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Title says it all. I got a wedding to shoot next weekend. This time around I am going to go all RAW (probably 12-bit lossless from UHD/3K/4K experimental) and the question boils down to how should I accomadate Cinelog DCP together w either WideDR or C-Log color profiles flawlessly.

Because previously the last wedding I shot everything in H264 w crop_rec build for 5D3's in Faithful (0,1,2,0) together with C100II in Standard EOS color profiles which was critical when exposing for subjects. Not very forgiving in Highlights or Shadows.

Hence the reason why I'm biting the bullet this time to go all RAW in order to give myself the extra flexibility & latitudes in post since I'll be color grading them before I hand them off to clients for them to edit themselves (the last wedding's client wanted the footage ready straight out of the cameras for him to take home on the night of and wasn't comfortable w flat log's/color-grading, etc.) so for those of you have done something in similar, please share your thoughts or experiences, if any. 

I know you're probably reading this @Andy600 - but really thinking that I may be better off (even tho I should avoid from using this) to shoot Standard EOS color profile on the C100II to better match with RAW if I were to apply Cinelog-C w Canon Faithful LUT on top from the LUT bank?

However, I would prefer to shoot in WideDR (or C-Log) if I could but not sure how to match RAW w Cinelog-C (certain LUT's) unless I create my own from Davinci Resolve by matching the scopes, right?  :P

Personally, I would really love to be able to use @hyalinejim's Ektar 100 LUT's (either be TWISTED or ADVANCED_02) on top of Cinelog-C for RAW together w C100II's C-Log only if I had a proper LUT to use in order to better match w the RAW's Cinelog-C colorspace + Ektar 100 files.

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Share Your Videos / 5D3 RAW (10-bit) Jen & Tom | 1.28.17 (Rough cut part 1)
« on: February 04, 2017, 06:21:33 PM »
5D3 + 24-105L in 30p (ISO 200-800) @ 1080p MLV RAW (10-bit) shot handheld in New Orleans, Louisiana @ The Mule Barn next to Plantation.

Build used: ML-crop3x.2017Jan13.5D3123 (from experimental page: https://builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html)

Post-workflow: MLV > Cr2hdr.app (Thanks @Danne!) > AE (Cinelog-DCP + Cinelog_Filmlook #4 -- Thanks @Andy600) > ProRes422HQ

https://vimeo.com/202492007

Sorry for being a dumbass after getting all drunk and not getting my lens/mirror cleaned out (notice the dust line?) before this event. I attended as one of the Grooms and couldn't help not bringing Magic Lantern's magic with me either. I also was able to mask this out somewhat spotlessly with CC Wire Removal plugin in AE but then it would take over 350 hours to render it all out. May have to wait until the final versions with less footage to use. So excuse me for this! :-X

Oh and btw because of using 10-bit (instead of 14 or 12) I was able to record for over an hour and 15 minutes worth of footage in MLV RAW on each KB 256GB 1066x CF cards while shooting in 30p @ 1920x1080p continuously until it gets filled which is pretty awesome in terms of being able to shoot more freely minded and less stressful of not needing to swap out cards as often if we were to shoot in higher bits.

However, I must admit that I wasn't able to take advantage of the mighty fine DarkFraming Avg process with 10-bit MLV files -- for some reason it doesn't 'clean up the color noise' as much as it does with the 14-bit MLV's files (haven't tested this for 12-bit in comparisons yet tho) but has anyone else notice this on your end as well?  :o

Anyway felt like this was worth sharing that it is okay to admit something we didn't mean for to happen and shit DOES happen, right?

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Because for years we have been able to go to 'Recent unread Posts' and 'Show new replies to your post' on the usual top left corner of the ML Forum webpage.



It's almost completely useless on web pages as it's forcing ourselves to go under Forum and scroll down and manually find out which one is which.

Is there a reason why that these two links got taken down or is it a bug? Unreported or not but I think we should be able to get them back at the very least.

It just basically slows down my work and being able to keep up with you guys is much more difficult without having those two suitable buttons to links.

Anyone else dealing with this in an unexpected similar situation as well?

Until then I'll be using Tapatalk in the meantime as I obviously prefer to do this kind of work on the web page (Macbook, Mac, etc) whenever I can.

