Hi everyone, looking for 1000x cards on Ebay reveals a few (very few) brands currently offering cards at this speed. There is the more common Lexar (often with the word 'genuine' attached, hinting the fact that there may be lots of fake ones out there?) but there are also toshiba, transcend, hoodman and Delkin just to name a few.
A 128 gb 1000x from a Brand called 'Komputer Bay' cought my eye as it costs 275$ (+- 500$ less then the Lexar counterpart), but the description states: 'NOTE: The Nikon D800 Camera's firmware currently only supports 128GB Compact Flash Cards manufactured by Sandisk or Lexar.'
Not that I really care what the D800 supports, nevertheless it made me wonder if there are this type of limitations for Canon DSLRs too, also I hear that not all the manufacturers actually deliver the promised speed, therefore I thought I start this thread in order for everyone to share their experience with different 1000x CF cards and avoid unpleasant issues when buying stuff like this online, thank you all for posting!
Yeah there's a lot of fakes on ebay but you can usually tell whether someone is an authorised seller. Andrew @ eoshd is using one of those Komputer Bay cards so you could drop him a line and see how it's working out with RAW. I'm using a Lexar 600x card and it's managing 1080p RAW on the MKIII ok.
cut out the term "YUV 422" as it is just 14-bit raw and no YUV anymore.
Quote from: squig on May 13, 2013, 01:35:32 PM
Yeah there's a lot of fakes on ebay but you can usually tell whether someone is an authorised seller. Andrew @ eoshd is using one of those Komputer Bay cards so you could drop him a line and see how it's working out with RAW. I'm using a Lexar 600x card and it's managing 1080p RAW on the MKIII ok.
Thanks and good to know, will get in touch with Andrew to find out about the Komputer Bay card!
Quote from: g3gg0 on May 13, 2013, 01:51:35 PM
cut out the term "YUV 422" as it is just 14-bit raw and no YUV anymore.
Ok, will do, had no idea what it really stands for to begin with, but thanks!
Andrew confirmed already that the KOMPUTERBAY 128GB Professional COMPACT FLASH CARD CF 1000X 150MB/s Extreme Speed UDMA 7 RAW 128 GB
Is working fine!
Quote from: agsingh on May 13, 2013, 04:37:30 PM
Andrew confirmed already that the KOMPUTERBAY 128GB Professional COMPACT FLASH CARD CF 1000X 150MB/s Extreme Speed UDMA 7 RAW 128 GB
Is working fine!
That is great!
Any benchmark done with those cards on ML so we can compare to Lexar?
My Sandisk Extreme Pro 90MB/s cannot record 1920x1080 without skipping frames, 1920x720 works great.
Looking forward to get one of those Komputerbay 128GB, just wanted to be sure with other confirmation or benchmark.
Thanks!
Quote from: agsingh on May 13, 2013, 04:37:30 PM
Andrew confirmed already that the KOMPUTERBAY 128GB Professional COMPACT FLASH CARD CF 1000X 150MB/s Extreme Speed UDMA 7 RAW 128 GB
Is working fine!
Great news! Hope they are still in stock when my cash flow is up again :o
Quote from: HugoFilipe on May 13, 2013, 05:11:23 PM
That is great!
Any benchmark done with those cards on ML so we can compare to Lexar?
My Sandisk Extreme Pro 90MB/s cannot record 1920x1080 without skipping frames, 1920x720 works great.
Looking forward to get one of those Komputerbay 128GB, just wanted to be sure with other confirmation or benchmark.
Thanks!
I get some skipping on my Sandisk 90MB/s card at 1920x1080 as well so I have a couple of Lexar 32G 1000x cards showing up tomorrow. For a while, I'll just have to bring a laptop to dump footage and swap cards a lot when I shoot raw.
I am looking to mess around on the 5d2 with raw rec.
5 minutes of video recording is enough for me so I am looking for an at least 32GB card or cheap 64GB card.
The options I look into:
INTEGRAL 32GB CF UltimaPro 800x (~ 90 euro) (according specs this will do upto 120 MBps write)
Transcend TS32GCF1000 32GB (~ 100 euro) (according specs this will do 120 MBps write)
Interlagos 64GB Compact Flash UDMA 6 (~70 euro) (according specs this will do 50 MB/s write)
50MB/s won't get me 1920x817 @ 24fps (the resolution /fps I hope for). I have good experience with transcend so I might buy that one. Any options I should consider?
Is there any chance of a benchmark from the Komputerbay 128GB 1000x card?
Will it be able to hold 1920x1080 continuously?
Latest compile for 5D3 as of now will all new mods tested with Lexar 32GB 1000x
at 24 fps can run for 200 frames with 1920 x1280 !!
at 24 fps can run the full 4GB with 1920 x1152 !!
and of course can run the full 4GB with 1920 x1080 as before.
Test with SanDisk Extreme 32GB 60MB/s
at 24 fps can run 180 frames with 1920x840
at 24 fps can run the full 4GB with 1920x720
Love the new start stop capabilities and the option to stop recording when the buffer is full.
Congratulations Alex and the whole team. Things are getting better.
I visited a nearby camera store yesterday and saw they carry Promaster 1000x udma7 CF cards, they carry 16,32, 64 gig at that store.
Does anyone here have any experience with this brand? Would it work for 1880x1080 for the 5dmkII ?
Any input is highly appreciated.
Quote from: RenatoPhoto on May 16, 2013, 02:41:54 AM
Latest compile for 5D3 as of now will all new mods tested with Lexar 32GB 1000x
at 24 fps can run for 200 frames with 1920 x1280 !!
at 24 fps can run the full 4GB with 1920 x1152 !!
and of course can run the full 4GB with 1920 x1080 as before.
SO is this a limitation of the build or the card? am seeing same frame limit with same 1000x lexar card (wondering if it should be capable of more than the 75MB/s or so the camera says its generating?
I want to try and shoot RAW 1080p video on my 5D Mark III, unfortunately i don't have a 1000x CF Card, so i was looking forward to purchasing one or two, i too came across Komputerbay cards, unfortunately these cards are not available in my country (India), i checked everywhere, on eBay.com people who are selling these cards have 'Asia' in excluded countries for shipping. Currently i see they are available in abundance in US only. If you guys come across a shop selling those cards with International Shipping to India, please let me know.
NOTE: This is all my personal opinion, experience and everything comes from my personal tests. You may or may not agree with it, so please no hating.
So, here are my observations from a week of testing different CF cards from different manufactures. All the test were done with latest build.
Komputerbay 128GB 1000X From benchmark tests it was around writing 60-72mb/s
Can record continuously up until 4GB limit in all resolutions before 1920x960, no skipped/dropped frames
1920x960 15-20 seconds of recording then it starts to drop/skip frames
1920x1080 10-15 seconds of recording the in starts to drop/skip frames
1920x1152 less than 5 seconds and then it starts to drop/skip frames
I returned the card since the writing speed is less than advertised.
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3x Komputerbay 64GB 1000x From benchmark test it topped out up to writing 92mb/s
I got them since they are faster than 128gb. Komputerbay tests and other user test prove that. My personal tests too show that they are much faster than 128gb.
Can record continuously up until 4gb limit in all resolutions before 1920x1280 with no dropped/skipped frames.
1920x1280 up to 5 seconds of recording and then it start to drop/skip frames.
Returned all of them since two of the cards failed on me yesterday and third one was about to fail too.
