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Magic Lantern Releases => Camera-specific discussion => Topic started by: nanomad on August 03, 2013, 07:27:52 PM

Title: Canon 650D / T4i
Post by: nanomad on August 03, 2013, 07:27:52 PM
Installation:
1) Format the card from the camera.
2) Make sure you are running Canon firmware 1.0.4 (http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer?pageKeyCode=prdAdvDetail&docId=0901e0248090cddd).
3) Copy ML files (http://builds.magiclantern.fm/) on the card and run Firmware Update.

Uninstallation:
1) Run Firmware Update from your ML card.
2) Follow the instructions.

(http://a1ex.magiclantern.fm/bleeding-edge/new-installer.png)



Quote from: Original Post
UPGRADE TO 1.0.4


(http://i.imgur.com/9JfAuS1.jpg?2)
Status:  Alpha

What's currently not working: All ML features that have to do with audio plus a couple that require more button than what we have

Known "quirks":
- MZ is flickering. No solution known beside basically hardlocking the UI.
- FPS override may cause crashes. This requires a lot of testing to figure out correct timer values. I'm on it


(obsolete info) How do I test it?

1. Download the needed files

- The installer package:
http://nanomad.magiclantern.fm/650D/magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug03.650D104.zip

- EOSCard for Windows http://pel.hu/eoscard/ (http://pel.hu/eoscard/) or MacBoot for OS X http://www.zenoshrdlu.com/macboot/macboot.html (http://www.zenoshrdlu.com/macboot/macboot.html)

2. low level format your SD card

3. Run EOSCard, uncheck EOS_Develop and BOOTDISK (the card SHOULD NOT be bootable)

4. Upgrade to canon 1.0.4 if you haven't already using the official firmware update

5. low level format your SD card again

6. Start camera in M photo mode and reset settings to default.

7. Extract the contents of the installation zip on SD card.

8. Start camera in M photo mode and run firmware update. THis will run the ML setup and make your card bootable too.

9. Follow the on-screen instructions

Afterwards you can delete the 650D.104.installer.fir file and stay up to date just by replacing files from the official nightly builds. (check the forum homepage)

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on August 03, 2013, 08:15:15 PM
спасибо огромное. !!!
Thank you very much.!!!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: neilrobinson1988 on August 03, 2013, 08:28:33 PM
Bloody hell you guys don't mess about do you :-0
I'm looking to do the upgrade, just wondering is bracketing on the update?
Regards Neil
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mike1969 on August 03, 2013, 08:29:30 PM
thx very much nanomad ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on August 03, 2013, 08:41:11 PM
все работает, жаль настроек звука нет. спасибо еще раз!
everything works, sorry no sound settings. Thank you again!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: RafaLibrenz on August 03, 2013, 09:28:27 PM
Everything works here!

The process only works on my 16GB and 32GB cards. For my 64GB card I had to do different.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 03, 2013, 09:43:45 PM
Yes, the installer (or any canon update for that matter) won't work on cards bigger than 32 GB

This build has everything enabled.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 30dbs on August 03, 2013, 09:46:05 PM
Nice!, I was still on 1.0.1 so didn't need to update but thought I'd test it anyway.

Upgrade went fine following the simple steps above, and then for my second card I just formatted and copied over all the file apart from the .fir file

this has the raw viewer module too which I didn't have before, so got a nice surprise!

great work guys and thanks again!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mike1969 on August 03, 2013, 10:27:00 PM

Afterwards you can delete the 650D.104.installer.fir file and stay up to date just by replacing files from Satriani's builds:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hxsv61cq992egmy/BtTgp4q6i0 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hxsv61cq992egmy/BtTgp4q6i0)
i did not understand this step, have we to replace all the folder ML and autoexec bin?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 03, 2013, 11:05:41 PM
Everything works here!

The process only works on my 16GB and 32GB cards. For my 64GB card I had to do different.

Thanks!

cool what did you do differently to make the 64 gig work?

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on August 03, 2013, 11:07:33 PM
i did not understand this step, have we to replace all the folder ML and autoexec bin?

Yes, but not until tomorrow  ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 04, 2013, 01:10:14 AM
Muchisimas gracias , voy a probar y otra ves mil gracias. Saludos
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 04, 2013, 01:21:00 AM
Me olvide , es normal que en modo 1920x1080 grabe a 1920x1088 ? .
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mike1969 on August 04, 2013, 01:53:10 AM
Yes, but not until tomorrow  ;)
thx satriani for the info
aknowledgment for you and nanomad
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Lemon on August 04, 2013, 02:54:23 AM
Installed & Working. Thank you for all your hard work nanomad & Satriani!

Sorry about being so impatient to try it out, guess I couldn't wait to get my hands on ML :D

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4314219/working2.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Orada on August 04, 2013, 04:12:41 AM
Dears, Thanks Again .. Really Appreciate your great work,
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mojo on August 04, 2013, 08:37:49 AM
Thank u for porting to 1.0.4.
Did a full day shoot on 27 July nightly build and am pleased to report no issues, where primary features were used... peaking, zebra, audio (no meters of course), 5x zoom were good. However fps was at 1.0x and magic zoom not used.
One thing I did miss was the shortcut button to change WB. Using the ML menu to change WB was OK except that I can't change it while recording.
Once again, very appreciative of your time &  efforts.
Cheers
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: maximehaag on August 04, 2013, 08:56:10 AM
This build has everything enabled.

Hi,
Does it mean we are close to the βeta now ?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: phil_rouge on August 04, 2013, 09:12:59 AM
 ;D Thank's for this great job !!!

Just two questions :

When I use Motion Detect, how can I stop it ? I try several buttons but It always running, I'm obliged to turn off my camera !?

Can I Stop ML and return to Canon Software ? For the moment I turn the camera OFF and ON to return on Canon Menu.

Thank's for your answer because I'm very Neeby ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 04, 2013, 09:16:57 AM
ML does not replace Canon's software, you can use all the functions canon provides (and you are supposed to!). If you want to completely unistall ML the best solution is to re-run the installer and read carefully the on-screen instructions
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: phil_rouge on August 04, 2013, 11:54:04 AM
ML does not replace Canon's software, you can use all the functions canon provides (and you are supposed to!). If you want to completely unistall ML the best solution is to re-run the installer and read carefully the on-screen instructions

Thank's but it wasn't my question, I just want to stop ML after use it and return to standard function, for the moment the only way I fund is to turn OFF and ON my Canon 650D, I don't want to uninstall it :)

For Motion Detect, I found this : After take a picture when the screen return to Motion Detect, just press trash button.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 04, 2013, 12:14:42 PM
If you turn your camera on and off ML will be loaded. If this worked for you until now there is no use changing the method.
If however you turned the camera off and turned it on again with SET pressed ML was indeed deactivated.

In simplified computer terms: ML is a task/program loaded at startup and waiting for action. If SET is pressed it will not be loaded and therefore not waiting for action.

To access the ML interface you have to press the trash button and you can use the same button to go back to Canon's own interface.

Ciao, Walter

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 04, 2013, 12:49:39 PM
Yes, but not until tomorrow  ;)
But after deleting the "650D.104.installer.fir" which fir. I have to use? Or we no longer need a fir. on the card? I am a bit confused.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: texacola on August 04, 2013, 01:30:44 PM
But after deleting the "650D.104.installer.fir" which fir. I have to use? Or we no longer need a fir. on the card? I am a bit confused.

You no longer need the fir on there, that's just the firmware (.fir) updater and deleting it is probably so you don't accidentally do it again later.

Many thanks nanomad for all your dvelopment work and to satriani for your daily builds, appreciate your efforts!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 04, 2013, 01:31:02 PM
The fir is only needed once *per lifetime of your camera*
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Daniboy111 on August 04, 2013, 01:52:55 PM
Well first I'd like to say thanks to Nanomad, seems like you really went out of your way here so chears to you! I have one question, where is the raw video option? I can't seem to find it. Thanks a bunch :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 04, 2013, 02:02:55 PM
The fir is only needed once *per lifetime of your camera*
This means cameras who run already ML just have to be updated to 104 and they will directly run satrianis build?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on August 04, 2013, 02:04:02 PM
So in order to update my version of ML running on fir 1.0.1 , I need to unistall ML by lauching again the firmware update (with file "650D-S~1.FIR", then download and install the official 1.0.4 firmware from Canon, and install lastest ML version again, right ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on August 04, 2013, 02:07:44 PM
Well first I'd like to say thanks to Nanomad, seems like you really went out of your way here so chears to you! I have one question, where is the raw video option? I can't seem to find it. Thanks a bunch :)

You need to load the module (RAW_Rec) under the Module Menu, and then you will found a RAW Rec option under the Video menu.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 04, 2013, 02:51:26 PM
Ok forget everything I said, just follow the guide from start to end. Then delete the fir and forget about it. Even when updating builds
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on August 04, 2013, 05:01:12 PM
Ok forget everything I said, just follow the guide from start to end. Then delete the fir and forget about it. Even when updating builds

nanomad :)

You now sometimes when you know too much of something trying to make it simple to others who don't, can actually make it harder!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: baga on August 04, 2013, 05:04:53 PM
Well I just reinstalled ML on my 650D and one of my 4G cards and so far everything I've tried seems to be working fine.  I can't wait to give it a good work out maybe later today.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: baga on August 04, 2013, 05:15:09 PM
By the way thanks for updating ML to work Canon's new 104 firmware.  I didn't expect it so quick considering everything else the developers have going on. Thanks again!!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Daniboy111 on August 04, 2013, 05:24:10 PM
You need to load the module (RAW_Rec) under the Module Menu, and then you will found a RAW Rec option under the Video menu.

 I have no modules in the module menu? :S
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 04, 2013, 05:26:58 PM
Then you did something wrong
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: phil_rouge on August 04, 2013, 06:07:27 PM
 :o perhaps a stupid question but after make a raw video how open it on computer ?
 ???

and when I want to make a video, my 650D record only 1 second and after stop automaticully ???

Thank's for your answer :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: bsbeamer on August 04, 2013, 06:21:26 PM
Does performing a re-installation of the "official" Canon 1.0.4 firmware uninstall ML completely, or is that only performed through running the installer again with an "uninstall" command?  Would like to test on a camera and then reset/remove ML.  Have not yet used ML (personally), so sorry if this is a newbie question.

Has anyone tested the HDMI output on the 650D/T4i?  Curious if mirroring is possible.  Not necessarily "clean" output, but being able to use the internal/built-in monitor as well as an external HDMI monitor at the same time (without the internal going black).
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Daniboy111 on August 04, 2013, 06:41:27 PM
Then you did something wrong

It's only if I use Satranis (Might be incorrect naming there) build. If I use the one supplied in your link its fine.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on August 04, 2013, 07:38:15 PM
Does performing a re-installation of the "official" Canon 1.0.4 firmware uninstall ML completely, or is that only performed through running the installer again with an "uninstall" command?  Would like to test on a camera and then reset/remove ML.  Have not yet used ML (personally), so sorry if this is a newbie question.

Has anyone tested the HDMI output on the 650D/T4i?  Curious if mirroring is possible.  Not necessarily "clean" output, but being able to use the internal/built-in monitor as well as an external HDMI monitor at the same time (without the internal going black).

I've the same question concerning the official firmware update behavior (does it unset the bootflag ?). For beeing sure, I guess unistall ML before updating is the best thing to do...

Concerning the miroring, It actually doesn't work : while plugin an HDMI or a VGA Cable, the internal screen switch off.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 04, 2013, 08:59:58 PM
Thank you very much it works really fine.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: cawahe on August 04, 2013, 09:14:32 PM
Thanks this is amazing!
when will audio come on here?
And how do i use the exposure? Since it jumps back to canon firmware...
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Phillips321 on August 04, 2013, 11:42:27 PM
Hi guys and thanks to nanomad and others for their efforts.

Currently I can record at 60fps 720p. If I reduce the resolution can I record at a higher frame rate? If so could someone tell me where I can do this?

Many thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lynx on August 05, 2013, 12:23:31 AM
I love this! thank you! everything is working good with the 1.0.4 firmware.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: red5446 on August 05, 2013, 12:48:01 AM
BUG:
when you select flash tweaks and 3rd p flash Live view on
the camera just freezes. it takes pictures but you can autofocus anymore. you have to turning off the camera.

you can replicate this even without external flash. just put live view and try to take a picture with that setting on.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 05, 2013, 01:02:09 AM
Good catch with that bug. I'll see what I can do.

Canon update doesn't touch the camera or card bootflag but you need to disable the card one to make sure you do not run an incompatible binary. ML installer will fix the bootflag for you afterwards
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Train on August 05, 2013, 01:07:45 AM
I'm not seeing Trap Focus.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: OpenMind on August 05, 2013, 02:35:18 AM
BUG (?)

Camera in movie mode, Crop movie = ON... video works fine.
Suddenly I like to take a photo... Switch camera to photo mode, focus, press shutter... oops... press shutter! Press harder!... Hmmm, no photo!

Go back to movie mode, Crop Movie = OFF
Photo mode: Press shutter... works fine again.

To be short: You can't take photos when switching from movie to photo mode, while using Crop movie.

EDIT: Used satriani's ML_N_04.08.2013

By the way... Thanks for the update(s)! :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lordgnagey on August 05, 2013, 04:01:53 AM
Nanomad, I'm going to re-post this because I'm sure it was lost in the 1.0.1 - 1.0.4 deluge.

Are there plans to implement GOP and Slice control? I've read that it is currently implemented in Tragic Lantern.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6913.0

I realize you've been recompiling for the new firmware. I'm not expecting overnight miracles. However, has this been discussed as an option for the 650d? Are there any known issues of compatibility?

Considering that the 650d's write speed is nearly double that of the 600d it stands to reason that we could probably do GOP 1 and pretty high H264 quality without hitting the write limit on the cardbus.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1% on August 05, 2013, 04:59:06 AM
No slice its Eeko. Gop should work tho, flush rate works.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lordgnagey on August 05, 2013, 06:28:32 AM
1%

Pardon my ignorance but I don't see a GOP option in the bitrate menu. Is there some other way to alter the GOP?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 05, 2013, 07:16:55 AM
I'm not seeing Trap Focus.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3697.msg44640#msg44640
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Phillips321 on August 05, 2013, 12:55:03 PM
BUG (?)

Camera in movie mode, Crop movie = ON... video works fine.
Suddenly I like to take a photo... Switch camera to photo mode, focus, press shutter... oops... press shutter! Press harder!... Hmmm, no photo!

Go back to movie mode, Crop Movie = OFF
Photo mode: Press shutter... works fine again.

To be short: You can't take photos when switching from movie to photo mode, while using Crop movie.

EDIT: Used satriani's ML_N_04.08.2013

By the way... Thanks for the update(s)! :)

I can second this. Although a turn off/on of the camera also allows me to take photos again.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Phillips321 on August 05, 2013, 02:03:12 PM
And i forgot to ask, is there a bug track pages so that i can file bugs/check existing bugs?

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 05, 2013, 03:36:14 PM
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues?status=new&status=open
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on August 05, 2013, 03:49:36 PM
заметил ошибку, или точнее странное поведение экспозиции , когда меняешь выдержку с 25 на 8000, и потом обратно с 8000 на 25 то после этого видео мерцает, экспозиция словно прыгает то немного темнее то немного светлее и это не как не остановить пока не выключить аппарат.
 noticed the error, or rather strange behavior exposure when you change the shutter speed from 25 to 8000, and then back to 8000 to 25 then after that the video flickers, the exposure is like jumpinga little bit darker and lighter but it does not stop until you turn off the unit.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on August 05, 2013, 04:05:48 PM
:o perhaps a stupid question but after make a raw video how open it on computer ?
 ???

and when I want to make a video, my 650D record only 1 second and after stop automaticully ???

Thank's for your answer :)
RAW Video defaults to the highest resolution which will only record for a second.  Back off the resolution to 720p24 for continuous recording with a SanDisk 45MB/s card (or better) (results as stated elsewhere... I don't have a 45MB/s card yet)

RAW video and especially the post processing of it is a VAST topic for discussion elsewhere in this forum.  List of threads on post-processing link below.  Many threads are about RAW processing.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=14.0
Suggest starting here...
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5404.0
Many contributors have done a great job organizing this info and developing tools for the post processing.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: OpenMind on August 05, 2013, 04:12:04 PM
Video pauses often and irregular when recording in crop mode during a lot of movement in the picture... as in scenes with lots of activity and during fast panning. Just like the card gets too much data to save fast enough.

Card: Sandisk 32GB Extreme Pro 95MB/s
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 05, 2013, 05:55:36 PM
заметил ошибку, или точнее странное поведение экспозиции , когда меняешь выдержку с 25 на 8000, и потом обратно с 8000 на 25 то после этого видео мерцает, экспозиция словно прыгает то немного темнее то немного светлее и это не как не остановить пока не выключить аппарат.
 noticed the error, or rather strange behavior exposure when you change the shutter speed from 25 to 8000, and then back to 8000 to 25 then after that the video flickers, the exposure is like jumpinga little bit darker and lighter but it does not stop until you turn off the unit.
Video pauses often and irregular when recording in crop mode during a lot of movement in the picture... as in scenes with lots of activity and during fast panning. Just like the card gets too much data to save fast enough.

Card: Sandisk 32GB Extreme Pro 95MB/s

Upload a video with the issue. I can't reproduce it
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mdfaisal on August 05, 2013, 06:47:59 PM
Yes, the installer (or any canon update for that matter) won't work on cards bigger than 32 GB

This build has everything enabled.

I hope the problem on 64gb card will fix soon
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: OpenMind on August 05, 2013, 06:55:16 PM
Upload a video with the issue. I can't reproduce it
Just start recording and then sweep your camera randomly up/down/left/right during recording.
I see the pauses during recording on the display, and after recording during playback.

EDIT: Lens used EF-S 18-135 IS STM, IS enabled
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: OpenMind on August 05, 2013, 07:08:04 PM
Upload a video with the issue. I can't reproduce it
Here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFKlpw7m5xk&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 05, 2013, 07:15:13 PM
Well, can't reproduce it. Maybe it's the lens or the card (did you do a low level format?).
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: OpenMind on August 05, 2013, 07:35:11 PM
Well, can't reproduce it. Maybe it's the lens or the card (did you do a low level format?).
Yes, the card was low level formatted.

But... I did some further testing with other lenses.

EF-S 18-135mm STM IS has this problem, no matter if IS is on or off
No problems in standard Canon (non crop) mode.

EF-S 18-55mm IS II (kitlens): No problem
EF 24-105mm L IS USM: No problem
EF 40mm STM: No problem
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 05, 2013, 07:39:00 PM
Well I tested it with the 18 55 is stm and it's fine.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: OpenMind on August 05, 2013, 07:42:03 PM
Well I tested it with the 18 55 is stm and it's fine.
So it seems like it is only the 18-135 STM for which the firmware 1.0.4 solved some problems... (if I remember well)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: OpenMind on August 05, 2013, 07:47:52 PM
Checked out firmware description (which also points at nanomad's lens)

1. Fixes the following phenomena which may occur when the camera is used in combination with certain lens models equipped with a stepping motor.

◦ Affected lenses: EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM / EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM

◦ The camera may freeze in rare instances if you try to shoot with a lens cap attached or meter a subject in  low contrast in Live View (or Movie) shooting.




It looks like there's a temporary freeze instead of freezing completely.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 05, 2013, 08:30:21 PM
The first 9 seconds while RAW recording the frame dont show up. I am using the 04.08 Satriani Build.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lordgnagey on August 05, 2013, 09:56:51 PM
No slice its Eeko. Gop should work tho, flush rate works.

I'm assuming this means that GOP and Flush rate will (more than likely) work, but are not included in this build? What's more, is there a way to port Tragic Lantern to the 650d? Has that been attempted?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: amrmousa on August 06, 2013, 05:26:54 AM
Once installed works well, but it appears  Flicker when video recording in play mode!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ClearlyRobert on August 06, 2013, 06:55:59 AM
Thanks for the 1.0.4 - and everything else you guys have been doing for the past 10 months I've been lurking here....successfully did my first ever install this afternoon...smooth and painless...onto a 32gb card first and then onto a 64gb card after reading that all I had to do was check the bootdisk box on EOScard. Thanks again...now to learn all this reborn toy will do.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on August 06, 2013, 09:58:26 AM
Posting to say I upgraded and everything is working great thus far and to subscribe to this thread :)

The link for the builds on the first post at this time appears to not be working.

also this is not a request but a curiosity, say we get to beta level and there is more "free time" if that ever happens, would you guys then consider making a more touch friendly interface? sorta similar to the stock canon firmware? again not a request and it doesnt ever need to happen was just wondering if it ever crossed your minds. Thank you very much for all your dedicated time and hard work.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 06, 2013, 02:45:26 PM
I hope the problem on 64gb card will fix soon

I think ML can be loaded on the 64.  It just takes a different approach.  There is a video on the web about this (putting ML on a 64 gig SD card).  I have been traveling so I have not had time to do this.  When I get a sec I will do this a post a method if someone else has not done this in the mean time.

dave

Modification.  thanks nonomand!!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on August 06, 2013, 03:42:45 PM
I think ML can be loaded on the 64.  It just takes a different approach.  There is a video on the web about this (putting ML on a 64 gig SD card).  I have been traveling so I have not had time to do this.  When I get a sec I will do this a post a method if someone else has not done this in the mean time.

dave

Modification.  thanks nonomand!!
The issue with >32GB cards is not loading ML on them, but using them in running the initial firmware update fir file that sets the bootflag on the camera.  Is this what you are talking about?

Once the fir file has been run, you can use a >32GB card with ML on it.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ClearlyRobert on August 06, 2013, 04:12:09 PM
ML on 64gb card:  This is what I did as a first time user with the 1.0.4 alpha...loaded it onto a 32gb card first for the initial install and then onto a 64gb card after reading that all I had to do was check the bootdisk box on EOScard on the 64gb card.  This is where I learned how:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_826410&feature=iv&src_vid=LN8LV15_cEA&v=XEBSUUeoA4Y

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Yeti183 on August 06, 2013, 05:18:10 PM
It is all written in the Installation guide http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/install  how to install on additional cards or how to run on a 64 GB card

Best, Robert
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: CKLAslan on August 06, 2013, 07:46:53 PM
Updated to 1.0.4 and got ML working perfectly.  Have done FPS override video, time lapse photos, and HDR bracketing and no issues so far.

What are the keys for the ISO shortcuts, etc?

Also is there any work around for Trap Focus not working because of the Canon AF deal mentioned in another thread?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: perkaer on August 06, 2013, 07:54:35 PM
Hi all,

I running 1.0.1 and the ML build from a few weeks ago and everything I have used have worked, most HDR bracketing. Thx for an awesome addition to my camera!

I do however have one question. While RAW RGB histogram works brilliantly in picture preview mode, I can't get it to work in LiveView mode, in fact the LiveView interface seems very much the same as always. Is this how it's suppose to be or am I doing something wrong?

Thx again for ML! :)

Best,
Per
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 06, 2013, 08:19:14 PM
Hi, I got it, Video mode does not work direct viewfinder if photo mode.

Greetings.


Hola, me pasa lo mismo , en modo video no me funciona el visor directo , si en modo foto.

Saludos.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ClearlyRobert on August 06, 2013, 09:32:18 PM
Newbie question - I can't find bulb ramping on the Shoot, or any other, menu....I see manual exporamp but no auto exporamp under Intervalometer...but no info in manual or the FB page or here in forum on exporamp....what did I miss?

Thanks,

Robert
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: red5446 on August 07, 2013, 01:35:33 AM
raw histogram in photo mode doesn´t appear or at least is extremely slow.
video mode it´s normal. maybe 1-2 second delay.

is it normal?

global draw all modes.
zebras : raw rgb
Histogram: rgb, lin, dots, raw
All others: off
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: perkaer on August 07, 2013, 10:50:34 AM
raw histogram in photo mode doesn´t appear or at least is extremely slow.
video mode it´s normal. maybe 1-2 second delay.

is it normal?

global draw all modes.
zebras : raw rgb
Histogram: rgb, lin, dots, raw
All others: off

It's working now, both in photo and video mode, and yes its quite slow in photo mode. I think my problem was I had not toggled through all the modes using the INFO button...

Thx a lot!

Per
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on August 07, 2013, 10:53:58 AM
Turn off raw zebras (e.g. use yuv ones) to make it faster.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: delorossa on August 07, 2013, 12:58:03 PM
Hi, im a new user of a Canon 650D,and i will use ML, but i have some Questions.And first one thx to the Developer of ML.

Question

When support ML 1.0.4 for 128 SDXC Card of 128GB?
What is, when i take the SD Card out,does it still work ML?When not, then i must buy a 32GB for use ML right :-( or i must wait...
In FAQ under HOW I UNINSTALL ML is written.... "Simply format the card" Thats it???
What is EyeFi Card?
And I Have the Firmware 1.0.1 on my Canon,shall i use ML under 1.0.4 or ?

Regards

Sorry for my Beatiful English :-)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 07, 2013, 03:10:04 PM
When support ML 1.0.4 for 128 SDXC Card of 128GB?

ML *is* supporting cards bigger than 32 GB. There is just one installation step (initialising the camera) which won't work. Therefore you need a card < 64 GB once to pass this limitation. After initialising the camera you can run ML from your 128 GB card.

What is, when i take the SD Card out,does it still work ML?

ML is not replacing the firmware. It is more like a program on your computer loaded at startup. Therefore: No card with ML software on it -> ML is not running.

What is EyeFi Card?

Google (or any other search engine) is your friend.

And I Have the Firmware 1.0.1 on my Canon,shall i use ML under 1.0.4 or ?

The most recent ML version requires FW 1.0.4.

Ciao
Walter



Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: _DK_ on August 07, 2013, 03:55:01 PM
Hi, I got it, Video mode does not work direct viewfinder if photo mode.

Greetings.


Hola, me pasa lo mismo , en modo video no me funciona el visor directo , si en modo foto.

Saludos.

Hola,
Perdón si mi español es mal, estudio todavía...
No lo creo que es un problema de magic lantern. No es possible usar el visor directo en modo video, en general. Es porque en modo video, necesita usar el sensor consistente, por lo eso el espejo no funcionar, similar como si haces un photo.

-------------------------

My spanish might be too bad to understand it all. I am still learning it.
I don't think this is a problem of magic lantern. (if I understand what you say). You can't use the viewfinder in video mode, because it needs the sensor to record video, so the mirror does not work and therefore the viewfinder is useless in video mode. This is similar to the moment you take a photo, during this time you can't see through the viewfinder as well.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 07, 2013, 06:03:24 PM
Hola , gracias por contestar y tanto toquetear se me olvido que es tal cual como lo describís.

Un Abrazo.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: magcharlie on August 07, 2013, 06:05:57 PM
Hello,

I encountered a problem in Movie crop mode. The bottom 6 lines in the recording show rubish.


Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: CKLAslan on August 07, 2013, 08:49:59 PM
Anyone have better instructions for configuring Focus Stacking?  The Wiki, User Guide, and demos are.. well... not incredibly helpful as they mostly refer to other models or builds and I get very mixes results.

Also what about the shortcuts to ISO, etc? (I'm the 3rd person to ask this and no one seems to answer it).  What are the keys?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on August 07, 2013, 09:02:13 PM
What could be easier than adjusting how many steps you need and hitting Start? See also http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=4747

also see http://nanomad.magiclantern.fm/nightly/features.html (shortcuts are not there)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: CKLAslan on August 07, 2013, 09:29:53 PM
Thanks Alex.  That helps.  The UG and Wiki refer to other steps and menus prior to setting the Focus Stack.

I'll give it a try today.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: studioe on August 07, 2013, 10:51:58 PM
is there a way to reset to default all the ML settings?

new to ML and must have set something incorrectly.

e
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on August 07, 2013, 11:58:08 PM
A question just popped in to my head.

There was buzz a while back about clean HDMI out on the T4i, and while default firmware's HDMI signal is cropped down did ML ever get us full 1080p HDMI out? I'd love to know because I'm debating whether or not to get an Atmos Ninja or similar.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: gxcell on August 08, 2013, 12:09:45 AM
Installed tonight on my 650D.

Will report my feelings soon.

Thank you for this great tool!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jeffadkins51 on August 08, 2013, 12:43:53 AM
Hey everyone, I discovered ML today for the first time. I've been into HDR photography for awhile now but my T4i (650D) could only.... well you all know the story, you're here! I can't tell you how happy I was when I installed this and set it to take 5 and then 7 exposures on a test shot of my backyard and saw it worked flawlessly.

You guys at ML are awesome, you've really made me a happy camper, know that your work is bringing smiles and happiness into the world, anyone who does that gets a thumbs up from me!!!

THANK YOU!!! (yes, I meant to yell that, loudly, very, very loudly)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ClearlyRobert on August 08, 2013, 01:55:48 AM
I can't find bulb ramping on the Shoot, or any other, menu.  Directions?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Orada on August 08, 2013, 03:16:17 AM
Dears I need your help reporting and confirm that issue below
In flash tweaks - 3rd party on live view shooting, it capture 1 image then nothing again ( it says release shutter or press half ) until change the camera mode dial or restart the camera ... u wanna say I can't use flash on live view ,, any one tested that issue yet ?!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: DuceMongoose on August 08, 2013, 04:10:23 AM
Can,t seem to get the focus peak to work.   :-\
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 08, 2013, 05:22:25 AM
is there a way to reset to default all the ML settings?

Delete MAGIC.CFG

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Kauf on August 08, 2013, 06:21:49 AM
Can someone explain the MZ issues-- the tearing versus in sync discussion started back in this post: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3697.msg45799#msg45799.

I currently have the 550d/T2i and am looking to move up. I remember how frustrated I was when I first realized that, with the Canon firmware standalone, I could not zoom to adjust focus while recording. That's what first drew me to ML, and I've been loving it ever since (and far more than just MZ). Given that I expect to still need to manually focus and occasionally correct on-the-fly, MZ is still top on my list of features.

Does anyone have images or video that they can post to show what MZ behavior looks like on the 650d-- the flickering/tearing? Does the in sync/locked UI look the same as regular MZ, just with all other controls locked while zoomed? I'm trying to judge whether the 650d will be a viable upgrade for me when ML goes beta. Yes, you can call me conservative... but my friends call me chicken :) Thanks to all you pioneers for kicking the tires. And especially thank you nanomad for all your hard work!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Gorilla on August 08, 2013, 09:10:59 AM
I currently have the 550d/T2i and am looking to move up.

I know this doesn't answer any of your question, but if I can just give my opinion, I don't think the T4i is worth an upgrade over a T2i. I own a T4i and have used a T2i, and they're so similar that I think you would be much better off saving up some more and making a more substantial upgrade, like to a 6D. I know it's quite a jump in price, but if you're really itching to replace your T2i, I'd do that over getting another Rebel (and probably over getting any other crop-sensor Canon right now).
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mdfaisal on August 08, 2013, 10:59:50 AM
I know this doesn't answer any of your question, but if I can just give my opinion, I don't think the T4i is worth an upgrade over a T2i. I own a T4i and have used a T2i, and they're so similar that I think you would be much better off saving up some more and making a more substantial upgrade, like to a 6D. I know it's quite a jump in price, but if you're really itching to replace your T2i, I'd do that over getting another Rebel (and probably over getting any other crop-sensor Canon right now).

But t4i and 6d have the same card read/write speed.  So you can use sandisk extreme or extreme pro.  If you use your camera for video,  upgrading from t2i to t4i is a big thing.  Because you can use RAW VIDEO which is very amazing.

Both t4i and 6d have the same resolution raw video,  which is hd video.  Cmiiw.



Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on August 08, 2013, 02:37:16 PM
I've upgraded to ML today's build (August 8 and Canon firmware 1.0.4).

But Pico scripts doesn't work (when I hit "run script", the camera switch back to the shooting screen, and says "script running, press set to hide/show".
And if I press set, nothing happens (regarding to the script).

Any ideas why ? Does someone managed to run a PicoC script on a 650d 1.0.4 ? I've also tried yesterday build and multiple script (which worked before I upgrade to 1.0.4).
And if i come back to the script menu, I can't stop the script and need to remove the camera battery.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: delorossa on August 08, 2013, 04:14:55 PM
ML *is* supporting cards bigger than 32 GB. There is just one installation step (initialising the camera) which won't work. Therefore you need a card < 64 GB once to pass this limitation. After initialising the camera you can run ML from your 128 GB card.

ML is not replacing the firmware. It is more like a program on your computer loaded at startup. Therefore: No card with ML software on it -> ML is not running.

Google (or any other search engine) is your friend.

The most recent ML version requires FW 1.0.4.

Ciao
Walter


Hi Walter thx for the fast Questions,i dont understand!?

u say

"Therefore you need a card < 64 GB once to pass this limitation. After initialising the camera you can run ML from your 128 GB card."

and then u say

"Therefore: No card with ML software on it -> ML is not running."

- and how i unstill ML,Clearly?
- Can i use then 8 or 16gb Card to install only ML and after that i can use my 128GB Card and ML is working???Start ML from the Canon after Installed ML,or start it from THE SD CARD?

My English is not well,maybee here is a German guy who can help me.

regards


Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on August 08, 2013, 04:37:09 PM

Hi Walter thx for the fast Questions,i dont understand!?

u say

"Therefore you need a card < 64 GB once to pass this limitation. After initialising the camera you can run ML from your 128 GB card."

and then u say

"Therefore: No card with ML software on it -> ML is not running."

- and how i unstill ML,Clearly?
- Can i use then 8 or 16gb Card to install only ML and after that i can use my 128GB Card and ML is working???

My English is not well,maybee here is a German guy who can help me.

regards
You need to use your 8GB or 16GB card for the initial "install" of ML.  The smaller cards are required for running the firmware update to set the camera bootflag (THIS IS NOT THE FIRMWARE UPDATE TO 1.0.4).  From the instructions in the OP
"8. Start camera in M photo mode and run firmware update. THis will run the ML setup and make your card bootable too."
This is the update using 650D.104.installer.fir
After this initial update of the firmware to set the bootflag on the camera, you do NOT need to do a firmware update again.  You can install ML on the 128GB and set the bootflag on the card using EOSCard or MacBoot.  Put in the 128GB and ML will be loaded.  Any card without ML on it and the bootflag (on the card) not set will not run ML.

To say it another way, there are 2 bootflags.  One on the card and one on the camera.  You only need to set the bootflag on the camera once and the SD card used to do that must be 32GB or smaller.  After that is set, you must set the bootflag on each card you use.  Put ML on larger cards and set the bootflag on the card using EOSCard or MacBoot.  Your camera will run ML when that card is installed

If you set the bootflag on the card, you MUST have ML on the card or the camera won't appear to work. 
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: OpenMind on August 08, 2013, 06:27:44 PM
UPDATE TO 1.0.4

Hello dngrhm,

I see you have the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 STM lens.
Did you already try to film something with this lens in ML Movie Crop mode?
I experience short pauses in the recording when using this lens in crop mode during moving or panning.
Would you be so kind to test a few seconds with this lens while moving the camera fast? (like in sweeping / shaking / fast panning)

Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFKlpw7m5xk
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on August 08, 2013, 07:23:10 PM
Hello dngrhm,

I see you have the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 STM lens.
Did you already try to film something with this lens in ML Movie Crop mode?
I experience short pauses in the recording when using this lens in crop mode during moving or panning.
Would you be so kind to test a few seconds with this lens while moving the camera fast? (like in sweeping / shaking / fast panning)

Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFKlpw7m5xk
I am still running on 1.0.1  I will try this when I get a chance to update to 1.0.4 and build the 650D.104 ML
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 08, 2013, 07:38:15 PM
My English is not well,maybee here is a German guy who can help me.

Du musst beim 1. mal eine kleine Karte benutzen, da beim 1. mal in der Firmware der Bootflag geändert werden muss.

Danach lädt die Kamera von jeder bootfähigen Karte Magic Lantern.
Die Karte, auch die 128GB Karte, kannst du mit eoscard bootfähig machen.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 08, 2013, 07:57:25 PM
Noch ein bisschen ausfuehrlicher:
Nach dem Initialisieren der Kamera (Bootflag setzen, einmalig), kannst Du jede beliebige Karte verwenden. Wenn Du mit ML arbeiten willst, muss diese Karte 2 Bedingungen erfuellen: Sie muss - wie oben erwaehnt - bootfaehig sein und dazu muessen die ML-Dateien drauf sein. EOScard macht das in einem Aufwasch. Dann holst Du Dir jeweils von satrianis Dropbox die neuesten Versionen und kopierst die entpackten Dateien auf *alle* Karten, von denen Du ML laufen lassen willst.
Verwendest Du mehrere Karten? Dann kannst Du einen Abgleich der Einstellungen erreichen, indem Du diese einmalig in ML einrichtest und dann die MAGIC.CFG auf die anderen Karten kopierst. Geht leider nicht ueber die Kamera, das geschieht am besten am PC mit Kartenleser.

satrianis Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hxsv61cq992egmy/BtTgp4q6i0

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Kauf on August 08, 2013, 07:59:38 PM
Can someone explain the MZ issues-- the tearing versus in sync discussion started back in this post: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3697.msg45799#msg45799.

Does anyone have images or video that they can post to show what MZ behavior looks like on the 650d-- the flickering/tearing? Does the in sync/locked UI look the same as regular MZ, just with all other controls locked while zoomed? I'm trying to judge whether the 650d will be a viable upgrade for me when ML goes beta. Yes, you can call me conservative... but my friends call me chicken :) Thanks to all you pioneers for kicking the tires. And especially thank you nanomad for all your hard work!

I appreciate the upgrade feedback, but before the original question gets buried, can anyone post what the Magic Zoom issue looks like or describe it and its ramifications in detail. I haven't been able to get a feel for how usable it is from previous posts. Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on August 08, 2013, 10:04:50 PM
I am back grom my holiday, Greath to see the 1.04 progress. I  will be following This forum from next Monday again. I used ml on my travels. And I hope to share some pics ASAP.

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jaegersing on August 09, 2013, 11:57:36 AM
I appreciate the upgrade feedback, but before the original question gets buried, can anyone post what the Magic Zoom issue looks like or describe it and its ramifications in detail. I haven't been able to get a feel for how usable it is from previous posts. Thanks.

I have been using ML on a 550D for a while, and I just installed it on a 650D yesterday. The MZ on the 650D has a bit of flicker and line tearing, which was a bit disturbing at first. In practice, it doesn't make much difference and you can still do manual focusing quite easily. I don't have any video to show you, sorry.

BTW, I bought the 650D with 18 - 135 STM lens, hoping that I would be able to do autofocus in video mode. The reality is that the autofocusing is not very stable so I wouldn't risk using it for anything important. With hindsight, I wish I had used the money to buy a decent flash for the 550D.

Richard
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: delorossa on August 09, 2013, 02:38:59 PM
Is there an Option to change Language to German?

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on August 09, 2013, 03:20:28 PM
English only.
Oder einfach mal ein Wörterbuch mitschleppen :D
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: roterrion on August 09, 2013, 04:25:50 PM
I'm satisfied from nanomad's 1.04 build. Pretty stable, even though i got an "early stop" error from raw video, I believe, it tells me to report. so here it is. I did some bitrate hacks, max at 2.5x CBR hit 110mbps many times. I also record a timelapse test done with fps override on my way home yesterday and today as well. but i haven't uploaded today's timelapse, so here is yesterday's test. big thanks to nanomad.  ;D

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 09, 2013, 05:40:24 PM
Hola ,hago una consulta, es normal que cuando hago zoom (grabando en raw) suave varíe el brillo con parpadeos , tengo solo un objetivo zoom tamron 17 50 2.8 los demás son fijos y no tengo ese problema.


Hello, I make a query, it is normal that when I zoom (shooting in RAW) vary the brightness with soft flickering, I have only a zoom lens tamron 17 50 2.8 the others are fixed and I have that problem.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidbolman on August 10, 2013, 03:21:05 AM
  Hi every one, i´ve been reading to many threads and im very confused right now about installing magic lantern on my canon t4i,and i just bought a juiced link pream to conect my Rode Shotgun mics, and hypercardoid directly to my camera and it woks pretty well like recording audio separately.  but i read that audio doesnt work with magic lantern right?, so if is there a solution for this, because this preamp works great.


Then i have another question i bougt a PNY 64 gb 35 mbs sd card, and i read like you need more write speed on your card or something, and that is more difficult to install magic lantern on 64gb cards.   I need some help, my head feels like is going to explode and my brain is so hot i feel like is melting.


HELP PLEASE!! :-\
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on August 10, 2013, 02:13:02 PM
  Hi every one, i´ve been reading to many threads and im very confused right now about installing magic lantern on my canon t4i,and i just bought a juiced link pream to conect my Rode Shotgun mics, and hypercardoid directly to my camera and it woks pretty well like recording audio separately.  but i read that audio doesnt work with magic lantern right?, so if is there a solution for this, because this preamp works great.


Then i have another question i bougt a PNY 64 gb 35 mbs sd card, and i read like you need more write speed on your card or something, and that is more difficult to install magic lantern on 64gb cards.   I need some help, my head feels like is going to explode and my brain is so hot i feel like is melting.


HELP PLEASE!! :-\

1) Magic Lantern additional audio function doesn't work (like audio meter), but Canon audio functions still works fine : when you install Magic Lantern, It only adds functions, nothing is replaced in the Canon firmware. So all you can do without ML can be done with ML.

2) It appears you can't install ML with a 64gig card. Precisely, you can't use a 64gig card to set the bootdisk flag of the camera.
So, follow the instructions and install ML with a 32gig card or less (=set the bootdisk flag in the camera).
Once the bootdisk flag is setted in the camera, you can install ML on other cards, including 64gig one's by copy/paste your ML files on your 64gig card and enable the bootdisk and EOS_develop flag of the card manualy with EOS Card (on windows).

650d/T4i has maximum write/read speed around 40mb/sec . Generaly ML User wants the maximum speed for shoot RAW video.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: donjames150 on August 10, 2013, 02:19:46 PM
  Hi every one, i´ve been reading to many threads and im very confused right now about installing magic lantern on my canon t4i,and i just bought a juiced link pream to conect my Rode Shotgun mics, and hypercardoid directly to my camera and it woks pretty well like recording audio separately.  but i read that audio doesnt work with magic lantern right?, so if is there a solution for this, because this preamp works great.


Then i have another question i bougt a PNY 64 gb 35 mbs sd card, and i read like you need more write speed on your card or something, and that is more difficult to install magic lantern on 64gb cards.   I need some help, my head feels like is going to explode and my brain is so hot i feel like is melting.


HELP PLEASE!! :-\

David, all your questions are covered in this thread and the obsoleted Canon 650D thread. In Nanomad's first post in this thread he says there are problems with audio
"What's currently not working: All ML features that have to do with audio"
as to write speed, if you want to shoot raw, get at least the 45 mb/s card, 35 is too slow.

and yes you need a smaller than 64G card to install
Nanomad: "Yes, the installer (or any canon update for that matter) won't work on cards bigger than 32 GB"
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 10, 2013, 02:25:21 PM
The first 9 seconds while RAW recording the frame dont show up. I am using the 04.08 Satriani Build.
Does it still happen on newer builds?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on August 10, 2013, 04:11:24 PM
does not work Image review
    QuickReview default: just like in standard firmware.
    CanonMnu:Hold→PLAY: if you set Image Review: Hold in Canon menu, it will go to PLAY mode instead. This allows you to zoom in as soon as you take the picture (without having to press PLAY). Credits goto Ken Rockwell for suggesting this.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on August 10, 2013, 06:34:57 PM
Does anyone can confirm me that PicoC scripts doesn't work on ML 650d for 1.0.4 ? (Doesn't work for me)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ClearlyRobert on August 10, 2013, 07:15:35 PM
I can't find bulb ramping on the Shoot, or any other, menu. 
Directions?
Is this part of 1.0.4 for the 650D?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Jockerl on August 10, 2013, 07:20:36 PM
I can't find bulb ramping on the Shoot, or any other, menu. 
Directions?
Is this part of 1.0.4 for the 650D?
For timelapse use ETTR + PostDeflicker --> http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5705.0
Did it on the 650D a few days ago and it worked very well.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mkay on August 10, 2013, 07:37:16 PM
I have just tried raw video on the 650d but the images have some noticable errors on multiple places - is anybody experiencing the same issue?
(http://oi41.tinypic.com/15yg4rc.jpg)

details:
650D on 1.0.4
EF-S 18-135 IS STM
ML for 650D 1.0.4 (3.8.2013 1st alpha build)

Raw Video:
1280 x 720 @ 25FPS
1/100 f5.6 ISO 100
converted to DNG via RAWnizer 0.6.0
Imported as a sequence in AE

Here's a video example of some other guy, if you watch in fullscreen you can see the pink dots on dark surfaces: (He used: Canon EOS 650D + 50mm f/1.8 II)

More videos which show up this issue on the 650d:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9whq5NmKJ8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9whq5NmKJ8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cwz_WGEGHk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cwz_WGEGHk)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ClearlyRobert on August 10, 2013, 08:20:09 PM
For timelapse use ETTR + PostDeflicker --> http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5705.0
Did it on the 650D a few days ago and it worked very well.

Thanks...will try that!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 10, 2013, 08:34:54 PM
I have just tried raw video on the 650d but the images have some noticable errors on multiple places - is anybody experiencing the same issue?
Yes, http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.0
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mkay on August 10, 2013, 09:58:38 PM
Yes, http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.0
cool, thanks! :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on August 11, 2013, 02:49:04 AM

Here's a video example of some other guy, if you watch in fullscreen you can see the pink dots on dark surfaces: (He used: Canon EOS 650D + 50mm f/1.8 II)


That's my video. :D

That was filmed long before PDRtool came out. Should probably add that in the description.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidbolman on August 11, 2013, 02:52:53 AM
David, all your questions are covered in this thread and the obsoleted Canon 650D thread. In Nanomad's first post in this thread he says there are problems with audio
"What's currently not working: All ML features that have to do with audio"
as to write speed, if you want to shoot raw, get at least the 45 mb/s card, 35 is too slow.

and yes you need a smaller than 64G card to install
Nanomad: "Yes, the installer (or any canon update for that matter) won't work on cards bigger than 32 GB"

Thank you very much for helping me, i really appreciate.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidbolman on August 11, 2013, 02:54:25 AM
1) Magic Lantern additional audio function doesn't work (like audio meter), but Canon audio functions still works fine : when you install Magic Lantern, It only adds functions, nothing is replaced in the Canon firmware. So all you can do without ML can be done with ML.

2) It appears you can't install ML with a 64gig card. Precisely, you can't use a 64gig card to set the bootdisk flag of the camera.
So, follow the instructions and install ML with a 32gig card or less (=set the bootdisk flag in the camera).
Once the bootdisk flag is setted in the camera, you can install ML on other cards, including 64gig one's by copy/paste your ML files on your 64gig card and enable the bootdisk and EOS_develop flag of the card manualy with EOS Card (on windows).

650d/T4i has maximum write/read speed around 40mb/sec . Generaly ML User wants the maximum speed for shoot RAW video.


Thanks a lot for helping me, i really apreciate that, im happy now ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 11, 2013, 11:43:12 AM
@nanomad:

From your post http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3697.msg44640#msg44640
Quote
Trap focus is not working on the 650D because canon isn't updating the "realtime" focusinfo anymore
Unless you have the lens set to AF  ::)"

Same issue with 1.0.4?

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rythmtech on August 11, 2013, 12:43:33 PM
From your post http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3697.msg44640#msg44640
Quote
But there is an ML alpha 2 doing trap focus without hardware tweaks. ;-)

On the bottom of the linked post above re: Trap Focus.... would love to try this out....any closer to a solution?

Love your work!

Cheers,
Rythmtech
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mkay on August 11, 2013, 06:11:57 PM
That's my video. :D

That was filmed long before PDRtool came out. Should probably add that in the description.
Yep, good idea. Cool video though ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mkay on August 11, 2013, 06:43:49 PM
A question just popped in to my head.

There was buzz a while back about clean HDMI out on the T4i, and while default firmware's HDMI signal is cropped down did ML ever get us full 1080p HDMI out? I'd love to know because I'm debating whether or not to get an Atmos Ninja or similar.
Hmm i think we should just try this one ourselves. Unfortunately I don't have a mini HDMI cable or adapter, so i can't atm. But it would be good to know.

I don't know if this is already outdated but:
Quote
While these devices are capable of recording 1080p 422 signals, the HDMI output from the Canon HDMI is limited to 1620x1080 (3:2) while the camera is not recording. This requires the user to crop the footage from the external recorder to 1620x910 (16:9) and then resize it to either 1280x720 (79%) or 1920x1080 (119%).
http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/HDMI_Output
And how about the FPS of HDMI out? is this fixed to 24 or 25, or what does it depend on?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on August 11, 2013, 08:27:40 PM
Hmm i think we should just try this one ourselves. Unfortunately I don't have a mini HDMI cable or adapter, so i can't atm. But it would be good to know.

I don't know if this is already outdated but:http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/HDMI_Output
And how about the FPS of HDMI out? is this fixed to 24 or 25, or what does it depend on?

I'd assume it's relative to the framerate setting in camera. And while cropping up does reduce quality it seems like 119% wouldn't degrade your footage too much. Plus the 4:2:2 is much better than the H264 in-camera, even with increased bitrate.

I may have to look in to this further.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Carlosdurm on August 12, 2013, 09:09:37 AM
Is it possible to record continuous 1080p raw on the t4i? 
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on August 12, 2013, 10:00:46 AM
Is it possible to record continuous 1080p raw on the t4i?

simple answer, No. more advance answer, search through the forum :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 12, 2013, 11:17:22 AM
Is it possible to record continuous 1080p raw on the t4i?
Yes, nearly 1080p, finding the highest possible fps is your task.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: imak on August 12, 2013, 03:18:06 PM
Hi, sorry if it has already been mentioned but, after installing ML, is there any way of putting the camera completly back to stock? And is it still  possible to use the normal canon menu while ML is installed ?

Thank you all in advance .
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on August 12, 2013, 03:22:33 PM
Hi, sorry if it has already been mentioned but, after installing ML, is there any way of putting the camera completly back to stock? And is it still  possible to use the normal canon menu while ML is installed ?

Thank you all in advance .

This is all well documented in the wiki:
http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/install

However, Yes in can be set back to stock, and yes you can ( and should? ) use the canon menu.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: imak on August 12, 2013, 03:28:47 PM
I guess i've been a Litlle lazy, thank you for the fast answer ,although i've already found the wiki and was reading it, found it right after I've posted the questions, the answers are right at the begining.  Thank you
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 12, 2013, 07:31:09 PM
-- Deleted bug report, possible test environment error. My wrong! ---
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on August 12, 2013, 09:34:03 PM
I have recorded a one minute raw footage with the 650D using ML and I felt like I should share it here.. Because you guys are doing an amazing work, bringing a whole new life to our DSLRs :)

Plus I would be happy to see your opinion on the video. Thanks.

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kiketon on August 13, 2013, 10:40:29 AM
Hi everyone,
first i would like to thank to all the team for your work... amazing!
i don´t know if i´m doing something wrong but rack focus doesnt work for me...
it works properly whithout recording but when i press play (rack focus button) doesnt rec anything...(it tries)
if i press rec, and then i go to the MG menu and i press rack focus, the function doesn´t work properly.... it seem like loses the reference points of focus...

Thanks in advance!!!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: denister on August 13, 2013, 11:27:09 AM
ty nomad for this...
Q: what about defishing?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kzi2006 on August 13, 2013, 11:28:59 AM
I have recorded a one minute raw footage with the 650D using ML and I felt like I should share it here.. Because you guys are doing an amazing work, bringing a whole new life to our DSLRs :)
Really? ))) 650D RAW shooting -  absolutelly useless feature.
And? What is it?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on August 13, 2013, 07:43:31 PM


I don't get what are you trying to say by "Absolutely Useless feature".  If it's a feature then it's not useless. Despite the fact that, the whole of us have agreed that it's a great feature and Magic Lantern team is including it in their builds.

I just posted this early test video here to sum up what is done until here on the development of the feature, because all the test videos were recorded using the old 1.0.1 version.

And I assume this is nearly a dev topic. So please don't spam by saying thing like "This feature is useless", "What is it? What is that?" ,..
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 30dbs on August 13, 2013, 08:45:51 PM
I don't get what are you trying to say by "Absolutely Useless feature".  If it's a feature then it's not useless. Despite the fact that, the whole of us have agreed that it's a great feature and Magic Lantern team is including it in their builds.

I just posted this early test video here to sum up what is done until here on the development of the feature, because all the test videos were recorded using the old 1.0.1 version.

And I assume this is nearly a dev topic. So please don't spam by saying thing like "This feature is useless", "What is it? What is that?" ,..

I agree RAW is a useful feature, I only have a very few uses for it but I'm glad its there when I do. I saw on the description of your vid that the pinkdots are gone, is this true? this will be great if it is!.

I plan on testing asap.

I see the ML team have now got duel-iso working on the 6d and others, I wonder if we'll get it on the 650d too?

EDIT: Just tested and I still get the pink dots =(
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on August 13, 2013, 10:01:34 PM

EDIT: Just tested and I still get the pink dots =(


You've got to use the PinkDotRemover Tool (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658) to remove the dots. It's a bug with the T4i and EOS-M (as well as the t5i I'm assuming) due to the new autofocus tracking point system.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 30dbs on August 13, 2013, 10:34:48 PM
You've got to use the PinkDotRemover Tool (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658) to remove the dots. It's a bug with the T4i and EOS-M (as well as the t5i I'm assuming) due to the new autofocus tracking point system.

Thanks but I was referring to the fact that minlite13 specifically said he didn't use that tool, upon further inspection of his video (ie in 1080p ) you can still see the pink dots too.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on August 13, 2013, 10:44:35 PM
Thanks but I was referring to the fact that minlite13 specifically said he didn't use that tool, upon further inspection of his video (ie in 1080p ) you can still see the pink dots too.
Yes. I didn't use any PickDotRemoval tool. Because of some reasons.

1. The PinkDotRemoval Java application is calibrated to be used with the 1280x720 resolution. I only had a SanDisk Extreme 30mb/s card around so I couldn't record in that resolution. I recorded in 960x540 instead, so basically, the PinkDotRemoval tool wouldn't work.

2. And I tested RawTherapee app on my Mac too. But I wasn't comfortable with using it's settings. Although the hot/dead pixel removal option worked very well, the main problem was that I wanted to use Adobe CameraRaw to process the DNG files, but RawTherapee couldn't reproduce fixed DNG files.

So I couldn't use any pink dot removal tool. After processing with Adobe CameraRaw, the dots weren't visible that much, but if you see in 1080p. you can see that they are still there.

Anyways sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kiketon on August 13, 2013, 11:09:02 PM
Hi!
Anyone tried rack focus?
It seems like is not working properly...
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 13, 2013, 11:41:20 PM
It seems like is not working properly...
I think you should explain what not work properly.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kzi2006 on August 14, 2013, 08:08:03 AM
I don't get what are you trying to say by "Absolutely Useless feature".  If it's a feature then it's not useless. Despite the fact that, the whole of us have agreed that it's a great feature and Magic Lantern team is including it in their builds.
And I assume this is nearly a dev topic. So please don't spam by saying thing like "This feature is useless", "What is it? What is that?" ,..
I am professional cameraman at least 15 years (and you?) , and saying - you footage is rubbish... dropped frames ets)
RAW video is only for advanced color correction and grading, nothing more nothing less, not increasing quality and dynamic range that cheapest camera.
BTW - there is no way to record long, usefull, non dropped frames FullHD RAW on 650D due flash card i/o module - you just wasting you time
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on August 14, 2013, 09:28:23 AM
I am professional cameraman at least 15 years (and you?) , and saying - you footage is rubbish... dropped frames ets)
RAW video is only for advanced color correction and grading, nothing more nothing less, not increasing quality and dynamic range that cheapest camera.
BTW - there is no way to record long, usefull, non dropped frames FullHD RAW on 650D due flash card i/o module - you just wasting you time

On some level I mus agree with you. The 650 is not the best model for RAW video. However it is possible to shoot better video in some scenes using raw and proper post. It all depens on the scene and what you do with the material in post. The stock 650D shoots good full HD video, and will be more than sufficient for most users, however playing around with these RAW options is just fun and that is not wasting time for me!.

Additional please keep in mind that this is Alpha software....  we seem to have hit a brick wall in write speed, but who knows... we may find a wat to fix that.

Please use this forum in a constructive way, if you do not like an option provided by the developers...  you don't have to use it.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kiketon on August 14, 2013, 09:41:58 AM
I think you should explain what not work properly.

yes, you are right... i tried but i did not have awnser...
i copy here my last post:


Hi everyone,
first i would like to thank to all the team for your work... amazing!
i don´t know if i´m doing something wrong but rack focus doesnt work for me...
it works properly whithout recording but when i press play (rack focus button) doesnt rec anything...(it tries)
if i press rec, and then i go to the MG menu and i press rack focus, the function doesn´t work properly.... it seem like loses the reference points of focus...

Thanks in advance!!!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 30dbs on August 14, 2013, 09:59:13 AM
RAW video is only for advanced color correction and grading, nothing more nothing less, not increasing quality and dynamic range that cheapest camera.

I recently used the RAW mode to shoot some 720p greenscreen footage, as no (lossy) compression is being applied it results in a MUCH better keying. I was shooting an actor in portrait mode and rotating into landscape so I actually had in excess of 1080p res vertically (1280p effectively) . which was perfect for my needs. please don't assume because YOU don't need it, that it isn't useful.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on August 14, 2013, 04:11:38 PM
This isn't a deal site but there might be many interested... Amazon (at least US) has SanDisk 45MB/s 32GB, 64GB & 128GB cards on sale.  I've been following the 32GB and it is about $5 off what it normally is.  Great time to buy if you have been considering the upgrade to 720p RAW on the 650D.

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-Class-Memory-SDSDX-032G-AFFP/dp/B007M54E1M/
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on August 14, 2013, 04:20:23 PM
I recently used the RAW mode to shoot some 720p greenscreen footage, as no (lossy) compression is being applied it results in a MUCH better keying. I was shooting an actor in portrait mode and rotating into landscape so I actually had in excess of 1080p res vertically (1280p effectively) . which was perfect for my needs. please don't assume because YOU don't need it, that it isn't useful.
AWESOME IDEA! I hadn't thought of shooting in portrait for green screen.  You only need to capture the actor and can expand out the sides.

Idea for RAW.  Allow resolutions 1080p tall and as wide as the data rate will allow.  Rough calc 1280x720/1080 = ~850.  maybe 850 wide x 1080 high.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on August 14, 2013, 09:18:23 PM
I am professional cameraman at least 15 years (and you?) , and saying - you footage is rubbish... dropped frames ets)
RAW video is only for advanced color correction and grading, nothing more nothing less, not increasing quality and dynamic range that cheapest camera.
BTW - there is no way to record long, usefull, non dropped frames FullHD RAW on 650D due flash card i/o module - you just wasting you time

I repeat again. That was just a test footage. The purpose is to see if there are dropped frames. How can you complain about being dropped frames. :|
I don't see any reason, that I should reply to your attempt to show off. I don't care if you are a professional cameraman or whatever. I just judge you with what you post here.
And attempting to solve things and getting things better is not wasting time. The reason that today you can use Magic Lantern, is that the guys have "wasted their times" solving problems and developing great products.

And when it comes to computers, there is nothing absolutely impossible. You will always find a way of doing it.
Just to prove you are wrong, here is an idea to overcome the problem that just hit my mind. You can connect two cards in a RAID-0 like , hardware level array, which will double the performance.
For example if you have two 8 GB 30 MB/s cards, you can get one 8 GB 60 MB/s card out of the two cards.
See, it's not impossible. You just have to think a little.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 14, 2013, 09:42:51 PM
And when it comes to computers, there is nothing absolutely impossible. You will always find a way of doing it.
Just to prove you are wrong, here is an idea to overcome the problem that just hit my mind. You can connect two cards in a RAID-0 like , hardware level array, which will double the performance.
For example if you have two 8 GB 30 MB/s cards, you can get one 8 GB 60 MB/s card out of the two cards.
See, it's not impossible. You just have to think a little.
This is pointless, the problem isn't the card there are 95MB/s cards available.  The problem is the controller into the camera.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 14, 2013, 10:14:08 PM
Hola, consulta ..es imposible grabar a 1280X720 teniendo tarjeta rápida ,  se puede realmente o es simplemente para grabar unos segundos?

traductor google.

