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Magic Lantern Releases => Camera-specific discussion => Topic started by: nikfreak on January 15, 2015, 12:22:15 AM

Title: Canon 70D (Beta-4a / 26th Oct)
Post by: nikfreak on January 15, 2015, 12:22:15 AM
Provide a test report about functionality (#post_testreporting)
Changelog (#post_changelog)
What's not working (#post_notworking)
Removing / Uninstall (#post_removing)
Credits (#post_credits)

Read this before installing:

Installation Instructions:

Removing Magic Lantern / Uninstalling
Source Code:
https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/branch/70D_merge_fw112

Gotta Questions?
Do a forum search first.... Let's try to keep on topic. Don't spam my inbox  :P

Bug Reporting (fill in OK / Not OK {e.g. screen flickering or camera crashed while taking a shoot or ........}:
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html
Don't report bugs on the official issue tracker. We can only do so after being rest assured we got a stable release and the necessary source code changes are merged in officially.
Keep in mind: We need to list bugs in a readable and provable way.


What's working:
What's not working:
Check also Changelog history below for all details and disabled features...
Changelog (noteworthy ones only):
26th Oct 16: Beta-4a
23rd Apr 16: Beta-3c
8th Mar 16: Beta-3b
22th Dec 15: Beta-3
26th Nov 15: Beta-2b
15th Nov 15: Beta-2
22th Aug 15: Beta-1
15th Aug 15: Alpha-7b "ICEMAN"
Build feels pretty solid to me. No requests for new features please. Only bug reports!
Download Alpha-7b "ICEMAN" (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9Mu66yg5QzRfjdBaTM5OTBNSEFha3RiT0YyTlBxdHVxTUcwdUlEMHZXd1NfLXJaR01NeG8) (re-added as per request (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg153791#msg153791)) but keep in mind I only want the thread discussions to focus on the latest release
8th Aug 15: Alpha-7a2
6th Aug 15: Alpha-7a
13th Jul 15: Alpha6b
31st May 15: Alpha6
23rd Apr 15: Alpha5b
21st Apr 15: Alpha5
14th Mar 15: Alpha4b
10th Mar 15: Alpha4
11th Feb 15: Alpha3
28th Jan 15: Alpha2
19th Jan 15: Alpha1
15th Jan 15: Alpha0
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Audionut on January 15, 2015, 01:05:13 AM
Lets keep this thread on topic please.  Magic Lantern for the 70D.

Anything related to raw video should go in this section (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=49.0).
Raw Video Postprocessing (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=54.0).
Hardware and Accessories (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=40.0) for cards, card speeds, what card should I buy, what card is fastest, what card helps me lose weight, monitors for raw recording, dollys, you get the picture.

If it's not directly related to the 70D port, post it somewhere else.  nikfreak has done excellent work learning about ML and making the development progress to port ML to the 70D, he doesn't need to navigate through pages of offtopic banter to continue his efforts.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: gsanchez922 on January 15, 2015, 11:23:02 AM
Hi guy Just to see if I understand. If my cam is not compatible, I'll get a black screen or blank whatever... in this  case i have to use Eoscard utility and my cam will work again normally  or will be compatible  with Alpha ML?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: walter_schulz on January 15, 2015, 11:28:13 AM
Format the card using a cardreader and wait for things to become compatible.
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If you couldn't install the firmware (black screen / forced to pull out battery to get cam working....) it means you got an unqualified cam (see Intro section above) and you have to wait. Don't panic your device will get supported asap (No ETA. It's done when it's done...). Don't blame me for not being able to install ML onto your 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 15, 2015, 01:37:33 PM
Updated the first post....
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: JonOfSparta on January 15, 2015, 02:04:14 PM
How can we "Try" it ?

Do you have a download link for the  (Alpha / Pre-Alpha) for the70D ?

Thank you
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 15, 2015, 02:20:16 PM
Either you are kidding me or you didn't read the first post.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: snakec on January 15, 2015, 02:24:25 PM
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Installation Instructions:

    Download Alpha0 release (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRNEVFX3JuXzN5LTA/view?usp=sharing)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Torios on January 15, 2015, 02:35:57 PM
I made everything in accuracy as you told. Occurred nothing. The camera simply rebooted and works in the usual mode. The inscription of "Enabled Bootdisk" didn't appear. What not so I do?
I need to wait for the new version of release?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: walter_schulz on January 15, 2015, 02:53:52 PM
Read installation instructions once again and redo installation.
If this doesn't solve the problem
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If you couldn't install the firmware because your camera doesn't show "Enabled bootdisk" it means you got an unqualified cam (see Intro section above) and you have to wait until your fimrware revision gets supported (No asking for ETA's). Stop here and don't follow the next steps. Don't spam the thread about your disappointment of not being able to install ML or asking when it will be possible. I am not interested in that, sorry. I am interested only in functionality tests / bug reports.
applies.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on January 15, 2015, 02:57:33 PM
Hi nikfreak,

Mega kudos goes out to you and the ML team!!

Quick question:
You mentioned on January 7th that "You won't be able to remove the bootflag again."
Is that still the case with the Alpha build?

Cheers!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 15, 2015, 03:03:35 PM
Johnny, the menu override in Canon menu while selecting the option to format card works. You can switch with "Q" button to format card and retain ML on camera which I tested and that's working. There's also the option to remove ML but I didn't test it. Should work but I cannot guarantuee that it works because I didn't try. I will test it myself later and give an answer on that. Till then I don't recommend you to use that option.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: JonOfSparta on January 15, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
The Notepad scared the crap out of me , I don't want to risk my camera but I do really need RAW for my 70D for my College work.
I hope you understand.

Anyway , when will this be "safe" to install to our camera or at-least works properly.

It says a lot of possible errors that it can damage the camera itself.

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DolanAJ on January 15, 2015, 03:56:43 PM
After several attempts I do not have a currently supported 70D but once support is added I will be testing! If you need any details from my camera to assist with building support let me know and will pull what I can.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: snakec on January 15, 2015, 04:02:15 PM
how to differentiate the two version 1.1.1
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: walter_schulz on January 15, 2015, 04:37:35 PM
One is working. Other one is not. Not yet.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 15, 2015, 04:38:59 PM
Johnny, the menu override in Canon menu while selecting the option to format card works. You can switch with "Q" button to format card and retain ML on camera which I tested and that's working. There's also the option to remove ML but I didn't test it. Should work but I cannot guarantuee that it works because I didn't try. I will test it myself later and give an answer on that. Till then I don't recommend you to use that option.

Yes, removing ML this way does work.  It does leave an ML folder that only contains a config file but removes everything else, it no longer runs after doing this.

how to differentiate the two version 1.1.1

The only way to know for sure is to try the installation.  If you can enabled bootdisk, you have the new revision.  If not, the old one.  For those who have the old FW, I wonder if it's possible for one of us with the newer version to rip our FW and share it?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Canon-Ball on January 15, 2015, 04:44:45 PM
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Yes, removing ML this way does work. It does leave an ML folder that only contains a config file but removes everything else, it no longer runs after doing this.

The left over ML folder, where is its location? Camera file system or SD-Card?

To be more precise: Will anybody be able to see that ML had been installed?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: JonOfSparta on January 15, 2015, 04:44:52 PM
I encountered

o Early stop (10)

Those recoreded videos cannot be found and ate more than 1gb of my Memory, when I installed magic lantern it  was more than 7gb of my 8gb SD Card

After those bugged recorded raw videos , I tried to find it on the Card via PC , the SD card is empty and cannot find those file that consumed about 1gb of my space
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 15, 2015, 04:57:29 PM
DV I sent a tech. request to Canon with concern that there was a 70D firmware release made about a year ago.
I wanted to know what bugs were fixed, and how I could download it.  I also pointed out that
having two firmware versions of ver 1.1.1, is poor software configuration management SCM practice.

I suggest you do the same, as the more that complain - hopefully they will provide an update.
My fear is that they did this covertly because they changed/upgraded h/w and didn't want to notify 1st gen. owners.

Actually Canon is ISO 9001 certified. It is a major violation of that standard to have improper SCM practice.
If their ISO auditors find out, possibly they will be forced to remedy it (however that's a longer process).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 15, 2015, 07:14:43 PM
The left over ML folder, where is its location? Camera file system or SD-Card?

To be more precise: Will anybody be able to see that ML had been installed?

It's on the card.  When you plug the card into a computer, you'll see 3 folders: DCIM, MISC, and ML.

DV I sent a tech. request to Canon with concern that there was a 70D firmware release made about a year ago.
I wanted to know what bugs were fixed, and how I could download it.  I also pointed out that
having two firmware versions of ver 1.1.1, is poor software configuration management SCM practice.

I suggest you do the same, as the more that complain - hopefully they will provide an update.
My fear is that they did this covertly because they changed/upgraded h/w and didn't want to notify 1st gen. owners.

Actually Canon is ISO 9001 certified. It is a major violation of that standard to have improper SCM practice.
If their ISO auditors find out, possibly they will be forced to remedy it (however that's a longer process).

Yeah that does sound pretty shady.  And not really legal.  If there was a HW change then the camera needs to have a different model number.  And I would guess it was indeed a HW change, otherwise why wouldn't they publicly release a 1.1.2 FW?  So I guess that kind of eliminates the idea of sharing the "new" 1.1.1 with everyone because if there's been a HW change that probably wont work so well.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Corto Maltese on January 15, 2015, 07:27:19 PM
Hi, new to the all ML stuff. Really want to try it out, seems amazing.really well done.

I have a silly question, if i install ML , latter on, will i be able to switch back to the old firmware of canon, or how does it work? It only displays ML when i put in the sd card with it?

Tks in advance, and keep up the good work
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 15, 2015, 07:30:02 PM
Corto, you may want to read Top of page -> User Guide -> FAQ.

@DigitalVeil + ShootMeAlready: Your suspicion only makes sense if Canon decided to never, never, never ever deliver a firmware update for 70D. Disagree?
EDIT: And if they found a way to prevent companies like Chipworks disassembling two cams down to semiconductor gate level.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 15, 2015, 07:34:06 PM
@DigitalVeil & ShootMeAlready -- agreed it does seem shady of Canon to pull a stint to us early 70D owners...

However, I'll definitely try installing the alpha sometime this afternoon after work. If I don't get the blank black screen then I'll be happy to report bugs.

If in fact it does show black screen -- then I'll just have to wait for the next release.

Special thanks to @Nikfreak & KUDOS to @A1ex and the rest of the ML crew!
Title: Takes a few minuets of a blank screen - Canon 70D
Post by: albertoxie on January 15, 2015, 07:53:51 PM
Guys, gold on getting this thing working, fair play to all involved. just to let you know it might be worth saying my camera went blank after firmware update....... first time it said there was a problem and the menu was a little screwed but a quick switch off fixes that up :) second time same thing blank screen but this time I waited & continued to read more of the forum & sure enough like MAGIC roughly about four - five minuets later BOOM!  up she came "boot disk enabled" & the smiley face. now to find eoscard for mac or install windows & get started card bootable.  anyone know off hand of an apple varient before I install windows? thanks and I hope this helps somebody.   ;D
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 15, 2015, 07:58:29 PM
Look for MacBoot.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: bigorna on January 15, 2015, 08:03:53 PM
Walter, I don't know, but is probably possible that Canon release a new fw that identifies the hw and updates based on that.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 15, 2015, 08:09:24 PM
You know Occam's razor?
I rest my case until Canon releases a firmware update for 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: bigorna on January 15, 2015, 08:20:55 PM
It's ok. We are talking about hypothesis anyway...
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Mr.Click on January 15, 2015, 08:22:56 PM
Hello, I´m new to the Forum, I tried the new Alpha today, it works well , thank you very much, well done  !

I didn´t try all Functions yet, one issue I noticed is that the Image Review Settings doesn´t work properly ( I loved the Quick Zoom on my Old 50D) I´m not sure, but it seems that Quick Zoom works while zooming out, but not while zooming in.


( please Excuse my English I do not speak it so often)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 15, 2015, 08:38:07 PM
Added to first post. Thanx for reporting @mr. Click  8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: k1w1 on January 15, 2015, 08:44:04 PM
Look for MacBoot.
http://www.zenoshrdlu.com/macboot/macboot.html
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Canniballissimo on January 15, 2015, 09:03:02 PM
I bought my 70D in December 2013. When I install the ML does not happen anything. Offer to update the firmware, click OK, and then after a couple of seconds, I am on the same screen with the settings of photo-shooting
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: pa0los on January 15, 2015, 09:27:01 PM
Hi guys
First of all thank you to all the developers porting ML to 70d. Great work!
I tried installing the alpha and it didn't work the first time, because I didn't understand the instruction correctly. Just a few notes to nilfreak's manual:
1. After you put the SD card with extracted ML files to your camera, you must switch the camera to photo-shooting mode and press INFO button. The display should present information like shooting mode, SD card space left, date and time, etc.
2. Then press menu and go through the normal firmware update procedure. Camera should reset.
3. At this point I didn't see anything on the display, because camera booted into shooting mode. I had to press "play" button - my photo on SD card showed up and after few seconds I could see the "Enabled bootdisk" message.

Right now I familiarize myself with the ML, must read some manuals on how to use some of the functionalities.
I tried already RAW recording: with 1280x720 my Sandisk Extreme card rated for 45MB/s couldn't stand more than a minute of recording.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: bigorna on January 15, 2015, 09:28:20 PM
The same as Cannibalissimo occurred with my 70D (no message and come back to info screen after a couple of seconds). Bought in March 2014. Not able to help for now...
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 15, 2015, 09:36:10 PM
Nikfreak, don't forget Bitrate Control and Dual ISO in the 'what's not working' section  ;D


Right now I familiarize myself with the ML, must read some manuals on how to use some of the functionalities.
I tried already RAW recording: with 1280x720 my Sandisk Extreme card rated for 45MB/s couldn't stand more than a minute of recording.


I'm guessing your card peaks at 45MB/s but at times dips below the required 36MB/s for 720p raw.  Speed ratings on SD cards are very snaky, you really can't trust them.  I bought an SD card rated for 90MB/s writes just to be sure, and so far I've never had any interruptions at 720p.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: senones on January 15, 2015, 09:37:01 PM
hi...
after downloading alpha0, i updated my firmware with the instruction above and voila my 70d have blank black screenn. first i thought my 70d is not supported on. but then with BLANK i take a picture and voilaaa i have my screen SHOWS ENABLE BOOTDISK :)
i dont know if this step could solve this uncompatible issues. and good luck
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: bigorna on January 15, 2015, 09:40:21 PM
Following paolos instructions, I had a different result. Now it rebooted. But after play, I could see my picture but didn't get the "enabled bootdisk" message. Is it possible that the message didn't show up because it was already enabled at my previous attempts?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 15, 2015, 10:05:14 PM
hi...
after downloading alpha0, i updated my firmware with the instruction above and voila my 70d have blank black screenn. first i thought my 70d is not supported on. but then with BLANK i take a picture and voilaaa i have my screen SHOWS ENABLE BOOTDISK :)
i dont know if this step could solve this uncompatible issues. and good luck

It's stated in first post. You need to have a pictire shot with your 70d before starting the firmware upgrade

!
I tried installing the alpha and it didn't work the first time, because I didn't understand the instruction correctly. Just a few notes to nilfreak's manual:
1. After you put the SD card with extracted ML files to your camera, you must switch the camera to photo-shooting mode and press INFO button. The display should present information like shooting mode, SD card space left, date and time, etc.

This is stated in first post, too

3. At this point I didn't see anything on the display, because camera booted into shooting mode. I had to press "play" button - my photo on SD card showed up and after few seconds I could see the "Enabled bootdisk" message.
Nice find although it should have done it automatically but others can try that, too.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Corto Maltese on January 15, 2015, 10:37:23 PM
well, sad face for me. nothing happend....
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: granan13 on January 15, 2015, 11:10:33 PM
All right so i installed ML on my 70D, thanks a lot for your work nikfreak, really, it's nice to see some people giving their time for the community.

Here's my return :

-Is it normal that The "Audio" and "Expo" do not appear in the menu ? Or maybe i missed something, it's my first use of ML.

- Focus Peaking : OK tried with different settings and it worked great.

- Intervalometer : NOT OK I tried to set it in photo mode, then when i go back to liveview, after 3sec, no picture is taken, and the different buttons do not respond, i need to turn the camera off/on.

- 3.0x bitrate : seems OK

- REC Key : OK

-HDR video : don't know how to activate it, asks for manual iso.

- Ghost picture : OK, the image flickers a little when you set the image you want to use, for 1sec and then it is ok.

- Strange thing : my 18-35 1,8 is detected as 61-138 on the left bottom of the screen. And even if i change the aperture value the only value on the screen is f/1.7


I'll do more tests this weekend, it's the only way i can help, I have no competences in coding.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 15, 2015, 11:13:20 PM
As for me with the 70D that I have with the OLD ICU FW -- no success as of yet even tried to manually switch to playback mode or even take a picture and switch to playback mode to get it working.

All good I'll be happy to wait for the updated alpha...Thanks again to everyone!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 15, 2015, 11:33:09 PM
-HDR video : don't know how to activate it, asks for manual iso.

Yeah I forgot about this one, happening with my build too.  Features that require manual ISO will claim that manual ISO is disabled even when it is set to manual.

Also, I reported that the flashing zebras were fixed but I was wrong.  They stop flashing when AF is disabled, enabling AF causes both zebras and spot meter to flash on and off.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: granan13 on January 15, 2015, 11:45:21 PM
Another strange thing :

shutter speed value shown by ML in video doesn't match with the value shown by the LCD screen on the top of camera :

ML shows 1/27 when camera says 1/30, then 1/32 for 1/40, 1/40 for 1/50, 1/50 for 1/60 etc... like if there was a gap of one stop between the two, is it normal ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on January 15, 2015, 11:54:11 PM
First off, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS NIKFREAK! I am a long time lurker, first time poster. I have been waiting so long for this release. Now that I've gotten that out of my system, time to state my case. First off, I too noticed that the audio tab was missing, would turning that off for RAW recording lower the necessary data rate? I am maxing at a continuous shooting of 756X1344 with a 60 mbps SD card (I know, it seems to really be maxing at around 40 mbps). Also, the frame rate is locked at 21.596 FPS, or am I reading that wrong? I'm new to magic lantern, but it seems to be the frame rate. Also, the ML menu exits out randomly, which is a bug to be expected. The list of specs, like the f stop and lens focus distance doesn't update effectively, the f-stop number never updates. Almost everything else works, though!
Overlays
-Zebras: OK
-Focus Peak: OK
-MagicZoom:NOT OK, doesn't work off of zoom button
-Cropmarks: OK
-Ghost Image: _OK_
-Spotmeter: _OK
-False Color: ____OK
-Histogram: ____OK
-Waveform: ____OK
-Vectorscope: ____OK, appears over magic zoom. I can just move magic zoom.
Movie
-BitRate: ____OK
-REC Key: ____OK
-Gradual Exposure: ____
-FPS Override: Not availbale with Alpha0 (would really like to see)
-HDR Video: ____
-Vignetting: ____OK
-Image Finetuning: ____OK
-Movie Tweaks: ____OK
Shoot
-Intervalometer: ____NOT OK. It sets off the write file light, but doesn't actually take any pictures during time interval. Have to restart camera to stop flashing light.
-Motion Detect: ____
-Shoot Preferences: ____
Included Modules
- Raw_rec: ____OK (Is there any way to disable audio for this? Or is it already not recording?)
- ettr: ____OK
- autoexpo: ____OK
- ....
Other issues:
Other than the super short recording time for RAW above 720, which probably isn't a ML issue, this is great! The main reasons I wanted it were for zebras and RAW, but I can live with compression and a denoiser.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on January 16, 2015, 01:10:03 AM
Another thing: the ram percentage constantly reads 0.0%
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 16, 2015, 03:20:39 AM
Another strange thing :

shutter speed value shown by ML in video doesn't match with the value shown by the LCD screen on the top of camera :

ML shows 1/27 when camera says 1/30, then 1/32 for 1/40, 1/40 for 1/50, 1/50 for 1/60 etc... like if there was a gap of one stop between the two, is it normal ?

Not normal, but it's a known bug
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: draco on January 16, 2015, 04:39:56 AM
Well shoot I can't load the firmware. It goes to the grey Canon "Firmware update program" screen with "Loading.." in the middle for 1 second then the screen turns black and quickly exits to the shooting info screen. I guess this means I have the older firmware. My 70D serial #06202xxx. I purchased the Camera Aug2014 from B&H.

I did Java and C programming 15 years ago so might try to learn more and help out. Maybe some of us can make a new thread and start work on the port for earlier firmware as Nitfreak and others are going to be busy enough.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: rotaryman on January 16, 2015, 04:58:04 AM
Thank you for the port. I seem to be one of the lucky ones who it works for. Easy instructions to follow, worked perfectly first shot.

I will go through the functions piece by piece, but by my first run through I did notice that the shutter speeds and ISO levels do not read correctly while in LiveView. Aperture during LiveView also does not update.

Just a few small things, once again great work - much appreciated!

More to come.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: TomJ on January 16, 2015, 06:07:58 AM
Loaded perfect, first try. So far, all's dandy. Never seem to have problems with ML though (whew...), the T3i and T4i pre-alpha just always worked like butter for me too. Perhaps my camera's see what I do to bricked cell phones when they react wrongly to bad code? Whatever. It keeps 'em in line...  :D

Will report back on tests.

Edit: Late model 70D (Nov 2013, second body), Kodak 1gb SD card (slow as dirt, found on floor of train in south India years ago). Prob meaningless since it loaded and worked like buttah for me.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: isi25 on January 16, 2015, 06:20:31 AM
Well shoot I can't load the firmware. It goes to the grey Canon "Firmware update program" screen with "Loading.." in the middle for 1 second then the screen turns black and quickly exits to the shooting info screen. I guess this means I have the older firmware. My 70D serial #062022010573. I purchased the Camera 8/12/2014 from B&H.

Guys, are you sure the two versions depends on dates or could it be something else? For example, a slightly different firmware version for (W)/(N) models or something like that ? I guess it's a newbie question but just in case xD
Just saying 'couse this guy bought his cam a month ago...

Also thnx nikfreak, a1ex and everyone involved on this. It's been a happy week finding out you guys are now developing the 70D version of ML. I've been waiting more than a year to read that! Lol.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: johnha on January 16, 2015, 07:04:49 AM
I've tried shooting at 3.0x bit rate and the resultant files are no larger than 1.0x bit rate. So I don't think the bit rate setting works currently. Could anyone else confirm?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Canon-Ball on January 16, 2015, 09:38:48 AM
Quote
Quote
Quote from: draco on Today at 04:39:56 AM
Well shoot I can't load the firmware. It goes to the grey Canon "Firmware update program" screen with "Loading.." in the middle for 1 second then the screen turns black and quickly exits to the shooting info screen. I guess this means I have the older firmware. My 70D serial #062022010573. I purchased the Camera 8/12/2014 from B&H.
Guys, are you sure the two versions depends on dates or could it be something else? For example, a slightly different firmware version for (W)/(N) models or something like that ? I guess it's a newbie question but just in case xD
Just saying 'couse this guy bought his cam a month ago...

Also thnx nikfreak, a1ex and everyone involved on this. It's been a happy week finding out you guys are now developing the 70D version of ML. I've been waiting more than a year to read that! Lol.

Might be an idea, but I'd guess his camera was just a kind of "slow seller". I bought mine also in December and my serial starts with 13302600xxxx. The outer packing states June 2014...
However, I didn't find the time to test ML Alpha for the 70D, but I'm quite happy that it is available. Tnx!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on January 16, 2015, 12:46:28 PM
@johnha, yeah, I noticed the same exact thing.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 16, 2015, 12:51:32 PM
@johnha, yeah, I noticed the same exact thing.

I updated the first post. Keep up reporting all bugs you find....
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: pa0los on January 16, 2015, 01:20:58 PM
Today I crashed my camera while playing with RAW recording. The LCD displayed Err 70 when I tried to turn it on.
For a moment I thought that the camera is bricked, but then I formatted the SD card on PC, removed the battery for a minute and it seems to be working again (without ML for now).
I found some crash log files on the SD card. Here are some of them (i removed the build info since we only have this alpha ver):
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ASSERT: !IS_ERROR( TryPostEvent( this->hTaskClass, this, EV_VD_INTERRUPT_EVF, NULL, 0 ) ) at ./Evf/EvfState.c:428, task ?
lv:1 mode:0 Free Memory  : 190K + 1855K
ASSERT: !IS_ERROR( TryPostEvent( this->hTaskClass, this, EV_VD_GMT, NULL, 0 ) ) at ./Gmt/GmtState.c:4845, task ?
lv:0 mode:0 Free Memory  : 191K + 1848K
ASSERT: !IS_ERROR( TryPostEvent( this->hTaskClass, this, EV_READOUTDONE_INTERRUPT_EVF, NULL, 0 ) ) at ./Evf/EvfState.c:374, task ?
lv:0 mode:0 Free Memory  : 191K + 1848K
ASSERT: !IS_ERROR( TryPostEvent( this->hTaskClass, this, EV_RESET_PSAVE_INTERRUPT_EVF, NULL, 0 ) ) at ./Evf/EvfState.c:401, task ?
lv:0 mode:0 Free Memory  : 191K + 1848K
ASSERT: !IS_ERROR( TryPostEvent( this->hTaskClass, this, EV_SETPARAM_INTERRUPT_EVF, NULL, 0 ) ) at ./Evf/EvfState.c:358, task ?
lv:0 mode:0
The last thing I remember doing is trying to activate the Magic Zoom. I had problems activating it with the zoom (+) button and tried some other options.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: fever003 on January 16, 2015, 01:41:35 PM
Hi,

I can confirm mine does not work after following the steps.

Possible reason is mine is the old 70D, bought in December 2013 with serial number of 048#########.

The camera says Firmware update program, loading... and immediately reboots with Sensor Cleaning and nothing happens. No activity on the red LED too.

Will wait for an update :)

Thanks alot nikfreak for your effort
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: snakec on January 16, 2015, 03:14:40 PM
 Overlays
-Zebras: OK
-Focus Peak: OK
-MagicZoom:NOT OK
-Cropmarks: OK
-Ghost Image:
-Spotmeter:
-False Color: ____OK
-Histogram: ____OK
-Waveform: ____OK
-Vectorscope:
Movie
-BitRate: ____OK
-REC Key: ____OK
-Gradual Exposure:
-FPS Override: Not availbale with Alpha0
-HDR Video:
-Vignetting: ____OK
-Image Finetuning: ____OK
-Movie Tweaks: ____OK
Shoot
-Intervalometer: ____NOT OK.
-Motion Detect: OK
-Shoot Preferences: ____
Included Modules
- Raw_rec: ____OK
- ettr: ____
- autoexpo: ____OK
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: snakec on January 16, 2015, 03:16:03 PM
RAW MAX 16/9 : 1280/720

Where is " Expo " and " Audio" ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: FotoGraphr on January 16, 2015, 04:05:33 PM
Fantastic!
Working here on a new serial number 144xxx

No Dual ISO (or I can't find it) and can also confirm intervalometer not working.

Just quickly installed it, so will do a i depth test Asap and post detailed results and findings.

Amazing work, very excited for the first bug fix release!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: pa0los on January 16, 2015, 04:23:57 PM
I'm working with Sigma 17-50 f/2.8. Some more feedback on what's not working correctly:
1. Focal length isn't correct (it shows 53 @17mm, 71 @50mm)
2. Aperture value isn't updated (stays @ 2.8)
3. Underexposure zebras sometimes stay on the edge of screen (even when there is a light area beneath)
4. Neither of the Magic Zoom focus confirm functions work (tested with Magic Zoom always on, because can't be activated by key)
Also I bought today Sandisk Extreme Pro 95MB/s card and still can't get a constant 720p RAW recording. It stops after ~50sec.
Tried running the card R/W speed benchmark and it gave me:
Write:42.3MB/s @ 16MB buffer
Read:43.7MB/s
Is there something I'm doing wrong?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 16, 2015, 04:37:32 PM
About recording time: Format card with ExFAT filesystem and try again. You have to make card bootable  again (EOScard/Macboot). Copy extracted nightly contents to card, startup cam and report results.
HTH.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: beloks on January 16, 2015, 04:47:52 PM
Purchased in December 2013, the version with Wi-Fi, serial number 04212100XXXX
ML does not get in the photo mode, video mode immediately falls in Err-80
sadness..
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 16, 2015, 05:10:20 PM
3: Check fileman with files > 4 GByte, please. Requires ExFAT, of course.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: pa0los on January 16, 2015, 05:32:01 PM
Format card with ExFAT filesystem and try again.
Tried that, I don't think there's any difference. Still max I got is ~50sec (2GB raw file).
Maybe there's a specific "allocation unit size" setting I should use? I tried 1024kB
I experimented with the default settings and with the minimal settings (almost everything turned off on the overlay page).
Ofcourse i have the "allow dropped frames" option off.
Hopeless...
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 16, 2015, 05:49:28 PM
Take a test with RAW, too. MLV seems to have some overhead and it looks like we're dancing on the edge with 720p. Just took a short test with my 650D. MLV breaks between 1 and 2 minutes, RAW runs until free space is gone.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: pa0los on January 16, 2015, 05:52:24 PM
RAW is the only option we've got so far (and that's what I've tested).
nikfreak said that MLV is not working yet.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 16, 2015, 06:06:36 PM
The answer from Canon on 70D firmware versions.

1. No public firmware downloads available from Canon for the 70D.

2. Firmware differ by region, so yes there is multiple firmware release(s), not sure how many. 
"Different "base/factory" firmwares do not necessarily denote there is a bug fix or an enhancement, but rather can related to cameras sold in different countries"
They did not state unequivocally state that no bug fixes have gone in these versions, such weasel wording suggests yes some fixes went in or the person who replied has no certain knowledge.

3. There is another version of the 70D not sold in N.America that does not have wifi, it has a different firmware.

So the first question, should be what region did you buy from.  Perhaps the fir is crapping out based on regional differences.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ARsiega on January 16, 2015, 06:22:37 PM
snip
So the first question, should be what region did you buy from.  Perhaps the fir is crapping out based on regional differences.
Hmm, curios! That's what also came to mind when reading the post below.

Hi,
I can confirm mine does not work after following the steps.
Possible reason is mine is the old 70D, bought in December 2013 with serial number of 048#########.
The camera says Firmware update program, loading... and immediately reboots with Sensor Cleaning and nothing happens. No activity on the red LED too.
Will wait for an update :)
Thanks alot nikfreak for your effort
Mine exactly does that; also bought last Dec. 2013, also w/ firmware starting 048. We're almost the same, are you somewhere in Asia, Southeast perhaps?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: bigorna on January 16, 2015, 06:35:49 PM
Thinking about what SMAlready just wrote, I realized that WiFi have different regulations in different countries (number of channels, for example), and that can be a possible reason for different versions.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: pierre2fun on January 16, 2015, 07:00:38 PM
068xxxx does not work too
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 16, 2015, 07:05:59 PM
I better quote myself from first post:
Quote
I can't support two revisions at the same time but take a look at the source. Everything is well documented. Once this build got somewhat stable it's about days to support all revisions.

We got everything needed to support all 70D-Wifi models. So why worry about fw revisions? You only have to accept that I won't support all revisions in this early stage of porting. Once we are somewhat stable all 70D's will get ML. It's a matter of sitting some hours in a row in front off my computer to get it done. Really, take a look at the source, especiall the stubs and consts, then you will get it...
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on January 16, 2015, 07:30:30 PM
I took a look at some of the source, and noticed the problem @SML123 is showing with the raw file registration. That's just from borrowing the source code, all the aperture and ISO data is screwed up. I'm trying to learn and write/correct at the same time.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: janoschsimon on January 16, 2015, 07:33:15 PM
no love yet for my 70D :-) serial 033021.....

anyway keep up the great work guys :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on January 16, 2015, 07:37:22 PM

Well shoot I can't load the firmware. It goes to the grey Canon "Firmware update program" screen with "Loading.." in the middle for 1 second then the screen turns black and quickly exits to the shooting info screen. I guess this means I have the older firmware. My 70D serial #062022010573. I purchased the Camera 8/12/2014 from B&H.

I did Java and C programming 15 years ago so might try to learn more and help out. Maybe some of us can make a new thread and start work on the port for earlier firmware as Nitfreak and others are going to be busy enough.

Mine did the same thing, I tried it a second time, half pressed the shutter button, and it worked. Maybe try this?
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: rotaryman on January 16, 2015, 07:59:44 PM
@ShootMeAlready: Interesting. My 70D was purchase in Canada in around September 2014. ML install worked perfectly by following instructions.

Those asking about RAW video: I haven't personally tried over 720p RAW but recorded 720p RAW for 2:30 with no breaking on a SanDisk Extreme 64GB 45 MB/s SD card.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: janoschsimon on January 16, 2015, 08:11:21 PM
Mine did the same thing, I tried it a second time, half pressed the shutter button, and it worked. Maybe try this?

when did you press the shutter button? :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: gsanchez922 on January 16, 2015, 08:41:29 PM
Quick question. When you  shot in raw, Do you have audio? If the answer  is  yes Can I do 1 of 2 things
1- Disabled the audio because I gonna use the camara for music video  or I not gonna use the camara audio enough
2- for audio synchronization: Can I use a really low quality  audio because I  have a  external record  and pro mic for my production.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 16, 2015, 08:46:37 PM
yes you can. alpha0 doesn't record audio
beta / final will have options to disable it (mlv)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on January 16, 2015, 09:17:20 PM
@janoshsimon, I pressed it when the screen was black (out of frustration). The camera then went to show the picture I had loaded and then I got the welcome message!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: janoschsimon on January 16, 2015, 09:23:59 PM
@guitarshredder1 hm dont work for me MEH :D so waiting GRR :D
btw did anybody test hdmi out? :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D/HDR
Post by: haasje57 on January 16, 2015, 09:26:50 PM
Will that again show up on the 70D like I was used to have on the 550d?
Sorry if that was already asked and thanks a lot for this firmware.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Berrob on January 17, 2015, 12:11:55 AM
I have also had no luck. Bought in Germany October 2014 - Serial #053022****

One strange thing I have noted is that if I try sometimes to press the shutter button just after the firmware loaded page disappears but before the sensor clean screen I can get the camera to lock up and produce an error 80. This seems to stick around until I remove the ML directory.
This is not bricking the camera - Seems to be reversable

Not sure if this is helpful or not.

Once again, thank you Nikfreak for making any of this possible! I would love to help out where ever I can!
Cheers,
Rob
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 17, 2015, 12:28:45 AM
To anyone who is running this build on their 70D:

What does your camera temperature (on the ML overlay) get up to?  My 70D gets up to about 80C after ~10 minutes of usage (in either LiveView or Movie mode) every single time I use it.  Even when not recording.  I'm wondering if ML is causing my cam to get so warm (doubt it) or if it just always gets that warm, and whether that's common for 70Ds or just a problem with mine.  I'm betting it would overheat during an outdoor shoot in the summer...
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 17, 2015, 12:40:50 AM
I got mine in US feb 2014, #0521...  so its looking more and more like lower serial numbers (less than 0620...?) than any region.  As I noted some other US folks have ML running.

Also mine says made in Japan, which I suspect is were they are all made.  So the only region difference I know of is PAL 25/50 fps vs N.A. 30/60 fps option.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Glassed on January 17, 2015, 12:56:13 AM
Hello to all the ML community !

this is my first post, so first and foremost  massive congratulations (and thanks!) to the team that makes this possible.

My first attempt to install the alpha0 release in my 70D was not succesful, unless I am doing something wrong.

I did the following:

1) format card in camera, take a picture, turn off camera, load the SD in card reader, and paste the files from the alpha0 release in sd card root directory.
2) Turn on camera, press info until info screen is shown, then go to menu and select firmware update.
3) The camera starts firmware update, but the screen goes black after a second ( does not look like it actually does something like updating a firmware, its just too fast)
4) the 70d does NOT go automatically to playback mode, yet it operates normally like if I didnt update or touch the firmware. pressed playback, took pictures, but does NOT show " bootdisk enable ", even waiting for a few minutes with screen on playback mode.

note: no lens was attached during the process, and the camera was set to M mode.

Do I have the wrong revision of the 1.1.1 firmware ?

If thats not the case and I am doing something wrong, please let me know, I will help in the testing in any way I can, because this is awesome.  :D

EDIT: Serial Nº : 052022000011 , 70D (N) Model , Purchased Feb 2014.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: fever003 on January 17, 2015, 02:16:52 AM
ARSiege

Yes i am from southeast asia  :P

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on January 17, 2015, 02:26:19 AM

To anyone who is running this build on their 70D:

What does your camera temperature (on the ML overlay) get up to?  My 70D gets up to about 80C after ~10 minutes of usage (in either LiveView or Movie mode) every single time I use it.  Even when not recording.  I'm wondering if ML is causing my cam to get so warm (doubt it) or if it just always gets that warm, and whether that's common for 70Ds or just a problem with mine.  I'm betting it would overheat during an outdoor shoot in the summer...

I'm getting the same temp, but it doesn't feel any warmer than usual, especially around the SD card slot, which usually gets hot. It stays warm (cooler than usual) even when recording 1600p 2.35:1 Raw for 3 minutes.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: gsanchez922 on January 17, 2015, 02:29:17 AM
Hello Everyone I install the Alpha and my serial is 082024xxxxx I bought in Jun of 2014 and I bought in B&H so Serial and date not care now the problem maybe is te region, I'm from USA maybe some people has the japan version
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: fever003 on January 17, 2015, 02:33:23 AM
Hello Everyone I install the Alpha and my serial is 082024xxxxx I bought in Jun of 2014 and I bought in B&H so Serial and date not care now the problem maybe is te region, I'm from USA maybe some people has the japan version

Yes mine says made in Japan
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 17, 2015, 02:45:38 AM
I'm getting the same temp, but it doesn't feel any warmer than usual, especially around the SD card slot, which usually gets hot. It stays warm (cooler than usual) even when recording 1600p 2.35:1 Raw for 3 minutes.

Hmm... well at least I'm not the only one.  The camera would get quite warm in my hands even before ML and I suppose it's not any warmer than it already was.  I guess these things just run hot?

4) the 70d does NOT go automatically to playback mode, yet it operates normally like if I didnt update or touch the firmware. pressed playback, took pictures, but does NOT show " bootdisk enable ", even waiting for a few minutes with screen on playback mode.

Did you have a picture on the card before running the firmware update?  That might be the problem.  When I do the installation it doesn't automatically take me to playback either, I had to press the play button manually and wait a couple seconds.

Also - sorry this is a little OT - I noticed in Canon's menu that my lens has its own firmware, and there's an option to update the lens FW.  It's the new 24mm f/2.8 STM pancake.  I had no idea a lens could even have firmware!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: rotaryman on January 17, 2015, 03:06:44 AM
Quote from: Glassed
note: no lens was attached during the process, and the camera was set to M mode.

Might want to read over the instructions again. Need to have a picture before the firmware update and you can't take a picture with no lens  :P

@DigitalVeil: The temperature on my camera also increases throughout the time it's on, but I can't say it's warm to the touch as yet. I haven't really used it for more than 10-15 minutes but those are my findings.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on January 17, 2015, 04:16:31 AM
Yes, removing ML this way does work.  It does leave an ML folder that only contains a config file but removes everything else, it no longer runs after doing this.

Johnny, the menu override in Canon menu while selecting the option to format card works. You can switch with "Q" button to format card and retain ML on camera which I tested and that's working. There's also the option to remove ML but I didn't test it. Should work but I cannot guarantuee that it works because I didn't try. I will test it myself later and give an answer on that. Till then I don't recommend you to use that option.