My personal experience and opinion about Komputerbay cards are negative. Those cards in my opinion are the most unreliable cards I've ever used. I will never use them on any professional shoot. I will never buy them again. I'm not the only one btw with this problems. Their cards are all vary in the speeds and not consistent. Their quality check suffer. One can get 128gb with 90mb/s write speed and other can get same card with less than 65mb/s. TRUST ME, you may not get the same results I got.
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SanDisk Extreme Pro 32GB (surprised me a lot) From benchmark tests it topped out up to writing 88mb/s
Can record continuously up until 4gb limit in all resolutions before 1920x1152 with no dropped/skipped frames
1920x1152 10-15 seconds and then it starts to drop/skip frames
Great performances from SanDisk after all tests. It still works great for me. REMEMBER its not 1000x card.
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Now to the winner of all.
Hoodman Steel 1000x 64GB From benchmarks it topped out up to writing 98mb/s SUPER fast. UPD: Writing speed goes up to 116mb/s, which is very impressive.
Can record continuously up until 4gb limit in all resolutions before 1920x1280 with no skipped/dropped frames.
1920x1280 5-8 seconds of recording and then it starts to drop/skip frames.
Out of all cards is by far my most favorite. I also used lexar cards before, but not with raw update. They are the best build quality cards out there (made of steel components). They use ssd technology in them which helps to achieve super fast writing and reading speeds. Also life time of this cards is pretty amazing too.
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Hoodman and SanDisk are great cards that I would recommend to people. I will also test lexar and transcend cards. I'm still amazed by the hoodman card. I'm pretty sure after new builds Hoodman and SanDisk would be able to record for longer periods. That's all I got for now. Hope that helps.
May I ask you to run this test with the Hoodman card?
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5471
Quote from: a1ex on May 18, 2013, 11:04:55 PM
May I ask you to run this test with the Hoodman card?
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5471
I'll do it right now, and as soon as I finish I will post it over there.
BTW, I just did one more simple 5min CF card test and writing speed got up to 115.9mb/s reading 133-142mb/s. This IS a crazy fast card. Also , card wasn't empty. It was filled with 5gb file.
Quote from: KMA_WWC on May 18, 2013, 10:48:14 PM
They are the best build quality cards out there (made of steel components).
Is the casing made of metal? If so, have you noticed any difference in terms of heat? (I imagine that a CF card in steel casing would dissipate heat better than one made from plastic)
Quote from: eyeland on May 19, 2013, 01:35:01 PM
Is the casing made of metal? If so, have you noticed any difference in terms of heat? (I imagine that a CF card in steel casing would dissipate heat better than one made from plastic)
I did btw, sorry completely forgot to mention that. It is much much cooler compare to all the cards, I would say not just simply cooler, but zero heat on it. At least I didn't feel it.
Hey guys, did anyone tried Lexar 1000x 32 or 64 gb cards ? I heared it writes about 93 mb/s
10x
I have the sandisk 32GB 90 mb/s udma7 and its dropping frames on 1920x1080 25 fps and tested 24 fps as well.
The 1280x720 25fps not dropping frames goes up to the 4gb and stops which is normal.
Quote from: KMA_WWC on May 19, 2013, 02:37:09 PM
I did btw, sorry completely forgot to mention that. It is much much cooler compare to all the cards, I would say not just simply cooler, but zero heat on it. At least I didn't feel it.
That sounds like a winner to me :D
Has anyone had experiance with the delkin cinema line?
only CF card that claims a speed of...
1050x
the 128gig version seems perfect for this kind of work, just wondering if anyone's used it before I jump onto the $700 price tag.
It's $640 at B&H. Seems to be the same speed as the Lexar, probably just rebadged. There's been mention of 64Gb cards being faster than 128Gb cards.
Quote from: squig on May 20, 2013, 07:59:51 AM
It's $640 at B&H. Seems to be the same speed as the Lexar, probably just rebadged. There's been mention of 64Gb cards being faster than 128Gb cards.
What they print, and what their actual speed is are not always the same.
reason I'm leaning toward delkin - they come from a cinema lineage, meaning their write speeds may not be marked up as they expect to be used for video.
A lot of CF cards have been tested already: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5471.msg37692#msg37692
As you can see in A1ex graph (which is not up to date), the Delkin cards habitually underperform. In my testing, I have found the Delkin 1000x to be >40MB/s slower than Lexar 1000x and >20MB/s slower than SanDisk Extreme Pro CF cards.
Quote from: Colemar on May 20, 2013, 10:23:55 PM
A lot of CF cards have been tested already: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5471.msg37692#msg37692
As you can see in A1ex graph (which is not up to date), the Delkin cards habitually underperform. In my testing, I have found the Delkin 1000x to be >40MB/s slower than Lexar 1000x and >20MB/s slower than SanDisk Extreme Pro CF cards.
great link, exactly what I was looking for. thank you!
Ive tested 16gig Lexar 1000x cards, two of them actually and they both are only able to reach 77MB/s So went back to the store to test the 32gig &64gig Lexar and they both reached 92MB/s
So if your planing on buying 16gig cards don't they wont crack 1080.
16GB Sandisk 600x
Have had no issues. Since the first time I put it in my 5d3 I'm able to get a steady recording of 1080p with ZERO dropped frames. Buffer doesn't blink more than one star.
I got approximately the following speeds in benchmark tests.
Komputer Bay 1000x 128GB: 73 MB/s write
Lexar 1000x 32GB: 92 MB/s write
Just tested RAW video recording on a 32GB Delkin 1000x UDMA 7 Card and only got max write speeds of 40mb/s. The print on it says its supposed to be up to 80mb/s. I'm pretty disappointed in this card. Will be returning it tomorrow.
Transcend 1000X 128GB - 85-90MB/s, consistently 10-15MB/s faster than my fastest Komputerbay 1000x 128GB cards, which topped out around 74-75MB/s. My Lexar 1000x 64GB card is still my fastest card clocking in at 97-102MB/s.
Quote from: bond4ufriends on May 18, 2013, 09:23:26 AM
I want to try and shoot RAW 1080p video on my 5D Mark III, unfortunately i don't have a 1000x CF Card, so i was looking forward to purchasing one or two, i too came across Komputerbay cards, unfortunately these cards are not available in my country (India), i checked everywhere, on eBay.com people who are selling these cards have 'Asia' in excluded countries for shipping. Currently i see they are available in abundance in US only. If you guys come across a shop selling those cards with International Shipping to India, please let me know.
Me too. Amazon wont ship them to New Zealand either. Have contacted Amazon to see if they will ship to nz.
I know this is kind of off-topic, but I am wondering if there exists a thread dealing with CF card benchmarks/experiences/testing (@speeds below 1000x)?
I have been following the ML forums for a long time (daily since the RAW breakthrough) and I have not been able to locate the desired information.
I am the happy owner of a 5D mkIII (after owning alot of canon and non-canon DSLR)
I am keen to experiment with RAW video, but for now, I cannot justify the expense of the 1000x cards (I invested in Transcend 400x and Lexar 800x Just before the RAW breakthough).
I would however, love to play around and hopefully contribute to testing of workflows and sharing of experiences.
As a videographer, I do abstract/experimental/narrative work and thus, I don't need continuous RAW recording to get going (anything between ~15sec and a few minutes would do just fine).
Long story short, I am looking for information pertaining to the maximum recording time in widescreen and cinema-scope @ 1920/24fps with various card speeds.
