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Magic Lantern Releases => Camera-specific discussion => Topic started by: jordancolburn on December 30, 2013, 10:21:20 PM

Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: jordancolburn on December 30, 2013, 10:21:20 PM
The nightly build is now available here:
http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/

Installation:
1) Format the card from the camera.
2) Make sure you are running Canon firmware 2.0.2 (http://pel.hu/down/eosm-v202-win.zip).
3) Copy ML files on the card and run Firmware Update.

Uninstallation:
1) Run Firmware Update from your ML card.
2) Follow the instructions.

(http://a1ex.magiclantern.fm/bleeding-edge/new-installer.png)

Thanks a1ex   //Audionut.



I moved some of the great  work 1% did to get ML functioning on the EOSM for firmware 2.02 back into the main ML code base.  I'm sure its missing some features and bugs from it's TL counterpart, but if you are interested in testing ML and helping make it stable and in sync with the code for other ML cameras for all base features, please comment here and I'll do my best to port 1%s bugfixes, or to test, create issues for new bugs and attempt to solve.  IMO, the main focus is ensuring all basic ML functions work well before branching out to things like raw video.

(I have not tried the nightly yet, but my own local compile from a few nights ago works for me)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jordancolburn on December 31, 2013, 04:31:13 AM
Finally got a chance to test the nightly.  It works for me, with a couple of bugs the I plan to work on.  The canon menus seem to briefly overlay the ML menus during things like half shutter presses and autofocus face recognition, but this does not seem to affect taking pictures or video.  Also, if you switch the camera off when in 3x crop movie mode and change to a card without ML, there is no way to go back to regular movie mode without rebooting from a ML card and changing it back to uncropped movie mode.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on December 31, 2013, 05:23:14 AM
thanx Jordan. The display for the shutter seems strange with all the numbers and letters. Can we get the normal 1/48 and so on back? Headphone does not work. I did record some raw at 720p24, but I don't think it is MLV. There was no playback of the file in the File Manager section like before.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Deedre on December 31, 2013, 07:29:38 AM
I moved some of the great  work 1% did to get ML functioning on the EOSM for firmware 2.02 back into the main ML code base.  I'm sure its missing some features and bugs from it's TL counterpart, but if you are interested in testing ML and helping make it stable and in sync with the code for other ML cameras for all base features, please comment here and I'll do my best to port 1%s bugfixes, or to test, create issues for new bugs and attempt to solve.  IMO, the main focus is ensuring all basic ML functions work well before branching out to things like raw video.

The nightly build is now available here:
http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/

(I have not tried the nightly yet, but my own local compile from a few nights ago works for me)

Hi, I'm new here. I've been using ML on my T2i for over two years now. So when I got my EOS-M last month I was elated to know that there was ML for it. I do mostly video with my cameras and audio controls are the most important features to me. Is there a build that has the controls featured on the homepage EOS-M pic?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Canon eos m on December 31, 2013, 12:45:52 PM
I have tested the latest release of the EOS ML firmware. There are quite a few bugs and some features do not seem to be active yet. Dual ISO/ ETTR need some working on.

The pink dots while RAW recording are still seen. RAW video replay does not work.

However, I just discovered the H.264 recording at 3X zoom. And wow! This feature alone makes this release worth a million bucks.

Hope to see more coming on in the coming days, weeks and months. Thank you for the great work.

A fan of all ML  ;)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Oswald on December 31, 2013, 01:54:20 PM

However, I just discovered the H.264 recording at 3X zoom. And wow! This feature alone makes this release worth a million bucks.
How you make it?  Video? :)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Canon eos m on December 31, 2013, 02:48:13 PM
How you make it?  Video? :)

Not difficult. H.264 will record as your camera normally should record.

Go to the ML video interface. Keep RAW recording off. Put the camera in video mode by choosing this option on the dial on top left of the camera. Push the red record button and you will have recorded both video and audio.

Play around with the settings a bit. Choosing VBR and higher bit rates will improve the video quality substantially. 
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on December 31, 2013, 03:56:39 PM
it would be good to have the audio return to it's ON state after shooting raw and then going back to shooting H264. Raw disables the sound, so enable the audio when we disable the raw settings to go back to H264.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jordancolburn on December 31, 2013, 03:59:55 PM
How you make it?  Video? :)
There is a setting under the video tab in the ML menu that lets you turn on/off the 3x crop.  This uses the center area of the sensor and gets rid of moire and aliasing.  With the 22mm lens, this feature gives you a lot of flexibility to get semi-wide and close up shots in a small package.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on December 31, 2013, 03:59:59 PM
Fix the red box temp settings. I have posted before that it is definitely incorrect saying it is Centigrade. It should be down to around 30C and my M is always showing around 100C more or less even when I first turn it on.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on December 31, 2013, 04:01:30 PM
There is a setting under the video tab in the ML menu that lets you turn on/off the 3x crop.  This uses the center area of the sensor and gets rid of moire and aliasing.  With the 22mm lens, this feature gives you a lot of flexibility to get semi-wide and close up shots in a small package.
I believe it also gets rid of aliasing and moire since it is not using line skipping algorithms.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jordancolburn on December 31, 2013, 04:03:21 PM
it would be good to have the audio return to it's ON state after shooting raw and then going back to shooting H264. Raw disables the sound, so enable the audio when we disable the raw settings to go back to H264.
Thanks, I think this was an issue on TL as well.  I will add it to the list.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jordancolburn on December 31, 2013, 04:04:22 PM
Fix the red box temp settings. I have posted before that it is definitely incorrect saying it is Centigrade. It should be down to around 30C and my M is always showing around 100C more or less even when I first turn it on.
Yes, I think there might be more than just changing C to F going on.  My camera has shown temps of 100C after just turning on in a cool room, and the camera is very cool to the touch.  I will add this as well.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jordancolburn on December 31, 2013, 04:35:47 PM
I have tested the latest release of the EOS ML firmware. There are quite a few bugs and some features do not seem to be active yet. Dual ISO/ ETTR need some working on.

The pink dots while RAW recording are still seen. RAW video replay does not work.

However, I just discovered the H.264 recording at 3X zoom. And wow! This feature alone makes this release worth a million bucks.
I think ETTR hints on the menu are correct, but the actual feature isn't correct.  I have not tried dual ISO on any camera, so I can't speak to that, but again, my focus is weird menu things, audio/video features before working on dual ISO, raw, etc.

Pink dots are just what this camera does from hardware, the pink dot remover will take care of that.  Raw playback was working (slowly) on TL, so when I get to working on that, it shouldn't be too bad to pull over.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jordancolburn on December 31, 2013, 04:37:13 PM
thanx Jordan. The display for the shutter seems strange with all the numbers and letters. Can we get the normal 1/48 and so on back? Headphone does not work. I did record some raw at 720p24, but I don't think it is MLV. There was no playback of the file in the File Manager section like before.

I'll look into the shutter display.  I  never tried it, but I don't think headphone was ever working, even on TL.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on December 31, 2013, 08:15:42 PM

I'll look into the shutter display.  I  never tried it, but I don't think headphone was ever working, even on TL.
I forgot to say the shutter "menu settings", not the main display screen.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: atomas72 on January 01, 2014, 06:54:17 PM
Hi all,
I tryed some versions of PDR but no one seems to work, where I can find a correct PDR for this eos-ml version?
Thanks,
Tom
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tob on January 01, 2014, 10:12:10 PM
I moved some of the great  work 1% did to get ML functioning on the EOSM for firmware 2.02 back into the main ML code base.  I'm sure its missing some features and bugs from it's TL counterpart, but if you are interested in testing ML and helping make it stable and in sync with the code for other ML cameras for all base features, please comment here and I'll do my best to port 1%s bugfixes, or to test, create issues for new bugs and attempt to solve.  IMO, the main focus is ensuring all basic ML functions work well before branching out to things like raw video.

The nightly build is now available here:
http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/

(I have not tried the nightly yet, but my own local compile from a few nights ago works for me)


Did you figure out the shutter bug?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jordancolburn on January 02, 2014, 01:21:29 AM

Did you figure out the shutter bug?
No, I'm not sure I've seen any steps to reproduce it, and I haven't experienced it myself.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jordancolburn on January 02, 2014, 01:27:05 AM
I forgot to say the shutter "menu settings", not the main display screen.
Yeah, the menu settings are really weird, I will look into fixing it.  As a work around you can see what the actual shutter value is by pressing set while on the shutter menu to hide the rest of the menu options and looking at bottom ML bar.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Canon eos m on January 02, 2014, 03:09:32 AM
Keep up the good work.
You have rekindled my joy in using the EOSM.
Like I said before, the 3x mode on H.264 is fantastic. The quality is almost cinema grade - better than the RAW output on my 5d Mark3 - or am I dreaming?
After using the EOSM these past few days, I have to really force myself to pick up my 5DM3 for anything at all.
One wish is to see the pinkdot issue vanish magically (w/o having to use the PDR).
Second, when recording on VBR mode at -16 bit rate, the first few videos are reasonably long (about 1 minute or more), but all video recordings that follow are not more than 3-5 seconds even if I bring down the bit rate. There seems to be a bug somewhere. 



Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on January 02, 2014, 05:19:41 AM
No, I'm not sure I've seen any steps to reproduce it, and I haven't experienced it myself.
I still have the shutter bug but I have a workaround that I explained before in detail. Basically, I have to do a second format in the Canon menu keeping the ML files on the card. The downside is I lose my 8gb exfat format because Canon turns it back to the 4gb format. If I try a new exfat format on my computer, as soon as I put the card back in the camera, it makes me do a new fir install and then the shutter bug is back. So, I still hope the shutterbug gets fixed so I can use my camera with an exfat format for 8gb recordings. 8gb helps for doing interviews.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Ortwin on January 03, 2014, 06:23:26 PM
All of the new EOS M nightly builds so far seem to be missing the .FIR-file for installation. I checked one of the logs an there indeed seemed to be an error when building it.

Can I upgrade from Tragic Lantern to these new builds without reinstalling the fimware update on my camera?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: 1% on January 03, 2014, 10:22:49 PM
Yes, after you have the boot flag set you can add any bin/ml files that will run.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: RavingRover on January 04, 2014, 07:17:41 AM

I have a 60/80 MBps SDHC UHS-I card, I can get up to 140mbps compressed video with this card - CBR 2.9x.

BUT, I can NOT get any more than the buffer's worth of RAW video.

I have tried both TL (Nov 30 & Dec 26 zips) and ML (Jan 02 zip) builds.

What exact settings, loaded modules are needed, and ANY other advice to help solve this - PLEASE !!

OR does RAW not work at all yet ?

TIA!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: nick.p on January 04, 2014, 07:29:13 AM
140mb/s is 140/8 = 17.5mB/s. Raw video requires a lot of speed.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: mk11174 on January 04, 2014, 07:56:40 AM
Can anyone share there EOS-M ROM1.bin with me, I would like to study it to compare with 700D port in hopes to help port it further as the EOS-M gets ported more?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: belmore on January 04, 2014, 10:24:39 PM
I played around with the 12/31 build for a while. While continuous raw recording at 720p worked pretty consistently in TL, with this build, I couldn't get a raw recording more than a few seconds.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: RavingRover on January 05, 2014, 04:51:55 AM
140mb/s is 140/8 = 17.5mB/s. Raw video requires a lot of speed.

Its compressed video, maybe slowed down by ACTUAL processing - who would imagine?

So what card?  M only has a 40mBps SD writer, my card is a 60mBps card, so How much is required ? Plz answer the question, not show math skills !! ;)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: nick.p on January 05, 2014, 04:55:39 AM

Its compressed video, maybe slowed down by ACTUAL processing - who would imagine?

So what card?  M only has a 40mBps SD writer, my card is a 60mBps card, so How much is required ? Plz answer the question, not show math skills !! ;)

You only need a 45 or 60 mB/s card because as you stated the writer is only capable of 40mB/s.

On the other hand that h264 video was probably in megabits not megabytes and hence it was 17.5 megabytes per second.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: RavingRover on January 05, 2014, 05:02:11 AM
I played around with the 12/31 build for a while. While continuous raw recording at 720p worked pretty consistently in TL, with this build, I couldn't get a raw recording more than a few seconds.

So you think maybe not all the 'fixes' in the last TL has been migrated into ML builds?

What card did you use for 720p in TL?

TIA!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: belmore on January 05, 2014, 05:22:15 AM
Quote
What card did you use for 720p in TL?

SanDisk Extreme 32 GB SDHC Class 10 UHS-1 Flash Memory Card 45MB/s

To be more specific, I could get 720p in the TL build only in crop mode with FPS Override set to 24FPS. If I enabled Magic Focus, even in TL, I had issues (not that it matters, since Magic Focus doesn't work right in crop mode anyway). Focus Peaking enabled didn't seem to pose any problems.

Thanks for the great work!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: RavingRover on January 05, 2014, 11:24:04 PM
I can shoot Raw ONLY? when using the 12/31 TL !!

I was able to get Raw in both crop and non crop modes !  1280x434 non, 1280x720 crop modes !!
(must put Canon video in 2kHD 24fps mode for crop to work BTW!)

So I believe NO TL or ML builds beyond the 2013/12/31 TL build works, I have tried a couple newer ML as well as older TL builds !!

Note: non crop is writing at about 27 MB/s, whereas crop is writing at about 35 MB/s !  (this means likely the fastest/highest resolution possible for M SD writer !!)  Sad!  :-[

This is with a Sandisk Extreme Plus UHS-I 32gb card - 60/80 MB/s.

So I A$$ume this means not ALL fixes/etc are in the ML stream yet or those for video at least !

Thanks for the help!

PS: Now the question is, is it worth the huge trouble processing raw 720p when the world wants 2kHD or even 4kHD !?  Especially considering the ability to get high bit rate compressed H.264, would anyone notice the diff for a huge amount of situations? Maybe only for high ISO situs?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: RavingRover on January 06, 2014, 12:13:26 AM
You only need a 45 or 60 mB/s card because as you stated the writer is only capable of 40mB/s.

On the other hand that h264 video was probably in megabits not megabytes and hence it was 17.5 megabytes per second.

Yep, thats why I put the 'mb' in lower case! Me knows the diff!! Me use to be an Electrical Engineer. Me are used to bits/nibbles/bytes/words/double words/etc. Me be cognizant of the diff. Me prefers 'MB or mb' rather than 'mB or mb', for the emphasis, as well that is what is shown on ML screens - 'MB/s'.

The statement of compressed video is that it will NEVER likely be able to be written at the speed of raw or M SD writer, as the H.264 encoding does take time and the encoder chip is likely processing limited, or I would see a higher bps, wouldn't I?

Also, I can set CBR to higher than 2.9x (4x is where I quit) with my card, just the output NEVER gets higher than about 140mb/s (saw peaks of 150+mb/s), so VERY likely processor/encoder/bus speed limited.

Also, the ultimate speed of compressed seems to a degree dependent on ISO, maybe - limited use/testing of this.

Thanks anyhow.

PS: It is going to be interesting when UHS-II (240MB/s writes) SD writers are in cams, and also when H.265 encoders are in cams, then the Digic engines (dual/triple Digics?) will have some REAL work to do & will be so capable !! 

BTW, FYI: Canon works (has work done by?) with Texas Instruments (TI) on their Digic processors - Nikon has FujiFilm do their h/w work & firmware work!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on January 06, 2014, 03:44:15 AM
I am now trying the new ML, Jan 5, for the M 2.02 and it makes the shutterbug come back on my cam. When I use any of the TL versions, I do not have the shutterbug (after I do my reformat workaround that I explained a few times so far on here).
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: RavingRover on January 06, 2014, 07:26:52 AM
I am now trying the new ML, Jan 5, for the M 2.02 and it makes the shutterbug come back on my cam. When I use any of the TL versions, I do not have the shutterbug (after I do my reformat workaround that I explained a few times so far on here).

IIRC, the person porting TL to ML was mostly concerned with 'picture taking' changes to TL, NOT video. So this is of importance to him, I think !!  I am sure it is not easy getting all the code deltas correct, assuming his tools are not so great, shame there is not a 'versioning' code repository to keep each code 'effort/changes' independent by 1% & others.

I do get the shutterbug occasionally, but I seem to get out of it via changing modes (this may be a general freeze problem not the shutterbug), but another one (shutterbug I believe - less often), I have to take out battery. Very annoying as there is NO prediction when this can occur.

Good Luck.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jordancolburn on January 06, 2014, 04:21:40 PM
PS: Now the question is, is it worth the huge trouble processing raw 720p when the world wants 2kHD or even 4kHD !?  Especially considering the ability to get high bit rate compressed H.264, would anyone notice the diff for a huge amount of situations? Maybe only for high ISO situs?
Not really.  720 will still look good as most people viewing your work (if it is meant for web) won't even bother to put it in fullscreen on their tiny laptop monitors.  I've put more than a few hours into trying to develop a raw workflow to even do a simple 1-2 minute project shooting around town, and the results of my simple comparison tests don't show enough difference to warrant all the extra effort.  After the basic stability/usability features get sorted, there is no reason not to push the camera to its limit, but for me, the EOSM is a great tiny camera that I can keep on me to get good video with minimal fuss, and stock h264 really is good enough for most simple doc pickup shots (again, for web delivery).  If  anyone really needs raw on the cheap and it's non-negotioable, they should pick up one of the BMD cameras.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: kalimerox on January 12, 2014, 06:28:20 PM
Hi there, I m new in this forum and heard about magic lantern on the chaos communication congress.. seems like a fantastic project for indie filmmakers like me ;)
#i have one question: for a visual project i need a camera with a clean hdmi output, must not be full HD resolution, but clean in the sense of no overlays, shutterspeed , battery infos etc.. is this possible with the Canon eos m and the magic lantern (nightly builds.)?? Thanks :)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on January 12, 2014, 06:35:33 PM
In theory yes (it's in the user guide and enabled here (http://nanomad.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/features.html)). In practice, try it and let us know if/how it works.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: kalimerox on January 12, 2014, 06:47:55 PM
alright, thanks! this will take a while, i still need to buy one.. once i know I ll share...
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jordancolburn on January 13, 2014, 03:02:35 AM
IIRC, the person porting TL to ML was mostly concerned with 'picture taking' changes to TL, NOT video. So this is of importance to him, I think !!  I am sure it is not easy getting all the code deltas correct, assuming his tools are not so great, shame there is not a 'versioning' code repository to keep each code 'effort/changes' independent by 1% & others.
Acutally, I'm mainly a video guy, so smooth operation of things like zebras, rec picstyle, and basic audio meters are my main concern.  I do use the eosm for photos a lot too, but I haven't experienced the shuterbug, if someone can give me steps to recreate it, I can try to find a fix.

After porting, it's been working well enough for me to use for small family photos and videos, but haven't used it on a real project yet.  I've been pretty busy this past week, but my short list of bugs to look at next:
-shutter speed display in menu
-canon menus overlaying ML menu bugs
-bug I'm experiencing with it hanging every few startups
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on January 13, 2014, 03:20:51 AM
Acutally, I'm mainly a video guy, so smooth operation of things like zebras, rec picstyle, and basic audio meters are my main concern.  I do use the eosm for photos a lot too, but I haven't experienced the shuterbug, if someone can give me steps to recreate it, I can try to find a fix.

After porting, it's been working well enough for me to use for small family photos and videos, but haven't used it on a real project yet.  I've been pretty busy this past week, but my short list of bugs to look at next:
-shutter speed display in menu
-canon menus overlaying ML menu bugs
-bug I'm experiencing with it hanging every few startups
The shutterbug appears when you use the EFM 18-55 lens oin the M with ML. After you turn on the camera in Movie mode, try to take a pic pushing the shutter button and nothing happens. Three workarounds- power off and on real quick before the red led flashes, untwist the lens slightly and then twist back on and reformat using the Canon menu choosing to KEEP the ML files intact and then always having a 4gb record cycle instead of 6gb using exfat. all three work for me. But the shutterbug only relates to The M with the EFM lenses. And some people have different experiences with it, but very similar.

Gary
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on January 13, 2014, 03:23:44 AM
alright, thanks! this will take a while, i still need to buy one.. once i know I ll share...
I am selling my M system if you want to buy one. I never used it out my my house, so still very brand new condition. I bought it all last mid July.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jordancolburn on January 13, 2014, 04:15:21 PM
The shutterbug appears when you use the EFM 18-55 lens oin the M with ML. After you turn on the camera in Movie mode, try to take a pic pushing the shutter button and nothing happens. Three workarounds- power off and on real quick before the red led flashes, untwist the lens slightly and then twist back on and reformat using the Canon menu choosing to KEEP the ML files intact and then always having a 4gb record cycle instead of 6gb using exfat. all three work for me. But the shutterbug only relates to The M with the EFM lenses. And some people have different experiences with it, but very similar.

Gary
Strange, I have the 22 EFM and haven't seen it.  Can anybody confirm this happens with the 22 or 11-whatever wide angle lens too?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: cpreston on January 13, 2014, 10:30:13 PM
I saw it once on my 18-55 but not on the 22 or the 11-22.  Of course, that doesn't prove that it doesn't happen.

My primary hope is that there is a way to implement magic zoom with touch screen on this camera.  Is that a possibility?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on January 20, 2014, 01:23:23 AM
Some things to cleanup: http://nanomad.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/features.html at the end of the page.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jordancolburn on January 20, 2014, 03:52:23 AM
Thanks, that chart is really helpful.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: atomas72 on January 21, 2014, 07:56:45 PM
Where is build version for Eos? It's disappeared!!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on January 21, 2014, 07:59:17 PM
Where is build version for Eos? It's disappeared!!
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3072.msg97344;topicseen#msg97344
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: nanomad on January 22, 2014, 09:06:09 AM
We are looking for volunteers to do testing of the ML and TL ports for the EOSM to see what's needed to put it on track.

Send me a PM if you are willing to cooperate. No development skills needed, just some free time to do boring tests
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on January 22, 2014, 03:41:09 PM
We are looking for volunteers to do testing of the ML and TL ports for the EOSM to see what's needed to put it on track.

Send me a PM if you are willing to cooperate. No development skills needed, just some free time to do boring tests
FTR, I have been doing this on a daily basis since July 2013 with ML/TL on my M.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: nanomad on January 22, 2014, 06:21:06 PM
And that's a very good thing :-)

I'm trying to put things into order though, that's why I've posted this.

Expect a PM from me soon
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: glmccready on January 22, 2014, 07:13:25 PM
Does the EOS M use the "Stable Release: v2.3" or is there another version I would need.  It doesn't appear to be n the "drop down" list.
I really only need the Intervalometer.  I'm am currently using it on me 550, but want a lighter camera.
Thanks,
Gary in Salisbury, MD , USA
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on January 22, 2014, 07:25:51 PM
Does the EOS M use the "Stable Release: v2.3" or is there another version I would need.  It doesn't appear to be n the "drop down" list.
I really only need the Intervalometer.  I'm am currently using it on me 550, but want a lighter camera.
Thanks,
Gary in Salisbury, MD , USA
I have used all ML and TL builds on a daily basis without any problems. They just reemoved the M from the ML drop list but they are still developing it as well as 1% on TL. nano has asked for people to test the ML build which I just joined. You can get TL here-
http://tl.bot-fly.com/
and reply to nano here-
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3648.msg97471;topicseen#msg97471

you and I are close in MD

Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: trappolo72 on January 23, 2014, 07:59:44 AM
great i wait your pm for my eos-M thanks for all
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: John on January 24, 2014, 05:44:10 AM
We are looking for volunteers to do testing of the ML and TL ports for the EOSM to see what's needed to put it on track.

Send me a PM if you are willing to cooperate. No development skills needed, just some free time to do boring tests

Sent a PM to help test EOS-M.

Thanks!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Janke on January 24, 2014, 02:24:56 PM
The shutterbug appears when you use the EFM 18-55 lens oin the M with ML.

Also with the 11-22 EFM lens. Got it three times in a row, even after removing battery - maybe should have left battery out for longer?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: ourfriendtheatom on January 24, 2014, 04:47:53 PM
I'm new to ML but suppose I could help out with testing. Not ready to jump into the syntax just yet though. 
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Janke on January 24, 2014, 06:18:05 PM
No development skills needed, just some free time to do boring tests

What kinds of tests? I've been trying out a few ML and TL builds this week, and there are some stability problems. Shutter bug, freezes (keeps blinking orange), loss of liveview in photo mode (requiring clearing all camera settings), etc.

Anything particular I can help with? I use manual lenses mainly, but have the 11-22mm and the 22mm STMs.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on January 26, 2014, 09:50:07 PM
Also with the 11-22 EFM lens. Got it three times in a row, even after removing battery - maybe should have left battery out for longer?
pulling the battery has nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Oswald on January 29, 2014, 08:29:07 AM
I have been playing with ML few weeks. Sometimes shutterbug appears, sometimes don't. I dont know why. Also I found another bug. When using Manual lens (c mount lens) with 3x crop mode, The record button don't work. I have to change to half sutter button then the shutter button works.? Any idea why it do that?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: andyfgray on February 01, 2014, 09:48:23 PM
Definitely let me know if I can help.  ~Andy

www.andyfgray.com
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: funkysound on February 06, 2014, 04:24:02 PM
After porting, it's been working well enough for me to use for small family photos and videos, but haven't used it on a real project yet.  I've been pretty busy this past week, but my short list of bugs to look at next:
-shutter speed display in menu
-canon menus overlaying ML menu bugs
-bug I'm experiencing with it hanging every few startups

Are there any news ... and if - where could I get a newer version?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on February 06, 2014, 04:52:47 PM
This port is currently outdated, but Nanomad is trying to bring it back to speed.

It will be back on the nightly builds page when there will be some progress.
Title: Re: [UNMAINTAINED] EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: kalimerox on February 10, 2014, 02:16:42 PM
Hi guys,

now got a eos m for testing , I m new to all this, but couldnt find the download option for eos m-.. ;(

shall i use the tragiclantern latest download from here http://tl.bot-fly.com/ ? or is there some kind of difference to the old download?

I d like to test the clean hdmi out from the eos m I need for installation purposes..

thanks!
Title: Re: [UNMAINTAINED] EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: funkysound on February 15, 2014, 11:37:36 AM
I just saw that EOS M is back on the nightly bulids  :)
Does any body know what did change? On the first go I didn´t find out any difference - just realized that shutter speed is still not working.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on February 15, 2014, 12:01:52 PM
Nanomad took care of it.

Also take a look http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html and be aware that not all of us have an EOS-M, but even so, we may still able to help if you give proper bug reports. If you say "shutter speed is still not working", I have no clue how exactly is "not working".
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: funkysound on February 15, 2014, 01:49:23 PM
Sorry a1ex - I thought you all know about this Bug.
In the video mode the shutter-speed-display just doesn´t show the right numbers like: It is 160" but shows 0" or even stranger this moment 0.-8".
In photo mode it seems to be at least better. Means ML shows nearly the right numbers like Canon info says 80" - ML shows a higher 81" or  the other way round ... canon 100" / ML 96" or canon 135" / ML 125"
If you try to change shutter speed in both modes ... very often the display jumpes for not even 1/2 a second to the org. canon info view and back to ML view.

Oh, just this moment the camera didn´t start again and showed the orange light - had to take out the batterie. But this was the first time after starting around 10 - 15 times.

That´s my experience so far.

.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on February 15, 2014, 02:01:49 PM
Well... one has to double-check FRAME_SHUTTER_TIMER and get_current_shutter_reciprocal_x1000.

There is a big quirk here from Canon (all other cameras are well-behaved): EOS-M does not configure LiveView with the real shutter speed while not recording (so the readings will be only relevant while recording). Same for FPS.

So, for standby, one might want to rely on APEX units. Also, if one can't figure out how to fix the bug, just undefine FRAME_SHUTTER_TIMER (don't leave the wrong value) and the code will fallback to APEX (which is portable, but not very exact - Canon does some unusual rounding and ML doesn't copy it - and the APEX method doesn't account for FPS override, for example, but it's easy to fix).

In photo mode, you can set exposure time of 100 seconds?! are you sure about that?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: funkysound on February 15, 2014, 02:08:36 PM
Not 100 seconds just 1/100 - but the canon liveview display shows only the 100.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on February 15, 2014, 02:12:38 PM
Here, at long exposures it shows the " symbol, that's why I got confused. ML shows 1/100 at short exposures (which is in SI units - you are setting the exposure time, which is measured in seconds, not in Hz).
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: 1% on February 15, 2014, 05:45:15 PM
Frame shutter timer should be right since you can do all the fancy HDR stuff with the shutter... also has the ADTG shutters.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tob on February 16, 2014, 04:48:40 PM
1. I installed a freshversion of 16 feb nightly to EOS M.
2. Cleared the ML settings.
3. I'm in photo mode and M.

Every time i activate the Dual ISO module I got the the message:
ISOless PH err(15)
(http://thumbnails110.imagebam.com/30838/74b74d308376002.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/74b74d308376002)


Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: glmccready on February 18, 2014, 04:14:51 PM
How do you stop ML from loading on the M.  With the t3i i just hold down the set button as it boots, but that didn't seem to work.   I did get the intervalometer to work just fine. Thanks!!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: funkysound on February 19, 2014, 05:23:59 PM
How do you stop ML from loading on the M.  With the t3i i just hold down the set button as it boots, but that didn't seem to work.   I did get the intervalometer to work just fine. Thanks!!

As far as I know there is no way to stop ML from loading - you have to uninstal ML or better use 2 cards. One with ML and one without.
But I agree that it is a good idea if this function would be there one day.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: glmccready on February 19, 2014, 09:55:48 PM
funkysound: Thanks. A simple solution that didn't cross my mind.  I'll give it  a try.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: feureau on February 24, 2014, 08:05:23 AM
As far as I know there is no way to stop ML from loading - you have to uninstal ML or better use 2 cards. One with ML and one without.
But I agree that it is a good idea if this function would be there one day.

On other cameras you can hold the set button and turn on the camera to disable ML to load, but that doesn't seem to be implemented in EOS-M
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: kamaldinov on March 09, 2014, 03:05:01 PM
Can ML add to EOS M shut with only electronic shutter?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Oswald on March 09, 2014, 04:12:09 PM
Fps override + raw. Also can do silent pics. 
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Morghus on March 10, 2014, 01:02:29 AM
On other cameras you can hold the set button and turn on the camera to disable ML to load, but that doesn't seem to be implemented in EOS-M

Should be in one of the next nightly, and the button to hold is INFO on the M
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on March 10, 2014, 04:26:44 AM
Should be in one of the next nightly, and the button to hold is INFO on the M
which nightly build? ML, TL or both?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on March 10, 2014, 09:23:16 AM
This applies to EOS-M too:

I'd rather not have any more politics of the development situation discussed in threads all over the forum.
Suffice to say.


Tragic Lantern is a personal fork.  Just like you, me, and everyone else is capable of creating our own personal forks.

This forum is for the support of Magic Lantern.  First and foremost.

[...]

Rather then speculating, and worrying about things that do not improvement the development progress.

  • Fork the ML repository (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/overview), fix some bugs and create some pull requests. (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10774.0)
  • Browse the Tragic Lantern (https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/commits/all) repository, and back port fixes and features.
  • If you do not know how to code, there are ways to help (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9516.0) the development team that do not involve coding.

Regards.


@gary: if you don't care about the ML project as a whole, keep using and promoting Tragic Lantern.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Morghus on March 10, 2014, 09:32:31 AM
which nightly build? ML, TL or both?
ML only for now, but I'm sure it'll find its way into TL someday
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on March 11, 2014, 01:50:51 PM
there are now two listings for the ML nightly build EOS-M. The  new one says Cleanup. Which one are we suppose to use? What does Cleanup mean? That it still needs too be cleaned or it is cleaned up and preferable?
http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on March 11, 2014, 03:00:31 PM
Cleanup is a branch where I'm doing some code refactoring; it stays there until it gets code review and some basic feedback from the other developers (or anybody who compiles ML from source). Once the changes have been reviewed and cleaned up, they get merged to nightly builds for everyone else to test out.

So, what appears in the bitbucket log may not be available right away in the nightly builds (basically this ensures you are not running truly bleeding edge code, but the new stuff did get a little testing and reviewing from some more eyeballs). Think of it as one small step to improve the overall stability of these nightly builds.

About the cleanup version in the nightly area, my best guess is that nanomad simply tried to compile this branch on the nightly server. For testing I recommend the regular builds; for everyday usage... for myself I simply compile the most recent unified (which is the same source code used to build the nightlies).
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on March 12, 2014, 10:47:43 AM
I just tried the latest version, Mar 11 ML, for the M and I do not have the mlv/raw listings showing up in the menus even thought the modules are shown to be loaded correctly.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on March 12, 2014, 10:52:02 AM
Have some screenshots?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on March 12, 2014, 10:57:16 AM
Have some screenshots?
MY bad. I think I just found it. I accidentally set the wrong thing in the Debug page. I usually set line 2 on to load all modules after a crash and I had line 1 turned on instead which is Disable all modules.  :(
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on March 12, 2014, 10:58:19 AM
Right, I keep forgetting to update that help message...
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on March 15, 2014, 08:16:47 AM
ML EOS-M Nightly builds are always now having different dates shown. For example, tonight's listing shows Mar 14th and after the download it shows the file as being named Mar 15th. This can be confusing at times where I think I don't need a download when I actually do need to get it. 
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on March 15, 2014, 08:27:03 AM
Not sure where to look (have a screenshot?)

Here it shows Built on: 2014-03-15 and the file is named Mar15.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on March 15, 2014, 08:47:47 AM
Not sure where to look (have a screenshot?)

Here it shows Built on: 2014-03-15 and the file is named Mar15.
Here is a current screen grab from
http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/
and the actual file has a name of Mar 15th.
https://www.transferbigfiles.com/364b3205-ef9b-4de4-abf8-9a167d0f0ddf/jNytWQMfjia-gF1DwCHbBA2

EDIT-how do I directly put an image file to this post? I see the icon for add image, but then how do I get my actual PNG file in here between the [ ] ?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on March 15, 2014, 09:00:03 AM
Looks like a time zone issue. If I delay the nightly builds by 3 hours, should be OK for you, but still won't be solved for San Francisco users. If I delay them by 6 hours, they might be a bit too late for European users.

To embed an image, you need to paste the link to the image only (without the surrounding html stuff). Try imgur.com or dropbox.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on March 16, 2014, 01:04:39 PM
ML ver Mar 16th and Mar 15th will not work at all on the M. I only get a steady red led showing. Nothing else happens.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: nanomad on March 16, 2014, 03:21:04 PM
I just tried magiclantern-Nightly.2014Mar16.EOSM202 on my EOSM and it works just fine. What firmware version do you have?

Can you try renaming the ML folder and then re-extracting the one from the zip?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on March 16, 2014, 04:15:30 PM
I just tried magiclantern-Nightly.2014Mar16.EOSM202 on my EOSM and it works just fine. What firmware version do you have?

Can you try renaming the ML folder and then re-extracting the one from the zip?
I have the latest firmware as far as I know. I am using the fir that always comes with the TL builds.

I just tried a new download of ML Mar 16, deleted the ML and autoexec on the card like I always do, then extracted the zip and copied the two files onto the card. This time, the red led does shutoff like normal when I inserted the card, but when I try to power on, it looks as if it is going to do it with the led flashing then after a couple of seconds it goes to steady red led and nothing happens except it hangs the camera and then a battery pull.

EDIT- I tired booting again and this time it worked. I have never had the steady red led hang up before except for these last two days using the ML nightly. Strange.
BUT, now the intro splash screen is stuck. How do I get past this? In the past, I just swiped the screen again to get to the ML menus.

EDIT 2, now the ML menus showed up after a minute of just sitting there with the splash screen showing. Something is acting strange doing this. Never had this behavior before.

EDIT 3, did my usual settings in ML menus. Turn off audio headphones, turn on all the modules, Debug listing 2 set to Reload modules after a crash. I shut off the camera and then rebooted and now it's back to the steady red led and it hangs there.  :-(

LAST EDIT- after trying to boot again for a few more times, it finally does start to work. Something is very wrong with the builds I have tried (many times)  the last few days.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on March 16, 2014, 04:27:47 PM
What modules do you have loaded?

Can you try booting without them?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on March 16, 2014, 04:28:04 PM
nanomad, i just thought that maybe cus I do not have eoscard used on my card, that might be doing all of this? I don't know, just guessing. But I never had any problems like this on ML builds before a couple of days ago.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on March 16, 2014, 04:31:58 PM
What modules do you have loaded?

Can you try booting without them?
I have all the modules loaded, six of them, except arkanoid. I just tried shutting off all modules and rebooted and it worked. I powered off and tried to boot again and it went back to the steady red led and hang... battery pull.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on March 16, 2014, 04:33:18 PM
I powered off and tried to boot again and it went back to the steady red led and hang... battery pull.

This was without any module enabled?

(it's important for narrowing down)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on March 16, 2014, 04:45:36 PM
This was without any module enabled?

(it's important for narrowing down)
yes, no modules were loaded. The camera has been sitting for a few minutes and now it powers up with no modules loaded. I tried three times in a row and all three times it powers up with no modules.

EDIT, after I typed the last message here, I tried again and it's back to not working with the steady red led again. Waited a bit, tried again, it worked. Powered off, waited a bit and the red led hang came back.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: cpreston on March 16, 2014, 04:50:41 PM
I have been having the same problem with the EOS-M ML builds.  I've used multiple builds and they all have the same problem.  Try to turn it on and I get a blinking LED or solid LED and the screen never turns on and the power button will not turn it off.  If I pull the battery and try to cycle it a few more times, at some point it will finally power up completely.  I am using a 64GB card with nothing else on it.  I do not load more than the very basic modules.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on March 16, 2014, 05:01:52 PM
I just tried going back to ML Mar 11th and everything worked a few times in a row of off and rebooting. I was able to shoot an MLV raw file, but it has no MLV playback.
The splash screen is annoying. It appears we have to wait ten seconds or more for it to shut off. I tried swiping and nothing got it to shut off. isn't there some sort of swipe or button push to shut the splash screen off?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on March 16, 2014, 05:10:45 PM
Normally, the first key press / scrollwheel / whatever should disable the screen right away (at least this is how it works on all other cameras).

For anyone who can reproduce the issue and has basic command-line skills: can you run hg bisect to find the buggy changeset?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on March 17, 2014, 07:50:13 AM
Normally, the first key press / scrollwheel / whatever should disable the screen right away (at least this is how it works on all other cameras).

For anyone who can reproduce the issue and has basic command-line skills: can you run hg bisect to find the buggy changeset?
The new magiclantern-Nightly.2014Mar17.EOSM202 works now on the M. The splash also goes away with a single push on the set button. I don't understand the shutter display in the ML display. It says 0.-1, -1818  ?? What happened to the usual 1/48 and 1/64 and so on like the Canon menus show and the TL versions? How do we get the shutter to go to the usual settings for video? I had to go into the Canon menus to set it to 1/50 and 1/60 as needed.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on March 17, 2014, 07:58:13 AM
I've already explained what needs to be done for fixing shutter speeds: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9741.msg101808#msg101808

also on 700D: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5951.msg103451#msg103451

but can't do much more without an EOS-M (porting advice is OK).
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on March 17, 2014, 08:40:19 AM
Well... one has to double-check FRAME_SHUTTER_TIMER and get_current_shutter_reciprocal_x1000.

There is a big quirk here from Canon (all other cameras are well-behaved): EOS-M does not configure LiveView with the real shutter speed while not recording (so the readings will be only relevant while recording). Same for FPS.

So, for standby, one might want to rely on APEX units. Also, if one can't figure out how to fix the bug, just undefine FRAME_SHUTTER_TIMER (don't leave the wrong value) and the code will fallback to APEX (which is portable, but not very exact - Canon does some unusual rounding and ML doesn't copy it - and the APEX method doesn't account for FPS override, for example, but it's easy to fix).

In photo mode, you can set exposure time of 100 seconds?! are you sure about that?
sorry, I just do not understand it. I never had to do math to set the shutter speed for video. I tried making the shutter adjustments and nothing seemed to be changing except the picture display was getting darker. When I checked in the Canon display, it was up over 200 yet the ML display kept showing 0". Is this method something more that still photographers need? Can this be something that could be a user pref setting so we all can choose what method we need? Can anyone tell me why TL is showing the 1/48 and 1/64 and Canon shows settings like 1/50, 1/60 and so on? Is there something wrong with the TL and Canon way of displaying shutter speed that will ruin our video footage? We need to set the shutter in video to be double the frame rate most of the time.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on March 17, 2014, 09:05:01 AM
Here we are programming the cameras, not just using them. Try coding ML without math.

Quote
Can anyone tell me why TL is showing the 1/48 and 1/64 and Canon shows more settings like 1/50, 1/60 and so on?
Sounds like they use the APEX method.

Quote
I also do not understand why it is 1/64 when we need it to be 1/60 for 30 FPS video
You already quoted the answer. We are talking about ML *displayed* values (that is, just printing what Canon gives us).

Why do we need exact values?
1) There is a obscure feature called shutter fine-tuning, which adjusts shutter in 1/50000s increments (or close), which is very useful when filming computer displays (to get rid of flicker).
2) To make sure the shutter speed matches the mains freqency (Canon may print 1/30, but, to avoid flicker, in PAL land you need it to be a multiple of 1/100, that is, 1/50 or 1/33.333). Canon actually does this rounding for you, and ML is supposed to print it properly (but somebody needs to sit down and fix it somehow on the M).
3) When using FPS override, the image gets brighter; you may want to know how much (well, maybe you don't, but I do).
4) ETTR in LiveView. How's this one supposed to work if it doesn't know where it's starting from?

Also... are you suggesting adding a user preference (added complexity) instead of fixing the bug?!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Audionut on March 17, 2014, 09:08:28 AM
I prefer the correct values being printed in ML.  If I want to know what the Canon rounded values are, I look at the Canon feedback.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on March 17, 2014, 09:34:10 AM
Canon actually does this rounding for you, and ML is supposed to print it properly (but somebody needs to sit down and fix it somehow on the M).
I understand, thank you for explaining it for me. I wish I could help more on the dev end as you say someone still needs to fix it for the M. 
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on March 17, 2014, 09:40:48 AM
I prefer the correct values being printed in ML.  If I want to know what the Canon rounded values are, I look at the Canon feedback.
That is what I have been doing, using the Canon menu for shutter setting.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: kamaldinov on March 18, 2014, 10:09:34 AM

Fps override + raw. Also can do silent pics.

I want use full camera resolution
And what is silent mode?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: DJBellis on March 22, 2014, 08:06:14 PM
Sorry this is a totally noob question, but where do I find the download that actually has the .fir file for the EOS M? I have the nightly build, but the 2.3 release doesn't have it. . . Thanks ahead for help.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gary2013 on March 22, 2014, 11:57:27 PM
Sorry this is a totally noob question, but where do I find the download that actually has the .fir file for the EOS M? I have the nightly build, but the 2.3 release doesn't have it. . . Thanks ahead for help.
http://tl.bot-fly.com/.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: huangyanlai on March 28, 2014, 06:22:38 AM
I think ETTR hints on the menu are correct, but the actual feature isn't correct.  I have not tried dual ISO on any camera, so I can't speak to that, but again, my focus is weird menu things, audio/video features before working on dual ISO, raw, etc.

Pink dots are just what this camera does from hardware, the pink dot remover will take care of that.  Raw playback was working (slowly) on TL, so when I get to working on that, it shouldn't be too bad to pull over.

I tested on the nightly build (2014mar27) to try the dual ISO feature. I saw an error message: "ISOLess PH Err (15)". Does "dual ISO" work for EOS-M or not yet available?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: cottonlint on April 01, 2014, 02:13:06 PM
Hi EOS M people,

I reported a bug to ML.  I had an issue where the shutter would not work, even the touch shutter.  My camera locks up and I had to remove my battery to restart.  The shutter bug appears when Canon EF-M 18-55mm lens is attached to my EOS M.  Magically, the shutter bug disappears when Canon EF-M 22mm lens is attached to it.

It took me a long time to figure it out since sometime ML worked great, and other times ML would just lock up my Canon EOS M.  For some reason, I decided to switch my lens.  I detached EF-M 18-55mm and put on EF-M 22mm and ML worked as I remembered.  Then I realized that there is something going on with EF-M 18-55mm which ML doesn't like.  With EF-M 22mm attached, I was even able to take continuous shots using ML's intervalometer and the shutter button and touch shutter worked too.

I'm glad that ML isn't completely broken for Canon EOS M.

I hope that this could help resolve someone's pain with their ML issues with EOS M.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: veepee78 on April 02, 2014, 11:51:32 AM
Hi

Tried to install ML (20140402), but first observation was missing fir file. So I got one from TL package. When trying to run firmware update, it says ML/DATA/FONTS.DAT missing and won't continue. Am I missing something?

edit: borrowed also fonts.dat from tl, and then got it installed.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: KSphoto on April 04, 2014, 04:17:07 AM
I see audio meters are showing while recording video. This is new, right?

I noticed that the software would not run if I copied it over with the card in my Laptop. I had to use a card reader. I don't understand why that happens but I think other people are having the same problem with the cam not booting up. Please use a separate card reader.
I'm using the TL firmware because I couldn't find it on this site. Others may be having this issue too.
Hope this helps someone.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Canon eos m on April 04, 2014, 08:00:16 AM
I tested on the nightly build (2014mar27) to try the dual ISO feature. I saw an error message: "ISOLess PH Err (15)". Does "dual ISO" work for EOS-M or not yet available?

+1
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: nanomad on April 04, 2014, 08:07:36 AM
The current dual iso implementation assumes a constant address in memory for the iso registers, which isn't true for all digic v cameras.
I'll post a build later today with a different address location that may help.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Canon eos m on April 04, 2014, 11:41:38 AM
I tested on the nightly build (2014mar27) to try the dual ISO feature. I saw an error message: "ISOLess PH Err (15)". Does "dual ISO" work for EOS-M or not yet available?

I have noticed that the touch screen is less responsive now with the newer versions of the builds. For example the scroll wheel does not respond as it used to. Plus, where do I get the mlv modules from- especially the player.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: nanomad on April 04, 2014, 11:48:19 AM
There have been no changes to the touch screen code
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: KSphoto on April 07, 2014, 03:17:28 AM
I was shooting intervelometer today and when it was set on pic every 0s (pics like crazy) it would not stop or come out of the cycle no matter what was pressed. Had to pull battery.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: odik on April 07, 2014, 06:24:47 AM
Mirrorless + http://goo.gl/xpHHt5 + Magic Lantern = winner!
great update guys....
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: indiejack on April 08, 2014, 07:36:50 AM
Hello all, I'm not new to ML but haven't installed it on anything since the 650d release. Now i'd like to throw it on my EosM but I had a question on the install differences, the 2014Mar13 of TL has the EOSM_202.fir while the recent ML versions do not.

I guess my question is that am I supposed to prep my card using Macboot and just throw it in or is there a logical way to update the firmware on the camera like previous versions? I read through the thread and most of the info was related to RAW video so I'm sorry if this has been covered and I somehow overlooked.

Other than that I'm happy to help out with any testing of nightly features or whatnot, just let me know how I can be of assistance!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: nanomad on April 08, 2014, 08:46:25 AM
The next nightly build will have the eosm installer (fir). Put in on the card along all the other ML files, run it once and you'll have both the card and the camera bootable. It also doubles as an un installer should you need it.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: arielp on April 08, 2014, 12:10:48 PM
is the Shutter bug with 18-55 already gone in latest nightly?

about to jump to ML but still hesitate due to shutter bug...
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: nanomad on April 08, 2014, 12:38:17 PM
No because we can't reproduce it reliably
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: indiejack on April 08, 2014, 04:08:26 PM
The next nightly build will have the eosm installer (fir). Put in on the card along all the other ML files, run it once and you'll have both the card and the camera bootable. It also doubles as an un installer should you need it.
Thanks for the info nanomad!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: lecore on April 09, 2014, 11:26:17 AM
Hello everyone,

1st post here in ml forum ;D

I just installed the ml for Eos-m (Nightly.2014Apr07.EOSM202).

1st all it works good and almost stable for such a fresh ml-port.

THANKS A LOT to the DEVELOPERS!!!

Some small problems i encountered :

After entering the menu with two-finger tab for ml setup menu, it often exits the menu without any user action.
I dont know why, is it a timer which closes the menu after a given period with no action?
This strange automatism really disturbs the workflow while setting up ml, how can i change this?


Other proposals: I think the navigation inside the ml functions is  lil hustle atm. Always switching between touch and buttons is no good for fast setup.
I would love to see all navigation could be done via buttons, so you could keep your LCD-Hood on and use buttons only.

Maybe some hold down button actions could improve access to ml without the need of using the touch.


Cheers dave
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: huangyanlai on April 09, 2014, 04:27:59 PM
The current dual iso implementation assumes a constant address in memory for the iso registers, which isn't true for all digic v cameras.
I'll post a build later today with a different address location that may help.
This nightly build Apr09 still shows the same error for dual iso.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: indiejack on April 10, 2014, 06:46:17 PM
Grabbed the nightly (2014Apr09.EOSM202) formatted card, dropped files onto card, run upgrade and got a flicker of the installing screen then a rapid blinking orange light, waited around 15 seconds, removed battery. Did this process and formatting and such 4x - have I missed something?

I didn't make the card bootable is that required still?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: nanomad on April 10, 2014, 06:48:15 PM
I'll check. You did everything right
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Oliver on April 13, 2014, 09:35:33 AM
I had the exactly same experience than Indiejack. Formattet card, evan made it bootable to make sure... copied all the files and then startetd the update process. A short flash shows up, then the screen gets dark and the light keeps flashing forever. Exact the same thing as described two posts before. Tried also several times. Since today appeared a new version of the nightly builds for EOS M a hoped that the problem ist fixed, butwith Version 2014Apr13.EOSM202  it is exactly the same as Version 2014Apr09.EOSM202.

Since I guess that your Versions are at least once testet before published, i was thinking my SD Card might have a problem (I use a 2 GB card) but installing a fresh 202 Version from Canon works well. If anybody would have an idea, I would be very thankful. To be totally honest. I bought my Canon EOS M purely for  the reason I read that it is possible to do RAW recording with magic lantern with it. Of course I want to get it going. I like to make living photography, so I only need a few seconds of video in Web Size (Full HD not needed really) always from a tripod, no camera movement, no sound (so all the weaknesses of the camera do not really count), but every single image as crisp as possible. The Canon EOS M is perfekt for this purpose and a small budget.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: nanomad on April 13, 2014, 09:39:46 AM
The EOSM installer is broken and should not be used until further notice
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: chris_overseas on April 13, 2014, 01:06:15 PM
It looks like the installer should be fixed in the next nightly: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/470/eosm-use-traditional-boot-method-this/diff
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: nanomad on April 13, 2014, 01:16:58 PM
Well, not until it gets merged
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: KSphoto on April 14, 2014, 04:52:38 AM
I have been using ML version from about 4-2-14. I don't have the exact figures, but I noticed that when using the camera with a non ML card my auto focus has changed. It seems that continuous focus works but if it is disabled it will not focus with a touch of the screen only a press of the shutter. I always thought it was fun to just touch an object on the screen and watch it focus. I'm bummed. Anyone else have this problem?

Any feedback on the newest (4-13-14) version?

Update. I have focussing like I was expecting. I just set the focus box to the smallest option and enabled full time autofocus. Simple enough.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: arielp on April 15, 2014, 05:36:24 AM
I have been using ML version from about 4-2-14. I don't have the exact figures, but I noticed that when using the camera with a non ML card my auto focus has changed. It seems that continuous focus works but if it is disabled it will not focus with a touch of the screen only a press of the shutter. I always thought it was fun to just touch an object on the screen and watch it focus. I'm bummed. Anyone else have this problem?

Any feedback on the newest (4-13-14) version?

i'm not installing ML yet (camera still virgin), but when i disabled continuous focus, touch to "focus" is also not available.
i belive this is not related with ML.

touch to focus only available when continuous focus is enabled.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: KSphoto on April 16, 2014, 04:01:03 AM
I checked twice and can't find any "touch to focus " options even when in continuous focus mode. I'm using the 22mm lens.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: funkysound on April 22, 2014, 01:28:55 PM
I just installed a new ML Version (04.21.) and realized that there is no audio department any more (audio out). Does it come back with more features or is it gone forever because some things do not work with EOS M?
All the other stuff like shutter speed in Video modus seem to work good now - at least during a short test. I also had no shutter-bug with the 18-55.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: EVVK on April 22, 2014, 10:02:03 PM
With older nightlys the shutter bug appeared also after warm boots, which seems to be fixed now, it seems to be a lot better.

However, it still appears with cold boots (re-seat battery and press power). After that I needed to re-seat the lens to get the shutter working again. (11-22 and 18-55 behaves the same). But like I mentioned it now persists warm-boots, so it's a lot better, and seems like we are headed in the right direction.

Needs more testing...
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on April 23, 2014, 08:20:56 AM
Amazing  :P the shutter bug doesn't seem to appear with 11-22mm either and the last nightly.

We didn't do anything to fix it, but the latest builds contain the classic boot method (from the good old days when ML ran only on 5D2 and 550D). However, my theory says the bug is still there, but the probability of it appearing has been changed (and some people who had the bug before may not have it with new builds, but other people who didn't have the bug before might have it now).

To confirm or invalidate my theories, please report how it works for you.

The nightly builds from 2014-04-18 and newer use the classic boot method, and the previous ones use the cache hacked method. So, try checking a few builds before this date, and a few builds after this date, and write down whether they have the bug or not. To draw a meaningful conclusion, I need results from at least 10 testers.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: kaos42ze on April 23, 2014, 02:57:36 PM
Does the Advanced Bracketing ( DOF ) work in EOS-M ?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: cinto.brewer on April 23, 2014, 05:40:32 PM
2014Apr20.EOSM202 still has the bug for me.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: lochmorie on April 24, 2014, 12:33:14 PM
I have been using the nightly builds over the past month since getting the 11-22mm lens - all have the shutterbug,
including 2014Apr23.EOSM202

I used to get fairly regular red light hang-ups requiring a battery pull on start-up. No problems with that using
the latest build.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: EVVK on April 26, 2014, 09:57:17 AM
Crap, seems like so, just had a good luck the first 5 runs, it's been a while when I last tried the nightlys. Anyway, I now get the shutter bug more frequently again, if not every time.

Has anyone been doing any analysis of the lenses? Similar to this:
http://pickandplace.wordpress.com/2011/10/05/canon-ef-s-protocol-and-electronic-follow-focus/
Maybe it could reveal what differs the zoom lenses. :-\
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: holicow on April 26, 2014, 03:18:57 PM
Hi there @all,

This is great work!

But one little thing:

I installed magiclantern-Nightly.2014Apr25.EOSM202.zip. When i go into the ML menu, it leaves in 5 seconds. This is a very short time. Is there any config option to increase the menu off timeout?



Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: funkysound on April 26, 2014, 05:55:59 PM
Hi Holicow,
this is sometihing which makes everybody crazy and was mentioned a few times  - in older posts someone said that ii is not possible to increase the time here because it´s got to do with some canon internal time settings - if I remember it right
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: holicow on April 26, 2014, 10:06:46 PM
Hi funkysound,

Does this happen with other camera model ports of ML (600D or 50D eg) also? If it does not, it would be just a port specific setting in the sourcecode. Any developers for the M port here?

Also if i press eg in the Help section some entries, it will be shown forever as long i do not press anything (shutter eg), so it must be possible i think.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: nanomad on April 28, 2014, 07:31:54 AM
I'm investigating it. It's a timeout of the hijacked canon dialog but so far I had no luck in killing the actual timer that fires it
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: holicow on April 29, 2014, 07:33:06 AM
Cool, because those 5 seconds are so frustrating. I forked the source and had a little look inside.
(Could be a little better documented, hehe) Maybe a solution is to send cyclic a fake button event?

#ifndef CONFIG_6D
TASK_OVERRIDE( gui_main_task, ml_gui_main_task);
#endif
void ml_gui_main_task()

This is the code for hijacking or?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: nanomad on April 29, 2014, 08:29:41 AM
That is an idea (provide a synthetic event to be processed by the underlying canon dialog and not us. A simple left/right combo may be enough).

Yeah the code could be better documented, I agree
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: holicow on May 03, 2014, 10:36:37 AM
Cool!

So you give it a try?

BTW: Where can i report errors in a correct manner, i found testing the ML 2.02 nightlies?

E.g i use now magiclantern-Nightly.2014May03.EOSM202.zip and found an error.


A question, i found this nowhere: When i set ExpSim to ON, there is this group of bars on the top line beside the time. What is the exact meaning of those bars? (some are full white, some are half white, one is yellow, i can get one red [overexposed i think])
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: dmilligan on May 03, 2014, 03:50:17 PM
A question, i found this nowhere: When i set ExpSim to ON, there is this group of bars on the top line beside the time. What is the exact meaning of those bars? (some are full white, some are half white, one is yellow, i can get one red [overexposed i think])
It's the "Histobar": http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8539.msg80619#msg80619
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: 2blackbar on May 04, 2014, 01:41:04 AM
So in theory if i would use crop video recording on canon M then i could actually use 16mm camera lenses without visible vignetting if i will create 16mm lens mount myself  ? So its gonna be like true fullhd 16mm camera with no moire and aliasing ?
Anyone measured how much sensor milimeters are used to capture on crop modes ? I think it would be easyt to measuyre by filming video with crop and without crop and then resizing non crop footage to be 223 pixels wide (like 22.3 mm of sensor) then comparing cropped versions should give us size in milimeters.I think it would be more like super8 sensor size (7mm wide x 3)not 16mm unless there is smaller zoom than 3x but that would have moire.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: otherman on May 07, 2014, 08:22:30 AM
based on my math EOS M, in crop mode and with 1472x626 resolution (2.35:1 and max resolution for continuous RAW recording), use a sensor area slightly larger than 1/2" format: every lens with the same (or larger) projection area is usable, but I can't verify.

Any news on Dual Iso for this little beast? Does it work now?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: 2blackbar on May 07, 2014, 04:00:08 PM
I just got canon M today and its great with unlocked crop zoom in video, i can also mount any lens i want on it and use speed booster wich i already modified for M  :D

 Is there any version in the past that had audio recording enabled ? Currently from what i see you cant record sound at all if you install magic lantern, i think its worth to leave original canon with sound on untill its fixed, i mean only for canon fps, so when you uyse fps override then sound will be disabled, its useful to have at least default canon recording mode with sound on, untill magci lantern sound code will be working .
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: dmilligan on May 07, 2014, 04:43:53 PM
Is there any version in the past that had audio recording enabled ? Currently from what i see you cant record sound at all if you install magic lantern, i think its worth to leave original canon with sound on untill its fixed

You have some incorrect information. In general ML does not just willy-nilly disable default things that are built-in from Canon. Perhaps you see that some particular additional ML feature having to do with sound recording is not working/disabled (such as recording sound with raw video), but that does not mean that ML has disabled the built-in sound recording capability from Canon (that would be silly!). ML only adds features to the camera, and pretty much all of ML's features can be disabled leaving you with a camera that is indistinguishable from stock (other than the fact that you can get into the ML menu), even with ML installed.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: 2blackbar on May 07, 2014, 10:14:04 PM
My mistake I had sound disabled in canon menu when i installed ML, i dont know why it happened but its all ok now, i enabled it :)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Yzgyz on May 08, 2014, 11:30:49 AM
Hi,
I've a problem: Since I've installed ML on my Canon EOS M, I cannont shoot photos, in any mode. It's still focusing when pressing half-shutter, but doesn't take a picture when pressing it through.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: funkysound on May 08, 2014, 01:56:56 PM
Hi,
I've a problem: Since I've installed ML on my Canon EOS M, I cannont shoot photos, in any mode. It's still focusing when pressing half-shutter, but doesn't take a picture when pressing it through.

