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Developing Magic Lantern => Feature Requests => Topic started by: garry23 on March 23, 2014, 03:25:48 PM

Title: Magic Focus
Post by: garry23 on March 23, 2014, 03:25:48 PM
In a previous post I buried a request related to Magic Zoom, hence I'm sure if was lost.

In Magic Zoom, which is a a critical tool for photographers like me with manual lenses, ie clearer focus confirmation than focus peaking, especially in bright sun, we have three ways to show focus.

The one I believe needs 'enhancing' is the green bars method.

I challenge anyone to 'see' the green bars, which I assume are top and bottom of the focus frame.

May I request that the bars be made a lot 'thicker' or that a big green dot be made to appear in the MZ window when focus is achieved.

Title: Re: Magic Focus
Post by: dubzeebass on March 23, 2014, 05:05:22 PM
Great request and I agree!
Title: Re: Magic Focus
Post by: garry23 on March 23, 2014, 05:29:07 PM
Sorry forgot to also say how about an audio indicator as well?
Title: Re: Magic Focus
Post by: Marsu42 on March 23, 2014, 07:40:45 PM
Quote from: garry23 on March 23, 2014, 03:25:48 PM
May I request that the bars be made a lot 'thicker' or that a big green dot be made to appear in the MZ window when focus is achieved.

+1, I seldom use it, but I also had the problem to see them while outdoors
Title: Re: Magic Focus
Post by: engardeknave on March 29, 2014, 02:04:07 AM
I got a $30 hood loupe (I think from Cowboystudios) for LV use outside and I can't recommend it enough.
Title: Re: Magic Focus
Post by: garry23 on March 29, 2014, 04:41:09 AM
Agree. I bought a Hoodman: fantastic.

But I would still humbly suggest making focus confirm easier to see, eg thicker green bar, or green dot or audio or all three.

BtW my CamRanger focus peaking and focus confirm is much easier to use, but then again if is $300 more than ML, and runs on an iPad screen.
Title: Re: Magic Focus
Post by: nanomad on March 29, 2014, 12:24:43 PM
Quote from: garry23 on March 23, 2014, 03:25:48 PM
May I request that the bars be made a lot 'thicker' or that a big green dot be made to appear in the MZ window when focus is achieved.

Sounds reasonable.

Can you provide a picture of the "new" desired green bars width?
Title: Re: Magic Focus
Post by: garry23 on March 29, 2014, 02:02:12 PM
Nanomad

Rather than me specify this may I suggest it be user selectable, within limits.

For example 1,3 or 5 pixels wide.

Everyone has differnt eyesight and I think user preferences are what makes ML a great tool.
Title: Re: Magic Focus
Post by: chris_overseas on March 29, 2014, 03:12:46 PM
I'm taking a look at fixing this since I find those bars difficult to see too. Here's what I've found so far:
I'm going to try changing the lines to 100% green to see what they then look like at two pixels high. If that doesn't appear clear enough still then I'll gradually increase the thickness of the green bars until it feels about right. I don't think it's a good idea to add yet more configuration options for this, the ML menus are already too complex as it is and a sensible default for this should be fine.
Title: Re: Magic Focus
Post by: garry23 on March 29, 2014, 04:06:19 PM
Chris

Great information, I'm afraid my eyesight, even with a Hoodman, could not see that level of detail.

BTW I find the LV focus tools, like MZ and focus peaking, a great substitute when I don't have an iPad with me. My preference for achieving critical focus, especially with my Tilt-Shift lens, is to use my CamRanger-iPad set up. The difference is very clear, if you forgive the pun.

As an example I'm just sitting down for breakfast in New Mexico having had an early morning capturing some architectural photography with my 5DIII, 24mm TS-E, CamRanger and an iPad. Getting the shots was a pleasure.

As I say, I welcome getting the ML focus 'enhanced' as the in-camera LV is a good fallback.

Cheers

Garry
Title: Re: Magic Focus
Post by: a1ex on March 29, 2014, 08:59:43 PM
The dotted line is a bug (good catch). Reproduced.
Title: Re: Magic Focus
Post by: chris_overseas on March 31, 2014, 12:12:07 AM
garry23: take a look at the next nightly build, it should include a fix for this.
Title: Re: Magic Focus
Post by: garry23 on March 31, 2014, 02:25:43 AM
Chris

Cheers now usable.