My apologies if I have overlooked this information on the forum as I for one find the endless "contamination" of threads with information already covered a distraction if not a nuisance in trying to keep up with all the relevant threads.
And again, thanks to everyone involved in this great initiative!
Any longterm experiences with the Transcend 1000x 128GB?
Seems to be a pretty decent performer @ 1080p... Is it keeping the speed until the card is filled up?
How far can one push the resolution with this one?
Transcend 128Gb 1000x is very slow. I've got 2 of them and none is faster than 68-70Mb/s write. Impossible to record decent raw files. I'm very disappointed, it's a waste of money, no more than 5% faster than 70% cheaper cards.
Does it at least work for 1:2,35 cinemascope?
Well, I don't know if it is the card or the firmware at the date that had a problem, but I was able to record this video here with Transcend 128GB 1000x:
It was recorded at 1920x1152px. After I turned the camera off, then I wasn't able anymore to record anything past 3 seconds, at any resolution.
Maybe... the System has changed the card slot.
Great information!
Quote from: KMA_WWC on May 18, 2013, 10:48:14 PM
They use ssd technology in them which helps to achieve super fast writing and reading speeds.
SSD stands for solid state drive, which basically means a storage device with no moving parts. This describes all memory cards - just a friendly FYI from a forum newbie.
It's really disheartening to know that I'm going to have to gamble with Komputerbay cards until I get one that writes above 100mbs. Ideally I'd keep playing until I got one that peaked at 120mbs.
Has Komputerbay or any of the other manufacturers been able to sort out what exactly causes the differences in write speeds?
The moment someone comes along and provides a card that GUARANTEES good write speeds I will be violently throwing my money in their faces.
I'm willing to pay decent change to get a guaranteed good write speed.
Quote from: anchoricex on July 22, 2013, 05:58:03 AM
Has Komputerbay or any of the other manufacturers been able to sort out what exactly causes the differences in write speeds?
As for Komputerbay I don't think they would care. There is a reason why they are much cheaper than the rest of the brands....
The big name brands seem to be really close to me.
Quote from: John-Jo on June 01, 2013, 01:46:52 AM
Me too. Amazon wont ship them to New Zealand either. Have contacted Amazon to see if they will ship to nz.
Yea have tossed up whether to send one to my brother in oz and have him send it over but the risk that it wont work is too great. Cant imagine trying to send it back for a second or third one. Went for a Lexar 32gb instead, got it for half the trademe price. Goes hard.
Quote from: Stedda on July 22, 2013, 08:52:53 AM
As for Komputerbay I don't think they would care. There is a reason why they are much cheaper than the rest of the brands....
The big name brands seem to be really close to me.
That stinks because if I'm not mistaken the lottery-winner Komputerbays are scoring highest in write speeds. There *needs* to be a card that guarantees these write speeds, even if they cost an arm and a leg.
Kinda, but you also have Toshiba 1055X.
It also doesn't seem to last. Reading around here and on different forums cards are losing these speeds after a short amount of time/stress and they are also going corrupt or just plain dead.
Some people are also going through 2 or 3 cards to get 1 good one. Others are lucky and get a good one right off the bat. I wouldn't touch them if one was free but thats just me.
There are reliable cards out there but they're expensive and only equally as fast. IMO are best option is what is under devolopment by the DEVs or a hardware option (SSD)
Quote from: Stedda on July 22, 2013, 05:07:36 PM
Kinda, but you also have Toshiba 1055X.
It also doesn't seem to last. Reading around here and on different forums cards are losing these speeds after a short amount of time/stress and they are also going corrupt or just plain dead.
Some people are also going through 2 or 3 cards to get 1 good one. Others are lucky and get a good one right off the bat. I wouldn't touch them if one was free but thats just me.
There are reliable cards out there but they're expensive and only equally as fast. IMO are best option is what is under devolopment by the DEVs or a hardware option (SSD)
I haven't seen any recent developments for hardware options. I hope I'm mistaken, but didn't that idea end up getting floored due to some impassable obstacles?
Believe me I would love to have some sort of SSD that could mount underneath my camera.
My komputerbay 128gig 1050x udma 7arrived today, promptly tested it! And unfortunately IT DID NOT WORK.
Cannot be formated by 2 cameras, 5d2 and 7d. cant be recognized by my PC as well.
I have a proven Lexar 1000x 32 gig for several weeks now and never failed me.
I wanted to try this out since there is one reviewer here in ML that tried it.
So I filled out my return form and sent it back.
edit: in touch with their tech support to find what caused problem and find solution. See my posts below for updates.
I have just bought Sandisk extreme pro 600x UDMA7 32GB.
5D3:
1920x1080p 24 and 25 fps - continous OK
1920x1080p 30fps 618 frames
Quote from: kgv5 on July 23, 2013, 07:46:22 PM
I have just bought Sandisk extreme pro 600x UDMA7 32GB.
5D3:
1920x1080p 24 and 25 fps - continous OK
1920x1080p 30fps 618 frames
Since when did you buy the 5D3? Much better than the 6D in terms of raw video...
I am talking with Komputerbay techsupport right now to isolate this problem. For now for those with UDMA7 1050x cards have a problem with older non UDMA7 card readers. If you have this hold on for my updates and DO NOT plug it into older cf card reader as it WILL CAUSE CORRUPTION ON THE CARD.
I'll update this post in a few hours as tech support will also be calling those who emailed and contacted them so we can isolate the problem.
One of the issues in using the new 1050x cf cards is using non UDMA7 card readers,
According to Chet at techsupport, non UDMA7 has the potential to corrupt the new 1050x cards. His advise to those who have purchased this fast cf cards is DO NOT INSERT THEM TO USB 2.0 CARD READERS.
UDMA7 card readers for USB 3.0 should be used as the new cards use a different voltage. The cards would protect itself and give you "card is write protected" message when an incompatible card reader with a different chipset is used. This will prevent further damage to the CF card.
They are sending over 2 128gig CF cards which I will test for the mkII, one is a new 1000X from a new manufacturing batch which they said has no more issues as the early ones and another 1050x CF which hopefully I can get to work with a compatible CF card reader.
I will update this when my tests will be done.
So far, one thing goes well for komputerbay for me, and that is a great and responsive technical support BASED IN THE U.S. that will resolve the issues you have with their product. Stay tuned.
Quote from: xNiNELiVES on July 23, 2013, 07:54:43 PM
Since when did you buy the 5D3? Much better than the 6D in terms of raw video...
Yeah, bought 5d3 couple days ago.
I am waiting for komputerbay 64GB but today bought sandisk 600x udma7 32gb, it's beyond my expectations, i am really impressed :D And it's sandisk so i hope it will be quite reliable.
for 24fps
2048x856 (2,39:1) continous OK
2240x938 continous OK
2560x1072 350 frames - as a 6D user i get used to such a frame number so very usable :)
2880x1206 120 frames
6D (with the VAF filter) raw 1808x756 (upscaled to 1920x800) vs 5D3 raw native 1920x800 - really hard to see the difference IMO (5D3 is continous of course but I didn't record clips longer than 20 sec).
Quote from: kgv5 on July 23, 2013, 09:31:23 PM
Yeah, bought 5d3 couple days ago.