Hi nikfreak,

Mega kudos goes out to you and the ML team!!

Quick question:
You mentioned on January 7th that "You won't be able to remove the bootflag again."
Is that still the case with the Alpha build?

Cheers!

Hi guys, thanks for the quick reply!  I was referring to removing the BootFlag on the camera, not the ML files from the SD card.
Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: vfero on January 17, 2015, 04:57:14 AM
Hello,

Thanks a lot for your great work!
Before trying this new ML, i'd like to be sure there's still an Advanced Bracket ( as i only make HDR photos )


Regards,
Vince
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 17, 2015, 06:26:58 AM
      Digi'Veil

   Are you sure about that 80ºC ~ That would be 176ºF & you would not be able to hold it If So ~ I have Run My70D in Mov'Mode for up to @Least 8Hrs stopping only a few seconds @ the 30MinMarks & whenever it needs a Batt' or Card Change & it does get VerySlightlyWarm in the Batt' & Card Area with the Card getting the Warmest ~ But Even the Cards never get anything more than just Warm ~

                                                                                                                                                             ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 17, 2015, 06:37:52 AM
      Digi'Veil

   Are you sure about that 80ºC ~ That would be 176ºF & you would not be able to hold it If So ~ I have Run My70D in Mov'Mode for up to @Least 8Hrs stopping only a few seconds @ the 30MinMarks & whenever it needs a Batt' or Card Change & it does get VerySlightlyWarm in the Batt' & Card Area with the Card getting the Warmest ~ But Even the Cards never get anything more than just Warm ~

                                                                                                                                                             ORR ~ DeanB

It's just the temperature ML is reporting, which could be wrong for all we know. And it's the internal temperature of the camera, the exterior shell will always be cooler. I think I did read in the 70D manual that Canon actual recommends not holding the camera in your hands while shooting video as it can get hot. Idk, I guess that's just the way it is.

Hello,

Thanks a lot for your great work!
Before trying this new ML, i'd like to be sure there's still an Advanced Bracket ( as i only make HDR photos )


Regards,
Vince
Unfortunately Dual ISO is completely non-functional at this point.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: vfero on January 17, 2015, 06:49:08 AM
DigitalVeil

I'm just talking about the ability to make from 3 to 11 brackets  :D
Title: Canon 70D
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 17, 2015, 09:17:11 AM
Just tried it for the 3rd time to no avail.

So I am in fact one of the unlucky ones w the old ICU atm.

Purchased: Dec 2013 (USA)
Serial#: 0520 (in case you guys were wondering)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: fever003 on January 17, 2015, 09:26:23 AM
Just tried it for the 3rd time to no avail.

So I am in fact one of the unlucky ones w the old ICU atm.

Purchased: Dec 2013
Serial#: 05202100#### (in case you guys were wondering)

Yeah same here. Purchased in December 2013, serial number 048######. Made in Japan.

Not complaining that it doesn't work, just mentioning here in case someone wants to know if theirs are not working for the same reason
Title: Canon 70D
Post by: erno on January 17, 2015, 01:12:11 PM
No luck yet.
Does not load: Serial 04302xxx..
Purchased:Finland, december 2013.


Thanks Nikfreak, Alex, Nanomad and all the supporters. Nikfreak, lmk if you visit Helsinki someday. Ill buy you a pint (or pints) of Finnish Karhu-Beer. Sauna is also available [emoji1][emoji779]️
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Dns on January 17, 2015, 02:22:51 PM
Just want to salute Alex,Nikfreak,Nomaed and other who contributed for this great achivement. I loaded the dottune module just for the test and It stopped during the tuning operation and gives the user canceled the operation error.i knew it's not gonna work but why not give a chance when my cam is ML powered? [emoji1] 
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on January 17, 2015, 03:55:51 PM
Confirmed this morning that the FPS (set to 24 on the canon menu) is locked at 21.576 and deviates +/- .002 FPS during recording. I'm sure there is an issue with the algorithm that regulates frame rate, @Nikfreak, I looked through Raw_Rec.c and couldn't find the part that actually controls frame rate/how data is recorded to the SD card. Is it in another place?

EDIT: I found fps.c, am looking through it now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Elanus on January 17, 2015, 04:03:26 PM
Not working on my 70D, bought on Feb 2014 in Colombia probably imported from US, s/n 03202xxxxxxx.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dmilligan on January 17, 2015, 04:04:36 PM
I'd like to help but don't know where to start, i'm an admin not a dev
If you look, you will find a plethora of information on this forum.
Getting Started With Development (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=991.0)
Getting a development machine up and running and developing. (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9517.0)
Mercurial Tips (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9524.0)
Using TortoiseHG (GUI) - Working with branches - Creating Pull Request (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10774.0)
Tutorial: finding stubs (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12177.0)
Firmware Dumping and Loading into IDA (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6785.0)

I don't want to get too OT, so feel free to open a new thread about any specific issues you're having. I'll also be glad to tell you my workflow, but it's too OT for this thread.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: timovd on January 17, 2015, 04:27:11 PM
Any news about audio meters and headphone monitoring? These ML-features are the main thing for me to install ML.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 17, 2015, 05:06:45 PM
Good news. Full Resolution Silent Pictures are almost done. Shot some test DNG's and it looks great.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 17, 2015, 05:31:30 PM
@nikfreak -- Great news regarding FRSP for the 70D!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: dmilligan on January 17, 2015, 05:46:20 PM
you need to reset custom functions too
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Makadamia on January 17, 2015, 05:54:15 PM
Not able to install it, Dez.  2013, Ser# 043021xxx, bought in Germany.

But: Thanks nikfreak - you made my day, so I'm a happy camper and wait for following releases.

Happy to test later.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: pierre2fun on January 17, 2015, 06:02:09 PM
Nikfreak thanks for those good news !!!!

SML 123: This is an alpha so we all know the risks (see Nikfreak, and ML warnings). Why using reference 60D ???
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 17, 2015, 06:05:36 PM
SML 123: Why using reference 60D ???

Because 60D works like 70D here: No user accessible clock battery. And therefore all techniques involving removal of said battery won't do.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Mr.Click on January 17, 2015, 06:09:16 PM
Hm, i don´t have this problems on my 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: oli650d on January 17, 2015, 06:23:37 PM
Fontional well for me buying 178056xxxxxx France 2015  :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 17, 2015, 06:46:43 PM
Just to avoid everyone from posting a serial number, here's the trend:
Does not load 0620 ... and lower   (only post if does not load and 1st four digits are higher)
Does load  1000... and higher     (only post if does load and 1st four digits are lower)

So far its the 1st digit is the divider ... interesting candidate (perhaps some binary number will be the make/break point).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 17, 2015, 07:13:23 PM
(and not the crew who can't follow instructions and are surprised that canon stuff is made in japan! with firmwares!....but anyway, if you don't want to take a picture when you need to reset the metering, mount the card and write/flush the buffers ie straight after the firmware-sensor clean...don't...same as if you want to burn out your camera early keep running full res raw on alpha code, that'll work)

Look, you really need to watch yourself with the talking down to others.  Almost every post you've made so far has had some sort of condescending tone to it.  It's not at all constructive or useful, and to be frank, you're a forum newcomer with a total of 5 posts.  You haven't exactly earned the right to speak to others that way here, if there was such a thing.  Good for you that you are an admin elsewhere, but you aren't one here.

Your method of installing this build worked for you personally, but that's actually not what nikfreak's original instructions specified.  They simply said to have at least 1 picture on the card before running the FW update, there's nothing about snapping 1 picture right after the FW update (look again if you don't believe me).  Glad to hear that worked for you, but as you can see in this thread, not all 70Ds are the same.

Confirmed this morning that the FPS (set to 24 on the canon menu) is locked at 21.576 and deviates +/- .002 FPS during recording. I'm sure there is an issue with the algorithm that regulates frame rate, @Nikfreak, I looked through Raw_Rec.c and couldn't find the part that actually controls frame rate/how data is recorded to the SD card. Is it in another place?

EDIT: I found fps.c, am looking through it now.

Yeah you wont find anything that controls fps in raw_rec.c.  I've given a1ex the FPS timer values and he's already working on a fix.  However, your camera is probably still recording at the FPS value set in the Canon menu despite what ML says.  Are you getting the 21.576 from the ML overlay or from the actual file information?  When I go to 1080p24 mode, ML EVF says 21.576 but my raw footage still comes out to 23.984fps.  Haven't tested any h264 though.  I am running a slightly earlier build that includes FPS control but I leave it off when not looking for timer values, so it shouldn't be any different from Alpha0.

EDIT: Maybe not?  Just tested raw 60fps and got the 53.976 specified in the ML EVF.  So maybe FPS is screwy even when FPS Override is disabled.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: CommanderHT on January 17, 2015, 07:16:02 PM
To ShootMeAlready:
My 70D has serial no. 06302200XXX and does not load (bought Jan 2014 in Germany).
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 17, 2015, 07:37:28 PM
   Yet another NoGo/JustForInfo post ~ Bought in USA LateDec2013  S#  05202******* ~

I even tried it with AllCam'Functions Reset to Fac'Defaults InTheHopesThat that might somehow help but NoGo ~

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Wiggierip on January 17, 2015, 07:39:30 PM
Just to avoid everyone from posting a serial number, here's the trend:
Does not load 0620 ... and lower   (only post if does not load and 1st four digits are higher)
Does load  1000... and higher     (only post if does load and 1st four digits are lower)
(...)

Pierre (http://"http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg137960#msg137960") has a higher non working serial:

Quote from: pierre2fun
068xxxx does not work too

Gsanchez (http://"http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg137999#msg137999") has a lower working serial:

Quote from: gsanchez922
Hello Everyone I install the Alpha and my serial is 082024xxxxx I bought in Jun of 2014 and I bought in B&H so Serial and date not care now the problem maybe is te region, I'm from USA maybe some people has the japan version
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 17, 2015, 07:46:25 PM
@digitalveil: regarding FPS -> Alpha0 differs from the pre-alpha builds... In Alpha0 70D is completely excluded from source code. We will get it right thanks to your help with listing the needed values  :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 17, 2015, 07:48:48 PM
Tested raw in 720p60 mode and did indeed get a video height of 434p, which means squashed raw will need to be stretched by ~1.66x.  I was kind of hoping it would be 1.4x like my 700D, but on the bright side 1.66x does allow us to shoot 1856px wide in up to a 2.20:1 aspect at 24fps continuously.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: sichel94 on January 17, 2015, 09:25:51 PM
Ser. No. 0830
Installation worked fine.

1. Overlays
    -Zebras: OK
    -Focus Peak: OK
    -MagicZoom: mostly OK
    -Cropmarks: OK
    -Ghost Image: mostly OK
    -Spotmeter: OK
    -False Color: OK
    -Histogram: OK
    -Waveform: OK
    -Vectorscope: OK

2. Movie
    -BitRate: NOT OK
    -REC Key: OK
    -HDR Video: NOT OK
    -Vignetting: OK
    -Image Finetuning: OK
    -Movie Tweaks: OK

3. Shoot
    -Intervalometer: NOT OK
    -Motion Detect: NOT OK
    -Shoot Preferences: NOT OK

4. Included Modules
    - Raw_rec: OK

5. Other issues:
    got thrown out of ML-menu time after time.
    RAW rec not very respnsive but working OK overall


Very satisfied with the mod. Thanks to all developers involved in this!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Vu on January 17, 2015, 09:53:14 PM
Mine is with serial 098024xxx.... Bought it in Vietnam 2014 and it works
I have never used ML before but have seen/read about this wonderful "plugin" and this is extremely good work. Thanks alot!

Have a nice day every1 :)

Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 17, 2015, 11:11:40 PM
Here's my best guess, on the serial number.  Its using unsigned binary & its 40 bits (to support serial of 9999-9999-9999).
The problem occurs when any serial number 68719476735 or less. 
Possibly not allocated enough memory to read it and it crashes when it reads junk bits.  It looks like the MSB must be 0001xxxx to load currently. 
Probably the serial number is being read into either too short a word or signed int type, whichever
when the leading 4 bits should be zero for serial number 68719476735 or less by some word/type/sign error they are not and its crashing the loader (i.e find invalid serial number).
That's my best guess, so it looks to me like Nik has to play with size of word (40 bits unsigned looks to be what's needed).

So lets see if anyone with a serial number higher than 6871947635 is crashing the loader.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: draco on January 17, 2015, 11:27:26 PM
I have also had no luck. Bought in Germany October 2014 - Serial #053022****

One strange thing I have noted is that if I try sometimes to press the shutter button just after the firmware loaded page disappears but before the sensor clean screen I can get the camera to lock up and produce an error 80. This seems to stick around until I remove the ML directory.
This is not bricking the camera - Seems to be reversable

Not sure if this is helpful or not.

Once again, thank you Nikfreak for making any of this possible! I would love to help out where ever I can!
Cheers,
Rob
I just got the same err80 and froze. Scared the crap out of me for a second but pulling battery fixed it. As I said earlier in post #47 I bought Aug2014 from B&H in US 0620xxx model 70D(W)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: onepx on January 18, 2015, 11:38:28 AM
Good days! Before everything translator excuses for the translation since I it am translating from Spanish to English with google. Yesterday install the ML and I install myself correctly I have been looking at the menus and good. But I have seen a thing that me worries and is the warming. I begin with 23C and it has come to me to 69C in less than 5 minutes and puts in red. Is this normal? Thank you for answering. Regards from Spain.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: JonOfSparta on January 18, 2015, 01:09:17 PM
New to Magic Lantern

I cant record with my 70D 
it says Error early stopped (10)
I played with the settings and it turned to error (11)
and now is  Error (14) where my screen turns all black and have to pull out the battery.


Is my SD card too slow ? or It's the camera itself
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 18, 2015, 01:15:28 PM
You're giving no info about your settings and your card. Therefore the answer is:
Maybe.

Delete contents of ML\Settings and retry.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: oli650d on January 18, 2015, 02:24:47 PM


Peut on désactiver ML
Pourquoi quant on insère un carte sd sans ML l'écran et noir ?
Bravo pour votre travail
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 18, 2015, 02:31:54 PM
Google translate messed this one up.
Please use native language, too.

===
Write French. please.

Écrire en français, s'il vous plaît.
===

EDIT: Think I got it ...
- Format card using a cardreader
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: kekorr on January 18, 2015, 02:59:15 PM
I tried putting but nothing, I have the version 1.1.1 and follow the steps when I update firmware does nothing, it does not come out of enablebootdisk.  048010000***
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: Zippo on January 18, 2015, 03:49:21 PM
Thanks ML team.
On my one 70D  almost everything working.On the second, which was buyed earlier ML does not work.
I am very happy with the new capabilities. RAW video is excellent, very sharply, and opportunities in post processing are what I've been waiting :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: GARoss on January 18, 2015, 07:30:44 PM
I was an early adapter & purchased my 70D in 09/2013. I tried install but nothing, I have the version 1.1.1 and follow the steps when I update firmware does nothing. I was hoping to see *enablebootdisk* but no luck.  Serial # 02202*******. Glad to hear some are working & maybe all will be soon! Hats off to Alex, Nikfreak, Nomaed!
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: chrbhm on January 19, 2015, 08:44:00 AM
Installation fine with s/n #093024007031
As I am a newbie to ML some limited results:

Overlays
-Zebras: ____ OK
-Focus Peak: ____ OK
-MagicZoom: ____
-Cropmarks: ____
-Ghost Image: ____
-Spotmeter: ____
-False Color: ____
-Histogram: ____
-Waveform: ____
-Vectorscope: ____
Movie
-BitRate: ____
-REC Key: ____
-Gradual Exposure: ____
-FPS Override: Not availbale with Alpha0
-HDR Video: ____
-Vignetting: ____
-Image Finetuning: ____
-Movie Tweaks: ____
Shoot
-Intervalometer: ____ not OK
-Motion Detect: ____ seemed to be OK
-Shoot Preferences: ____
Included Modules
- Raw_rec: ____
- ettr: ____
- autoexpo: ____
- ....
Other issues:
After some seconds of being inactive (=staring at the screen) ML Menu closes/kicks me out
_______________________________________
_______________________________________
_______________________________________


Looking forward to the next build and hoping for the Focus menu soon.
Regards
Christian
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: true on January 19, 2015, 10:26:53 AM
No luck yet.  :'(
Does not load: Serial 023021002889
Purchased:Germany, September 2013.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: timovd on January 19, 2015, 10:55:57 AM
Bought mine in December 2014 and successfully installed ML alpha0, but nothings seems to work.
I tried Zebras and Cropmarks, but it's not showed on the screen while recording or during live view. Am I doing something wrong? I tried two different Sandisk SD-cards >class 10.

Edit: both are exFAT formatted btw.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: alexd on January 19, 2015, 03:23:49 PM
70d bought in April 2014
SN: 083024...

Overlays
-Zebras: OK
-Focus Peak: OK
-MagicZoom: Not OK - works if "Always On" is selected
-Cropmarks: OK
-Ghost Image: OK
-Spotmeter: OK
-False Color: OK
-Histogram: OK
-Waveform: OK
-Vectorscope: OK
Movie
-BitRate: Not OK
-REC Key: OK
-Gradual Exposure: Not OK
-FPS Override: Not availbale with Alpha0
-HDR Video: Not OK
-Vignetting: OK, but had no Lens to really test it
-Image Finetuning: Not OK
-Movie Tweaks: OK
Shoot
-Intervalometer: Not OK

Included Modules
- Raw_rec: OK - only tested 720p with Sandisk Extreme 95MB/s continuous shooting was possible

Other issues:
Shutter-Speed display has an offset
1/30   1/40
1/40   1/50
1/50   1/60
1/60   1/80
1/80   1/100
1/100  1/125
1/125  1/160
1/160  1/215
1/200  1/250
1/250  1/320
1/320  1/430
1/400  1/500
1/500  1/640
1/650  1/850
1/800  1/1000
1/1000 1/1250

Focal-Length is also offset:
Canon 24-70 4L
24mm   147mm
35mm   134mm
50mm   124mm
70mm   117mm
Full Macro   102mm

Sigma 17-35mm
17mm   142mm
20mm   142mm
24mm   105mm
28mm   75mm
35mm   75mm

Canon 70-200 4L
70mm   88mm
100mm  88mm
135mm  88mm
200mm  88mm

Aperture Display is stuck at lowest (full open) aperture of the lens.

In Photo-Mode Shutter Speed is not displayed.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 19, 2015, 05:56:10 PM
Just to keep the serial # posts down.
If your serial number is 6871947635 or less, the alpha build wont load.
If your serial number is higher it should load.

That's what the trend has been, and that's what the binary points to. Post if your load result & serial number disagree with above.

There could be a freaky out-liner or so, but that that would be based on freak luck in random unallocated bits.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: rotaryman on January 19, 2015, 07:25:24 PM
Here is another issue (that's not so much of a big deal) with the LiveView ML displays. Just went to charge the batteries from my battery grip and noticed:

- battery grip with 2 batteries the LiveView display reads battery level correctly
- if you only have one battery in your battery grip: battery level in Battery Grip slot 1 reads correctly on LiveView display
- if you have only one battery in your battery grip: battery level in Battery Grip slot 2 reads 100% at all times, regardless of battery level

Battery reads fine on Canon displays just faulty on LiveView in ML. Not a big deal, just thought I might point it out.

Once again thanks for the great work, enjoying it thoroughly.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: ansius on January 19, 2015, 07:34:57 PM
the same is with every other battery grip (and camera, like 7D the same story, only one battery is shown) that supports reading both batteries (some alternative ones does not), it reads only one of them. As much I understood, it requires some revere engineering to find where the other info is hidden.
Title: Re: Canon 70D
Post by: nikfreak on January 19, 2015, 08:05:25 PM
Update: Alpha1 available. No new modules inbuilt

I will update the first post as soon as possible.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRZ1EzWFN4bXFqNjQ/view?usp=sharing

Plz check all reported bugs. Test Intervalometer, Trap Focus, and watch out for glitches, bugs or whatever seems wrong. Additionally do "Debug -> Burn-in-Test -> Quick-Test (15min)" and report you findings.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Furbster on January 19, 2015, 08:27:58 PM

Plz check all reported bugs. Test Intervalometer, Trap Focus, and watch out for glitches, bugs or whatever seems wrong. Additionally do "Debug -> Burn-in-Test -> Quick-Test (15min)" and report you findings.

Burn-in test works made 5 mov's and created 2 .bin files
Intervalometer works tried 60 pics @ 5 sec interval
Trap focus works
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Mr.Click on January 19, 2015, 10:00:01 PM
Thank you very much, good work !  :)
I tryed the Quick Zoom , it still doesn´t  work properly. Zoom to 100% whith one single press doesn´t work too .
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: chrbhm on January 19, 2015, 11:54:03 PM
Guys,

alpha1 delivers Trap Focus and it works fine !!

Only this one feature makes it worth to install.

Rgds
Christian
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: true on January 19, 2015, 11:55:12 PM
The new Alpha 1 version can not install again on "older models", maybe you should first make the compatible version for all models and then make small improvements?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: bigorna on January 20, 2015, 12:03:09 AM
true, that's not going to happen. If you are interested, please read the first post to understand why. Let's leave people that can help with current version do their work. I believe it's the best way that we, who don't have a working 70D with this ML version to help.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: deusex1 on January 20, 2015, 01:36:18 AM
Hey guys, can anyone confirm, if the dual-pixel focus thingy works when shooting RAW?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Felipe on January 20, 2015, 03:03:57 AM
People, Does this raw has Pink dots ?, I know there are ways to solve that, but does this has ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 20, 2015, 03:22:27 AM
Hey guys, can anyone confirm, if the dual-pixel focus thingy works when shooting RAW?

Yup, dual-pixel AF works when shooting raw.  Currently no AF box, but it still focuses where you touch.

People, Does this raw has Pink dots ?, I know there are ways to solve that, but does this has ?

No dots, clean image.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: markpa on January 20, 2015, 05:48:05 AM
Is there rack focus in alpha 1?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: theollybanks on January 20, 2015, 12:20:20 PM
I think true has a point but it would make far more sense to get a stable version on known working revisions and take that stable firmware over to the mysteriously different devices at a later date, either way canon's shoddy version control has made life unmitigatedly more difficult than it ought to be!  >:(
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 20, 2015, 04:05:26 PM
The serial number preventing loading is just one more bug - a priority 1 bug no doubt.
As for concerns about mass bricking if its fixed, well it doesn't look like the build when loaded bricks so its a not an issue.
Let's just hope Nik can fix the serial number loading, to bring more testers on board.
Cheers Nik.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: nikfreak on January 20, 2015, 04:57:37 PM
 Just read the 1st post, accept what is written there and plz stop posting any serial numbers. They don't matter.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: sepers on January 20, 2015, 05:53:51 PM
Hi there,

I believe the 'audio menu' (audio monitoring option via USB) isn't part of this Alpha-release?
I was wondering when I can expect it....  ;D

Greetings,

Matthijs
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: kaidian on January 20, 2015, 08:52:07 PM
Thanks for the Alpha1, well done so far.

Installation OK but noticed processor temperature rising steadily while interfacing with ML menus (not recording video). I switched off camera as it became hot at 75 degrees. I then installed a card without ML after cool down and worked with the camera for a while without the same temp rise as before. Anyone noticing the same issue?

Functions are OK as per last full list posted but will continue checking.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 20, 2015, 09:02:11 PM
About those temperature displayed. Please shoot a standard RAW/JPEG when temperature is up 70 or higher. Check temperature entry in RAW/JPEG and report.
Background: There are some cams having a gap between both numbers. Seems to be established there are different sensors used by ML and Canon (written to EXIF).
See http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9673.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: kaidian on January 20, 2015, 09:56:17 PM
Thanks Walter

My post was less to do with the temperature readout and its accuracy but more to do with the fact the the camera was getting hotter in my hand just going through ML menus for a 5 minute period, no images or video were shot. This does not happen with a non ML card while working with the camera for a 5 minute period. Its worth getting feedback on this from others who are testing the Alpha1.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Kauf on January 20, 2015, 10:33:22 PM
Building off of Walter's response (and his included link), since the temp is captured by Canon in the EXIF, you can also use this to determine if the camera is getting hotter with ML than without. You can use shooting video to get the camera heated up (if you think necessary) and press the shutter to capture a still with the temp in its EXIF. As Walter points out, ML developers have used this to aid ML's calculation of temp, but it can also be used to do rough comparisons between ML and non-ML if you suspect a significant difference.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Abe on January 21, 2015, 02:16:03 PM
Newbie here, only tested very few things.

    Overlays
    -Zebras: ____OK
    -Focus Peak: ____OK
    -MagicZoom: ____OK (Works with "Always ON" only and does not show the green bars even if in focus.)
    -Cropmarks: ____OK
    -Ghost Image: ____
    -Spotmeter: ____OK
    -False Color: ____OK
    -Histogram: ____OK
    -Waveform: ____OK
    -Vectorscope: ____OK
    Movie
    -BitRate: ____
    -REC Key: ____
    -Gradual Exposure: ____NOT OK
    -FPS Override: Not availbale with Alpha0
    -HDR Video: ____NOT OK
    -Vignetting: ____
    -Image Finetuning: ____
    -Movie Tweaks: ____OK
    Shoot
    -Intervalometer: ____
    -Motion Detect: ____
    -Shoot Preferences: ____
    Included Modules
    - Raw_rec: ____OK
    - ettr: ____
    - autoexpo: ____
    - ....
    Other issues:
    _______________

Mainly Used the Raw_rec codec shooting in 1728*736 (aspect 2.35:1). The 720p shoots continuous, and I got around 17-20sec with the 1728*736.

Huge thanks for all your efforts guys.
   
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: saeed2vfx on January 21, 2015, 08:23:48 PM
Hi,

I can confirm mine does not work after following the steps.

Possible reason is mine is the old 70D, bought in December 2013 with serial number of 028#########.

The camera says Firmware update program, loading... and immediately reboots with Sensor Cleaning and nothing happens. No activity on the red LED too.

Will wait for an update :)

Thanks alot nikfreak for your effort

(copy / paste & change serial)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: carlos787 on January 21, 2015, 11:21:26 PM
Saludos,
Great work nikfreak!!!! 70d bought in Dec 2014 and works like a charm. Been using 1280x720 for a few secs only but the raw image in post is cake for color grading. Looking forward to the next update.
Keep up the good workssss. 8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Felipe on January 22, 2015, 12:46:07 AM
Go 1280 x 544 continous
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: fever003 on January 22, 2015, 02:30:31 AM
Hi,

I can confirm mine does not work after following the steps.

Possible reason is mine is the old 70D, bought in December 2013 with serial number of 028#########.

The camera says Firmware update program, loading... and immediately reboots with Sensor Cleaning and nothing happens. No activity on the red LED too.

Will wait for an update :)

Thanks alot nikfreak for your effort

(copy / paste & change serial)

Whutt?? U copied my post, haha. Well, looks like we are on the same page.  Will wait for the team to update, no pressure on nik and the team :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: saeed2vfx on January 22, 2015, 09:31:51 AM
Quote
Whutt?? U copied my post, haha. Well, looks like we are on the same page.  Will wait for the team to update, no pressure on nik and the team :)

ha ha, yeah. because my english is very low.

sorry fever003 :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 22, 2015, 06:53:52 PM
(copy / paste & change serial)

        Darn saeed2vfx ~ I was hoping this was a way you had found to solve the "No ML on older 70Ds" issue ~  {:-)
Title: I can't update ML... T_ T
Post by: 70D jonathan on January 22, 2015, 06:57:46 PM
Hi..
I follow your step but put the firmware update button(update "yes") suddenly my 70D cleaning sensor... -_ -;; and go back..

 :-[ ..  my 70D number 038XXXXXXXXX.. , use transcend 16Gb X600 Sdcard(format fat32 in Imac)
I don't know my fault.. T,, T
please help me.. want use ML..
I wait your answer

Thank you! ^^
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: erno on January 22, 2015, 07:06:19 PM
Hi..
I follow your step but put the firmware update button(update "yes") suddenly my 70D cleaning sensor... -_ -;; and go back..

 :-[ ..  my 70D number 038XXXXXXXXX.. , use transcend 16Gb X600 Sdcard(format fat32 in Imac)
I don't know my fault.. T,, T
please help me.. want use ML..
I wait your answer

Thank you! ^^

Read the description! 1st post.
Title: RAW video on 70D - compatible cards
Post by: jhon_wane on January 22, 2015, 07:37:42 PM
Hello guys and thanks a lot for your work. You made a lot of us happy  :).
I want to prepare for RAW video and considering which card I need to buy in order to support 70D raw video at the max resolution and FPS that would be possible with ML.
Please help me choose between:
1. SDHC/SDXC?
2. 32GB? 64GB? MORE?
3  Needed writing speed for best results at max available quality and fps resolution?
4. SANDISK/LEXAR/OTHER?

Again - Thanks a lot guys for your work. Much appreciated.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Corto Maltese on January 22, 2015, 07:40:27 PM
any ideia for when will the other version of ml70d be avaible, for the 70d's that can't use this alpha ml?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Frarike on January 22, 2015, 07:42:01 PM
Hello guys and thanks a lot for your work. You made a lot of us happy  :).
I want to prepare for RAW video and considering which card I need to buy in order to support 70D raw video at the max resolution and FPS that would be possible with ML.
Please help me choose between:
1. SDHC/SDXC?
2. 32GB? 64GB? MORE?
3  Needed writing speed for best results at max available quality and fps resolution?
4. SANDISK/LEXAR/OTHER?

Again - Thanks a lot guys for your work. Much appreciated.



Wrong thread to ask this, search the forum.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 22, 2015, 07:44:56 PM
any ideia for when will the other version of ml70d be avaible, for the 70d's that can't use this alpha ml?

FAQ -> Last section: Troll Questions -> Last one
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: bsauce42 on January 22, 2015, 08:04:39 PM
I'm guessing once the Alpha build is stable.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: starcat on January 22, 2015, 09:10:03 PM
Hello guys!

Overlays
-Zebras: ОК
-Focus Peak: Not OK
-MagicZoom: Not OK
-Cropmarks: ОК
-Ghost Image: ОК
-Spotmeter: ОК
-False Color: ОК
-Histogram: ОК
-Waveform: ОК
-Vectorscope: ОК
Movie
-BitRate: Not OK
-REC Key: ОК
-Gradual Exposure: Not OK
-FPS Override: Not availbale with Alpha0
-HDR Video: Not OK
-Vignetting: ОК
-Image Finetuning: Not OK
-Movie Tweaks: ОК
Shoot
-Intervalometer: Not OK
-Motion Detect: Not OK
-Shoot Preferences: Not OK
Included Modules
- Raw_rec: ОК
- ettr: ____
- autoexpo: Not OK 

Today I see the following limitations:
1. The representation of FPS, shutter speed,  aperture and ISO on the screen are wrong.
2.  Magiclantern Menu resets always - it turns back to Live View.

Raw_rec works good. I shot with 24 fps (screen resolution - 1600x800) for 30 seconds. With the screen resolution 1344x672 my 70D works with no time limitations.  My memory card is SanDisk Extreme Pro 95 MB/s 64 GB. My test-shot is here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SNlwapEyKw

Thanks a lot for your work!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: PanzerMamba on January 22, 2015, 10:52:26 PM
Wow, really nice looking shoot, especially outodoor views.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 23, 2015, 12:04:03 AM
Thanks for sharing @starcat!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 23, 2015, 04:19:43 AM
Raw_rec works good. I shot with 24 fps (screen resolution - 1600x800) for 30 seconds. With the screen resolution 1344x672 my 70D works with no time limitations.  My memory card is SanDisk Extreme Pro 95 MB/s 64 GB. My test-shot is here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SNlwapEyKw

Thanks a lot for your work!

Nice video! The raw footage really puts in perspective just how soft the h264 footage is.  Can't stand that softness.  I also found it very interesting how switching to raw almost completely eliminated the color aliasing in the 3rd shot.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: CorentinF on January 23, 2015, 03:18:21 PM
Hi everyone !

I currently has a 70D and I want to buy a new SD card for making raw video. Just wondering the debit needed (in Mo/s) for shooting at 1600x900 24fps ? Thank you guys !

Another question (valid on every ML version), if you success to record raw video and change the fps rate, the video size, the debit in H264. Isn't possible to take 1080p 60fps or 1440p video ? The captor, buffer, card speed and even processor are enough to do it no ?

Good luck with the developement ! Can't wait a stable version :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: walter_schulz on January 23, 2015, 03:24:46 PM
Data rate required (Continuous in RAW/MLV mode) = Vertical pixel/resolution * horizontal resolution * frame rate * 14 / 8
1600 * 900 * 24 * 14 / 8 = 60,480,000 Bytes/s -> 57,7 MByte/s
Maximum bandwidth for SD-card interface in 70D: About 41 MByte/s.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 23, 2015, 07:43:11 PM

Another question (valid on every ML version), if you success to record raw video and change the fps rate, the video size, the debit in H264. Isn't possible to take 1080p 60fps or 1440p video ? The captor, buffer, card speed and even processor are enough to do it no ?

No.  http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/faq#troll_questions

There's a hardware limitation and a long technical explanation that isn't worth typing out.  Trust us, it's been tried and it's just not possible.

Please read the FAQ and guides and use the forum search tool before posting questions, you'd be surprised how often a question has already been answered elsewhere.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: jhon_wane on January 23, 2015, 09:03:19 PM
From my own research and from answers in this post,
I understand that 45 Mb/s card (such as sundisk extreme) will be enough for the 70D raw video.
m i right?
I have tried looking in other posts and I'm still not sure.
Some guys told that 95Mb/s is better, but its beyond camera capabilities so i don't understand how.

I'm really think that nikfreak and all others ML developers should get percentages from Sandisk selling of SD cards.
Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: offshore on January 23, 2015, 11:10:16 PM
on my 70D don't work!  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ hope in a better future!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: draco on January 23, 2015, 11:11:26 PM
If the card has a minimum write speed over 45 MB/s it should be fine problem is card specs are normally overrated
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: ukmdb on January 24, 2015, 12:00:46 AM
Whoo Hoo!! I am a lucky one.
Just one obvious point I would like to point out. Well 2 actually.

1. I used a after market battery that is not recorgnised in camera. ML would not give me the OK.
I swapped it out for an official battery (guess as long as it is readable by canon any battery would be ok) I then got the smily face and all good to go.

2. The point about making sure your in the info screen was also important for me. I couldn't get the OK. So I thought which info screen? (pressing inf button gives several optional screens) It had to be on the screen where you can change WB and Colour temp. etc.
For some reason as soon as I tried again while on this screen all worked.

Now for testing..
If anyone got any specific requests I am happy to test and answer. My main requirement is continuous recording. So that is the first thing I shall be trying (how long can i record before it stops)

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: ubermood on January 24, 2015, 10:27:07 AM
I second that.. For me (as first-time user of ML), it was a little bit unclear which infoscreen was meant, since there are several to choose from.

Apart from that, ML works OK for me. Since it's my first time using ML I'm not sure how all functions should work, so I don't feel comfortable reporting back which are working correctly and not..

My personal overall impression is that it feels a little bit flumsy and clumpsy. Like having Frankenstein living in my camera. Magic zoom for example flickers when pressning shutter halfway to focus, or when selecting any other size of the zoombox but "medium" distorts the aspect ratio of the zoomed in image.. Flickering here and there.. In liveliew my f/value does not update when changed.. I can't see which shutterspeed I have etc etc.

As I mentioned, I'm not sure it should be like this or if it's just because it's still alpha(1).. so I'll sit here quietely and just watch the progress. 8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: PanzerMamba on January 24, 2015, 03:17:00 PM
Could someone share for download raw RAW file directly from sd card, recorded by ML alpha and canon 70D. I would be greatful ;) And I suppose not only me  8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Twentytwo on January 24, 2015, 03:44:02 PM
Hi guys, i have 64GB SD card, write speed 80mb/s and when i record in RAW , video early stop. sometimes 5 seconds , sometimes 27 seconds. Other card (45mb/s) other times.  please, WHY?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 24, 2015, 03:55:34 PM
You won't bother to tell which settings you used?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Twentytwo on January 24, 2015, 04:17:49 PM
1504x392 , Aspect ratio: 2.35:1
f4.0 / 1/70 / ISO 1600 /53...9 FPS

64GB card 80mb/s - 13 seconds
32GB card 45mb/s - 13 seconds

1280x334 Aspect ratio: 2.35:1
f4.0 / 1/70 / ISO 1600 / 53...9 FPS

64GB card 80mb/s - 54-55 seconds
32GB card 45mb/s - 54 seconds

1280x544 Aspect ratio: 2.35:1
f4.0 / 1/70 / ISO 1600 / 26,9 FPS

64GB card 80mb/s - 4:00 up - without early stop
32GB card 45mb/s - 2:10 up  - without early stop

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 24, 2015, 04:29:53 PM
You tested 1504x392 with 9 to 53 fps and recording stopped after 13 seconds? Frame rate just doesn't matter?
First post tells fps override is not available ...

Don't touch fps settings. Just use defaults.
Different results now?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Twentytwo on January 24, 2015, 04:50:00 PM
fps was around 53,9... sorry
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 24, 2015, 04:59:47 PM
Was this setting changed by you or was it just the value displayed by ML? If second: Was this the actual frame rate?

If it was the actual frame rate:
Bandwidth = Vertical resolution * horizontal resolution * frame rate * 14 / 8
1504 * 392 * 59.3 * 14 / 8 = 61,182,419.2 -> 58.4 MByte/s
SD-card interface bandwidth is about 41 MByte/s
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: nikfreak on January 24, 2015, 05:03:48 PM
unfortuantely I am not able to share a more advanced release with you. We are going to test some more alphas. I will share the next link soon. Still most features like full resolution silent pictures or dot-tune won't be available for you. They work but only for me atm because they require properties enabled. First i need more feedback from you and have to solve some quirks like ASIF crashing, FPS-override and some other smallies.

What to expect with the next alpha:
- Indeed temperatures were too high. It will decrease now by 10°. will be much better
- Focus confirmation is fixed
- Quickzoom had been reported to not work. it will work now (didn't try myself until now so no clue if the reported bug was ok)
- Magic Zoom behaviour should be ok now (had been reported that buttons don't work as expected)
- You will get hardcoded fps (24 will be 24 instead of 21.xxx and so on) but still no fps-override
- No audio features in next build
- Overall stability

That's all for now...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Abe on January 24, 2015, 06:07:19 PM
Thanks nikfreak for the efforts so far.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 24, 2015, 06:39:14 PM
That's still great news @nikfreak -- thanks for keeping this development up to speed!

*cheers*
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Abe on January 24, 2015, 07:09:07 PM
Guys, don't want to deviate the thread but to answer @TwentyTwo, here are the speeds I'm getting with the Alpha 1:

Sandisk Extreme Pro 16Gb here:
F2.8, 800 ISO (it was at night ), 1/50 shutter speed

1600 x 600, 2:66 Aspect Ratio, Continuous
1600 x 680, 2:35 Aspect Ratio, 1832 frames (35 seconds)
1728 x 736, 2:35 Aspect Ratio, 560 frames (26 seconds)

Did not test any other Aspect Ratio as of now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: deusex1 on January 24, 2015, 09:29:06 PM
Hi guys. I want to also report, that after tweaking the MP menus around 5-10 minutes, I felt my camera hot in my hand, when I looked to the temp counter it was 80 degrees. That is too hot. I see the next update will alleviate tis problem to some extent, but I wonder, why is it happening? What is the ML menu doing? It is not like it is recording video during the menu operations?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: DigitalVeil on January 24, 2015, 10:04:53 PM
Hi guys. I want to also report, that after tweaking the MP menus around 5-10 minutes, I felt my camera hot in my hand, when I looked to the temp counter it was 80 degrees. That is too hot. I see the next update will alleviate tis problem to some extent, but I wonder, why is it happening? What is the ML menu doing? It is not like it is recording video during the menu operations?

