5D MK III - Installed but when I restart it, the firmware is Canon, not ML

Started by keyjonathan, July 24, 2014, 06:12:33 AM

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keyjonathan

So I was almost embarrassed to ask because I've installed it fine for my 550D in the past.
Anyway, I got a MK III recently so I wanted to add ML.

But the nightly build of the MK III (1.2.3) isn't working on mine. Or rather when I turn it on and click the trash button, nothing happens.

Everything in this video happens to mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLSYI7CWkbQ
So I successfully install it, it says to restart.

I turn off, I turn on and click the trash button but no menu.

Any help would be much appreciated!

NOTES:
When I turn it on and go to firmware, it says 1.2.3, no ML
I'm using a SanDisk Ultra 16GB SDHC, Class 4
It's on Manual Mode the whole time

Walter Schulz

Insert card into cam, format card.
Access http://pel.hu/eoscard/ and download zip file containing Canon's firmware version 1.2.3
Expand contents and copy FIR file to card (cardreader)
Run firmware upgrade from Canon's menu.
When done format card again.

Download ML nightly for 5DIII 1.2.3 and extract contents. Copy extracted contents to card (cardreader).
Insert card into cam and run Canon's firmware upgrade again. Restart cam before timeout runs off.

Results?

spnsir

^ If that doesn't fix it, I'd research setting the bootflag (with whichever firmware you're going with). It sounds like either you aren't setting the bootflag, or your card isn't enabled as bootable via macboot or eoscard.

Walter Schulz

EOScard/Macboot is not part of the most recent installation procedure for ML running on firmware 1.2.3!

keyjonathan

I didn't do the EOScard/Macboot

Here's what I did

Put SD card in camera
Format it in camera
Take it out
Copy ML files on SD card
Put in SD card
Turn on camera
Update Firmware
Says it's installed
Turn it On
Not there?

Apologies if I'm missing something super obvious
Here are some shots via my bad phone camera:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1332205/IMG_20140724_220218.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1332205/IMG_20140724_220247.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1332205/IMG_20140724_220351.jpg

Thanks for helping me out! :)

Walter Schulz

There may (may!) be issues with different Canon firmware versions running as 1.2.3 out there. Devs mentioned it some time ago but not sure if 1.2.3 is one of those.
Because of this I recommend to run Canon firmware 1.2.3 installation from Pelican's source once again.

BTW: Write protection slider set to off?

rpt

Quote from: keyjonathan on July 24, 2014, 02:10:23 PM
I didn't do the EOScard/Macboot

Here's what I did

Put SD card in camera
Format it in camera
Take it out
Copy ML files on SD card
Put in SD card
Turn on camera
Update Firmware
Says it's installed
Turn it On
Not there?

Apologies if I'm missing something super obvious
Here are some shots via my bad phone camera:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1332205/IMG_20140724_220218.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1332205/IMG_20140724_220247.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1332205/IMG_20140724_220351.jpg

Thanks for helping me out! :)
The second pic looks to me like you waited out the 30 secs. Did you reboot before the 30 sec time out?

jimmyD30

Yeah, looks like you're installing ML, then removing the BOOT FLAG by waiting too long (>30 secs) before restarting your camera.

Do the install and restart the camera BEFORE the 30 secs runs out or you'll just end up back to square one ;)

keyjonathan

Thanks, that was the answer
Follow up question:
Will the bootloader stay disabled now?
Because that effects startup time, yes?

Walter Schulz

Quote from: keyjonathan on July 25, 2014, 10:49:16 AMWill the bootloader stay disabled now?

Sorry?
Bootloader? Do you mean camera's bootflag?
If this is disabled ML won't load at all.

rpt

Quote from: keyjonathan on July 25, 2014, 10:49:16 AM
Thanks, that was the answer
Follow up question:
Will the bootloader stay disabled now?
Because that effects startup time, yes?
If you want ML, reinstall it and turn the camera off before the 30 sec time is out.

keyjonathan

Sorry, I meant bootflag. (just typed the wrong thing)

So with the previous ML builds for MK III, didn't it have a noticeable boot time delay?
And with the new one, this was fixed...so does it stay that way by default?

jimmyD30

I think I know what you're referring too, if the boot flag is on and you're not using a card with ML installed, then there's a 2-second or so camera boot delay (I guess as camera searches for ML?)

Not sure if this has been improved upon, but it would only be a concern if ML is not on card. Also, the big concern was that at the time the boot flag could not be turned off with the 5DM3, that's no longer the case, boot flag can now be removed from camera.