That´s an old known problem ... the shutter bug. Till now nobody found a way to fix it as far as I know.
If you read through this forum you will find diffent ways to solve it. If it is happening to me I just remove the lens while the M is turned on and put it on again - then it should work.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: 2blackbar on May 08, 2014, 10:19:13 PM
Class 6 card is too slow now for magic lantern? My recording stops itself after a couple seconds depends how complicated scene is.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Fioritura on May 09, 2014, 08:13:46 AM
I just got canon M today and its great with unlocked crop zoom in video, i can also mount any lens i want on it and use speed booster wich i already modified for M  :D

Hi 2blackbar, which speed booster did you modify, and how? :-)

Cheers,

Andrew
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tupp on May 09, 2014, 08:31:05 AM
Hi 2blackbar, which speed booster did you modify, and how? :-)

+1000!

... and please post some shots!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Oswald on May 09, 2014, 09:33:24 AM
+1000!

... and please post some shots!


Almost full frame camera with sb. :D Please post shots and pics!! :D
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: 2blackbar on May 09, 2014, 11:46:25 AM
It works nice, i modified it a bit yesterday and sits in camera + clicks into place like if it was made for canon M but i had to tile camera mount a bit, its not possible to unscrew camera mount cause 4 screws are glued with epoxy in factory, i had to cover sensor with solid circle i cut myself and used tape to prevent dirt getting into sensors lowpass filter,  i lost warranty i think by doing that but i dont care that much cause i have second canon M on planet with speed booster , this is main reason i bought this camera, i even considered taking glass out from focal reducer and gluing them into macro tube for canon M , then gluing EF mount on top of macro tube. I had to file speed booster mount and then camera mount, i bought canon M macro rings first before i bought canon M cause i wanted to see if it will work.It works but unless you have nice set of tools to file down the mount teeth in camera a bit then dont get hopes up, it wont work if you tile only speed booster mount because lens mount on canon body have teeth a bit too long towards each other and wont let the speed booster through even if you will tile down all teeth from speed booster nex mount, i think photographers gave this camera bad opinion because autofocus is slow on electronic lenses, but its fantastic canon camera for video, you can mount any lens and sensor is so close its really different camera than everything canon released so far thanks to it, you can experiment with lenses a lot and convert them yourself.
Interesting fact is NEX body cap fits onto canon M.Mounts are very similar.
Its weird cause ive seen news about speed booster for canon M year ago in may 2013 and still nothing, how hard it can be to use different mount on it.
You can also mount canon EF kit lens on focal reducer and its wider than normal but you cant zoom out completly because vigneting starts from 24mm, but even then its wider than bare 18mm zoomed out and i like that.
Speed booster doesnt work that well with telephoto lenses, or maybe because i have old ones, there is shift in focal plane on sides and middle is sharp.
I think differently shaped glass is needed in speedbooster to work well with telephoto like 100mm or 200mm so its not soft on sides, its super sharp in the middle.
Works well with 50mm and it works best with wide lenses from 50mm down, my 24mm lens doesnt vignette with speed booster but canon's EF kit lens does on 24 and you can hide it by moving to 26mm , then its wider than my non kit 24mm which is weird cause it shouldnt be, yeah canon kit lens on speed booster is wider on 26mm than my other 24mm lens on speed booster.
Average performance on telephoto like 100mm might also be like that because i didnt used speed booster for 600$, i used focal reducer for about 100$.
Anyway im very happy that i did it because difference especially with shallow depth of field is really big between aps-c and full frame, wide lenses have quite a lot of bokeh when you frame someone from hip to top of the head, i wanted that on aps-c but fast lenses are expensive, here with focal reducer you can have that on f2.8 lens.
I dont know if this thread is good place to post pics, maybe its better to start new thread because people wont find the info im posting.

It would be nice if magic lantern for canon M could change shutter , iso or WB values if you press on the bottom on them with finger like with original canon overlay with shutter and iso, is there a way to put white balance icon there using original canon options from menu or something ?
I also wanted to try whats the maximum fps canon M can record at 720p using frame override but you cant do 60fps with it, in override menu it says 60 fps (from 30) like if it was in fullHD but its not and its not in 30fps, i picked 60fps 720p , dont know why it shows "from 30", should be "from 60" if in 720p mode i guess ?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: holicow on May 09, 2014, 08:00:19 PM
FYI:

I also suffer from the shutter bug with the 18-55mm.

A Quick Poweroff / Poweron Sequence heals it until the next Poweron.

Used ML: magiclantern-Nightly.2014May03.EOSM202.zip Date: 2014-05-03 12:16:11 +0200 .
Used SD Card: Transcend 90MB/s 600x Class 10 SDXC 64Gb card.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: 2blackbar on May 11, 2014, 12:31:55 AM
I noticed there is black bar on right side of the frame when you record video using fps override with crop zoom enabled, is this normal ? This black area doesnt show up when fps override is disabled.
(http://i.imgur.com/r0s5LTp.jpg)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: RavingRover on May 11, 2014, 08:59:50 AM
Class 6 card is too slow now for magic lantern? My recording stops itself after a couple seconds depends how complicated scene is.

You need to specify more info - are you using a CBR of 1.0, for example or RAW video or .....
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: RavingRover on May 11, 2014, 11:33:22 AM
Anyone know if any effort to enable 'Remote Shooting' via USB & EOS Util. via ML/TL ??

Its incredible that Canon gave us no way to remote control shooting w/ the M !?

If I have missed this capability via ML/TL &/or EOS Utility, plz let me know.

Thx!!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: canoneer on May 11, 2014, 07:18:01 PM
Well I compensate with Dslr.bot over bluetooth, works fine.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware - finally took the time
Post by: canoneer on May 13, 2014, 12:11:59 AM
 :)happy so far. Got the ML for M finally installed and a lot seems to work ok after a few hours fiddling around in the menues testing. Opens a new world also on the M, got it on 60D earlier. Have some old Konica lenses from the 70's I intend to use for video, THANKs for the great work!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Oswald on May 15, 2014, 11:52:20 AM
I'm using ML with my 8-48mm f1.0 lebs with crop mode. I just love to use this lens, covers perfectly sensor in crop mode and it is great video lens. :)

But there is one bug. Camera don't start recirding in crop mode. It have to set to shutter button, then it starts recording properly.  :D
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: bendannett on May 15, 2014, 10:30:42 PM
Hi, I've just installed ML nightly build on my Canon EOSM but have no idea how to access the ML menu....2 finger tap brings up developer screenshot. Apologies for my ineptness, I am new to this game.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: 2blackbar on May 15, 2014, 11:29:53 PM
2 finger tap to open or close ML menu, first time shows info so you have to press set to make it disappear
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: mmm on May 21, 2014, 03:27:15 AM
I also have it on my EOS-M. Installed build from about 2 weeks ago.
I'm running primarily the 35MM f/2 IS EF lens for video, the 22 finds some time too.

So far I have run into zero issues. I did adjust raw settings enough to get crop frame raw working, but I don't have a flow for that or a way to deal with audio, so I just shoot mov with a boosted bit rate. So far so good! No issues yet, other than the odd transient UI glitches.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: slvrscoobie on May 23, 2014, 06:58:09 PM
I have a bug in the latest nightly builds..

Installed the ML - everything else seems to work fine, but with the 18-55 attached, i cannot take a picture. Press shutter fully and nothing happens.
detach the lens, and it fires fine.
Load up stock FW and shutter works with with lens attached...

Thoughts? Ideas?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Oswald on May 23, 2014, 07:18:52 PM
This is called shutter bug. Or one option is to turn camera on and off quickly. This is known bug.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: slvrscoobie on May 23, 2014, 08:21:22 PM
yes, as I've discovered. And no ones figured out how to fix it yet? Tis a shame :(
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: serpicolugnut on May 24, 2014, 04:25:31 PM
I installed the Nightly Build (5/23/14), and am trying to uninstall ML from my EOS-M, but following the instructions, when I try to format the card with ML installed on it, I see the msg 'Format card, leep ML [Tap Screen]'. Tapping the screen does nothing, so I'm unable to uninstall ML. Any ideas?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: lochmorie on May 25, 2014, 11:37:32 AM
Instead of tapping the screen rotate the mode dial from 'manual' to 'A+' that should remove the bootflag and then you can delete the files on the card. You can see the procedure at the end of this video (from 3min 30 seconds). The flash-screen information has changed somewhat with the latest builds - keep a close eye on the bottom of the LCD display after rotating the dial, it will keep you informed of proceedings there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc8Zo-VMUkU
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: mmm on May 25, 2014, 07:39:07 PM
I have to say, the difference of performance in crop mode is very noticeable, when using compressed output. It's really impressive. Running this 35 f/2 IS in crop is a stellar combo, and the quality has almost the air of BMPC. Combining the 35 in regular and crop makes for a nice pair... about 50mm and about 135ish (crop math? its 3x crop of ape-c or 3x of full frame?). Now I'm sorely tempted by the new 16-35mm IS to get some range.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: dod488 on May 26, 2014, 07:48:53 AM
I installed the nightly build from 5/24/14 this morning.  Just saw that HDR had been rolled into Advanced Bracketing.  So that answers one of my questions.

The big question for me is that ML menus only display for about 5 seconds.  Being pretty new to ML this is a real pain.  I looked everywhere but in the right place on where to configure menu display time.  How can I not make the menus time out?

Thanks, Hal
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: holicow on May 26, 2014, 09:38:17 AM
The 5 sec Timeout is an error and is still investigated.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: rushod on May 27, 2014, 09:23:34 PM
Hi all,

after working on ML for over 2 months on my 5D mkII, and more than happy with it, I made my move to to a EOS-M.
I Installed the latest nightly builds (for the last 2 weeks, May 2014), configured and wow!, big difference here in development stage.

I've been trying to set up and configure it based on my 5D experience and what info I've found in the forums, but realize that not only I am dealing with a complete different beast, but I have not managed to get any decent results at all.

My question:

Is there any true and tried documentation about the steps to follow once ML is installed and RAW_REC is running at all?

My biggest issues:

1- aspect ratio; I may be able to choose, say, 16:9 but the result is a stretched file that when squashed to the correct ratio creates artifacts.
2- there's no reliable aspect ratio selection, all I can do is select horizontal; is this the case?
3- though my SD card writes 50mb/s i drop frames anywhere above 1000 pixels across.
4- documentation is spread through the web differently and sometimes people contradicting one another, most info is from last year, and there's very little EOS-M-specific. Or so I have found -apologies if this is wrong.
5- banding in the middle of the video


I'd appreciate if anyone could suggest an up to date guide, i'm ok at installing, etc, except what used to work for me on the 5D is not really doing much for me on the EOS-M.

Moreover, I'm willing to make a step-by-step graphic guide for those facing the same issues, so if anyone is willing to suggest/provide info, experiences, I'd more than appreciate that.

Thanks a lot,
Rush
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: VisualPursuit on May 28, 2014, 02:51:03 PM
The limitation is not the card but the card interface of the camera, sadly so.

And yes, documentation (finding it, even more) is one of the sore points of this project.

So, whatever you can do will surely be very welcome.

I'd love to see stickies with platform specific manuals maintained by
small teams of maybe two or three people.

Since this needs volunteers to help and suggesting is not doing,
my help would be available for EOS M - if anybody cares.

Not that I have a plan yet how to start. Maybe a list of all menu
entries and their limitations that the platform sets explained?

Best practices on top?

Installation and uninstallation step by step?

Available as PDF for Download, maybe plus translations into
other languages? (German: Here.)

Anybody else on board? Suggestions, comments?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: rushod on May 28, 2014, 11:06:27 PM
Hi, sure thing, count me on.

My suggestion: PDF is kinda limiting since it most people are on mobiles nowadays, in my opinion html is the most practical and simple and not OS-specific.

Personally I find the list of menus akin to learning a language by studying the dictionary; my approach would be more or less like: "...and after you installed ML, reboot. Navigate to modules and activate RAW_REC because blah blah, and this or that because of this or that reason", without too much text, mostly screen-shots and some examples so that the whole thing is easy to grasp real quick.

Rush
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: canoneer on May 28, 2014, 11:07:26 PM
Re. Atomos Ninja2 and EOS M.

I am soon a lucky Atomos Ninja2 owner, intended for my future 5DM3, but for learning purposes I will use it on the 60D. and... my M. My question is - will I be able to keep the M screen with ML live while feeding the HDMI output?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on May 29, 2014, 08:27:27 AM
From IRC:

Quote
06:50 < kur1j> am I crazy or does the EOSM version of magic lantern not support focus confirmation in the "Magic Zoom"?

Can you (any of you) describe the exact behavior? If you have a second camera with ML, it may help comparing the Magic Zoom behavior between the two.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Oswald on May 29, 2014, 12:17:52 PM
Re. Atomos Ninja2 and EOS M.

I am soon a lucky Atomos Ninja2 owner, intended for my future 5DM3, but for learning purposes I will use it on the 60D. and... my M. My question is - will I be able to keep the M screen with ML live while feeding the HDMI output?

No. Unfortunately screen goes black.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: digiman on May 31, 2014, 10:35:26 PM
Good afternoon all,

I have just installed ML on my EOS M.   Question,  is there a quick way to adjust my iso without having to two finger tap the screen and select iso then left / right buttons?  I really use ML for the on screen VU audio metering,  Intervalometer and having access to ISO 160,320, etc...  I would love it if there is a way i can use the rotary button next to the display to change iso to those magic numbers quickly. 

thanks!

digiman
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jeffweiss9 on June 02, 2014, 01:58:40 AM
Nor sure where to ask this, but the EOSM for 2.02 firmware would seem to be the relevant place, since that is what I installed on my camera:
I've just succeeded in getting ML loaded and working with my Canon EOS M  with 2.02 firmware and the EF-M 22mm f/2.0 lens for nightscape photography.  Works great, thanks very much all you guys working on this.  However, my other lens is the 18-55mm f3.5 ISM lens which I understand has the "shutter bug" and which, in any case, I don't need ML (at least at this point).  MY QUESTION IS:  Can I just swap SD cards; one with ML installed, the other without, or do I need to uninstall ML on the SD card that has it installed before swapping????   I don't want to turn my EOS M into a brick, so I would love to get an answer to this question before actually trying it.
Thanks in advance,
Jeff
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Oswald on June 02, 2014, 05:56:25 AM
Eos M starts without ml card and can be used without ml card. But remember to switch overlays etc on, otherwise you don't see it.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: digiman on June 03, 2014, 01:50:46 PM
Anyone have an answer if ML iso 160,320,640..etc..  can be switched quickly from the rotary button when I have a eye loupe covering the touch screen?   

Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: mmm on June 03, 2014, 04:28:14 PM
Anyone have an answer if ML iso 160,320,640..etc..  can be switched quickly from the rotary button when I have a eye loupe covering the touch screen?

I didn't figure out a fast way in ML itself, but what I do is just tap info button to switch to Q view, use finger to set ISO, then info back. That is faster than going into ML menu, at least for me. Still disruptive though.

Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: digiman on June 03, 2014, 05:05:07 PM
Thank you for the reply,

I have used Q mode via the info button to change it but it only has the standard ISO 100/200/400/800 etc...  sigh 
The way I intended to use the camera as super compact ENG filming with the power of magic lantern, but if I cannot even control something as simple as ML ISO with the rotary button pad I might just sell my investment in this EOS M and move on..
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on June 03, 2014, 05:14:41 PM
If you set ML ISO to say -0.3 EV, and change ISO in full-stops from Canon menu, it should keep the digital gain unchanged. Just tried on 5D3 and it works as expected.

Note that ML ISO at -0.3 EV is not the same as Canon ISO 160. The second one will not keep the digital gain.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tweak on June 03, 2014, 07:04:42 PM
Hi,

New member here. I have been using ML on the EOSM for about the last month now. I love the output of the crop mode and the ability that gives to use different lenses. I haven't had many problems and so far ML has been quite stable, only a few times I've had the recording stay stuck on and no buttons working, I've had to take the battery out to fix the problem, but it's not a big issue.

I have one question (which I searched to find an answer for); is the Audio Monitoring feature working on EOSM? and if not (which I assume) is there any plans to get that up and running? It's something I would find very useful as I assume other people would also.

Thanks for all the hard work that's been put into ML by all the people on here for the EOSM so far! I'm more than stoked to play around with this camera because of it, I'm no good at coding but I'm more than happy to help test this stuff.

Cheers,
Alex.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jeffweiss9 on June 04, 2014, 05:12:12 AM
Eos M starts without ml card and can be used without ml card. But remember to switch overlays etc on, otherwise you don't see it.

Thank you. If I've understood, it is safe to switch in cards without ML on them and go back to ML when needed.  Right?
-Jeff

Anyway, I tried it and survived. So I guess the answer is yes and no brick.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: andyroo on June 04, 2014, 11:06:22 PM
I noticed on the build features page that none of the focus features are supported (checked). Does this mean that the focus infinity module (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7189.25) won't work? I am trying to get the EOS M to reliably take pictures from an aerial platform, but it loses AF lock and freezes pretty reliably, and I am having trouble focusing to infinity before mounting it on the platform.  With the 22mm lens in MF it loses MF when powered off, and I have to power it off to mount it. I have a 40mm lens, but am having trouble keeping MF focused to infinity there too...

If anyone has any idea on how I can achieve MF to infinity and keep it there, I would be most grateful. In CHDK I can tell the camera to focus to infinity and stay there. That would be sooo very nice if I could do it in ML too.

Thanks for any time.

Andy
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: canoneer on June 04, 2014, 11:29:58 PM
Buy manual glas from the 70's with an adapter,  with only manual focus, or use an EF lense with MF button.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Pharinen on June 05, 2014, 12:04:50 AM
Which build includes headphone monitoring? Does it work any good?

At least in this video there is a build including that submenu:
http://youtu.be/1cHtl0nseEc?t=53s

Tried with latest nightly build, there wasnt that submenu. Btw which one is the most stable release with headphone monitoring and cropvideo?
I don't need raw video, too much hassle with pink dot issues and all.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: EVVK on June 06, 2014, 08:56:58 AM
Tried to figure out some new stubs for EOSM.202 . However I would advice someone checks/verifys them as I haven't had any prior experience on this.

Code: [Select]
NSTUB(FF555B80,  StartPlayProtectGuideApp)
NSTUB(FF5557BC,  StopPlayProtectGuideApp)

NSTUB(FF4E5E2C,  MirrorDisplay)
NSTUB(FF4E5E8C,  NormalDisplay)
NSTUB(FF4E5E5C,  ReverseDisplay)

NSTUB(FF2C17B8,  EngDrvOut)

NSTUB(FF0D7918,  gui_change_shoot_type_post)    ; or is it FF0D7904 ?
NSTUB(FF0D7830,  gui_change_mode)

NSTUB(FF1B524C,  GUI_SetLvMode)
NSTUB(FF134A8C,  SetAudioVolumeIn)

NSTUB(FF2C0474,  mvrSetFullHDOptSize)
NSTUB(FF2C0658,  mvrSetGopOptSizeFULLHD)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on June 06, 2014, 09:35:56 AM
- the first two are only needed for 5D2 and cameras from the same generation (FEATURE_LV_BUTTON_PROTECT)
- the display ones are for variangle displays; you can try enabling FEATURE_IMAGE_ORIENTATION though and try them
- EngDrvOut: already defined, but with a different address (?!)
- gui_change_*: for old-style cameras only
- GUI_SetLvMode: 50D only
- SetAudioVolumeIn: take a look at the new-sound-system branch, maybe used there
- mvrSet*: unused, should be cleaned up (the only one used is mvrSetDefQScale)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: EVVK on June 06, 2014, 03:50:53 PM
Ok , Sorry  :-[
No idea on the actual code calling those, but those few that were marked with questionmarks in the  were empty in EOSM.202/stubs.S . Just tried to help out.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: magnosantos on June 06, 2014, 04:16:41 PM
Hello Guys,

I neewbie on this, and today i finally received my canon eos m (still waiting for the 22mm f2 lens), and after a few experiments with a Pentax M 50mm F1.7, i already noticed that i will have a new toy to play with. Already installed ML (5jun14 nightly) andone thing that i would like to ask, is if it is normal that no Audio Functions are available on ML Menu.

Besides this, does someone recommend a getting started path do HDLSR and ML?

Many thanks, and keep the good work going.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Harry3 on June 08, 2014, 11:48:53 AM
I cannot get the camera to stop taking shots in the Intervalometer mode:
The settings I used were - 3 seconds for duration between shots and to turn off after taking 12 shots.
It counts up to 12 shots and then it starts all over again.
Am I doing something wrong? ::)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on June 08, 2014, 03:00:55 PM
Can you record a video showing the problem?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: khail on June 09, 2014, 04:59:14 AM
not sure if this is the right window but how possible is 4k h.264 video on the eos m :D
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Oswald on June 09, 2014, 09:16:40 AM
not sure if this is the right window but how possible is 4k h.264 video on the eos m :D

Impossible.  :D Never gonna happen.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: khail on June 09, 2014, 04:14:36 PM
curious as to how come, ml can over ride the FPS and compression of H.264
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: dmilligan on June 09, 2014, 10:26:57 PM
curious as to how come, ml can over ride the FPS and compression of H.264
For a complete technical description, have a look at fps-engio.c (https://bitbucket.org/dmilligan/magic-lantern/src/10205a6547dc384c9d143fe016b6165de7b63f52/src/fps-engio.c?at=unified) and bitrate.c (https://bitbucket.org/dmilligan/magic-lantern/src/10205a6547dc384c9d143fe016b6165de7b63f52/src/bitrate.c?at=unified).

Short answer: by calling functions and/or setting registers that were found in the Canon firmware that cause the FPS to change and the h.264 compression to change.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: khail on June 09, 2014, 11:08:05 PM
Ok still a bit foggy but I think I get it. What resolution and card works for you guys while recording raw ?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Braga on June 10, 2014, 10:04:51 AM
I cannot get the camera to stop taking shots in the Intervalometer mode:
Am I doing something wrong? ::)

You can stop the intervalometer by rotating the mode dial, by pressing MENU or PLAY, or by turning off the camera
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Pharinen on June 12, 2014, 09:04:09 PM
Hello Guys,

I neewbie on this, and today i finally received my canon eos m (still waiting for the 22mm f2 lens), and after a few experiments with a Pentax M 50mm F1.7, i already noticed that i will have a new toy to play with. Already installed ML (5jun14 nightly) andone thing that i would like to ask, is if it is normal that no Audio Functions are available on ML Menu.

Besides this, does someone recommend a getting started path do HDLSR and ML?

Many thanks, and keep the good work going.
Which build includes headphone monitoring? Does it work any good?

At least in this video there is a build including that submenu:
http://youtu.be/1cHtl0nseEc?t=53s

Tried with latest nightly build, there wasnt that submenu. Btw which one is the most stable release with headphone monitoring and cropvideo?
I don't need raw video, too much hassle with pink dot issues and all.

Nobody knows? ???
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Oswald on June 12, 2014, 09:11:12 PM
There are no audio functions. Eos M lacks of audio controls. I don't know but i'm using TL build and there is headphone monitoring. I don't know is it working or not. I bought zoom h1 and now I have proper preamps etc.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Pharinen on June 12, 2014, 11:43:07 PM
There are no audio functions. Eos M lacks of audio controls. I don't know but i'm using TL build and there is headphone monitoring. I don't know is it working or not. I bought zoom h1 and now I have proper preamps etc.

OK, thank you! :)

Where can I download the latest TL build(can you put a direct link to the download)?
Is the installation process same as with the ML?

Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: AnthonyEngelken on June 13, 2014, 12:10:54 AM
Wanted to share this here for those who don't visit the hardware thread: DIY LCD Hood Template for EOS M (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12304.0)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Oswald on June 13, 2014, 10:54:27 AM
OK, thank you! :)

Where can I download the latest TL build(can you put a direct link to the download)?
Is the installation process same as with the ML?

http://tl.bot-fly.com

It is the same. But I dont know is there any new features in later builds.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: magnosantos on June 13, 2014, 01:26:03 PM
Can some explain advantages of TL vs ML?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Wynand on June 13, 2014, 01:41:35 PM
In my playing around with ML (and I'm excited!!) I found that my EOS M suddenly did not want to display the ML menus any more.  When booted in M (manual) photo mode it used to display the ML menus when the screen is touched with two fingers.  This has stopped for no reason at all - it just displays the "Welcome" screen ending with "Enjoy"  So I could not change settings etc.  I removed ML, restored the OEM EOS M 2.02, then camera formatted the SD card and re-installed ML.

Same response - only got the "Welcome" screen but no ML menu!!!  Today after trying again, my hand slipped and I touched the SET dail's outer ring on the right side....  and MAGIC!  There my EOS M came alive with the ML menus!  I'm back in business!

I do not know if I posted in the right place or if this is even helpful to the forum members - it worked for me!

Regards.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Pharinen on June 13, 2014, 07:11:19 PM
http://tl.bot-fly.com

It is the same. But I dont know is there any new features in later builds.
Thank you for the help!  :)

Thought I didn't get the headphone monitoring to work.. I was using the a/v cable which came with 550D. When I plug the cable in the screen just blacks out(it doesnt matter if the setting is on or off), camera is still working though. Maybe it thinks that I'm using external screen?

Have anyone got it to work?

E: The exact cable what I'm using is Canon AVC-DC400ST, it should be 100% compatible with EOS M.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Harry3 on June 15, 2014, 07:05:26 AM
You can stop the intervalometer by rotating the mode dial, by pressing MENU or PLAY, or by turning off the camera
Hi,
I just realised that there was a reply to my post.
On my camera the intervalometer will not stop if I use the dial or menu button. Only pressing "PLAY", switch from camera to video button or turning it off.
I am starting to believe that there is a software issue with the intervalometer not turning off on it's own. What a pity as I do not want to use infrared to control the camera. :'(
Regards
Harry
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: florian.gerard51 on June 15, 2014, 10:00:44 AM
hello !

i have a question, i just installed ML on my eos M, it works great for videos but i cannot shoot pictures! i tried M, AV.....nothing works. It does focus but not shoot.

if i put a new sd without ML it does work but with the ML installed SD not working.

Do you have the same issue ?!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Oswald on June 15, 2014, 10:11:05 AM
It is called shutter bug. Just turn off and turn it back on quickly and vuala now it is possible to take pics. :)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: florian.gerard51 on June 15, 2014, 10:20:50 AM
hello

i just turn off and back on but not working ;-(
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: florian.gerard51 on June 15, 2014, 10:36:51 AM
ok thank i did find the thread reporting this issue :
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8347.0

for me the twist lens works....but annoying solution...

thanks
Title: Shooting in H.264....
Post by: Wynand on June 16, 2014, 10:59:39 AM
When I shoot in H.264 (X2.5)  the file is copied from the EOS M as a *.MOV file.  If I now need to render it I use Adobe Premiere (or Vegas 12 Pro).  Here is my problem:  The original *.MOV file is for example 450Mb in size.  If I use Adobe Premiere and render it as "loss less" I get a very large *.AVI file of about 8Gb!  If I render, using H.246 the original file is shrunk from the mentioned 450Mb to 220Mb - indicating more compression...  Is this right?  Am I doing something wrong?  How do I get the best "true" copy of the original file I used after rendering?  Am I using the wrong rendering software?

Please help! 
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 16, 2014, 01:03:58 PM
You have to learn about video formats.

H.264 is a standard covering lots of options. Canon is using just one subset of those options.
Trying to understand what's under the hood may try to blow your mind.

There are different frame types (I-frames, B-frames), different chroma subsampling options and more.

Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Wynand on June 16, 2014, 02:07:39 PM
"You have to learn about video formats.

H.264 is a standard covering lots of options. Canon is using just one subset of those options.
Trying to understand what's under the hood may try to blow your mind.

There are different frame types (I-frames, B-frames), different chroma subsampling options and more."

Thanks Walter..... see below after another test video (please be patient - I'm still learning!)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Wynand on June 16, 2014, 02:43:13 PM
"You have to learn about video formats."

Walter:

So let me put this in another way then.  I have two EOS Ms. On the one I have ML (latest Nightly Build) and have taken the video option (H.264) to X2.0.  I have shot the same video (simultaneously) with both of the cameras.  The video on the ML camera has a *.MOV file much larger then the standard EOS (which is understandable).  When I compare the two videos in my mind the ML video should be better?  In fact I see very little difference.

I used Vegas Pro 12 to render both to a *.m2ts file, viewed both and they looked very much alike.  I also made a second render and put the two videos side by side.  I use a 120Hz latest generation 55" Samsung 1080p monitor for viewing.

Am I doing something wrong?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 16, 2014, 03:21:53 PM
When I compare the two videos in my mind the ML video much look better?  In fact I see very little difference.
AFAIK H.264 encoding is done by hardware.
ML has no influence on noise reduction, chroma subsampling, sharpening done there.
You *may* see differences in motion blur/artifacts if ML is able to manipulate I-/B-frame ratio.

The video on the ML camera has a *.MOV file much larger then the standard EOS (which is understandable).
Well, I don't understand that one. Maybe dev team is able to shed some light on this.

Ciao
Walter (not using H.264 that much)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Sandeep on June 20, 2014, 11:17:28 PM
Hi all,
I installed Magic Lantern on EOS M and there seems to be a few issues.
1. The overlapping focus box on Magic Lantern menu.
2. I cannot seem to use the rack focus. Any idea how to use it on Magic Lantern?

And thanks for porting Magic Lantern to EOS M.  :)

Cheers,
Sandeep
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: canoneer on June 22, 2014, 11:31:44 AM
Hi all ML'ers.

I am using ML for focus helping in foto/video- and crop in video with old Konica lenses. I was wondering if anyone had the 11-22 yet and how the shutterbug showed itself or not?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: canoneer on June 22, 2014, 11:36:26 AM
Hi all ML'ers.

I am using ML for focus helping in foto/video- and crop in video with old Konica lenses. I was wondering if anyone had the 11-22 yet and how the shutterbug showed itself or not?

I just realised that a 11-22 would give me approx. 52-104 zoom in crop, with close to no artifacts.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: midnite on June 23, 2014, 07:27:17 AM
is there another way to go in ML menu without activating my touch shutter?

 it is so annoying i can't use my touch shutter with ML. when i try to tap with my 2 fingers %95 it thinks that i used the touch shutter.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on June 23, 2014, 07:29:40 AM
Press the delete button for one second (with the latest nightly).
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: midnite on June 23, 2014, 07:35:25 AM
You are fast! Thanks!

and i can't believe nobody has  talked about this until now.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on June 23, 2014, 07:38:19 AM
That's because it was added last night.

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/e876a7b1117e
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12380.0
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Wynand on June 23, 2014, 10:46:17 AM
Just checking again...  I took a video yesterday with two EOS M cameras.  One camera runs ML (Nightly latest version) and the other EOS M is standard.  Both cameras were on tripods, running in Manual mode and were started with a single remote.  After 30 seconds I ended the recording.  The EOS M running ML was bumped up to X 2.5 in the movie menu and had a *.mov file much larger than the EOS M running standard.  I could not see a difference between the two movies when I viewed them.  Should ML not provide a better movie when bit rates are set higher than normal?  Comments?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: cpreston on June 24, 2014, 05:55:13 AM
Wynand: I have never tried bumping up the bitrate on the EOS-M, but my understanding based on other people's tests is that increasing the bitrate does very little for image quality on Canon DSLR's.  It might help with certain grades and fast movement, but I have rarely heard of people seeing a difference.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tweak on June 24, 2014, 07:13:29 AM
When I tried changing from 1x to 3x filming the same thing I noticed the 3x video to be sharper... that's just my un-scientific observation. Also I think when what your filming has moving objects it makes more of a difference. This was shot in 3x crop mode.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: velihukka on June 24, 2014, 09:03:33 PM
ok thank i did find the thread reporting this issue :
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8347.0

for me the twist lens works....but annoying solution...

thanks

For me formatting the card and preparing it in MacBoot did away with it. Not sure for other cards though, mine is a Transcend 16GB Class 10.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: khail on June 24, 2014, 11:29:40 PM
What is the, video out put on the eos m,
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: AnthonyEngelken on June 25, 2014, 06:39:02 AM
Also I think when what your filming has moving objects it makes more of a difference.

My observation as well, and it does make color grading a hell of a lot easier. Far fewer artifacts in the shadows to fight with, better definition on edges of moving objects. Video just has better definition in general.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: velihukka on June 25, 2014, 01:53:28 PM
What is the, video out put on the eos m,

HDMI and composite. It's in either PAL or NTSC, depending on the region. I don't think that in this case ML has anything to offer in terms of video output.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: khail on June 25, 2014, 04:37:40 PM
Is it 8 bit ??
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: kolen on June 26, 2014, 09:15:28 AM
Hi, all. Some how I can't confirm it by googling it: does EOS-M record RAW video in 3x crop mode only? And it has PDAF pixel problem?
Thanks all.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: velihukka on June 26, 2014, 03:06:33 PM
Hi, all. Some how I can't confirm it by googling it: does EOS-M record RAW video in 3x crop mode only? And it has PDAF pixel problem?
Thanks all.

In my testing, the camera does record RAW video in full mode, but I couldn't really get anything out of it(sd card too slow, O'm a cheapskate). No idea aout the PDAF problem.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: kolen on June 27, 2014, 08:40:53 AM
Thanks.
For the PDAF pixel problem, I mean those pixel will show up in the RAW video like a hot pixel and requires clean up.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: velihukka on June 27, 2014, 09:26:38 AM
Thanks.
For the PDAF pixel problem, I mean those pixel will show up in the RAW video like a hot pixel and requires clean up.

Oh, I get it. Yes, it does have it, though again, I can't really shoot RAW because of my card.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: 2blackbar on June 28, 2014, 04:27:54 AM
So is the 5 second ML menu timeout eliminated in new builds? I guess not ?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: lochmorie on June 29, 2014, 05:19:18 AM
Sadly, the menu still pops off after about 5 seconds.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Phener on June 29, 2014, 02:32:46 PM
What is the last build without the 5 second menu timeout?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: kareemery on June 29, 2014, 06:35:11 PM
I have my eos-m running the latest nightly. Trying to figure out how to enable audio to run out through usb. Is there an option buried in the menu, or is the audio functions tab a work in progress?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: velihukka on June 29, 2014, 07:06:01 PM
I have my eos-m running the latest nightly. Trying to figure out how to enable audio to run out through usb. Is there an option buried in the menu, or is the audio functions tab a work in progress?

I think there's no audio menu possibility(at least yet).
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: canoneer on June 30, 2014, 06:26:41 PM
I wonder....

After using the ML lightly for some time on the 60d and M, my M suddenly showed all (almost) the ML menues on one page as selectable box images - this during one of my hectic 5 second sessions fighting against the shortlived menu.

But since I have no clue to why I got the one page menu, I can not get back to the full one. The boxed onepage is not complete.

Could one of you help a lost one, please?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: velihukka on June 30, 2014, 07:51:03 PM
I wonder....

After using the ML lightly for some time on the 60d and M, my M suddenly showed all (almost) the ML menues on one page as selectable box images - this during one of my hectic 5 second sessions fighting against the shortlived menu.

But since I have no clue to why I got the one page menu, I can not get back to the full one. The boxed onepage is not complete.

Could one of you help a lost one, please?

Press Menu.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: canoneer on June 30, 2014, 08:36:52 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Wynand on July 01, 2014, 02:59:43 PM
What ML settings should I look at (change) to get the "best" video out of my EOS M using the 22mm lens??  Regards and tx for the fantastic work!!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: velihukka on July 02, 2014, 10:36:02 AM
What ML settings should I look at (change) to get the "best" video out of my EOS M using the 22mm lens??  Regards and tx for the fantastic work!!

Bitrate doesn't really change anything on the EOS M. FPS Override may be useful, but it disables sound. Movie crop mode makes for less noise and other weird stuff by just using the middle of the sensor.

Of course, you can experiment with RAW video, but for that you should check out the subforum dedicated to it.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Oswald on July 02, 2014, 01:27:45 PM
Movie crop mode makes for less noise and other weird stuff by just using the middle of the sensor.
It increases noise. It is true, I have tested it. Crop mode reduces aliasing and moire. because there is no lineskipping.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: cdi1325 on July 03, 2014, 02:03:28 PM
Hi every ones,

Many thanks for the job !

I am new... could you please confirm that with EOS M and new FW 2.0.2 and with nighlty last ML, HDR and RAW are available for video recording ?

I am close to buy EOS M and I need to know...

Thx for your help !
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Wynand on July 03, 2014, 02:18:02 PM
Bitrate doesn't really change anything on the EOS M. FPS Override may be useful, but it disables sound. Movie crop mode makes for less noise and other weird stuff by just using the middle of the sensor.

Of course, you can experiment with RAW video, but for that you should check out the subforum dedicated to it.

I bumped up the FPS but even going to as little as 35 FPS makes the camera "hang" - only way to rectify then is to take out the battery.  The "crop" mode is blanked out....  Any ideas?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on July 03, 2014, 02:27:13 PM
It means the FPS timer limits are wrong. Find out the safe values by changing the timers manually, and I'll update them.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: RavingRover on July 04, 2014, 10:35:28 AM
It increases noise. It is true, I have tested it. Crop mode reduces aliasing and moire. because there is no lineskipping.

I do not see increased noise, actually next to none, but then I use higher bit rates, usually 2.0x CBR. 1 example of this was taking a still of the same shot of same scene of crop vid, the video was much better in shadows (details & low noise) and less geometric distortion.

I do hope the 'next' M (M3? or Pro model) will address the fairly poor H.264 encoder used by Canon (or Texas Instruments - their DSP (DIGIC) suppliers - I assume f/w encoders as well?)

The M3 could be a BMPCC fighter but it has to have much more attention to the video, if not 4k at least state of the art H.264 encoding with higher bit rates and true raw &/or HDMI output & 4:4:2 as well ?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Wynand on July 04, 2014, 10:37:38 AM
It means the FPS timer limits are wrong. Find out the safe values by changing the timers manually, and I'll update them.

Thanks - will do and let you know.  (By saying "timers" you mean manually upping the FPS till it creates issues?)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: oenopion on July 05, 2014, 01:05:20 AM
I had a 4.1 Gb h.264 file come out of my eos-m as a .dat file today?
I've read something about this coming from going over 4 gb, or something I may not have had set right?
Anyway, can that file be retrieved, salvaged, or is it toast?
Thanks.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: RavingRover on July 05, 2014, 02:11:20 AM
I had a 4.1 Gb h.264 file come out of my eos-m as a .dat file today?
I've read something about this coming from going over 4 gb, or something I may not have had set right?
Anyway, can that file be retrieved, salvaged, or is it toast?
Thanks.

Have you simply tried to change the file type to .MOV, .mov or .mp4 ?  A diff file extension/type means NOTHING to the content (many times) just the 'packaging' of the contents!  Do not erase until you check a few things!

ex. - .3gp is just .mp4/H.264, aac audio, etc contents in a file wrapper.

Good Luck!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: oenopion on July 05, 2014, 02:49:57 PM
Yes, I tried a few different tricks. I'm thinking something may not have been fully compiled?
I may try starting a dedicated thread, for this may have also happened on another model?
Mods, can I break my question off into a separate thread?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: cpreston on July 05, 2014, 06:12:31 PM
The creation of a DAT file instead of a .mov file happened to me on a 6D using tragic lantern last year.  I figured it might have something to do with the automatic restart function of ML and continuous file creation in the newer Canon cameras.  I changed a couple of settings and no longer had a problem with the 6D.  I've never had problems with the EOS-M.  In any case, I've never really trusted the 4GB threshold automatic file creation on the Canon cameras with ML installed since then.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: oenopion on July 05, 2014, 07:34:25 PM
Hi cpreston,
I think your incident was the one I had read through. I rarely exceed the limit, but have never had any problems with the restart on my 600D, and a couple times on my 50D. It might have just been a fluke. Were you able to salvage the file? Or have any ideas to try? And what settings did you change, just curious?
Thanks, Sean
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: supertsai on July 06, 2014, 09:17:19 PM
First time poster here, but LONG TIME camera user.

I installed the ML build from July 2nd, 2014 and found it had tons of amazing features, but it pretty much rendered my camera useless.  I cannot reliably take still photos when running ML, and it's a struggle to get the intervalvometer to function.  It seems that I have to power cycle the camera 3-4 times before the camera will take photos and then once I power the EOS M down again, all bets are off.

I'm surprised to not see more people complaining about this - is there something wrong with my camera / build?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Stedda on July 06, 2014, 09:26:59 PM
I'm surprised to not see more people complaining about this - is there something wrong with my camera / build?

Shutter Bug, all 12 pages

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8347.msg95683#msg95683
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: cpreston on July 07, 2014, 03:48:53 AM
Regarding my problems with the DAT file, I couldn't retrieve the files.  I didn't have the patience to track down the problem.  I just loaded a new version of ML and did a couple of tests to make sure I was no longer getting the problem.  I've actually sold the 6D, now.  I continue to us ML on the EOS M even though it sometimes feels like I'm playing around with an OS that is overrun with computer viruses.  It's nothing like the good old days of ML 2.3 on my 60D.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: oenopion on July 07, 2014, 04:49:47 AM
Thanks, that's what I assumed. Luckily this was just some b reel type stuff, so i have no patience to try to track it down either.
And I hear you about the m. I love it for the size factor for hiking, but it is not the easiest to work with right now.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: supertsai on July 08, 2014, 12:07:56 AM
Shutter Bug, all 12 pages

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8347.msg95683#msg95683

Stedda, thanks for helping out the n00b! Glad to know that I'm not going crazy.

I'll try a different card later today and maybe try the lens twisting workaround.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: khail on July 09, 2014, 03:18:25 PM
Is the out put on the eosm 1080, the Atomos ninja star is being released today that will be a nice addition to my eosm, if the output is 1080 and if not how possible is that?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Stedda on July 09, 2014, 03:21:55 PM
Stedda, thanks for helping out the n00b! Glad to know that I'm not going crazy.

...maybe try the lens twisting workaround.

I do the twisting myself...
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: phnloatingman on July 09, 2014, 10:05:09 PM
use speed booster wich i already modified for M  :D

Anyone know a good tutorial to modify a speed booster to work with eos m?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: 2blackbar on July 10, 2014, 01:12:37 AM
Currently the only way is to grind your camera mount a bit and focal reducer mount, i bought cheap focal reducer from ebay for NEX, both mounts are very similar.Now my Camera mount looks like this, all lenses work normally :
(http://i.imgur.com/7tMQGYf.jpg)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: zenerv on July 10, 2014, 11:11:03 AM
Please, can anyone explain why I cannot reach the menu?
I've installed ML like shown on youtube.
Pressing 'info' button shows me ML interface. As I could see in videos, when I tap screen with two fingers, the menu should appear. But I see a text instead:
"Magic Lantern
This is a development snapshot for testing purposes
..."

What's wrong?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 10, 2014, 11:24:16 AM
As there is not only one video on youtube we have not the slightest clue what you have done, which ML version you used and why something went wrong.
That's wrong!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Audionut on July 10, 2014, 11:42:56 AM
Looks like the EOSM has a firmware installer.  First post has been updated.

Quote
The nightly build is now available here:
http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/

Installation:
1) Format the card from the camera.
2) Make sure you are running Canon firmware 2.0.2 (http://pel.hu/down/eosm-v202-win.zip).
3) Copy ML files on the card and run Firmware Update.

Uninstallation:
1) Run Firmware Update from your ML card.
2) Follow the instructions.

(http://a1ex.magiclantern.fm/bleeding-edge/new-installer.png)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: zenerv on July 10, 2014, 03:37:46 PM
Yes, I've done everything as you just told:
1) Low level format in the camera
2) checked the firmware version (2.0.2)
3) downloaded 'magiclantern-Nightly.2014Jul08.EOSM202' from http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/
4) copied unzipped files on SD card using card reader
5) run firmware update
6) after successfull update restarted the camera

The video I used as a guide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSS41UOUNIg

I can try to upload the video with my process of installation, if needed.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: zenerv on July 10, 2014, 04:08:14 PM
Here's what I did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkkOfEAmENA
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: oenopion on July 10, 2014, 07:08:26 PM
Please, can anyone explain why I cannot reach the menu?
I've installed ML like shown on youtube.
Pressing 'info' button shows me ML interface. As I could see in videos, when I tap screen with two fingers, the menu should appear. But I see a text instead:
"Magic Lantern
This is a development snapshot for testing purposes
..."

What's wrong?

On that intro screen, just scroll left or right and you will go into the regular menus.
It is like the screen is the 1st screen of the menus?
Once you've done that it will come up on your last used menu screen as usual.
However, it does seem to return to that screen after every power down?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tweak on July 13, 2014, 01:52:29 PM
I do not see increased noise, actually next to none, but then I use higher bit rates, usually 2.0x CBR. 1 example of this was taking a still of the same shot of same scene of crop vid, the video was much better in shadows (details & low noise) and less geometric distortion.


I agree with that and also usually film with 2.5x CBR and audio enabled. I have had people comment on videos I've taken noticing better details in the shadows and also even a lack of rolling shutter.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: keisconon on July 13, 2014, 09:35:35 PM
Hi guys, I just installed a nightly build from a couple days ago (2014Jul10).  The few enhancements that I've tried are working great.  My main uses are Focus Peaking and Magic Zoom - to aid in manually focusing my legacy lenses.

Question(s):  Is there only a single setting for Focus Peak at this time?  It seems that I can either have the featured disabled (OFF) or enabled (ON,0.5,local).  Is their some way to tweak/customize the settings and be able to cycle through those settings with a button press?  Same for Magic Zoom - can the magnified window be re-positioned to other areas on the screen?

thanks in advance!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: cpreston on July 13, 2014, 10:40:18 PM
I would pay good money if somebody could code a way to reposition the magic zoom window while shooting on the M either through the touch screen or the keys.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: velihukka on July 14, 2014, 10:55:47 AM
Hi guys, I just installed a nightly build from a couple days ago (2014Jul10).  The few enhancements that I've tried are working great.  My main uses are Focus Peaking and Magic Zoom - to aid in manually focusing my legacy lenses.

Question(s):  Is there only a single setting for Focus Peak at this time?  It seems that I can either have the featured disabled (OFF) or enabled (ON,0.5,local).  Is their some way to tweak/customize the settings and be able to cycle through those settings with a button press?  Same for Magic Zoom - can the magnified window be re-positioned to other areas on the screen?

thanks in advance!

You can get to submenus by tapping the screen.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: vasconqs on July 14, 2014, 12:28:57 PM
Hi guys,
I'm thinking on buying an EOS M for video (short budget, I'll end up using it for vacations and the like).
I want ML because of 3 things: HDR video, focus peaking and audio metering.
I have two questions regarding ML on it:
1 - Is it stable enough for shooting a gardening vlog? I don't mind the occasional freeze (patient family crew) as long as it's workable.
2 - What kind/brand of card should I get?
Thanks
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: keisconon on July 15, 2014, 02:32:41 AM
You can get to submenus by tapping the screen.

THANK YOU!!!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: velihukka on July 15, 2014, 01:56:55 PM
THANK YOU!!!

You're welcome!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: bender on July 16, 2014, 07:15:31 PM
hey,

got a problem with the video-mode.
i've tested some nightlybilds, but none helped.

when i start a video, some seconds later (4-8 seconds) i automaticaly stops.
wrong settings oder realy a bug?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tweak on July 23, 2014, 09:34:13 PM
Most likely is that you have too slow an SD card to use all the things you have enabled with ML. What SD card do you have and what are your settings?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jerrykil on July 27, 2014, 10:04:13 PM
#define AF_BTN_STAR 2
in consts.h doesn't work for advanced bracketing, setting it to 1 fixed some of the woes associated with focusing between shots w/ advanced bracketing on
it would be great if continuous shooting fps (like native bracketing) was possible with ML bracketing. It is much slower between captures through ML. any advice?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on July 28, 2014, 08:56:10 AM
Find out Canon values for this custom function, as returned by cfn_get_af_button_assignment(), then I'll tell you which one to use.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on July 30, 2014, 08:54:08 AM
Latest nightly has an important fix from jpaana: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/571/correct-stubs-for-acquirerecursivelock-and/diff

Did you notice any difference?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: kosmarnik on August 01, 2014, 05:56:14 PM
Hi!
I installed ML just fine. 2.02 FW, magiclantern-Nightly.2014Jul30.EOSM202.

All video and interface tweaks work fine, except I can't shoot regular photos.
In photo or intelligent photo mode the the camera just focuses but won't fire with a full press.
If I turn on the 'touch to shoot' it will try to shoot and lock up the interface, no button or screen presses work, only taking out the battery.

Any ideas?
Using a sdcard without ML it works fine.
I can post dumps/logs later when I get home.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: EVVK on August 01, 2014, 08:11:32 PM
...just focuses but won't fire with a full press.
Any ideas?
Using a sdcard without ML it works fine.
I can post dumps/logs later when I get home.
Hey, welcome!

It's called shutter-bug, just browse in previous posts. It appears with EF-M zoom lenses, not fixed (22mm) primes or with EF-adapter. There are atleast two known? work-arounds when it appears, either quickly reboot your camera by pressing powerbutton twice, or just twist the lens and reseat it again while the camera is on.

I'm not sure if we still have any clues what triggers this bug, as it appears mostly to be random. Sometimes it wierdly seems to work fine for a while in a row.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: gmr20 on August 02, 2014, 07:29:52 PM
When I use FPS Override to shoot a video at night with very low FPS (about 1),
the first few frames (of both video file and LCD when shooting) will go very dark, then very bright, and then normal.
Is this a bug? Or can you make an adjustment for it? Thanks.

Meanwhile I need to use EV -3 for a correct brightness video at daylight with a ND8. That's quite weird too.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tob on August 03, 2014, 11:43:36 AM
Anyone using ETTR+DUALISO?


Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: ganselm on August 03, 2014, 05:52:28 PM
I tried ETTR but it just seems to generate random exposure times, most of the time much too long (several seconds in sunny daylight). The same happens when combined with dualiso
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: DiamondGeezer on August 05, 2014, 11:44:45 AM
Hello,

Few questions on the EOS-M when going into ML if you don't touch anything for 6-7 seconds it comes out of the ML Menu, can this be changed?

With ML installed power saving options do not appear to work, I'm set to 1 min but is there something in ML overriding this?

How do I remove ML, I'm go to format, only option I have is format card, Keep ML. I tap the screen to toggle but nothing happens.

TIA
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: vertigopix on August 05, 2014, 11:51:43 AM
Format you card in your computer et voilà !
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on August 05, 2014, 12:00:58 PM
Or report the bug...

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues?q=eos-m
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: vertigopix on August 05, 2014, 12:28:20 PM
Or report the bug...

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues?q=eos-m

It's effectively impossible to tap to switch.
Bug report done.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on August 05, 2014, 01:05:46 PM
Almost fixed, please review: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/575/restore-after-format-refactoring-fix-for/diff
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: DiamondGeezer on August 06, 2014, 11:45:36 AM
Can't seem the option to shoot in video in Raw, is this an option on the EOS M ?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 06, 2014, 11:46:55 AM
You have to load RAW_REC.MO or MLV_REC.MO first. See Module tab.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: DiamondGeezer on August 06, 2014, 12:08:01 PM
You have to load RAW_REC.MO or MLV_REC.MO first. See Module tab.

RAW_REC.MO enable and camera restarted, still can't see an option to enable raw

If I don't touch anything with 7 secs the camera comes out of ML, not giving me enough time to have a proper read through options
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 06, 2014, 12:38:54 PM
Movie tab
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: DiamondGeezer on August 06, 2014, 01:26:48 PM
Movie tab

Nope not showing, just glanced through the whole thread and noticed a linky to TL, stuck that on and now have the raw option after enabling the modules.

I'm was using the latest ML nightly builds

Also the same also with duel iso, enable the ML IOS  module but it does not show under the expo tab but shows using TL
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on August 06, 2014, 02:00:04 PM
Just noticed the EOS-M build was missing some modules and recompiled it.

Make sure you didn't disable all the modules by mistake from the Debug menu.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jerrykil on August 06, 2014, 03:03:42 PM
Sometimes when enabling a module and restarting, I don't give the camera enough time to fully power off. The camera flashes orange a few seconds after hitting the power button, wait until then to start up again.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: vertigopix on August 06, 2014, 03:04:28 PM
Just noticed the EOS-M build was missing some modules

I was thinking that is "normal" and didn't report it... My bad.
Thank you a1ex !
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: vertigopix on August 06, 2014, 03:07:30 PM
Tried with my EOS-M, no problems, all modules loading perfectly.

The "ML menu dissapearing after 5-7 sec." bug is still present.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: DiamondGeezer on August 06, 2014, 05:26:53 PM
Tried with my EOS-M, no problems, all modules loading perfectly.

The "ML menu dissapearing after 5-7 sec." bug is still present.

I've just tried the latest build, can see more modules now and enabled Dual ISO and the raw videos ones but still not joy

My guess is they are not loading, with TL if I pull the battery out then startup there is an error saying camera was not shutdown properly... modules not loading, using the on / off switch then its ok. With ML if I pull the battery I do not see this error hence I'm guessing they are not loading and that's why I can't play with raw video / dual ISO
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on August 06, 2014, 05:30:14 PM
Paste a screenshot of the "modified settings" menu (the one with a Delta icon).
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: vertigopix on August 06, 2014, 05:33:15 PM
Stop using TL, it is not longer maintened.
With the latest ML there is no problem !
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: DiamondGeezer on August 07, 2014, 09:28:11 AM
low level format, latest build and all ok now
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: leicatill on August 09, 2014, 03:58:06 PM
I own a Canon EOS-m with the Tamron lens E-M 18-200mm VS. After installing ML I can't take a photo. Changing to Canon 18-55mm all is ok. Anyone can help?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 09, 2014, 04:06:43 PM
Shutter bug again, I suppose. Do a search about
Shutter bug twist lens
and test the procedure. Please post results.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jerrykil on August 09, 2014, 07:18:09 PM
Find out Canon values for this custom function, as returned by cfn_get_af_button_assignment(), then I'll tell you which one to use.
thx for the reply a1ex. so cfn_get_af_button_assignment() is returning appropriate values from the C.Fn menu. Here is a screenie from the menu:
(http://tl.bot-fly.com/misc/_images/cfn.jpg)
consts.h for af_disable is 2 right now, which does not disable it.
Is there any way to shoot in continuous mode to get handheld bracketing to be a possibility?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: dpeete on August 09, 2014, 08:05:48 PM
Sorry for the noob post, but the forum search isn't helping due to minimum search term length constraints and Googling my questions only yields install videos. I have ML running, and I am stumbling through the menus with some luck setting up the intervalometer, which was my primary case. But I could use a bit of help getting to standard aperture and shutter speed settings because I can't seem to do this well from the ML Live View screen.

What is the Q button equivalent for our camera?

Is there an EOS M specific user guide out there?

Any guidance on standard photo shooting so I can quickly make aperture and shutter adjustments from the ML Live View screens?

Is there a better place to post noob questions? (This 14 page thread has so much info, much of it out of date, it really isn't terribly helpful for "getting started" noobs to start on page 1 and read through).

Thanks!

Doug
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: leicatill on August 10, 2014, 12:11:25 AM
I tried all, but no success. With all Canon lenses ML works perfect, but not with the Tamron E-M 18-200mm. After turning on the camera I had the shutter bug. Then I twisted the lens off, wihout turning the camera off and twisted the lens on and it works. After turning the camera off and on again I had the shutter bug again.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 10, 2014, 12:15:18 AM
Yes, that's why it's called a bug. Use the workaround you described.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tomlai on August 10, 2014, 04:24:05 AM
On the EOS-M, when using HDMI output on an external while shooting, I notice two things.

A) Focus peaks are shifted half a screen upwards

B) Touch screen is disabled ---- so basic camera controls are gone . how to change focus point, access to "Q" etc

Are my observations correct or am missing something here?

--------------------------------------------------
Also how do we access the touch camera functions while in ML mode (direct camera screen and when using the HDMI output)???
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jerrykil on August 12, 2014, 05:49:20 PM
another question for the developers.
I noticed PROP_AEB sets the range of EV's taken with built-in HDR. The max value was 10, has anyone tried to set PROP_AEB to get a greater EV spread (> +/- 2 EV)?
Thanks dudes

edit: tried to set PROP_AEB past 16 and it gave me an error sayin it wasnts 2 bytes, oh well...
Title: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: johangx on August 12, 2014, 07:40:14 PM
whenever I try to burn me video ML raw red dots appear on the images someone been the same

http://es.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadepantalla2014-08-12alas125742.php
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tweak on August 13, 2014, 03:44:31 PM
Access to ML menu whilst using an external screen can be done by holding down the Trash Can button for 3 seconds. I usually set my camera up well before plugging it into a screen, but if I need to do anything it's usually only changing shutter speed and iso and this is quite easy to do by simply holding down the trash can button then going into the shortened ML menu (the one you get to if you press the Menu button after holding down the trash can). I'm not sure what other controls you would really need to use quickly on a shoot that aren't easy to get to.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jpaana on August 13, 2014, 06:20:29 PM
whenever I try to burn me video ML raw red dots appear on the images someone been the same

http://es.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadepantalla2014-08-12alas125742.php

These are the "Pink Dots" aka AF pixels that are on the sensors, similar to what 650D and 700D have. There are ways to remove them, search for PinkDotRemover or use chroma smoothing options to mlv_dump (-cs2x2 or 3x3) or similar option in the converter you use.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tweak on August 13, 2014, 09:52:29 PM
Really stoked with the progress so far of ML on the EOSm. I've been using the latest nightlys as they release and I'm never really having a problem with anything I do, really stoked with it!

One question I do have however as I start to muck around a bit more with RAW is this:
What is the easiest way to remove the Pink Dots from MLV footage on Mac OS??? The fact that MLV now records audio on the M is amazing, but I can't for the life of me find information on a simple process (or any) to remove these pink dots from MLV on Mac OS.

Please help me internet gurus!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tweak on August 14, 2014, 11:58:52 AM
To add further to what I'm asking, I am aware of PDR for RAW files but what I want to know if there's something that can do this directly for MLV? It would be awesome if it was integrated into MLRawViewer somehow... surely there's someone who can do that :D .
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: vixnadi on August 15, 2014, 09:25:15 PM
Hi everyone.

I don't know if this is good place for my problem but I will try...

I tried latest nightly build for eos m and I noticed that shutter locks. I can only check focus on half pressed button and nothing happens when full pressed.

On card without ML all works good.

I tried full reset camera and ML configuration and nothing helps.

Has anyone the same problem? Maybe any solution?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 15, 2014, 09:29:45 PM
Do a search for
Shutter bug twist lens
and try the workaround
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: vixnadi on August 16, 2014, 08:59:35 AM
Working. Thanks!

But I made some test with different SD cards and I must say is important which one is used...

I have 3 card to test. All of them low level format from canon menu.

1st. Old SanDisk 2GB class 2. ML installed and I'm not noticed any problem with shutter even after longer fun.

2nd. New SanDisk SDHC 8GB class 10. On this card shutter is locked from first use. Helps twist lens but only to power off. Next start camera and shutter is locked again.

3rd. GoodRam microSD with adapter 8GB class 4. This card the same as first works without any problem with shutter even after longer play.

All of them tested in the same way. Always low level format. 2nd card even performed full format from windows, next low level from canon camera and always shutter is locked from firs usage.