It's not actually 80 degrees, ML is reporting the wrong temperature.  It's being fixed to report the real temperature.  I think the 70D just runs hotter than other cameras, mine would get just as warm to touch even before ML, ML is not making it hotter.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: deusex1 on January 24, 2015, 11:46:16 PM
Anyone knows what is the proper way to uninstal ML alpha? I've formatted the SD card, but camera sometimes has problems starting up. If I remove the SD card and put it back again, the camera does not start. Need to remove battery in order to start.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Abe on January 25, 2015, 11:21:20 AM
Anyone knows what is the proper way to uninstal ML alpha? I've formatted the SD card, but camera sometimes has problems starting up. If I remove the SD card and put it back again, the camera does not start. Need to remove battery in order to start.

You can go to the firmware tab of your canon menu, press OK and then follow the instructions. At some point, you should have clear understanding of what to do. Also please search the forum as there is a thread regarding this: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=2569.0

I'm not sure if it will apply to the alpha 1, or if that is doable as of now but at least you can have a look.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 25, 2015, 11:29:32 AM
My opinion: I wouldn't even try to reset cam's bootflag in this state of development! Not until a free pass is given by devs.

Formating the card using a cardreader should be enough to stop ML from loading. You may check if the card is bootable by EOScard/Macboot. Those tools are able to remove such settings from the card, too.

@nikfreak: Your initial post doesn't discuss bootflag issues and doesn't include an uninstallation section. Would you mind adding some info about it?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: deusex1 on January 25, 2015, 11:58:31 AM
Yes apparently the bootflag got stuck in my camera, even though I formatted the card. At this alpha state, there is no menu instructions to un-install ML. My camera had the same issues reported by that thread you pointed out - 3sec boot time (very slow) and after the SD card is removed, the camera gets non responsive/bricked until the battery goes out and in again.

Now very unexpectedly the camera fixed itself! How? No idea! It was in that "bricked" state with the power switch set to "on", but still non responsive. I left it on my desk and after 2-3 minutes it just switched on by itself. After that, there are no more of the stated above problems. Is it possible, that Canon has some fail-safe function and cleans its bootflags / reinstalls factory firmware if problems are detected?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: nikfreak on January 25, 2015, 12:08:33 PM
still not clear to me where deusex formatted his card. Using a sdcard reader or by using Canon menu to format card and (1) keep ML or (2) remove ML? There's the option to switch with Q button. Also on page 1 see replies #10 and #11.

At this alpha state, there is no menu instructions to un-install ML.

Which menu instructions do you refer to? Any other cam shouldn't have this...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: deusex1 on January 25, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
Oh I formatted the SD card on the PC, not in camera. Was that a bad idea?

There is no menu instructions to un-install ML.  - I was refering to instructions during re-installation.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: nikfreak on January 25, 2015, 02:51:52 PM
I guess there are instructions on the forum how to uninstall. See also Digitalveil's reply #16
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: ontheset on January 25, 2015, 03:06:32 PM
Well i guess my camera has the old FW revision(# starts with 032*******).
We'll just have to wait for the next one......it sucks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: deusex1 on January 25, 2015, 03:59:35 PM
Ok so generally formatting the SD externally is not recommended. Its better to do it in camera with the "remove ML" option. Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 25, 2015, 04:05:27 PM
Ok so generally formatting the SD externally is not recommended. Its better to do it in camera with the "remove ML" option. Thanks!
Can't see that. Both ways will result in a non-bootable card and that's all needed to disable ML from loading.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: maitimaus on January 25, 2015, 04:46:14 PM
Big thanks to nikfreak  ;) I have only the old 70D form December 2013 :'( so at the moment I can't test anything...

I calculated that [email protected],976 must be the highest continuous resolution on the 70D at 2,35:1 aspect ratio . Can someone of the alpha testers confirm that it's working continuous?

1551 * 660 * 23,976 * 14 / 8 = 42,950,726 Bytes/s -> 40.961 MByte/s

And can someone tell me if raw recording on the 70D is only possible with higher crop factors or with the same crop factor like a typical H264 1920x1080p recording?

And my last question to you: What data rate is later required for mlv audio?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 25, 2015, 04:58:17 PM
This 41 MByte/s number always coming around is the limit. But it doesn't say you can go to 40.9 all the time. The closer you get to the limit the closer you get to unwanted hickups.
May work once or twice but may cause stops just whenever not wanted.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 25, 2015, 07:05:28 PM
   As stated prev', My 70D is from Dec2013 so I am Waiting&WatchingPatiently ~ But ~ Am wondering if those who have had

 success would be so kind as to post a Pic' of the InfoScreen that they used During Their SuccessfulInstall ~ & Possibly some Details on

Camera &or Lens Settings that You think might have been involved in Your Success ~

                        ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 25, 2015, 07:26:22 PM
The issue with crop, is not the that the 70D cant do a 3X crop to get a 2K picture but its the SD card writer limitations.
1600x680 apsect 2.35, 24 fps, for 30s, is about the limit of usefull higher res from what tests have shown so far. 
Ofcourse if you want to shoot clips longer than 30s at any aspect you can always shoot 1280xwhatever raw continuous.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: kubodhi on January 26, 2015, 02:41:15 AM
   As stated prev', My 70D is from Dec2013 so I am Waiting&WatchingPatiently ~ But ~ Am wondering if those who have had

 success would be so kind as to post a Pic' of the InfoScreen that they used During Their SuccessfulInstall ~ & Possibly some Details on

Camera &or Lens Settings that You think might have been involved in Your Success ~

                        ORR ~ DeanB

Noticed this today, maybe it'll help you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1YOAPxWe0I
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 26, 2015, 05:43:35 AM
                    Kubodhi

          Good Find ~ Thanks for the post ~ I suspect it will be of help to more than just me ~ When the day comes ~

                                                                                                          ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: TomJ on January 26, 2015, 06:09:36 AM
ML menu kicks me out, goes back to LV arbitrarily. Goes right back to ML menu with delete, but then kicks me out random time later.

Display flashes in one-second intervals at all times. RAW vid records to 10-seconds and stops auto.

Sony 32gb C10, U3 94mb/s cards.

Not sure how useful any of that is, but LMK if there's more I can give.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Abe on January 26, 2015, 10:29:12 AM
ML menu kicks me out, goes back to LV arbitrarily. Goes right back to ML menu with delete, but then kicks me out random time later.

Display flashes in one-second intervals at all times. RAW vid records to 10-seconds and stops auto.

Sony 32gb C10, U3 94mb/s cards.

Not sure how useful any of that is, but LMK if there's more I can give.

If I'm not mistaken, nikfreak indicated it was a known bug.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 26, 2015, 10:31:33 AM
That's correct , it is a known bug.

Similar to EOS-M.

No big deal, really!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: ovspianist on January 26, 2015, 02:56:07 PM
Hi guys,

Sorry if my question seems newbie to ask here, but I've been searching the internet for hours but cannot find any answer.
I've done everything as instruction says but when I start the EOSCard 1.40 program, it says ERROR: exFAT VBR load failed.
Previously my drive is formatted as FAT32, it said ERROR: FAT32 VBR load failed.

Has anyone seen this error before?

Thank you all very much!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: walter_schulz on January 26, 2015, 03:05:11 PM
There are some references for this error. Let me guess: You're using an internal SD-cardreader?
Get an external one and try again.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: ovspianist on January 26, 2015, 05:17:07 PM
Thank you! Yes the problem comes from internal sd card reader, I updated sdcard reader's driver and everything worked fine!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: PanzerMamba on January 26, 2015, 07:03:40 PM
Guys, plz could somebody share with raw video material directly from magic lantern/camera 70d? I just want to try colloc corection on material from 70d ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Edu on January 27, 2015, 12:47:22 AM
Hi, I installed the Alpha release on my 70D (w) with serial starting with: #0280, made in JAPAN.

I did all the steps in multiple variations but never got the playback screen displaying the picture (taken before update) with the boot message... no luck!

Will wait until the update...

Thanks

Eduardo
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: carlos787 on January 27, 2015, 02:59:14 AM
Waz up guys,
A little detail here, I'm starting to get hot pixels in my raw footage. is anyone else having this issue? Everything was working fine at first for a week then on Saturday I went out to take some videos with same settings i have been using and im getting hot pixels in the same area every time. On canons native video recording I dont get the pixels (tried and tested), neither on raw photos (CR2). I was researching this and it appears that some people have had this issues with cameras like the 5d. /Some say its a firmware glitch others just run a pixel patcher (inefficient).
Workflow:
1280x720 continuous, cbr 3.0x (havent seen any major differences either, dont know if its working)
process RAW files through Rawinizer, extracting DNGs then open in resolve then export to DNXHD 422.

I have also done the manual sensor cleaning to fix hot pixels but in ML RAW REC only pixels stay the same (damaged).
Solutions anyone?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: deusex1 on January 27, 2015, 03:12:03 AM
Carlos, I got some PINK hot pixels only if I convert the RAW through MlRawViewer_1_3_3 and chose the Prores output. If I chose the DNG output - no hot pixels.
Havent used Rawanizer. Also to note, that pink pixels occur near very bright areas on the clipping border.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 27, 2015, 04:29:30 AM
I'm afraid Rawinizer isn't supported on ML...

Though I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: flerk on January 27, 2015, 12:38:08 PM
Hey, Im new here and sorry if this is in the wrong thread or asked like 5000 times. dont kill me ;p
How do I know which model 70D I have?

I see people talkong about a december 2013 model and stuff?

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: walter_schulz on January 27, 2015, 12:42:32 PM
How do I know which model 70D I have?
After you tried installing it and failed twice: You have the cam version not supported yet.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: grey on January 27, 2015, 01:14:39 PM
Hi to all. I'm just install ML on my 70D. The installation was not according to instruction. You might assume that after shooting should go view the captured frame. But many people have autoreview off. And while I myself have not pressed a play key the message about the successful activation of the boot loader did not appear.

I buy 70D in July 2014. Just for statistics.

Raw video + continuous AF is excellent pair.
Thank to all ML development group for your work.

And sorry for my bad English.  :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Piggy on January 27, 2015, 08:28:53 PM
Overlays
-Zebras: NOT OK They flicker on and off when autofocusing
-Focus Peak: NOT OK Same issue as zebras
-MagicZoom: ____
-Cropmarks: OKBut sometimes canon modules pop up and overlay on top of it
-Ghost Image: ____
-Spotmeter: ____
-False Color: ____
-Histogram: OK
-Waveform: OK
-Vectorscope: ____
Movie
-BitRate: NOT OK
-REC Key: OK
-Gradual Exposure: ____
-FPS Override: Not availbale with Alpha0
-HDR Video: NOT OK
-Vignetting: ____
-Image Finetuning: ____
-Movie Tweaks: OK
Shoot
-Intervalometer: OK
-Motion Detect: OK
-Shoot Preferences: ____
Included Modules
- Raw_rec: OK, but stops recording at 10 secs with a 95 MB/s Sandisk
- ettr: ____
- autoexpo: ____
- ....
Other issues:
Seems like anything that overlays over liveview, and the image affects the output (Zebras, Focus Peaking, etc) flashes when autofocusing
_______________________________________
_______________________________________
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: CorentinF on January 27, 2015, 08:33:31 PM
Hi, i've just installed ML alpha1 succesfully following the video :)

Review
 
Overlays
-Zebras: Works fine.
-Focus Peak: Works fine.
-MagicZoom: Nothing when active :/
-Cropmarks: Works fine
-Ghost Image: ____
-Spotmeter: Works fine
-False Color: Works fine
-Histogram: Works fine
-Waveform: Works fine
-Vectorscope: Works fine
Movie
-BitRate: Do nothing (no change in the file)
-REC Key: Working
-Gradual Exposure: Don't really know what it supposed to do, see no change
-FPS Override: Not availbale with Alpha0
-HDR Video: Working
-Vignetting: ____
-Image Finetuning: Working
-Movie Tweaks: Working
Shoot
-Intervalometer: ____
-Motion Detect: ____
-Shoot Preferences: ____
Included Modules
- Raw_rec: ____
- ettr: ____
- autoexpo: ____
- ....
Other issues:
- Known but still : The ML menu is closing after a few seconds
- Internal temperature growing super fast, 76°C in about 10 minutes...

I will try raw rec soon.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Piggy on January 27, 2015, 08:44:14 PM
Other issues:
- Knows but still : The ML menu is closing after a few seconds
- Internal temperature growing super fast, 76°C in about 10 minutes...

I will try raw rec soon.

Forgot to include this, the temperature on my camera also rises extremely fast, goes from 20°C to 49°C in a few mins
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: TomJ on January 28, 2015, 03:50:25 AM
Quote
Forgot to include this, the temperature on my camera also rises extremely fast, goes from 20°C to 49°C in a few mins

Ditto here. Had an overheat shutdown using ML this weekend. Flashbacks to using the 7D in India some years ago and having to force cool it...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: nikfreak on January 28, 2015, 09:45:01 AM
As announced here (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg138564#msg138564) I uploaded a new build for you to test. Once I get some positive feedback I will update the first post, too.

Quote
What to expect with the next alpha:
- Indeed temperatures were too high. It will decrease now by ~10°. will be much better
- Focus confirmation is fixed
- Quickzoom had been reported to not work. it will work now (didn't try myself until now so no clue if the reported bug was ok)
- Magic Zoom behaviour should be ok now (had been reported that buttons don't work as expected)
- You will get hardcoded fps 23.98xx (24 will be 24 instead of 21.xxx and so on) but still no fps-override
- No audio features in next build
- Overall stability

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRUHNReFN4RmdYVEU/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: Abe on January 28, 2015, 12:51:27 PM
As announced here (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg138564#msg138564) I uploaded a new build for you to test. Once I get some positive feedback I will update the first post, too.

Thanks nikfreak for the update.

Just installed it and did some tests (Format Card + Q to remove previous ML first )

Overlays:
-Zebras: OK
-Focus Peak: OK
-MagicZoom: OK (Still not displaying the green bars. Also switched to split screen, same issue, does not confirms the focus. Both on Autofocus and Manual Focus. I don't know if issue could be lens-specific since I did not try with another lens.)
-Cropmarks: OK
-Ghost Image: ____
-Spotmeter: OK
-False Color: OK
-Histogram: OK (For some reason, the simplified histogram did not work. Only the full one works)
-Waveform: OK
-Vectorscope: OK

The other categories were not deeply tested, same results as everybody else here.

Other:
- Temperature seems to be a bit better, although I did not shoot that much. Some clips here and there. Got 60° after 6-7 minutes.
- Exporting .RAW to DNG via Raw2cdng now shows the correct FPS: 23.978 (Previously was 22 FPS with Alpha 1)
- QuickZoom works now for the 100% scale. When changing to "zoom to autofocus point", still acts as a 100% zoom, not on autofocus point.
- The famous bug with the ML menu quitting after few seconds seems to happen a bit faster than on Alpha 1 (that's my feeling, but will wait for other's confirmation. Anyway, not a big deal)


PS:
At some point, I went to format the card and wanted to keep ML on it (using the Q button while in the format menu).
I specifically chose the "Keep ML" and it format+removed ML.
Kind of a bug, I don't know, but at least people who wants to remove completely ML knows that it works perfectly ;p

Thanks nikfreak for all the efforts.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: nikfreak on January 28, 2015, 01:04:06 PM
...
At some point, I went to format the card and wanted to keep ML on it (using the Q button while in the format menu).
I specifically chose the "Keep ML" and it format+removed ML.
Kind of a bug, I don't know, but at least people who wants to remove completely ML knows that it works perfectly ;p

Thanks nikfreak for all the efforts.

Yeah y'all need to wait until I add this (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/branch/restore-after-format). Shouldn't be a dealbreaker but that will solve all quirks with restoring / formatting
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha1 19th January)
Post by: camslide on January 28, 2015, 01:55:44 PM
Hey guys!
Is it possible to access the wifi settings through ML? Especially I would be interested if it is possible to have more than 3 sets for mobile phone access... I'm using 2 different apps on 2 devices (Tablet, Smartphone) This would require 4 profiles if I would go for direct wifi connection. However, at home I would like to use it in my home wifi to have Internet access on my devices while beeing connected to the camera -> 8 profiles. It's pretty annoying to only have 3.
I know, this is low priority but would be a nice feature.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: nikfreak on January 28, 2015, 03:22:21 PM
just updated the first post with the new download link, too
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: tuxfoto on January 28, 2015, 03:54:14 PM
Hi nikfreak,

THANKS FOR YOUR EXCELLENT WORK!!!

For Alpha2 you can change the Changelog?
What is new?

Thank You
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Makadamia on January 28, 2015, 04:12:34 PM
@tuxfoto: Please see http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg138852#msg138852
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: tuxfoto on January 28, 2015, 04:20:18 PM
Oh, sorry i forget my glasses  8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Mr.Click on January 28, 2015, 08:14:49 PM
Thank You very much Nikfreak !  Quickzoom is working fine now ! And thank´s for Dot Tune  :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: TomJ on January 28, 2015, 08:19:47 PM
BTW, Nikfreak and other dev's, if you're ever in the Denver or Boulder area, shout me up, drinks on me for finally getting this rolling.

I may post probs with ML, but it's not complaining, I'm actually ecstatic just to have something running after drooling for over a year about it!! YEEHAWW!!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: true on January 28, 2015, 08:41:36 PM
what is the sense to release new versions, if half of the cameras do not support this firmware? :-\
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 28, 2015, 08:45:41 PM
Debugging the port. That's what is done right now.
No, it's not just "take the working code from another cam, change 2 software settings and the port is done".
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: nikfreak on January 28, 2015, 08:49:59 PM
Thank You very much Nikfreak !  Quickzoom is working fine now ! And thank´s for Dot Tune  :)

hey Mr. Click,

dot tune works fine here with properties enabled. Didn't test with properties disabled which is the case for Alpha2. In theory it shouldn't write values back to Canon menu with Alpha2. Maybe you got lucky and it will work w/o writing values but show the correct afma settings so you can set them manually. Is this fact for you?  In general I think a lot of people will be happy to use it cause the 70D has been somewhat discussed about afma problems on different forums.... Now they will get an automated way to run it as often and as fast as possible. :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: carlos787 on January 28, 2015, 10:48:30 PM
 8) thanks again nikfreak, great work!!!

Initially had some small issues with recording but with a little research everything is working fine!!!

I'm new to magic lantern and DSLRs but this hack is the bomb!!!
already installed alpha 2

little video just to see detail and quality, recorded with alpha 1.
http://youtu.be/tsdn8URZmAY

let me know what you think..
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Glassed on January 28, 2015, 11:51:39 PM
Congrats on the Alpha 2 Release !, looks like the port is growing fast ! :D

Any news on the support for early 2014 70D`s ?

The raw video may be lower res, but certainly looks awesome!

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: OlRivrRat on January 29, 2015, 05:29:06 AM
"what is the sense to release new versions, if half of the cameras do not support this firmware?"

              True ~ ChillOut

        It makes HugeSense ~ It's a MonumentalTask for NikFreak&Friends to do what they are doing for us on Just 1 FirmwareIteration ~

If they had 2 F'W's & 2 Sets of BugReports from AllOfUs to DealWith it Could QuiteConceivably get MonumentallyConfusing ~

        Just think how nice it's going to be Once ItIsOurTurn ~ The OtherGuy MayHaveAlready Found AllTheBugs ~

                                                                                                                   ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: deusex1 on January 29, 2015, 02:47:51 PM
Thanks for your efforts, nikfreak, you are actually making a difference in the filmmaking community! We owe you!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Mr.Click on January 29, 2015, 05:30:07 PM
I tried Dot Tune, ist doesn´t work. It starts and then stops after 2 Seconds with a note saying " canceled by user" 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: theamazingaustin on January 30, 2015, 02:31:03 AM
New here, and just want to say HUGE thanks to the devs working on the 70D. So stoked and looking forward to a stable / beta build!

Quick question for y'all, is / will 1080p @ 60fps be possible with ML on the 70D? SO sorry if this was asked / there is an obvious answer, search didn't turn up anything that I could see.

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Piggy on January 30, 2015, 03:35:57 AM
New here, and just want to say HUGE thanks to the devs working on the 70D. So stoked and looking forward to a stable / beta build!

Quick question for y'all, is / will 1080p @ 60fps be possible with ML on the 70D? SO sorry if this was asked / there is an obvious answer, search didn't turn up anything that I could see.

Thanks guys!

As of right now, no, it barely works @ 960p at 21 frames a sec, it will only record for 10 seconds +/-
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: vfero on January 30, 2015, 03:36:34 AM
Hello All,


I'm sorry to ask this question once more but didn't get any answer... Is the advanced bracketing available on this ML? I don't talk about HDR video, just the ability to make more brackets.

Thanks a lot,
VFero
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: maxxens on January 30, 2015, 09:28:18 AM
I have a general question. What exactly happens when the first step (the Firmwareupdate) is executed and are the changes reversible?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: walter_schulz on January 30, 2015, 09:42:21 AM
There is a thingy called "bootflag" set in the camera. This is - at time of writing - non-reversible and causes a delay (about 1.5 seconds) at startup and exiting powersave mode.
The rest (executable code) is stored in the card.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: maxxens on January 30, 2015, 10:23:27 AM
I expected that there would be some flag. The question was only, if setting this flag is reversible and if you could get problems with cps.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: walter_schulz on January 30, 2015, 10:31:23 AM
See FAQ. There is not a single report about problems with CPS and/or other support departments since ML is in the wild.

But this piece of code is in alpha stage.
 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: maxxens on January 30, 2015, 11:44:54 AM
I know, that it is an alpha right now. Unfortunately I don't have time to help with the debugging myself but I am thankful for all who help improving ML and of course also the programmer :)
Until then I wait for a more stable version and/or more time to test myself..
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Piggy on January 30, 2015, 04:17:42 PM
New here, and just want to say HUGE thanks to the devs working on the 70D. So stoked and looking forward to a stable / beta build!

Quick question for y'all, is / will 1080p @ 60fps be possible with ML on the 70D? SO sorry if this was asked / there is an obvious answer, search didn't turn up anything that I could see.

Thanks guys!
Actually I misunderstood your question, I thought you were talking about RAW, it is possible, but FPS override is not available right now
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: vfero on January 31, 2015, 08:11:40 PM
Installation of ML is OK but i can't follow step 11 ( eoscard say: Write Failed ). Does somebody knows how to make it work? So close to make it run :)

Thanks
Vince
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 31, 2015, 08:14:55 PM
EOScard version?
OS used?
Internal/external writer?
Card type?

Have you tried different cardreaders?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: vfero on January 31, 2015, 08:19:03 PM
Sorry:

Eos Card 1.40
Windows 7
External Reader
Tried on another one and makes the same

SanDisk SDSDX-016G-FFP 16 GB 45 MB/s Extreme
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 31, 2015, 08:25:55 PM
Maybe (as in "maybe") your antivirus software is doing this. Are you able to deactivate your suite temporarily?
Or do you have another cam supported by ML?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: vfero on January 31, 2015, 08:32:38 PM
Antivirus off, it doesn't work. Gonna try another card
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: vfero on January 31, 2015, 08:54:49 PM
~Don't work with another card... Still trying!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on January 31, 2015, 09:46:16 PM
It will not be possible to shoot 1080p @ 60fps with the 70D in camera.
If you put it in 1280p at 60fps, then there is no 3X crop.
Without the crop you will get limitted by the camera max. res. which I am not sure for 70D, but its less than 1920x1080.
If you put it in 1920p at 24/30 fps and try to override fps to 60, you find actual fps is less than 60 fps.
So there is no way to do that.  Best bet is to shoot, 1280p at 60fps with higher bit rate, then up res. to 1080p.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: vfero on January 31, 2015, 10:11:49 PM
Got it. Comodo was blocking eoscard... Sorry

I've got now ML on my 70D :)

As i've said before, my 600D+ML does have advanced bracketing.
How to know if it's planned for 70D too?

Thanks all
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: chrbhm on February 01, 2015, 10:08:38 AM
Guys,

since I installed Alpha2 I encountered probs with TrapFocus. Worked mostly fine on Alpha1.
Shutter does not release on focus confirmation anymore.

Rgds
Christian

P.S.: Switching back to Alpha1 and Trap Focus works like a charm.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: cryptyk on February 01, 2015, 07:25:05 PM
It looks like ettr.mo isn't included in the Alpha2 release.  Is that intentional?  I see the module source in the repo...

Thanks!
Ryan
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: hi2gage.pdx on February 01, 2015, 07:50:09 PM
So whats the plan with the early serial numbers?
Are we just in the dark or are they working on ours too?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 01, 2015, 07:56:09 PM
Calm down and show patience. Current state is Alpha 2 and supporting two different firmware versions right now doesn't make that much sense.
In fact: You and all others with "the other" firmware version will benefit from those having to struggle with this alpha.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: nikfreak on February 01, 2015, 08:07:48 PM
P.S.: Switching back to Alpha1 and Trap Focus works like a charm.

Ok found it and thx for reporting. Once I got some steps further i will include it but it may take some time. Actually I am kinda stuck on some bugs and that makes headaches plus rubs all time...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: DaaC234 on February 02, 2015, 09:10:23 AM
@nikfreak


(http://www.nomensa.com/blog/sites/default/files/blog/assets/uploads/2012/01/thankyou.png)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: PanzerMamba on February 02, 2015, 02:29:57 PM
How to uninstall ml alpha?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: walter_schulz on February 02, 2015, 02:37:43 PM
At time of writing you will be unable to remove cam's bootflag.
To wipe all ML content from card: Insert into cardreader and format it. There are some other ways to disable ML from running but this will work for sure.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Teran0vA on February 02, 2015, 04:45:10 PM
“Guys,

since I installed Alpha2 I encountered probs with TrapFocus. Worked mostly fine on Alpha1.
Shutter does not release on focus confirmation anymore.

Rgds
Christian

P.S.: Switching back to Alpha1 and Trap Focus works like a charm.” - chrbhm

Alpha 1’s Trap Focus is much slower compared to my 60D (same lens and settings) and starts to get very unresponsive after a bit of use, even sometimes randomly taking a picture a while (1 – 2 min) after the last focus confirmation. I haven’t tried alpha 2 yet but it seems the same problem is still happening according to chrbhm. Strange that its fine on his Alpha 1. I’ll try Alpha 2 later tonight when I get a chance.

Thanks for the hard work. Can’t wait for the complete build ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: pkrskr on February 03, 2015, 09:06:22 AM
Hi,

I'm working on Computational Photography, specifically focal stack acquisition, and I'm looking to buy a new camera specifically to be able to use MagicLantern. Is this feature already working on the Canon 70D or should I purchase the older 60D just to be sure that the release is stable and everything works well.

Thanks in anticipation for your replies. I apologize if I'm on the wrong thread. I would love to contribute to development. Please guide me to where and how I can start.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Canniballissimo on February 03, 2015, 09:41:24 AM
pkrskr, this feature is available even with the application EOS Remote. There you can control the focus directly from your phone
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: walter_schulz on February 03, 2015, 09:49:09 AM
And for those deep, deep, deep into DFF motor driven macro rails (like StackShot) may be an option. Because they will work with non-AF lenses (MP-E 65), retro mounts and bellows, too.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Siedst on February 04, 2015, 04:26:51 PM
Hello everybody!
There is something confusing me about ML RAW video, and I don't know if its a known problem or a 70D issue.
The RAW video footage is always underexposed by 2/3 EV compared to the RAW.CR2-file.
When I press the shutter after making a raw video, with the exact same settings,
and I compare a DNG-file from the video with the CR2-file from the picture, than they have not the same exposure.

I know that ML raw is only working with ISO 100, 200, 400..

After some tests, I know that shutter-speed and aperture are not changing.
Aperture would change DOF and vignette. Shutter would result in flickering.

So I made a test with ISO100, aperture 22 (maximum) and shutter at 1/4000. It's not possible to get a darker picture in video mode.
And... the same... the ML raw dng-file is underexposed by 2/3 EV compared to the RAW.CR2-file.

How is it possible? Does ML RAW works with < 100 ISO ? Or is it a bug?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: a1ex on February 04, 2015, 04:49:05 PM
Canon's LiveView implementation uses a slightly lower ISO, compared to photo mode. The exposure is controlled by Canon code, not by ML.

Some measurements on other cameras: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10111.msg123221#msg123221

To get the same info for 70D, just run these tests: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10111.msg117955#msg117955
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Siedst on February 04, 2015, 06:09:58 PM
OK, there is different ISO for photo and video mode. Video uses lower ISO.

But why is the ML RAW footage also underexposed by 2/3 EV compared to the H264 video?
I tested all picture profiles with same exposure setting as the RAW video.
Both is video mode, right?

Also RAW-Histogram and RAW-Zebra show some overexposure/clipping. The final raw footage isn't overexposed.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: a1ex on February 04, 2015, 06:18:11 PM
When you develop a raw image, you can choose to clip some highlights (which simply results in a higher ISO). Why Canon chose to do so, you should ask them. I'm not a Canon engineer, so can't answer this one.

Another hypothesis: you might be confused by the highlight recovery applied by most raw processors. Canon doesn't apply any. The result is that your raw image has more highlight detail, and because of this, you called it "underexposed".

BTW - how exactly did you measure a 2/3-stop difference between a RAW (linear) image and a H.264 (nonlinear) one?

About zebra overexposure - you are the tester, so you need to upload some sample images showing the problem. Most likely, the white level assumed by ML might be lower than the real one. Your job is to find the correct value.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Siedst on February 04, 2015, 07:26:55 PM
Maybe it's all my fault and I am to dumb.

I noticed that all ML RAW footage was "to dark" compared to h264 video and photo RAW with same exposure settings.
I process RAW via Adobe Camera RAW with standard curve. (maybe this curve is the problem)
I think the Adobe Standard Curve is compareable with the Canon Picture Profiles.
Of course, each curve looks different, but they shouldn't result in a completely different exposure.

When i speak about 2/3 EV underexposure, I mean there is a overall shift about a 2/3-stop.
I measured it via a graycard, histogramm, and my eyes ;). Not scientific!

Here is a link with 2 pictures. Tomorrow i will do a better test.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lwcx999p30gkkw9/AAAHgbCqpNbK1eok0CqmvMjLa?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lwcx999p30gkkw9/AAAHgbCqpNbK1eok0CqmvMjLa?dl=0)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Bai_Niki on February 04, 2015, 08:09:12 PM
It doesnt work. My 70D is exact 1 Year old (it was bought from notebooksbiliger.de last February), perhaps is the old Version. I"ll wait, but nevertheless thank you :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: a1ex on February 04, 2015, 08:19:57 PM
Two issues with this approach:

1) ISO is not defined from overall brightness, but from the clipping point (so you should compare how many highlights get clipped)
2) the curves may not be comparable directly, unless you know them (and with closed-source image processors it's a little harder)

http://dougkerr.net/Pumpkin/articles/ISO_Dynamic_range.pdf
http://www.dxomark.com/About/In-depth-measurements/Measurements/ISO-sensitivity

See also http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12835.msg124226#msg124226

In any case, this is not a bug.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on February 05, 2015, 12:36:36 AM
RAW video captures the image straight from individual pixels on the cameras sensor. What you see in LiveView is canon's rendition based off of in camera settings, RAW removes these settings and writes the straight pixel data to a .RAW file. When you convert it, it will seem dark and flat until you color correct it. I might not understand your issue, but it may just be that LiveView shows a brighter (not underexposed) rendition, whereas the sensor is actually darker/possibly underexposed.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: JPP on February 05, 2015, 02:15:16 PM
Hey Guys, quick question.

I tried searching for a solution but I didn't find anything. Sorry if this came up before;

When I'm trying to record RAW video an error message appears after 4 seconds: "Early stop (11). Didn't make it to estimated record time."

Anyone knows what the problem might be ?

I'm using the SanDisk Extreme Pro 32 GB btw.

Thanks in advance !!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Abe on February 05, 2015, 02:46:11 PM
Hey Guys, quick question.

I tried searching for a solution but I didn't find anything. Sorry if this came up before;

When I'm trying to record RAW video an error message appears after 4 seconds: "Early stop (11). Didn't make it to estimated record time."

Anyone knows what the problem might be ?

I'm using the SanDisk Extreme Pro 32 GB btw.

Thanks in advance !!!

Did you check the resolution you're shooting at?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on February 05, 2015, 02:46:42 PM
It depends on your recording settings, if the raw is above 720p in 16:9 or 1560p in 2.39:1, it overloads the cache memory, or the buffer.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: JPP on February 05, 2015, 03:16:35 PM
Did you check the resolution you're shooting at?

Hey, yes I did. Currently I'm shooting at 1824 x 1026. That's the highest the camera would go.

It depends on your recording settings, if the raw is above 720p in 16:9 or 1560p in 2.39:1, it overloads the cache memory, or the buffer.

That's probably my problem then... what resolution should I choose to shoot longer than a few seconds ?

Sorry for all these beginner questions, I'm just getting started with the whole ML+RAW thing and although I'm reading and learning a lot, it's quite overwhelming at times :)

Thanks for the help!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Piggy on February 05, 2015, 04:20:46 PM
Hey, yes I did. Currently I'm shooting at 1824 x 1026. That's the highest the camera would go.

That's probably my problem then... what resolution should I choose to shoot longer than a few seconds ?

Sorry for all these beginner questions, I'm just getting started with the whole ML+RAW thing and although I'm reading and learning a lot, it's quite overwhelming at times :)

Thanks for the help!!

He basically told you what res to use...

720p in 16:9 or 1560p in 2.39:1
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: JPP on February 05, 2015, 05:45:37 PM
He basically told you what res to use...

720p in 16:9 or 1560p in 2.39:1

Yeah, I realised that after a while, I can be slow sometimes... :P
Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Matheus on February 05, 2015, 06:48:27 PM
Tried on my camera yesterday. No success :(

October 2013 model...
Title: Temporary Alternative
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on February 05, 2015, 08:57:29 PM
For those of you (us) with earlier serial numbers, that are anxiously and graciously waiting for ML to become available, I may have a temporary alternative, depending on your needs. 

DSLR Controller is an Android App that does some of the features found within ML.  You can connect your 70D to your Android Device via a USB OTG cable or via Wi-Fi. 

http://dslrcontroller.com/about.php

Note: I am not affiliated in any way with Chainfire or J.B. Jongma Holding B.V.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Torios on February 05, 2015, 09:26:23 PM
Only for participants of this forum. Free of charge. Еnjoy))

edit bij moderator:
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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: c4v3man on February 05, 2015, 09:45:35 PM
Just wanted to say that if you can afford a $200-600 phone, and a $1000+ camera, paying $8 to support an app developer isn't that much to ask.

That being said, I've found Wi-Fi on my 70D to be fiddly... I'll usually have to switch to a different set of connection settings on the 70d, then back to the set I'm trying to use, in order to get the camera to accept the connection. Not sure if it's the goofy permissions system on the camera possibly acting as a firewall, but I can oftentimes see the camera on the network (with a network scan), but am unable to connect to it using the app until I toggle to a different set then back.

Also keep in mind you'll need to use a different set of parameters on the camera when you use DSLRController as opposed to EOS Remote, since apparently the permissions system is bound to an app, not to a device. Since you can have 3 sets of settings on the camera (per connection mode) it's not too much hassle, just something to keep in mind.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: bsauce42 on February 06, 2015, 12:13:58 AM
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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: ar.pictures on February 07, 2015, 08:55:58 AM
Hi , in My 70D after Update ( Installing ML ) Nothing hapening !  :(
i Did evry things , but not installing..

Is it About Revisions?

HELP plz
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Audionut on February 07, 2015, 09:06:08 AM
Read the first post again!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Ozyozers on February 08, 2015, 11:18:24 AM
You guys are doing great job, can't wait to use ML in my 70D
Very much appreciated!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: PanzerMamba on February 08, 2015, 03:15:49 PM
I've installed ML Alpha2 on my 70D, and it's working, but there is a little problem with raw recording.
I have kingston with 80MB/s writing speed, and nevertheless camera won't save more than 3-4 seconds of raw dng material.
I have tried 2.35:1 and 16:9 aspect ratios, 1600x900 (should be 30 seconds, was 3 sec.) or 1270x720 (should be continuous, was only about 10 sec.)
This SD card is two times faster than buffer, so where is the problem?
   

On another:

Why during recording 1270x720 image is cropped? Theres only way to record with that res.?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 08, 2015, 03:27:02 PM
Run benchmark in photo mode and use CrystalDiskMark/ATTO to verify results. If results are within expection (write rate in cam about 40 MByte/s) retry and make sure to turn Global Draw off.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: PanzerMamba on February 08, 2015, 04:11:02 PM
I can't run benchmark...

Camera won't start with SD card with ml alpha2. Few hours earlier everything was good, i turned off the camera, and put SD in the card reader for copy ml raw dng files. When I back SD to camera it won't- not only ML, but the whole camera. Something was crashed with ML or bootflag?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 08, 2015, 04:21:50 PM
Copy AUTOEXEC.BIN + ML directory to card and try again.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: PanzerMamba on February 08, 2015, 05:36:56 PM
Ok, after substitution ml + autoexec, camera has started. SD card seems to be ok (saving now lower than 41MB/s)

But after 90 seconds of  recording raw dng I try to stop and save it, but it caused recording crashed again, with information "saving error, nothing saved" or something like that.

In 1600x900 achieved only 10 sec of material.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 08, 2015, 05:45:36 PM
Which data rate was calculated by ML for this particular 90 seconds recording session? Where there any files written and how big are those? Any space left on card?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: PanzerMamba on February 08, 2015, 11:41:14 PM
Files "stuck" in the sd- I couldn't move, remove, copy any of ml raw files. Second attempt after formating SD, and reinstaling ml alpha2...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: larismanis on February 09, 2015, 08:19:41 PM
Hi guys,
sorry i am new with ML.
why  i don't have RAW shooting menu and FPS setting menu in ML.. can somebody help me?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: kubodhi on February 10, 2015, 12:56:28 AM
Hi guys,
sorry i am new with ML.
why  i don't have RAW shooting menu and FPS setting menu in ML.. can somebody help me?
You'll need to enable the raw_rec module to get RAW recording, and FPS override isn't yet available in the current alpha.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: ahmadkhmeesali on February 10, 2015, 09:30:28 AM
guy i need your help, i tried everything i could find any website, could help me please if someone had the same problem, HELP ME, i did everything i also bought a SanDisk class 10 94MB/s for the ML, nothing came out, my firmware is 1.1.1, and still could not install

HELP.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: bsauce42 on February 10, 2015, 09:32:36 AM
Read the first post
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 10, 2015, 09:33:22 AM
guy i need your help, i tried everything i could find any website, could help me please if someone had the same problem, HELP ME, i did everything i also bought a SanDisk class 10 94MB/s for the ML, nothing came out, my firmware is 1.1.1, and still could not install

HELP.

you may have gotten an early version of 70D like some of us do including myself...

All we can do is patiently wait for them to sort out the bug for us.

That's the least we can do atm.

Which is nice, actually!

 8)

Thanks @nikfreak & everyone else on board...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: ahmadkhmeesali on February 10, 2015, 09:40:13 AM
There was some info, apparently the main developer of the port did not have time to develop, but in December will be accepted for active work.

https://pp.vk.me/c625516/v625516897/2013/7WZOvrseiww.jpg


So we have to wait till December  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: ahmadkhmeesali on February 10, 2015, 09:44:35 AM
(https://pp.vk.me/c625516/v625516897/2013/7WZOvrseiww.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: bsauce42 on February 10, 2015, 09:44:53 AM
Old post
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: ahmadkhmeesali on February 10, 2015, 09:56:17 AM
ohh, what a relieve, thank u

cant wait........