Hi, see .. is impossible to record a quick card 1280X720 taking no more than a few seconds, you can really or is simply to record a few seconds?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 14, 2013, 11:13:52 PM
It is possible to record 720p24 continuously.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on August 14, 2013, 11:26:46 PM
This is a reply aimed at RAW video shooters, and mkay, minlite13 and papkee in particular.

To capture your RAW footage at 720p, what specific cards are you using? I'm trying to determine if I need to upgrade from my Sandisk 32GB 45MB/s or whether this card can shoot RAW continuously at 720p.


Also, after watching some of the footage tests you guys have done:

It looks good, but at 1080p you guys are getting a LOT of noise! Are you doing any kind of color grading that would lead to this level of degradation? Is anyone here doing any noise reduction on their RAW footage?


I guess I'm not quite convinced that shooting at 720p RAW, and then blowing the image up, is going to result in a better image quality than shooting with Canon's firmware at 1080p.

I'd love for someone to prove me wrong with a side by side test, though!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 15, 2013, 12:37:03 AM
Hello, I tried several resolutions the most 8G sdhc constant 90m / s
 
1472x626 and 616 is perfect, flawless pinkdotremove continuous recording
1728x736 even better but not record almost anything and will not pinkdotremove
1728x526 works perfect and consistent with good quality but not going pinkfotremove

A highlight for me are the actual colors that can be achieved, the quality of these resolutions compared to 1080p really do not know.



Hola, probé con varias resoluciones la mas constante con sdhc de 8G 90m/s
 
1472x626 y  616 va perfecto , graba continuo y pinkdotremove impecable
1728x736 mejor aun pero no graba casi nada y pinkdotremove no va
1728x526 funciona perfecto y constante con buena calidad pero pinkfotremove no va

A destacar para mi son los colores reales que se pueden lograr, la calidad  en esas resoluciones comparado con 1080p la verdad no lo se.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dalanz on August 15, 2013, 01:39:56 PM
For timelapse use ETTR + PostDeflicker --> http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5705.0
Did it on the 650D a few days ago and it worked very well.

Hi Jockerl,

I may be a bit confused, but I think that ETTR + PostDeflicker has nothing to do with Bulb Ramping for timelapses. In addition, ETTR is not enabled for 650D, that is still in progress.

I have just installed ML and Bulb Ramping is not there, so I would like to know if this feature will be enable in a near future :-)

Regards,

Daniel
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 15, 2013, 05:10:45 PM
In addition, ETTR is not enabled for 650D, that is still in progress.

You may wrong here. Download satriani's newest build from his dropbox and copy the files over

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: JKB2013 on August 15, 2013, 08:11:19 PM
I´ve uploaded an h264 vs raw comparison video, the difference is huge.
In my opinion it´s a really useful function in many situations, even though the workflow is more complicated.


Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dalanz on August 15, 2013, 09:33:05 PM
You may wrong here. Download satriani's newest build from his dropbox and copy the files over

Ciao
Walter

Ok! Thank you
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: delorossa on August 15, 2013, 10:09:13 PM
@ JKB2013

and wich one is REC with Raw??? right or left???
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: JKB2013 on August 15, 2013, 10:18:07 PM
@ JKB2013

and wich one is REC with Raw??? right or left???

The clip you see first is h264.
So the left one is raw.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: GaryTavish on August 15, 2013, 10:42:24 PM
Hello,I really love this awesome FW, it make every thing easy when I use my old YASHICA lens. about 3 weeks ago, My 650D send to canon to clean,I borrow a 600D from my friend, and I install ML on his 600D, But he told me uninstall ML totally before I return his 600D,because he just take photo and don't need ML. So I want to know, How to uninstall ML even BOOTDISK flag in camera.(I know I can uninstall by format SD Card and Clean all user setting in canon menu to clean NVRAM,But it still BOOTDISK flag in camera,right?) BTW,I'm still study in university, my major is Electron Technology,and I have a part-time job work with Embedded system:)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on August 15, 2013, 10:54:49 PM
How to uninstall ML even BOOTDISK flag in camera
You can't that I'm aware of.  Maybe "re-upgading" the firmware will, but I don't know for sure.

This really isn't a major concern as the camera BOOTFLAG doesn't affect function unless you have an SD card with ML on it.

Formatting the card in camera with ML running and pressing Q to erase ML from the SD card will also clear the BOOTFLAG on that card.  Should be all you need to do.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: GaryTavish on August 15, 2013, 11:20:23 PM
You can't that I'm aware of.  Maybe "re-upgading" the firmware will, but I don't know for sure.

This really isn't a major concern as the camera BOOTFLAG doesn't affect function unless you have an SD card with ML on it.

Formatting the card in camera with ML running and pressing Q to erase ML from the SD card will also clear the BOOTFLAG on that card.  Should be all you need to do.
Thanks:)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on August 16, 2013, 12:07:23 AM
Hey guys,
just for info, the link to daily builds for 650D was changed, so you find it from now here (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/demgitqk7a6ixsv/b_Eh0sVSGi) or just take a look to my signature.
BTW: There are no changes in source, so no updates. I think the devs doing a little pause  :P
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on August 16, 2013, 12:27:58 AM


I´ve uploaded an h264 vs raw comparison video, the difference is huge.
In my opinion it´s a really useful function in many situations, even though the workflow is more complicated.



Wow, JKB that looks incredible!

I'm confused by when you say the H.264 has been expanded 120%. Can you explain that?

I'm a newbie obviously about how Canon's firmware H264 compression works.

Does the Canon firmware actually shoot at 1920x1080, or like ML does it shoot at lower dimensions and then expand to 1080? In that case, is neither the Canon firmware nor Magic Lantern "true 1080p" ?

Also here's what I'm trying to figure out:

Papkee in a private message says I can shoot RAW video continuously on my Sandisk 45 MB/s card and can get a maximum dimension of 1472x672.

I'm not a math or numbers person or good with aspect ratios, haha, so I apologize in advance if this sounds stupid. So here's what I'm trying to discover.

Say I don't want to expand my 1472x672 footage fully to 1080p, but want to only expand it enough so that it stretches across the screen (with black aspect ratio bars on top and bottom). Would this result in a sharper image than expanding it fully to 1080p, or because of proportions would this simply make my image look stretched/weird?



Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: JKB2013 on August 16, 2013, 12:49:45 AM

Wow, JKB that looks incredible!

I'm confused by when you say the H.264 has been expanded 120%. Can you explain that?

I'm a newbie obviously about how Canon's firmware H264 compression works.

Does the Canon firmware actually shoot at 1920x1080, or like ML does it shoot at lower dimensions and then expand to 1080? In that case, is neither the Canon firmware nor Magic Lantern "true 1080p" ?


Thanks!

Recording in 1080p with canon firmware gives you a bigger frame than recording at 1600x600 in raw. So i had to scale up the h264 version by 20% to make it fit to the raw version for a better comparison.
The Raw Version was also scaled up by 20% to 1920x720.
So normally you would get a slightly better quality with the h264 than its shown in the video since its scaled up a bit.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on August 16, 2013, 01:21:44 AM
Thanks for the info!


Maybe I missed this, but has anyone done a Youtube/Vimeo vid of Canon 1080p vs ML video scaled up to 1080p? I'd love to see if there's a big difference at those dimensions.

If so, I'm sold!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: OpenMind on August 16, 2013, 02:10:45 AM
I think the devs doing a little pause  :P
They also need vacation so I'm guessing they're on Ibiza now to spend the donations in an appropriate way  ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on August 16, 2013, 03:09:19 AM
Figured I'd share some work that I've made recently with Canon's firmware at 1080p.

Right now I'm doing all I can to trick out my T4i/650D. Using a prime lens (Canon 50mm f1.8 ) for optimum sharpness and an ND filter to knock down sunlight in shallow depth of field shots.

I really curious if people think I can get a better quality image with ML, scaling the ML Raw footage to 1080p, than the footage I took with the Canon firmware at 1080p below:


Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on August 16, 2013, 05:01:00 AM
Right now I'm doing all I can to trick out my T4i/650D. Using a prime lens (Canon 50mm f1.8 ) for optimum sharpness and an ND filter to knock down sunlight in shallow depth of field shots.

I really curious if people think I can get a better quality image with ML, scaling the ML Raw footage to 1080p, than the footage I took with the Canon firmware at 1080p below:
Very nicely done video. There are some workflow hurdles with RAW and how you choose to overcome them can change the final video.  There is a lot of potential with the RAW recording especially for sharpness and dynamic range.  The scaling is an issue but the other option is the compression artifacts in the h.264 video.  The question is if you can use it to help out your video.  The RAW comparisons in this and other RAW video threads are rather convincing to me that the benefits outweigh the scaling. 
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: vieyedpeas9 on August 16, 2013, 12:19:20 PM
The Dropbox for the updates (650d, 1.0.4)seems to be offline  :-\!
And if I record raw video at any resolution i am getting red and a few blue points in a mysterious accurate shape...
Is that a known issue?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 16, 2013, 12:30:34 PM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.0
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on August 16, 2013, 12:37:55 PM
Don't you think we should somehow make sticky a post or in a some way inform the rest of the people who just came here about the pink dots?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Fuma on August 16, 2013, 12:51:02 PM
The link in the first Post to Satrianis DropBox Folder must be changed

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/demgitqk7a6ixsv/b_Eh0sVSGi
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 16, 2013, 01:03:13 PM
Don't you think we should somehow make sticky a post or in a some way inform the rest of the people who just came here about the pink dots?

There are lots of sticky posts out there. I think it would be a little bit easier if Nanomad puts a link to the RAW postprocessing thread in the first post and pink/red dot removal will be linked there.
Second usefull link will be another to Pelican's 3 RAW video enabler files. We've seen several people just downloading a single file (the RAW video module) and running into the same error.

Just suggestions.

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on August 16, 2013, 03:42:58 PM
Very nicely done video. There are some workflow hurdles with RAW and how you choose to overcome them can change the final video.  There is a lot of potential with the RAW recording especially for sharpness and dynamic range.  The scaling is an issue but the other option is the compression artifacts in the h.264 video.  The question is if you can use it to help out your video.  The RAW comparisons in this and other RAW video threads are rather convincing to me that the benefits outweigh the scaling.


Thank you dngrhm! I appreciate the feedback!


Yeah, compression artifacts/noise can be a real headache with H.264, especially if you want to do any kind of extreme color grading.

If you have a shot that isn't exposed EXACTLY correctly with H.264, you're hugely limited in what types of correction/grading you can do.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nosemiguel on August 16, 2013, 08:36:10 PM
Magic Lantern is one of the best things I've ever come across!

Thank you so much for the incredible work!

Question: Is there or will there be a shortcut to ISO on the 650D? Maybe I'm just missing it.

Thanks a lot
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: RafaLibrenz on August 17, 2013, 02:10:18 AM
I think I found a BUG: in "Image review settings", the function "SET+MainDial" does not work. When I try, the camera jumps 10 images. It used to work in older version (1.0.1).

Another thing: 600D and 700D get (today) the feature "Dual ISO". I hope it come soon for 650D. :)

Question: Is there or will there be a shortcut to ISO on the 650D? Maybe I'm just missing it.

Yes, is there! 650D has a button called 'ISO':

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mc970FFE1hg/Ug67ZPAndCI/AAAAAAAAIK4/5NUpKB-v3k0/w440-h330-p/EOS-650D-Top.jpg)

Does anyone can confirm me that PicoC scripts doesn't work on ML 650d for 1.0.4 ? (Doesn't work for me)

I can confirm. Scripts don't work here.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on August 17, 2013, 03:50:11 AM
I recently lost my memory card so I got an identical model and extracted http://nanomad.magiclantern.fm/650D/magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug03.650D104.zip to the root of the card. I than replaced the ML directory and autoexec.bin with the latest from satriani so I now have those files plus the install and help pdf's plus the fir file but ML is acting weird now, zebras work sometimes but not always and when i try to view the built in help files it says they aren't there. What should I do?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nosemiguel on August 17, 2013, 12:11:05 PM


Yes, is there! 650D has a button called 'ISO':



Thanks for your answer. I know that button but it's only for Canon ISO. I meant a shortcut to ML ISO's, like the 600D has, where you can change ISO with the arrow keys and you get the 'better' increments.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: delorossa on August 17, 2013, 04:13:51 PM
how long it will take to a stable version of ML for 650D?

Regards
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 17, 2013, 04:16:17 PM
I broke my crystall ball, sorry.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 17, 2013, 05:23:59 PM
Suggestion: bundle autoexpo module with the next builds. It works better than P mode and brings 5D/1D-like features to the 650D (auto iso range, shutter range, aperture range, custom exposure curve)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: denister on August 17, 2013, 05:26:31 PM
I broke my crystall ball, sorry.
;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on August 17, 2013, 09:43:39 PM
Suggestion: bundle autoexpo module with the next builds. It works better than P mode and brings 5D/1D-like features to the 650D (auto iso range, shutter range, aperture range, custom exposure curve)

already done (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/demgitqk7a6ixsv/RjeSke1EXI/ML_N_17.08.2013.zip), awaiting dual_iso :P
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: TheUnkn0wn on August 17, 2013, 10:07:24 PM
I think I've fixed the pink dot issue, would be nice if someone could test this on a 650D (I don't have one, but the 700D is pretty much the same)

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/184/700d-650d-remove-pink-dots-from-raw/diff
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 17, 2013, 10:08:52 PM
already done (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/demgitqk7a6ixsv/RjeSke1EXI/ML_N_17.08.2013.zip), awaiting dual_iso :P
Ops! Confess, you stole that interface from NCC-1701!
I'm tempted to look for a tutorial ...

Kidding, this is a good day indeed!

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on August 17, 2013, 10:12:07 PM
I think I've fixed the pink dot issue, would be nice if someone could test this on a 650D (I don't have one, but the 700D is pretty much the same)

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/184/700d-650d-remove-pink-dots-from-raw/diff

I dont know if the fix is included in the build satriani just compiled an hour ago or so but in this build i still get pink dots
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 17, 2013, 10:14:15 PM
Doesn't look like. Change log does not include this commit.

Ciao, Walter

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: TheUnkn0wn on August 17, 2013, 10:26:39 PM
No, my pull request is pending. If you really can't wait then try THIS (http://"http://puu.sh/44bEJ.zip").

Please respond with your results!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 17, 2013, 10:29:36 PM
The request just got approved.

Now we need a new build. ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on August 17, 2013, 10:30:46 PM
Doesn't look like. Change log does not include this commit.
Right Walter :)
Playing with dual_iso seems to be exactly like a 700D :D

EDIT: Not, my bad. Needs to be ported  ::)
Quote
ISOless LV err(2)

@TheUnkn0wn: Sadly your link is broken, also your build :(
I compiled the new build with fixed red dots and actually they're gone but now came the green dots and occupied the entire screen  ;D
Here the new build who want test it. (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/demgitqk7a6ixsv/lfaeZJ1O4b/ML_N_17.08.2013_02.zip)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on August 17, 2013, 11:17:15 PM
well works fantastic for me here!!

wait do you actually mean there are green dots? cause I see non on my test
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 17, 2013, 11:23:13 PM
I was so happy :'(
Raw 99 is full of green dots on the 650D :/
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: TheUnkn0wn on August 17, 2013, 11:25:09 PM
Green dots!? Can you provide a picture? Has anyone else had this problem yet?

Try RAW_TYPE 78
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on August 17, 2013, 11:26:46 PM
Green dots!? Can you provide a picture? Has anyone else had this problem yet?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6p287wanfk6ehob/650D.104-TEST.zip

I have not seen any green dots here. tested with iso 100

If its any help, I tested both 99 and 78 builds and both show no pink or green dots for that matter
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: TheUnkn0wn on August 17, 2013, 11:46:02 PM
Thanks for helping test these changes, I've pushed a pull request with the fixes ;)

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/186/700d-650d-found-better-raw_type/diff
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on August 17, 2013, 11:48:28 PM
Zebras seem to be working for me now after running the firmware update again from a ML card but ML still says it cannot find the help files.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 18, 2013, 12:03:06 AM
Hola , modo raw a 1472x616 24FPS iso 800 no se ven puntos asi que ... FANTASTICO . Muchas gracias .

Hello, raw mode to 1472x616 24FPS iso 800 points are not so ... FANTASTIC. Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: TheUnkn0wn on August 18, 2013, 03:11:25 AM
Could anyone with a 650D and ML please read this?

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.msg67904#msg67904

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dimx on August 18, 2013, 12:55:43 PM
Почему при фотографировании с экрана, не отображаются области фокусировки (зелёные квадратики)? Как вернуть?
google:
Why did the photography from the screen, the focus area is not displayed (green squares)? How to return?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 18, 2013, 01:24:44 PM
Why did the photography from the screen, the focus area is not displayed (green squares)? How to return?

Overlay -> Global Draw -> Q -> ON, all modes
Overlay -> Focus Peak -> Set (if Off)
Overlay -> Focus Peak -> Q -> Color -> Green

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dimx on August 18, 2013, 02:14:17 PM
Overlay -> Global Draw -> Q -> ON, all modes
Overlay -> Focus Peak -> Set (if Off)
Overlay -> Focus Peak -> Q -> Color -> Green

Ciao
Walter
Спасибо.
Но... я говорю не про точки, а про квадраты
google:
Thank you.
But ... I'm not talking about points, but about squares
(http://i.imgur.com/ALhBx8ml.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on August 18, 2013, 04:20:25 PM
I confirm that the pink dots are gone!! :) (Special thanks to theunkn0wn). And as far as I've tested, there are no green dots in my 650D and raw.

However, I still experience issues compiling the ML. As far as I've searches, all the compile guides out there are out-dated and unusable.

I tried to build on all GCC versions (from 4.6.2 to 4.8.1) with both the none-eabi and elf targets, but none of them could build the ML successfully.

Can please someone who can build now (like satriani or theunkn0wn), provide us with their gcc binaries?

Thanks ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 18, 2013, 04:41:11 PM
Post the build logs. Ubuntu's toolchain is good. That's what I use every single day. You need to create a Makefile.user with the correct paths and GCC versions though.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on August 18, 2013, 05:13:29 PM
Post the build logs. Ubuntu's toolchain is good. That's what I use every single day. You need to create a Makefile.user with the correct paths and GCC versions though.

With none-eabi (which is supported in newer versions of gcc) I get this error:
Code: [Select]
stubs.o has EABI version 5, but target magiclantern has EABI version 0But with elf (which is obsolete since 4.7.3), gcc complains about VFP.

What do you mean by ubuntu toolchain?

EDIT:
And now with linaro's gcc 4.7.4, I get :

Code: [Select]
[ LD       ]   magiclantern
/home/minlite/toolchain/arm-elf/lib/gcc/arm-elf/4.7.4/../../../../arm-elf/bin/ld: cannot find -lm
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [magiclantern] Error 1
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: guillegar on August 18, 2013, 07:28:13 PM
Can someone tell me what the settings for Macboot are?
I installed ML following the instructions and I can see the ML menu but when trying to shot, the default Canon options appear instead.

Even when in the ML Menu I can see the exposure meter overlapping the ML menu options.

Somebody else has the same issue?

Thanks
Guille
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on August 18, 2013, 07:39:04 PM
Can someone tell me what the settings for Macboot are?
I installed ML following the instructions and I can see the ML menu but when trying to shot, the default Canon options appear instead.

Even when in the ML Menu I can see the exposure meter overlapping the ML menu options.

Somebody else has the same issue?

Thanks
Guille

If you see the ML menus, then you have enabled the bootflag right and you have ML running :) As far as I know, you don't have to do anything with Macboot with newer versions of ML. If you just update with the .fir inside your SD card, then it will automatically enable the bootflag.

For the exposure meter, you are in the LiveView probably. It's a bug in the ML. You should hit the info button until the canon menus go and you only see ML stuff. any if you press Trash in that mode, the exposure meter won't overlap the ML menu. :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on August 18, 2013, 07:56:40 PM
With none-eabi (which is supported in newer versions of gcc) I get this error:
Code: [Select]
stubs.o has EABI version 5, but target magiclantern has EABI version 0But with elf (which is obsolete since 4.7.3), gcc complains about VFP.

What do you mean by ubuntu toolchain?

EDIT:
And now with linaro's gcc 4.7.4, I get :

Code: [Select]
[ LD       ]   magiclantern
/home/minlite/toolchain/arm-elf/lib/gcc/arm-elf/4.7.4/../../../../arm-elf/bin/ld: cannot find -lm
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [magiclantern] Error 1

Finally I fixed the error.
I deleted the magic-lantern code and cloned it again to my system. And used the same gcc as in Makefile.user.default file. Suddenly it started building just fine.

I guess maybe some of the last commits have solved my problem. It is still strange to me. The thing I spotted is that, when I couldn't build, the GCC_VERSION constant in the Makefile.user.default file was being set to plain 4.7.3, and I was setting it to any version I used.
But the new file uses a small dash(-) in the beginning. (It is defined as -4.7.3). That's why I'm sure it was the Makefile.user.default causing the problem.

Anyway it is solved now, and I have the autoexec.bin being built :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: guillegar on August 18, 2013, 07:59:43 PM
If you see the ML menus, then you have enabled the bootflag right and you have ML running :) As far as I know, you don't have to do anything with Macboot with newer versions of ML. If you just update with the .fir inside your SD card, then it will automatically enable the bootflag.

For the exposure meter, you are in the LiveView probably. It's a bug in the ML. You should hit the info button until the canon menus go and you only see ML stuff. any if you press Trash in that mode, the exposure meter won't overlap the ML menu. :)

Thanks a lot!!!

:)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 18, 2013, 11:31:09 PM
Hola , raw 1600x524 ( cosa que no podía sin los puntos rosa porque PinkDotRemover no los eliminaba ) ahora con la versión ML_N_17.08.2013 no salen mas los puntos de ningún tipo .  Excelente trabajo ML.

Hello, raw 1600x524 (which I could not because PinkDotRemover pink spots not eliminated) ML_N_17.08.2013 version now do not go over any points. Excellent work ML.

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Ftlz on August 19, 2013, 12:44:47 PM
Hi
Is Dual-ISO enabled on 650d?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on August 19, 2013, 12:55:44 PM
Not yet. If you saw dual_iso module in my last build, so I'm sorry that was my failure. Please, download the last build again, now it's correct.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Ftlz on August 19, 2013, 02:03:29 PM
Quote
Not yet. If you saw dual_iso module in my last build, so I'm sorry that was my failure. Please, download the last build again, now it's correct.

Thanks man. Hope it will be available later.

And maybe a noob question. I've asked a few times before but no answers. I read in ML user guide that there is an ability to trigger the shutter via proximity (IR) sensor above the viewfinder. It will be very useful for many occasions (astrophotography, hdr, etc.). Why nobody mentions it. Is it possible for 650d?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 19, 2013, 02:16:37 PM
I've to fix the stubs but it should work
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 19, 2013, 02:21:20 PM
I read in ML user guide that there is an ability to trigger the shutter via proximity (IR) sensor above the viewfinder.

?
Please quote the part of the section you read and post a link to this section, too!

Quite sure you misunderstood a remark about IR remote triggers. Quite another story ...

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Labyrinth on August 19, 2013, 05:10:24 PM
First of all, big thanks to those working on ML, especially Nanomad for heading the 650D port.

Quite sure you misunderstood a remark about IR remote triggers. Quite another story ...
Ftlz was talking about this: http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/userguide#lcdsensor_remote

I'm also curious about it because I've tried it on my friend's 550D. If it's possible on the 650D then it would be a fantastic feature to have.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 19, 2013, 05:18:42 PM
Thanks! Now I got it!

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Ftlz on August 19, 2013, 05:44:46 PM
Ftlz was talking about this: http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/userguide#lcdsensor_remote

Thanks for mentioning that. Yes it's very useful when you didn't bring a remote for HDR/Astrophotography. Consider it with Intervalometer function. It would be great!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: roterrion on August 19, 2013, 07:33:42 PM
Not yet. If you saw dual_iso module in my last build, so I'm sorry that was my failure. Please, download the last build again, now it's correct.

my heart stopped a sec when i saw that dual iso toggle on my menu. you got me sir!  ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 19, 2013, 07:56:56 PM
LCD Sensor stuff coming to a 650D near you.

Features:
- Use it as a remote
- Use it to show some handy shortcuts (!). Check under misc key settings
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on August 19, 2013, 08:16:07 PM
my heart stopped a sec when i saw that dual iso toggle on my menu. you got me sir!  ;D

I have experimented with dual_iso and forgot to exclude this befor compiling ;D
This is not ready yet, but that will come ;)

Hey nanomad, you are really fast  :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 19, 2013, 08:24:50 PM
- Use it to show some handy shortcuts (!).

A gestural interface ... Oh, my!
I'm tempted to ask if the camera's touchscreen and this sensor will work together for some really weird stuff and orthopedic surgeons delight.

Ciao, Walter

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 19, 2013, 08:48:23 PM
I have experimented with dual_iso and forgot to exclude this befor compiling ;D
But in this build you uploaded was no possibility to try it, right?
It was possible to load the module, but there was no new menu point, right?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dimadan on August 19, 2013, 08:53:28 PM
Hello!

I tried the ML from 18/08 and 19/08, but the red dots in raw video does not disappear.
Tests at different resolutions, tried different converters - raw2dng, rawanizer
What I doing wrong?

Thank you!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: magcharlie on August 19, 2013, 09:09:34 PM
Hello,

I encountered a problem in Movie crop mode. The bottom 6 lines in the recording show rubish.


Thanks

Anyone else who noticed this problem? Maybe it has to do with those 1088 lines where in movie crop mode the last 8 lines are filled with rubish. It shows in Microsoft Media Player and in CyberLink PowerDirector which I am using.

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 19, 2013, 09:25:20 PM
I tried the ML from 18/08 and 19/08, but the red dots in raw video does not disappear.
They are always there.
And they was never gone.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on August 19, 2013, 10:15:09 PM
But in this build you uploaded was no possibility to try it, right?
It was possible to load the module, but there was no new menu point, right?

There was a menu option, but the function was invalid, because adjustments are still required.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 19, 2013, 10:34:33 PM
Hola , utilice la versión ML_N_19.08.2013 también ML_N_18.08.2013 y me generan puntos rosa o verde . Solo usando 650D_104.sym y autoexec.bin de otra tarjeta vieja de una versión anterior ML no me genera puntos . Si a alguno le interesa la comparto .

 
Hi, use version and I ML_N_19.08.2013 ML_N_18.08.2013 also generate pink or green dots. Just using autoexec.bin 650D_104.sym and other old card from a previous version ML does not generate points. If anyone is interested to share it.


(https://www.dropbox.com/s/gdor4fzyielsa16/ML_N_19.08.2013%20.TIF)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ccodw2ukuedrpw/sindots%20.TIF (https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ccodw2ukuedrpw/sindots%20.TIF)

Saludos , Gerardo
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 19, 2013, 10:40:18 PM
Hola , utilice la versión ML_N_19.08.2013 también ML_N_18.08.2013 y me generan puntos rosa o verde . Solo usando 650D_104.sym y autoexec.bin de otra tarjeta vieja de una versión anterior ML no me genera puntos . Si a alguno le interesa la comparto .

 
Hi, use version and I ML_N_19.08.2013 ML_N_18.08.2013 also generate pink or green dots. Just using autoexec.bin 650D_104.sym and other old card from a previous version ML does not generate points. If anyone is interested to share it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gdor4fzyielsa16/ML_N_19.08.2013%20.TIF (https://www.dropbox.com/s/gdor4fzyielsa16/ML_N_19.08.2013%20.TIF)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ccodw2ukuedrpw/sindots%20.TIF (https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ccodw2ukuedrpw/sindots%20.TIF)

Saludos , Gerardo
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 19, 2013, 10:49:26 PM
Just using autoexec.bin 650D_104.sym and other old card from a previous version ML does not generate points. If anyone is interested to share it.
You still get dots.
But ACR filters them out of the picture and the filter quality is very, very bad.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 19, 2013, 11:29:08 PM
Hola spider , las dos fotos son de dos tomas diferentes con diferentes 650D_104.sym y autoexec.bin, una sale con puntos y la otra sale sin puntos en cuanto al ACR lo único que hice fue salvar en tiff y no le aplique ningún filtro a ninguna de las dos fotos . Las achique para que no acupe mucho lugar en dropbox , si le haces un zoom se ven los puntos en una y en la otra no.

Y de paso .. que quedo muy linda la web .. queda como mas prolija .

Hi spider, the two photos are of two different shots with different 650D_104.sym and autoexec.bin, one goes with the other points and no points out regarding the ACR all I did was save in tiff and do not apply any filters to neither pictures. The bilge Acupe not much room in dropbox, if you zoom in you can see the points in one and not the other.

And by the way .. I fit the web very cute .. is as more verbose.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on August 20, 2013, 12:26:03 AM
Anyone else who noticed this problem? Maybe it has to do with those 1088 lines where in movie crop mode the last 8 lines are filled with rubish. It shows in Microsoft Media Player and in CyberLink PowerDirector which I am using.

Thanks

You're right. At least I can confirm that.
As always, wait for the solution :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 20, 2013, 02:49:26 AM
Confused again as I thought the dot problem was gone
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on August 20, 2013, 04:04:50 AM
Agree with dave, what's this about the dots coming back again?



I thought this was solved by an additional step/app in post (linked somewhere in this thread) and in addition to that I thought I heard an upcoming release of ML on the 650D would eliminate the dots without having to remove them in post?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 20, 2013, 05:45:02 AM
Hola ,de eso mismo hablo ... el raw ya no sale mas con puntos ni rosa ni verde . Genera dng limpios . Lo que realmente quiero decir es que anda perfecto por lo menos para mis necesidades y que si les sirve el archivo 650D_104.sym a alguien, lo comparto , si es que no hay problema.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dimadan on August 20, 2013, 07:52:17 AM
Tongotongo! Share please a working 650D_104.sym. Very thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 20, 2013, 08:43:02 AM
Tongotongo! Share please a working 650D_104.sym. Very thanks!
Its not working it will give you a picture full of green dots.  :o
ACR recognize them as artefacts and filters them, but the filter is bad and not everybody is using ACR.
Also the green dots are much bigger so you lose much more resolution.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dimadan on August 20, 2013, 09:42:22 AM
Thanks for explanation!
And what is then the solution? Wait for the new version of ML?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 20, 2013, 10:05:38 AM
PinkDotRemover
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Ftlz on August 20, 2013, 10:14:22 AM
Quote
LCD Sensor stuff coming to a 650D near you.

Features:
- Use it as a remote
- Use it to show some handy shortcuts (!). Check under misc key settings

Thank you so much Nanomad. You're the man!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on August 20, 2013, 01:20:48 PM
The new build is online (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/demgitqk7a6ixsv/fK94ZTlKZy/ML_N_20.08.2013.zip), enjoy the LCDsensor Remote  ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dalanz on August 20, 2013, 01:56:42 PM
The new build is online (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/demgitqk7a6ixsv/fK94ZTlKZy/ML_N_20.08.2013.zip), enjoy the LCDsensor Remote  ;)

Thanks @Satriani
When will Auto ExpoRamp be available? I want to make Timelapses of sunsets and sunrises :-)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Ftlz on August 20, 2013, 02:15:05 PM
The new build is online (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/demgitqk7a6ixsv/fK94ZTlKZy/ML_N_20.08.2013.zip), enjoy the LCDsensor Remote  ;)

Hooray! Thank you so much.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 20, 2013, 02:24:02 PM
Thanks @Satriani
When will Auto ExpoRamp be available? I want to make Timelapses of sunsets and sunrises :-)

There's no more auto expo ramp that I know of. Use Intervalometer + ETTR + post deflicker scripts
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Ftlz on August 20, 2013, 02:24:53 PM
Well, I've upgraded but I cant see any options for LCD sensor. How can I enable it?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on August 20, 2013, 02:34:57 PM
не работает зум, при нажатии + не приближает как раньше, не х10, не х5, не работают .
Zoom does not work when you press+ not advance like before, not x10, not x5, do not work.
Maybe, you mean
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on August 20, 2013, 02:38:16 PM
Well, I've upgraded but I cant see any options for LCD sensor. How can I enable it?

(http://s14.directupload.net/images/130820/r928d8a8.bmp)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Ftlz on August 20, 2013, 02:52:40 PM
Sorry. Just I didn't update the autoexec. My fault. Works perfect;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on August 20, 2013, 03:21:12 PM
Guys please, befor posting your issue
1. Remove autoexec.bin and ML folder from your SD and extract new build again to SD. Then test again.
2. If issue is not with ML, then start your cam without ML by press and holding SET while start the cam or better with other SD without ML. Test again.
And always tell which build you use!

не работает зум, при нажатии + не приближает как раньше, не х10, не х5, не работают .
Zoom does not work when you press+ not advance like before, not x10, not x5, do not work.
Maybe, you mean

У меня зум работает отлично. Попробуйте без ML.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dalanz on August 20, 2013, 03:40:48 PM
There's no more auto expo ramp that I know of. Use Intervalometer + ETTR + post deflicker scripts

All right!! Thank you very much!!
I didn't have those features because I didn't copy the autoexec file. I wasn't able to load the modules, but I got it!!
What parameters do you recommend of ETTR and Post deflicker for sunsets and sunrises?
Regards,
Daniel
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Jockerl on August 20, 2013, 04:06:36 PM
What parameters do you recommend of ETTR and Post deflicker for sunsets and sunrises?
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5705.0
I would set the Intervalometer at "slowest shutter Speed" from ETTR + at least 8 secounds. I tried it with 5 secounds like recommended in the tutorial but that caused a lock up from my camera, so please be aware of that you need a bigger time between shots.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 20, 2013, 04:48:10 PM
Tongotongo! Share please a working 650D_104.sym. Very thanks!

Este es el único que me funciona sin puntos y en todas las resoluciones . Proba y fíjate que anda perfecto. Saludos .

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tu8tgpbady8oyqp/ML.rar (https://www.dropbox.com/s/tu8tgpbady8oyqp/ML.rar)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on August 20, 2013, 04:52:52 PM
Guys please, befor posting your issue
1. Remove autoexec.bin and ML folder from your SD and extract new build again to SD. Then test again.
2. If issue is not with ML, then start your cam without ML by press and holding SET while start the cam or better with other SD without ML. Test again.
And always tell which build you use!

У меня зум работает отлично. Попробуйте без ML.
так понятно, без мл он работает и на на сборке от 18 числа он работает, а с новой сборкой от 19 не работает
so it is clear, without ml and it works on the assembly of the 18th it works, but with the new build of 19 is not working
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: anario on August 20, 2013, 05:42:04 PM
Thank you guys for all the hard work. ML is a very useful tool!!! I just have 2 questions that I have not been able to figure out.

1) Is Auto Burst Pic Quality going to be available for 650D?

2) I have 18-135 STM lens and I cannot seem to be able to move the focus with follow focus. I cant use rack focus or stack focus. The camera's focus point just does not seem to move. Is this a lens issue? I am using 12.08.2013.

Thanks

Anario
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on August 20, 2013, 06:57:41 PM
Okay guys, maybe I'm missing something, but I'm still not clear on the whole "green dots" issue.

Now I know that the Pink Dot Remover clears up the pink dot issue, but some folks here have been rather confusedly talking about green dots lately.

Maybe a contributor to this thread made the video below. It looks awesome, but it does have GREEN DOTS. They're difficult to see, but if you go to the 22 second mark, and expand to full screen, and look just to the left of the plant in focus, you'll see a vertical band of these green dots.




So what's the scoop on the green dots? Has it been fixed in a new build? Still an issue? I can't seem to find a straight answer.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 20, 2013, 07:20:44 PM
Green dots have been removed, worry not. You still have to remove the pink ones
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 20, 2013, 08:25:48 PM
Maybe a contributor to this thread made the video below. It looks awesome, but it does have GREEN DOTS. They're difficult to see, but if you go to the 22 second mark, and expand to full screen, and look just to the left of the plant in focus, you'll see a vertical band of these green dots.
These are the pink dots, but the compression made them green.
Also have a look at the release date and the link in the video description; you can see it is made with a very old version of the PinkDotRemover which removed only the big dots in the middle.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on August 20, 2013, 08:37:38 PM
nanomad and spider, BIG THANKS for clarifying that! I was getting really confused by the sudden onslaught of comments concerning something that I thought (now confirmed) is a resolved issue.


Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 20, 2013, 09:23:49 PM
Bug:

In movie mode cropmarks will vanish if main dial is used. Have to half-press shutter button once or several times and cropmarks will be there again.

- Global Draw: On, all modes and Liveview
- Cropmarks: Doesn't matter which one.
- satriani's most recent build (20.Aug.2013). EDIT: Seen this before in older builds.

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Stevenbaril on August 20, 2013, 09:41:34 PM
Satriani, Did you say that Dual ISO had been added to your latest build?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 20, 2013, 09:51:47 PM
These are the pink dots, but the compression made them green.
Also have a look at the release date and the link in the video description; you can see it is made with a very old version of the PinkDotRemover which removed only the big dots in the middle.

Say, I was wondering if someone could point me in the direction of how to use the PinkDotRemover.  Thanks in advance.

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on August 20, 2013, 09:54:59 PM
Satriani, Did you say that Dual ISO had been added to your latest build?

just check the change log on his drop box ~_~ at the moment its still being worked on.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 20, 2013, 09:55:46 PM
@Stevenbaril:
He said the very opposite. It has been removed from his build.
Unzip the file and go to the modules directory. There you will not see this module.
Therefore he requested to delete ML folder on the card and then copy the folder to the card. Copying without prior deleting the folder will keep the old (and invalid) Dual ISO module file.

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 20, 2013, 10:06:09 PM
Say, I was wondering if someone could point me in the direction of how to use the PinkDotRemover.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.0
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Stevenbaril on August 20, 2013, 10:14:24 PM
Quote
He said the very opposite. It has been removed from his build.
Unzip the file and go to the modules directory. There you will not see this module.
Therefore he requested to delete ML folder on the card and then copy the folder to the card. Copying without prior deleting the folder will keep the old (and invalid) Dual ISO module file.

Thanks Walter, I misunderstood what he had said. I am REALLY looking forward to Dual ISO!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: landwomble on August 20, 2013, 10:36:47 PM
Hi All,
I'm on the previous alpha that predates 1.0.4.  What's the upgrade path, same as a clean install, or do I need to remove the previous version of ML?
Probably being overcautious but would appreciate some tips!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on August 20, 2013, 10:40:56 PM
Hi All,
I'm on the previous alpha that predates 1.0.4.  What's the upgrade path, same as a clean install, or do I need to remove the previous version of ML?
Probably being overcautious but would appreciate some tips!

Did you even bother to read the first post of this thread? I ask only because all the steps even updating your firmware to 1.0.4 is right there in the very first post of this thread.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: landwomble on August 20, 2013, 10:44:17 PM
Nice edit with the "bother" bit.

Yes.  The first post says upgrade to 1.0.4 and then run the installer instructions.  Not clear to me if already being on ML on previous firmware is likely to cause a problem.  Hence me asking.  If what you're saying is that regardless of current state I should just follow those instructions, then that's great. 
I was looking for confirmation.
If that is the case, it would surely have been quicker and more helpful of you to post something along the lines of "just follow the instructions, they apply to upgrades as well as new installs".

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on August 20, 2013, 10:47:52 PM
just follow the instructions, they apply to upgrades as well as new installs
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: landwomble on August 20, 2013, 10:49:28 PM
Thanks mate.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on August 20, 2013, 10:51:39 PM
Nice edit with the "bother" bit.

Yes.  The first post says upgrade to 1.0.4 and then run the installer instructions.  Not clear to me if already being on ML on previous firmware is likely to cause a problem.  Hence me asking.  If what you're saying is that regardless of current state I should just follow those instructions, then that's great. 
I was looking for confirmation.
If that is the case, it would surely have been quicker and more helpful of you to post something along the lines of "just follow the instructions, they apply to upgrades as well as new installs".

Lol looking for confirmation? we are over 10 pages into this thread, if that didnt work it would have been edited by now. ~_~
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 20, 2013, 10:52:54 PM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.0

Thank you!  I knew about this but I thought there was something different.  Sorry to bother.

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 20, 2013, 11:21:38 PM
Hi all,

Well installed ML, using a 64 gig card.  All ok but when I start the raw video I get "early stop, a number (it changes), then this is a bug, report it."

Any help would be appreciated.

dave

update.  maybe it is my card 64 gig 10 30mb/s  I think it needs to be faster right?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 20, 2013, 11:39:04 PM
Which resolution and frame rate do you use?
Try a lower resolution.

But if the card is to slow it will just stop recording.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 20, 2013, 11:41:45 PM
Which resolution and frame rate do you use?
Try a lower resolution.

But if the card is to slow it will just stop recording.

I am still messing but 24 and 1080/760

What card do you use.  would this work: SanDisk Extreme Pro 64 GB SDXC Class 10 UHS-1 Flash Memory Card 95MB/s SDSDXPA-064G-AFFP

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 20, 2013, 11:44:29 PM
Hi all,

Well installed ML, using a 64 gig card.  All ok but when I start the raw video I get "early stop, a number (it changes), then this is a bug, report it."

Any help would be appreciated.

dave

update.  maybe it is my card 64 gig 10 30mb/s  I think it needs to be faster right?


Hola, depende de la resolución que desees usar fíjate que cambia de color debajo a la izquierda en verde seria lo que tu tarjeta mejor maneja en amarillo indica que graba poco se corta etc. Saludos.

Hi, depends on the resolution you want to use color-changing look under green left on your card would be the best handles in yellow indicates that records etc little short. Greetings.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 20, 2013, 11:46:11 PM
I am still messing but 24 and 1080/760

What card do you use.  would this work: SanDisk Extreme Pro 64 GB SDXC Class 10 UHS-1 Flash Memory Card 95MB/s SDSDXPA-064G-AFFP

dave

En esas resoluciones no graba ni loco . Baja bastante y veras.

These resolutions do not record or crazy. Low enough and see.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 20, 2013, 11:50:47 PM

Hola, depende de la resolución que desees usar fíjate que cambia de color debajo a la izquierda en verde seria lo que tu tarjeta mejor maneja en amarillo indica que graba poco se corta etc. Saludos.

Hi, depends on the resolution you want to use color-changing look under green left on your card would be the best handles in yellow indicates that records etc little short. Greetings.

I apologize but I do not quite understand the color idea.  I know some people get annoyed with new guys asking what might be silly questions that have been answered elsewhere.  If so I would be glad to read or is this in the "manual?"

Anyway also thoughts on types of cards would help.

Thanks for your help.
dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 20, 2013, 11:52:29 PM
En esas resoluciones no graba ni loco . Baja bastante y veras.

These resolutions do not record or crazy. Low enough and see.

I have read the 24 and 1080/760 is the preferred I thought.

d
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Labyrinth on August 20, 2013, 11:55:13 PM
Wow, Nanomad is the gift that keeps on giving! Thanks also to satriani for the builds!

Yes it's very useful when you didn't bring a remote for HDR/Astrophotography. Consider it with Intervalometer function. It would be great!
It's definitely great for HDR and astro work but I think it's still extremely useful even if you do have a remote. I can never be bothered to take my cable release out of my bag and I find it gets in the way especially when I'm adjusting my tripod or swapping filters between shots.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 21, 2013, 12:02:16 AM
I have read the 24 and 1080/760 is the preferred I thought.

d

En mi caso lo mejor que logre a 24fps 1600x900 graba bien continuo y 1728x736 graba mejor pero poco tiempo. Proba a ver si logras algo mejor. Saludos

PD: no uso mas el traductor ..escribe cualquier cosa jajaja.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 21, 2013, 12:28:54 AM
En mi caso lo mejor que logre a 24fps 1600x900 graba bien continuo y 1728x736 graba mejor pero poco tiempo. Proba a ver si logras algo mejor. Saludos

PD: no uso mas el traductor ..escribe cualquier cosa jajaja.
Thanks and no problem.  What card do you use.?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 21, 2013, 12:55:43 AM
What card do you use.  would this work: SanDisk Extreme Pro 64 GB SDXC Class 10 UHS-1 Flash Memory Card 95MB/s SDSDXPA-064G-AFFP

Sandisk extreme 45mb/s
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 21, 2013, 01:04:36 AM
Thanks and no problem.  What card do you use.?

Una de 8G 90mbs y otra de 16G 40mbs , al parecer esta limitado por la cámara la velocidad de escritura a 45mbs asi que por mas tarjeta que le pongas con mas velocidad, de eso no pasa. Igual graba muy lindo y los colores me parecen fantásticos teniendo en cuenta que no es una cámara buenísima para grabar en raw ..todo lo maneja la plata.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 21, 2013, 01:19:17 AM
Una de 8G 90mbs y otra de 16G 40mbs , al parecer esta limitado por la cámara la velocidad de escritura a 45mbs asi que por mas tarjeta que le pongas con mas velocidad, de eso no pasa. Igual graba muy lindo y los colores me parecen fantásticos teniendo en cuenta que no es una cámara buenísima para grabar en raw ..todo lo maneja la plata.

hmm this is a bummer
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Stevenbaril on August 21, 2013, 02:03:35 AM
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I apologize but I do not quite understand the color idea.  I know some people get annoyed with new guys asking what might be silly questions that have been answered elsewhere.  If so I would be glad to read or is this in the "manual?"


(https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=8d1b8d00c8&view=att&th=1409e23d9f1c0e41&attid=0.1&disp=thd&realattid=1443933919201198080-local0&zw)

He's referring to the text at the bottom of the screen.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 21, 2013, 02:04:54 AM

(https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=8d1b8d00c8&view=att&th=1409e23d9f1c0e41&attid=0.1&disp=thd&realattid=1443933919201198080-local0&zw)

He's referring to the text at the bottom of the screen.
Ok thanks will look
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 21, 2013, 02:26:30 AM
Ok thanks will look

Te molesto , me podes decir si con la ultima versión ML_N_20.08.2013 se te fueron los puntos rosa?. En mi caso solo una anduvo bien y fue una mescla de ellas. Solo para saber si no estoy loco. En cuanto al lo amarrilo o verde es tal cual te dijo Stevenbaril. Saludos.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 21, 2013, 03:00:21 AM
Te molesto , me podes decir si con la ultima versión ML_N_20.08.2013 se te fueron los puntos rosa?. En mi caso solo una anduvo bien y fue una mescla de ellas. Solo para saber si no estoy loco. En cuanto al lo amarrilo o verde es tal cual te dijo Stevenbaril. Saludos.

so I can not play yet as my card might not allow the videos.  Need a faster card, but back at you when I have one :).

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on August 21, 2013, 03:26:24 AM
Actually, papkee said that a 45 mb/s card SHOULD be able to record video at 1472x616, which is pretty good all things considered.

From my limited understanding, and I very well could be wrong, I thought that using a 90 mb/s card on the 650D is overkill because the 650D's SD slot can only go so far.

Again, and this is what I've gathered, and I could be wrong again, but it seems like the 650D will most likely never be able to record full 1080p with RAW.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: COMMANDES on August 21, 2013, 04:05:14 AM
***
Again, and this is what I've gathered, and I could be wrong again, but it seems like the 650D will most likely never be able to record full 1080p with RAW.
А зачем нам 1080p ?  :)
Многие всё равно обрезают поля до киношного 2.35. Так что мне бы хватило 1920*818.
Хотя всё-таки жаль что заблокированы другие разрешения для RAW, они бы пригодились для таймлапсов.
Google:
Why do we need 1080p?
Many still cut the field to the cine 2.35. So to me be had enough resolution 1920 * 818. Although still a pity that blocked other sizes for RAW, I would have them handy for timelapse.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 2iggy on August 21, 2013, 04:09:24 AM
Hello everyone...I just instaled ML on my t4i (Was so simple by the way,instalation and latest build replacement)...this is my first ML ever,so i need to read User manual hahah but for now it works great...tomorow i will test it :D Much thanks for developers.you people are doing amazing job...keep up with good work!


Holla from Serbia
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on August 21, 2013, 04:37:16 AM
А зачем нам 1080p ?  :)
Многие всё равно обрезают поля до киношного 2.35. Так что мне бы хватило 1920*818.
Хотя всё-таки жаль что заблокированы другие разрешения для RAW, они бы пригодились для таймлапсов.
Google:
Why do we need 1080p?
Many still cut the field to the cine 2.35. So to me be had enough resolution 1920 * 818. Although still a pity that blocked other sizes for RAW, I would have them handy for timelapse.

I agree with the first part, though I don't even know if we can get 1600 with the 650D continuously at 24fps. Or can we?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 21, 2013, 05:05:19 AM
I agree with the first part, though I don't even know if we can get 1600 with the 650D continuously at 24fps. Or can we?

Perdon por escribir en castellano pero el traductor me cambia el sentido de las oraciones.

Si que podes grabar a 1600 pero x 600 no mas, a partir de ahí es en trozos.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: elmatambre on August 21, 2013, 05:09:39 AM
Hello i read this Forum every week And i work in my camera the ML work very well. But now i have a problem in this week, I could not use the magic lantern on a card that I had stored there. is an extreme pro 16gb san disk in write speed 45MB (says on the card). Now in the 1.0.1 firmware version could use but since the software update of the camera, I could not use it again since that card. I have another Transcend 16 GB Class 10 that still works on camera with ML. Can this be so? Am I right or possibly make a mistake. I have two nights after returning from work trying to fix so I ask here in the forum..
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 21, 2013, 08:34:49 AM
Follow the instructions on page 1 of this thread. Don't forget to download satriani's most recent build and copy it to your card.

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 21, 2013, 09:22:55 AM
TheUnkn0wn is working on a special RAW2DNG for 650D/700D which generates files without dots.
Because the green dots are not made in the camera, they are made in raw2dng.

 http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.150
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on August 21, 2013, 10:03:01 AM
Nice solution, but sadly we treat symptoms and not the cause :-/
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on August 21, 2013, 04:11:03 PM
Hello i read this Forum every week And i work in my camera the ML work very well. But now i have a problem in this week, I could not use the magic lantern on a card that I had stored there. is an extreme pro 16gb san disk in write speed 45MB (says on the card). Now in the 1.0.1 firmware version could use but since the software update of the camera, I could not use it again since that card. I have another Transcend 16 GB Class 10 that still works on camera with ML. Can this be so? Am I right or possibly make a mistake. I have two nights after returning from work trying to fix so I ask here in the forum..
Be sure to delete the previous ML install (ML directory & autoexec) off the card before putting the new one on.  Make sure your 16GB 64MB/s card works in something else as well.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 21, 2013, 05:31:49 PM
Actually, papkee said that a 45 mb/s card SHOULD be able to record video at 1472x616, which is pretty good all things considered.

From my limited understanding, and I very well could be wrong, I thought that using a 90 mb/s card on the 650D is overkill because the 650D's SD slot can only go so far.

Again, and this is what I've gathered, and I could be wrong again, but it seems like the 650D will most likely never be able to record full 1080p with RAW.

thanks so my 30ish card probably needs to be replaced.  I did read somewhere the make write speed for the t4i but can not remember where I say this.

update sorry make = maximum
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 21, 2013, 06:21:23 PM
Sandisk extreme 45mb/s

If I could be a bit nosey, what resolution do you use and how long a clip can you get.  I want to order a new card to day to get it tomorrow and not sure if I should do this or the over kill 90 mb/s.

Thanks in advance,

dave

update I see that I can also get a 60 mb/s also
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 21, 2013, 06:57:00 PM
If I could be a bit nosey, what resolution do you use and how long a clip can you get.
720p24 continuously.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 21, 2013, 07:07:07 PM
720p24 continuously.

Perfect thanks a lot :) guess the 90 and 95 is over kill right ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on August 21, 2013, 07:07:52 PM
Spider, are you saying you're getting 1280x720 on a 45 mb/s card with ML? If so, that is fantastic news! I'm hoping soon during my vacation that I can install Magic Lantern on the T4i/fiddle with it, and do a video test I've been requesting from other people (hahaha).

If the t4i/650D can record continuously at 1280x720, as opposed to 1472x616, that would help greatly in my quest.

I'm hoping to film a comparison between:

 The Canon H.264 firmware on the 650D at 1080p
ML at the highest resolution that it can support continuously.


And in this test, do a couple different comparisons:

The 1080p Canon footage vs the ML footage at 720p

The 1080p Canon footage vs expanded ML footage to close to 1080p dimensions.

And that way determine whether the RAW video on the 650D is worth the additional time spent on the workflow.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: _DK_ on August 21, 2013, 07:28:15 PM
Spider, are you saying you're getting 1280x720 on a 45 mb/s card with ML? If so, that is fantastic news! I'm hoping soon during my vacation that I can install Magic Lantern on the T4i/fiddle with it, and do a video test I've been requesting from other people (hahaha).

I'm not spider, but I ca confirm that you get continuous 1280x720 on a decent 45 mb/s card. I use Sandisk Extreme cards.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 21, 2013, 08:18:06 PM
Spider, are you saying you're getting 1280x720 on a 45 mb/s card with ML? If so, that is fantastic news! I'm hoping soon during my vacation that I can install Magic Lantern on the T4i/fiddle with it, and do a video test I've been requesting from other people (hahaha).

If the t4i/650D can record continuously at 1280x720, as opposed to 1472x616, that would help greatly in my quest.

I'm hoping to film a comparison between:

 The Canon H.264 firmware on the 650D at 1080p
ML at the highest resolution that it can support continuously.


And in this test, do a couple different comparisons:

The 1080p Canon footage vs the ML footage at 720p

The 1080p Canon footage vs expanded ML footage to close to 1080p dimensions.

And that way determine whether the RAW video on the 650D is worth the additional time spent on the workflow.

Benlen,

Great plan!  I am going to play this weekend.  Just ordered the 45 mb/s card Sanddisk Extreme. 

What do you mean expanded ML footage to close to 1080p?  In addition to the extra workflow there is the data issue.  Even short clips take a lot of space to process.  So I would assume filming long clips say minutes would be daunting.  But will find out :)

I am going to use Quicktime Pro to recompile and play with PS6 and LR5 for post processing.  Hopefully the new RAW2DNG will be available soon
d
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on August 21, 2013, 09:52:57 PM
I'm not spider, but I ca confirm that you get continuous 1280x720 on a decent 45 mb/s card. I use Sandisk Extreme cards.


Really? Fantastic, I have a Sandisk Extreme 45 mb/s card!


Benlen,

Great plan!  I am going to play this weekend.  Just ordered the 45 mb/s card Sanddisk Extreme. 

What do you mean expanded ML footage to close to 1080p?  In addition to the extra workflow there is the data issue.  Even short clips take a lot of space to process.  So I would assume filming long clips say minutes would be daunting.  But will find out :)


What I mean david is this: Shooting a 1920x1080p clip with the Canon firmware, then shooting with ML Raw at 720p and in post (After Effects/Premiere) expanding the 720p RAW footage to 1080, or at the very least, slightly larger than 1280x720.

The reasoning is this: there have been many claims from some guys on Youtube shooting with the 650D who are shooting RAW at 720 or less than 720, blowing their footage up in post to 1080, and claiming that because the RAW footage contains so much more data, that even blown up it looks better than the Canon firmware 1080p.

I'm not completely convinced of this until I try it with my own workflow and compare.

I am, of course, intrigued by the possibility! I'm a video student with a limited budget, and at this time can't afford to either upgrade to the Panasonic GH3 or the Canon 5D Mark III (two cameras I really want to get my hands on!)

So I'm looking for any way to increase the sharpness and professionalism of the footage coming out of the 650D.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 21, 2013, 10:26:18 PM

Really? Fantastic, I have a Sandisk Extreme 45 mb/s card!



What I mean david is this: Shooting a 1920x1080p clip with the Canon firmware, then shooting with ML Raw at 720p and in post (After Effects/Premiere) expanding the 720p RAW footage to 1080, or at the very least, slightly larger than 1280x720.

The reasoning is this: there have been many claims from some guys on Youtube shooting with the 650D who are shooting RAW at 720 or less than 720, blowing their footage up in post to 1080, and claiming that because the RAW footage contains so much more data, that even blown up it looks better than the Canon firmware 1080p.

I'm not completely convinced of this until I try it with my own workflow and compare.

I am, of course, intrigued by the possibility! I'm a video student with a limited budget, and at this time can't afford to either upgrade to the Panasonic GH3 or the Canon 5D Mark III (two cameras I really want to get my hands on!)

So I'm looking for any way to increase the sharpness and professionalism of the footage coming out of the 650D.

will interesting to see what you find.  Don'e have After Effects/Premiere myself to play with.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on August 21, 2013, 10:28:56 PM
It doesn't require After Effects to do, just a NLE (Premiere, Final Cut, Avid, Vegas, etc) that you can expand/shrink your footage with. I just find it easier to get most stuff done in AE.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 21, 2013, 10:37:19 PM
DK and Spider or anyone <-- update

A silly question.  How do you set the resolution to 720p.  That is not a choice in the raw resolution setting.  What am I missing?

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 21, 2013, 10:37:56 PM
It doesn't require After Effects to do, just a NLE (Premiere, Final Cut, Avid, Vegas, etc) that you can expand/shrink your footage with. I just find it easier to get most stuff done in AE.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Ftlz on August 21, 2013, 10:59:13 PM
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A silly question.  How do you set the resolution to 720p.  That is not a choice in the raw resolution setting.  What am I missing?

When you execute the raw video recording script from the scripts tab a raw option is automatically added in video tab. you can change width and aspect ratio (it changes height).
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 21, 2013, 11:01:49 PM
A silly question.  How do you set the resolution to 720p.  That is not a choice in the raw resolution setting.  What am I missing?

Resolution: 1280
Aspect ratio: 16:9
-> (1280/16) * 9 = 720

Vertical pixel number is determined via Aspect Ratio and horizontal pixel number.

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 21, 2013, 11:17:44 PM
Resolution: 1280
Aspect ratio: 16:9
-> (1280/16) * 9 = 720

Vertical pixel number is determined via Aspect Ratio and horizontal pixel number.

Ciao
Walter

Walter,

mine says 1280 x 514; seems like none of them have the right ratio setting.  < -- update

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on August 21, 2013, 11:25:48 PM
Hey nanomad and other developers!
I have a idea for a new feature. Can't we have USB mounting functionality? I mean to be able to access the SD through the usb cable. :) I know ML loads from SD but if we able to achieve that, it will be a great help to people who do not have a reader handy!

I actually can try to implement the feature (I am an embedded C developer), but the thing is I'm not familiar with the ML code and don't know if it's possible or not (Because the thing I said in above.).

The question is when ML loads, does it need SD card to continue operating or it has just been already copied in the memory?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 21, 2013, 11:33:19 PM
Walter,

mine says 1280 x 514; seems like none of them have the right ratio setting.  < -- update

dave

right now I can shoot at 640 because of my card.  With the aspect ratio set to 16:9 I should have 640/360.  But what I get is 640/258.

This is the same as the 1280 instead of 1280/720 I get 514

1280/514 = 2.49
640/258  = 2.48

so my processed images (for the 640 right now) are elongated.

I would appreciate any ideas on this to help.

Thanks

dave

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 21, 2013, 11:34:39 PM
Hey nanomad and other developers!
I have a idea for a new feature. Can't we have USB mounting functionality? I mean to be able to access the SD through the usb cable. :) I know ML loads from SD but if we able to achieve that, it will be a great help to people who do not have a reader handy!

I actually can try to implement the feature (I am an embedded C developer), but the thing is I'm not familiar with the ML code and don't know if it's possible or not (Because the thing I said in above.).

The question is when ML loads, does it need SD card to continue operating or it has just been already copied in the memory?

The binary is relocated in memory at boot, but we need to read config and such from the SD card. Also, canon needs the SD to save photos..
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on August 22, 2013, 12:06:26 AM
The binary is relocated in memory at boot, but we need to read config and such from the SD card. Also, canon needs the SD to save photos..
I know that, but we can just stop that functionality for a while, mount the sd to the usb, let the use transfer photos and what he wants to do and then we can remount it on camera and continue the operation. Just like the approach that Android takes.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 22, 2013, 01:17:35 AM
right now I can shoot at 640 because of my card.  With the aspect ratio set to 16:9 I should have 640/360.  But what I get is 640/258.

