"washed out" colors in Resolve 12 - Win7

Started by Flocksock, June 01, 2016, 01:30:06 AM

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Flocksock

I´m a bit tired deinstall/reinstall again. I will wait for an answer at the blackmagic forum, too.
Than i will try out to deinstall. First try teh stable version again. And than try  the BETA + install quicktime "inside resolve".

I rendered ""mpeg4", "DNxHD", DNxHR", "h264". And some other codecs... but sometimes
resolves crashed. Crashed really bad. So i stay with "mov (mpeg4) for the moment.
And render also tiff and uncompressed to see if my settings are wrong. As i said.
As tiff... the image looks perfect!

I use "Media Player Classic" / VLC Player and Quicktime to watch the rendered image.
I also import the final video back into resolve Timeline. Media Player Classic also have the option
to save an image.. so sometimes i check that image also in Photoshop.

The codec i want to use is mpeg4. At the moment i do all the grading in Resolve.
Than render the image as mpeg4. And later convert the mpeg4 file with Quicktime Pro into
an "h264" file for Festivals, Vimeo, whatever.

File information from a "resolve mpeg4" file:
------------------------------------------------------------------
Format              : QuickTime
Format/Info      : Original Apple specifications
File size             : 368 MiB
Duration           : 43s 480ms
Overall bit rate   : 70.9 Mbps

Video
Format                           : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile                 : Advanced Simple@L3
Format settings, BVOP   : Yes
Format settings, QPel     : No
Format settings, GMC    : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix    : Default (H.263)
Bit rate                           : 70.9 Mbps
Width                            : 1 920 pixels
Height                            : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio         : 16:9
Frame rate mode              : Constant
Frame rate                     : 25.000 fps
Color space                    : YUV
Bit depth                       : 8 bits
Scan type                      : Progressive
Compression mode           : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)             : 1.368
------------------------------------------------------------------

DeafEyeJedi

Could it be because of Bit depth being 8 bits instead of the required 32-bit float?


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Flocksock

I deinstalled Quicktime and Resolve 12.3. Reboot.
Install Resolve 12.3 again (+ Quicktime installer direct in the Resolve Installer. )
Start Rersolve 12.3 and NOPE... Quicktime still not work.

Deinstalled all again. Reboot.
Resolve beta + Quicktime. Result: Quicktime still don't work.

I give up.

I get a new PC at the end of the week.  I will install quicktime and Resolve on the new PC...
and check if i get the same errors and same render-problems.
If this is the case... i simple will render out tiffs (LZW). Might get a little huge but thats the only solution.
I still wait that someone at the blackmagicdesign forum answers to my posts. Lets see.

Flocksock

Neuer Rechner. Quicktime installiert. Resolve 12.3 installiert.
Resolve startet OHNE Fehlermeldung. Super!
...
Im Blackmagic forum gibt/gab es selbst nach einer Woche keine Antwort/Hilfe
zu dem Quicktime Problem. egal.

Problem bleibt aber bestehen.
Unkompressed avi YUV Files sehen super aus.
Tiff Files sehen auch gut aus!

Alle gerenderten Quicktime Files sehen "crushed" aus. (die Quicktime Fehlermeldung beim Start kann man also ignorieren)
Werde nun also immer tiff sequenzen aus Resolve rausrendern müssen.
oder DPX Files. Oder EXR. (Muss da noch genau testen ob wirklich alle "Bild Sequenzen" das
Bild zu 100% richtig anzeigen. Und welche Lösung dann platzsparend ist.)

Vom Workflow strebe ich an ALLES in Resolve zu schneiden und zu editieren.
Falls es mit dem Ton/Schnitt zu nervig wird... dann Farbkorrektur, Rohschnitt in Rersolve.
Dann wechsel in Premiere. (Ohne danach noch mal zu Resolve zu switchen)


Flocksock

Sorry for switching into german. I was tired at this point.
I updated to Resolve 12.5 (stable version) and now found youtube / vimeo buttons
render settings.
And it works. No color shifting. No crushed colors. I can render h264 Quicktime
file straight out of resolve and it looks perfect.

KelvinK

VLC and MS Media player have different level for "black point", in VLC colors looks washed. Same issue if you watch video on vimeo in IE or Firefox, in Firefox colors more "washed".
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Flocksock

Not true. If you know what your GPU is doing, and your system, and your media Players, and your browser.. the colors looks all the same. I got same results in VLC, Media Player Classic and Quicktime. Also the same colors in Firefox, Chrome, IE. And no difference between youtube and vimeo.

KelvinK

And I'm talking about Windows Media Player, but not "custom" MPC.
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Huynhhha

Hey, I watch this thread, no one ever mention that use the color effect changing in techsmith or video watermark pro, maybe you can refer to the two software, they probably can deal with the color adding.