 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: zahrten on February 11, 2015, 12:22:57 AM
1   Overlays
   -Zebras: __NOT OK (1/4 the screen not showing the zebras)
   -Focus Peak: _OK___
   -MagicZoom: __OK__
   -Cropmarks: __OK__
   -Ghost Image: __NOT OK (ghost image flicker)__
   -Spotmeter: __OK__
   -False Color: __NOT OK (Screen flicker, but otherwise work)__
   -Histogram: __OK__
   -Waveform: __OK__
   -Vectorscope: _OK___
2  Movie
   -BitRate: __OK__
   -REC Key: __OK__
   -Gradual Exposure: ____
   -FPS Override: Not availbale with Alpha0
   -HDR Video: ____
   -Vignetting: __OK (but very poor quality)__
   -Image Finetuning: ____
   -Movie Tweaks: __OK__
3   Shoot
   -Intervalometer: __OK__
   -Motion Detect: __NOT OK (could not get any of the modes working)__
   -Shoot Preferences: ____
4   Included Modules
   - Raw_rec: __OK (raw stable at 720p on sandisk extreme 45MB)__
   - ettr: ____
   - autoexpo: __OK (hard to say but it looked great)__
5   Other issues:
   The camera gets very hot very fast. 75C  within 15 min
     Focal lenth not showing correct
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: nikfreak on February 11, 2015, 12:52:17 AM
FYI: I am going to release a new Alpha today for testing. Again only for those cams which were already been able to run the previous builds.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: saeed2vfx on February 11, 2015, 09:37:57 AM
FYI: I am going to release a new Alpha today for testing. Again only for those cams which were already been able to run the previous builds.

 :'(
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: X-STATE on February 11, 2015, 10:54:21 AM
hey there
video recording RAW begins with 5 second delay after pressing the record button.
It is normal?
on the other models the same situation?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha2 28th January)
Post by: Abe on February 11, 2015, 11:07:17 AM
hey there
video recording RAW begins with 5 second delay after pressing the record button.
It is normal?
on the other models the same situation?

Yes, same situation, but not a big deal.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 11, 2015, 01:13:56 PM
I updated the first post and also added Alpha3 download link.
Alpha3 still has property request changes set to disabled. Be sure to check the changelog.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Filip on February 11, 2015, 01:50:36 PM
Hey everyone!

First of all I wanted to thank nikfreak for the great job he is and has been doing on the ML version for 70D - much appreciated!!!

I have an issue with the intervalometer - it does not seem to work on Manual mode for some reason. It counts down to 0 but does not take any pictures. I works perfectly fine in Av/Auto/Tv but not in M.

Is this a known issue and/or has anyone else experienced the same problem?

I will do my best to post a list of all the tested features as soon as I have some time to spare.

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: PanzerMamba on February 11, 2015, 04:52:33 PM
How to update correctly foram Aplha2 to Alpha3?

Do I have to update firmware again? Or only replace files form A2 by Aplha3?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: walter_schulz on February 11, 2015, 04:55:24 PM
Delete AUTOEXEC.BIN and ML directory and copy Alpha 2 contents to card.

Installing ML doesn't replace/update firmware. Read FAQ.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: zahrten on February 11, 2015, 06:15:59 PM
alpha 3
1   Overlays
-Zebras: __OK__
-Focus Peak: __OK__
-MagicZoom: __OK ___

2   Movie
-BitRate: __OK__
-FPS Override: __OK__

3   Shoot
-Intervalometer: __OK__
-Motion Detect: __NOT OK__ (Expo change did work, frame diff did not, steady hands would freeze the camera if no motion is detected,(had to turn off/on). Is repeatable.

4   Included Modules
- Raw_rec: __OK__stable at 1344X756_with SanDisk extreme 45 MB/s
- autoexpo: __OK__ (think it works but not sure ☺)

5   Other issues:
_Randomly gets kicked out of ML menu still present
_Still gets very hot. Hit 79C during test
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: hubie on February 11, 2015, 07:35:05 PM
Thank you very much for your efforts to bring ML to the 70D. Just ordered the camera and looking forward on using ML soon!
But first I will get myself used to it with the standard interface ;D. Just registered to appreciate it and I will keep myself updated with the problems/feedback here!
Just for the switch to ML: Read about problems with "older" versions of the 70D. How can I roughly check what age my 70D has? (in case it has been stored at the reseller for quite some time)

Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: mongonuel on February 11, 2015, 07:35:36 PM
Hello, it's normal to achieve 7s of recording on 1600x900 and 37s at 1280x720 in RAW?  (im using a 64G SDXC UHS-1 Lexar Professional 600x), great job nikfreak!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: AhMeD on February 11, 2015, 08:09:42 PM
First of all

BIG thanks to nikfreak for making this dream comes true also big thanks to a1ex for making it easy to get to this awesome achievement.

I have two things that accrued to me when i tried both Alpha2 and 3
  1- Temperature rises quickly and reaches 71°  :o

  2- Battery drain too fast

And still checking on other things

Thanks again @nikfreak & a1ex

Cheers 8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 11, 2015, 08:19:03 PM
Ok Walter also wrote it but I repeat it again in hope someone of you can contribute and provide some detailed report regarding the temps. All you need to do is to follow this link:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9673.msg93158

Just a quote from above linked thread:
Quote
especially because exiftool tells me, this 80°C are in reality only 60°C.  :)

Provide the real Exif temperatures and additionally the values shown by ML as instructed in link above. Afterwards we will try to update the build to show the real values...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: pa0los on February 11, 2015, 08:52:55 PM
I tried the FPS override with Alpha3.
Couldn't get this to work with FPS higher than 25 - real FPS was always showing 25.0
Seems to be working only when reducing FPS value.
Is this normal?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: granan13 on February 11, 2015, 08:56:19 PM
Does bitrate work with someone ?

We can indeed modify the value and use the "up to 3.0x mode", but it doesn't seem to change anything :

- recorded two 5sec clips of the same scene, one with 1.0x and 3.0x, and they're the same size
- when you activate the bitrate info on liveview it shows the same values for 1.0 and 3.0.

Once more thanks a lot for this version
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 11, 2015, 08:58:54 PM
First page, first post. Section "What's not working"
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: PanzerMamba on February 11, 2015, 09:30:41 PM
Hi,

After short raw session, and trying resolutions from 1260x720 to highest possible camera showed: Error 002 Not access to the card.

First try recorded only few seconds in 1260x720 then recording stoped. I tried 1600x900 but aftes 1 sec recording stoped, showed "nothing saved" and "maybe sd is full". But its 28GB free space on kingston 32GB u3 80MB/s (writing).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 11, 2015, 09:53:16 PM
Panzermamba you are the only one encountering such errors until now. Reading through your last posts it seems there's something wrong with your card. Reformat it  and afterwards do a benchmark test in debug menu and post the results. You should be able to reach at least ~35-40MB/s. That#s what the benchmark should print out if you run it.
if you can't reach those values your card may be faulty or you may even got a faked one...


@hubie:
Quote
How can I roughly check what age my 70D has? (in case it has been stored at the reseller for quite some time)
Simpy flash the included firmware according to install instructions on 1st post to find out what revision you got. If you don't succeed simply send it back...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 11, 2015, 09:59:21 PM
@PanzerMamba: Give h2testw a try, too. It would help to determine your card's actual storage capacity.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on February 12, 2015, 01:33:03 AM
Hubie

According to the reports so far if your serial number is 6871947635 or less, the alpha build wont load.
If your serial number is higher it should load.  That's what the reported trend has been.
My best suggestion is take a ML loaded SD card with and verify in the store before you purchase,
else you will be exploring H264 (which is still rather decent on the 70D).




Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: skanter on February 12, 2015, 03:54:43 AM
My serial # is 022021000473

No good?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: TKF Productions on February 12, 2015, 04:52:42 AM
I have a question.  I did all the steps until downloading the EOSCARD Utility.  It all worked perfectly.  I only have Macs in my house.  I downloaded MacBoot from here: http://www.zenoshrdlu.com/macboot/macboot.html.  However, I'm not sure what to do from there.  I chose my SD card and then clicked Make CANON - Scriptable.  It didn't work and suggested I click "debug on".  I did and it is saying:

dd: /dev/disk7s1: Permission denied'
   return code was 1
Command 'diskutil mountDisk disk7' = 'Volume(s) mounted successfully'
   return code was 0

and below it says:

Making card bootable failed - retry with debug on for more information

Do I need a certain card? I am using a Sony 32GB card that writes at 40.  Can someone help with this MacBoot step? I am so close!!!  Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: TKF Productions on February 12, 2015, 05:10:03 AM
Sorry, please disregard my post above.  I got MacBoot to work and ML is working properly so far.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: dussan007 on February 12, 2015, 07:00:34 AM
Sorry, please disregard my post above.  I got MacBoot to work and ML is working properly so far.  Thanks.

Hey! could you explain what you did to make it work? I'm getting the exact same error.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 12, 2015, 07:08:54 AM
Sounds like you have to give 'sudo' permission via Terminal.

I've encountered this issue once before and can be resolved!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: TKF Productions on February 12, 2015, 07:33:56 AM
Hey! could you explain what you did to make it work? I'm getting the exact same error.

Thanks!

Well for me it was just that I did things out of order - probably same for you.  Watch this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN8LV15_cEA and follow all the steps closely, particularly around 2:50 as that is what tripped me up.  Ended up just deleting all the prior downloads and then re-downloading it and doing it in this exact order.  It worked.  Also I was using Canon - Scriptable but you need to use DSLR - Bootable.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: TKF Productions on February 12, 2015, 07:40:15 AM
I will come back with a fuller report on what is working/not working later in the week, but for now almost everything is working great - finally have peaking, zebras and waveform on my 70D, not to mention internal intervalometer and other really innovative things (like a neat picture overlay) and certainly not to mention RAW capability.  I can only get 720p at 23.97 on my SD, but I will buy a new faster SD tomorrow and get it as high as I can.

A couple things I have noticed so far is that I'm not seeing how to get mlv_play in order to playback the raw clips.  Also, for some reason I'm not seeing the audio levels in movie mode.

But this is amazing and I am having so much fun with it.  It can actually compete for my love again with my newer a7s.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: dussan007 on February 12, 2015, 07:52:35 AM
Well for me it was just that I did things out of order - probably same for you.  Watch this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN8LV15_cEA and follow all the steps closely, particularly around 2:50 as that is what tripped me up.  Ended up just deleting all the prior downloads and then re-downloading it and doing it in this exact order.  It worked.  Also I was using Canon - Scriptable but you need to use DSLR - Bootable.

Thank you very much! working great now :)
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 12, 2015, 08:11:17 AM
@TKF Productions: When recording in MLV and want Audio -- you need to go to Audio section within ML menu and scroll down to turn on MLV sound.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: andrewcrane on February 12, 2015, 08:16:13 AM
I've heard that the 70D can't internally write fast enough onto cards, regardless of the cards write speed, for continuous 1080 RAW. Would an external recorder, such as the Atomos Ninja Star, be a solution to this? Or are these devices only able to record ProRes?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 12, 2015, 09:07:32 AM
Guys I really urge you to have a look at the source code to see what's going on. To clear some things up:

Alpha builds have property request changes disabled as stated in first post. Therefore MLV recording is not available. Same for dot-tune, fullres-silent-pics.
Raw recording module works as it doesn't require property request changes. But that's not MLV.
The device tree has a "features" file. Look in there and you will see that audio features and a bunch of other stuff are disabled....
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: robert0 on February 12, 2015, 11:49:28 AM
Hi guys. I'm new here, so first THANK YOU to a1ex, nikfreak, nanomad and all others who participate in develop ML.
Nikfreak asked us for a table with temperatures displayed by ML and those stored in CR2. So here it is:
Code: [Select]
24 27
26 28
26 30
27 31
27 32
34 33
33 33
34 34
35 34
37 35
38 36
38 37
40 38
40 39
48 39
48 39
48 40
50 41
50 41
50 42
53 43
53 44
60 44
60 45
60 44
63 46
65 48
65 48
65 48
67 49
67 49
67 49
72 51
71 51
71 52
71 52
75 52
77 53
80 52
81 57
88 58
87 59
89 60
89 61
first column is readout from ML overlay, second is pulled from CR2 by exiftool.
Camera was in LiveView mode and time difference between first and last pics is 30 minutes.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 12, 2015, 12:07:41 PM
Hi robert0,

welcome and thank you for taking the time to provide the values.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: walter_schulz on February 12, 2015, 12:17:06 PM
If able provide values up to 60. If higher: Better.
Larger temperature range will give a more accurate data set.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: robert0 on February 12, 2015, 02:14:32 PM
OK, I made aditional read up. Up to 81°C by ML. It wan't go much higher (24°C amb. here) and I wan't go further too, since camera is 2 month old....  ;)
Original reply was updated with new numbers.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: walter_schulz on February 12, 2015, 02:18:30 PM
A warm welcome, robert0! ;-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Mallowsm on February 12, 2015, 02:31:41 PM
Hi, Congrats on the ML for the 70d been waiting for this a long time since i got mine, it works a treat. Ive been through the user guide as this is my first canon dslr so my first go at using magic lantern. How do you shoot raw video from the ML menu. Ive tried it all and im still recording H264.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: robert0 on February 12, 2015, 02:58:56 PM
Thank you wlater_shulz, warm to the letter  :)
Now maybe i will look like a nit-picker, but still: some apertures on ML overlay are slightly off:
Code: [Select]
5,0 4,9
6,3 6,4
7,1 7,0
9,0 9,1
10 9,9
13 12
20 19
29 28
first column is what shows LCD panel, and second ML overlay. These are just wrong values.
I tried this on Tamron AF 17-50 2.8 non VC and Canon 17-85 IS USM. Wrong values was same on both lenses.

And one question: what is -0.5° value on appended screenshot (top-left corner):
(http://i61.tinypic.com/oh0g0k.png)
When I turn on camera, this value it's not there, just time. But after a while it pop's out. Values what I noticed was =0.0° (green type, others was white), -0.5°, -1.0°, -2.0°
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: PanzerMamba on February 12, 2015, 03:08:02 PM
Ok, here is a test report from H2testw v1.4

Warning: Only 30591 of 30592 MByte tested.
Test finished without errors.
You can now delete the test files *.h2w or verify them again.
Writing speed: 62.6 MByte/s
Reading speed: 63.1 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4

Maybe problem is in file system (fat32, nfts, exfat) on SD or
allocation unit size (16KB, 32KB, 64KB?)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: TKF Productions on February 12, 2015, 03:14:58 PM
Hi, Congrats on the ML for the 70d been waiting for this a long time since i got mine, it works a treat. Ive been through the user guide as this is my first canon dslr so my first go at using magic lantern. How do you shoot raw video from the ML menu. Ive tried it all and im still recording H264.

Have you installed the RAW module?  Once you do that, then you have to actually go in the video menu and turn on RAW and set the resolution.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: TKF Productions on February 12, 2015, 03:21:12 PM
Hi guys. I'm new here, so first THANK YOU to a1ex, nikfreak, nanomad and all others who participate in develop ML.

Absolutely. Thank you to all those who develop Magic Lantern, including a1ex, nikfreak, nanomad, the fact that all this fantastic software is free is just amazing.  Thanks for all your hard work on this.  You guys are the best!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Mallowsm on February 12, 2015, 03:34:18 PM
How do i install the raw module? Again sorry if its staring me in the face
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: TKF Productions on February 12, 2015, 04:33:38 PM
How do i install the raw module? Again sorry if its staring me in the face

Scroll over to the Modules list in the ML menu (think it's like third from the right) and click on the one that says raw.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: walter_schulz on February 12, 2015, 04:36:20 PM
Maybe problem is in file system (fat32, nfts, exfat) on SD or
allocation unit size (16KB, 32KB, 64KB?)

NTFS won't run at all inside 70D. The cam will ask you to format it. Cards with 30/32 GByte will be formatted with FAT32 by the cam. I never heard of block size errors with Canon cams.
Alas, there has to be a cause for this.

Format the card using your cardreader. Insert in cam and format again. Back into cardreader again and run EOScard to make card bootable. Delete ML directory and Autoexec.bin (if any) and copy extracted alpha contents to card. Insert card into cam and startup. Results?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: dmilligan on February 12, 2015, 10:21:34 PM
These are just wrong values.
If you want to get picky, it's actually the Canon values that are wrong. The camera uses 1/8 stop increments internally, so 1/3 stop increments are actually approximated to the nearest 1/8 stop. So if you calculate based on the true aperture in 1/8 stop increments (which ML does), you will get the values you are seeing.

f-number = sqrt(2^AV)
ML                                   |  Canon
sqrt(2^(5 + 3/8)) = 6.44  |  sqrt(2^(5 + 1/3)) = 6.349
sqrt(2^(5 + 5/8)) = 7.03  |  sqrt(2^(5 + 2/3)) = 7.12
sqrt(2^(6 + 3/8)) = 9.11  |  sqrt(2^(6 + 1/3)) = 8.97
and so forth...

The same goes for shutter speed. So, if you don't believe me that Canon is lying to you, then set your camera on 30 second exposure and time it with a stop watch.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: mattdutiel on February 12, 2015, 11:21:58 PM
First and foremost, thank you so very much for all the hard work everyone involved has put in!

I have downloaded and successfully installed Alpha3 and will do a full report later on what does/doesn't work...

But while reading though this whole forum, I am left wondering the same thing as andrewcrane...

Quote
I've heard that the 70D can't internally write fast enough onto cards, regardless of the cards write speed, for continuous 1080 RAW. Would an external recorder, such as the Atomos Ninja Star, be a solution to this? Or are these devices only able to record ProRes?

It appeared that people seem to say that the card writer speed is not fast enough... is this true? if so could someone explain how older cameras would be able to output at the correct write speeds and not a camera that is seemingly newer? (i am just not sure i understand the process behind writing raw v. compressed and how fast the write speed needs to be...)

any info or a point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 12, 2015, 11:30:54 PM
Write speed needed in RAW/MLV:
Vertical pixel * horizontal pixel * bit depth * frame rate / 8 -> Byte/s

Bit depth for Canon RAW is 14 bit. Division by 8 to get bytes instead of bits.

Example
1280 * 720 * 14 * 24 / 8 -> 38707200 Byte/s -> 36.9 MByte/s
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: mattdutiel on February 13, 2015, 01:29:45 AM
thank you Walter Schulz, that definitely helped.

Quote
Write speed needed in RAW/MLV:
Vertical pixel * horizontal pixel * bit depth * frame rate / 8 -> Byte/s

Bit depth for Canon RAW is 14 bit. Division by 8 to get bytes instead of bits.

Example
1280 * 720 * 14 * 24 / 8 -> 38707200 Byte/s -> 36.9 MByte/s

So the card write speeds seem to be just above 40MByte/s... (based on things that I have seen other people posting in this form from benchmark tests...)

so then there is no way that full 1920x1080 RAW/MLV will be possible (based on hardware limitations) on the 70d?

if so thats a bummer, but I was really the most excited about audio features that will come with a later release...

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: pa0los on February 13, 2015, 09:24:48 AM
I don't believe anyone answered my question.
Is this to be expected that we can't crank up the FPS?
I tried it only with H264 - maybe it applies only for RAW?

I tried the FPS override with Alpha3.
Couldn't get this to work with FPS higher than 25 - real FPS was always showing 25.0
Seems to be working only when reducing FPS value.
Is this normal?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 13, 2015, 10:01:25 AM
paolos read 1st post. it's noted in changelog.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Filip on February 13, 2015, 01:58:38 PM
Sorry about the repeat question but is it normal for the intervalometer to not be working in M mode?

If not can you let me know if there is a specific way for me to share more information about the issue (sorry I'm pretty new to ML).

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: robert0 on February 13, 2015, 02:46:37 PM
If you want to get picky, it's actually the Canon values that are wrong...

OK, thank you for explanation. It's not a big deal. I can live with that.
BTW 30s exposure took 32s  :o

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: FireM on February 13, 2015, 03:45:07 PM
ok, after i tested it some days, i found a Problem with starting Magic Lantern.

If i turn the 70D on, it happens, that sometimes Magic Lantern doesn't react und doesn't started.
I have to turn it 1-5 times on and off to get it work. Mostly it happens, if i turn the camera in Movie Mode on,
but sometimes it also happens after waking up from standby.

Haven´t saw a similar problem until now, am i the only one? Or is this a know bug ?

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 13, 2015, 04:05:04 PM
FireM I never encountered your problems and I am switching on / off cam a dozen of times while testing.
Try to reproduce it and note down when it exactly happens.
It might be that your cam crashes or the display gets powered off but the cam is still active? Any crash logs on your sdcard? Next time it happens try also to remove battery and retry. Maybe also reformat your card and start from scratch to see if it happens again...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Rico2007 on February 13, 2015, 05:25:32 PM
I have the serial number 5302200xxxx.

ML nuisance not install on my 70d, why ???
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Abe on February 13, 2015, 07:10:57 PM
Also did a temperature tests.
A 34 min time frame, 1 shot per minute.

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Did not insist on higher temperatures, the back of the camera was getting warm.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: FireM on February 13, 2015, 07:30:29 PM
ok nikfreak, i will test some things, and wrote my resoluts down
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on February 13, 2015, 08:40:46 PM
I have the serial number 5302200xxxx.

ML nuisance not install on my 70d, why ???

Please read.....
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg140034#msg140034
Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: X-STATE on February 14, 2015, 05:42:12 PM
who knows?
how to deal with hot pixels when shooting video RAW?

OK, I think I have this problem
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5614.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: slimbot on February 15, 2015, 12:33:36 AM
Great job on the 70d ML alpha 3 so far! When I was testing the new version Alpha3, I could not dial my exposure compensation on the scroll wheel on the back of my camera to increase or decrease the exposure values in A Mode.
Anyone else had that problem? on my 1980's lcd screen, it says L. I guess it's locked? I never had this problem until I installed the Alpha 3. Is there a way to unlock it?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: alexoki on February 15, 2015, 11:12:31 AM
Apologies if this has been stated elsewhere but I cant seem to find a definitive answer. What is the maximum recording resolution in 25p in 16.9 aspect ratio (or close to 16.9) and how many seconds continuous recording.
Also anymore raw vid samples from the 70d especially showing skintones?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Abe on February 15, 2015, 11:16:47 AM
Apologies if this has been stated elsewhere but I cant seem to find a definitive answer. What is the maximum recording resolution in 25p in 16.9 aspect ratio (or close to 16.9) and how many seconds continuous recording.

Do a search on the forums, there are plenty of threads for these questions.
The speed should be the same as the 6D.
For example have a look at this post: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6215.msg136347#msg136347 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6215.msg136347#msg136347)
720p should be Ok (provided your SD-Card allows to write at 40mb or more)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: FireM on February 16, 2015, 12:59:57 PM
Here the results after test some thinks:

I can reproduce the error after change from M to AV Mode, but the 70D have to be in Movie Mode, i didn’t not remember that this happened in photo mode too. In Movie Mode it happened  every time.

 60% percent of my tests it also occurred after change the Raw Resolution and Ratio from 720p to 1824x776. But Sometimes everything is ok, i don’t know why? Once, i get an error from ML, but it was to short to read it. Yesterday i new install ML and until now, Magic Lantern only once had problems with starting up. After 3 times restarting the camera it never happens again.

hope it helps a bit. When i should check some thinks just tell me, so i give my best to help.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: crirus on February 16, 2015, 03:55:49 PM
Hello

thanks for great work, nikfreak and the team working on this should have got the donation nanomad received.

I have a question: will be possible to keep the screen on while plugging in USB or HDMI?

I know DSLR Controller did this fine, is it possible to have the touch screen on for HDMI monitor too?

Thank you.
Cristian
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on February 16, 2015, 08:02:35 PM
Plugging in to USB, keeps LCD screen display.  That is what DLSR controller app does.
Plugging into HDMI LCD goes off.  DSLR controller app does not use HDMI.
Turn Wi-Fi on, and movie mode is disabled.  DSLR controller app does not use Canon wifi.
This is all Canon s/w not magic lantern.

Perhaps wifi via usb adapter/router, I recall that TP-Link is basically a router on the usb port.
DSLR controller has its variant of the same, with some kind of stick on the usb. 
What ever you use, ensure your usb wifi device has power, because the Canon usb provides no power.

ML with a 3X loupe provides great functionality, as it enlarges ML on the LCD screen, and its more than enough to check focus.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: TomJ on February 18, 2015, 05:40:55 PM
Another overheat shutdown. Running vid, manual, HD. After about 15mins up-time. With a non-ML card, no overheats. I understand this is a known issue, just FYI with latest.

Just totally jazzed to have ML, I really never thought it would happen while I had the 70D, that I'd be onto another body before it was alpha even. Too cool to have it at all!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: betonven on February 19, 2015, 08:02:36 AM
Hello guys!

Thanks for doing these awesome things for us newbies to play with. I have a (maybe stupid) question. I had ML in my T3i Rebel, mainly becuase I wanted to use the HDR bracketing tool (I need to take as many pictures as possible with variable exposures in order to merge to hdr manually).

Now that I'm also using a 70D, I installed the alpha 3, but I cannot locate this option. Is it missing, or I am the one missing something?  :o

Thanks in advance (and really, please don't judge me, I'm as a newbie as it gets..!) :'(
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: walter_schulz on February 19, 2015, 08:07:40 AM
Shoot tab -> Advanced bracket
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: betonven on February 19, 2015, 08:13:18 AM
That's where I was looking, but I only have three options: Intervalometer, Motion detect and Shoot preferences.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Abe on February 19, 2015, 12:47:59 PM
That's where I was looking, but I only have three options: Intervalometer, Motion detect and Shoot preferences.

Some functions are not yet present/enabled that might explain why you don't have the bracketing.
According to the Wiki, this option should be in the same menu as the Intervallometer.
Probably will have to wait for now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: betonven on February 19, 2015, 06:15:14 PM
I guess that should be the case, I'm just confused as I don't see that in the "not working" list in the first page. If somebody knows that for sure, please share!  :D

Also, I know I'm running off-topic, but if anybody could redirect me to a link about how to write your own script to do what HDR bracketing would do (program a series of specific exposures in terms of shutter speed variations that would be triggered with one press of the shoot button), I would totally appreciate the help. Thanks in advance!  8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: betonven on February 19, 2015, 08:40:11 PM
The picoC scripts operation is also not included in this version?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: kubodhi on February 22, 2015, 05:52:09 AM
Girlfriend just picked up a SL1 and I saw that nikfreak had replied on that forum with interest in possibly working on that port after the 70D.  Super happy that there's been progress here on the 70D.  Is there anything specifically that the community can help with as far as current roadblocks, data collection needs, etc?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Mr.Click on February 23, 2015, 07:21:44 AM
Is there a posibility to activate AF Field Expansion and Spot AF with ML? This are 7D Features, which I hope, are may be only not activated by Original Firmware from Canon.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: bben83 on February 24, 2015, 10:31:25 PM
Tank you so much for your job !

Overlays
-Zebras: ____Not tested
-Focus Peak: ____Not tested
-MagicZoom: ____Not tested
- ....
Movie
-BitRate: ____Not tested
-FPS Override: ____ Not tested
-.....
Shoot
-Intervalometer: ____OK
-Motion Detect: ____not OK (Only works in exposition detection mode, Frame difference is not OK)
-.....
Included Modules
- Raw_rec: ____Not tested
- autoexpo: ____Not tested
- ....
Other issues:
_______________________________________
....
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: craiggbrown on February 24, 2015, 11:02:18 PM
Hello, I just bought a 70D and I followed the instructions to install ML to the tee and it did not work for me. I don't get the boot-disk displayed on screen. Is there any other way to get this to work? I guess I have unqualified cam. Any idea of what people like me can do?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: UWP on February 25, 2015, 12:42:36 AM
Hi there!

I had a 650D for some years now, but the image-counter crossed the 200k line so I was thinking about a new cam. Before my decision I read about 70D development was starting so I bought a 70D. And yes: it works! Great job, it was even easier than the start procedure on the 650D! I know it's an alpha release. But maybe there's time for wishes? What I mostly do is bracketing & dual ISO. I couldn't find both of'em in the February Alpha 3 release, so I guess, it's in the pipe on a later date? If it gets faster, I'm willing to test it for bug fixing! Of course the other stuff is nice too, but I normally shoot HDR pics, MagicLantern's got specific stuff for all of us. Or are the bracketing menus hidden somewhere? And the dual ISO image stuff? At least I couldn't find it...

Anyway: great work, I haven't seen any problems yet while playing around with it! Strange: the module for integrated picture view in the filemanager cannot handle jpegs? When I try to view them, I only get the binary code of the JPEG on the screen. The docs don't mention JPG, only the raw formats. Why? I tought JPEG should be easiest?

I'm really excited what will come! Haha, in some stores they try to convince me to Nikon or Sony. I told them, I'll switch if they got similar features like MagicLantern. Almost every vendor did know about MagicLantern and they haven't been amused. Canon should spent money in this project, it seems they get a alot of "side money" from this here!

Thanx very much for this exciting tool!

UWP
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: vfero on February 25, 2015, 05:12:10 AM
@betonven : I've asked this about advanced bracketing and i had no answer. I guess only time will tell...

Vince
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 25, 2015, 07:55:22 AM
Hello, I just bought a 70D and I followed the instructions to install ML to the tee and it did not work for me. I don't get the boot-disk displayed on screen. Is there any other way to get this to work? I guess I have unqualified cam. Any idea of what people like me can do?

Wait just like some of us do... which is nice!  ;D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: tr3m0bil on February 25, 2015, 07:57:13 AM
Hi,

I'm one of the early adopters of the 70D (septembre 2013) and I'm (not so patientely) waiting to be able to test it. Any date for a compatible version ?

Tr3
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 25, 2015, 08:57:26 AM
....bracketing & dual ISO......so I guess, it's in the pipe on a later date?

Yes, exactly. I did some first tests indoors and posted 'em to the appropriate topic:
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7402.msg140471#msg140471

I'm one of the early adopters of the 70D (septembre 2013) and I'm (not so patientely) waiting to be able to test it. Any date for a compatible version ?

It's done when it's done. First let's get the one in my hands somewhat stable and afterwards I will do it blindly for the early adopters...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: tr3m0bil on February 25, 2015, 10:36:31 AM
Thanks for your answer. It was just to know if you have a forecast to release it. We are some waiting to be able to provide you valuable feedback.

Thanks for your work
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 25, 2015, 10:41:16 AM
I already spent several hours and prepared to blindly maintain it but there will be no release until I feel we are ready to do so:

https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/src/e0db13d113dbe5f35c10b7b3fe5e659cb6a6cdfa/platform/unmaintained/70D_SLAVE.111/?at=unified-70D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: UWP on February 25, 2015, 10:52:37 AM
Yes, exactly. I did some first tests indoors and posted 'em to the appropriate topic:
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7402.msg140471#msg140471


Quite impressive! Is it in your "unmaintained" version? And: only the dual ISO or bracketing too?

Thanx!

UWP
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on February 25, 2015, 11:03:59 AM
@UWP: read 1st post.

some features need "properties enabled" to work like advanced bracketing, MLV recording, dual iso, dot tune etc...
None of the public alpha builds has them enabled. So some features either don't work or are auto-hidden and you won't be able to see them in ML menu.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: sergey on February 25, 2015, 01:14:49 PM
Good day!
cameras have not yet, so the question :
What is the maximum resolution    in mode
Shoot    -Intervalometer: ____OK       Silent Picture  -- on    ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: UWP on February 25, 2015, 05:27:23 PM
@UWP: read 1st post.

some features need "properties enabled" to work like advanced bracketing, MLV recording, dual iso, dot tune etc...
None of the public alpha builds has them enabled. So some features either don't work or are auto-hidden and you won't be able to see them in ML menu.

I read it. And there's absolutely no way to "unhide" them, not even for testing purposes? ;)
Ok, what you wanna say is: it can brick the cam? I'm willing to test it anyway...

Thanx!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on February 25, 2015, 05:48:09 PM
I read it. And there's absolutely no way to "unhide" them, not even for testing purposes? ;)
Ok, what you wanna say is: it can brick the cam? I'm willing to test it anyway...

Thanx!

Hi UWP,

It is best to respect the developer's process and plan.  Please do not push and pressure someone who is doing a great and wonderful thing for our community, and for free.  If you posses the skills, everything you need is out there to brick your camera all on your own.  In the meantime, please show gratitude by being patient and respecting nikfreak's methods.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 25, 2015, 05:55:01 PM
I read it. And there's absolutely no way to "unhide" them, not even for testing purposes? ;)
Ok, what you wanna say is: it can brick the cam? I'm willing to test it anyway...

Imagine standing outside a mine field and telling the sweepers in it to jump to the next patch.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 25, 2015, 07:12:40 PM
Hahaha @Walter Schulz -- best joke of the day!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: UWP on February 25, 2015, 08:31:34 PM
Okok, I got the message, I'll wait...:)

I'm only in a hurry because in 2 weeks I wanted to use bracketing & dual ISO during my holidays. But of course: take your time! I surely know that good software needs time! I can only repeat myself: thank you for this wonderful piece of software!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: muc2810 on February 28, 2015, 12:01:57 AM
Hello everyone,

first of all thank you for your hard work on this port, special thanks to the dev's. I'm new to DSLR-Video-Shooting. I'm just figuring out what ml can do for me, an that's a lot. Thanks.

now the Problem:

Magic Zoom does not work. I can start it with ZoomIn(+), the window apears dosn't matter what size, it even dosn't matter what position, what magnification and what i use for focus confirm. The bars don't get green when justed, the splitcreen dosn't move.

is there a special thing to make it work ? Or is my brain not working.
Best greetz from munich/germany
Muc2810
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Abe on February 28, 2015, 07:30:14 PM
Is there a special thing to make it work ? Or is my brain not working.


Got the same thing here. What I do is as long as I can see the "zoomed" image I'm able to tell if it's in focus or not. Yep we don't have the green bars (at least the two of us) but that's ok truth be told. In my case I use a Tamron lens, did not try with a canon lens to know if I have the green bars or not. (will test soon and will post it)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: muc2810 on February 28, 2015, 08:10:12 PM
I'm using the Canon EF-S 18-55mm 1:3.5-5.6 IS STM. It's the Kit-Lens i got with the 70D-Body. I tried in Manual-mode, manual focus.

I see in the box/window if it's focused or not, but no green bars. Using the split-screen i can focus, but the two halfs of the box/window do not "move" to fit each other.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on March 03, 2015, 02:49:13 PM
Updated! See post after this....
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on March 04, 2015, 12:43:35 PM
Quote
After some excessive play with bracketing & dual ISO I encountered no problems at all. Which, for dual ISO, is even better than the 650d version, because I had lots of trouble with dual ISO and 650d (Errors and afterwards no dual ISO, had to remove battery for reset etc.). In the 70d I can switch it on (via RAW) and off several times while shooting in between and it didn't show errors at all. Very, very good! Amazing stuff!

Thanx again, I'll go on testing over the weekend!

Anyone else eager to try the build I prepared (see also my last post)? I don't want to make it available to the public before it has been intensively tested. That said I am not really after specific tests - you should just have enough time to test and try out as much as possible..
Bonus: The build includes dot-tune and full-resolution silent pictures as well as mlv recording, too.
Enough for now...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: RafQue on March 04, 2015, 03:08:36 PM
Anyone else eager to try the build I prepared (see also my last post)? I don't want to make it available to the public before it has been intensively tested. That said I am not really after specific tests - you should just have enough time to test and try out as much as possible..
Bonus: The build includes dot-tune and full-resolution silent pictures as well as mlv recording, too.

Hi Nikfreak!

I would love to help out, but it seems I have the wrong firmware on my 70D... I can't get ML installed.
Aren't there any volunteers who have a working build on their 70D over here?!?!

RafQue
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Abe on March 04, 2015, 08:53:25 PM
@nikfreak Ill have some days before me to test if you want. I'm not yet used with dual ISO and bracketing but can have a look at those using the documentation.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on March 04, 2015, 09:09:57 PM
Ok, enough for now. No PMs regarding test builds plz.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: RafQue on March 04, 2015, 11:57:19 PM
Ok, enough for now. No PMs regarding test builds plz.

Hehe.. been flooded with enthusiasm Nikfreak?   :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on March 05, 2015, 07:43:14 AM
Yes max number of testers I was searching for has been reached.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: nikfreak on March 05, 2015, 07:33:26 PM
Just found out that "edmac raw slurping" (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10443.0) works on 70D, too. Did any of the previous alpha testers encounter pink frames while raw recording? Remember: I don't use raw related video functions at all on this cam so I can't judge if it's worth putting into next update....
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Chele on March 06, 2015, 06:00:51 AM
I have been following this thread since the beginning.  I am truly impressed by those able to help.  Waiting, eagerly and impatiently, to be able to install ML in my 70D.  Thanks!!!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: kekorr on March 06, 2015, 12:07:41 PM
+1 go! nikfreak thanks for your work
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: rhenderous on March 06, 2015, 08:35:53 PM
Trying to read through all of the posts. Just a quick question, is Magic Lantern ready to be used for the Canon EOS 70D to make short films with or is it still having problems? I saw the Magic Lantern in action and it makes all of the videos shot look like a movie

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Abe on March 06, 2015, 11:30:17 PM
Trying to read through all of the posts. Just a quick question, is Magic Lantern ready to be used for the Canon EOS 70D to make short films with or is it still having problems? I saw the Magic Lantern in action and it makes all of the videos shot look like a movie

Thanks!

You can use the current alpha which is quite nice, and the raw_rec module will allow you to shoot some raw clips.
You won't have sound yet, but the video is really cool!
I would not do any professional work out of it at the moment, but some really nice clips can be shot if you know what you're doing.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: muc2810 on March 07, 2015, 08:27:29 AM
unfortunatly sound is half the movie and you can't do everything with an external sound recorder. even the sound of the camera is poor, you may need it for syncronisation. hope it will be invented soon.

once again: thank you so much for your work on this port
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: cluber77 on March 07, 2015, 01:12:21 PM
I'm' sorry if this answered or if my question Or if the answer to my question  is rhetorical, is there any way to get 1080p with 60frames video recording in 70d with this ML at a later time?

thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: grey on March 07, 2015, 01:52:25 PM
I'm' sorry if this answered or if my question Or if the answer to my question  is rhetorical, is there any way to get 1080p with 60frames video recording in 70d with this ML at a later time?

thanks

it's impossible. At all.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: granan13 on March 07, 2015, 02:52:10 PM
I wouldn't say impossible; a few years before shooting in RAW with ML was considered as impossible and "Would it be possible to shoot in raw with ML ?" had the same type of categorical response.

It's not possible yet, and no one is trying to achieve it yet, but one day, who knows ? Don't be categorical, the people working on ML are doing an amazing job and I'm sure that in the future they'll achieve things they think impossible right now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Teran0vA on March 07, 2015, 11:01:04 PM
I wouldn't say impossible; a few years before shooting in RAW with ML was considered as impossible and "Would it be possible to shoot in raw with ML ?" had the same type of categorical response.

It's not possible yet, and no one is trying to achieve it yet, but one day, who knows ? Don't be categorical, the people working on ML are doing an amazing job and I'm sure that in the future they'll achieve things they think impossible right now.

