quote from: Markus on May 06, 2014, 01:53:00 AM
looks good!? MLV full hd plus sound stable?

For now just raw_rec mode on. no sound. Well i'm quite a noob in ML so...
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Aryan on May 12, 2014, 12:54:27 AM
Quote from: Sapphiron on May 05, 2014, 03:15:17 PM
Hello everyone!

Recently I bought KomputerBay 128GB 1066x CF and don't know if it's ok or broken...

Is this benchmark good or bad?  :'(


Hi, I got Komputerbay 128gb  1050X and I get very similar reading as yours ,got a 64gb 1050X and it performs much better
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Markus on May 20, 2014, 07:11:48 PM
Benchmark of my 1200x card for comparison:

Liveview off
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zNBqUljiPraZlYjeaUjkf64NEiPszFA3LSKNZAEFRwI=w338-h225-p-no)

Liveview on
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/AgJ1eI-cVMfKUIevVBDAJ13Rpbd4KvNt699eojEwEz0=w338-h225-p-no)

Benchmark of my 1066x card:

Liveview off
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jt5tyyhLVcISzi0Do54W_6CPOi9QrwowlfK2DcRjUqI=w338-h225-p-no)

Liveview on
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/CqxnLt8jEXbg6Gr1-qwFXURxwVl3ayvbgfTsRolcpIQ=w338-h225-p-no)
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Markus on May 20, 2014, 07:13:52 PM
Ordered a 1066x 256GB today as well, Will try that one out when it arrives.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: arturochu on May 20, 2014, 09:01:15 PM
Quote from: Markus on May 20, 2014, 07:13:52 PM
Ordered a 1066x 256GB today as well, Will try that one out when it arrives.

would be nice to have a directo comparision between 1066x and 1200x speed.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Sapphiron on May 21, 2014, 12:16:25 PM
Quote from: Markus on May 20, 2014, 07:11:48 PM
Benchmark of my 1200x card for comparison:

Liveview off
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bvvQu4wqRjI/U3uMHebPQsI/AAAAAAAACKc/tbc2O0KCNIY/w720-h480-no/KB+1200x+256GB+BENCH1.jpg)

Liveview on
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-OT1IY9Li5Lw/U3uMHcFD8_I/AAAAAAAACKg/BUm6mj0M6Rc/w720-h480-no/KB+1200x+256GB+BENCH2.jpg)

Well, looking at this benchmark I think that my 128Gb 1066x is not so bad after all...
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Sapphiron on May 21, 2014, 02:22:00 PM
Fresh benchmark
128Gb 1066x
1920x1080p@25fps
5d Mark III

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59705033/DSC_0499.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59705033/DSC_0500.jpg)
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Markus on May 21, 2014, 04:10:22 PM
Is the first one with live view on an the second with it turned off?
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Sapphiron on May 21, 2014, 05:49:17 PM
1st is in movie mode 2nd in playback. You have all showed on screen ;)
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Markus on May 29, 2014, 01:58:51 AM
Just got my new 256gb 1066x KB cf card  the other day.  Initial tests look good, full hd mlv + sound @ 25fps no problem. 1920x1280 raw @ 25fps also continious with sound deactivated in canon menu.
Moore testing to be done!
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: handbanana on May 29, 2014, 05:15:11 PM
Quote from: pobox on April 27, 2014, 01:24:46 PM
I did some further testing and it appears that the 64gb 1066x is way more reliable then the 1000x!

I am using:
5d3, 1920x1080 25fps MLV+sound WITH HDMI viewfinder connected! GD off

1066x 64gb
does continously record 25fps without ever skipping frames/stopping!!
It never stopped yet!


1000x 64gb
does record 25fps continously, however it stops every now and then. You never know when and if.

1066 128GB
this one can actually record 25fps 1080p, but 50% change it will stop by skipping a frame. This can happen after a few sec or after 12 minutues or so. you never know...

