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BennTech

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April Fools joke? WTF ML!!
« on: March 23, 2015, 03:44:42 AM »
So I just happened to be skimming the ML commits to see what has changed since my (really) old build and I come across this one:
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/0022133a1e1c9c2ddbadf4c30f89d1f8558675a3

WTF??!!  Every April 1, Magic Lantern will now randomly play an April Fool's joke on it's users???  Seriously, everyone, look at the code--even if you're not a computer programmer, you can still follow what the code is doing.  Need more convincing?  Look at that commit's title: "Un petit poisson d'avril" = "A little April Fool".

I guess the one good thing too see in this commit is that the developer took out some previous code that randomly screws up saturation as a joke.  Oh wait...that does not make it f*ing better because who knows how long that code has been in there?  And this is just one of thousands of commits.  Who knows what other practical jokes Magic Lantern developers are playing on their users?

Haha, this is all really f*ing funny, but I spend a lot of time perfecting my photos, some of which are once-in-a-lifetime photo opportunities.  I don't need Magic Lantern developers PURPOSEFULLY f*ing up my photos as a practical joke.  >:(

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Re: April Fools joke? WTF ML!!
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2015, 06:12:20 AM »
looks like you didn't bother to read or understand the commit. The code do no harms, it only plays with lcd brightness. Stop all your drama, please.

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Re: April Fools joke? WTF ML!!
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2015, 08:56:31 AM »
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some of which are once-in-a-lifetime photo opportunities

Are you storing all your pictures on your SD card or are you thinking that ML will kill your entire job and erase your backups ?

 8) Cool, relax, have a break, have a KitKat...  :P

Walter Schulz

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Re: April Fools joke? WTF ML!!
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2015, 09:06:01 AM »
About to test this one. Will change cam's date to April, 1st.
If I'm not replying soon cam exploded.

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Re: April Fools joke? WTF ML!!
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2015, 09:09:08 AM »
About to test this one. Will change cam's date to April, 1st.
If I'm not replying soon cam exploded.

I'm responding on behalf of Walter Schulz, he let me know on IRC that his camera exploded, which means he can no longer access magic lantern forums.

vertigopix

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Re: April Fools joke? WTF ML!!
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2015, 09:43:38 AM »
Here is the proof :


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Re: April Fools joke? WTF ML!!
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2015, 10:01:56 AM »
Call it luck but I have a second cam, second account and second thoughts about this feature.
Pug's report follows.

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Re: April Fools joke? WTF ML!!
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2015, 12:58:31 PM »
No, I don't store my photos on my SD card.  And it doesn't matter if it's your screen or your photos affected.

Say that you're a professional photographer hired to do a shoot and need some feature only available via ML.  Then, randomly during the shoot, your camera starts screwing up the LCD saturation, brightness, buttons, etc..  There is no associated "April Fool's" text or anything to indicate it's joke.  It just keeps randomly happening.  Are your photos affected?  Is there something wrong with your camera?  Do you need to take your camera in for servicing?  You're standing there trying to figure out what's wrong shot after shot, staring at your camera with a perplexed look on your face like an unprofessional dumbass, missing key action shots, burning studio time, having some bridal party getting more and more irritated, or whatever the scenario, and all because some ML developer thought it would funny.

If the developers wanted to do something funny, they should have added some clever Easter egg when you press an unlikely series of buttons.  I'd even be forgiving if ML accidentally f*d up my photos because of a bug.  But that's not the case.  You might think it's just a benign joke, it's not so benign in the above example.  Put it in perspective.  ML developers are intentionally f*ing with their users.  That's not benign--it's malicious.  And it shows a disappointing lack of maturity in what is otherwise a professional-level project.

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Re: April Fools joke? WTF ML!!
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2015, 01:14:09 PM »
Then stop using it and go away to thy land of Tin Foil Hats.