No amount of programing can change hardware limits. Your example is wrong because shooting raw is only using the sensor differently than originally programed, not improving it. It was always capable of doing it, just not programed to do it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: granan13 on March 08, 2015, 12:42:17 AM
I'm surely being too much optimistic, it will probably not happen, but even with hardware limits there could be solutions to get over it, they have not been found yet, and maybe they will never be. Hardware limits can be overridden; no jack output on 60D ? ML team found a solution. Of course this and the 60fps issue are totally different, but the fact is, even if all things considered i agree with your point, I'm just not as categorical about an uncompromising impossibility.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: grey on March 08, 2015, 09:06:58 AM
I'm surely being too much optimistic, it will probably not happen, but even with hardware limits there could be solutions to get over it, they have not been found yet, and maybe they will never be. Hardware limits can be overridden; no jack output on 60D ? ML team found a solution. Of course this and the 60fps issue are totally different, but the fact is, even if all things considered i agree with your point, I'm just not as categorical about an uncompromising impossibility.

AV output via USB connector always was in all Canon VDSLR. Redirecting audio data to USB connector is matter of programming.

Reading sensor at 1/3 of vertical resolution at more than 30 FPS is impossible. This is hardware limit that can't be overridden.

BTW sensor always outputs RAW data. No matter photo or video. ML just giving you a chance to write this data to memory card.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: jcdu11600 on March 08, 2015, 09:49:24 AM
I'm looking for the magic lantern's parameters in the 70D to rec video with a remote.
I bought a LEXAR 2000x 64Go but i can't rec over 7 sec in raw mode
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha3 11th February)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 08, 2015, 10:08:23 AM
Waste of money. There is no Canon DSLR supporting UHS-II. 70D SD-card slot supports write rates up to about 40 MByte/s -> around 720p25 in RAW.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 09, 2015, 11:47:29 AM
updated first post. Read changelog before you continue.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: deusex1 on March 09, 2015, 02:13:13 PM
Nikfreak, thanks for the update man, you are the best!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: crirus on March 09, 2015, 03:43:10 PM
Anything related to leaving the screen on while USB/HDMI is pluged in?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: Smarty Pants on March 09, 2015, 10:21:28 PM
1. all versions so far have installed on my 70D without issue
2. brilliant work nikfreak and friends
3. wish people would stop the inane chatter on this thread (18 pages of crap so far)  (eg. walter shulz and co., you buy a fast card so when transferring video to your computer it doesn't take 3 hours but hey you know everything it seems, keep this thread to ML 70D and chat somewhere else please)

Testing RAW 1280x720 , default settings, manual exposure, AF with 50mm f1.8
Both RAW and MLV record, MLV the first time takes a while for the 281Mb file to write and also displays that a static image only uses about 14Mb/s(normally hovers around 38.3)(landscape HD RAW video might be doable? if these are correct values).

Both have the following bug:
Whilst recording press AF-ON to auto-focus, snaps into focus, from this point onwards autofocus will no longer work and ML shutter speed in ML shows: N/A, -214748364
You now also cannot change the shutter speed or aperture on the normal display until you restart the camera(flick to photo and back again) - the liveview exposure simulation still works but lags.

Hope this helps.

Any chance you could enable the Audio menu so we can stop the screen going off when you plug in headphones in the next version?

thanks nik
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 09, 2015, 10:48:44 PM

Both have the following bug:
Whilst recording press AF-ON to auto-focus, snaps into focus, from this point onwards autofocus will no longer work and ML shutter speed in ML shows: N/A, -214748364
You now also cannot change the shutter speed or aperture on the normal display until you restart the camera(flick to photo and back again) - the liveview exposure simulation still works but lags.

Hope this helps.

Any chance you could enable the Audio menu so we can stop the screen going off when you plug in headphones in the next version?

thanks nik

Did you have that bug in previous versions? I only tested myself touch-af while video recording.
Regarding audio: last time i tried was weeks ago but it was crashing. Ofc I will have a look into it again.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: vfero on March 09, 2015, 11:50:15 PM
Been testing ALPHA04 for advanced bracketing : Really strange noise at each shot. The noise is like another click just after the real one ( sounds like scissors... )

Don't know if it can be dangerous, and don't know if it can help

Here's a video link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ekvB0_NCFF8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ekvB0_NCFF8)

Cheers,
Vfero
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: Smarty Pants on March 10, 2015, 12:24:31 AM
sorry: i don't remember it happening before so i don't remember testing it and i've deleted the test content so can't check now

AF is disabled after the first go during record and won't come back when recording has stopped but,
if you let it go into power save and press start to reactivate you get AF and shutter speed/aperture control back again in liveview (with other weird and strange numbers in ML shutter speed like "..N 12"..5s)
if you then record you only get 1 go at AF again
manually moving to MF makes no difference

re audio: whenever is good for you

i've also noticed in this version that the menu doesn't flicker so much or disappear so quickly, if you keep pressing an arrow it stays most of the time, seems the RAW menu is the least stable and photo mode is the most.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: Glassed on March 10, 2015, 01:26:03 AM
Hello !

Just tryed the Alpha4 , the camera bricked for a moment and threw a "error 80" , had to remove the battery for a few seconds to get it back to life.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: rotaryman on March 10, 2015, 03:00:41 AM
Smarty Pants: I'm having the same shutter speed issue. This didn't appear before in previous builds. Shutter speeds drop to -2.44950 and so on and so forth and are unchangeable. Also still no confirmation on Magic Zoom.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 09th March)
Post by: Joos on March 10, 2015, 04:00:55 AM
thank you very much for your work, use ML a long time, even with the 550d. But do not you think that the version 4 is already quite stable, and you can add support for other versions of canon 70d ? very hard to wait )))
sorry for my english
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 10, 2015, 08:26:25 AM
Been testing ALPHA04 for advanced bracketing : Really strange noise at each shot. The noise is like another click just after the real one ( sounds like scissors... )

Checked the video and updated the first post with a new download link which disables bracketing. Everybody please download that and delete the old one until I can reproduce. Please check the reported AF issues while recording video with this new download.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 01:51:56 PM
Checked the video and updated the first post with a new download link which disables bracketing. Everybody please download that and delete the old one until I can reproduce. Please check the reported AF issues while recording video with this new download.

I looked at that video, and nothing wrong with sounds. Tried AB on my 6D and 70D, and sound identically.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 02:00:12 PM
BTW. Nikfreak, i have 6D, EOS M, 500D and 70D. All with ML. If you need any help in comparison of modules on several different cameras, i can help.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 02:08:13 PM
Ha, i got it. for some reason in AB mode drive is set to silent mode, and this produce this "strange" sound. Sitting and trying AB mode. It's work perfect.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 02:09:32 PM
Sorry for my english. I'm study it only in school.  ::)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 02:11:17 PM
On 6D AB also use silent shutter.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 10, 2015, 02:37:28 PM
Hey grey thank you for reporting your findings. As I understood 6D produces same sound by default and you have to turn off silent shooting to get it working?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 03:16:45 PM
Hey grey thank you for reporting your findings. As I understood 6D produces same sound by default and you have to turn off silent shooting to get it working?

NO. By default AB turns drive mode to silent, i think it's for less blurring caused by camera shake via shutter actuating. Camera produces this "strange" sound in silent mode, especially in LV. So sound on video is quite normal. I have same sound on 6D. And if you turn drive to Silent, and try to shoor via LV you get same sound. Summary: AB in yesterday Alpha works fine.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 03:19:13 PM
If you look at top display when AB taking pictures, you will see  "S" symbol appear near drive mode. 6d and 70d, no matter.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 03:21:19 PM
My 500D has no Silent drive mode, so it takes AB pictures with "normal" sound, like sound of shooting in LV on normal drive mode of 70D or 6D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Frarike on March 10, 2015, 04:27:30 PM
Do I just swap all the files to change to newer version and update the firmware?

And thanks for the work nikfreak
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 04:37:58 PM
No need to update firmware. Only thing is changing when you "updating" firmware is enabling bootdisk flag in camera.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: vfero on March 10, 2015, 08:08:51 PM
@grey : so this noise is not something dangerous? It would be my day then :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 10:00:12 PM
@grey : so this noise is not something dangerous? It would be my day then :)

No. Nothing to worry.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 10:04:25 PM
Level indicator work only few seconds, then it freeze and enabling or disabling it in ML menu don't work until i restart camera. 

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 10:10:07 PM
AF not work after first record in RAW. No matter RAW or MLV. Only camera restart help to solve this problem. I have same issue on my 6D. So it's not bug of this Alpha release.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 10, 2015, 10:30:52 PM
To Nikfreak. Why in silent picture mode resolution is too low (Camera in Photo mode. In Video mode all OK)? Try it on 6D. In both modes resolution identical.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 11, 2015, 07:00:46 AM
The maximum average shutter speed for FRSP is about 1/15th or so...

Either close down the iris or use an ND filter.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 11, 2015, 07:39:52 AM
AF not work after first record in RAW. No matter RAW or MLV. Only camera restart help to solve this problem. I have same issue on my 6D. So it's not bug of this Alpha release.

Need to verify myself this evening again. a1ex created a pull request for frsp which I wanna try out first.
I cannot judge if the AF behaviour is to be considered "normal". Sounds like a bug to me if it only exists on 6D / 70D. Can you confirm @grey / @Audionut?

To Nikfreak. Why in silent picture mode resolution is too low (Camera in Photo mode. In Video mode all OK)? Try it on 6D. In both modes resolution identical.

Also lemme check that one in the evening.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 11, 2015, 08:36:32 AM
Need to verify myself this evening again. a1ex created a pull request for frsp which I wanna try out first.

When i asking about AF issue on 6D, i got an answer that this is about some hacks that disables part of canon LV, and AF too. The only one advice given to me is to use MF. But on 70D we got very good AF. It's very sad if we can't use it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 11, 2015, 08:44:13 AM
Uhhh thanx for clarifying. While also having owned a 6D I never noticed the behaviour due to having almost no personal interest in video recording...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 11, 2015, 08:48:45 AM
I'm afraid there is no clarifying but rather some confusion ...
grey, are you referring to this reply? http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3904.msg139243#msg139243
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 11, 2015, 09:07:29 AM
Yes, Walter. This post, and post on previous page of that topic.  I try to turn off extra hacks in MLV menu, but in this case i record few seconds less, than usual. AF works, but with price of short recording time. It's sad.  :-[ 

About MLV and AF.
If extra hacks on, AF turns on 1 time on first take. After that to activate AF needed to restart camers/ change mode photo/video.
If extra hacks off, AF works like usual, but record time is little less.
If enabled in Canon menu, Servo AF works all the time, no matter on or off extra hacks. But framing box is not dislayed.

AF= AF by button pressing(AF-ON or half shutter)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 11, 2015, 10:16:22 AM
If extra hacks off, AF works like usual, but record time is little less.

This should be off by default to avoid confusion.
And @grey please try to stay active on the forum. I will need testers like you.

@All: Even tried out dualiso or dot-tune? Any feedback?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Sky_cleaner on March 11, 2015, 11:45:40 AM
Tried to update firmware several times... No succes :-(    Wait for next alpha.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Mr.Click on March 11, 2015, 01:31:00 PM
Dot Tune works fine & Dual ISO too  :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Makadamia on March 11, 2015, 04:00:47 PM
@Sky_cleaner: This won't help, you have to wait for beta or RTM of ML for 70d - like me. See 1st post.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: X-STATE on March 11, 2015, 04:11:54 PM
whether to run dual ISO in the video mode?
This function works on the 5dm3.
there is a possibility in other models?

dot-tune - works good for my two lenses
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 11, 2015, 04:21:56 PM
whether to run dual ISO in the video mode?
This function works on the 5dm3.
there is a possibility in other models?

The only nightly builds *not* having this option are those for 50D and 7D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Abe on March 11, 2015, 08:57:28 PM
I'm having some overexposure issue with Silent pictures at full resolution. It's way over-exposed. Like by 4 stops.
The simple resolution works perfectly though.

The audio/mlv recording worked but not in all the tests.
For some of the clips, I got a valid .wav file that I could use, and for the others, a 1kb wav file and an error on the 70D indicating the audio being skipped.

Don't know if somebody has the same issue?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 12, 2015, 12:52:21 AM
I'm having some overexposure issue with Silent pictures at full resolution. It's way over-exposed. Like by 4 stops.
The simple resolution works perfectly though.

The audio/mlv recording worked but not in all the tests.
For some of the clips, I got a valid .wav file that I could use, and for the others, a 1kb wav file and an error on the 70D indicating the audio being skipped.

Don't know if somebody has the same issue?

In FRSP minimal shutter speed is about 1/15 of sec. No matter if you select faster shutter.  If i'm not right let Walter or Nikfreak correct me.

In build from 10 of march was MLV sound? Or you did not listen to the request from Nikfreak?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 12, 2015, 02:16:54 AM
As previously stated... Fastest shutter speed regarding FRSP is about 1/15th and you can either close down the iris or use ND.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Abe on March 12, 2015, 10:04:21 AM
In build from 10 of march was MLV sound? Or you did not listen to the request from Nikfreak?

There is the sound in the latest alpha posted by nikfreak. I'm not quite sure of what you mean?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 12, 2015, 03:28:08 PM
There is the sound in the latest alpha posted by nikfreak. I'm not quite sure of what you mean?


Sorry, i think there is no MLV Sound in last public alpha.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 12, 2015, 04:06:29 PM
To avoid further confusion:

Default modules makefile includes indeed mlv_sound + mlv_rec and mlv_play

I was on a rush and forgot to exclude them in one build I published.
So mlv_sound is inbuilt but not yet supported (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg141945#msg141945)

There's no need to experiment with sound until you see a hint for sound support in the changelogs on 1st page.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Harrison on March 12, 2015, 05:27:01 PM
So I'm new to magic lantern and this will be my first time downloading it to my 70d. If it's an Alpha version does that mean that there are still a lot of issues with the program for my camera and should I wait to download a more complete version. Or is it completely fine? Thanks.
-Canon Lover
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 12, 2015, 06:58:56 PM
If it's an Alpha version does that mean that there are still a lot of issues with the program for my camera
Yes
and should I wait to download a more complete version.
Depends. Keep in mind: If it breaks, you can keep both pieces.

Or is it completely fine?
Number of bricked cameras until now: Zero. Doesn't mean there is a guarantee it will *not* break your cam. It's alpha, after all.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: donjames150 on March 12, 2015, 07:53:50 PM
Quote from Harrison

"So I'm new to magic lantern and this will be my first time downloading it to my 70d. If it's an Alpha version does that mean that there are still a lot of issues with the program for my camera and should I wait to download a more complete version. Or is it completely fine? Thanks.
-Canon Lover"

I've been running Alpha versions of Magic Lantern for 2 years on 2 different cameras (7D and 650D). They lock up on occaision, both of them. You just have to remember to take out your battery and put it back in, then it will be fine. I am planning on buying a 70D as soon as the HDR video function is working and I would not hesitate to install magic lantern on it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Eli Kaliski on March 13, 2015, 04:07:11 AM
How can I turn off AGC? I'm using a Canon 70d (brand new) and a Røde Videomic.

-Eli
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 13, 2015, 05:08:41 AM
Read cam's manual.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: cluber77 on March 13, 2015, 08:20:56 PM
At what point the alpha become to Official version? Are there certain steps for that?.
And another question, Is it possible to shoot video in slower shutter speed then the camera defaults to get the time lapse style effect in night shooting with this ML?

Thanks. 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 13, 2015, 08:26:57 PM
FPS override -> Read first post
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: deusex1 on March 13, 2015, 08:51:18 PM
cluber77, that is interesting. As we know, when shooting video at 24fps, the minimum shutter speed can go as low as 1/30th. This is the setting without ML. I wonder, could ML bring us a shutter speed of 1/24th ? The difference would be really small, but its just a thought.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: cluber77 on March 13, 2015, 09:48:34 PM
I had Hackd GH2 camera and it was possible only if I was shooting in manual focus mode.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 10th March)
Post by: grey on March 13, 2015, 10:24:20 PM
cluber77, that is interesting. As we know, when shooting video at 24fps, the minimum shutter speed can go as low as 1/30th. This is the setting without ML. I wonder, could ML bring us a shutter speed of 1/24th ? The difference would be really small, but its just a thought.

Expo -> Expo. Override=on -> Set shutter speed. 1/25 of sec is lowest speed.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 14, 2015, 09:20:01 AM
updated first post with a new download link. Try out the new installer. AF-ON button in FRSP works now too....
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: janoschsimon on March 14, 2015, 10:28:57 AM
thx for the update nik :-) tried it on the old no change BUHH :D but i wait no problem keep up the great work :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 14, 2015, 10:52:57 AM
it will only work on cameras which have successfully used the previous builds. Appropriate infos can always be taken from 1st post. But new users now have a hassle-free way to install ML. So feel free to try out and report your findings.

I also want to shout out a special thank you to user "grey" which provided awesome fast and helpful support with private testing last days.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Mr.Click on March 14, 2015, 01:41:53 PM
Thank you for the new Alpha, looks good. But I couldn´t find Dual ISO on this Build, which I´m enjoying on the alpha 4. So I decided to switch back to Alpha 4 back again.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: deusex1 on March 14, 2015, 02:34:03 PM
After I shoot, I remove the memory card and turn off the camera. When I put the memory card again, the camera cannot be turned on. The only way to turn it on is, to remove the battery. Is that behavior normal?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 14, 2015, 02:41:51 PM
First turn off camera, wait until all LED activity stopped (and a little more). Then you may remove card. Doing otherwise may cause your battery to drain.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 14, 2015, 03:44:08 PM
Thank you for the new Alpha, looks good. But I couldn´t find Dual ISO on this Build, which I´m enjoying on the alpha 4. So I decided to switch back to Alpha 4 back again.
Fixed! Just re-download from 1st post and thx for informing. Didn't notice myself.

After I shoot, I remove the memory card and turn off the camera.
I recommend  turning off camera and afterwards removing the card.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: deusex1 on March 14, 2015, 05:03:00 PM
I recommend  turning off camera and afterwards removing the card.

Alright i tried this:

I shoot, turn off the camera, remove the card, re-insert the card. The result is the same - the camera cannot turn on, without removing the battery first.

Is this behavior normal for 70D, or is it some left-over the installation of ML, maybe corrupted bootflag?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 14, 2015, 05:04:47 PM
Did you wait for LED activity to stop?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: deusex1 on March 14, 2015, 05:48:28 PM
Did you wait for LED activity to stop?

Hey that seems to fix the issue, thanks!.
I was too quick to turn on the camera after card insertion. Now I tried to wait 5 sec, then it turned on normally. But as far as I remember, such waiting was not necessary, before I installed ML. Not sure, let someone with a clean 70D try.

Update: the waiting thing worked for the 1st insertion, but at the 2nd insertion it failed. And then the battery drained out in a second.

Can anyone explain, exactly why this battery draining happens?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 14, 2015, 05:58:39 PM
But as far as I remember, such waiting was not necessary, before I installed ML.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8286.msg75950#msg75950
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 14, 2015, 06:02:13 PM
LED activity is always there. When turning on and off. Maybe you are rushing too much. Just take some seconds before you remove card.
I put in/out a minimum of 300 times my sdcard from 70D while porting. never encountered your issues.

If you can reproduce it after reading through Walter's posted link then please post detailed steps on how to reproduce...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: deusex1 on March 14, 2015, 06:13:20 PM
I removed Magic Lantern from the firmware menu (waited 30sec to delete the bootflag).
Now the camera behaves the same way I got it from the store.
I dont wait for any LEDs, and no matter how fast I remove and insert the card, the camera turns on without a problem. I can even remove the card without turning off the camera - it still works.

So that means ML needs some time to initialize and if the user moves the card too quickly, the camera bricks and needs battery re-insertion.

I am still wondering, how is it technically possible, to drain a fully charged battery in just seconds? What process could lead to this?

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 14, 2015, 06:27:36 PM
What could have happened: Cam asks battery's controller. Controller lost track and reports empty state.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 14, 2015, 06:28:11 PM
You are confusing the facts. There's no battery drain.
Cam gets simply stuck if you don't wait with removing sdcard. Wait until you can't see any LED activity and only remove sdcard afterwards. Read through walter's posted link plz. But this is offtopic here. On a pc you need to unmount your usb drives too...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 14, 2015, 06:31:22 PM
Most windows user just don't. Linux users learnt it the hard way.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: dmilligan on March 14, 2015, 07:23:35 PM
Given the amount of energy in a camera battery, if it were all released in a matter of seconds, the explosion would certainly be enough to destroy the camera.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Mr.Click on March 14, 2015, 09:45:40 PM
Thank you you Nikfreak for implementing Dual ISO so fast to Alpha 4B
 :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on March 14, 2015, 10:41:42 PM
I am having some issues with the Dual ISO, the main one being this blue/red lens flare looking thing on the right hand side of the frame. Is this normal? Everything else works great!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 14, 2015, 10:51:43 PM
How shall we know? Are we visionary - just by reading text?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on March 14, 2015, 10:54:58 PM
Sorry, I'm using the dual ISO for video. I'm trying to convert it now, cr2hdr.exe is the version from http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7139.0 , as I needed the exiftool.exe and the dcraw.exe. There appears to be an issue in converting the .DNG files as it specifies on that thread, as it isn't converting them.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 14, 2015, 10:56:53 PM
Read the 1st post. especially the first lines where a download link for cr2hdr.exe for 70D is provided.
I never had problems with dualiso photos but didn't try video. Awaiting your feedback

EDIT_ you can find also cr2hdr.exe in Alpha4b zip-file
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on March 14, 2015, 11:38:51 PM
It must just be an issue with the video version, I tried it with a picture and it worked great. It is alternating blue and red flashes every other frame. HDR works well, though. I have tried the latest raw2dng.exe and dropped the dngs onto the cr2hdr as well and both times it flashes red and blue. The cr2hdr says that it cant find the exif (ISO) data from the DNG files.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: gilmoursimon on March 15, 2015, 06:40:02 PM
Hi - does this alpha build for the 70D have 'movie restart'? I have it in the movie tweaks folder on my 5D3 but can't find any reference to it in this 70D magic lantern thread. If anyone's tested it and knows would be great to hear from you. Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 15, 2015, 06:43:45 PM
Do you want to record in H.264?
RAW/MLV will work without this setting since late January.
The only version not supporting seamless RAW/MLV recording >30 minutes is 5D3.123. Yet.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: MattNoir on March 15, 2015, 08:41:35 PM
Hello,
first I want to thank you for awesome work and making our dreams come true.
I finally installed ML too and trying to find my best settings, I will post bugs if I find them.

But I have one question. Is it possible to implement ISO modifying? I foun on net that it is possible to set ISO 25 with ML, but 70D does not have this option...will it be implemented in future releases, or it's not possible with 70D?
Thank you for your answer(s) :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 15, 2015, 08:54:11 PM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8674.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: dmilligan on March 15, 2015, 09:17:57 PM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10111.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nooben on March 16, 2015, 10:02:05 AM
Hi and great work on this. Just a few thoughts on RAW recording, seems the SD controller refuses to go beyond 40 MB/s write speed (even if you have faster cards), meaning full HD recording resolution is limited. Any idea if this is something that can be tweaked/adjusted or just something we have to live with?

Cheers
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 16, 2015, 10:16:41 AM
There are various threads about hardware tweaks. No solution, yet(?). Do a search, please.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: MattNoir on March 16, 2015, 07:21:28 PM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8674.0
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10111.0
I'm sorry, but I didn't find my answers there...
I'm looking for something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQUK0yyvtbI
And the reason? Mainly that when I used my 50/1.4 in bright light, even ISO 100, 1/8000 and RAW wasn't enough, so I had to lower my aperture. Second reason is lowering noise, of course
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 16, 2015, 07:27:57 PM
As answered in first link: Fell free to use ND filters.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ga83 on March 17, 2015, 12:03:37 AM
Hello! I have a canon 70d and i have already installed magic lantern alpha4 . I couldn't find the choice for the movie bitrate change (cbr). Is that choice available? Is there any other way to rec movies with lower bitrate? Thanks...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 17, 2015, 07:33:29 AM
I couldn't find the choice for the movie bitrate change (cbr). Is that choice available?

It is not available
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ga83 on March 17, 2015, 07:53:39 AM
Thanks nik for the information , i hope that cbr will be added in a later version.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: grey on March 17, 2015, 07:10:21 PM
Thanks nik for the information , i hope that cbr will be added in a later version.


Why do you need bitrate control? IPB recording is good enought for most videos. If you need better quality why just don't use ALL-I mode? Or I'm don't understand something?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: grey on March 17, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
And if you need to grade ot color correct video why don't use RAW?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ga83 on March 17, 2015, 07:25:31 PM
I am using IPB video quality ,but i would prefer to have bitrate control ,because a need lower bitrates. I am usually recording events which last more than 3 hours , that is the reason for lower bitrates.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ga83 on March 17, 2015, 07:27:18 PM
I have also a canon 600d with magic lantern already installed. In that case i have bitrate control and it is very useful for me.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: grey on March 17, 2015, 07:49:34 PM
On 64 GB card I usually record 4+ hours without any need to control bitrate.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ga83 on March 17, 2015, 08:02:51 PM
You shoot videos with battery grip installed? Do you have any overheating issue?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: grey on March 17, 2015, 09:47:18 PM
You shoot videos with battery grip installed? Do you have any overheating issue?

No. I change batteries. I have 6 pcs. LP-E6 from DSTE. Never had overheating problems with 70D, and with 6D too. My friend have 5D3, and when we record long videos he has problems with temperature. We record at same time with 5D3 + 650D + 6D and only 5D3 overheat.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: TKF Productions on March 18, 2015, 06:57:21 PM
This Alpha4b release is amazing!  I had the Alpha3 build and it literally took me 30 seconds to update it with the new installation/bootable process.  Thank you for your continued hard work on this!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: dbox on March 19, 2015, 12:57:10 AM
Hi everybody

Any news about ML for 70D with low s/n?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: flou on March 19, 2015, 12:05:36 PM
My serial start with #065 , I had se the smaller than #068 is not possible to use the ML.

So my questions is? When we will have a version for all serials? is possible? Or not?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: kubodhi on March 19, 2015, 02:26:35 PM
Hi everybody

Any news about ML for 70D with low s/n?

My serial start with #065 , I had se the smaller than #068 is not possible to use the ML.

So my questions is? When we will have a version for all serials? is possible? Or not?


Welcome to the community!  :)  Just watch the first post of this thread.  I'm sure information will be posted there when the effort swings from getting ML working on the 70D that the developer has in his hands to making the necessary adjustments for it to work on other versions.  Asking this question over and over for 20+ pages won't accelerate the development or even likely get you an ETA.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 19, 2015, 03:55:47 PM
Seriously enough with these questions -- It'll most likely sabotage the developments so please be patience and respect the dev's otherwise...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: AsevenX on March 20, 2015, 04:44:18 PM
Signed up to show support for this and wish the devs the best of luck! You guys are awesome.

Apologies if this is inappropriate for the thread. I've been following this for a few months now and thought I'd say something.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: n00p on March 20, 2015, 07:37:48 PM
Hi folks,
seems I have the "wrong" rev with my 70D.
What can I do to support the development except sending my cam (I need it myself)?
Is there a possibility to get a dump of my cam OS or whatever you need?
Since I'm not a developer, please give me a hint how to extract it from the cam and I'll see what I can do.

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 20, 2015, 07:57:58 PM
Please read this thread. It makes no sense trying to support both firmware versions during this early state of development. Once the bugs for the "later" version are sorted out and port is complete it's supposed to be a matter of days for a port coming up for the "early" version.
Until then: Stay calm and carry on!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: PanzerMamba on March 21, 2015, 12:37:34 PM
Overlays
-Zebras: ok
-Focus Peak: ok
-magic zoom: ok
-cropmarks: ok
-ghost img: not tested
-spotmeter: seems ok
-false color: seems ok
-histogram: ok
-waveform: ok
-vectorscope: ok

Movie:
-grad expo: not tested
-fps override: not sure
-hdr video: seems ok
-vignetting: not tested
-fine tuning:  seems ok
-raw video: almost ok*
-movie tweaks: ok
-dual iso: almost ok**

Shoot
-Intervalometer: ok
-Bracketing: ok
-bulb: not tested
-motion detect: ok
-silent picture: ok

Focus:
-Trap focus: works ok, but i can't stop this function, i had to restart camera (because trash button didn't leads to ml menu)

* AF box disappears after pressing shutter button, and won't appear again.  Sometimes AF works (after pressing shutter button), sometimes not, sometimes camera focus on whole frame, sometimes nothing happening  (stays out of focus)
** Camera heated up intensely, image in liveview is really hard to focus manually, AF is not working.

ML menu kicks out randomly- really annoying sometimes. But generally its stabile. 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: X-STATE on March 21, 2015, 03:39:41 PM
@PanzerMamba, upload the result of dual iso video, plz
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Ryan1singer on March 23, 2015, 02:31:08 AM
I have been following this thread as amazing progress has unfolded. Has this alpha enabled the possibility of 60fps/1080p?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: falllengh on March 23, 2015, 03:29:02 AM
waiting for the support of all revisions!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: crirus on March 23, 2015, 06:32:16 PM
Hello

Just installed the alpha 4b. Installation was just peachy, fast, no issues. However it's not staying in ML menu if I let it inactive for 2-3 seconds.
It heats up to about 64-68C in 30-40 minutes of playing with it, I suppose that's it?
I can't see the green bars on magic zoom focus confirm, should I be in some specific mode/setting?

Otherwise I have no complains, I can already use it in production, with the long time use reserve for now :)

Thank you

Cristian
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: MattNoir on March 23, 2015, 07:29:04 PM
Crirus - if you want to stay in ML menu, try it without liveview, I didn't have any problems.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: jpturner on March 23, 2015, 09:50:26 PM
YES!!!! Please add support the other revisions of 1.1.1...  Thanks for your work and diligence in bringing ML to the 70D!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: crirus on March 24, 2015, 10:01:19 AM
Hello,

well yes, that could be a temporary solution but I rather not close live view each time I jump to menu. Not a deal breaker right now anyways, just a nice fix when everything else works.

One other thing I keep getting asked by people that didn't dare yet to install ML is that if ML can keep the live view open while a hdmi or USB cable is plugged in.

@nikfreak, Do you plan to look into that ?


Regards.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ubermood on March 25, 2015, 08:26:08 AM
I installed and tested Alpha4b yesterday.

One thing that I noticed is that.. after every shot taken, when it previews my picture for 2 sec(s), the preview image is slowly filled up with white garbage pixels from top to bottom before the preview disappears again. I can't remember that it did behave like this before.

Another thing I realised is that, ML:s global draw / onscreen layers are not working when WIFI is set to ON. Had hard time figuring out what was wrong before I figured this out.

Also, the on-screen level meter (in form of a line) erases/eats up my AF-points from the screen when it passes over them.

And last, but not least... it's very annoying when ML menu suddenly disappears after a couple of seconds. It's also not possible to go back to the menu again and change the setting you fiddled with before without first moving (with the keypad) to another setting and then back to the setting that was marked when ML-menu opened with.


Thanks (!!) and keep on working..! :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 25, 2015, 08:44:38 AM

One thing that I noticed is that.. after every shot taken, when it previews my picture for 2 sec(s), the preview image is slowly filled up with white garbage pixels from top to bottom before the preview disappears again. I can't remember that it did behave like this before.

This "garbage" only appears when RAW zebras are selected to show after taking a pic. So either disable that in ML menu (no raw zebras for QR) or use "Luma Fast" for now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: tuxfoto on March 25, 2015, 09:37:59 AM
Another thing I realised is that, ML:s global draw / onscreen layers are not working when WIFI is set to ON. Had hard time figuring out what was wrong before I figured this out.

Hi,
i have same effect.
There isn´t Picture in Display, mac only.

Greetings und Thanks for your work nikfreak
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: martijnsx on March 26, 2015, 07:46:46 PM
Good to see that there is progress being made  :)

Approximately how long do you (who are working on it) think we have to wait for the final release/version?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 26, 2015, 07:57:09 PM
It takes how long it takes.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ciriuss925 on March 26, 2015, 11:10:31 PM
I am new member of this post - just got my 70D last week (upgrading from Canon T1i - initially wanted the 7DMark ii but decided against it - I'm on a budget thus the 70D).   

Just dropping a note to thank the ML coders and testers for their hard work -  I am looking forward (no rush!)  to use Magic Lantern once the first version comes out :)  In the meantime I am going through the other posts to read the wonderful features of ML  (currently am interested in dualISO and intervalometer as I am primarily into photography, but looking to experiment with ML video features - raw video or HDR video - when I become more acquainted with the 70D camera).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: renowilliams on March 26, 2015, 11:31:32 PM
Congrats on the new camera. You'll like the 70D. When you get more money saved, I suggest the Sigma 18-35  f1.8 lens as it is great on the 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Loliplol on March 27, 2015, 08:21:48 PM
I just downloaded it and installed it! It works great, but there are some bugs.

Like:
- Live View laggs (sometimes)
- ML Menu just closes on it's own
- Well, I guess this isn't a bug, but where is raw video? I saw some YouTubers recording in raw and I can't find it.
- It says my camera is running on 70 degree celsius.

Thing that I couldn't find that there are or aren't:
- Audio monitoring thingy (I have no idea where to activate it)
- Raw video


If you could like reply or something, that would be awesome! Raw video is very important to me :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on March 27, 2015, 08:55:42 PM
- ML Menu just closes on it's own
Known issue, I have it too on M1, kinda annoying: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/1974/6d-in-live-view-mode-ml-menu-times-out

- Well, I guess this isn't a bug, but where is raw video? I saw some YouTubers recording in raw and I can't find it.
In the video menu of ML, kinda last?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Loliplol on March 27, 2015, 09:03:18 PM
In the video menu of ML, kinda last?

Found it! Thanks! :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: camcramdigital on March 28, 2015, 01:35:09 AM
Temps while recording are being reported at 60 degree Celsius - is this normal?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Loliplol on March 28, 2015, 09:47:21 AM
Temps while recording are being reported at 60 degree Celsius - is this normal?

My went to 70! I think it's normal, SD card get's pretty hot while writing on it.

Okay, so here are my reports:
- My ML info display is not showing (That thingy you must turn off the canon info on the display, it's not showing up.)
- LiveView still laggs
- It's very glitchy. I press the trashbin, it opens the Canon menu. (sometimes)


Plus a question. What program reads .raw video? My premiere won't, after effects said nope too!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: X-STATE on March 28, 2015, 11:53:38 AM
Plus a question. What program reads .raw video? My premiere won't, after effects said nope too!
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=49.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: TKF Productions on March 28, 2015, 07:06:31 PM
Not sure if this question is appropriate here or if I should ask it in the other threads, but I'm trying to convert the .mlv file to something useable.  I downloaded the FUSE MLV to cDNG converter and everything worked fine and I got the DNG files, however, when I tried to import them into After Effects I get the following error:

"After Effects error: the file format module could not parse the file. ( 45 :: 35 )

Anybody know how to fix this or how to get the .MLV files properly converted?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on March 29, 2015, 04:03:04 PM
Just realized that with MLV, it always goes to the Canon LiveView when recording, regardless of what you selected in the menu, even hacked no preview.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UWP on March 30, 2015, 05:55:17 PM
I've been travelling the last weeks and used ML a lot. Right now I have the version from March 6, I'm mostly using dual ISO and Advanced Bracketing. Dual ISO is very stable, big congrats on that! But with advanced bracketing I got some Err 30 when doing this:

Starting to shoot a series. Sometimes the longest pic had been too long (I'm sometimes a bit impatient) and I thought maybe I don't need the long exposure pic, so I just switched the camera off. Immediatley I'm getting Err 30 with the hint to take off the battery and reinsert it. Of course nnothing else happened, after this everything is going on fine, just had to reenable all modules.

I could see kind of log on the SD card afterwards, would it be useful to extract and post it here? Or doesn't it help at all? And I  always get the same error while switching off during advanced bracket shoot. I don't know if it's good or bad to test it that way, but at first it happened and to be sure that it will always happen while switching off I tried it 3 or 4 times and yes: always the same, Err 30.

For me it's a marvellous firmware, I can do lots of nice things with it! Here's an example of one of my bracketing shots:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=812094518843617&l=2f35cd3554

Thank you for this wonderful peace of software!

UWP
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on March 30, 2015, 06:08:30 PM
Better use the latest build from 1st post.
If you manage to get the ERR30 afterwards again plz post a detailed instruction on how to reproduce it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UWP on March 30, 2015, 06:17:37 PM
Better use the latest build from 1st post.
If you manage to get the ERR30 afterwards again plz post a detailed instruction on how to reproduce it.

Ok, I'll try the next days!

UWP
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: RafQue on March 30, 2015, 10:03:48 PM
Here's an example of one of my bracketing shots:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=812094518843617&l=2f35cd3554

Thank you for this wonderful peace of software!

UWP

Hi UWP,

Wow! I just luv your HDR bracketing pic!
Man, I can't wait to make sum myself...  :D
I will go to South Africa next month and I hope I will be able to do some nice HDR bracketing shooting over there.
But I don't want to sound like sum other people in this thread who are also waiting on a build for their revision, so please don't feel strained in any way, because I'm really thankful for your effort, Nikfreak! ;)

Grtz,
RafQue
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UWP on March 31, 2015, 01:11:28 PM
Hi UWP,

Wow! I just luv your HDR bracketing pic!
Man, I can't wait to make sum myself...  :D


Thank you!

I can also recommend dual ISO, although the output is not as impressive, but it's fair enough:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=783824978337238&l=66dc5b613d

(This one has been made with a 650d, the quality with a 70d should be much better)

The work-side is just a bit more but here you can do HDR in one-shot, that's especially by day very helpful!

Have a nice time in South Africa, lots of good pictures for you!

UWP
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 31, 2015, 01:53:09 PM
(This one has been made with a 650d, the quality with a 70d should be much better)

"Much better"? May I ask why?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UWP on March 31, 2015, 02:08:38 PM
"Much better"? May I ask why?

Dual ISO is about 2 shifting ISO lines. One is normally with ISO 100 and the second one should be higher. The 650d has first noise at ISO 200 and a bit more at ISO 400. ISO 800 is really visible noise at the pics. To get much exposure gain you should always have a big difference between both "poles", but ISO100/1600 was too much for a good quality dual ISO pic with the 650d so I had to go down to 100/800 but even here I got noise in the result. When I'm doing 100/800 with the 70d there's almost no noise, the pics are very clear. I first have this good result with a 650d with 100/400 while the result with 100/1600 is also quite ok with the 70d. And when I compare the normal pics: 70d has almost no noise upto ISO 800, with ISO 1600 I can see the first disturbing pixels, the 650d is way worse regarding ISO quality. BTW, with the 650d I always had to do bracketing HDRs with ISO100. ISO 200 lead to too much noise in the resulting pic. With the 70d it's possible to do bracketing HDRs with ISO 400 (the bridge has been made with ISO 400) with almost no noise. 70d is just a better camera or has got a better sensor/technical stuff/processor inside, whatsoever. The results are obvious for me.

UWP
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: dmilligan on March 31, 2015, 02:51:55 PM
Higher ISOs have less noise (per photoelectron) not more (otherwise it would be pointless to use them). Therefore, using a higher recovery ISO with dual ISO will result in less noise in the final image, not more. This is the whole entire reason dual ISO exists and is useful.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10111.0
http://clarkvision.com/articles/iso/index.html
http://theory.uchicago.edu/~ejm/pix/20d/tests/noise/index.html
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UWP on March 31, 2015, 04:04:50 PM
Higher ISOs have less noise (per photoelectron) not more (otherwise it would be pointless to use them). Therefore, using a higher recovery ISO with dual ISO will result in less noise in the final image, not more. This is the whole entire reason dual ISO exists and is useful.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10111.0
http://clarkvision.com/articles/iso/index.html
http://theory.uchicago.edu/~ejm/pix/20d/tests/noise/index.html

All of this might be right, but the results speak their own language. Higher ISO = less quality, especially regarding noise patterns. That's what I can see on all my pics. Even in dual ISO I can see the effect although of course a ISO 100/1600 pic is way better than just a ISO 1600 pic, even with the 650d.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Frank7D on March 31, 2015, 05:35:20 PM
"All of this might be right, but the results speak their own language. Higher ISO = less quality, especially regarding noise patterns. That's what I can see on all my pics. Even in dual ISO I can see the effect although of course a ISO 100/1600 pic is way better than just a ISO 1600 pic, even with the 650d."