Thanks all!

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Hardware and Accessories / Atomos Ninja Assassin Or Sound Devices Pix 220?
« on: February 16, 2016, 02:27:29 AM »
Hello all-

I know this is basically like comparing Apples and Oranges but felt this was worth to ask around ...

I've been saving up to get myself a decent Monitor that can also record into ProRes for back-up's or per Client's request and such.

•ATOMOS NINJA ASSASSIN ($995) which is currently on sale coming down from $1295 which seems legit to me.

•SOUND DEVICE PIX 220 ($999) which is also on sale coming down from a hefty $1749 which seems too good to be true but yes it's real.

However, I have come to a conclusion that with the Ninja Assassin I'll need to make a seperate purchase of a SSD to use with it which is cheap those days. I can probably scoop up a 500GB for less than $200 so it isn't exactly biting too much out of my wallet.

Even tho the Pix 220 uses CF cards (which I have TONS of them) so I figured this would be the most ideal way of doing this but the one thing that I question is why is the price reduced so much and also learned that this Device has been around a few years longer than the Ninja Assassin so maybe that plays a role into this?

I'm starting to lean myself towards to the Atomos ... Chime in your thoughts or experiences and Thanks for reading this!

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All-

I thought of an idea (Thanks to @dfort & @Danne for jump starting this since I am obviously no expert in here ha!) to start a thread in discussion about proper ways of using certain LUTS in one of my favorite app/converters of all time which is @Danne's MLP for Mac OS X (even works well with MLVFS together to save some Disk Space) for new comers and/or to those that are curious on how it works exactly as it is indeed quite interesting and yet extremely useful to several of us including myself.

At the end of the day all of this is just so much fun and a beautiful piece of art that just never stops blooming regardless of how frustrating it may seem to most of us trying to learn on how to get the most out of Magic Lantern MLV RAW files in terms of achieving high Dynamic Range and Fabulous Colors along with Sharpness in Details, right?

So basically what am I hoping to gain out of this thread is mainly for all of us to consolidate and share our theories together in what we believe works best or doesn't work as well when combining your favorite LUTS Combo in the Lut_Hold Folder within MLP's workflow. If you don't know what I'm talking about then you obviously haven't tried MLP yet and please do give it a try because it's just awesome!

Admittedly, I have been a long-time user of Adobe AE's workflow (with ACR & SmartImport2) despite of the ridiculously long-ass rendering times (often though for good reasons) due to their masterful algorithm which renders out wonderful images especially in the shadows area for those massive MLV files. However, over the years I have slowly allow myself to absorb as much as possible into DaVinci Resolve 12's workflow (Thanks @baldanvenger for getting me on track!) and the more I play with it ... the more I understand why so many people use this free application over others, even the paid ones.

Not even sure if this is even a good idea? But the one thing I know for sure ... is the fact that this thread is definitely going to not only benefit me but for all of you guys on board as well in the long run while at the same time getting more of you Mac Guru's out there to use MLP for Mac OS X more often!  ;D

Let's get this party started...

Here are few examples:
MLP                                                                        DR12


https://vimeo.com/150005411

https://vimeo.com/150040638

https://vimeo.com/150147470

Questions/Concerns?

Chime on in...

On the To-Do's List:
•Screenflow of how I use MLP's LUTS.
•Screenshots of footage comparisons within MLP, AE, DR12.
•(if you guys can think of one ... comment me!)
•I'll do my best to maintain this thread!  8)

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Out of these three so called Fish-Eye lenses...

Which would you choose to go with our Canons and why?

Either for FF or APS-C.

Thank you!

*edit*

Obviously my main goal for this is to be able to use it during crop-mode recording since my Rokinon 14mm 3.1 is a bit too tight.

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BTW--I got a Nikon 2x tele extender on ebay pretty cheap. That might do the trick for you. Love how you can adapt so many lenses so easily to the EOS-M. Nikon manual lenses on Canon bodies are a staple with stop motion animation because they don't flicker.

Question... does it make more sense to go with Nikon Teleconverter as oppose to Canon's even if I use Canon adapters on the Nikon lenses that I use?