This is exactly the comparison I wanted to see, as 64gb seems to perform better than 128gb at any speed, and 256gb is out of the director's budget for the film I'm DP-ing. I have two 64gb 1000X that work pretty well on my 50D, but we need to grab two more cards for the 5Dmk3 we'll also be shooting on, and 1066x seems to be, based on your test, the best bet for consistent 5D3 performance. Plus, at the end of the day I'll get to keep them and use them on my 50D (and maybe a 5D3 in the future). :)

Thanks for your testing!
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Markus on June 01, 2014, 11:17:23 PM
Updated with Benchmark of my 1066x card!  :D

Quote from: Markus on May 20, 2014, 07:11:48 PM
Benchmark of my 1200x card for comparison:

Liveview off
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zNBqUljiPraZlYjeaUjkf64NEiPszFA3LSKNZAEFRwI=w338-h225-p-no)

Liveview on
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/AgJ1eI-cVMfKUIevVBDAJ13Rpbd4KvNt699eojEwEz0=w338-h225-p-no)

Benchmark of my 1066x card:

Liveview off
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jt5tyyhLVcISzi0Do54W_6CPOi9QrwowlfK2DcRjUqI=w338-h225-p-no)

Liveview on
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/CqxnLt8jEXbg6Gr1-qwFXURxwVl3ayvbgfTsRolcpIQ=w338-h225-p-no)
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: pobox on June 07, 2014, 10:40:12 AM
I am starting to get corrupted frames with these cards, both the 64gb and 256gb.
Im using the 5d3 on 1.2.3 with ml build 16th of april.

In almost evry shot i get a few pink lines in a single frame. they are all horizontal on diffrent positions.
I will upload a few frames later

I got the corrupted frames after copying the files via usb3 cardreader to usb seagate expansion Hard drive. MLV Files on the cards seems to be fine though. I will start another topic on this subject.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: slicKrox on July 21, 2014, 12:29:32 AM
Quote from: Markus on June 01, 2014, 11:17:23 PM
Updated with Benchmark of my 1066x card!  :D
Hy Markus, 1066x you used 64 or 128gb? Thanks.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Markus on July 21, 2014, 01:05:21 AM
256gb KB card =D
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: slicKrox on July 21, 2014, 02:11:18 PM
256gb out of my budget :) I have one 64gb card, but with my shooting style, its not enough, especially when I'm traveling. I seen some good benchmarks from Komputerbay 1066x cards. Somebody mentioned, that 64gb is faster, but 128gb for slightly higher price - very tempting. Probably the best decision would be: to get two of them and to keep best one :)
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Markus on July 21, 2014, 06:17:33 PM
As you say the 128gb cards have been known to be slower. I'm not sure if this applyes to the cards in 1066x series as well. I don't have any experience of 128gb 1066x cards.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: jimmyD30 on July 21, 2014, 07:45:35 PM
I just ordered 2 KB 64GB 1066x CF cards, I'll post results for 5DM3 once I get them.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: WagnerWerneck on August 11, 2014, 07:47:22 PM
I use 2 64GB Komputerbay 1000x to record 1920x1080 at 24fps with my 5Dm3 with no problem, if I try 30fps I get drop frame in 3 seconds or less, and I want to buy mode CF cards, does any one knows if the 1050x or 1066x Komputerbay cards are really faster then 1000x?  If it is possible to record 30fps?  Thanks
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: jimmyD30 on August 18, 2014, 12:42:43 AM
Komputerbay 64GB 1066x CF on Canon 5D3.123 @ 24fps

(http://filehosting.procypher.com/free/20140817/IMG_1642.JPG)
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: rawvideo on December 31, 2014, 03:25:15 PM
I got two 128GB cards, one 1055 and one 1066, both are at 85MBs in writing. Thats 1920x1080 with 25fps and sound stable so far.

But its not the advertised speed of the card. For slow motion shots it would be great to get a faster one, haven't decided yet if i should order some more for testing.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Markus on December 31, 2014, 03:37:40 PM
The 128gb cards are not as stable as 64gb and 256gb versions for some unknown reason...
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: rawvideo on December 31, 2014, 04:32:30 PM
But the 128 ist the best value for the price both 64 and 256 cost more per GB.