This is the same as the 1280 instead of 1280/720 I get 514

1280/514 = 2.49
640/258  = 2.48

so my processed images (for the 640 right now) are elongated.

I would appreciate any ideas on this to help.

Thanks

dave

all, little help here (baseball talk :))

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 22, 2013, 02:25:49 AM
all, little help here (baseball talk :))

dave

While hopefully someone can help with the aspect ratio, I did process this this way. raw2dng, into PS6, dots, did stuff, used QT to reassemble, no dots :).

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mkay on August 22, 2013, 05:51:06 AM
Hey nanomad and other developers!
I have a idea for a new feature. Can't we have USB mounting functionality? I mean to be able to access the SD through the usb cable. :) I know ML loads from SD but if we able to achieve that, it will be a great help to people who do not have a reader handy!

I actually can try to implement the feature (I am an embedded C developer), but the thing is I'm not familiar with the ML code and don't know if it's possible or not (Because the thing I said in above.).

The question is when ML loads, does it need SD card to continue operating or it has just been already copied in the memory?
What's the benefit?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 33black on August 22, 2013, 06:47:08 AM
To dump stuff straight from USB as opposed to pulling the card out and having a card reader.


--

ALSO: Just checking back in a few weeks later.  Sound still not working with FPS override?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on August 22, 2013, 07:23:42 AM
Hey nanomad and other developers!
I have a idea for a new feature. Can't we have USB mounting functionality? I mean to be able to access the SD through the usb cable. :) I know ML loads from SD but if we able to achieve that, it will be a great help to people who do not have a reader handy!

I actually can try to implement the feature (I am an embedded C developer), but the thing is I'm not familiar with the ML code and don't know if it's possible or not (Because the thing I said in above.).

The question is when ML loads, does it need SD card to continue operating or it has just been already copied in the memory?

Could you explain to me how this is different from just hooking up your camera now to your PC and browsing the folders on the SD card through the computer?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 22, 2013, 09:30:41 AM
right now I can shoot at 640 because of my card.  With the aspect ratio set to 16:9 I should have 640/360.  But what I get is 640/258.
Is the Canon resolution set to 1080p?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 22, 2013, 09:40:30 AM
I would appreciate any ideas on this to help.

I don't know what's the cause.
Maybe it worth trying: Rename MAGIC.CFG on your card, then turn camera off and on.
What are the results?

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on August 22, 2013, 01:22:25 PM
Image review
• CanonMenu:Hold?PLAY: if you set ImageReview:Hold in Canon menu, it will go to
PLAY mode instead. This allows you to zoom in as soon as you take the picture (without
having to press PLAY). Credits goto Ken Rockwell for hint (“You have to hit PLAY”).

Does not work on the Canon 650D
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 22, 2013, 02:54:58 PM
Is the Canon resolution set to 1080p?

Spider,

Yes it is.

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 22, 2013, 02:55:51 PM
I don't know what's the cause.
Maybe it worth trying: Rename MAGIC.CFG on your card, then turn camera off and on.
What are the results?

Ciao, Walter

Walter,

I will try but at my office not with out the cam :(.  What do a I name it as anything?

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on August 22, 2013, 03:44:01 PM
I am, of course, intrigued by the possibility! I'm a video student with a limited budget, and at this time can't afford to either upgrade to the Panasonic GH3 or the Canon 5D Mark III (two cameras I really want to get my hands on!)

So I'm looking for any way to increase the sharpness and professionalism of the footage coming out of the 650D.
Not sure if this is an option for you (and not to knock the T4i, it is a great camera with ML), but you might consider the 50D.  I believe the 50D has RAW video support and a CF card slot making it the cheapest option for 1080p RAW video.  The catch is that there is no audio.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 22, 2013, 04:51:18 PM
I found the comment below in another forum.  It implies only 560.  So are you guys really getting 1080 x 720?

vitos1k
Just arrived
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Posts: 6

RAW on 650D / 700D?
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2013, 04:16:54 PM »
Quote
1280x560 is maximum i could get on my 650D with UHS-I card. It seems that controller is limited to 30-40mb/s which is poor
but 1280x560 looks great, even upscaled !
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 30dbs on August 22, 2013, 05:21:53 PM
I found the comment below in another forum.  It implies only 560.  So are you guys really getting 1080 x 720?

I can get 1280*720 out of my Sandisk UHS1 card, but only at 24fps, thats a big factor, if you are shooting even at 25fps you'll get dropped frames or recording will stop.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 22, 2013, 05:43:00 PM
I can get 1280*720 out of my Sandisk UHS1 card, but only at 24fps, thats a big factor, if you are shooting even at 25fps you'll get dropped frames or recording will stop.

Would it be possible for you (or anyone)  to outline your settings for doing this.  As you might see above 1280x720 does not appear for me.  So maybe I have some setting incorrect.

I see from many searches that people like your self have gotten 1280x720.

I assume for starters that the 24fps is set in the fps override.

thanks in advance & sorry to be a pest.

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 30dbs on August 22, 2013, 05:45:30 PM
Would it be possible for you (or anyone)  to outline your settings for doing this.  As you might see above 1280x720 does not appear for me.  So maybe I have some setting incorrect.

I see from many searches that people like your self have gotten 1280x720.

I assume for starters that the 24fps is set in the fps override.

thanks in advance & sorry to be a pest.

dave
All I did was made sure that my video mode was set to 1080p 24fps in the standard canon menu.  then it allowed the higher resolutions.  The raw mode overrides the res but the FPS has to be set in the canon menu.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on August 22, 2013, 05:49:44 PM
I found the comment below in another forum.  It implies only 560.  So are you guys really getting 1080 x 720?

vitos1k
Just arrived
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Posts: 6

RAW on 650D / 700D?
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2013, 04:16:54 PM »
Quote
1280x560 is maximum i could get on my 650D with UHS-I card. It seems that controller is limited to 30-40mb/s which is poor
but 1280x560 looks great, even upscaled !
I think that is about what the 650D was getting in June.  Developers make the world better.  Thanks ML team.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 22, 2013, 05:56:59 PM
I just tried to set the resolution to maximum and it is 1728x1156 when Canon's setting 640x480 is used.
In 1280x720 (Canon) ML switches to 1728x692
in 1920x1080/24 back to 1728x1156.
Of course continuous video is impossible with the given interface ...

David, please make sure you are using the most recent build by satriani.
There is something fishy going on with your cam.

Ciao, Walter


Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on August 22, 2013, 09:28:39 PM
Could you explain to me how this is different from just hooking up your camera now to your PC and browsing the folders on the SD card through the computer?

Yes :) Many Image import softwares (like Adobe Bridge, Image Capture (Mac), etc.) won't import the RAW videos (because the format is unknown for them) and you can't change other extra files you might have (ML files for example). So you need a card reader to be able to get the RAW videos you shoot or update ML. I think it will be cool to be able to directly access SD from the USB Cable.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on August 22, 2013, 09:36:50 PM
I found the comment below in another forum.  It implies only 560.  So are you guys really getting 1080 x 720?

vitos1k
Just arrived
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Posts: 6

RAW on 650D / 700D?
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2013, 04:16:54 PM »
Quote
1280x560 is maximum i could get on my 650D with UHS-I card. It seems that controller is limited to 30-40mb/s which is poor
but 1280x560 looks great, even upscaled !

You guys are saying that when you use the UHS-I cards in your 650D, you can't get above 30-40mb/s ? Because as I researched, I found out that UHS-I UHS104 cards can record up to 104 mb/s with 208 Mhz clock frequency, but only 50 mb/s with 100 Mhz frequency.

Maybe you don't have UHS104 cards and are using slow UHS-I cards?

See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#UHS_Speed_Class (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#UHS_Speed_Class)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 22, 2013, 09:44:23 PM
30dbs and Walter,

Thank you for your responses.  I will play more tonite.  But I believe I have the most recent update  but will check.

yea I don't like fishy :).

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on August 22, 2013, 09:51:48 PM
Yes :) Many Image import softwares (like Adobe Bridge, Image Capture (Mac), etc.) won't import the RAW videos (because the format is unknown for them) and you can't change other extra files you might have (ML files for example). So you need a card reader to be able to get the RAW videos you shoot or update ML. I think it will be cool to be able to directly access SD from the USB Cable.

okay so your talking about accessing protected files, gotcha, okay but well you know you can get a card reader for like $10us, I mean the time it takes to plug in a USB cable to your camera and what not is the same amount of time as mounting your SD card in a card reader, in fact Im able to do it quicker then leaving it in my camera which simply waste my cameras battery and just adds wear and tear to the camera itself.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 22, 2013, 10:00:51 PM
Maybe you don't have UHS104 cards and are using slow UHS-I cards?
Please have a look at the old 650D thread.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on August 22, 2013, 10:08:36 PM
You guys are saying that when you use the UHS-I cards in your 650D, you can't get above 30-40mb/s ? Because as I researched, I found out that UHS-I UHS104 cards can record up to 104 mb/s with 208 Mhz clock frequency, but only 50 mb/s with 100 Mhz frequency.

Maybe you don't have UHS104 cards and are using slow UHS-I cards?

See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#UHS_Speed_Class (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#UHS_Speed_Class)
The card is not the limitation (if you get a 45MB/s card).  The hardware in the camera is what runs at 100 MHz and cannot be changed (entirely new level of hacking, start your own forum).  The bus sends 4 bits per clock giving a theoretical max of 50MB/s.  IRL we are seeing ~40MB/s on testing.  Not trying to be a jerk with the bold but incorrect capitalization when taking about such things might get you bit.

May not want to send him back there undirected.  There was much misinformation on that thread as well.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 22, 2013, 11:03:53 PM
argh

got a 64 gig 45 mb/s and EOS card does not seem to work on it :(

dave

update never mind got it :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 22, 2013, 11:14:26 PM
Yea,

Got 720P :)

d
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on August 23, 2013, 01:06:25 AM
The card is not the limitation (if you get a 45MB/s card).  The hardware in the camera is what runs at 100 MHz and cannot be changed (entirely new level of hacking, start your own forum).  The bus sends 4 bits per clock giving a theoretical max of 50MB/s.  IRL we are seeing ~40MB/s on testing.  Not trying to be a jerk with the bold but incorrect capitalization when taking about such things might get you bit.

May not want to send him back there undirected.  There was much misinformation on that thread as well.

Thx for the reply :) I'm aware of the difference. I was just being lazy to make the letters capital. Sorry.
I know that's the camera hardware which runs at 100 Mhz and not the card. My point was that if even the camera supports higher transfer rates, your card should still support higher rates.  Anyway sorry for the misinformation.

So concluding from your information, the only way to support higher transfer rates is to overclock the camera hardware. right?

I would test the overclocking if I had a useless camera in my hands and I didn't mind if it broke. But I really test magic lantern on my primary camera which I use for daily stuff and I'm worried. If it breaks, I'm dead :p
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 23, 2013, 02:12:42 AM
Yea,

Got 720P :)

d

So my system seems to be working.   Not so many new here, but at this time a complete summary of how to do all of this,  cradle to grave,  so to speak by you experts would be huge.  I am speaking raw of course.

Dave

Ps thanks from what I have seen for being a nice forum.  Believe my others are not and precludes learning.

Update argh my = me
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on August 23, 2013, 03:18:39 AM
Well, I'm gone a day and mightily confused by what some folks are saying! Not getting full 720p, then getting it? Haha okay. Upload the results people! I look forward to seeing everyone's work.


Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on August 23, 2013, 03:25:03 AM
Not sure if this is an option for you (and not to knock the T4i, it is a great camera with ML), but you might consider the 50D.  I believe the 50D has RAW video support and a CF card slot making it the cheapest option for 1080p RAW video.  The catch is that there is no audio.

I think when I upgrade my camera, I'll probably hold out for the Mark II, Mark III or go a different route and get a Panasonic GH3 (just for video). The GH3 has some amazing sharpness in video, it's virtually unbeatable (unless up against a Mark III with RAW video).
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on August 23, 2013, 03:52:58 AM
Also, sorry to have three posts in a row, but I figured I'd ask:

How quickly are you folks filling up your cards shooting RAW video? I'm just thinking about doing a test sometime at the beginning of september and wondering if I should pick up another Sandisk...
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 23, 2013, 02:09:18 PM
All,

What you you using to recompile the files into video?  Virtual Dub?

Thanks

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 23, 2013, 02:10:09 PM
Well, I'm gone a day and mightily confused by what some folks are saying! Not getting full 720p, then getting it? Haha okay. Upload the results people! I look forward to seeing everyone's work.

For me I reloaded ML and finally I had 720.  Something was wrong somewhere or ass Walter said "fishy"
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on August 23, 2013, 05:50:37 PM
Here is a video shot in RAW 1476x626 with ML alpha from last july (not the latest build so, I'll test the RAW from earlier versions soon).

All infos are in the video description.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZweCHSgV6k

Find out my new website : http://www.gna-productions.com with my videos, photos and tutorials.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on August 23, 2013, 08:17:15 PM
What you you using to recompile the files into video?  Virtual Dub?
This would be better answered in a post processing workflow thread.  It has the advantage that all ML RAW video users will be able to give answers.  In the post processing of RAW video, it has more to do with your platform (Win/Lin/Mac) and tools.  You might want to start with the below thread and check out the other threads in Post Processing Workflow section.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5404.275
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on August 23, 2013, 08:20:43 PM
How quickly are you folks filling up your cards shooting RAW video? I'm just thinking about doing a test sometime at the beginning of september and wondering if I should pick up another Sandisk...
I don't have a card fast enough to record at 720p at the moment, but to try to give you an answer (and bump)... I think a 32 GB card will hold ~13 minutes of RAW video.  Please correct me if I'm wrong anyone out there running 720p RAW video.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on August 23, 2013, 09:01:17 PM
What you you using to recompile the files into video?  Virtual Dub?

For my part I import the DNG sequence into after effects, apply some color correction/white balance with camera RAW and then export a lossless video, which can be edited in Premiere.

I don't have a card fast enough to record at 720p at the moment, but to try to give you an answer (and bump)... I think a 32 GB card will hold ~13 minutes of RAW video.  Please correct me if I'm wrong anyone out there running 720p RAW video.

At 1476x626 23.976 the RAW video bitrate stands around 35MB/s , so in a 32 GB Card we can theoretically record around 15 minutes of RAW.

EDIT : Magic lantern says the bitrate is around 35MB/s when recording but after verification the real bitrate is around 38 MB/s .
(RAW File 1476x626 for 273 [email protected] = 430 249 KB)
So the recording time on a 32GB card is more like 14 minutes.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 23, 2013, 09:46:21 PM
EDIT : Magic lantern says the bitrate is around 35MB/s when recording but after verification the real bitrate is around 38 MB/s .
(RAW File 1476x626 for 273 [email protected] = 430 249 KB)
So the recording time on a 32GB card is more like 14 minutes.
The real capacity  of a 32GB card is always ~2GB smaller.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on August 23, 2013, 09:54:36 PM
The real capacity  of a 32GB card is always ~2GB smaller.
That's because windows count in GiB without saying it !, but when you check the properties you can see that the space is pretty close from 32GB (for my card : 31 855 968 256 bytes)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 23, 2013, 11:27:02 PM
That's because windows count in GiB without saying it !,...
Not only Windows.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on August 24, 2013, 03:25:27 AM
Here is a video shot in RAW 1476x626 with ML alpha from last july (not the latest build so, I'll test the RAW from earlier versions soon).

All infos are in the video description.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZweCHSgV6k

Find out my new website : http://www.gna-productions.com with my videos, photos and tutorials.


That looks FANTASTIC! Great video!!!

Looks like I'll need to buy some more CF cards!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jbassoc on August 24, 2013, 07:36:08 PM
Ok guys. I have a shoot in two hours and would like to get magic lantern on my T4i w/1.0.4. (Had it on my T3i but sold it.) I tried repeatedly to get ML on this camera. Followed the instructions to a T. Low level formatted the card(new sandisk 16G sdhc 1), Copied the unzipped Download onto the card. Unzipped it on the card. Put it in the camera in manual mode.  When I go to do the firmware update it tells me 'Memory card containing firmware is required to update'. Don't recall having this problem installing on the T3i. What am I missing?? Any suggestion??
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on August 24, 2013, 08:10:56 PM
Did you put a .fir file on the SD card?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jbassoc on August 24, 2013, 08:38:22 PM
here's whats on it
DCIM
magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug03.650D104
650D.104.installer.fir
autoexec.bin
autoexec.bin.cpgz
INSTALL.pdf
ML
UserGuide.pdf
magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug03.650D104.zip
MISC
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: learningforever on August 24, 2013, 09:21:13 PM
The only step that I can remember doing differently is that I saved the zipped file to my computer and not the SD card. Then I extracted to the SD card only the files that the archive contained. Why have the zip there ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: OpenMind on August 24, 2013, 10:04:34 PM
What am I missing?? Any suggestion??
Everything you need is in the first post of this thread...
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7473.msg63845#msg63845

If I'm not wrong I missed the part about EOSCard in your description.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 24, 2013, 10:27:23 PM
Since the new installer you don't need Eos Card.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on August 25, 2013, 12:03:38 AM
here's whats on it
DCIM
magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug03.650D104
650D.104.installer.fir
autoexec.bin
autoexec.bin.cpgz
INSTALL.pdf
ML
UserGuide.pdf
magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug03.650D104.zip
MISC

Just to be sure, check your firmware version.. Are you already on 1.0.4? If you are not, you should update to 1.0.4 first.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: doex on August 25, 2013, 01:04:51 PM
Thank you for all your work here. :-)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jbassoc on August 25, 2013, 04:09:01 PM
Well I missed being able to use ML on yesterdays shoot. Have another 3hr video shoot today and still can't get ML on my T4i. See my previous Post. To answer some suggestions from the forum.
I am on 1.0.4. It was installed during a factory repair.
I tried unzipping the download 3 ways.

1. Unzipped the download on the desktop and then copied the contents to the SD card. This worked for my T3i. But not my T4i.get msg 'Memory card containing firmware is required to update'

2. I copied the download directly to the SD card and unzipped it on the card. Put it in the camera. Same msg.'Memory card containing firmware is required to update'

3. I then deleted the original download zip from the SD card. Still get msg 'Memory card containing firmware is required to update'

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 25, 2013, 04:12:58 PM
What's the card size?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jbassoc on August 25, 2013, 04:17:51 PM
San Disk 16GB SDHC 1 class 10 45MB/s
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jbassoc on August 25, 2013, 04:21:05 PM
San Disk 16GB SDHC 1 class 10 45MB/s
contents
▶DCIM
▼magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug03.650D104
650D.104.installer.fir
autoexec.bin
autoexec.bin.cpgz
INSTALL.pdf
ML
UserGuide.pdf
MISC
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 25, 2013, 04:34:19 PM
Wrong folder structure.

650D.104.installer.fir
autoexec.bin
autoexec.bin.cpgz
INSTALL.pdf
ML
UserGuide.pdf
MISC

should be in the root of the card not inside the magiclantern-XXXX folder
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on August 25, 2013, 04:54:56 PM
I've been thinking...to do a longer RAW video shoot on the 650D, in addition to having more ML installed CF cards, what about having some sort of portable hard drive that you could transfer footage onto in the field?

Way, way back I used to have an iPod 5G 60GB I used with my Rebel XT to transfer RAW photos onto when I was traveling in Europe. It was way easier than carrying multiple cards (could hold music too!) and the iPod is pretty damn reliable in terms of not losing stuff.

That roughly 14 minutes of RAW footage on a 32GB card is killer, haha...as with video I like to do multiple shoots of the same angle at varying exposures/f stops to make sure I get a good shot.

What do you guys think? I'd love to shoot my thesis project for school with RAW video next spring, so I'm trying to think of easy ways to get around RAW's huge file sizes in the field.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jbassoc on August 25, 2013, 06:19:42 PM
Wrong folder structure.

650D.104.installer.fir
autoexec.bin
autoexec.bin.cpgz
INSTALL.pdf
ML
UserGuide.pdf
MISC


should be in the root of the card not inside the magiclantern-XXXX folder


THANK YOU, THANK YOU. Works now.
Maybe we could some how clarify the install instructions to emphasize only installing the files and folders inside the unzipped magiclantern-XXXX folder, not the whole folder.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on August 25, 2013, 06:47:30 PM
Nanomad, what's the procedure I should follow to get the silent_pic_get_name function to be defined?
I decided to do some raw test using the don't click me option (which is what you guys use for debugging I think).

Code: [Select]
static void run_raw_test()
{
    /* Run RAW test to determine the best RAW_TYPE on 650D */
    for (int type = 0; type < 100; type++)
    {
        /* from lv_af_raw -> lv_set_raw_type(arg0 ? 4 : 7) -> MEM(0x2D168) = a bunch of values, default 34 */
        /* RAW value address for 650D is 0x350B4 */
        MEM(0x350B4) = type;
       
        /* this enables a LiveView debug flag that gives us 14-bit RAW data. Cool! */
        raw_lv_request();
        msleep(50);
       
        /* after filling one frame, disable the flag so we can dump the data without tearing */
        raw_lv_release();
        msleep(50);

        /* update raw geometry, autodetect black/white levels etc */
        raw_update_params();

        /* save it to card */
        char* fn = silent_pic_get_name();
        bmp_printf(FONT_MED, 0, 60, "Saving raw type %d", type);
        save_dng(fn);
    }
}

I got the code from a post by a1ex.

This is what I did until now:
1. In the src/debug.c I wrote my custom function which does the test (captures dngs and saves to sd using the silent_pic_get_name function).
2. I changed the function that the Don't Click Me option calls to the custom function I wrote.
3. In the features.h file in the 650D, I defined two options: #define FEATURE_SILENT_PIC and #define FEATURE_SILENT_PIC_RAW which is what I think causes the function to be defined....

But until now, all I get is this when compiling:

Code: [Select]
debug.o: In function `run_raw_test':
debug.c:(.text+0xb90): undefined reference to `silent_pic_get_name'
state-object.o: In function `stateobj_lv_spy':
state-object.c:(.text+0x150): undefined reference to `silent_pic_preview'
state-object.c:(.text+0x1d0): undefined reference to `silent_pic_raw_vsync'

Got any ideas?

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on August 25, 2013, 07:05:19 PM
Nanomad, what's the procedure I should follow to get the silent_pic_get_name function to be defined?
I decided to do some raw test using the don't click me option (which is what you guys use for debugging I think).

Code: [Select]
static void run_raw_test()
{
    /* Run RAW test to determine the best RAW_TYPE on 650D */
    for (int type = 0; type < 100; type++)
    {
        /* from lv_af_raw -> lv_set_raw_type(arg0 ? 4 : 7) -> MEM(0x2D168) = a bunch of values, default 34 */
        /* RAW value address for 650D is 0x350B4 */
        MEM(0x350B4) = type;
       
        /* this enables a LiveView debug flag that gives us 14-bit RAW data. Cool! */
        raw_lv_request();
        msleep(50);
       
        /* after filling one frame, disable the flag so we can dump the data without tearing */
        raw_lv_release();
        msleep(50);

        /* update raw geometry, autodetect black/white levels etc */
        raw_update_params();

        /* save it to card */
        char* fn = silent_pic_get_name();
        bmp_printf(FONT_MED, 0, 60, "Saving raw type %d", type);
        save_dng(fn);
    }
}

I got the code from a post by a1ex.

This is what I did until now:
1. In the src/debug.c I wrote my custom function which does the test (captures dngs and saves to sd using the silent_pic_get_name function).
2. I changed the function that the Don't Click Me option calls to the custom function I wrote.
3. In the features.h file in the 650D, I defined two options: #define FEATURE_SILENT_PIC and #define FEATURE_SILENT_PIC_RAW which is what I think causes the function to be defined....

But until now, all I get is this when compiling:

Code: [Select]
debug.o: In function `run_raw_test':
debug.c:(.text+0xb90): undefined reference to `silent_pic_get_name'
state-object.o: In function `stateobj_lv_spy':
state-object.c:(.text+0x150): undefined reference to `silent_pic_preview'
state-object.c:(.text+0x1d0): undefined reference to `silent_pic_raw_vsync'

Got any ideas?

Not r a coder myself but wouldn't the # before define make it a comment and be ignored?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on August 25, 2013, 07:15:14 PM
Not r a coder myself but wouldn't the # before define make it a comment and be ignored?

No. Not in C.  For example we do #include, which includes a file. # indicates a comment in bash scripts usually.

http://www.cprogramming.com/reference/preprocessor/define.html (http://www.cprogramming.com/reference/preprocessor/define.html)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on August 25, 2013, 07:20:47 PM
No. Not in C.  For example we do #include, which includes a file. # indicates a comment in bash scripts usually.

http://www.cprogramming.com/reference/preprocessor/define.html (http://www.cprogramming.com/reference/preprocessor/define.html)

Thanks for clarifying that and sorry should have googled it first before posting. I have no C experience as you can tell, just a little bash and perl scripting.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 25, 2013, 08:16:36 PM
This would be better answered in a post processing workflow thread.  It has the advantage that all ML RAW video users will be able to give answers.  In the post processing of RAW video, it has more to do with your platform (Win/Lin/Mac) and tools.  You might want to start with the below thread and check out the other threads in Post Processing Workflow section.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5404.275

Thank you I will do that.  Just looking for help.  We also have the pink dot problem to deal with.

Just to mention, I can reassemble in PS6 and QuickTime. 

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 25, 2013, 08:27:07 PM
Here is a video shot in RAW 1476x626 with ML alpha from last july (not the latest build so, I'll test the RAW from earlier versions soon).

All infos are in the video description.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZweCHSgV6k

Find out my new website : http://www.gna-productions.com with my videos, photos and tutorials.

Very nice,

Can I ask how long it took you to work through the process from extracting to remove dots etc, to final film?

Thanks

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on August 25, 2013, 09:57:58 PM
I have started an other tread about this subject here:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7788.new#new (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7788.new#new)

However as the 650 and 700D have a HDR function on the dial I wonder if this specific function could be included?

Is it possible to turn the dial to HDR and then overwrite the canon settings and enable M mode and activate advanced bracketing? And turning the dial back to e.g. M would deactivate advanced bracketing again. 
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: OpenMind on August 25, 2013, 11:47:08 PM
Maybe we could some how clarify the install instructions to emphasize only installing the files and folders inside the unzipped magiclantern-XXXX folder, not the whole folder.
That depends on the software you are using to unzip, not on the zip package.

Often the unzip process starts with an option to select a place where you want to unzip the contents. Default this could be set to the location of the zip file + name of the zip file as an extra folder.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 33black on August 26, 2013, 08:09:28 AM
I posted this alongside something else and I think everyone missed it...

Just checking, STILL no audio with FPS override?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: divxclub on August 26, 2013, 08:50:14 AM
Hi guys ! I made a post about not having my baby in the list and it looks like you're hard at work to make it happen. Can anyone explain about current state of the T4i ML and when we can expect stable release. I do understand that it takes time and stuff like that but with your previous experience how long it'll take to get at list to Beta because Alpha release really does not seat okay with me. Also few questions if possible. In real life what features work and what does not. Like I am not talking about sine crazy features, let's say full auto picture will it work ? How about full auto Video , again nothing special all stock settings. All I am trying to ask if let;s say I use only stock features will I have a problem because I am etching to try it. Can I go back and forward with stock and ML on the fly or I have to re flash all the time.

Youy guys rock, Thank you !
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 26, 2013, 09:00:40 AM
Can anyone explain about current state of the T4i ML

If you are able to explain which part of "Status: Alpha" you're unable to understand we will try to help you.

and when we can expect stable release.

a) The alpha version is quite stable
and
b) the question about dates is considered to be a Troll Question:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/faq.html#q45 (last one)

In real life what features work and what does not.

Covered in this thread. Begin reading first post.

Can I go back and forward with stock and ML on the fly or I have to re flash all the time.

See answer above. The current version has autoboot enabled. If the card is prepared for ML it will start after boot. If not it won't. Stock (= Canon's firmware and interface) is always there and available because ML sits on top of Canon's software and doesn't replace it.

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on August 26, 2013, 09:52:41 AM
I have started an other tread about this subject here:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7788.new#new (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7788.new#new)

However as the 650 and 700D have a HDR function on the dial I wonder if this specific function could be included?

Is it possible to turn the dial to HDR and then overwrite the canon settings and enable M mode and activate advanced bracketing? And turning the dial back to e.g. M would deactivate advanced bracketing again.

to bad this got shot down :(
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on August 26, 2013, 10:02:18 AM
to bad this got shot down :(

I think it's still very alive...
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 26, 2013, 06:40:12 PM
Hi all,

Messing with raw this weekend.  One thing that really attracted me to raw was some of the videos that showed the increases in sharpness (as well as other edits like white balance.  My attempts so far do not have the extra sharpness.  I probably need more practice, but I wonder about the 1280 x 720 size.  When I bring the dng into PS6 it comes in as 0.9 mp / 300 ppi and wonder if that is what the difference is. 

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on August 26, 2013, 06:52:40 PM
I think it's still very alive...

well the guy over in that thread seems pretty negative about it...
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 26, 2013, 07:47:51 PM
I probably need more practice, but I wonder about the 1280 x 720 size.  When I bring the dng into PS6 it comes in as 0.9 mp / 300 ppi and wonder if that is what the difference is. 
Which difference?
1280*720=0,9216mp

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on August 26, 2013, 09:10:57 PM
Very nice,

Can I ask how long it took you to work through the process from extracting to remove dots etc, to final film?

Thanks

dave
Sure, and you're lucky : I've timed most of the process !

Precisely, I've shot 11min12sec of RAW at 1476x626 (16 251 [email protected]), for about 25GB on the memory card.

- The raw2cinema DNG (using RAW Magic on osx) took me 12min21sec (I ran the process directly from the rushes on the memory card and sets the output on the hardrive). Output 28GB of DNG (not 25 due to the 14bits > 16bits conforming I guess).
- PinkDotRemover tooks 34min44 (And gives me another 28GB of dots-free DNG). I used search expression (which I don't remember sorry) to selects all DNG without initial underscore (_) and delete them in order to keep only the dots free DNG.
- Finally, After Effects exports all rushes in uncompressed 8bit color-graded videos within 2h10 (Output : 39.7GB, always in 1476x626).

So globally, processing a RAW file from .RAW to 8bit video takes 15min for 1 minutes of shooting.

I haven't timed the final editing process (done with Premiere pro), but it was fast as all rushes were already processed in uncompressed 8 bits videos.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 26, 2013, 09:15:56 PM
Which difference?
1280*720=0,9216mp

sorry not complete I was thinking compared to 1080P :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 26, 2013, 09:27:56 PM
Sure, and you're lucky : I've timed most of the process !

Precisely, I've shot 11min12sec of RAW at 1476x626 (16 251 [email protected]), for about 25GB on the memory card.

- The raw2cinema DNG (using RAW Magic on osx) took me 12min21sec (I ran the process directly from the rushes on the memory card and sets the output on the hardrive). Output 28GB of DNG (not 25 due to the 14bits > 16bits conforming I guess).
- PinkDotRemover tooks 34min44 (And gives me another 28GB of dots-free DNG). I used search expression (which I don't remember sorry) to selects all DNG without initial underscore (_) and delete them in order to keep only the dots free DNG.
- Finally, After Effects exports all rushes in uncompressed 8bit color-graded videos within 2h10 (Output : 39.7GB, always in 1476x626).

So globally, processing a RAW file from .RAW to 8bit video takes 15min for 1 minutes of shooting.

I haven't timed the final editing process (done with Premiere pro), but it was fast as all rushes were already processed in uncompressed 8 bits videos.

dsagilles,

Thank you so much.  This is really interesting both in terms of time and file sizes and about what I have been thinking.  I only have been doing something like 20 sec clips so far at 720P.  Lots of experimentation yet.  I have some ideas about integration audio back in from an independent recording.

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 26, 2013, 10:32:45 PM
Sure, and you're lucky : I've timed most of the process !

Precisely, I've shot 11min12sec of RAW at 1476x626 (16 251 [email protected]), for about 25GB on the memory card.

- The raw2cinema DNG (using RAW Magic on osx) took me 12min21sec (I ran the process directly from the rushes on the memory card and sets the output on the hardrive). Output 28GB of DNG (not 25 due to the 14bits > 16bits conforming I guess).
- PinkDotRemover tooks 34min44 (And gives me another 28GB of dots-free DNG). I used search expression (which I don't remember sorry) to selects all DNG without initial underscore (_) and delete them in order to keep only the dots free DNG.
- Finally, After Effects exports all rushes in uncompressed 8bit color-graded videos within 2h10 (Output : 39.7GB, always in 1476x626).

So globally, processing a RAW file from .RAW to 8bit video takes 15min for 1 minutes of shooting.

I haven't timed the final editing process (done with Premiere pro), but it was fast as all rushes were already processed in uncompressed 8 bits videos.

Got my cam.   Interesting, I do not have the aspect ratio you used nor do I have 1476.  I have 1472x828 at 16:9 but on my 45 45b/s card, I can not get continuous frames using this.  Also 20 sec gets my about 1 gig file size so not clear of diff with your file size.  Any other setting you did?  Sorry if these observations are too rookie like.  I am just really starting to learn about the video aspect of our camera.

dave

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on August 26, 2013, 11:20:56 PM
- The raw2cinema DNG ...
- PinkDotRemover ...
I would first use the PinkDotRemover because there are not so many file operations which makes it faster.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on August 27, 2013, 01:01:01 AM

Got my cam.   Interesting, I do not have the aspect ratio you used nor do I have 1476.  I have 1472x828 at 16:9 but on my 45 45b/s card, I can not get continuous frames using this.  Also 20 sec gets my about 1 gig file size so not clear of diff with your file size.  Any other setting you did?  Sorry if these observations are too rookie like.  I am just really starting to learn about the video aspect of our camera.

dave
The 14xx resolution was 1:2.35 not 16:9. 1472x838 is likely too high for continuous recording
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: divxclub on August 27, 2013, 01:20:19 AM
Guys trying to install ML and I followed everything as stated. On installation step I go to flash firmware and it's saying file cannot be found. I do have 64GB SanDisk Ultra card. Also If I can't use 64GB card what is procedure to install ML then swap card to my 64GB or it's impossible and I have to stick with <32GB card ?

Thank you !

UPDATE. I managed to find old 8gb SD and ML installed without a problem, I even managed to update to August 26 N Build. Now my 100$ question is this. Can I use my high-end 64GB card wtih ML or I am stuck here ?

Thanks guys !

UPDATE 2.
After all this I started to think how can I go around, All I had to do copy all files on my 64GB card and use utility to make it ML bootable manually. Now I got my 64GB card and ML. And I feel stupit for asking question to begin with without thinking for about 10 seconds.

Семь раз отмерь один раз отреж, а у меня получилось наоборот.

Thank you guys !
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: divxclub on August 27, 2013, 02:31:43 AM
Latest build. In EOS Utility I can't select Camera settings/Remote shooting. I was trying to load Tecknocolor picture profile. Anyway to load profile without this utility ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jaegersing on August 27, 2013, 07:24:31 AM
Latest build. In EOS Utility I can't select Camera settings/Remote shooting. I was trying to load Tecknocolor picture profile. Anyway to load profile without this utility ?

Try setting the cam to Manual mode before you switch it on.

Richard
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on August 27, 2013, 10:18:10 AM
I would first use the PinkDotRemover because there are not so many file operations which makes it faster.
PinkDotRemover (v0.7) only convert .DNG files, not directly .RAW .
The 14xx resolution was 1:2.35 not 16:9. 1472x838 is likely too high for continuous recording
Exactly !

Even if ML doesn't always say "Continuous OK", it looks like it is.

Also it's possible to shoot something like less than 10sec at 16xx 2.35, which might be handy for some very short shots.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on August 27, 2013, 10:42:10 AM
Quote
PinkDotRemover (v0.7) only convert .DNG files, not directly .RAW .

Use the debug release. It can process raw files directly:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.msg62437#msg62437
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 27, 2013, 03:37:29 PM
The 14xx resolution was 1:2.35 not 16:9. 1472x838 is likely too high for continuous recording

gotcha
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on August 27, 2013, 05:53:41 PM
I'm back from vacation everyone!

I'm planning on compiling a whole mess of tests, benchmarks, and other various checks for the latest ML release. However, I'm currently waiting on a new charger for my T4i. My stock charger was stolen from me while on vacation, and I just used up the last of my remaining juice today.

I'm planning on doing:
-RAW resoultion tests w/ SanDisk Extreme 95Mb/s'
-RAW Pinkdotremover Tests
-Card Reader Benchmarks (using my entire card collection)
-RAW quality tests (sharpness, color, etc)
-A full short shot at the highest continuous resolution.

If you've got any additional requests just let me know and I'll add them in.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 27, 2013, 11:54:22 PM
I'm back from vacation everyone!

I'm planning on compiling a whole mess of tests, benchmarks, and other various checks for the latest ML release. However, I'm currently waiting on a new charger for my T4i. My stock charger was stolen from me while on vacation, and I just used up the last of my remaining juice today.

I'm planning on doing:
-RAW resoultion tests w/ SanDisk Extreme 95Mb/s'
-RAW Pinkdotremover Tests
-Card Reader Benchmarks (using my entire card collection)
-RAW quality tests (sharpness, color, etc)
-A full short shot at the highest continuous resolution.

If you've got any additional requests just let me know and I'll add them in.

Wow this sounds truly great.  You vacation like me :).  So just got an 8 gig 80 mb/s card for grins.   Does not seem to make any diff versus my 45.  My thinking is that here it has been said that above 45 does not make a difference because our cam can not go that high.  Seems to be true but if you have different results I am realllly interested.  Looking forward to your great work.

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on August 28, 2013, 04:59:32 AM
Wow this sounds truly great.  You vacation like me :).  So just got an 8 gig 80 mb/s card for grins.   Does not seem to make any diff versus my 45.  My thinking is that here it has been said that above 45 does not make a difference because our cam can not go that high.  Seems to be true but if you have different results I am realllly interested.  Looking forward to your great work.

dave

I feel like using higher bitrate cards gives you more "headroom" I suppose. To me, it just feels a little safer having twice as much bitrate available, just in case. That way, any bottlenecks are for sure the camera and not the card.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on August 28, 2013, 08:58:09 AM
okay I know this may not be the right place for it but it could be a bug not sure, when I attempt to turn on lock mirror and use only the view finder to take photos, I still hear the mirror move like a normal shot, is this not working or am I doing something wrong with the settings?

Edit: nevermind it only says in orange lettering that this feature does not work... my bad ^^;;
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on August 28, 2013, 09:16:38 AM
Use the debug release. It can process raw files directly:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.msg62437#msg62437
Oh sweet ! Thanks !
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 28, 2013, 02:31:39 PM
I feel like using higher bitrate cards gives you more "headroom" I suppose. To me, it just feels a little safer having twice as much bitrate available, just in case. That way, any bottlenecks are for sure the camera and not the card.

sounds reasonable

update:  PS done with your analyses yet :)?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ilucris on August 28, 2013, 04:37:03 PM
все работает, жаль настроек звука нет. спасибо еще раз!
everything works, sorry no sound settings. Thank you again!

I keep reading that there is an issue with the sound.
Does this mean that
1. there are no sound settings (as in no access to them or not working!?)
2. there are no extra (ML) sound settings just the canon firmware default settings?
3. there is no sound working (you can't record video with sound) ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on August 28, 2013, 06:14:36 PM
#2. Just the canon stuff
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: JKB2013 on August 29, 2013, 03:39:46 PM
is there still any chance in the future to get rid of the pink dots in camera?
or do we have to live with it and try to optimize the PinkDotRemover tool?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on August 29, 2013, 04:00:26 PM
There's always hope. For now there's the PDR tool which works pretty well
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 29, 2013, 04:52:08 PM
is there still any chance in the future to get rid of the pink dots in camera?
or do we have to live with it and try to optimize the PinkDotRemover tool?

Hola, funciona perfecto sin puntos  verde ni rosa, pero lamentablemente solo uno de los updates  y link https://www.dropbox.com/s/tu8tgpbady8oyqp/ML.rar (https://www.dropbox.com/s/tu8tgpbady8oyqp/ML.rar) , raw modo excelente . El ISO bien ajustado excelente imagen 0 puntos . Saludos ,Gerardo.

Traductor

Hello, works perfect without green dots or pink, but unfortunately only one of the updates and link https://www.dropbox.com/s/tu8tgpbady8oyqp/ML.rar, raw excellently. The excellent tight ISO image 0 points. Regards, Gerardo.

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: brewerrj on August 29, 2013, 09:22:54 PM
Again about the sound settings (the ML one) is there any development in that subject on the 650D?
I really would like some VU meters on the live view or at least audio out monitoring through the usb interface of the camera.
Is this possible for the 650D?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 29, 2013, 09:49:41 PM
Again about the sound settings (the ML one) is there any development in that subject on the 650D?
I really would like some VU meters on the live view or at least audio out monitoring through the usb interface of the camera.
Is this possible for the 650D?

Hola , creo que lo mejor es grabar con celular u otro dispositivo separado suena mucho mejor y le da un calidad al video muy aceptable, es mi opinión.

Hello, I think it's best record with phone or other separate device sounds much better and gives a very acceptable video quality at, is my opinion.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on August 29, 2013, 10:06:04 PM
Again about the sound settings (the ML one) is there any development in that subject on the 650D?
I really would like some VU meters on the live view or at least audio out monitoring through the usb interface of the camera.
Is this possible for the 650D?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: killr0y on August 30, 2013, 02:54:19 AM
It's been a while since I've gotten onto the ML forums, and I've waded through a ton of pages and haven't seen the answer to this so please don't bite my head off if someone has already asked this question:

I know our shitty 650D's don't have the bandwidth for 1080p raw video, but what about the original raw mode where you could get 2 seconds of 1080p raw in the buffer and let it do the write-behind to the SD card?  I think that would be a feature worth having.  Of course, next I'm going to hear that the buffer is so tiny that would only work with about 1 second @ 24fps :(
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Alquimia16 on August 30, 2013, 06:55:29 AM
Hey man, continous 720p RAW is enough for the 650D to not be " shitty" at all!

What possible serious use could 1-2sec of 1080p raw have? Maybe im lost but  720p is WAY more than expected for a entry lvl dsrl ;=)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 30, 2013, 01:55:54 PM
Hi all,

two questions

1.  It seems that to manually control ISO you need to be on "M" as any other setting is auto ISO and I can not seem to turn that off.  Is this correct?
2.  Has anyone tried integrating audio into footage?  I assume that one would have to record audio on an independent device and then integrate in software.  Is this correct?  Also if it is it would be interesting if that along with the raw recording, a separate audio recording could be made.

Thanks in advance,

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: brewerrj on August 30, 2013, 06:09:37 PM
  • 1% mentioned a long time ago in a thread far far away some success on the EOS-M (the 650D's evil twin) with audio.  There is some hope and it is somewhere on the list of stuff to do.
  • As with all development on ML there is no estimate of when it will be available or worked on.
  • It's a very useful feature, it is not the ONLY useful feature
  • The developers are aware of a desire for this feature
  • There is a so-so work around to use the canon menu to set the manual gain and check the level
  • You are not alone in requesting this feature in this thread or the one before it.

Just looking for an update from the developers if there is any progress on audio.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mdfaisal on August 31, 2013, 05:45:43 AM
Sure, and you're lucky : I've timed most of the process !

Precisely, I've shot 11min12sec of RAW at 1476x626 (16 251 [email protected]), for about 25GB on the memory card.

- The raw2cinema DNG (using RAW Magic on osx) took me 12min21sec (I ran the process directly from the rushes on the memory card and sets the output on the hardrive). Output 28GB of DNG (not 25 due to the 14bits > 16bits conforming I guess).
- PinkDotRemover tooks 34min44 (And gives me another 28GB of dots-free DNG). I used search expression (which I don't remember sorry) to selects all DNG without initial underscore (_) and delete them in order to keep only the dots free DNG.
- Finally, After Effects exports all rushes in uncompressed 8bit color-graded videos within 2h10 (Output : 39.7GB, always in 1476x626).

So globally, processing a RAW file from .RAW to 8bit video takes 15min for 1 minutes of shooting.

I haven't timed the final editing process (done with Premiere pro), but it was fast as all rushes were already processed in uncompressed 8 bits videos.

Same here... but mine 1 min video raw took about +/- 20 minute. It makes me think twice to record along project with raw.

Pink dot remover takes aloooot of time...
I hope someday developer team make a new version that we dont have to use pink dot remover to clean the dead pixels.  Is it possible 650d to have a clean raw video ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 31, 2013, 06:35:48 AM
Same here... but mine 1 min video raw took about +/- 20 minute. It makes me think twice to record along project with raw.

Pink dot remover takes aloooot of time...
I hope someday developer team make a new version that we dont have to use pink dot remover to clean the dead pixels.  Is it possible 650d to have a clean raw video ?

Yes ,https://www.dropbox.com/s/tu8tgpbady8oyqp/ML.rar , no hay que usar pinkdotremove.

Yes, https://www.dropbox.com/s/tu8tgpbady8oyqp/ML.rar, do not use pinkdotremove
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on August 31, 2013, 07:54:31 AM
Yes ,https://www.dropbox.com/s/tu8tgpbady8oyqp/ML.rar , no hay que usar pinkdotremove.

Yes, https://www.dropbox.com/s/tu8tgpbady8oyqp/ML.rar, do not use pinkdotremove

This method uses RAW_TYPE 78, which marks dead pixels, but produces a full frame grid of green dots, is absolutely not what you want, if you concerned in quality. Later your raw processor interpolates them, but the artifacts are terrible in comparsion with the Pink Dot Remover tool.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.msg69459#msg69459

Just forget it. Use the latest PDR for now.

Quote
Pink dot remover takes aloooot of time...
Latest PDR works directly with RAW files, this is way faster then process every dng individually, also it includes drag&drop support now, so removing pink dots is just a matter of couple of clicks and a few seconds of time.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on August 31, 2013, 04:15:28 PM
This method uses RAW_TYPE 78, which marks dead pixels, but produces a full frame grid of green dots, is absolutely not what you want, if you concerned in quality. Later your raw processor interpolates them, but the artifacts are terrible in comparsion with the Pink Dot Remover tool.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.msg69459#msg69459

Just forget it. Use the latest PDR for now.
Latest PDR works directly with RAW files, this is way faster then process every dng individually, also it includes drag&drop support now, so removing pink dots is just a matter of couple of clicks and a few seconds of time.

Disculpa , pero la calidad que logro con este ML + solo Rawanizer(todos los demás andan diferente)+sin puntos+sin regilla , no la logro con ningún otro . Con pinkdotremove funciona también bien pero no en todas las resoluciones y cuando son muchas las conversiones es un tiempo terrible.


Sorry, but the quality that achievement with this ML + Rawanizer only (all other walk different) + sin + sin regilla points, not with any other achievement. With pinkdotremove works too well but not at all resolutions as are many conversions is a terrible time.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 31, 2013, 08:13:29 PM
Hi all,

two questions

1.  It seems that to manually control ISO you need to be on "M" as any other setting is auto ISO and I can not seem to turn that off.  Is this correct?
2.  Has anyone tried integrating audio into footage?  I assume that one would have to record audio on an independent device and then integrate in software.  Is this correct?  Also if it is it would be interesting if that along with the raw recording, a separate audio recording could be made.

Thanks in advance,

dave

Hi all,

I assume the answers to my questions are yes to both.  I can not change ISO in any other  settings for video raw other than "M".  However when put the camera into "M" the image cycles from light to dark.  Do you know if this is normal?

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 31, 2013, 10:35:55 PM
all,

In addition to the iso comments (can I control) and problems with manual (may have solved) I just noticed that in TV mode when shooting the TV does not stay at 60, which we need.  So is my camera working right or do we need to to M mode at all times?

dave 
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on August 31, 2013, 10:42:55 PM
all,

In addition to the iso comments (can I control) and problems with manual (may have solved) I just noticed that in TV mode when shooting the TV does not stay at 60, which we need.  So is my camera working right or do we need to to M mode at all times?

dave

I think I answered my question.  M at all times I guess.

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on September 01, 2013, 04:45:58 AM
I think I answered my question.  M at all times I guess.

dave

ML doesn't disable or change the functionality of the canon settings, it simply adds extra features. Your issues seem to be you don't know the camera well enough, i'd suggest reading the manual. I use M all the time but I know three are modes that let you control just one setting like Tv mode I believe is shutter priority, you set shutter speed camera sets iso and aperture. I really suggest looking in the manual a this really isn't ML related.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on September 01, 2013, 10:17:12 AM

i shot another raw video. dealing with raw files is a pain i'm sayin you. this 73second non-compressed avi file's size was 13.7gb. uploading this to youtube took more than 24hours (shitty 1mb uploadspeed)

i still use ML build of 20.07.13 and haven't upgraded the camera's firmware. and probably i won't bother to do it unless some big change come up.

what i did:

1) i used raw2dng first to get dng files.
2) used pink remover tool to clear em.
3) opened dng's with PS6 and did some adjustment
4) extracted jpg files (which is downed to 8bit)
5) renamed the jpgs' with "bulk rename utility" (google it)
6) files are joined and mp3 added to auido with virtualdub. now i got a 1600x600 non-comp avi. sized almost 5gb.
7) avi file impoted  into after effects.
8) file interpolated to 1920x1080 (1920x720 actually)
9) extracted again non-comp avi. 13.7gb - ~195mb/s bitrate

even this 70second small footage took enormous time and computing power. so i think most of the time i ll stick with 1080p h264.

this is almost the same scene with h264 canon mode:


footage itself is a bit shaky thx to 50mm non-is lens. and youtube downgraded the quality of 15gb video to a 46mb one. (that's right)  enjoi.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 30dbs on September 01, 2013, 12:24:50 PM
what i did:
1) i used raw2dng first to get dng files.
2) used pink remover tool to clear em.
3) opened dng's with PS6 and did some adjustment
4) extracted jpg files (which is downed to 8bit)
5) renamed the jpgs' with "bulk rename utility" (google it)
6) files are joined and mp3 added to auido with virtualdub. now i got a 1600x600 non-comp avi. sized almost 5gb.
7) avi file impoted  into after effects.
8) file interpolated to 1920x1080 (1920x720 actually)
9) extracted again non-comp avi. 13.7gb - ~195mb/s bitrate

That seems a lot of work, here's what I do.

1) PDR raw file
2) raw2dng
3) import dng into after effects (making colour adjustments here)
4) render out uncompressed into clips.
5) join clips in video editor and render out in h264.

You should never at any point in the process save to lossy compression (jpg) and I am not sure of the benefits of interpolating to 1080p, most players upscale nowadays anyway.

I'm also not sure of the advantages of uploading raw video to youtube, I'm pretty sure that if you (final)render in h264 , in one of the correct sizes/bitrates for youtube it doesn't re-encode anyway.

But you are right its much more work that h264, and unless you have a specific reason to shoot in raw, do not bother. if you really really need the extra dynamic range etc then its worth the extra workflow. otherwise h264 is 100% fine.

here's an example of my raw processed that way.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on September 01, 2013, 01:11:11 PM

You should never at any point in the process save to lossy compression (jpg)
But there is no visible quality loss.
Also I would never upload uncompressed Video too.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on September 01, 2013, 02:01:04 PM
But there is no visible quality loss.
Also I would never upload uncompressed Video too.

well, i thought if  i upload the bigger and the better video, youtube would give me the better streaming video. that's why i upped non-compressed. i guess it is wrong.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Fuma on September 01, 2013, 07:51:18 PM


The more time needed for optimising the RAW files is definitely worth in my opinion.
But as long you are satisfied with Canon h264 everything is ok.

Still hoping the turnaround with the pdr will be obsolete in a near future.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 30dbs on September 01, 2013, 08:09:08 PM
But there is no visible quality loss.
maybe not visible this compression round, but next compression, and subsequent compression it will be more and more visible. lossy compression should only be applied at final rendering stage.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on September 01, 2013, 08:17:38 PM
maybe not visible this compression round, but next compression, and subsequent compression it will be more and more visible. lossy compression should only be applied at final rendering stage.
It is still not visible. You have to do it 50 times and more to see a difference.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on September 01, 2013, 08:19:59 PM
I think RAW is very useful and easy to use.
I worked about 45 minutes on it except processing time.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 30dbs on September 01, 2013, 09:45:09 PM
It is still not visible. You have to do it 50 times and more to see a difference.
Visibility it would show up waaay before recompressing 50 times. plus If you are not worried about the compression, then why on earth would you bother shooting in raw in the first place? a big benefit of raw is that there are no compression artifacts. (especially for me as i mainly use raw for greenscreen) let me make it clear that I understand that lack of compression is not the only advantage to raw but my original point is why waste such an advantage by using jpg as a middle man?

If you are shooting in raw it is because you want the footage in the very best condition possible. jpg WILL deteriorate the quality.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on September 01, 2013, 10:07:24 PM
ML doesn't disable or change the functionality of the canon settings, it simply adds extra features. Your issues seem to be you don't know the camera well enough, i'd suggest reading the manual. I use M all the time but I know three are modes that let you control just one setting like Tv mode I believe is shutter priority, you set shutter speed camera sets iso and aperture. I really suggest looking in the manual a this really isn't ML related.
My canon

I will be polite   :) in my answer.  My canon cameras go back to the 20D, in terms of digital.  I know my camera, including being an early beta tester for Camera Raw. (added the camera raw part as a mod) 

My point is that in TV mode the speed should be fixed as it is with the straight canon software.  When shooting ML raw, the TV values on my camera change along with the iso and will not remain fixed.  Only in the M settings does TV values stay fixed.  So I was wondering if this is what I should be experiencing when shooting raw.

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on September 01, 2013, 10:10:58 PM
Ever tried to use your camera without ML?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on September 01, 2013, 10:56:14 PM
Ever tried to use your camera without ML?

Yes of course thanks for asking.  Just learning the behavior of ML for video as I was an early adopter with the T2i but mainly used the image functions for things like hdr.  Now raw video is interesting and have messed all weekend doing much of the same as reported here (trying different resolutions, comparing to the Canon MOV video.)  Nothing new to report except my work flow is:

PDR on the raw file
Extract to dngs
Used Bridge to bring into PS6
Edit in PS6 and save to TIF
Use either QuickTime or PS6 to render movie. 
 
So all is ok, really.

dave

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on September 01, 2013, 11:52:38 PM
jpg WILL deteriorate the quality.
I think you have lost rationality.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Labyrinth on September 02, 2013, 12:23:18 AM
When shooting ML raw, the TV values on my camera change along with the iso and will not remain fixed.  Only in the M settings does TV values stay fixed.
Presumably you're talking about recording movies because you mentioned needing it to stay at 60 in an earlier post. If so, I strongly recommend you either check your answer to a1ex's question or read page 170 if you have the English manual.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on September 02, 2013, 12:45:43 AM
For the record an 8 bit jpeg has by definition less information than the raw file. Still a lot more than H264 though, so you are both right....

On a side note, 650D will support proper dual iso. Say hi to as much DR as our friends at nikon :-)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on September 02, 2013, 01:05:21 AM
Presumably you're talking about recording movies because you mentioned needing it to stay at 60 in an earlier post. If so, I strongly recommend you either check your answer to a1ex's question or read page 170 if you have the English manual.
thank you :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on September 02, 2013, 07:38:12 AM
Hello dual iso!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 30dbs on September 02, 2013, 09:29:31 AM
For the record an 8 bit jpeg has by definition less information than the raw file. Still a lot more than H264 though, so you are both right....
On a side note, 650D will support proper dual iso. Say hi to as much DR as our friends at nikon :-)

Awesome news!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 30dbs on September 02, 2013, 09:38:56 AM
I think you have lost rationality.
=) maybe so, perhaps you can explain why it is called a lossy compression then if there is no loss?. All I was saying (and this would not have made his/your workflow anymore complex) is save to tiff or png instead, its absolutely no harder but gives you zero loss.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on September 02, 2013, 10:03:22 AM
Pink dot remover (v0.8 and v0.7 ) seems doesn't work on the RAW from the latest ML version (31.08.2013).

See my post in the PDR topic here : http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.msg72551#msg72551
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on September 02, 2013, 10:47:15 AM
Quote
Pink dot remover (v0.8 and v0.7 ) seems doesn't work on the RAW from the latest ML version (31.08.2013).

Don't know what are you talking about. Just tried latest PDR on 31.08 ML build and everything is just fine.

By the way, check out my fork of PDR, it has much less artifacts for now.
Source: https://github.com/Re-wind/PinkDotRemover/tree/ImprovedInterpolation
Binary and some info: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.msg70661#msg70661
PDR rewind 2 (http://moredo.ru/raw/PDR Rewind interp.7z)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on September 02, 2013, 11:10:25 AM
On a side note, 650D will support proper dual iso. Say hi to as much DR as our friends at nikon :-)

Ooo  they will be so jealous... And me so happy.... 
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on September 02, 2013, 11:25:41 AM
Don't know what are you talking about. Just tried latest PDR on 31.08 ML build and everything is just fine.

By the way, check out my fork of PDR, it has much less artifacts for now.
Source: https://github.com/Re-wind/PinkDotRemover/tree/ImprovedInterpolation
Binary and some info: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.msg70661#msg70661
PDR rewind 2 (http://moredo.ru/raw/PDR Rewind interp.7z)

Weird.
Here is a frame example which I can remove pink dots : https://copy.com/ULWAYsZ2Zb43
If you could try to remove them it would be nice.

(Extracted using RAW2DNG on the original RAW file. I also tried processing directly the RAW file in PinkDotRemover without success).
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on September 02, 2013, 11:37:00 AM
Yes, something wrong for sure. Have you tried another aspect ratio and/or resolution?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on September 02, 2013, 02:26:49 PM
In T4i to record video in 720p (1280x720), what do you need? What SD card should I use?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on September 02, 2013, 04:28:17 PM
Yes, something wrong for sure. Have you tried another aspect ratio and/or resolution?
Nope but I always use this resolution, and PDR 0.8 works great with same resolution files from an older ML version.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on September 02, 2013, 06:14:47 PM
Hello dual iso!

can someone please explain "dual iso"? sounds like something superior to which those dont own it.

In T4i to record video in 720p (1280x720), what do you need? What SD card should I use?

this ---->>> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/824140-REG/SanDisk_SDSDXPA_032G_A75_Extreme_Pro_32_GB.html
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Fuma on September 02, 2013, 06:25:23 PM
I have the same issue that the PDR wont work with Video Crop Mode, without Crop it works well.
The ML-Version i have used: ML_N_31.08.2013
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Yoshiboshi3 on September 02, 2013, 07:32:11 PM
Hey guys, I'm running a build I downloaded from the previous topic about a month or two ago. I'm on 1.0.1, my magic lantern firmware says it's V2.3 NEXT.2013Jul10.650D101. I'm sure I could find the file on my computer too if that helps.

What I want to know is, how do I update to the latest version of magic lantern? Am I going to have to upgrade to 1.0.4? I'm a total noob at this, just walk me through simply how to upgrade to the most recent build of magic lantern.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on September 02, 2013, 08:25:17 PM
this ---->>> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/824140-REG/SanDisk_SDSDXPA_032G_A75_Extreme_Pro_32_GB.html
Best way to waste money.
The 45MB/s Sandisk is fast enough.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on September 02, 2013, 08:27:16 PM
What I want to know is, how do I update to the latest version of magic lantern? Am I going to have to upgrade to 1.0.4? I'm a total noob at this, just walk me through simply how to upgrade to the most recent build of magic lantern.
Have a look at the first post of this thread.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on September 02, 2013, 08:31:27 PM
Quote
Best way to waste money.
The 45MB/s Sandisk is fast enough.