Maybe this helps to improve next release.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 16, 2014, 09:37:53 AM
Sounds strange to me. You're sure you didn't change lenses during this test? Which lens was used?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: vixnadi on August 16, 2014, 09:49:15 AM
No, lens not touched during test. I have only 18-55mm.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 16, 2014, 09:57:51 AM
Thanks for your input!
Curious about what the devs have to say about this odd thing.

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: leicatill on August 16, 2014, 01:17:13 PM
Hello,
I tried a lot of cards and I think, it works only with file-system FAT, not with FAT32 or exFAT. I formated a 4GB class4 micro SDHC card on the PC with file-system FAT, copy the file and then installed ML and all works fine including the lens Tamron E-M 18-200 VC.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: leicatill on August 16, 2014, 01:37:13 PM
PS.:
by using the tamron E-M 18-200mm, after opening the battery door, you need to twist the lens, but only one time. you can turn the camara on or off and all works till you open the battery door. With Canon lenses are no limits.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: vixnadi on August 16, 2014, 06:53:56 PM
I think it is not valid all time. I have two 8GB cards and both FAT32. 1st works but second not...
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: cpreston on August 16, 2014, 07:55:14 PM
I've been wondering and have been meaning to test it out, but it I haven't had the bug show up in awhile.  Has anybody tried changing the camera menu to allow shutter release without a lens attached to see if it fixes the issue?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: leicatill on August 17, 2014, 12:41:23 PM
I tried changing the camera menu to allow shutter release without a lens attached an there was no difference. I only have the problems with the the Tamron lens E-M 18-200mm and ML, All Canon EF-M lenses works finewith ML.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: vixnadi on August 19, 2014, 08:40:47 AM
I played another few days with 8GB SD class 4 and no any shutter lock... I'm really interested what developer says for this problem...

And I found intervalometer bug. If used MAKE PICTURE for start the last picture made by intervalometer activates next intervalometer loop. Camera makes photos infinity...
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on August 19, 2014, 08:56:21 AM
Is there any way to shoot in continuous mode to get handheld bracketing to be a possibility?

Greg did some research here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8535.0
but I could only get it working on 500D. I should probably revisit it, since others also confirmed it on 550D and 600D.

Another way would be with the full-res silent pictures, once we figure out how to use the rolling shutter.

Quote
edit: tried to set PROP_AEB past 16 and it gave me an error sayin it wasnts 2 bytes, oh well...

ML will refuse to change a property if its length does not match the length reported by Canon firmware. If a property is known to have different lengths on different cameras, but if the code is generic enough to cover all cases (usually the data buffer being large enough), you can pass 0 to use the autodetected length.

Quote
And I found intervalometer bug. If used MAKE PICTURE for start the last picture made by intervalometer activates next intervalometer loop. Camera makes photos infinity...

Just tried it on 5D2 and 5D3 and it works fine; probably a camera-specific quirk. Report it to the issue tracker, with a video showing the problem.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: arcadio on August 19, 2014, 01:29:36 PM
Hi Im new here, but I read whole 14pages. So also I hawe shutter bug with EOS-M +18-55 STM. But fast on/off solve this. I bought the camera at shop and I already have firmware 2.0.2 in it. I tried 2 different cards, but bug still here. maybe it will help.

But my question: did Nightly support ghost images? or is there some other module which help to create panoramas? sorry for maybe dumb question.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tweak on August 19, 2014, 01:51:37 PM
We should make a sticky at the top of this thread about the "shutter bug"... since half of this thread is people asking the same question.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Stedda on August 19, 2014, 03:28:26 PM
We should make a sticky at the top of this thread about the "shutter bug"... since half of this thread is people asking the same question.

Wouldn't matter, more than half of all posts are people asking the same covered topics over and over again...
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jerrykil on August 19, 2014, 09:02:06 PM
Greg did some research here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8535.0
but I could only get it working on 500D. I should probably revisit it, since others also confirmed it on 550D and 600D.
Great thread. Apologize I couldn't find it on my own. I will play with this code and see if it works on EOSM.
Another way would be with the full-res silent pictures, once we figure out how to use the rolling shutter.
This is very interesting and exciting, also. Though, I'm not up to date on those new features...yet.

Wouldn't matter, more than half of all posts are people asking the same covered topics over and over again...
Personally, I would like to be able to make multiple searches without having to wait 15 seconds. For example, I was searching for prop_aeb and continuous hdr, but was unable to find the fast hdr that greg had posted on. after a few search queries, i grew tired of waiting 15 seconds between each dead end search...

As always, thanks for the hard work a1ex!!!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 19, 2014, 09:12:04 PM
If you don't want to wait use google. Just line up your search terms and restrict your search as in
anything you want to look for site:magiclantern.fm/forum


Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tweak on August 20, 2014, 06:30:28 PM
Test Footage from EOSm shooting MLV RAW. Read the description for more info. By the way this is my first attempt at it so any info/help is greatly appreciated.

Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: arcadio on August 20, 2014, 09:26:56 PM
ShutterBug
I foung solution for me (EOS-M with 18-55 IS STM). Pulling battery out!
I think it is like rooting Samsung S1, if you dont pull battery out, you jump into boot loop and you will never get rooted phone.

1) format SD card (low-level)
2) copy ML files
3) install ML
4) turn off (wait until led stop blinking)
5) pull out battery and card!!!
6) wait aprox. 5sec and put all back
7) turn on

(dont need twist lens, dont need fast turn on/turn off, dont need special SD card, dont need new firmware)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: jerrykil on August 20, 2014, 11:37:52 PM
ShutterBug
I foung solution for me (EOS-M with 18-55 IS STM). Pulling battery out!
Please read this thread about the shutter-bug: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8347.275
If you don't want to wait use google. Just line up your search terms and restrict your search as in
anything you want to look for site:magiclantern.fm/forum
thanks 8)
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: brihan on August 21, 2014, 03:44:02 AM
I have the August 08 build on my eosm and last night I was playing with external audio. The first time I plugged in the output from my mixer I was able to change levels manually using the Canon menu. Then after recording a test file I noticed that ML wasn't showing me the audio levels. At this point even the Canon audio menu isn't showing me any levels any more. Camera reboot didn't help. Audio is being recorded into the videos though. Very strange...
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tweak on August 21, 2014, 08:19:38 AM
I think I read some glitch with Audio in the 600/650D thread to a similar nature, maybe someone has more info?
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Algkalv on August 21, 2014, 10:29:47 AM
Hello all,

I'm new here, sorry if repeating already discussed question, but didn't found in search.

Installed the 08-19 nightly build:
magiclantern-Nightly.2014Aug08.EOSM202.zip

In Manual mode the ML menu doesn't show up at all, in A mode works the Delete button.

When in menu, the submenu doesn't show up none of the submenus - is there some trick with the Q button?

Thanks,
Algkalv
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: nereis on August 21, 2014, 12:53:56 PM
Hi everybody,

I'm very newbie, sorry if disturbing with shallow issues, maybe you'll help me decide to buy a EOSM camera.

Is any chance to set EOSM with ML loaded to shoot with display turned off?
It seems you cannot do this with its original firmware.

I wish I use EOSM  as a discrete package with 22mm (35mm equiv) lens plus a hot shoe old style 35 mm  optical viewfinder.
 
When playing with  the camera in a showroom, couldn't find a way to shoot in PASM modes with display turned off.
Turning off the display from a custom set button and continuing to shoot with the camera would be a very nice "pro" option,
saving battery and nerves while using fixed lens and the appropriate optical viewfinder.

Many thanks for your attention! All the best with your great ML projects!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: cpreston on August 21, 2014, 05:26:15 PM
Right now, ML allows you to turn off the display after 5 seconds of not being used.  If a picture is taken or a setting changed, though, the display pops back up for five seconds.  It might be possible to add a method to turn off the display entirely, but I didn't see it.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: nereis on August 22, 2014, 01:17:48 AM
@cpreston
Many thanks for the information, would be so nice to find a way to keep the display turned off while shooting. In my dreams I imagine taking pictures with a fixed lens like the 22mm and an optical viewfinder without any annoying display response, in an almost Leica like photographic approach, just shooting...from my perspective, even you loose some controls, this feature might transform the EOSM in a more versatile tool.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tweak on August 22, 2014, 03:36:00 PM
Well what you could do is plug in the cord for an external screen, this would switch the screen to black... although I guess that's not the best option around. I haven't seen an option for turning the screen off completely besides that.

To the guy above what do you mean by "Manual mode"? The ML menu should show up any-time by either holding down the trash button for three seconds or two finger tapping the screen. If you want to switch between the 2 ML menus you have to press the "menu" button after either two finger taping or holding down the trash button.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tweak on August 22, 2014, 05:16:25 PM
Maybe I'm an idiot and never realised, but I have some interesting info in regards to the focus box while using crop mode as I always assumed it didn't work...

I found that the focus box does actually work in crop mode as long as you make sure the focus box is positioned in the top of the screen (top left) and I usually set pixel size at 2:1 for best results.

It works in small medium or large box size, but the small window looks the least glitchy. The bigger sizes will have some flicker, but on my camera are still totally useable to judge focus.

If this has been discussed already I apologise, but I don't remember reading it here, hopefully it helps others like me.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: cpreston on August 22, 2014, 05:45:33 PM
Regarding magic zoom, it took me awhile to figure out how to use it with EF-M lenses while maintaining manual focus.  The best way to do it is to go into the M's Config menu and reassign the focus to the * button on the dial so that it no longer focuses when you half press the shutter button.  Also, set the focus mode to AF/MF and set magic zoom to appear when focusing or half pressing the shutter.  Now you can set the focus box by tapping the screen and then when you turn the focus ring or half press the shutter button, the magic zoom box will appear to aid in focusing.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: andyroo on August 22, 2014, 07:40:59 PM
I wonder if someone on this forum could give me some pointers. I am trying to use the EOS M + intervalometer to collect aerial imagery from a Cessna, but I have a problem - in AF, when flying over water sometimes the reflection stops the AF from achieving focus and the rest of the flight there are no images. Even when not over water the AF makes it so that the minimum delay between pics is too long ( > 3 sec) to get continuous coverage.

But in MF I can't reliably get the 22mm pancake to stay in focus, even using magic zoom on a faraway object to manually focus before takeoff. I think I've had about 1 out of ~20 flights work ok.

I am also flying with a D10 modified with CHDK, and in that case, I have an intervalometer script that tells CHDK to focus to infinity and lock focus. Is there any way to do something like that programattically with the EOS M? Someone at some point told me to "use '70s glass" Can anyone be a little more specific and tell me what lens and adapter I would need to get the closest to 35mm as possible on the EOS M?

Sorry if I am beating a dead horse, or offending anyone by comparing CHDK with Magic Lantern. I am a scientist, not a photography wizard, and I am currently contemplating an experiment whereby I determine how many pieces the EOS M fragments into when dropped from an airplane at 600 meters.

Andy
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: sstbrg on August 23, 2014, 10:52:25 AM
I haven't read absolutely every post in here, so I'm sorry if I'm being repetitive.
When I adjust WB, I can't set it back to AWB. Removing ML doesn't help, it's stuck at the previous Kelvin value.
I need to clear all the camera's settings to get AWB back.  :'(
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tweak on August 23, 2014, 11:44:35 AM
In regards to my last post, I had said that "magic zoom" worked in crop mode, what I meant to say was that the "focus box" zoom works in crop mode, the "magic zoom" (fullscreen) on the other hand does not. This is still quite handy however and I didn't realise it was useable until now.

^To the poster above I always have the same problem. Once you move from AWB there is no way to get back to that setting unless you reset the cameras settings. I usually just shoot in 5400, but if you want auto it's almost best not to touch that dial! haha.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tweak on August 23, 2014, 11:48:35 AM
Regarding magic zoom, it took me awhile to figure out how to use it with EF-M lenses while maintaining manual focus.  The best way to do it is to go into the M's Config menu and reassign the focus to the * button on the dial so that it no longer focuses when you half press the shutter button.  Also, set the focus mode to AF/MF and set magic zoom to appear when focusing or half pressing the shutter.  Now you can set the focus box by tapping the screen and then when you turn the focus ring or half press the shutter button, the magic zoom box will appear to aid in focusing.

You are on the money when using EF-M glass and regular shooting mode.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: tweak on August 23, 2014, 11:57:00 AM
Someone at some point told me to "use '70s glass" Can anyone be a little more specific and tell me what lens and adapter I would need to get the closest to 35mm as possible on the EOS M?

Andy

What they are talking about is using a manual focus lens like FD, PK or OM glass. You can get all these adapters to EF-M mount on ebay for about 10 dollars a pop. Then all you need to do is get the right size lens for your needs and set the lens to infinity focus, in this way your camera will not auto-focus and will take shots much quicker. (you will need to go into the camera settings and enable "release shutter without lens").

As for length of lens the conversion will be 1.6x, so you will probably need either a 20mm (32mm equiv) or 24mm (38.4mm equiv) lens. Old 20mm lenses are quite expensive and also quite heavy and big, I think your best best would be trying to find an 24mm in P/PK mount (Pentax), these lenses also seem to be smaller than most.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: arcadio on August 25, 2014, 09:05:09 PM
When I adjust Kelvin WB, I can't set it back to AWB.
I solved this by going to "Q" menu, set WB to some value (sunny) and after set to AWB. Anyway to set Kelvim WB to Auto would be perfect.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: EVVK on August 27, 2014, 11:06:55 AM
@arcadio: Your above shutter bug doesn't seem to work 100%.

For me it indeed works first time straight after install. But this is nothing new, I've had luck to get it working 25times in the row, where I thought I had something. But then suddenly the bug was back again. It's random.

Anyway, add to your procedure that you take take two photos and then Press the power-button. Wait few seconds then press on again.  The bug is back. Almost always for me. (11-22 lens and sensor cleaning off). However If I wait 2 minutes my luck is better and it usually works.

Maybe there is a soft shutdown pattern.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Steve_Brule on August 27, 2014, 04:52:22 PM
I wonder if someone on this forum could give me some pointers. I am trying to use the EOS M + intervalometer to collect aerial imagery from a Cessna, but I have a problem - in AF, when flying over water sometimes the reflection stops the AF from achieving focus and the rest of the flight there are no images. Even when not over water the AF makes it so that the minimum delay between pics is too long ( > 3 sec) to get continuous coverage.

But in MF I can't reliably get the 22mm pancake to stay in focus, even using magic zoom on a faraway object to manually focus before takeoff. I think I've had about 1 out of ~20 flights work ok.

I am also flying with a D10 modified with CHDK, and in that case, I have an intervalometer script that tells CHDK to focus to infinity and lock focus. Is there any way to do something like that programattically with the EOS M? Someone at some point told me to "use '70s glass" Can anyone be a little more specific and tell me what lens and adapter I would need to get the closest to 35mm as possible on the EOS M?

Sorry if I am beating a dead horse, or offending anyone by comparing CHDK with Magic Lantern. I am a scientist, not a photography wizard, and I am currently contemplating an experiment whereby I determine how many pieces the EOS M fragments into when dropped from an airplane at 600 meters.

Andy

I bought an adaptor for EF lenses on eBay for $35. There a lot of them, but get one with a tripod mount, like this:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Electronic-Auto-Focus-AF-Lens-Adapter-Canon-EF-EF-S-mount-to-EOS-M-EF-M-camera-/331273182148?pt=US_Lens_Adapters_Mounts_Tubes&hash=item4d216b9bc4

There are also adaptors to m4/3 etc on eBay, or you can add a Nikon adaptor to the EF to EF-M adaptor, like this:  http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/742913-REG/Vello_LA_CEF_NAF_Canon_EOS_To_Nikon.html/prm/alsVwDtl  There are lots of these as well.

Pick a lens that has a hard-stop focus ring. You could use the Tokina 12-28 f/4 on the EF to EF-M adaptor (gives you lots of focal length choice from 19-45mm FF equiv), set aperture at f/8, focus at infinity (beware some lens markings are not accurate, so check this before flight, or take a focus at about 1000 feet away), and use electric tape to make sure the zoom and focus rings do not move during flight.   http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/969884-REG/tokina_12_28mm_f_4_0_at_x_pro.html

High end lens option:  http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/655184-REG/Zeiss_1762_848_Distagon_T_21mm_f_2_8.html

Nikon (add nikon F adaptor):  http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/36905-GREY/Nikon_1415_Super_Wide_Angle_20mm.html

Cheaper nikon option:  http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/66980-GREY/Nikon_1919_Wide_Angle_AF_Nikkor.html

Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: dchen99 on August 27, 2014, 05:42:28 PM
Hi there.
I loaded the latest nightly build but did not find anywhere to setup time lapse? A google search did not come up with anything helpful. Could someone here point me to some useful resources (web site, documents, tutorial etc.)? Thanks.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 27, 2014, 06:03:00 PM
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5705.0
First hit when using
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=timelapse+site%3Awww.magiclantern.fm%2Fforum
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: ronh_pm on August 28, 2014, 03:01:25 AM
I am using magiclantern-Nightly.2014Aug20.EOSM202

I find that if I use "Continuous Shooting" mode, I will get a burst of about 7-8 frames before the buffer fills and then if I try to shoot again as the buffer clears, the camera will lock up to the point that I need to remove the battery to reset it.

It does not seem to be dependent on manual or autofocus.

thanks for the time and please forgive if this has been covered.

Ron
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: dchen99 on August 30, 2014, 02:50:03 PM
Has any one used post deflicker module with xmp successfully?
I installed the latest nightly build (magiclantern-Nightly.2014Aug20.EOSM202.zip) and followed the instruction mentioned in this thread: http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5705.0 (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5705.0).
There were no .xmp files generated along the .cr2 files.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: $167 on September 01, 2014, 10:04:13 AM
Hi everyone! I have been using ML on 60D for a while. I purchased the EOS M last week and been playing with ML for a couple days (Nightly.2014Aug20.EOSM202). I would like to share my user experience and hopefully get some tips & advises from you if you have better way/shortcut of handling these.
I understand the fact we are using nightly builds but I hope there are better solutions that I just missed. Thank you!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: mxma1 on September 02, 2014, 04:11:59 PM
Hi everyone! I have been using ML on 60D for a while. I purchased the EOS M last week and been playing with ML for a couple days. I would like to share my user experience and hopefully get some tips & advises from you if you have better way/shortcut of handling these.
  • one major issue I'm having when I was going thru setting in the ML menu, if I pause for a sec or two, the screen switches from menu to the ML live view. It gets annoying, did I miss something here?
  • I found it difficult to change aperture/shutter/ISO setting when I was in the ML live view. I was in M mode, I could roll the dial to change the shutter setting and if I want to mess with the other two, I have to open up ML menu OR switch to Canon live view screen (which defects the purpose of the ML).
  • Is Auto-Kelvin WB available in current build? If not, is there any shortcut switching between different WB preset (including AWB) within ML live view? Currently I have to switch to Canon menu to adjust WB. I hope the Arrow/SET shortcuts will be included in future release
  • *NOT ML related - I'm shooting with the 22mm and would like to use manual focus exclusively relaying on ML's Focus Peak feature. However I noticed the focus ring takes a good 360+ turns to focus from infinite to MFD. It makes it difficult to operate. Any advise?
I understand the fact we are using nightly builds but I hope there are better solutions that I just missed. Thank you!

Hi and welcome! I've been using ML on the EOS M for the past 2 months and here's my experience in response to your questions:

Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: Parafly on September 03, 2014, 07:44:10 PM
Hey guys

Sorry if this is a dumb question but is there a guide for using ML quickly with my Eos M. I've had ML on my T2i for years and have gotten very quick at using it. I'm shooting a wedding this Saturday and the eos M is my 2nd camera and I'm struggling to really feel comfortable with it so far.

In particular, i can't seem to find the Auto WB Adjust (I usually use this w/ a grey card when changing lighting situations with my t2i).

Also, I can't seem ot find Quick Settings. On the T2i I just hit the AV button and then I can use L / R for ISO, U / D for Kel, and the cneter button for Push WB.

thanks!!!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: $167 on September 04, 2014, 10:18:27 AM
Hi and welcome! I've been using ML on the EOS M for the past 2 months and here's my experience in response to your questions:

  • This is a known issue. Canon's GUI has some way of canceling out the ML menu while in LiveView on the 6D and EOS M (there is only LiveView on the EOS M, so that means always)
  • The EOS M has a native functionality where you press the +/- button on the jogwheel buttons to alternate wheel control of the shutter speed or aperture. In the regular LiveView mode, you will see the green indicator alternate between the two boxes when you press this button. As for ISO, you have the option of setting Custom Function VI to assign the Trash Can button to select ISO Speed. With these two options, you can quickly change all 3 exposure values quickly and easily while using ML LiveView
  • Unsure, sorry
  • I don't think ML currently supports any kind of modification to EOS M's focus ring awfulness... but being able to increase the rotation sensitivity of the focus ring sounds like an amazing feature!

Hi mxma1, thank you for responding!

RE: #2 - I noticed the two tricks to switch A/S/ISO but wish there's a better way - As you said in Canon LV, there are two green triangles indicate whether I'm assigning setting to Aperture or Shutter when rolling the dial. But in ML LV, I have to guess and there is a slight delay when dialing - it really slow down the entire process. I could have done this in Canon LV but I would miss the Focus Peak badly. As far as ISO via the trash can - I have done it but it apply a full stop of ISO (eg. from 400-800) vs in ML, it goes 1/3 of a stop like 400>500>640>800.

One new issue I noticed is the White Balance in ML, say I was on AWB, when I go into ML manual and switch it to custom, I'm stuck with custom kal number. There isn't any way for me to switch back to AWB or Custom Presets. So I have to go into Canon LV again to do the adjustment, kind of a pain.

Anyway, I'm still very happy with ML for EOS-M. I look forward to having these fixed in future release. Thank you!
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: a1ex on September 04, 2014, 02:31:59 PM
Has any one used post deflicker module with xmp successfully?
I installed the latest nightly build (magiclantern-Nightly.2014Aug20.EOSM202.zip) and followed the instruction mentioned in this thread: http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5705.0 (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5705.0).
There were no .xmp files generated along the .cr2 files.

Are the other tools working in QuickReview mode (after taking a picture)? For example, the RAW overlays (they should work not just in LiveView, but also on the review screen).
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: dpjpandone on September 06, 2014, 06:39:56 AM
I hope I get a pass if these has been asked before because I did search for "EOSM Continuous" and did not get my answer:

The chart says raw can only be shot while recording h264 simultaneously, is this still true?

What is the max resolution that you can shoot RAW continuously on EOSM?

I am shooting most raw projects at 2.35:1 aspect ratio, what is the max resolution at this aspect?

What is the workflow like for shooting raw with sound? Do you just use the audio from the h264 file?

Thanks for answering these questions, I am considering picking up an EOSM for helicopter shots, and if I do. I will be glad to contribute what I can in helping with development for this body as well.
Title: Re: EOSM-Updated ML for 2.02 firmware
Post by: mdwhaley on September 06, 2014, 02:38:15 PM
I hope I get a pass if these has been asked before because I did search for "EOSM Continuous" and did not get my answer:

The chart says raw can only be shot while recording h264 simultaneously, is this still true?

 I don't think so, I don't know that has ever been possible.

What is the max resolution that you can shoot RAW continuously on EOSM?

  next question

I am shooting most raw projects at 2.35:1 aspect ratio, what is the max resolution at this aspect?

   1504x456 is what I can get at that aspect ration on a Sandisk Extreme 45MB/sec SD card

What is the workflow like for shooting raw with sound? Do you just use the audio from the h264 file?

  Use mlv raw format with sound

Thanks for answering these questions, I am considering picking up an EOSM for helicopter shots, and if I do. I will be glad to contribute what I can in helping with development for this body as well.

  Cool. IMO the M sucks for Raw. Aside from the card speed limitations there are post production considerations such as pink dots that need removed and the image needs stretched. Magic Lantern on the EOS M really helps the camera from a usability standpoint though  :D

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: timmorn on September 09, 2014, 10:27:31 AM
Perhaps someone here can help me? I installed magiclantern-Nightly.2014Sep01.EOSM202 on my EOS M (2.0.2) mainly for Intervalometer shooting. But it don't works. If I am able to start the Intervalometer, I have no chance to stop it. I tried all buttons (I think the review button should do the trick?) The only chance was to put battery out. Also when I turned off and on again it started again. Sometimes it stopped, but then all freezed. The greatest problem: Also in normal mode I am sometimes not able to make a photo. Fokus is working, but when I press the button down no photo is taken. I formated, turned several times on and off and suddenly it works and then again the same problem.

And now the biggest problem: Because of this I tried to remove ML. But when I go to "format card" there is written "format card, keep ML [Tap Screen]". But when I Tap Screen noting happens. So, my most important question: How to remove ML? :-/

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on September 10, 2014, 06:48:22 PM
You may want to read the first post of this thread ...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: timmorn on September 10, 2014, 08:35:31 PM
Thank you for your answer, but this also didn't work. In the starting post I read:
Quote
Uninstallation:
1) Run Firmware Update from your ML card.
2) Follow the instructions.
So I went in the menu to "Firmware-Ver.: 2.0.2" (the same option I used for installation), but it claimed that a firmware is needed on the card for update.

Did I something wrong?

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on September 10, 2014, 08:40:20 PM
Yes, you have to follow instructions found on page 1. From start!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: timmorn on September 10, 2014, 11:01:31 PM
Ok, I put ML back onto the SD card and then it worked. Thank you!

To the other point: Had someone else the bug that he was not able to take a photo? A little strange was that it still was the case when I removed ML. Now I formatted the SD card and in the moment it is working. Could it be that ML damaged something on my camera?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: funkysound on September 11, 2014, 09:58:38 AM
"Had someone else the bug that he was not able to take a photo?"

Yes - we call it shutter bug here.
Sorry that nobody answered till now but I think everybody got tired to explaine everybody new here in this forum what is going on with it.
Just put the lens of while the m is on and it will work again after putting the lens on again.
Just search for shutter bug and you will find more answers ...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: tweak on September 11, 2014, 10:39:36 PM
^Just read any of the 16 pages of this thread and it would tell you that...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: $167 on September 11, 2014, 11:15:33 PM
^Just read any of the 16 pages of this thread and it would tell you that...

I don't blame the new users, The first time I came here I read the entire discussion, going thru lots of issues that had nothing to do with what I'm trying to do. All that just to find out one specific feature isn't available. Now we have 16 pages of threads (40 pages in tapatalk). I think it would be helpful to create a FAQ page for EOS-M. It would save everyone's time not having to read from scratch...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Audionut on September 11, 2014, 11:49:48 PM
Ideally, someone who owns the camera, and is aware of its specifics (bugs/features), could compile a post with that information.  I can sticky it and link it in other stickies, or add it to the first post.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on September 12, 2014, 07:36:00 AM
can someone please explain the eos m raw aspect ratio to me? If I am reading correctly, shooting full frame requires stretching in post, but shooting in 3x crop mode does not? I am used to the 50D, 7D where you have to stretch if shooting 1280 60p (canon Q) but shooting 1920 (1728) doesn't require stretching....

What is different? Is it not possible to shoot in 1920 24p and select a smaller resolution like I am used to?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: tweak on September 12, 2014, 02:30:11 PM
Well since the shutter bug is mentioned on almost every single page of the 16 page thread most people mustn't have looked too hard to find an answer  ;). A sticky at the top would be the smartest thing, something like this that could be added to the top of the page. VVV

Sticky:
Shutter Bug: Most prevalent with 18-55 EFM lens. Fix - half take lens off and put it back on again.
Menu disappearing: Menu only stays open for about 3 seconds. Fix - there isn't one.
Opening Menu: Either two finger tap the screen or hold down the trash can button for 3 seconds.
Cycle between menus: For different menu views press the "menu" button after two finger tapping or holding the trash can button down.
Movie stopped recording: Likely that there's too much info to record. Fix - lower Q-scale or CBR (if enabled) for more complex scenes.


@dpjapandone - you should be able to select any resolution and frame rate you like in the ML menu. I only ever shoot in 3x crop mode so I'm not sure that the full sensor mode even works properly on the M (anyone know???). You can only shoot up to a certain resolution depending upon what aspect ratio you have selected, the ML menu will give you the information as to what resolution is possible with what aspect ratio to be able to keep continuously recording.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: hudwa on September 12, 2014, 06:47:17 PM
I've just loaded magiclantern-Nightly.2014Sep12.EOSM202 and cannot figure out how to enable VBR. I noticed very early in the thread someone mention shooting RAW using VBR, but have not heard anyone mention it since, nor have I been able to get VBR to work with either of the last two nightly builds. Also can't find any info or documentation on VBR for the EOSM anywhere on the wiki, nightly build site or FAQ. Any help is much appreciated.

UPDATE:

As in subsequent comments, figured out that touching the screen acts as pressing Q, allowing me to open submenus, thus allowing me to enable VBR.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on September 12, 2014, 07:20:10 PM
I figured it out, it seems full frame live view is always 720p so it behaves the same as other cams do when canon Q menu is set to 720p, therefore very crappy quality with heavy aliasing... it's a damn shame.

So what lenses are you guys using with this camera in crop mode? anyone experimenting with c-mount or other small format lenses? Any reccomendations?

Also, is there a list somewhere of the changes that need to be backported from One Percent's branch? I was thinking I could help with that. Or is the eosm pretty much up to date?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: $167 on September 13, 2014, 02:01:57 AM
Well since the shutter bug is mentioned on almost every single page of the 16 page thread most people mustn't have looked too hard to find an answer  ;). A sticky at the top would be the smartest thing, something like this that could be added to the top of the page. VVV

Sticky:
Shutter Bug: Most prevalent with 18-55 EFM lens. Fix - half take lens off and put it back on again.
Menu disappearing: Menu only stays open for about 3 seconds. Fix - there isn't one.
Opening Menu: Either two finger tap the screen or hold down the trash can button for 3 seconds.
Cycle between menus: For different menu views press the "menu" button after two finger tapping or holding the trash can button down.
Movie stopped recording: Likely that there's too much info to record. Fix - lower Q-scale or CBR (if enabled) for more complex scenes.

Good idea, tweak - Admin, pls put this up.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on September 13, 2014, 06:44:23 PM
OK, it seems you can enter ML menu with long press trash, (thank god, otherwise impossible to navigate ML menu with ext. monitor attached)

but how to fake Q? any alternate method? Any hints on how to implement?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: mbarrett5076 on September 14, 2014, 04:17:23 PM
I had the same problem until I remembered the M is a touch screen.   I think this is the question of how to get into the "Q" to change the settings within a ML feature???

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on September 14, 2014, 11:17:05 PM
yeah, I'm working on getting the play button to act as Q when ml menu is open, does anyone disagree?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: hudwa on September 15, 2014, 06:06:32 AM
Quote
yeah, I'm working on getting the play button to act as Q when ml menu is open, does anyone disagree?

Agreed. I also just realized that I could touch the screen in place of pressing Q. Found out how to enable VBR and a bunch of other functions that I couldn't find before. Feel a little silly now...

The touch function is great, but the menus in ML are, by neccessity, pretty cramped and I often touch the wrong item. This is not a critical problem, but it is an annoyance. If the ML menu could become more touch friendly overall, perhaps icon-based a la iOS, that would be great. That is a big job, so rather than reinventing the wheel (since the ML menu is already very well designed for use with physical buttons) I think that having the play button act as Q in the ML menu would be a good idea.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on September 18, 2014, 02:58:52 AM
Just got the EOS-M and as soon as I got home... ML was installed. All went well and so far I'm loving all the features regardless of its minimal flaws!

Love the two-finger tap to get into the ML menu...

I'll be on the lookout for updates.

*cheers*
Title: Canon EOS M Focus tools
Post by: Kevin Sharp on September 18, 2014, 03:27:37 AM
I'm brand new to the group, I have installed ML on my EOS M and am really keen to use the rack focus tool for macro photography stacked images. I can see that the nightly build has the Brack script included, which works so well with my Canon SX50HS CHDK build.
Does anyone know if this is a working feature on EOS M 202 ML build? If so, how do you get to it?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: brianca on September 20, 2014, 09:10:58 AM
Hey guys,

Just got my EOS M and installed ML on it.  I was hoping to use the audio features, but I see from this thread that they aren't available on the EOS M.

Two questions:

1) Are they impossible for this model and not to be expected eventually?
2) I've seen some comments about audio levels during recording which is one of the main things I want.  Should that be there?  The other nice to have would be the headphone monitors, so really curious if that one is possible and maybe coming later or if it's just off the table.

thanks!

b.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on September 20, 2014, 06:22:41 PM
as far as I know... I noticed the audio meters are working actively. You just have to remember to turn off MLV audio after you are done recording in either RAW or MLV otherwise once you record it in h.264 without disabling the MLV Audio first...You won't get any audio as it has been mentioned in this forums as well!

It's a bit tricky but there are ways to work around it...

as long as you enjoy troubleshooting like 90% of us users are?

SJ
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Canon eos m on September 21, 2014, 07:37:05 AM
Just dropped and damaged my EoS M. Can you propose a replacement model that works well with ML. Already have a Canon 5d3. But looking for a smaller ML capable camera. Sorry if this is off topic.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on September 21, 2014, 09:26:22 PM
if you don't need high raw resolutions, I would recommend the t3i (600D) it's one of the only cameras that let's you over crank to 36fps in 1080p and it has support for pretty much every feature in ML. if you require a fast cardbus go with t4i or t5i
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Steve_Brule on September 21, 2014, 11:01:25 PM
I get exposure flashes (short duration brightening), every time I zoom with the 11-22 STM lens, and whenever I focus with the Canon 28 f/2.8 IS. This makes ML unusable with these lenses.
Anyone else have this problem?
Also the magic focus box flickers so much during record that it's unusable.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Steve_Brule on September 21, 2014, 11:03:31 PM
Canon eos m .... get a T3i ... cheap and works with the stable release
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on September 22, 2014, 08:42:22 PM
re: exposure shift:

check custom settings in canon menu -> change ae/af lock till u get the desired result
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: amethyst on September 23, 2014, 07:07:18 AM
Need help.
How to access ML menu and Q without double tap and tap screen?
Because I use my M with external monitor, when monitor connect the tap screen will disabled.
How to use Delete button to access ML menu like other camera?
Thanks for support.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: mdwhaley on September 23, 2014, 03:13:04 PM
Hold the trash can button
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on September 23, 2014, 06:41:21 PM
currently no way to acces q from button, - working on it
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on September 25, 2014, 03:12:15 AM
Quote
Reply #364 on: August 22, 2014, 05:16:25 PM »



Maybe I'm an idiot and never realised, but I have some interesting info in regards to the focus box while using crop mode as I always assumed it didn't work...

I found that the focus box does actually work in crop mode as long as you make sure the focus box is positioned in the top of the screen (top left) and I usually set pixel size at 2:1 for best results.

It works in small medium or large box size, but the small window looks the least glitchy. The bigger sizes will have some flicker, but on my camera are still totally useable to judge focus.

If this has been discussed already I apologise, but I don't remember reading it here, hopefully it helps others like me.

this is not my experience, no matter what I do, magic zoom is unusable in crop mode. I done exactly what you described and it's still all chopped up, are you sure you weren't in full frame and just thought you were in crop mode? I have noticed that framerate has an effect on this as well, in FF mode eosm idles at 30p, then changes to 24p during record and magic zoom glitches out again....
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: MiguelATF on September 25, 2014, 08:20:28 PM
Probably a stupid question from a new forum member - and new EOS-M owner.  I went to the Magic Lantern Downloads page - and saw that the current stable release of ML (V 2.3) supports a number of different cameras - BUT NOT THE EOS-M.

So which release or releases of ML do or will support the EOS-M?  Do I have to access a "nightly-build" download?  Or what?

Like I said, it's probably a stupid question.  But I searched the forum and couldn't find an answer - so I'm posting it here.  Hope someone can clear this up for me - THANKS!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: walter_schulz on September 25, 2014, 08:29:07 PM
First post of this thread ...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Visir on September 26, 2014, 11:40:52 PM
I tried 2.0.2 version.
Too many bugs. Can't take pictures, everything is blocked, unless you switch off the camera and switch it on again.
Something happens in the first part of the code that is conflicting with commands.
If you insert battery, the camera will light up the green orage led, for a few seconds even if you do not switch it on.
This means that some sort of command, once the battery is in the camera, reads the card, or at least a part of the code.
you will have to switch it off and on again to be operative. It will take only a few seconds to enable the M to work again,  and I believe that the ram, by doing this, and the bug itself, are renewed, and the mistake put aside.

There must be a bug in the first lines f the program, conflicting with some instruction that follows.
If your M's led lights on when you insert a battery with magic lantern card inserted in it, who is ordering M  to read the starting script?

I am just trying to understand what is happening. Could you find out please?
Thank you.
 
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Visir on September 26, 2014, 11:56:49 PM
Could anyone stop my shirt by taking pictures by itself when I am wearing my M on my tommy?
there must be some kind of tap 3 times system, to activate or deactivate the touch screen.... please could you add this function? Concerning canon's hdr idea, i guess they did not want to make a good one, and just offered a minimal one.
I hope tha ML will solve the problem. STACKING, BRAKETING AND MERGIN ALL TOGETHER THE SHOTS. And offering a control of the levels aswell, so that we could see immediately the resulting picture. I'm just starting to appreciate ML on this camera, but it still lacks some functions that I would like it to perform. I used to load scripts, to enable these functions, and so, if anyone knows where to find them, I would be glad to test them and to work on them. I hope I have been able to express the concept in a proper way. Bracketing, 3 pictures, stacking them, and merging the job. Real hdr, with values that can be programmed in advance. Like styles. HDR1 HDR2 HDR3 Thakn you very much.
 
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: burninbluesky on September 27, 2014, 04:38:39 AM
Guys need some help , after installing the latest batch. My EOS-m no longer works. The power button just blinks green real fast.
Any ideas
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on September 27, 2014, 09:07:19 AM
I tried 2.0.2 version.
Too many bugs. Can't take pictures, everything is blocked, unless you switch off the camera and switch it on again.
 

shutterbug, known issue. read thread for workarounds

If you insert battery, the camera will light up the green orage led, for a few seconds even if you do not switch it on.
 

Is this a problem? is this different from default behavior?

Could anyone stop my shirt by taking pictures by itself when I am wearing my M on my tommy?
there must be some kind of tap 3 times system, to activate or deactivate the touch screen.... please could you add this function?

turn off "tap shutter" so that you can only take a picture with the shutter button (you prob have it set to take a pic when you touch the screen) Also check the sensitivity setting in canon menu
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Visir on September 30, 2014, 02:36:16 PM
Thanks.
Shutterbug. Ok.
Switch it on and off twice. Second time it works.
False instruction handled in the starting script.
Default movie mode.
It will not take pictures but only video with this version of ML if you do not switch the camera off and on again.
The bug is there. Change default video mode command to picture. Thanks.

What does the letter M stand for?
Let me guess....
- "M" stands for the last letter of the word ".....mmmmm,  ??? " ( thinking about taking a picture ). ( Thought ). Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ck.  Oh gosh!!! :-X

I love innovation. I did not expect them to add Panda Mode.  :o

The best ever camera for stills. Dead or alive.

Now you know. Just take your time for the time being .... till the next update".

It's a software problem.

I guess the third model they will call it "Zzzzzzzzzzz"   8)

I just bought a second one. I feel so Zen now. I can take a picture with my second one whilst my first one is thinking about it!

Wise choice!

I think that they are testing us to see if we are able to solve the "M's" problem.

............... 3
............... 2
............... 1

Which one?

Slow motion i guess.

 ;D

The right camera for nervous photographers!

 :P

 :o 8) :-[ ::) :-* :'( >:( ;D ;) :) ;)

We are all waiting for a brand new firmware!!!!!

  8) :P :P ::) :-X :-\ :'( :-* ??? ::)

So when do you think they will discontinue "M"?
- "Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.... "
-  Don't tell me you really believe they are still thinking about it!!!!!!

They sold us the whole lot!!!  :-[ :P
- Just in time.  :D
- I believe so.

What a bargain!!!!
- Ok stop it. It looked like a camera.
Didn't you read the specs?
- Too tiny.....
- Mmmmmmmmmm
 :P

Cheers!!!!  :D
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: vertigopix on September 30, 2014, 03:15:24 PM
Who should use nightly builds?

- Anyone who likes to live on the bleeding edge, wants to help ML development, and doesn't care about some features being broken.


...and anyone who have read, read and read the Canon manual...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: carlalex on September 30, 2014, 05:28:33 PM
Has anyone tried this on an imported EOS M2?  I picked one up.  Happy with it so far (*such* an upgrade from my 2008 450d), but with no jack for my intervalometer, long exposures and time lapse are a pain.

Thanks!

   --- Carl

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: tweak on October 01, 2014, 05:49:11 PM
Why would anyone choose a T3i, 600D etc over the M for a cheap ML soloution??? Am I missing something here? The M does everything I need and more with ML and I rarely have a problem with it. Not to mention Raw on the M is better than others in it's class and price range.

Also I'm pretty suprised by the amount of people that ask questions on here that have absolutely nothing to do with ML... for gods sake read the manual or do a bit of research first!  :D

REAL question - Does anyone else have a problem with the "Greyscale" live view when shooting RAW??? All the other options work for me (Hacked, No live view etc) but Greyscale doesn't seem to. The framing when shooting RAW on my M is a bit off and I assume if you can shoot with the Greyscale function it will be more correct?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on October 03, 2014, 02:26:18 AM
Why would anyone choose a T3i, 600D etc over the M for a cheap ML soloution??? Am I missing something here? The M does everything I need and more with ML and I rarely have a problem with it. Not to mention Raw on the M is better than others in it's class and price range.

because pink dots are a pain to remove in post, sound only works for one take and then you have to reboot the camera, no headphone output, no tethered (tablet) control, and it's not very ergonomic.... these are some of the reasons to choose a t2i/t3i

Also I'm pretty suprised by the amount of people that ask questions on here that have absolutely nothing to do with ML... for gods sake read the manual or do a bit of research first!  :D

Just like the posts you are criticizing, the above adds absolutely nothing to the conversation either....

REAL question - Does anyone else have a problem with the "Greyscale" live view when shooting RAW??? All the other options work for me (Hacked, No live view etc) but Greyscale doesn't seem to. The framing when shooting RAW on my M is a bit off and I assume if you can shoot with the Greyscale function it will be more correct?

Greyscale preview has not been implemented on the M, either it hasn't been found, or doesn't exist in the M's firmware. The menu entry is still there to keep the code cleaner since it is ported from other cameras.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: fufuheo on October 08, 2014, 07:57:34 PM
I may have found a fix for the shutterbug (not sure).
The shutter bug always occurred when using the EF-M 18-55 IS STM lens.
I changed the Custom Function "Release shutter without lens" to "Enable", restarted the camera and the shutter bug was gone.
Since then I have not been able to replicate the shutter bug (not even by changing the setting to "Disable").
It worked for me. I am using the sept 27 nightly build.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: danieldenhaag on October 08, 2014, 09:51:16 PM
would headphone monitoring work with a cable like this http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/765530-REG/Sescom_DSLR_550D_HOCF_DSLR_550D_HOCF_AV_Out_Headphone.html? if not will headphone monitoring ever exist for the eos m?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: fufuheo on October 09, 2014, 07:55:48 AM
It does not work now and I don't know if it ever will.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: tweak on October 14, 2014, 09:06:16 PM
because pink dots are a pain to remove in post, sound only works for one take and then you have to reboot the camera, no headphone output, no tethered (tablet) control, and it's not very ergonomic.... these are some of the reasons to choose a t2i/t3i

Just like the posts you are criticizing, the above adds absolutely nothing to the conversation either....

Greyscale preview has not been implemented on the M, either it hasn't been found, or doesn't exist in the M's firmware. The menu entry is still there to keep the code cleaner since it is ported from other cameras.

Pink dots are easy to remove once you have the workflow. Sound works almost every take for me, I don't have a problem with that. Headphone output isn't an issue if you have a monitor or shoot without sound (as a lot buying do). Do a lot of people need a tablet connected? Kind of defeats having a small package camera no? Ergonomics aren't that great I guess, but on the other hand it's great to have a small camera to easily take places. The resolution for M in RAW is still better than the others (regardless of the cons) in it's price range, so I don't think you can really compare them. Also ability to use C-mount lenses and the like in crop mode for RAW is a feature that the others can't even touch...

If it at least drives one person to read the manual before asking irrelevant questions I think it has.

Sucks there's no Greyscale option, maybe one day... I've been messing around about and starting to understand better where it's framed.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: SubOrbit on October 20, 2014, 03:41:43 PM
Hey guys!

Does anybody know if it is possible to sense 5V input on the USB port with ML? I am asking because with CHDK, it is possible to trigger the shutter by putting 5V to the USB connector (plugging in a USB cable) and with a remote shutter port missing on the eosM, this could be a perfect remote shutter mechanism, while still retaining a free mic-input port for those who need it (avoiding solution described here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11930.0).

The CHDK mechanism is described here: http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/USB_Remote
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Canon eos m on October 26, 2014, 11:45:50 AM
Hi,

Coming back to the EOSM after a long time since the camera right dial push doesn't work anymore after the camera fell from my hands.

Must say that the overall ML experience has greatly improved with lot lesser bugs. The pink dots on RAW / MLV recording are still a pain workflow-wise. But otherwise awesome.

Build: 8 October 2014.

Thank you all developers for keeping the development going.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Canon eos m on October 26, 2014, 11:46:54 AM
Another thing. I want to shoot S3D using 2 EOSM's. Anyone know if the best way to sync the cameras - ML way or non-ML way?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Ernani on October 27, 2014, 05:07:24 PM
hi all, new to the forum. been using ML for a week now and I can't imagine how lame the eos m (or any other eos for that matter) would be without it. once you use it you can't go back. for the past week i've been browsing through the forum and slowly understanding all the features and workarounds in ML for this camera. I got to say the raw video is is simply a joy, filming in mlv and removing the pink dots with mlvMystic gives marvelous results, even if only at 720p 24fps (I wouldn't do 1080p anyways due to its insanely high data consumption).
anyways, one thing I couldn't find is how users of this camera can transfer mlv files to computer; when I plug the camera to pc via usb, all the files I can see are JPGs and MOVs. to access files of different extensions I must remove the sd card use a card reader, only then I can find all the existing files in that card. Since I'm is test mode, the process of removing the card repeats numerous times during a day, so wear becomes an issue.

well, thanks Magic Lantern and all its developers and enthusiasts. hope I can contribute with something nice soon.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 27, 2014, 05:28:17 PM
SD-cards and slots are specified for 10,000 "mating" cycles.
Do the math ...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Ernani on October 28, 2014, 01:45:57 AM
SD-cards and slots are specified for 10,000 "mating" cycles.
Do the math ...
was that referring to my post?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Ernani on October 28, 2014, 11:39:48 PM
well, seems canon won't let any file other than jpg and mov to be sent to pc via camera usb. why? one can only guess. I'll stick to using the card reader...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Bagpuss on October 29, 2014, 12:46:19 PM
Quote
I may have found a fix for the shutterbug (not sure).
The shutter bug always occurred when using the EF-M 18-55 IS STM lens.
I changed the Custom Function "Release shutter without lens" to "Enable", restarted the camera and the shutter bug was gone.
Since then I have not been able to replicate the shutter bug (not even by changing the setting to "Disable").
It worked for me. I am using the sept 27 nightly build.

Tried this, but it didn't make any difference on my camera.
Tried the nightly build that you are using, and also the latest nightly (8th October).

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: illplanet on October 29, 2014, 10:27:51 PM
Hi everyone,

First my apologies for posting this here again, but I guess this a better place in the forum for my question as it is specific for the EOS M:

I'm running magiclantern-Nightly.2014Oct08.EOSM202 on my EOS M.
The ML screen displays a framerate of 29.973 although the framerate is set to another value (eg. 24 fps or 60fps). Tried it with both PAL and NTSC settings. FPS ovverride is not activated.
When I'm recording, the files are recorderd with the fps set in the main menu.
However those false fps rate detected by ML seems to affect the availabe settings for recording raw video as it always relates to those 29.973 fps.

Anyone else experiencing this issue?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: vertigopix on October 30, 2014, 07:56:49 AM
I think that this indication is related to the LV framerate, not the recording framerate.
When you start recording you can see the "real" framerate upper right.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: illplanet on October 30, 2014, 07:27:16 PM
No, the displayed framerate does not change. When selecting the resolution all available options relate to those 29 fps.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on November 05, 2014, 08:46:21 PM
fps override? like it was said before, the display is always 29.97
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: vertigopix on November 06, 2014, 07:33:29 AM
Upper right, under the red "rec" dot, not the "big" fps numbers.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Ernani on November 07, 2014, 03:27:27 AM
did anybody try the intervalometer in conjunction with silent picture mode?
it would be a treasure for time lapse since there's no shutter activation and pics come in raw but for some reason my eos-m stopped after a random number (sometimes 40, other times 10 or 11)of photos were taken. will try some other settings and let y'all know in case I can solve it.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: julius on November 07, 2014, 04:15:27 PM
About the eos M shutter bug: is there any problems with manual lenses? What i understood its only with eos m kit lenses.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Jaco2k on November 08, 2014, 12:21:02 AM
Just a preliminary note - I managed to solve the shutter bug with a new card and a new install. I still need to investigate the root cause but I have a good idea about a process to fix this.

Here is what I did:
- I had a 64GB card (Transcend) in my camera that was affected by this bug
- I got a new 64 GB card (Kingston) and DID NOT prepare it at all in anyway
- I downloaded the Original Canon 2.02 Firmware update and put it on the new card - NOTE: I tried to power cycle camera and the shutter was working, as expected, when the card with ML was removed
- I inserted the new card in the Camera and reflashed the original 2.02 Firmware (Shutter still worked after power cycling camera)
- I downloaded the latest nightly (8.11.2014 at the time of writing) and dropped it into the new card
- I inserted the card again in the camera (I used a memory card reader for all the operations; shutter was still working) and repeated the firmware update process to install ML
- ML installed successfully and told me to power cycle the camera (I did not mess with the boot settings - just told it to reboot camera)
- Camera rebooted and.... SHUTTER WAS WORKING!!!

I could not believe it, so I cycled it a few times more and it was still working. Inserting the old card back would immediately reproduce the bug but with the new card, working fine.

I followed to the letter the official instructions to update firmware from the Canon site (P mode, etc.)

Next up I am going to format the old car, actually, even wipe all the partitions, format it similar to the new card and going to try and reproduce the "fix" on it
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: funkysound on November 09, 2014, 01:18:00 PM
Hi Jaco2k this sounds interesting to me.
But ... Question: Is someone out there still working on ML or are all gone to Apertus?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: jeredmckenna on November 12, 2014, 03:12:45 PM
Hi!...my first post here. I have the Oct 8th Build for EOS m...

the zebras stop functioning in video mode when I use Magic Lantern to set my ISO to any non-standard number, like 160, etc. If I set my ISO to 100, 200, etc, the zebras return.

Also, I see no way of zooming in whilst in movie mode (not recording) other than the magic zoom box feature. any ideas on this? I love having that full screen zoom before I record. (or snap a shot!)

also, the magic lantern menu dissapears after 5 seconds of idle. not cool!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: fufuheo on November 13, 2014, 03:50:05 PM
Quote
I see no way of zooming in whilst in movie mode
Prefs>LiveView zoom tweaks>Zoom on HalfShutter>
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: jeredmckenna on November 15, 2014, 05:54:39 AM
hey thanks man! so cool!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: markymark on November 16, 2014, 11:20:43 AM
Just a quick question I have just brought a EOS M and wanted to know if the ML firmware is installed into the camera or does it run of the sd card.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 16, 2014, 11:42:22 AM
Look at the picture in the first post of this thread.
There are 3 requirements:
- Camera bootflag set. This one is indeed located in the cam. Has to be done once.
- Bootable card. Each and every card you want to run ML from has to be enabled.
- ML files on card: Autoexec.bin (= ML "firmware") + ML directory (modules, settings and other stuff).
For installation you need a ML FIR file, too.

Cam with bootflag set will look for a bootable card. If found it will load Autoexec.bin and run ML as a task. Very much like a program loaded at startup in your computer.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: markymark on November 16, 2014, 12:29:37 PM
Thanks for the info, so if there is no ML software on the sd card it will use the Canon firmware ?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 16, 2014, 12:47:13 PM
It will always use Canon's firmware because ML is not firmware but a task running on Canon's firmware (= OS). And of course ML won't run if no bootable card is there.
Top of page -> User Guide -> FAQ
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: markymark on November 16, 2014, 01:26:00 PM
Once again thanks for the info :)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: jeredmckenna on November 30, 2014, 06:49:54 PM
UPDATE on "Zebras not working at non-native ISO numbers"

This, for some reason, is no longer and issue on my camera. I posted earlier that zebras were not working, but they are now. So, ignore that earlier post (which you probably already have :) 

UPDATE 1 - 19 - 2015

Well, again, the Zebras, when using non native ISO numbers, no longer show up. I don't know why it worked for a time. But now the Zebras disappear when I use 320, 640, 1250, etc. When I use 100, 200, etc, the Zebras show back up. The Zebras always disappear when I am actively in the ML menu, but this has been expected.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: feureau on December 04, 2014, 09:38:03 AM
So, anyway, I got an EOS-M that's still factory default, with no bootflag and doesn't use ML. One day it just crashed while I was shooting, and when I turned it on again, if I use the green A auto mode, the frame would be in 1:1 cropped mode. There's no way to return this to regular 3:2 mode even after resetting to factory default, so now one of my EOS-M is stuck in 1:1 when in Auto mode. Not that I complain. *shrugs*

I just want to put this out there in case someone experience the same thing. Changing crop mode would be a nice thing to have in ML though.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: EVVK on December 04, 2014, 10:24:30 PM
feureau, if factory reset doesn't work. Try re-flashing the official firmware update (again) even if you already are on that version.

http://www.canon-europe.com/Support/Consumer_Products/products/cameras/Digital_SLR/EOS_M.aspx?type=firmware
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: slvrscoobie on December 09, 2014, 04:50:15 PM
So i just received 2 Sandisk Extreme 32gb SDHC cards from BB- First thing I did was load ML onto them, and 2 EOS M's (one visible, one IR) have been working without the shutter bug on the 11-22 and 18-55.
interesting...
However, I think I did something similar to the Samsung 64gb card I got a when they were on sale, and it worked for a while, and then I did something to it and now it doesnt...
wonder if its a matter of location on the SD Card or something.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: KirstChat on December 22, 2014, 11:45:06 AM
Just installed the latest EOS-M nightly build but the menu doesn't appear when I tap two fingers on the screen, just the ML info screen. Anyone else had this problem?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: 2blackbar on December 22, 2014, 05:58:28 PM
we all had it, just press SET button  ;)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: eos450d on December 26, 2014, 08:25:53 AM
does focus trap work with EOS M?
Is there an overview which functions works on every modell?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: walter_schulz on December 26, 2014, 09:27:03 AM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11108.msg107864#msg107864
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Marcandsebe on January 04, 2015, 03:40:30 PM
I have the Eos M2 and firmware version is 1.0.2. I don't surpose Magic Lantern will work with it.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 04, 2015, 09:16:27 PM
@Marcandsebe -- do a simple upgrade from a Canon's site to get the latest firmware (2.0.2) from here... http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer/eos_slr_camera_systems/eos_digital_slr_cameras/eos_m_ef_m_22mm_stm_kit?WT.mc_id=C126149#DriversAndSoftware

and then install nightly for EOS-M from here... http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dmilligan on January 05, 2015, 02:11:47 AM
EOS M2 is an entirely different camera. You will not be able to run ML on it until someone ports it.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 05, 2015, 06:02:40 AM
Didn't see you wrote down Eos-m2 til just now... My apologies on that typo!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: vaclav on January 11, 2015, 09:31:25 PM
Hello, could you help me with problem with Advanced bracketing on EOS M?
In Av mode: Bracketing type: exposure, frames: 2 , increment: 1EV, sequence: for example 0 - --, ISO shifting: OFF, Post scripts: OFF
First couple of bracketed pictures is ussually good, from second picture starts unforeseen behavior: burst of pictures - sometimes incrementaly bracketed (for example: first -1EV, second -2EV, third -3EV and so on, and so on...), sometimes with standard exposure. Number of pictures seems to be random (five or more). After burst of bracketed pictures, exposure compensation stays with last values (for example -5EV). I can'n find any way to use advanced bracketing in Av mode.

Other settings: RAW, WB: K, No AutoISO, no intervalometer, no motion detection, no Auto Lighting Optimizer, ML: nightly 2015Jan03 EOSM202 (older builds with the same problems)
In M mode, everything is O.K.

I tried the same settings with 5D III and there is no problem, everything is O.K. in M and Av mode as well (I was testing ML on theese cameras for first time in last several days).

Many thanks to developers an ML community for amazing work!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Studio79 on January 12, 2015, 12:52:17 AM
Hey Everyone, I'm planning on using my Canon M for remote purposes during certain sporting events. I want to use the M because it's smaller than my 7D and can fit in tighter spaces. The issue, of course, is remote firing. I use Pocket Wizards Plus X. I downloaded the latest ML build and it doesn't seem to have the "sound trigger" feature. Any idea which update had it last??
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 12, 2015, 01:17:41 AM
Not available for EOS M:
https://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/features
Shoot -> Audio_remote_shot
Title: Re: Canon EOS M - Bit Rate difference
Post by: volvic53 on January 13, 2015, 11:26:10 AM
Hi all

Firstly many thanks to all the developers for the eos-m software which is installed and working in my camera. I am an experienced film cameraman since the 70's but relatively new to the digital technology, hence need the help of you "young-guns" with some questions.

I have carried out quite a few experiments regarding the bit-rate settings. I have shot static shots as well as repeatable pan & tilt sequences on both static and moving subjects. I have repeated each test on 1x (default) 2x and 3x bit rates to examine the difference. Problem I have is that visually I can see no difference at all between 1x, 2x, 3x bit rates even though I can see the overall bit rate chance from 43.9 to 61.3 (which in fact does not go above 61.3Mbps regardless of setting). On 1x the average bit rate is 43.9, this increases to 61.3 at 2x setting but will not go above that at any setting above 2x (in fact it's about 1.8x).

Visual checks were done on various platforms including Premier Pro, VLC etc (including magnified modes) as well as HD Panasonic 50" monitor and MediaInfo for digital information. I have checked to make sure settings work and if bit rate is reduced (say 0.6x) the picture obviously degrades. All tests were done in same lighting/asa/speed conditions  (100asa 1/50th 25fps 6400degK) with 50mm prime Nikkor AI lens and 95MB/s ExtremePro SD card.

I would appreciate it if anyone can tell me if they can see definite change in quality in any setting above 1x (default) and if so, which area(s) they see the improvements? I might be missing something? No age jokes please as yes I have new glasses, can see and got few younger friends to double check the visual tests lol!.

Many thanks in advance and best regards to all...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: 2blackbar on January 13, 2015, 05:34:57 PM
I came to the same conclusion , there is no difference between 1x and 2x but there is huge difference between 0.9x and 1x.
Maybe there is some more detail with a lot of movement but its really not that visible to justify bigger files so its just better to leave it at default.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: volvic53 on January 15, 2015, 03:54:54 PM
Many thanks "2blackbar" good to know we weren't imagining it :-) Likewise, will keep to default and save space on storage.
Title: Canon EOS M - Bit Rate difference - CBR settings
Post by: RavingRover on January 18, 2015, 11:35:24 PM
magiclantern-Nightly.2015Jan15.EOSM202

Saw the posts about CBR and this must be a build issue. I certainly was seeing up to 235mbps bit rates for 2kHD using a TragicLantern load a while back. I recently did some video w/ latest ML, set to 2.5CBR, and the resulting vids were peaking at 114mbps rates, some at same setting only show around 99mbps.