I get different results from you, though (on the 7D). For me, lower ISO results in larger noise grain and more obvious vertical banding. Can you describe what "less quality" means to you?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UWP on March 31, 2015, 05:56:16 PM

I get different results from you, though (on the 7D). For me, lower ISO results in larger noise grain and more obvious vertical banding. Can you describe what "less quality" means to you?

I'll try to bring some test pics to show. I guess it will be weekend until then. Right now I don't have time for shooting pics.
But I'll try to show!

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Loliplol on March 31, 2015, 06:11:42 PM
Magic Lantern for 70D is probably like the best thing ever made. Raw video is just epic, it does need more space and things, but the video looks awesome!

But I can't find that audio monitor thingy. Is it in the latest verison or is it still in development?
Also, anamorphic thingy is just epic for filming "film"-like stuff! :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: dmilligan on March 31, 2015, 06:12:26 PM
@UWP,

Take two photos with the same shutter speed and aperture, one at ISO 100 and one at ISO 1600. In post, bump the exposure of the ISO 100 shot by ~4 EV to match the ISO 1600 shot. Now, compare the two.

Now, with the same shutter speed and aperture (and the same scene), take a dual ISO shot at 100/1600. Process it with cr2hdr and increase the exposure to match the first two. Compare with the first two.

You will find that:
* The ISO 100 shot has a lot of noise in the shadows
* The ISO 1600 shot has a lot less noise, but a lot of it may be overexposed
* The ISO 100/1600 shot has the same noise as the ISO 1600 shot, but it is not overexposed (it's exposed like the ISO 100 shot)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 31, 2015, 06:48:56 PM
You will find that:
* The ISO 100 shot has a lot of noise in the shadows
* The ISO 1600 shot has a lot less noise, but a lot of it may be overexposed
* The ISO 100/1600 shot has the same noise as the ISO 1600 shot, but it is not overexposed (it's exposed like the ISO 100 shot)

Agreed. BIG time!  8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UWP on March 31, 2015, 07:20:46 PM
@dmilligan,


Take two photos with the same shutter speed and aperture, one at ISO 100 and one at ISO 1600. In post, bump the exposure of the ISO 100 shot by ~4 EV to match the ISO 1600 shot. Now, compare the two.

Now, with the same shutter speed and aperture (and the same scene), take a dual ISO shot at 100/1600. Process it with cr2hdr and increase the exposure to match the first two. Compare with the first two.


Sounds interesting, I'll try, although I don't have tools which can do "exactly +4 EV", I'll have to do it by looking at the pictures, when they're "equally bright". Thank you, I'm always willing to learn!

UWP
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Marc_Petzold on March 31, 2015, 09:55:00 PM
Hello Guys

It´s time to create a version for the other revision. The 4b is stable in the basic applikations. We must look to the other revision that we may know whether there are big differences in dealing with the other hardware. I do not think this is just a copy from 4b with a other startpoint or so.


br
Marc
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on March 31, 2015, 10:03:08 PM
Too late, it's already on it's way: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/620/add-support-for-eos-70d-111-both-revisions/diff
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on March 31, 2015, 10:46:18 PM
Too late, it's already on it's way: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/620/add-support-for-eos-70d-111-both-revisions/diff

:) ;) :D ;D :o 8) :o ;D :D ;) :)
 Can you guys see this?!?!?!?!
   It's my happy dance!!!!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Makadamia on March 31, 2015, 11:48:43 PM
Good news :)

Anyway - take your time, I can wait. Though I'll be happy to test it on my Rev. B 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: theollybanks on April 01, 2015, 12:34:01 AM
Hello.

Willing volunteer here to test the Rev.B Firmware on personal 70D. Keep me informed if thats a possibility!  :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: janoschsimon on April 01, 2015, 07:51:15 AM
great news :-) keep up the great work :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UrbexJoe on April 01, 2015, 08:26:45 AM
I am willing to test on 2 RevB. I am eager, i must admit ;). Keep up the good work I love it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: CommanderHT on April 01, 2015, 09:43:46 AM
Hi nikfreak and dev's. Thumbs up for your very good work. I am also willing to test RevB on my 70D. Appreciated ML already since the early days on a 550D, later on a 60D and I'm curious how it performs on my 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: pierre2fun on April 01, 2015, 01:41:06 PM
 8)  Nikfreak, many thanks for your hard work: chapeau bas  8)

Alex1, Nano, the testers and the ML team are not forgotten. THANKS  :D
Of course, I will help!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 01, 2015, 02:20:26 PM
So Nik thanks for the easter treat!!! Kinda like an easter egg hunt.
Cant wait to unwrap the new version goodies ...

Cheers! And Def-eye looks like the days of coasting will soon be over.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 01, 2015, 05:47:51 PM
   This is GreatNewsIndeed Nik&Team ~ CountMeIn as a Tester ~

               ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: RafQue on April 01, 2015, 07:14:04 PM
Euh....

R U sure it's not just April fools day?  :P
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: grzala99 on April 01, 2015, 07:20:04 PM
Walter wrote information :
"Too late, it's already on it's way: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/620/add-support-for-eos-70d-111-both-revisions/diff"
it was yesterday and it means it is true (should be).
After midnight this could be a fools day prank. (hope not)
Can`t wait for ML for 2of my 70D`s
best regards
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 01, 2015, 07:24:15 PM
Well, there is this thing with timezones, you know?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 01, 2015, 07:28:57 PM
Euh....

R U sure it's not just April fools day?  :P

This is no joke.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: RafQue on April 01, 2015, 07:30:19 PM
This is no joke.

Phiough... thx 4 clearing that up Nik!  :-*
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: bsauce42 on April 01, 2015, 07:30:23 PM
[emoji108]
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: tomp on April 01, 2015, 09:02:32 PM
Hi,  first big thx for your effort in developing magic lantern. I have an idea of adding adittional functionality to magic lantern and canon DSLR.

I'm a hunter but i hunt more with 70d lately then with riffle. Recently i'm starting to train in long distance shooting (target shooting) and i thought about buying observing scope not to have to walk to the target board.

70d with 150-600mm tamron has big adventage over observing scope - i don't have to change position to look throu observing scope. Just turn head and check the lcd display. The other thing great about magic lanter is that it shows the distance between the camera and the target.

Is it possible to include a simple ballistic calculator module in magic lantern?
Youser would provide ballistic data for ammunition he uses, and the program would calculate (already has distance, earth derivation is known, youser could enter the actual temperature and atm. pressure) and show on the lcd how high/left/right should the shooter aim, or simpler how many MOA adjustment on the scope should be made.

Perhaps dslr coud be also helpful during low light hunting - in my country before shooting we have to recognize target with binoculars - i think that good dslr coud give brighter image then binoculars (70d with cinestyle and 18-135mm high iso looks promissing for this task)

Excuse my English, thank you again, and regards
Tom
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Marc_Petzold on April 01, 2015, 09:56:41 PM
Hey Ho
 :P
But where is the download.
To early April April (german insider SCHULZ)

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/620/add-support-for-eos-70d-111-both-revisions/diff


If something comes up , it should be on the first page.
BR.
Marc
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 01, 2015, 10:00:37 PM
"It's on it's way" may be translated "We are not there, yet". Why announce something not ready yet without any clue how long it will actually take?

Didn't expect nikfreak to fall for this prank ...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UrbexJoe on April 01, 2015, 10:10:17 PM
Not funny  :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 01, 2015, 10:34:35 PM
"It's on it's way" may be translated "We are not there, yet". Why announce something not ready yet without any glue how long it will actually take?

Didn't expect nikfreak to fall for this prank ...

Yes, BSOD caught me as commented (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/2235/5dmk2-bricked-urgent-please) but still the pull request is no joke wether it might be declined or put on hold for weeks...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Matheus on April 02, 2015, 04:22:17 AM
Yes, BSOD caught me as commented (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/2235/5dmk2-bricked-urgent-please) but still the pull request is no joke wether it might be declined or put on hold for weeks...

Just do as it suggests, enable peaking, take a photo of today's date on a calendar and everything should be fine. The magic button part may be a bit tricky to do, but worked fine for me...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: inestima on April 02, 2015, 06:44:28 PM
@nikfreak if you need an early 70d body (sn 03202101xxxx) , I'd be happy to ship mine your way. It's not getting much use atm.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 02, 2015, 07:06:48 PM
@nikfreak if you need an early 70d body (sn 03202101xxxx) , I'd be happy to ship mine your way. It's not getting much use atm.

It would ofc be easier to test and manage some stuff on it but better keep it in your hands rather than sending and returning it from one address to another forth and back. Once we got a "hello world" or "installer" firmware for Rev. B it's up to one of you to try and report back. I simply assume I can keep it maintained for both revisions. One will be blindly maintained. Maybe we get lucky one day and Canon decides to bring out a new firmware. That would make it easier.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: CommanderHT on April 03, 2015, 09:41:37 AM
@nikfreak:
Why not write a petition to Canon (of course not as ML users, but just as disappointed 70D Users). The petition should refer to the fact, that even cheap Canon Systemcams can do 1080p with 60fps, have focus peaking etc. It should be easy for them to update at least the possibility for higher framrates in 1080p mode. That be the reason for the petition and if Canon swallows it, we would have our firmware update. I know this is a bit out of topic but what about that?
Can we get a few hundred or better thousand 70D users together for that? I would be willing to send the petition in my name to Canon.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: rihardsg on April 03, 2015, 12:14:54 PM
Just tried on my 053022016xxx.
Doesn't work out.
After patching live view get frozen and after rebooting Err 80.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: MattNoir on April 03, 2015, 12:48:10 PM
CommanderHT
I am afraid 1080p 60fps would not be possible because of hardware limitations (write speed) and petition would do nothing. i whink they know well what people want, they must roam the internet and see our wishes. But if they implement it, it would cost much more, because *MARKETING*
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 03, 2015, 07:36:21 PM
1080 60fps - hmmm how about h264 write to usb for clean outs.  That's a bit more interesting. 
Once I get 70D raw loading, I am interested in the write to card & usb dual approach ... if that works that can increase performance for all ML cameras. 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 03, 2015, 07:43:35 PM
Isn't All-I for 70D at 25 fps something around 12 MByte/s write rate? That should not be a problem with SD-card interface even at 60 fps with H.264 and there is no need to fool around with USB.
Correct me if my calculations are wrong.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: xsghost on April 04, 2015, 11:15:22 AM
So I just installed ML on my 70D and I'm looking at the functions for arrow keys (ISO, WB), but I can't toggle the function to come on. It says I should use the LIGHT key, but pressing it does nothing while recording, and it just toggles the.. lcd light in liveview. Is there something I'm missing, or is it just not working yet?

Also, i'm missing the display of the rec time, or remaining rec time while recording.
And the DigitalZoom shortcut (1x,3x) that I grew accustomed to on my 600D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 04, 2015, 08:29:21 PM
Walter I get IPB compression (1920x1080x24x30=1492MB vs 85MB) as 17.6MB/S  well under the 40MB/s card writer speed.  based on http://learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2012/ipp_ipb_all_i_compare.htmlp

So 1920x1080x60=3732.5 MB and with IPB compression applied write speed needed is 44 MB/s. Note quite sustainable on a 70D.  Check if I am wrong.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 04, 2015, 09:20:23 PM
Sorry, I cannot follow your maths.
"1920x1080x24x30=1492MB"
The source you linked got a file 106 MByte big after 30 seconds in All-I 1080p24. -> My math gives me about 3.5 MByte/s (rather low. I had higher rates in IPB ...)

Canon tells about 5 minutes for each 4 GByte. Math tells me it's about 13.3 MByte/s.
Following that number 60 fps will require about 33.3 MByte/s. Sufficient with the SD-card interface.

I have no idea where you got that 1492 number.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: SgtIcetea on April 04, 2015, 10:22:52 PM
Any new info for not working 70Ds? Was it an April's fool or is ML coming for anyone now? I could not find any download or test version for this and couldn't figure out whats true now
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 04, 2015, 10:28:34 PM
There indeed was a pull request *before* April Fools Day but Nikfreak fell for the prank and chickened out. Pull request got re-instated after he found out what was actually going on.
But "We are not there yet" applies as long this pull request is in review.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: SgtIcetea on April 04, 2015, 10:54:42 PM
Okay thanks, I will wait for test versions
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Mallowsm on April 05, 2015, 02:01:53 PM
Hi could someone help me. I had the First Nightly ML and then i changed to the new one. It worked now i can't get anything. Ive formatted the card on my mac and in my 70d and tried to start a fresh but alas nothing. Press the trash can and nothing happens anymore. Is there something that has changed or something different that i need to do. Ive copied the files across onto the card like i did originally. I took a picture before copying the files across just incase so it made the DCIM folder etc. Any help would be appreciated greatly
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: chris_overseas on April 05, 2015, 02:05:52 PM
@Mallowsm: sounds like your card is no longer marked as bootable.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Mallowsm on April 05, 2015, 02:08:43 PM
@Mallowsm: sounds like your card is no longer marked as bootable.
Yeah i completely formatted the thing like highest level on the disk utility it took forever but its all sorted now, Running ML again. Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: anthonykeane on April 06, 2015, 06:40:07 AM
BUG REPORT:

Motion Detect:

Err 70 happens after several successful shots, locks the camera with an err 70, powering off causes the LCD to show battery, the number 1 ( in the shots remaining) and a single bar from the exposure gradient.

requires the removal of the battery to recover Alpha 4b



Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 06, 2015, 03:31:40 PM
So I just installed ML on my 70D and I'm looking at the functions for arrow keys (ISO, WB), but I can't toggle the function to come on. It says I should use the LIGHT key, but pressing it does nothing while recording, and it just toggles the.. lcd light in liveview. Is there something I'm missing, or is it just not working yet?

nice find while playing around with that I discovered that SET+MAINDIAL wouldn't work too. Fixed it by using a different Apphandler stub while reviewing images...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: yoyo75011 on April 07, 2015, 12:20:48 PM
Hi everyone, I am new on the forum.
I installed ML on my 70D (098024000xxx) two days ago. So far, it seems to work fine. I use it almost only on video mode and I will test it tomorrow during a 2 hours show.
Thanks for the job you all are doing.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on April 07, 2015, 08:04:32 PM

Hi everyone, I am new on the forum.
I installed ML on my 70D (098024000xxx) two days ago. So far, it seems to work fine. I use it almost only on video mode and I will test it tomorrow during a 2 hours show.
Thanks for the job you all are doing.

Make sure to thoroughly test out all settings before the show in order to avoid recording issues.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: muc2810 on April 07, 2015, 11:15:45 PM
on my 70D "Motion Detect" works fine. There is no error. I did about 50 RAW's in a line. No Problems Using the latest build.

What about Audio? Any chance to get it in the next alpha? Would be great.

Thanks
Stefan
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Stigliano on April 08, 2015, 09:13:14 PM
Excuse my English. Google Translate.  ;D ;D
I need to use a TV as video assist, connected by HDMI.
Its out image on TV and continue on the LCD?
hug
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: yoyo75011 on April 09, 2015, 10:59:01 AM
Hi Stigliano,
no, you will only have the image on your field/external monitor, and pay attention to this, if you are out of battery on your monitor or disconnect it, it will stop recording.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: yoyo75011 on April 09, 2015, 11:17:05 AM
Hi
back from my first vidéo shooting using ML. Works fine even if I couldn't test everything...It changes a bit to have all these information on the screen but so far, I had no trouble during recording.
There is one thing I would mention, even if I mostly use manual focus, when I tried with auto focus, the square mark disappeared automatically after 2 sec. Is it normal?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 09, 2015, 12:54:34 PM
Hi
back from my first vidéo shooting using ML. Works fine even if I couldn't test everything...It changes a bit to have all these information on the screen but so far, I had no trouble during recording.
There is one thing I would mention, even if I mostly use manual focus, when I tried with auto focus, the square mark disappeared automatically after 2 sec. Is it normal?

Check ML settings. autofocus box is set to "auto-hide" by default. Change it to "show" and that's it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Danne on April 09, 2015, 02:31:31 PM
Hi Nikfreak! Nice work on 70D. The cr2hdr20bit version you provide, does it lack the option gramymed, graymax? Couldn,t find the options from N/A compilation.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: yoyo75011 on April 09, 2015, 06:29:56 PM
Great, thanks for your passion.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: snakec on April 10, 2015, 05:52:31 AM
Where is bitratre ..X for movie?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: thebishopgame on April 10, 2015, 07:47:09 PM
Been diggin' ML on the 70d for a couple weeks now, thanks for the great work! Ran into my first gotcha:

BUG REPORT:

Ghost Image doesn't seem to work, whether in conjunction with other ML features or on its own. Enabling it just causes the ML displays to flicker and doesn't draw anything new on the screen. Disabling it returns everything to normal function.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Filip on April 11, 2015, 12:14:17 AM
Hey guys,

I've got a bit of an issue with dual iso photos - when I drag and drop my dual ISO cr2s on top of cr2hdr.exe a command prompt windows flicks open for less than a second and then disappears and does not create a new dng file (unless it does so in a very obscure location).

Do any of you have the same issue? Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

Just to mention that I am indeed using the cr2hdr.exe file downloaded from the first page of this thread.

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: gsanchez922 on April 11, 2015, 04:49:41 AM
Hello everyone, I'd like to know if anybody has a video with the dual iso and if someone can explain to me how to used because I can't get it work thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 11, 2015, 07:31:47 AM
Do any of you have the same issue? Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

Just to mention that I am indeed using the cr2hdr.exe file downloaded from the first page of this thread.

Thanks

What about dcraw and exiftool? Do you have them at the same location / folder available? I guess you miss those and that's why it won't work...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Filip on April 11, 2015, 06:36:01 PM
I tried all possible options (with/without/one there/the other there) and still the same result...

I guess dcraw and exiftool are not specific to the 70D as cr2hdr is?

Cheers for the quick response!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: kubodhi on April 11, 2015, 06:38:44 PM
Hey guys,

I've got a bit of an issue with dual iso photos - when I drag and drop my dual ISO cr2s on top of cr2hdr.exe a command prompt windows flicks open for less than a second and then disappears and does not create a new dng file (unless it does so in a very obscure location).

Do any of you have the same issue? Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

Just to mention that I am indeed using the cr2hdr.exe file downloaded from the first page of this thread.

Thanks

One thing you could do is open a Command Prompt and navigate to the appropriate directory with your cr2hdr executable.  Launch it from there, pointing it to your cr2, and then the window won't go away and you'll be able to read the error output.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: mrpanda on April 12, 2015, 12:08:59 PM
Bonjour,

J'ai un EOS 70D et je voudrais installer ML mais cela ne marche pas
je télécharge ML je le dzip je copie tout sur ma carte sd
je l'insert dans l’appareil ensuite je demande une mise  a jour du logiciel la led rouge clignote  et en suite il retourne au menu de l'appareil et quand j’appuie sur la poubelle ML ne ce lance pas 

Hello,

I have a 70D and EOS But I Would ML IT installer does not work
I I Dzip sd Download ML I copy everything on my card
I insert into UNIT I ask the room A Last Day Software The Red led flashes and bathroom EN IT returns to the menu De UNIT AND WHEN I support On The ML trash not launch

sorry for my english i'm not good
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Filip on April 12, 2015, 03:57:08 PM
Thanks for the tip kubidhi!!

I ran it through command prompt and found that cr2hdr is looking for 'dcraw' and 'exiftool' specifically and mine were named a bit different (I had not changed them - they came like that after the download). I renamed the two appropriately and now it all works perfectly!!

Cheers for the help, much appreciated!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 12, 2015, 06:22:36 PM
      MrPanda

   It sounds as if you probably have 1 of the Early Models of 70D ~ As Do I ~ Read the Very 1st post

carefully for some details ~ Those of us with Early 70Ds are just going to have to wait for all the Major

Bugs to get worked out & then NikF' will Port a Version for Our Cam's ~

                     ORR ~ DeanB

                                      MrPanda

             Il semble que si vous pouvez avoir une des premiers modèles de 70D ~ Comme Dois-je ~ Lire la Très 1er post

attentivement certains détails ~ Ceux d'entre nous avec Early 70Ds allez juste devoir attendre pour tous les grands

Bugs à se élaborées et puis NikF «volonté Port une version pour Notre Cam de ~

                                                                                                                                    ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: steviemay on April 12, 2015, 06:43:18 PM
Hi guys I'm trying to find out the best resolution to use when recording raw I used 1280x720 and it seemed really low quality
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 12, 2015, 06:59:01 PM
Low quality means in detail?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: steviemay on April 12, 2015, 06:59:41 PM
It looks like it has a lot of noise to it
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 12, 2015, 07:00:58 PM
Maybe there is a lot of noise in it. You haven't bothered to tell any settings you used.
Samples, please.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: steviemay on April 12, 2015, 07:04:49 PM
Can't show any samples I'm in work at the moment I was using canon 50mm and in camera settings 1920x1080 25 frames a second
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: mrpanda on April 12, 2015, 10:07:16 PM
ok thx  OlRivrRat

il n'y a pas d'autre solution ?

there is no other solution?


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: SamuLibero on April 12, 2015, 10:59:40 PM
Hi guys ....i ha e a problem, I can not install Ml :( my camera has a higher serial number than 6871947635... Is this why it doesn't work ? T

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 12, 2015, 11:07:08 PM
Format card in cardreader. Format card in camera. Start all over again.
If it fails again ... you have to be patient.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Mayavin on April 13, 2015, 11:05:08 AM
Hi,
Thanks for the good work :)
I am a newbie and have a problem with installing this aplha. I copy the files to the root of the sd-card and then I try to update firmware. I get only message saying: "Memory card containing firmware is required to update".

I would include attachments the screen shots of my content of the memory card if I would know how to do it here in the forum. I tried in 2 different ways. First putting to the root the two files and secondly copying the folder that resulted from unzip containing the two files. In both two cases the same result.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 13, 2015, 11:43:45 AM
There are 2 files and one directory needed on card:
AUTOEXEC.BIN
ML70D111.FIR
ML (directory)

Go to first page, first post. Follow instructions.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: bredy on April 13, 2015, 07:54:59 PM
But the sn supported is 006871947635 or 068719476735?
Title: Canon 70D Public Release?
Post by: starvinmarvin on April 14, 2015, 01:20:18 AM
Hello,

How can I stay in the loop about a public release, once it is available?

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Joos on April 14, 2015, 03:18:00 AM
I really beg you , make a version suitable for all audits 70d, please. I dutifully waited with the first day of the project , and now it seems no one is going to do a beta version , I completely understand that you do not owe anything to anyone , but I just ask you - do it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: kubodhi on April 14, 2015, 03:39:51 AM
I really beg you , make a version suitable for all audits 70d, please. I dutifully waited with the first day of the project , and now it seems no one is going to do a beta version , I completely understand that you do not owe anything to anyone , but I just ask you - do it.

It's cool that you've waited this long, but you should really check out the commit history on the project to get a better understanding of not only how much work has gone into it, but how constant the progress has been.  nikfreak is doing an amazing job, and the priority is to get a safe, reliable version on the model he has in his hands.  After that, focus can be shifted to figuring out the differences between the other firmware subversions.  Asking for it won't speed it up; it'll be ready when it's ready.  I'm sure if you wanted to spearhead a fundraising campaign so that these guys could do this full time rather than as side projects, where a good chunk of their time is trying politely to respond to everyone who hasn't read the history of the project to date... Well, they probably wouldn't complain about that.   ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: khalidbutt on April 14, 2015, 06:16:24 AM
I downloaded ML alpha4b on my canon 70D. I shoot some footage in raw and h.264 (canon build-in).somehow the RAW footage is not giving me that output that I expected. little grainy and blasted colour

I believe I am missing something. Can anyone help me in RAW video setting for 70D. I am new to this so maybe I am missing something
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: ecobio on April 14, 2015, 08:50:24 AM
Hi, I cannot find the audio settings menu in ML for 70D, can anyone tell me where it is hidden in the menus ?
Thanks a lot,
Eric
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: xsghost on April 14, 2015, 11:16:44 AM
Hi, I cannot find the audio settings menu in ML for 70D, can anyone tell me where it is hidden in the menus ?
Thanks a lot,
Eric

There is no audio submenu and no audio settings in this version of ML yet. You have  to control audio from the canon menu.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: yoyo75011 on April 15, 2015, 10:32:13 AM
ok thx  OlRivrRat

il n'y a pas d'autre solution ?

there is no other solution?



Bonjour Panda,
j'ai installé récemment ML sur 70D en suivant la vidéo suivante: https://youtu.be/_DtrFE39db4.
C'est très bien expliqué. Il faut bien suivre la procédure pour rendre tes cartes SD bootable, prendre une photo avant d'installer le firmware etc..
Bonne chance.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 15, 2015, 11:02:24 AM
Bonjour Panda,
j'ai installé récemment ML sur 70D en suivant la vidéo suivante: https://youtu.be/_DtrFE39db4.
C'est très bien expliqué. Il faut bien suivre la procédure pour rendre tes cartes SD bootable, prendre une photo avant d'installer le firmware etc..
Bonne chance.

This doesn't apply for Alpha 4b as there is a new installer available with 4b. There is no other supported way of installing ML to 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: tomp on April 15, 2015, 12:14:46 PM
I have a question about dottune. It seems to work with my camera. After the adjustement procedure do i have to have dottune module active (loaded) or can i disable it ? If i disable the dottune module will the microadjustment still present?

regards
Tom
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 15, 2015, 01:01:35 PM
I have a question about dottune. It seems to work with my camera. After the adjustement procedure do i have to have dottune module active (loaded) or can i disable it ? If i disable the dottune module will the microadjustment still present?

regards
Tom

Offtopic but: you can disable the module again once you did all your tests. The module clearly displays recommended values and also writes them to canon menu. Seems like you blindly trusted the module without verifying what it wrote to the canon menu...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 15, 2015, 01:28:06 PM
And something easily to be tested by himself.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: tomp on April 15, 2015, 02:23:43 PM
Thank You for reply. Indeed, looks like the module didn't write the values in canon menu. It suggested +2, and when i checked W and T were on "0" in canon menu.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 15, 2015, 03:15:00 PM
Thank You for reply. Indeed, looks like the module didn't write the values in canon menu. It suggested +2, and when i checked W and T were on "0" in canon menu.

Recheck that. It works over here. Be sure to read through the dottune thread and register your lens properly...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: tomp on April 16, 2015, 01:25:15 AM
I did it again and it worked. The adjustement stayed in canon menu even after disabling dottune menu. That was with 18-135 lense. Works like charm. Sadly, with 35 f2.0 canon IS lense the procedure doesn't end. LCD screen goes black and nothing happens. After few minutes camera goes standby. Both are registered. With prime lens i'v chcecked box in menu only to adjust "W".
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: jakepetre on April 16, 2015, 01:29:33 AM
Been following this thread since day one. And new user here! I just wanted to thank nikifreak and everyone else who's helping for working so hard. For users constantly asking if it'll work for their camera, please read the first post. For users constantly asking when it will work for all 70D models, please read the first post. Personally, I am happy to wait however long I need to. I'd much rather use a finely tuned camera than one with buggy software. Needless to say I'm still anxiously waiting! Keep up the great work everyone. I'm showing this thread to all my 70D friends and telling them to donate.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: gulnaz on April 16, 2015, 06:11:35 AM
I installed magic lantern in my 70D serial number 154045007708. the problem is when ever i go into magic lantern setting page after around 5-8 sec it pulls me out of magic lantern setting page back to camera default page.

also in one of the installation videos referred : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1YOAPxWe0I at time code 0:35 of the video it shows autoexe.bin (file size = 406912) and ML70D111.FIR (filesize 235676) where as the downloaded version file size is 448KB and 29KB respectively.

Is there any file that is not mentioned or is it suppose to be that much of size ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 16, 2015, 06:36:00 AM
All Q answered in first post of first page.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: TKF Productions on April 16, 2015, 09:39:01 PM
Bonjour Panda,
j'ai installé récemment ML sur 70D en suivant la vidéo suivante: https://youtu.be/_DtrFE39db4.
C'est très bien expliqué. Il faut bien suivre la procédure pour rendre tes cartes SD bootable, prendre une photo avant d'installer le firmware etc..
Bonne chance.

Yoyo - The annotation at the top of that video (and in the description) clarifies regarding the Alpha4b build.  I actually posted a new video showing the installation process for the current version which is very quick and extremely easy, check it out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaIO6190pM4
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: carlos787 on April 17, 2015, 02:29:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhjzkQIjoQw

hey guys, just wanted to share a little video, let me know how it looks.
 :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: bigorna on April 17, 2015, 03:16:44 AM
This video is not available anymore....
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: xsghost on April 17, 2015, 09:47:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhjzkQIjoQw

hey guys, just wanted to share a little video, let me know how it looks.
 :)

Very nice. Did you shoot it in raw?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: sergey on April 17, 2015, 10:46:58 AM
How i can  skip  a start  ML pressing when I power ON ( hold down the press any key(set, play or ...?) at power ON )  ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 17, 2015, 11:01:16 AM
SET
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: sergey on April 17, 2015, 11:27:07 AM
did not work.
how many seconds to hold down?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 17, 2015, 11:31:25 AM
Make sure you haven't reassigned buttons in Canon menu. Turn off cam. Press SET and keep it pressed. Power on. Wait some seconds and release SET.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: sergey on April 17, 2015, 11:53:31 AM
Wait some seconds  ---  2-3 or 10  seconds ?
after that the menu  ML  should not appear ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 17, 2015, 11:56:19 AM
Yes. You may press Trashcan button and ML menu should not pop up.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: TAVOLIDO on April 17, 2015, 11:38:14 PM
this is what happens when i try to install the firmware... any suggest? https://youtu.be/pmyz1bduHtw
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: bsauce42 on April 18, 2015, 12:54:09 AM
Read the first post.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: jpturner on April 18, 2015, 11:44:35 PM
70D the only camera that Canon cannot be improve...

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/standard_display/support_pro/pro_firmware-updates

Except for Canon giving us a "unified" firmware update so that we "all" can have ML on our 70D's... I just thought I'd throw that out there for the Canon engineers who (we all know) read these ML forums.  Please guys?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: gulnaz on April 19, 2015, 07:44:08 AM
I have some problem with magic lantern. I have found that I do not see bitrate (CRB) values in movie section. maybe im missing something.

Also, I shoot in both raw and ML raw format but somehow when I change ISO values nothing happen. to brighten the screen / shot I have to increase EV value but ISO doen't seems to work in my 70D.

Lastely, shooting in RAW/ML format I always have lots of grain and noise in my footage.

please help
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 19, 2015, 07:01:06 PM
                  Guinaz

        The 70D only allows ISO Control for Videos if you are in Manual Mode ~ In All other Modes the ISO is Auto ~ Could that be your cause ~

I find this to be VeryAnnoying & Don't understand why Canon Chose to do that ~ Perhaps that could be the FirmwareUpgrade We SoDesire ~

Canon, Please give us the ability to Choose Manual or Auto ISO Control in AllModes ~

                                                                                                                  ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: grey on April 19, 2015, 07:18:37 PM
                  Guinaz

        The 70D only allows ISO Control for Videos if you are in Manual Mode ~ In All other Modes the ISO is Auto ~ Could that be your cause ~

I find this to be VeryAnnoying & Don't understand why Canon Chose to do that ~ Perhaps that could be the FirmwareUpgrade We SoDesire ~

Canon, Please give us the ability to Choose Manual or Auto ISO Control in AllModes ~

                                                                                                                  ORR ~ DeanB



I think iso is auto for jump less exposure changing. If we fixate  iso camera can change only shutter and iris. Iris is very slow and change boke, shutter speed changing will appear in different motion blur between frames and flickering in fluorescent light. So only one parameter that painlessly changeable is iso.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 19, 2015, 09:59:48 PM
                                     Grey

          I Understand & Can Appreciate that ~ But ~ I think it should be the ShootersChoice ~ Not Canons Mandate ~

                                                                                                                            ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: gulnaz on April 20, 2015, 03:04:03 AM
You are right OlRivrRat...no ISO ability in any other mode. Not only this all my raw videos have so much of noise and grains and i could not find any proper solution for that.

Also when i shoot at 1536x968 at 2.50:1 aspect ration and convert raw file using raw2dng the outcome is mostly footages are pink and cut half. When i export raw or ML file directly into premiere it is better than dng result but lots of noise.

I have tried all ways and i guess at this point maybe i have to wait for the stable release for 70D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: grey on April 20, 2015, 04:02:51 AM
                                     Grey

          I Understand & Can Appreciate that ~ But ~ I think it should be the ShootersChoice ~ Not Canons Mandate ~

                                                                                                                            ORR ~ DeanB

if you're experienced enough, why do you need P mode? But for beginners full auto P mode is good enough. IMHO.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: sergey on April 20, 2015, 10:01:25 AM
I can  skip  a start  ML pressing  only once after make bootable SDXC card.
After i run Intervalometer ,  mlv record   ....  and  skip  a start  ML pressing  --   stops working ( press Trashcan button and ML menu  pop up ). ( remove the battery   does not solve the problems ).
Only i have this problem ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 20, 2015, 11:17:04 AM
One of you with old revision 70D (=which isn't supported) plz get in contact with me by PM.

Done!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: jakepetre on April 20, 2015, 11:30:52 AM
One of you with old revision 70D (=which isn't supported) plz get in contact with me by PM.
I have the old version.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: gulnaz on April 20, 2015, 04:26:27 PM
how would i know my canon 70D is old ? my serial number is 154056007708
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: xsghost on April 20, 2015, 06:09:58 PM
Is there a way we could have these 2 paramount features working for the 70D also:
-Enable D-Pad to control WB and ISO while recording, like on the regular version of ML
-Display Rec Time and Remaning Rec Time on screen while recording, like on the old 2.3 ML?

I feel these 2 little things are what enables ML to transform the Canon DSLR into a powerful video camera. These are the places in which the Canon firmware lacks.
And I'm no programming savvy, but intuitively I feel these 2 issues, which were present and working on older ML versions, should be relatively easy to address in the 70D version. Right?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: mrpanda on April 21, 2015, 03:53:40 PM
salut,

j'ai suivi la vidéo et ça ne marche toujours pas :/

cela ne fait rien.
je sélectionne mise a jour et il installe  mais quand il revient à l'écran il ne se passe rien il me dit pas que magic lantern est installer et quand appuis sur la poubelle cela ne fait rien   

hi,

I followed the video and it still does not work: /

it does not matter .
I select update and installs but when he returns to the screen it nothing happens he not tell me that magic lantern is installed and when pressing on the garbage that does not matter
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: jakepetre on April 21, 2015, 05:38:42 PM
salut,

j'ai suivi la vidéo et ça ne marche toujours pas :/

cela ne fait rien.
je sélectionne mise a jour et il installe  mais quand il revient à l'écran il ne se passe rien il me dit pas que magic lantern est installer et quand appuis sur la poubelle cela ne fait rien   

hi,

I followed the video and it still does not work: /

it does not matter .
I select update and installs but when he returns to the screen it nothing happens he not tell me that magic lantern is installed and when pressing on the garbage that does not matter

Bonjour, mis ton SD et utiliser le function: "Format Card" avant installation. Unzip ML sur ton SD et mis dans ton camera. Prends un photo avant installation.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: jakepetre on April 21, 2015, 05:41:36 PM
This is an update for everyone with a different firmware than the rest of us.
For users who are unable to install because they have an earlier camera unit: Nikki is working with a few of us on making an alternate firmware installer. So far nothing is functioning but we are close to having ML installed on all the 70D's that don't fit the existing criteria. Thank you for waiting patiently.
<<UPDATE>>
Binary for 111B is working! Now waiting for a working build! Big thanks to Nikki and a1ex for the progress!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: Toni_m_m on April 21, 2015, 07:16:39 PM
I'm happy to tell all of you guys that Nikfreak and A1ex have done great job to get magic lantern to work on 70D version B. At this moment i have it running on my camera and testing that everything works. (http://s1.postimg.org/wlmq3adwv/11158044_904233996281331_1288797851_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: bsauce42 on April 21, 2015, 07:20:06 PM
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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: jakepetre on April 21, 2015, 07:30:47 PM
I'm happy to tell all of you guys that Nikfreak and A1ex have done great job to get magic lantern to work on 70D version B. At this moment i have it running on my camera and testing that everything works. (http://s1.postimg.org/wlmq3adwv/11158044_904233996281331_1288797851_n.jpg)

I may have loaded the wrong build!  :-[ I'm getting a black screen whenever I turn on cam with the SD card in. If I remove the card and the battery and reinsert the battery without the card it turns on. HELP!
<<FIXED>>
Nikkifreak is amazing
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 21, 2015, 07:54:16 PM
Great you guys with 70D_111B hopefully will help me in creating some screenshots / videos with a build I am going to provide with you (soon). Especially with FPS override. So I expect you to stay active on the forums and help to solve some quirks which are left. It could be alittle bit time consuming but should be worth it...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: UrbexJoe on April 21, 2015, 08:12:36 PM
I would happylie help testing with my old rev  B 70D :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: jakepetre on April 21, 2015, 08:27:25 PM
Build 'Nightly.2015Apr21.70D111B.zip' First impressions:

Overlays
-Zebras: OK
-Focus Peak: OK
-MagicZoom: OK
-Cropmarks: OK
-Ghost Image: OK - Auto Update a little buggy
-Spotmeter: OK
-False Color: OK
-Histogram: OK
-Waveform: OK
-Vectorscope: OK

Shoot
-Advanced Bracket: OK
-Intervalometer: OK
-Bulb Timer: OK
-Motion Detect: ?*
-Mirror Lockup: ?
-Flash Tweaks: ?

*?=Haven't tested yet

Main issue is whenever I'm navigating through the menu the camera likes to jump back into shooting mode.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha4 14th March)
Post by: nikfreak on April 21, 2015, 08:28:25 PM
I would happylie help testing with my old rev  B 70D :)


keep pressing F5. I am feeling like this:

done
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 21, 2015, 08:46:35 PM
Updated first post with download links and changelog.

Great you guys with 70D_111B hopefully will help me in creating some screenshots / videos with a build I am going to provide with you (soon). Especially with FPS override. So I expect you to stay active on the forums and help to solve some quirks which are left. It could be alittle bit time consuming but should be worth it...

I want you to test FPS override function and take screenshot or video of how it acts. It's really weird and took me dozens of hours but I couldn't seem to find a fix for it. Timer B settles in correctly in

But only HighJello fastTv works as it should (using only timer A)

The other modes listed above create weird colors on screen. can you guys help to analyze what's going on? For e.g. in exact fps video mode I need to manually adjust timer A to get the desired FPS working. Starting at 23fps this is something around 732 (timer A) and as far as I recall I had to settle in something around 1192 for something around 15fps. FPs timer A can be adjusted by 100+ or - by pushing to left/right when focused on "shutter range value". It's really hard to describe but once you play around with it you will get what I mean. This is where I want you to help and note down when and how you get it to work. Posting a screenshot or a short video of the LCD output could be also helpful for the masters to understand what is going on.....