I am waiting for komputerbay 64GB but today bought sandisk 600x udma7 32gb, it's beyond my expectations, i am really impressed :D And it's sandisk so i hope it will be quite reliable.
for 24fps
2048x856 (2,39:1) continous OK
2240x938 continous OK
2560x1072 350 frames - as a 6D user i get used to such a frame number so very usable :)
2880x1206 120 frames
6D (with the VAF filter) raw 1808x756 (upscaled to 1920x800) vs 5D3 raw native 1920x800 - really hard to see the difference IMO (5D3 is continous of course but I didn't record clips longer than 20 sec).
Well congratulations buddy hope your happy with the camera.
Today i recieved Komputerbay 64GB 1000x, works like a charm :D
2560x1090 (2,35:1) gives ~500 frames, 2560x1072 ~600 frames.
Seems that even 2,5K can be very usable.
Just tried mine (Komputerbay 32GB 1000x): at 2560x1090 23.976 it records around 1000 frames (estimates 1500). Will try to fix that (the buffering algorithm should really get 1500 frames, but it's stopping early).
Writing speed is around 109.5 MB/s (minor drop at the 4GB barrier). With exfat there should be no drop.
At 2560x1280 I get around 200 frames (both real and estimated).
Settings: 23.976, global draw on, no overlays enabled, all hacks from raw submenu enabled.
Seems it is faster, I am getting ~102-103MB and 500 frames is the 2560x1090 max
So the 64gb is slower than the 32gb? Or did you get a slow copy of the 64gb?
Don't know yet, it is super fast for me, couple days ago I had 40 with SD card ;)
EDIT: seems it is a slower one, in 5min benchmark max is 80 something but i am getting ~1000frames 1920x1080 30p, 24 and 25 continous of course. In fact not much faster than sandisk 600x udma7 32GB.
Quote from: kgv5 on July 24, 2013, 10:15:15 PM
Don't know yet, it is super fast for me, couple days ago I had 40 with SD card ;)
EDIT: seems it is a slower one, in 5min benchmark max is 80 something but i am getting ~1000frames 1920x1080 30p, 24 and 25 continous of course. In fact not much faster than sandisk 600x udma7 32GB.
Compare your 64GB to other KB 64GBs. You probably got a slow copy, I've always heard that the 64GB are just as fast as the 32GB.
Quote from: xNiNELiVES on July 24, 2013, 10:48:28 PM
Compare your 64GB to other KB 64GBs. You probably got a slow copy, I've always heard that the 64GB are just as fast as the 32GB.
In fact i did, it is not even achieving 90MB/s (82-88MB/s) in 5min benchmark, many people had 100-120MB.
But...for 1080p 24 and 25 is continous, 30p gives about 700 frames, quite enough for me, it is not bad. I think i will keep it, i don't want to wait couple of weeks and than get the one with 70MB or so. For the price -i think it is ok, the more important is how reliable it will be.
Quote from: kgv5 on July 24, 2013, 11:30:06 PM
In fact i did, it is not even achieving 90MB/s (82-88MB/s) in 5min benchmark, many people had 100-120MB.
But...for 1080p 24 and 25 is continous, 30p gives about 700 frames, quite enough for me, it is not bad. I think i will keep it, i don't want to wait couple of weeks and than get the one with 70MB or so. For the price -i think it is ok, the more important is how reliable it will be.
Yeah. The pitiful thing is that you're getting exactly what my 5D2 gets with that card, except that I have a
32GB 1000x.
In fact, no, I just got 90MB/s.
Just got the Transcend 64GB x1000 UDMA 7 which I bought form B&H - works perfectly with no dropped frames on my 5D3, 1920x1080, 25p.
I also use the Lexar 32 GB x1000 UDMA 7 which doesn't perform as well as I get a few dropped frames until it warms up a bit and then it's OK.
EDIT: See my next comment below.
Hi all,
I am trying to record 1920x1080 25p with my new Transcend 64 GB x1000, UDMA 7 which worked like a charm yesterday and it doesn't even do more than 3 seconds on my 5D3...
I haven't chnaged the settings and the Lexar x1000 32 GB works perfectly!
I have ordered the Transcend 128 GB x1000 UDMA 7 but maybe I should cancel my order??
Help please!
Are you sure your camera didn't switch to sd card recording?
Quote from: kgv5 on August 02, 2013, 04:00:21 PM
Are you sure your camera didn't switch to sd card recording?
Yes as I was trying the Laxer 32GB x1000 before and after I used the Transcend and it worked fine. The strange thing is that yesterday the Transcend worked like a dream - is it possible that it was somehow corrupted? Maybe by the card reader?
Quote from: oferlevy on August 02, 2013, 04:07:01 PM
Yes as I was trying the Laxer 32GB x1000 before and after I used the Transcend and it worked fine. The strange thing is that yesterday the Transcend worked like a dream - is it possible that it was somehow corrupted? Maybe by the card reader?
did you try to format it using your camera?
what is your USB card reader? usb 2.0 or 3.0 ? some 2.0 cf reader will corrupt udma7 cards.
Thanks guys!
I have managed to get it back to life by formatting it with the Transcend Autoformat which I downloaded from their website. I chose the 'complete' format as the 'optimised' didn't seem to do the trick. However, I think I am going to return this card and get another Lexar 64 GB x1000 UDMA 7 as the Lexar 32 GB works well.
can anybody confirm if the transcend 1000x cards play well with continuous raw? 32/64/128GB?
the komputerbay cards seem to be hit or miss and lexar seems to think it's selling diamonds...
Soulshooter,
I can't comment on the Transcend as the ones I have are older slow speed ones.
But with regards to KompmuterBay CF cards which I have been using and also testing several CF cards for ML use I can tell you the
KB 32gig and 64gig 1000x are at par with the Lexars which I also have.
I have been testing for the past weeks several CF cards from Komputerbay tech support themselves which know the specific needs of Magic Lantern users.
I'm testing CF cards that are not even sold like the 800x, I'm testing to see if its usable with ML raw video, unfortunately the 800x is not fast enough. We're still figuring out which controller firmware for the 128gig cards will make them work on the mkII, we know they work on the mkIII but KomputerBays also want to solve compatibility issues of the 128 gig on the mkII and 7D cameras. By next week my test on the 128 will be concluded so we'll know.
The 32 and 64gig 1000x, are good. Just make sure you use udma7 usb 3.0 cf card readers.
If ever they fail, komputerBay will replace them or refund you.
Here's the test results I did on the KomputerBay 128gig 1000X CF.
The 128gig 1000X KomputerBay cards to work both on 5DmkII and 7D. The 128 gig 1050x WILL NOT.
This is due to firmware on the CF controller, its older than the one on the 1050X. But both controllers are the same.
The 128 gig is slightly slower than the 64 and 32 gig version and here is a comparison of resolutions and number of frames the 128 can do on the 5DmkII.
Raw video recorded frames on 5DmkII (compared to 64gig in red)
1880 x 1058 16:9 = 762 ( 1049 )
1880 x 940 2:1 = 14,641 ( continuous 21,763 )
1880 x 800 2.35:1 = 17,875 ( continuous 21,763 )
--
1872 x 1054 16:9 = 686 ( 1,429 )
1872 x 850 2.20:1 = 16,777 ( continuous 21,763 )
1872 x 748 2.50:1 = Continuous
--
1856 x 1044 16:9 = 702 ( 1,960 )
1856 x 790 2.35:1 = 19,192 approx 50 GB
1856 x 742 2.50:1 = 43,156 approx 100 GB
--
1728 x 972 16:9 =15,578 ( continuous 21,763 )
Good tests. Hope KB sees this with their account.