Because if I do use a Nikon Teleconverter then that means I'll still need to use an adapter on it and just use the Nikon lens on the converter WITHOUT the adapter in between.

I thought of this only because I wasn't sure Nikon glass going through a Canon glass would cause some weird artifacts or something strange... better or worse who knows?

May be worth to try both haha but here's what I found online for used Nikon teleconverters:

https://www.keh.com/search/list?s=Nikon+Teleconverter+TC-201

Which one of these is the one that you use?

Thanks, @dfort!

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I guess this may be impolite to ask many of you fellow ML users according to from your experiences with any of these cameras....

Out of these four -- which should I choose for and why?

Personally I don't care for the cost (since I can find them all used online in similar to it's price except for the 7D possible another $100 more or less so) but may refrain myself to get the 650D due to it's SD card only compatible and limited writing speeds of 41 MB/s (correct me if I'm wrong).

So in my head I have been thinking just to get the 7D instead of the 50D for obvious reasons.

But something in my gut is telling me to go with the 600D instead because it basically annihilates the other twos in terms of how much Features it includes via ML especially with its Audio Controls and whatnot.

Though admittedly I am tempted to use the crop-mode hack that includes in only the 650D out of the three which is a nice feature to use for h264 stuff.

I wouldn't be asking this if the 5D3's could simply just include the crop-mode hack already in their nightlies... Maybe one of these days!

Thanks for your time!

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Share Your Videos / Fernando's 5D2 MLV test run with Cinelog-C
« on: July 30, 2015, 07:39:28 PM »
Hello All -

A close friend of mine from work decided to give it a shot after years of convincing him that ML would bring a whole another life to his precious 5D2 (yes I said that right, 5D markII) and after succesfully installing the latest nightly on it... Suddenly I got all the goosebumps probably from being a previous owner of this somewhat still an incredible camera that I sold long ago for good reason(s).

Because the Nightlies just seems nicer than 5D3 in terms of Audio Controls, etc... but then again there are also some few things that 5D2 does not include what the 5D3 has in their Nightlies, such as FPS override, Shutter fine-tune controls, etc... respectively!

Anyway back on topic of this particular thread... I took the MLV's from his camera and started experimenting with Cinelog-C on it and I must admit that the 5D3 definitely produces better quality (by not much but still noticeable) in terms of MLV RAW when combining with LUT's and whatnot.

Shot on 5D2 in MLV 23.97 fps 1856x1044 with 35mm Zeiss 2.8 @ ISO 200-800

Post-Workflow as follows:

@Danne's cr2hdr-r_10 > AE (SmartImport2 w Cinelog-C) > FCPX (final grade)

https://vimeo.com/134922395 https://vimeo.com/134922397

https://vimeo.com/134922392 https://vimeo.com/134922394

https://vimeo.com/134922396 https://vimeo.com/134922393


Screenshot Comparisons:

Pre-Graded Cinelog-C                                              Post-Graded Cinelog-C





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Post-processing Workflow / mLUT anyone?
« on: June 19, 2015, 10:43:07 AM »
Hello-

I just ran into this plugin and wanted to reach out to those who may have experience with them -- find them intuitive at all or not?

mLUT

I know for $99 it is a little steep. However, I seem to only want the plugin itself but even though it comes with a pack of 30 preset LUT's of their own.

Chime in your thoughts.

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Hello Fellow ML users-

Here are the few specs I've decided to come down for MBP before ordering it...

1) http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MJLQ2LL/A&step=config ($3099)
15-inch MacBook Pro with Retina display
2.8GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 4.0GHz
16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
1TB PCIe-based Flash Storage
Intel Iris Pro Graphics
Force Touch trackpad
Backlit Keyboard (English) & User's Guide
Accessory Kit


2) http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MJLT2LL/A&step=config ($3200)
15-inch MacBook Pro with Retina display
2.8GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 4.0GHz
16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
1TB PCIe-based Flash Storage
Intel Iris Pro Graphics + AMD Radeon R9 M370X with 2GB GDDR5 memory
Force Touch trackpad
Backlit Keyboard (English) & User's Guide
Accessory Kit


To me it is a no brainer to go with #2 for $100 more to get the better graphic cards (Intel Iris Pro + AMD Radeon R9 M370X)

Thoughts?