Note to myself: Disabling CONFIG_STATE_OBJECT_HOOKS or EVF_STATE(_SYNCH) doesn't help. FPS_UPDATE_FROM_EVF_STATE doesn't allow Timer B to settle in.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: UrbexJoe on April 21, 2015, 08:52:44 PM
You are my hero. I start testing asap. Danke fuer deinen Enthusiasmus und deine Arbeit!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 21, 2015, 08:55:23 PM
Just enjoy it @everybody. No hurry. There's so much to discover for all those new 70D_111B users now
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: pierre2fun on April 21, 2015, 09:14:31 PM
Nikfreak and the team have done an impressive job  8)

Here a 111B working ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: xsghost on April 21, 2015, 09:26:42 PM
How does one tell what 70D version he has?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 21, 2015, 09:30:45 PM
If your chosen ML version doesn't work it's the other one.
There is a new installer in development making life for 70D users (and others) much easier. That one will tell you what is going wrong. Yes, readable screen messages in case of failure.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 21, 2015, 09:41:23 PM
There is a new installer in development making life for 70D users (and others) much easier. That one will tell you what is going wrong. Yes, readable screen messages in case of failure.

already available in the downloads . read changelog :P  8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 21, 2015, 09:52:29 PM
Unfair! Late start and now we're left behind! Unfair! ;-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 21, 2015, 09:56:25 PM
Hey I am just manually cherry picking (https://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-cherry-pick.html). Dunno how it's called for mercurial
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: janoschsimon on April 21, 2015, 10:21:54 PM
OHHHHHHHHH NIK may i kiss you? ITS WORKING ON OLD FIRMWARE :-) first i tried A and the install said wrong battery out then B and it works :D

HURRAYYYY
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 21, 2015, 10:45:20 PM
                  Hey There NikF & Friends

        Appears to be working on my Earlyish 70D as well ~ Haven't had time yet to do anything more than load it & launch it ~ Got so excited that I didn't even think about going through the process of taking a Pic & being on the INFO screen & It worked anyway ~ Wanted to get back here to give a Huge 3CHEERS & BigThanks to You Nik ~ I had Planned to Dub You ~ St Nik ~ @ this point but since I'm not real big on organized religions ~ How does SirNik sound ~
        Also ~ Huge 3CHEERS & BigThanks ~ to All Of Those who Helped You in this process Nik ~

                                                                                                                    ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 21, 2015, 11:03:49 PM
        Also ~ There is something very weird going on with this Forum that just started happening in the last 1/2Hr ~ If I try to access any of the 1st 13Pages using FireFox as the Browser I get a "PageNotFound" 404Error ~ In Opera (which is what I use as my DefaultBrowser) All is working JustFine ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: a1ex on April 21, 2015, 11:08:44 PM
@OlRivrRat: I (and probably others) have difficulties reading your posts. Can you try to use plain English?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Smarty Pants on April 22, 2015, 12:56:01 AM
the original cameras that worked with the 4b version appear to be version "A"

all seems to function fine so far.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 22, 2015, 04:58:10 AM
                  Alex

   Sure I can, just for You, but only because You & Your partners in crime have been so seemingly undaunted & unbelievably generous with Your time & Your wisdom & also because You asked so nicely.
   In defense, please allow me to explain that I choose to write the way I do, in internet conversations, in an attempt to make it feel more like a conversation as opposed to a letter to the editor. I use Caps & join words together for emphasis & use Tildes as breaks or pauses to keep the flow going more like I'm talking to You rather than typing @ You. Due to the 148IQ that I am afflicted with, (& I don't say that to brag as it really does seem like an affliction a lot of the time) I stopped ColoringBetweenTheLines about 62Yrs ago @ the age of 8 & upon graduating high school, 10Yrs later, chose to start doing things MyWay (except for the 4Yrs I spent in the USAF). @ 70 now I pretty much like to do as I please as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else or cause anyone any undue discomfort. So, again, yes I will try to use proper english here ~ But it SeemsSoBoring ~
   Again, Thank You & the rest of the ML Team for your fine work & Thanks from my 5D & 5DM2 & now my 70D, We are Happier due to YouGuys .

                                       ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: jakepetre on April 22, 2015, 05:13:14 AM
Been testing nonstop
Any way to have focus peaking work in conjunction with magic zoom?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: RafQue on April 22, 2015, 05:30:48 AM
YES!!!!  :D

The day after tomorrow I will be boarding for my trip to South Africa and I will be testing this like crazy!  8)
Thank you soooo much Nik & Alex and all others involved!!!
Just installed it on my 70D and everything works fine so far.
You really made my day/week!  ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Chele on April 22, 2015, 06:54:00 AM
How dare you take a fine working firmware, modify it to your perverted preferences and then MAKE IT BETTER!!!!

Thanks!!!!  I have one of the earlier 70D versions and was not able to use ML until now.  Thanks, thanks, and again, thanks.  Now I have to re-discover my camera.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: erno on April 22, 2015, 10:25:32 AM
Thank you! Nikfreak and Alex (also Nanomad and all the people who´s been working with this, this great thing). This will be the last thank you post from me because its far better now to provide the information through testing?!
This is nice to b-revision posse also and very happy day. 
(Thank you, Thank you, thank you!  :) )

Installed new firmware 111B on "old" 70D. Install works
Update
- managed to produce a raw video and the picture quality is awesome! [emoji3][emoji23][emoji24]

Just getting know this beast but so far so good in the beginners hands. Not muchs data for "professionals" yet or I would like to say that its steady for me. Laters with more "deeper" topics and perhaps more helpfull things for devs.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: chann on April 22, 2015, 10:33:33 AM
This question have been asked before but i did not see an answer. So here goes ..when upgrading firmware camera says memory card with firmware missing. How to overcome this? TQ
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Berrob on April 22, 2015, 10:53:59 AM
Installed new firmware 111B on old 70D.
Install works

FPS override does not work on anything below 24 FPS.

Overlays : ok

I get quite regular Error 70 when trying to shoot raw video.

Restart fixes this.

You are an awesome dudes NikFreak and Alex!!!

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 22, 2015, 12:17:39 PM
Installed new firmware 111B on old 70D.
Install works

FPS override does not work on anything below 24 FPS.
...

I get quite regular Error 70 when trying to shoot raw video.


Ya FPS override doesn't work for me too. I didn't expect 1 sentence as an answer to this (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg145586#msg145586). Better take some shots with your smartphone to show what's going on. Use the "Advanced" menu in FPS override. Play around with timer B. Changed the shutter range / timer B value? What's the output? Got weird colors on your LCD / touchscreen? How does the cam react? ...

Quoting myself again:
Quote
Starting at 23fps this is something around 732 (timer A) and as far as I recall I had to settle in something around 1192 for something around 15fps. FPs timer A can be adjusted by 100+ or - by pushing to left/right when focused on "shutter range value". It's really hard to describe but once you play around with it you will get what I mean.


Error 70? Be more specific please. How to reproduce? Any crash logs on sdcard? Any other 70D_111B owners being able to confirm this?

@all: please state your cam model when reporting bugs (70D_111A / 70D_111B) or this will end up in confusions. Let's try to avoid that. I really don't want to ask a mod to split this thread or even create and maintain a separate thread for each 70D model. Not at this stage...

@70D_111B owners: Please one of you post a stub-api test logfile. Check your debug menu to find it...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: mrpanda on April 22, 2015, 12:42:46 PM
Hello,
super I managed to install ml B version on my 70d

but in my ML no sound menu and how do you record video in RAW I not find the option in the video menu


Bonjour,
super j'ai réussi à installer ml version B sur mon 70d

mais dans mon ML il n'y a pas le menu son et comment on fait pour enregistrer en video RAW je trouve pas l'option dans le menu video
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: pierre2fun on April 22, 2015, 01:20:34 PM
OK. report on the way.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: janoschsimon on April 22, 2015, 01:27:29 PM
Quote
Error 70? Be more specific please. How to reproduce? Any crash logs on sdcard? Any other 70D_111B owners being able to confirm this?


nope was yesterday evening so excited that i HAD to test raw :D and i tested raw and mlv raw and both without any error :-)

first i was shocked about auto iso :o but then i saw that i had the camera in P mode :D stupid me :D

have to test which resolution i can get with my Transcend Ultimate-Speed SDXC Class 10 UHS-1 64GB i get if remember correctly about 38mb/sec which is enough for 24p 720p continous raw yay D: but need to test more

ah and im on 70D_111B

the disapering menu is a little bit strange but still usable :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: aleixcastells on April 22, 2015, 02:19:58 PM
It works quite well. I recently made a video comparing the Raw recording in the Canon 70D versus the compressed video of the same camera. Here is the link for whoever is interested:

https://vimeo.com/125666437 (https://vimeo.com/125666437)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: ontheset on April 22, 2015, 03:25:05 PM
1st of all a huge thank you guys for the version B. I know how hard it is to work under forum conditions.

Now to my issues.

Everytime i'm in ML menu if i dont move the cursor it takes me out of menu.
the second one is that most of the time the bracketing and the info on the screen is all messed up until i half press the shutter button.
Now for this i dont know if its a usual thing but there is no way i can tell if have shot the raw file video until i put the card in my computer. Is there a way to fix that?
And finally and untill now is that when i try to run r2hdr.exe on windows7 it flashes the small window and nothing.

Thank you
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: erno on April 22, 2015, 03:28:25 PM
Mr Panda. Check out the video from YouTube called Magic Lantern on The Canon 70D and please operate after the video.  Theres not about sound but check that still out. Dont touch youre camera before video is ended. [emoji1].Worked best for me. I learned "all" the other things properly.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: masterhks on April 22, 2015, 04:10:01 PM
My canon 70D serial start 1130260... wich ML version is compatible for my 70D ... 111A or 111B? Tnx!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: janoschsimon on April 22, 2015, 04:14:13 PM
just try masterhks start with 111a and the installer will either install or tell you to use the other piece of cake :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: masterhks on April 22, 2015, 04:23:47 PM
Thx man this is my first time to install ML, do you ML spoil my camera if ML is not compatible ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: janoschsimon on April 22, 2015, 04:38:39 PM
take your time and read the first post when you do everything like its written nothing should be damaged im not aware of any broken cam but on the other hand you do everything on your own risk but as you can see lot of people had sucsses :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: jakepetre on April 22, 2015, 05:04:23 PM
Error 70 when using dual-ISO in photo mode: Battery pull fixes
Restarting turns off modules (They are automatically disabled during crashes)
Getting some funny colors in between power cycles.
Will provide crash log when I can.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 22, 2015, 05:05:51 PM
ok that could mean that I need to privide adtg_gui for 70D_111B. You guys would have to check the adtg registers.

Anyone else able to confirm dual_iso not working on 70D_111B???
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: jakepetre on April 22, 2015, 05:18:36 PM
ok that could mean that I need to privide adtg_gui for 70D_111B. You guys would have to check the adtg registers.

Anyone else able to confirm dual_iso not working on 70D_111B???

Dual ISO does work...albeit it looks kinda funny for image review (maybe that's because I've never used ML before and am seeing everything for the first time). I had the Err 70 when reviewing images taken with dual ISO and trying to disable the Canon overlays by pressing 'Info' a few times. It's likely that I overwhelmed the camera by doing too much at once. After restarting I've noticed that when reviewing dual ISO images, they normally cycle every second from bright to dark, but slow down when scrolling through pictures.
My biggest issue with ML is how it automatically backs out of the 'Q' mode in any setting I select if I don't press any buttons for 5 seconds. I can navigate the main menu just fine, but every submenu is a trick to use. Example: Trash can > ML Main menu > Overlay > Focus Peak > Threshold > *Poof!* back to shooting mode. This doesn't happen all the time, but for some power cycles it's omnipresent.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 22, 2015, 05:45:13 PM
My biggest issue with ML is how it automatically backs out of the 'Q' mode in any setting I select if I don't press any buttons for 5 seconds. I can navigate the main menu just fine, but every submenu is a trick to use. Example: Trash can > ML Main menu > Overlay > Focus Peak > Threshold > *Poof!* back to shooting mode. This doesn't happen all the time, but for some power cycles it's omnipresent.

1st post plz. scroll down to "what's not working". Follow the link there. Feel free to help fixing it or learn to live with it until it gets fixed for 6D / 70D...

Hint: Make your adjustments in photo mode (not Lv / movie). In photo mod eit doesn't disappear...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 22, 2015, 06:29:10 PM
            Won't be able to do much testing for a couple of days but so far have found that

1        "SET" button startup to avoid ML does not work for me. I reset buttons to DEFAULT & it still doesn't work.

2         If Start Up is done in Still Mode & then switched to LV or Video, the On Screen Level is frozen. If Start Up is done in LV or Video Mode the On Screen Level works fine.

                                                                                            ORR ~ DeanB ~ 70D+ML111B
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 22, 2015, 06:59:36 PM
        Correction for this - If Start Up is done in LV or Video Mode the On Screen Level works fine.

Should have said - If Start Up is done in Video Mode the On Screen Level works fine & continues to work fine if  I switch to LV.

                                                                                               ORR ~ DeanB ~ 70D+ML111B
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Makadamia on April 22, 2015, 07:40:05 PM
Nice, works on my 70D (70D 111 B) :)

Good work, looks very promising. Going to test now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: masterhks on April 22, 2015, 07:42:55 PM
do you like to tell me your first five number of your camera my start with 1136... i like to install ML on my camera but i dont know witch wersion 111A or 111B
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 22, 2015, 07:52:52 PM
Try any version. The wrong one will tell you to use the other one.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: mrochlin on April 22, 2015, 08:16:00 PM
Small note on the installation instructions:
It's a bit confusing that at the top it says
Download cr2hdr.exe compatible with 70D for Windows
Download cr2hdr compatible with 70D for Mac (thx N/A)

but a bit lower in the same post it offers:
Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111A or Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111B

From the Changelog, I think the installers listed at the top are what I want - and that they will automatically figure out whether I have the newer or older firmware version 70D.    I tried searching a couple of ways and could not find the serial number cut-off for older/newer.   It might be nice to add that to this post or to the change-log   remove the option to download an A or B version from the main announcement.

ALSO: I had my main PCB replaced in a warranty repair (last week).   So probably it has the newer firmware.  Since I can't find the serial # cutoff, I'm not sure if it had the newer firmware even before replacement.  Would the new installer look for the serial #  identify the firmware itself in someway.  Since my PCB is newer than the body there could be a mismatch.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: a1ex on April 22, 2015, 08:22:05 PM
There is no mention of "serial" in the first post. What's wrong with you, guys?!

Also:

Just read the 1st post, accept what is written there and plz stop posting any serial numbers. They don't matter.

Try any version. The wrong one will tell you to use the other one.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 22, 2015, 09:45:17 PM
                    Mrochlin

Download cr2hdr.exe compatible with 70D for Windows
Download cr2hdr compatible with 70D for Mac (thx N/A)

   Those are Links to Software you may need to handle Post Processing of shots acquired via certain ML Functionality ~


Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111A or Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111B

   Those are the Links that will get you ML for your 70D ~ If you don't know if your 70D has the Older or Newer Firmware

just download both 111A & 111B & try them ~ The Correct 1 will load & the incorrect 1 will not.

                           ORR ~ DeanB ~ 70D+ML111B
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: mrochlin on April 22, 2015, 10:18:46 PM
Thanks for the clarification.

A lot of people have been hoping/waiting for the 70D version and the work is really appreciated(!)

Since CanonRumors and some other sites sort of announced "ML Is Here!" for the 70d today, you may be getting others who haven't been following the 30 odd pages of posts here.   It was a little fuzzy to me that the chr2hdr executables were not the ML install and I thought the links further down were redundant.  Now I see the 70d_111A or B versions were the main ML code.   It might be clearer for newbies/referred folk like myself if
- The main installers were at the top of the post
- It was clarified that you just need to try both to see which works and that the only way to know if you have a 111A or 111B firmware camera (at the moment) is to try one or the other and see if you get a black screen.

Otherwise, people will naturally inquire which one they should download (if they haven't been reading the whole thread).   People are probably (like me) going to presume there's a serial # cut-off since Canon camera age follows with serial # and one firmware is older than the other.

Thank you (again) for the work.  I will read more of the forum posts before attempting any install.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: RickK on April 23, 2015, 01:59:43 AM
In reply to: "SET" button startup to avoid ML does not work for me. I reset buttons to DEFAULT & it still doesn't work.

I found the same except I am new to ML so not sure if I was doing it correctly. However, I accidently discovered that I can inactivate  by pressing SET when the camera has gone to sleep.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 23, 2015, 02:35:03 AM
Kudos Kudos Kudos to Nik & big bear hug for Alex for helping out to get 70D B up.
Just like the song "Loving every minute of it".

Here's my first observation, noting that for 1600x680 @ 2.35:1 at ISO > 100, hot pixels
being seen after about 10-15s into a video. At higher ISO they appear more frequently. 
Ive only got mlv_rec Mlv_play modules loaded. 

Added:  I never see any hot pixels in 1080p h264 video, or still raw/jpgs.   Since they
are not constant in location and increase over time, I think some canon correction program is not
running.

However at ISO 100 no hot pixels.  I tried it with Canon standard pic style, and Marvels 3.4. 

If you are ever in the Big Smoke "Toronto" area drinks on me ...

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 23, 2015, 02:46:04 AM
Thanks to @nikfreak as well as everyone else on board for releasing the B version...

https://vimeo.com/125748819 (https://vimeo.com/125748819)

More in-depth details to come...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 23, 2015, 05:36:00 AM
   Apporx' 30secs after startup, in Still Mode, the Red Activity LED starts Flashing every 4secs. If startup is done in Vid' Mode this dose not happen ~

                              ORR ~ DeanB ~ 70D+ML111B
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: chmteacher on April 23, 2015, 05:40:42 AM
Hi guys, long time follower but just registered. I've been using Alpha4b and wanted to upgrade to 5. I've read the first page of the thread a million times but just want to make sure all I have to do is delete the existing ML folder with autoexec.bat in root then extract the new zip to the SD card. I don't have to uninstall 4b first right? :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: chmteacher on April 23, 2015, 06:07:25 AM
I gave it a shot and just deleted trying 'b' version first. LCD did not display anything when turning it on which was pretty scary. Installed 'a' version and it worked.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: a1ex on April 23, 2015, 06:26:11 AM
I gave it a shot and just deleted trying 'b' version first. LCD did not when turning it on which was pretty scary.

@nikfreak: you must include this in the B build, to avoid such issues:
Code: [Select]
-// TODO: add 70D_111B once found
+#define SIG_70D_111B 0xdd6f9eb3
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: inestima on April 23, 2015, 12:12:53 PM
@nikfreak

thanks for b rev!

Quote
@70D_111B owners: Please one of you post a stub-api test logfile. Check your debug menu to find it...

do you still need these log files? do I need to do an fps video test before I run the log or no?

* pertaining to the forum: how do I quote people? I have no quote button at the top right of people's posts... I just have a list beneath my reply of the last 10 posts or so.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: kubodhi on April 23, 2015, 02:31:32 PM
* pertaining to the forum: how do I quote people? I have no quote button at the top right of people's posts... I just have a list beneath my reply of the last 10 posts or so.

Once you start your reply, below where you type your comment you'll see the recent posts on the thread, and each will have an "Insert Quote" button.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: inestima on April 23, 2015, 02:45:39 PM
Once you start your reply, below where you type your comment you'll see the recent posts on the thread, and each will have an "Insert Quote" button.

So I can't quote earlier posts then?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 23, 2015, 02:56:45 PM
So I can't quote earlier posts then?

You can but it's not a single-click action. You may have to use clipboard and mark copied text as quote. Finetuning (= link to the post quoted) has to be done manually.
You may ask why all this circumstances. It's because we had more than our share of full-quotes ...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: inestima on April 23, 2015, 04:13:41 PM
Thanks for the info @kubodhi and @walterschulz
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Conaxe on April 23, 2015, 05:58:28 PM
   Apporx' 30secs after startup, in Still Mode, the Red Activity LED starts Flashing every 4secs. If startup is done in Vid' Mode this dose not happen ~

                              ORR ~ DeanB ~ 70D+ML111B
"B" version

having the same experience

And the same thing that was said about not pressing "Q" for +/- 5 seconds that ML menu disappears.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 06:01:32 PM
...
do you still need these log files? do I need to do an fps video test before I run the log or no?

yes, I do. One user posted me yesterday a link on google drive but didn't allow me access to it the same time. On the other side: no one tried yet to see which stubs passed??
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: phengaris on April 23, 2015, 06:02:56 PM
Hey there!

First off all, thank you for your engagement to run ML on the 70D! I'm already enjoying it on my "old revision camera"!
But there are a few things I'd like to ask you.

First off all: The Canon interface isnt working properly. You'll see it in the attachments.

1. ML Interface (works damn fine!) :)
(http://i.imgur.com/37JABsB.jpg)

2. Canon Interface (some elements missing)
(http://i.imgur.com/eBudVxB.jpg)

3. Canon Interface after pressing the touchscreen on the spots where those elements should be.
(http://i.imgur.com/6DrMK5p.jpg)

Is that a commonly known problem?

The 2nd thing is about the FPS Override:
 I tried several shots today (0,5; 2, and 10 FPS) - there were many lags in every take. Sometimes the recording stopped for some seconds and then it continued.

And the 3rd question for you is about the temperature.
When I was outside it was no problem, the temp of the camera was about 40°C (18°C outside, slightly windy and in the shadow)
I tried it again in my room. Made those pictures you see of my interface and filmed for 13mins on a tripod. So the camera was running for about 20 mins, and the temp rised to 55 - 59°C. Is this still normal? I shut off the cam because the temp sign turned red :)

Thanks in advance,

cheers,
phengaris
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 06:05:52 PM
Someone post stubs api logfile for 70D_111B plz
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: inestima on April 23, 2015, 06:39:04 PM
Someone post stubs api logfile for 70D_111B plz

The file is 1GB is that right? test.dat?

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 23, 2015, 06:58:05 PM
@nikfreak:

Here's the stub-api test log file from 70D_111B per your request...

https://mega.co.nz/#!ytV2TZRZ!TAWT6_BxO9alqpiJrzI36ddu1f79LWh2JAeXMpFF81w

Anyway here's what the Dual-ISO footage are looking like coming straight out of 70D_11B (Alpha 5):

https://vimeo.com/125819311 (https://vimeo.com/125819311)

In this particular clip which shows two regular MLV's and two Dual-ISO MLV's... kind of strange effects? Possible bug?

More testings to come...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: lojzik on April 23, 2015, 07:01:24 PM
Someone post stubs api logfile for 70D_111B plz
If I run stubs api test, it crashes

ASSERT: IsSuiteSignature( hSuite )
at ./PackMemory/PackMem.c:1115, task run_test
lv:0 mode:2

edit: my next test was without error
https://mega.co.nz/#!BUhx0JCA!fGJprVd0bNAzNXTc4lG5dSOkqoP0lsov4CuEuA1inMM
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: Conaxe on April 23, 2015, 07:36:44 PM
If I run stubs api test, it crashes

ASSERT: IsSuiteSignature( hSuite )
at ./PackMemory/PackMem.c:1115, task run_test
lv:0 mode:2
Same here again

"Creating a 2gb file.  40/130"

Somewhere in the 40' while making those packages, screen went black and it shuts down by its own. No extra modules where installed. Just Plain alpha5
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 07:54:01 PM
@nikfreak:

Here's the stub-api test log file from 70D_111B per your request...

https://mega.co.nz/#!ytV2TZRZ!TAWT6_BxO9alqpiJrzI36ddu1f79LWh2JAeXMpFF81w

Anyway here's what the Dual-ISO footage are looking like coming straight out of 70D_11B (Alpha 5):

https://vimeo.com/125819311 (https://vimeo.com/125819311)

In this particular clip which shows two regular MLV's and two Dual-ISO MLV's... kind of strange effects? Possible bug?

More testings to come...

Ok thanx for the stubs logfile. It contains 2 FAILS:

Code: [Select]
[FAIL] ABS((get_us_clock_value() - t0) - 310000) => 0x62d
[FAIL] MEM(dialog->type) => 0x414944

@a1ex which stubs could be wrong? regarding "ASSERT: IsSuiteSignature( hSuite ) I guess some memory / fio stub could be wrong. Would be nice if you could comment on this...

Regarding dualiso in video mode we need to recheck these with adtg_gui.mo:
Code: [Select]
FRAME_CMOS_ISO_START = 0x4045349a; // CMOS register 0000 - for LiveView, ISO 100 (check in movie mode, not photo!)
FRAME_CMOS_ISO_COUNT =          7; // from ISO 100 to 6400 (last real iso!)
FRAME_CMOS_ISO_SIZE  =         46; // distance between ISO 100 and ISO 200 addresses, in bytes

Please find attached a new buid for use with 70D_111B which contains adtg_gui module to check above CMOS register. Try to load adtg_gui.mo. Check CMOS 000 register and distance between ISO 100 and ISO 200 as seen above.
Download these nightlies and extract / overwrite to your sdcard to help checking FRAME_CMOS stuff for 70D_111B.

70D_111B (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRdUljZmZ3T25iWUE/view?usp=sharing)

Afterwards just redownload from 1st post and use that again.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: phengaris on April 23, 2015, 07:59:16 PM
Has someone an idea about my problems? Canon interface, FPS override or the temperature?
Do you need any more infos nikfreak?
Thank you,

cheers,
Phengaris
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 08:07:59 PM
FPS override is known to not working read through last pages of this thread to help noting down how and when it works. If that's nothing for you then stop using fps override. Temperature shown is not exact temperature. Your bug with canon interface pic2 looks interesting. How to reproduce exactly? I guess it happens due to:

Code: [Select]
[FAIL] MEM(dialog->type) => 0x414944
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 23, 2015, 08:12:11 PM
@nikfreak:

Just downloaded the new build per your request and overwrote it in SD card...

Went to Modules and there isn't a adtg_gui.mo enlisted?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 23, 2015, 08:14:26 PM
Ok Hot Pixels (not dead pixels) findings.
This seem to be related to three things.
1. Possible dirt - either sensor or lens.   If one is bold & careful clean the sensor.  Clean the lens, check if lens specific.
There is a sensor remap of hot/dead pixels trick which some have reported works for video for what cant be cleaned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJBuGhMnvFo

2. More hot pixels proportional to duration Liveview is on - some suggest the sensor is being cooked, and the hot pixels may become dead pixels if left on too long.  So one needs to take serious first sign of hot pixels, and try to resolve/clean up.
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1098707

3. Most observe that higher ISO means more hot pixels (via amplification) - But 70D has a high  ISO noise reduction, this is what I think may not be working 100% in rev B.  I will check it out more rigorously to see if different settings reduce it.
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-70d/canon-70dHI_ISO_NR.HTM

There a number of post processing fixes, but clearly one wants to remedy hot pixels to avoid them becoming dead pixels.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 08:18:23 PM
@nikfreak:

Just downloaded the new build per your request and overwrote it in SD card...

Went to Modules and there isn't a adtg_gui.mo enlisted?

My fault:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRZEtadnRFUEdTc0U/view?usp=sharing

Check that!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: lojzik on April 23, 2015, 08:28:29 PM
Your bug with canon interface pic2 looks interesting. How to reproduce exactly? I guess it happens due to:
Code: [Select]
[FAIL] MEM(dialog->type) => 0x414944
I have problem with canon interface too.
start 70D(B) -> start LV -> [info] -> canon screen (ok)-> [info] -> canon screen with histogram (ok)-> [info] -> screen with level indicator (ok)-> [info] -> screen with missing elements
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: phengaris on April 23, 2015, 08:31:07 PM
Thanks for your answer.
Ok, I'll have a look a the FPS override issue.
Interesting. If there is smth we can do to fix the interface bug / or to help you by giving you any data just tell us.

cheers
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 08:32:56 PM
naaah going to check those dozen dialog / display stubs manually. Could take some minutes...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 08:39:40 PM
Found it:


/** Dialog API **/
NSTUB(0xFF4E20E0,  dialog_redraw)
NSTUB(0xFF393CDC,  dialog_set_property_str)

/** Dialog handlers **/
NSTUB(0xFF4E20E0 NoGo same as above  :P,  ErrCardForLVApp_handler)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 08:48:46 PM
Ok here is a new download for 70D_111B. better now? can you redo "Burn-in test - > Stubs api" and post the file here?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRWVlWM0hCSzllbGM/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 23, 2015, 08:49:50 PM
Should I use this one instead of the previous one you sent from earlier post above?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 08:50:52 PM
It's the same with adtg_gui just the stub avove fixed. Why not? if you didn't already find the COS register with the older download. The stubs api test with this new download should be ok. Just post the result plz.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: phengaris on April 23, 2015, 09:08:39 PM
Thank you nikfreak!
I just removed ML from my SD card and replaced it with the new version. Still this strange Canon-interface problem...
cheers,
Phengaris
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: a1ex on April 23, 2015, 09:10:52 PM
Quote
[FAIL] MEM(dialog->type) => 0x414944

When all else fails, look at the source code (and also at the comments).

;)

Indeed, this is why you get artifacts on Canon GUI. Without it, on 5D3 at least, it's completely unusable.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: lojzik on April 23, 2015, 09:11:43 PM
Ok here is a new download for 70D_111B. better now? can you redo "Burn-in test - > Stubs api" and post the file here?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRWVlWM0hCSzllbGM/view?usp=sharing
https://mega.co.nz/#!BUhx0JCA!fGJprVd0bNAzNXTc4lG5dSOkqoP0lsov4CuEuA1inMM
edit: https://mega.co.nz/#!1RB1zZJY!hnKLzFsj7iYLEagbxVdFRbNZcLmdBwvNF0MWI2iaNrk
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 09:32:54 PM
Ok let's try a new DLG_SIGNATURE  :P

70D_111B:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRdzRFaDFSZmMtVVU/view?usp=sharing

Download that and repost stubs-api log again plz. Better now?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: lojzik on April 23, 2015, 09:39:37 PM
stubs-api log: https://mega.nz/#!UdZEgC5T!V8wiKDQ2ERISyWJWJq8Mp8MBCOcJNnYQaaz8eQXgt8U
interface ok
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: phengaris on April 23, 2015, 09:46:57 PM
Thank you guys!!
I will give it another try tonight. What do you recommend to reinstall ML? Delete old files from card and put new ones on it or just replace the old ones without deleting them?
Cheers
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 09:57:21 PM
Ok, replaced download link in 1st post for 70D_111B with the new one. All 70D_111B owners download that and use it. Thx for posting the required logs. Next, let's get FPS override analyzed (read last pages to help)...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: MedicineMan4040 on April 23, 2015, 10:07:03 PM
Been enjoying ML on my 6D for almost two years it seems and no problems. NOW my 70D can be crowned Magic! Woohoo.
But I was an early early adopter.....please save me from reading the whole thread....but that is why there is a 111A and 111B correct?
Also is intervalometer working?
More importantlly, where is the donate button to say thanks via PayPal ????
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 10:09:13 PM
intervalometer works. Just try A or B. Installer will tell you what to do. Don't worry. Take a look at g3gg0's profile signature if you wanna help ML
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: phengaris on April 23, 2015, 10:13:52 PM
Interface works now.
I'm really impressed, thank you guys!!

Cheers,
phengaris
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5 21st April)
Post by: lojzik on April 23, 2015, 10:17:33 PM
2015Apr23.70D111B
problem in LV with level indicator in left upper corner on ML screen
start 70D -> LV -> ML screen, level indicator is changing -> [info] -> ... ->[info] ->ML screen, level indicator is static

edit: level indicator in corner (optionaly in center) works only if LV starts on ML screen.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: pierre2fun on April 23, 2015, 10:19:46 PM
Google Test form filled  8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 10:20:12 PM
2015Apr23.70D111B
problem in LV with level indicator in left upper corner on ML screen
start 70D -> LV -> ML screen, level indicator is changing -> [info] -> ... ->[info] ->ML screen, level indicator is static

have to look into that some time later. No idea atm. Someone on 70D_111A also reported electronic level to hang up exactly like you described. So applies for both.

@pierre2fun: too late. we passed the stubs test already.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: inestima on April 23, 2015, 10:23:50 PM
how to prevent crash from running stubs log?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 23, 2015, 10:26:02 PM
read 1st post. Changelog!!! New downloaf for 70D_111B. use that. If it still crashes afterwards then prove it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: inestima on April 23, 2015, 10:28:01 PM
got it. last time I try to help out here.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chann on April 23, 2015, 10:30:23 PM
"when upgrading firmware camera says memory card with firmware missing" by chann

Answering my own Q. I thought cam was looking for eos 70d firmware. No firmware updates published on any Canon sites. To make ML work do as per intro pg just download and extract either one of the alpha 5 versions and see which works. Thanks guys
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: janoschsimon on April 23, 2015, 10:42:39 PM
works fine keep up the great work guys :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 23, 2015, 11:02:18 PM
@nikfreak:

Take 2 on stubs-api log per your request... which now says "Zero Fails"  8):

https://mega.co.nz/#!yssyTTyA!WgiDQu4tQLD0F92yIqavW0QY30Q9kGtAxcO4Cbpsq0I

Now let's conquer that creepy FPS bug!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: 0_W_L on April 24, 2015, 07:12:56 AM
Ok, replaced download link in 1st post for 70D_111B with the new one.
Сheck please - archive damaged.
Thank you for your work!

upd/ I'm sorry, I came across an older version of the archiver
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 24, 2015, 07:27:09 AM
Сheck please - archive damaged.

Just downloaded zip and extracted it without any problems.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: pierre2fun on April 24, 2015, 08:24:37 AM
OK,

Sub test now works with the last version 23april 70D_111B

https://mega.nz/#!wVFkTCSY!Fa5q-2Xmti50sG0ub9kLHNLte3DzbEBIgEugilqpoiM
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 24, 2015, 08:55:36 AM
@nikfreak:

Before I go ahead and convert Dual-ISO footage (cr2, dng, MLV) -- curious if @N/A was able to provide you a cr2hdr20bit binary for 70D?

Or is that already included in the cr2hdr binary from first post?

I plan on replacing these binaries within @Danne's cr2hdr-r and see if it'll be able to convert them.

To drag and drop via Terminal is rather slow and painful... I prefer GUI's.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 24, 2015, 09:04:15 AM
Yes both (Win + Mac) download on top of 1st page are 20bit-cr2hdr for 70D. You going to convert dualiso photos or video?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 24, 2015, 09:28:18 AM
I'm primarily a Mac user here.

Yes, both photos and videos.

I replaced the cr2hdr20bit binary with the cr2hdr binary (assuming this is actually 20bit) from the link on first post (Thanks @N/A) but it doesn't seem to convert them after using @Danne's cr2hdr-r app (could be an error on my part)?

Videos still shows blueish/pinkish random flickering during Dual-ISO but as for Photos they seem to come out normal (with lines) but need to convert them properly somehow.

https://vimeo.com/125883959 (https://vimeo.com/125883959)

Can't wait for the day to come when theres a 20bit binary for all cams!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: kalinifta89 on April 24, 2015, 10:20:58 AM
Certainly within the forum is the information I'm looking for but could not find it. What is the difference between 70D_111A and 70D_111B? Also during installation you must remove the bg and non-original batteries? Thank you.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 24, 2015, 10:29:20 AM
Perhaps there are two different versions of 70D (older/newer) as far as we know, right?

How about try both and see which one works for you?

Doesn't hurt to try...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 24, 2015, 11:21:19 AM
@DeafeyeJeydi: did you already check adtg_gui.mo (module)?

I requested to check FRAME_CMOS register earlier...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 24, 2015, 11:23:39 AM
Oh I assumed I did it already?

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg145923#msg145923

Or no?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 24, 2015, 11:25:56 AM
That was the stubs test.
When you load adtg_gui it will show-up on debug menu. Let me know if it shows up / activates and prints lots of stuff...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 24, 2015, 11:27:23 AM
also read this regading CMOS registers I want you to check...
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg145872#msg145872
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: winfel on April 24, 2015, 11:37:57 AM
Hey! I hope I write this at the right place. I'm experiencing an issue with Dual ISO on my 70D Revision B, Magic Lantern Alpha 5b (that one that fixed the display issues). It seems to be related to the cr2hdr process though. I am using it on a Mac with the specialized version for the 70d provided in the first post.

I tried a test shot from my balcony. A reference shot in ISO 100 looks right, then I took a dual ISO 100/1600. When I look at that file in Lightroom CC, I see both the ISO 100 version and the ISO 1600 version interlaced and they both seem to be okay, so what the cam produces seems to be good. When I then converted it into a dng using cr2hdr in the result all highlights are simply blown away and cannot be brought back in lightroom. All the bricks of the building in the picture are just gone. It more or less looks like only the ISO 1600 picture.

Am I doing something wrong? I tried Dual ISO with my 550d a while ago and did not have any problems with that. Since then I have updated to Lightroom CC. Might the DNG creation process be an issue here?

One more thing: During replay of the Dual ISO file in the camera, it indicates to be switching back and forth between "bright" and "dark". The images I am seeing though seem to be very much alike. None of those is eighther darker or brighter than the other.

All my files are here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dnoiuhnqanjcbha/AADccyx0pHU2IiZhBCofNkM2a?dl=0

Edit: Found out it works well in Lightroom 5 but does not in Lightroom 6, so I'm quite sure it is not a 70D issue but rather related to either Adobe or the cr2hdr tool.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: pierre2fun on April 24, 2015, 01:16:32 PM
Quote
That was the stubs test.
When you load adtg_gui it will show-up on debug menu. Let me know if it shows up / activates and prints lots of stuff...

It works fine.
https://mega.nz/#!wUcjBCZA!z0ues1RClhaYK7jUtsmmLsHypNG0YceT-3JR2RF9CLw
https://mega.nz/#!YEMUyaDB!vWhDhaK_YQ7ajh3yMOWnHZUzfI8smTvE28W4cYFUnl0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: phengaris on April 24, 2015, 01:37:10 PM
Hey there,

I have another question concerning shooting in RAW.
I've read that the 70D output is throtteled down to 42mb/s. So it doesnt matter which SD card you're using, as long as it isnt under 42mb/s.
So when shooting raw @ 24fps the highest resolution you can choose is 1344x756? Am I right?

Thank you,
cheers,
Phengaris
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 24, 2015, 01:48:01 PM
It works fine.
https://mega.nz/#!wUcjBCZA!z0ues1RClhaYK7jUtsmmLsHypNG0YceT-3JR2RF9CLw
https://mega.nz/#!YEMUyaDB!vWhDhaK_YQ7ajh3yMOWnHZUzfI8smTvE28W4cYFUnl0


Please switch to movie mode and make a picture of CMOS 0000 at ISO 100. Press Q on activated ADTG registers module and it show you lots of results while in movie mode. Post also a screenshot of the liveview output of CMOS 0000 at ISO 100.