That's not true. Sandisk Extreme Pro 45 MB/s have a write speed around 21.2 MB/s. That's far from enough to shoot continuous 720p.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on September 02, 2013, 08:42:12 PM
That's not true. Sandisk Extreme Pro 45 MB/s have a write speed around 21.2 MB/s.
No the write speed is ~40 MB/s
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5780.msg56283#msg56283
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on September 02, 2013, 08:48:31 PM
Spider, don't misinform people )
There are different series of Sandisk Extreme cards. Those one 45 MB/s with “Pro” have write speed about 21 MB/s. That's fact.
Don't know about newer ones without “Pro” though. May be you are talking about them.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Fuma on September 02, 2013, 08:54:46 PM
This should work either: (write Speed up to 60MB/sec)

http://www.amazon.de/SanDisk-32GB-Extreme-SDXC-UHS/dp/B00D6Y0U8E/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1378147956&sr=8-17&keywords=sandisk+sd+extreme
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on September 02, 2013, 08:57:01 PM
Spider, don't misinform people )
There are different series of Sandisk Extreme cards. Those one 45 MB/s with “Pro” have write speed about 21 MB/s. That's fact.

Stop posting bullshit and klick on the link, I posted.
A sandisk 45MB/s is fast enough
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on September 02, 2013, 09:00:19 PM
Come on man, no need to be rude.

Let's make it clear.

This one is slow, don't buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-UHS-1-Memory-SDSDXP1-016G-X46/dp/B004JJN262

This one is good enough:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-Class-Memory-SDSDX-016G-AFFP/dp/B007M54E08

Just make sure you can tell the difference between these two:
(http://moredo.ru/raw/s_d.jpg)
because the right one has a write speed about 21MB/s (at least in 550D and 650D — may be some UDMA stuff, not sure)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: _DK_ on September 02, 2013, 09:02:57 PM
A Sandisk 45MB/s is fast enough. I use a 16GB version and I get 720p.

Benchmark I just did:
(http://s14.directupload.net/images/130902/wuc26lt9.png)

In case you think I am a liar, you can also look at the tests other buyers did... They are similar
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on September 02, 2013, 09:17:29 PM
I can confirm a SanDisk extreme 45MB/s (at least the 32GB version) is fast enough for 650d RAW.

A ML Benchmark gives performance around 40MB/s both in read/write (Max write : 41.3 MB/s, Max read  : 42.6 MB/s).
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on September 02, 2013, 09:19:10 PM
Hola, Raw 1728x576 no se aplico pinkdotremove  , solo se uso adobe dng conversión a tiff y color mas sony vegas 12 para video.

Hello, Raw 1728x576 pinkdotremove not apply, only use adobe dng to tiff conversion and color more sony vegas 12 for video.

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on September 02, 2013, 09:42:05 PM
guys some of you are acting as if rewind does this on purpose. Maybe he has an older model of the same card or maybe he knows of an older model which acually does that speed or maybe he doesnt! Say the things better if you know them but I really dont see the point of rudeness here?

Rewind thanks man for your contribution on this, really you all guys are amazing!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: RafaLibrenz on September 03, 2013, 03:28:17 AM
On a side note, 650D will support proper dual iso. Say hi to as much DR as our friends at nikon :-)

This is great news! :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Yoshiboshi3 on September 03, 2013, 04:06:51 AM
Have a look at the first post of this thread.

Do I have to remove my current build? Do I have to wipe my SD card again? Do I HAVE to update to 1.0.4?

Am I actually missing out on any features to begin with? If so, which ones?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on September 03, 2013, 10:56:04 AM
Yes, you are missing bug fixes that bot ML and Canon did to your camera.
To upgrade just follow the guide to the letter.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on September 03, 2013, 01:52:56 PM
Come on man, no need to be rude.

Let's make it clear.

This one is slow, don't buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-UHS-1-Memory-SDSDXP1-016G-X46/dp/B004JJN262

This one is good enough:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-Class-Memory-SDSDX-016G-AFFP/dp/B007M54E08

Just make sure you can tell the difference between these two:
(http://moredo.ru/raw/s_d.jpg)
because the right one has a write speed about 21MB/s (at least in 550D and 650D — may be some UDMA stuff, not sure)
I wanted to argue with Rewind until I clicked on the links he posted.  We are saying the same card is good.  Rewind is pointing out a bad card that might confuse people if we keep giving a "all 45MB/s cards are good" as I have also done.  Apparently the gold Pro 45 MB/s is an old, poor performing card.  Unless someone has this specific gold Pro 45MB/s card and gets better data rates, which would mean the 21MB/s is from a bad example.  From the language Rewind is using, I don't think this is the case.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on September 03, 2013, 09:52:40 PM
I wanted to argue with Rewind until I clicked on the links he posted.  We are saying the same card is good.  Rewind is pointing out a bad card that might confuse people if we keep giving a "all 45MB/s cards are good" as I have also done.  Apparently the gold Pro 45 MB/s is an old, poor performing card.  Unless someone has this specific gold Pro 45MB/s card and gets better data rates, which would mean the 21MB/s is from a bad example.  From the language Rewind is using, I don't think this is the case.

Please note that the red card is a class 10 card, and the gold is not.


Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: OpenMind on September 03, 2013, 10:02:53 PM
Please note that the red card is a class 10 card, and the gold is not.
Unlike this gold one, which is class 10 too...
The 32GB version is in my 650D and has a write speed around 40MB/s
(http://www.sandisk.com/assets/product/sd-sdsdxpa-016g.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on September 03, 2013, 10:05:45 PM
If that is true, inwould return it as is does not meet the standaards.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: OpenMind on September 03, 2013, 10:11:05 PM
If that is true, inwould return it as is does not meet the standaards.
Nothing wrong with it... the 650D is the bottleneck. I remember values from 39MB/s to 42MB/s in the ML card test.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: divxclub on September 04, 2013, 05:45:30 AM
Amazing work guys, with latest build 9/3 I managed to get CineStyle from Technocolor Picture profile in to camera wtih EOS Utility (it would not show camera before) And everything seems to be working now. One question if possible. Let's say I am on Movie dial and using User Default 3 profile. Then I  switch to Photo mode (while still in M) and all my setting  from Video are still there. Including TechnoColor Cinestyle picture profile under User Default 3 and shutter and iso ...etc. Now here is the question is it possible may be with ML to make Video and Photo settings independent. With some default that user can set or just whatever was last. Let's say if I had 100 ISO with 1/50 shutter as my last settings then play with photos and had it set to 1/125 at ISO 400 then switch back I'd have that 100 ISO at 1/50 shutter back just like I had it set before I switched to photo mode. I hope I make sense and this feature is not available and I am to dumb to find it.

Also a bit off topic. I am trying to get this "film" look with color grading and 50 mm 1.4 or 1.8 lens.  This TechnoColor Picture profile looks very interesting after all this people all they do is color for past 75 years, that's what I shoot and I also have this Premiere plug-in from Filmconvert Pro guys and we'll see what's going to happen. May be someone can recommend a program or plugin to NLE that works good, and in general any advice on this picture profile from TechnoColor ?

Sorry for off topic just I am working on this atm decided to share.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Wazy on September 04, 2013, 05:59:16 AM

On a side note, 650D will support proper dual iso. Say hi to as much DR as our friends at nikon :-)

Noob here, and yes I've searched through the forum for the answer but apparently not hard enough. Here's the question, how do you access the dual ISO after the module is turned on? I already rebooted the camera and still not there. Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on September 04, 2013, 06:50:37 AM
The changes have not been published yet. I need to do more tests to make sure everything is in order
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on September 04, 2013, 08:35:08 AM
Dvxclub, why would you the Technicolor profile when you can use raw?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on September 04, 2013, 10:35:38 AM
dual_iso is ready to play! (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/demgitqk7a6ixsv/rM-59PO2fQ/ML_N_04.09.2013.zip)
Have fun guys :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on September 04, 2013, 10:53:17 AM
dual_iso is ready to play! (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/demgitqk7a6ixsv/rM-59PO2fQ/ML_N_04.09.2013.zip)
Have fun guys :)

It seems there is an error with dual iso. When activated it write on top of the screen ~isoless error ph -2~

After though i rebooted the camera 2-3 times it seemed to work

and then  it started again, Something doesnt sit!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on September 04, 2013, 11:39:16 AM
Correct, I think I know where the catch is
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on September 04, 2013, 11:57:20 AM
also it doesnt let me change the iso other than 100. Everytime i try it goes back to 100!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on September 04, 2013, 12:11:15 PM
When? Where? What ISO? The base or the "recovery" ISO value?

LiveView? or Photo mode?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on September 04, 2013, 12:18:01 PM
When? Where? What ISO? The base or the "recovery" ISO value?

LiveView? or Photo mode?

The base iso on photo mode for sure, though havent tried live view yet
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: RafaLibrenz on September 04, 2013, 12:28:35 PM
The base iso on photo mode for sure, though havent tried live view yet

This is not the ETTR trying to make the measurement of light?
Happened to me. I had to wait for the ETTR finish your work.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on September 04, 2013, 12:44:33 PM
Iso base will change in liveview mode but not in photomode.
Iso base will not change even with dual iso off
and still will not change even with dual iso module Not loaded.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: RafaLibrenz on September 04, 2013, 12:45:21 PM
Guys, it's working here!

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rhnn6fQrxXg/UicMnuwKVgI/AAAAAAAAINs/Kt1awkJ24CY/w1383-h702-no/Test_000_dual_iso_100-1600.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nqUII0IvZhE/UicMoCcngbI/AAAAAAAAIN8/etdNeL49Psg/w1383-h702-no/Test_000_iso_100.jpg)

Thanks nanomad, satriani, a1ex and all development team of Magic Lantern! It's really awesome!!

P.S.: The "ISOless PH err(2)" is also appearing here. I do 'reboot' a few times until the message leave the screen.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on September 04, 2013, 12:52:43 PM
It seems the iso base mode is working fine again if i disable autoexpo mode though. but the dual iso problem remains.

Ok my bad with autoexpo! I just discovered what autoexpo does! I think the only problem is the one with the dual iso!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: roterrion on September 04, 2013, 06:07:18 PM
i left the forum for a week and there's dual iso now?  :o you guys working so fast.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on September 04, 2013, 07:23:29 PM
ISOless PH err(2)

i got this error after i turn dual iso "on"

what does it mean? cant make dual iso work...
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on September 04, 2013, 07:24:55 PM
Have anyone succesfully compiled the mlv_rec for 650D?
I've tried but no luck so far )
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Enay on September 04, 2013, 08:31:40 PM
Hello.

My test for Dual ISO on 650d. Excelent feature!

Normal ISO 100 still (unedited):
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/57396600/IMG_8503.jpg)

Dual ISO 100/3200 still (edited for the ground part to have similar brightness):
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/57396600/DUAL8504a.jpg)

The difference is clearly visible in dynamics.

Thanx Guys for Your work  :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on September 04, 2013, 08:34:16 PM
The way that looks...man i just might be shooting everything with dual iso....
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on September 04, 2013, 09:12:54 PM
ISOless PH err(2)

i got this error after i turn dual iso "on"

what does it mean? cant make dual iso work...

anyone having / had same issue?

edit: found it, using raw + jpeg mode solves it... i ve been using only raw mode.

edit2: it came again. damnit
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on September 04, 2013, 09:14:36 PM
anyone having / had same issue?

Had it a couple of times, few reboots, and it was gone.. 
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on September 04, 2013, 10:01:26 PM
@Enay: can you upload the original CR2? :D
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1% on September 04, 2013, 10:16:23 PM
People getting the photo error.. guess the regs change on this camera but on EOSM it never happens.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Wazy on September 05, 2013, 02:22:38 AM
Seems like I'm not the only one getting the ISOless Error. Now I can't seem to work around this. Hopefully there's a fix for this soon! Thanks for all the work thus far!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on September 05, 2013, 02:25:59 AM
Thanks all for reply my questions, and, i buy the SanDisk Extreme Pro  -  8GB, and, this value, what the time for recording in 720p on my 650D? Sorry for my english, iam brazilian. Thanks all!!!!!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: tonysaabyc on September 05, 2013, 02:47:57 AM
Hey, is there any way to install this on a 64gb card, or do I need to go to 32 or less?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on September 05, 2013, 03:20:51 AM
32gb believe will not be possible. Try a 16GB
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on September 05, 2013, 03:56:47 AM
Hey, who to use HDR and RAW? It is possible? HDR use Workflow whit virtualdub,etc... And RAW use Raw2DNG, help-me?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: RafaLibrenz on September 05, 2013, 03:59:39 AM
Hey, is there any way to install this on a 64gb card, or do I need to go to 32 or less?

Yes, there is a way. Search for "Installing Magic Lantern on other cards" here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/install.html
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: RafaLibrenz on September 05, 2013, 05:14:42 AM
anyone having / had same issue?

Same thing here. ISOless PH err(2). Sometimes I can make dual iso work, but most times not.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ejszarny on September 05, 2013, 08:38:26 AM
maybe a bug:
last day i try satrianis 09.03. build and intervalometer with bulb timer doesnt working, i set bulb and bulb timer to 45 sec, and later 2 min but all shots taken with 30 sec, and the expo setting always go to 30 sec from bulb. i set again bulb, and start inervalometer and bulb timer, and the result again: 30 sec.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: saha007 on September 05, 2013, 08:53:07 AM
where to find the help files? And how to install? It is desirable to Russian!... ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ERBUSI on September 05, 2013, 09:07:23 AM
Same thing here. ISOless PH err(2)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on September 05, 2013, 09:11:39 AM
maybe a bug:
last day i try satrianis 09.03. build and intervalometer with bulb timer doesnt working, i set bulb and bulb timer to 45 sec, and later 2 min but all shots taken with 30 sec, and the expo setting always go to 30 sec from bulb. i set again bulb, and start inervalometer and bulb timer, and the result again: 30 sec.

Did you use M?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ashkaptsov on September 05, 2013, 09:15:02 AM
ACHTUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A LOT OF FUNCTIONS DOESN'T WORK WITH MANUAL LENSES (Helious)

Even Global Draw doesn't work

CHECK IT OUT
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Enay on September 05, 2013, 10:21:54 AM
@Enay: can you upload the original CR2? :D

Here they are:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/57396600/enay_cr2.zip

 :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dalanz on September 05, 2013, 11:55:52 AM
Hey colleagues,
I would like to propose something in the intervalometer. Would it be possible to show a timer on the Liveview while shooting? I would like to know the remaining time to finish.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on September 05, 2013, 12:02:53 PM
ACHTUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A LOT OF FUNCTIONS DOESN'T WORK WITH MANUAL LENSES (Helious)

Even Global Draw doesn't work

CHECK IT OUT

O.o

upload a video where you have a manual lens attached and you go through ML menus. Did you remember to press the INFO button while in LV to clear Canon overlays?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on September 05, 2013, 12:04:05 PM
maybe a bug:
last day i try satrianis 09.03. build and intervalometer with bulb timer doesnt working, i set bulb and bulb timer to 45 sec, and later 2 min but all shots taken with 30 sec, and the expo setting always go to 30 sec from bulb. i set again bulb, and start inervalometer and bulb timer, and the result again: 30 sec.

Known bug with _all_ the models without a separate bulb mode. I've got an idea on what's causing it but need a bit of time to debug it properly
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: saha007 on September 05, 2013, 12:16:45 PM
ML\doc  - You open for editing? there is a desire to make Russification!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ERBUSI on September 05, 2013, 12:59:03 PM
ML_N_05.09.2013.zip to  ISOless PH err(2):
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on September 05, 2013, 01:51:02 PM
ML_N_05.09.2013.zip to  ISOless PH err(2):
нужно удалить настройки МЛ, через меню ML сделать сброс конфигурации (Prefs-Config file-Restore ML defaults), или удалил файл MAGIC.CFG из папку :\ML\settings

it is necessary to remove the ML settings, through the menu ML to make configuration restart (Prefs-Config file-Restore ML defaults), or I removed the MAGIC.CFG file from the folder: \ML \settings
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on September 05, 2013, 02:00:48 PM
where to find the help files? And how to install? It is desirable to Russian!... ;D
держи (http://www.videomax.ru/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50464&PID=1683165&title=canon-eos-650d#1683165) земляк

подскажите, а как пользоваться дуал исо,  фотографирует все и снимает ок, а как его потом на обработать и объединить?
prompt and how to use дуал исо, photographs everything and removes ok and how then on to process and unite it?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ashkaptsov on September 05, 2013, 02:15:27 PM
O.o

upload a video where you have a manual lens attached and you go through ML menus. Did you remember to press the INFO button while in LV to clear Canon overlays?


Oops excuse me, I just downloaded new version from 31.08.2013 Now it works, before it didn't work.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on September 05, 2013, 02:22:30 PM
подскажите, а как пользоваться дуал исо,  фотографирует все и снимает ок, а как его потом на обработать и объединить?
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7139.0
read the first post.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on September 05, 2013, 02:34:34 PM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7139.0
read the first post.
все работает спасибо!!!
everything works thanks! ! !
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ashkaptsov on September 05, 2013, 02:59:34 PM
In image review when I pres SET and turn scrollwheel nothing happens. don't work all settings (timelapse,exposure,compare)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Daniboy111 on September 05, 2013, 03:29:08 PM
Can tell you that rack focus doesn't seem to work on Canon 40mm STM 2.6 lens.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on September 05, 2013, 03:55:48 PM
In image review when I pres SET and turn scrollwheel nothing happens. don't work all settings (timelapse,exposure,compare)

Do you have a function associated to SET in photo mode via canon custom functions?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: anario on September 05, 2013, 04:30:30 PM
Rack focus does not work with my 18-135 STM lens either.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on September 05, 2013, 05:09:17 PM
Here they are:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/57396600/enay_cr2.zip

 :)

Now i need some help undersanding this.

I've tried editiding the original CR2 file and however i underxpose that picture or move the shadow and highlights faders I can never see all this details of clouds in the middle of the picture as you can see with the dual iso one.

The original picture is iso 100 right? I mean by iso 100 you get as much detail as you can on the light side. and by iso 3200 you get as much detaill as you can on the dark side. Right? How come after you cr2dhr the dual iso there is more detail on the bright side?? there are clouds that I can never see on the original picture! Wouldnt those clouds need lower iso than 100 to appear?

Edit* Nevernind I think i figure it out. It seems from ACR that on the dual iso one you lowered the shutter speed from 125 to 1600. The comparison is not all that fair after all!

But stll what an amazing feuture that is!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: liberty hound on September 05, 2013, 07:33:28 PM
hey guys, Im new to magic lantern. 1st question.. When i set the iso with magic lantern, does my metering meter for the magic antern iso or the canon ??
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ERBUSI on September 05, 2013, 10:08:20 PM
Hi,

anyone ever tried raw video with this card : http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/sd/extremepro-sdxc-sdhc-uhs-1-95mbs/?capacity=16GB

higher resolution like 1728x972 possible ?

Thanks, Lukas
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on September 05, 2013, 10:20:25 PM
Hi,

anyone ever tried raw video with this card : http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/sd/extremepro-sdxc-sdhc-uhs-1-95mbs/?capacity=16GB

higher resolution like 1728x972 possible ?

Thanks, Lukas

You can't go any faster then ~40MB/s because of SD controller hardware limit. Thus it doesn't matter what card are you using since it holds up this speed.
As for this one from your link, i have one. Works nice.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ejszarny on September 05, 2013, 10:32:00 PM
Did you use M?
yes, i always use Manual
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ejszarny on September 05, 2013, 10:41:06 PM
Known bug with _all_ the models without a separate bulb mode. I've got an idea on what's causing it but need a bit of time to debug it properly
thank you.

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on September 05, 2013, 10:48:05 PM
Anyway to get the help files to work with sitranis latest build? I have the PDF on the root of my SD card.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ERBUSI on September 05, 2013, 11:33:31 PM
You can't go any faster then ~40MB/s because of SD controller hardware limit. Thus it doesn't matter what card are you using since it holds up this speed.
As for this one from your link, i have one. Works nice.

Thanks Rewind, Best
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: tonysaabyc on September 06, 2013, 01:49:06 AM
For some reason I can only get live view through Canon's format (therefore I can not use ML's zebra and peaking).  Can anyone help me with this?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: elmatambre on September 06, 2013, 05:13:03 AM
Hello Iam very happy using this ML Alpha and NOW i like to used the dual iso ... I can read that in this forum. But I can found in the ML Menu. Can you help me to do that. Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ashkaptsov on September 06, 2013, 07:36:51 AM
Do you have a function associated to SET in photo mode via canon custom functions?

No, I don't. But also I checked if I switch on one of them it's same doesn't work
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Aborgh on September 06, 2013, 11:18:54 AM
My pictures with dual iso came out super strange  :-\

 (https://photos-5.dropbox.com/t/0/AABnmb1MfGUXdzKnNQLqIijP7B8cJlR3zJCC8YAr2s3Uhw/12/8266240/jpeg/1024x768/3/1378465200/0/2/IMG_6232.jpg/PC_7YMFlZcZmgbHga4sj8-ROHYKBPbNaiidh0vO2IgU)

Stripes along the picture and a boost of magenta in bright areas!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on September 06, 2013, 11:26:11 AM
My pictures with dual iso came out super strange  :-\

Did you even read this post? http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7139.0
Do you even know, what dual ISO is and what it's EOS implementation is intended to? http://acoutts.com/a1ex/dual_iso.pdf

Come on guys, give some respect to developers, read and learn something before post messages like this.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Aborgh on September 06, 2013, 11:32:03 AM
Did you even read this post? http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7139.0
Do you even know, what dual ISO is and what it's EOS implementation is intended to? http://acoutts.com/a1ex/dual_iso.pdf

Come on guys, give some respect to developers, read and learn something before post messages like this.

I'm such a noob.... Thanks Rewind!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: adrian2013 on September 06, 2013, 03:58:57 PM
hello guys,someone can help me please were i can find  audio trigger ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on September 06, 2013, 11:23:09 PM
Hey, who to use HDR and RAW? It is possible? HDR use Workflow whit virtualdub,etc... And RAW use Raw2DNG, help?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: adrian2013 on September 07, 2013, 12:08:16 AM
i have this issue on my display i have this error ISOless PH err(2) what shold i do
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on September 07, 2013, 01:22:38 AM
Played with DualISO took just a couple photos, looks amazing after being processed, cant wait to really explore and learn everything its able to do.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on September 07, 2013, 06:40:21 AM
i have this issue on my display i have this error ISOless PH err(2) what shold i do

I just cleared all my camera settings and it got fixed. However I haven't identified the main cause of the problem so far.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on September 07, 2013, 06:50:21 AM
Maybe it has to do with something like long exposure or noise reduction or HDR settings?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on September 07, 2013, 07:54:48 AM
I just cleared all my camera settings and it got fixed. However I haven't identified the main cause of the problem so far.

i found a temporary solution for that problem. i just reboot my camera like 10times and 1/10 i got a clean boot with no errors while dual iso is active. but it is annoying as hell. i beg for a permanent solution. please.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on September 07, 2013, 08:02:49 AM
i found a temporary solution for that problem. i just reboot my camera like 10times and 1/10 i got a clean boot with no errors while dual iso is active. but it is annoying as hell. i beg for a permanent solution. please.

Restarting the camera 10 times isn't a solution. (Despite the fact that I restarted my camera for like 20 times but the error was still there... ). And everything is the same when you boot up the camera, restart 10 times or 100 times. It must be something else that has fixed the issue for you..
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on September 07, 2013, 08:09:17 AM
Restarting the camera 10 times isn't a solution. (Despite the fact that I restarted my camera for like 20 times but the error was still there... ). And everything is the same when you boot up the camera, restart 10 times or 100 times. It must be something else that has fixed the issue for you..

nope. sometimes i got clean boot after 10restart, sometimes 20. but in the end i always find errorless start. but i dont know why it is happening. i also deleted the files inside settings folder of ML and cleared my cameras ML settings, that didnt work too.

it goes away only if i got a lucky start.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: adrian2013 on September 07, 2013, 10:50:15 AM
thank you guys i fiind the solution must turn off dual ISO
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: X-STATE on September 07, 2013, 11:05:09 AM
i have this issue on my display i have this error ISOless PH err(2) what shold i do
I also had this problem. I corrected this error removing the battery for 5 seconds. Error disappeared and module began to work correctly. But the next time the error appeared again and the way described above doesn't help  :o
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on September 07, 2013, 01:54:27 PM
thank you guys i fiind the solution must turn off dual ISO

turning Dual iso "off" is a solution for "error ISOless PH err(2)"  indeed.

now, i have one (1) question:

how can i use dual iso while it is turned off?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on September 07, 2013, 04:06:50 PM
turning Dual iso "off" is a solution for "error ISOless PH err(2)"  indeed.

now, i have one (1) question:

how can i use dual iso while it is turned off?

With the power of your mind
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Alquimia16 on September 07, 2013, 11:13:33 PM
Dual ISO raw video is CRAAAAAAZY looks so nice :o
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on September 08, 2013, 01:37:19 AM
thank you guys i fiind the solution must turn off dual ISO

You made my day man..
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: foorgol on September 08, 2013, 02:46:44 AM
I played around with dual ISO today and I also noticed the "ISOless...." error message. Whenever this message appeared, dual ISO didn't work, even if it was activated. Read: the cam took a normal picture.

More or less by coincidence I found out that the message did NOT appear and dual ISO worked like a charm if I started the cam in "P" mode. I tried it like 10 times or so and it was reproducible. On the other hand, if I booted the cam in A, T or M, the error kept popping up.

I used yesterday's build (Sep. 6).

Maybe booting in "P" works for you as well... Good Luck! :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: X-STATE on September 08, 2013, 08:34:29 AM
I played around with dual ISO today and I also noticed the "ISOless...." error message. Whenever this message appeared, dual ISO didn't work, even if it was activated. Read: the cam took a normal picture.

More or less by coincidence I found out that the message did NOT appear and dual ISO worked like a charm if I started the cam in "P" mode. I tried it like 10 times or so and it was reproducible. On the other hand, if I booted the cam in A, T or M, the error kept popping up.

I used yesterday's build (Sep. 6).

Maybe booting in "P" works for you as well... Good Luck! :)
Your method worked to correct the error. My algorithm:
1. turn off the camera in "M" mode
2. turn on in the "P" mode, and switch in "M" mode.
The error does not appear.
Not much is not convenient way, but I hope the developers will fix this in next builds.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: thurek on September 08, 2013, 11:06:59 AM
Hi,
is there a way to activate the arrow key shortcuts? Some kind of workaround for the missing "disp" button? Thanks, Thure
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nosemiguel on September 08, 2013, 01:38:21 PM
Hi,
is there a way to activate the arrow key shortcuts? Some kind of workaround for the missing "disp" button? Thanks, Thure

Yeah, under the Prefs menu go to Misc Key Setting and turn on the LCD sensor Shorcuts. Now the LCD sensor on your cam (just on top of the viewfinder) does what the Disp button does in the 600D.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: thurek on September 08, 2013, 06:40:48 PM
Thank's!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on September 08, 2013, 06:43:16 PM
I've wrote a tutorial about processing RAW files with After Effects and Camera RAW, you can find it here :
http://www.gna-productions.com/tutos/how-to-process-magic-lantern-raw-videos

I've also done some comparisons between RAW and H264 with different picture styles this week, if you're interested here is the video :
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 30dbs on September 08, 2013, 07:59:11 PM
I've wrote a tutorial about processing RAW files with After Effects and Camera RAW, you can find it here :
http://www.gna-productions.com/tutos/how-to-process-magic-lantern-raw-videos

I've also done some comparisons between RAW and H264 with different picture styles this week, if you're interested here is the video :

Great tutorial, and a nice video too, thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: EstChris on September 08, 2013, 10:12:25 PM
First of all I must say thanks to all the developers behind the Magic Lantern! Wonderful thing which have made me love even more filmmaking than I did before! Raw and Dual-ISO functions are just awesome. As a filmmaker I am fairly obsessed with the audio so I'm hoping to see some audio modifications (on-screen VU meters, USB audio out) soon in the future. I know it's not your priority but it's good to see that it's in your to-do list! :)

Best of luck, guys!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on September 09, 2013, 03:27:23 AM
I've wrote a tutorial about processing RAW files with After Effects and Camera RAW, you can find it here :
http://www.gna-productions.com/tutos/how-to-process-magic-lantern-raw-videos

I've also done some comparisons between RAW and H264 with different picture styles this week, if you're interested here is the video :


Dsagilles, you are my HERO!


I've been gone from the forum a couple weeks (wow, topic went from 15 pages to 23!) and I haven't got a chance to mess around with Magic Lantern.

You beat me to the test I wanted to do. Amazing that, even when the footage is expanded (and the Canon firmware footage scaled down) and then compressed for Youtube, the RAW video is the clear winner. Incredible. I really need to install this.


Okay guys, this is going to sound like a really dumb question, and some smart person will probably refer me to another topic I theoretically could have searched for, but I'll ask anway...

What is this "dual ISO" everyone keeps talking about? It sounds like it isn't working right now in this build, but people seem to think it is necesssary to RAW video.

I've read of how Magic Lantern allows Canon users to shoot an an ISO of 160, which some folks say is the "native" ISO of the camera or something like that. Is that what "Dual ISO" is?

Thanks guys again.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on September 09, 2013, 06:44:15 AM

Dsagilles, you are my HERO!


I've been gone from the forum a couple weeks (wow, topic went from 15 pages to 23!) and I haven't got a chance to mess around with Magic Lantern.

You beat me to the test I wanted to do. Amazing that, even when the footage is expanded (and the Canon firmware footage scaled down) and then compressed for Youtube, the RAW video is the clear winner. Incredible. I really need to install this.


Okay guys, this is going to sound like a really dumb question, and some smart person will probably refer me to another topic I theoretically could have searched for, but I'll ask anway...

What is this "dual ISO" everyone keeps talking about? It sounds like it isn't working right now in this build, but people seem to think it is necesssary to RAW video.

I've read of how Magic Lantern allows Canon users to shoot an an ISO of 160, which some folks say is the "native" ISO of the camera or something like that. Is that what "Dual ISO" is?

Thanks guys again.

it lets you shoot a single picture with two ISO settings so you get a better dynamic range, think HDR but this way works with even fast moving objects but you then have to process the image afterwards so that it looks normal and yes take a look at this thread ;)
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7139.0
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Granulated on September 09, 2013, 05:24:08 PM
Just installed.. No problems encountered so far apart from some annoyances with how certain messages overlay the GUI

Keep up the good work and massive thanks to all developers and testers.

:)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Alex N on September 09, 2013, 08:13:52 PM
Please add the audio tab
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on September 09, 2013, 10:23:35 PM
Hola, dual iso se dejo usar una sola ves y perfecto , se apago la cámara se prendio y no deja de salir el  error . Probe de varias formas y no hay caso. Es terrible como se ven las fotos con dual iso ,Saludos y mil gracias.

Hello, dual iso was allowed to use a single look and perfect, turned the camera is caught and does not leave out the error. Probe in various ways and there is no case. It's terrible as the photos are dual iso, Greetings and many thanks.

ML_N_09.09.2013
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ERBUSI on September 09, 2013, 10:27:01 PM
Just installed, ML_N_09,  in Photo modus (Manual) ISOless PH err(2):
Thank you for your efforts ...
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: imak on September 10, 2013, 01:22:59 AM
Someone mentioned earlier  that  you should start in P mode and then switch to manual.  Try that. 
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on September 10, 2013, 02:24:15 AM
Someone mentioned earlier  that  you should start in P mode and then switch to manual.  Try that.

Cierto , anda perfecto. Muchas gracias.

True, works perfectly. Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: RafaLibrenz on September 10, 2013, 10:30:49 AM
My 650D is with a strange symptom for a couple of weeks: When I turn on the camera, sometimes the display does not turn on. Everything works (flash, autofocus, shutter, photo, etc.), but the display just does not turn on. But after about 30 seconds (this may vary), the display turns on and no longer fails.

It also happens without card in SD slot (In other words: without Magic Lantern). I've reinstalled the official firmware, I already removed the magic lantern (turned off the bootflag), and the problem continues.

That does NOT seem to be a hardware failure, it seems to be something abnormal in boot.

Is anyone else having this problem?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on September 10, 2013, 01:34:03 PM
If it happens without ML it may be an issue with the display sensor. Try to clean it properly
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on September 10, 2013, 03:39:23 PM
My 650D is with a strange symptom for a couple of weeks: When I turn on the camera, sometimes the display does not turn on. Everything works (flash, autofocus, shutter, photo, etc.), but the display just does not turn on. But after about 30 seconds (this may vary), the display turns on and no longer fails.

It also happens without card in SD slot (In other words: without Magic Lantern). I've reinstalled the official firmware, I already removed the magic lantern (turned off the bootflag), and the problem continues.

That does NOT seem to be a hardware failure, it seems to be something abnormal in boot.

Is anyone else having this problem?

Yup I have that problem.  Two things that I noticed that explains it sometimes: 1) I have the eye piece extender and sometimes it moves up on its track and partially blocks the sensor. 2) when it is really dark.  But that does not explain all the occurrences and why I do not get the play back image after taking a shoot sometimes.  I know this is off topic here but thought I would say you are not alone :).

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: EstChris on September 10, 2013, 03:57:50 PM
What I've noticed is that sometimes when you're trying to film and press record button, the screen goes greenish/pinkish and lags/flickers terribly. When playing back recorded clip the same thing occurs (corrupted clip). However when you restart the camera, you can film normally, but the clip is still corrupted. It's not very bothering, but still an issue...
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: minlite13 on September 11, 2013, 01:57:57 AM
If it happens without ML it may be an issue with the display sensor. Try to clean it properly
Yeah, Im sure too that must be the display sensor.. Nothing else can cause the fail.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on September 11, 2013, 04:05:45 AM
HDR vs ISO... who wins?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: h18r on September 11, 2013, 05:04:36 AM
HDR vs ISO... who wins?

They are totally different. HDR for not moving subjects and gives you a wider range as ISO is best for moving subjects.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on September 11, 2013, 05:58:24 AM
They are totally different. HDR for not moving subjects and gives you a wider range as ISO is best for moving subjects.

and we have a version of HDR for fast moving subjects... Dual ISO ^_^
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: h18r on September 11, 2013, 02:10:38 PM
and we have a version of HDR for fast moving subjects... Dual ISO ^_^

He meant ISO as DUAL ISO :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on September 11, 2013, 02:43:32 PM
He meant ISO as DUAL ISO :)

Would not dual iso also win because it makes integrating externally recorded sound possible?  I use PowerDirector a lot and found a very nice way of integrating sound.  Will play with raw and dual iso this weekend. 


dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on September 11, 2013, 03:30:29 PM
What I've noticed is that sometimes when you're trying to film and press record button, the screen goes greenish/pinkish and lags/flickers terribly. When playing back recorded clip the same thing occurs (corrupted clip). However when you restart the camera, you can film normally, but the clip is still corrupted. It's not very bothering, but still an issue...

Hmm, let's hope this issue and the other display issues can be resolved soon!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Alquimia16 on September 11, 2013, 07:40:56 PM
Hola, dual iso se dejo usar una sola ves y perfecto , se apago la cámara se prendio y no deja de salir el  error . Probe de varias formas y no hay caso. Es terrible como se ven las fotos con dual iso ,Saludos y mil gracias.

Hello, dual iso was allowed to use a single look and perfect, turned the camera is caught and does not leave out the error. Probe in various ways and there is no case. It's terrible as the photos are dual iso, Greetings and many thanks.

ML_N_09.09.2013

Enciende la camara en P y pasas a M eso reduce el error. No es que las imagenes se vean mal solo que si no has leido el foro de dual iso, necesito hacerles un proceso para refinarlas. Justo ocmo RAW video o imagenes en HDR.
Tomate el tiempo de entender que es Dual ISO
Saludos

Look man put the camera on "P" then turn it to "M" that will reduce probablility of error. Also its not that pictures look "terrible" they arein fact AMAZING. The problem (just taking a wild guess) is you didnt read anything about dual iso and dont know that they need a post processing just like raw videos, and hrd stills. Dual iso cr files NEED post processing to "merge" the 2 different iso files taken.
Hope it helps
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on September 11, 2013, 08:59:24 PM
Enciende la camara en P y pasas a M eso reduce el error. No es que las imagenes se vean mal solo que si no has leido el foro de dual iso, necesito hacerles un proceso para refinarlas. Justo ocmo RAW video o imagenes en HDR.
Tomate el tiempo de entender que es Dual ISO
Saludos

Look man put the camera on "P" then turn it to "M" that will reduce probablility of error. Also its not that pictures look "terrible" they arein fact AMAZING. The problem (just taking a wild guess) is you didnt read anything about dual iso and dont know that they need a post processing just like raw videos, and hrd stills. Dual iso cr files NEED post processing to "merge" the 2 different iso files taken.
Hope it helps

Gracias, pero lo de terrible es igual buenísimo jajajajaj. Pero realmente para mi anda mejor con luz que sin ella, da mucho artefactos. Saludos.

Thanks, but what is equally terrific terrible hahaha. But really for me it works better with light without it, gives much artifacts. Greetings.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: _DK_ on September 11, 2013, 10:13:32 PM
Hi guys

I just stumbled upon something "weird". Whenever I use a HDMI monitor. If focus peaking is activated it gets me nothing but weird pink colored sections.
Is this a known error? Or is it just me again?   ???


Besides that the framing of RAW video is totally off with a monitor. (But I guess this is a known error)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kzi2006 on September 12, 2013, 07:35:49 AM
HDR vs ISO... who wins?

Every day on this topic only hdr, raw, dual iso etc.... bla-bla-bla. I never see the any useful real video with this features from that guys

WHEN audio meter comes to 650D?!!!! looks like NEVER((((( its a terrible disappointment for me (((
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: iphmrs on September 12, 2013, 12:49:36 PM
If you see the error message of "ISOless PH err", please start with P mode and then move to M mode.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Yeti183 on September 12, 2013, 01:23:28 PM
The trick with starting in P-Mode is not working with me, unfortunately.

Dual Iso worked flowless for 1 day. Than suddenly the ISOless error occured.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on September 12, 2013, 02:33:26 PM
When audio is enabled? I will post a video I made ​​myself of how to install magic lantern and how to make hdr, raw .... Hope you like it!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on September 12, 2013, 02:59:33 PM
Every day on this topic only hdr, raw, dual iso etc.... bla-bla-bla. I never see the any useful real video with this features from that guys

WHEN audio meter comes to 650D?!!!! looks like NEVER((((( its a terrible disappointment for me (((
Sell your 650D body, buy a 550D, stop complaining.  Doesn't have to be in that order.  If audio is so important that you come on every week or so to complain about it not being implemented, fix the problem yourself. Become a dev or buy a new camera.
Just because you don't think a feature is important doesn't mean that no one thinks it is important.  For what I do, I don't care about audio.  I'd prefer there not even be audio because I just have to remove it from every clip. 
The audio problem is much bigger than you think.  The devs aren't just holding it back for fun.  If I understand it right, the audio chip for the 650D & EOSM work completely differently from previous cameras.  Not just a different chip, but the code interfaces with it differently.  For the non-developer, that means it is a huge departure in how things are done.  It is not just finding out where the different registers are located, but what to shove into those registers to make things work.  There is work being done on audio, but it is not a simple problem as you seem to suggest. 
Nobody really cares if you are terribly disappointed that a free product hasn't implemented the one feature you care about.  There are others who want this feature as well and they also state their desire for this feature without the dramatic complaining.
Yes, I'm in a bad mood today.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on September 12, 2013, 03:26:34 PM
Calma ae amigão, estou falando em pt-br por que é complicado, todos esperam algo do ml para uma nova atualização, mas é tudo com calma, não precisamos ficar nervosos ou ficar mandando o cara ir se virando, aqui é uma comunidade! Vamos respeitar a opinião do outro ok???/

Plase translate! Langue is: PT - BR
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: iglemartin on September 12, 2013, 03:40:47 PM
Every day on this topic only hdr, raw, dual iso etc.... bla-bla-bla. I never see the any useful real video with this features from that guys

WHEN audio meter comes to 650D?!!!! looks like NEVER((((( its a terrible disappointment for me (((

reallyy??? really dude?? devs are on this project without any profit and you are complaining instead of support them and giving them some helpful feedback on what they are doing... buy another camera, but stop complaining. Please man...
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: MarlonSenanayake on September 12, 2013, 06:48:11 PM
Plzz can any one give me a download link
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on September 12, 2013, 07:55:42 PM
Plzz can any one give me a download link

Read the first page of this post. The links are there.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: adrian2013 on September 12, 2013, 10:46:22 PM
i have sd card from sony hc1 class 10 94 mb/s 16 gb and my problem is not reconigzed in my laptop but in camera working and another card work in my laptop someone can tell me please what should i do?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: 1% on September 12, 2013, 10:52:01 PM
Quote
WHEN audio meter comes to 650D?

Audio meters on EOSM are only active while recording... if you force them on it breaks play mode... I suspect 650D is the same. But dunno if nanomad added them to come on when recording to this camera.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: red5446 on September 12, 2013, 11:21:33 PM
crash log
ASSERT: err == SUCCESS
at GUI.c:679, task PropMgr
lv:0 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : v2.3.NEXT.2013Sep06.650D104
Mercurial changeset   : db3b7e1c3d59 (unified) tip
Built on 2013-09-06 09:32:33 UTC by [email protected]
Free Memory  : 208K + 3385K
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on September 12, 2013, 11:32:19 PM
This is my real first imagem in raw.

plz, comment ?


Image Original - RAW
(http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad352/lucawen/RawImgOriginal_zps53771dda.png)

Image Edited (Photoshop) - RAW

(http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad352/lucawen/RawImg_zps283eb358.png)

Thanks Magic lantern!!!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on September 12, 2013, 11:41:48 PM
crash log

What were you doing? how to reproduce?

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: iphmrs on September 13, 2013, 03:58:40 AM
If you see the error message of "ISOless PH err", please start with P mode and then move to M mode.
I have tested this trick many times. The body works in stable state.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on September 13, 2013, 08:49:49 AM
crash log
ASSERT: err == SUCCESS
at GUI.c:679, task PropMgr
lv:0 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : v2.3.NEXT.2013Sep06.650D104
Mercurial changeset   : db3b7e1c3d59 (unified) tip
Built on 2013-09-06 09:32:33 UTC by [email protected]
Free Memory  : 208K + 3385K

Uhm how  did it happen?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on September 13, 2013, 09:31:49 AM
someone can tell me please what should i do?

Get a decent cardreader like Kingston FCR-HS3 (recommended). If you want to travel light: FCR-MLG3 may be worth a try.

Ciao, Walter

PS: Look on the laptop's manufacturer site if a firmware/BIOS update is available. Maybe it will solve the issue (or not).
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: adrian2013 on September 13, 2013, 11:45:09 AM
Thx Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on September 13, 2013, 04:18:16 PM
I've shot a new RAW video, this time in MACRO style using a vintage Minolta 35-70mm lens.
I hope you'll enjoy it :
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: khurra on September 14, 2013, 01:40:09 AM
i have two of these and they still crap out on me. The highest reso i can do without it skipping frames is 1472 at 2.35 aspect ratio...

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: elmatambre on September 14, 2013, 04:29:04 AM
Sell your 650D body, buy a 550D, stop complaining.  Doesn't have to be in that order.  If audio is so important that you come on every week or so to complain about it not being implemented, fix the problem yourself. Become a dev or buy a new camera.
Just because you don't think a feature is important doesn't mean that no one thinks it is important.  For what I do, I don't care about audio.  I'd prefer there not even be audio because I just have to remove it from every clip. 
The audio problem is much bigger than you think.  The devs aren't just holding it back for fun.  If I understand it right, the audio chip for the 650D & EOSM work completely differently from previous cameras.  Not just a different chip, but the code interfaces with it differently.  For the non-developer, that means it is a huge departure in how things are done.  It is not just finding out where the different registers are located, but what to shove into those registers to make things work.  There is work being done on audio, but it is not a simple problem as you seem to suggest. 
Nobody really cares if you are terribly disappointed that a free product hasn't implemented the one feature you care about.  There are others who want this feature as well and they also state their desire for this feature without the dramatic complaining.
Yes, I'm in a bad mood today.

me something I can add to this but if the problem is the audio for you, the solution is easy. It adds a microphone zoom1 or other like that starting from 100 uss
And besides you have to have a little more respect for the arduous work that boys do Magic Lantern
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on September 14, 2013, 07:46:56 AM
El último update anda muy bien tanto raw(no más dots) como dual iso, Excelente mil gracias y continúen así.  Saludos, Gerardo.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: coco_net on September 14, 2013, 08:13:31 AM
El último update anda muy bien tanto raw(no más dots) como dual iso, Excelente mil gracias y continúen así.  Saludos, Gerardo.
De 960 x 540 para abajo siguen apareciendo los puntos rosas. En 960 x 540 los puedo eliminar bien con PinkDotRemover. Cuando capturo en 864 x 486 no los puedo eliminar
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on September 14, 2013, 08:46:21 AM
I have a request could someone make a custom grid overlay that is of the "Fibonacci Spiral" maybe include 4 versions of it being flipped around a few times? If its not worth wild or you have your reasons for not then I understand, it was only a request. :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on September 14, 2013, 10:19:45 AM
I have a request could someone make a custom grid overlay that is of the "Fibonacci Spiral" maybe include 4 versions of it being flipped around a few times? If its not worth wild or you have your reasons for not then I understand, it was only a request. :)
What? It's already there in cropmarks, PHIPHOTO.BMP and PHIVIDEO.BMP
You can easily flip them around by yourself using any graphics editor.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: oli650d on September 14, 2013, 11:44:33 AM
you have done a wonderful job
congratulations
 ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: oli650d on September 14, 2013, 11:52:40 AM
why double iso and pink?
 :-\
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on September 14, 2013, 12:49:53 PM
You are not making much sense...try explaining yourself a bit
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: oli650d on September 14, 2013, 01:45:55 PM
when I take a picture by double iso
Photo and pink
or blue with stripes
on the screen of apareil
and I do not just play them on my pc with canon software
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on September 14, 2013, 02:45:02 PM
when I take a picture by double iso
Photo and pink
or blue with stripes
on the screen of apareil
and I do not just play them on my pc with canon software

You better speak your native language (french I suppose) and double your post with google translation.
I think you are talking about dual ISO shots, and you just don't know how to process them.
If so, you have to study the first post of this thread: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7139.0
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: oli650d on September 14, 2013, 03:14:15 PM
ok merci Rewind
  :D
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on September 14, 2013, 04:11:21 PM
De 960 x 540 para abajo siguen apareciendo los puntos rosas. En 960 x 540 los puedo eliminar bien con PinkDotRemover. Cuando capturo en 864 x 486 no los puedo eliminar
Hola coco , consulta para que necesitas ese tipo de resolución ? . El avances es significativo .. los dngs  son mas limpios que los anteriores pero realmente tener esas mejoras para grabar en esas resolución o menos .. no le veo sentido . Contame , saludos ,Gerardo
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on September 14, 2013, 07:10:07 PM
What? It's already there in cropmarks, PHIPHOTO.BMP and PHIVIDEO.BMP
You can easily flip them around by yourself using any graphics editor.

ahh see when I was going though the crop marks and got to phil nothing was showing up in the preview of it lol so I didnt think it was that, my bad. so if we wanted to make custom ones, all we have to is upload them to the same folder, well thats good to know. :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on September 14, 2013, 08:48:46 PM
Have anyone tried to compile mlv_rec for 650D?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on September 14, 2013, 09:40:59 PM
Have anyone tried to compile mlv_rec for 650D?

no tengo idea que es eso , que es y para que sirve?


I have no idea what that is, it is and is it for?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on September 14, 2013, 10:31:17 PM
I have no idea what that is, it is and is it for?
Magic Lantern Video format
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7122.0
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on September 15, 2013, 06:49:17 AM
Magic Lantern Video format
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7122.0

Gracias , ahí entendí lo de mlv_rec ,pero para 650D no esta implementado no? . Y ciento decir que los puntos rosas donde no tenia volvieron por arte de magia. Que cambio, no se pero algo cambia resete el ML , borre todo por completo de la tarjeta SD coloque el mismo Build y los puntos están ahí. A esperar a ver que sucede . Saludos.

Thanks, I understood what the mlv_rec there, but not 650D is not implemented? . And percent say the pink dots where there had magically returned. That change, but not the ML resete something changes, completely erase all SD card place the same Build and points are there. A wait and see what happens. Greetings.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on September 15, 2013, 04:28:37 PM
I've shot a new RAW video, this time in MACRO style using a vintage Minolta 35-70mm lens.
I hope you'll enjoy it :

Another excellent video dsagilles!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: red5446 on September 15, 2013, 11:21:29 PM
crash log with dual iso activated. start the camera in some flash mode after some ph error
Sat Sep 14 19:29:10 2013
      0:    33.042 [STARTUP]
K301 ICU Firmware Version 1.0.4 ( 5.6.4 )
      1:    33.073 [STARTUP]
ICU Release DateTime 2013.04.16 08:40:21
      2:    35.149 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 0)
      3:    35.175 [STARTUP] startupEntry
      4:    35.251 [PROPAD] PROPAD_CreateFROMPropertyHandle DRAMAddr 0x42000000
      5:    35.947 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x10000
      6:    46.434 [STARTUP] InitializeIntercom
      7:    46.687 [STARTUP] InitializeIntercom End(0x0)
      8:    51.462 [PROPAD] ERROR SearchFromProperty DataType = 0x00000000(L:2673)
      9:    51.620 [PROPAD] ERROR SearchFromProperty DataType = 0x00000000(L:2673)
     10:    51.644 [PROPAD] ERROR SearchFromProperty DataType = 0x00000000(L:2673)
     11:    51.746 [PROPAD] ERROR SearchFromProperty DataType = 0x00000000(L:2673)
     12:    51.803 [PROPAD] ERROR SearchFromProperty DataType = 0x00000000(L:2673)
     13:    51.823 [PROPAD] ERROR SearchFromProperty DataType = 0x00000000(L:2673)
     14:    51.847 [PROPAD] ERROR SearchFromProperty DataType = 0x00000000(L:2673)
     15:    51.870 [PROPAD] ERROR SearchFromProperty DataType = 0x00000000(L:2673)
     16:    51.891 [PROPAD] ERROR SearchFromProperty DataType = 0x00000000(L:2673)
     17:    51.911 [PROPAD] ERROR SearchFromProperty DataType = 0x00000000(L:2673)
     18:    51.933 [PROPAD] ERROR SearchFromProperty DataType = 0x00000000(L:2673)
     19:    51.954 [PROPAD] ERROR SearchFromProperty DataType = 0x00000000(L:2673)
     20:    52.023 [PROPAD] ERROR SearchFromProperty DataType = 0x00000000(L:2673)
     21:    52.095 [PROPAD] ERROR SIZE SetPropertyData ID (0) = 0x02060019(24)(8)
     22:    52.132 [PROPAD] ERROR SearchFromProperty DataType = 0x00000000(L:2673)
     23:    52.190 [PROPAD] ERROR SIZE SetPropertyData ID (0) = 0x0206001A(24)(8)
     24:    52.227 [PROPAD] ERROR SearchFromProperty DataType = 0x00000000(L:2673)
     25:    52.283 [PROPAD] ERROR SIZE SetPropertyData ID (0) = 0x0206001B(24)(8)
     26:    52.316 [PROPAD] ERROR SearchFromProperty DataType = 0x00000000(L:2673)
     27:    52.371 [PROPAD] ERROR SIZE SetPropertyData ID (0) = 0x0206001C(24)(8)
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    111:   292.083 [LVDTS] WARN First Get DTS_GetAllRandomData
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    113:   294.259 [LVDTS] WARN First Get DTS_GetAllRandomData
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    123:   307.145 [LVDTS] WARN First Get DTS_GetAllRandomData
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Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on September 16, 2013, 12:17:43 PM
Another excellent video dsagilles!
Thanks !

I'll do some dual ISO test soon.

I've also upload a timelapses compilation I've shot this summer :
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on September 16, 2013, 01:23:25 PM

I've also upload a timelapses compilation I've shot this summer :


very abruptly, good fellow. !! !
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: h18r on September 16, 2013, 02:59:52 PM
I'll do some dual ISO test soon.

I've also upload a timelapses compilation I've shot this summer :

Hi! Can you provide us your workflow/camera settings you used for those timelapses? That would be great! Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: imak on September 16, 2013, 09:04:41 PM
Thanks !

I'll do some dual ISO test soon.

I've also upload a timelapses compilation I've shot this summer :

Is there any special reason why the video is not available for mobile phones?  I believe that many people  (like myself) uses a smartphone or tablet to visit this forum and it would be great to be able to access it from anywhere.  Thanks. 
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on September 16, 2013, 09:07:24 PM
Just watched it on my iPhone. No problem.

Looks very nice btw
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: delorossa on September 17, 2013, 03:26:20 PM
hi,where is the downlod or update History for the Canon 650D 1.0.4 Alpha on the first page???
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: avramidis3d on September 17, 2013, 03:34:23 PM
Probably moved to the forum. You can download them from here: http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on September 17, 2013, 05:21:21 PM
Probably moved to the forum. You can download them from here: http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/

no Works , seems
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: big phill on September 17, 2013, 06:53:13 PM
I want to use magic lantern with my t4i, and I am aware that it is in the alpha stages. I am looking at the steps to prepare my camera and it states to reset settings to default. If I click "clear all camera settings, will that also reset the "numbering" of the images on my camera. I don't want to reset the actual numbers to my pictures and videos if I can help it.  I want to use magic lantern, mostly for time lapse and audio controls (which I know is not available as of yet).  I also want to clarify why I don't want to rename/renumber my images/video (in camera), it's due to archiving them in aperture.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on September 17, 2013, 09:44:15 PM
It will not reset the picture name.
But if the name is resetted, copy the last picture to the card and the camera will start at the old number.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: big phill on September 17, 2013, 10:37:55 PM
thanks "spider"
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Smolder on September 18, 2013, 12:05:21 PM
Im shure i missed somthing but  DotTune on the 650 i cant find it  ???
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: delorossa on September 18, 2013, 01:07:12 PM
Why has the FILE, the Name v2.3??? is that a Stable Version or i got the False Build Version for my canon 650D ?

magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Sep18.650D104.zip
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on September 18, 2013, 02:20:25 PM
The Version isv 2.3.NEXT.2013Sep18
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kostasra on September 18, 2013, 05:58:20 PM
Check this!!!

650d doesn't exist from Canon site....

http://www.canon-europe.com/Search/index.aspx

http://www.canon-europe.com/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_SLR/beginners/index.aspx

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dalanz on September 18, 2013, 06:44:28 PM
Check this!!!

650d doesn't exist from Canon site....

http://www.canon-europe.com/Search/index.aspx

http://www.canon-europe.com/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_SLR/beginners/index.aspx


The answer is very easy: 650D = 700D and more $$$$
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: vrundel on September 18, 2013, 08:42:46 PM
Guys, I've only registered right now because I wanted to thank someone for this amazing work!

I had a version from last week or so and the zoom function in review mode didn't work (Entry "Hold->Play" in ML menu). I then updated to the version of today... and it works!! This feature alone is so amazing... zooming after taking a shot with only one click of a button.

Thanks!! :-*
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: big phill on September 18, 2013, 08:46:15 PM
I did all the steps and it looked fine. It stated that Magic lantern was loaded. I cut off the camera, turned it back on and my "menu" looks exactly the same. What did I do wrong.  Using t4i with battery grip.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: vrundel on September 18, 2013, 08:52:16 PM
Press the trash can button
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on September 18, 2013, 09:13:29 PM
Check this!!!

650d doesn't exist from Canon site....

http://www.canon-europe.com/Search/index.aspx

http://www.canon-europe.com/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_SLR/beginners/index.aspx

same for USA site but thats on their product page since the T5i is the T4i with minor cosmetic changes, they want to push the T5i sales so they dropped the T4i, but just like on both USA and Europe you can still put in the search box T4i or 650D and you will find the product page for it.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mkdevo on September 18, 2013, 09:34:32 PM
Hey all,

Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere, but I searched and couldn't find anything.

I finally installed ML on my T4i last night, and everything seemed to go well. But is it normal for the Exposure Level Indicator on the LCD to obstruct the bottom of the ML screen? Any way to get rid of this?

See here:
(http://i.imgur.com/fsJ2OQn.jpg)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on September 18, 2013, 09:41:55 PM
Yup a problem and there is good info under there.  However, I believe this is on of the issues mentioned on the first post that is difficult to address.  I may be wrong but I think this is right.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on September 18, 2013, 10:14:04 PM
Hey all,

Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere, but I searched and couldn't find anything.

I finally installed ML on my T4i last night, and everything seemed to go well. But is it normal for the Exposure Level Indicator on the LCD to obstruct the bottom of the ML screen? Any way to get rid of this?

See here:
(http://i.imgur.com/fsJ2OQn.jpg)

Thanks!

Yup a problem and there is good info under there.  However, I believe this is on of the issues mentioned on the first post that is difficult to address.  I may be wrong but I think this is right.

go to your live view screen and press info until no overlays appear and its just the video feed, now go back into your ML menu and the issue is gone.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mkdevo on September 18, 2013, 11:12:04 PM
go to your live view screen and press info until no overlays appear and its just the video feed, now go back into your ML menu and the issue is gone.

Excellent! Thank you!

Something else that I didn't see until running some tests just now - Do I need to put the ML files onto ALL of my SD cards? It would seem so, but I was under the impression that once the initial installation was done, ML was on your camera. But I just swapped SD cards and see that I can't access ML anymore.

Just want to confirm.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on September 18, 2013, 11:13:57 PM
Once you set the bootflag on your camera, that is always set, but your camera loads ML from the SD card every time it boots.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on September 19, 2013, 02:45:29 AM
Are zebras supposed to work with ML negative iso? With the latest build zebras don't work with negative iso.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on September 19, 2013, 03:40:28 AM
Are zebras supposed to work with ML negative iso? With the latest build zebras don't work with negative iso.

Hi, tenes razón esta invertido . Ni idea si eso debería ser asi. Saludos

Hi, you're right is invested. No idea if that should be so. regards
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on September 19, 2013, 03:41:11 AM
Are zebras supposed to work with ML negative iso? With the latest build zebras don't work with negative iso.
Negative iso? do you have access to a black hole? last I checked there is no such thing as negative iso but if now there is by all means do tell :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Tongotongo on September 19, 2013, 04:17:41 AM
Negative iso? do you have access to a black hole? last I checked there is no such thing as negative iso but if now there is by all means do tell :)

Creo se refiere a que dual ISO esta 800/400 antes era 400/800 . Creo que se refiere a eso.

I refer to this dual ISO 800/400 before was 400/800. I think he means that.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on September 19, 2013, 09:24:32 AM
Possible bug: when using a custom ISO or rather one not already defined by Canon say for example ISO 160, when viewing through the canon firmware it shows the ISO 160 mis-aligned from where it is normally listed, Im on build 2013-09-18 17:54:47 -0700.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on September 19, 2013, 09:29:35 AM
Yes the overlay is a little bit off.
But it is just a cosmetic problem.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on September 19, 2013, 04:18:08 PM
using ML digital iso with a negative value the histogram does not properly show clipped channels and zebras do not work.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on September 19, 2013, 04:20:52 PM
They do, but it's your job to do the math and change the thresholds.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on September 19, 2013, 04:26:31 PM
They do, but it's your job to do the math and change the thresholds.

Thank you, my mistake. I'll check the manual and see if I can set the thresholds.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on September 19, 2013, 04:48:25 PM
Hi! Can you provide us your workflow/camera settings you used for those timelapses? That would be great! Thanks

I shot mainly in RAW or RAW HDR with my 32GIG memory card.
For night I've used 10sec exposure ISO 100 and my 50mm prime lens at f/1.9 for the shot with the city, and same parameters but with ISO 400 for the one with the tree and stars. 10sec exposure is the limit, after that the star's motion is too much visible. I set something like 12sec of intervals between pictures.
The day time-lapses was shot between 1 and 5sec intervals. For HDR, when the dynamic is high I used the Magic Lantern bracketing, which can be much higher (+5 - 5eV) than the Canon one (-2 +2eV), but ML Bracketing speed is also slower than the Canon one, which might be a problem with "fast" motions.

I used After Effect to output 1080p 8bit lossless video of each time-lapses, color-graded direct at import with Adobe Camera Raw for most of them.
For HDR, sometimes I used 3 AFx layers with each of the bracketing I compose by using a luma-key, sometimes I used ginger HDR merger to create a full range exr file. But i'm not good at HDR compositing for the moment.

