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Title: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: Alfazzz on March 26, 2014, 04:33:12 PM
Hi,
it's been a while that I seek to monitor my 5d2 on Ipad, and i found a month ago this little freeware app for IOS (and Android) that provides especially this function. Unfortunately, there were some flicker on the 5d lcd screen that made the thing useless, the monitoring was ok on the ipad but we could not change any function on the dslr as the lcd goes on and off alternately...
But since the last 22 march update, no more issue, lcd is working as expected in liveview !!! so now i can monitor on my ipad air and have the 5d2 lcd sceen on too, to control my parameters as usually. Really, really nice !!

You need a jailbroken Ipad !
Does not work with RAW video, but it's beta...

i've made a little iphone video to show you that :


And a screenshot off the ipad :
https://www.flickr.com/photos/48701592@N03/13429005275/sizes/z/in/photostream/

QuoteRequirements
A compatible Canon EOS model camera.
Jailbroken iPad. We have tested the iPad 3 and iPad Mini Retina on iOS 7.
Camera Connection Kit. Be sure to get the one that fits your iPad:
30-pin or Lightning
Male full-size USB to male miniUSB cable. This is a very common cable, and the same one you use to connect your camera to your computer. Usually one of these comes with the camera.

More infos here : http://dslrcontroller.com/iOS/
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: Canon eos m on March 26, 2014, 05:08:06 PM
Awesome. What do you mean by jailbroken Ipad?
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: Alfazzz on March 26, 2014, 05:10:15 PM
You need to hack your ipad (jailbreak), takes 5mn...
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: Canon eos m on March 26, 2014, 06:33:12 PM
Please send me a link. Will it work with the old IPAD2?
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: Alfazzz on March 26, 2014, 07:19:36 PM
You can find a lots of howTo on google...
http://evasi0n.com

On the page they speak about ipad3 and mini retina (and the ipad air as i use it), so i don't know for the 2...
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: kichetof on March 26, 2014, 07:32:40 PM
Yeah good news !!

Maybe we will be able to drive magic lantern :)
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: Alfazzz on March 26, 2014, 08:24:34 PM
Quote from: kichetof on March 26, 2014, 07:32:40 PM
Yeah good news !!

Maybe we will be able to drive magic lantern :)
I hope...
My fîrst impression is that is really accurate for focusing, sharp and clear image. When recording starts the framerate goes down to 12 / 15 fps, and 20 / 25 fps when not recording. When you open the review mode or ml interface, the image freezes on the ipad and restarts automaticaly when you close the menu.
For now there is no overlay at all, and no controls, but they are planning to adding them.

Need to find a good tripod mount for my ipad air :))
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: chris_overseas on March 26, 2014, 08:38:47 PM
The iPad version of DSLR Controller is more of a proof of concept than anything and I suspect it might remain like that for some time. The problem is that stock iOS doesn't allow apps any access to devices via USB Host. The only way around that limitation is to jailbreak the iOS device. That means the app can't live in Apple's App Store and will therefore be a niche product that may never be financially viable (the author released this build to see how much interest there is on iOS so he can decide if it's worth pursuing).

The Android version of the app is a whole different beast. It has been under development for a long time now and lets you control you camera in nearly every way possible, download images to your phone/tablet, run advanced bracketing/HDR etc. If you're on iOS and want to get the most out of DSLR Controller I'd suggest picking up a decent but cheap Android tablet (eg Nexus 7) to use with it instead.

Regarding ML-specific features being added to DSLR Controller: That's probably a bit of a long shot but it might happen one day. Chainfire (the author of DSLR Controller) knows about ML, in fact I'm pretty sure he's even modified ML to use for his own research purposes before. There's also another app called ML Controller: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hu.sztupy.android.mlcontroller  (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ml-devel/Sw0B1kpFlIU). It doesn't work with recent builds of ML however the author (SztupY) has expressed a bit of interest in reviving it here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9570.0

Probably the best approach would be to add an API to ML that allows certain functions to be controlled remotely (USB/Wifi), then hope that authors like the above start supporting it. I think it's a big task however.
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: Malex on March 26, 2014, 09:27:12 PM
It's wicked! I bought a lilliput monitor because it wasn't possible back then. The android version sounds cool but I just got me an ipad air so I don't think I'll get an android tablet just for monitoring.
The only problem for monitoring with the ipad is how do you put it on a tripod or a rig..?
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: garry23 on March 26, 2014, 09:39:52 PM
Just an observation. We know that an iPad will connect to a Canon DSLR, eg I have CamRanger running and integrated, in clunky way, into my ML-based workflow, eg for my TS-E workflow:
- connect CamRanger (CR) via USB
- use CR to compose
- use CR to tilt and rotate the plane of sharp focus, ie CR has focus peaking and it is clearer to see focus than on the small MZ focus box in ML
- shift as required
- use ML Auto-ETTR to set the optimum shutter speed
- take picture :-o)

In other words convergence between Canon, CamRanger and Magic Lantern means a content photographer!
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: Alfazzz on March 26, 2014, 10:07:14 PM
Quote from: Malex on March 26, 2014, 09:27:12 PM
It's wicked! I bought a lilliput monitor because it wasn't possible back then. The android version sounds cool but I just got me an ipad air so I don't think I'll get an android tablet just for monitoring.
The only problem for monitoring with the ipad is how do you put it on a tripod or a rig..?