I guess no one has seen a 5DM3 writing more than 100MBs but it would be great to max out my cameras capabilities with the memory card.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: rawvideo on January 10, 2015, 06:21:20 PM
This is so annoying, the 64GB cards are almost as expensive as the 128GB. And if they actually are faster I would only use them for high frame rate stuff since my 128GB card works fine for normal 25 frames 1080p.

But the high frame rate stuff of course needs more space. So I wouldn't get much onto the smaller card.
Title: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 10, 2015, 08:10:31 PM
Maybe it's just me but I've been a happy camper with these KB 128gb 1066x cards that I've been using on my 5D3 the past several months.

I can get continuous 24,25p 1080p in MLV w sound.

30p with slightly less resolution ( 1920x1038 ) to get continuous in MLV w sound. (otherwise I can push it to 2-3 minutes (about 2200-2500+ frames) before dropped frames @ full 1080p)

This was all done with HaCKeD preview enabled.

Also be sure your cards are in exFAT!  ;D
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: rawvideo on January 10, 2015, 08:31:12 PM
If you have the time, what seq. write speed do you get with CrystalDiskMark on your 128gb card?
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 13, 2015, 08:12:19 AM
sorry @rawvideo -- I'm not on Windows... Only on Mac and I have done Benchmarks on it severals weeks ago as well.

Feel free to check it out... (though BM was done with Oct 7th build at the time)

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12630.msg133459#msg133459

Not sure if a new BM test with latest nightly would actually make a difference?

@a1ex -- worth to try?
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: rawvideo on January 13, 2015, 04:00:00 PM
Just tried my second Komputerbay 128GB 1066x. Its also not faster than my 1050 128GB Komputerbay.

It also doesnt go beyond 1920x1080 25fps  and 1600x560 with 50fps in continuous recording.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 13, 2015, 08:06:26 PM
How could the 1050x be faster than 1066x?

Did you BM both of them in your camera?

Are you using the 5D3 as well?

If so, which firmware are you currently using?
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: rawvideo on January 13, 2015, 11:30:25 PM
Yes 5D3 with 123.

Its not faster, the first 1066 card I got was the same speed as the 1050 I got before that.

I benchmark with CrystalDiskMark on the PC. Actually that newest 1066 card is 4 Mbit faster than the first. But the first 1066 was as fast as the 1050 (84 MBit seq writing)..also 1050 and 1066 isn't that big a difference. Still these cards are advertised with a 100Mbit writing speed.

In the camera I only check if get to record continuously in a higher resolution (thats all that matters) in comparison to the other card.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 15, 2015, 08:27:56 AM
@rawvideo -- What's the highest MB/s  you can push on your 5D3 w the KB 128gb 1066x?
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: rawvideo on January 16, 2015, 08:33:46 PM
Well the internal Benchmark with everything (GD, Liveview) off shows this:


QuoteBenchmark complete.
ML Nightly.2014Rug07.5D3123, ffdld533b1dc (5D3-123) tip
Mode: playback, Global Draw: OFF
CF MI Corporation SILICONMOTION SM2236RB
Write speed (buffer=16384k): 118.8 MB/s
Read speed (buffer=16384k):   152.8 MB/s
Write speed (buffer=16384k): 114.9 MB/s
Read speed (buffer=16384k):   152.8 MB/s
Write speed (buffer=15625k): 119.5 MB/s
Read speed (buffer=15625k):   152.9 MB/s
Write speed (buffer=4096k): 112.4 MB/s
Read speed (buffer=4096k):   141.1 MB/s
Write speed (buffer=3906k): 181.8 MB/s
Read speed (buffer=3906k):   139.2 MB/s
Write speed (buffer=2048k): 183.8 MB/s
Read speed (buffer=2048k):   128.8 MB/s
Write speed (buffer=1953k): 87.6 MB/s
Read speed (buffer=1953k):   123.9 MB/s
Write speed (buffer=128k): 32.4 MB/s
Read speed (buffer=128k):   34.9 MB/s
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 17, 2015, 06:58:02 AM
I meant during recording... like take a snapshot of your 5D3 while recording either RAW or MLV... (hence Raw can push to higher MB/s than MLV)

For example: 5D3 (1.1.3) RAW Crop-Mode (HaCKeD preview) @ 30fps (FPS Override to 25p) -- This one is pushing @ 109.6 MB/s with a KB 128gb 1066x card...