Just performed a 2.9CBR vid out the window and it shows - peaks to 155mbps, mostly 135mbps peaks. I then upped it to 3.0CBR and got - crash/stop - 4-5 secs only - peak around 160mps!

I loaded in the 'last' TL build - tragiclantern-v31337.TRAGIC.2014Dec19.EOSM202 - at 3.5CBR it crashed - <10secs only (saw a peak of 168mbps), went down to 3.2CBR and got peaks of 133mpbs.

Put in my old TL load (used for audio remote trigger) which I believe was where I saw 235mbps peaks and - only saw 150mbps peaks - and 3.5CBR crashed after 10 secs, whereas 3.2 worked fine - about 133mbps.

So either I am GREATLY MISremembering getting peaks of 235mbps (saw when SD card was new) OR since my card has been useds LOTS, a reformat and so forth may show those higher results - which I think some ppl have seen when attempting RAW video.

So, 133mbps = 133/8 is ~16mBps, FAR from the 30mBps M SD writer speed capability (30mBps * 8 = 240mbps) of M (once again I think we think that is the speed limit of the writer ?).

So something has changed in the year or so I saw 235mbps peak, and the only change was/is the fairly heavy use of my SD card and NO reformat or conditioning !! (Sandisk  UHS-II 80mBps read, 60mBps write or some such)

So maybe reformat/condition your fast SD card before doing critical video - test and see !!

On the other hand, I do not think using the Canon encoder algorithm, that a 200mbps recording is any usefully better than is a 133mbps or maybe lower.

Most of the above testing was done in 'crop' mode, both TL & ML so a higher bit rate and crop mode will give you the 'BESTEST' Canon video, maybe as good as RAW via ML/TL or better !! 

PS: But honestly Canon 1080p 2kHD video is so soft that it barely looks better than other makes 720p !!  This really is a shortcoming of Canon at the moment - IMO ! And 4kHD blows it away even via an iPhone 4kHD !!

Good Luck ALL !!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: bobbyem on January 19, 2015, 12:15:50 PM
Hi there!

I am wondering how to format/remove ML from my Eos-M? The problem is that when I go to the format-tab like Ive normaly done on my 60D, I can´t select the "remove Magic Lantern" option. It says "Tap the screen" but when I do, nothing happens... Since I want to be able to use this fast SD-card in my 60D tomorrow for a shoot, I want to be able to get rid of the Eos-M-ML without screwing up that camera.

Does anyone know how to fix this?

Many thanks for any reply!
/Bobby
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: walter_schulz on January 19, 2015, 12:44:22 PM
If you used the format option on your 60D to wipe ML from the cam you wiped the card instead. Cam's bootflag is still set. You have to run install again to reset it.
Read first post of this thread.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: bobbyem on January 19, 2015, 01:34:56 PM
Okay, I did not know that. But the problem is still that I need to uninstall it from my Eos-m first, if I try to do the update-way of uninstalling it says "Memory card containing firmware is required...".

Thanks alot for the reply!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: walter_schulz on January 19, 2015, 01:40:03 PM
Read first post. And follow instructions.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: mike9009 on January 19, 2015, 11:08:42 PM
I have had ML installed for some time and now want to remove ML.  I have followed the instructions given in the first post...

Uninstallation:
1) Run Firmware Update from your ML card.
2) Follow the instructions.



There seems to be no 'instructions' to remove ML after running the firmware update.....

Thanks in advance!

Mike

Edit - Found how to do it!!  At the bottom of the screen you need to wait for 30 seconds to remove the boot flag.  Obvious really but the initial post could say this to clarify the uninstall process.  If you simply reboot without waiting the 30 seconds, ML is not removed.  (And yes I was being slow but finally caught up!!)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 19, 2015, 11:10:20 PM
Just read the screen messages ...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: mike9009 on January 19, 2015, 11:27:49 PM
All it says is.....

'Please restart your camera'

which I do (switch Off and then back On) - and then the camera still has ML firmware!  Sorry, but I must be really slow tonight, as I cannot see a way to remove the ML firmware.

Mike
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 19, 2015, 11:29:52 PM
Wait for 31 seconds after this message appears.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: slvrscoobie on January 22, 2015, 11:23:43 PM
Guys!
Possible break through on the shutter bug.
Try renaming your SD Card volume to EOS_Develop.
For whatever reason, I can make both of my Ms exhibit and then cure the shutter bug with this trick. It must be related to how the camera starts up and looks for the card.
I name it that, it works, name it something else, it stops working. format and rename, it works again!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 23, 2015, 12:13:20 AM
You sure about that @slvrscoobie?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on January 23, 2015, 09:37:38 AM
Try renaming your SD Card volume to EOS_Develop.

This makes sense (I also believe it's something from the bootloader). If you experience the shutter bug, please try and report.

@slvrscoobie: does it matter if you write the label as upper-case?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Janke on January 25, 2015, 07:41:45 PM
No cigar.

I renamed my ML card to EOS_Develop - shutter is still buggedly locked, will operate only after lens twist trick.

This happened with the 18-55, and also the new 55-200 mm lens.

It ALSO happens with the 11-22 if it is in the shooting position when you power on the camera, but NOT if you power on with the lens collapsed.

However, then the message "Set lens to shooting position" does NOT appear! This always appears with a collapsed 11-22 lens with a non-ML card.

The 22 pancake lens does not cause the shutter bug, only the 3 other lenses.

Yes, I've got all four lenses, being an EOS-M fan (or freak?)

Hope the above helps diagnosing...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: philmoz on January 25, 2015, 11:10:37 PM
Changing the card name makes no difference on mine - at the moment mine works correctly with all lenses.
I'm trying to make the problem happen rather than fix it, so I can try and diagnose the cause.

The problem stopped on my camera after a low level format of the SD card in the camera, and has not returned since.

Phil.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Janke on January 26, 2015, 10:03:02 AM
I tried that and - wow! Indeed, no shutter bug anymore.

Very strange, though: Letting the camera do a low-level format did NOT remove the autoexec or the ML files, but did indeed zero the DCIM and MISC folder, and removed a folder named "old FIR". The card was also renamed to EOS_DIGITAL by the camera.

So, this looks promising. Anyone else care to try? Will your autoexec and ML folder be left intact after the low-level format?

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: walter_schulz on January 26, 2015, 10:17:19 AM
With format setting "keep ML" ML will just do that.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Janke on January 26, 2015, 10:20:26 AM
Ha! Yes - it's *supposed* to leave the ML on the card... my bad!  ;D

BUT: Loading the latest nightly build, the bug is back! New low-level format, shutter bug gone !

So, everytime you load a new nightly, do a low level format (and lose the photos on the card...) ?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: walter_schulz on January 26, 2015, 10:24:41 AM
You lose the photos if you format the card in both modes ...
What about copying them to your computer first?

"Loading" means: Fresh install or "extract nightly contents and copy contents to card"?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Janke on January 26, 2015, 10:50:45 AM
"What about copying them to your computer first?"

That goes without saying...  :P

Seriously, does the fact that the "Set lens to shooting position" is missing on power-on give any clue to the problem?

"Loading" means: Fresh install or "extract nightly contents and copy contents to card"?

In my case, it was the latter. I did remove and trash the old before copying the new.

But, if this means the problem is solved, i.e. do a low-level after a nightly, then all is rosy for the future... :P
Title: Canon EOS M "Full-res silent pics"
Post by: Janke on January 26, 2015, 12:03:36 PM
Sorry if this has been asked before, a quick search of the forum didn't help:

Can you use the ML intervalometer for taking pictures with an open shutter, i.e. not mechanically straining the camera taking hundreds, even thousands of photos?

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: walter_schulz on January 26, 2015, 12:55:33 PM
http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/userguide#intervalometer
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Janke on January 26, 2015, 01:40:35 PM
Thank you!

Looks like it is not possible to take full-res stills without shutter clicks :

"To make a timelapse without increasing shutter count, do not use the intervalometer; instead, set FPS override to a very low value (for example, 3fps) and start recording.
When using the intervalometer in LiveView with noisy mode, your shutter will wear twice as fast than outside LiveView."



I have now bookmarked the manual, which I could not find by searching for "EOS-M manual"
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: walter_schulz on January 26, 2015, 01:53:18 PM
Why should ML team create an EOS M manual? ML team codes ML and a User Guide (the upmost line may contain a hint about that one).
If you go to
Top of page -> Downloads -> Browse Nightly Builds -> Features
you get a list with links to forum threads and User Guide sections.

And FRSP is still in development.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Janke on January 26, 2015, 02:23:15 PM
I used those search terms here, because I thought they were relevant to the EOS-M model and ML... ;)

But, I found what I needed, i.e. the ML User Guide, and am happy with having found it.

Testing the low fps rates, I can get down to about one frame in every 5 seconds, but no longer interval. So, shutter clicks will increase...

But, all in all, any EOS (be it either my 550D or the two EOS-M) gets a fantastic boost by ML - so thanks to all involved!


PS: I have adapted a Canon 7.5 - 97.5 mm f:1,4 TV zoom lens to my EOS-M - works well with the 3x video crop. Wow! ;)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 26, 2015, 06:19:41 PM
I second that regarding FRSP is still being in development.

Be patience guys!

[emoji106]
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 27, 2015, 09:09:00 PM

PS: I have adapted a Canon 7.5 - 97.5 mm f:1,4 TV zoom lens to my EOS-M - works well with the 3x video crop. Wow! ;)

Sounds marvelous... Any chance you could show us a footage to see what that particular 3x crop looks like? [emoji2]
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: neharris on January 28, 2015, 05:17:37 PM
I'm a new user of ML and have played with it for a few days (usually my best way of learning) and searched the forum and User Guide, but still have a question I hope you can help with.

When trying to use the Magic Zoom (which works) I can't find any way of changing the focus point that it zooms in to. If I use the Canon menu's I can change it by touching the screen and then hitting the zoom icon, but whatever I have selected in the Canon menu gets stuck as the focus point when I go into the ML menus and use Magic Zoom.  I am using old Manual Focus lenses via a non electronic adapter so the camera doesn't think I have a lens attached (if that makes a difference) but again the Canon menus allow me to change the focus point by touching the screen, while the ML menus don't.  I hope I have explained myself clearly.

Am I doing something wrong, or is this not supported?

Thanks, Neil.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Janke on January 28, 2015, 06:26:36 PM

DeafEyeJedi asked: Any chance you could show us a footage to see what that particular 3x crop looks like?

Try this:

http://youtu.be/uKWW0rr5GR8

Note that this is a very early and quick test, focus isn't the best possible, and the shadow at lower left disappeared with a rotation of the lens mount. This lens is old, intended for standard definition ENG cameras, resolution 720x576, so no wonder it's not perfectly sharp.

I have a much better lens, a Canon f 1.8, 12.5 - 75 mm TV zoom, but it's only 5x. No YT demo at the moment, sorry...

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: feureau on January 29, 2015, 05:36:08 AM
Btw, does anyone know the method to start the camera without ML loading? I understand on other camera, it's holding down the set button while powering up, but it doesn't seem to work with EOS-M ML?

Wondering if not loading the ML would help with the shutter bug. It's still happening with my 18-55mm. No shutter bug on the 22mm.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Janke on January 29, 2015, 10:03:52 AM
Just change to a card without ML - that's what I do...

Try the low-level format option, the bug disappeared for me using that trick.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 31, 2015, 07:13:18 AM
Anybody tried out the Tamron 18-200mm EF-M lens with Magic Lantern yet? I was wondering if you get the shutter bug with that lens.

So far it only seems to affect the Canon EF-M IS lenses--meaning all but the 22mm prime. Apparently EF lenses mounted via the adapter won't trigger the shutter bug.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on February 02, 2015, 11:45:36 PM
I checked with some owners of the new Tamron 18-200mm EF-M lens. It IS affected by the shutter-bug.

Dang!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: joeg on February 03, 2015, 10:44:30 AM
Have they removed the RAW video from the Nightly build for EOS-M? It's not showing up. I heard it was working... but where, how?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: walter_schulz on February 03, 2015, 10:47:24 AM
It's a module. You have to enable it in Module tab, restart the cam and configure RAW record options in Movie tab.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: joeg on February 03, 2015, 11:00:13 AM
I got it, but it stops after a couple of seconds. Is there a limit on how long it goes?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: walter_schulz on February 03, 2015, 11:16:08 AM
Yes, there are limits.
Start reading here
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=49.0
with special attention to
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6215.0
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: joeg on February 03, 2015, 11:22:02 AM
Thanks, Walter.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: joeg on February 03, 2015, 11:55:10 AM
Clips all stop at 2.5 seconds, 114,465kb. Is there a way to overcome this? Otherwise it's useless to me.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: walter_schulz on February 03, 2015, 12:31:03 PM
Which modules are loaded?
Global draw on or off?
Which resolution and frame rate?
How fast is your card? Debug tab -> Benchmarks -> Card R/W benchmark (5 min). Use photo mode, global draw off.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: joeg on February 04, 2015, 09:30:55 PM
Hi Walter,

The pink dots in RAW were a deal killer.

My other major problem, with EOS-m, is that I can't get any overlay info while shooting. Nothing appears at all when recording, so I can't judge exposure. Is there some trick or module to enable?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 04, 2015, 09:43:38 PM
Maybe you're a bit jumpy?
Are you recording MLV or RAW? If MLV: You may want to set this option in Movie tab -> RAW video (MLV) -> Global Draw
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: joeg on February 04, 2015, 10:02:17 PM
"Maybe you're a bit jumpy?"

No. I'm a filmmaker, not a beta tester.

I turned off raw. It's in movie mode, bit rate 2.5x. The 3.0x wasn't stable at recording. The slower speed seems okay, but no overlays work. Global draw is on for all modes, but as I said, it doesn't appear.

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 04, 2015, 10:18:38 PM
I'm a filmmaker, not a beta tester.

Yes, Director McCoy.
You pressed INFO several times to toggle until ML's overlays show up?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: joeg on February 05, 2015, 01:17:45 AM
Actually I cleared all settings in Canon's menu to try and default it and try again, but now I have a brand new issue.

The screen that allows firmware upgrades has disappeared. I'm trying to just reinstall Canon's 2.02 firmware, but the menu choice is in the ether. Any idea why it disappeared?

Update:

Odd happenings, very flaky results. The firmware finally reappeared, but my shutter no longer works in picture mode. The camera won't take pictures, even with a different card without ML. I reinstalled 2.02 firmware, cleared settings (again), but the shutter no worky. Is this a known bug?

Update 2:

Changing to the Canon 18-55 lens got the shutter to work again. The other button in the top right still doesn't though. I'll try changing lenses again.

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 05, 2015, 05:16:51 AM
Known as "Shutter Bug".
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: joeg on February 06, 2015, 05:07:28 AM
My "shutter bug" is a bit odd. Shutter works on Canon 18-55, but I can't take stills now with Nikon lenses. Nothing happens.

There is also this:

"Firmware default completely disables bitrate control."

I find myself stuck with "FW default," and have lost the one reason I had for installing ML in the first place. There doesn't seem to be any entry about getting the bitrate control BACK again.

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: cpreston on February 06, 2015, 08:25:24 PM
I bemoan the apparent dying of the magic lantern project, but I completely understand it.  I check these forums to see if anything new has happened, but all I ever see are the same questions and ignorant requests.  I don't personally have the talent or knowledge to code and I certainly don't have the patience to deal with questions from people who can't first take the time to understand their tools.  I feel bad that I've never contributed more than money to the project, but I am very grateful for what has been given me and it's ability to help me be a "filmmaker".

Now that I've said that, if you want to use manual lenses you need to set the camera in the menu to release the shutter without a lens attached.  This is not an ML issue.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: farb on February 09, 2015, 05:52:04 PM
I'm using Nightly.2015Jan29 but ML menu disappears after a few seconds.

I've found similar situation reported here.
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/1974/6d-in-live-view-mode-ml-menu-times-out

Is there any way to extend the time menu appears?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: lapser on February 09, 2015, 07:00:27 PM
Is there any way to extend the time menu appears?
It seems to reset the timeout if you press a key. Sometimes I hold the <DOWN> key down to keep the menu on screen while I'm figuring out which menu option to choose.

I've had the opposite problem of trying to get rid of the menu more rapidly. Tapping the screen with two fingers does that, I discovered.

The good old EOS-M has been somewhat a deal killer with RAW/MLV (pink dots removal is a PITA)
I use Rawflow.exe to save DNG files for each frame, and exit the program when it starts to save TIFF files (delete any that are saved).

Then, import the DNG files into Photoshop Lightroom and export them as TIF files with no pink dots.
Quote
But yes I agree with the fact that the M3 would definitely be a game-changer with ML for the current EOS-M owners!
The M3 has a Digic 6 processor, which has been really hard to port with CHDK. It may take awhile for a Magic Lantern port too.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on February 09, 2015, 07:12:10 PM
I've had the opposite problem of trying to get rid of the menu more rapidly. Tapping the screen with two fingers does that, I discovered.

Pressing the shutter halfway should also do the trick.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 09, 2015, 07:37:52 PM
But I'm on a mac @ lapser -- RawTheraPee is somewhat an OK app. Just don't understand or where to start batch process within this app.

Unless there's a Mac version of  RawFlow? If not then perhaps I'll have to run it within VM ware?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: jpaana on February 11, 2015, 09:50:31 AM
Any updates regarding FRSP for EOS-M or is that ever not going to be a possiblity?

FRSP should work fine for M in the branch since August last year, at least it did back then :)
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 11, 2015, 09:53:24 AM
Hmmm... Regular Silent Photos did work and still do but haven't been able to locate a Full_Res Silent Photo module for EOS-M as of yet.

I have been able to get FRSP to work well for both 5D3 & 7D.

Just not the M...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Oswald on February 11, 2015, 01:30:28 PM
FRSP should work fine for M in the branch since August last year, at least it did back then :)
Download link? :)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 11, 2015, 07:39:47 PM
GUys-

Was hoping I didnt need to bring this to your attention but I accidentally tried a unified version with FRSP compiled last night and now my M just blinks green light RAPIDLY whenever I try turning it on. Tried all 3 of my SD cards. (1 with ML & 2 without ML)

I read it somewhere that you can "Put card into cardreader, format with NTFS, insert card into cam, format it there." but didn't do the trick for some reason.

Tried using MacBoot but didn't help. Ive also used Disk Utility to erase the card and put it back in previous ML that worked before to try and format again in camera but to no avail... because it still blinks green light rapidly. Even without a card in it still blinks. Strange?

I think I may have read it somewhere that you can press the Info button to get out of it which didn't work this time but it has in the past if I can recall correctly?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 11, 2015, 07:55:53 PM
Remove battery. Format card inside cardreader. Don't make the card bootable. Insert card, insert battery. Startup.
Report results.
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 11, 2015, 08:16:58 PM
@Walter Schulz:

Indeed, that did the trick. I think previously I may have messed up the order with taking out the battery and putting it back in first before the card after NTFS'ing it -- That's a big NO-NO!

https://vimeo.com/119370912 (https://vimeo.com/119370912)

Now off I go and try again with the newly compiled FRSP for the M.

Thanks again to you for your clarifications & @jpanna for the FRSP build!

*EDIT*

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7397/15881154414_6764c53de6_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qcn4V9) (https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8675/15883556423_23f3fea327_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qcznX6)

:D  [emoji119] [emoji482]
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: jpaana on February 11, 2015, 09:49:53 PM
Phew, glad it worked out :)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Arte Automobilistica on February 23, 2015, 06:43:51 PM
Hi
I have been using ML for years in my x4 and 7D and now want to use it on my M. It is my understanding that the shutterbug does not occur on any EF/s lenses (even with IS eg 15-85) nor any manual focus lenses. Am I correct?

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on February 25, 2015, 06:07:00 AM
I've only encountered the shutter-bug with EF/M IS zoom lenses. Don't let fear of the shutter-bug keep you from using ML on the EOS-M. It turns the M into an awesome little camera.  If the bug does bite, simple switch to a card w/o ML or turn off the camera boot flag by running the firmware update and waiting about 30 sec. before power cycling the camera. A few of us that have had the bug are bug free after reformatting the card and reinstalling ML.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: bot_ on February 25, 2015, 08:32:56 AM
Can I ask about rack focus capabilities? I hear they aren't present on the EOS M build of ML. Why not? It would be cool to be able to use the thumb wheel as a focus knob.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: FRIPPE123 on February 25, 2015, 02:21:43 PM
25 FPS ON EOS M&ML PLEASE HELP! The firmware seems great but I can't get it to run on 25fps. Anyone knows?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dmilligan on February 25, 2015, 02:28:25 PM
Page 187 of your camera manual (http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/8/0300008788/01/eosm-im-en.pdf).
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: FRIPPE123 on February 25, 2015, 07:04:50 PM
Thx dmilligan! Got it & Works! Would you OR ANYONE KNOW if EOS M2 would work with ML?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dmilligan on February 25, 2015, 08:09:26 PM
not until somebody ports ML to it
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: bot_ on February 27, 2015, 01:35:40 AM
I haven't got any SD cards at the moment, and thus cannot test this out on my new-to-me M, but does the latest build have follow focus ability at all? To control autofocus lenses via the camera interface?

I would so love that. Sorry to repeat myself.
Title: Canon Eos M3
Post by: max54 on February 28, 2015, 08:00:09 PM
Hi guys. Is it possible use magiclantern on eos m3? Has anyone done the test?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Arte Automobilistica on February 28, 2015, 08:00:46 PM
@dfort - thanks for your reply. My research says the same that it only occurs with ef-m IS lenses.

Off to download ML :)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 01, 2015, 01:22:51 AM
Please REFRAIN from asking non-sense (or half-@$$) questions regarding M2 or M3.

If you would've taken the time to read the actual forum as a whole, then you wouldn't be wasting our time.

This thread is specifically for the M and only the M!

Keep it original...

Thank You!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Barrys_Bapz on March 06, 2015, 01:50:06 PM
I've been a Magic Lantern user for the last few years now, for the M I have refrained from installing the software as it's basically my travel camera and if the shutterbug were to occur that would be my documenting of my travels affected, does anyone have a sure way to disable the bug eg, swapping out our memory card that doesn't have ML, or do you have to wait until you're out a computer to format?

What would greatly help is if someone had a sure 'simple' way to fix the issue, for Windows users and then if anything does occur then there is a safe fix.

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: ganselm on March 06, 2015, 01:55:01 PM
I'm using the 22mm, the 18-55mm and the walimex 12mm without any problems. The shutterbug occurs on the tamron 18-200mm, but since it can be removed by loosening the lens once after turning on the camera I just do that and keep the camera turned on as long as I need it.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Barrys_Bapz on March 06, 2015, 02:10:06 PM
I would like to refrain from reattaching lenses, my workflow is fast and I would need there to be very little margin of errors as possible, I think we would all appreciate the development of the bug in this case as ML is king, went from the Sony A7 to M and with the video quality there is a lot more from the M, and the capabilities that ML unlocks the camera is basically a beast!!!

Also at the moment I'm running into some buffer issues inside of the camera with my memory card, what would be the recommended speed of card I can go to?? Is there a right speed limit in the M?

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: ganselm on March 06, 2015, 02:16:07 PM
Afaik the SD card controller is the bottleneck. You should be able to find more information somewhere in this forum
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Barrys_Bapz on March 06, 2015, 02:19:52 PM
Prime lenses are fantastic and a few years ago I would never of dream of using a zoom especially the 18-200, but The contrast and sharpness of these modern lenses really do performe fantastically even the M's 18-55 I would consider that possibly the best 18-55 on the market, so I have really got a love for these modern lenses sold my Canon LTM 0.95 and I was a glass snob...

I think if you know what you're doing theoretically with a camera it doesn't matter what camera you have or lens your artistic vision and execution is everything, but with the M it is quite hard to Pin the focus sharp so ML would ROCK, on this bad boy and the processor and colour rendering of the M even the way it handles noise... Totally underestimated little package, but the bug!

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Barrys_Bapz on March 06, 2015, 02:26:55 PM
Can someone add a link to the speed of the SD buffer?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 06, 2015, 02:58:41 PM
Suppose you're asking for SD-card interface limit in MByte/s:
Give or take (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_%28number%29)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: kosmarnik on March 10, 2015, 03:06:11 PM
Hi,
using magiclantern-Nightly.2015Mar03.EOSM202 I still get only old silent pictures, no FRSP.
What version has the FRSP?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 10, 2015, 03:42:11 PM
The one compiled by you.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: kosmarnik on March 10, 2015, 03:59:41 PM
The one compiled by you.
I was under the impression that if was merged in the main branch from which the nightlies are compiled?

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on March 12, 2015, 02:10:40 PM
I was under the impression that if was merged in the main branch from which the nightlies are compiled?
I compiled it  ( this VM updated: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7579.0 w/ updated gcc-arm to 4.8.4 as the included one failed: https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded/4.8/4.8-2014-q3-update ) for myself yesterday ( commit 666c09b ): http://we.tl/p1e78AKUef

Do keep in mind there are some issues: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12523.msg142216#msg142216
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: arthurpattee on March 13, 2015, 09:57:44 PM
Hi there, I've ordered my EOS M this afternoon, and I'm planing to install ML as soon as I receive it. But I've few interrogations :/
I saw that the last build has a shutter issue, is it still the case? Is there any kind of stable version?
I'm buy the M because I wanna shoot videos with it, does anyone has found good settings to do so?
Thanks for your help, really excited to soon be part of this community!  :)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: skogstokig on March 14, 2015, 06:44:37 PM
Hi all,

I´m trying to use magic lantern on my EOS M to shoot bracketed spherical panoramas. I want to use my IR remote to trigger the camera but I'm having some trouble making this work in combination with magic lantern. A lot of the time it will not shoot all the brackets and most of the time it is doing the 10 sec delay/timer before each exposure. This is not happening with every try though, and the results seems, to me, quite random. Anyone have any experience with this and know a good workaround?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on March 15, 2015, 09:22:14 PM
I saw that the last build has a shutter issue, is it still the case?
Apparently it is: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug
I don't have it myself but I might be a lone case.

Is there any kind of stable version?
Not really, always get the latest build: http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/ -> EOSM.202 as it's better to report issues having the latest version anyway.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: silverburn on March 17, 2015, 09:59:04 PM
Ok, so just got my 2.0.2 and flashed it immediately with ML.

What are the best settings for video? I would like to retain the 1080, 16:9 size, and it will be used on a gimbal on a drone...what are my options?

I have the 22mm lens.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: swheads on March 18, 2015, 03:45:00 AM
Does anyone know if ML will allow me to tether my EOS M? I hope to be able to use it with a microscope but I really need to be able to control the camera from a computer adjacent to the scope.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: vertigopix on March 18, 2015, 08:50:20 AM
No and i think that this will never happen...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: arthurpattee on March 19, 2015, 09:10:23 AM
Thanks for your answer, I'll try out soon anyway!
And I have the same question that Silverburn, does anyone shoot in video mode with the M? :)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on March 19, 2015, 07:13:45 PM
I shoot video mode with the M. In fact I shot some tests with the idea that I'd do my "real" shooting with a higher end camera but the EOS M performed so well that I'm using it for a documentary I'm doing.

I'm not shooting raw, increasing the H.264 bit rate or anything like that. My settings are the standard 1080p 23.976fps. The ML features that I use the most are the audio metering, focus peaking and 3x crop mode. The crop mode is particularly interesting because I mostly use prime lenses and it is like having two lenses without having to change lenses. It doesn't seem to reduce the resolution and people report that moire and aliasing artifacts are greatly reduced or eliminated though I haven't had problems with this because of my subject matter and I always shoot with a flat profile.

By the way, the most important setting seems to be the profile. I use Technicolor Cinestyle because that's what I started my project with but there are several others. The best advice I can give is to test, test, test and then shoot a lot.

The EOS M is a fun camera for video. You can set it up to look like a point and shoot camera to go stealth or attach cine lenses on it and it looks like you're using a director's viewfinder. Of course you can also put it on a shoulder rig or strap it on a drone.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on March 20, 2015, 02:31:10 AM
Got the M1 build compiled again:
What's changed:
*updated to the latest FRSP commit e6e9753 (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/branch/fullres-silent-pics)
*bypassed the dual_iso module build error introduced in commit 9e99764 (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/9e99764f432025872286f87d5b7e10014061277f?at=fullres-silent-pics) ( info here (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12523.msg142493#msg142493) )
*bumped wait_lv_frames from 4 to 20 so one can use *-hold for AF ( just set C.FnIV to 1 or 3 ) when taking FRSP ( info in these posts (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12523.msg142489#msg142489) )
*added the Depth of field display (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14734.0) patch

Link: <removed>

/LE: links fixed



/LE: use the nightly, it's merged in main already ;)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 20, 2015, 02:52:17 AM
Thanks @Licaon_Kter -- will definitely check it out and test it on the M1!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on March 20, 2015, 09:45:00 PM

And I have the same question that Silverburn, does anyone shoot in video mode with the M? :)
Apparently someone (https://vimeo.com/ryanmoorman/videos) is shooting on M1.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: arthurpattee on March 22, 2015, 12:38:10 PM
Thank you every one! I should receive my M before the end of the week. I'll go on tests and publish the results if some of you are interested :)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: gaosqq on March 23, 2015, 09:30:40 AM
Is there a trick to read the help files?
I only get the message: Help files not found.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 23, 2015, 10:19:25 AM
Top of page -> Downloads -> Browse Nightly Builds.
What are the disadvantages of nightly builds? Second item.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: gaosqq on March 23, 2015, 11:50:29 AM
I read all the 23 pages and nothing found about help files. Now I know why.
But as always....... Read the manual before operating........ And start reading at page 1.........
Thank you.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on March 23, 2015, 10:44:47 PM
Updated again, this (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9741.msg142766#msg142766) plus these (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/848d3944d5b91f84d4b195b02ee8db5231f773f4) three (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/d190470d38c889cabcc75e0cc9e4b08ec7af6aa0) tweaks (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/35295ffb47063166ddf5bbd2761db7aee0dec682)


Link:



/LE: use the nightly, it's merged in main already ;)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: drijosephadrian on March 28, 2015, 10:14:22 PM
Is anyone else having an issue with ML displaying the frame rate as 29.97 regardless of the actual selected frame rate? also, I can't find 1/48 shutter speed because of this.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: godmode on April 10, 2015, 07:53:09 AM
Is it possible to rollback to original EOS M 2.0.2 firmware?
How?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 10, 2015, 08:17:25 AM
First page, first post.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: danielboeswald on April 14, 2015, 12:07:48 PM
hi guys,

i got my EOS-M (mk1) and have problems with my raws
(http://www.snabshod.com/M14-1127_frame_000024.jpg)

has anybody an idea how to solve this pattern problem?

thx a lot
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 14, 2015, 12:15:51 PM
Pink dot remover
And visit Postprocessing forum
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: RavingRover on April 16, 2015, 01:03:00 PM
Are the pink dots/patterns the Phase Detect &/or the Contrast Detect sensor locations - anyone really know ?  They certainly do not cover as much of sensor (total coverage area) as I would have thought.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on April 16, 2015, 02:49:06 PM
From the Canon site ( Hybrid AF ) compared to M2 ( Hybrid AF II ):
(http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/tech/report/2014/01/img/zu_06.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on April 18, 2015, 03:09:39 PM
I keep seeing the camera temperature on other cameras ML menu, does this need more data for M to be usable or what?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: 2blackbar on April 20, 2015, 06:02:52 PM
How i can change default ML shortcuts when i liveview? I want to use arrowup/down to change my ISO, currently they do single shooting and other options if i press up and i  can change ISO with down  arrow but i only have canon values to choose (100/200/400/800 etc)and i want all of them from ML menu.
Would be best to change ISO with UP/DOWN arrow, change white balance with LEFT/RIGHT arrow and change shutter speed by rotating wheel.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: vertigopix on April 21, 2015, 09:04:22 AM
There is something i don't understand about RAW with EOS M... (and have searched the forum  ;))

This document https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgQ2MOkAZTFHdFFIcFp1d0R5TzVPTVJXOEVyUndteGc#gid=5 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgQ2MOkAZTFHdFFIcFp1d0R5TzVPTVJXOEVyUndteGc#gid=5) says that EOS M "can record FullHD only when also recording H.264"

So do i need to set it to 720p in the Canon menu to work correctly ? I've not seen any difference in the results when tryed both 1080p and 720p mode.
Is the Canon menu setting make any difference in RAW recording ?

And about FPS : It's mandatory to use FPS override to get something another than LV approx 30 fps, right ?

Another question (maybe bug ?) :

In photo mode, when i set M mode and use AETTR (configured in HalfS DblClick) the "ETTR..." symbol in LV never disappear. But, if i set Av mode, it's ok, it disappear (as usual) after the mesurement is done.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on April 21, 2015, 09:17:04 AM
You could check that with regular silent pictures. If I remember well, Canon video settings only get applied when you start recording H.264 (and until you do that, it stays at 720p 30fps or something like that - you tell me).

Currently you can't record RAW at the same time with H.264, but it should be doable.

The redraw issue is probably a bug. You could check if redraw() gets called at the end of NotifyBox_task(). If yes, check if dialog_redraw() gets called in _redraw_do. If that gets called, but does not do the right thing, we are probably asking it to redraw some tiny dialog (not the entire screen). I'm not sure how to fix it in this case (need to experiment, probably need to redraw some dialog below the topmost one).
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: vertigopix on April 21, 2015, 09:32:36 AM
Thank you a1ex,

I think there's no need for "simulREC"... Or maybe just to trick the M with a fake (unusable) H.264 rec and get 3x3 sampling in 1080p mode.

For the redraw issue i can try and report here, thank you.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on April 21, 2015, 09:38:21 AM
Can you get the VRAM image dumps for EOS M? http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12375

These will tell exactly what subsampling factors are in each video mode.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: vertigopix on April 21, 2015, 10:07:04 AM
My M is always with me...  ;D

Here is : http://www.filedropper.com/eosm_1

- 1080p25 stby
- 1080p25 rec
- 720p50 stby
- 720p50 rec

If you need something else, tell me.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on April 21, 2015, 10:13:56 AM
Yes, photo mode LV and 5x zoom please. Also, can you repeat the 1080p25 rec image? (it came out corrupted).

Are there other video modes like 640x480 or crop?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: vertigopix on April 21, 2015, 10:34:42 AM
Here is : http://www.filedropper.com/eosm_2

1080p25 rec (still corrupted ?)
photo LV
photo 5x zoom
640x480p25 stby
640x480p25 rec
1080p25 crop stby
1080p25 crop rec
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on April 21, 2015, 10:56:01 AM
So, these dumps confirm what the spreadsheet says: FullHD buffers are only available while recording H.264 (and in crop mode, but that one is listed on another column). In standby or in photo mode, the sensor is read out at 720p.

To get a clean picture in 1080p rec, you might have better luck with a low FPS.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: vertigopix on April 21, 2015, 11:04:24 AM
Ok, fine. Happy to help.

Quote
To get a clean picture in 1080p rec, you might have better luck with a low FPS.

Do you need it ?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on April 21, 2015, 11:05:57 AM
Would be nice to have it for QEMU experiments, but I can find an workaround (like duplicating some good data).
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: vertigopix on April 21, 2015, 11:16:39 AM
Tried at different fps (1,10,20) but can't get it clean...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on April 21, 2015, 11:20:49 AM
Then, you might have better luck with silent pictures.

If not, nevermind.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: vertigopix on April 21, 2015, 11:35:47 AM
What do you mean ?
Take a SP while recording 1080p25 ?

If yes, here is : http://www.filedropper.com/09500000
Title: Audio monitoring
Post by: dragonsfire1981 on April 23, 2015, 07:43:49 PM
Hi there,

I only recently installed ML. I read before that the audio monitoring function for the AV cable out port didn't work before, is that still the case? or is there an alternative solution?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: JX on April 25, 2015, 01:32:56 PM
Hello

I'm new to Magic Lantern and discovering it right now.
I'm having some issues on my EOS M with the latest nightly buil (2015 /4/19)

1/ The menu seems to appear only in movie mode, not in photo mode.
2/ I am not able to select menu options. For instance I can't change the time value for intervallometer; pressing the Q button (which is the same as the Set button on the EOS M) toggles only between “Off” and “On, 10s” values. Any suggestion on what I am doing wrong?
3/ Help files seem to be missing from the zip file.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: JX on April 25, 2015, 01:41:56 PM
2/ I am not able to select menu options. For instance I can't change the time value for intervallometer; pressing the Q button (which is the same as the Set button on the EOS M) toggles only between “Off” and “On, 10s” values. Any suggestion on what I am doing wrong?

Answering my own question: to select an option value, touching the screen seems to be the thing to do.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on April 27, 2015, 05:23:44 PM
1/ The menu seems to appear only in movie mode, not in photo mode.
press INFO one more time until you get it

3/ Help files seem to be missing from the zip file.
you know that already since you've read this: http://magiclantern.fm/downloads.html (http://magiclantern.fm/downloads.html) right?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: JX on April 28, 2015, 04:37:29 PM
Quote
you know that already since you've read this: http://magiclantern.fm/downloads.html right?

I think I don't get it. Is there something else than the nightly builds to download for EOS-M, some full version that would include help files?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 28, 2015, 04:39:21 PM
At time of writing there is only one version and there are no helpfiles included.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: JX on April 28, 2015, 08:03:21 PM
Quote
At time of writing there is only one version and there are no helpfiles included.

OK, thanks.

Quote
press INFO one more time until you get it

I couldn't get it to work. When I'm in photo mode I can get to the ML view pressing Display, but if I press the Trash can button it just shows the DOF preview, although it opens the ML configuration menu if I am in video mode.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on April 28, 2015, 10:56:14 PM
Switch Trash to ISO, does it help?


I'm not able to repro this, it just works... pressing INFO:
1. Canon interface without Live View
2. Canon mode interface simple

3. Canon mode interface more info
4. ML interface
5. press again to go to point 1.

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Marc Griffith on April 29, 2015, 05:02:04 PM
A heads up. EOS-M build is currently failing, I hope this means new goodies are in the works. :)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on April 29, 2015, 05:29:32 PM

A heads up. EOS-M build is currently failing, I hope this means new goodies are in the works. :)
This needs fixing, hence the hold up, contribute to unblock it: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14959
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on April 30, 2015, 01:40:08 PM
Anyone else can contribute? https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug#comment-17792140 (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug#comment-17792140)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on April 30, 2015, 02:40:36 PM
Anyone else can contribute? https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug#comment-17792140 (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug#comment-17792140)


Done. I have the shutter bug.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: EosM-User on May 02, 2015, 03:43:50 PM
Hi,

is there a reason why all the focus specific stuff in the eos-m build is disabled ? (like stack focus, rack focus ...)
I tried to use the Focus Infinity Module (foc_inf.mo) but it wont change the focus so i think the problem is that even the basic api focus controls like lens_focus() in focus.h are not working for eos-m ?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 07, 2015, 03:25:01 AM
*feedbacks*

Guys... I just decided today to randomly test out the M with AF Nikkor 24mm f/2.8D (with Fotodiox lens mount adapter) and it wouldn't allow me to record MLV/RAW or even take photos on the M.

Once I then took the Nikkor lens off and swap it with Canon lenses... it was back in working condition. Not a big deal to me but just thought it may be worth noting unless I'm missing something?

Is this normal?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: 350D on May 07, 2015, 03:32:21 AM
@DeafEyeJedi Check and update your "Custom function 7 " in Canon settings menu
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 07, 2015, 03:40:31 AM
That's probably it. Will check on that and report back!

Thanks, @350D!
Title: Battery Life for Intervalometer custom FPS (0.2)
Post by: David Goldwasser on May 07, 2015, 09:32:39 PM
I have been shooting time lapse with a 20D and a TC-80N3 remote. I find my Sony RX100 out shoots it by lot, in particular at night, but it doesn't have a good way to do time lapse, plus I miss all my canon lens, I tend to use a lot of wide lenses; Canon 10-22EFS and Sigma 18mm fisheye being my favorite. I don't shoot professionally anymore so I don't want the cost or bulk of the 70d, and I'm leaning toward the original Eos M. Traveling with kids it is nice to have a smaller camera. I can keep 22 on for quick shooting, but will use adapter for my other lens a lot.

My question is about battery life when shooting time lapse. Didn't know if anyone had experience with it that they can share. I know there are a number of settings I can configure that will impact this. I will be traveling for 8 days without my computer and the idea of the FPS sounds convenient to save space on memory card (although they are so big now, maybe not a big issue) but of course I give up resolution, mainly important if I wanted to do some zooming on the time lapse. FYI - going to Grand Canyon, Antelope Canyon, X=Zion , Bryce, and Capital Reef on road trip. That is what is spurring me to make a decision.

Any thoughts,
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: walaw on May 12, 2015, 08:22:52 PM
 Latest Build
This Build Failed!  :o

I need magic-lantern for my eos m - because I need to record a video which is longer than 29 mins. Where can I get a magiclantern build now?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 12, 2015, 08:30:45 PM
You may want to press button "Show older builds" and try one of those 223 builds before build 224.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 13, 2015, 01:47:33 PM
Test please (latest build needed):
Switch Magic Zoom to Fullscreen mode. Does screen look fine or is there some kind of vertical splitt with "tiles"?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 13, 2015, 03:38:02 PM
This Build Failed!  :o
I need magic-lantern for my eos m - because I need to record a video which is longer than 29 mins. Where can I get a magiclantern build now?
It's broken because of this: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14959 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14959)
And you are not missing much anyway, use the magiclantern-Nightly.2015Apr19.EOSM202.zip from the Older builds

Test please (latest build needed):
Switch Magic Zoom to Fullscreen mode. Does screen look fine or is there some kind of vertical splitt with "tiles"?
Not a M feature: https://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/features (https://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/features) ;)



Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: grey on May 20, 2015, 06:40:14 PM
There is developer of nightly for EOS M? Why progress is stopped? 
Many things implemented in ML ports for 6D and 70D not work on M. What about recording in MLV? Why i can not record without squeezing by vertical?
Silent picture produces black images. Magic Zoom not work as it should.  My EOS M was broken for long time, and i use ML mostly on 6D. And now when i'm repair M and install ML fo it I lost a lot of the usual functionality. Very sad...  ::)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 20, 2015, 10:26:22 PM
> There is developer of nightly for EOS M? Why progress is stopped?
This is a blocker: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14959 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14959)
Contribute, maybe you can help, although you are not missing anything compared to the latest good build of April 19.
BTW, progress has not stopped in any form or fashion, you can undo the error line and it will compile just fine, but the issue in the thread still stands.

> Many things implemented in ML ports for 6D and 70D not work on M.
Correct, try this: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12657.0 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12657.0)
Different cameras... you can't just compare 6D and a M, c'mon.

> What about recording in MLV? Why i can not record without squeezing by vertical?
The camera can't handle a bigger resolution/data rate, try a 5DIII if you want more. ;)
Some info about what it can do: https://rbrune.github.io/mlraw/ (https://rbrune.github.io/mlraw/)

> Silent picture produces black images.
Report this in the right thread: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12523.725 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12523.725)
FYI, it's working fine for me and others on M, except that pesky lens not closing to correct aperture bug.

> Magic Zoom not work as it should
Details?

> And now when i'm repair M and install ML fo it I lost a lot of the usual functionality.
What did you lose exactly?
What build had everything you wanted?

Also, what was the problem with your M and how did you fix it?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: JamesGreen on May 21, 2015, 01:20:40 AM
Hello, I was wondering if anyone can help.

I installed magic lantern on my canon eos M however due to the shutter bug I decided to delete it, however i completely messed this process up! I took the card out and blanked it on my computer. When putting it into the camera it just flashes green constantly. I tried putting the firmware 2.0.2 onto another memory card and i can get into the camera this way however when i go to the 4th wrench menu to reroute it all of the options have gone (http://s2.postimg.org/kw7dfn4it/Full_Size_Render.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/kw7dfn4it/)

Does anyone know how i can get my camera back to how it was when i bought it with the original sd card??

Thank you,

James
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 21, 2015, 02:21:11 AM
put ML on the card again and uninstall from the camera first


see this: http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/install
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: grey on May 21, 2015, 02:21:34 AM
To Licaon_Kter

May be you misunderstand me in some things. English is not my native language ,so I can't describe all widely. Google translate is not the answer. And I practice English only on forums like this.  :(


About Magic Zoom: image flickers in zoomed part.

About MLV record. I use my 6D and 70D to record mlv video. And bandwidh of SD card ~40 MB/S is quite usable for me. As I know EOS M has the same SD card  bandwidh. Why i can't record MLV with same settings as on 6D or 70D? Image is squeezeed vertically. May be i do some thing wrong?

I try FRSP again, and report about results.

About repair. Multicontroller(wheel+5 buttons) worked not good, i disassembled it to clean and accidentally broke ribbon cable. Needed detail shipped not so quick. On last week I install new parts and now camera work like a new.

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 21, 2015, 02:28:54 AM
Why i can't record MLV with same settings as on 6D or 70D?
Yes, but it's not only a card speed issue, it's a different camera, one that costs 1/3 or 1/5 or there about by comparison. :P
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: glassescreditsroll on May 21, 2015, 03:25:26 AM
i dont seem to find anything on why eosm dosent have focus controls like rack focus and focus pulling?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on May 21, 2015, 12:20:56 PM
i dont seem to find anything on why eosm dosent have focus controls like rack focus and focus pulling?

Probably because the M uses a different lens system (EF-M mount). And probably this implies different code in firmware to control the focus. And also probably no developer has found yet the way to get the ML focus related stuff working, due to these differences.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: grey on May 22, 2015, 01:19:58 AM
Yes, but it's not only a card speed issue, it's a different camera, one that costs 1/3 or 1/5 or there about by comparison. :P

EOS M is almoust identical to EOS 650D/700D. And these cameras can record MLV with almost same settings as 6D or 70D. Why EOS M can't?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dmilligan on May 22, 2015, 02:10:53 AM
EOS M is almoust identical to EOS 650D/700D
Heh. Have you seen a picture of these cameras? I would hardly call them "almost identical". In fact, the M is about the most different camera from the rest of the cameras supported by ML, it's actually not even in the same category of camera (i.e. it's a "mirrorless" camera not a "dslr" technically), it even has it's own unique lens mount. The difference is not just physical either. The M is probably the most different from the rest of the cameras in terms of internals and Canon and ML code (with the possible exception of the old VxWorks cameras, like 5Dc). There are quite a few special/unique exceptions for the M in ML code (obviously all cameras have their own unique things in the ML code base, but the M's things tend to be the most unique or non-standard compared to other cameras).
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: grey on May 23, 2015, 01:44:27 PM
Heh. Have you seen a picture of these cameras? I would hardly call them "almost identical". In fact, the M is about the most different camera from the rest of the cameras supported by ML, it's actually not even in the same category of camera (i.e. it's a "mirrorless" camera not a "dslr" technically), it even has it's own unique lens mount. The difference is not just physical either. The M is probably the most different from the rest of the cameras in terms of internals and Canon and ML code (with the possible exception of the old VxWorks cameras, like 5Dc). There are quite a few special/unique exceptions for the M in ML code (obviously all cameras have their own unique things in the ML code base, but the M's things tend to be the most unique or non-standard compared to other cameras).

I am not a coder, but M has same CPU, Digic, CMOS chip, card interface as 650D. ML work mostly in LV mode on DSLR's, so mirror is most unnecessary thing in camera for ML. IMHO.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 23, 2015, 02:22:05 PM
Your logic is flawed. Because ML works fine in Liveview with 650D and M both it doesn't mean there is no difference between firmware versions for both cams.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: grey on May 23, 2015, 02:31:33 PM
Your logic is flawed. Because ML works fine in Liveview with 650D and M both it doesn't mean there is no difference between firmware versions for both cams.


I don't think that firmware of these two cameras identical. I talk about hardware installed in cameras, and their  similarity.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 23, 2015, 02:39:27 PM
Hardware partly similiar. Firmware not similiar. Conclusion?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: grey on May 23, 2015, 02:49:50 PM
Hardware partly similiar. Firmware not similiar. Conclusion?

If HW similar, EOS M can record MLV with same resolution as 650D. But for some reason in LV mode CRAW buffer is smaller that in videorecord mode, and FPS set to 30.  ???
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 23, 2015, 04:33:59 PM

I am not a coder, but ...
Great, now that you admit that, stop this conversation that leads nowhere.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on May 23, 2015, 06:25:36 PM
The EOS-M can actually record 1280x720 raw video at 30fps ... in crop mode (both with raw_rec or mlv_rec)

In normal mode (full, sensor, no crop) I can get only 1280x692 with raw_rec and  1280x432 with mlv_rec. And the aspect ratio gets changed, a little with raw_rec, and a lot with mlv_rec.  So I suspect the problem is not lack of speed, but something not fully understood or properly fine-tuned in video modes settings or timers.

The main problem is (as g3gg0 says here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13746.msg143184#msg143184) that there are way more camera models currently supported by Magic Lantern than skilled developers that are able to maintain them.

And many people is constantly demanding in the forums that even more camera models should be supported: every new camera launched by Canon, and also the oldest cameras (VxWorks based, etc.)

So I do not see an easy solution, witthout more developers contributing, and more users involved in testing and feedback.

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: grey on May 23, 2015, 09:59:16 PM
I think nobody is really interested in fine-tuning EOS M ML project. And this is very sad.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 23, 2015, 10:07:54 PM
Stop trolling around, please. Take a look into ML team's Bitbucket section.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 23, 2015, 10:28:48 PM
I think nobody is really interested in fine-tuning EOS M ML project. And this is very sad.
Why are you still posting here instead of fixing issues, here start with those that I reported: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues?reported_by=~licaon_kter (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues?reported_by=~licaon_kter)

Or better yet test my fix for REC mode here (or in the issue above): http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15210.0 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15210.0)


Either use cloud: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14725.0


Or VM: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7579.0


Or real Linux.


Report your patches here for testing.


Thank You  8)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Ernani on May 24, 2015, 03:52:48 PM
The autoexpo module seem wonderful. Does anyone know if a build has been made that solves the issue of the absence of a wheel button on the eos-m? ie: use other buttons to change the second values.
was it clear the way I said?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: axlastro on May 24, 2015, 08:22:18 PM
Unfortunately the shutter bug is a big problem, as my main lens is 11-22. I tried formatting my card in the PC and after that in camera and for a few days it was bugg-less, but then it came back.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on May 24, 2015, 08:42:01 PM
Some SD card brands (Sandisk) seem to be less afected by the shutter bug than others (Transcend). See this dicussion (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug) and share your own results there, also.

And you can minimize the shutter bug with your EF-M 11-22mm lens if you keep the lens in collapsed position when starting the camera.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 24, 2015, 10:01:00 PM
was it clear the way I said?
Not really, detail your workflow.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Ernani on May 25, 2015, 07:39:01 PM
Not really, detail your workflow.
In the options of the "auto exposure" module some options require the "main dial" button to change values. problem is the M doesn't have it.
for example the  ISO option: lowest value is changed by pressing left or right (works also by pressing up, down and by rotating the wheel), but upper value cannot be changed no matter what.

I prefer a dark picture to a noisy one, thus I'd like to let ISO alternate between 100 and 1600 but never cross over it. "auto exposure" module would do the trick but with the M I can't chose the highest value which is set to 6400.

Am I the only one who finds Canon's auto-expo dreadful?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on May 25, 2015, 08:59:42 PM
Am I the only one who finds Canon's auto-expo dreadful?

No, you are not the only one  ;) But there is Magic Lantern's Auto ETTR module ... and  that's all I need, I use it all the time.

I know A-ETTR is a very different method. Amazingly precise for raw pictures, but it takes a while to do the measurements, it's not intended for fast action.

I have tried autoexpo now in the M... and you are right, I can't change the upper value for ISO, etc.

In my 500D it works, the left/right keys change the lower value and the main dial next to shutter button changes the upper value.
But with the EOS-M the wheel and left/right, up/down and "play" keys all do the same function, they change always the lower value.

And with ML's menu disappearing after few seconds it's really tricky to properly adjust the autoexpo module in the EOS-M.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 25, 2015, 09:34:03 PM

for example the  ISO option: lowest value is changed by pressing left or right (works also by pressing up, down and by rotating the wheel), but upper value cannot be changed no matter what.
oh, so I see now, yes, unfortunate.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 29, 2015, 05:04:47 PM
Hey M users, can I have a request?


Can anyone/everyone please see my reported bugs ( https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues?reported_by=~licaon_kter (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues?reported_by=~licaon_kter) ) and maybe at least confirm/deny them, either here/on their threads/on bitbucket so that we can get more data points or something?


Cheers and thank you.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on May 30, 2015, 08:49:57 PM
Wow Licaon_Kter, looks like you've been working hard on ML for EOS-M.

I take it that testers should be using magiclantern-Nightly.2015Apr19.EOSM202 since the newer builds have been failing. I'll try to reproduce and comment on your bug reports.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 30, 2015, 09:18:03 PM

Wow Licaon_Kter, looks like you've been working hard on ML for EOS-M.
I'm barely shooting, only on weekends, mostly family stuff, by I did stumble upon those even as a n00b that I am.


I take it that testers should be using magiclantern-Nightly.2015Apr19.EOSM202 since the newer builds have been failing. I'll try to reproduce and comment on your bug reports.
Actually the most important ones are before April 19. The breakage after that is intentional, this thread actually: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14959 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14959) where we did try to help out but I'm not sure what we can do better/more, I actually don't understand half of those things anyway. :P

BTW, there is nothing extra, except the DoF info verbose patch that one would be missing when using the April 19 build compared with a un-broke newer build.


Thanks for helping
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on June 01, 2015, 02:13:42 AM
Nice progress on your bug reports. You're doing things I never knew could be done with this camera, ML keeps amazing me. Hope you get your fixes into the nightly build. Speaking of, it would be nice if nightly EOS-M builds get fixed.

Some day I might dive into the code and try getting Audio RemoteShot working again but since I don't have a coding background that will be a long shot. :-\
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on June 01, 2015, 09:36:07 AM
No, no, no, I don't have any fixes, unfortunately, I only stumble on issues.  :-[


I hope that somehow a1ex can read my detailed reports and repro steps and get the same results on a different camera model or in QEMU and track it down, given his knowledge of the code that is.
Title: Battery Life for Intervalometer custom FPS (0.2)
Post by: dfort on June 07, 2015, 09:06:13 PM
Replying to David Goldwasser to his reply #608 back on May 07, 2015

I noticed a while back you posted some questions about extending the battery life on the EOS-M for timelapse. Sorry I was busy on other projects when you posted this but I thought I'd share a solution that has worked for me.

When I did my first timelapse using ML on the EOS-M I knew that the internal battery wasn't going to cut it because I was shooting a couple of artists doing a painting at a 4-hour event. I used a cheap third party AC adapter that I bought through Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CDK0BOA

It worked great but it got me thinking about what to do when there isn't an electrical outlet nearby. The EOS-M batteries are 7.4V and I found that these batteries made for radio controlled cars were also 7.4V:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001BKPAR6

So I cut the cable on the AC adapter, spliced in a Tamiya connector to plug in the battery and it worked. It got a real workout a few weeks ago when I took a timelapse workshop in the desert and my little EOS-M kept clicking away all night while the big boys with their DSLR's had to pack it in because their batteries ran out.

If you combine this with some battery saving settings like turning off live view, silent shutter, etc. this could give you even longer shooting times though honestly I've never run one of these batteries out in the field.

I'm sending you a PM in addition to posting it on the forum because if you're like me you might have a hard time searching through the forums for an answer to your question.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on June 07, 2015, 11:33:45 PM
After I got my M I was testing the settings, looking around ML, messing basically, and I was struck/disappointed by the fact that after half an hour or so the battery would go to yellow/red, as in empty. So reading around, got that the LV is using so much power hence using it in the menus and/or LV will drain it fast, but I was still not convinced, I though that the battery and/or camera was broken.

So I did a simple test, with the help of ML, 32gb empty card, RAW file only, intevalometer, 5 seconds, GO.

Result: >50gb in 2207 pictures in a little more than 3 hours.

Now, that doesn't mean much since the LV mostly stayed on for less that 1 second after every picture, but for me I understood that the camera/battery are not broken at least.
Also I understood that using it on a simple workflow of: open, quick setting, picture, no preview (mostly), close, will serve me good enough.

For pros or far away from a wall plug, yeah, a second/third battery might be needed, and it's on my list also.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Pharinen on June 09, 2015, 05:43:45 PM
*snip*
I'm also looking for external battery solution for my EOS M.

I don't know if could help me since you have build one.  :D

My original plan was to buy this: http://www.amazon.com/EasyAcc%C2%AE-20000mAh-Precise-External-Smartphones/dp/B00LHB51GO (http://www.amazon.com/EasyAcc%C2%AE-20000mAh-Precise-External-Smartphones/dp/B00LHB51GO)

and plug it into Canon's original DC coupler for EOS M(Canon DR-E12). The problem is that I don't find anywhere what is the size of that DC plug on that DC coupler so that I could buy adapter for it! Do you know the dimensions of that DC plug which goes to the "dummy battery"?

Other thing is that now I'm second guessing if that power bank can deliver enough power. It is rated at 8.4V 1A. Voltage should be fine(fully charged canon battery outputs over 8V) but I don't know if 1A is enough.  ???
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Frank7D on June 09, 2015, 07:09:38 PM
Quote
I'm also looking for external battery solution for my EOS M.

It's a little bulky, but I got these three things:

power inverter (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007Y4BL1C?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00)
battery (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004WENYYE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00)
battery charger (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GZL29M?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00)

...and now I have AC power wherever I go.

You could combine that with an AC adapter for your camera.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on June 09, 2015, 09:36:39 PM
Just wondering if this is a bug or a feature.

In the Canon menu, 4th wrench, Custom Functions(C.Fn), C.FnIV:Operations Others Trash button, set it to 0:Normal(set center AF point)

Now the Trash button brings up the ML menu. That's fine unless you really wanted a button to center the AF point.

Is this documented somewhere?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on June 09, 2015, 09:47:06 PM
Trash is traditionally ( aka on other cameras ) used to bring up ML menu, now given that M has a limited number of buttons things get crammed in, hence you have 2 fingers touch for ML menu on M.


I think you've seen my bug report regarding Trash as ISO selector, so I think ML and Canon might fight for it a bit sometimes.


Anyway, I did get Trash to open ML menu but it was really rare, right now having it set up to centre like you said it looks like it's working as it should ( I mean it centres the focus point ).


On that note, is not easier for you too to touch the centre of the screen instead and use trash for ISO or whatever? I find the whole touch to focus much better than the traditional navigate the points with the controller way.


Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on June 09, 2015, 10:31:24 PM
I like the touch screen but I also like having options. Some of the ML submenus can only be accessed by touch. At least I haven't figured out any other way. Not complaining, but the EOS-M doesn't have many buttons to work with--then again neither do iOS and Android devices.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on June 09, 2015, 10:42:04 PM
Well yes, 1 finger touch is the missing Q button.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 10, 2015, 09:49:50 AM
For the life & sake of EOS-M -- @dmilligan saved myself from selling this tiny beast. Couldn't stand the PDR nightmares!

MLVFS sure enough got rid of the PINK DOTS and what a beauty - Thanks @dmilligan!

Not too bad for a $200 toy...