I have a ruige monitor too, but the ipad seems to be a lot more accurate to my eyes, and you can use both monitors at the same time, that´s great because i don't like to have the 5d monitor off when using an external screen.

To put it on a tripod, just buy a mount for ipad :)

And for the jailbreak, yes you have to do it...but hey! don't have you installed ML on your canon dslr ? Same thing here if you want the best for your gear...

I hope they Will add some great features like controls, raw video and ml support...etc, but for now as a simple monitor, it´s a really Nice option !! Love it
Title: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: Malex on March 27, 2014, 08:47:25 AM
My ipad already got out of jail :-) so I'll test it soon!
I just saw videos of the android version, it's really cool! It would be even cooler if it was a ML remote.
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: limey on March 29, 2014, 07:44:58 PM
Been using DSLR Controller on a rooted Kindle for quite some time. I built a homemade case for it too so it can attach to the shoulder rig.

Love DSLR controller when I use it, but I don't use it "that" often.

Interested in trying Cam Ranger with iPad since it has bigger screen and seems like better color depth.
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: garry23 on March 29, 2014, 07:57:52 PM
Limey

Here is a post from my blog that talks to CamRanger.

For example, I used it this morning at the shoot where I took the two snaps I have just posted.

I used CamRanger with my 5DIII + tilt-shift.   The CamRanger, with focus zoom and focus peaking allowed me to nail the focus. As I have said elsewhere on the ML site, if you can't afford CamRanger and don't have an iPad, then ML magic zoom and focus peaking is the next best thing.

Cheers

Garry

http://photography.grayheron.net
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: limey on March 29, 2014, 10:41:42 PM
Halfway through the post. I shoot RE and Architecture timelapse as well. For the RE shoots, cam ranger, I can see coming in very very handy. Also use the 14mm Roki as well with PT Lens correction.
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: DaCraftyFox on June 30, 2014, 03:52:57 PM
You can't get anything else than an extra monitor? There aren't any controlls in your ipad screen... Is it possible to control ISO, aperture, speed? Or it is just live stream to the ipad? Thank you
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: garry23 on June 30, 2014, 04:22:57 PM
Just to be clear. The CamRanger interacts with the EOS and allows near full control and more.

The CamRanger does not 'talk' to ML.
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: Alfazzz on June 30, 2014, 10:45:06 PM
Quote from: DaCraftyFox on June 30, 2014, 03:52:57 PM
You can't get anything else than an extra monitor? There aren't any controlls in your ipad screen... Is it possible to control ISO, aperture, speed? Or it is just live stream to the ipad? Thank you
For now yes, it acts only as monitor, no controls at all...
Dev seems to be more working on the android version than ios, i think there is not enougth interested people...

Hope to have some update soon
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: bloomingworks on July 27, 2015, 09:13:18 AM
does Dslr controller app work with ios 8
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: w1ck on December 01, 2015, 11:16:58 PM
Hi i would like to ask if there are some news in ipad <-> canon dslr (with ml).
I hope that it is not bad when iam replying in old post.
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: Alfazzz on December 02, 2015, 10:48:21 AM
Hi,
unfortunately, there was no updates released for this tweak since the first beta version i mentioned in this post (for ipad). And there will be no update i think...
So no for ios8 and ios9, it only works with ios7 (i'm still with this os version and it's working).
Not very useful finally because no controls but was fun to try :)

You should go with android tablet, you will get lots more controls with this app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=dslr%20controler
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: w1ck on December 02, 2015, 11:34:53 AM
hm thats sad, i like the apple's ipad and atm i have no android device. Thanks for reply anyway and have a good day :]
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: jonathan.grevsen on December 02, 2015, 06:02:23 PM
I use dslr controller with wireless control of 5D M3 and it works with ML
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: Alfazzz on December 05, 2015, 02:12:04 PM
Jonathan, more infos could be useful, your os ? Ipad, android ? Version of dslr controler...
Just saying that is working does not help anybody.

Anyway, on ipad i don't think it is working except on ios7 (i see so much people asking for an ios update on chainfire google plus, so...)
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: darkskies on December 05, 2015, 03:04:25 PM
I use Qdslrdashboard you don't have to jailbreak your iPad and works with Android,PC ,Mac with canon,Nikon ,and Sony Dslr cameras .
You can use it with the builtin wifi in the camera or you can buy a TP-Link MR-3040 router and put some custom firmware on it like what the Camranger does but for $53 AUD from eBay .

http://dslrdashboard.info/phpBB3/index.php

http://dslrdashboard.info

http://youtu.be/Our-AxmrDJM
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: Alfazzz on December 06, 2015, 12:20:14 PM
Thanks for pointing this, nice and cheap solution !
I bought a camranger few weeks ago, and cost me lots more... But i really like it, it's a real usuful tool for my work.

