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Using Magic Lantern => Raw Video => Raw Video Postprocessing => Topic started by: yasinvfx on February 19, 2014, 12:06:53 AM

Title: 7D NOISE PROBLEM
Post by: yasinvfx on February 19, 2014, 12:06:53 AM
7D and  2014-02-18 Night Builds

RAW VIDEO 1280x720

1/48
ISO 800
f 4.0
KINGSTON 600x ultimate 16 GB CF Card

MY DNG FILE ((FIRST FRAME))
000000.dng (http://turbobit.net/ypixq5qjqtox.html)

my videos very grainy. HELP ME.!
(http://i.hizliresim.com/xRGvo1.png) (http://hizliresim.com/xRGvo1)
Title: Re: 7D NOISE PROBLEM
Post by: a1ex on February 19, 2014, 12:21:09 AM
Quote from: yasinvfx on February 19, 2014, 12:06:53 AM
f 4.0

Try f1.4.
Title: Re: 7D NOISE PROBLEM
Post by: yasinvfx on February 19, 2014, 12:28:16 AM
Quote from: a1ex on February 19, 2014, 12:21:09 AM
Try f1.4.

No no..
My lens is 24-105 f.4.0 L
Title: Re: 7D NOISE PROBLEM
Post by: Frank7D on February 19, 2014, 06:47:25 AM
Get a faster lens
OR
use more light
OR
use noise reduction software in post
Title: Re: 7D NOISE PROBLEM
Post by: naturalsound on February 19, 2014, 08:35:48 AM
You can gain one stop of light by overriding the shutter speed to 1/25sec. (But be aware of some motion-blur)
Try to expose such that the highlights are just below clipping (RAW-Histogram).
I tend to use ETTR on the brightest Part of my Scene to optimize exposure before each shot.

For Noise-Reduction NeatVideo works great. It uses also temporal filtering so you do not loose as much detail as by just the ACR Noise reduction. But the differences are not huge.
Title: Re: 7D NOISE PROBLEM
Post by: Audionut on February 19, 2014, 08:42:11 AM
ISO 800 is the last useful (http://www.sensorgen.info/CanonEOS_7D.html) ISO on the 7D.  So unless you can increase exposure (through shutter/aperture/scene luminance), then your SOOL.
Title: Re: 7D NOISE PROBLEM
Post by: hdclip on February 19, 2014, 11:18:38 AM
Quote from: Audionut on February 19, 2014, 08:42:11 AM
ISO 800 is the last useful (http://www.sensorgen.info/CanonEOS_7D.html) ISO on the 7D.  So unless you can increase exposure (through shutter/aperture/scene luminance), then your SOOL.

Very interesting Link!!!!! thank,s
Title: Re: 7D NOISE PROBLEM
Post by: yasinvfx on February 19, 2014, 11:31:06 AM
MY OUTDOOR TEST

ISO 100
f9.9
1/48

were corrected with the CAMERA RAW

(http://i.hizliresim.com/KdMAzQ.jpg) (http://hizliresim.com/KdMAzQ)
Title: Re: 7D NOISE PROBLEM
Post by: Stedda on February 19, 2014, 01:51:42 PM
I agree I never used anything above ISO 800/1250 on my 7D.... and in your last picture besides the fact the not a single thing is in focus I see no noise.
Title: Re: 7D NOISE PROBLEM
Post by: Audionut on February 20, 2014, 06:37:40 AM
1250 is a digital push of 800.  So in this case, it's probably better to do the digital push in post so that you retain the 1/3 stop highlight detail.
When it's pushed digitally in camera, it simply clips the top end.

Quote from: Stedda on February 19, 2014, 01:51:42 PM
and in your last picture besides the fact the not a single thing is in focus I see no noise.

On this point, noise helps to increase the perceived sharpness of detail.  Where there is lack of detail, such as in areas of the frame that are out of focus, the noise becomes entirely problematic.

@yasinvfx
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