MLV shot on EOS-M w Nikkor 50 1.4 AI (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15331.msg149353#msg149353MLV%20shot%20on%20EOS-M%20w%20Nikkor%2050%201.4%20AI)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: vertigopix on June 10, 2015, 10:18:55 AM
Happy to see a lot of activity around the M !  :)
Il like this "small big one" !
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on June 10, 2015, 10:31:19 AM

For the life & sake of EOS-M -- @dmilligan saved myself from selling this tiny beast.
Umm wasn't common knowledge that PDR can be removed ? :P


I had a recent RAW clip that was showing some colour artefacts on some frames, besides PDR that is, red/blue/white pixel groups on some black parts of the image, cs5x5 and bad-pix saved the day! ;)


Now, if a1ex could defeat these 2 beasts: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/2255/mlv_sound-working-only-on-the-first-video and https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/2254/star-bbaf-during-raw-recording-crashes-ml things would be perfect :D
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 10, 2015, 10:36:55 AM
I have been aware of PDR being effective for years -- it was either the stupidity or laziness of me who couldn't get around it until I just decided to give it a shot with MLVFS because previously I had failed with other methods on Mac's (RawTheraPee, ACR Defringe, etc).

it's just a PITA for me, especially when I have my other cameras that can be ready to color grade right off the bat... Ya know?

But like you said, CS and Bad-Pix saved the day and always will be able to!  8)

Good stuff to know on your end, Thanks for sharing @Licaon_Kter and the M is only in the beginning of a great long somewhat of a career ahead! lol

*I can also confirm that MLV audio only works with first clip and not the next one unless I power off the camera as well as the star-baff crashes*
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on June 10, 2015, 10:44:52 AM
BTW during NLE work I keep it at cs2x2 for speed but before export I restart MLVFS with cs5x5/badpix/stripes/whatever is necessary.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 10, 2015, 10:46:41 AM
and it doesn't affect the quality negatively? resolution loss or some sort of?

I'll do another export and see for myself.

 ;)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on June 10, 2015, 04:04:49 PM
Now, if a1ex could defeat these 2 beasts: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/2255/mlv_sound-working-only-on-the-first-video and https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/2254/star-bbaf-during-raw-recording-crashes-ml things would be perfect :D

And once this gets resolved so we can get our nightly builds back:
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/6cf6b881dc18c84d1da70df8d2063e7b9423f92f

There are other bugs specific to the EOS-M including the infamous shutter-bug. Pitch in and help if you can.
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues?version=EOS-M

BTW--Going through the steps to reproduce the bugs is a good way to help developers and learn the capabilities and limitations of ML on this little camera.
Title: Canon EOS M used with shooter bug only Toshiba card.
Post by: peste777 on June 18, 2015, 03:19:23 PM
How know if my camera used was used with ML, my eos m have shooter bug only with Toshiba card class 10. Thanks
With sandisk class 10 is normal, and if i push the lens works with Toshiba!!!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 18, 2015, 03:31:25 PM
Install ML and you will have a screen telling you if cam's bootflag has already been set. Then wait 30 seconds and cam's bootflag will be removed.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: peste777 on June 18, 2015, 07:29:04 PM
 :D :D 8)
thanks walter!!! my two cards toshiba works perfect now after remove the flag.
this shooter bug is in some memory cards, now all works!really thanks!
I got rid of a debts.

now, i want install ML for video raw, and i see nightly verision magiclantern-Nightly.2015Apr19.EOSM202.zip
i want video raw, this version have this ¿?

I wonder  if install this need use Eoscard.exe and mark "EOS_DEVELOP" and "BOOTDISK".
or only this
"Installation
Format the card from the camera.
Make sure you are running Canon firmware 2.0.2.
Copy ML files on the card and run Firmware Update."

verry thanks for your time! and sorry my english, i from brasil.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on June 19, 2015, 02:22:54 AM

"Installation
Format the card from the camera.
Make sure you are running Canon firmware 2.0.2.
Copy ML files on the card and run Firmware Update."
This!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: maxEmpty on June 21, 2015, 03:20:02 AM
so the last 5 failed nightly's are very fixable, but a1ex wants the eos m community to fix fps.engio because it is slightly broken and causes exposure problems for some people ( me included ). that's great that he wants us to fix it but if after 2 months we haven't had any progress and removing fps.engio caused the build failures we should just put it back broken and fix it later. Buggy ML is better than no ML. Also if anyone knows how to fix fps override please do so, or if hudson is reading this please add the fps override back on to the fps override builds.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on June 21, 2015, 08:53:07 AM
The last successful build, from april 19th, works Ok, and it's not so different from current code. So it's not true that we do not have ML for the EOS-M.

And you can learn to build ML code yourself. It's not so hard (either in the cloud (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14725.0), with virtualbox (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7579.0), or using a Linux or OSX machine (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=991.0), everything is explained in the forum) and this way you can use the latest code, from "Unified" or from experimental branches, and you will be able to contribute better with the project, helping to test new features and to fix bugs.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: palacita on June 21, 2015, 09:24:24 AM
Is there any new update of the ML for EOS-M ?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on June 21, 2015, 02:15:08 PM
No, read the post immediately above yours: no new builds for EOS-M since april 19th, and until the FPS limits get fixed.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on June 21, 2015, 03:25:54 PM
I've done the work, that I could do anyway: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14959.msg149308#msg149308
Now it's up to a1ex
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: peste777 on June 21, 2015, 07:46:44 PM
I do not know what to do, already tried in every way to set this camera ,not found any way to configure.

i received this " frame skipped stopping " and video dont have 1080p resolution, I"m LOST

i need help! thanks.

i use nightly verision magiclantern-Nightly.2015Apr19.EOSM202.zip
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 21, 2015, 07:53:22 PM
SD-card interface write speed limit for EOS M: About 41 MByte/s.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on June 21, 2015, 07:54:28 PM
Are you trying to shoot raw video? You cannot shoot raw at 1080p, because SD card interface cannot write at speeds higher than 40 MB/s. RAW recording is only possible at resolutions of 720p or lower.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: peste777 on June 22, 2015, 02:11:43 AM
Thanks for this information,  720p is good, the problen is i dont configure this, is verry hard and need one help,like a manual  or simple user guild
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on June 22, 2015, 06:57:31 AM
Thanks for this information,  720p is good, the problen is i dont configure this, is verry hard and need one help,like a manual  or simple user guild
Shooting raw on the EOS-M is a bit tricky but it can be done. First of all you must be using a fast enough SD card. The camera has about a 41 MByte/s data transfer limit and uses UHS-1 cards so a really fast UHS-II won't help at all. I use SanDisk Extreme Pro UHS-I SDHC U3 Memory Card (Class 10).

The best results I've seen are with these settings:

Use Magic Lantern Video with audio (mlv_rec.mo and mlv_snd.mo modules loaded)
You have to go to the ML audio options to turn MLV Sound ON.
Note that raw_rec.mo also works but you can't record sound.
Canon movie setting 1920x1080 24fps
Movie crop mode ON
ML RAW video (MLV) ON and set to 1280x720

It is a bit confusing that the Canon movie size needs to be set up for 1920x1080 but that's the only way to record in 24fps (actually 23.98) The ML menu sets the raw video frame size.

Note that you will have to deal with the focus pixels (a.k.a. pink dot removal or PDR) in post production and if your sound is important you'll have to reboot the camera after each take because of this:
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/2255/mlv_sound-working-only-on-the-first-video

Having to shoot in Movie Crop Mode might seem strange at first. After all you bought a camera with a large sensor for the shallow depth of field but the line skipping that the EOS-M uses to record 1 megapixel (1280x720) video on an 18 megapixel sensor causes all sorts of aliasing and morié issues.

Of course there are lots of other setting that can be used. Writing up a full EOS-M raw video shooter's guide is rather futile because few people use it and users keep coming up with different configurations that work best for them.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: inxlee on June 22, 2015, 10:27:39 AM
Can I check is the current build not working properly? Read there is some issue with the shutter bug? trying to download but the download page states This Build Failed! Any hope where I can download ML and install it on my EOS M? Much appreciated guys!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 22, 2015, 10:28:51 AM
Button to the right: Show older builds.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: elmoandzoey on June 23, 2015, 05:11:12 PM
I just recently got an EOS M and want to use focus peaking for manual focusing. I was told Magic Lantern does add that feature. If so, can I just grab the April 19th built and work with that or is that one also suffering from the shutter bug?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on June 23, 2015, 06:03:24 PM

Can I check is the current build not working properly?
The most current build is April 19 and it works properly.
There are no later builds until an issue gets fixed, read posts on the previous pages.





If so, can I just grab the April 19th built and work with that or is that one also suffering from the shutter bug?
They all suffer from it, or better yet put, on certain cards they do, on some others they don't, Sandisk is the better bet.
Read here: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: inxlee on June 23, 2015, 10:07:48 PM
Thanks guys! Got it installed running without any shutter issues. Only sometimes the screen goes haywire and somethings don't show if i keep changing my settings. Btw how do I enable Raw Video? Just noticed the option isn't available in the menu.:/
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 23, 2015, 10:11:57 PM
Enable RAW/MLV in "Modules" tab
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: elmoandzoey on June 24, 2015, 08:47:01 AM
They all suffer from it, or better yet put, on certain cards they do, on some others they don't, Sandisk is the better bet.
Read here: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug

Thank you for that info. I did read that topic before but somehow got lost in it due to the sheer length. It seems that it only affects EF-M lenses? If so, I probably won't have an issue anyways because I am using EF lenses with the adapter.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on June 24, 2015, 12:27:06 PM
It only affects EF-M zoom lenses, not the EF-M 22mm F2 prime lens. And the EF-M 11-22mm usually does not show the bug if you take care to keep the lens in collapsed position during camera startup. EF or EF-S lenses used with the adapter are not affected.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Pharinen on June 26, 2015, 12:10:36 AM
Does anybody know the power requirements of EOS M(or Canon cameras in general)?

Canon's AC adapter for EOS M(CA-PS700) outputs 7.4V/2A but is meant for many other camera models as well. And I think there are quite a bit of headroom "just in case".

I found one guy's website(http://www.berndmargotte.com/technical/external_power_en.html (http://www.berndmargotte.com/technical/external_power_en.html)) who have measured power draw of Canon 20D and he came a
conclusion that around 600mA should be enough. But that is a old camera with no liveview/video functions so that doens't help that much.

I'm just thinking that could I get away with only 1A but slighty higher voltage ~8.4V.

What do you guys think? :D
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on June 26, 2015, 12:10:29 PM
See this too: http://www.eos-m.net/review-power-to-the-m-mains-power-adaptors-for-eos-m/
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: guits1 on June 29, 2015, 10:26:39 AM
How add the Audio RemoteShoot function on the EOS M (magiclantern-Nightly.2015Apr19.EOSM202)? Is it's possible?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on June 29, 2015, 04:01:53 PM
I want that too, looked at the source code but couldn't make heads or tails of where to start.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14913
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on June 30, 2015, 07:21:46 AM
How add the Audio RemoteShoot function on the EOS M (magiclantern-Nightly.2015Apr19.EOSM202)? Is it's possible?


Alright, I gave it another try and got it to work for me. I put in a pull request:
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/645/enable-feature_audio_remote_shot-on-eosm/diff

You can get this now if you are able to compile ML on your system. Otherwise you'll have to wait until the EOS-M nightly builds are unblocked. Provided of course that my pull request is accepted.

[EDIT: The pull request was merged by a1ex so the Audio RemoteShoot function on the EOS-M is now in the unified branch. It should show up in the nightly builds once it is unblocked.]
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: gmr20 on July 01, 2015, 05:54:03 AM
Is it possible to manually choose 1/3 stop of ISO when taking a photo, such as 125, 160, 250, 320?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on July 01, 2015, 07:25:54 AM
I looks like the Canon menu allows: 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, 6400, 12800
The ML menu lets you choose from: 100, 160, 200, 320, 400, 640, 800, 1250, 1600, 2500, 3200, 5000, 6400, 12800
1/3 stop ISO increments would be: 100, 125, 160, 200, 250, 320, 400, 500, 640, 800, 1000, 1250, 1600, 2500, 3200, 4000, 5000, 6400, 8000, 10000, 12800

So short answer, no but close enough. Longer answer:

You can go into the Canon menu, 4th wrench, Custom Functions(C.Fn) I:Exposure and choose between 1/3-stop and 1/2-stop increments. This will allow you to set the shutter speed and F-stop to 1/3 or 1/2 stop increments. So you can still expose to 1/3-stop accuracy if that's what you really want.

By the way, my understanding is that some of the ISO settings are interpolated, gain up or gain down, from the actual ISO and can introduce noise. In addition, when shooting raw it is best to expose as far to the right of the histogram as possible without clipping in order to record with the highest signal to noise ratio and when doing this quite often a higher ISO will exhibit less noise than a lower ISO. To make matters even more confusing the very high end cameras like the RED and Arri Alexa perform best at their "native" ISO and cinematographers go to great lengths to make sure they shoot at the optimum ISO as well as the best f-stop for lens performance and depth of field and they are pretty much limited to the shutter speed they can use so they have to make the best of it with their lighting and use of ND filters to nail their exposure--then they spend countless hours in the color grading suite getting exactly what they want.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: TheMash on July 01, 2015, 01:25:21 PM
Hi everybody!
I'm from Italy and I've just joined the forum. I'm a ML user since 2 years on a 5D II.
Recently I discovered (lately) the potential of EOS M (further improved by ML).
So I decided to buy a refurbished one with original Canon EF adapter because I've various L lenses to be used on this camera.
I'll use the M on a glidecam or on a monopod for those situations where extreme lightness and versatility is required.
Now i'm going to buy some SD cards (because I've almost CF cards) and I'm going to buy Transcend TS32GSDHC10U1 Secure Digital SDHC, 32GB Class 10 UHS-I, stated for 90mb/sec (I assume it's the reading value) because of its very good price.
I know the hardware interface on EOS M is limited on transfer rate to about 40mb/s, so I don't want to buy cards with speed that gives me no advantage in using them (and wasting money).
I'll sure record with bitrate multiplier to obtain better results.
What do you think about those cards?
Thanks!

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on July 01, 2015, 01:39:12 PM
Transcend 32 GB SDHC UHS-I cards are very prone to be affected by the shutter bug. See discussion here:

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug)

Not an issue if you use only EF lenses, but an annoying hassle when using EF-M zoom lenses.

Sandisk Extreme Pro 32 GB UHS-I 95 MB/s are a safer option, the ones we have tested do not show the shutter bug.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: TheMash on July 01, 2015, 02:11:41 PM
Hi josepvm, thanks for your prompt reply.
I'm not going to use the M with any M lens, because I don't own one and I think I'm not planning buying one of them.
I'll use it with EF L lenses exclusively.
Will the EOS-M benefit the extra speed of the sandisk for recording at higher bitrate or will be capped by SD interface speed?
Thanks again in advance.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on July 01, 2015, 08:48:25 PM
Well, I have both cards, and I have run Magic Lantern's SD benchmark with the EOS-M this evening, and there is really a significant difference in write speed: 38 MB/s max. for Sandisk Extreme Pro 32GB SDHC Class 10 UHS-I U3 95 MB/s, and only 29.9 MB/s max. for Transcend 32 GB SDHC Class 10 UHS-I U1 600x 90MB/s. Both cards are FAT32 formatted. Max. write speed is attained with a 15625 Kb buffer.

Read speeds are similar for both cards: 38.1 MB/s max. for the Sandisk card, and 37.1 MB/s max. for the Transcend card.

I have not compared both cards during real raw video recording, (I do not shoot video at all). During some tests one month ago I saw that with the Sandisk I can continuously record 1280x720 30fps RAW video in crop mode (with raw_rec or mlv_rec). I will try to test it also with the Transcend later.




Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on July 01, 2015, 09:10:07 PM
Already tested: raw video recording (either mlv_rec or raw_rec) is not possible at 1280x720 30fps with the Transcend 90MB/s card: red warning in mlv recording, skipped frames, recording stops imediately. And it works with the Sandisk Extreme PRO 95MB/s (yellow warning in mlv, because actual writing speed is ~ 38 MB/s, but it works) ... so there is really a write speed difference.

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on July 01, 2015, 11:29:02 PM
Answers here: https://rbrune.github.io/mlraw/
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: TheMash on July 02, 2015, 01:09:32 PM
Already tested: raw video recording (either mlv_rec or raw_rec) is not possible at 1280x720 30fps with the Transcend 90MB/s card: red warning in mlv recording, skipped frames, recording stops imediately. And it works with the Sandisk Extreme PRO 95MB/s (yellow warning in mlv, because actual writing speed is ~ 38 MB/s, but it works) ... so there is really a write speed difference.

Answers here: https://rbrune.github.io/mlraw/

Thanks for your taking time doing tests, I apreciated it.
The difference between cards are in flash memories and controllers for sure. Sandisk has better flashes chip and faster controller.
I chosen the Sandisk Extreme 60mb-40mb (RW)/sec, I would use them only on the M and occasionally shoot RAW (for personal projects), so I think the 95MB/sec would be a waste of performance.
Anyway, for more robust performance in RAW I've the 5D Mark II (the best would be the Mark III but I'm waiting for a possible new body from Canon, Mark IV?).
As soon as I'll receive the M from courier I'll post my feedback here.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: JosephCannavinoPhotograph on July 03, 2015, 12:04:55 AM
Something is not right.  I Downloaded and installed nightly build april19.  I can no longer access or view my firmware vers.  Two finger tap does nothing.  I am really freaked out that magic lantern is bugged and my camera is hacked.  I wish I hadn't done this.  Can anybody help?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on July 03, 2015, 12:14:40 AM
Are you starting your camera with mode dial in A+ position?. Firmware update or info is not available on A+ mode, you should use "still camera" mode.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: JosephCannavinoPhotograph on July 03, 2015, 12:29:51 AM
I was not using (A+).  This is very tragic.  I have found that I cannot access ISO, SS, or F/stop controls anymore either, (l only shoot manual).  I am freaked out this is not good.   
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on July 03, 2015, 12:43:38 AM
Remove battery, and test again. If this does not work, format the SD card on your computer, using a card reader, and put it again on camera, you should be able to start your camera normally, without ML.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: feureau on July 03, 2015, 12:46:28 PM
Btw, EOS-M nightlies have failed for the past couple-a months. Can someone have a look at it please?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 03, 2015, 12:52:17 PM
It was broken for a reason and we are waiting for a1ex to find time to review work done on this very item and convert it into code.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14959.msg150024#msg150024
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: feureau on July 04, 2015, 05:50:30 PM
Ah, I see. Thanks

Anyway, some assert logs:
Code: [Select]
ML ASSERT:
lv
at ../../src/raw.c:1690 (raw_lv_request), task shoot_task
lv:0 mode:0


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015Apr19.EOSM202
Mercurial changeset   : e08c6c0be070 (unified) tip
Built on 2015-04-18 22:08:28 UTC by [email protected]
Free Memory  : 160K + 3302K


ML ASSERT:
lv
at ../../src/raw.c:1690 (raw_lv_request), task shoot_task
lv:0 mode:0


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015Apr19.EOSM202
Mercurial changeset   : e08c6c0be070 (unified) tip
Built on 2015-04-18 22:08:28 UTC by [email protected]
Free Memory  : 160K + 3302K


ML ASSERT:
lv
at ../../src/raw.c:1690 (raw_lv_request), task shoot_task
lv:0 mode:0


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015Apr19.EOSM202
Mercurial changeset   : e08c6c0be070 (unified) tip
Built on 2015-04-18 22:08:28 UTC by [email protected]
Free Memory  : 159K + 3302K
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on July 05, 2015, 12:44:18 PM

Anyway, some assert logs:
Code: [Select]
at ../../src/raw.c:1690 (raw_lv_request), task shoot_task
Yeah the M get's plenty of those, being a LV only camera.



Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: TheMash on July 08, 2015, 03:30:15 PM
Hi guys,
I'm successfully recording in H264, with 3.0x bitrate settings. I get values of about 90-120mbps.
I've read that above 1.4x video and sound doesn't mix very well.
I've made a try and on a one minute clip everything looks fine.
What are supposed to be side effects on audio when recording with bitrates higher than 1.4x?
Strangely, I'm able to record very long clips at x3.0 bitrate and high iso (3200) on EOS M (SDHC Sandisk Extreme 32gb 60mb/s) and I had problems on my 5D Mark II at same settings instead (but with CF Sandisk Extreme 8gb 60mb/s), the recording stops when I film dark areas (I suppose the data rate increase further).
On both cameras I'm using Cinestyle PP.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: feureau on July 08, 2015, 06:53:04 PM
I was trying to shoot this timelapse and tried the intervalometer. The camera fires, and then it locks up. I thought this was the shutter bug thing but I was using the EF-M 22mm. And afterwards I can't take a picture with my EOS-M again. If I hit the shutter it will just lock up. I tried shooting without ML, and every time I hit the shutter it just locks up and I had to pull out the battery. I'll play around with it to see if I can get it fixed. I tried removing the lens with the power on but no dice.

core dump: https://mega.nz/#!uw1DgY6R!uCloB-3TsHboryD8O_8fTUvwGYiLPvlGPLrW8bDRpC8


Error log:

Code: [Select]
[9] ?: NULL PTR (80c3e100,e1a00000)
pc=    7ef4 lr=19980218 stack=17cf70+0x400
entry=ff0d0d68(0)
e1a00000 e59ff014 e59ff014 e59ff014
e59ff014 e1a00000 e59ff010 e59ff010


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015Apr19.EOSM202
Mercurial changeset   : e08c6c0be070 (unified) tip
Built on 2015-04-18 22:08:28 UTC by [email protected]
Free Memory  : 183K + 3479K
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on July 09, 2015, 12:30:04 AM
Are full res silent pictures activated in your cam? If true, to take pictures you need to use a half shutter press. A full press causes an error.
Title: [idea] Canon EOS M
Post by: vertigopix on July 09, 2015, 09:41:20 AM
Hello friends,

Is it possible to disable the touch screen of the EOS M ? (eg with an hot key...)
It can be interesting because sometime my clothes changes settings without telling me...   ;)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on July 09, 2015, 09:59:05 AM
Is there any such setting in Canon menu? If so, one should be able to find the associated property and attempt to change it.

Another option would be to block touch events (gui.h) in the button handlers (return 0 to block an event). This one shouldn't be very hard to implement (even the Lua scripting engine could handle it).
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: vertigopix on July 09, 2015, 10:14:12 AM
Pleased to read you a1ex, i hope you're okay !

Quote
Is there any such setting in Canon menu?
No... You can adjust the sensitivity (standard/sensitive) or enable/disable touch shutter.

Canon as been asked for this function by users in another forums but nothing new for now.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: feureau on July 09, 2015, 12:44:56 PM
Are full res silent pictures activated in your cam? If true, to take pictures you need to use a half shutter press. A full press causes an error.


It was not activated.

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: olliedtog on July 15, 2015, 10:49:35 PM
great thread here, soon will be uploading ML to both of my EOS M bodies. In the mean time was doing some your tube research and came across this:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?action=activate;u=57668;code=6af992ae69

4K with ML and an EOS M - Is that possible?

Any advice on this would be great

Cheers Guys
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on July 15, 2015, 11:14:37 PM
@olliedtog

Wrong link?

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?action=activate;u=57668;code=6af992ae69

I've done 4K movie files with ML and EOS-M but that was shooting timelapse on full-res raw frames so technically I started out much higher than 4K.
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: dmilligan on July 16, 2015, 03:17:10 AM
People that mention 4K are trolling for views (with the exception of time lapse stuff). It's a buzzword and it attracts clicks. All they did was upscale the footage to 4K. It is silly to call such footage 4K and it's very misleading. Effectively all they have achieved is to force youtube to compress their footage at a higher bitrate.

Personally I'd be in favor of removing such posts (or at least scrubbing references to 4K) and banning users who continue to post such nonsense. It certainly does not help drive this project forward, in fact very much the opposite, only serves to confuse users.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on July 16, 2015, 05:48:31 AM
That was olliedtog's first post and the link was wrong so nobody can follow up on it.

Glad I mentioned time lapse, hope I'm not banned--yet. Well, I did mention 4K in a General Chat topic I started about image stacking to increase resolution:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15306.msg149257#msg149257

I guess I'm still on topic here because the camera used was an EOS-M.

Straying into dangerous territory I might mention that I worked at a job where I was involved with preparing demonstration footage of an animated feature for a new wide screen UHDTV. The source material was 1968x816 and instead of re-rendering, which they could have done, they just upscaled the footage. All of this reminds me of several years ago when audio equipment manufactures were pushing 24-bit 96k audio yet some of the best sounding mixes at the time were coming out of Skywalker Sound and they were still using 16-bit 44.1k.

I like Magic Lantern because anyone can jump in and participate--of course that could be a disadvantage too.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: feureau on July 20, 2015, 09:49:04 PM
Crash log:

Code: [Select]
[9] ?: NULL PTR (80c3e100,e1a00000)
pc=    7ef4 lr=19980218 stack=17cf70+0x400
entry=ff0d0d68(0)
e1a00000 e59ff014 e59ff014 e59ff014
e59ff014 e1a00000 e59ff010 e59ff010


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015Apr19.EOSM202
Mercurial changeset   : e08c6c0be070 (unified) tip
Built on 2015-04-18 22:08:28 UTC by [email protected]
Free Memory  : 183K + 3479K

Core dump: https://mega.nz/#!PokzgYjL!bU4r80-0jGIoiJ83sB5LDK6x-U1XtuF6-ThoLKZGZC4
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on July 21, 2015, 01:33:51 AM
Pretty geeky -- hopefully a developer can help you out.

Speaking of geeky, a few of us have been trying to work on the shutter-bug issue. I'm not sure if we're getting close to a solution but we're learning a lot. Check it out:

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 21, 2015, 01:38:34 AM
@dfort:

Unfortunately, I agree with your statements "what is going on?" and I still don't know to this day how I got rid of the shutter bug. Or even if I Did or Not?

Does it matter on the card sizes or with/without EF adapter?

I don't mind getting myself back on track with the M boat to get this rolling again w you guys!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on July 21, 2015, 01:50:28 AM
@DeafEyeJedi - Earlier today I compiled a version from the dm-spy-experiments branch and it is creating some interesting logs of the boot process. I posted a download link on the bitbucket shutter-bug issue page.

Here's more info about Intercepting DebugMsg with cache hacks:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=2388.msg113154#msg113154
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: olliedtog on July 21, 2015, 12:25:29 PM
Sorry guys from the wrong link posted in a hurry so will try and dig it out again, was just surprised at saying 4k! Will be adding ML to my EOS M soon, now I have two bodies and my now full kit ready to run & gun shoot.
Am off to a car show at Santa Pod UK next weekend so will be filming as much as I can. Will post a ;ink to any clip as well.

One question is it a good idea to get a larger memory card when using ML?

Cheers Peeps and happy shooting!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 21, 2015, 12:33:39 PM
At about 40 MByte/s data rate one hour footage will sum up to about 141 GByte ...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on July 22, 2015, 03:05:31 AM
Run & gun in 4K video with an EOS-M? Don't get your hopes up. This is what dmilligan was referring to when said:
Personally I'd be in favor of removing such posts (or at least scrubbing references to 4K) and banning users who continue to post such nonsense. It certainly does not help drive this project forward, in fact very much the opposite, only serves to confuse users.

Please understand that those 4K videos you saw were all time lapse. If you found one that wasn't a time lapse it was probably just scaled up. The image stacking that I'm experimenting with is just another method of scaling up. The Magic Lanterns developers have stated that shooting 4K with the current Canon models that can run ML is physically impossible. We users should accept this.

One question is it a good idea to get a larger memory card when using ML?

Short answer: The best card to date as far as capacity, speed and is free of the EOS-M shutter-bug is the SanDisk 32GB Extreme Pro UHS-I SDHC U3 Memory Card (Class 10).

Longer answer: Are you planning on shooting raw? H.264? Time lapse using full resolution raw? Are you using EF-M zoom lenses? Do you also plan on shooting run & gun stills? All of these questions are relevant when choosing the best card for your needs. Get too big of a card when shooting H.264 and you run the chance of losing many hours of footage if the card gets corrupted. Too small of a card when shooting raw video and you quickly run out of space--see Walter Schultz's comment for a ballpark figure at the highest possible data rate for the EOS-M.

Oh and if you think raw (MLV) is the holy grail of video, the EOS-M is pretty much limited to around 1280x720 and less--not exactly 4K.

Just a reality check  :-X
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 22, 2015, 03:31:10 AM
Perfectly well said @dfort, I agree with the fact that SanDisk 32GB Extreme Pro Class 10's are mainly free from the SB and don't forget the battery life isn't so up to par especially for run n' gun type of shooting unless you want to carry around 5-6 (or more) pieces with you all day.

Don't get me wrong though I do admit that it is still a FUN little toy to own and ML is just icing on the cake for the M!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on July 22, 2015, 03:21:10 PM
Hey EOS-M users. Thought I just might report some EOS-M posts you may have missed.

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug
Quote
Finally, something significant to report.
Matthias Bretz found the key. After a few practice runs I got the Play-Button-Power-Button combination timing down and got a consistent StartupCondition : 4, 0 on all the cards. This killed the shutter-bug on the cards that exhibited the shutter-bug and the cards that didn't exhibit the shutter-bug continued to function without the shutter-bug.
So now we need help from a developer to figure out how to get this to happen every time the EOS-M is powered on:
PropMgr:ff23cfb4:81:03: StartupCondition : 4, 0

http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15550.msg151516#msg151516
Quote
@DeafEyeJedi - Good tip. The Trash button on the EOS-M is equivalent to the Del button on other cameras. I tried it out an not only does it work but the custom function assigned in the Canon menu - custom function 6 (C.Fn IV:Operation/Others Trash) also works. Well all except if the trash button is assigned to bring up the ISO menu.
Title: FPS override avchd?
Post by: Disease on July 28, 2015, 12:27:02 PM
Hi I cannot find this information anywhere.
I just want to know if the EOSM will shoot 1080p at 60fps (or more?) in normal avchd mode?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on July 28, 2015, 04:19:38 PM
Hi I cannot find this information anywhere.
I just want to know if the EOSM will shoot 1080p at 60fps (or more?) in normal avchd mode?


Nope, page 188: http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/8/0300008788/01/eosm-im-en.pdf
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Disease on July 28, 2015, 05:06:53 PM
Hi yes I know what it says in the manual but as this hack unlocks more features and has the fps over/underdrive and as you can record 60fps raw on the canon 5dMKIII I thought it might have been possible on the EOSM...
 :-[

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on July 28, 2015, 05:36:01 PM
http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/userguide#fps_override

There is a problem with the timing values to overcrank/undercrank fps on the EOS-M. Once it is fixed I don't know if the camera will be able to go all the way to 60fps at 1920x1080.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14959.0

This is an open source project so if you want to dive into the code, you're more than welcome to work on whatever is on your wish list.

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern

By the way, Canon set up the EOS-M so it can do 1280x720 at 60fps but there's a lot of aliasing in that format. I've been doing some image stacking experiments to uprez to 1920x1080 while eliminating most of those problems, though there are other issues with this technique.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15306.0
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: lloyd on July 29, 2015, 12:16:17 PM
Hello ML gurus

I'm posting here because I heard you can get 4K RAW video now? At 60 fps??
Just kidding, HAHAHA

I'm new to this and have had a read of the bit bucket and the last few pages of this thread.
Is this a fair assessment of the current situation:
Latest nightly works [functions as described in ML wiki] reliably (?) if you use the EF-M STM 22mm lens. Other lenses work too but a shutter bug exists which can lock the camera (least likely to happen if you use a SanDisk 32 GB or smaller card).

I'm a total beginner to photography but I'd like to try ML for timelapse (intervalometer or bulb ramping) and star trails (bulb mode). Reason I'm so cautious is I'd be borrowing a friend's EOS M.

Do I need to update to latest firmware?
If I get this shutter bug, is there a reliable way to permanently restore the camera? So my friend would never know I had risked the life of his little camera?

Thanks in advance if you can answer these questions! I really appreciate the work you have done to create ML!

Cheers,
Lloyd
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on July 29, 2015, 01:02:09 PM
Latest nightly works [functions as described in ML wiki] reliably (?) if you use the EF-M STM 22mm lens. Other lenses work too but a shutter bug exists which can lock the camera (least likely to happen if you use a SanDisk 32 GB or smaller card).
Yep, kinda.
Besides the latest nightly Apr 19, there's my July 01 build somewhere (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2255/mlv_sound-working-only-on-the-first-video#comment-19410615).

Do I need to update to latest firmware?
2.0.2? Yes, it fixes (most of) the focus speed, not ML related but needed.

If I get this shutter bug, is there a reliable way to permanently restore the camera? So my friend would never know I had risked the life of his little camera?
Non-ML cards don't have it, hence it won't matter to your friend.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on July 29, 2015, 05:31:02 PM
If I get this shutter bug, is there a reliable way to permanently restore the camera? So my friend would never know I had risked the life of his little camera?

Make sure you uninstall ML before returning the camera to your friend. To do this run the ML installer (firmware update) and wait 30sec to 1min (depending on which version of ML you're using) then restart the camera. You will get on screen prompts so it is pretty easy, though I need to put on reading glasses to see the tiny letters. Also, the screen might go to sleep before the timer is up so just keep counting. This will disable the camera boot flag and it will not start ML again until you re-install it.

If you read the bitbucket thread you know which Sandisk card has been the most reliable.

Finally, there are workarounds so don't be afraid of the shutter-bug!
Once the shutter-bug is gone it won't come back until the next time you power cycle the camera.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 29, 2015, 08:46:52 PM
Hello all... rather than double posting but felt this was worth noting for M users.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13512.msg151902#msg151902

It is basically about my recent experience while shooting crop-mode on the M in MLV.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: lloyd on July 31, 2015, 02:44:41 AM
Thanks very much Licaon_Kter and dfort!
Hopefully I can borrow it soon and have a go :)
Cheers
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: mapline on August 02, 2015, 09:02:08 PM
Hi
New canon m owner and would like to try magic lantern but build says failed and does not show a download.
How can I download a working build ?
Many thanks
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 02, 2015, 09:08:45 PM
Button to the right "Show Older Builds"
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: mapline on August 02, 2015, 10:53:59 PM
If I click on this button nothing happens. Right click says inspect element?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 02, 2015, 11:02:51 PM
Scroll down ...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: mapline on August 02, 2015, 11:09:12 PM
Thanks Walter found them now. Will see if ML works on my EOS M.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 02, 2015, 11:10:42 PM
Why wouldn't it?
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 03, 2015, 10:34:22 PM
Was messing around with the M last night during a Moon sighting ... came across a moment when it created a crash log afterwards.

Here's for what's worth:

Code: [Select]
Sun Aug  2 22:08:13 2015

p.s. hope someone wouldn't mind explaining to me why the crash report log file info that I copied and pasted into the code link above won't work? I must be doing something incorrectly.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on August 04, 2015, 01:01:23 AM
Did you happen be shooting the moon in MLV with audio? There's a bug that was fixed but it won't appear in the nightly builds until the fps issue is resolved and the build unblocked.

If the crash log is too big you might try putting it on a cloud drive and linking to it.

BTW--were you trying to do this (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15621.msg152060#msg152060)?
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 04, 2015, 01:26:15 AM
Well I was actually using the test build (July 24) that I received via PM from you recently so maybe I should have mentioned that in previous post, my apologies.

Anyway, Yes I remember reading that post regarding a moon-sighting with a 400L recorded in MLV which came out pretty damn nice!

To answer to your question, Yes, that's precisely what I was trying to do but this Nikkor 200 f4 AI is all I got atm for the extra reach.

Tried shooting in crop mode as well. Doesn't cut it as much as I would like.

*EDIT*

Here's the log file per your request @dfort: Crash Report (https://mega.co.nz/#!LkkngKaS!1J1n2dKtjh3Z2Kg5PFLvAWbUfJ4ysnz8Z0fxRK8ZDS8Crash Report)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on August 04, 2015, 05:11:09 AM
I just suggested a way to put up the crash log. I have no idea how to make any sense out of it. Though if you're using one of my test builds this might not even be a regular crash log.

Maybe a developer should take a look at it.

BTW--I got a Nikon 2x tele extender on ebay pretty cheap. That might do the trick for you. Love how you can adapt so many lenses so easily to the EOS-M. Nikon manual lenses on Canon bodies are a staple with stop motion animation because they don't flicker.

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: scottfrey on August 06, 2015, 05:42:46 PM
There is now a firmware update (for European models anyway) for the M3. Is this helpful?

http://www.canon-europe.com/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos_m3.aspx?type=firmware&firmwaredetailid=tcm:13-1286211
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on August 06, 2015, 06:56:55 PM
we know: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14990.25
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on August 08, 2015, 03:28:29 AM
I understand that raw video in full frame mode is sucky line-skipped 720p because this is the mode that eosm live view uses, but what happens when you plug an hdmi monitor and record raw? doesn't this change live view to 1080p? anyone tried this?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on August 08, 2015, 08:20:53 AM
Crop mode is not line-skipped.
IIRC, it does not output clean HDMI, not even EOS M3 does.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on August 08, 2015, 10:03:21 PM
I was not asking about crop mode or clean hdmi out. I found the answer to my question, which is that even though hdmi output is 1080p, raw still records from a 720p buffer (in full frame mode) even when a monitor is plugged in. this is pretty lame. There has to be a way around this.

Are there any active developers for EOSM? my guess is not. one percent  hasn't updated his fork since last December. I guess I'll start working on porting some of his changes over to the main branch like I did for 7D. The main things are that he got MLV to record audio for multiple takes without a restart needed, and he got magic zoom working without flicker in crop mode. I'll work on those first. If there is someone else who's interested in maintaining EOSM, let's talk. I guess we need to find some stubs or something to bring it current. I'll look at the last build before it broke (sometime in april, right?)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on August 08, 2015, 11:17:56 PM
The unified build supports EOS M as a main platform.

April brake is intentional, it can be fixed by hand ( edit fps-engio.c ) or by @a1ex once he gets a chance to tune the timers, see my values report in this thread: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14959.msg149308#msg149308 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14959.msg149308#msg149308)

MLV Audio works fine, did you mean this bug: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2255/mlv_sound-working-only-on-the-first-video (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2255/mlv_sound-working-only-on-the-first-video) ? Was fixed already: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/646/added-sounddevshutdownin/diff (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/646/added-sounddevshutdownin/diff)

Want the latest unified build for EOS M to test? It's here: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2255/mlv_sound-working-only-on-the-first-video#comment-19410615 (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2255/mlv_sound-working-only-on-the-first-video#comment-19410615)

I'm not sure what current means for you, current like the other unified cameras ( where there already afaik ) or current compared to what 1% was working on ?

Long standing issues for M now are the main shutter bug: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug and I guess those reported by me :) ( more or less): https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues?reported_by=~licaon_kter&status=open&status=new
Also this one is nasty too: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/1974/6d-m-700d-70d-in-live-view-mode-ml-menu
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on August 08, 2015, 11:54:18 PM
Hey thanks for bringing me up to speed, It's been months since I used unified from the main repo, I've just been running my own build because of the 1 take sound issue. I'm going to check it out right now.

As far as the menu timing out after 5 seconds, I never really thought of this as a bug... but we can fix it easily with a fake button press every four seconds if it bothers people. I think the larger issue is not being able to access ML menus when an external screen is attached. High on my list of priorities is better support for external display navigation, and also disabling touch altogether (so you can use a viewfinder/loupe on the camera screen without accidental button presses)

currently, you can long-press trash to enter ml menu, but there is no button that works as q button,

I see two solutions:

1.when ml menu is open, "info" button acts as "q" button. (currently it does nothing)
or:
2.when ml menu is open, "play" button acts as "q" button. (currently it does the same as pressing "set)

What do you think?

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on August 09, 2015, 08:32:59 AM
Now "1 finger touch" is used in place of Q in the ML menus or you mean something else?

Regarding buttons, there is one exception where M feels cramped, the Autoexpo module: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7208.msg136296#msg136296 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7208.msg136296#msg136296) you can't change some values since we don't have that extra wheel.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on August 09, 2015, 05:13:11 PM
when you plug in an external monitor, the touch screen stops working, therefore, there is no way to navigate ml menu when external monitor is attached.  Same problem if you're using a screen loupe viewfinder on the eosm screen, u have to remove the loupe to navigate, pain in the butt...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on August 09, 2015, 08:26:43 PM
Oh, right, then I'm glad somebody is able and willing to advance EOS M development.
I'll gladly test. ;)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on August 09, 2015, 11:21:15 PM
Hi @dpjpandone

Glad you're going to dig into the code. A few of us users have been making some minor contributions and the EOS-M has gotten a few updates recently.

You probably figured it out by now but here's the only change you need to make to get an EOSM build from the current unified branch:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14959.msg148768#msg148768

Also, keep an eye on the EOSM issues and pull requests in bitbucket:

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues?version=EOS-M

I'm currently on a vacation for a week but had to chime in when I heard about the good news.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on August 12, 2015, 05:04:09 AM
Hey, who removed all the resolutions from mlv module!!???  why does it jump from 1280 to 1600? when was this decision made?
And who said shutter fine tuning doesn't work? It absolutely works, point your camera at a monitor and adjust the value.....
was there stability issues with it?

Anyways, here is a thread regarding fix for alternate Q navigation: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15681.new#new
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on August 12, 2015, 07:26:05 AM
Here is a test build: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ycrof8qoxprna9k/magiclantern-Nightly.2015Aug12.EOSM202.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ycrof8qoxprna9k/magiclantern-Nightly.2015Aug12.EOSM202.zip?dl=0)

 with the following differences:

1. Play button acts as "Q" button when ml menus are open, now you can navigate without using the touchscreen (useful for external monitors)
2. Shutter Fine-tuning re-enabled (why was this disabled in the first place?)
3. MLV_Rec has 1472 and 1504 resolutions (optimal for shooting 2.39 aspect ratio on SD Card)

Next on my list:

1. fps override - let's fix this first so nightly builds will work again. Dunno if anyone has played with overcranking on other builds, but the EOSM shoots up to 45fps 1080p (crop mode, h264, low-light method) it's pretty awesome. So let's get that back working again.

2. magic zoom is useless in crop mode, we need to slow it down to stop the flicker, - this is lower on my list of priorities since I can navigate with my external monitor attached now...

what else? shutter bug? what's really going on with that, do you really believe the brand of memory card makes a difference? That doesn't make any sense to me.

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 12, 2015, 07:34:41 AM
Hey, who removed all the resolutions from mlv module!!???  why does it jump from 1280 to 1600?
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg152404#msg152404
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 12, 2015, 07:44:11 AM
Thanks @dpjpandone for the kind update on the M and will definitely test them out tonight after work.

Will report back results asap.

*cheers*
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on August 12, 2015, 08:51:26 AM
Quote
what else? shutter bug? what's really going on with that, do you really believe the brand of memory card makes a difference? That doesn't make any sense to me.

I don't know why, but that's true, some cards do not show the shutter bug. Read the possible explanations by A1ex on the related issue thread on Bitbucket.

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on August 12, 2015, 10:04:45 AM
Make sure you check out the EOSM issues on bitbucket and make pull requests for these changes.

I'm still on vacation for another couple of days but I had yet another idea for the shutter-bug issue. If you note in the firmware disassembly there is a call to reboot all the properties after a firmware update. Maybe utilizing this in the same place as a1ex used for the 7D fix?

Thanks for taking this on dpjpandone.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 13, 2015, 08:19:22 AM
@dpjpandone:

Seems that your build has failed link to the modules. Is there a workaround for this?

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5693/20505395986_0082bd6707_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xeZvQ7)

However, the playback button works great as a 'Q' -- good job on that!

*update*

If I choose 2 or 3 modules -- it works fine after restart. Seems the Deflicker and AutoExpo don't get along with others?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on August 13, 2015, 07:20:32 PM
You probably need to delete all the ml stuff from your card and then unzip the contents of the zip i posted. I'm gonna post a new build with the correct fps values for you to test later tonight.
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 13, 2015, 07:24:25 PM
You think I didn't know that?

C'mon...

I even set my cards to exFat every time I put a new nightly on it...

However, after following your directions precisely and still can't get 45 FPS to work with FPS override with crop mode hack enabled during h264 1080p recording, thoughts? It just stays at 31.xxx FPS.

Also FYI I notice the shutter nbrs were slightly off. If I set 1/30 according to canon UI then I go to ML UI which shows 1/48 which is off.

Anyway thanks and I look forward to your next update.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on August 13, 2015, 08:11:00 PM
that build doesn't have the fps changes, it's coming later, but the encoder won't record more than 34fps unless you set gop to 1, and gop controls were removed, best we can do in near future in unified is 34fps. I'll PM you some info later so you can play with higher fps. BTW, sorry the modules won't link, i didn't try autoexp to be honest...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 13, 2015, 08:18:02 PM
Gotcha no problem and no worries. Also another note worth sharing is the fact that I had to type in my admin password to allow your build to be copied over to my SD card. Could that be related to the modules not linking properly?

Doubt it...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on August 14, 2015, 03:47:15 AM
Here is today's build with fps fixed. All available settings should be stable, and remember, you can still get 34fps 1080p crop, by overcranking from 30p

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2y9lrmjv5gerjr2/magiclantern-Nightly.2015Aug13.EOSM202.zip?dl=0

please confirm, so we can get nightlies working again. test procedure described here: http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14959.25
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on August 18, 2015, 08:13:18 AM
Thanks to nikfreak, this commit reduces flicker on magic zoom in crop mode:

https://bitbucket.org/dpjpandone/magic-lantern-4/commits/5a9c265d088646d055272156a43258251bb0f0ab
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on August 19, 2015, 05:23:05 AM
Good going dpjpandone. So how do we get your work into the unified branch? It would be nice to get nightly builds working again and it looks like you worked on that too. Any progress on the shutter-bug? I'm not a developer but let me know if there's anything I can do to help push EOS-M development along.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on August 19, 2015, 06:04:10 AM
I made pull requests for the fixes, we just have to wait for them to be merged. I just ordered the 18-55 so maybe  if i start to experience the shutterbug I'll be able to help. BTW, what is your name on bitbucket? I'll add you as a reviewer on my PR's
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on August 19, 2015, 07:05:09 AM
I'm Daniel Fort (https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/) on bitbucket. My old Unix login, dfort, was taken.

Your changes aren't in the unified pull requests queue which is one of the reasons I asked how to get your work into the main branch--and eventually into the nightly builds.

I just ordered the 18-55 so maybe  if i start to experience the shutterbug I'll be able to help.

With that lens and just about any card that isn't a SanDisk 32GB Extreme Pro UHS-I SDHC U3 Memory Card (Class 10) you'll become very familiar with the shutter-bug. I've got a few cards that will guarantee it and one old and very slow 1GB Kodak card that somehow isn't affected so we know it isn't the speed of the card that's the problem. You've probably seen the issue tracker for the shutter-bug (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug) on bitbucket. Ay ya yay.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: nikfreak on August 19, 2015, 07:41:38 AM
I made pull requests for the fixes, we just have to wait for them to be merged. I just ordered the 18-55 so maybe  if i start to experience the shutterbug I'll be able to help. BTW, what is your name on bitbucket? I'll add you as a reviewer on my PR's

Check my comment over there. No need to call lv_vsync_signal twice!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on August 19, 2015, 07:06:10 PM
ok, think i fixed it, added u as reviewer, can't test till I get home
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dmilligan on August 19, 2015, 11:14:15 PM
You created a pull request against your own repository. You need to create a pull request against the unified branch of the main ML repository. If you've done it correctly, you should see your PR in this list: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on August 20, 2015, 03:00:20 AM
got it now, thanks for that!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpjpandone on August 23, 2015, 05:03:18 AM
FYI - shutter fine tuning DOES in fact work, and always has. Someone must have disabled it because they overlooked the fact that timer changes are not applied until you press record (Full Frame mode)  when in crop mode changes are applied immediately. I have submitted a pull request so that we can get this feature back in nightlies.  Thanks to DeafEyeJedi for bringing this to my attention!

EOSM is a funny little thing. It's the only camera that idles in 720p, (hence the squeezed raw video) and the only reason i can think of for doing this is that it somehow conserves battery life. After all, it's battery is about half the capacity of an lp-e8 or similar. I wonder if we can eventually find a way to trick it into staying in 1080p all the time so that we can record full frame raw video without the squeeze factor...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 23, 2015, 05:58:49 AM
I second that, Mate!

Glad we caught that and yet more to come for this little fun Toy!
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 24, 2015, 09:06:17 AM
*Fun Stuff*

Not really since it was rather difficult to see the LCD screen under the bright sun @ the Beach...  Lots of OOF's 8)

workflow as follows:

cr2hdr-r > FCPX

https://vimeo.com/137108865

https://vimeo.com/137108864

*edit*

MLVFS > FCPX (For Dual-ISO comparisons)

https://vimeo.com/137110121
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Danne on August 24, 2015, 12:32:40 PM
Are you getting 45fps in raw unsqueezed footage?
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 24, 2015, 06:55:50 PM
Seems to be if set AR to 16x9...

https://vimeo.com/137155361
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Danne on August 24, 2015, 07:29:39 PM
Nice one. Makes me hope for 48fps unsqueezed on 5D mark 3  :P.
Think I found the log issue in HDR raw folder. It affects RAW files. Thanks for reporting.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: kosmarnik on August 29, 2015, 12:18:50 PM
I'm a bit silly, but how does one record video with a manual lens (using a mechanical lens adapter)?

Silly indeed. Under Custom Functions (C.Fn), select no. 7 (C.Fn IV): Operation/Others Release Shutter w/o lens, enable.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: ac1964 on September 01, 2015, 01:24:08 PM
Hi,

This is my first post and its probably a noob question.
how is it possible to display the ML menu like it is displayed on the EOS M on the homepage
http://www.magiclantern.fm/index.html
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on September 01, 2015, 01:32:00 PM
In ML menu press Info to toggle menu design.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: ac1964 on September 01, 2015, 01:40:55 PM
In ML menu press Info to toggle menu design.
Thanks Walter,
I tried that but it doesn't change the layout to the grid format.
I'm using the last nightly build that compiled successfully, 2015April19
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on September 01, 2015, 02:00:53 PM
I meant the other Info button labeled Menu ...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: ac1964 on September 01, 2015, 02:11:10 PM
I meant the other Info button labeled Menu ...
Walter, you are a *
Thanks v much
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Kiliam on September 12, 2015, 08:04:50 PM
Hi guys.
Been using ml in eosm for about a year now. I use only the 22mm lens.
Today i was testing some ml functions and i think i broke it  :'(.
I was testing intervalometer with autofocus and manual focus ramp, when i wanted it to stop it didnt so i tried turning it off and at power on it hanged while focusing, and i had to remove the battery to turn it off again.
Now i dont have autofocus in manual modes, it works in auto mode and in the creatives modes but if i use M, Av, Tv or P it dont work. I have reseted the camera and ml settings, tested with another card and battery. No matter the camera settings AF or AF+manual.
Is there a way to try to reinstall v2.02 firmware in the camera? Dont know what else to try really.
Thanks

Edited-Reinstalled v2.02 in the machine and now life is good again. Thanks
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on September 12, 2015, 08:09:58 PM
Pressing * ( star ) in M/Tv/Av mode does focus, right?
If it does, then go to Canon menu, custom functions CFn IV 5 and I guess is in mode 1 or 3, so you need to put it in 0 or 2 ;)
( page 282 Canon big M manual )
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Kiliam on September 12, 2015, 09:01:34 PM
I tried all that settings too, i reseted the canon settings and ml settings and nothing.
Now with v2.02 reinstalled and card formated and ml reisntalled all works as it should.
Thank you for your quick reply.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on September 12, 2015, 09:26:30 PM
Did you have to reinstall the Canon firmware? Usually all that's needed to clear out your settings is on the Canon menu, 4th wrench all the way to the right, Clear settings, Clear all camera settings and/or Clear all Custom Func. (C.Fn) then on your SD card look in the ML folder > settings > and delete MAGIC.CFG.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: yalcin_savas on September 13, 2015, 01:58:53 PM
Hi all... I have two issues and I'd be glad if somebody who are familiar with these could inform me:

I was using my EOS-M in PAL setting.
Than noticed that, in 24fps setting in Canon menu, ML indicates that it is decreased from 30fps
and it shows the shutter angles I adjusted as per 30fps but not as per 24fps.
Now I use it in NTSC setting in general. When I set it 24fps in Canon menu ML shows 29.958-29.953 on the screen.
When I turn on recording or when I set 1.6 crop mode in ML menu, than ML shows 23.970-23.980 on the screen.
When 1.6 crop mode is turned on in ML menu, automatically Canon fps setting changes to 30 fps, whatever the video mode is, PAL or NTSC.

Are these normal?

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on September 13, 2015, 07:19:45 PM
During record mode or ML menu?


I ask because when NOT recording it's on 30fps no matter what setting.


Once you begin recording it will do it at the desired fps.


Maybe you can detail exactly the steps you set up and the result?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Justkeepexploring on September 13, 2015, 09:37:36 PM
I would like to thank everyone who has worked on ML for the EOS M as well as all the contributers to the discussion thus far. It's so cool to have access to all these rad features canon didn't see fit to provide for us.  I think I how the answer already but being that the last successful nightly was in April, I assume that until whatever has broken the nightly is resolved that is the most recent build we can use. Is that a correct assumption?   Also- has anyone been able to compile a more recent build for the EOS m and if so, is it much better than the April build?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on September 13, 2015, 10:52:00 PM
There are a couple of fixes/improvements in the pipline but nothing earth shattering. I guess that once a1ex comes back they'll be officially integrated too.

Any major bug encountered?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on September 14, 2015, 12:00:03 AM
Hi @Justkeepexploring

Welcome to the forum. To see exactly what has been going on with development check out the Magic Lantern section of bitbucket (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern), specifically the most recent commits to the unified branch (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/branch/unified) which is what gets pushed to the nightly builds.

Regarding the EOS-M, check out the current pull requests (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/) to see if there's anything interesting in the pipeline and the open issue (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues?version=EOS-M&status=new&status=open)s for any gotchas.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Justkeepexploring on September 15, 2015, 10:18:06 PM
@Licaon_Kter, thanks! Nope everything is working pretty nice, no major bugs here!

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Justkeepexploring on September 15, 2015, 10:19:27 PM
@dfort, thanks! I will check out these links, very helpful!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Mcpackin on September 17, 2015, 01:32:47 AM
Hello,

I have been using the build from Aug 13th and I have noticed a few things that could be normal or possibly a bug?

1. When using the MagicZoom feature in video mode once recording starts it will begin to flicker.

2. When in video mode and selecting shutter speed or aperture after a few seconds the selection will reset to shutter speed.. Is there a way to default to having the aperture selected? Is it possible to change the color of the text for which ever is selected?

3. Is there a way to show what the white balance is currently at in kelvin when in auto mode like below?

(http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/_media/beertje6.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on September 17, 2015, 10:58:18 AM
I have been using the build from Aug 13th and I have noticed a few things that could be normal or possibly a bug?
1. Fixed here ( https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/650/dpjpandone-fixes-magic-zoom-flicker-on/diff (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/650/dpjpandone-fixes-magic-zoom-flicker-on/diff) ) I guess, once a1ex pulls it anyway.
2. Canon UI does this too, not sure ML can force it otherwise. Although it would be useful to highlight it, like: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2257/selected-wheel-setting-marked (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2257/selected-wheel-setting-marked)
3. Not that I know.




Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Mcpackin on September 18, 2015, 05:55:21 AM
1. Fixed here ( https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/650/dpjpandone-fixes-magic-zoom-flicker-on/diff (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/650/dpjpandone-fixes-magic-zoom-flicker-on/diff) ) I guess, once a1ex pulls it anyway.

Is this fix not present in the Aug 13th build? Also I am experiencing the flicker when not in movie crop mode, just regular movie mode.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on September 18, 2015, 07:02:00 AM
You should ask the user that compiled it I guess.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: oli650d on September 20, 2015, 12:19:59 AM
hello or can we find a newer version than the 2015-04-19  8)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on September 20, 2015, 02:22:50 AM
There are a few test builds floating around but the best way to get the latest and greatest EOSM build is to grab the code and roll your own. It isn't really that difficult. If you are on a Windows system I just put up a tutorial that should be fairly easy to follow.

http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15845.msg154356;topicseen#msg154356

Notice that the source that I pointed to in that article has all the pending EOSM related pull requests merged in.

If you are on a Mac like me you'll need to install the free Xcode app and if you are on Linux, well that is the easiest of all to setup. There should be plenty of help in the General Development Discussion (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=25.0) section of the forum.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: neoplanta on September 22, 2015, 02:37:56 PM
Hello, i wonder if there is any way to get ML for EOS M 2? Or is it maybe someone trying to do it?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Mcpackin on September 22, 2015, 05:02:13 PM
There are a few test builds floating around but the best way to get the latest and greatest EOSM build is to grab the code and roll your own. It isn't really that difficult. If you are on a Windows system I just put up a tutorial that should be fairly easy to follow.

http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15845.msg154356;topicseen#msg154356

Notice that the source that I pointed to in that article has all the pending EOSM related pull requests merged in.

If you are on a Mac like me you'll need to install the free Xcode app and if you are on Linux, well that is the easiest of all to setup. There should be plenty of help in the General Development Discussion (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=25.0) section of the forum.

I followed the tutorial and built ML but all of the modules failed and aren't present in the menu. How do I enable modules for RAW?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on September 22, 2015, 07:08:08 PM
That's odd. Are you on Windows or Mac? Did you clone my EOSM__working branch? What is the error? Most likely it is rst2html not found but that shouldn't happen if you followed my instructions. I did update the branch this morning so you might try it again.

Code: [Select]
cd ~/magic-lantern
Code: [Select]
hg pull
Code: [Select]
hg update
I posted a couple of other tutorials showing how to set up different build environments. If one of these won't work for you try another. It doesn't really take much time to set up, I've done it many times while preparing the tutorials.

Cygwin (your best choice and you don't need the Windows specific changes for this one to work)
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15894.msg154435;topicseen#msg154435

Original MinGW (some people might prefer this but you need the Windows changes to the source code for this to work)
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15845.msg154394#msg154394

By the way, let's stay on topic (EOS-M) and continue compiling discussions in their appropriate topic.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: bohus on September 23, 2015, 07:39:10 AM
Hey there!

Been lurking for a while, and am glad to join in the conversation. I'm relatively new to ML.. only been using it for a few months. It's quickly become indispensible. I bought an EOS M exclusive;y as a guinea pig for ML, and have not regreted it.

I do have one consistent problem with the interface. I have difficulty changing the default values of some options. Let's take the FPS Override function. Turning on the mod edefaults to 2.5 fps. I'm unabl eto change that value. What buton combo do  need in order to change values lke that? (In this particular case, I also don't get the submenu that lets me adjust the Jello effect... you can guess I wanna try the slit-scan effect)

I've got ML installed on my t4i as well, and there are enough butons on there that it was easy to find how to tweak those settings, but on the EOS M, nothing I try seems to work. is there a magic button combo?

I have searched the forum for this info - sorry if its someplace super easy to locate (though the search tool doesn't like to search for the term "eos m").. I just couldn't find it.

Thanks SO MUCH for any help. I've become a huge ML fan, and am psyched to get even more out of it once I know how to make these tweaks.

Thans again!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on September 23, 2015, 04:05:35 PM
Been lurking for a while, and am glad to join in the conversation. I'm relatively new to ML.. only been using it for a few months. It's quickly become indispensible. I bought an EOS M exclusive;y as a guinea pig for ML, and have not regreted it.

Wow, your first post--welcome!

I also bought an EOS-M to try out Magic Lantern and it has worked out great.

To search for answers I use Google. For example, this gave me several hits:

Code: [Select]
site:magiclantern.fm eos-m q button
The M uses a touch screen. You probably already know that a two finger touch brings up the ML menu, as does the Trash if you hold it for about a second. To get to a submenu touch the "Q" with one finger.