I will share this with my boss, good find ;)
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: kichetof on December 06, 2015, 12:33:34 PM
@darkskies many thanks ! Doesn't want to buy an expensive solution and don't remember who use the tp-link router. Many thanks !!

For Swiss users, don't find it on toppreise.ch and amazon sellers don't deliver in Switzerland, so eBay is the best solution (from a Hong Kong seller ($41.85), I'm excited to receive it) :)
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: darkskies on December 07, 2015, 07:29:45 AM
You are all most Welcome ...... :) glad to help you all to find a App that would work without Jailbreaking your iPads ...
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: vertigopix on December 07, 2015, 09:07:16 AM
@kichetof

J'en ai un et ça marche pas mal. Mais je dois avouer ne pas l'utiliser bien souvent...   ;)

https://www.ricardo.ch/kaufen/computer-und-netzwerk/netzwerkkarten-und-wireless/wireless/sonstiges/3g-4g-wlan-n-router-tl-mr3040-neu/v/an776917624/

;-) Belle journée à toi.
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: Alfazzz on December 07, 2015, 10:59:36 AM
Salut,
pourquoi trouves tu que ça marche mal ?
tu peux nous en dire plus stp


Hi,
why do you find it works poorly ?
Can you tell us more please
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: darkskies on December 07, 2015, 11:39:55 AM
I find it works ok I can download pictures and control my camera ....the developer is all way working to improve it and it has timelapse fuctions and also control the Dynamic Perception NMX controller .
So that is ony a few things this Great App/ program can do .
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: kichetof on December 07, 2015, 11:48:17 AM
@vertigopix oh yeah I forget ricardo... too late, thanks :)
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: vertigopix on December 07, 2015, 11:55:18 AM
Ça marche PAS mal !  Donc ça marche bien !   ;)
I mean NOT so bad, so it's working good !   ;)

@kichetof : oooops...
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: Alfazzz on December 07, 2015, 01:19:36 PM
oups mal lu...au temps pour moi :D
Bad reading...my mistake
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: darkskies on December 07, 2015, 11:15:57 PM
Qdslrdashboard gets more support then dslrcontroller I always look forward to the fixes and improvements he makes to the app so many new features in the last few mths  :)
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: darkskies on December 16, 2015, 08:52:50 PM
Should be a new version out next week with a lot of bug fixes .
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: kichetof on December 16, 2015, 09:37:25 PM
Tp-link received today :)
Very happy to play with it on holidays!
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: darkskies on December 17, 2015, 12:17:09 AM
Don't forget to load the factory file on first then the Sysupgrade second

http://dslrdashboard.info/downloads/

http://youtu.be/Our-AxmrDJM


TP-Link MR3040 ddserver OpenWrt firmware
V0.2-13

MR3040 version   V2

DDServer OpenWrt MR3040 V2 Factory 0.13
DDServer OpenWrt MR3040 V2 Sysupgrade 0.13
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: kichetof on December 17, 2015, 01:02:19 AM
thanks @darkskies for the informations :)
I'll do that after the rush of Xmas :)
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: darkskies on December 18, 2015, 02:21:21 AM
You are most welcome !
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: darkskies on December 23, 2015, 11:55:18 PM
New iOS version 03.34 and android version 0.3.4 are out and ready to download
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 24, 2015, 03:04:06 AM
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/23/0c23ce379a38c47217aa4da6d8bfb2c3.jpg)

Doesn't seem to be compatible with iOS 9 as of yet and hasn't been ever since iOS 7 which is ridiculous!
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: darkskies on December 24, 2015, 06:02:42 AM
Yes that dslrcontroller that is not compatible .....

Below is the link to Qdslrdasboard which is compatible .....

http://dslrdashboard.info/downloads/
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 24, 2015, 05:45:02 PM
Oh okay but wasn't this thread based on DSLRcontroller (hence the title) and thanks for the link to Qdslrdashboard ... Would it work on iPad/iPhone's and not only for OSX right?

Aren't they two different apps that do different things or at least somewhat similar (which I don't think it is) correct me if I'm wrong though!
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: darkskies on December 25, 2015, 12:59:11 AM
Yes the thread was for dslrcontroller but that is a so outdated app......

Qdslrdashboard runs on iOS ,android ,Mac ,Pc .linix and Raspberry PI 2

Qdslrdashboard and dslrcontroller are to way different apps with Qdslrdashboard in my option is the leader in this kind of app/Program .

Qdslrdashboard having a few great features like NMX control ( Dynamic perception ) also lrttimelapse (ramping ) holy Grail ! These are only a few of the great features any many more .
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: eyeland on December 26, 2015, 03:51:11 PM
What kind of latency are you seeing with qslrdashboard + ipad + MR3040?
Title: Re: Monitor on Ipad (Jailbroken) /// DSLR CONTROLER
Post by: jonathan.grevsen on December 26, 2015, 04:45:57 PM
@Alfazzz Sorry for the late reply. I use 5D M3 1.2.3 with latest ML. TP router and if Sd card with ML is inserted and I start the recording from dslrcontroller (Android) it will record MLV files