KB already knows these results. They have provided me with assistance on the tests I have been doing.
By end of the week I will be testing their new 256gig 1200X CF card to see if they work with the 5dmkII and 7D. I might also be able to test it with a mkIII.
What I like is that they are following magic lantern developments and are trying to see which firmware will work with most canon cameras.
There are trade offs so a decision will have to be made on their part.
For instance, older firmware allows their high capacity cf cards to be compatible with mkII and older models.
However, this makes the cards susceptible to software or hardware corruption when used with older usb 2.0 cf readers.
New firmware adds better protection to the cards making the older cf readers "not detect" or see the CF cards thereby protecting it from being shorted or corrupted
however this makes them incompatible with several canon models.
Quote from: ted ramasola on August 20, 2013, 08:55:08 PM
KB already knows these results. They have provided me with assistance on the tests I have been doing.
By end of the week I will be testing their new 256gig 1200X CF card to see if they work with the 5dmkII and 7D. I might also be able to test it with a mkIII.
What I like is that they are following magic lantern developments and are trying to see which firmware will work with most canon cameras.
There are trade offs so a decision will have to be made on their part.
For instance, older firmware allows their high capacity cf cards to be compatible with mkII and older models.
However, this makes the cards susceptible to software or hardware corruption when used with older usb 2.0 cf readers.
New firmware adds better protection to the cards making the older cf readers "not detect" or see the CF cards thereby protecting it from being shorted or corrupted
however this makes them incompatible with several canon models.
256GB 1200x, Jesus christ man.
Wouldn't it be possible to flash a custom firmware developed my magic lantern to fix this?
I mean I rather use the old firmware because I have USB 3.0, I thought the older firmware has slower CF r/w speeds and is incompatible with ML. Is this true?
Quote from: xNiNELiVES on August 20, 2013, 09:00:11 PM
I mean I rather use the old firmware because I have USB 3.0, I thought the older firmware has slower CF r/w speeds and is incompatible with ML. Is this true?
I was not able to compare speeds between old and new firmaware as the 128 gig with new firmware would not run ML.
However, if I based it against the 64 and 32 gig which practically has the same controllers, I'd say the older firmware running on the 128 gig is a tad slower.
So for instance on for 1880 x 1058 16:9 the 128 gig gives 762 on the 64 its 1049.
at 1728 x 972 16:9 the 128 records 15,578 frames which is continuous 21,763 frames on the 64. But hey, thats already more than 10 minutes of recording.
Hey Ted,
I'm shooting primarily on a 5D II (and waiting for the 7D ML to mature). I might be looking to upgrade to the 5D III soon so I can have 60p capability with raw.
Would you suggest Komputerbay 64GB 1000x cards as the universal best choice? Right now I'm shooting raw with Sandisk 32GB 600x cards so I'm still compromising with ratios/resolution. And I work on Macs which don't have USB 3 so I'm still using a Sandisk Extreme CF reader with Firewire800.
Just to be on the safe side, can you also suggest a compatible card reader so I don't blow my cards with incompatible firmware?
Quote from: soulshooter on August 20, 2013, 10:56:03 PM
Hey Ted,
I'm shooting primarily on a 5D II (and waiting for the 7D ML to mature). I might be looking to upgrade to the 5D III soon so I can have 60p capability with raw.
Would you suggest Komputerbay 64GB 1000x cards as the universal best choice? Right now I'm shooting raw with Sandisk 32GB 600x cards so I'm still compromising with ratios/resolution. And I work on Macs which don't have USB 3 so I'm still using a Sandisk Extreme CF reader with Firewire800.
Just to be on the safe side, can you also suggest a compatible card reader so I don't blow my cards with incompatible firmware?
Yes, I would recommend the 64gig 1000X cards. KB tech support say its the old usb2.0 CF reader that burns out the udma7 cards so I asked what if a usb 3.0 card reader is used but plugged on a usb 2.0 port? They said it might be ok. But just just to be safe since I have an older motherboard so what I did was bought a usb 3.0 pcie card to connect my usb 3.0 card reader.
They recommend the kingston card reader with the model; FCR-HS3 but since it was not readily available in my area I just got a SIIG brand usb 3.0 card reader and it works.
looks to be a pain if i need to figure out a way to get USB 3.0 to my mac. even if it's backwards compatible with USB 2.0, those transfer speeds are gonna be crawling so that route is no good.
thanks for the info. did they tell you why connecting UDMA7 cards to USB 2.0 causes damage?
or wait a minute...is there any issue with connecting UDMA7 cards to firewire800 readers?
Quote from: soulshooter on August 20, 2013, 11:38:27 PM
or wait a minute...is there any issue with connecting UDMA7 cards to firewire800 readers?
The thing is make sure you have a CF reader that is udma 7 compatible. But they say to avoid a lexar card reader.
hey all,
first time posting, been following the ml raw threads for a while, thanks for sharing all the stuff you guys have tried out! So much inspiration in these forums.
Just picked up a few 64GB Komputerbay cards and was testing them out on the 5D2. I'm getting about 74.5 ish MB/sec after they're warmed up I can record continuously for probably 6-7 minutes on average before I get a dropped frame. Just wondering if that's standard for the 5D2 and 64GB 1000x Komputerbay Cards.
Does anyone know how to check the chipset on the cards? I noticed the benchmark tool doesn't show it on the 5d2, unlike the 5d3.
Thanks so much !
6-7 minutes, at what resolution?
Quote from: ted ramasola on August 21, 2013, 04:47:20 AM
6-7 minutes, at what resolution?
I can tell it's 1872@16:9. We all have this, it's when the card gets fuller it gets slower. That's why it's continuous and then it changes to 6000-7000 frames.
1856x1004 (I'm shooting at 1:85)
ah, so it's not the card that's the problem but the 5d2. I've tested all three cards with a usb3.0 reader and black magic's disk test and they all write at around 109MB/S. I guess I just want to make sure that those are the fastest speeds people are getting so I can decide whether or not to return them.
I'll have to test the 1872 16:9 and see how long I can record continuously
thanks a lot!
I just did a test where I recorded about 9 minutes continuously at 1852, then around 9:30 it drops from 75MB/S to 1.0-3.0 MB/S and then drops a frame and stops. I'm using the August 16th build.
Have you guys noticed that?
Quote from: gtsofilms on August 21, 2013, 05:15:28 AM
1856x1004 (I'm shooting at 1:85)
ah, so it's not the card that's the problem but the 5d2. I've tested all three cards with a usb3.0 reader and black magic's disk test and they all write at around 109MB/S. I guess I just want to make sure that those are the fastest speeds people are getting so I can decide whether or not to return them.
I'll have to test the 1872 16:9 and see how long I can record continuously
thanks a lot!
You should get continuous or past 40 gig with these resolutions.
1880 x 940 2:1
1872 x 936 2:1
1856 x 928 2:1
1728 x 972 16:9
make sure you have small hacks=ON
in canon menu stills. Raw=none Jpeg=small or large.
preferably 1880=OFF if you want optimum time.
Quote from: gtsofilms on August 21, 2013, 05:15:28 AM
1856x1004 (I'm shooting at 1:85)
ah, so it's not the card that's the problem but the 5d2. I've tested all three cards with a usb3.0 reader and black magic's disk test and they all write at around 109MB/S. I guess I just want to make sure that those are the fastest speeds people are getting so I can decide whether or not to return them.