After that, I just have to edit the final video using Premiere !
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: alexrow on September 19, 2013, 06:45:54 PM
Hello,

first of all I would like to thank you all for your wonderful work. I used ML on my old 550D and now I've installed it on my new 650D. Today I shot a timelapse with fps override (2 FPS, High Jello) and I found an issue: the video is full of vertical parallel lines. Any clues?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on September 19, 2013, 07:02:20 PM
Anyone know what to set the threshold to so zebras and histogram clip warning work with digital iso? I can't seem to figure it out, i'm using digital iso set to -0.3 so I can get iso 160 etc.. Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on September 19, 2013, 07:08:34 PM
Today I shot a timelapse with fps override (2 FPS, High Jello) and I found an issue: the video is full of vertical parallel lines. Any clues?
It is a known DIGIC5 Problem.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: alexrow on September 19, 2013, 07:19:48 PM
It is a known DIGIC5 Problem.

Thanks for you reply. So is there a workaround?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on September 19, 2013, 07:51:49 PM
Thanks for you reply. So is there a workaround?
Don't use fastTv
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: alexrow on September 19, 2013, 08:01:30 PM
Don't use fastTv

Thanks for your kindness :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on September 19, 2013, 08:02:10 PM
Bug?
Set camera to mode M and 15s shutter speed
Select Advanced Bracket; EV Increment 2EV


Start Advanced Bracket
First picture is taken normal, second with longer exposure gives a loop of:
1.Exposure starts and bulb timer appeares for 2 seconds
2.Exposure stops, timer disappears, led blinks
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on September 19, 2013, 08:04:24 PM
Is bulb timer working?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on September 19, 2013, 08:20:27 PM
Yes it works, and I think I made a mistake.
Because the timer disappeared and the LED blinked short and fast, I thought the camera froze.
So I unconsciously pressed the shutter and stopped the exposure.
Sorry.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mymate on September 20, 2013, 02:16:02 PM
Hey,

Just installed ML last night and so far I've been loving all the new features so thanks to the team for a great addon! I'll greatly welcome the audio functionality when its done :)

Couple of things I wanted to know. What is the native ISO level of the sensor because I'm now seeing 160 intervals so I'm assuming I should be using those?

How stable is RAW for 650d? I had a quick play about and it looks great. I believe 720p/30 is the best we can expect?

One more thing... do most people here set the bit rate to 1.4x max to squeeze out as much quality as possible? Im using a  SanDisk 32GB Extreme SD Card (SDHC) 45MB/s - Class 10

Sorry if these are noobish questions.

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: logan15 on September 20, 2013, 03:53:15 PM
Hi Guys,

Sorry for this, but where can i find the 650D.104.installer.fir file?
i've looked up the alpha builds link which led me to this fourm.
i've downloaded the nightly builds which only holds the ML library and autoexec.bin file
feel a little ashemed to post such a question here  :-[
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mymate on September 20, 2013, 04:04:11 PM
Hi Guys,

Sorry for this, but where can i find the 650D.104.installer.fir file?
i've looked up the alpha builds link which led me to this fourm.
i've downloaded the nightly builds which only holds the ML library and autoexec.bin file
feel a little ashemed to post such a question here  :-[

It's in the first post of this thread in a zip file
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: logan15 on September 20, 2013, 04:35:52 PM
It's in the first post of this thread in a zip file

Thanks!!!!
I thought it was just the first nightly build from the 3rd of aug  ::)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jjlink on September 20, 2013, 06:02:59 PM
It's in the first post of this thread in a zip file
I extracted the contents of that zip file from the first post of this thread to the root of my SD card; then the camera tried to do the update using but said it could not find the update. I had to take the battery out. So was I supposed to add some other files before trying the update?
Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mymate on September 20, 2013, 06:13:44 PM
I extracted the contents of that zip file from the first post of this thread to the root of my SD card; then the camera tried to do the update using but said it could not find the update. I had to take the battery out. So was I supposed to add some other files before trying the update?
Thanks

Format your card with fat32 then extract this zip file into the root of your memory card.

http://nanomad.magiclantern.fm/650D/magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug03.650D104.zip

Then format card again and download latest nightly into root of your card.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jjlink on September 20, 2013, 07:24:32 PM
I extracted the contents of that zip file from the first post of this thread to the root of my SD card; then the camera tried to do the update using but said it could not find the update. I had to take the battery out. So was I supposed to add some other files before trying the update?
Thanks

OK, I got it working, Thanks. :D
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on September 20, 2013, 07:26:21 PM
Anyone know what to set the threshold to so zebras and histogram clip warning work with digital iso? I can't seem to figure it out, i'm using digital iso set to -0.3 so I can get iso 160 etc.. Thanks.

Anybody?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: delorossa on September 21, 2013, 12:37:58 AM
And where r the nightlys?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ejszarny on September 21, 2013, 12:49:16 AM
installed sept. 19 release, and intervalometer and advanced bracketing soes not work.
setting up intervalometer 3s adv br. 3 pic and no one pic taking. intervalometer sounting but no pic taken :(
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on September 21, 2013, 03:19:22 PM
Guys, what write speeds are you able to get with yours 650d? I mean when recoeding raw video.
I've noticed, that fast sd cards benchmarks are about 41 MB/s (SD controller limit), but the actual speed is never goes higher than 37,4 — 37,5 MB/s. Why is that?
For example those friends with 6D states that their speeds are about 40 — 40,1 MB/s.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: learningforever on September 21, 2013, 04:54:54 PM
And where r the nightlys?

On the home page there's a "Download" link which takes you there.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Jokemeister on September 22, 2013, 03:11:06 AM
Thanks for all the hard work.

Observations with nightly build version magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Sep21.650D104
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on September 22, 2013, 09:50:07 PM
question, is it possible to shift ISO levels while the shutter remains open? like for example say at night I wanted to use a flash and an ISO of 400 but then after the flash goes drop the iso back to 100 to only capture the light from the fire... is something like that possible?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on September 23, 2013, 05:44:30 AM
Well folks, after having some frustrating results with more H.264 video out of my 650D, I finally went and installed Magic Lantern (finally, haha!).

It's a little daunting, and I'm sure I'll have many questions tomorrow, but before I flood this one, is there another thread for getting started with ML with the 650D that I could post questions to, or is this THE thread, haha?

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on September 23, 2013, 10:20:48 AM
when the change log is empty does that imply nothing has changed in the build yet?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on September 23, 2013, 11:01:47 AM
Correct, no changes since the last build
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on September 23, 2013, 08:11:56 PM
Correct, no changes since the last build

cool thats what I figured, thanks :)

Also LOVE LOVE LOVE the new ML font, so much easier to read and see :)

another question, when it comes to the nightly, is only modules that have tested and known to work being included with the builds? I just ask because I see talks of other modules in different parts of the forum that I dont see in these builds, so I was just curious.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kovacm on September 24, 2013, 10:32:51 AM
so is there any chance to implement sRAW (mRAW) feature of more expensive cameras into 650D ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on September 24, 2013, 10:37:46 AM
so is there any chance to implement sRAW (mRAW) feature of more expensive cameras into 650D ?

I think there was some mention of issues with this but not 100% sure on this... Oh I think it was because you can take silent pictures which is like half the resolution of a normal raw but in dng form that there wasnt a point to add a mRaw and sRaw....
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jeffadkins51 on September 25, 2013, 05:18:39 AM
installed sept. 19 release, and intervalometer and advanced bracketing soes not work.
setting up intervalometer 3s adv br. 3 pic and no one pic taking. intervalometer sounting but no pic taken :(

Does anyone know if this has been resolved yet? I'm scared to update since the advanced bracketing is the main ML feature that I use ^^

I'm also wondering if that release was taken down since it was reported by him to be "broken", he said sept. 19 release but the newest I see is from the 18th..
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on September 25, 2013, 05:56:44 AM
Hey folks, I've been playing around with Magic Lantern on my 650D, and I have a few questions (not simply about this build, but Magic Lantern functionality)

I apologize in advance for the generality of these questions (they may not be specific enough for this topic) and if there is a better forum to ask these in, please refer me!

1) Status of Pink Dot Remover/Raw Therapee: I already posted this in the Pink Dot Removal thread, but I figured I'd post it here as well. Raw Therapee runs extremely slow/laggy on my new Mac and crahses frequently. It also doesn't seem to remove pink dots!

Is anyone else here using a Mac? I'm hoping for a solution. I am following GNA's tutorial on processing RAW video, and it seems on his PC he's able to process the .RAW file in the Pink Dot Removal Tool BEFORE using raw2dng.

On Mac, Raw Therapee doesn't seem to be able to open .RAW, so I first used raw2dng, opened up the DNG's in Raw Therapee, and attempted to use the Hot/Dead Pixel Fixer, but this seemed to do nothing.


2) A simple question, but...I know that the Magic Lantern menu can be accessed by pushing the "trash" icon, but how does one simply jump from the menu to Live Video View? Often, if I press the shutter button, it opens up the Canon live view (instead of the Magic Lantern Live View). What button exits the Magic Lantern menu/settings?


Thanks in advance for the answers, folks!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on September 25, 2013, 06:20:10 AM
Does anyone know if this has been resolved yet? I'm scared to update since the advanced bracketing is the main ML feature that I use ^^

I'm also wondering if that release was taken down since it was reported by him to be "broken", he said sept. 19 release but the newest I see is from the 18th..

I know I am having some issues when I manually select how many photos to take, if I leave it on Auto for the number of pics to be taken it works great but when I pick say 5 instead of bracketing it just burst out 5 photos.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: C_you on September 25, 2013, 01:50:13 PM
Hey folks, I've been playing around with Magic Lantern on my 650D, and I have a few questions (not simply about this build, but Magic Lantern functionality)

I apologize in advance for the generality of these questions (they may not be specific enough for this topic) and if there is a better forum to ask these in, please refer me!

1) Status of Pink Dot Remover/Raw Therapee: I already posted this in the Pink Dot Removal thread, but I figured I'd post it here as well. Raw Therapee runs extremely slow/laggy on my new Mac and crahses frequently. It also doesn't seem to remove pink dots!

Is anyone else here using a Mac? I'm hoping for a solution. I am following GNA's tutorial on processing RAW video, and it seems on his PC he's able to process the .RAW file in the Pink Dot Removal Tool BEFORE using raw2dng.

On Mac, Raw Therapee doesn't seem to be able to open .RAW, so I first used raw2dng, opened up the DNG's in Raw Therapee, and attempted to use the Hot/Dead Pixel Fixer, but this seemed to do nothing.


2) A simple question, but...I know that the Magic Lantern menu can be accessed by pushing the "trash" icon, but how does one simply jump from the menu to Live Video View? Often, if I press the shutter button, it opens up the Canon live view (instead of the Magic Lantern Live View). What button exits the Magic Lantern menu/settings?


Thanks in advance for the answers, folks!

Hello #benlen just take a look at  http://www.gna-productions.com/tutos/how-to-process-magic-lantern-raw-videos
#dsagilles wrote a tutorial about processing RAW files with After Effects and Camera RAW. If you have the new ML vesion on your Cam its only available us process RAW whit 1280 x 720 resolution. To process the RAW image whit resolution of 1472*626 and the DotRemover whitout problem you´ll need to install an older ML version...

Greetings from Switzerland... sorry about my English.  :-X
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on September 25, 2013, 03:58:49 PM
C_you that's precisely the guide I've been following, haha.

Are you saying that GNA is running an older version of Magic Lantern, and that if you use any resolution less than or greater than 720p, you can't use Raw Therapee?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on September 25, 2013, 04:12:53 PM
If you have the new ML vesion on your Cam its only available us process RAW whit 1280 x 720 resolution. To process the RAW image whit resolution of 1472*626 and the DotRemover whitout problem you´ll need to install an older ML version...

What are you talking about?
I'm using latest nightly builds and i'm succesfully recording at 1536x640 and whatever other resoultions, and PDR works nice.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on September 25, 2013, 07:05:28 PM
Rewind, what aspect ratio are you shooting at to get 1536x640?


And it seems like there's a difference between the Pink Dot Remover and Raw Therapee?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on September 25, 2013, 07:26:30 PM
Rewind, what aspect ratio are you shooting at to get 1536x640?


And it seems like there's a difference between the Pink Dot Remover and Raw Therapee?

1536x640 is obviously exactly 2.4:1 )

PDR and RAW Therapee are absolutely different things. Please, read this: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.0
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: delorossa on September 25, 2013, 08:20:12 PM
a question when has the end the pink dots problem.To remove the pink dots take my time.....or is there a good Tutorial for remove pink dots.....Regards
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: simolo on September 25, 2013, 08:42:03 PM
Hey guys !
i have a question ! when i want to start the raw video module it says that i have an to old ver. i should install ver.4 instead of ver.2
any help ? where do I find the download link ??
anyways thank you ! :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mymate on September 25, 2013, 08:46:02 PM
Hey guys !
i have a question ! when i want to start the raw video module it says that i have an to old ver. i should install ver.4 instead of ver.2
any help ? where do I find the download link ??
anyways thank you ! :)

Use nightlies - http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on September 25, 2013, 08:49:20 PM
1) Status of Pink Dot Remover/Raw Therapee: I already posted this in the Pink Dot Removal thread, but I figured I'd post it here as well. Raw Therapee runs extremely slow/laggy on my new Mac and crahses frequently. It also doesn't seem to remove pink dots!

Is anyone else here using a Mac? I'm hoping for a solution. I am following GNA's tutorial on processing RAW video, and it seems on his PC he's able to process the .RAW file in the Pink Dot Removal Tool BEFORE using raw2dng.

On Mac, Raw Therapee doesn't seem to be able to open .RAW, so I first used raw2dng, opened up the DNG's in Raw Therapee, and attempted to use the Hot/Dead Pixel Fixer, but this seemed to do nothing.

For Mac I would suggest RAW Magic after using the PDR tool.  I think you need the latest PDR to run it on the RAW file.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/rawmagic/id658860973?mt=12
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: benlen on September 25, 2013, 09:25:17 PM
Hi dngrhm, I have (I believe) the latest version of Raw Therapee––is there a difference between Raw Therapee and Pink Dot Removal Tool? Is there a separate java app maybe for Pink Dot Removal tool that can run on Mac?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on September 25, 2013, 10:13:33 PM
Hi dngrhm, I have (I believe) the latest version of Raw Therapee––is there a difference between Raw Therapee and Pink Dot Removal Tool? Is there a separate java app maybe for Pink Dot Removal tool that can run on Mac?
I havent' used RawTherapee, but my understanding is that it uses PDR.  You should be able to download the PDR (there is a link in the tutorial though the link is flawed and lacks a : between http and //) and extract to a directory on your computer. Double click the Jar file to run it.

or run the following from the command line in the directory that you just put it in.
Code: [Select]
java -jar "PinkDotRemover.jar"
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: delorossa on September 25, 2013, 11:43:46 PM
Who can explain me how i can remove the pink dots thx
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on September 25, 2013, 11:54:32 PM
Who can explain me how i can remove the pink dots thx

1. make sure you have java installed
2. download pinkdotremover
3. launch pinkdotremover
3. and open your raw video file
4. press convert
5. you may see nothing happen thats normal just wait patiently until a pop up window comes up saying its done
6. do whatever editing you want to images

for more detail check out

about raw video: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5654.0

and

about pink dot remover: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.0
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on September 26, 2013, 03:38:11 AM
I was wondering would it be possible to change the advanced bracketing feature so that when its used its put into its own folder maybe something like HDR001, HDR002 and so on each time you do a sequence, man that would make things easier when you go to off load the memory card and you dont have to go through all the photos to figure out when one sequence ends and another starts. ^^;;
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: C_you on September 26, 2013, 12:14:58 PM
What are you talking about?
I'm using latest nightly builds and i'm succesfully recording at 1536x640 and whatever other resoultions, and PDR works nice.

I talked about the problem that I've had and appears when I want to remove the Pink Dots with a resoluion of 1476x626 (ratio 1:2.35) at 23.976 so like dsagilles also do​​. With a resolution like you used and the new NB of ML this dons't happen.

That mean "Sir", do you  treated with other resolutions besides 1:2,49 ? I dont think so...

 @benlen: if a few less pixel are not a problem for you, try the tutorial #dsagilles with a resolution like #rewind talk about. Have Fun  8) I use Windows and OSX.. ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on September 26, 2013, 12:29:48 PM
I talked about the problem that I've had and appears when I want to remove the Pink Dots with a resoluion of 1476x626 (ratio 1:2.35) at 23.976 so like dsagilles also do​​. With a resolution like you used and the new NB of ML this dons't happen.

PDR works fine with any resolution and aspect ratio with one limitation:
The height and the width must be a multiples of x16.

So i'm using 1600x672 (2,38:1), 1584x688 (2,3:1), 1568x656 (2.39:1) and others.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: C_you on September 26, 2013, 12:37:53 PM
@Rewind: Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: delorossa on September 26, 2013, 02:42:04 PM
@ kazeone

thx i will try it.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: delorossa on September 26, 2013, 02:53:38 PM
I have one question ,when the cam is bootable with a no name sd card 16gb as example,can i use my Monster 128 SDXC Card after that??? I must only copy the Files what was in the first 16gb card ,right???

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on September 26, 2013, 05:27:42 PM
Are you saying that GNA is running an older version of Magic Lantern (...)

That's right, I'm using an old version of Magic Lantern (v 08.08.2013) because I experience problem removing pink dots with the recent ML builds at 1476x626 (PDR seems to have no effect at all).

Be sure you're using PDR v0.8 to process directly .RAW files. If it's the case, you still can extract all frames with RAW Magic and process frames with PDR, but you'll need the double of disk space to process all your videos. I've a mac too but I haven't tried processing RAW since the last version of PDR on OSX.

PDR works fine with any resolution and aspect ratio with one limitation:
The height and the width must be a multiples of x16.

So i'm using 1600x672 (2,38:1), 1584x688 (2,3:1), 1568x656 (2.39:1) and others.

Thanks for the information, I'll give a try with one of those aspect ratio.

I'll do more RAW test with the latest ML version and try to find a quicker workflow using Davinci Resolve (OSx).
Maybe I'll do a complete video tutorial for RAW processing on Windows and OSX. (in French with English subtitles).

I'll keep you posted !
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on September 26, 2013, 05:47:22 PM
I must only copy the Files what was in the first 16gb card ,right???
And make it bootable with EosCard
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: delorossa on September 26, 2013, 08:46:03 PM
And make it bootable with EosCard

U mean bevor i put the 128GB card i must use EosCard and set the two options...?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on September 26, 2013, 09:37:02 PM
Correct
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: delorossa on September 26, 2013, 11:13:15 PM
Correct

But why can i not take or use first the 128GB Card or only the 128GB Card???
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on September 27, 2013, 04:00:33 AM
Alright guys, the RAW tests are being shot next week, along with many other ML feature tests.

In the meantime, here's a quick showreel of mine, with almost every clip in it being aided by ML in some way. All clips were shot on the 650D with either a 50mm 1.8 or an 18-135mm 3.5-5.6.


Enjoy.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on September 27, 2013, 02:05:31 PM
последняя сборка ML_N_18.09.2013.zip ? новее больше не выходило?
last assembly ML_N_18.09.2013.zip? is newer didn't leave any more?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on September 27, 2013, 05:03:01 PM
Newest build http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on September 27, 2013, 06:57:06 PM
Alright guys, the RAW tests are being shot next week, along with many other ML feature tests.

In the meantime, here's a quick showreel of mine, with almost every clip in it being aided by ML in some way. All clips were shot on the 650D with either a 50mm 1.8 or an 18-135mm 3.5-5.6.


Enjoy.

Nice video. You seem pretty familiar with ML. I have a question I have asked a few times but nobody can answer it, maybe you can help me. I am using ML digital iso with a setting of -0.3 so I can gain access to native iso's like 160. The problem is the histogram no longer gives the clip warnings and zebras do not work. I was told I need to change threshold settings but I am not sure what to set them to. If you can answer that it would be great, thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: guillegar on September 27, 2013, 07:18:55 PM
I though I already replied but I didn't:

Thank you!  :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: NikeFreak on September 27, 2013, 09:03:24 PM
нашел ошибку в Built on: 2013-09-27 04:55:09 +0400, при выборе "спуск затвора без карты памяти" не фотографирует, хотя карта на месте.

I found a mistake in Built on: 2013-09-27 04:55:09 +0400, at choice "lock descent without a memory card" doesn't photograph, though the card on a place.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on September 27, 2013, 10:03:31 PM
Nice video. You seem pretty familiar with ML. I have a question I have asked a few times but nobody can answer it, maybe you can help me. I am using ML digital iso with a setting of -0.3 so I can gain access to native iso's like 160. The problem is the histogram no longer gives the clip warnings and zebras do not work. I was told I need to change threshold settings but I am not sure what to set them to. If you can answer that it would be great, thanks.

I've not had any trouble using Zebras with ML's custom ISOs. I'm not sure what the setting of -0.3 is, as my build of ML has the native ISO values in it by default. If I had my camera with me at the moment I'd try and figure something out, but I'm at work at the moment.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on September 27, 2013, 10:08:21 PM
Measure the brightest point with the spotmeter and set the overexposure threshold just a little lower.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: oli650d on September 28, 2013, 02:01:46 PM
bonjour il n"y as pas de mise a jour depuis 10 jours ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on September 28, 2013, 02:26:06 PM
bonjour il n"y as pas de mise a jour depuis 10 jours ?
The answer was written 6 post above your post.

Newest build http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: oli650d on September 28, 2013, 05:37:10 PM
 :D cool
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jeffadkins51 on September 28, 2013, 05:50:35 PM
Newest build http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/

Thanks, I've been checking the dropbox every day for over a week waiting for an update... why the change of locations again? I didn't see anything posted about it (must have missed it since you seem to know ^^)

Nice video. You seem pretty familiar with ML. I have a question I have asked a few times but nobody can answer it, maybe you can help me. I am using ML digital iso with a setting of -0.3 so I can gain access to native iso's like 160. The problem is the histogram no longer gives the clip warnings and zebras do not work. I was told I need to change threshold settings but I am not sure what to set them to. If you can answer that it would be great, thanks.

Hmmm, this makes it sound like there is an option you can enable and then when you go to ISO you see more than the normal canon ones, is that correct? *goes looking for this setting*

My understanding as of now before looking for this is that you can change the ISO, say to 160, inside of ML, but it doesn't actually make it a normal ISO setting that you can select from pressing the ISO button?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on September 28, 2013, 07:33:06 PM
Measure the brightest point with the spotmeter and set the overexposure threshold just a little lower.

Thanks. I found that with cinestyle and iso 160 and multiples of, 97% seems to be the brightest point so I set the threshold to 96% and zebras now work. Is there any way to get histogram warnings to work also with iso 160 and multiples of? thanks again!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on September 28, 2013, 08:13:51 PM
Is there a way or could this be added that with "Motion Detect" when it is triggered have it burst a series of photos? and have us have the ability to set how many photos to quickly be taken when its triggered?

Edit: never mind, under "Shoot Preferences" it looks like I set it there for "Motion Detect". :)

Edit 2: hmm it seems pretty slow compared to the cameras typical burst speed, is there a way to make it faster?
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on September 29, 2013, 09:17:44 AM
Just came across this "Audio Remote Shoot" is this still a feature in ML, will we see this feature one day assuming we overcome the audio issues? just curious :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Alex N on September 29, 2013, 04:08:22 PM
I am writing an interpreter in case if something is not clear. Such a problem when recording video includes Magic Zoom pop-up window with strong jumps orentirovatsya of focus is very hard it just me, if not then it can be a big request like that before ispravit.Takzhe remember was a confirmation of focus in green on the box Magic Zum.I more You can display the audio level that would have been seen writes sound or not. Borrowed from other 600D firmware is working at 100 even regretted that took the 650D.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on September 30, 2013, 01:23:01 AM
Could some one please, tell me in Flash Tweaks, Third P Flash Live view, How to make it work ?
Because When I turn it on doesn't fire studio strobes in live view.
Thank you
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on September 30, 2013, 08:14:33 PM
Hi,

I need Magic Lantern on my 650D mainly for audio monitoring (I have bought a mini USB to stereo 3.5mm jack cable for that purpose). But seeing that audio related features are disabled, I'm kind of disappointed.

Is there a timeframe on when are these features going to be added to 650D build?
Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: walter_schulz on September 30, 2013, 08:22:51 PM
Is there a timeframe on when are these features going to be added to 650D build?
Home Page -> Support -> F.A.Q -> Troll Questions -> Last one
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jeffadkins51 on October 01, 2013, 07:02:12 AM
From my tests tonight I can say that on the 650D the flash expo override settings under flash tweaks appears to no longer be working. I took several pictures at -10 and at 0 with no difference at all in the pictures. (full manual mode, tripod, etc, no variances or camera controls changing by themselves)

Could you good folks be so kind as to look into this when you get the chance?

Thanks!
-Jeff
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on October 01, 2013, 06:34:33 PM
Guys is it my idea or has the raw writting performance on 1280*720 dropped down?

I could write continously on this a while ago, while now it can't.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on October 01, 2013, 07:12:02 PM
Guys is it my idea or has the raw writting performance on 1280*720 dropped down?

I could write continously on this a while ago, while now it can't.

Just checked with tle latest nightly — 1280x720 @24p continious OK.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on October 01, 2013, 07:22:34 PM
well maybe my cards needs a format then. I dont know. its weird
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on October 01, 2013, 08:15:39 PM
I've just noticed that the recording stops after the first 4GB, Somehow after its finishing the *.raw file and starts writting the *.r00 everything become messed up. The buffering changes and it stops.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: djtwinz on October 02, 2013, 05:25:14 AM
I've just noticed that the recording stops after the first 4GB, Somehow after its finishing the *.raw file and starts writting the *.r00 everything become messed up. The buffering changes and it stops.
The maximum possible size for a file on a FAT32 volume is 4 GiB
That maybe the problem..
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on October 02, 2013, 09:41:35 PM
though that info doesnt help.. is this a bug or something?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on October 02, 2013, 10:46:08 PM
It is a limitation of fat32
Solution is using exfat.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on October 02, 2013, 11:13:36 PM
Thanks spider :) will try that first thing tomorrow!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on October 03, 2013, 01:56:59 AM
the audio function will be available soon?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jeffadkins51 on October 03, 2013, 04:43:43 AM
the audio function will be available soon?

That's generally considered a "troll" question, it'll be ready whenever it's ready, which will depend on if it can be done at all, how much time they guys working on this take away from their families and lives to pour into the program, how many errors and problems they encounter, and about 100 other variables. It's really impossible to say if you think about it... It'll be ready when it's ready  ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: midnite on October 03, 2013, 07:53:48 AM
the audio function will be available soon?

Soon.™
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Jokemeister on October 03, 2013, 09:49:18 AM
Hi avramidis3d, from what I've read there are many sources of flicker and one of them is inconsistencies in the physical movement of the the aperture blades in your lens because each time your camera takes a photo it goes from fully open to whatever aperture you've set. There are also changes in lighting that might cause flicker etc. etc. I've started using LRTimelapse software to deflicker and it's been the only way I've managed to create a half decent timelapse no matter what I did when shooting. The free version lets you process up to 400 images in a single set. It's easy to use but it is designed to have Lightroom in the workflow. The main function is to smooth out your exposures to eliminate (significantly deminish) flicker.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: delorossa on October 03, 2013, 02:18:38 PM
Format your card with fat32 then extract this zip file into the root of your memory card.

http://nanomad.magiclantern.fm/650D/magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug03.650D104.zip

Then format card again and download latest nightly into root of your card.

i dont understand this....i format my SD Card, put the files what is in the zip File of 3 August 2013 is,and then i format after that again the SD Card, and then i put the Files what is in the Nightly???????

WHY can i not put directly the Nightlys into the SD Card.


PLEASE make a good Tutorial for that when u give us Nightlys,....and please explain me how can i use a 128 GB Card....thx

Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on October 03, 2013, 04:35:12 PM
i dont understand this....i format my SD Card, put the files what is in the zip File of 3 August 2013 is,and then i format after that again the SD Card, and then i put the Files what is in the Nightly???????

WHY can i not put directly the Nightlys into the SD Card.


PLEASE make a good Tutorial for that when u give us Nightlys,....and please explain me how can i use a 128 GB Card....thx

Don't format the card after you put the august 3rd files on the SD. Copy the August 3rd files to the SD than copy the nightly files and select overwrite all.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on October 03, 2013, 05:04:55 PM
i dont understand this....i format my SD Card, put the files what is in the zip File of 3 August 2013 is,and then i format after that again the SD Card, and then i put the Files what is in the Nightly???????

WHY can i not put directly the Nightlys into the SD Card.


PLEASE make a good Tutorial for that when u give us Nightlys,....and please explain me how can i use a 128 GB Card....thx
You only need the 2013Aug03 zip for setting the bootflag on your camera.  If that is done, you want to only use the nightly build.  Delete the previous build off of the SD card before putting a new one on.  Do not just overwrite the previous folder.

For the 128GB card...
- format the card with exFat (this is OS specific how to do it.  Use Disk Utility on Mac. If you don't know how to format a card ask specifically for that mentioning OS or better yet google it)
- Set the bootflag on the SD card using EOSCard, MacBoot, ... (search the forum if you are unfamiliar with how to do that)
- Download the nightly
  - Click "Home Page" on top of this page
  - Click "Downloads" at the top of that page
  - Scroll down to and click on "Browse Nightly Builds"
  - Select 650D.104 for the platform (Your camera should be running Canon 1.0.4 firmware)
  - Click "Download"
- Extract the zip file once downloaded
- Move the ML folder and autoexec.bat files to the top-level directory of the newly formatted 128GB SD card
- Insert SD card into 650D
- Turn on 650D
- Push Trashcan button for ML menu
- Select appropriate menu options (too many to list)
- Push Trashcan button to exit ML menu
- press Info button a few times until ML overlays show up
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: delorossa on October 03, 2013, 06:10:08 PM
You only need the 2013Aug03 zip for setting the bootflag on your camera.  If that is done, you want to only use the nightly build.  Delete the previous build off of the SD card before putting a new one on.  Do not just overwrite the previous folder.

For the 128GB card...
- format the card with exFat (this is OS specific how to do it.  Use Disk Utility on Mac. If you don't know how to format a card ask specifically for that mentioning OS or better yet google it)
- Set the bootflag on the SD card using EOSCard, MacBoot, ... (search the forum if you are unfamiliar with how to do that)
- Download the nightly
  - Click "Home Page" on top of this page
  - Click "Downloads" at the top of that page
  - Scroll down to and click on "Browse Nightly Builds"
  - Select 650D.104 for the platform (Your camera should be running Canon 1.0.4 firmware)
  - Click "Download"
- Extract the zip file once downloaded
- Move the ML folder and autoexec.bat files to the top-level directory of the newly formatted 128GB SD card
- Insert SD card into 650D
- Turn on 650D
- Push Trashcan button for ML menu
- Select appropriate menu options (too many to list)
- Push Trashcan button to exit ML menu
- press Info button a few times until ML overlays show up



thx but i have installed ML so

16GB

1. i Download the
http://nanomad.magiclantern.fm/650D/magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug03.650D104.zip

2. then i format SD card in low level (in the Cam 650D)

3. then i put the Card to my computer

4. Run EOSCard, i uncheck EOS_Develop and BOOTDISK

5. then i put the Files " from 3 August 2013" and drop it into my SD CARD (16GB) and then i install 1.0.4 ( the installation worked)

128GB

1. i put the 128Gb card into my Computer and i formated the Card
2. then i run EOSCard and then i did click on EOS_DEVELOP and BOOTDISK (is the 2 clicks a Bootflag what u mean???)
3. and then i took the files from the first SD CARD (16GB)  and did put into the 128GB Card,then I took the last Nightly Files and Overrirde about the old Files (from 3.August2013), and then back to Cam,and i worked,and it sometimes lagged.....

This Steps i dont understand,because my English is not very well....When we have here a German USER ,please answer me here,or send me a PM.thx


6. Start camera in M photo mode and reset settings to default.  (i dont understand this)
 what i must reset,and where????
7. Extract the contents of the installation zip on SD card.  (i dont understand this)
 What it means? the NIGHTLYs or what???
8. Start camera in M photo mode and run firmware update. This will run the ML setup and make your card bootable too. (i dont understand this)
9. Follow the on-screen instructions   (i dont understand this)



When i look the Tutorial in youtube as example this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U0SRqXkg_Q its show so much different,and nobody explain me/us the STEPS from 6 to 9


and please, much people downloads youtube Videos or Pictures,but no explain us, how or where we can change DUAL ISO or Raw Video etc......There is no "short" Tutorials about Video Settings,Images Settings, Dual ISO ,or RAW Video etc.


Sorry i must deinstalled Magic lantern,because is to complicated for me in English.I got in this 20 minutes to much headache from the Settings in ML.....and the HDR videos dont work, its flickering,and i have no Time to proceed the Videos  and sit for my Computer 30 minutes......

but thx for the Hard Works,and maybee what i dont believe, we have someone that translate ML in German.......


Regards
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on October 03, 2013, 07:27:48 PM


thx but i have installed ML so

16GB

1. i Download the
http://nanomad.magiclantern.fm/650D/magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug03.650D104.zip

2. then i format SD card in low level (in the Cam 650D)

3. then i put the Card to my computer

4. Run EOSCard, i uncheck EOS_Develop and BOOTDISK

5. then i put the Files " from 3 August 2013" and drop it into my SD CARD (16GB) and then i install 1.0.4 ( the installation worked)

128GB

1. i put the 128Gb card into my Computer and i formated the Card
2. then i run EOSCard and then i did click on EOS_DEVELOP and BOOTDISK (is the 2 clicks a Bootflag what u mean???)
3. and then i took the files from the first SD CARD (16GB)  and did put into the 128GB Card,then I took the last Nightly Files and Overrirde about the old Files (from 3.August2013), and then back to Cam,and i worked,and it sometimes lagged.....

This Steps i dont understand,because my English is not very well....When we have here a German USER ,please answer me here,or send me a PM.thx


6. Start camera in M photo mode and reset settings to default.  (i dont understand this)
 what i must reset,and where????
7. Extract the contents of the installation zip on SD card.  (i dont understand this)
 What it means? the NIGHTLYs or what???
8. Start camera in M photo mode and run firmware update. This will run the ML setup and make your card bootable too. (i dont understand this)
9. Follow the on-screen instructions   (i dont understand this)



When i look the Tutorial in youtube as example this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U0SRqXkg_Q its show so much different,and nobody explain me/us the STEPS from 6 to 9


and please, much people downloads youtube Videos or Pictures,but no explain us, how or where we can change DUAL ISO or Raw Video etc......There is no "short" Tutorials about Video Settings,Images Settings, Dual ISO ,or RAW Video etc.


Sorry i must deinstalled Magic lantern,because is to complicated for me in English.I got in this 20 minutes to much headache from the Settings in ML.....and the HDR videos dont work, its flickering,and i have no Time to proceed the Videos  and sit for my Computer 30 minutes......

but thx for the Hard Works,and maybee what i dont believe, we have someone that translate ML in German.......


Regards
If ML is working with the 16GB card, you do not need steps 6-9.  Steps 6-9 are only needed to make the camera look for something to run on the SD card.  I will try to answer your questions stated but you shouldn't need them

6. that means to set the dial to Manual (M) and turn the switch from off to photo (not video) Then go into Canon menu and find the options to reset the Canon settings to default (wrench3 or 4 maybe)
7. Extract the contents of the 2013Aug03 zip to the SD card (you shouldn't need to do this except for initial install)
8. set the dial to Manual (M) and turn the switch from off to photo (not video) Then in the Canon menu do a firmware update (DO NOT do this with the 128 card)
9. The previous step (step 8 ) will result in some instructions on the screen.  Follow the instructions.

HDR videos should flicker. HDR video records alternating bright and dark frames.  playing back as a normal video will give a strobe effect.  post processing merges frame pairs (1&2, 3&4, ...) giving the HDR.

When you update to the nightly build, delete the previous install (ML directory and autoexec.bat) first.  Then move the new build (ML directory and autoexec.bat) over to the SD card.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on October 03, 2013, 09:43:21 PM
You only need the 2013Aug03 zip for setting the bootflag on your camera.  If that is done, you want to only use the nightly build.  Delete the previous build off of the SD card before putting a new one on.  Do not just overwrite the previous folder.

For the 128GB card...
- format the card with exFat (this is OS specific how to do it.  Use Disk Utility on Mac. If you don't know how to format a card ask specifically for that mentioning OS or better yet google it)
- Set the bootflag on the SD card using EOSCard, MacBoot, ... (search the forum if you are unfamiliar with how to do that)
- Download the nightly
  - Click "Home Page" on top of this page
  - Click "Downloads" at the top of that page
  - Scroll down to and click on "Browse Nightly Builds"
  - Select 650D.104 for the platform (Your camera should be running Canon 1.0.4 firmware)
  - Click "Download"
- Extract the zip file once downloaded
- Move the ML folder and autoexec.bat files to the top-level directory of the newly formatted 128GB SD card
- Insert SD card into 650D
- Turn on 650D
- Push Trashcan button for ML menu
- Select appropriate menu options (too many to list)
- Push Trashcan button to exit ML menu
- press Info button a few times until ML overlays show up

I didn't run diff on the the dir so i'm not sure if any other files are missing but the nightlies I ran were missing the doc files which is why I used overrwrite.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on October 04, 2013, 04:24:45 PM
Reporting a potential bug

I have a Class 10 SDHC card which says it can write and read up to 20MB/s. So I tested CBR modes today and starting from 1.2x to 3.0x I couldn't notice any difference and when I checked the bitrate of the files, I saw that CBR settings doesn't actually cause any effect on the video. A video shot with CBR 3.0x settings has roughly same bitrate and filesize as CBR 2.0X or 1.0x

Can anybody test and confirm this?

***
ALSO

All I have to play with is the CBR. Where is the VBR (Qscale) mode on 650D? I couldn't find it anywhere.
Thanks in advance.

***


OK I had to press Q. Got it...
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on October 04, 2013, 04:40:49 PM
Reporting a potential bug

False alarm. Results from latest nightly (x1 vs x2.4 CBR)
(http://ipic.su/img/img7/fs/kiss_105kb.1380897327.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on October 04, 2013, 04:42:27 PM
You need to shoot something with a lot of detail. Only this will produce higher bitrates.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on October 04, 2013, 08:44:05 PM
Did my question get deleted? WTF it was a valid question with the previous comments having issues with 128gb cards, I was wondering if the card I was looking at would work fine with the 650D and ML.... ~_~
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on October 04, 2013, 09:13:18 PM
I never read anything about real problems with 128GB cards.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: delorossa on October 04, 2013, 09:30:41 PM
Oh my God :-X I have made a video ​​in HDR (not more than 2 min).After that , I just click in HDR WORKLFLOW FILE "main" Virtual Dub need 1 Hour and now at the End of Virtual Dub ,he need more than 1 hour  to Filter or convert the images to C....is that a Joke????
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on October 04, 2013, 11:26:40 PM
Oh my God :-X I have made a video ​​in HDR (not more than 2 min).After that , I just click in HDR WORKLFLOW FILE "main" Virtual Dub need 1 Hour and now at the End of Virtual Dub ,he need more than 1 hour  to Filter or convert the images to C....is that a Joke????

It made me laugh....   

If you think you can improve on the workflow you used, feel free to contribute.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on October 06, 2013, 08:10:08 PM
Hi all,

Well, I am ready to take the heat for being naive on this. 

This weekend I finally had a chance to play and wanted to do a full minute of raw and blend in surround sound (new recorder  :)).  Up until now I have been doing 10 sec clips.  Unfortunately I could not do continuous raw recording at 1280 x 720 at 16:9.

The message at the bottom says 36.8 MB/s  is needed (yellow text). I get about 700 frames before it stops.  If I change settings to 1152x648 16:9 or change the aspect ratio of the 1280 I can get the “green” continuous recording, which is obviously lower that the 720p. 

I believe I have the camera settings ok unless someone can advise.  I have two cards.  One is a SanDisk Extreme 80mb/s 8 gig class 10 (I got this before I realized this was over kill for the T4i) and a San Disk Extreme 45 MB/s class 10 64 gig.  Neither works for continuous raw recording at 1280 x 720 at 16:9. 

So is my camera a lemon or have I missed something?

I appreciate any insights.

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: juzza on October 06, 2013, 11:39:39 PM
Where did you buy your cards?  If it was from Ebay or the like then you might have fake ones.

Obviously we all have the same camera and I also have a San Disk Extreme 45 MB/s class 10 64 gig and I can record 1280 x 720 without a problem.  I purchased my card from Amazon so I know it is legit.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on October 07, 2013, 02:50:37 AM
Where did you buy your cards?  If it was from Ebay or the like then you might have fake ones.

Obviously we all have the same camera and I also have a San Disk Extreme 45 MB/s class 10 64 gig and I can record 1280 x 720 without a problem.  I purchased my card from Amazon so I know it is legit.

Amazon for me too.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on October 07, 2013, 07:06:08 AM
You should perform the write speed bencmark.
Go to ML Menu — Debug — Benchmarks — Card R/W benchmark (5 min)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on October 07, 2013, 10:57:08 AM
Ok, guys, I've got a slight speed increase with latest pravdomil's builds. His branch is related to 5dm2, but modified raw_rec works well on 650d.

If you activate the small hacks option in raw_rec settings, you'll get an error message for a couple of seconds, but then it disappears and recording continues nicely. So instead of previous maximum at 37.3 Mb/s now i'm getting 37.7.

It seems like tiny bit, but it leads to extra 16 pixels in width or vertically at least.
If you are shooting continuous, now you can use:
1296x720 or 1280x736 instead of 1280x720,
1504x626 or 1472x640 instead of 1472x626.

Usually I'm using 1536x640, and now I get 45-47 seconds of recording (extra 7-8 secs compared to previous versions). Now it is enough for me to achieve any prodution shot in my workflow.

By the way, pravdomil's raw_rec has some additional sweet features like black bars while recording. So with a little tweaking of his code, adding custom cropmarks etc., i've got this in standby mode:
(http://moredo.ru/raw/650d_pr_standby.jpg)

and this while recording:
(http://moredo.ru/raw/650d_pr_recOn.jpg)

Nice, huh? )
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on October 07, 2013, 02:40:20 PM
You should perform the write speed bencmark.
Go to ML Menu — Debug — Benchmarks — Card R/W benchmark (5 min)

Rewind,

Thanks I will do that tonite (I am in Michigan Eastern Standard Time) and report back.

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on October 07, 2013, 03:30:29 PM
Hi all,

Well, I am ready to take the heat for being naive on this. 

This weekend I finally had a chance to play and wanted to do a full minute of raw and blend in surround sound (new recorder  :)).  Up until now I have been doing 10 sec clips.  Unfortunately I could not do continuous raw recording at 1280 x 720 at 16:9.

The message at the bottom says 36.8 MB/s  is needed (yellow text). I get about 700 frames before it stops.  If I change settings to 1152x648 16:9 or change the aspect ratio of the 1280 I can get the “green” continuous recording, which is obviously lower that the 720p. 

I believe I have the camera settings ok unless someone can advise.  I have two cards.  One is a SanDisk Extreme 80mb/s 8 gig class 10 (I got this before I realized this was over kill for the T4i) and a San Disk Extreme 45 MB/s class 10 64 gig.  Neither works for continuous raw recording at 1280 x 720 at 16:9. 

So is my camera a lemon or have I missed something?

I appreciate any insights.

dave
36.8 MB/s seems high for 720p. Maybe I'm just remembering incorrectly. You may want to check your frame rate.  720p works at 24FPS (given sufficient SD card performance).  Easiest way to get there is to set the Canon video mode to record 1080p24.  Then setup your RAW rec settings for 720p. 
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: juzza on October 07, 2013, 10:12:03 PM
Posted earlier but now resolved my own problem.  Can a mod delete this message when they see it.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on October 07, 2013, 11:22:00 PM
Hey people any shortcut to ISO ? Thank you
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 07, 2013, 11:32:13 PM
Seen the ISO button in front of the mode dial? I suppose any shortcut shorter might require some kind of neural interface not involving fingers.

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on October 07, 2013, 11:38:25 PM
36.8 MB/s seems high for 720p. Maybe I'm just remembering incorrectly. You may want to check your frame rate.  720p works at 24FPS (given sufficient SD card performance).  Easiest way to get there is to set the Canon video mode to record 1080p24.  Then setup your RAW rec settings for 720p.

Well I have it on 1080p24.

 I did the card test and write speed is 36.9 so 36.8 is too close I guess. 

Can someone confirm what the speed should be?

Thanks a lot if you or someone can help me work this out.

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on October 08, 2013, 12:42:38 AM
Seen the ISO button in front of the mode dial? I suppose any shortcut shorter might require some kind of neural interface not involving fingers.

Ciao, Walter

Sure but the ISO Button open Canon ISO Values, I mean a shortcut to open ML ISO values. :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 08, 2013, 04:39:16 AM
Give MyMenu a try.
Prefs -> Customize Menus ON. Then Expo -> ISO -> [Q] -> ML digital ISO -> [Set]
Mark all other menu items you want to have a shortcut to, then browse to MyMenu.
While shooting just press the trashcan button.

"Standard" shortcut to ISO is via Prefs -> Arrow/SET shortcuts -> ISO/Kelvin ON.
Prefs -> Misc key settings -> LCD Sensor Shorcuts ON.
Now just place a finger near the LCD Sensor. Controls will toggle. Use Arrow right/left to change ISO. Trigger LCD sensor again and controls toggles back.

HTH

Ciao
Walter

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on October 08, 2013, 06:25:03 AM
Give MyMenu a try.
Prefs -> Customize Menus ON. Then Expo -> ISO -> [Q] -> ML digital ISO -> [Set]
Mark all other menu items you want to have a shortcut to, then browse to MyMenu.
While shooting just press the trashcan button.

"Standard" shortcut to ISO is via Prefs -> Arrow/SET shortcuts -> ISO/Kelvin ON.
Prefs -> Misc key settings -> LCD Sensor Shorcuts ON.
Now just place a finger near the LCD Sensor. Controls will toggle. Use Arrow right/left to change ISO. Trigger LCD sensor again and controls toggles back.

HTH

Ciao
Walter

Thank you Walter that is Great, By any chance any idea how to enable in Flash tweaks 3rd p.flash LV ? I mean it can go on but doesn't fire my studio strobes in Live View
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 08, 2013, 08:12:47 AM
Glad it helped!

Flash tweaks: Haven't used the 3rd party option until now.
And my test right now did not go well:
Enabled the option. Liveview, shutter release button half pressed the mirror went up and a message appeared in the upper left corner "(take pic or release half-shutter)", cam doesn't return to liveview by any means, ML menu not showing after, menu frozen.
Turned cam off and on. Worked well until return to Liveview and trying to take a pic. I had to disable the option to make the cam work.

I used version dated 8. October.

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on October 08, 2013, 08:42:08 AM
Yes Walter it will come . :'(
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on October 08, 2013, 03:06:29 PM
Well I have it on 1080p24.

 I did the card test and write speed is 36.9 so 36.8 is too close I guess. 

Can someone confirm what the speed should be?

Thanks a lot if you or someone can help me work this out.

dave

Well both my cards ( SanDisk Extreme 80mb/s 8 gig class 10 (an august ML build)and San Disk Extreme 45 MB/s class 10 64 gig (Oct 4 ML build)) give test results at 36.5 and 36.8 respectively.  If what I see on my LCD is that 36.8 is necessary for 720p.  I looked back in some of the old posts in the previous forum for the prior t4i firmware read the statement that for 1280 720 24, 36.8 mbs is needed.  So my results are consistent, but you all probably know that.

So all do you think it is my cam or my cards.  I got the cards from Amazon.  The fact that both cards essentially give the same test results leads me to believe that the test results reflect the capabilities of my camera rather than the cards.

After reading these early posts I have one more thing to try which is setting the FPS override to 23.973.  I can not play until tonite (9 hours away :(), but would that make the difference? 

Again thank you for any help and sorry if all of this is so throw back for you. 

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on October 08, 2013, 03:23:26 PM
try formatting your card on exfat if they are not
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on October 08, 2013, 03:46:05 PM
try formatting your card on exfat if they are not

I would assume that they are FAT 32 but I will check.  Can you help me understand how exfat would make a difference in write rates?

Thanks :)

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on October 08, 2013, 05:21:03 PM
I installed ML for my first 32GB card, for my second 32GB card I just copied files from the first one and it didn't work.

What are the steps I should follow?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on October 08, 2013, 05:27:01 PM
First, you should make your card bootable with EOScard for Windows or MacBoot for Mac.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on October 08, 2013, 06:13:49 PM
First, you should make your card bootable with EOScard for Windows or MacBoot for Mac.

I did. And then I did a low level format before extracting ML files to the card. But still no go. Nothing happens when I press the trashbin button.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on October 08, 2013, 06:18:58 PM
I did. And then I did a low level format before extracting ML files to the card. But still no go. Nothing happens when I press the trashbin button.

Why did you format the card after making it bootable!? You should just copy files on it. Then you can format it in-camera.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on October 08, 2013, 06:28:53 PM
Why did you format the card after making it bootable!? You should just copy files on it. Then you can format it in-camera.

I formatted it in camera.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 08, 2013, 06:42:27 PM
Sorry, you did it wrong.
Read instructions again and follow them.
After formating you have to make the card bootable and copy/transfer the files onto it.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on October 08, 2013, 07:15:10 PM
I formatted it in camera.
You shouldn't be able to boot the camera if you have the bootflag on the card set and ML is not on the card.  Check that you correctly set the bootflag on the card.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on October 08, 2013, 07:19:23 PM
You shouldn't be able to boot the camera if you have the bootflag on the card set and ML is not on the card.  Check that you correctly set the bootflag.

If you have bootflag set, but SD card isn't bootable, camera boots fine.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on October 08, 2013, 10:24:35 PM
not sure if this has been talked about as a possible solution for those wanting higher resolution but what about shooting video at say 4k but using Canon mov format? would it then be possible to film with that compression verses attempting it in Raw since this camera can barely handle 720p?

Edit: lol to that joke of a PM by a faceless individual which doesnt offer the ability to rebuttal, I did try searching but well lets face it the forum search functions ability is well a joke and then when you try to refine the search you cant or you have to wait, it was a legit question of possible "development" for the camera, I mean as stated its a development thread so coming up with alternative solution/ideas to work around this particular cameras limitations would be part of it right? ~_~
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on October 09, 2013, 03:01:31 AM
I guess I didn't understand the whole thing. Do I have to repeat the whole installation process for each new SD card i plug in? Because I did everything and I can't seem to make ML run on my second SD card.

So let's say I format an SD card with ML files in it? Do I have to repeat installation again?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on October 09, 2013, 06:30:50 AM

I guess I didn't understand the whole thing. Do I have to repeat the whole installation process for each new SD card i plug in? Because I did everything and I can't seem to make ML run on my second SD card.

So let's say I format an SD card with ML files in it? Do I have to repeat installation again?
You have to set the bootflag on the SD card (make it bootable) using MacBoot or EOScard. Then copy the ML folder and autoexec.bat to the card. No formatting necessary unless you want exfat for files larger then 4GB.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 09, 2013, 06:40:21 AM
So let's say I format an SD card with ML files in it? Do I have to repeat installation again?

a) If you format the card outside your cam: You have to make the card bootable again and transfer the ML files to it.
b) If you format the card inside the cam, you have two options:
Default: Format card and keep ML.
Alternative: Format card and wipe ML. If you do this and wish to run ML from this card after: Goto a).

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on October 09, 2013, 07:51:32 AM
I would assume that they are FAT 32 but I will check.  Can you help me understand how exfat would make a difference in write rates?

Thanks :)

dave
I am not exactly sure mate, but it did help me,
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on October 09, 2013, 09:36:10 AM
a) If you format the card outside your cam: You have to make the card bootable again and transfer the ML files to it.
Really? Maybe with this program https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_4/ but for the OS formating tool it is new for me.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: EstChris on October 09, 2013, 03:56:02 PM
Umm, can somebody tell me, does the AV cable audio monitoring works on 650D with ML? I mean for example when you film and connect AVC-DC400 (cable name) to the camera then connect your headphones to the AVC-DC400, can you hear the live audio from your mic (which is connected to the camera)?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on October 09, 2013, 04:47:15 PM
I am not exactly sure mate, but it did help me,

I am looking into the FAT 32 versus exfat formatting for the SD card and impact.  Does anyone else have an idea about this as I have not seen much discussion on this (besides file size increases). 

tx

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: radioman193 on October 09, 2013, 08:14:57 PM
AEB is BrOkEn............
it shuld take photos as Bright , darker,darker,darker,darker,darker .

But this is all messed up
it taken
Normal,Bright,dark,bright,dark,bright,dark,bright.


I have tryed
magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug03.650D104

And

magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Oct09.650D104

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1267413_550075711730534_527840032_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on October 09, 2013, 08:23:00 PM
Read this: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 09, 2013, 08:35:30 PM
I run v2.3NEXT.2013Oct08.650D104 with 5 shots (M). All 3 sequence settings tested: Works just fine.
Default sequence is 0,-,+,--,++

Try resetting all ML settings, all cam settings, restart and test again.

Ciao, Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: radioman193 on October 09, 2013, 08:37:12 PM
dont know what to say........
thats what >I< get as you see.
Usen " 0,-,+,--,++ "
4 frames
3ev
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 09, 2013, 08:46:38 PM
You were using 0,-,+,--,++ and now you're complaining not getting 0,+,++?
Sorry?

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: radioman193 on October 09, 2013, 08:59:06 PM
Usen " 0,-,+,--,++ "
4 frames
3ev
 I get just what you see Here
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1267413_550075711730534_527840032_o.jpg)

0,-,+,--,++  Even looks wrong............
and when i load the images with Photomatix Pro 4.2.7 it wants to set the EV as there is no if "Little" change in ev in the images .

why cant it be like all the Other cameras i own?

thay shoot
overexposed and down in Order .


just what is "0,-,+,--,++  " ?

it looks to me like this
0=Normal shot , -=Darker shot , += Brighter shot , - = darker shot , - = Darker shot , + = Brighter shot , + = Brighter shot   .


this is how it shuld be
This is AEB on my sx50hs
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1266773_550088958395876_108152538_o.jpg)

As you can see its In order and there is a change in the EV on eatch image.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 09, 2013, 09:19:05 PM
Go to Advanced Bracket, press Q, goto Sequence, change to "0 - --" and please, please, please RTFM instead posting questions answered by RTFM.

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: radioman193 on October 09, 2013, 09:32:15 PM
that Only shoots from the Normal exposure and down....

whats wrong with

+,-,-,-,-

overexposed down to whatever the stop is ?

Without haven to >manuallay< set it to overexpos and go from that point and down.

like just "Set and Shoot" .
I shoot 100's of cars a day and that way would take like forever as you would have to set the overexpos for Every car every time ..........



a Sample of my work......
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.512682282156211.1073741833.512368732187566&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.512682282156211.1073741833.512368732187566&type=3)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 09, 2013, 09:40:37 PM
That's the way it works and I don't have any problems with DSLRs *not* working as P&Ss. What's your problem with 0,-,+,--,++? If it's unbearable: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=24.0
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on October 09, 2013, 09:45:54 PM
First exposure must be 0 (can't change it).
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: radioman193 on October 09, 2013, 09:46:33 PM
I just used the sx50hs as a example .

the t4i In camera AEB 3 shot is Normal
and the 60D AEB is Normal..
and in order .
but ok i will just send the t4i back as i cant do extended AEB with it.
as thats All it is used for.


Thanks ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Unai on October 10, 2013, 01:39:02 AM
Sure it can, but I’m affraid you’re missing a point. With the default setting (0,–,+,––,++) you end up with 5 shots:

0: normally exposed
–: darker than 0
+: lighter than 0
––: darker than –
++: lighter than +
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jeffadkins51 on October 10, 2013, 03:21:52 AM
Sorry, I wanted to delete this post but apparently I can only edit what I already typed, not delete. Don't mind me :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on October 10, 2013, 10:58:05 AM
I love the Advanced bracketing,

I do sometimes get some strange results from the autodetect function. I would get 5 out of 7  photo's that are ok, and then 2 with the same exposure. However i cant reproduce it.

One thing that i would love is the implementation of a file prefix like in dual iso... that would help my workflow.

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on October 10, 2013, 11:59:03 AM
Tip: create a new folder before shooting brackets. I prefer it to prefix which screws up the file sorting anyway.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on October 10, 2013, 03:57:02 PM
Tip: create a new folder before shooting brackets. I prefer it to prefix which screws up the file sorting anyway.

Thanks for the tip. I will give it a go.

I usually let LR  import my files, and i cant discriminate between folders. I could remove the files manually, of course.  As a midway option would it be possible to specify that advanced bracketing files should go to a specific folder.

That would eliminate the extra step in selecting the folder, turn on AVB and shoot a HDR, turn of AVB,  then select the former folder and shoot a normal shot.  You could just turn AVB on and off.

I would sill prefer the prefix, aldo it will screw up the sorting to some degree. As a sort my files in  year / month / day folders, I will have limited sorting issues with a prefix.

If the prefix could support its own numbering that would be awesome.. eg   

AB1_2511.CRW
AB1_2512.CRW
AB1_2513.CRW

AB2_2514.CRW
AB2_2515.CRW
AB2_2516.CRW

AB3_2517.CRW
AB3_2518.CRW
AB3_2519.CRW
AB3_2520.CRW
AB3_2521.CRW


edit-- typo
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: EstChris on October 10, 2013, 04:32:07 PM
Umm, can somebody tell me, does the AV cable audio monitoring works on 650D with ML? I mean for example when you film and connect AVC-DC400 (cable name) to the camera then connect your headphones to the AVC-DC400, can you hear the live audio from your mic (which is connected to the camera)?

So, noone can answer my question?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Kike on October 10, 2013, 11:38:18 PM

Here is my first test using RAW in the 650D. Hope you guys like it
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kajko on October 11, 2013, 09:29:45 AM
I'll do more RAW test with the latest ML version and try to find a quicker workflow using Davinci Resolve (OSx).
Maybe I'll do a complete video tutorial for RAW processing on Windows and OSX. (in French with English subtitles).

Registered to say thanks..to everyone including you for the nice tutorial so far. I would really love to see a workflow (Windows) that involved Davinci Resolve since I can get that free. Total noob just getting into videography.. nice vids!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 12, 2013, 12:31:37 PM
Bug in "Config Preset"?
Option "Startup Key" with INFO doesn't work as with PLAY/MENU:
"Config:INFO" will not be seen at startup if INFO is pressed and not shown in Prefs -> Config files
"Config preset    Startup key" should be "Config preset   Startup key   INFO"

EDIT: Shame on me, forgot to add essentials like build running. It's magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Oct12.650D104

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rafa73 on October 14, 2013, 11:32:34 PM
En mi cámara ha dejado de funcionar Live View, ni en modo video. Se queda la pantalla en negro. magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Oct09.650D104
I´m sorry, don´t speak english.
CRASH01.LOG
CRASH02.LOG
CRASH03.LOG
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on October 14, 2013, 11:37:56 PM
Questions

1.  When I set FPS override to 23.976 what i get is 23.973 <-- is this normal?

2.  in 720P mode it takes over 1000 frames to get to a write rate that is continuous (around 36.6 ish) <-- is this normal?

3.  my shoot_malloc is 30 mb but my shoot total is 95 mb.  I saw that others have talked about the shoot_malloc being 95 mb.  <-- So were they really talking total and not malloc?

Thanks

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rafa73 on October 15, 2013, 12:18:01 AM
En mi cámara ha dejado de funcionar Live View, ni en modo video. Se queda la pantalla en negro. magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Oct09.650D104
I´m sorry, don´t speak english.
CRASH01.LOG
CRASH02.LOG
CRASH03.LOG
I have to thank all the contributors of Magic Lantern for the great job they are doing.
Unfortunately my camera has had an accident when I was testing this software.
Live View has stopped working, even in video mode. The camera will lock on several occasions.
The version was October 9.
I tried to update the ML of 14 Oct. but neither works.
What I can do?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jeffadkins51 on October 15, 2013, 07:32:29 AM
I have to thank all the contributors of Magic Lantern for the great job they are doing.
Unfortunately my camera has had an accident when I was testing this software.
Live View has stopped working, even in video mode. The camera will lock on several occasions.
The version was October 9.
I tried to update the ML of 14 Oct. but neither works.
What I can do?