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8582/16207497391_183e2d81a5_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qGcEjc)

Do you think mine card is just as bad as yours if not the same?
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: rawvideo on January 17, 2015, 09:16:53 AM
I dont see the use of this, that number is always changing. So that wouldn't be very accurate.

Also no significant difference between MLV and Raw for me. Both do 7 seconds of 1920x672 50fps.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 17, 2015, 09:43:40 AM
sure it is (depending on settings) always changing within that range is still pretty darn good for a cheap fast card as far as I'm concerned.

If you want more... try testing out the KB 256gb 1200x series?

I haven't so I can't speak for that.

correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: draco on January 24, 2015, 12:37:52 AM
Edit: nevermind this was my HD DOH!

Just got this card yesterday; benchmark looks too fast, any settings I should check? Its a Komputerbay 1066x 32GB. Used a Kingston FCR-HS3 USB3.0 reader.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V7img_DwPDU/VMLZ2CcysuI/AAAAAAAAEgc/1UOraclr7Qc/w416-h379-no/KOMPUTERBAY%2B1066X%2B32GB.jpg)
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 24, 2015, 12:41:47 AM
I'm pretty sure you benchmarked your local drive C: ... ;-)
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: draco on January 24, 2015, 12:42:32 AM
Ok here is the actual benchmark for anyone interested, Komputerbay 1066x 32GB. Used a Kingston FCR-HS3 USB3.0 reader. Have a 50D coming in the mail shortly so I'll finally be able to play with ML. I might sell my early firmware 70D.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LfHttDT5lv0/VMLd6yq1zpI/AAAAAAAAEhI/AVrhX0i8zvg/w416-h379-no/Untitled.jpg)
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: sines on December 16, 2015, 06:24:50 AM
Just bought 2 128GB 1066x Komputer Bay CF cards. In OSX 10.10.5 Yosemite the finder / Disk Utility only sees the cards as 64GB. Formatted via exFat several times and the same results, in addition to reformatting in my 1.1.3 Firmware Canon 5D MK III.

from Disk Utility:
NS-DCR30A2 Media   Total Capacity :   64.03 GB (64,030,244,864 Bytes)
Connection Bus :   USB   Write Status :   Read/Write
Connection Type :   External   S.M.A.R.T. Status :   Not Supported
USB Serial Number :   150326021335   Partition Map Scheme :   Master Boot Record

Mount Point :   /Volumes/EOS128_01   Capacity :   64.03 GB (64,030,243,840 Bytes)
Format :   ExFAT   Available :   64.02 GB (64,018,317,312 Bytes)
Owners Enabled :   No   Used :   8.7 MB (8,650,752 Bytes)
Number of Folders :   0   Number of Files :   66
Insignia [Best Buy] USB ns-dcr30a2 CF Card reader

Wondering if the card reader is somehow limiting the available size to be formatted.. but that just doesn't make sense.

Possibly they were mislabeled at the factory, or is this a known issue?


thx!
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: sines on December 16, 2015, 06:36:03 AM
checked the black imprint on the side of the card.. it's indeed a 64GB card. F*ckers.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Walter Schulz on December 16, 2015, 06:46:05 AM
Contact KB support.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 16, 2015, 07:42:55 AM
Their customer services are decent. Should have no problems getting them exchanged.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: dfort on December 16, 2015, 04:14:18 PM
I just posted in another topic that their QC seems to have improved over the years. KB cards are like that Errol Morris documentary. Fast, Cheap and Out of Control.
Title: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 23, 2016, 02:37:59 AM
@KB TechSupport-

After about a year or so of success with ML RAW recording continuous on my 5D3 with your CF cards.

Until today I just wanted to clean a KB 128 GB 1066x CF card as usual after each shoot and all of a sudden it won't let me erase to exFAT anymore through Disk Utility. Card becomes unrecognized in camera and only works if I FORMAT in camera but obviously need the exFAT for my work.

With my other cards it formats into exFAT via Disk Utility just fine but not this one in particular.

Have you seen this behavior on your end before?