I'll have to test the 1872 16:9 and see how long I can record continuously
thanks a lot!
Yeah that's actually the resolution that I had in mind, I just forgot.
Also it's not the 5D2. Drives do this, see SSD's for example.
Quote from: ted ramasola on August 21, 2013, 12:10:08 AM
The thing is make sure you have a CF reader that is udma 7 compatible. But they say to avoid a lexar card reader.
Hi Ted
Thanks for some seriously good ground work you've done with the KB cards. I'll be getting the 64GB x1000 cards for my 5D II. Seems like a good match. Just a quick question. I have the "
Lexar Professional USB 3.0 Dual-Slot Reader (UDMA 7)". Is that one "
safe" for the KB cards?
Thanks
Quote from: Davidos on August 27, 2013, 08:40:44 PM
Hi Ted
Thanks for some seriously good ground work you've done with the KB cards. I'll be getting the 64GB x1000 cards for my 5D II. Seems like a good match. Just a quick question. I have the "Lexar Professional USB 3.0 Dual-Slot Reader (UDMA 7)". Is that one "safe" for the KB cards?
Thanks
Davidos,
according to the technicians at KB, they tested several readers to see which ones are ok, the Lexar's has issues with compatibility. They recommend the kingston FCR-HS3. I got a cheaper SIIG brand USB 3.0 reader and its ok.
Quote from: ted ramasola on August 27, 2013, 10:38:57 PM
Davidos,
according to the technicians at KB, they tested several readers to see which ones are ok, the Lexar's apparently use a certain chip type that somehow is not compatible with the KB cards thus corrupting them. They recommend the kingston FCR-HS3. I got a cheaper SIIG brand USB 3.0 reader and its ok.
Good stuff. The kingstons are cheap enough on ebay. I'll pick one up there... :)
I'm on my 4th 64 GB 1000x card from KB. >:( I am going to return it. Not worth the hassle! Shit-- ruined a shoot and my name!
Yeah, it just did the same as the others-- crashed BEWARE!
Quote from: Kraemer on August 29, 2013, 09:32:00 AM
I'm on my 4th 64 GB 1000x card from KB. >:( I am going to return it. Not worth the hassle! Shit-- ruined a shoot and my name!
Yeah, it just did the same as the others-- crashed BEWARE!
While using Magic Lantern?
Hello guys! I got a 1000x 64GB KomputerBay Card and would like to try how it works on my 5D2, I´ll post my results here. But I wonder if there are already some conclusions about the various cards how to format the cards to achieve best speed results. Is there any table for that out, yet? Thanks! Martin
Quote from: Karmaschinken on September 03, 2013, 01:44:26 PM
Hello guys! I got a 1000x 64GB KomputerBay Card and would like to try how it works on my 5D2, I´ll post my results here. But I wonder if there are already some conclusions about the various cards how to format the cards to achieve best speed results. Is there any table for that out, yet? Thanks! Martin
Post your results here (video tests section) : http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8000.0
So all the tests will be in one place easily findable by anyone ! ;)
Hmmm, I don´t think I have to go further with testing. The card gives me 65MB/s, that is a little more than my 16GB Sandisk Extreme. I already read about the inconsistencies of KomputerBay regarding speed. However, I will give it another try by changing it to another card.
Well, just wanted to update you guys on my KomputerBay 64GB 1000x
I ordered it May 20th, and it worked pretty well, I got some decent speeds, but it was somewhat inconsistent (on some occasions, I'd get a dropped frame here and there when recording RAW 1920x1080 24fps)
But about 3 days ago, my card just completely failed on me while I was shooting at the aquarium, just shooting normal pictures. Didn't even have a SD card in, let alone Magic Lantern. It was working perfectly throughout the day, then just randomly when I went to take a picture, it said my card couldn't be read and it had to be formatted. I've tried 13 different recovery programs to try to recover my pictures from the weekend, but sadly it's not readable by anything.
I purchased it off eBay, and I just contacted them regarding their warranty and see if I can get a replacement.
Hi All,
I am very new to all this but read with interest. I decided to resurrect my 5DMKII for underwater use now it seems possible to shoot in RAW.
I ordered, without realising it wouldn't (according to the forum) work with the 5DMKII and asked to swap it for 2 x 64gb cards.
I received the following reply today from KB:
"This version of the 128GB is firmware bootable on the 5DM2.
Please let us know what RAW resolutions you get once you get the card.
Please let us know if we may further assist you."
Can anyone confirm this is the case?
Quote from: Brett on September 06, 2013, 08:20:21 PM
Hi All,
I am very new to all this but read with interest. I decided to resurrect my 5DMKII for underwater use now it seems possible to shoot in RAW.
I ordered, without realising it wouldn't (according to the forum) work with the 5DMKII and asked to swap it for 2 x 64gb cards.
I received the following reply today from KB:
"This version of the 128GB is firmware bootable on the 5DM2.
Please let us know what RAW resolutions you get once you get the card.
Please let us know if we may further assist you."
Can anyone confirm this is the case?
If it is a recent purchase then it should be ok. I have a 128 1000X with me and its tested ok for both firmware update and running ML.
It was the first releases of this card that had problems with firmware. It has since been resolved,
Thanks Ted, it arrived today after ordering on Wednesday so I guess this is good news.
HI Guys, I had problems with komputerbay x1000 128 gig, first, I couldn´t install it in my 5dM2. Second, Someone told me on the forum that many be is and old version x1050, and then I should to try to replace this card. However it looks see threads above, it´s a non reliable card, since cannot achieve what it suppose to reach > 90 m/s please do not buy kompubay 100x 128 gig card.
Quote from: cinemartin on September 15, 2013, 08:21:07 PM
HI Guys, I had problems with komputerbay x1000 128 gig, first, I couldn´t install it in my 5dM2. Second, Someone told me on the forum that many be is and old version x1050, and then I should to try to replace this card. However it looks see threads above, it´s a non reliable card, since cannot achieve what it suppose to reach > 90 m/s please do not buy kompubay 100x 128 gig card.
Got a 128gb card had to return it after 2 days because it no longer mounted on my computer and the camera couldnt format it. Got a replacement card and the same thing still happened. Not a reliable card.
It seems that 64gb are more reliable cards though.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/64GB-Compact-Flash-Memory-Card-1000X-Professional-UDMA-7-/181174615381?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_123&hash=item2a2ed93d55&_uhb=1
I just found this brand on ebay. No mention on the internet. It is cheaper for me than ordering KomputerBay from the USA, but is it worth the risk?
They even have this line in their description: Max. Writing Speed 78MB/sec... I don't think that's what you should expect out of a 1000x CF
Quote from: Mkolaj on September 26, 2013, 07:06:13 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/64GB-Compact-Flash-Memory-Card-1000X-Professional-UDMA-7-/181174615381?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_123&hash=item2a2ed93d55&_uhb=1
I just found this brand on ebay. No mention on the internet. It is cheaper for me than ordering KomputerBay from the USA, but is it worth the risk?
i wouldn't say that the KomputerBay is worth the risk. Considering this is riskier, it's just asking for trouble.
Quote from: euandrei on May 19, 2013, 04:09:59 PM
Hey guys, did anyone tried Lexar 1000x 32 or 64 gb cards ? I heared it writes about 93 mb/s
10x
Yeah they work great. I have the 32 gb.
Quote from: painya on October 05, 2013, 07:59:34 AM
Yeah they work great. I have the 32 gb.