You have to be quick, the menu disappears after a few seconds. That's a known issue that also affects the 6D, 700D and 70D.

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/1974/6d-m-700d-70d-in-live-view-mode-ml-menu
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Mcpackin on September 23, 2015, 04:29:58 PM
That's odd. Are you on Windows or Mac? Did you clone my EOSM__working branch? What is the error? Most likely it is rst2html not found but that shouldn't happen if you followed my instructions. I did update the branch this morning so you might try it again.

Code: [Select]
cd ~/magic-lantern
Code: [Select]
hg pull
Code: [Select]
hg update
By the way, let's stay on topic (EOS-M) and continue compiling discussions in their appropriate topic.

EDIT: I was able to build ML with all of the modules using the Cygwin guide.

BTW I am building on Windows 10 Pro 64bit using Cygwin/MinGW-w64. Thank you for all of your help!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on September 23, 2015, 04:55:05 PM
Your PM says:

I was able to build ML with the Modules with your commit for the cleaned up windows code.

Yay! Now EOS-M users don't have to wait until a1ex gets back to get the latest (unofficial) updates.

Don't worry about all the warning messages the build process spews out, unless it stops with an "Error 1" you're probably ok.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: bohus on September 23, 2015, 07:03:57 PM
@ Dfort

Thanks for the nice welcome, and the reply! of course I should have used Google to do the search for me. Duh. ;)

Id been using the touchscren to bring up ML, but it idn't occur to me to try it for getting submenus. It totally works, and I feel a little foolish for not working it out. Even using these features at their default values, I've been blown away. Now tha I can actually adjust stuff, I can already see that I'm going to be very vey busy. ;)

What kinda stinks is that ML is realy spoiling me for other cameras. I have an URSA, and yearn for the inds of thing that are in ML. There's so much processor power to spare in that camera, I've got to think that ML could really make that camera into  a powerhouse. As I've been using ML, I've wondered "where is the single camera that all these features are inspired by?" Simply amazing stuff... (I defintiely have to look into that open source 4K cinema camera where ML is going to be native. That alone is enough to inspire real interest in that 4k camera project for me).

Two questions...

I see you referencing a compile that's fairly recent. How can I check it against the version of ML that I've got installed now? Just to see where I am in the scheme of things...

Neither my t4i no the EOS M benefit from ML's advanced audio features. Just the VU meters are a lifesaver, so I'm not for a second complaining. I'm just curious whether it's a hardware limitation,  or whether it's just an area that requires more development than it's worth right now.
 

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on September 23, 2015, 07:26:43 PM
Here are the latest commits to the unified branch--that is what gets pushed out in the nightlies. Note that EOS-M nightlies are still frozen but as you can see we can work around that:

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/branch/unified

To see what is in the works check out the current pull requests:

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/

And to watch out for any bumps on the road, the bug reports--these are the new and open ones for the EOS-M:

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues?status=new&status=open&version=EOS-M

As for the advanced audio features--yes, it is a hardware limitation. The 5D mark III probably has the most features available but it is still amazing how many features made it into the EOS-M.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: A7exS on September 30, 2015, 07:24:32 PM
Hello ... is there a chance to see the new version of firmware for this camera? :)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on September 30, 2015, 07:35:43 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: nikfreak on September 30, 2015, 08:45:37 PM
 :P He's on a run, again  8)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: neoplanta on October 14, 2015, 05:11:53 PM
And for EOS M 2?  :D
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on October 14, 2015, 08:49:39 PM

And for EOS M 2?  :D
Different hardware.


Now... the M10 on the other hand :P
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: godashram on October 15, 2015, 01:25:32 AM
M2 was JUST dumped today http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15895.0

I'd assume the M10 would be similar enough to the M3, and stuck with CHDK.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Pharinen on October 24, 2015, 10:06:05 AM
Is there anyway to use your smartphone as a monitor with your EOS M?

I know of the app called "DSLR Controller" but it won't work on EOS M because of Canon have crippled remote functions of M. I was wondering could it somehow work with MHL adapter and MHL enabled phone?

If not suggest a reasonable priced "field monitor" for me, mainly to check focus. It should be rather small, under <6" preferably.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on October 24, 2015, 04:26:35 PM
Is there anyway to use your smartphone as a monitor with your EOS M?

It is done all the time on movie sets. Most devices draw from the HDMI output and transmit through a wireless network. There's a delay and it isn't cheap though. Here's just one company that makes systems:
http://teradek.com/pages/shop

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I know of the app called "DSLR Controller" but it won't work on EOS M because of Canon have crippled remote functions of M. I was wondering could it somehow work with MHL adapter and MHL enabled phone?

Interesting product (http://dslrcontroller.com/), never heard of it. Of course you already found out that the EOSM can't be controlled remotely.

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If not suggest a reasonable priced "field monitor" for me, mainly to check focus. It should be rather small, under <6" preferably.

The Frugal Filmmaker usually has some good suggestions. You can even send him email and he'll answer.
http://filmflap.blogspot.com/search?q=monitor

One gotcha is that your live view will probably be useless when you plug into the HDMI output.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: godashram on October 28, 2015, 10:13:51 PM
Is there anyway to use your smartphone as a monitor with your EOS M?

I know of the app called "DSLR Controller" but it won't work on EOS M because of Canon have crippled remote functions of M. I was wondering could it somehow work with MHL adapter and MHL enabled phone?

If not suggest a reasonable priced "field monitor" for me, mainly to check focus. It should be rather small, under <6" preferably.
have you tried canon's app?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.canon.ic.cameraconnect
i don't see the m listed, but the m2, m3 and m110 are, so it's worth a shot.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on October 28, 2015, 10:17:35 PM
M2/M3/M10 have Wi-Fi
M1 does not.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: godashram on October 28, 2015, 10:47:46 PM
M2/M3/M10 have Wi-Fi
M1 does not.

totally forgot that. never mind what I said. disregard. foot in mouth moment while trying to help.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: travisennis on October 30, 2015, 07:30:19 PM
First post here. I just acquired an EOS M and thought I would compile Magic Lantern to start playing around with it. I followed the instructions on this page

http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15894.msg154435;topicseen#msg154435

 to setup my Cygwin environment and after running make clean && make zip I get the following error.

../../src/fps-engio.c:237:6: error: #error fixme: FPS_TIMER_B_MIN and FPS_TIMER_B_MIN are plain wrong
     #error fixme: FPS_TIMER_B_MIN and FPS_TIMER_B_MIN are plain wrong
      ^
../../src/fps-engio.c:295:12: warning: 'fps_timer_b_method' defined but not used [-Wunused-variable]
 static int fps_timer_b_method = 0;
            ^
../../Makefile.filerules:23: recipe for target 'fps-engio.o' failed
make: *** [fps-engio.o] Error 1


I primarily a Java developer, so I'm not completely familiar with C development, but from looking at the code, this seems to be a directive that will always fail.

Is there not a working branch/revision for the EOSM that can compile right now?

Travis
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 30, 2015, 09:02:21 PM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16012.msg156314#msg156314

Scroll down to bottom from that post & there you will see the link...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on October 30, 2015, 10:23:03 PM
Yes, the EOSM platform is still blocked until this pull request is (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/649/fps_timer_a_min-and-fps_timer_b_min-fixed/diff) QC'd by a1ex. In the meantime you're more than welcome to use my branch:

Code: [Select]
hg clone -r EOSM__working https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: travisennis on October 31, 2015, 02:50:36 AM
Thanks, Daniel. I followed the link that DeafEyeJedi (thanks to him, too) originally gave me which pointed to your repo. I pulled it down and built that and I've been very happy with it so far. I originally had the build from April on it and found it glitchy. Your build seems much more stable.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 31, 2015, 03:08:17 AM
As expected and indeed it does work well on my M as well.

Well done, Daniel and Thanks for your hard work as always!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: tupp on November 01, 2015, 07:14:58 AM
Do we have GOP controls yet on the EOSM?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on November 01, 2015, 10:23:19 AM
Not really.
Theres that IPP/ALL-I but that's it.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: tupp on November 01, 2015, 06:29:17 PM
Thanks!  ALL-I is great!

Is this feature enabled, or does one have to compile?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on November 03, 2015, 12:47:51 AM
Looks like it has to be compiled. The notes on what needs to be done is in this topic:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15685.0

I followed dpjpandone's instructions but couldn't get it working. Maybe you can give it a try and report back?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: tupp on November 04, 2015, 03:16:44 AM
Thanks, dfort.

It appears perhaps that Licaon_Kter knows something that we don't.  The dpjpandone thread that you link indicate that there were extensive GOP and flush rate settings back in August, but dpjpandone recommended having only the choice between IPP and ALL-I.  However, Licaon_Kter seemed to imply that now there is only the choice of either IPP or ALL-I (with a locked, default flush rate), in coincidence with dpjpandone's recommendation.

Were dpjpandone's suggestions incorporated since last August, and, if so, could that be the reason why your compile attempt failed?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on November 04, 2015, 11:07:33 AM
This is the dpjpandone build: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3d6zpxnndvhxpoa/magiclantern-Nightly.2015Aug21.EOSM202.zip (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3d6zpxnndvhxpoa/magiclantern-Nightly.2015Aug21.EOSM202.zip) that has it.
Although there is a catch, but I can't find the info now, something will happen (crash?) if you switch to photo mode when enabled or something.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: tupp on November 05, 2015, 07:53:26 AM
Thanks, Licaon_Kter.

Is the "catch" the problem that is described in this passage (from the dpjpandone post in the thread linked above):
Quote from:  dpjpandone
If i recall correctly, the reason this is not included in main, is because the settings persist until you restart the camera, not only this, but the camera must be restarted with the same card (with the current implementation) in order to clear the settings, this presents a dangerous situation, as someone who isn't aware of this might remove their magic lantern card, and the GOP/flush settings don't go back to default

If so, I might keep using the "unmentionable fork" and its GOP controls, as, even though it is outdated, it doesn't seem to have this problem.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on November 05, 2015, 10:18:18 AM
Oh, you mean you want to go there (https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/). No problem looking into a developer's code, after all this is an open source project. If you want to use old builds from no longer supported forks, nobody is stopping you.

I tried adding dpjpandone's changes as he described them on his post (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15685.0) but it didn't add the video hacks options to the menu.

This is something that dpjpandone as been asking for (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13439.0) -- for over a year. It looks it just needs someone with the programming skills, motivation and most of all time to get it working in a way that won't leave the camera stuck in some sort of altered state.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: travisennis on November 05, 2015, 02:42:23 PM
dfort, I pulled down the changes your made in your repo to try to get the video hacks to work. You are on the right track. What I ended having to do in order to get it to build properly was add the following

ML_SRC_EXTRA_OBJS = \
   video_hacks.o

to the eosm's Makefile.setup.default

That brought the video_hacks.o file into the build directory and the build then successfully completed. I haven't ran the firmware from the build on my camera yet, but I'm think it should work. I haven't been messing with ML long enough yet to be confident enough to be the first one to try it.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on November 05, 2015, 04:41:59 PM
Got it, I took dpjpandone's notes literally including what is apparently a typo.

Ok--so I updated EOSM__working. If you don't feel like being a crash test dummy don't mess with video hacks. Otherwise, welcome to the bleeding edge. Note that I haven't loaded it on my camera yet but will as soon and I can get to it.

By the way if you read the very first post in this topic:

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I moved some of the great  work 1% did to get ML functioning on the EOSM for firmware 2.02 back into the main ML code base.  I'm sure its missing some features and bugs from it's TL counterpart, but if you are interested in testing ML and helping make it stable and in sync with the code for other ML cameras for all base features, please comment here and I'll do my best to port 1%s bugfixes, or to test, create issues for new bugs and attempt to solve.  IMO, the main focus is ensuring all basic ML functions work well before branching out to things like raw video.

So don't be shy to dig into his code and bring back some features. I did an EOSM code cleanup (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/657/eosm-code-cleanup/diff) that hasn't been merged yet but it is in my EOSM__working branch. In there you will find all the Tragic Lantern stubs that were either not used or removed from the ML main repository. That may give you either enough rope to hang yourself or the key to your favorite TL features.

[EDIT: News flash--a1ex just merged some pull requests including EOSM code cleanup.]
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on November 06, 2015, 03:35:17 AM
a1ex made some comments on bitbucket (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/649/fps_timer_a_min-and-fps_timer_b_min-fixed/diff) that should push the frame rate on the EOSM a bit further.

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  • 45.02 fps in 3x crop standby (available for raw recording; limited to 45 as suggested by LK)
  • 34.37 fps in 3x crop H.264 (without video hacks)
  • 31.24 in 1080p 1x (can be pushed to 33fps in H.264 if desired)
  • 62.16 fps in 720p (can probably be pushed further)
  • 31.24 fps in photo mode (no big deal here)
  • 35.96 fps in 5x zoom (available for raw recording; can be pushed further if desired)

I'm a bit busy right now to test it but if there are any users who want to see how far they can push their little camera I added it to my EOSM__working branch and also compiled it and uploaded it to my bitbucket download area (https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/downloads).
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: guiguinou on November 08, 2015, 10:34:01 PM
Hello!

I have been installing the last available built (april 2015), and i start having fun. Shutter bug is here but a power cycle solves the problem every time, so that's alright. I didn't pay attention before installing, but it looks like there is no way of doing some focus stacking on the eos M. Did I miss something in the thread? Is there any hope to see that happening?
I also got confused a little bit about what's going on in the last improvement. Mostly some video stuff right?

Anyway, thanks to the people working on the code!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: j.diazmeco on November 08, 2015, 10:57:21 PM
a1ex made some comments on bitbucket (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/649/fps_timer_a_min-and-fps_timer_b_min-fixed/diff) that should push the frame rate on the EOSM a bit further.

I'm a bit busy right now to test it but if there are any users who want to see how far they can push their little camera I added it to my EOSM__working branch and also compiled it and uploaded it to my bitbucket download area (https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/downloads).

First time here, just got a second hand M in ebay. Compiled from your branch a couple weeks ago, and now downloaded and installed that zip. I noticed smthin, now I can go in CBR further than 3.0x, I think before I could just go up to 3.0x, no more values. ¿Am I right? Anyway no matter the value, when I enable bitrate info it seems to be stuck in q+-1.
Tomorrow will try to make some tests.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on November 09, 2015, 01:08:48 AM
I keep adding what seems like interesting pull requests to my EOSM branch so at times it might exhibit some odd behavior. Of course ML in general exhibits some odd behavior. As do ML users--but I don't think there's a fix for that.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: j.diazmeco on November 09, 2015, 08:59:07 AM
I keep adding what seems like interesting pull requests to my EOSM branch so at times it might exhibit some odd behavior. Of course ML in general exhibits some odd behavior. As do ML users--but I don't think there's a fix for that.
Well, that's why I got a canon m, I'm odd...[emoji16]
Thanks for the work.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on November 11, 2015, 03:00:04 AM
A few more improvements that will benefit EOSM users are in the works but the issue that is holding up nightly builds isn't fully resolved yet. Patience.

However, for the impatient who prefer a little more excitement I decided to merge lua into my EOSM__working branch. What the heck, it is very useful and it is a module so if you don't load it you won't even know that it is there. For those that still haven't set up a Magic Lantern development system I uploaded a nightly to my bitbucket download area:

https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/downloads

Check out what you can do with it on the lua topic (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14828.0).
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: j.diazmeco on November 11, 2015, 04:06:11 PM
A few more improvements that will benefit EOSM users are in the works but the issue that is holding up nightly builds isn't fully resolved yet. Patience.

However, for the impatient who prefer a little more excitement I decided to merge lua into my EOSM__working branch. What the heck, it is very useful and it is a module so if you don't load it you won't even know that it is there. For those that still haven't set up a Magic Lantern development system I uploaded a nightly to my bitbucket download area:

https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/downloads

Check out what you can do with it on the lua topic (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14828.0).
Thanks! I will build it later and give it a look!!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: alvinlok on November 29, 2015, 11:48:43 PM
Is it impossible to develop a magic lantern firmware for EOS M2? :-[
I really want to have the peak focus function on EOS M2 as it helps a lot in focusing when using manual focusing lens
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on November 30, 2015, 02:07:28 AM
Is it impossible to develop a magic lantern firmware for EOS M2? :-[

Not impossible. It is being discussed in the EOS-M2 topic:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15895.0

I doubt that a developer picked it up yet but there is still a glimmer of hope--thought the "official" response is something like, "Don't hold your breath."
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on December 04, 2015, 12:44:25 AM
I recently was introduced to the  "Auto adjust Kelvin + G/M" tool by Danne while doing some testing on his new MLV workflow. This is such a valuable tool and we should be using it more often. Basically the way Canon tells you to do a custom white balance is by shooting a still of a white or grey card then using that captured image to set the white balance. Those steps might make sense if you have a mirror flipping in front of your camera's sensor but since the EOS-M is mirrorless there shouldn't be a need to capture a still that you're going to throw away, especially if you shooting in crop movie mode.

Ok--so what I did was to make an extra copy of the "Auto adjust Kelvin + G/M" tool in the main shooting menu to make it more accessible. I put it in my EOSM__working branch that you can build from source via bitbucket (https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/branch/EOSM__working) or download (https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/downloads). I also made a pull request (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/673/auto-adjust-kelvin-g-m-tool-in-the-main/diff) so you can comment on it.

Here's how it works. The tool actually a submenu under White Balance in the Shooting Menu.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/578/23327690841_51cc33bb3d.jpg)

This makes it a bit difficult to get to with the EOS-M so I put an extra copy in the main shooting menu.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/603/22875195543_843444194e.jpg)

Aim at a white or grey card and it will sample the center 200 pixels to adjust the white balance in both the amber, blue and magenta green.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5703/23042264749_08fc427442.jpg)

That's an Xrite Color Checker Passport though there are other options (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15915.0). Don't worry about focus, just make sure it is in the center.

By the way, all professional camcorders have a button dedicated to doing this--the EOS-M has a lack of buttons but this makes it much easier. No more excuses for not taking the time to set white balance before shooting!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 04, 2015, 04:50:39 AM
Seriously now this feels like a Canon Porn site and digging 'em BIG time ... LOVE IT and thanks for sharing @dfort!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on December 04, 2015, 04:58:15 AM
Still a work in progress. Fun experimenting on this little camera.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16283

Did some changes - I updated the White Balance button assignment so it triggers "Auto adjust Kelvin + G/M" instead of incrementing the color temperature.

[EDIT: That broke something so I'm going back to the cluttering up the Expo menu. Note that you can also set up a custom menu but this is the way I've got my camera setup for now. Keep an eye on the pull request for the latest on what is going on with this.

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/673/auto-adjust-kelvin-g-m-tool-in-the-main/diff ]
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: alias on December 12, 2015, 10:39:01 PM
how i can downloaded this????
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on December 12, 2015, 10:45:17 PM
Reading first post of this thread might help. Use "Show older builds" to get last successful build.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on December 12, 2015, 10:50:14 PM
how i can downloaded this????

If you are referring to my experimental build with the white balance hack, you can find it here:

https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/downloads

This is where I share my working version and it contains stuff that hasn't been merged yet so caveat emptor!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on December 21, 2015, 12:50:17 AM
 8) :o

Latest Build
magiclantern-Nightly.2015Dec21.EOSM202.zip
Built on: 2015-12-21 01:07:56 +0200
Changeset: c897f3f (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/branch/unified)

GOGOGO: http://builds.magiclantern.fm/ (http://builds.magiclantern.fm/)


Thx @a1ex, @dfort, @dpjpandone and everyone else.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on December 21, 2015, 01:44:19 AM
Yay!

Thanks @Licaon_Kter for running through all those batteries in order to create the data needed to make this happen.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: tupp on December 21, 2015, 07:26:43 AM
Keep up the great work!!!

Thanks!
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 21, 2015, 07:27:01 AM
Merry Christmas to @Licaon_Kter for your excellent work as always as well as to everyone else on board for bringing magic back to the M.

Feels good to finally take out the little M from my kit bag and will definitely do a test run with the latest ML on it once again!

[emoji319]
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on December 21, 2015, 08:14:24 AM
I'm looking for feedback about FPS override changes.

In particular, set FPS override to max (65 fps) and try all available modes. You should get the following figures:

Quote
* 45.02 fps in 3x crop standby (available for raw recording; limited to 45 as suggested by LK)
* 34.37 fps in 3x crop H.264 (without video hacks)
* 31.24 in 1080p 1x (can be pushed to 33fps in H.264 if desired)
* 62.16 fps in 720p (can probably be pushed further)
* 31.24 fps in photo mode (no big deal here)
* 35.96 fps in 5x zoom (available for raw recording; can be pushed further if desired)

And, of course, you should not get garbled images in any video mode.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on December 22, 2015, 11:27:01 AM
Many thanks to A1ex, Licaon_Kter, dfort, and dpjpandone for your efforts to improve ML for the EOS M, and making possible this new nightly build !

I do not shoot video, but I'm glad to see that an old issue with A-ETTR present in previous builds for EOS-M seems fixed now.

ETTR worked in previous versions, but the "ETTR ..." on-screen message during exposure adjust locked and did not dissapear until I pressed the shutter button.  So I needed to look at ETTR hint in RAW histobar to know if A-ETTR had already fiinished calculation or not. With the new build, this issue is gone, A-ETTR works fine.


Thanks again !

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on December 22, 2015, 03:00:43 PM
 
I do not shoot video, but I'm glad to see that an old issue with A-ETTR present in previous builds for EOS-M seems fixed now.
Not sure I saw that before, but I'm glad it's fixed. :)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Spooke on December 26, 2015, 12:53:46 PM
Is anyone here using a Wi-Fi SD card with their EOS M? Please could someone recommend me one, I'd really like to be able to transfer RAW to my phone and edit in Snapseed (supports RAW). Thanks!!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on December 26, 2015, 03:01:00 PM
AFAIk their (mostly) not supported by ML anyway: https://www.google.com/search?q=magic+lantern+wi-fi+card+site:www.magiclantern.fm
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on December 26, 2015, 03:04:06 PM
Eye-Fi X2 won't work but according to a1ex Transcend card may have not that problem.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16249.msg157683#msg157683
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on December 26, 2015, 03:50:16 PM
Yeah, but the speed is meh.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: maxEmpty on December 28, 2015, 08:14:11 AM
OMFG a1ex, Licaon_Kter, dfort, and dpjandone for making this update possible, it took 9 months but it was the best christmas present i could have gotten from a bunch of people i have never met. you are all angels to me now and i hope you have the happiest holiday season ever!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Steve_FR on December 29, 2015, 01:45:49 AM
magiclantern-Nightly.2015Dec21.EOSM202

Ran the following FPS tests. Max user selectable FPS topped at 70. Tests run at both 65 and 70, no change between them.
Resulting displayed fps results:

[email protected] (no crop mode)
Actual fps: 31.237
Lowest shutter I can select is 1/34.85. The next step after that results in flashing video with horizontal pink bands, and a shutter speed of 0" -6 degrees.
Highest selectable shutter speed: 1/8791, 1 degree.

[email protected] (no crop mode)
Actual fps: 31.237
Lowest clean shutter: 1/34.85. Next step also results in flashing video with horizontal pink bands, and a shutter speed of 0" -6 degrees.
Highest selectable shutter speed: 1/8791, 1 degree.

[email protected] (no crop mode)
Actual fps: 31.237
At this setting, I was unable to reduce my shutter below 1/68.91 @ 163 degrees. Shutter speed idled between 1/68.83 and 1/68.91.

[email protected] fps (Movie Crop Mode)
Actual fps: 45.022
Lowest clean shutter: 1/52.81. idles to 1/52.86. Next step, shutter 0" -162 degrees. Flashing video with horizontal pink lines.

[email protected] fps (Movie Crop Mode)
Actual fps: 45.022
Lowest clean shutter:1/92.54 idles to 1/92.68. Next step, 0" -293 degrees. Flashing video with horizontal pink lines.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on December 29, 2015, 08:46:43 AM
Ouch - that doesn't sound good.

Do the artifacts go away if you increase Timer B?

If yes, can you find the safe limit for this timer in each video mode? (that is, the lowest value for Timer B where all shutter speeds work)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Steve_FR on December 30, 2015, 08:48:10 PM
Yes, artifacts begin to disappear as the Timer B is increased.  Below are the lowest safe limits I could find that keep the maximum shutter speed below 1/4000. At the high shutter speeds, there is still an alternating variance that occurs, causing the video to rapidly flutter between  exposure levels. It is not noticable at low shutter speeds, as the variance is 0.02. At shutter speeds in excess of 1/3000, the variance is over 1/200.

1920x1080 @ 30 fps (Canon Menu)
Desired FPS: 65 (from 30)
Actual fps: 30.389

FPS Timer A 520 -8 (no user change was made)
Fps Timer B 2025 (FT+55)

Shutter min 1/33.79
Shutter max 1/3619.80 and 3846.20 (idle variance)



1920x1080 @ 24 fps (Canon Menu)
Desired FPS: 65 (from 30)
Actual fps: 30.389
Fps Timer A 520 -8 (no user change was made)
Fps TImer B 2025 (FT+55)

Shutter min: 1/33.79
Shutter max: 1/3619.80 and 3846.20 (idle variance)


1280x720 @ 60 fps (Canon Menu)
Desired FPS: 65 (from 30)
Actual fps: 30.389
Fps Timer A 520 -8 (no user change was made)
Fps Timer B 2025 (FT+55)

shutter min: 1/64.84
Shutter max: 1/3619.80 and 3846.20 (idle variance)

ML FPS Override menu still displays "From 30" even when resolution is set to 1280x720 @ 60 fps in the canon menu, maximum actual FPS idles at 30.389.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on December 30, 2015, 09:43:32 PM

ML FPS Override menu still displays "From 30" even when resolution is set to 1280x720 @ 60 fps in the canon menu, maximum actual FPS idles at 30.389.
IIRC, the fps will change once RECording starts, the menu is at 30 always.

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Steve_FR on December 31, 2015, 03:49:24 AM
Follow up for ML Movie Crop Mode timer values:

1920x1080 @ 30 fps (ML Movie Crop Mode)

Desired FPS: 65
Actual fps: 30.720

FPS Timer A: 532 (FT-8)
FPS Timer B: 1958 (FT+622)

Shutter min: 1/34.18
Shutter max: 1/3538.20 and 1/3759.40 (idle variance)


1920x1080 @ 24 FPS (ML Movie Crop Mode)

Desired FPS: 65
Actual fps: 24.581

FPS Timer A: 532 FT-8
FPS Timer B: 2447 (FT+1111)

Shutter min: 1/34.16
Shutter max: 1/3538.20 and 1/3759.40 (idle variance)

Side note: While testing FPS Timer B values above FT+1120, ML interface froze and I was unable to shut the camera off. I ejected the battery, and the problem occurred again. After quickly accessing ML menu and lowering Timer B, the problem did not happen again. I attempted to reproduce, but was unable to get it to happen a third time.

@Licaon_Kter You were right about the FPS, thank you!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: musicmanx on January 04, 2016, 01:12:23 PM
hi,
but the max resolution for record in raw 25p whit the m1 ??

Thanks

Alessio
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 04, 2016, 03:46:11 PM
At 24 fps I get 1280x720 infinite runtime.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: musicmanx on January 05, 2016, 08:12:28 AM
thanks
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: yt2 on January 07, 2016, 01:59:18 PM
Hi guys!
I'm having problems when I'm recording H264 video. The video turns to black after few minutes although the time indicator is still counting. This happens randomly (sometimes 3mins sometimes 15min) . I've tried with both ML and Canon interface, with different sd cards,another lens, different batteries but the problem still exists. I 've noticed weird colors (pink mostly) on lcd. I was using magiclantern-Nightly.2015Dec21.EOSM202 with 2.0.2 firmware. I've also re-updated 2.0.2 firmware with EOS Utility. It didn't worked. I have recorded a short session with another camera, you can download two small video files (around 5mb) from here : http://we.tl/pIBOem6yDS

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 07, 2016, 04:03:59 PM


I'm having problems when I'm recording H264 video.
Maybe report it here: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: yt2 on January 07, 2016, 05:25:32 PM
Thanks, I reported it but I could not find %1 on the assignee list so I choose a1ex.

Issue #2445
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2445/black-video-after-a-few-minutes-of
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 07, 2016, 07:41:17 PM
Have you actually tried to reset ML settings yet, @yt2?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: yt2 on January 07, 2016, 09:59:59 PM
Yes, same issue. 
The Canon firmware is missing these items in the menu: (even without a card in the camera)
-certification logo display
-copyright information
-firmware version

I know it sounds weird but is it possible that ML messed with canon firmware?
I have been told "If this happens without a ML card then it's a hardware issue" in bitbucket.
It is getting strange.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 07, 2016, 10:52:07 PM

The Canon firmware is missing these items in the menu: (even without a card in the camera)
Remember that Canon Menu has _all_ the items only in M(anual) mode only ;)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: mshirani on January 08, 2016, 08:25:26 AM
Responding to the FPS override changes:
(http://i.imgur.com/g4cWrvV.jpg?1)
At  45.02 fps in 3x crop, horizontal pink lines are visible. I think this is because of changing shutter speed. it showed 0" when I was testing different shutters.
Also at 720p in no crop mode, maximum fps is 31.23.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 08, 2016, 08:54:31 AM
Did you try turning off camera and back on?

In my case, the HPL went away after reboot.

Is this normal?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 09, 2016, 07:31:15 AM
Wow, 182 downloads of my EOSM 1280x720 crop-mode video focus pixel file?

I just did some cleanup work on it and posted a new version. Nothing major but if some stray dots are showing up this new version should take care of it.

More info about focus pixels at this topic:
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16054.0

Download the new focus pixel file here:
https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/downloads
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 09, 2016, 05:42:56 PM
Eye-Fi revisited:
Eye-Fi Mobi 8GB working with Magic Lantern and EOS 650D, installation and all. But as mentioned above: Slow, very slow. About 15.5 MByte/s write and 18.3 MByte/s read. Haven't tested transfer speed via WiFi yet.
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 09, 2016, 06:40:14 PM
Seriously that's better than what it used be and could you confirm which version is this ... either the Mobi Pro or Mobi Pro X2?

Curious of the transfer speed for snapping photos!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 09, 2016, 06:51:46 PM
None of those. It's the orange "Mobi" (no suffix) to the right. http://www.eyefi.com/buy-now
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 09, 2016, 07:10:25 PM
So the $30 versions won't be any "faster" than these two mentioned which costs usually between $70-90?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 09, 2016, 07:18:52 PM
I have done a single test with single card and don't know what you are talking about.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 09, 2016, 07:27:54 PM
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/09/2903425562ae42f0c74d502c460180c2.jpg)

This is the new model version that I'm assuming you just got.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/09/2ef76cae4d7a50771be2f4b7b7c95248.jpg)

This is the older version although it's 16GB.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/09/84ef6b71b20a44a5e23587c8cd0dc34a.jpg)

The newer version of the 16GB is literally half the price?

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/09/5c53b59f68ff6e589877f4a968a8a5ce.jpg)

Now here comes my question ... Is this by any chance any quicker for about $20 more than the one above?

*Sorry guys for the off-topic*
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 09, 2016, 07:32:53 PM
Again: I tested one single card (the first one on your list). How on earth should I know the performance/compatibility of the other ones?
And the "Pro X2" is not the older version, I think. There is a "Connect X2".
And prices for out-of-stock/out-of-production items are sometimes weird und not to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 09, 2016, 07:39:37 PM
Gotcha Walter and I'll figure it out on my own.

Again thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Bobe on January 09, 2016, 10:36:35 PM
http://img.plici.ro/images/2016/01/09/Untitled7926b.png
hi guys in mlv_rec i got this issue but in raw video work perfect.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 09, 2016, 10:45:00 PM
MLRAWViewer (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_4_3_win32.zip) has the same issue?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Bobe on January 09, 2016, 10:49:40 PM
yap + MLVViewSharp
crop mode http://img.plici.ro/images/2016/01/09/Untitled244518.png
i try diferit shuter speed + diferit frame rate 24/30. :|
i use magiclantern-Nightly.2015Dec21.EOSM202.zip
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 09, 2016, 11:04:12 PM
What kind of memory card do you use @Bobe?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Bobe on January 09, 2016, 11:05:48 PM
Lexar 32Gb 633x 95/MB/s u3 I
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 09, 2016, 11:07:24 PM
Have you tried setting it into exFAT from card reader on your computer first?

 and if so be sure to enable 'exFAT' within MLV advance menu in ML settings.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Bobe on January 09, 2016, 11:14:05 PM
http://img.plici.ro/image/vTs
is fine here :|
i go format and reinstall ML BRB
rec not stop, just when shooting stripes on eos m display. in raw viwer i see the issue. When filming everything seems ok

sry for bad eng
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Bobe on January 10, 2016, 12:16:15 AM
the problem has not disappeared, I tried another resolution and sound off :(
(http://img.plici.ro/images/2016/01/10/Untitled3c4423.md.png) (http://img.plici.ro/image/vuW)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Bobe on January 10, 2016, 12:37:10 AM
same magiclantern-Nightly.2015Dec04.EOSM202 :( I think it's something bad on camera hardware :/
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 10, 2016, 05:19:34 AM
Upload a original MLV of that file if possible?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Bobe on January 10, 2016, 08:35:21 AM
https://mega.nz/#!YlAHGTjI!5htKdhxVOGZdV088WwQcWZ5vkstCo1l1NFt5OZ5crB8
same bad lines whit other ML vers magiclantern-Nightly.2015Apr19.EOSM202.zip
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 10, 2016, 10:34:49 AM
@bobe: Bad frames, I guess the card can't keep up or other hardware issue.

Lexar 32Gb 633x 95/MB/s u3 - advertised speeds don't matter in general, true speeds matter, now the EOS-M can't do more than 40Mb/s anyway, no matter the card.

Try to benchmark the card: Start H.264 ( normal) video recording an then go to ML menu -> Debug -> Benchmark -> Card R/W, wait for it to finish and take a pic of the results.


Although that resolution should be low enough to not pose transfer issue, hmmmm.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: musicmanx on January 10, 2016, 12:04:59 PM
hi,
i'm new in eos m  ( i am a user of magic lantern in mark 3 )
i have a problem whit the RAW File

there ara many many pink noise.
can you help me ??

https://www.dropbox.com/s/v1y69wzz2cxv1o2/M10-1135_C0000_00008.jpg?dl=0
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Bobe on January 10, 2016, 12:46:04 PM
FIX i change the frame rate in canon menu 1920x1080 30fps to24fps  and fps overwrite 24fps the issue gone :) i rec mlv 411.4 sec. clean.
who want try this issue put camera in 1920x1080 30fps and record in mlv 1280x432 @ 30fps.
the issue not fix in 20-31 fps range overwrite in ml menu, she gone afther i change the video setings in canon menu 30fps top 24fps.

Sry for Bad ENG.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 10, 2016, 01:48:01 PM

i have a problem whit the RAW File
there ara many many pink noise.
Look around here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=54.0 for the word pink.


Also, your RAW program (which one do you use?) should have something that handles that.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 10, 2016, 02:36:29 PM
i'm new in eos m  ( i am a user of magic lantern in mark 3 )
...
there ara many many pink noise.

I'm a new 5D3 user but have been using the EOS-M for a while.

What you are seeing are the dreaded "Pink Dots" though they show up in other colors too but mainly green and magenta. They are most likely caused by the focusing system used by certain cameras like the 100D, 650D, 700D and EOSM.

You can either try chroma smoothing or if the program you are using has it, Focus Dots suppression--MLV Producer for Windows (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15271.0) has it.

Here's more than you will ever want to know about that "pink noise": http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16054.0
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: musicmanx on January 10, 2016, 03:04:54 PM
Quote
Also, your RAW program (which one do you use?) should have something that handles that

thanks for your answer

i' susing RAW MAGIC but there isn't a fixed problem.
a program for mac thet fix the problem ??
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 10, 2016, 03:20:51 PM

a program for mac thet fix the problem ??
RawMagic can not discussed here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13335.0 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13335.0)

See here for other apps that you can use: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=54.0 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=54.0)
MLVFS for Mac/Linux
MLP for Mac


Also MlRawViewer is kinda old, if it works ok if not the developer did not update it in a while.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: musicmanx on January 10, 2016, 03:25:42 PM
Thank you  ;)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 14, 2016, 02:26:10 PM
Strange, I just checked the Nightly Builds (https://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/) and it looks like the only platform that hasn't been updated is the EOSM. Ironically, the latest changeset (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/ca5315a3b586931c1b58b9e72fbed6b96d558d6f) fixes an exposure compensation limits issue on the EOSM.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 14, 2016, 03:06:08 PM
For overview ask Jenkins: https://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/
And you are right. Don't know why.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 14, 2016, 05:06:58 PM
Thanks for verifying Walter. Looks like there are some other platforms that either didn't get built or are broken but we're only interested in the EOSM here.  8)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 14, 2016, 07:25:38 PM
EOSM is not broken, it builds fine, Jenkins did not even try to build it yet.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dmilligan on January 14, 2016, 07:48:06 PM
Looks like something didn't quite get pushed to the repo in time last night (some cameras got it, some didn't, I guess the EOSM ran first):

EOSM Build:
Code: [Select]
Started on Jan 14, 2016 12:07:49 AM
Polling SCM changes on master
[workspace] $ hg pull --rev unified
pulling from https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/
no changes found
[workspace] $ hg log --rev unified --template {node}
[workspace] $ hg log --rev unified --template {rev}
Done. Took 2.7 sec
No changes

60D Build:
Code: [Select]
Started on Jan 14, 2016 12:14:49 AM
Polling SCM changes on master
[workspace] $ hg pull --rev unified
pulling from https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/
searching for changes
adding changesets
adding manifests
adding file changes
added 2 changesets with 2 changes to 2 files
(run 'hg update' to get a working copy)
[workspace] $ hg log --rev unified --template {node}
[workspace] $ hg log --rev unified --template {rev}
[workspace] $ hg status --rev f87b7594be9cd50b31226819f646c596f2e05348 --rev ca5315a3b586931c1b58b9e72fbed6b96d558d6f
Dependent changes detected
Done. Took 2.9 sec
Changes found


Should get updated tonight though, so just be patient ;)

1100D and 600D are disabled because: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15360.msg160341#msg160341
5D3.123 has to be merged (it's in a separate branch).
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 15, 2016, 06:39:11 PM
New EOSM nightly is ready.

https://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/

The update includes an exposure compensation limits fix (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2447/exposure-compensation-stuck-cant-be) for the EOSM and it also fixes a bug in mlv_rec.mo that is key to automating focus pixel removal. There's still lots to do with focus pixels (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16054) but the research is being carried out on the EOSM.

By the way, I took down the custom EOSM build from my bitbucket download area because all my pull requests have been merged except for the EZ White Balance which I can't get working yet. I also took out Video Hacks which I never figured out. I'm currently using the standard unified branch which is available from the nightly downloads page.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: mshirani on January 18, 2016, 11:03:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/rcuDqov.jpg?2)
I tried to shoot time lapse in 3x crop mode. But the files are posterized. I don't know if the dng files are corrupted or another issue.
 Settings: Basic silent picture in Video crop mode. FPS override. Shooting interval : 30 Seconds. Magiclantern-Nightly.2016Jan15.EOSM202
Sample DNG file :https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5vPhFcWMEVic1l4SmJ1ZW9VWEk/view?pref=2&pli=1 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5vPhFcWMEVic1l4SmJ1ZW9VWEk/view?pref=2&pli=1)

Also sometimes intervalometer stops after the first picture in Full Silent Picture mode. The only fix that I know is to remove the battery and try again
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 19, 2016, 12:18:33 AM
Also sometimes intervalometer stops after the first picture in Full Silent Picture mode. The only fix that I know is to remove the battery and try again
Use "leave menu" as trigger.

You need a "Picture review" time (not off) in Canon menu set up.

The camera is/might not be stopped, it just waits for your input (buttons?) since, I believe, you did not set up a review time.

What are your power saving settings? Be aware of this bug: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2265/turn-off-lcd-enabled-stops-intervalometer

Do upload the (a shorter) MLV with your issue.

Does it happen when saving as DNG (instead of MLV) in camera?

Tried any other program for MLV ? ( MLVFS? MLP for Mac? MLVProducer? )
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: mshirani on January 19, 2016, 07:26:25 AM
Thanks for the reply.
The problem was the bug since I used the settings that you mentioned.

About the video, it was MLV. I tried recording again it was working without a problem. I think the file somehow corrupted.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Justinliv5 on January 25, 2016, 09:59:41 PM
Why is there no audio tab in the newer builds?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 25, 2016, 10:20:30 PM

Why is there no audio tab in the newer builds?
There was never one in the first place. See:  http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/features ?
Be careful not to confuse it with the MLV_SND module option.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: mapline on January 26, 2016, 05:11:53 PM
Hi
Tried  magic lantern and getting along well. Thanks so much for all the hard work.
Just a query if I may?
Like the use Prefs>Powersave in LiveView>Use shortcut key>INFO = Blank LCD screen.
However this stops the menu to change to AV/ TV/M etc unless it is changed back. Am I correct or is there another way?
Would be great INFO key could be like TRASH key short click one action hold ML menu. Don’t know if the INFO key could be like that ie click blank screen/hold choice of camera setting?
Many thanks Michael
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 26, 2016, 06:36:15 PM
Not so many buttons on the M unfortunately.


Use a lower timer in Turn LCD off maybe?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: mapline on January 26, 2016, 11:44:05 PM
Hi Licaon_Kter
Thanks for reply which I take it is NO to all possible amendments.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: donmarkon on February 06, 2016, 11:05:43 PM
Hello! Im new here and i have problem. Got EOS M and i did try to install ML but ... install goes fine, it says restart camera and back up ... i do that and then when i turn on camera there is nothing ... everythign is normal. I did try to flash Canon FW 2.0.2 again just in case and then ML and still nothing ... And help would be good. Thanks
EDIT
I figured it out :D
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: StopGap on February 12, 2016, 05:24:43 AM
I've got a similar problem to what donmarkon describes.

I've been thru the process about 4 times now and the result is the same - everything goes fine, but when I touch the screen with 2 fingers, I can a message screen, which has something like "Magic Lantern - Development version for test purposes". It remains on screen for a few seconds, flickers a little, then nothing - ie back to normal screen.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on February 12, 2016, 12:20:04 PM
just press any button when the message is on screen ;)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: StopGap on February 12, 2016, 01:53:57 PM
I feel like a dick - I'm sure I tried that earlier and nothing happened - particularly Delete. In any case, it's working now. Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on February 12, 2016, 06:42:05 PM

I feel like a dick - I'm sure I tried that earlier and nothing happened - particularly Delete. In any case, it's working now. Thanks.
It will be fixed in the next build: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/2a1f972cdbd87e77059539622fd4308618fa9ae6 (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/2a1f972cdbd87e77059539622fd4308618fa9ae6)


Done, all builds after Feb 13 have a little helpful text ;)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: keel on February 21, 2016, 04:14:03 PM
Hey Guys, I am new here, and a little late to the party.

I installed the latest build on the eos-m, strictly for the raw video.

My liveview is lagging severely.
I thought maybe when I imported the video it might be okay, but the video is lagging as well.
Can someone help me to understand the issue? Is the shutter/frame rate not writing fast enough to the card? Or is it set very low and I am not noticing?
I am using cropmode, and i assumed it was the telephoto effect (stabilization) but the video is lagging so badly, it seems like the frame rate is extremely slow.

sidenote- can i make the ML menu appear for longer, i barely have a moment to read before it disappears.

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on February 21, 2016, 05:44:51 PM
Can someone help me to understand the issue? Is the shutter/frame rate not writing fast enough to the card? Or is it set very low and I am not noticing?
I am using cropmode, and i assumed it was the telephoto effect (stabilization) but the video is lagging so badly, it seems like the frame rate is extremely slow.

It seems like you probably have FPS override turned on and set at a low setting. Some more information might help. Are you using MLV or RAW? What other modules do you have turned on?

sidenote- can i make the ML menu appear for longer, i barely have a moment to read before it disappears.

That's been an issue (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/1974/6d-m-700d-70d-in-live-view-mode-ml-menu) on the EOSM and a few other cameras for a while. The developers have tried several times to fix it.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on February 21, 2016, 07:01:00 PM

My liveview is lagging severely.
I thought maybe when I imported the video it might be okay, but the video is lagging as well.
Do detail your settings, fps, size, etc.
What SD card?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: keel on February 23, 2016, 03:49:25 PM
the issue was the fps defaulting to a low number, once i adjusted it the issue went away. Feeling a little stupid, but very happy that first hurdle has been cleared. Thanks !
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Dollar on February 27, 2016, 10:07:31 AM
Hi guys
Im new & have some problem
for the first time i tried to install latest Ml on my eos M
After format in low level & uzip files to root and update firmware for ML

it shows all command and restart camera command , when i restart camera nothing happened
default canon firmware running then i uninstall ML & install canon firmware then again install Ml but it running on canon firmware not Ml
Camera Boot with canon default not ML
what is problem

thanks
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 27, 2016, 10:19:03 AM
Read replies #923-925
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 27, 2016, 05:46:17 PM
Tap w two fingers on touchscreen OR press and hold the trash button for abt 2 seconds...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Dollar on February 27, 2016, 06:32:00 PM
Many Thanks  Walter Schulz & DeafEyeJedi
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on February 27, 2016, 09:24:15 PM

Read replies #923-925

The latest builds contain the "press button" tip already ;)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: oogan on March 01, 2016, 09:30:00 AM
hello all, i am new here , using ML for quite few days and i love it.
i have seen new canon G16 or S120 camera which came recently , and i liked one perticular mode of shooting called "star mode" , can we have something like that in ML build ?? , its seems the setting are almost there in ML but for effortless shooting  if we have similar menu and features it will be great
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on March 01, 2016, 10:19:10 AM
Describe what it does.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on March 02, 2016, 01:53:22 AM
Hi guys,

I've been searching a lot and not finding what I'm looking for. Would anyone be willing to upload some high quality footage to Vimeo for download or high quality footage to you tube? A lot of the footage I'm finding is rather old and looks low res. What I'm wanting to see is the sharpness and detail of the M with the raw hack. Lots of stuff I'm seeing has had sharpening added of is very shallow depth of field... Making it hard to judge sharpness and detail. Wide angle sharp footage is what I'm looking to see about f5.6 or f 8 aperture. Thank you.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on March 02, 2016, 05:41:20 AM
Would anyone be willing to upload some high quality footage to Vimeo for download or high quality footage to you tube?

Whatever gets uploaded there will be subject to lossy compression. What is it exactly that you want--to see the quality that is possible shooting raw video on the EOSM? It can pretty much stand up to any of the other Canon APS-C cameras in crop mode but it is terrible in full frame mode because it can only do what is called mv720 which does lots of line skipping and the aliasing is quite bad.

Here's a frame from the EOSM in crop mode using dual iso raw video: https://flic.kr/p/DoKXCV
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on March 02, 2016, 11:45:32 PM
Yeah I'm mainly interested in crop mode. Like I said I can't really find any video that isn't shallow depth of field. I realize it's compressed that's why I was asking for Vimeo download. Also new videos seem to look better even on YouTube. Most of the vids of the M are from 2012 2013. I also realize it's hard to have a wide angle on a 3x crop. I'm just looking. I'm interested in the M but I just can't tell about sharpness and detail. I haven't seen anything very definitive. That still does look pretty good though btw. Thanks dfort.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: modachu on March 11, 2016, 01:33:22 AM
Hi, I am new here and have trouble in finding RAW video function.

I installed the latest version(magiclantern-Nightly.2016Feb29.EOSM202) of ML and didn't find the RAW video function.
I tried several older versions and couldn't find RAW video function.

Can someone tell me what's the problem? Many thanks!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on March 11, 2016, 06:48:31 AM
@modachu

Step #1

Go to Modules and select mlv_rec.mo Press the Set button.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1641/25663894616_e665382a5c_z.jpg)

Step #2

Restart the camera and check to see that the module loaded.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1575/25389211280_88c7274752_z.jpg)

Step #3

Go to the Movie menu, select Raw Video (MLV) and press the Set button to enable it.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1546/25663894566_f5467ceb3b_z.jpg)

Ok--there's more to recording raw video. You can enable mlv_snd.mo and record audio with your raw recording and mlv_play.mo that allows non-real-time in-camera playback. You also need to play around with the horizontal resolution, aspect ratio, crop vs. non-cropped mode, fps override--in other words there's lots of settings to try out until you find something that fits your needs.

There's also another module named raw_rec.mo which is an earlier implementation of raw recording that some users still prefer when they are pushing the limits of image size and/or fps.

I find that the best results when recording raw on the EOSM is with the Canon menu set to 1920x1080, ML menu set to 1280x720, Aspect Ratio 16x9, Movie crop mode turned on. This uses just a small section of the center of the sensor so you'll need to use much shorter focal length lenses. Fortunately it is easy to adapt C-mount lenses made for 16mm film or 1/2 or 2/3 inch video cameras to the EOSM to make a compact setup.

Note that the EOSM cannot do what is called mv1080 mode (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16608) so don't expect it to match results you're seeing from the other cameras. Still, you can get some impressive results with the EOSM.

Oh yeah--then there's the focus pixels issue (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16054.0). Many of the shot posted on that topic were done with the EOSM.

EOSM MLV raw video frame shot in Movie crop mode, 1280x720, Dual_ISO
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1540/24460418311_088b48f7e9_z.jpg)

After focus pixel removal using MLVFS (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0) along with MLP (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13512.0)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1466/24542740305_d4a1d9c47c_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: modachu on March 11, 2016, 07:09:03 AM
@dfort

Thank you very much for your kind reply and detailed instructions. It does solve my problem. It's sweet to have this forum and it helps all beginners a lot. Thank you again!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: gerund on March 11, 2016, 10:30:46 PM
I just wanted to share that with sandisk 32gb sdhc uhs-I card I don't expirience the "shutter bug" (while using the 18-55mm IS EF-M lens)
I read on several places that the cause for the bug is not known (please correct me if I am wrong) and that using some cards "prevents" it from happen.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Danne on March 11, 2016, 10:49:14 PM
Well are you experiencing the shutter bug issue with other cards?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on March 11, 2016, 11:03:22 PM
There are a few cards that can get you around the shutter-bug, the SanDisk 32GB Extreme Pro UHS-I SDHC U3 (Class 10) 95 MB/s SD Memory Card seems to be the most popular.

Note that the shutter-bug only affects EF-M zoom lenses. Primes and lenses mounted via a lens adapter don't seem to be bring up the shutter bug. There are several workarounds including turning the camera on/off/on within a second or so and twisting the lens off then on while the camera is powered on.

Here's more than you'll ever want to know about the shutter-bug: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: HB 2E on March 13, 2016, 05:39:56 PM
Hello ALL. Love Magic Lantern on EOS M. I have searched and found info about All-I in Tragic Lantern and that it was merged into the current iteration of ML. I can't seem to find it in the menus. How do I Record in H264 All-I? Thanks
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on March 13, 2016, 10:01:05 PM
It's not in, you need a special build.


An older one from @dpjpanone (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40679):
Quote
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3d6zpxnndvhxpoa/magiclantern-Nightly.2015Aug21.EOSM202.zip?dl=0

If you want to try to record 44fps in 1080p crop mode, you have to set the compression method to ALL-I under "video hacks", just don't forget to set it back to IPP before you turn video hacks back off (read the menu comments)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on March 18, 2016, 05:10:35 AM
anybody got any sharp wide angle footage? Like trees... I wanna see some detail. :)
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 18, 2016, 06:16:47 AM
How wide does it have to be and how many trees?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on March 19, 2016, 05:51:25 AM
I've got a 12.5 c mount and I was thinking about getting something wider like an 8mm or 6mm. I'm coming from a gh2 which has pretty good detail so I'm wondering how 720p crop mode will stack up. As many trees as possible lol. Actually 1 tree would work. Or buildings, whatever. Looking for detail.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 19, 2016, 06:43:30 AM
Alright lemme call 1-800-GO-DFORT.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on March 19, 2016, 07:21:24 AM
Well first of all there is no 720 crop mode that I know of. There's mv1080crop and zoom mode.

A while back I posted a few still frames using a few C-mount lenses.

http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15660

Then there's this shot that I posted too many times, shot with an 8mm Rokinon fisheye lens in Movie crop mode, though it doesn't show much in the way of fine detail. This is a Dual ISO shot.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1466/24542740305_d4a1d9c47c_z.jpg)

I think what @Teamsleepkid might like to see are some DNG frames made from EOSM raw video. Crop mode is where the EOSM can hold up to the other Magic Lantern enabled cameras that use APS-C sized sensors and SD cards. Full frame--not so much because it cannot do mv1080 video.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on March 19, 2016, 06:32:25 PM
Very interesting post on the c mounts and crops thank you. So let me see if I can get this straight. There's a 1080p mode which the M can't do. There's a 3x crop mode that is h.264 only and there's some thing like a 5x crop when recording raw on the M? I was thinking raw was at 3x... Bummer. I mean over apsc. I always do my math over apsc or super 35. Not full frame. Films are never shot this way except for Hitchcock or vistavision.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on March 19, 2016, 09:40:40 PM
Sorry for the confusion--I meant the full APS-C sensor, not full frame as a 35mm still camera frame. I come from a film background so 35mm to me is a four perforation high Academy Full Aperture dimension of about 24mm x 18mm (1.33 : 1).

H.264 frame dimensions are defined by the Canon firmware though ML adds crop and zoom modes to 1920x1080 H.264.

Here are the raw video modes as they apply to the EOSM:

Code: [Select]
Mode          Buffer Size   Notes
 mv1080      - 1808x1190  -  not available on the EOSM.
 mv720       - 1808x727   -  needs to be stretched by 1.67x
                             vertically - up to 50/60 fps
                             except on EOSM.
 mv640       - 1808x1190  -  basically the same as mv1080 mode.
 mv1080crop  - 1872x1060  -  highest resolution and largest
                             sustainable frame sizes on all cameras.
 mv640crop   -            -  not possible.
 zoom        - 2592x1108  -  same 5x magnification as mv1080crop but
                             can pan around sensor and can achieve
                             higher resolution than mv1080crop.

The buffer size is the area of the sensor the camera is using in each mode. The actual image size is a crop from the full buffer. You'll notice that mv1080 has a buffer size that's smaller than 1920 wide. That's also true when shooting H.264, the on board compressor is doing some upscaling when shooting 1920x1080 H.264.

Note that the EOSM will record in mv720 mode even when everything is set to mv1080 mode.

To add to the confusion you are limited to the write speed of the SD card controller so there's no way to record more than a second or so at maximum possible resolution. The sweet spot seems to be about 1280x720. Now on most ML enabled APS-C cameras that save to SD cards you can shoot in mv1080 mode but you need to scale back the image to about 1280x720. Only the 5D3 can record 1920x1080 (and slightly larger in zoom mode) raw video.

The difference between getting into mv1080crop and zoom modes is that you enter mv1080crop via the Movie menu and zoom mode via the magnifier button.

There's a lot more to it than this. I'd recommend searching through the forum for more information on raw video.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: donmarkon on March 20, 2016, 01:47:18 PM
Can someone explain me how to update magic lantern to latest version ?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: garry23 on March 20, 2016, 01:49:36 PM
http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/

Choose EOSM and follow the simple instructions :)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: donmarkon on March 20, 2016, 08:13:46 PM
So i can just delete files and do a new install ?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on March 20, 2016, 10:54:13 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on March 26, 2016, 06:00:59 AM
I've been looking at the nitrate calculator. Does the 3x5 subsampling option have lots of moire and aliasing?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: kentb on March 28, 2016, 09:57:24 AM
Ok, I know this has to have been asked before. But is there a place to get an old stable release with the help files? I don't need any of the extreme hacks like RAW and stuff. Just a stable way to get audio levels on my screen and focus peaking and stuff. Thanks all, sorry for being that guy. I just can't find anything anywhere.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 28, 2016, 10:01:18 AM
Cams supported in "stable":
550D
60D
600D
50D
500D
5D2
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on March 28, 2016, 10:33:04 AM
Ok, I know this has to have been asked before. But is there a place to get an old stable release with the help files?

You have this forum... and its search function... go bleeding edge :)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: kentb on March 28, 2016, 01:11:50 PM
You have this forum... and its search function... go bleeding edge :)

Hah, I've tried! I have kinda limited access to interweb and time, otherwise I wouldn't be the guy to ask dumb questions. Just wanna see if I'm missing something. Like a nice big link that says "stable nightly with help files" I wouldn't be upset to find that.

also the search is either janky or I'm dumb (very possible) or it's my internet or something. But it's not working.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 28, 2016, 01:38:01 PM
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13652.0
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: kentb on March 28, 2016, 03:48:05 PM
Ok. Each word must be at least two characters long. Yup. Read the red text. My bad.  :P
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 28, 2016, 04:06:56 PM
And your problem with nightly builds is? Q is rhetorical because - excluded experimental builds - it's your only option. There is no "stable" version for M and never was. If you don't need a specific feature: Feel free not to use it.

You can use Google advanced search options:
"EOS M" and all the stuff you need to look for site:www.magiclantern.fm/forum
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: kentb on March 28, 2016, 04:20:29 PM
Ok, rookie user error. I'm just gonna be that guy today. How do I get my WB back on auto for when I want it there. Kelvin is nice, but sometimes auto is useful. Last question of the day.

Edit: Never mind figured it out. Thanks for the patients folks.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on March 28, 2016, 07:04:33 PM
I've been looking at the nitrate calculator. Does the 3x5 subsampling option have lots of moire and aliasing?

You mean bitrate calculator? Which one? There are many online.

Please explain what you mean by 3x5 subsampling option. Is this a menu option?

Perhaps you're talking about mv720 mode in raw video or the 1280x720 H.264 setting which skips every 3 pixels horizontally and 5 pixels vertically. Yes, this does have lots of moiré and aliasing on the EOSM as it does on other cameras except for the 5D3 which uses pixel binning instead of skipping.

The EOSM doesn't have mv1080 mode raw video, 3x3 sampling, which is far superior. However it does have crop mode which shows virtually no moiré and aliasing on most shots. If your subject has lots of fine patterns and details you may still have some problems but that is an issue with pretty much all digital cameras.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on March 30, 2016, 09:14:28 AM
Got two changes for you in the latest nightly:

- workaround for menu timeout (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/688/eosm-restart-the-canon-dialog-for-ml-menu/diff) (dmilligan)
- fix for cropmarks in movie mode for playback (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16991) (not tested)

Do they work?
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 30, 2016, 10:07:19 AM
Do they work?

Nice work @a1ex as usual once again!

•Confirmed the Workaround for Menu Timeout (Thanks @dmilligan!)

•Confirmed the Cropmarks in movie mode to be working.

https://vimeo.com/160855613
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on March 30, 2016, 10:53:00 AM
Looks like the framing is different between standby and recording. How can that be called "nice work" instead of bug? :P

Do you mind printing the value of get_current_dialog_handler() during movie playback? ML couldn't figure out that in the playback screen you actually have a video.
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 30, 2016, 11:00:02 AM
Actually assumed it was due to the external monitor recorder I had used (confirmation below) to show the EOSM liveview display but sure if you can refresh my instincts ... In order for me to print the value of get_current_dialog_handler() during movie mode would require for me to use LUA scripting, correct?

*edit*

It was in fact due to the limitations from EOSM HDMI output being recorded onto an external monitor which was why the crop marks were chopped off during playback but this isn't the case on the LiveView LCD itself.

So yes indeed nice work once again @a1ex and please let me know how can I help with providing you the print values per your request?

https://vimeo.com/160861255
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on March 30, 2016, 11:49:23 AM
You can't do it from Lua (or at least not yet), but you can put that in a printf or bmp_printf or NotifyBox somewhere (for example, in don't click me).