Does the camera still work fine if you don't run magic lantern? Try holding the SET button when you turn the camera on, or use a memory card without magic lantern on it. When you know if it works without magic lantern post back for further trouble shooting.

DISCLAIMER: I am not a member of the magic lantern team, just a comp sci major pointing out some common troubleshooting techniques until someone from the ML team shows up to try and help you out.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: red5446 on October 15, 2013, 09:07:40 AM
any progress with the pink dots in raw video?

also got an error while recording raw video. (it just switch to normal video but i can´t replicate again)

Crashlog
ASSERT: !IS_ERROR(semErr)
at ./EekoApp/Color/WB/LV/LvWbAlgorWrap.c:522, task CLR_CALC
lv:1 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : v2.3.NEXT.2013Oct15.650D104
Mercurial changeset   : 33769b32b723 (unified) tip
Built on 2013-10-15 00:55:14 UTC by [email protected]
Free Memory  : 136K + 3593K

log
Tue Oct 15 01:55:56 2013
   1029:  1263.415 [CAPD] PowerSaveTiming 2757 On:1193, Off:2695 H:528 Frame:0
   1033:  1307.906 [CAPD] PowerSaveTiming 2757 On:1193, Off:2695 H:528 Frame:0
   1039:  1334.100 [ENG] LockEng   [0x9daa10][Evf]
   1040:  1334.271 [ENG] LockEng   [0x9dab04][Evf]
   1041:  1334.760 [ENG] LockEng   [0x9dab48][Evf]
   1042:  1336.927 [ENG] LockEng   [0x9dac88][Evf]
   1043:  1337.136 [ENG] LockEng   [0x9dacec][Evf]
   1044:  1337.344 [ENG] LockEng   [0x9dade8][Evf]
   1045:  1337.617 [ENG] LockEng   [0x9dae50][Evf]
   1046:  1337.721 [ENG] LockEng   [0x9daebc][Evf]
   1047:  1337.882 [ENG] LockEng   [0x9daefc][Evf]
   1048:  1338.030 [ENG] LockEng   [0x9daf84][Evf]
   1049:  1339.084 [ENG] LockEng   [0x9dafd0][Evf]
   1057:  1353.390 [LV_AF_PATH]WriteInteg Lated!!!
   1058:  1353.457 ERROR [LV_AF_PATH]Limit Error (FES) !!!
   1067:  1382.309 [ENG] LockEng   [0x6ef510][LVFACE]
   1069:  1383.019 [GRAPH]CtrlSrv GuiCalculateRegularHistData(2652)
   1071:  1424.698 TVAF_EVAL_SINGLE
   1074:  1425.876 --  BadFrame --
   1077:  1471.531 --  BadFrame --
   1078:  1477.244 [LVCDEV] DF 43Hz:   0 50Hz:   0 60Hz:   0 74Hz:   0
   1079:  1477.282 [LVCDEV] ->FlickerStatus=0(Loop=0)
   1080:  1478.019 [GRAPH]CtrlSrv GuiCalculateRegularHistData(2652)
   1083:  1516.953 --  BadFrame --
   1086:  1562.484 --  BadFrame --
   1087:  1568.435 [LVCDEV] DF 43Hz:   0 50Hz:   0 60Hz:   0 74Hz:   0
   1088:  1568.469 [LVCDEV] ->FlickerStatus=0(Loop=1)
   1092:  1607.944 --  BadFrame --
   1094:  1609.914 [AEWB]MSLens:1,FR:30(22,22),Sensor:0,ServoAF:1 = Dig:0
   1098:  1653.515 --  BadFrame --
   1099:  1655.645 [BIND] bindReceiveSwitch (38, 1)
   1100:  1655.675 [BIND] COM_SW_SOMETHING
   1101:  1655.724 [GUI_E] GUI_Control:82 0x0
   1102:  1655.801 [BIND] bindReceiveSwitch (0, 1)
   1103:  1655.833 [GUI_E] GUI_Control:6 0x0
   1104:  1659.926 [LVCDEV] DF 43Hz:   0 50Hz:   0 60Hz:   0 74Hz:   0
   1105:  1659.962 [LVCDEV] ->FlickerStatus=0(Loop=2)
   1106:  1660.360 [GUI_M] GUICMD_PRESS_BUTTON_SOMETHING(0x0)
   1107:  1661.054 [GUI] PROP_LV_EXPOSURE_MODE [16]
   1115:  1749.751 [LVCDEV] DF 43Hz:   0 50Hz:   0 60Hz:   0 74Hz:   0
   1116:  1749.787 [LVCDEV] ->FlickerStatus=0(Loop=3)
   1124:  1841.271 [LVCDEV] DF 43Hz:   0 50Hz:   0 60Hz:   0 74Hz:   0
   1125:  1841.307 [LVCDEV] ->FlickerStatus=0(Loop=4)
   1126:  1841.356 [LVCDEV] Flicker Detect Complete:0
   1132:  1842.040 !!! icSetSearchFrameAction !!!
   1140:  1843.753 [GRAPH]CtrlSrv GuiCalculateRegularHistData(2652)
   1151:  1880.598 [ENG] UnLockEng [0x9dafd0][Evf]
   1152:  1881.162 [ENG] UnLockEng [0x9daf84][Evf]
   1153:  1881.312 [ENG] UnLockEng [0x9dab48][Evf]
   1154:  1881.555 [ENG] UnLockEng [0x9dac88][Evf]
   1155:  1881.648 [ENG] UnLockEng [0x9dacec][Evf]
   1156:  1881.788 [ENG] UnLockEng [0x9dab04][Evf]
   1157:  1881.906 [ENG] UnLockEng [0x9daa10][Evf]
   1158:  1882.077 [ENG] UnLockEng [0x9dade8][Evf]
   1159:  1882.215 [ENG] UnLockEng [0x9dae50][Evf]
   1160:  1882.334 [ENG] UnLockEng [0x9daebc][Evf]
   1161:  1882.453 [ENG] UnLockEng [0x9daefc][Evf]
   1168:  1882.908 [ENG] LockEng   [0x707170][Evf]
   1181:  1884.242 [AEWB]MSLens:1,FR:30(30,30),Sensor:0,ServoAF:1 = Dig:0
   1191:  1899.348 [ENG] UnLockEng [0x707170][Evf]
   1192:  1899.701 [CAPD] PowerSaveTiming 2022 On:1193, Off:1960 H:528 Frame:1
   1197:  1925.488 [ENG] LockEng   [0xa617f8][Evf]
   1198:  1925.647 [ENG] LockEng   [0xa6188c][Evf]
   1199:  1926.101 [ENG] LockEng   [0xa618d0][Evf]
   1200:  1928.284 [ENG] LockEng   [0xa61950][Evf]
   1201:  1928.508 [ENG] LockEng   [0xa61994][Evf]
   1202:  1928.701 [ENG] LockEng   [0xa619f0][Evf]
   1203:  1928.860 [ENG] LockEng   [0xa61a3c][Evf]
   1204:  1928.995 [ENG] LockEng   [0xa61a7c][Evf]
   1205:  1929.141 [ENG] LockEng   [0xa61ac4][Evf]
   1206:  1930.153 [ENG] LockEng   [0xa61b10][Evf]
   1207:  1930.308 [SAF]  WARNING >> Sequence Err: SAF_SetupCaptureForMovie 1
   1208:  1930.417 [ENG] UnLockEng [0x699a3c][Evf]
   1215:  1944.937 [LV_AF_PATH]WriteInteg Lated!!!
   1216:  1945.009 ERROR [LV_AF_PATH]Limit Error (FES) !!!
   1227:  1962.858 [GRAPH]CtrlSrv GuiCalculateRegularHistData(2652)
   1228:  1963.446 [GUI] CalcLvVisibleAreaSize X(40) Y(0) W(640) H(480)
   1229:  1963.468 [GUI] Avail_VisibleArea IW(720)IH(480)
   1230:  1963.489 [GUI] X(40)Y(0)AW(640)AH(480)
   1231:  1963.522 [GUI] Available_fVisibleFrame(1)
   1232:  1963.541 [GUI] Available_dwFrameType(2)
   1234:  1993.194 --  BadFrame --
   1235:  1995.698 [GUI] PROP_LV_EXPOSURE_MODE [17]
   1236:  2002.664 [GUI] SubMovieAspectLeftFrame X(0) Y(0) W(40) H(480)
   1237:  2005.955 [GUI] SubMovieAspectLeftLine X(36) Y(0) W(4) H(480)
   1238:  2006.139 [GUI] SubMovieAspectRightFrame X(680) Y(0) W(40) H(480)
   1239:  2008.962 [GUI] SubMovieAspectRightLine X(680) Y(0) W(4) H(480)
   1240:  2009.208 [GUI] SubMovieAspectUpperLine X(36) Y(-4) W(648) H(4)
   1241:  2009.359 [GUI] SubMovieAspectDownLine X(36) Y(480) W(648) H(4)
   1243:  2026.420 --  BadFrame --
   1244:  2030.392 [GRAPH]CtrlSrv GuiCalculateRegularHistData(2652)
   1245:  2037.448 [GUI_E] GUI_Control:-7 0x0
   1255:  2129.191 [AEWB]MSLens:1,FR:30(30,30),Sensor:0,ServoAF:1 = Dig:0
 
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on October 15, 2013, 09:17:26 AM
any progress with the pink dots in raw video?
The dots are still there )
We are still using PDR (which works for 650D quite fine), chroma smoothing and other workarounds.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rafa73 on October 15, 2013, 02:11:52 PM
Does the camera still work fine if you don't run magic lantern? Try holding the SET button when you turn the camera on, or use a memory card without magic lantern on it. When you know if it works without magic lantern post back for further trouble shooting.

DISCLAIMER: I am not a member of the magic lantern team, just a comp sci major pointing out some common troubleshooting techniques until someone from the ML team shows up to try and help you out.
I've done it, I put a card without ML but still the same (Live View with the black screen).
In the automatic mode if it works and when I press Play LV too.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on October 15, 2013, 02:24:06 PM
Can you try to clear camera settings from Canon menu?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rafa73 on October 15, 2013, 02:31:52 PM
Can you try to clear camera settings from Canon menu?
I have not done that. I will try to do.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rafa73 on October 15, 2013, 10:47:08 PM
Can you try to clear camera settings from Canon menu?
Problem solved. It was so simple ...! Fear gripped my.
Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on October 15, 2013, 10:52:44 PM
Now, what did you do right before you got this problem?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jeffadkins51 on October 15, 2013, 11:56:38 PM
Problem solved. It was so simple ...! Fear gripped my.
Thank you very much.

Glad to hear you got it fixed!
*makes a mental note of a good troubleshooting step*
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on October 16, 2013, 12:33:32 AM
Let me guess.
The picture was just underexposed?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: pradophoto on October 16, 2013, 06:11:23 AM
Problem solved. It was so simple ...! Fear gripped my.
Thank you very much.

Hola Rafa, que tal anda en tu cámara? yo no lo pude instalar. Bajé el .zip, lo descomprimí en la tarjeta formateada, pero cuando quiero actualizar el firwmare me sale un mensaje como que no encuentra firmware, no se que onda, después vi tus comentarios y me asusté un poco, jeje
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: christodoulidesd on October 16, 2013, 04:53:57 PM
Can't wait to turn my 650d babe into a raw monster! I have 5dmarkiii, 6d, and 7d as well but don't want to mess them up 'cause i am compltely noob when it comes to Magic Lantern...any time schedules on when is this becoming a stable release? Thanks a lot for your hard work! Cheers
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on October 16, 2013, 04:56:48 PM
http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/faq
Look at troll questions
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on October 16, 2013, 09:37:09 PM
when is this becoming a stable release? Thanks a lot for your hard work! Cheers

Aldo its an alpha, the ML software is very stable....
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on October 16, 2013, 09:53:56 PM
Aldo its an alpha, the ML software is very stable....

Solid as a rock making a living with it
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on October 16, 2013, 10:10:32 PM
Solid as a rock making a living with it

I agree, it is very stable. If only MZ wasn't flickering and audio features were enabled. That would be totally awesome.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jeffadkins51 on October 17, 2013, 04:32:23 AM
I've been running this alpha ML build on my 650D for like 2 months now and using the camera every day, I've only had it lock up once, I'd call that pretty darn stable ^^
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on October 17, 2013, 10:58:09 AM
Ok, another good news.
Thanks to mk11174, we found a timer address for 650D (0xFF527E38), and small hacks now fully working.

This gives us another tiny speed increase: 38.5 Mb/s vs previous 37.7
For example, now you can record 1504x640 (2.35:1) continiously.

When I'm using my favorite resolution 1536x640 now recording time before skipping is about 1.5 minutes, previously it was around 42-44 secs.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on October 17, 2013, 03:33:29 PM
Ok, another good news.
Thanks to mk11174, we found a timer address for 650D (0xFF527E38), and small hacks now fully working.

This gives us another tiny speed increase: 38.5 Mb/s vs previous 37.7
For example, now you can record 1504x640 (2.35:1) continiously.

When I'm using my favorite resolution 1536x640 now recording time before skipping is about 1.5 minutes, previously it was around 42-44 secs.

Rewind,

Can you share what sd card you are using.  I think I might need to buy a new one.

dave

edit: seems the most recent release failed ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on October 17, 2013, 05:04:28 PM
Can you share what sd card you are using.  I think I might need to buy a new one

Currently, I'm using the Sandisk Extreme Pro 95MB/s like in this post: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7473.msg73048#msg73048

There's nothing special about this card (it's old and i suppose discontinued), you can use any of them, which bencmarks around 40MB/s
But if you'll get Sandisks 45MB/s, be careful to tell the difference between these two: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7473.msg72697#msg72697
The one on the right is slow. You should get one with red sticker, not gold.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on October 17, 2013, 05:48:39 PM
Currently, I'm using the Sandisk Extreme Pro 95MB/s like in this post: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7473.msg73048#msg73048

There's nothing special about this card (it's old and i suppose discontinued), you can use any of them, which bencmarks around 40MB/s
But if you'll get Sandisks 45MB/s, be careful to tell the difference between these two: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7473.msg72697#msg72697
The one on the right is slow. You should get one with red sticker, not gold.

Thank you so much.  Actually I have the 45 red sticker and was thinking I was not getting good performance as it seems slow to "warm up" if that is the best phrase and peaks in the camera at 36.7. I am going to rerun the ML write test.

But the 95 is still out there and am going to consider.  thanks for supplying those links.  I knew I read them and was  trying to find them again.

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Alex N on October 17, 2013, 06:57:51 PM
I've been running this alpha ML build on my 650D for like 2 months now and using the camera every day, I've only had it lock up once, I'd call that pretty darn stable ^^
I do not know how anyone running Magic Lantern but I was his work on the 650D is not quite satisfied. Magic Zoom skips audio and nedobavili. If you turn off the screen and then climbs through the sensor on the display is what that inscription saves only reboot the machine.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Alex N on October 17, 2013, 07:02:19 PM
As it foolishly by translators work...
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kmcray on October 17, 2013, 09:30:42 PM
Not sure if anyone is aware of this, but in nightly builds it says "This build failed!". it says this for all builds, not just 650D
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on October 17, 2013, 10:34:22 PM
Here is the reason https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/1649425fcce59d6ed016fb5fa340088f4946a67a
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on October 18, 2013, 09:26:23 AM
Ok, another good news.
Thanks to mk11174, we found a timer address for 650D (0xFF527E38), and small hacks now fully working.

This gives us another tiny speed increase: 38.5 Mb/s vs previous 37.7
For example, now you can record 1504x640 (2.35:1) continiously.

When I'm using my favorite resolution 1536x640 now recording time before skipping is about 1.5 minutes, previously it was around 42-44 secs.

Rewind the maximum i get with small hacks enabled is 38.1Mb/s. And I have the 32 GB SanDisk Extreme Pro® SDHC™ UHS-I Memory Card 95Mb/s.

How do you get 38.5?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on October 18, 2013, 09:30:32 AM
Rewind the maximum i get with small hacks enabled is 38.1Mb/s. And I have the 32 GB SanDisk Extreme Pro® SDHC™ UHS-I Memory Card 95Mb/s.

How do you get 38.5?

Even 38.6 now at resolutions higher than 1536 (e.g. 18 secs of 1600x672 just like 6D )

I'm using modified raw_rec from pravdomil's source.
https://bitbucket.org/pravdomil/magic-lantern-hack/commits/all
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on October 18, 2013, 09:32:24 AM

I'm using modified raw_rec from pravdomil's source.
https://bitbucket.org/pravdomil/magic-lantern-hack/commits/all

Well even though I have no idea how would i do that, at least that gives a good explanation! thanks mate!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on October 18, 2013, 09:40:28 AM
Well even though I have no idea how would i do that, at least that gives a good explanation! thanks mate!

This version has some interesting features like various interface choices.
I also modified some things regarding resolution choices. Now I just choose vertical and horizontal resolutions separately (multiples of 16) instead of horizontal and aspect ratio.

I will perform some testing, and if the module will work stable, i then can share it with you.
(I just don't want to burn up any cameras other then mine)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on October 18, 2013, 09:43:15 AM
This version has some interesting features like various interface choices.
I also modified some things regarding resolution choices. Now I just choose vertical and horizontal resolutions separately (multiples of 16) instead of horizontal and aspect ratio.

I will perform some testing, and if the module will work stable, i then can share it with you.
(I just don't want to burn up any cameras other then mine)

Great stuff there :) Thanks for letting us know mate
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on October 18, 2013, 02:07:30 PM
Even 38.6 now at resolutions higher than 1536 (e.g. 18 secs of 1600x672 just like 6D )

I'm using modified raw_rec from pravdomil's source.
https://bitbucket.org/pravdomil/magic-lantern-hack/commits/all

Rewind,

Interesting.  I have seen this page before but under branches I do not see the 650D and never came back to look.  So  1) are you using the 60D for example and 2) where on this page is the modified raw_rec.

Thanks

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on October 18, 2013, 03:25:34 PM
Interesting.  I have seen this page before but under branches I do not see the 650D and never came back to look.  So  1) are you using the 60D for example and 2) where on this page is the modified raw_rec.

Not sure if understand you correctly.
1) 60D? No, i'm using this raw_rec for my 650D and in some cases for 550D.

2) This page is code source. You can clone it to your machine and compile for yourself just like you normally do with other sources. If you don't familiar with compiling, you can start from here:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6783.0
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on October 18, 2013, 04:49:45 PM
Not sure if understand you correctly.
1) 60D? No, i'm using this raw_rec for my 650D and in some cases for 550D.

2) This page is code source. You can clone it to your machine and compile for yourself just like you normally do with other sources. If you don't familiar with compiling, you can start from here:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6783.0

Yes I did understand that these are source codes but was thinking that I did not see 650D specific (or at least in my quick look) and was wondering if you were blending others.  But I think I understand now.  thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on October 18, 2013, 10:20:31 PM
Rewind the maximum i get with small hacks enabled is 38.1Mb/s. And I have the 32 GB SanDisk Extreme Pro® SDHC™ UHS-I Memory Card 95Mb/s.

How do you get 38.5?

Well I received my SanDisk Extreme Pro® SDHC™ UHS-I Memory Card 95Mb/s. and ML benchmarked it at 38.1 max.  Recording I get 36.9 max.  This is better than my 45mb Extreme, but do you get 38.1 while recording?

TX

dave

Modification:  I guess I do not fully understand how this works I admit.  At 1280 x 720 recording tops out at 36.8 or 9.  If I go up to say 1344 x 756 and up (just keeping the same aspect ratio 16:9 I get up to 38.7 mb/s for write (only 37.8 for the 45 card).  This is using today's  build.  I did not get this before.  Just curious why the 1280 x 720 is slower?  Anyway very cool for me.

Modification 2: What I notice is that when the settings are ok for continuous recording that the write speed tops at 36.8 or 9, so I guess for my camera that is the optimum speed for continuous.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: aguden on October 19, 2013, 01:25:01 PM
Hello All.

Been out of touch since I had shoulder surgery and been unable to use my T4i.  Wanted to catch up and get back to checking out ML Alpha.  I currently have the Aug 3rd version working and think I understand what I need to do. Download the latest Alpha.  I have 10/18. And then unzip it to the SD card and overwrite any old files.  Then delete the .FIR file in the root of the card.  There are other files from the earlier version still on the card like VRAM*.422, VRAM*.BMP. 

Just wanted to make sure I haven't missed anything since I last visited the forum.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on October 20, 2013, 08:58:29 AM
Hello All.

Been out of touch since I had shoulder surgery and been unable to use my T4i.  Wanted to catch up and get back to checking out ML Alpha.  I currently have the Aug 3rd version working and think I understand what I need to do. Download the latest Alpha.  I have 10/18. And then unzip it to the SD card and overwrite any old files.  Then delete the .FIR file in the root of the card.  There are other files from the earlier version still on the card like VRAM*.422, VRAM*.BMP. 

Just wanted to make sure I haven't missed anything since I last visited the forum.

Just remove your ml folder from the sd card, and place the new versions on the card... and you are done
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: aguden on October 20, 2013, 03:57:22 PM
And do I delete the 650D10~1.FIR from the root of the card?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on October 20, 2013, 04:10:32 PM
And do I delete the 650D10~1.FIR from the root of the card?
Correct
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: aguden on October 20, 2013, 04:14:58 PM
Ok.  Just a bit more.  I did remove the ML folder from the SD card.  When I extracted the files there was an Autoexec.bin that wanted to be replaced.  I assume the answer is yes.  And probably delete everything in the root except for the two Canon folders - DCIM and MISC? The files in the root are a couple of PDF files and a STUBTEST.log, VRAM*.422 & VRAM*.BMP. With the huge warnings I am a chicken! Never had a problem but don't want to start now!  Appreciate your patience! And thank you for you work.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on October 20, 2013, 04:17:10 PM
Ok.  Just a bit more.  I did remove the ML folder from the SD card.  When I extracted the files there was an Autoexec.bin that wanted to be replaced.  I assume the answer is yes.  And probably delete everything in the root except for the two Canon folders - DCIM and MISC? The files in the root are a couple of PDF files and a STUBTEST.log, VRAM*.422 & VRAM*.BMP. With the huge warnings I am a chicken! Never had a problem but don't want to start now!  Appreciate your patience! And thank you for you work.
replace the autoexec.bin,

The other files can be removed... 
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: aguden on October 20, 2013, 05:02:22 PM
Thanks.  Worked perfectly.  I have written up a quick note to myself for next time!  No more bothering you! The updates over the last few months look great. Now to start testing!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on October 21, 2013, 12:24:06 AM
How stable is Dual ISO for 650D atm?
And what about frying the sensor as mentioned by a1ex?  I mean if it works on one 650D it will work on all 650D or is there a little possibility that it wont work on some 650D?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on October 22, 2013, 09:46:32 AM
How stable is Dual ISO for 650D atm?
And what about frying the sensor as mentioned by a1ex?  I mean if it works on one 650D it will work on all 650D or is there a little possibility that it wont work on some 650D?

It works well on my 650, and i do not see any reason why it should not work on an other 650. Then again, this is alpha software, i you are not comfortable running bleeding edge code...  then wait for the beta... or final. 
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: navilink on October 22, 2013, 05:04:16 PM
Just installed ML on my 650D, feels awesome 8)
But now how do I uninstall it? I Googled for a while seems there's many different ways to uninstall.
What are the clear steps to cleanly uninstall ML on 650D?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on October 22, 2013, 11:02:12 PM
Just run a last firmware update.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: navilink on October 23, 2013, 05:16:45 AM
Just run a last firmware update.
you mean just re-flash/re-update the official 650D v1.0.4 firmware over it?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on October 23, 2013, 12:52:29 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on October 23, 2013, 06:55:07 PM
It works well on my 650, and i do not see any reason why it should not work on an other 650. Then again, this is alpha software, i you are not comfortable running bleeding edge code...  then wait for the beta... or final.
Yes, I think Dual ISO is ATM to hot for me.
I'll wait some time before to use it.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: RafaLibrenz on October 23, 2013, 07:07:05 PM
you mean just re-flash/re-update the official 650D v1.0.4 firmware over it?

No. To uninstall Magic Lantern from the camera (remove bootflag) you need to run firmware update with this file: magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug03.650D104.zip (at first post of this topic), and then change the shooting mode from the mode dial.

Quote
Uninstalling ML from the camera

    With a Magic Lantern card, launch the Firmware Update process and follow the instructions on-screen.
    Re-installing Canon firmware will not remove Magic Lantern.

Source of information: http://www.magiclantern.fm/install.html
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jljxafcem on October 25, 2013, 06:51:12 AM
SORRY,i am setup Magic Lantern for 650D OK
but focus peak can't use
how to do ? thank
(sorry my english not very well)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: _DK_ on October 25, 2013, 09:51:16 PM
@jljxafcem:
To use focus peaking, you have to enable it in Magic Lantern then go to your Liveview mode.
When you are in liveview you simply have to press the "Info" button until the ML overlay appears.

If you have further questions:
It could help if you write in English and in addition to it, in your mother tongue. Here are many users from all over the world, some may know your language ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on October 26, 2013, 11:24:18 PM
Alright guys, I'm gonna be heading out in a bit to get some RAW footage of a "Fire Festival" in my town tonight. I have no clue what a fire festival entails (presumably fire) but this should be a cool test of RAW in low light. I haven't been able to figure out dual ISO yet, but I may shoot some stuff with it, for no other reason than to reduce noise.

Wish me luck!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Pakos091 on October 27, 2013, 10:44:11 AM
Hi guys, I wasn't here about the last six months I'd just like to know how the things going.

Does this alpha version have problems or looks great in every field? If doesn't, finally I'd really like to try it.
By the way how far is the beta version (or the final)? What else needed to get that status?

Thank you
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on October 27, 2013, 09:23:50 PM
Hi guys, I wasn't here about the last six months I'd just like to know how the things going.

Does this alpha version have problems or looks great in every field? If doesn't, finally I'd really like to try it.
By the way how far is the beta version (or the final)? What else needed to get that status?

Thank you

Magic Zoom is flickering and audio features are disabled. Apart from these it is fully functional.

Nobody knows when they will be fixed. I am also waiting for it.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: V3-571G on October 28, 2013, 10:29:33 AM
Hi,

I asked this question a couple of months ago on another thread, but the response i received didn't really help. In movie mode you can use a special zoom feature (Can't remember what it's called) to zoom the image up to 3x the size without loosing any quality. So the 18-55mm lens on my 650d could be extended right the way up to 165mm with no quality loss whatsoever. I want to know if this feature can be used in photo mode as well? I've looked thoroughly through the menus in Magic Lantern, but i cannot see any option to enable such a feature.

Any help would be most appreciated!

Cheers.  :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on October 28, 2013, 10:46:43 AM
Common sense: do you really expect ML to turn a 18 megapixel sensor into a 162 megapixel one?!

This is exactly what you are asking for (18x3x3 = 162).
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on October 28, 2013, 11:12:05 AM
Common sense: do you really expect ML to turn a 18 megapixel sensor into a 162 megapixel one?!

This is exactly what you are asking for (18x3x3 = 162).

Come on now Alex! dont be harsh :) that sometimes happens to me as well.

You see V3-571G, When recording video the camera doesnt record in 18MP. So in order to use the whole sensor and get all the image down it does a lot resizing and some line skipping in order to get the whole frame down to 1080p. which is apprx. 2.1MP. Which means you have a lot headroom there to do lossless zoom right? So it basically records a  zoomed in image instead of the whole sensor with much less resizing. Think of it as cropping an 18MP image to 2.1MP instead of resizing it to 2.1MP.

So in the case of photo its apparent that it already uses the whole 18MP so forget zooming beyond that point!
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: killr0y on October 30, 2013, 04:28:51 AM
Keep up the good work guys ; )
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on October 31, 2013, 09:42:22 PM
I just uploaded a new RAW Video test I made, where - unfortunately - we can see a lot of aliasing & artifacts.
I'll try to get a L-Lens to compare the quality with my Sigma 18-200 in RAW/h264.

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jaegersing on November 01, 2013, 05:26:44 PM
I just uploaded a new RAW Video test I made, where - unfortunately - we can see a lot of aliasing & artifacts.
I'll try to get a L-Lens to compare the quality with my Sigma 18-200 in RAW/h264.


Thanks for posting your video test dsagilles. Do you see these artifacts on the raw video? Or on the video that you upload to Youtube? They look like compression problems to me, so I'd be very surprised if changing the lens helps much. If the raw video is clean, it would be worthwhile to try and identify at what stage these artifacts are being introduced. But if the raw video already looks like that, what is the point of shooting raw? So far I've never seen such results on any of my footage recorded as bog standard Canon mov.

Richard
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: specialist on November 02, 2013, 06:45:32 AM
I wonder if you would had better results posting it on Vimeo instead of YouTube?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Frandoll_Eye on November 02, 2013, 06:49:16 PM
Great  thanks to all dev's for their hard work!

Recently i discovered one bag (or maybe feature) using ML v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug29.650D104

Sometimes i have to shoot some long events, but 2 days ago it was the first long event with ML onboard.
I noticed that when the shoot reaches 29:59 limitation, camera just finish record and go to standby mode.(and i have to press the button to start new record and of cause no matter how quick i'll do it - i'll loose a frames between records)
The point is that when i used original Canon firmware v1.01 actually it was like there where no any 29:59 limitation - Camera starts new record automatically just after previous one reaches 29:59 and in Premiere Pro it looks like no one frame(!) is missed.
This fact actually is the main reason for me to buy 650D.

The question: Is there any way to make ML work like there is no 29:59 limit like canon v1.01 firmware works?

I am newbie as ML user and if my problem solves just by RTFM it will be pleasured to hear.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: HuxFlux on November 02, 2013, 10:17:53 PM
I just uploaded a new RAW Video test I made, where - unfortunately - we can see a lot of aliasing & artifacts.
I'll try to get a L-Lens to compare the quality with my Sigma 18-200 in RAW/h264.


Is this RAW or H.265?

video to show difference.

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: MarlonSenanayake on November 05, 2013, 01:06:59 PM
can aany one give me the download link plssss
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 05, 2013, 02:55:29 PM
Top of page -> Downloads -> Nightly Builds
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: pixelninja on November 06, 2013, 09:05:30 AM
hi guys,

Anyone want to maybe try assist me with the installation of ML for 650D 1.0.4?

I have followed the steps in the video:

, as well as the steps laid out by the OP in the thread without any success. The furthest point I get my camera to is after the installation of ML where it says reboot, then after reboot I get  to 2:09 in the youtube video and doesnt load up with the next screen.

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on November 06, 2013, 10:15:03 AM
Open the menu with the trashcan.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dsagilles on November 07, 2013, 10:44:46 AM
Thanks for posting your video test dsagilles. Do you see these artifacts on the raw video? Or on the video that you upload to Youtube? They look like compression problems to me, so I'd be very surprised if changing the lens helps much. If the raw video is clean, it would be worthwhile to try and identify at what stage these artifacts are being introduced. But if the raw video already looks like that, what is the point of shooting raw? So far I've never seen such results on any of my footage recorded as bog standard Canon mov.

Richard
The green/yellow artifacts are in the original RAW footage.
Yeah it's looks like a compression problem, but it's not the case because I have the same result on the uncompressed AVI out of After Effects.
The aliasing, the chroma smoothing and maybe a too strength color-grading aren't helping.

I think we can't see all theses artifacts on Canon MOV because of the compression, adding a global blur and maybe a kind of anti-alias is applied on the compression stage.

Is this RAW or H.265?

This is RAW. I was very surprise of the result quality too. On my previous videos I haven't shot wide scenes, so I wasn't able to see all theses problems.

It would be cool if someone could try out a RAW shot on a similar scene.
Trees seems to be the worst thing for our 650d RAW.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on November 07, 2013, 01:51:18 PM
This tutorial was made by me, is now available in English translation. Hope you like it! Thank you!

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: specialist on November 07, 2013, 04:14:05 PM
It sounds Brazilian to me!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on November 07, 2013, 06:21:37 PM
 :o Fail?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on November 07, 2013, 08:21:11 PM
I'm Brazilian! Why do you think I did the English translation manually?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: FredBiddulph on November 08, 2013, 12:38:28 PM
Hello.

I am on an Apple iMac and I've just read what I need to do to put ML on my camera SD card.

I'm sorry but I am totally lost. It started when I tried to read words I had trouble understanding.

I do want to try ML on my Canon 650D but should I wait or do I need a bigger brain for any of it?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: roxtaz on November 08, 2013, 01:13:39 PM
Actually it's quite safe and simple. I was in your position too ... but I'm very happy now and my money are spent well (on 650D). Just follow the steps in nanomad's post http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7473.0 ... but be carefully with MacBoot (http://www.zenoshrdlu.com/macboot/macboot.html) ... there's a OSX Mountain Lion version you maybe take in consideration if your OS is OS X Mountain Lion or OS X Mavericks. Everything else is very well explained.
Good luck!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: FredBiddulph on November 08, 2013, 02:03:31 PM
...but be careful with MacBook... there you go, put the jeepers up me right away.

I will read everything and digest it all and see where I get to. I can always come back here which I have and thank you.

Will let you know how I progress, I'm sure others, I can't be the only one scared speechless, will be interested in my endeavours.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Roger2004 on November 08, 2013, 10:56:40 PM
Hi everybody,
i'm having problems installing this build for my 650D.
I used to have a 550d and i installed magic lantern fine.

I followed the first post's intructions,
but downloaded the latest file :
magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Nov08.650D104

The camera says there must be some upgrade file to work,
when i try to launch the ML install.

Also, when i ran EOScard on Windows, everything was unchecked, i tried several times to low level format, reset my camera preferences (btw what's strange is that the custom menu is still here with what i had customed though) and put again ml zip file's contents on the card, but nothing works. I upgraded to 1.0.4 and followed the instructions. Any ideas ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on November 08, 2013, 11:14:28 PM
Do exacty the steps from the first post.
Including the linked ML installer build.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on November 09, 2013, 12:19:18 AM
Do exacty the steps from the first post.
Including the linked ML installer build.

follow the steps in my tutorial and you will be able to install smoothly.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Breckin98 on November 09, 2013, 12:59:56 AM
Hey,
Im having trouble with the RAW function on my canon 650d. When I record the raw on the camera it looks fine on the screen then when I take it in post i will convert it to a DNG and bring it up in after effects, then it will have a pattern of blue dots in the centern of the screen. Any thoughts to get them to go away. Thanks.

ps, It looks perfect on the h.264 format.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 09, 2013, 03:02:12 AM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.0
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on November 09, 2013, 11:56:42 AM
This is a guide for raw process.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5654.0
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Roger2004 on November 09, 2013, 02:08:43 PM
Thanks Spider & Lucawen, i just installed the version from the first post and then replaced for the latest. That was the problem. So i'm back with ML, i love movie crop mode !
Thanks again !
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on November 09, 2013, 02:57:45 PM
Thanks Spider & Lucawen, i just installed the version from the first post and then replaced for the latest. That was the problem. So i'm back with ML, i love movie crop mode !
Thanks again !

Anytime! Any problem just ask.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on November 11, 2013, 08:04:41 PM
Test raw 650D.

Edited whit
- Levels
- Curves
- Magic Bullet Colorista
- Magic Bullet Mojo

The purpose of this video is to show the potential. Editing RAW after being a movie, music video, short, etc. ...

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on November 12, 2013, 10:25:37 AM
No .RAW,
no after effects,
No levels or color balancing
no nothing...

Just EOS 650D ...  2 clips into final cut, synchronized and cut...  exported..  done...   :D


Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on November 14, 2013, 08:34:04 PM
Has anyone been successful at getting good-looking Dual ISO videos with the 650D? The tools can't seem to manage both removing the pink dots and merging the lines without one interfering with the other.

That being said, ML has been working great on my 650D and it's been a vital tool with my client work.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Roger2004 on November 16, 2013, 09:16:53 PM
Papkee, your signature isn't correctly put...
 ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: renndermonkey on November 18, 2013, 12:19:36 AM
Hey,

I've got a 650D with ML i'm using on an aerial video rig. I'm using the AV out (mini usb to rca with the AVC-DC400 cable) for my wireless video monitor. Everything works nicely until the image starts getting over exposed, then the video feed fuzzes out and acts strange. 


I saw this thread (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=2003.msg7258#msg7258) with a possible solution for the 550D, but 650D has no audio monitoring yet.

I don't need to record/monitor audio at all, but I do need a fully functioning video signal. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jaegersing on November 18, 2013, 02:21:41 AM
Hey,

I've got a 650D with ML i'm using on an aerial video rig. I'm using the AV out (mini usb to rca with the AVC-DC400 cable) for my wireless video monitor. Everything works nicely until the image starts getting over exposed, then the video feed fuzzes out and acts strange. 


I saw this thread (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=2003.msg7258#msg7258) with a possible solution for the 550D, but 650D has no audio monitoring yet.

I don't need to record/monitor audio at all, but I do need a fully functioning video signal. Any suggestions?

I've been trying to use the 650D HDMI signal out on an external monitor, but when I select the ML display on the cam (e.g. for focus assist) the bottom half of the screen is covered with noise. I would also be interested in any suggestions to improve this.

Richard
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: saha007 on November 19, 2013, 11:19:39 PM
Friend, you can make Russian version? I can do the translation, but don `t know how to insert them in ml.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Midas on November 22, 2013, 04:57:42 PM
It would be really nice to see the beta for the 650D.

Been watching this thread for months now and for me the Audio page is the one thing I really need.

It definitely has slowed down round here!  I'm not complaining as it's amazing what we do have... Just would like to see the Beta before everyone moves on to the latest Camera!

M
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: saha007 on November 22, 2013, 06:40:53 PM
I really want to help with the translation, just tell me how! Friends of Russia will all be grateful!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 22, 2013, 06:48:49 PM
Translation itself is not the problem. Read
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7850.msg69495#msg69495

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Greg on November 23, 2013, 04:50:25 PM
Can someone check on the 650D/700D? - http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8535.msg88928#msg88928
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kmcray on November 24, 2013, 06:49:46 PM
Can someone check on the 650D/700D? - http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8535.msg88928#msg88928
Greg and I tested it, it didn't work as planned, but we will keep trying to see if we can get this feature to work.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: acme on November 27, 2013, 04:40:33 PM
Attention Mac users - can someone please tell me what selections I'm supposed to make with Macboot? Most of the instructions here speak of making the card non-bootable with the Windows utility only.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ClearlyRobert on November 27, 2013, 08:52:11 PM
I have been following this thread and it's previous one for months...so I am embarrassed to ask how I find the latest stable version of the Alpha?  I have been enjoying the original version that I originally downloaded from Page 1 of the thread... but assume there is probably a better, more stable version that I could use instead of the August files.  If so, the link would be appreciated!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on November 27, 2013, 09:07:36 PM
I have been following this thread and it's previous one for months...so I am embarrassed to ask how I find the latest stable version of the Alpha?  I have been enjoying the original version that I originally downloaded from Page 1 of the thread... but assume there is probably a better, more stable version that I could use instead of the August files.  If so, the link would be appreciated!

Top of the page: downloads
http://www.magiclantern.fm/downloads.html (http://www.magiclantern.fm/downloads.html)

Scroll down to the orange button "browse nighly builds"

http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/ (http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/)

From drop down select 650d.104

Green download button..  e presto! 
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ClearlyRobert on November 27, 2013, 09:23:39 PM
Many thanks, blade!  I will assume that the latest is at least as stable as the first alpha version....thanks to everyone for all your contributions to ML for the 650D!

Robert
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: xnav on November 27, 2013, 10:39:32 PM
Hello everybody!
First of all thank you verry much for this hard and great work!
But i still have a Probleme when i try to intall magic lantern in my eos650D from my mac! everything is doing good until i have to use it!
when i go in video mode for example i press the trash button i have all ML menu (with the exposition bar blinking down??) and after that i press Trash button againe and i go back to the normal Canon view? is that normal ? on all the video i saw people have ML live view?
what i do wrong?


Thank you for your support
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 27, 2013, 10:45:08 PM
when i go in video mode for example i press the trash button i have all ML menu (with the exposition bar blinking down??) and after that i press Trash button againe and i go back to the normal Canon view? is that normal ?
Yes.

on all the video i saw people have ML live view?
Example?

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: xnav on November 27, 2013, 11:09:22 PM
thank you walter you are fast!

Like here in this video you can see it's not the canon live view we see? right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV41kV_iSNg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbu7VWXjt60

here it's not a 650D but the view have to be the same?
http://vimeo.com/74376376

i have the same menu but not the view?

help me i'm a bit lost!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: xnav on November 27, 2013, 11:15:45 PM
I'M sorry!
i just see now that i have to press info button to have this view!!!

I'M so sorry!!


Thank's again for your support!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on November 28, 2013, 03:40:43 AM
Attention Mac users - can someone please tell me what selections I'm supposed to make with Macboot? Most of the instructions here speak of making the card non-bootable with the Windows utility only.

If I remember correctly, I have only checked "Make DSLR-bootable" when using MacBoot to set the bootflag on an SD card.  Make sure you use macboot.command if you are on Lion or later as the java app must have root permissions to change the SD card as it needs to.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: acme on November 28, 2013, 06:35:59 PM
@dngrhm thanks much I'll give it a go today.  8)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on November 29, 2013, 09:34:40 AM
Many thanks, blade!  I will assume that the latest is at least as stable as the first alpha version....thanks to everyone for all your contributions to ML for the 650D!

Robert

In my experience all ML versions are stable, however, it is a development snapshot, so bugs may be present. You can always go back to a previous version! 
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Midas on November 29, 2013, 05:03:03 PM
Love ML

Does anyone know if Audio Functions will ever be available or if anybody is working on the development of this?

Thanks

M
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: bifuteki on November 30, 2013, 02:24:19 AM
Hey guys long time reader, been using my 650d for broadcasting reasons. Just wondering is there a way to stop my T4I's LiveView to stop closing? Also is there a way for me to set the HDMI out put to be a 16:9 image with out the black bars.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on December 02, 2013, 01:00:30 AM
Love ML

Does anyone know if Audio Functions will ever be available or if anybody is working on the development of this?

Thanks

M

Hey mate,

Same question asked here many times by me but devs apparently don't like such questions and categorize them as "troll questions". So they just can't give us a time frame on anything since this isn't a job for them but a hobby. You just have wait and hope one day they fix it.

I visit here and check nightly builds everyday, hoping to find something new. I suggest you the same.

http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Midas on December 02, 2013, 02:07:39 AM
Yeah.. I was quite careful not to say where is it but just... is anyone working on it.

I also started my post "Love ML" so as not to look like a troll!

I have no idea how difficult it is to implement such a thing but would love to have it!

I teach media to young people and ML has been fantastic for them too! ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: SMSabir on December 02, 2013, 02:35:03 PM
Dear Friends!

I want to ask about the current status of the ML for 650D/T4i, is it stable enough to be used for professional work?

Also is the Audio option is now working?

Thanks and sincere regards.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on December 02, 2013, 03:27:13 PM
Hey guys long time reader, been using my 650d for broadcasting reasons. Just wondering is there a way to stop my T4I's LiveView to stop closing? Also is there a way for me to set the HDMI out put to be a 16:9 image with out the black bars.
There is a setting in the Canon Menu.  It is something like Auto-off.  After a period of inactivity, the camera turns off.  There is an option for the setting for never shut off.  Hopefully that is what you mean by "stop closing".

I don't use the HDMI out. Maybe someone else can help you with that.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: dngrhm on December 02, 2013, 03:31:50 PM
Yeah.. I was quite careful not to say where is it but just... is anyone working on it.

I also started my post "Love ML" so as not to look like a troll!

I have no idea how difficult it is to implement such a thing but would love to have it!

I teach media to young people and ML has been fantastic for them too! ;D
I would say "Is somebody working on feature X?" is much better question than the typical question of "When will feature X be done?"  The first is a simple yes or no.  The second asks for an estimation and (to some level) a commitment.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on December 02, 2013, 07:27:14 PM
As canon already implemented Some audio features, inwould say that is verry low priority. Aldo you are always Welkom to implement something yourself.

It would oldo be nice if you can be more specific as to what is missing now
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on December 02, 2013, 08:05:20 PM
As canon already implemented Some audio features, inwould say that is verry low priority. Aldo you are always Welkom to implement something yourself.

It would oldo be nice if you can be more specific as to what is missing now

A little bit off subject here but hey..!

I always found it quite hypocritical (no personal offence  to you, blade) to "welcome" people to work on some feutures they like to have. I mean, if they even knew the littlest thing on how do it they would probably work on it already. People asking are usually people who not only dont have any idea on programming but maybe even sometimes dont have any idea on the backround of the stuff they are requesting.  On the other hand I know it can serve as purpose to remind people that this is done by non other than us. Anyway just blubbing on, had some beers and cant keep my mouth shut.  :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on December 02, 2013, 10:20:15 PM
ML is Great Super stable, video to models with total confidence. In fact the only audio feature I'll love to have is meters while recording , that will be very christmas
 8) :P :-*
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: brewerrj on December 03, 2013, 02:01:55 PM
ML is Great Super stable, video to models with total confidence. In fact the only audio feature I'll love to have is meters while recording , that will be very christmas
 8) :P :-*

Yes a graphical display of the recorded volume or audio output trough USB as on the 550D would be the last features I would love to have.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on December 03, 2013, 04:48:30 PM
Yes a graphical display of the recorded volume or audio output trough USB as on the 550D would be the last features I would love to have.

A fix for a flickering Magic Zoom would be awesome. It says only solution is to hardlock the UI. But i yet find out how to do that. And it flickers so bad.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on December 04, 2013, 03:26:41 AM
I've always use 16 and 8 GB SDHC Panasonic class 10 gold cards with ML , and works great however I'm considering using 32 gb cards,
and wonder if 32 gb cards could show any issues compared to 16gb or 8gb card .  Thank you in advance to any one with experience on this topic 
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: brewerrj on December 04, 2013, 04:40:22 AM
I've always use 16 and 8 GB SDHC Panasonic class 10 gold cards with ML , and works great however I'm considering using 32 gb cards,
and wonder if 32 gb cards could show any issues compared to 16gb or 8gb card .  Thank you in advance to any one with experience on this topic

my 32gb cards work fine, no different then 8 or 16.. i believe the trouble starts at 64gb!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Taynkbot on December 04, 2013, 06:24:44 AM
Maybe one of you would be kind enough to enlighten me on a problem I'm having. I can't use the set + scroll dial command, the set + erase in playback, actually none of the arrow hotkeys work for me. So what do you think my problem is? Are the features not yet added, or do I need to do something to fix it?

Also, I don't know if you guys want ideas, but I'll throw mine out there and you can take it or leave it. Would it be possible to add to the FPS Override, increasing the setting to allow a frame rate such as 128 but at a loss of resolution, possible 640X480? If you COULD add it, I would really benefit from it, if not, I'd love to understand what would prevent a mod like that.

Magic Lantern is absolutely delightful and it's been a deep pleasure exploring. I absolutely respect all of your creativity and ingenuity in writing this awesome program.  Have a fantastic week, guys!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on December 04, 2013, 06:33:15 AM
my 32gb cards work fine, no different then 8 or 16.. i believe the trouble starts at 64gb!
Thank you so will buy 32x2
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on December 05, 2013, 09:51:39 AM
There is no trouble with 64GB
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Jokemeister on December 05, 2013, 10:48:55 AM
Except all your eggs are in one basket. Aside from that, make sure you consider the read/write speeds of the card as not all class 10 cards anything near equal. I use Sandisk Extreme Pro 32GB which are 95MB/s. Using a half decent card reader on a USB3 port I get read speeds around 75MB/s sustained. Bought a second one recently.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on December 05, 2013, 04:53:09 PM
Also, I don't know if you guys want ideas, but I'll throw mine out there and you can take it or leave it. Would it be possible to add to the FPS Override, increasing the setting to allow a frame rate such as 128 but at a loss of resolution, possible 640X480? If you COULD add it, I would really benefit from it, if not, I'd love to understand what would prevent a mod like that.

If I recall it's because the sensor itself is limited to 60fps max. There've been plenty of requests for this over the years, but I'm pretty sure it's a hardware limitation.
Title: BUG
Post by: red5446 on December 06, 2013, 12:07:44 AM
-activate crop mode
-change to picture mode
-it blocks and doesn´t shot
solution: turn off and on the camera.




Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on December 16, 2013, 08:59:05 PM
MLV video is much slower than RAW.

Is it how its suppose to be or its something that will get better with time?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: michel on December 17, 2013, 06:37:36 AM
It's been some time since I checked the ML status for the EOS650D and it looks like a lot of progress in the mean time...

However, I'm still missing ETTR?

I've searched this forum post for ETTR, and some posts suggest it should be there. I've tried the latest nightly build from the official ML site, and also tried Satriani's build (as that was suggested in this forum), but in neither I can find ETTR.

Is this not supported on the EOS650D and if not; has this been scrapped for good or is there a good chance it will be coming still?

Thanks, and apologies if I am missing something obvious...
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on December 17, 2013, 07:49:36 AM
Modules -> ETTR
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on December 18, 2013, 06:53:11 PM
Guys, you can use the DSLR Controller ML in the 650D? Any app for android ML? I need to have my tablet rooted?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Philnick on December 18, 2013, 09:09:32 PM
I keep seeing that "ML audio features are not yet working" on the 650D, but never any mention of whether that means ML RAW videos are completely silent or just that they use the standard Canon audio features.

I'd experiment with ML if the Canon audio works in ML RAW video, but it would be a much harder decision if not.

By the way, the site listed at the top of this thread to grab EOSCard is totally unresponsive - at least last night and today. It just times out.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on December 18, 2013, 09:27:01 PM
By the way, the site listed at the top of this thread to grab EOSCard is totally unresponsive
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9576.msg91887#msg91887
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: _DK_ on December 19, 2013, 05:17:50 PM
Guys, you can use the DSLR Controller ML in the 650D? Any app for android ML? I need to have my tablet rooted?

First of all you won't need root.
I think it depends on what kind of tablet you have. On my x86 device it just won't do anything. However on my ARM based device it sometimes does actually work, but that is a very rare case.
Most of the time it just gives me an error message "No ML found".
I guess if you only have a x86 device you can still emulate it, to get it working. But all in all I think the problem is more likely the 650D, than the device itself.

If I am allowed to make a suggestion here: use Helicon Remote ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.HeliconSoft.HeliconRemote2&hl (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.HeliconSoft.HeliconRemote2&hl) ), it works on ARM and x86 based phones and tablets and does not depend on ML at all. Some Apps that are not free maybe offer even better service, but I have never tried them, since this is enough for me.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Frendo on December 20, 2013, 01:31:20 AM
Hi Guys is the problem with the Pink Dots still exists?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on December 20, 2013, 03:19:14 PM
First of all you won't need root.
I think it depends on what kind of tablet you have. On my x86 device it just won't do anything. However on my ARM based device it sometimes does actually work, but that is a very rare case.
Most of the time it just gives me an error message "No ML found".
I guess if you only have a x86 device you can still emulate it, to get it working. But all in all I think the problem is more likely the 650D, than the device itself.

If I am allowed to make a suggestion here: use Helicon Remote ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.HeliconSoft.HeliconRemote2&hl (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.HeliconSoft.HeliconRemote2&hl) ), it works on ARM and x86 based phones and tablets and does not depend on ML at all. Some Apps that are not free maybe offer even better service, but I have never tried them, since this is enough for me.

I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 "and I did root, used all the apps you have on the market and none of them identified my 650D ... Is it the usb cable? For the computer recognizes the camera using the same cable. ..
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Philnick on December 20, 2013, 07:49:23 PM
I keep seeing that "ML audio features are not yet working" on the 650D, but never any mention of whether that means ML RAW videos are completely silent or just that they use the standard Canon audio features.
....

Would someone who is using ML on a 650D/T4i please answer this question?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on December 20, 2013, 08:23:10 PM
The answer is in bold, on the very first topic that you should read before shooting raw: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5520

and the forum rules are here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=934
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jaegersing on December 21, 2013, 12:17:32 PM
I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 "and I did root, used all the apps you have on the market and none of them identified my 650D ... Is it the usb cable? For the computer recognizes the camera using the same cable. ..

My Samsung Galaxy 8.9 works fine with 650D (ML V2.3) using DSLR Controller.

Richard
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Createch on December 21, 2013, 03:47:08 PM
Hi everyone, recently i  have  bought canon 650d. I have found out about the release of Magic lantern Status:alpha for this model of dslr .I have heard many positive feedback about this software However i have few questions in relation to the alpha version.Is this version completely safe to install on my dslr?
Do all the original canon settings stay as they are ? like for example all the touchscreens capabilities like changing the exposure settings by touching the screen ?I just though its very fast and comfortable .I have heard that not everything works in the alpha version like all the audio features? Does that mean i wont be able to see the audio levels while recording sound? What else does not work and is it worth to install this version with missing features or is it better to white for a stabilize release 

Thank everyone waiting for response !

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on December 21, 2013, 04:28:09 PM
Is this version completely safe to install on my dslr?

No. http://www.magiclantern.fm/faq.html#q5
And this is meant for "stable" version and ML for 650D has some steps to do to achieve this status. Now it's alpha.

Do all the original canon settings stay as they are?

Yes.

Does that mean i wont be able to see the audio levels while recording sound?

No, as of today *no* ML related audio function will work. If you're shooting h.264 (= Canon's video implemantion), you have ... see answer above.
Read http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7473.0

Please read F.A.Q. and some 650D-related threads. If you have questions not already addressed you may ask again.

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Frendo on December 21, 2013, 05:11:00 PM
Hello,i have 2 Questions.

1.How can I shoot myself with exactly to Focus to my eyes (Portrait). Wich Settings can i use? As example work Follow Focus or Rack Focus ?

2.Is the Problem with the Pink Dots still exists?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on December 21, 2013, 05:17:43 PM
1.How can I shoot myself with exactly to Focus to my eyes (Portrait). Wich Settings can i use? As example work Follow Focus or Rack Focus ?

I prefer none of them. Liveview, turn the monitor to the front, focus manually with 10x enabled.

2.Is the Problem with the Pink Dots still exists?

Yes.

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: _DK_ on December 21, 2013, 05:25:42 PM
I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 "and I did root, used all the apps you have on the market and none of them identified my 650D ... Is it the usb cable? For the computer recognizes the camera using the same cable. ..

Well, I can use it on all my unrooted Android 4.0+ devices. (HTC One X+, Nextwolf 7, Asus Memopad FHD 10 the one with the x86 cpu). Root does not change that (checked it).
Only for the ones that don't support OTG Host, you will need root, to "unlock" the USB host function.
Maybe you should try it on a different device? If This does not work, it might be your cable. I use the original cable that came with the Camera, and a 4€ OTG host cable from Amazon.
Maybe there is even something messed up with the host function, if you use custom roms and different kernels.

However I still wonder why the ML app does not recognize the 650D. Maybe it has something to do with the 650D beeing in a alpha state. Or simply you need to adjust the App. I don't know for sure...
I am not even sure who develops the ML app.


@Frendo:
1: Are you talking about pictures? Flip the touchscreen and touch your eyes to focus. That should be all you need.
2: Yes, but you can easily remove it, with a few simple steps.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Frendo on December 22, 2013, 03:08:50 PM
@_DK_

Hi DK

1: Are you talking about pictures? Flip the touchscreen and touch your eyes to focus. That should be all you need.
2: Yes, but you can easily remove it, with a few simple steps.

1.Yes i talk about Picutres and  Videos.When i flip the Touchscreen,and touch the the Focus to my eyes,and when i walk back,do u think its works???U know the best Pictures is when u focus your eyes :-)

2.u mean Pinkdotremover right? http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658.0
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on December 23, 2013, 09:17:19 PM
i buy the TL router for use the DSLR Controller via Wifi, and WORKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's possible to use 1080p in 60Fps in 650D?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on December 23, 2013, 09:20:40 PM

No, as of today *no* ML related audio function will work. If you're shooting h.264 (= Canon's video implemantion), you have ... see answer above.
Read http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7473.0

Please read F.A.Q. and some 650D-related threads. If you have questions not already addressed you may ask again.

Ciao
Walter

I do not understand what you said, means that we can use the HUD audio or still not ready?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on December 23, 2013, 11:13:00 PM
With or without ML the audio features are exactly the same.
And while recording raw videos there is no audio, but without ML there is no raw video.

So you can say in general ML gives you no new audio features but it also does not remove audio features.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on December 23, 2013, 11:42:36 PM
With or without ML the audio features are exactly the same.
And while recording raw videos there is no audio, but without ML there is no raw video.

So you can say in general ML gives you no new audio features but it also does not remove audio features.

Exactly! I hope that in 2014 this option is available or 650D is the list of supported cameras ..

But the main thing, we already have 80% of ML now available for 650D, and both I and all those who use the alpha we wanted to know a percentage or all that remains to be implemented, some being released by this developer alpha.

Thanks ...
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on December 24, 2013, 11:45:45 PM
Exactly! I hope that in 2014 this option is available or 650D is the list of supported cameras ..

But the main thing, we already have 80% of ML now available for 650D, and both I and all those who use the alpha we wanted to know a percentage or all that remains to be implemented, some being released by this developer alpha.

Thanks ...

Couldn't agree more. Need moar 650D implementations...!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ric on December 25, 2013, 05:57:51 PM
Im using Nightly build magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Dec25.650D104

got few questions:

1. How to change clock time?

2. Elapsed time not showing? (No matter which Time Indicator type i choose...its not showing)

3. The camera gets hot pretty fast....is it normal?

anyway...i love the LCD sensor shortcuts...its awesome!


thanks ML team
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Toast on December 29, 2013, 11:39:48 AM
Hi,

is there a way to show the overlay (especially focus peak) in play mode? It was possible sometime ago, don't know how to do it now.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on December 30, 2013, 11:16:47 PM
Im using Nightly build magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Dec25.650D104

got few questions:

1. How to change clock time?

2. Elapsed time not showing? (No matter which Time Indicator type i choose...its not showing)

3. The camera gets hot pretty fast....is it normal?

anyway...i love the LCD sensor shortcuts...its awesome!


thanks ML team

1. just use the normal canon menu

2. is the overlay showing  at all?

3. how hot is hot? it should not get very hot! Does it also get hot without ML

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: maiet on December 31, 2013, 12:44:31 PM
Hi Guys,

ML Newby,

Am might be stupid, but has anyone got the link for the 650d ML firmware? and does anyone know if the sound monitoring issues have been resolved?

Thanks

M
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Fuma on December 31, 2013, 01:18:36 PM
@maiet
http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/
Choose in the Drop-Down Menu the 650D.104
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ric on December 31, 2013, 04:00:17 PM
1. just use the normal canon menu

2. is the overlay showing  at all?

3. how hot is hot? it should not get very hot! Does it also get hot without ML

The clock time remains the same after i changed it in canon menu. The time is different from the canon menu though.

The rest is showing while recording. But not the time indicator.

It became 50 degrees after 20 minutes on video mode. The camera became pretty warm, not so warm before using ML. (Image below was taken shortly after i switched on my camera)

Thanks blade.

(http://i.imgur.com/Yy5FSHh.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: CKLAslan on December 31, 2013, 08:47:42 PM
Will the latest builds work on an Eye-Fi Pro X2 card ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on January 01, 2014, 08:09:38 AM
Im curious do these builds support ML Controller?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527773
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: GerardMT on January 02, 2014, 03:36:52 AM
Hi,

This week I installed the Alpha version in my 650D and I have to say that ML is amazing!