Agreed, 81 MB/s out of the box. Consistently.
Currently running 82.9MB/s continuous crop mode in
[email protected], and it brings a tear to my eye.
I've got a komputerbay x1000 32gb for a couple months now. Has been working fine and fast and doing everything it is supposed to. I read a lot of complains on the 64 and 128 Gb models though.
Hi, just wondering if anyone has tried out a Delkin udma7 1050x ?
They are labled as 120 mbs write speed (though not sure what that means in terms of actual sustained write speed)
I've had a search through this and other threads but can't seem to find any mention of them in relation to ML Raw suitability.
Cheers.
Komputerbay sent me an email, asking me to remove this post. So it's done.
The message says:
"Hello,
Please remove/revise your post on ML.
We kept you advised at all time about your shipment. We even provided you with tracking.
Amazon does not allow us to ship your item to an address other than what's advertised on Amazon. We are now making an exception against Amazon's rules.
You cards were corrupted as you have used them on a NON UDMA7 device."
4 out of 4 is really close to a 100%, not a good job KB :(
Quote from: jose_ugs on October 10, 2013, 09:14:43 AM
4 out of 4 is really close to a 100%, not a good job KB :(
You don't expect them to have a return rate of 100% do you? That's just silly.
Here's the interesting part: If they refund him, or send him new cards, that means they totally know what they're trying to sell :(
Quote from: jose_ugs on October 10, 2013, 10:58:17 AM
Here's the interesting part: If they refund him, or send him new cards, that means they totally know what they're trying to sell :(
No it doesn't, it means they have customer service if they replace or refund your faulty product.
I haven't seen much about the Lexar 128GB 1000x cards, probably because they are incredible expensive. But they might be worth saving up for if they are headache-free like the 64GB cards. Has anyone been shooting raw with these successfully?
Quote from: ted ramasola on August 27, 2013, 10:38:57 PM
according to the technicians at KB, they tested several readers to see which ones are ok, the Lexar's has issues with compatibility. They recommend the kingston FCR-HS3.
Glad I caught this. Ordered two 64GB KB 1000x off of amazon this morning with a LEXAR usb 3.0 reader... caught it in time to cancel that reader and order the right one. This is definitely a learning process for raw. Just double checked and the laptop I will be dumping to has USB 3.0.
Ok so pros - with this RAW business - I'll be shooting a short in the Spring - want to shoot it RAW. It will be about 18 minutes (I'll have to knock 3 minutes out for festival restrictions). It'll be a 3 day shoot... any idea how many external hard drives I'll need? I'm figuring two 2TB drives to hold the footage?
Would I be ok with (2) 64G 1000x and (1) 32G 1000X cards or would I need more? I understand it would be a constant dump rotation going.
2x 64GB 1000x, 2x USB 2 reader (alcor), still ticking, no corruption. It has been months now.
QuoteMax. Writing Speed 78MB/sec
Take what they say with a grain of salt, they swear up and down that the 64s should work as exfat on 7D and they do not. Something probably gets lost between sales/support and the engineering dept.
You can have 5x 64gb for the price of 1 lexar 128gb. Thats almost an hour and a half of raw without copying anything.
Komputerbay 64gb 1000x
first test out of the box, cold camera, just after formatting inside the camera (fat32)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2qst1xv.jpg)
Recap of write speeds in test:
97.5
80.3
105.1
87.0
108.4
100.6
119.7
119.7
I did the test with Live View OFF
I just have recorded one clip after the test (1920x1080 25fps RAW), it showed a recording speed of 91mb/s.
Hey, why do you measure/test in playback mode?
The difference hurts, but u better be realistic about it :)
Quote from: jose_ugs on November 07, 2013, 02:55:02 PM
Hey, why do you measure/test in playback mode?
The difference hurts, but u better be realistic about it :)
What mode should I use?
Thanks!
Movie, switch to Live view after you turn on your cam. Then open up the ML menu and launch the test
I have 4 KB 64GB which work great. Used them both for 1DC 4K and ML Raw. Just ordered 4 new ones. Havnt benchmarked them, but will try that to see how they perform in theory.
So, it took a while but all my problems were sorted with Komputerbay. I received the replacements a couple days ago and was able to test them on the 5D3.
All four 64gb 1000x cards worked perfectly, and were able to get 2000+ frames at 1920x1280px raw resolution. If I ever have to buy cards again, they're my choice. :)
Hi everybody!! I buy a komputerbay 1000x 64gb, i hace a máximum writte speed of 91mbs in the 7d, is that ok?? Continuos raw for 1728x1156, buy i dont know why, i cant change this setting for higher resolution, is for the card??
Thanks a lot!!
Anyone know what the read/write speeds are for this card?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/extreme-pro-64gb-compactflash-cf-memory-card/1614323.p?id=1219057246591&skuId=1614323&st=cf%20card&cp=1&lp=1
Just asking because I keep seeing everyone talk about 90mbs.....and I'm curious if better write speeds are available with these new breed of CF cards at are 160mbs?
Quote from: javyelow on November 21, 2013, 12:52:39 PM
Hi everybody!! I buy a komputerbay 1000x 64gb, i hace a máximum writte speed of 91mbs in the 7d, is that ok?? Continuos raw for 1728x1156, buy i dont know why, i cant change this setting for higher resolution, is for the card??
Thanks a lot!!
I think you can´t get more resolution in a 7D without enable Crop Mode.
Those are my Test results ?
I am not sure if this is good or bad results? SHould i send back the CF card for exchange or its ok to keep this card ??
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xmoh4ifw95xyhh6/GTpycTseHP#/
Hi all.
Just got a new Mk III and loaded ML last night. I have a Sandisk Extreme Pro 64GB CF Card 160MB/s, 1066x
and I have RAW 1080p recording perfectly without dropped frames. Seems to record at 93Mb/s very well.
Hi Guys, sorry for this as it's probably been asked a million times....
what is an acceptable speed for the Komputerbay 64gb to write? by this i mean what speed should the benchmark show before i send it back for another..?
Currently my car writes at
90
90
90
82
76
72
61
18
is there any speed difference between sandisk extreme pro 160 16-32-64 gb?
And like the same transcend.
choosing between transcend 32 1000x and sandisk 160 16gb.
Regarding Transcend 64GB 1000x.
I will return mine, because I think it is very unstable in its performance. It's like it is fast only at certain areas on the card, like if its only fast first time you write data on it, then it gets slow. I don't know if this is correlated but my card is very slow the first 2 GB (only 300 frames before framedrop) then it records continuously for about 10 min.
If I benchmark the card i get very various results - but at the moment only between 35-80MB/s write speed.
The store will have the card replaced for another of their brands if I wish. I am Thinking of adding some money and go for a Sandisk 100mb/s (according to test data that card is above 83mb/s write, and so sufficient for 1856x844 RAW recording on my 5Dmkii).
Hi guys,
I just installed ML on my 7d, I have 64gb Komputerbay card. I ran the test in ML and it showed write speed around 50 megabytes /sec which horrified me but when I shoot raw (live view on) in 1728x972 it says continuous recording ok and the speed is around 73 mb some times, other around 68mb. So how is such a difference between actual shooting and test in ML possible? I guess I'll have to return the card but just want to make sure I am not doing something the wrong way? Thanks!
Running card benchmark will create a file on your card. Look for BENCHx.PPM (x=0,1,2, ...).