Thanks for your amazing products as they have served me well!
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: KB TechSupport on May 23, 2016, 10:47:19 AM
Please try this if you have a UDMA7 compatible USB 3.0 reader:

How to check if the card is corrupted in Windows/Mac:
Download SD Formatter for Windows/Mac: (SDformatter works for all CF/SD/MicroSD cards)
https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_4/
If the software reports that the card is less than 64MB (not GB) then the card is corrupted  and is unrecoverable using card reader.
If the software reports that the card is more than 64MB (not GB) then the card is recoverable using card reader.
Please format it but click option >> format size option = on. The others you can leave at default.

Tech Support
Komputerbay
Title: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 23, 2016, 06:54:42 PM
@KB TechSupport-

As usual, Thanks for your prompt response and here are the results.

Downloaded SDFormatter (Thanks for that) and followed your instructions easily, however, there was a step that doesn't give me the same options as you described.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7415/26922249100_4cee1942a8_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/H22yGC) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7361/26922249360_e26bed4374_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/H22yM7)

So I just decided to leave it at 'No' and proceed with 'Quick Format' (supposedly to Format the card quickly without erasing data) and fortunately I had already backed up the files because it actually Formatted the card completely (Data was Erased) which I thought was strange. No big deal!

Incidentally, I didn't need to use Disk Utility since it was already formatted into exFAT assuming from the SDFormatter and then ejected the CF card out.

Took few test clips at long takes just to be sure exFAT was responding properly on the 5D3 and fortunately it seems to be back to normal working condition atm.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7458/26922249550_6d6da6381c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/H22yQo)

Excellent save, @KB TechSupport and as soon as my birthday comes up around the corner (May 30th) which then I should be able to order another bundle of the 4-pack KB 128GB 1066x as those cards have always rocked my socks!

*Edit*

After thinking thoroughly with regards on how this particular CF card was 'corrupted' -- It was actually used in a Sound Device audio recording device (that I rented) which also has built in CF slots. I also remember that I had to do a Format inside this device because it wouldn't recognize the card as an exFAT.

Lesson learned ... Probably should have just used my other brand cards (such as Sandisk or Lexus) for that and use all the precious KB cards for 5D3.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 10, 2016, 11:04:45 PM
@KB TechSupport-

Thanks again for your incredible customer service on top of your wonderful products. I just received my first set of 256GB 1066x CF cards and I am happy to report that it is possible to format in camera and STILL be able to keep the exFAT -- can be useful for certain situations.

However, I have noticed that when I looked to see how much the 5D3 can actually read the available GB space with an empty fresh card which only shows 238GB in camera (from Canon Menu > Format card > info) and then once I place this card into cardreader and can confirm that it shows 256GB avail. 

Has anyone else encountered something similar or is this to be expected (even while running 1.2.3 on 5D3) as I understand that it has to be the latest Firmware in order for the 5D3 to properly read large CF cards (meaning 1.3.3?) or is there another solution to this?
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 10, 2016, 11:15:23 PM
256 GB = 256,000,000,000 Bytes

256,000,000,000 Bytes = 250,000,000 kiByte (1 kiByte = 1024 Byte)
250,000,000 kiBytes = 244,140.625 MiByte (1 MiByte = 1024 kiByte = 1024 x 1024 Byte)
244,140.625 MiBytes = 238.4185791015625 GiByte (1 GiByte = 1024 MiByte = 1024 x 1024 kiByte = 1024 x 1024 x 1024 Byte)
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 11, 2016, 01:31:22 AM
Meaning this is normal and to be expected?

If so, Thanks @Walter Schulz and does this also mean recording is going to stop @ the 238GB mark rather than 256GB, correct?
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: noipego on October 11, 2016, 01:11:44 PM
i just checked in Amazon UK & DE to buy another set of KB cards and i see the price of 128gb 1066x is now 175euro!!!!
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 11, 2016, 01:32:05 PM
That's rather strange. Amazon USA: 90.99 USD.
Title: Re: Komputerbay 1066x series just released
Post by: noipego on October 11, 2016, 04:46:19 PM
ok they said they are having stocking issues in .uk & de..all other amazon stores sell normal price