The bug is only present with external monitors.
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 30, 2016, 08:37:38 PM
@a1ex -- Not even sure if I did this correctly per your request.

https://vimeo.com/160930659
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on March 31, 2016, 12:29:37 AM
Hehe, just delete that verbose code ;)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: bender on April 01, 2016, 05:17:32 PM
got some probs with my m...
ran all the time stable, but today the first error.
tryed three different ml-builds (1.april 16, 12. jan 16, 19.april 15), every time the same error, can someone help me?

camera works without ml fine!

(http://fs5.directupload.net/images/160401/temp/3qv3zmvj.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4311/3qv3zmvj_jpg.htm)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: GutterPump on April 01, 2016, 05:42:41 PM
The best solution is to find the nearest trash. Sorry

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: bender on April 01, 2016, 05:51:12 PM
@GutterPump, for your post?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: GutterPump on April 01, 2016, 05:58:17 PM
Relax, it's a joke, we are April 1.. Just change the date of your camera and it will work fine.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: jeredmckenna on April 01, 2016, 10:58:36 PM
very clever April fools joke. it got me! i was all over the internet looking for a solution LOL
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: bender on April 02, 2016, 06:40:35 AM
guys... dont scare the shit out of me!  :D
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on April 02, 2016, 11:05:48 AM
it got me! i was all over the internet looking for a solution LOL
Really? Where? On Facebook? Admit it, it's a lie, everyone came here to complain or on Bitbucket to make an issue: 1 (http://"https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2490/stop-error-screen"), 2 (http://"https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2493/5d-mk-ii-bluescreen-crash-or-april-fool"), 3 (http://"https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2494/70d-stop-0x000000aa"), 4 (http://"https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2497/60d-bluescreen-error-0x000000aa"), 5 (http://"https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2498/blue-screen-cannt-use-magic-lantern"), 6 (http://"https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2499/blue-screen-cannt-use-magic-lantern"), 7 (http://"https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2500/blue-screen-stop-error")

Why not use a search engine ( "magic lantern error 0x000000aa" ) ? It's in the first five as last year was covered pretty good.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 02, 2016, 11:23:45 AM
At least he was reading the screen and followed advice. Those opening bitbucket issues didn't.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: leonarka on April 07, 2016, 12:40:52 PM
03.30 & 04.01 Both versions start
ef-m 11-22mm lens in this category need to unlock
If the advance has been unlocked before boot
Press the shutter results do not go
Necessary to unlock the lock and then press the shutter

02.29 then previous versions is no problem

(Use google translate, if not fluent, please forgive me)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on April 07, 2016, 01:00:48 PM
You see this: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on April 07, 2016, 01:06:15 PM
ef-m 11-22mm lens in this category need to unlock
If the advance has been unlocked before boot
Press the shutter results do not go
Necessary to unlock the lock and then press the shutter

Yes, this is a known issue, the shutter bug (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug) but currently the causes are not well understood and there is still no way to completely solve it. It affects all EF-M zoom lenses, but not the EF-M 22mm f2, and also does not affect EF and EF-S lenses mounted on the EOS-M using the lens adapter.

The bug can appear frequently or not, and this depends a lot on the brand and type of SD card you are using.  Currently we know that using a  SanDisk 32GB Extreme Pro UHS-I SDHC U3 (Class 10) 95 MB/s SD Memory Card in most cases can greatly help to reduce to the minimum the probabilty of experiencing the bug.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: leonarka on April 07, 2016, 06:15:01 PM
Hello dear friend

2015.04.19 in the previous version, the shutter occasional problem, I know
But the version 2015.10.01 later, I've never had this problem

Until 2016.02.29 previous version, are no problem
Until this version 2016.03.30, before there was a problem

And not accidental, is fixed, it must happen
Just unlock the lens first, and then boot
They will be unable to press the shutter

This can be compared to 02.29 03.30 differences between two versions,
Then catch the bug

-------------------------------------------------
After repeated testing
Formatting can be solved shutter BUG
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on April 08, 2016, 12:25:59 AM
Kind of hard to follow what you're saying. If you are referring to what is available on the Nightly Builds Download page there are no 2016-02-29 or 2016-04-19 builds. These are the builds that are available:

Date: 2016-03-30 00:11:06 -0700
Date: 2016-03-28 15:08:54 -0700
Date: 2016-02-28 15:09:11 -0800
Date: 2016-02-26 15:08:47 -0800
Date: 2016-02-23 15:08:36 -0800
Date: 2016-02-12 15:08:55 -0800
Date: 2016-01-14 15:09:12 -0800
Date: 2016-01-11 16:20:06 -0800
Date: 2016-01-11 15:08:04 -0800 (failed)
Date: 2015-12-20 15:07:56 -0800
Date: 2015-09-30 15:09:02 -0700 (failed)
Date: 2015-04-18 15:08:06 -0700
Date: 2015-04-14 15:08:11 -0700

I have a card and lens combination that reliably brings up the shutter-bug (I think any card 64GB and greater along with an EF-M zoom lens will do this) and have tried the 2016-02-28 and 2016-02-26 builds. Both exhibit the shutter-bug. As far as I know there has been nothing done over the past couple of years that has had any effect on the shutter-bug.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: leonarka on April 08, 2016, 03:09:45 AM
https://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/

EOSM.202

Date: 2016-04-01 06:08:48 +0800
Date: 2016-03-30 15:11:06 +0800
Date: 2016-03-29 06:08:54 +0800
Date: 2016-02-29 07:09:11 +0800
Date: 2016-02-27 07:08:47 +0800
Date: 2016-02-24 07:08:36 +0800
Date: 2016-02-13 07:08:55 +0800
Date: 2016-01-15 07:09:12 +0800
Date: 2016-01-12 08:20:06 +0800
Date: 2016-01-12 07:08:04 +0800 (failed)
Date: 2015-12-21 07:07:56 +0800
Date: 2015-10-01 06:09:02 +0800 (failed)
Date: 2015-04-19 06:08:06 +0800
Date: 2015-04-15 06:08:11 +0800

This is what I see on the page

On the current generated by 2016-03.30 & 04-01 Shutter BUG
Determine certain occurs

Repeated tests, put on 2016-02-29 previous versions, there is no problem
Put a version of 2016-0330, the problem immediately
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on April 08, 2016, 06:53:06 AM
Ok--I see, different time zones. So what you are saying is that this build doesn't exhibit the shutter-bug:

Quote
magiclantern-Nightly.2016Feb29.EOSM202.zip
Changeset: dd16e5d

Well it does exhibit the shutter-bug on my system. I also tested this version:

Quote
magiclantern-Nightly.2016Feb27.EOSM202.zip
Changeset: c8c0c20

and came up with the same results.

I'm not saying that your tests aren't valid, just that I cannot repeat your findings. On some cards the shutter-bug is intermittent so the test should be repeated multiple times. You need to cycle the power each time you test for the shutter-bug. On my system the shutter-bug appears 100% of the time with all of the builds that I have tested.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on April 08, 2016, 11:10:16 AM
Necessary to unlock the lock and then press the shutter
Depends on the lens, on your 11-22 if you do that first, yes, it works, this issue appears on non-collapse lenses too like the 18-55 and there is no known fix (besides using only some SD cards)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: donmarkon on April 09, 2016, 04:26:43 PM
Guys i need help, when im using vintage lens i loose square box in ML so im unable to move it around, so when i use half press zoom it always zoom in midle. And sometimes i want to change location of center. Can you tell me how to change location easy? This is also the case for magic zoom
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: leonarka on April 11, 2016, 03:21:32 AM
Thanks magic lantern Team
The latest version 04-11
Fixed EF-M 11-22MM, this type of lens to be unlocked
Just before turning on the power to unlock, you can not press the shutter BUG

But there is a new small problem,
Is (P) mode, turn the dial, the aperture can be adjusted even !! ??
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on April 19, 2016, 03:38:32 AM
Thanks for all the help guys. Especially dfort. I'm understanding much more about the m now. I've been reading about mlvfs and workflows. What are you guys doing for workflows. What I'm after is something that will remove the Focus Pixels and make me prores files quickly and easily...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on April 21, 2016, 04:59:05 PM
@Teamsleepkid are you using OS-X, Windows or Linux?

There are several ways to make ProRes files from MLV's.

MLVFS removes the focus pixels and works with all platforms. To make ProRes files from the virtual DNG's you can use MLP (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13512) (OS-X), convmlv (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16799) (Linux, OS-X) or MLV Producer (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15271) (Windows). I have also had success feeding the virtual DNG image sequence into Adobe Media Encoder and Apple Compressor. Finally, many people are using DaVinci Resolve not only for creating quick ProRes files for editing but also for final color grading.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: holmes200 on April 25, 2016, 02:19:15 AM
Hi, I'm considering putting ML on my Canon M, the main two features I currently want are Analog Gain, and Headphone monitoring through the AV port. I would like to check first if those features are available for the M, because on one page somewhere on the site I read that the ML Audio features are not available for cameras after the 600D, and I think the M is after the 600D.

Can you confirm if those two features (and the Audio features in general) are available on the Canon M?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on April 25, 2016, 11:47:06 AM
Hi, I'm considering putting ML on my Canon M, the main two features I currently want are Analog Gain, and Headphone monitoring through the AV port. I would like to check first if those features are available for the M, because on one page somewhere on the site I read that the ML Audio features are not available for cameras after the 600D, and I think the M is after the 600D.

Can you confirm if those two features (and the Audio features in general) are available on the Canon M?

Thanks.
Not available, see here: http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/features
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on April 29, 2016, 10:16:32 AM
Just thought this one might be interesting for EOS M users:

For EOS M, a long press on SET/Q can be made to open submenus, in the same way as a long joystick press opens the submenu on 50D/5D2/5D3/7D.

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/722/eos-m-long-press-set-q-to-open-submenus/diff
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on May 01, 2016, 02:05:54 AM
Really loving raw on the M. Looks like 16! I'm on a Mac and I'm using pink dot remover and morse keeper to output prores. Looks nice and I'm using the Alexa log-c profile. 2 things... It's kinda noisey and it's a bit hard to focus even with the magic focus box.. Ideas?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on May 01, 2016, 07:12:46 AM
Not morse keeper... Autocorrect. Mlraw viewer.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: nothing on May 01, 2016, 07:30:01 PM
I'm using the Alexa log-c profile.

Where did you get the Alexa profile?

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on May 02, 2016, 10:28:15 AM
Log c is built right into mlrawviewer. You can get log c to rec 709 lut from arri website. Haven't really got it looking right yet though still testing.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: spe42 on May 11, 2016, 04:53:02 AM
So just thought I'd ask for some help: I posted some issues I was having with a previous nightly build (unfortunately don't know which one) here http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=17187.msg166553#msg166553 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=17187.msg166553#msg166553), however, I received little feedback. I just updated to the most recent nightly build, and my camera won't turn on now. The green light blinks, and that's it, with or without the memory card. What does this mean and is there anything I can do about this?
If I remove both the memory card and the battery and keep the memory card out after putting the battery back in, the camera will at least turn on, and otherwise seemingly behave normally.
I noticed something strange right before I formatted the card in the camera: I couldn't select the "light formatting" option by pressing the "info" button, which parallels another problem I reported having in my other thread (that I could no longer disable the ML overlays by pressing the "info" button).
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: slvrscoobie on May 17, 2016, 10:52:33 PM
Hey Guys,
Im using an OLD version because, well, it doesnt seem to exhibit the shutter bug. (oct 8,2014)
However, I dont use much of the ML features, mainly its just to turn off that damn'ed touch shutter function. I do this by turning off global draw, and basically left with the std canon SS and A numbers, and exposure dial. I like this since it draws a box around which one your adjusting in Aperture. The ML version doesnt so its a crap shoot, and quite slow to update.
However, the one problem with this is that the numbers only appear while the shutter button is held. :/
Is there another way to accomplish this? I turned off most of the ML features, and auto hid is disabled but I cant find a good way to get the SS/A/Comp to show all the time like it normally does.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: CharlesVV on May 19, 2016, 12:39:50 PM
Hi all, I'm new here and very interested. Can I use the ML for Eos M also on the M2? Is there any solution for the shutter problem? Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on May 19, 2016, 02:36:40 PM
No, it does not work on EOS-M2.

And no, there is not a known way to solve the shuttter bug. But there are ways to minimize it, mainly using some SD card brands and models that usually do not experience the bug.

Both questions have been already asked and answered many times in this thread. So please, read the thread from the beginning before posting.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: alias on May 22, 2016, 12:17:22 PM
hey guys
im using ML whit eos M.... i have a problem, my camera gets very hot, even when I turn it off,
What should I do???
plz help
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 22, 2016, 06:07:14 PM
Is anyone else getting the camera starting all by it self when hanging from your neck?

I use the boxed strap either straight down on my belly or on my side, and it happens all the time eating the small battery away. ;(

Tried to repro this and handle it, pressing the buttons, to no avail.
Also, while you could get it in PictureView mode (my first suspect) by long pressing the PLAY button, I DON'T find it in THAT mode but rather in Normal picture shooting mode or ML menu.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on May 22, 2016, 08:41:17 PM
Is anyone else getting the camera starting all by it self when hanging from your neck?

I had that happen a few times using the stock Canon neck strap. Once it even turned on the touch shutter release option (which I never use) so I ended up with a bunch of oddly frames stills. Not sure how it turns on but I haven't been able to reproduce the problem. I've gotten used to powering down the camera in order to save the battery so it isn't an issue for me.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 22, 2016, 09:28:23 PM
I've gotten used to powering down the camera in order to save the battery so it isn't an issue for me.
Umm, it's powered down and it starts here, in case I wasn't clear enough..   :'(
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 22, 2016, 09:31:33 PM
@Licaon_Kter -- Does this happen with latest nightly or any build?

I'll try to reproduce on my end but not sure where to start?

Haven't seen anything like this on my end on top of my head.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 22, 2016, 10:08:39 PM
Had this like forever, not sure if it's ML related though.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: kosmarnik on May 26, 2016, 03:10:52 PM
Hi, I'm having issues with Advanced bracketing.
I set it up for 3 x 2ev, +++ , Exposure, no delay, no iso shift.
The results are chaotic.

Test:
Drive mode set to single:
2 photos, 0, +2ev, exposure left untouched
4 photos, 0, 0, +2ev, +4ev, exposure changed to 0+2ev
4 photos, 0, 0, +2ev, +4ev, exposure changed to 0+2ev
2 photos, 0, +2ev, exposure left untouched
4 photos, 0, 0, +2ev, +4ev, exposure changed to 0+2ev

At this moment I remembered I should use the latest nightly :-
Switched to Nightly.2016May16
Getting this results:
2 photos, 0, +2ev
3 photos, 0, 0, +2ev
2 photos, 0, +4ev
3 photos, 0, 0, +6ev

Everything is set to default settings.
4 photos, 0, +2ev, 0, +4ev

Such behavior makes the ML bracketing useless for me.





Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: kosmarnik on May 26, 2016, 03:26:38 PM
Shoot preferences: pics at once set to 3
Using the Audio remoteShot, only 2 pics are taken.

Weird. I set it up to 4 pics at once, it takes 3.
Testing some more, and it does 2-3 pics.
Inconsistent.
Seems to be related to shutter speeds.
Set it at 5 pics per shot, so far it does 3, but remains to be seen if it will actually be reliable.

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: spe42 on May 29, 2016, 09:01:55 AM
So I just uninstalled ml from my eosm, and now it's continuing to produce a similar issue as when I had ml installed:
when I try to take a photo, it simply won't. The overlays flash off for a second, and the camera doesn't take a picture.
It did the same thing after I had enabled, and then disabled silent picture mode, so I'm somewhat confused.
Can somebody help me out with some information? What happened? Is there anything that can be done?
The camera still works with ML running and with silent picture enabled, but has it permanently affected the camera?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 29, 2016, 09:54:27 AM
Sounds like you haven't uninstalled ML from the cam (= removed cam's bootflag). Run installation once again and wait for timeout. Reboot cam.
Retry and report.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: spe42 on May 30, 2016, 02:09:12 AM
That is exactly what I did. I didn't know how else to uninstall it, so I let the automatic timed uninstall run, after which I noticed these issues. I have since reinstalled ML and confirmed twice that I can't take photos without full res silent pictures enabled. Without silent picture enabled, it won't do anything except something that seems to resemble the EOSM shutter bug (so I'm told) however, I have not yet experienced an actually locked shutter. Without silent picture enabled, all that happens when I try to take a photo is that the screen overlays (M mode, shutter, expo., etc.) disappear, then reappear. Thus far (three times including before uninstall and reinstall) it has consistently proved the case that I can work around the issue by enabling silent picture, but it has to be set to full resolution, otherwise a text box appears that says "preparing..." in place of taking a photo.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: alias on May 31, 2016, 08:34:52 PM
hey guys
im using ML whit eos M.... i have a problem, my camera gets very hot, even when I turn it off,
What should I do???
some body help me, if i using ml my cameraو it can break??????

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 31, 2016, 10:26:50 PM
What ML build?
What do you do? Pics? H.264 video? RAW video?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: alias on June 03, 2016, 09:47:02 AM
using the last version,
16.5.2016

It is hot, even when turned off :-[
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on June 03, 2016, 01:00:24 PM
It does get hot while used, but it should not be hot while off though.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: farmfield on June 25, 2016, 01:18:01 PM
Whomever solved the ML meny exiting thingie, much appreciated. The last build is so friggin nice. :D
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: harrynkl on June 27, 2016, 07:06:04 AM
sorry guys, If this a repeat question from other.
Is EOS M10 capable of shooting with ML?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 29, 2016, 08:16:29 AM
According to CHDK project camera's code base is Canon's P&S line.
As a1ex pointed out it might not be impossible to implement ML but it's about as difficult to port ML to Nikon DSLRs.
-> No dev is working on it and you better put your hopes in CHDK.
https://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=12757.0
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Nvilla on July 05, 2016, 01:34:04 AM
how do i install the bin file on the sd card for the m10?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 05, 2016, 07:19:46 AM
You don't. See message above yours.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M Screen Print Problem
Post by: mapline on July 07, 2016, 05:55:18 PM
Hi
Problem first image perfect (B&W)but if I do a another screen from info button  I get coloured background (light blue) not B&W.
Tried reformating , reinstalling ML, different card but no change!
Can you please tell me what Im doing wrong?
Opening in Adobe cs6
Thanks

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2a6uhax.jpg)
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2hywhg4.jpg)

 any guidance?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: ZilvinasK on July 08, 2016, 12:58:40 AM
Hello guys, I just installed ML to my Eos M and there is no audio metering and no audio menu in ML. Audio without ML works fine, but not with ML.
Could you help me? Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on July 08, 2016, 01:18:51 PM
 What ML build date?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: mapline on July 08, 2016, 04:50:59 PM
Hi
magiclantern-Nightly.2016Jun13.EOSM202.zip
Built on: 2016-06-12 23:08:10 +0100
Changeset: 90fe6de
Many thanks
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on July 08, 2016, 06:52:14 PM
Reset ML settings to default.
Reset Canon settings to default.
Retry.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on July 08, 2016, 07:10:09 PM
@Licaon_Kter: are you able to get correct behavior on your EOS M?

On-topic: the palette registers are write-only, so if you are able to get the palette values, be my guest ;)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on July 08, 2016, 07:26:17 PM
@Licaon_Kter: are you able to get correct behavior on your EOS M?
Not sure what the problem is though.
S/he make a screenshot of ML or what?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: mapline on July 08, 2016, 11:35:31 PM
Hi from he (Michael)
Reset camera to defaults
Formatted card and reinstalled ML
Same results PPM file 1 good other blue
(http://i64.tinypic.com/9unk0g.jpg)
(http://i65.tinypic.com/oaoqzc.jpg)
Camera and ML working fine except screen print. Loaded PPM files to Adobe CS6 to convert to jpeg
Thanks for your time
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on July 10, 2016, 01:13:12 AM
I tried reproducing this and it turns out that the colors are wrong when doing a screen capture of the Canon INFO screen. All of the other screen captures I tried turned out fine.

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8736/28202912015_ef659f9433_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on July 10, 2016, 04:09:07 AM
Yes, I can confirm too. Strange.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: mapline on July 10, 2016, 01:50:02 PM
Thanks for replies, at least I know its not just my camera!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dmilligan on July 11, 2016, 03:01:33 PM
Yes, I can confirm too. Strange.
Thanks for replies, at least I know its not just my camera!

a1ex already gave you the answer to what is going on, it's seems maybe the answer passed over your heads:

the palette registers are write-only, so if you are able to get the palette values, be my guest ;)

Translation: we don't know what the color values (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indexed_color) in the bitmap vram (overlay screen buffer) are supposed to mean.

Canon firmware sets up the color palette (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palette_(computing)) for it's graphics, and we can't read the values directly from the display registers that control the palette, they are write-only (figuring out the current color palette would require reverse engineering the Canon code that setups the color palette and patching it in a way that allows us to keep track of the palette; a1ex says that if you are able to do that then "be my guest", implying that it would be a non-trivial and time consuming task; I suppose all the recent qemu (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=2864.msg168603#msg168603) advancements booting the Canon GUI would be a great help to this end).

All of the other screen captures I tried turned out fine.
Screenshots of ML stuff looks correct b/c for our graphics, we know what the palette is.

Screenshots of Canon graphics on other cameras look incorrect too, but not quite as crazy.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: mapline on July 12, 2016, 01:56:46 PM
Thanks for the further explanation which I can understand and makes sense.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: leonarka on July 12, 2016, 09:03:50 PM
The latest version
If using the left button to lock focus
Then shutter metering, patterned after the move
Click the lock will have metering and click, no metering lock
Whether used to weigh the formula, or spot metering, the situation is the same

Is there any place can be set?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on July 12, 2016, 11:34:45 PM
In Canon menu -> Key with four squares -> Custom functions (Fn.p) -> Fn.pIV AE lock -> did you use option 1 or 3? Test them both.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: leonarka on July 13, 2016, 12:15:45 AM
Option 2
To use the left button to lock focus

Options 1 & 3
Not lock the focus
Then shutter metering
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on July 13, 2016, 01:28:43 AM
Umm, it's not working like this here, but:
* 1 -> lock only focus on * (star) press (or left button how you've said), it will meter and take the picture on button press.
* 3 -> lock both focus and metering on star press, it will just take the picture (unchanged) on button press.

Both 0 and 2 don't do anything on * (star) press, at least on my EOS M.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: mapline on July 13, 2016, 07:59:56 PM
Hi
Use
* 1 -> locks only focus by * button.
  Pressing half shutter button ( and hold) will meter and  toggles AE lock with * showing on left next to lens info  when locked.
  Release half press again releases lock * then meters, press again will meter and lock again with * on half press.
  Take the picture on continue to full button press.
At least this is on my camers
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: davebreal on July 26, 2016, 04:14:14 PM
Hi - I am not able to turn off the LCD of my EOS M when using the intervalometer on ML.  This could easily be user error, can someone walk me through the steps to turn off LCD.

My current settings:
Powersave in LiveView
Enable power saving -> on STBY + REC
Use Shortcut key -> INFO
Turn off LCD -> after 20 seconds

This does nothing in my case, just downloaded most recent nightly build available.

Am I missing something?  Any settings I need to change?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on July 29, 2016, 11:49:44 PM
What interval?
Works fine here for both normal and silent pics, with 10s and Canon picture review of 2sec.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on August 10, 2016, 11:02:38 PM
Dfort awhile ago you mentioned a zoom mode that was capable of2592x1108 or something like that.. is that do-able on the eos m? And if so how do you do it?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on August 12, 2016, 07:41:04 AM
Use the magnifying glass button to get into 5x zoom mode then adjust the image size with the ML settings. Going way up in size will limit recording time to about a second or so. A crash could also wipe out the card so good luck!


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Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on August 12, 2016, 04:47:10 PM
Dfort awhile ago you mentioned a zoom mode that was capable of2592x1108 or something like that.. is that do-able on the eos m? And if so how do you do it?

Here's a better explanation.

Turn on the raw video (MLV preferred) module. Now change your display using the INFO button in order to access the magnifying button. On the EOSM it is only on the touch screen and is located on the lower right side.

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8791/28648227770_d5b4efa8f2_z.jpg)

Tap the magnifying glass icon until you get into 5x zoom mode. Now when you go back to the raw settings you can set the resolution to a maximum of 2496x1074.

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8674/28901837006_36f2f8b687_z.jpg)

Note that at this resolution the write speed needed is 134.0 MB/s and the EOSM tops out at about 21 MB/s but I just tried it and the camera can record 1 second, give or take a couple frames. That's all that fits in the buffer at that resolution. Not very practical but it is doable.

Besides the short recording times you'll also have to deal with figuring out how to accurately frame the shot because there are no crop marks to show where the image cuts off.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: davebreal on August 15, 2016, 06:15:57 PM
I am trying unsuccesfully to use PowerSave on my EOS M using the intervalometer in 5 second intervals, I have image review turned off in the Canon menu.  I would like to turn the LCD off during record but am unable to.  I have the option turned on in the Magic Lantern menu but my LCD stays active the whole time the camera is shooting.

Anything else I can try?
Do I need to actually turn image review on??

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on August 15, 2016, 10:32:57 PM
I asked this somewhere else and no, you can't.
Post #701 and #702 here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12523.msg145189#msg145189
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on August 15, 2016, 11:36:35 PM
@davebreal: the 5-second interval is a bit too small: ML powersave kicks in after the picture is fully taken and nearly processed (ML is a bit conservative here, sometimes waiting more than necessary, in order to prevent camera-specific quirks). With a 10-second interval, it works just fine on a 700D, for example.

For your case, I recommend enabling image review, in order to prevent the camera from going back to LiveView. The biggest power hog is not the display - it's the sensor in LiveView. For the display, just set the brightness to minimum.

To turn the display off, you can write a short Lua script, but I doubt it will make any real difference.

@Licaon_Kter: you asked about something else.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on August 26, 2016, 08:47:27 AM
thank you dfort. i guess i thought since it was windowing the sensor it would be lower bitrate. 100MB per second aint gonna work lol.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Oswald on August 26, 2016, 03:23:43 PM
I found  bug. I was on crete and it was very warm in there. I found out that if cam temperature rises over 45 celsius or something like that, camera temperature  meter shows -60 Celsius.  When I am home, I can show screen shots. I am using i think  latest build.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: droogy on August 31, 2016, 07:06:35 PM
Hi there, just installed the latest version of ML successfully on my EOS M. Use it with a non-AF Nikkor f 2,8/28mm lens. Works just fine. The only thing puzzling me is the temperature. Camera gets warm in a hurry. Shows 41 C just after a few shots. Then "-60 Celsius". Is there a danger to the camera's electronics?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on August 31, 2016, 10:33:34 PM
Interesting, I checked it out and saw the temperature go from 41 to -60.

Opened a bug report on this:

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2596/temp-goes-from-41-c-to-60-c
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: jgrauman on September 03, 2016, 05:15:38 PM
Hi all!

Thanks for all the work on ML, I love it so far! I've been reading on HDMI out. I don't have a way to record HDMI and am considering buying ablackmagic  decklink mini recorder to do so. So, how does the quality of HDMI out stack up to regular avchd at 1080p30? I know it has black bars on sides, but that could be livable for me if quality otherwise is good. Also, my TV says the HDMI is 1080i, but I don't know if that means 1080i60 or 1080i30 or something else? Thanks so much, and sorry if I somehow missed that info!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on September 05, 2016, 01:47:47 AM
Magic Lantern can turn off the overlays on the EOSM so it outputs a clean signal from the HDMI output.

http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/userguide#clear_overlays

The black bars on the side are because it doesn't output a 1920x1080 signal, most cameras don't. The exception being the 5D3. However, there are users who are using external recorders and are reporting good results. Just a little blowup in post is all that's needed to fill the frame. The EOSM signal should be about the same as the DSLR's so it should be fine. Note that the camera screen will go blank when going out HDMI. Again, the 5D3 is the only Magic Lantern enabled camera that I know of that can mirror the image in the Live View when connected to an external monitor.

Note that the picture style affects the output so if you are serious about this consider using a log picture style like CineStyle (http://www.technicolor.com/en/solutions-services/cinestyle), EOSHD C-LOG (http://www.eoshd.com/2016/09/now-available-eoshd-picture-profiles-brings-c-log-canon-dslrs-including-1d-x-mark-ii-5d-mark-iv/) or one of the reverse engineered CineStyle (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16299) picture styles.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: jgrauman on September 05, 2016, 05:39:37 PM
Thanks so much for the reply! I saw how to turn off displays, which got me excited! Thanks for the tips!!

This is a bit random, but would it be difficult to put all the black bars on the left or right? Maybe an option for image a) center, b) left, c) right? Normally I could just do it in post, but I'm trying to do some things live with the stream and don't think I can easily move the image.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on September 05, 2016, 09:53:33 PM
...would it be difficult to put all the black bars on the left or right?

That sounds hard, certainly way beyond my abilities. You might post it in the feature requests topic.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: madz on September 05, 2016, 10:23:14 PM
Hi everyone!

I was testing a noncrop RAW video recording and got a problem.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25628174/moire_artefact.png)

This is a screenshot 200% crop from MLVP (same situation in ML RAW Viewer and RAW2cDNG). I understand, that it's canon's downscale with skipping lines, plus ML squeezes image vertically, which leads to heavy moire and ladders. But where did these false blue and red pixels came from, looks like color moire? Is there a way to fix it while exporting RAW (without post in LR or PS)?
Shot RAW 1728x434 ISO 320 50mm f/2.8 (same thing at all ISO settings)

P.S. I would love to shoot in crop mode (fantastic quality), but it need's fast wide lens and I can't afford it at this moment.
P.P.S. Sorry for bad english
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: mlentuzijast on September 06, 2016, 11:04:34 AM
Hello all
Not sure if this is the right place to ask for eos-M help but If I'm wrong please move my post to appropriate subforum.

First off thanks to all of you who are taking the time to develop this fantastic software. Been using it on all my canon cameras and still learning.
Recently I bought a canon eos-M and have installed latest nightly on it but I'm having some issues with magic zoom and my manual lens samyang 85mm F/1,4. When I try to focus green bars do not show up and I'm not sure if I am in focus or not.

So my question is does eos-m support magic zoom or if some one has noticed issue with magic zoom in latest nightlies ?

Any input is appreciated.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on September 06, 2016, 07:49:12 PM
I was testing a noncrop RAW video recording and got a problem.

That is a great test. It clearly illustrates the issues with mv720 mode. The EOSM is the only camera that doesn't do mv1080 mode. I've got a feature request (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16608) for it but it isn't an easy fix. Basically mv720 does a 3x5 line skip which creates lots of aliasing, mv1080 does a 3x3 pattern which also suffers from aliasing but not nearly as much. Note that there is also some aliasing in crop mode, there's no way to get around it because of the way the sensor was designed.

The little color dots you're seeing and possibly the vertical color lines may be artifacts from the focus pixels. It was an interesting journey dealing with focus pixels (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16054.0). I ended up mapping all of the focus pixels for the affected cameras starting with the EOSM and @dmilligan coded a fix into MLVFS. I assume that @AWPStar is using the same algorithm in MLVProducer (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15271.0). Basically to hide the focus pixels the surrounding pixels need to be averaged. Dual ISO was a problem because of the alternating horizontal lines of light and dark so the averaging is only done on the pixels in the horizontal axis. This usually works fine until you get into fine details that are one pixel wide. That might be what's causing those vertically colored lines.

P.S. I would love to shoot in crop mode (fantastic quality), but it need's fast wide lens and I can't afford it at this moment.

What is unique about the EOSM in crop mode is that you can use C-mount lenses. There's a bunch of cheap fast lenses out there though the quality isn't exactly fantastic. On the plus side crappy lenses do tame moiré. There are some nice quality vintage C-mount lenses made for 16mm but it seems that collectors are bidding up the prices on ebay.

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8083/29503000355_42450fdbe5_z.jpg)

...I'm having some issues with magic zoom and my manual lens samyang 85mm F/1,4. When I try to focus green bars do not show up and I'm not sure if I am in focus or not.

The EOSM supports magic zoom but I'm not very familiar with it, I prefer focus peaking when using manual lenses. You said that the issue is with your manual lens. Is it a chipped lens? Assuming it is an EF mount which lens adapter are you using? Do you have the same issue with an EF-M lens?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: mlentuzijast on September 06, 2016, 11:17:55 PM

The EOSM supports magic zoom but I'm not very familiar with it, I prefer focus peaking when using manual lenses. You said that the issue is with your manual lens. Is it a chipped lens? Assuming it is an EF mount which lens adapter are you using? Do you have the same issue with an EF-M lens?
I also like focus peaking but at times I find it touch off-focus. Until few min ago samyang 85mm F/1.4 was my only manual lens that I used with canon genuine EF to EF-M adapter. Its not chipped so manual all the way. I see no change with magic zoom with my FD 28mm F/2.8 lens as well. Reason that I am asking is that on my 5D mark2 I also use magic zoom but there I get 2 green bars confirmation when shot is in focus (same lens samyang 85mm) while on eos-m I do not. Its a minor issue but still would like to have this option on my eos-m if possible. I do not own any eos-m lenses so I cant compare.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: madz on September 07, 2016, 02:53:32 AM
The little color dots you're seeing and possibly the vertical color lines may be artifacts from the focus pixels. It was an interesting journey dealing with focus pixels (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16054.0). I ended up mapping all of the focus pixels for the affected cameras starting with the EOSM and @dmilligan coded a fix into MLVFS. I assume that @AWPStar is using the same algorithm in MLVProducer (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15271.0). Basically to hide the focus pixels the surrounding pixels need to be averaged. Dual ISO was a problem because of the alternating horizontal lines of light and dark so the averaging is only done on the pixels in the horizontal axis. This usually works fine until you get into fine details that are one pixel wide. That might be what's causing those vertically colored lines.

Yeah I read that few days ago, because that was the very first problem that popped up in testing RAW. Great job done, thank you!
BTW need to compare to 720 h264 for color moire... Because 1080 h264 didn't have that.

What is unique about the EOSM in crop mode is that you can use C-mount lenses. There's a bunch of cheap fast lenses out there though the quality isn't exactly fantastic. On the plus side crappy lenses do tame moiré. There are some nice quality vintage C-mount lenses made for 16mm but it seems that collectors are bidding up the prices on ebay.

I did some quick search for C-mount lens on ebay and Aliexpress, but most of them are noname 25mm+ (160mm equivalent in crop mode). And I need something in 35-80mm eq. range. Also looked for vintage USSR fisheyes, but they are very rare or not fast enough.

Looks like I'll have continue to shoot in flat h264 :(

P.S. did compare test

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25628174/moire_test.png)

in fact I can see red and blue cast on 720 h264 at the same place like in RAW, but codec's blur hides it (plus flat cinestyle profile) and it becomes not so noticeable.

P.P.S. yeah... mv1080 would solve lot of issues...
Just one more thought:
I read somewhere that mv1080 mode turns on with beginning h264 recording. <stupid idea>CPU probably won't handle it, but still, what if we set lowest h264 bitrate possible (CBR 0.1x or VBR Qscale 16, may be something even lower is possible) and write both h264 + RAW? (we can also grab audio track from h264)</stupid idea>

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on September 07, 2016, 03:56:21 PM
@madz

Wow, great tests.

Your ideas aren't stupid. In fact it is along the lines that a1ex, the main developer, suggested to get mv1080 working on the EOSM.

You should be able to find C-mount lenses much wider than 25mm. In my lens stash I've got a Rainbow H6x8 II 8 48mm F1.0 TV Zoom Lens, Ricoh 8.5mm f/1.5 (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/979785-REG/ricoh_c30811kp_c_mount_8_5mm_m_series.html) and a Ricoh 4.8mm f/1.8 (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/979784-REG/ricoh_c30405kp_c_mount_4_8mm_m_series.html). The 8-48 F1.0 zoom you'll have to search for but the others are still in production. These aren't great lenses but ok if you're going for a vintage Super8 movie look.

Keep up the good work. You're helping elevate the EOSM to the next level.

@Licaon_Kter, any thoughts on the Magic Zoom issue @mlentuzijast is reporting?

BTW--I'll be offline for about a month so excuse my slow response time.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on September 07, 2016, 06:22:42 PM
Magic Zoom is not something that I use, not sure if because it does not work as well or anything else, although I do like do play with my OM Zuiko glass, I just use the zebras.

I'll take a look asap.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: madz on September 07, 2016, 10:48:59 PM
@dfort

Your ideas aren't stupid. In fact it is along the lines that a1ex, the main developer, suggested to get mv1080 working on the EOSM.

h264 1080p @ 0.1x bitrate takes about half megabyte per second + PCM stereo 48/16 audio up to 0.2MB. So it's less than 2% from EOS-M SD module write speed (I have card with bit overkill). I'm fine with that, just hope that CPU can handle that.
Do you know if fixing mv1080 on EOS-M is in the plans for some near future or should I save the money for other camera like 650D for example?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on September 08, 2016, 06:57:43 AM
Yes mv1080!! please please. Great ideas!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: reece on September 15, 2016, 03:30:53 PM
Hello everybody.
Please excuse me in advance if this is not the correct place for this question.
I am looking to modify the EOS M3 functionality, specifically the AEB (auto exposure bracking), with different variables. Currently it does e +/- 2 ev range. I've seen that other (higher class) Canon cameras can go up to +/- 8 ev, which is a much larger scope. Can this sort of upgrade/modification be done ?

Thank you in advance!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on September 20, 2016, 06:36:35 AM
I could be wrong but I don't think there's anything going on with the M3. Aparently it runs on the powershot firmware. There's CHDK they work on powershot stuff. Look that up.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on September 21, 2016, 12:43:09 AM
I could be wrong but I don't think there's anything going on with the M3...

Well maybe if an EOS-M3 user is willing to help out?

http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14990.msg169808#msg169808
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Shutterbutton on October 02, 2016, 05:38:43 PM
Quick question to anyone who shoots video. I've recently started using external microphones with this camera and have come across an issue that I've never found in the 1+ year of using this camera with ML. If you record in h.264 with FPS override your audio will be disabled  only if you have a microphone plugged in.

I tested this with and without a microphone and only having a mic plugged in with FPS override kills the audio signal. Does anyone know the reason for this? Seems very random, as the camera has the ability to record the audio signal with nothing plugged into the jack.

Issue doesn't exist in RAW due to the MLV option for audio.

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on October 02, 2016, 10:52:48 PM
If you record in h.264 with FPS override your audio will be disabled  only if you have a microphone plugged in.

Weird--hadn't had a chance to check this out yet. I thought audio recording was disabled with FPS override turned on. Does the audio recorded with the camera's internal mic stay in sync?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Shutterbutton on October 03, 2016, 01:24:56 AM
Yes, the audio is synced without a mic (I was shocked about that).
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: biggles on October 03, 2016, 03:00:17 AM
Hi, I want to set a minimum shutter speed on my Canon M when in A mode. Since you can't do it in the default menus, I was hoping ML would let me set it, it's a very useful feature. After reading around, it seems that it's not possible in the stable v2.3 build, but it used to be in a module called Auto ISO, which is no longer developed and has been pulled from the official build. Am I understanding it right? Is there any way to get this feature? Is it in the nightly build? Do I have to enable that module somehow? The modules feature doesn't seem to be very well documented, so I don't really understand them. Thanks for your help. I'd like to have this feature available on my M.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on October 03, 2016, 02:04:17 PM
@biggles: Do not use that 2.3 version, it's years behind. Get the Nightly.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: biggles on October 04, 2016, 02:34:20 AM
Ok, does it have that feature in the nightly that I want?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on October 04, 2016, 07:12:46 AM
Control shutter speed while in full auto mode? I don't think so.


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Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: biggles on October 06, 2016, 04:21:37 AM
No, set a minimum shutter speed that the camera won't go slower than, to be used in Av mode.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on October 06, 2016, 07:59:58 AM
Not in Av mode. But you can do that in Auto ETTR module, using M mode.

ETTR exposure calculation is slower than Canon autoexposure, but much more precise.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on October 08, 2016, 12:54:03 AM
Quick question to anyone who shoots video. I've recently started using external microphones with this camera and have come across an issue that I've never found in the 1+ year of using this camera with ML. If you record in h.264 with FPS override your audio will be disabled  only if you have a microphone plugged in.

I tested this with and without a microphone and only having a mic plugged in with FPS override kills the audio signal. Does anyone know the reason for this? Seems very random, as the camera has the ability to record the audio signal with nothing plugged into the jack.

Issue doesn't exist in RAW due to the MLV option for audio.

I finally got around to checking this out and I'm not getting any audio on the H.264 file when FPS override is enabled either with the internal camera mic or an external mic. It doesn't seem to matter what fps setting is used, even when adjusted to the same fps speed as the Canon menu (no override).
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: sschoepe on October 11, 2016, 11:18:53 AM
Is there a way to set different picture styles for movie and picture mode? On 600D that worked. If i remember right even a different global drawings setup was possible. That would be so great, cause i don't want to shoot flat pictures;)

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on October 12, 2016, 02:42:56 AM
You are not shooting RAW where styles don't apply?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on October 12, 2016, 06:09:06 AM
You are not shooting RAW where styles don't apply?

When using Canon Digital Professional Pro app picture styles do get applied to CR2 files. You can also switch picture styles with that program--with raw files only of course.

I suppose it can also be an issue if you want to shoot H.264 video in a flat picture style then switch to JPEG stills with a creative look picture style for color grading reference.

Though I don't know if it is possible to automatically switch picture styles when changing between movie and photo mode. However, when switching to full automatic mode it changes into an (auto) picture style no matter what picture style you have selected.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: madz on October 15, 2016, 01:27:08 PM
Quote from: madz
P.S. I would love to shoot in crop mode (fantastic quality), but it need's fast wide lens and I can't afford it at this moment.

I change my mind about RAW in crop mode, I don't like it at all. The first impression was good, but after some more tests... yeah it's 1:1 and no lines skipping, but it becomes soooo soft, even with very sharp lenses and noise grain also now 1:1 :)

So, is there any chance to get mv1080 in some near future? Or is there somewhere an information about that, just to know if it's in the plans or not? Anyone?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Flash Gordon on October 15, 2016, 03:07:34 PM
Hi I am trying to work out if I can use an EOS M in a wildlife camera trap. I have the latest ML firmware installed. I have the audio release on and a PIR sensor connected to the mic port using a stereo cable. I have been using a remote control car battery pack so that I can leave the camera switched on as it lasts much longer than the normal battery. I have Canon firmware 2.02 installed on the camera. What I have found is this:

If under power saving mode in the camera main menu I have "camera auto off" disabled and the LCD auto set to greater the 2 mins (2 mins is the interval setting on the PIR) the camera and PIR work perfectly. i.e. the camera is on and the pulse from the PIR fires the camera.

However once the LCD powers down the PIR does not trigger the camera even though it has sent a pulse to the camera and the camera green light is still on. Looking at the Power saving menu the longest I can have the LCD on for is 30 mins. Therefore as it stands if the camera is not triggered every 30 mins it will power down the LCD and for some reason the PIR will not trigger the camera. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Flash Gordon on October 17, 2016, 07:05:12 PM
Ok so I have done some tests with a remote cable release on the EOS M and the audio remote shoot enabled to rule out it being the signal from the PIR sensor I want to use with the camera. In a nutshell if the EOS M is on and the LCD is on the remote cable trigger works fine firing the camera. If the LCD switches off, even with the camera still on the cable release does not fire the camera. Any ideas or help would be appreciated. The camera limited the LCD to being on for a maximum of 30 mins according to the camera menu. I am at the point of giving up and sticking with a DSLR for camera traps / trail cameras which is a real shame.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on October 17, 2016, 07:36:55 PM
So you need a way to keep the LCD active? What if you switch to the ML menu? There's code that keeps refreshing the display. Can't test it right now but it is worth a try.


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Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on October 17, 2016, 07:44:07 PM
Another idea is to write a lua script. Check on the scripting section. Someone could probably help you with that.


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Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on October 18, 2016, 06:01:39 AM
What if you switch to the ML menu?

Ok--just tried it and that idea doesn't work. Audio RemoteShot cannot fire the camera while in the ML menu.

I would think that what you really want is for the LCD to be off and have the camera triggered by audio, or some other means. I'm assuming you're using Audio RemoteShot because the M doesn't have any way to use a cable release? You can use an infrared remote but it probably isn't suitable for your purposes because it has a 10sec. delay. I haven't checked if it will fire with the LCD off.

So the next step would be to write a lua script. This seems like an interesting problem that's perfectly suited for lua. Check out the lua scripting (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14828.0) topic.

I posted a question there to see if someone familiar with lua scripting can tell us if there's a solution for you.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14828.msg173487#msg173487
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Flash Gordon on October 18, 2016, 09:35:19 AM
Dfort your assumptions are correct basically I need the EOS M to stay on and allow the camera to be triggered using a cable release connected to the audio socket whilst the LCD is switched off.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on October 18, 2016, 06:58:28 PM
@Flash_Gordon keep checking the lua scripting topic (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14828.msg173498#msg173498). It looks like there might be a way to get this working.

I've been thinking about your project and at first it seemed that the EOSM would be ideal for this application being so small and inexpensive compared to DSLR's. However, there may be a problem switching off the LCD because the EOSM must have LV on or it won't fire. Of course this means that it will be drawing a greater amount of current from the battery than a DSLR that can basically go into a sleep state while waiting for an event to wake the camera and fire the shutter. I just tried Audio RemoteShot on a 700D and it seems to work fine with the LCD off. Of course with a DSLR you've got the option of using a cable release to trigger the shutter.

Don't give up hope yet, there might be a way to get something working on the EOSM.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: andresvina on October 19, 2016, 06:37:08 PM
Hi,
I am using ML everythings works fine for months, but since I started to shot long exposure even manual or intervalometer from ML, always raw photos, and different setups, SD cards, etc., I´ve got corrupted photos, below ejemple, so anyone had any similar one? even I´m thinking in a hardware problem....

https:[email protected]/30394580436
(https:[email protected]/30394580436)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on October 20, 2016, 06:37:20 AM
@Flash_Gordon are you keeping up with that LUA topic? I'm getting really close to a solution for you:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14828.msg173600#msg173600

PM me and I can wrap up a test build for you. In the meantime let's see what suggestions come up.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: me.n.khof4sh on October 22, 2016, 09:29:38 PM
Hello Guys  :)
I'm new here and have a question.
Is it possible to make a headphone jack for 700D with ML?
If it is, please explain for me how.
I'd be glad for your help.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on October 23, 2016, 03:01:41 PM
Is it possible to make a headphone jack for 700D with ML?

You posted this in the wrong topic. This is for the EOSM. The 700D topic is: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5951.0

Here's a list of features for each camera: https://builds.magiclantern.fm/features.html

Sorry, headphone monitoring for the 700D isn't on the list. That means that the developers haven't been able to get it working--yet.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on October 23, 2016, 03:35:49 PM
Hi,
I am using ML everythings works fine for months, but since I started to shot long exposure even manual or intervalometer from ML, always raw photos, and different setups, SD cards, etc., I´ve got corrupted photos, below ejemple, so anyone had any similar one? even I´m thinking in a hardware problem....

https:[email protected]/30394580436
(https:[email protected]/30394580436)

Could you provide more information? Things like what is the date of the build you're using, at what shutter speed does this occur, what are your settings? CR2 or DNG or ?? Have you tried uninstalling ML and seeing if this is still occurring? That might point to a hardware issue.

By the way you can display images from flickr by "sharing" using "BBCode" and posting only the img tag. For example:

Code: [Select]
[img]https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5827/30394580436_64f811d2e1_z.jpg[/img]
Make sure you keep the image resolution less than 900x900 pixels as stated in the Magic Lantern Forum Rules (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=934.msg1141#msg1141).

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5827/30394580436_64f811d2e1_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on October 23, 2016, 05:33:18 PM
@Flash_Gordon came up with an interesting idea turning the EOSM into a wildlife trap camera. I came up with a simple solution using a lua script that keeps the LCD active indefinitely but it requires a custom build from the lua_fix branch. It isn't ideal, a better solution would be to allow the LCD to power down and still be able to trigger the camera with Audio RemoteShot but that requires digging deep into the ML code and it might not even be possible.

I posted a package with the custom build and instructions on how to set it up if anyone wants to try it out.

https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/downloads/EOSM_wildlife_trap_2016-10-23.zip
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: wildstray on October 23, 2016, 06:15:00 PM
Hello all, about EOS M do you notice a poor battery life? It seems to me really poor (not even an hour of usage). Better with a compatibile battery, worse with the original Canon one.
Thanks to ML I noticed that CPU usage never decrease below 40%... is it normal? What's the idle cpu load for other cameras? Maybe the reason for poor battery life and what's using the CPU so much? (LV?)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on October 23, 2016, 06:23:17 PM
60D: 57% in photo mode (30fps, global draw off).

Drops to 26% with FPS override at 10 FPS.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: wildstray on October 23, 2016, 06:40:15 PM
60D: 57% in photo mode (30fps, global draw off).

Drops to 26% with FPS override at 10 FPS.

Thank you a1ex! So it seems that CPU usage is related to LV...
EOS M with FPS override at 10 FPS has 20% cpu usage... good for battery... but the camera become unusable.
AF slows down proportionally to FPS. It's already slow without override... at 10 fps it takes 4-5 seconds to focus :o
In the 60D AF slows down?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on October 23, 2016, 06:59:04 PM
Yes, it does.

Powersave idea: drop to 10 FPS after X seconds of idle time, switch back on half-shutter press (or on any key press).
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: wildstray on October 24, 2016, 02:42:40 AM
Powersave idea: drop to 10 FPS after X seconds of idle time, switch back on half-shutter press (or on any key press).

Great idea. I just wrote some modifications to powersave.c, it works... but there is an annoying issue: with touch or keypress the camera returns instantaneously responsive, while with half shutter there is a little delay... little but noticeable...   :-\

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diff -r 15fce5b49b23 src/powersave.c
--- a/src/powersave.c   Sat Oct 08 16:22:41 2016 +0200
+++ b/src/powersave.c   Mon Oct 24 02:31:13 2016 +0200
@@ -129,6 +129,7 @@
 static CONFIG_INT("idle.display.gdraw_off.after", idle_display_global_draw_off_after, 0);
 static CONFIG_INT("idle.rec", idle_rec, 0);
 static CONFIG_INT("idle.shortcut.key", idle_shortcut_key, 0);
+static CONFIG_INT("idle.display.fps_on.after", idle_display_fps_on_after, 0);
 
 /* also used in zebra.c */
 volatile int idle_globaldraw_disable = 0;
@@ -143,6 +144,8 @@
 static int idle_countdown_display_off_prev = 50;
 static int idle_countdown_globaldraw_prev = 50;
 static int idle_countdown_clrscr_prev = 50;
+static int idle_countdown_fps = 50;
+static int idle_countdown_fps_prev = 50;
 
 /* this will block all Canon drawing routines when the camera is idle */
 /* (workaround for 50D) */
@@ -154,7 +157,7 @@
 
 int idle_is_powersave_enabled()
 {
-    return idle_display_dim_after || idle_display_turn_off_after || idle_display_global_draw_off_after;
+    return idle_display_dim_after || idle_display_turn_off_after || idle_display_global_draw_off_after || idle_display_fps_on_after;
 }
 
 int idle_is_powersave_enabled_on_info_disp_key()
@@ -166,7 +169,8 @@
 {
     return (idle_display_dim_after && !idle_countdown_display_dim_prev) ||
            (idle_display_turn_off_after && !idle_countdown_display_off_prev) ||
-           (idle_display_global_draw_off_after && !idle_countdown_globaldraw_prev);
+           (idle_display_global_draw_off_after && !idle_countdown_globaldraw_prev) ||
+           (idle_display_fps_on_after && !idle_countdown_fps_prev);
 }
 
 void idle_force_powersave_in_1s()
@@ -174,6 +178,7 @@
     idle_countdown_display_off = MIN(idle_countdown_display_off, 10);
     idle_countdown_display_dim = MIN(idle_countdown_display_dim, 10);
     idle_countdown_globaldraw  = MIN(idle_countdown_globaldraw, 10);
+    idle_countdown_fps         = MIN(idle_countdown_fps, 10);
 }
 
 void idle_force_powersave_now()
@@ -181,6 +186,7 @@
     idle_countdown_display_off = MIN(idle_countdown_display_off, 1);
     idle_countdown_display_dim = MIN(idle_countdown_display_dim, 1);
     idle_countdown_globaldraw  = MIN(idle_countdown_globaldraw, 1);
+    idle_countdown_fps         = MIN(idle_countdown_fps, 1);
 }
 
 int handle_powersave_key(struct event * event)
@@ -229,6 +235,7 @@
     idle_countdown_display_off = sensor_status ? 25 : idle_display_turn_off_after * 10;
     idle_countdown_display_dim = sensor_status ? 25 : idle_display_dim_after * 10;
     idle_countdown_globaldraw  = sensor_status ? 25 : idle_display_global_draw_off_after * 10;
+    idle_countdown_fps         = sensor_status ? 25 : idle_display_fps_on_after * 10;
 
     if (reason == -2345) // disable powersave during recording
         return;
@@ -379,6 +386,16 @@
         idle_globaldraw_disable--;
 }
 
+void idle_fps_en()
+{
+    set_config_var("fps.override", 1);
+}
+
+void idle_fps_dis()
+{
+    set_config_var("fps.override", 0);
+}
+
 #ifdef CONFIG_KILL_FLICKER
 
 static void black_bars_50D()
@@ -463,6 +480,11 @@
     if (idle_display_global_draw_off_after)
         idle_action_do(&idle_countdown_globaldraw, &idle_countdown_globaldraw_prev, idle_globaldraw_dis, idle_globaldraw_en);
 
+    #ifdef FEATURE_FPS_OVERRIDE
+    if (idle_display_fps_on_after)
+        idle_action_do(&idle_countdown_fps, &idle_countdown_fps_prev, idle_fps_en, idle_fps_dis);
+    #endif
+
     /* zebra.c */
     extern int clearscreen;
     if (clearscreen == 2) // clear overlay when idle
@@ -611,6 +633,17 @@
             .help = "Turn off GlobalDraw when idle, to save some CPU cycles.",
             //~ .edit_mode = EM_MANY_VALUES,
         },
+       #ifdef FEATURE_FPS_OVERRIDE
+        {
+            .name = "Turn on FPS override",
+            .priv           = &idle_display_fps_on_after,
+            .update         = idle_display_feature_print,
+            .select         = idle_timeout_toggle,
+            .max            = 900,
+            .icon_type      = IT_PERCENT_LOG_OFF,
+            .help = "Turn on FPS override when idle, to save some CPU cycles.",
+        },
+       #endif
         MENU_EOL
     },
   }
@@ -633,5 +666,7 @@
 void idle_globaldraw_en() { }
 void idle_force_powersave_now() { }
 void idle_force_powersave_in_1s() { }
+void idle_fps_en() { }
+void idle_fps_dis() { }
 #endif 
 
Title: Canon EOS M5 ?
Post by: longpvo on November 09, 2016, 06:26:07 AM
Can I install ML on the new M5 ? Looks a great combination for product photography (custom cropmark/ghost image + focus stack)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 09, 2016, 09:45:44 PM
M5 and EOS M are playing different games. EOS M shares codebase with Canon DSLRs. M5 shares with Canon's Point-and-Shoot. It would be quite a big task to port. Look for CHDK port instead.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: longpvo on November 24, 2016, 10:26:22 AM
I meant the EOS M5, there is a difference ? ..
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 24, 2016, 02:10:09 PM
I meant EOS M5, too ...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: funkysound on November 26, 2016, 10:49:06 AM
I just realized that "movie crop mode" does not show up under Modified if I use it. Is it supposed to be this way or does it just happen with my M?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on November 26, 2016, 12:20:21 PM
To appear in the Modified menu, an item must also have a CONFIG_INT entry (to be saved in ML config file). Otherwise it doesn't know which is the default state, so it can't tell whether it was modified or not.

You'll need to use a new variable (other than video_mode_crop, which is global and updated from Canon settings aka properties).

Fairly easy coding task, although it requires a little attention to details.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on November 27, 2016, 10:38:21 PM
Wasn't this (crop mode) something that had an issue on EOS M? It got reset on restart or something.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on November 27, 2016, 10:47:18 PM
Then, adding a config entry will solve that as well.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on November 27, 2016, 11:06:32 PM
I believe that the problem was that if you turn on crop mode then switching to a non ML card, you get stuck in crop mode for video. Yep--just tried it. Put camera in crop mode, remove the card, restart the camera and it stays in crop mode.

Would it be possible to turn off crop mode on shutdown then turn it back to the desired state from the configuration file on start up? Of course this wouldn't help if the camera crashes.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on November 27, 2016, 11:39:08 PM
Should work if you call movie_crop_hack_disable() from ml_shutdown.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on November 29, 2016, 07:02:07 AM
Should work if you call movie_crop_hack_disable() from ml_shutdown.

Yes it does.

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/776/disables-crop-mode-hack-when-turning/diff

Next we can take a look at the Modified menu thing.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on November 30, 2016, 08:28:11 AM
So close. Just need to figure out how to read the config file and switch to the saved mode when restarting the camera. The movie_crop_hack_disable() from ml_shutdown trick works great when switching to non-ML cards but we should be able to restore Movie crop mode if that's what was saved in the config file.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5810/31186861352_0641b23c5b.jpg)

https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/commits/bca4abfb0e8d9c63bfcf8fc244bb2db32fbb9c15
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on December 06, 2016, 08:07:14 PM
Just discovered that Canon released a firmware update for the EOSM on November 29.

Quote
Firmware Version 2.0.3 incorporates the following fix:

Corrects a phenomenon in which when using the camera with the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM or EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS II USM lens, even if lens aberration correction is set to "Enable", correction will not be applied.

Looks like the same update that the 100D, 650D, 700D, 70D and perhaps others got recently.

No big deal but porting a minor firmware update might be an interesting advanced beginner project. (Is that an oxymoron?)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: cluna on December 12, 2016, 12:58:22 AM
hey so I went to uninstall ml and I did something wrong now I'm stuck when I try to turn it on the light just flashes green with a black screen but if I take out the sd card and battery and only put the battery back in it will start up any ideas ?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on December 12, 2016, 07:21:53 AM
@cluna

The bootflags on your card and camera are still active. If you put in a card that doesn't have the bootflag set it should work fine. If you want to uninstall ML properly, put ML back on your card and run the install process (firmware update) again but wait 1 minute before restarting the camera. There is a countdown timer on the bottom of the install screen. That will remove the bootflags from both the camera and card.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: branex on December 20, 2016, 06:27:30 PM
Hi. Long used ML on different cameras. Very interested in the question. Is there a possibility of follow focus like other cameras. It's just the perfect camera for gimbal. And it would be nice to control the lens without an additional servo. Sorry for the quality of English.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on December 20, 2016, 07:17:25 PM
Is there a possibility of follow focus like other cameras.

Yes, you need to turn on Movie Servo AF from the Canon movie menu. When it is disabled a shutter half-press will trigger the auto focus.

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/1/778/30926637674_b51b5dbcf6.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: branex on December 21, 2016, 06:38:55 AM
Thank you dfort. No. I need to continuously focus as SLR cameras canon. Full manual control of the servo. There's tracking focus(follow focus) is implemented with buttons up/down and left/right - tab in the ML menu "focus". And mirrorless the tab "focus" - only DOF.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Pharinen on December 21, 2016, 10:22:46 AM
(I don't know if this is any new info to you guys but I found it quite interesting.)

I found out that JPEG buffer is almost unlimited* when shooting stills in video mode. Raw buffer depth is the same.