Unload all modules, turn off global draw and give it another run. Upload latest file and link it if you want us to take a look.
lexar 800x 64gb
70mb/s in crystaldisc
66mb/s in movie mode with GD on, small hacks on
can record 1920x818/25 continuous, 1920x1080/25 for 8secs
..im saving to buy some good cards :)
I changed my Transcend 64GB 1000x to a Sandisk 128GB 100MB/s 667x. The Sandisk performed better with continuous recording @1856x842 2.20:1 with sound. Decided to change the Sandisk to a 1067x Sandisk Extreme Pro 150MB/s to get highest performance possible on the 5D2.
I made benchmarks of the all the cards, even the ones i returned. If anyone has some collection of ppm-files feel free to add these: http://snk.to/f-cdul6p3u (http://snk.to/f-cdul6p3u)
Transcend 1000x 64GB - the first faulty card I had (maybe its not representative for Transcend)
Sandisk 128GB 100MB/s 667x - my first exchange, turned out to be a bit slow for highest setting on my 5D2
Sandisk Extreme Pro 64GB 150MB/s 1067x - Rock solid with very stable rates regardless of buffer settings etc.
OK so here's what ML test says for my Komputerbay 64gb 1000x (all modules turned off, along with global draw). Live view was on.
(http://i.imgur.com/aFZgvqn.png)
it seems I got the short stick and will be returning it to amazon :) however, when recording raw in 1728x972 it never drops frames and speed varies between 65 and 73. With camera temperature rising speed slows down, but I'm not sure if this is caused by the camera or the card.
// You need to use an image host that provides a direct image link. Audionut.
Looks like somethings wrong with the url. Write speeds are:
51,7
50,8
55
54
55,4
55,8
60.3
60,5
quite below the promised speed indeed...
Very, very old build!
Download latest nightly and try again in playback mode.
Thanks a lot, Walter! As you can see from this, the results were quite good this time (latest nightly build, modules and global draw OFF, playback mode) :
(http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1BD7pS0OJbNQtSpPeBpToOZh8_thumb.jpg) (http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1BD7pS0OJbNQtSpPeBpToOZh8)
However, I then turned everything ON and the result is quite different (and by far the worst):
(http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1u72CatjlaYJhIiRoHxRO1Y2fhu540_thumb.jpg) (http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1u72CatjlaYJhIiRoHxRO1Y2fhu540)
after that I tried shooting raw at 1728x972 with Global draw and modules on and it could shoot for just a couple of seconds before stopping automatically, displaying 1 dropped frame message. How can this be explained? With the old build I never had dropped frames for minutes of shooting? Is it the card or is it the build?
Sandisk Extreme Pro 64GB 160MB/s (1067x)
(http://www.pixentral.com/pics/101t33Q4AHbaFXUIhGD6xjiABd8ypq1.png)
87.1, 86.9, 86.9, 81.2, 78.9, 75.0, 69.2, 23.8
Sandisk Extreme Pro 128GB 100MB/s (667x)
(http://www.pixentral.com/pics/1p8P52W2GI45mYleiABi1YdBqucCl.png)
76.9, 77.2, 70.4, 63.5, 65.9, 57.1, 54.4, 21.4
Transcend 64GB 1000x - Not very supported if you ask me
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59.1, 61.2, 63.9, (?), 46.6, 53.1, 52.5, 14.0
Hello everyone!
Recently I bought KomputerBay 128GB 1066x CF and don't know if it's ok or broken...
Is this benchmark good or bad?
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59705033/bench01.jpg)
Quote from: Sapphiron on May 05, 2014, 03:06:58 PM
Is this benchmark good or bad?
I would say it looks very good. If you record some raw with the debug on you can see a buffer graph. Look if it is stable or very volatile. Try record a couple of times to the card, format it, and see if the speed is changing. If not I think you made a very good purchase. Is it 5Dmk3
? edit: (can be seen in the pic). It would be nice to see how fast the Sandisk 160MB/s is on a 5Dmk3)
Quote from: Sapphiron on May 05, 2014, 03:06:58 PM
Hello everyone!
Recently I bought KomputerBay 128GB 1066x CF and don't know if it's ok or broken...
Is this benchmark good or bad?
When GLOBAL DRAW is OFF you should get 115-120MB/s Write speed in playback, which would be in line with benches from KB and my own results.
Quote from: poromaa on May 05, 2014, 09:46:40 PM
It would be nice to see how fast the Sandisk 160MB/s is on a 5Dmk3)
Thx. Well, Sandisk CF Cards in Poland are insanelly expensive so i don't have any possibility to help...
After recording about 40gigs of RAW and formating card is still above 100mb/s at this first lines of benchmark.
Quote from: KMikhail on May 05, 2014, 10:32:54 PM
When GLOBAL DRAW is OFF you should get 115-120MB/s Write speed in playback, which would be in line with benches from KB and my own results.
Well... 112-115mb/s with GD off.
Little advice for me please. What to buy:
Lexar Professional 32GB 1066x Speed 160MB/s or SanDisk Extreme Pro CompactFlash 32 GB, 160 MB/s?
thx
For 7D?
Komputerbay 1066x 256gb are also a great option. Especially for the mkIII. ☺
I used a Sandisk Extreme Pro 32GB 160MB/s UDMA 7 for RAW recording on a 5D Mark III and it appears that 24fps @ 1080p is the fastest I can record without dropping frames.
I would like to record 1080p with 30fps - which card can handle that and still be reliable?
Some responses here mention that the Komputerbay 1066X cards are not very stable.
Is Lexar's 1066x Professional CF the fastest and most reliable out there at the moment?
Thanks in advance.
Frame dropping with recorded file size (summarized) < 4 GByte or above?
Quote from: walter_schulz on December 04, 2014, 11:15:21 AM
Frame dropping with recorded file size (summarized) < 4 GByte or above?
Walter, was this directed at me?
If so, my file sizes have always been below 2 GB. I get frame drops within 5-20 seconds roughly.
yes Walter for 7D! :) thx!
hi i want to buy the 1000x card Wise CF 64GB Memory Card (CF -1000x/150MB/s is abt 8500 is it work for raw recording or not
I don't understand your question here?
Long time reader, previous 70D owner, current 5DIII owner.
Just wanted to throw this out there. I bought one of the ProMaster 1000X CF cards and was getting around 60-70Mb write speeds. I was anxious to get something and this was all they had at my local shop in north Texas. @ $200 with that type of speed, I said F that and returned it. Just an FYI for anyone wanting to try that brand. And I suppose that others may be faster than what I received, but there is obviously other/cheaper options available. Currently waiting on a 1066X KB card.
I Recommend Toshiba exceria 1000x CF, I have two 128gb cards.
I can Record continuous on 50D normal raw 60mb/s +-
in crop mode 80mb/s +-
(http://imgur.com/HSOJICh)
http://imgur.com/HSOJICh
I have a Toshiba 64GB EXCERIA 1000x CF card and just bought the 128gb version of the same model. I've had the 64gb model for a while and has worked flawlessly but the newly acquired 128gb card is not recognized by my 7D every time I try install magiclantern with it. 128gb CF cards not doable with magic lantern with my 7D? What am I doing wrong? Please help. Thanks.
No problems with 128 GB cards here or ever reported.
Format card in cam, copy extracted nightly build content to card and redo installation.
If your problem persists:
Your error description is not very precise. Can you record the install session? Quality don't matter that much.
And check your card with h2testw (Windows) or f3/f3GUI (macOS).