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« on: May 13, 2013, 01:18:28 PM »
Hi everyone, looking for 1000x cards on Ebay reveals a few (very few) brands currently offering cards at this speed. There is the more common Lexar (often with the word 'genuine' attached, hinting the fact that there may be lots of fake ones out there?) but there are also toshiba, transcend, hoodman and Delkin just to name a few.
A 128 gb 1000x from a Brand called 'Komputer Bay' cought my eye as it costs 275$ (+- 500$ less then the Lexar counterpart), but the description states: 'NOTE: The Nikon D800 Camera's firmware currently only supports 128GB Compact Flash Cards manufactured by Sandisk or Lexar.'
Not that I really care what the D800 supports, nevertheless it made me wonder if there are this type of limitations for Canon DSLRs too, also I hear that not all the manufacturers actually deliver the promised speed, therefore I thought I start this thread in order for everyone to share their experience with different 1000x CF cards and avoid unpleasant issues when buying stuff like this online, thank you all for posting!
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2013, 01:35:32 PM »
Yeah there's a lot of fakes on ebay but you can usually tell whether someone is an authorised seller. Andrew @ eoshd is using one of those Komputer Bay cards so you could drop him a line and see how it's working out with RAW. I'm using a Lexar 600x card and it's managing 1080p RAW on the MKIII ok.
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2013, 02:14:21 PM »
Yeah there's a lot of fakes on ebay but you can usually tell whether someone is an authorised seller. Andrew @ eoshd is using one of those Komputer Bay cards so you could drop him a line and see how it's working out with RAW. I'm using a Lexar 600x card and it's managing 1080p RAW on the MKIII ok.
Thanks and good to know, will get in touch with Andrew to find out about the Komputer Bay card!
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2013, 02:15:25 PM »
cut out the term "YUV 422" as it is just 14-bit raw and no YUV anymore.
Ok, will do, had no idea what it really stands for to begin with, but thanks!
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2013, 04:37:30 PM »
Andrew confirmed already that the KOMPUTERBAY 128GB Professional COMPACT FLASH CARD CF 1000X 150MB/s Extreme Speed UDMA 7 RAW 128 GB

Is working fine!

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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2013, 05:11:23 PM »
Andrew confirmed already that the KOMPUTERBAY 128GB Professional COMPACT FLASH CARD CF 1000X 150MB/s Extreme Speed UDMA 7 RAW 128 GB

Is working fine!

That is great!
Any benchmark done with those cards on ML so we can compare to Lexar?
My Sandisk Extreme Pro 90MB/s cannot record 1920x1080 without skipping frames, 1920x720 works great.
Looking forward to get one of those Komputerbay 128GB, just wanted to be sure with other confirmation or benchmark.

Thanks!

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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2013, 05:20:25 PM »
Andrew confirmed already that the KOMPUTERBAY 128GB Professional COMPACT FLASH CARD CF 1000X 150MB/s Extreme Speed UDMA 7 RAW 128 GB

Is working fine!
Great news! Hope they are still in stock when my cash flow is up again :o
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2013, 06:28:44 PM »
That is great!
Any benchmark done with those cards on ML so we can compare to Lexar?
My Sandisk Extreme Pro 90MB/s cannot record 1920x1080 without skipping frames, 1920x720 works great.
Looking forward to get one of those Komputerbay 128GB, just wanted to be sure with other confirmation or benchmark.

Thanks!

I get some skipping on my Sandisk 90MB/s card at 1920x1080 as well so I have a couple of Lexar 32G 1000x cards showing up tomorrow.  For a while, I'll just have to bring a laptop to dump footage and swap cards a lot when I shoot raw.

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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2013, 06:17:55 PM »
I am looking to mess around on the 5d2 with raw rec.
5 minutes of video recording is enough for me so I am looking for an at least 32GB card or cheap 64GB card.

The options I look into:

INTEGRAL 32GB CF UltimaPro 800x (~ 90 euro) (according specs this will do upto 120 MBps write)
Transcend TS32GCF1000 32GB (~ 100 euro)  (according specs this will do 120 MBps write)
Interlagos 64GB Compact Flash UDMA 6 (~70 euro) (according specs this will do 50 MB/s write)

50MB/s won't get me 1920x817 @ 24fps (the resolution /fps I hope for). I have good experience with transcend so I might buy that one. Any options I should consider?

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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2013, 12:36:43 PM »
Is there any chance of a benchmark from the Komputerbay 128GB 1000x card?
Will it be able to hold 1920x1080 continuously?

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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2013, 02:41:54 AM »
Latest compile for 5D3 as of now will all new mods tested with Lexar 32GB 1000x

at 24 fps can run for 200 frames with 1920 x1280 !!
at 24 fps can run the full 4GB with 1920 x1152 !!
and of course can run the full 4GB with 1920 x1080 as before.

Test with SanDisk Extreme 32GB 60MB/s

at 24 fps can run 180 frames with 1920x840
at 24 fps can run the full 4GB with 1920x720

Love the new start stop capabilities and the option to stop recording when the buffer is full.

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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2013, 09:05:15 AM »
I visited a nearby camera store yesterday and saw they carry Promaster 1000x udma7 CF cards, they carry 16,32, 64 gig at that store.

Does anyone here have any experience with this brand? Would it work for 1880x1080 for the 5dmkII ?

Any input is highly appreciated.

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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2013, 08:45:04 AM »
Latest compile for 5D3 as of now will all new mods tested with Lexar 32GB 1000x

at 24 fps can run for 200 frames with 1920 x1280 !!
at 24 fps can run the full 4GB with 1920 x1152 !!
and of course can run the full 4GB with 1920 x1080 as before.