Do you recomend to use the Nightly Builds?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Grizraz on January 02, 2014, 10:39:39 AM
I miss the Trap Focus option, haven't seen it in awhile.  Hoping this works its way back into the nightly builds... unless I'm missing something...
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 02, 2014, 10:46:56 AM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3697.msg44640#msg44640
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Grizraz on January 02, 2014, 09:02:53 PM
Thanks for the link to the statement regarding trap focus  :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Ranga on January 03, 2014, 06:21:36 AM
Hi
It seems the pel.hu/eoscard/ site is offline. Does anyone know another way to get the eoscard utility?
Cheers
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 03, 2014, 09:25:30 AM
http://pel.bencemate.com/eoscard/
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Ranga on January 03, 2014, 12:26:46 PM
Thanks Walter!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: SKiD on January 03, 2014, 07:52:15 PM
I have also problem with temperature over 50°C using ML 2014-01-03 02:55:09
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on January 03, 2014, 09:55:41 PM
I have also problem with temperature over 50°C using ML 2014-01-03 02:55:09

So what? I've seen mine go over 54°C as I was vlogging. Nothing's burnt.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: renfes130 on January 04, 2014, 11:14:57 PM
Hi!

Got a problem here ::)

I've just installed the update from 1.0.1 to 1.0.4 with a 16Gb card and everything is working, but until now (with 1.0.1 version) i've been working with a 64Gb without any flaws, but now the camera doesn't recognize ML on it.

I copied de ML folder and boot flagged it as the instructions say, but the camera loads the card as if ML was not on it. (It's a 30mbps SDXC card).

Any ideas???

THX
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on January 05, 2014, 01:12:38 AM
It seems so that the card isn't bootable. Try Eoscard again.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: renfes130 on January 05, 2014, 01:41:10 PM
I tried again, EosCard says "Write successful"

Still not working  :o

I only check BOOTDISK, ¿should I check EOS_DEVELOP too?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: RenatoPhoto on January 05, 2014, 02:48:29 PM
Make sure EOS Develop box is selected, Bootdisk box is selected and simply click on Save.  If all goes well the card will be made bootable and a "write sucessfull" message will appear on the bottom of EOScard.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: renfes130 on January 05, 2014, 05:46:34 PM
Ok, I've done that. It creates a "Autoexec.bin" file and now the camera does not start up. I extract the battery, re-insert it and the camera does not start up either.


 ??? ? ? ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Midas on January 05, 2014, 07:10:29 PM
I see there has been a small amount of progress on the Canon 700D with audio functions.

This would be so good if they could be implemented on the 650D.

I'm not trolling.... Love ML.... But it would be Happy Days to have some audio functions!

I've been eagerly awaiting some news on this... getting ready to move on now and buy the new Zoom H6

Magic lantern for Prime minister!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: RenatoPhoto on January 05, 2014, 08:28:26 PM
Ok, I've done that. It creates a "Autoexec.bin" file and now the camera does not start up. I extract the battery, re-insert it and the camera does not start up either.

If EOScard.exe installs wrong ML files, just delete them and put the latest ML files, that is autoexec.exe and ML folder
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: renfes130 on January 05, 2014, 10:32:03 PM
Thanks bro!!! ;D ;D ;D That worked! At last!!!

Solved, thanks everyone ;) :D
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: HrRaiko on January 06, 2014, 09:59:21 PM
Hey
Why i dont have RAW video option on my 650D 1.0.4 with newest ML?

And is there any way to get audio meter on my display?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 06, 2014, 10:02:03 PM
Because you have to access the Module tab, activate RAW_REC, restart the cam to enable this option.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: HrRaiko on January 06, 2014, 10:04:48 PM
Because you have to access the Module tab, activate RAW_REC, restart the cam to enable this option.
Thanks man! :P
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 07, 2014, 04:50:29 PM
Just curious if these changes I did on the 700D will get the beep, meters and mlv_snd going on your 650D, I don't have a 650D, but I did have the firmware to get the stubs made for it.

On the 700D we have Beep, and meters, but only when recording, and it allows mlv_snd to record sound in mlv_rec module.

UPDATE: Link no longer good, but should be in nightly soon since I commited everything needed and was merged. 8]
https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/magic-lantern/downloads/ML_650D_ML_Audio_Jan_7_2014.zip
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on January 07, 2014, 10:34:08 PM
Yes Sir does work, as you said only while recording but before recording I adjusted levels in the native Canon Audio control. Thank you if any bug I'll let you know
External mic works like a charm
By the way the sensor shortcut to adjust levels while recording doesn't work :-*
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 07, 2014, 11:06:15 PM
Yes Sir does work, as you said only while recording but before recording I adjusted levels in the native Canon Audio control. Thank you if any bug I'll let you know
External mic works like a charm :-*
Wow, that is great news! Thanks for letting me know it worked ok!

I have not had any issues yet, but since both 700D and 650 are new ports there will always be some, but so far seem stable. Never would of thought we would be at a point to record 1280x720 in Raw using mlv_rec and now having sound with it is even more exciting.

Beep I guess is not exciting news, but I use it with the Bolt Trigger so it is vital for my needs when I am not close to camera.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on January 08, 2014, 07:12:24 AM
oh my god mk11174 im a long time reader but i just made an account just to say thank you so much for this audio module! ive been waiting for this and it works great!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 08, 2014, 07:54:37 AM
oh my god mk11174 im a long time reader but i just made an account just to say thank you so much for this audio module! ive been waiting for this and it works great!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Thats great!
Here are the Audio Stubs I added, not all are used for just the meters and mlv_snd but I found them anyway just in case needed in future if someone gets the patches made up to turn on more ML Audio features.

Maybe someone can add them to the repo so will be available in nightly builds?

stubs.s
/** Audio **/
NSTUB(0xFF335394, _audio_ic_write)
NSTUB(0xFF3359E0, _audio_ic_read)

NSTUB(0xFF10A9D0, sounddev_task )
NSTUB(   0x239E4, sounddev )
NSTUB(0xFF10AEBC, sounddev_active_in)

NSTUB(0xFF10B6F4, SoundDevStopIn)
NSTUB(0xFF10B7C4, SoundDevStopOut)

NSTUB(0xFF10AEBC, SoundDevActiveIn)
NSTUB(0xFF10B118, SoundDevActiveOut)
NSTUB(0xFF10B0D8, SoundDevShutDownIn)

NSTUB(0xFF1326EC, send_audio)

NSTUB(0xFF7F27F4, audio_thresholds)

internals.h
#define CONFIG_BEEP

features.h
#define FEATURE_AUDIO_METERS
#define FEATURE_BEEP

Also need to remove defined(CONFIG_650D) from audio-common.c  in line 8 to correct threshold error when compiling.

UPDATE: I already merged changes 8]
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: HrRaiko on January 08, 2014, 09:07:06 AM
Just curious if these changes I did on the 700D will get the beep, meters and mlv_snd going on your 650D, I don't have a 650D, but I did have the firmware to get the stubs made for it.

On the 700D we have Beep, and meters, but only when recording, and it allows mlv_snd to record sound in mlv_rec module.

https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/magic-lantern/downloads/ML_650D_ML_Audio_Jan_7_2014.zip

This is perfect! Thanks a lot ;)
When its added to Nightly Builds updates?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 08, 2014, 10:25:43 AM
I went and committed the changes, if it merges maybe will be ready to go in the nightly as well.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on January 08, 2014, 01:04:00 PM
is there anyway well be seeing any other audio updates from this? analog gain and such? or is that not needed with the in camera canon menu on the t4i?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 08, 2014, 01:29:59 PM
is there anyway well be seeing any other audio updates from this? analog gain and such? or is that not needed with the in camera canon menu on the t4i?
Probably not for awhile, I believe only 1% has been working on other cameras with the same audio chip, code needs to be re-written to make all those features work with ML.

Adding the stubs was just a tiny first step, but at least we will have sound with mlv_rec, that is huge in my eyes.

But yeah, we do have the audio features in Canon menu, so not really needed I guess.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on January 08, 2014, 02:38:29 PM
Probably not for awhile, I believe only 1% has been working on other cameras with the same audio chip, code needs to be re-written to make all those features work with ML.

Adding the stubs was just a tiny first step, but at least we will have sound with mlv_rec, that is huge in my eyes.

But yeah, we do have the audio features in Canon menu, so not really needed I guess.
Meters are a huge advancement for me , do you think adjusting levels while recording is possible in the near future ? Again thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: brewerrj on January 08, 2014, 07:59:34 PM
Just curious if these changes I did on the 700D will get the beep, meters and mlv_snd going on your 650D, I don't have a 650D, but I did have the firmware to get the stubs made for it.

On the 700D we have Beep, and meters, but only when recording, and it allows mlv_snd to record sound in mlv_rec module.

https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/magic-lantern/downloads/ML_650D_ML_Audio_Jan_7_2014.zip

YEAH! Thank you!! 8)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Roger2004 on January 08, 2014, 08:04:20 PM
Just to say i froze my 650d just by zooming in raw mode (digital zoom to focus) and launched the recording, it froze it & i had to remove the battery and power off / on. I hope this helps if this isn't a know bug. Thanks a lot anyway to the ML team for their unbelievable work...!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 08, 2014, 10:29:10 PM
Just to say i froze my 650d just by zooming in raw mode (digital zoom to focus) and launched the recording, it froze it & i had to remove the battery and power off / on. I hope this helps if this isn't a know bug. Thanks a lot anyway to the ML team for their unbelievable work...!
I don't think it is known, I can't make it happen myself by using that procedure, so that for sure could be anything causing it. Thanks for the update! Ooops, wrong thread for me, I have 700D and was trying to use that procedure to make it freeze with no luck, or I guess that would be good luck for me 8] Don't think it would be audio related at least, but could be anything for sure.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on January 09, 2014, 06:49:26 AM
I have to also say my thanks in this big leap for the movie side of Magic Lantern, getting those audio meters to work, thank you thank you thank you.

Not to say that all the amazing work that the other devs have done has gone un-noticed I use many of them on a daily basis so a big thanks to you guys as well. ^_^
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on January 09, 2014, 06:55:02 AM
I went and committed the changes, if it merges maybe will be ready to go in the nightly as well.
they put the audio meters and beep into the nightly but the auido for raw is missing
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 09, 2014, 10:17:59 AM
they put the audio meters and beep into the nightly but the auido for raw is missing
you just need the mlv_snd module, stay up to date on the latest here.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7122.msg59525#msg59525 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7122.msg59525#msg59525)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: claudelec on January 09, 2014, 11:06:12 AM
For last Nightly build: Sound menu returned... :) :) :).. but module menu disappeared :( :( :(
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on January 09, 2014, 11:57:10 AM
For last Nightly build: Sound menu returned... :) :) :).. but module menu disappeared :( :( :(
ive noticed my mod menu often chooses when to show itself i usually just restart my camera and itll be there again
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on January 09, 2014, 12:02:40 PM
Can you reproduce it? (how?)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 09, 2014, 12:17:09 PM
For last Nightly build: Sound menu returned... :) :) :).. but module menu disappeared :( :( :(
Maybe a crash before hand u did not catch, or maybe you need to start fresh and get rid of ML folder and put new one on clean. Module menu should be there though for sure.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Unai on January 09, 2014, 01:21:44 PM
Wow, audio features!!! This is awesome, I just wanted to say a huge THANK YOU to all the people making this possible.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: claudelec on January 09, 2014, 05:20:11 PM
After verification:  nightly build of 01/08 is ok for modules, and when i replace by 01/09 files, Modules menu disappear .
Wait for your comments, and many thanks for all this work... :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: kazeone on January 09, 2014, 07:17:00 PM
After verification:  nightly build of 01/08 is ok for modules, and when i replace by 01/09 files, Modules menu disappear .
Wait for your comments, and many thanks for all this work... :)

When I first loaded 01/09 I had modules but then when I powered on and off the camera again it disappeared and hasnt come back...
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 09, 2014, 07:46:03 PM
Strange things happening indeed. Played around with module section and it disappeared several times. Could bring it back by overwriting MAGIC.CFG and CURRENT.SET with older versions. Sometimes it worked again after changing the config preset (I have about half a dozen stored).
Thought at first it might be the section can be forced to disappear by deactivating all modules but this was just a coincidence, I believe.

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: HrRaiko on January 09, 2014, 08:34:23 PM
When I first loaded 01/09 I had modules but then when I powered on and off the camera again it disappeared and hasnt come back...
Hmm, I dont have any problems with modules section atm
Edit: Ok - now it's gone...
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on January 09, 2014, 08:51:11 PM
If anyone of you can compile the source code, can you run "hg bisect" to identify the exact change that broke it?

If you can reproduce it on other cameras, I can take a look.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 09, 2014, 08:55:28 PM
If I play around with 2 or 3 config presets menu toggles module tab on/off without any logic. Everytime I thought to have something reproducable ... busted.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on January 09, 2014, 09:00:57 PM
It happens only on 650D, or also on other cameras?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on January 09, 2014, 09:01:21 PM
Audio Features YAY! I'm so happy! Love you guys!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 09, 2014, 09:08:40 PM
It happens only on 650D, or also on other cameras?

Tested it on today's 7D (ML). Created 3 presets and switch back and forth and on/off but menu tab is just there all the time.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on January 09, 2014, 09:30:39 PM
Can you try without loading any module? Just to make sure the problem is in the core and not caused by some module.

If it's in the core, I would try to undefine CONFIG_BEEP in internals.h. I don't see the connection, but this thing makes some low-level calls; from the recent changes, this one seems the most "aggressive".
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 09, 2014, 09:35:54 PM
Tried with two presets and no modules activated. After some fooling around the tab went missing.
EDIT: Not running a developer's environment and therefore not able to compile anything.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 09, 2014, 11:01:47 PM
Can you try without loading any module? Just to make sure the problem is in the core and not caused by some module.

If it's in the core, I would try to undefine CONFIG_BEEP in internals.h. I don't see the connection, but this thing makes some low-level calls; from the recent changes, this one seems the most "aggressive".
No troubles with same changes on 700D and noone seemed to have any issues with the version I compiled for the 650D, but maybe just not enough testers at that time? But stable on 700D at least.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on January 09, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
hmm,

What I am missing.  I have not updated since October and just did todays.  I see the sound stuff but raw mode etc is gone.  Confused.

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 09, 2014, 11:30:43 PM
Are you able to give more details?
Do you have no "Modules" tab or is the module tab present but RAW_REC.MO is missing.
If first: Seems to be a bug. Try to restart several times and there is a chance module tab will be shown.

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on January 09, 2014, 11:31:44 PM
hmm,

What I am missing.  I have not updated since October and just did todays.  I see the sound stuff but raw mode etc is gone.  Confused.

dave

When back to Nov (sorry not Oct) and worked fine.  The module symbol was there and I could load them.  For me there is no module symbol to load the various modules.  The modules are in the ML folder however.  I must have missed something in reading all the posts on this.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on January 09, 2014, 11:34:00 PM
Are you able to give more details?
Do you have no "Modules" tab or is the module tab present but RAW_REC.MO is missing.
If first: Seems to be a bug. Try to restart several times and there is a chance module tab will be shown.

Hi Walter,

In addition to my post above I tried what you said about restarting and no icon.

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 09, 2014, 11:35:22 PM
"Several times". Don't give up. Restart, restart, restart!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on January 09, 2014, 11:36:23 PM
"Several times". Don't give up. Restart, restart, restart!

ok ok :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on January 09, 2014, 11:37:58 PM
ok ok :)

ok took 10 restarts for me.  Weird
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: claudelec on January 09, 2014, 11:38:19 PM
On my 650D, Modules tab is missing.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on January 09, 2014, 11:39:36 PM
ok took 10 restarts for me.  Weird

ah but on the next set of restarts was gone again.  I think something is wrong
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 09, 2014, 11:40:13 PM
That's why I called it a bug.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on January 09, 2014, 11:43:43 PM
That's why I called it a bug.

Ha I know.  So is something to be reported or having just discussed this is does the report? 

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 09, 2014, 11:47:29 PM
A1ex is involved and he has a suggestion.
Are you able to compile your own build?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davidtlong on January 10, 2014, 12:03:10 AM
A1ex is involved and he has a suggestion.
Are you able to compile your own build?

Sorry for delay in my response.  Not at this time unfortunately.

dave
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 10, 2014, 05:58:22 AM
Hope to relieve Alex from scratching his head.

Here is a compile of latest using modules from nightly plus the mlv_snd added in.

First, delete ML folder and current autoexec.bin from CARD before doing each test, and test many times by restarting cam many time to check for Modules Icon.

Here is compile with CONFIG_BEEP
https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_with_CONFIG_BEEP_Jan_9_2014.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_with_CONFIG_BEEP_Jan_9_2014.zip)

Here is without CONFIG_BEEP
https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_without_CONFIG_BEEP_Jan_9_2014.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_without_CONFIG_BEEP_Jan_9_2014.zip)

Alex is guessing this may be the issue.

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: HrRaiko on January 10, 2014, 08:12:12 AM
Hope to relieve Alex from scratching his head.

Here is a compile of latest using modules from nightly plus the mlv_snd added in.

First, delete ML folder and current autoexec.bin from CARD before doing each test, and test many times by restarting cam many time to check for Modules Icon.

Here is compile with CONFIG_BEEP
https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_with_CONFIG_BEEP_Jan_9_2014.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_with_CONFIG_BEEP_Jan_9_2014.zip)

Here is without CONFIG_BEEP
https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_without_CONFIG_BEEP_Jan_9_2014.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_without_CONFIG_BEEP_Jan_9_2014.zip)

Alex is guessing this may be the issue.

Is this for module section problem? I tried without beep, turned mlv_snd on and got error.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 10, 2014, 08:44:14 AM
Is this for module section problem? I tried without beep, turned mlv_snd on and got error.
Yes, just suppose to see if Module tab magically disappears, dont worry bout mlv_snd error for now. dont even bother wih modules unless you want to debug by loading some and do a few restarts and see if anything makes module menu vanish in either the build with COFIG_BEEP  or without it.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 10, 2014, 12:14:43 PM
Cannot test right now because my 650D stayed at home.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 10, 2014, 07:39:00 PM
Here is compile with CONFIG_BEEP
https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_with_CONFIG_BEEP_Jan_9_2014.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_with_CONFIG_BEEP_Jan_9_2014.zip)

Here is without CONFIG_BEEP
https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_without_CONFIG_BEEP_Jan_9_2014.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_without_CONFIG_BEEP_Jan_9_2014.zip)

Have to confess: I just copied files over without deleting ML folder. First tried without_CONFIG_BEEP and menu tab won't disappear.
Copied with_CONFIG_BEEP over and menu tab was *not* present after cam booted the very first time.
Copied without_CONFIG_BEEP over and menu tab is there. Turned cam off/on and ... menu tab is there. Retried: Good again.

That's all, folks!

Ciao
Walter

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 10, 2014, 09:17:12 PM
Have to confess: I just copied files over without deleting ML folder. First tried without_CONFIG_BEEP and menu tab won't disappear.
Copied with_CONFIG_BEEP over and menu tab was *not* present after cam booted the very first time.
Copied without_CONFIG_BEEP over and menu tab is there. Turned cam off/on and ... menu tab is there. Retried: Good again.

That's all, folks!

Ciao
Walter
So looks like config_beep is the bad guy like alex thought!, so for now i guess it will have to get taken off for your cam.

By the way, how does mlv_rec and mlv_snd work?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 10, 2014, 10:08:44 PM
By the way, how does mlv_rec and mlv_snd work?

Didn't go there yet.

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on January 10, 2014, 10:12:28 PM
Good, now to narrow down the bug:

- comment out INIT_FUNC("beep.init", beep_init);
- comment out TASK_CREATE( "beep_task"...)
- replace "CONFIG_INT("beep.enabled", beep_enabled, 1);" with "int beep_enabled = 0;

At this point, all beep functions should be inactive, so it should no longer have side effects. Make sure this is true.

Then, enable the above stuff one by one (starting with the first one).
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 10, 2014, 10:14:13 PM
Didn't go there yet.

Ciao
Walter
After playing around on my 700d just now, I noticed that when I run a beep in a loop it slows my live view a bit on every beep, but interesting, if I set beep to off in the sound menu, it crashes camera, no beep is heard but after 2 seconds while I am forcing a beep even though I set it to off in menu, it crashes, so the beep is def flakey on my cam to. It does not interfere with my Module menu loading at least but clearly it is being buggy.

So I will take away beep from my cam too I think just to be on safe side.

This does not affect mlv_snd with mlv_rec though, all still works fine, I still get sound, you just wont have any audio menu until you enable mlv_rec and mlv_snd in the modules menu.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 10, 2014, 10:14:59 PM
Good, now to narrow down the bug:

- comment out INIT_FUNC("beep.init", beep_init);
- comment out TASK_CREATE( "beep_task"...)
- replace "CONFIG_INT("beep.enabled", beep_enabled, 1);" with "int beep_enabled = 0;

At this point, all beep functions should be inactive, so it should no longer have side effects. Make sure this is true.

Then, enable the above stuff one by one (starting with the first one).
ok, will do!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on January 10, 2014, 10:20:53 PM
it slows my live view a bit on every beep

This is not normal. Maybe some stub is wrong? (not sure where to look, need to debug the code step by step and see where it breaks). For starters, go to beep_task, where you see if (beep_type == BEEP_SHORT), and comment out play_beep. It should work fine, no low-level calls are made before this. If it doesn't work, it's probably a task priority issue.

Quote
but interesting, if I set beep to off in the sound menu, it crashes camera

When you disable beep, the beep calls will do nothing else than blinking the LED. Make sure blinking works (e.g. from don't click me).
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 11, 2014, 01:33:02 AM
This is not normal. Maybe some stub is wrong? (not sure where to look, need to debug the code step by step and see where it breaks). For starters, go to beep_task, where you see if (beep_type == BEEP_SHORT), and comment out play_beep. It should work fine, no low-level calls are made before this. If it doesn't work, it's probably a task priority issue.

When you disable beep, the beep calls will do nothing else than blinking the LED. Make sure blinking works (e.g. from don't click me).
Hmm, well, I guess I should not say that the beep normally crashes it, because it is only when I am using beep with bolt trigger which also is enabling the old raw_rec, and while that is going and beeping on detections then that is when live view stutters during beeps and if I am running this and go to ML Beep menu and turn Beep to off then it crashes err70 in 2 seconds.

But if I am not using bolt trigger and just playing a beep then all is fine, so I guess it was not as bad as I thought.

I will change the code for the 650D and let the testers with the cam try it out and will try to solve the Modules menu thing first.

UPDATE! It was not the beep at all crashing my cam during the bolt trigger beep for sure, cause I changed changed beep to blink so during detection it would blink instead of beep and it pauses the live view screen each detection and if you do detection constant more then 2 seconds it crashes just like with beep.

I personally added beep(); in the code during detections, so it is probably just the way the module is set up that it does not really do good with an extra command going on during detections, this actually was unstable in 600D as well last year when I used it, only cam that handled beep stable during detections was 550D and 5D MarkII that I know of.

So at least rules out beep was messing things up for me anyway.

Now to figure out what is killing modules menu for 650D

Not really worried about the beep yet, unless this whole thing is a wrong stub even though it is working, but if you think a stub might be wrong, then maybe its off a bit. But first things fist, let me make the changes and let the testers check the 650D since I dont have one.

Blink test went fine I looped it 20 times in Dont click me
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 11, 2014, 02:34:14 AM
Ok, here are all the tests a few people need to try for alex.

Start with test 1 and restart cam a few times to make sure module menu stays put.

If test 1 passes, go to test 2 and keep going till one finally gets rid of the Modules menu and stop there and report back which one did it, dont bother going onto next test.

https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_Jan_9_2014_Tests.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_Jan_9_2014_Tests.zip)

And I know I named the files 9th, I did not realize it was the 10th lol
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: HrRaiko on January 11, 2014, 03:42:58 AM
By the way, how does mlv_rec and mlv_snd work?
Works perfect ;)

Edit: U guys need to add some"thanks" buttons or something to this forum :D
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: pdamico21 on January 11, 2014, 05:44:54 AM
Hello!
I just wanted to say thank you to the people at ML for creating all this cool software that enables so many great features that would otherwise be out of reach for people like me (the no budget movie maker!).  From what I understand, most of you do this on your spare time and work on donations, so that is just awesome of you guys to do that.  I will definitely be donating!  I have been using ML for a couple of months now, and it has really helped bring my movies to a whole new level.  I just did my first nightly build update today, and I see that the audio is now enabled!  Thank you!  You guys rock, keep up the good work! :D
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 11, 2014, 07:10:30 AM
If test 1 passes, go to test 2 and keep going till one finally gets rid of the Modules menu and stop there and report back which one did it, dont bother going onto next test.

Test 1+2: No err
Test 3: Menu tab there/not there and unpredictable so.
Back to Test 2: Fine again.
Skipped Test 4 because was told to do so.

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on January 11, 2014, 08:10:02 AM
Okay, so the failed test is when starting beep_task (which does nothing, just waits for beep requests). Maybe we have hit the limit of how many tasks we can start?

Can you post screenshots of the task list from Debug menu?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 11, 2014, 08:39:06 AM
Zipped Screenshots (http://fbe.am/qbM)

VRAM4 + 5: Test 2, all modules loaded
VRAM6 + 7: Test 2, no module loaded
VRAM8 + 9: Test 3, module tab absent
VRAM10 + 11: Test 3, module tab present
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on January 11, 2014, 08:45:18 AM
Indeed, module_task is missing.

This means some other things that start new tasks (e.g. auto expo, raw recording, don't click me) will have the same trouble.

On "don't click me" you have a memory backend test (once you run it, you will get a double free error - this means the test worked and the backend caught the error). If my theory is correct, this test should be inconsistent too.

Hmm, well, I guess I should not say that the beep normally crashes it, because it is only when I am using beep with bolt trigger

This explains it. From vsync hooks you should not do anything that takes longer than say 1-2 miliseconds (this code runs on Canon's LiveView task).
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 11, 2014, 09:02:50 AM
Not sure if I got this one.

Used "Test 3", module tab present and hit "Don't click me!" several times
Used "Test 3", module tab absent and hit "Don't click me!" several times
Used "Test 2", hit "Don't click me!" several times

Results are all the same: "Memory Error > double free
No difference at all.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on January 11, 2014, 09:28:29 AM
Correct; after startup, ML will shutdown the loader task.

You can try to start a redraw test and a rectangle test; see if you can start both of them (each one runs in its own task). If both are running fine (you can tell the difference from how the screen is refreshing), hit "don't click me" while these two are running. See if you can get the double free error.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 11, 2014, 09:46:13 AM
To make sure I understand how rectangle and redraw tests are working together:
Run rectangle alone and random rectangles appear on the screen, overwriting each other.
Run rectangle together with redraw and random rectangles will appear but only the last one will be drawn. No overwriting.
Correct?

Rectangle and redraw are running and after hitting "Don't click me!" I have to hit the trashcan button to access the debug tab again. And there I'm getting "Memory Error > double free". All the time, with Test 2 and Test 3 (with/without module tab).
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on January 11, 2014, 10:06:26 AM
Yes, you ran the tests correctly, and you have started 3 extra tasks. So, my hypothesis about task limit was probably not correct.

@mk: can you start the beep_task with its code replaced to an empty loop like this?

Code: [Select]
static void beep_task()
{
    while(1) msleep(100);
}
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 11, 2014, 12:08:55 PM
Yes, you ran the tests correctly, and you have started 3 extra tasks. So, my hypothesis about task limit was probably not correct.

@mk: can you start the beep_task with its code replaced to an empty loop like this?

Code: [Select]
static void beep_task()
{
    while(1) msleep(100);
}
On my 700d, the task starts fine, but if u wanted to know if I could run it with bolt trigger too, well, then no, same crash.

Also, maybe this means something?
When I first started loading features. I was trying WAV RECORDING but when I tried enabling it with FEATURE_BEEP, I lost the modules menu, I could only load 1 of those at a time. If that means anything?

You want me to compile the beep_task test for 650D too.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on January 11, 2014, 12:18:27 PM
Don't try wav recording. I've disabled it because of a dangerous bug.

For bolt trigger, I need to modify the beep routine to make it non-blocking (until then, you should not call it from vsync hook). There are two ways: either replace that semaphore with a message queue, or simply drop all the requests done while some other beep is playing. Also, the LED blinking part should be moved in beep_task (because it's the delay that's crashing LiveView). To do this, you need a pretty solid background in multitasking programming though.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 11, 2014, 12:30:24 PM
Ok, on wav recording, at the beginning I thought it was undefed cause the audio stubs were not added yet, so I turned things on to check and when I saw module tab was no longer showing I made it undef again then left it that way because module tab was back.
 
UPDATE:
Turning off info_led in beep.c keeps it from crashing like you said, it beeps just fine, no crash during bolt trigger detections.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: walter_schulz on January 11, 2014, 12:43:17 PM
I don't speak "code" ...
Just drop a line/link if there is anything to test on 650D.

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ric on January 11, 2014, 06:48:12 PM
Can AF Microadjustment be added in?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 11, 2014, 11:55:10 PM
Anyone want to test to see if Full Time Audio Meters now work?
https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_ML_Audio_Jan_11_2014.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_ML_Audio_Jan_11_2014.zip)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on January 12, 2014, 12:32:05 AM
Anyone want to test to see if Full Time Audio Meters now work?
https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_ML_Audio_Jan_11_2014.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_ML_Audio_Jan_11_2014.zip)
Yes does work. Full time Jesus you are Great, Any chance to adjust levels while recording. Thank you :P
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 12, 2014, 12:48:21 AM
Yes does work. Full time Jesus you are Great, Any chance to adjust levels while recording. Thank you :P
No, unfortunatly now from me, I don't know how to program the Audio IC code, so for now this is all we can get. I only know very basic stuff.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on January 12, 2014, 12:54:28 AM
No, unfortunatly now from me, I don't know how to program the Audio IC code, so for now this is all we can get. I only know very basic stuff.
Meters are a lot, a huge step with my Rebel, Thank you ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: homba_gomba on January 12, 2014, 02:12:42 AM
Anyone want to test to see if Full Time Audio Meters now work?
https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_ML_Audio_Jan_11_2014.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_ML_Audio_Jan_11_2014.zip)

Hi there guys,

I just registered to report a Bug:

When I boot the Magic Lantern Build with the Full Time Audio Meters, the meters do show up but they flickering a lot and are showing way to high levels (compared to the native canon audio meters). To get rid of these flickering I need to go to the Canon audio settings and back and then the levels show up correctly.

Anyone else noticed this ?

I am using a Rode Videomic Pro on my 650D, dont know if it affects these issue.

Also, im not sure if I may missed anything, but I do not have an audio-tab on my ML-menu.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on January 12, 2014, 02:45:13 AM
Hi there guys,

I just registered to report a Bug:

When I boot the Magic Lantern Build with the Full Time Audio Meters, the meters do show up but they flickering a lot and are showing way to high levels (compared to the native canon audio meters). To get rid of these flickering I need to go to the Canon audio settings and back and then the levels show up correctly.

Anyone else noticed this ?

I am using a Rode Videomic Pro on my 650D, dont know if it affects these issue.

Also, im not sure if I may missed anything, but I do not have an audio-tab on my ML-menu.
No No flickering at all , If is flickering I guess you are not using a fast enough card, but just guessing.
Using external mic as well, but not either with internal mic.
HOWEVER ONE THING I noticed is that when you turn the camera on doesn't show red or peaking with red color when peaks, but when you go to Canon menu and return to ML interface does show the red of peaking when it happens. Yes levels show too high
YES Levels are more precise with the january 9 version not continous meters but when recording only
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: homba_gomba on January 12, 2014, 03:10:49 AM
No No flickering at all , levels are fine, Go by color Green good signal, Yellow around -12 - 6  db fine. Red, peaking, Use the limiter in the Canon menu.
If is flickering I guess you are not using a fast enough card, but just guessing.
Using external mic as well, but not either with internal mic

I think you got me wrong there. The colors of the meters are fine the levels just dont represent the real levels that are being recorded (too high and flickering). To get the ML-Levels to show the real db-values I have to open up the Canon-audiomenu and close it again. Then the levels are correct.

Just test if you got different db-values after opening and closing the canon audio menu.

tbh I dont think this has anything to do with a too slow sd-card.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on January 12, 2014, 03:13:32 AM
I think you got me wrong there. The colors of the meters are fine the levels just dont represent the real levels that are being recorded (to much db and flickering). To get the ML-Levels to show the real db-values I have to open up the Canon-audiomenu and close it again. Then the levels are correct.

Just test if you got diffrent db-values after opening and closing the canon audio menu.

tbh I dont think this has anything to do with a to slow sd-card.

Yes I edited my last reply. Again not flickering at all but levels change when you open the Canon Menu and Red peaking has a bug there also.
BACK to January 9 version
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 12, 2014, 03:26:23 AM
Well, not perfect fix yet anyway, it was only suppose to be a temp solution until we get the audio code written for our audio chip, but I guess it does no good if meters are not accurate, probably best to not use then?

Change will not be in nightly, I wanted to test first before I attempted putting it there.

And yes, sound menu wont show unless you load mlv_snd, because the only sound option you had that needed the sound menu was the beep, but the beep task is one to many tasks for your camera and that will kill your Module Menu, but if you load the mlv_snd module and reboot cam, you will see your sound menu with mlv_snd in it.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on January 12, 2014, 03:41:13 AM
Well, not perfect fix yet anyway, it was only suppose to be a temp solution until we get the audio code written for our audio chip, but I guess it does no good if meters are not accurate, probably best to not use then?

The meter is great and very accurate, and have no bugs in the previous version when was not continuous, that was in January 9 version . Just that this last one needs
to  do some corrections. Mean while I can not live without your meters, that now are my meters.
Again I don't see any flickering at all, I guess because my Panasonic Gold SDHC Card 90 read 45 write card. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 12, 2014, 04:18:24 AM
The meter is great and very accurate, and have no bugs in the previous version when was not continuous, that was in January 9 version . Just that this last one needs
to  do some corrections. Mean while I can not live without your meters, that now are my meters.
Again I don't see any flickering at all, I guess because my Panasonic Gold SDHC Card 90 read 45 write card. ;D ;D ;D
Oh, i dont mean I will take away meters during recording, they will be there like they were before full time meters, well, just use the nightly and meters will be there like they were before the test full time meters, this was just a test bin for you to test to see if we can make use of meters before recording.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 12, 2014, 05:17:21 AM
Strange, on the 700D the meters and tiny numbers are perfect with the canon ones, I ran a tone test from my pc using the int mic on cam and the numbers match also the colors are perfect.

So at least on the 700D it works fine.

I am not have any bugs to where I need to go into the canon menu to fix them.

Does it happen all the time? Maybe it is something I can tweak, just harder since I don't have a 650D.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 12, 2014, 05:55:22 AM
Can you try this bin?
https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_ML_Audio_Jan_11_2014_Test2.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_ML_Audio_Jan_11_2014_Test2.zip)

Here is how it works on my 700d
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on January 12, 2014, 06:34:56 AM
i know everyones focused on the module tab right now but i cant figure out how to do quick white balance change i know how to do the iso quck change but the wb is driving me crazy / also way off topic but were all filmmakers here  :P black and white video in post or in camera?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on January 12, 2014, 02:21:51 PM
Can you try this bin?
https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_ML_Audio_Jan_11_2014_Test2.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_ML_Audio_Jan_11_2014_Test2.zip)

The issue remains,  when I open the Canon Menu and go to the ML interface levels change . It doesn't happen with January 9 version. meters when recording only. :'(
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 12, 2014, 04:32:20 PM
The issue remains,  when I open the Canon Menu and go to the ML interface levels change . It doesn't happen with January 9 version. meters when recording only. :'(
Sux trying to do it without cam in my hands, this is the kind of thing you need to try over and over till you find the issue, probably going to be to hard to figure out this way, def takes way to long to get feedback for an issue like this, sorry.

Eventually when someone that figures out how to work the audio chip and code it, I am sure everything will work, but until then, I guess for the 650d at least, you will have to just use recording only meters or the canon meters of coarse.

So just keep using the nightly versions, that still only uses recording only meters.

Thanks for the feedback you have given so far though 8]
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: newsense on January 12, 2014, 08:23:55 PM
i know everyones focused on the module tab right now but i cant figure out how to do quick white balance change i know how to do the iso quck change but the wb is driving me crazy / also way off topic but were all filmmakers here  :P black and white video in post or in camera?

Im like 98 percent sure there is no WB shortcut but ive been wrong before. I prefer and I think most filmmakers prefer doing anything they can in camera vs doing it in post.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: venture on January 12, 2014, 11:59:40 PM
Hello, just installed magic lantern yesterday and it really is amazing. I'm starting to work through the various options and had a couple of questions:

1) I've enabled Quick Erase (SET+erase) and Set+MainDial (Expose Adjust) under the Image Review Settings on the Prefs page. However, neither is working for me. Both behave as if the Set button was never pressed. I've also enabled Image Review and Quick Zoom and they both ARE working. Has anyone else had a similar experience or am I doing something wrong? I'm using the Jan 11th nightly build.

2) After adjusting the White Balance in the ML menu, is there a way to set it back to Auto without going to the Canon menu?

Thanks..
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on January 13, 2014, 12:08:28 AM
1) enable the GUI events option in Debug menu and see if the camera reacts to the SET button in playback mode. Write down the button codes.

2) no.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: venture on January 13, 2014, 02:03:42 AM
1) enable the GUI events option in Debug menu and see if the camera reacts to the SET button in playback mode. Write down the button codes.

2) no.

Thanks, Alex.

When I press the SET button alone, I get:

EV15: p= 52 *o= 0/ 0/ 0 a= 0
EV16: p= 4 *o= 0/ 0/ 0 a=0
EV17: p= 5 *o= 0/ 0/ 0 a=0

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on January 13, 2014, 08:27:31 AM
So, button codes are OK. Next, somebody needs to check these stubs: PlayMain_handler and PlayMovieGuideApp_handler, and whether is_pure_play_photo_mode/is_pure_play_movie_mode are working fine.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 13, 2014, 05:12:38 PM
So, button codes are OK. Next, somebody needs to check these stubs: PlayMain_handler and PlayMovieGuideApp_handler, and whether is_pure_play_photo_mode/is_pure_play_movie_mode are working fine.
Stubs look fine. In the right place in the firmware.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 13, 2014, 06:05:05 PM
Sorry guys, the meters need to be killed till the camera can handle all the tasks correctly, Alex feels its just not stable enough yet and he has done this for many years so we need to trust him. So no more meters at all in the Nightly, but if you would like a version of it, I will be happy to post link for you guys for testing, I am running them on my 700D and all is good so far, but as Alex says, it does not mean it is stable yet. But we need to test it to be sure, we need to put them to work and see how the camera can deal with the extra tasks and the 650D and 700D are bother by a Task limit for some reason.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on January 13, 2014, 06:22:05 PM
Sorry guys, the meters need to be killed till the camera can handle all the tasks correctly, Alex feels its just not stable enough yet and he has done this for many years so we need to trust him. So no more meters at all in the Nightly, but if you would like a version of it, I will be happy to post link for you guys for testing, I am running them on my 700D and all is good so far, but as Alex says, it does not mean it is stable yet. But we need to test it to be sure, we need to put them to work and see how the camera can deal with the extra tasks and the 650D and 700D are bother by a Task limit for some reason.

I read some comments at 700d  Subject, about focus stacking and Is not real with the 650D, Continuous Focus or any other task , I checked is working fine.
However beware because of my workflow I don't load modules, or record in raw , instead I increase the bit rate to 1.8 .
So the camera with meters while recording Nightly January 13, works perfect on all function I tryed, again I don't do raw, because my workflow has to be faster.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: venture on January 13, 2014, 08:38:49 PM
Stubs look fine. In the right place in the firmware.

Thanks, guys. Is there anything more as a user that I can do to help out (to isolate the problem)?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: venture on January 14, 2014, 03:56:59 AM
Can someone tell me if Zebras are supposed to appear in Playback mode? I only see them when Liveview is enabled. GlobalDraw is set to ON.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on January 14, 2014, 04:42:34 AM
Can someone tell me if Zebras are supposed to appear in Playback mode? I only see them when Liveview is enabled. GlobalDraw is set to ON.
NO
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on January 14, 2014, 07:05:50 AM
The current implementation requires a button for it (something that is not used normally in playback mode, and generates events).

It's possible to refactor the code so it will work without requiring a button, just triggered after taking a picture. If anyone feels brave, I recommend defining something like MLEV_TRIGGER_ZEBRAS_FOR_PLAYBACK in gui-common.h and using that event code in trigger_zebras_for_qr. Then, modify handle_livev_playback so it triggers the overlay from both event codes.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: venture on January 18, 2014, 07:38:24 PM
Would it make sense to assign the Av+/- button to toggle Zebras? As far as I know, it doesn't have any other function in playback mode and does generate Press and Unpress codes.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on January 18, 2014, 07:45:49 PM
If the codes are different that 0x52 (GMT_GUICMD_PRESS_BUTTON_SOMETHING), which is sent by many buttons, I think it's fine.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: sedwards on January 23, 2014, 06:58:16 PM
hi , i am trying to get dual iso to work and cant find it in the menu. i loaded modules but its still not there . is it no longer in the nightly builds or do i ineed a seperate module ?
thanks
Stuart
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 23, 2014, 11:54:30 PM
hi , i am trying to get dual iso to work and cant find it in the menu. i loaded modules but its still not there . is it no longer in the nightly builds or do i ineed a seperate module ?
thanks
Stuart
Look on your card, look in ML folder then Modules folder, see if it's in there?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: sedwards on January 24, 2014, 04:59:16 AM
not sure which nightly i had but it wasnt in there . just downloaded the latest one and all is good. thanks  :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: anewcomb on January 24, 2014, 09:11:25 AM
Hi there, I recently registered as a member but have been following the forums for sometime now. I am currently using the 650d/t4i with ML installed. I am absolutely blown away by the progress being made on the current build that I have on my 650d but I am curious to know how devs feel about the fate of the 650d? I'm really loving the idea of the RAW video feature but the Red/green dots are still hanging around...and of course I use the PDR tool but it's not really near 100%. So I guess I just wanted to get an honest opinion from some of you in regards to the "fate" of the 650d from a devs perspective. And by the way, I appreciate everyones hard work and commintment! No complaints here...just curiosity :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on January 24, 2014, 03:04:33 PM
What do you mean? Development on the 650D is going on and AFAIK everything just works. The AF dots are probably here to stay unless we figure out another raw feed to piggyback .
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: anewcomb on January 24, 2014, 07:35:51 PM
It's  the AF dot problem that motivated me to ask. I'm under the impression that it is a very complex fix. I'm running a newer 2014 build on my 650d and the PDR tool does not seem to be working anymore on a resolution of 1472x626. So I'm just curious about the AF dot progress and people's feelings on it. I'm just wondering whether I should invest in a 50D. My decision will be based on whether I get a feeling of doubt about a fix for the 650d in responses to my question...that's where I'm at... unless somebody knows of a build version that works perfectly with the latest PDR Tool that I could get? One that works at 1472x626 with PDR?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on January 25, 2014, 11:20:47 PM
PDR is broken for all intensive purposes. A1ex's modded raw2dng.exe for the 650D works alright for most cases - that thread is http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6658), the same as the PDR thread. Look around the sixth page or so.

However, if you want to use dual iso, you're SOL. Neither of these methods can remove the dots while keeping the dual iso lines, which is disappointing as I've got a whole set of fire juggling clips to mess with, but no way to use them.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on January 26, 2014, 07:41:15 AM
Neither of these methods can remove the dots while keeping the dual iso lines, which is disappointing as I've got a whole set of fire juggling clips to mess with, but no way to use them.

Don't remember if I asked you for samples back then (and looking back in history didn't help either); can you upload a few DNG files converted with plain unmodified raw2dng?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: anewcomb on January 26, 2014, 11:23:25 AM
Hi a1ex, I am a 650 owner and would like to help in any way that I can. Like I said a few posts back, I'm running a nighty build from 01-20-2014 and the .08 PDR tool removes 99% of the dots with 1280x720 but it fails badly at removing any dots at 1472x626. I don't write code but I can provide dng's for testing/calculating AF dot positions. Someone in those PDR threads spoke of an "earlier" build that worked perfectly with the latest .08 PDR tool at both 1280 "and" 1472. Sure wish I knew what build that was... I know it was earlier than what's provided in the nightly build download section...I believe it was a September 2013 build to be precise. Let me know if you need some samples. Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on January 26, 2014, 01:12:46 PM
Use resolutions multiples of 16 for PDR to work. E.g. 1536 x 640 works fine.
By the way, if you are interested in fine color detail, PDR is the only way to go for now.
Check the PDR thread for more info about that.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on January 26, 2014, 01:22:38 PM
Next nightly will contain fixes to ML features in play mode
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: LordPanzer on January 26, 2014, 10:46:07 PM
I'm eagerly awaiting the audio trigger, and all this talk about audio meters has gotten my hopes up that the trigger function will follow naturally. I know better than to ask for an ETA, but is this something that's on the immediate roadmap at least?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 26, 2014, 11:11:28 PM
I'm eagerly awaiting the audio trigger, and all this talk about audio meters has gotten my hopes up that the trigger function will follow naturally. I know better than to ask for an ETA, but is this something that's on the immediate roadmap at least?
It does work on the test version with audio meters, but wont be in the nightly builds because audio meters push the camera tasks to its limits so it is considered unstable, but working great on 700D and should work fine on yours too with beep task disabled, but not sure since I dont have 650D, on 700D disabling beep task is just enough to keep the camera stable in photo and movie mode and audio trigger works fine in both when meters are enabled. I can only share the version with you but it wont be allowed in nightly till someone with better skills can figure out the task issues.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on January 26, 2014, 11:57:45 PM
I've been using the Same build you put on here when you first brought up the audio meters they're completely stable for me and the whole metering only while recording Is not a problem at all because you can just level in the canon menu and then meter while recording and adjust on your field recorder if needed
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mepizani on January 27, 2014, 02:01:06 AM
Hi

I am new around here. I have read a lot of the benefits that ML brings to its users, until I found that there was a version that could be used in the Rebel T4i, so I decided to give it a shot and find out how it works on mi camera. The result is that I busted my SD card 

I did everything you recommended to do:
•   I up dated the firmware to 1.0.4
•   I did a low level format to the SD card

Then I dounloaded the EOScard from the website: http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/EOScard but didn’t work, I started to look for another software that make the SD card bootable, so I googled it an found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CovIqmKODzg

After viewing that video I downloaded the WIN32 DiskImager and I also had to download the 2014-01-07-wheezy-raspbian that was needed to make the SD card bootable.

I used my SanDisk Ultra 64GB (SDXC I) to make it bootable and to upload the ML the result was the following:

I could upload the ML (magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug03.650D104), it even run perfectly. But the SDcard memory got shorten; it now says that its capacity  is about 56MB; I formatted it, I lost what I did when uploading ML; and the SDcard it is now 56MB of memory free (I can take up to 6 pictures).

I got worried about the camera, and checked it, and everything seems to work perfectly, but the SD card is busted.

MY question:

-   What did I do wrong?
-   Was it wrong to use de WIN32 DisImager?
-   Have I just lost my SDcard forever? Or can I fix it and make it 64GB again?
-   If it’s definitely broken, what SD card can you recommend?
-   If I did any step wrong, could you teach me how make it right?

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on January 27, 2014, 02:21:57 AM
Hi

I am new around here. I have read a lot of the benefits that ML brings to its users, until I found that there was a version that could be used in the Rebel T4i, so I decided to give it a shot and find out how it works on mi camera. The result is that I busted my SD card 

I did everything you recommended to do:
•   I up dated the firmware to 1.0.4
•   I did a low level format to the SD card

Then I dounloaded the EOScard from the website: http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/EOScard but didn’t work, I started to look for another software that make the SD card bootable, so I googled it an found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CovIqmKODzg

After viewing that video I downloaded the WIN32 DiskImager and I also had to download the 2014-01-07-wheezy-raspbian that was needed to make the SD card bootable.

I used my SanDisk Ultra 64GB (SDXC I) to make it bootable and to upload the ML the result was the following:

I could upload the ML (magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug03.650D104), it even run perfectly. But the SDcard memory got shorten; it now says that its capacity  is about 56MB; I formatted it, I lost what I did when uploading ML; and the SDcard it is now 56MB of memory free (I can take up to 6 pictures).

I got worried about the camera, and checked it, and everything seems to work perfectly, but the SD card is busted.

MY question:

-   What did I do wrong?
-   Was it wrong to use de WIN32 DisImager?
-   Have I just lost my SDcard forever? Or can I fix it and make it 64GB again?
-   If it’s definitely broken, what SD card can you recommend?
-   If I did any step wrong, could you teach me how make it right?

Hi,

First right click my computer on the desktop and click "Manage". Now the Computer Management window should be appeared. You'll see some options at the right panel. Under the storage option, go to Disk Management. There you will see your SD card. Please describe what you see there, what does it say about your card?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 27, 2014, 02:26:07 AM
The result is that I busted my SD card

It's not that easy to bust a SD card.
Insert card into cardreader, use Window 7/8 Disk Management to delete all partitions on that SD. Insert SD card into cam and format there.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: LordPanzer on January 27, 2014, 05:28:13 AM
It does work on the test version with audio meters, but wont be in the nightly builds because audio meters push the camera tasks to its limits so it is considered unstable, but working great on 700D and should work fine on yours too with beep task disabled, but not sure since I dont have 650D, on 700D disabling beep task is just enough to keep the camera stable in photo and movie mode and audio trigger works fine in both when meters are enabled. I can only share the version with you but it wont be allowed in nightly till someone with better skills can figure out the task issues.
Nice! Which build should I use? I tried the one you posted on jan 11 and the jan 8 nightly, but there's no mention of audio trigger in the Shoot tab, nor in the audio tab that shows up when I load the mlv modules.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on January 27, 2014, 07:48:00 AM
Hi

I am new around here. I have read a lot of the benefits that ML brings to its users, until I found that there was a version that could be used in the Rebel T4i, so I decided to give it a shot and find out how it works on mi camera. The result is that I busted my SD card 

I did everything you recommended to do:
•   I up dated the firmware to 1.0.4
•   I did a low level format to the SD card

Then I dounloaded the EOScard from the website: http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/EOScard but didn’t work, I started to look for another software that make the SD card bootable, so I googled it an found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CovIqmKODzg

After viewing that video I downloaded the WIN32 DiskImager and I also had to download the 2014-01-07-wheezy-raspbian that was needed to make the SD card bootable.

I used my SanDisk Ultra 64GB (SDXC I) to make it bootable and to upload the ML the result was the following:

I could upload the ML (magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug03.650D104), it even run perfectly. But the SDcard memory got shorten; it now says that its capacity  is about 56MB; I formatted it, I lost what I did when uploading ML; and the SDcard it is now 56MB of memory free (I can take up to 6 pictures).

I got worried about the camera, and checked it, and everything seems to work perfectly, but the SD card is busted.

MY question:

-   What did I do wrong?
-   Was it wrong to use de WIN32 DisImager?
-   Have I just lost my SDcard forever? Or can I fix it and make it 64GB again?
-   If it’s definitely broken, what SD card can you recommend?
-   If I did any step wrong, could you teach me how make it right?
well first off ml tells everyone not to do a first time load with anything bigger than 32 thats why eoscard didn't work properly
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on January 27, 2014, 02:41:56 PM
It does work on the test version with audio meters, but wont be in the nightly builds because audio meters push the camera tasks to its limits so it is considered unstable, but working great on 700D and should work fine on yours too with beep task disabled, but not sure since I dont have 650D, on 700D disabling beep task is just enough to keep the camera stable in photo and movie mode and audio trigger works fine in both when meters are enabled. I can only share the version with you but it wont be allowed in nightly till someone with better skills can figure out the task issues.
Meters working great very stable , I've done 2 events with the camera , bit rate 1.6 , zebras, cropmarks. Perfect
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 27, 2014, 02:56:40 PM
I'm eagerly awaiting the audio trigger, and all this talk about audio meters has gotten my hopes up that the trigger function will follow naturally. I know better than to ask for an ETA, but is this something that's on the immediate roadmap at least?
I turned on Audio Remote shoot for you with meters full time, works fine on 700D, hope it works for the 650D as well, here is the link. Also updated to latest ML source.
https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_ML_Audio_Jan_27_2014.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_ML_Audio_Jan_27_2014.zip)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on January 27, 2014, 04:14:04 PM
I turned on Audio Remote shoot for you with meters full time, works fine on 700D, hope it works for the 650D as well, here is the link. Also updated to latest ML source.
https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_ML_Audio_Jan_27_2014.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_ML_Audio_Jan_27_2014.zip)
January 13 build has the right levels but meters only while recording this january 27 fulltime meters audio not stable, audio levels high, Is there any way you can borrow a 650 somewhere?
Thank you by the meters while recording.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 27, 2014, 04:55:49 PM
January 13 build has the right levels but meters only while recording this january 27 fulltime meters audio not stable, audio levels high, Is there any way you can borrow a 650 somewhere?
Thank you by the meters while recording.
Yeah, still same issue as last time with meters full time on your camera, they were said to read high for some reason, to bad, cause the only way you can use Audio Remote Shoot is if meters are going fulltime, fine on 700D, but def does not seem fine on 650D, sorry 8[, was worth a shot though. And no, I can't borrow a 650D to test with, sorry.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on January 27, 2014, 05:59:32 PM
Yeah, still same issue as last time with meters full time on your camera, they were said to read high for some reason, to bad, cause the only way you can use Audio Remote Shoot is if meters are going fulltime, fine on 700D, but def does not seem fine on 650D, sorry 8[, was worth a shot though. And no, I can't borrow a 650D to test with, sorry.
700D firmware 1.1.3 that is the one I'm using since december
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 27, 2014, 06:10:58 PM
700D firmware 1.1.3 that is the one I'm using since december
Do you have a 650d and 700d? Probably wont be a 1.1.3 ML version for your 700d for some time, I was going to try to do it, but to scared I will get stuck with firmware 1.1.3 and no more ML if I couldnt port it.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on January 27, 2014, 06:23:15 PM
You can port ML to the new firmware almost blindly. Then ask for users that have the newer version from the factory to help with figuring our the remaining stubs. I did the same and was worth it
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: LordPanzer on January 27, 2014, 07:15:28 PM
I turned on Audio Remote shoot for you with meters full time, works fine on 700D, hope it works for the 650D as well, here is the link. Also updated to latest ML source.
https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_ML_Audio_Jan_27_2014.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_ML_Audio_Jan_27_2014.zip)
Wonderful! Thank you!

It was a bit fiddly. I eventually figured out I have to load the mlv modules and enable audio meters first, but I got it working and man am I going to have fun with this and my air rifle! For now I dedicate this frozen water balloon, dirty sink, rusty hammer, and on-camera flash to you:

http://imgur.com/XMjNNnd


[edit] I don't actually have to enable MLV Sound in the audio tab, but after switching on the camera I do have to display the audio tab once, otherwise the trigger meter thing just reads 0/10 no matter what I do.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 27, 2014, 07:39:18 PM
Wonderful! Thank you!

It was a bit fiddly. I eventually figured out I have to load the mlv modules and enable audio meters first, but I got it working and man am I going to have fun with this and my air rifle! For now I dedicate this frozen water balloon, dirty sink, rusty hammer, and on-camera flash to you:

http://imgur.com/XMjNNnd


[edit] I don't actually have to enable MLV Sound in the audio tab, but after switching on the camera I do have to display the audio tab once, otherwise the trigger meter thing just reads 0/10 no matter what I do.
Ha! Nice Water balloon shot!

I hope it works out for you ok, wish I could get it to work for you as it does on the 700D, but it would be to much debugging to do without cam in hand.

Interesting that you found the remote shoot levels only work after going to Audio Tab menu first. Better then nothing I guess if you need the remote shoot feature 8]

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: LordPanzer on January 27, 2014, 07:50:54 PM
Hey it's free and it works. I'm used to wrestling with custom Android ROMs so this is all I ask. :)

I played with the motion detect a while back, but it reacted too slowly and I got pictures of pieces on the ground. Silent Shot was faster, but... pink dots. I tried the Audio Remote on my dad's 550D and have been wanting it ever since. I was this close to building an audio trigger out of the Arduino I got for xmas.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on January 27, 2014, 09:36:04 PM
Ok I don't really understand how any of this works but if mk11174 can bring in audio meters from the 700d to the t4i cant we just bring them from the t3i build and have a much more stable build? Again I could be completely wrong and it could be impossible I really have no idea it's just a thought
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on January 27, 2014, 09:56:55 PM
Ok I don't really understand how any of this works but if mk11174 can bring in audio meters from the 700d to the t4i cant we just bring them from the t3i build and have a much more stable build? Again I could be completely wrong and it could be impossible I really have no idea it's just a thought

700D is more identical to 650D than 550D.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on January 28, 2014, 05:34:51 AM
Do you have a 650d and 700d?
650-700-SL1 All same family, but only 650 has ML, SL1, and 700 have not , and makes them simple cameras, Hope you guys will be able to brake that code.
Personally don't know code or programming.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: venture on January 29, 2014, 06:41:45 AM
Next nightly will contain fixes to ML features in play mode

Thanks, nanomad.

Set+MainDial and Set+Erase functions both work now.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on January 29, 2014, 10:36:36 AM
Anyway I can get the latest nightlys but keep the original audio meters from mk11174?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 29, 2014, 12:40:07 PM
Anyway I can get the latest nightlys but keep the original audio meters from mk11174?
My version I posted the other day is up to date with nightly from that day, but I think your play mode patches were posted right after, so I will post another update so its up to date with nightly, the play mode fix is the only thing new since my last post.

No way the meters will be added to nightly till Alex okays them on that camera and the 700d.

If you go to my download site https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads)  I will do my best to keep up to date builds that are up to date with nightly, especially when there is a change for your camera. I added 2 version, Fulltime Meters which may be flakey with higher levels on the meters from what I have read here, but allows for Audio Remote Shoot, and the other meter version will be meters, but only during record, but this version the meters are showing normal levels, just no audio remote shoot because audio has to be active for Audio Remote Shot to work.

This may all be fixable once someone with the 650d can debug the changes and see why this meter level gets messed up with the fulltime meter version, I only have a 700d which does not have the wrong meter level problem, so maybe it is a simple tweak.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 29, 2014, 03:00:05 PM
If anyone wants to help debug the audio fulltime issue with high levels, you can download this https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_DEBUG.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_DEBUG.zip)

UPDATE: Glassescreditsroll already checked these debugs out so no need to recheck, thank you anyway!

Inside are 4 debug versions, I would need you to test the meters to see if they work all the time of coarse, not just during recording, and you will need to make sure the levels look normal and also, important! You need to record a regular MOV then play it back on cam, check to see if the audio plays back like chimpmunks, video will be fine, just audio may be strange. Also, I would need you to find out if meters still work after a playback of the MOV.

Since I don't have cam, this is the best I can do to try to narrow the quick fix down on my end.

It is same procedure I went through finding best way for 700d to give perfect results. You cam is slightly different obviously.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on January 29, 2014, 07:50:31 PM
If anyone wants to help debug the audio fulltime issue with high levels, you can download this https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_DEBUG.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_DEBUG.zip)

Inside are 4 debug versions, I would need you to test the meters to see if they work all the time of coarse, not just during recording, and you will need to make sure the levels look normal and also, important! You need to record a regular MOV then play it back on cam, check to see if the audio plays back like chimpmunks, video will be fine, just audio may be strange. Also, I would need you to find out if meters still work after a playback of the MOV.

Since I don't have cam, this is the best I can do to try to narrow the quick fix down on my end.

It is same procedure I went through finding best way for 700d to give perfect results. You cam is slightly different obviously.
ok the first two gave me no audio at all and all of the builds gave me only left meter on the in camera meters but the ml meters were all true on all builds except the first two. I did the chipmunk test and as I said the first two builds gave no audio, but the rest gave me chipmunk audio as well as a forced stop on all recordings. I did all tests with all modules on and off so idk if that helps any.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 29, 2014, 08:16:19 PM
ok the first two gave me no audio at all and all of the builds gave me only left meter on the in camera meters but the ml meters were all true on all builds except the first two. I did the chipmunk test and as I said the first two builds gave no audio, but the rest gave me chipmunk audio as well as a forced stop on all recordings. I did all tests with all modules on and off so idk if that helps any.
Thank you for the tests, it does help to show the 650d does work just like the 700d for the chimpmunk audio at least, so I know one thing that needs to stay for sure. So now you say the last 2 the meters held true on ML but Canon only showed left meter? I will make a couple more builds and we can go from there.