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Re: April Fools joke? WTF ML!!
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2015, 01:37:08 PM »
@BennTech

You're "Just Arrived" here and start screaming...
Maybe you can also quietly talk about your concerns without thinking that ML want to f*ck you. (as you wrote)

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Re: April Fools joke? WTF ML!!
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2015, 02:11:37 PM »
@BennTech - if the last few years is anything to go by then "malicious" is not a word you would ever associate with ML developers! They actually go to great lengths to ensure you don't get any nasty surprises.
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Re: April Fools joke? WTF ML!!
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2015, 02:41:15 PM »
How about a 1000% refund of the purchase price of ML? I will pay that to you personally, let me know where to send the check.

professional-level project
This is where you are totally mistaken. This is not a professional project. It is not intended to be a professional project. This is a spare time, hobby project that is just for fun. There are all kinds of disclaimers to this end.

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No guarantees - if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces.

The source code is made freely available to you so that you can use it however you wish. If you wish to use it in a professional setting, then the onus is on you, not the developers. If you do not have the technical knowledge or time (or the resources to pay someone else who can) to verify and test the source code to acceptable levels of QA, then you should not use it in a professional setting. Period. And if you do, anything that happens, whether by accident or even malicious intent on the part of the developers, is your own fault.

The ironic thing is you are complaining about developers being deceitful, when in fact, said deceitful information is publicly published and readily available to anyone.
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Walter Schulz

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Re: April Fools joke? WTF ML!!
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2015, 03:48:17 PM »
Come on, people! Who called out "Let's go to war!" over an intended April Fools joke?
Take a deep breath, please.

I have to say I cannot deny BennTech having some kind of claim.

But please: Play it down. The only Holy Wars I like is an album by Tuxedomoon.

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Re: April Fools joke? WTF ML!!
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2015, 06:13:11 PM »
sorry.

obviously know more than us, as you claim that it will corrupt your footage. seems you have studied the registers and know them well.
we didnt expect that the ML userbase also includes people that have no fucking sense of humor. (you are allowed to write the f-word here)
we just didnt expect that there are people that get pissed because of [whatever happens].

in this case, again, sorry.
you get your money back of course and i am sure you know how the uninstaller works.

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Re: April Fools joke? WTF ML!!
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2015, 09:11:49 PM »
'You're standing there trying to figure out what's wrong shot after shot, staring at your camera with a perplexed look on your face like an unprofessional dumbass, missing key action shots, burning studio time, having some bridal party getting more and more irritated, or whatever the scenario, and all because some ML developer thought it would funny.'

- I'd say that is hilarious...you have just described a sequence from Mr Bean.

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Re: April Fools joke? WTF ML!!
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2015, 10:59:31 PM »
This is where you are totally mistaken. This is not a professional project. It is not intended to be a professional project. This is a spare time, hobby project that is just for fun.

I already knew ML developers did this as hobby.  What I didn't know was that ML developers cannot produce professional-LEVEL work, so thank you, dmilligan, for explaining to me that all ML developers only produce amateurish crap.  I was not aware of that.  And if that's the case, then I guess no professional photographer is going to use this amateurish crap, so obviously my entire scenario won't ever happen.

I apologize everyone!  dmilligan has set me straight.


we didnt expect that the ML userbase also includes people that have no fucking sense of humor.

Funny would be making the camera act strangely ONCE and popping up an April's Fool's message.  Then the user laughs, "Ha ha, Magic Lantern got me."

What's NOT funny is randomly making the camera act strangely for the ENTIRE day with no apparent reason why.  Maybe I don't have a sense of humor because I don't see how that's funny.  Yes, that's funny on Mr. Bean when it's happening to someone else.  It's not funny when it's happening to you as you're trying to get a shot.  And how is the user supposed to know it's joke and not a frustrating bug or problem with his camera?

At the very least this "joke" needs an April Fool's message so people know it's a joke and not a bug, and it also needs to happen just once, NOT RANDOMLY THE ENTIRE FUCKING DAY.

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Re: April Fools joke? WTF ML!!
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2015, 11:19:23 PM »
Maybe time to stop feeding the troll.


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Re: April Fools joke? WTF ML!!
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2015, 12:01:55 AM »
Best April fools joke EVER!