SO is this a limitation of the build or the card? am seeing same frame limit with same 1000x lexar card (wondering if it should be capable of more than the 75MB/s or so the camera says its generating?

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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2013, 09:23:26 AM »
I want to try and shoot RAW 1080p video on my 5D Mark III, unfortunately i don't have a 1000x CF Card, so i was looking forward to purchasing one or two, i too came across Komputerbay cards, unfortunately these cards are not available in my country (India), i checked everywhere, on eBay.com people who are selling these cards have 'Asia' in excluded countries for shipping. Currently i see they are available in abundance in US only. If you guys come across a shop selling those cards with International Shipping to India, please let me know.

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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2013, 10:48:14 PM »
NOTE: This is all my personal opinion, experience and everything comes from my personal tests. You may or may not agree with it, so please no hating.

So, here are my observations from a week of testing different CF cards from different manufactures. All the test were done with latest build.

Komputerbay 128GB 1000X From benchmark tests it was around writing 60-72mb/s

Can record continuously up until 4GB limit in all resolutions before 1920x960, no skipped/dropped frames

1920x960 15-20 seconds of recording then it starts to drop/skip frames

1920x1080 10-15 seconds of recording the in starts to drop/skip frames

1920x1152 less than 5 seconds and then it starts to drop/skip frames

I returned the card since the writing speed is less than advertised.

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3x Komputerbay 64GB 1000x From benchmark test it topped out up to writing 92mb/s

I got them since they are faster than 128gb. Komputerbay tests and other user test prove that. My personal tests too show that they are much faster than 128gb.

Can record continuously up until 4gb limit in all resolutions before 1920x1280 with no dropped/skipped frames.

1920x1280 up to 5 seconds of recording and then it start to drop/skip frames.

Returned all of them since two of the cards failed on me yesterday and third one was about to fail too.

My personal experience and opinion about Komputerbay cards are negative. Those cards in my opinion are the most unreliable cards I've ever used. I will never use them on any professional shoot. I will never buy them again. I'm not the only one btw with this problems. Their cards are all vary in the speeds and not consistent. Their quality check suffer. One can get 128gb with 90mb/s write speed and other can get same card with less than 65mb/s. TRUST ME, you may not get the same results I got.

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SanDisk Extreme Pro 32GB (surprised me a lot) From benchmark tests it topped out up to writing 88mb/s

Can record continuously up until 4gb limit in all resolutions before 1920x1152 with no dropped/skipped frames

1920x1152 10-15 seconds and then it starts to drop/skip frames

Great performances from SanDisk after all tests. It still works great for me. REMEMBER its not 1000x card.

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Now to the winner of all.

Hoodman Steel 1000x 64GB From benchmarks it topped out up to writing 98mb/s SUPER fast. UPD: Writing speed goes up to 116mb/s, which is very impressive.

Can record continuously up until 4gb limit in all resolutions before 1920x1280 with no skipped/dropped frames.

1920x1280 5-8 seconds of recording and then it starts to drop/skip frames.

Out of all cards is by far my most favorite. I also used lexar cards before, but not with raw update. They are the best build quality cards out there (made of steel components). They use ssd technology in them which helps to achieve super fast writing and reading speeds. Also life time of this cards is pretty amazing too.

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Hoodman and SanDisk are great cards that I would recommend to people. I will also test lexar and transcend cards. I'm still amazed by the hoodman card. I'm pretty sure after new builds Hoodman and SanDisk would be able to record for longer periods. That's all I got for now. Hope that helps.
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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2013, 11:04:55 PM »
May I ask you to run this test with the Hoodman card?

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5471

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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2013, 11:58:25 PM »
May I ask you to run this test with the Hoodman card?

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5471

I'll do it right now, and as soon as I finish I will post it over there.

BTW, I just did one more simple 5min CF card test and writing speed got up to 115.9mb/s reading 133-142mb/s. This IS a crazy fast card. Also , card wasn't empty. It was filled with 5gb file.
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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2013, 01:35:01 PM »
They are the best build quality cards out there (made of steel components).
Is the casing made of metal? If so, have you noticed any difference in terms of heat? (I imagine that a CF card in steel casing would dissipate heat better than one made from plastic)
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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2013, 02:37:09 PM »
Is the casing made of metal? If so, have you noticed any difference in terms of heat? (I imagine that a CF card in steel casing would dissipate heat better than one made from plastic)

I did btw, sorry completely forgot to mention that. It is much much cooler compare to all the cards, I would say not just simply cooler, but zero heat on it. At least I didn't feel it.
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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2013, 04:09:59 PM »
Hey guys, did anyone tried Lexar 1000x 32 or 64 gb cards ?  I heared it writes about 93 mb/s

10x

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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2013, 06:02:13 PM »
I have the sandisk 32GB 90 mb/s udma7 and its dropping frames on 1920x1080 25 fps and tested 24 fps as well.
The 1280x720 25fps not dropping frames goes up to the 4gb and stops which is normal.

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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2013, 07:53:56 PM »
I did btw, sorry completely forgot to mention that. It is much much cooler compare to all the cards, I would say not just simply cooler, but zero heat on it. At least I didn't feel it.
That sounds like a winner to me :D
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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2013, 07:48:51 AM »
Has anyone had experiance with the delkin cinema line?

only CF card that claims a speed of...
1050x
the 128gig version seems perfect for this kind of work, just wondering if anyone's used it before I jump onto the $700 price tag.

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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2013, 07:59:51 AM »
It's $640 at B&H. Seems to be the same speed as the Lexar, probably just rebadged. There's been mention of 64Gb cards being faster than 128Gb cards.
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