By the way, when you say forced stop, do you mean, you stopped it, or do you mean the forced stop that MLV_REC gives, if you mean, MLV, please do all tests with Canon regular MOV record, no MLV recording for now, as far as loading modules, dont matter if you load any, just no need to use any for testing, because we are just trying to get the meters working regular with the camera, not with any modules at this time, but they should work fine with MLV once they work correctly with just canon MOV movies. So prob best to not load any modules during debugging this, lets keep it nice and simple and go from there.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 29, 2014, 08:33:38 PM
Ok, give this a try and see how the meters react, should be no chimpmunk issue with this version, just meter issues.
https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_DEBUG5.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_DEBUG5.zip)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on January 29, 2014, 08:35:32 PM
Yeah the in camera canon meters only the left meter is correct the right is always on high peak and sent move at all, the force stop was not done by me the screen showed this little white rectangle on the right side of the screen and then the camera said the recording had been stopped I was not using mlv rec it was just regular video
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on January 29, 2014, 08:51:41 PM
Ok meters work perfect While/while not recording no more chipmunk audio. Meters still work after playback but once i turn my camera off and on meters go crazy until I check canon meters then they go back to true.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 29, 2014, 09:06:25 PM
Ok meters work perfect While/while not recording no more chipmunk audio. Meters still work after playback but once i turn my camera off and on meters go crazy until I check canon meters then they go back to true.
hmm, ok, interesting, let me see if I can get another version to try.

Is there a differ in this version compared to debug5?
https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_Fulltime_Meters_Jan_29_2014.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_Fulltime_Meters_Jan_29_2014.zip)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on January 29, 2014, 09:32:21 PM
Yeah it's the same problem also I don't know if anyones said this but this and the last test both meters are not only too high but when you go from external to internal/ internal to external the meters only show what you last used I dont know if that makes sence but let's say I'm using a zoom h1 plugged in the meters show about 20-24 then I unplug and am now using the on camera audio but my gain is set way low I shouldn't still be seeing 20-24 but I am.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 29, 2014, 09:53:49 PM
Ok, not sure why the meters show high yet.

What about this version? https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_DEBUG6.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_DEBUG6.zip)

So hard to know for sure when I can't replicate it on my 700d, wish I could so I could see what makes it do what it does for your 650d, but you would think, it works in record mode just fine, so it should work in none record mode as well. Seems like we are almost there though.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on January 29, 2014, 10:08:06 PM
Ok same problem i don't know if this worked before but now if I record before checking canon meters the meters go back to true while and after recording but on start up the meters are still high
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 30, 2014, 12:21:08 AM
Ok same problem i don't know if this worked before but now if I record before checking canon meters the meters go back to true while and after recording but on start up the meters are still high
so does this debug6 work same as the Jan29 fulltime meters? That is really the one to compare to as far as fulltime meters work? Is it all working normal in debug6 besides the issue when restarting? Is it exact same as fulltime meters jan29?

Im going to PM you since you seem to be the key tester, I dont want to fill up the thread with tests and make moderators angry.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 30, 2014, 03:57:18 PM
Ok, after trial and error debugging with Glassescreditsroll, I came up with a good temp solution for fulltime meters that works exactly the same on the 650d and 700d https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_Meters_Jan_30_2014.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_Meters_Jan_30_2014.zip)

It enables Photomode remote shoot without going into Audio Menu and meters work fulltime in Movie Mode.

If you notice the meters are not the same levels when you first start cam compared to how they are when you record a movie, don't worry, it means you are using Manual Gain Control in Canon Audio Menu. This temp solution just gets meters going and it does it in Auto Gain Control mode, so this is why your levels will look differ at first, but good news is, you can either set Canon Gain control to Auto and levels will be same no matter what, whether you record or don't record, or restart cam.

Or if you are one to use Manual Control of Canon Gain, than just simply record a 1 second clip and when you stop that recording, that will kick the levels into Manual mode to match Canons setting, or simply just goto the Canon levels menu 1 time and that will also do it.

But once you restart camera, you will have to go back to Canons Audio menu or just record a 1sec clip again.

But if you Have Canon Gain Control set to Auto, then you wont have to do any steps at all, they will just work fine.

So nothing is wrong with the levels if they are differ at first start compared to when you record, it is just ML does not know how to control the gain yet, so I have it simply turn meters on in Auto Gain mode. I can set it to Manual, but it would be useless, since the Audio Chip is not programmed yet, so the changes you make in Canon Menu wont reflect the ML levels, I can only hardcode a value in ML code and it will not be same as Canon level, so it is just pointless till the Audio chip is fully coded and configured to work with ML.

For now, I just basically turned the meters on and they reset when they need to so they will work correctly.

This new way does not mess with wind filter so there wont be any issues with the filters being buggy.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on January 30, 2014, 04:14:29 PM
Fantastic almost, almost there
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on January 30, 2014, 06:32:41 PM
If you submit a patch that enables meter only with AGC on I'll happily merge it to get the ball rolling
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on January 30, 2014, 08:57:57 PM
Can you show meters while recording on manual and show meters full time with automatic, because meters full time on manual in a stressful situation
can lead to mistakes.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 30, 2014, 09:46:11 PM
Can you show meters while recording on manual and show meters full time with automatic, because meters full time on manual in a stressful situation
can lead to mistakes.
Meters are fine to show in both cases, and other testers have said they are stable on both 650d and 700d  :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on January 30, 2014, 10:05:55 PM
Meters are fine to show in both cases, and other testers have said they are stable on both 650d and 700d  :)
No, on Manual before to hit record shows different levels that when you hit record, as you explained, shows automatic levels on manual, because ML is not capable yet to control manual gain
Unless we go Canon menu or record a 1 second video and then engages the right levels or Canon menu levels.
That is why will be nice if on manual shows meters only while recording just to remember going to Canon menu to verify.
On automatic is perfect congratulations and thank you.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 30, 2014, 11:17:52 PM
No, on Manual before to hit record shows different levels that when you hit record, as you explained, shows automatic levels on manual, because ML is not capable yet to control manual gain
Unless we go Canon menu or record a 1 second video and then engages the right levels or Canon menu levels.
That is why will be nice if on manual shows meters only while recording just to remember going to Canon menu to verify.
On automatic is perfect congratulations and thank you.
Ah, I see what you mean, but no, since I dont have any way myself of telling ML what state the Audiochip is in, I can't tell the meters to go on only while it is set to Auto and only go on in Record while in Manual. As far as I know anyway. I can only force the chip to do something, I don't know how to get the data from Canon state and let ML know that data to use it, why we need a programmer to do that crazy cool hard stuff.

For now, its easy enough just to press record once, or since most of the time, if your in manual anyway, your most likely going to double check your meters before you do a movie, so once you go check them in Canon Menu, it will set meters correct. I know you want them off to remind you to check, but I always by habit go check anyway just to be on safe side, but I know not everyone would do that.

It is the best we can get for now though.

I can turn meters off though and have them only go on while recording, but they would have to be turned off to where they wont ever come on unless you are recording, they will never be on when not recording except in Canon Menu, pretty much how they were. I like seeing them before I record though, but that is me.

Really we have to just wait till chip is coded to get full use of it, but for now, this is all we can get from it, sorry.

It was cool to use SetDevVolumeIn to manually control the AGC and Input with ML, but those settings only hold true till you press record because then Canons settings take effect, and that is exactly why we just have to wait to get proper control.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on January 30, 2014, 11:51:50 PM
Yes in fact is matter of getting used to going to Canon menu when in manual. Is great to be able to check levels, Thank you.
The sound shutter is very interesting and works perfect. 8) ;D
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 31, 2014, 12:34:27 AM
Yes in fact is matter of getting used to going to Canon menu when in manual. Is great to be able to check levels, Thank you.
The sound shutter is very interesting and works perfect. 8) ;D
One day hopefully we will have full use of the audio chip from ML, one day, LOL!!  :)

And yeah, nice to have Audio Remote Shot, makes us feel like we have some kind of audio control at least, lol!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on January 31, 2014, 03:08:47 AM
What I did was set my menu button to open up the my menu tab where I have the audio settings saved there so I just quickly press the menu button click sound recording and press half shutter and the meters are showing true it takes me like half second to do now and it's second nature in no time.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on January 31, 2014, 03:25:56 AM
What I did was set my menu button to open up the my menu tab where I have the audio settings saved there so I just quickly press the menu button click sound recording and press half shutter and the meters are showing true it takes me like half second to do now and it's second nature in no time.
Nice!!!! I think I will copy that,  ;)

I just wish I was smart enough to for now code in a fake rec command to where it does record state but doesnt record, just preps the cam for it at load time, this would get meters going right off the bat, or maybe code in auto to open and close canon sound menu quickly. No idea if possible, but I don't know enough to know what the commands would be. Yeah, it may be a waste because eventually the chip will be setup to work with ML, but for now, it is always fun to find quick fixes to get us by.  :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: ric on February 01, 2014, 09:20:48 AM
The time indicator not showing while recording

Great to hav audio level showing now.. :D
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: fotap on February 01, 2014, 11:47:48 PM
Thank you very much best developers use the best camera 650d with magic lantern, very satisfied.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: cinecine on February 03, 2014, 01:02:08 AM
You are really cool. Very good. But I have a question, sorry for the bad english, rsrrsrsrrs .... I installed magic lantern. More audio controllers not appears. I installed the version of the beginning of this topic, I recommend is installing updates "nightly builds", or something to correct this?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on February 03, 2014, 08:12:17 AM
You are really cool. Very good. But I have a question, sorry for the bad english, rsrrsrsrrs .... I installed magic lantern. More audio controllers not appears. I installed the version of the beginning of this topic, I recommend is installing updates "nightly builds", or something to correct this?
If you would like the audio meter version then you would need this build for now. https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_Meters_Jan_30_2014.zip (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads/ML_650D_Meters_Jan_30_2014.zip)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: venture on February 03, 2014, 06:57:36 PM
The current implementation requires a button for it (something that is not used normally in playback mode, and generates events).

It's possible to refactor the code so it will work without requiring a button, just triggered after taking a picture. If anyone feels brave, I recommend defining something like MLEV_TRIGGER_ZEBRAS_FOR_PLAYBACK in gui-common.h and using that event code in trigger_zebras_for_qr. Then, modify handle_livev_playback so it triggers the overlay from both event codes.

Something else I observed: After starting ML with default settings, only two options ever appear under Global Draw: "OFF" and "LiveView". If I select either option, I lose the overlays outside of LiveView / Video and there is no way to turn them back on without restoring ML defaults. Would this be related?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davegravy on February 03, 2014, 07:06:01 PM
Hi all,

Getting started with Magic Lantern on my 650d, and loving it!

I'm using the magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug03.650D104.zip version from the OP so far for RAW video with good results but wondering about the latest nightlies. Is there a summary of what's changed/improved somewhere?

Right now the PDR tool works well for me, but I understand it's broken for the latest nightlies... I assume in exchange for some other advantages? Which ML version is generally recommended for someone who's primarily concerned with RAW video quality and features relating to RAW video (e.g. I have no need for audio or stills)?

Thanks!

Dave

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: anewcomb on February 04, 2014, 09:42:15 AM
Hi Dave, I asked the same question a while back and received no real solid answer. So I went ahead and downloaded the latest build and 1280x720 is 99% red dot free with PDR tool 7 or 8. 1472x626 however is loaded with dots. There is a cool tool a1ex made called " raw2dng-cs2x2...hdlike_noise.exe" which cleans up the 1472x626 pretty much. Just Google that tool name and you should find the threads with download links. Also, I have found that adobe camera raw (ACR) used with most adobe software like After Effects helps with properly displaying the tool converted DNG files. I'm not sure why but that's what I'm having to use after PDR is applied. Yes...it is a mind bender and a bummer at times but just imagine what the devs go through...upmost respect for those guys!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davegravy on February 04, 2014, 04:30:52 PM
Hi Dave, I asked the same question a while back and received no real solid answer. So I went ahead and downloaded the latest build and 1280x720 is 99% red dot free with PDR tool 7 or 8. 1472x626 however is loaded with dots. There is a cool tool a1ex made called " raw2dng-cs2x2...hdlike_noise.exe" which cleans up the 1472x626 pretty much. Just Google that tool name and you should find the threads with download links. Also, I have found that adobe camera raw (ACR) used with most adobe software like After Effects helps with properly displaying the tool converted DNG files. I'm not sure why but that's what I'm having to use after PDR is applied. Yes...it is a mind bender and a bummer at times but just imagine what the devs go through...upmost respect for those guys!

Thanks anewcomb!

I've been making my way through the forum threads and changelog, though not finished yet. Lots of it is technical beyond my understanding, but I gather they've squeezed a bit more performance out of the write speeds in the latest builds, and hence increased the maximum resolution you can record without dropouts. That's reason enough for me to update ML!

I'll give the raw2dng tool a shot. I'm partial to Resolve, so hopefully I can still fit that in my workflow. If it breaks things for me I suppose I can always go back to the August build :)

Cheers,

Dave

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: timkev on February 05, 2014, 01:02:06 PM
I'm having trouble understanding whether or not it is possible to record audio while recording RAW videos.
If it is, could someone please let me know the step by step process how to do so. I'm quite new to Magic Lantern.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on February 05, 2014, 06:59:18 PM
Hey I don't know if it's possible at all but I just picked up an anamorphic lens and I'm wondering if we can somehow change aspect ratio without filming raw? I just don't want to have to add pdr to my post work right now and being able to change filming ratio would make squeezing in post alot easier
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on February 06, 2014, 05:26:36 AM
I've read around and I see that in 2012 the 5d got a display tweak for live view anamorphic squeez, that would be a tremendous help! Why hasn't anyone brought that over to any apsc cameras? Or have they? Unless its impossible it makes no sence to not do it seeing as how crop sensors are much better to film on when it comes to anamorphic because of the shorter focal lengths we can get that the ff can't because of vignetting. Please someone tell me this can happen? Or tell me it's not possible on the 650d and I'll shut up I don't want to troll I'm just curious as to why we don't have this feature if it's just a live view tweak
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: diy-greenenergy on February 06, 2014, 07:06:30 AM
Hi I am using ML on my 650D from the first alpha release. ML is awesome, thanks guys!
Here my first try at focus stacking:
Final image: http://www.apcc.tk/images/news_pictures/Focus-Stack-Final-Image-Helicon-Focus.jpg
The camera was set to F2.8, ISO100, Jpg, next time I want to use F5.6-F8 and Raw format, I hope I will got better results.

rec
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Jokemeister on February 07, 2014, 09:28:14 AM
I must be misunderstanding focus stacking. I thought it took several shots at progressive focus distances to allow you to stack them in Photoshop etc. to have for example a macro image where the whole object was in focus because normally your depth of field is so short. The sample image didn't seem to demonstrate that.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nyte on February 07, 2014, 12:01:00 PM
Being new to DSLR video and all I'm wondering what is Focus stacking and why would I use it ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 07, 2014, 01:13:09 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focus_stacking

You may use video to collect frames with different focus distance by pushing/pulling focus. Those frames can be extracted and stacked.

However, standard for focus stacking is taking stills.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: diy-greenenergy on February 08, 2014, 07:46:32 PM
I must be misunderstanding focus stacking. I thought it took several shots at progressive focus distances to allow you to stack them in Photoshop etc. to have for example a macro image where the whole object was in focus because normally your depth of field is so short. The sample image didn't seem to demonstrate that.
At F2.8 my 100mm lens has only 0.01 cm DOF.
http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html

Here you can see all the individual images: focus stacking (http://www.apcc.tk/photo-gallery/category/66-first-try-focus-stacking)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: diy-greenenergy on February 08, 2014, 07:49:14 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focus_stacking

You may use video to collect frames with different focus distance by pushing/pulling focus. Those frames can be extracted and stacked.

However, standard for focus stacking is taking stills.
Yes you have right for 2Mpixel, but if you need 18Mpixel image, extracting frames from video is not a solution.
Title: Re: Canon 650D 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on February 08, 2014, 08:35:42 PM
Hey guys,
just for info, the link to daily builds for 650D was changed, so you find it from now here (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/demgitqk7a6ixsv/b_Eh0sVSGi) or just take a look to my signature.
BTW: There are no changes in source, so no updates. I think the devs doing a little pause  :P

Satriani, how do they differ from the alpha builds on the ML site?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: satriani on February 08, 2014, 09:32:16 PM
In most cases, no difference. I experiment sometimes with modules, so my builds can be unstable as of alpha builds on the ML site.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: perkaer on February 09, 2014, 08:07:43 PM
Something else I observed: After starting ML with default settings, only two options ever appear under Global Draw: "OFF" and "LiveView". If I select either option, I lose the overlays outside of LiveView / Video and there is no way to turn them back on without restoring ML defaults. Would this be related?

I am having the same issue and I am using the most recent nightly build.

As far as I understand this means that you cannot which a raw histogram after the picture is taken, only before using LV... Looking under the "overlay" section on http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/features (http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/features), OVERLAYS_IN_PLAYBACK_MODE is unchecked for 650D and 700D, so this quite essential feature is missing?

Until recently I was using Canon firmware 1.0.1 and a ML version from last summer and here I could easily view the raw histogram in playback mode (press and hold PLAY button) and it popped up automatically in the QuickReview of a picture just taken.

I would really love to get this feature back, as I guess it is the most accurate raw histogram available in ML. The LV one must be based on something less accurate than the post-picture version right?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on February 09, 2014, 08:13:24 PM
I wrote about it a few posts ago: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7473.msg95940#msg95940
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: perkaer on February 09, 2014, 08:28:41 PM
I wrote about it a few posts ago: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7473.msg95940#msg95940

Ah I see, so its non-trivial to enable it.. I would donate 20 EUR instantly if it got fixed soon (gonna do it anyway though, dual ISO made me less sad I did not get Nikon : ).

But what about my speculations about the accuracy of the raw histogram in LV, can you trust it as well as a post-picture histogram?

And GREAT job on ML in general, really love it.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on February 09, 2014, 08:36:43 PM
The LV histogram is approximate (I would say +/- 0.5 stops); the QR one is much better, because it's computed from the real thing.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on February 10, 2014, 08:28:27 PM
Not sure if it's a known bug, but when using an external monitor focus peaking doesn't work. The dots are scattered all over the place as if the overlay has been shifted. Also, the histogram goes up almost a full stop or so when using a monitor as opposed to the default lcd.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: EstChris on February 11, 2014, 04:03:49 PM
Quick question - are the audio meters implemented in recent builds? Or do we have to use mk11174 builds, if we want audio? :P

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on February 11, 2014, 06:37:12 PM
Quick question - are the audio meters implemented in recent builds? Or do we have to use mk11174 builds, if we want audio? :P
theyre only in the mk11174 builds
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Jonnyb815 on February 15, 2014, 06:13:37 AM
How do you get the shortcuts to work? I hit the LCD Sensor and nothing.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on February 15, 2014, 06:19:53 AM
How do you get the shortcuts to work? I hit the LCD Sensor and nothing.
You need to go to ML Prefs Tab and goto Misc key settings to turn the feature on first.

Then goto Arrow/Set Shortcuts and choose the options you want set for the feature.

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Jonnyb815 on February 15, 2014, 07:11:07 AM
Thanks for the help. Wish it would work a little better cant get the sensor to work 100% of the time o well. Still nice to have.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: amp650d on February 16, 2014, 08:25:43 PM
Hi. Thanks a lot to everyone for magiclanter. May someone tell me if shorcuts are enabled in 650d. I've tried it but nothing works. LCD sensor is enabled ( on and movie, i've tried both), and function is selected for arrow keys too. On the other hand, temperature is about 54 degres sometimes on movie mode. Is this a normal temperature to work with? Thanks an apologies for my poor english.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: venture on February 17, 2014, 05:56:39 AM
Thanks alex and nanomad for enabling more functions in the last few days.

Some testing I've done based on Feb 17, 2014 build:

1) The intervalometer "stop after x shots" seems to be working fine.

2) For GlobalDraw = "On, all modes" and  Image Review = "Canon/Mnu:Hold-> PLAY":
In Play mode, exposure tools overlay (zebra, histogram, etc.) appears only on alternating shots taken..i.e. appears only on every 2nd picture taken. When they do appear, any action (zooming in and back out, etc.) removes the overlay until another two shots are taken.

3) CPU usage now available under Debug menu
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: venture on February 17, 2014, 06:14:22 AM
Hi. Thanks a lot to everyone for magiclanter. May someone tell me if shorcuts are enabled in 650d. I've tried it but nothing works. LCD sensor is enabled ( on and movie, i've tried both), and function is selected for arrow keys too. On the other hand, temperature is about 54 degres sometimes on movie mode. Is this a normal temperature to work with? Thanks an apologies for my poor english.

Which shortcuts are you specifically having problems with? In Liveview, I was able to enable/disable the arrow key shortcuts by covering the LCD sensor...Also, the Play mode shortcuts (Quick Erase, SET+control wheel, etc.) are working for me. Which build are you using?

Sorry, don't have much experience with temperature in movie mode. It seems that I remember seeing an earlier post regarding a similar issue though...
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: amp650d on February 17, 2014, 08:29:33 AM
Hi, venture. Thanks for your answer. When you said "covering", did you mean cover the lcd at all?, or just touch it? I´m using the build with audio meters from mk11174 from the january the 30, but i´ve tried before with early builds with no success. Audio is working fine (for me) in this build. Do you think it is going to be in nightly builds soon? Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: venture on February 17, 2014, 03:52:14 PM
Touching the sensor or placing my hand in front of it seems to work fine. I would highly recommend downloading the latest nightly and trying everything again. A lot has changed in the last couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on February 17, 2014, 04:03:55 PM
2) For GlobalDraw = "On, all modes" and  Image Review = "Canon/Mnu:Hold-> PLAY":
In Play mode, exposure tools overlay (zebra, histogram, etc.) appears only on alternating shots taken.

Seems to be 650D-specific (can't reproduce on my cameras). A video might provide some clues about what's going on.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: perkaer on February 17, 2014, 09:54:09 PM
Seems to be 650D-specific (can't reproduce on my cameras). A video might provide some clues about what's going on.

I can reproduce this behavior on a 650D with the most recent build. I made a small video:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2244215/only_overlay_on_every_second_shot.mov

And thx for looking into the missing overlay on 650D/700D :)

Per
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on February 17, 2014, 10:13:35 PM
Well, I'm afraid somebody with coding skills should trace the flow of events. First, make sure trigger_zebras_for_qr gets called (you can use a beep, a NotifyBox, a printf, some LED blinks or whatever you feel confortable with. The make sure the event arrives at livev_playback_toggle (if it gets lost on its way, find out where exactly). Then make sure draw_livev_for_playback is starting, and make sure it's not returning early for who knows what reason.

These are the troubleshooting steps I would follow; expect it to take from 1-2 minutes to half an hour (depending on luck and skills).
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: amp650d on February 18, 2014, 04:06:40 PM
Touching the sensor or placing my hand in front of it seems to work fine. I would highly recommend downloading the latest nightly and trying everything again. A lot has changed in the last couple of weeks.

Well. With the last nightly build from february 18, shortcuts still doesn´t working for me. Maybe i don´t know which is or where is the sensor i should cover or touch it to shortcuts works. Does someone may help me?, please. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: venture on February 18, 2014, 04:34:22 PM
The sensor is a dark square on the back, just below the flash hotshoe and above the viewfinder....
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: amp650d on February 19, 2014, 08:31:24 AM
The sensor is a dark square on the back, just below the flash hotshoe and above the viewfinder....

OK!! It works fine. Awesome. Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nyte on February 19, 2014, 07:20:20 PM
Is anyone using the 2014-02-19 03:54:51 nightly build ? What are the advantages over the 2.3 stable ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 19, 2014, 07:26:07 PM
There is no stable for 650D. Yet.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nyte on February 19, 2014, 07:28:06 PM
My bad I mean the Alpha. This exact Alpha, on the 1.0.4 firmware.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 19, 2014, 07:42:29 PM
If your question is "Is there any advantage staying on alpha (Build file magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug03.650D104.zip) instead going nightly?" my answer would be:
Yes, you won't have to learn all the functions added since.

If you want to know all the differences: You leave the answer to others. I'm not a code historian. One way to find out would be browsing the commit logs.
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits

Ciao
Walter
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nyte on February 19, 2014, 08:18:24 PM
Thanks, but I'm just going to wait and see if anyone's actually using a nightly build on the 650D over the Alpha one. Interested in feedback.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 19, 2014, 08:21:10 PM
You may want to wait for someone answering who is *not* using nightly builds. ;-)
There is indeed a group you haven't in mind, yet: Those running on the darker side, compiling their own stuff.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nyte on February 19, 2014, 08:26:27 PM
Well, yes. Any user feedback is welcome. And yes I do realize there are people doing their own ML mods...but yeah :)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 19, 2014, 08:31:45 PM
To the forum:
If you're using 2013Aug13: Drop a line, please!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on February 19, 2014, 09:58:37 PM
Why would you use such an outdated version? There's no reason not to update
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davegravy on February 19, 2014, 10:31:36 PM
Why would you use such an outdated version? There's no reason not to update

There may be one exception... I just moved to the nightly from the stable August version.

As far as I can tell the Stable August version has the advantage that PinkDotRemover (PDR) v0.8 works successfully on the footage, while the nightlies do not. For nightlies one must use raw2dng cs2x2 to remove focus dots, which Rewind points out is not as good an approach as PDR (my limited understanding:  targeted pixel interpolation in PDR versus blanket chroma smoothing in raw2dng). To my less discerning eye, raw2dng is fine except when there's heavily overexposed areas of the image.

Improvements in the nightlies I've found are:

* slightly increased realized SD card write speeds, meaning higher resolution you can record at continuously.
* crop mode
* dual ISO mode (haven't really used it yet though)

I'm sure there's more but I've only been using ML for about a week and had an interest in serious video recording for about the same amount time.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 19, 2014, 10:43:07 PM
There may be one exception... I just moved to the nightly from the stable.

Again: There is no stable ML version for 650D.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on February 20, 2014, 12:17:06 AM
Seems to be 650D-specific (can't reproduce on my cameras). A video might provide some clues about what's going on.

Fix pushed, but zebras are still broken if you use Quickreview HOLD->play feature
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: venture on February 20, 2014, 06:25:28 AM
Amazing...Thanks a lot, nanomad.

Just tested the latest build (Feb 20, 2014) and it works great in Photo or Liveview modes. Zebra and Histogram appear consistently now after each shot. Seems to work fine in Quickreview HOLD->PLAY mode as well.

Thanks again. This makes exposure checking and quick zooming for focus check so much faster...
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Ardaburak on February 20, 2014, 07:29:52 PM
Hi, is there anyone who can list major features still missing like sound features etc? Last edit of 1st post is  october so. I'm not being lazy here just wondering if there's anything I have missed, reading through more than 40 pages.

Sorry for bothering and thanks, really.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: venture on February 20, 2014, 08:19:21 PM
This should help: http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/features (http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/features)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nyte on February 21, 2014, 04:10:08 PM
quick question time - can we do Multiple Exposure shots in-camera with the T4i ?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 21, 2014, 04:49:38 PM
Nope
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davegravy on February 21, 2014, 05:24:47 PM
Can I ask the help of someone who has Resolve 10 lite on their system? I need someone to load my project on their setup to see if they are getting the same artifacts that I am.

This was recorded with the latest ML nightly on my 650d, converted to DNGs using raw2dng cs2x2, and I'm getting dark pixellation in the overexposed areas that DOES NOT seem to appear in AE or Windows Photo Viewer.

Here's the .DNG stills (50MB):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30586759/bmd_help/m12-1831.zip

Here's the .DRP (project settings) file:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30586759/bmd_help/bmd_help.drp

Thanks!

EDIT: As jonsium pointed out, the artifacts don't appear in adobe products because they run a bad pixel algo when you import DNG
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nyte on February 21, 2014, 05:49:59 PM
Nope

I see. Oh well, used Canons DPP for it, works fine.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: venture on February 21, 2014, 07:36:24 PM
I see. Oh well, used Canons DPP for it, works fine.
If it helps, you could use Exposure Fusion to preview the combination of your exposures in the camera in Play mode.

You can assign Exposure Fusion to the SET+MainDial function under Image Review Settings in the Prefs menu. You can then preview the combination of 2 or more sequential shots.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nyte on February 22, 2014, 09:55:06 AM
If it helps, you could use Exposure Fusion to preview the combination of your exposures in the camera in Play mode.

You can assign Exposure Fusion to the SET+MainDial function under Image Review Settings in the Prefs menu. You can then preview the combination of 2 or more sequential shots.

Thanks I'll give it a shot!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jonsium on February 23, 2014, 08:18:31 PM
Can I ask the help of someone who has Resolve 10 lite on their system? I need someone to load my project on their setup to see if they are getting the same artifacts that I am.

This was recorded with the latest ML nightly on my 650d, converted to DNGs using raw2dng cs2x2, and I'm getting dark pixellation in the overexposed areas that DOES NOT seem to appear in AE or Windows Photo Viewer.

Here's the .DNG stills (50MB):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30586759/bmd_help/m12-1831.zip

Here's the .DRP (project settings) file:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30586759/bmd_help/bmd_help.drp

Thanks!

Hey Dave,
I tried it on my mac using davinci 10.1, didnt' see any noticable difference between DR and AE or even lightroom (for raw/dng viewing).  Can you post a screenshot?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jonsium on February 23, 2014, 08:33:28 PM
Just a quick note to all those following ML development.  Feb17th is a solid build to try if you've been hesitant to switch from the august alpha.  Things are far more polished now, though there are still cosmetic glitches.

MLV rec/snd is still unusable.  I get about 4-8 sec before skipping @ 720p where i can get continuous on rec_raw at the same settings.  The testmode shows a massive drop in data throughput (22-28 depending on the B/M combination).  Currently there are no tools available for macs to extract dng/audio from the MLV file either that are particularly robust...

EDIT: Should be noted that if you drop down a resolution level to 1152x648 you can get continuous.

Interesting bug: somehow the crop overlay for raw video was translucent, snazzy... couldn't tell if this was the intention though since it only showed up once then after a reset went back to solid black.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davegravy on February 23, 2014, 10:21:54 PM
Hey Dave,
I tried it on my mac using davinci 10.1, didnt' see any noticable difference between DR and AE or even lightroom (for raw/dng viewing).  Can you post a screenshot?

Thanks jonsium,

Here's a screenshot:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ijgu5z62cia2zzi/Screenshot%202014-02-21%2022.47.33.png

Wonder if it's an issue specific to Resolve and my specific video card. I'm on the latest nvidia driver and resolve version. What video card do you have? Mine is a NVIDIA GTX 560
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jonsium on February 24, 2014, 03:08:19 AM
Dave,  I was able to replicate the issue after poking through frame by frame.  After some testing and mucking around, i'm leaning toward a cs2x2 issue.  AE doesn't show the dots because whenever you're working with DNGs it will automaticially run dot remover behind the scenes, thus a clean image.  Actually, all adobe tools do this when working with raw/dng.  I baked in the black dots using Davinci to export into a prores sequence and took that into AE and that made them visable.

My best suggestion would be to take the source footage and without using cs2x2, or any PDR for that matter, check the frames.  Sure it'll have pink dots but it will identify the issue: either Davinci's raw engine is wonky (not that likely) or its cs2x2 (more likely).
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davegravy on February 24, 2014, 09:43:34 PM
Dave,  I was able to replicate the issue after poking through frame by frame.  After some testing and mucking around, i'm leaning toward a cs2x2 issue.  AE doesn't show the dots because whenever you're working with DNGs it will automaticially run dot remover behind the scenes, thus a clean image.  Actually, all adobe tools do this when working with raw/dng.  I baked in the black dots using Davinci to export into a prores sequence and took that into AE and that made them visable.

My best suggestion would be to take the source footage and without using cs2x2, or any PDR for that matter, check the frames.  Sure it'll have pink dots but it will identify the issue: either Davinci's raw engine is wonky (not that likely) or its cs2x2 (more likely).

Thank you! Seems you are right, it IS raw2dng. I wasn't aware that adobe was running a dot-remover - makes a lot more sense now.

I guess it's time for me to finally learn C++ and dive in to trying to fix raw2dng. I like the workflow I have with raw2dng and Resolve and I really shouldn't be using the copy of AE that I found on the side of the road (nor do I want to buy it)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jonsium on February 24, 2014, 10:28:58 PM
Thank you! Seems you are right, it IS raw2dng. I wasn't aware that adobe was running a dot-remover - makes a lot more sense now.

I guess it's time for me to finally learn C++ and dive in to trying to fix raw2dng. I like the workflow I have with raw2dng and Resolve and I really shouldn't be using the copy of AE that I found on the side of the road (nor do I want to buy it)

Glad I could help!  If you have a mac nearby, the best tool i've found so far is PDR interp by rewind.  It's written in java so i'd assume it would run on a PC as well?  It's very robust and produces superior results (imo).  It certianly can be difficult to find though, as its buried in a PDR topic somewhere on the forum.  I can re-up it if its beneficial, or someone can reply to this with a forum link if they find it.

Sidenote, if you're affiliated (even remotely) with an educational institution, you can get Adobe CC for $19/mo if cost is an issue with adobe's suite of stuff.  I'm not particularly a fan of leasing software... but its an option.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: davegravy on February 25, 2014, 05:09:21 AM
Glad I could help!  If you have a mac nearby, the best tool i've found so far is PDR interp by rewind.  It's written in java so i'd assume it would run on a PC as well?  It's very robust and produces superior results (imo).  It certianly can be difficult to find though, as its buried in a PDR topic somewhere on the forum.  I can re-up it if its beneficial, or someone can reply to this with a forum link if they find it.

Sidenote, if you're affiliated (even remotely) with an educational institution, you can get Adobe CC for $19/mo if cost is an issue with adobe's suite of stuff.  I'm not particularly a fan of leasing software... but its an option.

The MAC version of PDR continues to work with the latest nightlies? The windows version used to work but stopped after a certain version of ML (for reasons unbeknownst to me) so I switched to raw2dng...
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jonsium on February 25, 2014, 12:44:49 PM
The MAC version of PDR continues to work with the latest nightlies? The windows version used to work but stopped after a certain version of ML (for reasons unbeknownst to me) so I switched to raw2dng...

Indeed it does, its been pretty consistent.  I was suprized to also see that it also admirably handles the resolution below 720 as well (cant remember exactly what resolution that is off hand).  If I recall, anything that wasn't 720 was all sorts of no good.  However, that doesn't seem to be the case in my limited test.  I haven't looked too closely at IQ pre/post PDR, but it certianly cleared up the pink dots at a casual glance!

Nightly Build: 02/22/2014
[PDR]  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9ri28Sd2H7fUkMwb2QzWkw1S0k/edit?usp=sharing
[RAW] https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9ri28Sd2H7fTDNUdk90X21wSTA/edit?usp=sharing
I dont think google will display them accurately, but you can download and then compare.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: HrRaiko on February 26, 2014, 05:18:22 PM
In January was there audio meters in sound options, where is it gone?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on February 26, 2014, 05:23:09 PM
In January was there audio meters in sound options, where is it gone?
Version with Audio Meters is here, it is up to date with latest repo as of today Feb 26 2014
https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads)

Until our audio chip gets programmed yoo probably wont see audio meters in the nightly build any time soon, this is why I try to keep my version updated for anyone that wants a build with them.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jonsium on February 26, 2014, 10:26:57 PM
Until our audio chip gets programmed yoo probably wont see audio meters in the nightly build any time soon, this is why I try to keep my version updated for anyone that wants a build with them.

If you got it working, how come they haven't merged it?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on February 27, 2014, 01:29:21 AM
If you got it working, how come they haven't merged it?
Because it is considered a temp patch, its just best to wait till the audio chip is programed so full control of audio will be available then merge that. This patch is just a way to turn meters on so we can use them.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jonsium on February 27, 2014, 08:56:20 AM
Because it is considered a temp patch, its just best to wait till the audio chip is programed so full control of audio will be available then merge that. This patch is just a way to turn meters on so we can use them.

Ahh, that makes sense.  I swear, everyone who has contributed to ML is awesome! You all have done some really impressive work :)  It's hard to imagine that the first build was only a few months ago.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: amp650d on February 27, 2014, 09:06:03 AM
Because it is considered a temp patch, its just best to wait till the audio chip is programed so full control of audio will be available then merge that. This patch is just a way to turn meters on so we can use them.

Thank you very much to all magic lantern developers and specially to mk11174 for the audio meters updated builds while it is included in magic lantern nightly releases. Go ahead!!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on February 27, 2014, 06:36:52 PM
Thank you very much to all magic lantern developers and specially to mk11174 for the audio meters updated builds while it is included in magic lantern nightly releases. Go ahead!!

Right, all we need is now headphone monitoring.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: HrRaiko on February 28, 2014, 11:40:31 AM
Version with Audio Meters is here, it is up to date with latest repo as of today Feb 26 2014
https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads (https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads)

Until our audio chip gets programmed yoo probably wont see audio meters in the nightly build any time soon, this is why I try to keep my version updated for anyone that wants a build with them.
Thanks man :P
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on March 06, 2014, 05:54:32 PM
Sorry for my question, who to use Digital Zoom in the 650D? It's possible??
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rythmtech on March 12, 2014, 11:07:07 AM
"Sorry for my question, who to use Digital Zoom in the 650D? It's possible??"

Digital zoom is a waste on DSLR's and is just OK for pocket cams that don't have access to decent tele-zoom lenses. You are better off just taking your pix with your 70-300 at the tele end and crop in software....unless you are talking about "Magic-zoom" which is activated by using the +magnifying glass button  next to the thumb rest and is only zoomed in live-view for focusing purposes.

Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lucawen on March 12, 2014, 05:51:56 PM
This is true, my 70-300 is very good, same i need to more zoom... Thanks for you help.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: claudelec on March 12, 2014, 09:48:58 PM
There is only a "crop mode" around x3 and not a digital zoom; and only for video in 1920x1080.
In that respect, image is very good and you can use a 100mm macro in place of your 300mm..., with higher optical quality.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jonsium on March 13, 2014, 07:16:26 AM
I know this is not helpful at all for answering the question, but I suppose it would be beneficial to point out that a digital zoom is literally just a normal ol' image cropped and scaled up... which is functionally identical to just about every picture editor or ms paint equivalent out there.

pixels are pixels, sadly you cant record an image in higher (or even equivalent) definition using a digital zoom.  In fact, the on-camera version of digital zoom would likely be lower quality than using photoshop for an array of reasons regarding compute power/algorithms.

Sorry, i couldn't directly answer, but at least this is an alternative.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on March 14, 2014, 04:14:16 AM
Some time ago I was wondering why the external flash in live view didn't work using ML options, Well this might be good info for one of the developers like
mk11174 or Alex, The SL1 or 100D, Does fire external flashes in live view, I'm not a developer , but probably one of you guys could check the code and see
how it goes to apply it to the 650D, 700D or probably to all those ML Cameras that don't do this,
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lynx on March 17, 2014, 10:39:30 AM
Sorry for my question, who to use Digital Zoom in the 650D? It's possible??

yes it is possible with the version of ML I am using on my 650d. I am not sure which one it is though... Here is a video showing the use of it: https://vimeo.com/70659075

It is not ditigal zoom in the respect that it crops the image. It samples the pixels closer to the center of sensor rather than pixels spread across the sensor (video mode does not use 100% of all pixels on the sensor). It barely reduces the quality of the image...
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on March 17, 2014, 03:59:12 PM
Magic Lantern is installed to my camera (650D) almost for a year now. I'm doing street interviews and there are only 2 features i need of it:

1) Magic Zoom to get the focus right as quick as possible.
2) Headphone monitoring to be sure of my audio levels & to notice unexpected noises.

So far Magic Latern gave me neither (satisfactorily).

Problems related to Magic Zoom:

-First of all it is so pixellated that shooters (like myself) having hard time picking the details. Canon's own zoom method (when pressed magnification button) is far more sharper even though its magnification level is far more advanced.

-It flickers so badly while recording. (Also present when not recording, but not as much) It is so annoying that renders whole Magic Zoom useless because you can't see a thing.

Problems about headphone monitoring:

-It hasn't been implemented yet. (Though thanks to mk11174 and Alex i can see my audio levels on screen)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: spider on March 17, 2014, 09:14:48 PM
It barely reduces the quality of the image...
It improves the quality of the image.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: edge11 on March 18, 2014, 07:30:57 AM
Is any one getting continuous 720p mlv? If so what card/ setting are you using?
 I'm only getting exactly 1:50 seconds of footage with a san disk extreme 80mb/s uhs-1 class 10 32gb card. Is there any way to get 720p continuous mlv? Would a 90mb/s card help or am i already over killing it because of the controller speed limit?
also,
I got this on the 14/3/17 nightly build after changing the buffer fill method to 2 in the mlv settings.
(http://i.imgur.com/onNue2Xl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/onNue2X)

I switched back to Buffer 4, made my warm up to, used it a bit, everything was fine. I then decided to use the frame skipping allow option and showed me this screen after the 1:50 seconds.
(http://i.imgur.com/62mKK3al.jpg) (http://imgur.com/62mKK3a)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: lynx on March 19, 2014, 05:35:02 AM
It improves the quality of the image.

I am sorry if this is the wrong place for this discussion in advanced.

That is interesting to hear Spider. I have no way to prove how the image quality is affected by movie crop mode, but it appears (to my naked eye) to soften the image. Movie crop mode does improve, or completely alleviate moire aliasing by creating less or no space between effective pixels. This can be considered and improvement. Do you have more information on how movie crop mode affects the image quality? I can't find to much info about it myself.

Also, Movie crop mode basically turns your sensor into one 1/3 the size, and takes away that beautiful depth of field that we get from the  beautiful large sensors of dslrs, one of the things that attracted people to use dslrs for movie making in the first place. I have found movie crop mode useful when trying shooting an object far away with out a good telephoto lens on hand, and I am glad I have it on the camera for that purpose. I have shot a couple of stage performance using it, and helped me get good close ups of the performers from a long distance with a 17-55mm lens. Thank you ML!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on March 19, 2014, 09:44:00 PM

Quote
Is any one getting continuous 720p mlv? If so what card/ setting are you using?
 I'm only getting exactly 1:50 seconds of footage with a san disk extreme 80mb/s uhs-1 class 10 32gb card. Is there any way to get 720p continuous mlv? Would a 90mb/s card help or am i already over killing it because of the controller speed limit?

The controller is the limiting factor, a faster card will not help.  Sorry
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: edge11 on March 20, 2014, 06:51:47 AM
The controller is the limiting factor, a faster card will not help.  Sorry
I figured. I can squeeze an extra 10 seconds out of it with global draw off, I'm peaking at 36.8mb/s then after the 2 minute mark it the mb/s goes down until it eventually skips a frame. Any other suggestions as to how to get more time out of 720p raw?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on March 20, 2014, 03:22:36 PM
as far as i know, you are out of luck, decrease the resolution and you will be fine.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on March 22, 2014, 11:17:05 AM
New features starting from the next build:
 - Defishing and Anamorphic preview
 - Expsure Sim control in LV/Photo mode
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: gtyyxray on March 22, 2014, 12:23:39 PM
Hi everyone,

i need some HELP here, as my Canon 650D not showing Dual ISO in ML.
(http://imageshack.com/a/img812/9059/ud8b.jpg)


Compared the setting with another Camera that come with ML. Is that normal?
(http://imageshack.com/a/img69/6008/3jy7.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 22, 2014, 12:28:57 PM
Access Module tab, activate DUAL_ISO.MO, restart cam.
It seems to be a rather outdated build you're using. You may switch to a more recent nightly build.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on March 22, 2014, 01:36:57 PM
New features starting from the next build:
 - Defishing and Anamorphic preview
 - Expsure Sim control in LV/Photo mode

That is going to help a lot to us Live view shooters, Great :D
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Frendo on March 22, 2014, 06:56:42 PM
Hello, is there any side, for good Setting for ML... thx
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Rewind on March 22, 2014, 07:24:03 PM
Hello, is there any side, for good Setting for ML... thx
Every possible setting may be good for some purpose ;)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on March 23, 2014, 07:43:26 AM
Hello, is there any side, for good Setting for ML... thx

http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/userguide (http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/userguide)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on March 23, 2014, 04:07:52 PM
Today, just out of curiosity i decided to see what happens if i use Sescom A/V to 3.5mm jack converter cable (intended for headphone monitoring) on my 650D.

Screen went black the moment i plugged it in. Then there were codes on the screen when i took it out. Here's a screenshot of what was going on:

(http://sv171.piclect.com/dd416ce1b6e1138f04f0aabab493cb59/c2b52cd92/o/14/03/23/vram1.jpg)

There were also numerous .LOG files generated in the parent directory of my SD card. If anyone wants to look at them, download from here: http://s3.dosya.tc/server20/uwAZQR/logs.rar.html

More pics on topic:

(http://s17.postimg.org/u0yikhnh7/2014_03_23_15_55_15.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/u0yikhnh7/) (http://s8.postimg.org/fcytslgm9/2014_03_23_15_55_30.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/fcytslgm9/) (http://s3.postimg.org/9h4xmvh67/2014_03_23_15_55_40.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9h4xmvh67/) (http://s1.postimg.org/bcxbvkp5n/2014_03_23_15_55_54.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/bcxbvkp5n/)

First picture was taken when the cable plugged in for the first time. You can see the screen went dark. The second one is when the cable plugged out. Third was taken to show that ML menu was still usable when the message was displayed in LV. Fourh was taken to show that Canon menu was usable when the message was displayed in LV.

The cable I used in this "experiment":
(http://s27.postimg.org/7al4qqfnj/IMG_1668.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/7al4qqfnj/)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: edge11 on March 24, 2014, 04:02:20 AM
as far as i know, you are out of luck, decrease the resolution and you will be fine.
I've been reading that it does 720p continuous in regular raw mode when formatted to exFAT. I returned my 80mb/s card and got a 95mb/s (might get a bmpcc soon). Does any one know if there are extra steps when formatting to exfat or do i just format it and proceed as usual?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on March 24, 2014, 05:54:27 PM
New features starting from the next build:
 - Defishing and Anamorphic preview
 - Expsure Sim control in LV/Photo mode

Loving the anamorphic live view thanks so much for giving it to the 650d I've been wanting it ever since you guys put it out for the 5dmrkIII! If anyone is looking for the new build with mk11174 audiometers he updates pretty much everytime anything worth having is put into the nightlys here's his download page https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads big thanks to everyone working hard to make the 650d a better tool for filmmakin. Now the exposure sim what exactly does that do? I can't seem to toggle it on and off it's just stuck in "movie"
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on March 24, 2014, 07:05:23 PM
Loving the anamorphic live view thanks so much for giving it to the 650d I've been wanting it ever since you guys put it out for the 5dmrkIII! If anyone is looking for the new build with mk11174 audiometers he updates pretty much everytime anything worth having is put into the nightlys here's his download page https://bitbucket.org/mk11174/t5i/downloads big thanks to everyone working hard to make the 650d a better tool for filmmakin. Now the exposure sim what exactly does that do? I can't seem to toggle it on and off it's just stuck in "movie"
I installed this and can't see the audio tab. Where do you activate audiometers?
OK, got it.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jaegersing on March 25, 2014, 03:11:39 AM
I am using v2.3.NEXT.2014Mar11.650D104 and cannot find how to restore the WB setting to Auto. I have tried searching and the advice given (use the Q button to select Quick Menu, select the blank WB submenu and then use the top dial to adjust the WB back to Auto) does not work for me. The top dial does not change the WB selection, and anyway it is already showing Auto, but my ML menu is still showing a Kelvin number for WB.

Can anyone please help?

Richard
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: edge11 on March 25, 2014, 03:51:10 AM
I am using v2.3.NEXT.2014Mar11.650D104 and cannot find how to restore the WB setting to Auto. I have tried searching and the advice given (use the Q button to select Quick Menu, select the blank WB submenu and then use the top dial to adjust the WB back to Auto) does not work for me. The top dial does not change the WB selection, and anyway it is already showing Auto, but my ML menu is still showing a Kelvin number for WB.

Can anyone please help?

Richard
from what I have played around with, the way you go back to auto is by doing it in the canon menu. So press "Q" and set your wb to auto.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jaegersing on March 25, 2014, 07:14:34 AM
from what I have played around with, the way you go back to auto is by doing it in the canon menu. So press "Q" and set your wb to auto.

Thanks for the reply. As I mentioned, I have tried this but am unable to change the WB selection this way. Have you actually managed to make this work with a recent ML build? If so, which version?

Richard
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 25, 2014, 07:26:05 AM
Canon menu -> Q -> Select blank field in the middle row, 2nd from left -> SET -> Select AWB -> SET
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Pash0k on March 25, 2014, 10:52:55 AM
Anybody can make a video review of the latest version of ML? Audiometer is already displayed video-mode?  Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: jaegersing on March 25, 2014, 01:08:05 PM
Canon menu -> Q -> Select blank field in the middle row, 2nd from left -> SET -> Select AWB -> SET

Hi Walter thanks for the reply. I was going crazy with this, but your instruction about "middle row" helped me solve it. I have been working in Video mode (which is how I use the cam most of the time) so the Q menu has 2 columns and nothing that you would describe as a "middle row". This is where I was unable to set WB to Auto. As soon as I read your post, I decided to check Stills mode and it worked great.

Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on March 25, 2014, 06:07:07 PM
Anybody can make a video review of the latest version of ML? Audiometer is already displayed video-mode?  Thanks

I helped mk11174 test the audio meters so he could bring them to the 650d nightlys but they aren't "stable" so now he just updates his download page whenever soemthing he thinks worth having comes out. I can make a video explaining what you have to do to get meters on your 650d to work properly. I use them all the time and I've never had a problem, once you get the hang of it it becomes second nature. I'll try and have the video up by this weekend for you
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on March 25, 2014, 06:09:32 PM
I have the meters patch in my test queue. A video explaining usage would be great
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on March 25, 2014, 10:02:14 PM
I have the meters patch in my test queue. A video explaining usage would be great
What kind of usage do you mean? The patch just turns on the meters in Auto mode, so they work with ML, but once you either go to canon audio menu or record a clip, then the meters switch to whatever mode you have it set to in canon, Auto, Manual or disabled, and then they stay on correctly until you reset camera.

The patch turns them on and the only resets them again when a recording is done or you play a clip or goto canon menu.

Without the patch, if you just activated the meters, they would turn off anytime you played a clip on camera or went to Canon meter menu or finished a recording, and they would stay off.

It is just a way to get the IC going.

It works just fine for anyone that has used the builds with it, a good temp solution until chip is coded.

But if you need video on something else, then that can be done too??
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on March 25, 2014, 10:36:21 PM
That is good enough :)

I kinda hate taking attribution for something I didn't do. If you push a PR I'll merge it without hesitations.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: papkee on March 28, 2014, 07:03:16 PM
I've got a question for nano and anyone else who may be able to help.

I use the histogram display religiously, as well as the zebras (and I'm sure many others do as well) but I've run into an interesting quirk. When I use my Ikan VL5 monitor, the histogram jumps up almost a full stop. Since my monitor is not exactly a SmallHD, it is a bit brighter and not calibrated all too well. But, I want to rely on my histogram and zebras to make sure I'm still in focus and this exposure jump really prevents that from happening.

Where exactly does the camera get its histogram data from? Why does the meter jump up when I plug in my external monitor? This is pretty important, because I've been using the T4i a lot recently for client work and using the built in lcd is not a very professional look.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on March 29, 2014, 12:23:04 PM
I think the histogram in HDMI mode uses the RGB LV data and not the raw one. The RGB data is affected by picture styles and such.

I'll look into it as soon as possible

Regarding the meters patch, it does not apply cleanly. It needs to be fixed agains the current ML code and re-submitted.
You can follow progress here
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/457/650d-700d-maybe-ok-to-turn-back-on-audio
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: maximehaag on March 30, 2014, 10:41:59 AM
Hi,
Great to see things moving again, lately.
Just wondering, is there still a lot to do before Beta phase ?

Thank you for your work.
Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on March 30, 2014, 01:22:53 PM
Just to update everyone, nanomad merged in the meter patch I commited so the meters should be in the nightly soon, so you won't have to get the version from my download site anymore!!!  :D
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on March 30, 2014, 01:36:06 PM
Just to update everyone, nanomad merged in the meter patch I commited so the meters should be in the nightly soon, so you won't have to get the version from my download site anymore!!!  :D
Finally, Please let us know the happy moment
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on March 30, 2014, 01:41:38 PM
Finally Please let us know the happy moment
Should be in this next nightly.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: edge11 on April 02, 2014, 07:51:36 AM
Tonights nighly
(2014-04-01 17:55:12 -0700)
doesn't load for me, any one having the same problem?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on April 02, 2014, 07:54:24 AM
Meters came out on the 30th nightly
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on April 02, 2014, 09:33:19 AM
Tonights nighly
(2014-04-01 17:55:12 -0700)
doesn't load for me, any one having the same problem?

Mine installed and everything is working just fine
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on April 02, 2014, 02:56:19 PM
Mine installed and everything is working just fine

Not only works fine works perfect because manual sound was fixed and now auto and manual is perfect
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: i love street on April 02, 2014, 06:25:36 PM
Tonights nighly
(2014-04-01 17:55:12 -0700)
doesn't load for me, any one having the same problem?

It's my first ML instal myself. I'm just reading the nightly forums because April fools jitters. I've downloaded everything from this step by step & compared the files with latest night. I already noticed forum posts stating that you have to have the original nightly instal to get the latest nightly to instal if I'm reading the blogs and forums correctly.

I'll post back later if my instal goes well.

From what I've read, this is for the original instal of ML nightly.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7473.0


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lego camera with custom retro fit star-wars mods
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: i love street on April 02, 2014, 07:21:38 PM
Just installed everything as per the forum's & blogs suggest, starting from the first release & then just manually deleted the ML files & replaced the ML files on the SD card with the latest nightly release & all systems go.

I did notice the EOScard 1.40 was able to remove the old ML files it seems but didn't test it. Also, looks like you can run different ML release depending on what files you have on *each SD card. I was not aware I had to have the ML files on all my SD cards, pretty cool if you want to work with out ML or something.

1
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/10003520_638373862883552_637298164_n.jpg)

2
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/734475_638373909550214_818030659_n.jpg)

3
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/v/t1.0-9/1970483_638374122883526_62787449_n.jpg?oh=1b34a89ec6b18537bf7fa7bb08435bbf&oe=53BC4692)


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lego camera + ML with custom retro fit star-wars mods
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on April 03, 2014, 05:17:23 AM
I already said my thanks but I've been using the anamorphic preview a lot lately and I just really want to thank the devs for bringing it to the 650d wow I wasn't using my anamorpihic because it was a pain to focus with the stretch but I am filming nothing but anamorphic now and I'm in love! Thanks so much!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on April 04, 2014, 03:14:03 AM
Hey everyone I was wondering if anything has been changed with the whole bitrate hack? I can easily record x3.0 bitrate WITH sound 1920x1080 24fps onto a sandisk extreme 80mbps card with no problems with playback on camera and no buffer fill up dose anyone else shoot with higher bitrates? Does it effect anything or is it still one of the ML features that hasn't quite been figured out yet?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on April 04, 2014, 07:00:39 AM
just a shout out to the devs...  its nice to see so much active development. I use ML 100% of my shooting, and (almost) everything is 100% stable. Best alpha i have ever tested. Its clear from that activity on this tread that there are almost no issues. Props!

Keep up the work, if there is any additional stuff i can help with ( i will keep moderating these treads) you know how to find me! 
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nautilus on April 04, 2014, 01:18:46 PM
just a shout out to the devs...  its nice to see so much active development. I use ML 100% of my shooting, and (almost) everything is 100% stable. Best alpha i have ever tested. Its clear from that activity on this tread that there are almost no issues. Props!

Keep up the work, if there is any additional stuff i can help with ( i will keep moderating these treads) you know how to find me!

There are issues. Check the first post.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: blade on April 04, 2014, 01:22:45 PM
There are issues. Check the first post.

I am aware of the bugs, and other stuff that is not working 100%, but please consider that this an alpha build...
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Nyte on April 05, 2014, 10:14:53 PM
Whoa, audio meters, finally! Can't wait to test it out!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on April 06, 2014, 01:05:57 AM
Whoa, audio meters, finally! Can't wait to test it out!
Might be of use to you or someone else, read from this post: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5951.msg110386#msg110386 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5951.msg110386#msg110386)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on April 06, 2014, 03:01:35 AM
Mk11174 that link was def worth reading! Your module works on the 650d and also fixes the issue with having to go to canon menus before seeing the right meters! I set my gain to 1 step in ML  wich Is what i have in the canon menus and when I turn my cam off and on the meters still show the correct meters without having to open canon menus or record a small clip this is great!
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on April 06, 2014, 03:05:10 AM
Ok I may be a bit confused is analog gain the same as the canon meter system? I always set my canon menu to 1 step from zero dose this mean I set analog gain to 1? I see the max analog gain is 21 but there are far more steps then 21 in the canon menu
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on April 06, 2014, 04:41:28 AM
Ok I may be a bit confused is analog gain the same as the canon meter system? I always set my canon menu to 1 step from zero dose this mean I set analog gain to 1? I see the max analog gain is 21 but there are far more steps then 21 in the canon menu
No, its just my own numbers that I used in simple math with the raw max number, its 21 * 3 any higher will crash so it is a bad value, so I didnt like having to go through a range of 0 to 63, so I set it 0 to (21 * 3) so theres no fancy math, just a simple volume control unrelated to values of Canon meters, but may be the same, I have no idea what each value is on the canon meter. The module just simply allows you to adjust your mic input up or down with ML for people who dont feel like going into Canon menu.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: glassescreditsroll on April 06, 2014, 04:43:55 AM
Oh ok I'll do some testssoon and try and find out the best settings and maybe compare between canons levels
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on April 06, 2014, 04:46:11 AM
Oh ok I'll do some testssoon and try and find out the best settings and maybe compare between canons levels
ok, sounds good, I am not a pro coder so I try to keep things as simple as possible, lol  :P
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on April 06, 2014, 10:07:02 AM
Oh ok I'll do some testssoon and try and find out the best settings and maybe compare between canons levels
Hmm, I just counted the manual adjustments in the Actual Canon Menu, it does go from 0 to 63.

So question is, do we like the quicker way to get from min to max by multiplying by 3 or finer control from 0 to 63 just as in Canon menu???

I will be happy to tweak it however you think is best??
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on April 06, 2014, 02:09:57 PM

So question is, do we like the quicker way to get from min to max by multiplying by 3 or finer control from 0 to 63 just as in Canon menu???

I will be happy to tweak it however you think is best??

X3 is better hands down.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: a1ex on April 06, 2014, 02:13:20 PM
So... what advantage do you get by duplicating Canon controls in ML menu?

Are there differences in what the meters are showing? Last time I've checked on 5D3, they were showing the same thing.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: Felipe on April 06, 2014, 02:25:06 PM
So... what advantage do you get by duplicating Canon controls in ML menu?
Are there differences in what the meters are showing? Last time I've checked on 5D3, they were showing the same thing.
ML Audio menu is faster or more simple, concept is clearer, steps x3, more logic for this device. Visual representation matches 100% what we see when recording
 8)
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: demetrisag on April 06, 2014, 05:02:48 PM
Why is there an *.fir file in today's build?
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: nanomad on April 06, 2014, 07:12:48 PM
It's the new installer. Safer, works out of the box without having to install the old alpha first
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on April 06, 2014, 07:19:25 PM
So... what advantage do you get by duplicating Canon controls in ML menu?

Are there differences in what the meters are showing? Last time I've checked on 5D3, they were showing the same thing.
The advantage is that your already in ML if your using ML so it is faster to adjust the audio from ML and if we stick with x3, you can go from min to max quicker the Canon Manual menu.
Title: Re: Canon 650D/T4i 1.0.4 [Status: Alpha]
Post by: mk11174 on April 06, 2014, 07:28:48 PM
I added the feature to go from Internal Mic to External mi