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Share Your Videos / 'Malbec' -- MLV shot on EOS-M w Nikkor 50 1.4 AI
« on: June 10, 2015, 09:22:55 AM »
Well Folks--

Decided to give one last shot with the EOS-M before I put it up for sale (due to the pink dot nightmares!) no kidding -- so before I go ahead and start this thread...

I first want to say Thanks to @a1ex, @Danne, @dmilligan, @Andy600 & as well as everyone else on board @ ML for keeping me alive and I can't be more proud of how great this community is for everyone, including myself!

So without you guys -- this EOS-M would have been long gone from my boat and MLVFS literally saved the whole show (Thanks @dmilligan) by applying the bad pixel fix as well as the CS2x2 enabled within WebGUI and exported as ProRes4444XQ in Cinelog-C (Thanks @Andy600).

Then I take the ProRes files to FCPX where I apply two LUTs ('Cinelog-C_to_Eastman_100T_5247_Warm'.cube @ 100% + 'dan_log_01_to_Contrast_03'.cube @ 9% -- Thanks @Danne for your customized LUTS!) combined together within the LUT Utility plugin and according to my eyes, it looks candy!  :P

Here are the breakdown in screenshots for your convenience:

Shot in 24fps (override on) in 1536x518 (16x9) with ETTR.
1/48th, ISO 200 @ f1.4
Nikkor 50mm 1.4 AI (w adapter)


MLVFS (w BadPixel Fix + CS2x2 enabled ON):



LUT Utility (FCPX):



'Malbec' Cinelog-C comparisons via LUT Utility FCPX:
https://vimeo.com/130462704


Cinelog-C (ungraded):

https://vimeo.com/130294091


'Cinelog-C_to_Eastman_100T_5247_Warm':

https://vimeo.com/130294093


'Cinelog-C_to_Eastman_100T_5247_Warm' + 'dan_log_01_to_Contrast_03':

https://vimeo.com/130294092

...and where'd the pink dots go? Bad-Pixel Fix & CS2x2 via MLVFS did the trick and Thanks to everyone for their contributions!

Not bad for a $200 camera...

 8)

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General Chat / Nikkor 85 f2 AI-S vs. Nikkor 105 f2.5 AI
« on: June 08, 2015, 09:48:17 AM »
Hello all-

I'm literally on the fence between these two lenses -- any one out there have any suggestions/oppositions from experience of their own?

I found good deals on both of them in used condition online (85 for $175 & 105 for $140) and I'm leaning towards more to the 85 f2 AI-S...

Thoughts?

p.s. Yes, I use these glass to shoot RAW with 5D3 and such... so much fun!

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Share Your Videos / Holden's Key (Cinelog-C)
« on: March 30, 2015, 10:27:14 PM »
5D3 (shot in MLV raw) @ 25fps with 16-35L II in Old San Juan Town, Puerto Rico.

https://vimeo.com/123662877

Workflow:

MLVFS > AE (ACR smartimport2) > FCPX

I made a mistake exporting from AE (it spitted out 30fps ProRes when I shot in 25fps)

Will do another proper export when timing persist.

Thanks for watching!

*EDIT 1*

Thanks @JADURCA for giving me pointers on places to go visit in the beautiful island of Puerto Rico!  8)

Here's the 2nd version since I managed to get them render out ProRes 4444 XQ in the correct settings (25fps instead of 30fps)

https://vimeo.com/123749126

Workflow: MLVFS > AE (ACR) > FCPX (Will do another export of this once I get my knowledge down with the Cinelog LUTS - Thanks @Andy600)

Gotta love how the crop-mode makes the 16-35L II look precisely sharp when spot on!

*EDIT 2*

As promised as I would get my hands down with Cinelog-C...

Finally at last... (at least somewhat to me)

Got myself through this hefty road to Cinelog-C's infamous workflow and wow I must say I LOVE it!!!

Again, this is the video I shot regarding Holden's Key being handcrafted in Puerto Rico and as previously stated that I would do another export once I got my hands down with Cinelog-C (THANKS to @Andy600) especially with my favorite adobe apps...