I know there is a crop(either 4:3 or 16:9) and file size is slightly smaller(around 5-10%) but it still doesn't explain to me why I can only get 3 JPEG in a row(without slowdown) in photo mode. Even with the lowest quality JPEGs! Maybe there is some logical reason and I'm just being dumb. Don't be harsh on me. xD

I don't know if this is any useful info for the development but I thought I would share this. :)

E: *I tested this a bit more. It is not quite unlimited as I first though but it's still much better than in photo mode. Buffer depth seems best in 4:3 video mode. I can get around 75 shots(shooting large jpegs) in a row without slowdown after formatting and reboot. After that I can get roughly 25 shot bursts. In 16:9 mode it seems to be slightly worse weirdly(bigger crop). I only have 40 MB/s card though, maybe it is better with faster card.
E2: Shooting medium or small size jpegs buffer seems almost unlimited. Got over 150 shots and I stopped myself. Didn't want to ruin my shutter any more. :D
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: pokepe on December 21, 2016, 05:30:49 PM
(I don't know if this is any new info to you guys but I found it quite interesting.)

I found out that JPEG buffer is almost unlimited* when shooting stills in video mode. Raw buffer depth is the same.

I know there is a crop(either 4:3 or 16:9) and file size is slightly smaller(around 5-10%) but it still doesn't explain to me why I can only get 3 JPEG in a row(without slowdown) in photo mode. Even with the lowest quality JPEGs! Maybe there is some logical reason and I'm just being dumb. Don't be harsh on me. xD

I don't know if this is any useful info for the development but I thought I would share this. :)

E: *I tested this a bit more. It is not quite unlimited as I first though but it's still much better than in photo mode. Buffer depth seems best in 4:3 video mode. I can get around 75 shots(shooting large jpegs) in a row without slowdown after formatting and reboot. After that I can get roughly 25 shot bursts. In 16:9 mode it seems to be slightly worse weirdly(bigger crop). I only have 40 MB/s card though, maybe it is better with faster card.
E2: Shooting medium or small size jpegs buffer seems almost unlimited. Got over 150 shots and I stopped myself. Didn't want to ruin my shutter any more. :D

Because in movie mode, the lens aberration only correct the peripheral illumination, chromatic does not.
Correct peripheral illumination seem doesn't affect process speed, so leave it always enable.(EF-M 22mm has strong light fall-off)
In photo mode, disable chromatic aberration in Lens aberration correction will help, set L-size and low quality jpeg give me unlimited buffer.(with fast sd card like sandisk extreme pro)

Set higher ISO and NR also affect process speed.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on December 21, 2016, 07:03:49 PM
Full manual control of the servo.

In that case, no.

https://builds.magiclantern.fm/features.html

However, there is a work in progress that might change that if someone can follow a1ex's instructions better than I:

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/748/focus-backend-updates-precise-focus/diff

Just out of curiosity, how do you plan to follow focus manually on a gimbal without some sort of a remote control? Seems like the EOSM AF controls would work better for that kind of work. A light touch on the LCD is all that's needed to change the focus area, that's even better than on the C100.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: branex on December 21, 2016, 07:53:13 PM
Eosm not expensive. I would have just soldered the contacts in it. And would be brought to the place of management. (Did it with a 550d and 5d2). There would be the possibility to smoothly adjust the area of focus. Besides camera size and weight allow you for brachial rig to make a great stabilizer. Most importantly the ability to shoot in Raw on interlaced enlargement up to 1700*600(35 MB/sec). And the comb can be removed by using an anamorphic lens(it would increase the amount of information in the horizon, and it is not necessary to approximate ~of 1.66 x in the vertical(let me use the 1.33x Slr magic or equivalents). The output is a high dynamic range, color and high resolution(with good quantization and detail, with smart stretch to 4k).
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 21, 2016, 10:56:04 PM
... Seems like the EOSM AF controls would work better for that kind of work. A light touch on the LCD is all that's needed to change the focus area, that's even better than on the C100.

Agreed -- In fact that's exactly what I'm aiming for (or at least trying) to make the EOSM this little toy that can bode well with the Ronin-MX espcially while in AF for certain situations!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Pharinen on December 22, 2016, 12:08:41 AM
Because in movie mode, the lens aberration only correct the peripheral illumination, chromatic does not.
Correct peripheral illumination seem doesn't affect process speed, so leave it always enable.(EF-M 22mm has strong light fall-off)
In photo mode, disable chromatic aberration in Lens aberration correction will help, set L-size and low quality jpeg give me unlimited buffer.(with fast sd card like sandisk extreme pro)

Set higher ISO and NR also affect process speed.
Oh I see... I knew I didn't think of something. I bet they even mention about that in Canon's manual.  :-[
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 02, 2017, 06:21:18 PM
Anyone know who Eosm Developer is on Bitbucket? I'd like to buy him a beer!

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/792/update-to-eosm-firmware-revision-203/diff
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 02, 2017, 06:31:31 PM
Any reason to upgrade to 2.0.3? Saw that only 1 lens compatibility was added.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: garry23 on January 02, 2017, 07:10:34 PM
I hope someone can help.

I haven't used my EOSM for a while, but thought I would try my Auto bracketing script.

I am using a Sigma 10-20mm AF lens on the Canon lens mount.

I'm using the latest EOSM nightly.

My script loads OK but when it should be driving the lens, the on/off light rapidly flashes, but with no lens move.

The script works ok on my 5D3.

I thought someone one told me that the EOSM should drive a normal, ie non-EOSM, lens, ie via the Canon mount.

Any feedback welcome.

Cheers

Garry
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 03, 2017, 04:31:13 AM
@garry23 - You might need one of the lua fix versions that hasn't made it into the nightly builds yet. The EOSM wildlife trap (https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/downloads/EOSM_wildlife_trap_2016-10-23.zip) build that is in my download page might work for you. If not I can try to see if there are newer lua fixes. Oh and yes, I got the lua test script on the EOSM to drive EF lenses via the Canon adapter but it doesn't seem to work with EF-M lenses.

Any reason to upgrade to 2.0.3? Saw that only 1 lens compatibility was added.

Is there any reason to climb a mountain other that because it is there? I think it was cool that someone jumped in and made a firmware update port as a first project. Maybe solving the shutter-bug and getting mv1080 raw video mode working on the EOSM will be next? Maybe I'm just dreaming?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: garry23 on January 03, 2017, 08:24:42 AM
@dfort

Many thanks for the wildlife version. This version drives the lens OK :), but my script that works OK on the 5D3 does erratic movements now. I need to look at the script and understand why.

I'll report progress.

Cheers

Garry
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: garry23 on January 03, 2017, 09:46:41 AM
@dfort

I tried your EOSM build on this simple test script, which only move the lens one way until a condition is meet.

All it does is flash the on/off light, ie no lens move.

Any ideas  ;)

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function event.keypress(key)
local lens_ok = false
    if key == KEY.INFO then
        repeat
lens_ok = lens.focus(-1,1,false)
until lens.dof_far > 100000
return false -- steal key for testing
    end
end
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: garry23 on January 03, 2017, 10:26:21 AM
@dfort

Even tried this 'improved' test script, as I thought placing the move in the keypress event handler might cause an issue. But still no luc.

Code: [Select]
move_flag = false

function test4key(key)
    if key == KEY.INFO then
     move_flag = true
    return false -- steal key for testing
    else
        return true
    end
end

function move(arg)
local lens_ok = false
    if move_flag == true then
        repeat
            lens_ok = lens.focus(-1,1,false)
        until lens.dof_far > 100000
        move_flag = false
    end
end
event.keypress = test4key
event.shoot_task = move
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 03, 2017, 12:42:13 PM
Is there any reason to climb a mountain other that because it is there?
Oh, c'mon, really? :) :) :)  ::) :D
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: garry23 on January 03, 2017, 01:04:44 PM
OK I admit I'm stupid, have a lot going on in my life, and am still learning.

So please put me out of my misery  ;)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 03, 2017, 06:30:29 PM
OK I admit I'm stupid, have a lot going on in my life, and am still learning.

My feelings exactly. If your script works on the 5D3 it should work on the EOSM. Do you want to try it on a test build of the non-cpu manual lens lua (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=18083.0) branch?

Oh, c'mon, really? :) :) :)  ::) :D

Just saying that doing the firmware update just because it is a challenge and sharing it with the community is in the spirit of a hobby project like this.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 03, 2017, 06:35:43 PM
Just saying that doing the firmware update just because it is a challenge and sharing it with the community is in the spirit of a hobby project like this.
I agree, although you did not answer my question, or was the joke actually the answer, like nothing more? :)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: garry23 on January 03, 2017, 07:35:22 PM
@dfort

I may do,  however, I'm tempted to 'just' keep the EOSM for shutter and shutterless timelapse, and do the heavy lifting, i.e. all my scripts, on the 5D3 and IR-50D.

I must say I find the EOSM very fiddly to use.

Cheers

Garry
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 03, 2017, 08:14:16 PM
...was the joke actually the answer...

Pretty much. That firmware update was done for several cameras but it doesn't give most users a good reason to install it.

Quote
Corrects a phenomenon in which when using the camera with the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM or EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS II USM lens, even if lens aberration correction is set to "Enable", correction will not be applied.

Though this is an opportunity for users who want to get some porting practice by taking on a relatively simple firmware update to begin with.

BTW--one of the first things I tested was the shutter-bug and it is still there. Rats!

@garry23 -- I encountered issues building the manual_lens_info branch. Several modules are not compiling. Need to look into it further before I can get you a test build.

[EDIT] Oh yeah--the problem is documented so it looks like that branch is currently broken.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=18083.msg176957#msg176957
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 03, 2017, 09:38:58 PM
Pretty much. That firmware update was done for several cameras but it doesn't give most users a good reason to install it.
BTW--one of the first things I tested was the shutter-bug and it is still there. Rats!
I love updates don't get me wrong, but given the age of the camera (launched in 2012) and the poor support Canon gave it, I'm rather uneasy to flash away.
Too bad about the shutter-bug :(

That being said, is the downgrade procedure straight away (eg. I update to 2.0.3 and I don't like something, I just put 2.0.2 on the card and "update" ) ?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 03, 2017, 09:54:11 PM
...That being said, is the downgrade procedure straight away (eg. I update to 2.0.3 and I don't like something, I just put 2.0.2 on the card and "update" ) ?

That should do the trick as it currently does with others afaik inlcluding 5D3, 7D, etc...
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 03, 2017, 10:16:11 PM
5D3 with firmware 1.3.3/1.3.4 does *not* allow in-cam downgrade to 1.1.3 or 1.2.3 ....
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 04, 2017, 01:25:29 AM
Either Walter is going off topic again or maybe he found a way to change an EOSM to a 5D3 with just a firmware upgrade.

I went through the 2.0.2 -> 2.0.3 -> 2.0.2 drill and there were no problems. Just make sure your battery has enough juice before you start.

[EDIT] That tip is for users who haven't done Canon firmware updates. Of course @Licaon_Kter knows about charging batteries--he's gone through many charge cycles getting the EOSM to this stage in ML development.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 04, 2017, 04:12:26 AM
Of course @Licaon_Kter knows about charging batteries--he's gone through many charge cycles getting the EOSM to this stage in ML development.
Battery at 100% no matter what!!!
Test some things? Charge to 100%!
Come back after shooting outside? Charge to 100%!

The thing is, this camera has 3 stages: full-white (100% I hope?! when did I charge the battery exactly?), half-yellow (at 50%, right? 50% or 30%? please tell me!?!?) and empty-red (yeah, hey it turned on, let me try anot- oh fffs)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: alias on January 07, 2017, 06:40:04 AM
hi
how i can update ml on may cam
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 07, 2017, 07:33:51 AM
Backup and delete *.FIR, autoexec.bin, ML directory. Copy nightly build content to card.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 07, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
Put new version on card, use!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: alias on January 07, 2017, 11:32:44 PM
thank u
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: matyineni on January 11, 2017, 12:36:37 PM
Hi. Recently I "inherited" my dad's EOS M camera and I want to use it to some amature film projects. The reason why I wanted to keep it is because this hack and the RAW video, but i noticed that in the latest build ther's no option to shoot in RAW, only in 3xH.264. Is there any way for me to shoot in RAW, or just use the H.264? Also what lens and basic settings you guys recommend? (Have the kit lens and an ef adapter)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: j_szczygiel on January 12, 2017, 12:12:44 AM
Hi. What's the highest available video resolution when shooting Raw and h264 on Eos M?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 12, 2017, 10:14:15 AM
Hi. What's the highest available video resolution when shooting Raw and h264 on Eos M?
H.264 is [email protected] max, as Canon does
RAW it depends, do test


i noticed that in the latest build ther's no option to shoot in RAW, only in 3xH.264.
Did you enabled the MLV_REC/MLV_SND modules first and restarted the camera, right?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: j_szczygiel on January 12, 2017, 02:28:02 PM
H.264 is [email protected] max, as Canon does
RAW it depends, do test

I'll be pleased if you can check that as the camera seems to be a perfect entry-level gear to me :) There are no strict informations like "resolution + codec + fps" and eventually recording time, crop (if applies) for EOS M in the "[ML] Canon EOS Features Comparison" chart. I guess it would be helpful to others too. That would be awesome if you can share some DNG and H.264 files in best quality.

Also, is there a significant DR improvement when shooting in H.264 with ML?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 13, 2017, 08:06:11 AM
@j_szczygiel since you are a newcomer I'd advise you to read through this discussion and search the forum for other EOSM related posts. I too got this camera as an introduction to Magic Lantern and while the cost/size/performance ratio is impressive, it has some severe limitations though it has gotten significantly better since the camera was first ported.

Video shooters wanting raw will be disappointed that it will not shoot mv1080 like the other cameras--at least not yet (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16608.0).

Still photographers who want to use compact EF-M zoom lenses will swear at the still unresolved shutter-bug (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug).

However, it is a fun little camera that is inexpensive enough to risk bricking for the experience of learning how to use Magic Lantern. In fact it already looks like a small brick.

Anyone feeling adventurous? @garry23 -- You asked for it! I put all the latest experimental stuff you could possibly want to play with into one build.

This started out with someone who just signed up on bitbucket and the first pull request was a complete firmware update from 2.0.2 to 2.0.3. I don't know who this person is but he/she did an excellent job. It works so well that as far as I can tell everything works as well as the current 2.0.2. In order to encourage EOSM users to give it a test drive I pimped it with all sorts of goodies and posted it on my bitbucket download area:

https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/downloads

If you prefer rolling your own, the branch is in my repository:

https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/branch/update-to-EOSM.203_experimental_branch

Some things are working great like crop_rec and 10bit/12bit. Other things are highly experimental like simultaneously recording H.264 and MLV. I got it working once with raw_rec (MLV Lite) but not with mlv_rec. I also defined RAW_DEBUG_TYPE which lets you select the raw type (for PREFERRED_RAW_TYPE) from the Debug menu if you want to experiment with that while testing out mv1080 video. In order to run the manual lens lua script the latest lua fix is included. Oh yeah and that bulb_nd module is something that keeps coming up in the forum. It is in the code base but not activated so let's activate it and try it out.

The download package has the ML folders inside of the zip package, sort of like a TurDunkin. That's because I also included the Canon firmware 202 and 203 files so you can go back and forth easily. You can actually copy both firmware updates to the same card--but don't mix it up with the ML-SETUP.FIR file because that won't work.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/400/32124987402_ee399f6dae.jpg)

If you just want to take a peak of coming attractions, that's fine too. Going back to the previous firmware is easy. Just make sure you always do a firmware upgrade/downgrade with a freshly charged battery.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/652/31463973423_fde938d038.jpg)

This is all experimental stuff so the chances of having something going terribly wrong is greater than with a nightly build. Though I've got 4 EOSM's and have done some crazy things to these cameras without incident.

If something starts going weird and you feel you discovered a bug do everyone a favor, reset your Canon settings and delete the ML configuration file and try to reproduce the issue before making a bug report. Learned that lesson the hard way with these experimental features!

A special note about the way crop_rec works on the EOSM. You'll need to use software that can handle the focus pixels for this format. The one that is currently working properly is Danne's cr2hdr.app (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15108.0) which already has a special focus pixel map file for this format. If you want to use MLVFS (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0) you'll need to install the EOSM_crop_rec_mv720_combo_map_file (https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/ml-focus-pixels/src/22bc5a79967ce51668fa7e733a4bf67d1d8eb3a3/focus_pixel_map_files/fpm_archived/EOSM_crop_rec_mv720_combo_map_file/?at=default) in the MLVFS application. I'm not sure if MLVProducer (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15271.0) has the new map file but the developer, AWPStar, is usually quick to respond to user's requests.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 13, 2017, 08:18:57 AM
Hell fuckin' YEAH and I'm definitely jumping onto this EOSM.203 wagon and THANKS so much for just being you, Dan!

Here's one for you -- "Don't just risk anything, take risk with everything!" and I usually go by that motto!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 13, 2017, 10:07:20 AM
...reset your Canon settings and delete the ML configuration file...

As in 'Clear all camera settings' or 'Clear all Custom Functions. (C.Fn)' or both?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 13, 2017, 10:39:22 AM
Lovely stuff, Dan. Felt wonderful to upgrade to 203 and now after resetting Canon settings (did both 'Clear all camera settings' & 'Clear all Custom Functions. (C.Fn)' just to be safe) and yes I took note (photo from iPhone) of each settings so I can have them back the way I had them. I noticed some differentials in Canon's settings between 202 and 203. No big deal I guess.

Off I go installing ML with ease and restarted camera after loading required modules and ran few tests files (couldn't get MLV to work keep getting 'Threads failed to start')...

*edit* I remember @Danne mentioned that it may have something to do with while having MLV Sound enabled on so I turned that off and voila MLV works like normal.

*edit2* I also learned that if I disable raw_twk.mo then enable MLV Sound which allows for recording with audio even in 10-bit but then I would have to re-enable raw_twk.mo to get preview to work -- is there a workaround for this to get audio included or at least to work with raw_twk.mo or not yet?
).

 ...with RAW and noticed a bug already when activating mlv_play.mo and is reproducible.

Here it is in order:

•Record RAW and then press play which would give you the black screen (not frozen tho) and shutter button gets you out of it.

•Then here comes the orange light next to the on/off switch constantly blinking indication something (tried turning off to no avail) so battery pull does the trick here.

•Turn camera back on and go ahead press 'Play' which then would finally preview files (even in 10-bit  8)) and haven't seen any corrupted footage as of yet.

Getting late out here and need some sleep but felt this was worth to note even tho it's minimal but will test more thoroughly tomorrow and the rest of this weekend.

Thanks again, Dan!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Danne on January 13, 2017, 11:04:06 AM
Here is another framegrab shot in mv1080(1728x972)10bit
Shot with "Simultaneous H.264 and raw recording to get into mv1080 video mode"

Shortened original MLV(two dng files)
https://bitbucket.org/Dannephoto/magic-lantern/downloads/mv1080eosm.MLV

Original dng(altered in acr)
https://bitbucket.org/Dannephoto/magic-lantern/downloads/mv1080eosm_000001.dng

Run it with latest mlv_dump like follows:
Code: [Select]
mlv_dump --black-fix=2047 --white-fix=15000 --cs2x2 --dng input.MLV

Downscaling isn,t justifying the output. Download original PNG here
https://bitbucket.org/Dannephoto/magic-lantern/downloads/mv1080eosm.png
mv1080(1728x972)10bit
(https://s24.postimg.org/mvvjqkkbp/mv1080eosm_000000.png)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Pharinen on January 13, 2017, 04:40:13 PM
mv1080(1728x972)10bit would be super awesome! How long recordings(in theory) could you expect in 24/25p? :)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 13, 2017, 08:49:22 PM
The EOSM has very similar specifications to the 700D as far as image size and SD card write speed is concerned. On that camera I'm getting from 12 sec. (mlv_rec with mlv_snd on 48kHz) to 15 sec. (raw_rec) with 10bit at 23.98 fps.

Danne, what settings are you using? I got mv1080 working a couple of times but not consistently and certainly nothing as impressive as the results you are getting. Of course that cat of yours is also awesome but that's besides the point.

That experimental EOS.203 build I posted also has some code that isn't working on the EOSM yet, like the lossless compression for the silent module (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=18443.0), just to see if that is causing issues with unsupported cameras. Some of this might be creating issues that have nothing to do with the 2.0.2 -> 2.0.3 firmware update so I added a plain vanilla build of the Update to EOSM firmware revision 2.0.3 (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/792/update-to-eosm-firmware-revision-203/diff) pull request to my download page (https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/downloads).

@DeafEyeJedi -- I was able to reproduce the 'Threads failed to start' issue you reported. Probably the main reason you would choose mlv_rec over raw_rec (MLV Lite) is in order to record sync sound and having to off mlv_snd is a rather big problem. However, I tracked it down to raw_twk. Try turning off that module. Yeah, I know you need it for in camera playback but it is still experimental.

By the way, this issue doesn't have anything to do with the 2.0.3 update, I was able to reproduce it on 2.0.2.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Danne on January 13, 2017, 09:26:16 PM
My cat is deeply involved in compiling right now ;).
Anyway. Settings used.
- raw_rec, highest resolution 10bit
- H.264 bitrate set to 0.1(I just leave it on and start stop raw_rec while it,s running)

Caveats:
- Frames comes out with bad white and black levels. Easily fixed with latest mlv_dump
- A lot of frames comes out corrupted and in choppy order
- chroma smooth is prone to crap out in blown highlights delivering green dots
- mlvfs could be a solution but it,s not possible to alter black and white levels to the dng files. Turns black.
 
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 13, 2017, 11:53:50 PM
Thanks for the tips, got it working--sort of. Lots of crazy frames but the good ones are very good.

- Frames comes out with bad white and black levels. Easily fixed with latest mlv_dump

Is there a magic number for the EOSM? I used 2048 and that looked pretty much ok.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Danne on January 13, 2017, 11:57:43 PM
Cool, yes, the good ones looks great.
I run this command
Code: [Select]
mlv_dump --black-fix=2047 --white-fix=15000 --cs2x2 --dng input.MLVAlso added black/white level handling from mlv_dump menu inside cr2hdr.app.

Now how lift this from proof of concept to something fully working?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 14, 2017, 01:18:26 AM
So for the EOSM shot in 10-bit -- the magic number for the black-fix should be set to 2047 (not 2048?) or was that a typo?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 21, 2017, 08:10:36 PM
So far there has been 32 downloads of the EOSM.203 build and 52 downloads of the EOSM.203 experimental version and still no reports either here or on the pull request (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/792/update-to-eosm-firmware-revision-203/diff)?

Even if you find nothing unusual to report that's worth reporting. On bitbucket you can give it your stamp of approval to help move this forward.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: KawlunD on January 22, 2017, 06:35:11 AM
Hey y'all.

First time poster, long time lurker.

Basically jumping to the point now, I recently made the jump into buying an EOS M with the intent of installing ML. To my surprise, the seller of the camera already updated the thing to 2.03. Now I have been reading about 2.03 builds and such but I guess I'm a bit slow to these things. Is there a way to install ML on 2.03 or are the experimental builds just ML pre-baked into the 2.03 update?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 22, 2017, 03:58:40 PM
just pop Canon official 2.0.2 on the card and downgrade.

Or use the experimental 2.0.3 from @dfort https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/downloads
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: swschilke on January 24, 2017, 11:34:52 PM
Dear *,

I've got an EOS M with 2.02 Firmware and I wonder if the MagicLantern gives me Clean HDMI out (and do I have to record with / on the camera?) and no time barrier while recording (or capturing the hdmi out signal), i.e. the 30 minute max recording time.

Does the latest build work nicely or any things I should better be aware of?

Kindest regards

sws
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 26, 2017, 07:42:27 AM
@a1ex -- saw your request to run the stubs API test from the selftest module, from the latest lua_fix build for the 100D and was thinking that maybe this could also benefit the EOSM so I tried but it got stuck here and needed a battery pull to shut down:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/508/32377828982_a59200fea3.jpg)

It got quite far and it looked like it was saving a 2GB file but the card had no log file.

MagicLantern gives me Clean HDMI out

Yes it does, just turn global draw off. However it isn't a 1920x1080 signal, it is slightly smaller so you'll need to resize it in post. Also these cameras put out 8bit 4:2:2 so take that into consideration too. Another issue is that the camera LCD goes blank when an HDMI cable is plugged in and there's a slight time lag on the output. Finally, no audio through the HDMI. Oh, and if you want to record in the camera at the same time my understanding is that the signal shrinks to SD.

(and do I have to record with / on the camera?)

What is your question?

no time barrier while recording (or capturing the hdmi out signal), i.e. the 30 minute max recording time.

The camera still has a maximum time of 30 minutes before the power savings kicks in and turns off the display so you'll have to do a shutter half-press to keep it alive. The bad news is that the shutter half-press will also momentarily turn on the screen graphics.

Does the latest build work nicely or any things I should better be aware of?

The shutter-bug  (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/1893/eos-m-shutter-bug)is a pain for still photographers and lack of mv1080 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16608.0) sucks if you want to record raw video. Then there are these bug reports (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues?status=new&status=open&q=eos%20m). Still, for the current price that these cameras go for we shouldn't complain too much.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on January 26, 2017, 10:38:07 AM
@a1ex -- saw your request to run the stubs API test from the selftest module, from the latest lua_fix

Not a bad idea, since you said it had problems on 2.0.3 as well. If it still locks up after the latest fix, you could try commenting out the troublesome test (stub_test_exmem or parts of it, maybe other tests if it still locks up somewhere else) until you narrow down the issue.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 26, 2017, 07:09:21 PM
Commenting out stub_test_exmem on the latest lua_fix commit did it, though I should narrow it down to find out that's causing it to hang. Everything looked good until the end of the log:

Code: [Select]
[Pass] dialog->type => 'DIALOG'
       GUI_Control(BGMT_MENU, 0, 0, 0); msleep(500);
[Pass] MENU_MODE => 0x0
[Pass] PLAY_MODE => 0x0
       SW1(1,100)
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x1
       SW1(0,100)
[Pass] HALFSHUTTER_PRESSED => 0x0
[Pass] is_play_mode() => 0x1
[FAIL] is_pure_play_photo_mode() => 0x0
[Pass] is_pure_play_movie_mode() => 0x0
[Pass] is_play_mode() => 0x1
[Pass] is_pure_play_photo_mode() => 0x0
[Pass] is_pure_play_movie_mode() => 0x0
[Pass] is_play_mode() => 0x1
[Pass] is_pure_play_photo_mode() => 0x0
[Pass] is_pure_play_movie_mode() => 0x1
[Pass] is_play_mode() => 0x1
[Pass] is_pure_play_photo_mode() => 0x0
[FAIL] is_pure_play_movie_mode() => 0x1
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on January 26, 2017, 07:35:12 PM
Latest commit might help with the last error; if not, the advice from the 100D thread applies here as well.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: cavcavictor on January 26, 2017, 09:14:10 PM
Hello,
I am not sure if there isn't an answer to my question on this thread already, but if I buy a Canon EOS M via Ebay, from Japan (which has only japanese and english languages), can I install ML on it? Is the japanese version compatible with ML?
Sorry if it is a dumb question, I tried to find the answer for about 2 hours using google, but I couldn't.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 26, 2017, 09:40:18 PM
That commit got through more tests, lots of UNCACHEABLE Fails but those might be the timer errors that can be ignored? It still gets stuck on stub_test_exmem and I'm still trying to narrow down where the problem is.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on January 26, 2017, 09:47:06 PM
When talking about computers, cache (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cache_memory) usually refers to memory, not timers.

What's the status of the Debug -> Free Memory dialog box?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 26, 2017, 10:13:00 PM
Free Memory -> 191K + 3406K

I put the latest couple of logs in the dropbox folder (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/m17imm8wqavd1q3/AADOhSg95KRemu6WGc9zRqgaa?dl=0).

[EDIT] Ran another test and checked the memory after the test finished. Don't know if this is significant:

Free Memory -> 185K + 3364K

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on January 26, 2017, 10:31:16 PM
Click it.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 26, 2017, 11:23:59 PM
Oops, I was trying to figure out what was tripping up stub_test_exmem but couldn't figure it out.

Impossible to do a screenshot of this is it?

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/663/31698776284_6516ea4c75_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 26, 2017, 11:41:39 PM
Another iPhone screenshot. This is after running the stubs test without stub_test_exmem:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/409/31698936804_386e9d2f5c_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on January 26, 2017, 11:41:56 PM
Indeed, looks like a bug. It works fine on the dm-spy branch on 500D, though...

That red scrollwheel also looks like a bug, and the duplicate menu warning is yet another bug.

If you wait for a few seconds, does it come up with valid numbers for all entries, instead of 0?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 26, 2017, 11:57:22 PM
The red scrollwheel comes on after the screen refresh hack kicks in the first time. That was because the ML menus kept timing out.

After a while some information scrolls by in the console, too fast to read and it doesn't save any log file. Here's what it looks like after it finishes:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/758/32163793010_eaf40d4b4f_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: nikfreak on January 27, 2017, 07:05:26 AM
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on January 27, 2017, 05:00:54 PM
Hello,
I am not sure if there isn't an answer to my question on this thread already, but if I buy a Canon EOS M via Ebay, from Japan (which has only japanese and english languages), can I install ML on it? Is the japanese version compatible with ML?
Sorry if it is a dumb question, I tried to find the answer for about 2 hours using google, but I couldn't.
Thanks.

Sorry, your post was almost lost with all the recent testing.

Yes--One of my EOSM's was purchased from Japan via ebay and there was no problem installing Magic Lantern on it. Make sure it is an original EOS-M and not an EOS-M2, M3, M10 or M5.

On a side note, though it is possible to port ML to the M2 nobody, to my knowledge, has taken on that project. The M2 uses the same sensor as the 100D so the autofocus speed should be improved and it includes built-in Wi-Fi along with some other improvements. Distribution was limited and there are still few of these cameras in North America and Europe where most ML developers are located.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: cavcavictor on January 30, 2017, 08:34:43 PM
Sorry, your post was almost lost with all the recent testing.

Yes--One of my EOSM's was purchased from Japan via ebay and there was no problem installing Magic Lantern on it. Make sure it is an original EOS-M and not an EOS-M2, M3, M10 or M5.

On a side note, though it is possible to port ML to the M2 nobody, to my knowledge, has taken on that project. The M2 uses the same sensor as the 100D so the autofocus speed should be improved and it includes built-in Wi-Fi along with some other improvements. Distribution was limited and there are still few of these cameras in North America and Europe where most ML developers are located.

That's nice. I just ordered it. Can't wait to get it!
Thank you!  :)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: swschilke on February 01, 2017, 11:22:39 PM
@dfort Thank you for your answers

Quote
The camera still has a maximum time of 30 minutes before the power savings kicks in and turns off the display so you'll have to do a shutter half-press to keep it alive. The bad news is that the shutter half-press will also momentarily turn on the screen graphics.

Would it be possible to enable MagicLantern to stop the camera from getting into power saving?

Which Canon Camera (preferable cheap / old  :P) would be best suited as a camera device for recording with an HDMI capture device (Atomos, HDMI Capture cards with USB, ...)? or do you have other recommendations (I have a GH2 as well).

Thank you and kind regards

.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on February 03, 2017, 08:15:28 AM
@swschilke

There have been lots of answers for your questions. Please search the forum.

This topic is for discussing the original mirrorless, Canon EOS-M.

That said, for H.264 recording there is a restart feature and it is possible to use a simple lua script to keep the camera from going to sleep. Neither of these solutions are perfect because they either stop recording or create a glitch that needs to be edited out.

Even if you settle on a way to record over 30 minutes, the EOSM battery has a rather limited run time so you should consider either the AC adapter or some sort of external battery pack. Then there's also the possibility of the sensor overheating and the camera automatically shutting down. Remember, these are still cameras not dedicated video cameras.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: zabenoid on February 05, 2017, 11:20:52 AM
Yo! Is it normal to have a lot of bitmap icons (exp. corr scale mostly, or exp iso) popping momentarily on top of ML settings screen? And is it normal to have several self tests crash the system? And is it ok to have temperatures over 50c constantly?
Thanx in advance!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on February 06, 2017, 12:59:20 AM
Yo! Is it normal to have a lot of bitmap icons (exp. corr scale mostly, or exp iso) popping momentarily on top of ML settings screen?

What you are probably seeing is the refresh that ML is doing to keep the camera from jumping out of the ML menu. Otherwise you have about 5 seconds to find and select a setting. At least that's my guess. A video showing what you are seeing on your screen would help. Just load it up on YouTube or Vimeo and post the link here.

And is it normal to have several self tests crash the system?

Unfortunately yes. The EOSM is very different from the DSLR's so many of the tests don't work on this camera.

And is it ok to have temperatures over 50c constantly?

The sensor temperature reading wasn't working properly on the EOSM (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2596/temp-goes-from-41-c-to-60-c) a while back but it was fixed (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/db40ff86890bb68d6a9016a0bcc3108ad2160d5f). If you have an older build you might be experiencing this. I don't have a camera in front of me right now but I believe that after it has been running for a while the temperature will probably go up to about 50c. That shouldn't be a problem. If it gets too hot it should automatically shut down.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: oKKo on February 16, 2017, 12:05:57 AM
Hello friends. I'm a wedding photographer who is training cinematography. I have a 5dm3 and I'm thinking to buy a second hand eos m for raw video, I think I could record save the date sessions with this camera. I picked this camera because of the small size and also can be installed magic lantern on it. Another reason is my wife. She is learning photography and 5dm3 is too much for her. That camera will help her to learn photography also.

Whatever. :)
My concern is about raw videos' size.

a) For example, 1 minute raw video; how much space will it take?

b) I have this card: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lexar-32GB-SDHC-633X-Professional-UHS-I-U1-Card-LSD32GCB1EU633-/311708743530
How many minutes can I write to this card in total and continuously?

c) What is the exact writing speed of eos m? :)

regards
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 16, 2017, 09:49:36 AM
a) https://github.com/rbrune/mlraw + basic math
b) Not well suited. Max. write speed is about 30 MByte/s. See a)
c) There is no such thing as exact writing speed. Interface is SDR50 and continuous recording will get you somewhere below 40 MByte/s.

Cam should be good for [email protected] with 14 bit RAW.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: slebed on February 22, 2017, 04:15:31 PM
Concerning the ML menu screen, is there a way to extend the time before it goes away?  I believe the current delay is 5 seconds. 
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: josepvm on February 22, 2017, 08:14:31 PM
Use a recent ML build for EOS M. A workaround for this problem was implemented in nightly builds months ago.

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Arte Automobilistica on March 05, 2017, 07:04:22 PM
Hi I have been using Magic lantern on my x4 and 7D for years but have been too scared to load it onto my M due to the shutterbug.

Could someone please clarify:
1. If I install ML on a SD card and only use vintage manual lenses and Efs lenses will my camera stay bug free?
2. If I use another SD card (without ML) when using my Efm zoom lens will my camera stay bug free?

Every time, even after all this time, when I use Magic Lantern I get a thrill!

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on March 06, 2017, 05:25:25 PM
Déjà vu (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9741.msg140865#msg140865)

1. If I install ML on a SD card and only use vintage manual lenses and Efs lenses will my camera stay bug free?
2. If I use another SD card (without ML) when using my Efm zoom lens will my camera stay bug free?

1. Yes
2. Yes

The shutter-bug hasn't been squashed yet but it only shows up with EF-M zoom lenses. They all have IS so we're not really sure if that is causing the problem.

The newer EF-M zoom lenses are collapsible so if you collapse and extend the lens the bug is gone. If you untwist the lens to break the lens to body connection and remount the lens, the shutter-bug is gone. If you start, shutdown and restart in just the right timing the shutter-bug is gone. And if you use Sandisk Extreme PRO UHS-I cards 32GB or smaller, you'll never encounter the shutter-bug.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: garry23 on March 06, 2017, 06:53:15 PM
@dfort

Thanks for the bug correcting tips.

Does the using the 'correct' SD card really work?

Cheers

Garry
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 06, 2017, 07:18:09 PM
...And if you use Sandisk Extreme PRO UHS-I cards 32GB or smaller, you'll never encounter the shutter-bug.

Does the using the 'correct' SD card really work?

Yep. I can confirm this from my own experience and funny thing is I never knew how to produce this shutter-bug until I tried a different brand SD card at a later date since the Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS-I 32GB cards were my first set of SD's to begin with.  :P
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: garry23 on March 06, 2017, 07:32:12 PM
@DeafEyeJedi

Great yo know. As a stills photographer I'm not that interested in large and fast SD cards.

Cheers

Garry
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Danne on March 06, 2017, 07:34:49 PM
Could you try filming crop_rec HDR H.264 in 60fps with that card. I keep getting a frame glitch here and there and maybe it,s card specific. A 10 second clip should do fine.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on March 06, 2017, 09:09:19 PM
Great yo know. As a stills photographer I'm not that interested in large and fast SD cards.
It's not about fast, you'll still be limited by the camera interface, but in this case that brand of cards (and maybe those models exactly, as you can read in the "shutter bug issue") make the camera usable with ML.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Arte Automobilistica on March 06, 2017, 11:52:21 PM
Dfort Thank you 8)
Title: Canon EOS M
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 07, 2017, 12:28:40 AM
Could you try filming crop_rec HDR H.264 in 60fps with that card. I keep getting a frame glitch here and there and maybe it,s card specific. A 10 second clip should do fine.

Sure and here are the files (took two 10 second clips) on each Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS-I 32GB cards w same settings per within ML:

Card #1 (104.8 MB) - https://mega.nz/#!GkdxnQwQ!9q8plzyG56gptQ6xjQ57FS4U6G8mYPK_BnV5SBGaIWE

Card #2 (95 MB) - https://mega.nz/#!WxEQUJaa!nC4LwdMV4dp69C4kYrjBAy6XznDColy6PuqbXqWH8JY
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpetry on March 11, 2017, 07:16:34 PM
Hello. I have an issue with my EOS M after installing ML.
If I shoot in "Photo still mode" (non auto) the images previews on the screen show a blue, green or purple tint.
It's not recorded in the card, the images recorded are perfect, but the camera shows a tinted image for a few seconds. Here's a video of it https://youtu.be/dypKBdqWgb4 (https://youtu.be/dypKBdqWgb4).
Anyone can help? I tried turning off all features of ML but nothing changed.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on March 12, 2017, 10:56:14 PM
Tried to reproduce it but couldn't. Clear all the Canon settings and try it again. That's on the 4th wrench of the Canon menu.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dpetry on March 14, 2017, 12:23:26 AM
Tried to reproduce it but couldn't. Clear all the Canon settings and try it again. That's on the 4th wrench of the Canon menu.
That fixed, I'm feeling a huge noob. Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on March 14, 2017, 12:47:10 AM
No worries -- I've found myself in a few situations where clearing the Canon settings was the fix. Of course the problem is that we don't know which setting was the one that caused the issue in the first place.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: 2blackbar on March 17, 2017, 11:37:37 PM
There is this menu in autoexposure module when you adjust auto ISO values, but its been like 3 years since i tried last time and i could not edit maximum value, only minimum can be changed, it says "use left right for minimum and main dial for maximum" , well, what is main dial ? I cant do anything to change maximum value and i tried all buttons on camera to do it, is it some kind of bug that nobody mentions because no one is using this feature ? Can i somehow edit behaviour of on camera buttons so they will work fully in ML submenus  like this and ill be able to edit maximum value ?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on March 18, 2017, 06:07:07 PM
Known problem, not so many buttons on the camera, maybe this thread will yield something helpful in the future: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=18544.0
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: veryverynew on April 04, 2017, 02:13:13 PM
Hello,

I am reeaally new to magic lantern, I installed it because we are going camping and I want to be able to do long exposures for astro shots. I have ML installed and working, but I cannot for the life of me work out how to dial up the bulb time past 5sec, every button I press in the ML menu when I have Bulb selected takes me to another menu, or the Q button just toggles between off and 5sec.

I am sure I am missing something really obvious, and it is frustrating the crap out of me given I can get 30 second exposures out of the standard options, yet I can't get longer than 5 out of ML.

I am running the latest nightly build.

Thanks for any help or advice.

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: hiamkeiron on April 13, 2017, 08:42:03 PM
Hello,

I am reeaally new to magic lantern, I installed it because we are going camping and I want to be able to do long exposures for astro shots. I have ML installed and working, but I cannot for the life of me work out how to dial up the bulb time past 5sec, every button I press in the ML menu when I have Bulb selected takes me to another menu, or the Q button just toggles between off and 5sec.

I am sure I am missing something really obvious, and it is frustrating the crap out of me given I can get 30 second exposures out of the standard options, yet I can't get longer than 5 out of ML.

I am running the latest nightly build.

Thanks for any help or advice.



1. make sure you on manual photo mode
2. click info until you see the stock canon menu
3. select the shutter speed
4. set it to bulb
5. click info until you see ML screen
6. enter the ML menu
7. Scroll right until you get the camera icon that says "shoot"
8.Scroll downward until you get to bulb timer
9. click on it an set your desired time
10. exit out of menu
11. press shutter half way until you see it counting the seconds

This makes it so you don't have to Keep your finger on the camera button
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: hiamkeiron on April 13, 2017, 08:47:09 PM
Any new news on on the MLV1080 raw recording?
Without binning
Also I've been trying to find out how to install cinestyle onto the eos m so far no luck because most of it requires the eos utility
Does anybody know how?
Title: Build allowing mv1080
Post by: loknar on April 15, 2017, 03:15:44 PM
Hi,
joining (a bit late I know) ML EOS M party :). I want to use it as a travelling camera (with 15-45/3.5-6.3 IS it's mere 430 g and it can do raw), and I'd like to use two modes: mv1080 for wide shots, and 3xcrop for details/tele. I did some tests (https://youtu.be/FyfRVbYHYh8) with crop mode (2496x1044 2.39:1, as in lower resolutions bigger parts of frames are corrupted) and I love quality (although I can get only 68 frames before buffer runs out, but I can live with that, also at frame override to 23.976 i get black stripe on the right, which is not present at native 30 fps).

Concerning mv1080, several months ago there appeared several test builds with mv1080 support when recording along with h264. Some of them were for 2.03 firmware others for 2.02, and to be honest, i got lost at it. So my question is: Can someone direct me to newest(/most stable) build, that allows mv1080 mode? I am getting all shots in pink when using 02/04/2017 "10/12-bit RAW video build" from experiments.

Thank you. :)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: bohus on April 23, 2017, 04:32:29 AM
Hey everybody!

I've been messing with anamorphics on a number of my cameras, and it seems that the EOS M might b e perfect for this kind of shooting. I've tried to enter the pixel dimensions that Tito Farrandans shares in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5vRS5YhZdc

The problem is that I can't dial up the RAW pixel dimensions that he mentions in his video. I get a list of various choices, but the numbers he uses aren't on that list.

Also, I shoot c-mount lenses with my EOS M using 3x movie crop. Will I be able to use a cmount lens with movie crop mode and with anamorphic settings? Or do the anamorphic settings take the place of what 3x movie crop is doing.

Hope that my description here isn't too confusing. Any ideas? 

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on April 23, 2017, 08:29:13 AM
If you have a 2x anamorphic just use the highest resolution 4:3 image you can. You don't have to match his numbers. You can set 4:3 for 2x or you can set it to 16:9 for a 1.5 or 1.33x lens. Or whatever you want.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: bohus on April 23, 2017, 04:09:47 PM
Hey - that makes sense! I've got a 1.33x lens, so I appreciate the additional advice. My experiments last night seem to have worked with some ad libbed settings, but I'll try again given your thoughts. Thanks for such a zippy answer!

One more weird thing - and I don't know if this is just me - I installed the latest build, and it doesn't appear that 3x crop is sticky. i.e. I have to re-activate it every time I turn the camera back on. Anyone else?

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Johncee on April 29, 2017, 04:04:57 PM
Hello-I'm new to ML. I do a lot of time-lapse work and that was my main motivation for installing ML on my EOS M. The camera booted fine and the intervalometer was working great for the first test. I did not set a frame limit and after about 20 minutes of shooting a frame every 3 seconds, it was time to end the test. However I could not figure out how to exit the intervalometer. I could not access the menu with the routine running. If I turned off the power and turned it back on the intervalometer routine would run again. Finally I turned off the power and removed the battery. After reinstalling the battery the intervalometer routine did not boot and I was able to access the menu again and turn it off. BTW the routine was set to trigger with the first shutter release.

Now however I have lost autofocus with half-shutter or touch-screen press in M, AV, TV and P modes. Half-press autofocus does work in all of the auto-exposure modes. I uninstalled ML  and rebooted 2.0.2 but that did not fix the problem. I reinstalled 2.0.2 and that did not solve the problem. I updated to the latest 2.0.3 and still no luck. Any suggestions on how to fix the issue I'm having-Thanks
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on April 29, 2017, 09:54:17 PM
Did you reset Canon settings too?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: hiamkeiron on April 30, 2017, 04:35:38 AM
Hello i would like to know if it would be possible to make live view possible through usb
Just like this video
https://youtu.be/JnzkHegu3aA
I know the camera doesn't have this capability due too the stupidity of canon

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Johncee on May 07, 2017, 04:47:26 AM
Did you reset Canon settings too?

After clearing all camera settings and custom functions in the menu, I have autofocus in all modes again. Thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: kiru on May 17, 2017, 04:43:16 AM
Hi all, I recently bought an used EOS M and updated to firmware 2.0.3 before reading about ML. Now I am desperate to downgrade to 2.0.2 so I can try ML. I could find the firmware version 2.0.2 in the first page of this thread. Is that the right one? Should I downgrade or wait for ML stable build with 2.0.3?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: hiamkeiron on May 22, 2017, 05:37:08 PM
When taking a picture in raw format im getting the "raw error falling back to YUV overlays" error message
 I have the newest nightly build
Is there anyway to fix this?
also what does it mean
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 22, 2017, 05:45:22 PM
https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=19226.0
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: arielp on May 25, 2017, 02:10:41 AM
Just sharing,

another card which is shutterbug-proof
(https://www.jakartanotebook.com/upload/images/toshiba%20exceria%20class%2010(1).JPG)

it's microsd, have not tested the full sd version..

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on May 27, 2017, 08:18:32 PM
Probably because it's toshiba they make great shit only 30MBps though need 40 for video..
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on May 27, 2017, 08:20:33 PM
Compressed raw video.. anything going on for the M?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: canoneer on June 13, 2017, 02:48:53 PM
I updated my EOS M with Nightly Build, acquired a SD card to use the M-zoom-lense without shutterbug and it works.

My humble question now, probably because I have not used ML for several years - the Focus racking and stacking tools seems to have disappeared- or might they not be available on the M - had it on my 60d last I tried?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 13, 2017, 03:15:56 PM
https://builds.magiclantern.fm/features.html -> Focus
Indeed focus features are not available for EOS M. Maybe dfort or a1ex will jump in and telling why.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: canoneer on June 13, 2017, 07:04:57 PM
Thanks. Forgot to check the matrix.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on June 14, 2017, 03:17:26 AM
The EOSM should have focus capabilities similar to the 650D and 700D but there is a problem controlling EF-M lenses.

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/748/focus-backend-updates-precise-focus/diff

It does better with EF, EF-S lenses on an adapter.

I haven't looked into turning on those features. According to the source code:

features.h
Code: [Select]
/* Some Hope Yet */
#undef FEATURE_TRAP_FOCUS
#undef FEATURE_FOLLOW_FOCUS
#undef FEATURE_RACK_FOCUS
#undef FEATURE_FOCUS_STACKING
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: cantsin on June 23, 2017, 12:57:49 AM
Having made two videos in EOS-M 720p raw crop mode...
https://vimeo.com/222128427
https://vimeo.com/221350421
...I'm left with the following practical questions:

1) The video crop mode setting isn't remembered by the camera even after ML parameters have been saved. It needs to be manually reactivated in the ML video menu each time the camera has been turned on. Is there any way around this?

2) Sound recording with the mlv_snd module isn't 100% synchronous, because the audio track usually runs a bit longer than the video clip. (I tested this with two different copies of the EOS-M, and the behavior is consistent and reproducible.) While this shouldn't be an issue, it seems to throw off MLV-to-CinemaDNG converters. Raw2CDNG doesn't correctly decode the sound so that audio tracks end up being fragmentary and out-of-sync. This can be fixed by extracting .wav files from the MLV files via ffmpeg and manually aligning them to their corresponding video clips in the editing timeline. But is there a way to convert MLV created by the EOS-M to CinemaDNG without these issues? [I'm primarily a Windows user and couldn't get MLVFS to work.]

3) We keep reading great things about MagicLantern's new 10bit and 12bit raw recording options. Are they available (or in the pipeline) for the EOS-M at all?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on June 23, 2017, 04:17:43 AM
you can get 10 bit and 12 bit magic lantern under downloads downloads again then experiments
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on June 23, 2017, 11:12:16 AM
> 1) The video crop mode setting isn't remembered by the camera

That's there for a reason: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/776/disables-crop-mode-hack-when-turning/diff
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on June 23, 2017, 04:30:42 PM
There's an open pull request to save the "Movie crop mode" setting in a preference file and restore the last used state.

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/787/crop-hack-config/diff

I haven't tried it in a while but it looks like maybe it doesn't work on the other cameras that can do that trick (650D 700D 100D).
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on June 23, 2017, 06:15:13 PM
So I'm searching for EOSM2 stubs using similar cameras as reference (700D 100D EOSM) and the msg_queue_create stub on the EOSM doesn't seem to be matching what the other cameras are using:

Code: [Select]
/** Message queues **/
NSTUB(0xFFA88414 - RAM_OFFSET,  msg_queue_count)            // 0x1EE84 Above "!!!!!!! QUE Overflo"
NSTUB(0xFFA73C84 - RAM_OFFSET,  msg_queue_create)
NSTUB(0xFFA883D4 - RAM_OFFSET,  msg_queue_post)             // 1EE44
NSTUB(0xFFA881E8 - RAM_OFFSET,  msg_queue_receive)          // 1EC58

Shouldn't it be?
Code: [Select]
NSTUB(0xFFA880D8 - RAM_OFFSET,  msg_queue_create)

Not sure how to check this.


Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on June 23, 2017, 06:27:35 PM
0xFFA73C84 is a wrapper for 0xFFA880D8 (the only difference being at error handling, which never happened within our usage - yet).

For consistency, it's best to use the same stub on all models. Probably a good candidate for automation (the algorithm is in ARM-console, but that one does have some weird dependencies...)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on June 23, 2017, 11:05:15 PM
Also noticed that EOSM still has the old post_isr_hook/pre_isr_hook in unified. This was changed in the dm-spy-experiments branch with commit b1bd219 (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/b1bd219209b382669c84080e90758c1a20a918b4).

EOSM.202/stubs.S
Code: [Select]
/** Interrupts **/
-NSTUB(0xFFAA775C - RAM_OFFSET,  post_isr_hook)
-NSTUB(0xFFAA7758 - RAM_OFFSET,  pre_isr_hook)
+NSTUB(0x3DD6C,     post_isr_hook)
+NSTUB(0x3DD68,     pre_isr_hook)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on June 26, 2017, 07:25:41 AM
Pretty sure I caught another issue, this time with an EOSM constant.

magiclantern/platform/EOSM.202/const.h
Code: [Select]
#define YUV422_LV_BUFFER_DISPLAY_ADDR (*(uint32_t*)(0x3E650+0x11c))

Should be:

Code: [Select]
#define YUV422_LV_BUFFER_DISPLAY_ADDR (*(uint32_t*)(0x3E650+0x118))

Anyone care to double check? It is after *"call ChangeVramCallBack pFlipCBR=%x"

Compared it with the code for 100D, 700D and 550D.

Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on June 26, 2017, 09:32:34 AM
On 5D3 1.2.3's consts.h there's a better hint - near ImageEffect. That one would give 0x3E650 + 0x118.

Could this be what's missing for the so-called display filters? (you could try enabling them in internals.h, should be the same as on all other D5 models).
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Licaon_Kter on June 26, 2017, 11:12:45 AM
Not a ML issue but..

How does one treat "Change battery pack" error? (I guess this is the message, I get the localized text)

Had it at 100%, shoot a bit yesterday (still fullbar), forgot to charge it last night, but I put it in the charger in the morning for 15 min, charger led still orange.

I had to go, put it in the camera and went outside.

After more than an hour of walking outside in sunny weather, trying to take a picture I get the surprise messag e with a red empty battery icon AND the ML message of "bad shutdown modules not loaded" (as expected).

This happens without SD card too.

I don't have a collapsible 15-45, just plain 18-55 and 22.

Original Canon battery that came in the box.

/LE: False alarm, got it charged up to green and now it starts fine. Got me scared there for a bit. :)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on June 26, 2017, 03:50:31 PM
Could this be what's missing for the so-called display filters? (you could try enabling them in internals.h, should be the same as on all other D5 models).

Tried it, Display > Anamorphic and Display > Defishing are working. Is there anything else that should be checked?

Updated stubs pull request (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-requests/839/eosm-stubs-tweaks/diff).
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: a1ex on June 26, 2017, 04:04:06 PM
Yay! This one was broken for a very long time.

Raw video previews also depend on this backend, and also HDR video should no longer flicker while recording.

There's also FEATURE_MAGIC_ZOOM_FULL_SCREEN, but that one doesn't work on 700D/650D, so I don't have high hopes for the M.

(We really need some tests for all these constants, to catch such mistakes early)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Danne on June 26, 2017, 04:19:51 PM
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Raw video previews also depend on this backend, and also HDR video should no longer flicker while recording.
:o
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dmilligan on June 27, 2017, 04:24:32 AM
Nice work @dfort!
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on June 27, 2017, 07:16:34 AM
Thanks @dmilligan. You taught me many lessons.

There's also FEATURE_MAGIC_ZOOM_FULL_SCREEN, but that one doesn't work on 700D/650D, so I don't have high hopes for the M.

Just tried it--still doesn't work. Also didn't get rid of the shutter-bug, solved the mv1080 problem or suddenly started recording in 4K on the EOSM.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on June 28, 2017, 03:40:34 AM
nice dfort! always wondered what the black and white preview everyone was talking about was because id never seen it. nice to be able to frame in 5x crop mode. any chance this could be put into the old experimental builds? currently can only be used on 14bit. could it be put into the compressed raw and crop mode builds on experimental page for 10 bit and 12 bit?
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on June 28, 2017, 05:18:36 AM
@Teamsleepkid - If you really want to live on the cutting edge set up a development environment and learn how to merge branches. I just updated my Macintosh (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16012.0) and Cygwin (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15894.0) tutorials. Note that there is currently a gotcha on the Cygwin version (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15894.msg186461#msg186461) that should get fixed upstream but it is easy enough to work around for now.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on June 29, 2017, 06:56:42 AM
yeah i figured something like that was coming. honestly I'm more into cameras then into coding. appreciate what you do a lot though. you're always killing it. same with the others. appreciate all your hard work on the eos m. its a great little camera now.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on July 15, 2017, 12:23:42 PM
looks like it made it into one of the new experimental builds. very cool. so being able to frame in 5x zoom mode is super useful. anyone ever notice? or am i way off base here? i have no scientific proof but...5x crop mode seems to have tighter grain? makes no sense. and also seems less noisy for sure. maybe a little brighter? it definitely looks better than regular "crop mode". try it. 5x crop mode is cleaner in low light i swear to god. I've done lots of tests. i do them for myself though and i always delete them. just looking for someone else to corroborate this claim..
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Danne on July 15, 2017, 12:38:56 PM
Cool if so. I use my eosm with crop_rec all the time recording 12bit with audio. Those files comes out golden. Chroma smooth set to --cs2x2 and ran through dfort focus pixel lists through bouncyball pixel map in mlv_dump and we get clean dng's.
Don't forget about darkframe averaging and files comes out even better. All baked in cr2hdr.app :)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Digby on July 15, 2017, 01:34:51 PM
please can someone give a direct link to ML 2.03 for canon EOSM? I know its not finished testing yet, just want to try it.. been following links and hunting the forum but cant seem to find an active download.. many thanks :)
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Danne on July 15, 2017, 04:14:20 PM
You can find it in here.
https://bitbucket.org/daniel_fort/magic-lantern/downloads/
Title: Tv Lens
Post by: loknar on July 16, 2017, 09:46:54 AM
Hi,
if I understood correctly, when shooting raw video, most of you are using (one way or another) crop mode in either telephoto mode (with EF-M lenses) or you are using some short focal length C-mount TV lenses. Is there a list of usable (and affordable preferably) lenses (i'm looking for sub 15mm)? Problem with C-mount is that there are two versions and most seller cannot (or don't want to) differ between them, talking about C-mount and CS-mount, same thread but different flange distance (CS 12.5 mm, C 17.5 mm) so CS is pretty much unusable since it's impossible to focus it.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Danne on July 16, 2017, 10:31:30 AM
I have a used sigma 10-20mm f3.5 which works good for the price paid. Of course you will also need a canon ef converter to mount the lens.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on July 16, 2017, 11:18:14 AM
I've got c mount lenses. 25,12.5,8.5 and 6mm. i think pretty much any of them will work in crop mode. 3x or 5x crop mode. i had a 4.5mm lens and that one even worked. i broke it though. c mount lenses don't seem to focus to infinity though... at least mine don't . i haven't made any modifications to them. also they are all over the place. I've got 1",3/4", 1/2" they all close focus no problem. wide angle infinity focus seems soft to me. not terrible though. more resolution and we would be in serious territory. im still waiting for compressed raw. then we are talking better than a7sii in sharpness territory. I've got one of those too. and sometimes i prefer the 100 dollar M to it.
Title: Re: Tv Lens
Post by: dfort on July 16, 2017, 10:22:04 PM
...Problem with C-mount is that there are two versions and most seller cannot (or don't want to) differ between them, talking about C-mount and CS-mount, same thread but different flange distance (CS 12.5 mm, C 17.5 mm) so CS is pretty much unusable since it's impossible to focus it.

CS isn't C. The CS lenses are designed for small surveillance cameras. You can use C mount lenses on a CS mount camera with an adapter but not vice-versa.

c mount lenses don't seem to focus to infinity though... at least mine don't .

They should -- mine do.

The EOSM isn't the best camera to shoot raw video though it is fun trying. There are development branches that allow you to shoot H.264 proxies along with mv1080 raw video. Best set up a compiling environment if you want to have some real fun with the EOSM.

... im still waiting for compressed raw. then we are talking better than a7sii in sharpness territory...

Cool. We're all waiting for you to get this started.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: Teamsleepkid on July 17, 2017, 10:15:39 AM
dfort i always thought you were a great guy. sorry if i made you mad. you have always helped me a lot. nothing but respect. i have no idea how to code anything. i just see tremendous potential in the little eos m so im wishing out loud.
Title: Re: Canon EOS M
Post by: dfort on July 17, 2017, 05:58:21 PM
@Teamsleepkid

What makes you think I'm angry? Insane, maybe. All I'm doing is trying to get some of the more advanced users, like you, to compile ML instead of waiting for someone else to do it. Once you can roll your own you'll be able to try out some of the more experimental branches. In addition, if you want to regress to an earlier version you can pick which commit to go back to. You don't need to change a single line of code to do any of this. Download the SourceTree app (https://www.sourcetreeapp.com/) and watch ML development nearly real time. Just clone the ML repository using this URL: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern

If you are on Windows my Cygwin tutorial (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15894.0) makes it super easy. On Mac (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15894.0) I just updated the install script so it is pretty much automatic once you make /usr/local writeable. The scripts even clones the repository and sets you up on the unified branch. You can switch branches, merge and even poke around in the code if you want. If you muck things up simply delete your local repository and re-clone it.