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Rob Curd

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Second Crack at the Whip
« on: November 03, 2017, 07:26:12 PM »
After sharing my first raw video on here I got some great tips, mainly from bpv5P, so thought I would share the results.

Few frames from a trip to London, feel free to leave feedback good or bad.

https://youtu.be/9K_RtjafUns

Gear:
Canon 60d
Canon 24-70mm f2.8

Settings:
10 bit Raw
2.35:1 Aspect Ratio
1728x736 Resolution downscaled to 720p
24fps

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Re: Second Crack at the Whip
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2017, 01:18:13 AM »
Fuck yeah, beautiful! Much better than my own footages.
Have you tried color grading with ACES? Also, if you got some money, give it try to these cheap old lenses, like Helios 44. You would get much more light from those and get less noise...
It's great to see you using my tips!


edit: see this, but you already got the idea better than myself.

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Re: Second Crack at the Whip
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2017, 01:36:29 PM »
Fuck yeah, beautiful! Much better than my own footages.
Have you tried color grading with ACES? Also, if you got some money, give it try to these cheap old lenses, like Helios 44. You would get much more light from those and get less noise...
It's great to see you using my tips!


edit: see this, but you already got the idea better than myself.

Thanks! I’m really happy with the colours :).

I’d love to see your footage if you have a link?

I haven’t heard of it no? I feel like I might invest my time is resolve given it’s already part of my workflow which is:

Mlvraw viewer > Dng with a log c profile
Dng into resolve > export to Pro res LT
Edit in premiere and chuck a LUT on.

If I had the skills I would bring back into resolve to colour / add a lut.

Unless you think your suggestion would yield better results?

As for the light, my maximum aperture is f2.8 and I do have an old 50mm Pentax f1.7 however my trouble is a cropped sensor, first being the low light performance and second a 50mm is effectively a 85mm.

My plan is to save for a second hand 5d mkiii, higher res, faster cards, just seems a better route to me?

Your tips have helped massively!


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Re: Second Crack at the Whip
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2017, 11:17:20 PM »
I’d love to see your footage if you have a link?

Oh, I'm not that good to link you some of my works... I use a old 600D and Takumar lenses, nothing compared to the quality of your video, really.

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Mlvraw viewer > Dng with a log c profile
Dng into resolve > export to Pro res LT
Edit in premiere and chuck a LUT on.

It's a good workflow, but if you want even better results you should convert the MLV to CinemaDNG and do the color grading on Resolve, and export to ProRes. So, Premiere should not touch the color grading, it's the Resolve part of the process.
The ACES color processing would possibly be better than Log C, but I don't know about the color precision, since Canon cameras are not calibrated to it (as discussed on the thread linked above). Give it a test and post the results! :^)

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As for the light, my maximum aperture is f2.8 and I do have an old 50mm Pentax f1.7 however my trouble is a cropped sensor, first being the low light performance and second a 50mm is effectively a 85mm.

Oh, yeah, that's a problem. The APS-C crop (1.6x) is very big...

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My plan is to save for a second hand 5d mkiii, higher res, faster cards, just seems a better route to me?

I think 5D MKIII is your best option today if you want video quality and not waste too much money on high-end cameras like RED or Alexa.

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Re: Second Crack at the Whip
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2017, 11:39:01 PM »
Oh, I'm not that good to link you some of my works... I use a old 600D and Takumar lenses, nothing compared to the quality of your video, really.

It's a good workflow, but if you want even better results you should convert the MLV to CinemaDNG and do the color grading on Resolve, and export to ProRes. So, Premiere should not touch the color grading, it's the Resolve part of the process.
The ACES color processing would possibly be better than Log C, but I don't know about the color precision, since Canon cameras are not calibrated to it (as discussed on the thread linked above). Give it a test and post the results! :^)

Oh, yeah, that's a problem. The APS-C crop (1.6x) is very big...

I think 5D MKIII is your best option today if you want video quality and not waste too much money on high-end cameras like RED or Alexa.

I’m sure your being modest! If you ever post anything let me know :).

I will do some homework and post the results!

Yea 5d mkiii is what I’m saving for. A red is slightly out of my price range ha.

Thanks again!


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