However, I could have stuck with Adobe all the way but couldn't resist the fact about how sexy it is to use LUTS on FCPX within the new LUT Utility plugin with ease. Also Gotta LOVE OpenColorIO in AE (wish someone could help/lead me to a direction to get this one working for PR) -- it's such a sweet plugin!

Workflow as follows:

MLVFS > AE CC 12.1 (SmartImport2 via ACR with Cinelog log applied in OCIO ) export as ProRes4444XQ > FCPX (Used Cinelog-C to REC709 Full LUT & export as H.264 for Vimeo)

Will post video of this workflow soon when timing persist.

Enjoy!

https://vimeo.com/124086438

Special Thanks to @Andy600 for your amazing products!

Please welcome any critics since I know this is far from perfect.

But close enough.

Because I had used Cinelog-C, may need to expose down another half stop or so in ACR... It's all part of the learning curve, right?  :P

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Share Your Photos / NoHo_Sunset 3/14/15
« on: March 16, 2015, 10:36:47 PM »
On my way home from work... saw this puddle of water during pre-sunset in NoHo, Los Angeles, USA few days ago...

Unfortunately with the test build I was using on my 5D3 during this time (which didn't include Dual-ISO module) since it was mainly for FRSP purpose. Oops!  8)

So here's what I got... not bad for a non-Dual-ISO, eh? lol

Graded in ACR via PS:



MLVFS > AE (used same .XMP setting file) > PP:
https://vimeo.com/122363848 https://vimeo.com/122369357

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Shot in RAW/MLV on 5D3 113 in 1920 x 1038, 29.97 fps @ISO 100-500:
-16-35L II (w Polfilter Circular Slim filter)
-24-105L
-50L

Mixed footage of RAW, MLV, Dual-ISO (ISO 100-1600) and few HDR videos as well as several 3x Crop-mode's.
(CROP-MODE Fever: Just under the final 13 minutes was entirely shot on a 50L so you'll get to see how much it actually helps using 3x crop for certain shots)

Gotta love the DR's from Dual-ISO's ;)

Workflow:
cr2hdr-r > MLRV (for Dual-ISO ProRes) > PP

-All UNGRADED, shot as it is and just purely RAW.


-GRADED with Cineon Converter via PP (I actually lost all of my LUT's that were on an external drive which busted out (2nd one in a few months) on me just the other night and gotta get it retrieved soon):

*MLRV Screenshots*


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General Help Q&A / DNG Preview's not showing in 10.10.1 OS X (Yosemite)
« on: January 05, 2015, 09:38:46 AM »
I was hoping I didn't need to post this after weeks of trying to overcome this annoying issue I'm currently facing on my newly custom-built Mac Mini that I just got few weeks ago.

Currently running OS X 10.10.1 on my 2006 MBP and DNG's preview works fine after hitting space bar through the files.

But NOT on the Mac Mini (even with the latest Adobe DNG converter 8.7.1) so I've tried downgrading and still no avail solution for this...

I know I can preview through ACR, LR5, etc... but if I need a quick preview going through files (after pressing space bar - pops up black screen) then how come I can't do it this way?

Thoughts?


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Share Your Videos / Cinelog v2.0 LUT quick test
« on: November 12, 2014, 10:54:53 AM »
Just because I'm bored, went ahead and purchased newer version of Cinelog v.2.0 earlier tonight.

Decided to throw up how quickly and nice it can all be applied and done in solely of MLRawViewer alone. (special thanks to @baldand)

After just a few clicks...
http://vimeo.com/111614300

5D3
16-35L II
29.77 fps (FPS override disabled)
1/60, ISO 400, @ 35mm (3X crop mode in MLV RAW)
LUTS applied (Linear to Log-C & Cinelog v2.0 to Rec. 709 w Cinelog Color [3D LUT] 63B 685w HL Recovery

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Raw Video Postprocessing / What are your favorite LUT combo's?
« on: October 22, 2014, 07:47:21 AM »
What are your favorite LUT combos when using MlRawViewer? (or any application for that matter!)

Here are few of mine...

5D3 24-105L 1/50 f4.0 ISO 1600 @ 96mm
1920 x 1080 24.00 FPS
Curve: Rec.709
3D LUT: Alexa LogC to Rec709

5D3 24-105L 1/50 f4.0 ISO 640
1920 x 1080 24.00 FPS
Curve: Rec.709
3D LUT: Kino51 BRIGHTER TOOL4
1D LUT2:Linear to Log 1

5D3 24-105L 1/50 f4.0 ISO 320
1920 x 1080 24.00 FPS
Curve: Rec.709
3D LUT: S-Curve_for_CineStyle

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General Chat / Worth to upgrade to Yosemite on Mac?
« on: October 20, 2014, 08:04:55 AM »
Magicians--

As always, I like to check regarding the latest upgrade from OS X in Yosemite with my fellow users. As I am currently still in Mavericks only because all of the apps that we use for our post work suits well and barely any flaws as of yet.

Or am I better off just stick with what I have now and wait until all the updates come along for Yosemite?

Thanks all!

SJ

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Share Your Videos / My first DUAL-ISO RAW Video Test with EOS-M
« on: September 22, 2014, 08:00:28 AM »
I shot in RAW resolution 1344x538, 1/50, 24p (FPS Override set to 24.000) w 22mm STM, Dual ISO (100/1600) and closed the iris down to f12 for ETTR effect.

Workflow:
originally I convert the RAW files with MLVMytic (Beta 0.5) with the Dual-ISO settings on. Worked well but couldn't figure out why ACR couldn't read the DNG files from the MLVMystic (Beta 0.5) version? (probably because they are technically CinemaDNG which should work fine with DaVinci Resolve but my old macbook pro doesn't hold up with the real time playback very well.

So I went back to the good old fashion way of exporting the CDNG through Adobe LightRoom5 to fine-tune & color grade them and then export as TIFF files.

THEN Open IMAGE SEQUENCE in Quicktime 7 and exported as quicktime format in 1920x720 422 HQ.. (I'm starting to think I could have not stretched it out as much) but oh well its just a test!

p.s. I tried to use RAWTHERAPEE to try and get rid of the hot/dead pixels that the EOS-M usually produces... SO FRUSTRATING! I can only open one file at a time to get the effect to work and Im not sure how to batch them all together to make it quicker. Probably will get this task done on the next test!

I am still seeing a bunch of aliasing going on...  :-\

http://vimeo.com/106783237

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Share Your Videos / 5D3 Dual-ISO RAW Video Test Comparisons (night time)
« on: December 04, 2013, 10:26:26 PM »
Magicians -

Here I came up with a thought of taking Dual ISO RAW Video recordings of outdoors by the City Hall/Fire House in Los Angeles, CA while waiting for my step-daughter to finish her Girl Scout meeting. This was taken at night for test purposes!

I've also decided to push the boundaries to the next level by doing three sets of different Dual's (100/1600, 400/3200 & 800/6400) just for the heck of it and to see how it compares in its performance.

The entire testing was done with ETTR, 1/48th, 14mm T3.1

Workflow as usual - Raw2dng (0.13)/ cr2hdr (1.6)/ ACR (8.2)/ Quicktime (7)

Enjoy and THANKS to A1ex & ML crew!

Dual-ISO (100/1600)

Dual-ISO (400/3200)

Dual-ISO (800/6400)

Dual-ISO (100/1600) <-- (watch what happens when the car pulls in reverse to park..its rather strange!)

Dual-ISO (400/3200)

Dual-ISO (800/6400)

Dual-ISO (100/1600)

Dual-ISO (400/3200)

Dual-ISO (800/6400)

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Share Your Videos / 5D3 Dual-ISO RAW Video Test #1 (ISO 100/800)
« on: November 21, 2013, 07:28:50 AM »
Magicians -

Once again here's one of my first tests with Dual ISO Raw Video recording with ISO 100/800.

I have tried two different known methods of workflows for Mac (from this forum) in attempt to try and avoid the flickering as well as the horizontal lines...FRUSTRATING!


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To be able to manually turn on or off the PowerSaving mode...

I thought of an idea -- if you want to be able to have control over this with out the expense of giving up the actual INFO menu sections.

Perhaps can we use the button that usually turns on the back light on the top right LCD viewer?

Or has this already been discussed somewhere in the forum that I may have missed?

If so, I apologize but it can't hurt to share...

Thanks to A1ex & ML

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