Can you confirm the following values for 70D_111B???
Quote
/* Movie Mode
        100 - 0x4045349a value (0x3)
        200 - 0x404534c8
        400 - 0x404534f6
        800 - 0x40453524
        1600 -0x40453552
        3200 -0x40453580
        6400 -0x40453ae value (0xdb) */
       
        is_70d = 1;   

        FRAME_CMOS_ISO_START = 0x4045349a; // CMOS register 0000 - for LiveView, ISO 100 (check in movie mode, not photo!)
        FRAME_CMOS_ISO_COUNT =          7; // from ISO 100 to 6400 (last real iso!)
        FRAME_CMOS_ISO_SIZE  =         46; // distance between ISO 100 and ISO 200 addresses, in bytes
       
        /* Photo Mode
        100 - 0x40451664 value (0x3)
        200 - 0x40451678
        400 - 0x4045168c
        800 - 0x404516a0
        1600 -0x404516b4
        3200 -0x404516c8
        6400 -0x404516dc value (0xdb)
        12800-0x404516dc value (0xdb) like ISO 6400 */
       
        PHOTO_CMOS_ISO_START = 0x40451664; // CMOS register 0000 - for photo mode, ISO 100
        PHOTO_CMOS_ISO_COUNT =          7; // from ISO 100 to 6400 (last real iso!)
        PHOTO_CMOS_ISO_SIZE  =         20; // distance between ISO 100 and ISO 200 addresses, in bytes
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: lojzik on April 24, 2015, 02:12:46 PM
        6400 -0x40453ae value (0xdb) */
6400 - 0x404535ae

edit:
if I have LV in photo mode, I have in cmos[0]
100 - 40453666 value 0x27
next values are different too
what is wrong?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: grey on April 24, 2015, 02:50:19 PM
Hey there,

I have another question concerning shooting in RAW.
I've read that the 70D output is throtteled down to 42mb/s. So it doesnt matter which SD card you're using, as long as it isnt under 42mb/s.
So when shooting raw @ 24fps the highest resolution you can choose is 1344x756? Am I right?

Thank you,
cheers,
Phengaris

If you talking about continuous recording you are right. But often 12-14 is enought for one shot. I'm shoot at 1824*776 fot 12-14 sec. If you need more rec time reducing resolution it's only way. Or buy camera with CF slot.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: winfel on April 24, 2015, 03:48:29 PM
Answering on myself. I tried it in LR5 on another computer and the file is just great... trying it out at home again later. Must have been something I was doing wrong.

Edit: Found out it works well in Lightroom 5 but does not in Lightroom 6, so I'm quite sure it is not a 70D issue but rather related to either Adobe or the cr2hdr tool.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: camslide on April 24, 2015, 04:51:14 PM
I have noticed, that since flashing ML alpha5b on my 70D (old firmware), the card access LED ist flashing every ~4seconds thoug the camera is turned off.  Is this normal or is it a bug?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 24, 2015, 06:24:08 PM
@camslide: tried to remove your battery? if that didn't help just reset ML to defaults via settings and retry.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: oaydin on April 24, 2015, 07:47:37 PM
Not sure if anyone is having this problem, I downloaded and am using the latest Alpha5b (today 23rd April), on my 70D.

Whilst in the ML menu after press the delete button, the ML menu screen quits by itself and then go straight back in to the Live screen. This happens whilst in video mode, not picture mode. I should also point out i'm Manual mode too. 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: pierre2fun on April 24, 2015, 07:53:51 PM
Quote
CMOS 0000 at ISO 100

Hum.  I am a newbee there so don't know how.

In video mode (1000 / ISO100) results are swapping between this :
https://mega.nz/#!4RNQlDLQ!U3myvwog5cqgv-4ZEvwU9Kg3ednP_snO-rQk9i0HEnA

and this:

https://mega.nz/#!9JN1gYiK!S-6GR67NZsM0wka0Ifm_8Rp-xeP0wflbiiS3M5jwJaM
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 24, 2015, 07:56:19 PM
Not sure if anyone is having this problem,

You may want to read the first post in this thread ...
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 24, 2015, 08:02:10 PM
That was the stubs test.
When you load adtg_gui it will show-up on debug menu. Let me know if it shows up / activates and prints lots of stuff...

Ah I thought it would be included in it, my bad -- However, I ran the stubs test again once more and got one failed. Not sure why?
https://vimeo.com/125934149 (https://vimeo.com/125934149)

also read this regading CMOS registers I want you to check...
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg145872#msg145872

Ran through the ADTG registers and scrolled through the CMOS sections to try put it in playback mode... this is what I'm seeing (not sure if I'm doing this correctly though):
https://vimeo.com/125935098 (https://vimeo.com/125935098)


Is it not a good idea to use the shutter wheel to change it's info per how I did it via clip above?  :-X ::)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: BirdPics on April 24, 2015, 08:44:14 PM
Hey everyone,

I'm an avid wildlife photographer but only just came across this. As i'm not rich enough to start bricking cameras yet I'm going to hold off using the Alpha version for a while. But I would like to know what features and if Magic Lantern would benefit me as a wildlife photographer. If someone could quickly explain I'd be very grateful, thanks :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: camslide on April 24, 2015, 09:09:38 PM
@camslide: tried to remove your battery? if that didn't help just reset ML to defaults via settings and retry.
One of both helped. Thank you!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 24, 2015, 09:43:11 PM

Is it not a good idea to use the shutter wheel to change it's info per how I did it via clip above?  :-X ::)


DeafeyeJedi plz press Q button on all that activated / changed registered (those which have a green dot color). Pressing Q will set default values. Use your posted video to see and check also the default / initial videos before you changed each of those. Better do not play around like you did but anyways thanx for providing needed information.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: wpociej on April 24, 2015, 10:42:58 PM
I've installed the ML in my canon (rev. B) and ML live view does not work at all, nor any overlays in live view. No matter what I enable it sill only displays default canon live view menu. Am I missing something, or is that some kind of bug?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on April 24, 2015, 10:52:50 PM
On version A I recorded some raw and mlv. I then deleted the files on the computer and when I put the card back in I got a load of error messages about modules not loading.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 25, 2015, 01:37:37 AM
@nikfreak:

Okay ill try that in momentarily soon. Would I be screwed if I had accidentally changed (good thing I was recording myself otherwise)?

What was the exact info you needed that I supposedly provided?

Because my gut feeling was telling me that I didnt do this correctly...  :-\
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 25, 2015, 01:38:54 AM
Ok so I used a blower and manual cleaned the sensor (a few times).
Removed the VAF.  and set high ISO NR to strong.
I notice lots of hot pixels at ISO 3200, they start at about 10s then slowly increase but at around 22s there are lots.

ISO 800, no VAF, high ISO NR strong = no hot pixels.

So something about 1600+ &  ISO liveview being on longer, is causing hot pixels ... hmmm perhaps its temperature or noise???

My T3i in MLV_raw does not have this is issue.  800 ISO is too low.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 25, 2015, 02:29:02 AM
    70D+ML111B 23AprA5B  "SET" button startup to disable ML still is not working for me. Is anyone else encountering this? Am I possibly doing something incorrectly?

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 25, 2015, 08:24:09 AM
@DeafeyeJeydi: no panic.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10111.msg145989#msg145989

Got all infos needed from your video. if I need more I will shout it out.

I notice lots of hot pixels at ISO 3200, they start at about 10s then slowly increase but at around 22s there are lots.

Anyone else having the same issue above described by ShootMeAlready?

    70D+ML111B 23AprA5B  "SET" button startup to disable ML still is not working for me. Is anyone else encountering this? Am I possibly doing something incorrectly?

Sounds like it's not working. i will check it. Works for me on 70D_111A. Recheck it plz. Power off cam. press set button and keep it pressed until sdcard led stops blinking (~2secs). This way it works for me...
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 25, 2015, 09:06:13 AM
@nikfreak:

Ya, saw that earlier right after I asked you about it. Good catch! [emoji108]

@OlRivrRat:

I'll try to duplicate the 'button startup to disable M' bug and check it out!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: MedicineMan4040 on April 25, 2015, 09:19:27 AM
BirdPics one thought for you.
Once I was on an island off s.Carolina doing bird photography. My problem was I needed to be in two places at one time.
With ML on my 6D I selected intervalometer, set up the camera/lens aimed at an osprey nest and let it click away hoping to catch the osprey returning with
a fish 'in hand'...meanwhile I'm at another location about a mile away actively imaging an eagle and eaglets on a nest.
So in this situation the beauty/utility ML gave me was an internal intervalometer so no need to connect anything, remember another cable or worry about batteries
in an external intervalometer.
You mentioned wildlife, so that goes beyond birds eh, so another area I love ML for is macro. The focus stack (though I can't remember what it is called in the ML menu, I'm at work and the 6D is at home) will allow when used with an auto-focus lens, the capture of many pics are various focal lengths of your macro subject that you can stack
in photoshop.
Just two uses among many many that ML offers.
I use the 70D solely for macro and astro now....and obviously am so looking forward to the intervalometer being internal with the 70D when I get the time for the install.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chann on April 25, 2015, 11:38:30 AM
wpociej

I've installed the ML in my canon (rev. B) and ML live view does not work at all, nor any overlays in live view. No matter what I enable it sill only displays default canon live view menu.

Try the info button. gd luck
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: wpociej on April 25, 2015, 11:59:45 AM
wpociej

I've installed the ML in my canon (rev. B) and ML live view does not work at all, nor any overlays in live view. No matter what I enable it sill only displays default canon live view menu.

Try the info button. gd luck


I've tried every possible button and nothing changes.. :/
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 25, 2015, 12:17:39 PM
Toggle through LV screen using INFO. Global Draw ON.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Carmona on April 25, 2015, 01:04:01 PM
Hey guys, first time using ML for me. Thank you Nikfreak and a1ex!
Quote
I notice lots of hot pixels at ISO 3200, they start at about 10s then slowly increase but at around 22s there are lots.
@nikfreak, same thing happend to me when shooting on ISO 3200. (using 2015Apr23.70D111B)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: BirdPics on April 25, 2015, 01:41:55 PM
@MedicineMan4040 

Thanks for the reply, that all sounds pretty interesting. I'm keen to try it out but what's the chances of breaking my camera at this point?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Canniballissimo on April 25, 2015, 02:59:52 PM
Friends, I have a problem. If I shoot RAW-video with a resolution 1824 * 1026, in the frame fit the entire image. If I shoot RAW-video at a lower resolution, the frame and the picture will fall circumcision. Tell me how to set that at different resolutions in the frame breaks the same thing?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 25, 2015, 03:38:24 PM
@NikFreak
Thanks for the Reply.
Made sure that Buttons are @ Default & tried again while holding Set Button as long as 20sec's - ML still Active. Not a Big Issue but would be nice to have. Understand if you want to fry bigger fish, like FPS Override.

@DeafeyeJeydi
Thanks to you also for the Reply.

                                                                                                                                          ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: aGill on April 25, 2015, 04:01:11 PM
@nikfreak - Anyone else having the same issue above described by ShootMeAlready?
(Quote from: ShootMeAlready
    I notice lots of hot pixels at ISO 3200, they start at about 10s then slowly increase but at around 22s there are lots.)

I got few hot pixels even at ISO 800 (RAW video 1792x762) with Alpha 4b:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHmjSHMsqBg

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 25, 2015, 07:20:53 PM
aGill  like your video, good focus through out. Your 800 ISO looks like my 1600 ISO. 
Yours is usable as I saw only 2 pixels, was wondering how many frames you got at 1792x792 per clip, 
I was getting about 400 frames before skip and then only 1-2 hotpixels at IS0 1600.

I tried the pixel remap, trick.  I am using high ISO NR = strong.    You may want to try those to see if helps. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJBuGhMnvFo

Next step is to buy the pen sensor cleaning kit. 
Will try to clean lens & try more fast glass (so far I have tried sigma 18-35 f1.8, 50-150 f2.8 ).

FYI: using Sandisk extreme pro 32GB card with 95Mb/s read/ 90MB/s write.
1824 x 776 @ 2.35 / 24fps got 14s.  Which is max res. (90% of 1920 @ 2.35)and totally usable for master shot pans, as typically pans at most is 10s. Wow!
1792x762 @ 2.35 /24fps   got 16s.  Good for pans.  Probably very usable for most dialogue shots.
1728x736 @ 2.35 /24fps   got 22s. Good for dialogue.  Rarely does one talk for 22s without need for a cut.
1600 x 680 @ 2.35 / 24fps got 62s.  Good for extended scenes. Wow!  This pretty much continuous for my purposes, as I never shoot past 30s. 
When tried 1792 with 2.39 aspect ratio only added less than 2 seconds.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Aaberg on April 25, 2015, 07:31:30 PM
Quote
    70D+ML111B 23AprA5B  "SET" button startup to disable ML still is not working for me. Is anyone else encountering this? Am I possibly doing something incorrectly?

I'm running the same version. I had to set the "SET" button to "Off" in Custom Controls. After that it worked for me.

Issue I've run in to: I can't seem to get the intervalometer working together with Full Res Silent Picture module. Both work on their own, but not together. It might be down to user error though.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 25, 2015, 08:00:31 PM
@Aaberg

"I had to set the "SET" button to "Off" in Custom Controls."

       Thanks for the reply ~ My "SET" button is set to "Off" in Custom Controls ~ Issue persists.

                                                                                                     ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bigorna on April 25, 2015, 08:56:47 PM
Pressing "SET" during start up wasn´t working also.
After setting "SET" to OFF, now I can boot without ML. Thanks for the tip.
Running 23AprA5B.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: pierre2fun on April 25, 2015, 09:19:22 PM
Next is

https://mega.nz/#!4Y10QIzY!HOjQ3oL-0ME0f9btRTQ-O7WISBXxGncQuejv2fivCU8
https://mega.nz/#!4c9TSJaR!AfzNHvR8ofceLHIX-1UFjgEZVsBQUmwzfKIAswW-CKk
https://mega.nz/#!gU0GnDrJ!hYeuc9cVZhVG6Owjgtiw31iFbjnWocipxzFZq1SqIfU
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on April 25, 2015, 11:03:49 PM
Rev.A

I got error 70 when I went to play back some raw footage (mlv). I had both raw and h.264 on the card already. Haven't had this happen before.
This probably isn't helpful.  :-\
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Toni_m_m on April 25, 2015, 11:31:03 PM
@nikfreak

Why is follow focus disabled? I did enable follow focus and rack focus and follow focus seems to work perfectly. rack focus will crash shortly after using.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: scottbastedo on April 25, 2015, 11:38:19 PM
How do I change the bitrate? I can't find it in the menus, and I've tried searching through this sub-forum to no avail. Do I have to enable something???
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 26, 2015, 12:54:03 AM
*feedbacks*

Here are some clips of RAW/MLV shot in ISO 800, ISO 1600 for hot pixels comparisons as well as MLV/RAW Dual-ISO still not being able to convert (apparently it works fine for Dual-ISO CR2 files):

https://vimeo.com/126014706 (https://vimeo.com/126014706)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 26, 2015, 04:02:16 AM
DefEye it seems you are seeing hot pixels at ISO 800 & 1600 as well.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chrisfrancia on April 26, 2015, 05:23:20 AM
Bug Report: Alpha5b Version (Most recent release on most recently supported camera)

MLV DNG Files
DNG file sequences extracted from MLV files do not open in any adobe program, error is "module could not parse file", Raw works, MLRawviewer allows export as .mov which works.

Red Dead Pixel
Stuck red pixel (same place) in all raw video above about 400 iso, it gets more noticeable as iso increases, may even be there but hard to see at 100 iso. Pixel is not in non raw video

Arrow Key Functions
Setting the arrow and set keys to do anything (kelvin/iso + white balance or brightness/saturation +reset) does not function. I attempted changing my keys to set to nothing, however i did not try setting to default or turning off the camera after i changed the settings so if they are working for someone else please tell me what your canon setting is and i will attempt.

Audio Bars
Audio bars are only visible if global draw is turned off, no menu option to turn them on

Movie Servo
There is a icon in the lower left of the screen when movie servo is turned on (in vanilla firmware) that is gone and was quite useful to switch between auto and manual focus without having to flick the lens switch during and before recording

Raw Video Recording
Exposure settings cannot be changed when recording raw video, is this a bug or a nuance?

also this is prob not the place to write this one but it would be super useful if all camera settings (iso/framerate/fstop/shutter/whitebal etc.) could be written to a single frame in raw video, or just even a log like is possible for h264 video]

also my set button previously would disable ML but no longer does this function either

I also wish the ML menu would open to the favorites menu or last place I was in after a restart
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: janoschsimon on April 26, 2015, 11:16:17 AM
hey there i got error 70 2 times when i tried higher resolutions and the mlv modul told me that a frame was skipped and stopped the recording hope that helps :-)

latest build on a Transcend Ultimate-Speed SDXC Class 10 UHS-1 64GB

cheers janosch
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on April 26, 2015, 01:11:54 PM
Got a few more crashes still just error 70. I'm using rev. A. There isn't one particular thing that I do to get the error all I can think of it is something to do with mlv.

These are the crash logs.
https://mega.nz/#F!71gyjZ7Q!cRrQ-DRur02tLFJKru5aBw
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 26, 2015, 01:38:46 PM
Got a few more crashes still just error 70. I'm using rev. A. There isn't one particular thing that I do to get the error all I can think of it is something to do with mlv.

These are the crash logs.
https://mega.nz/#F!71gyjZ7Q!cRrQ-DRur02tLFJKru5aBw

Audio during recording (MLV) is not yet supported by me. I must admit I got crashes myself weeks ago while trying it out once during mlv recording. So for now disable all audio related features / modules and you should be fine. ofc I will have a look into the issue but atm I am not doing any raw related stuff myself. You may ask yourself why the downloads contain mlv_snd module etc.? Cause it's the default when compiling from source. I didn't excplicitely exclude them. I recommend you to chose raw_rec instead of MLV for now. If you still get those crashes post them here again.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: true on April 26, 2015, 02:05:49 PM
https://vimeo.com/126037672

Ma first Raw test. THX
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: janoschsimon on April 26, 2015, 03:52:27 PM
Audio during recording (MLV) is not yet supported by me. I must admit I got crashes myself weeks ago while trying it out once during mlv recording. So for now disable all audio related features / modules and you should be fine. ofc I will have a look into the issue but atm I am not doing any raw related stuff myself. You may ask yourself why the downloads contain mlv_snd module etc.? Cause it's the default when compiling from source. I didn't excplicitely exclude them. I recommend you to chose raw_rec instead of MLV for now. If you still get those crashes post them here again.

ahhhhh i think i just ticked mlv sound :D will try without mlv sound if it then works :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 26, 2015, 05:21:49 PM
      On Screen Level, Freeze Issue, again ~

        If I access the ML Menu while in Vid' Mode or Stills Mode, Live View or ELV, the On Screen Level Freezes & Cam' needs to be Restated to get it back.

      Also ~

   "SET" button startup to disable ML still is not working for me. All Buttons are Set to Default. Even tried Resetting Buttons To Default with ML Uninstalled

then Reinstalled ML & No Change.

   I know these aren't important issues, just providing feedback.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB ~ 70D+ML111B
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 26, 2015, 10:08:16 PM
can you justify to reset cam via Canon menu to defaults and retry the whole installation with a fresh formatted card? I just think there's something wrong with your settings cause it works for me on 70D_111A. I don't think the codes for set button   (https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/src/5df522afc74d5b19345d5acb792cff7eded9b1ff/platform/70D.111B/gui.h?at=70D-merge#cl-18) could be wrong. You can check that yourself for PRESS and UNPRESS by setting a 300ms delay in debug menu. Check:

Show GUI evts

OFF
ON

ON - delay 300ms

Let me know your results.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 27, 2015, 02:38:17 AM
                            @NikFreak

Not sure I correctly understand what info your looking for but this is what happens after

       Show GUI evts

       ON - delay 300ms

            Is selected

   On SetButton   Press =      Ev15: p=      54 *0=
                                     Ev16: p=        4 *0=

         Unpress =   Ev17: p=        5 *0=

        I did an ML Uninstall, then Full Reset of Cam' settings, then Format of Card, then Reload of ML on Card, then Install of ML on Cam'

& SetButton StartUp Still leaves ML Active. Me thinks it just doesn't like me. I'm thinking that @ some point in the future it will decide

that it has messed with me enough & it will mysteriously just start working.

        I,m totally unfirmiliar with the "BelowGround" stuff but if there is other info you want , let me know & I'll try to find my way around

down there in the Dark.

        Thanks again for efforts ~

                                                                                                           ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 27, 2015, 07:47:58 AM
Thanx for your info. The button events are ok (4 and 5). I guess I can't do much atm to solve your problem but you can carry a second scard with you for the times where you don't want to startup ML. That will work.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bsauce42 on April 27, 2015, 07:49:12 AM
Works fine on "B"[emoji108]
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 27, 2015, 08:35:44 AM
*feedbacks*

I just decided to take a quick run through with MLV footage shot on 70D_111B (alpha5b 23rd April) and added Cinelog-C log with REC709 applied within AE (Special Thanks to @Andy600) just for viewing taste.

70D, EF-S 10-18mm STM, 1/50, f4.5, ISO 800 @ 10mm
Shot in 1728 x 972 @ 23.983 FPS:
https://vimeo.com/126097329 (https://vimeo.com/126097329)


Here's the workflow of how I used the Cinelog-C in AE:
https://vimeo.com/126098237 (https://vimeo.com/126098237)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: RickK on April 27, 2015, 02:30:19 PM
      On Screen Level, Freeze Issue, again ~

       

   "SET" button startup to disable ML still is not working for me. All Buttons are Set to Default. Even tried Resetting Buttons To Default with ML Uninstalled

then Reinstalled ML & No Change.

   
I am having the same issue with the SET button not working to disable ML_A on startup. Since not everyone has this issue, could it be ML version or Canon firmware specific?

                                 
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 27, 2015, 06:01:40 PM
Is there a specific reason why you guys want to get this SET button to disable ML at startup -- I mean who doesn't want to use ML?

Unless I'm missing a valid point in this never ending so called prodigy!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chrisfrancia on April 27, 2015, 06:05:48 PM
Personally I don't care if the set button doesn't disable ML on boot or not however, it still pays to figure out why it isn't working because other things may not work for the same reason (push white balance with set button)
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 27, 2015, 06:11:19 PM
True. I second that and also still wating for a fix to be able to use Arrow Key functions (there's no buttons configured to enabled it) as well as being able to change exposures during RAW video recording. Hopefully that's not the limitation of the 70D.

I also agree w @chrisfrancia regarding being able to use log files after recording Raw video (however, you can still dive into its metadata if recorded in MLV) but still would be a +1 for Raw.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 27, 2015, 07:51:09 PM
@chrisfrancia

@DeafEyeJedi

   SetButtonStart ~ Agreed & I'll 3rd that. Is it possible that there are 3 Versions of FW111 for Our 70Ds? Or is it possible

that it is SDCard Response Time Related ~ Since ML resides on the Card & this Command is required Immediately @Start?

All I have are Transcend 90MB/s 600X Cards but I have a friend with some fast LexarPros ~ I might give that a try.

   Also ~ Is anyone else having the Level Indicator LockUp issue ~

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 27, 2015, 08:00:12 PM
Is there a specific reason why you guys want to get this SET button to disable ML at startup....


True. I second that and also still wating for a fix to be able to use Arrow Key functions (there's no buttons configured to enabled it) as well as being able to change exposures during RAW video recording. Hopefully that's not the limitation of the 70D.

I also agree w @chrisfrancia regarding being able to use log files after recording Raw video (however, you can still dive into its metadata if recorded in MLV) but still would be a +1 for Raw.
w00t I thought I fixed that - at least it was working then. I need to recheck that:

https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/commits/aa943650a918e874a75d284a9e00d84d285d8bc2?at=70D-merge

 ::) :o 8)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on April 27, 2015, 10:08:56 PM
and also still wating for a fix to be able to use Arrow Key functions (there's no buttons configured to enabled it)

Yeah, using those arrow key functions would be great. those are the only reason us videographers are using ML on DSLRs, to overcome their shortcomings and turn them into proper video cameras.
Those other features of ML are cute and all, but come on, I want to be able to control the camera settings while recording.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: skanter on April 27, 2015, 10:44:02 PM
Just started using  version 111B, all going well so far.

First (probably obvious) question: how do you get ML menu to stay on without switching back to LV screen after a few seconds? I could not find a setting for this.

Thanks in advance...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Conaxe on April 27, 2015, 11:05:22 PM
Just started using  version 111B, all going well so far.

First (probably obvious) question: how do you get ML menu to stay on without switching back to LV screen after a few seconds? I could not find a setting for this.

Thanks in advance...
Pressing info on canon menu then switching to ML, worked for me.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: FonzeGator on April 28, 2015, 02:21:56 AM
Hey all,

I'm new to ML and just did a couple of test with RAW video. Am very amazed!
Was able to get about 7 seconds of recording at max res with 24fps, on my Sandisk Extreme Pro.

So just wondering, do you think that when a more stable ML version is released in the future, we would be able to shoot at full 1080p RAW for the 70D? Or will the recording time be increased for RAW video? Is this even possible?
Sorry guys, I'm new to RAW  :P :D

Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 28, 2015, 02:29:06 AM
   SetButtonStart Issue Solved ~ Turned out to be a Firm-Awareness quirk ~ If I Depress & Hold the SetButton with the Meat

of my thumb, which is how I normally Press It, ML would still be active. If I Depress & Hold the SetButton with my ThumbNail the

Cam' Starts up with ML Inactive. My apologies to all who Wasted Time on solving MyProb'.

                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chrisfrancia on April 28, 2015, 03:54:31 AM
I confirm that using the thumbnail works for me.

Through my testing I also discovered if you are booting the camera into photo mode and have your set button programmed to "iso" or "flash exposure compensation" then ML will not be disabled, if you have the button set to any of the other canon features then it will successfully disable ML

If set to "flash exposure compensation" and booting to video mode ML can be disabled.

If set to "ISO", ML cannot be disabled

This may explain misleading reports as well as the meaty finger issue
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on April 28, 2015, 04:10:15 AM
Ok so I tried to test the max res at 24 fps.

I put it in 1280p @ 60 fps ALL-I.  Loaded raw movie to res. 1920 @ 2.35 aspect, and dialed fps to 23.9. Zoomed to X5 (which I think is only X3 in reality from what Ive read).

Recorded movie, and it went biserk. The frame rate altered between 23.9 & 60 fps (canon default) and the picture was very unstable flashing purples/static/slow mo/pixelation etc.

The interesting part was I was able to shoot at a 1920x818, in agreement with the 2.35 aspect I had set!!!  So there is some hope, if we can get the fps & pic stable.

Upon retest it looks like the 5X zoom dies / freezes within a second, even before one hits record.  If you put it in 1280p @ 60 fps IPB, ML expects it to be shoot and select 1920 raw, ML reports it should shoot continuous which is a bug as well.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: RickK on April 28, 2015, 05:02:01 AM
One more piece of the SetButtonStart Issue puzzle. I set the SET button to OFF, but ML would still start when I pressed SET while starting the camera. I discovered that I had the camera set to Auto ISO and this would automatically return the SET button setting to ISO and so disable ML wouldn't work. When I set the camera to a specific ISO and then turned the SET button to OFF, I was now able to disable ML on starting the camera. This could explain the sporadic nature of this issue.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: austux on April 28, 2015, 05:18:24 AM
Is it possible for Magic Lantern to turn off (or raise, past maybe two hours) the 29min59sec firmware limit on video recording length in the 70D?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 28, 2015, 06:46:19 AM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14644
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 28, 2015, 08:16:39 AM
@Austux

        Glad you brought that up. I just tested on mine & it stopped @ 29:59

@Walter Schulz

        There is no mention of the 70D @ http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14644. So maybe a simple Not Yet might have been nice.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 28, 2015, 08:56:36 AM
You missed to mention if you used H.264 or RAW recording.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bredy on April 28, 2015, 04:44:38 PM
Rev. 111B

Is it nornal that in liveview when I press half shutter button or af-on button the canon date is upper the ML date screen?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bredy on April 28, 2015, 05:31:04 PM
Just started using  version 111B, all going well so far.

First (probably obvious) question: how do you get ML menu to stay on without switching back to LV screen after a few seconds? I could not find a setting for this.

Thanks in advance...

I have the same question. If I am on Video Mode or LiveView, the ML Menù escape after 5 second.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 28, 2015, 05:57:06 PM
@ Walter Schulz

H.264    & I have Movie Restart On ( It was 1 of the many items I turned on on my 1st trip through the ML Menu)  ~ 

 70D+ML111B
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 28, 2015, 06:21:32 PM
You may want to point out what is wrong in linked text/thread, so I might be able to add your corrections into my post.

EDIT: Saw your "Movie Restart ON" edit. You used 1080p25 PAL? Have you tried MLV with fps turned to a low value?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 28, 2015, 06:48:07 PM
Rev. 111B

Is it nornal that in liveview when I press half shutter button or af-on button the canon date is upper the ML date screen?

yes, same on 6D. We are only able to hide it while using wheel (keyword: UNAVI).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 28, 2015, 08:07:09 PM
@Walter Schulz

   Austux asked ~

"Is it possible for Magic Lantern to turn off (or raise, past maybe two hours) the 29min59sec firmware limit on video recording length in the 70D?"

   & it appeared that you responded with ~

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14644

   I was curious about the link so I went there & found no reference to the 70D. So was trying to point out that it didn't seem that you had

properly answered Austuxs question.

   I then decided to test MovieRestart on my 70D & found that it does not seem to be Working as the Vid' Stopped @ 29:59.

   So here is My version of the question ~ Is Movie Restart supposed to be Working on the 70D-111 A &/or B?

                                 ORR ~ DeanB

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bredy on April 28, 2015, 08:21:08 PM
@OlRivrRat
I have the 70D-111B and the movie not restart after 29:59.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bredy on April 28, 2015, 08:35:01 PM
what means (keyword:UNAVI)?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Smarty Pants on April 29, 2015, 02:22:39 AM
ok slightly off topic to this ML version but is related  (and not answered on the 1st post)

in the UK we use PAL aka 1080p/720p 25fps
in the US they use NTSC 30fps
(forget 29.97 and 24 etc i'm talking 70D here)

The 70D will not go lower than 1/30 in movie so it's obviously designed for NTSC with a pull down arrangement added for PAL

My question: would we in PAL regions not be better to shoot in NTSC 30fps with 1/30th sec shutter and then pulldown in AE/Premier etc?
I ask as we can get RAW 720p 25 or 30 within SD bandwidth
Even further would be, if shooting for the web why not just stay in a 30fps / 1/30th workflow all the way? (with i7s and SSDs the days of cutting every unneeded frame and Hz aren't worth it any more plus HD means PictureAlwaysLousy and NeverTheSameColour is really all it means now)

anyone done much testing?I ask as is there any point in keeping any PAL/25fps ML settings in a camera that won't shoot at 1/25 or 1/50 etc anyway?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chrisfrancia on April 29, 2015, 06:36:14 AM
@Smarty Pants,

To start to answer your questions I feel it necessary to correct a problem with your selecting of shutter speed. The rule of thumb for shutter speed is double the reciprocal. So for 30 fps the shutter speed would be 1/60. For 25fps the shutter speed would be 1/50 (or closest available option on camera). This is why the 70D shutter will not go under 1/30 in movie mode, not because of a NTSC design (although I can't say for sure the camera is or is not geared toward NTSC)

I also believe, youtube previously converted basically anything that was not 30fps to 30fps itself

As for your actual question,
I believe it is mostly personal preference, if you shoot all your stuff at 25fps you would be able to put your stuff on DVD's and stuff in PAL land and get a almost filmic look on youtube. I believe.

It's mostly a matter of preference as far as I know. After all films are/were typically 24fps but eventually ended up on TV's and other mediums so they ended up being turned into 30fps and look fine so it would be acceptable for you to do the same. However, if you find this 'style', 'jitter', or what not bothers you then technically your best bet is likely 30fps for youtube, even in PAL land, as far as I know.

You should edit and export at whatever framerate you shoot at for youtube. However, you should de-interlace if you happen to be using an interlaced camera (not in the 70D case).

This page will help you.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/1722171?hl=en

(Also if the camera is shooting at 29.97, 24.97, or 23.976, you should not round these frame rates off as you will slowly build an audio desync)

Also should discuss this else where as has hardly anything to do with magic lantern in any way
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bredy on April 29, 2015, 09:05:57 AM
rev. 111B

In Live View if I press the Zoom In button the image on display freeze, I try to turn off the camera but the image don't close. The only solution is to pull out the battery.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 29, 2015, 11:15:55 AM
*feedbacks*

70D111B Dual-ISO CR2's converted to DNG's is now finally readable in Adobe... Mad Props to @Danne for the command script!

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7662/17121751698_548f2675af.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/s5Zsgu)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7693/17122114400_43d5fcd7cb.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/s62j5Y)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7719/17283574236_6e0f2b14ed.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/skhQtf)

https://vimeo.com/126356593 (https://vimeo.com/126356593)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bredy on April 29, 2015, 04:25:00 PM
rev. 70d-111B

Cropmarks--- Ok in Live View, but in menù ML the cropmarks image are not good.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8787/17104378207_1c8b7220ac_s.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/s4spJx)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on April 29, 2015, 04:52:07 PM
70D.111A and 70D.111B can contribute following this guide:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12375.0

and post in that thread (not in this thread) the vram dumps for 70D.111A and 70D.111B as instructed per above link.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 29, 2015, 06:02:15 PM
                @Bredy

        LiveView Zooming is working Fine on my 111B ~ However, after returning to No Zoom the Level Indicator is Frozen.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 29, 2015, 06:28:35 PM
                @DeadEyeJedi

        "70D111B Dual-ISO CR2's converted to DNG's is now finally readable in Adobe... Mad Props to @Danne!!!"

        For those of us who may be in the dark as to what & who you are referring to here (which may only be me), would you Be So Kind as to

Enlighten Us/Me just a bit ~ Or provide a link to more info ~ Please & Thank You ~
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 29, 2015, 06:29:52 PM
Are you trying to convert Dual-ISO photos (cr2) from 70D, correct?

You on PC or Mac?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bredy on April 29, 2015, 06:34:51 PM
I use the standard setting of Canon 70D, magic zoom not active on ML. Every time I press this button I ave the same problem.

Here the crash log:
ASSERT: err == SUCCESS
at GUI.c:684, task PropMgr
lv:1 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015Apr23.70D111B
Mercurial changeset   : 1ace8a558a3a+ (70D-merge) tip
Built on 2015-04-23 19:29:50 UTC by [email protected]
Free Memory  : 170K + 1565K

ASSERT: err == SUCCESS
at GUI.c:684, task MainCtrl
lv:1 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015Apr23.70D111B
Mercurial changeset   : 1ace8a558a3a+ (70D-merge) tip
Built on 2015-04-23 19:29:50 UTC by [email protected]
Free Memory  : 170K + 1561K

ASSERT: err == SUCCESS
at GUI.c:684, task notifybox_task
lv:1 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015Apr23.70D111B
Mercurial changeset   : 1ace8a558a3a+ (70D-merge) tip
Built on 2015-04-23 19:29:50 UTC by [email protected]
Free Memory  : 170K + 1556K

If Magic Zoom is active no problem if i press the zoomin button.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: garrieta on April 29, 2015, 09:03:19 PM

I just want to know how to record a raw canon 70d firmware version B, ML is installed but not recorded in raw look like, thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on April 29, 2015, 09:05:06 PM
@DeafEyeJedi

"Are you trying to convert Dual-ISO photos (cr2) from 70D, correct?"        =    Yes

"You on PC or Mac?"        =    MacPro
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 30, 2015, 01:32:00 AM
@OlRivrRat:

You can try @Danne's latest cr2hdr-r (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13512.msg146326#msg146326cr2hdr-r) beta app which works well on Mac's.

Be sure to read through that thread thoroughly!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: masterhks on April 30, 2015, 04:03:24 AM
What is the maximum stable temperature?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on April 30, 2015, 05:20:41 AM
You might help:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9673.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: zp_henry on April 30, 2015, 10:17:05 PM
Hello.

I am new. I have problem with ML install in first step.
How to know if my EOS 70D is A or B version?
I don't know if i need to install Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111A  or Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111B?

I just know it is 70D(W).

Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on April 30, 2015, 10:25:52 PM
Hello.

I am new. I have problem with ML install in first step.
How to know if my EOS 70D is A or B version?
I don't know if i need to install Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111A  or Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111B?

I just know it is 70D(W).

Thank you very much!

Hi Henry, and welcome!
Please try to install 70D_111A...  If it is the correct one, it will install successfully, if it is not the correct one for your camera, it will tell you, and you can install 70D_111B at that point.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: mocenigo on May 01, 2015, 03:03:04 PM
Version B seems to work well on an old camera. At some point I got a crash, but I forgot what that was. I will try to reproduce. DUAL ISO seems to work well.

 Roberto
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DSLR Pro on May 01, 2015, 09:03:25 PM
Hey guys, I've been using ML for timelapses for a while on my 70D, like some other features like :focus peeking , histogram ETC. Can't get the dual ISO working. Have ML 111 Feb 2015 version.
Could someone walk me through on how to make it happened ? Thank you in advance for your attention.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 02, 2015, 12:18:34 AM
Maybe update to the latest ( April 2015) build and retest?
Title: Canon 70D DUAL ISO
Post by: ciriuss925 on May 02, 2015, 09:40:56 AM
Just wanted to share my DUAL ISO experimentation with my 70D -  thank you to the Magic Lantern developers who are working hard to port ML to 70D!  Very happy playing around with the DUAL ISO  :)

F/2.2  @ 0.5 seconds  (taken with 50mm 1.4 lens); DUAL ISO = 200/3200
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwB_poTzzVK8Y3JOQ2NmSExIMFE/view?usp=sharing

F/11  @  2 seconds (50mm 1.4 lens);  DUAL ISO = 200/1600 (toned down the ISO)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwB_poTzzVK8SHJER2hoSVdGNWc/view?usp=sharing

I'll try to google how to display my image directly on this page instead of just providing a link..

BTW my ML is not even the latest one - it is from the March Alpha4B build :)  I bet the newer builds must be even more awesome :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 02, 2015, 09:53:03 AM
nice one glad you are happy with it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 02, 2015, 10:15:24 AM
True. I second that and also still wating for a fix to be able to use Arrow Key functions (there's no buttons configured to enabled it) as well as being able to change exposures during RAW video recording. Hopefully that's not the limitation of the 70D.

I also agree w @chrisfrancia regarding being able to use log files after recording Raw video (however, you can still dive into its metadata if recorded in MLV) but still would be a +1 for Raw.
Quote
w00t I thought I fixed that - at least it was working then. I need to recheck that:

https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/commits/aa943650a918e874a75d284a9e00d84d285d8bc2?at=70D-merge

 ::) :o 8)

Ok confirmed as not to be working. Trying to fix it later. As far as I recall I also played around with gui button definitions. Looks like I missed those while committing above.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 02, 2015, 12:21:31 PM
Ok confirmed as not to be working. Trying to fix it later. As far as I recall I also played around with gui button definitions. Looks like I missed those while committing above.

Sweet! Thanks, a lot, nikfreak! Can't wait to have that working :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mr.Click on May 02, 2015, 03:45:20 PM
I have an issue with the Alpha 5 A build, in Playback mode the Touchscreen sometimes freezes while zooming in. I have to leave Playbackmode to get the Touchscreen working again. It doesn´t matter if Quickzoom is enabled or not. It sometimes just freezes.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 02, 2015, 04:39:12 PM
So after sensor cleaning, still find ISO 3200 has too many hot pixels to be useful.  At 1824x766 @ 2.35, 24 fps I was able to get 16s clip.
ISO 1600 is better, as I find fewer hot pixels 5 or less.  However this requires post processing to fix.  The good news is that once you fix a frame,
the hot pixels tend to repeat so you can reuse your wire correction fix in AE.  ISO 800 very usable, 0-1 hot pixels.  ISO 400 and lower I get clean results.

Its probably the sensor being heated, thats causing the hot pixels. Not sure if ML could help here (would need a kind of pixel remap, that kicks in after 10s exposure with ISO3200).

Would love to know if anyone is able to shoot raw ISO 3200, into shadows without hot pixels for length of clip.  Try 1824x766 @ 2.35 for max res. 
No problem with ISO3200 raw pics, just the video.  But I expect long exposures will yield same hot pixel results.

H264 shot flat will get you into the ISO 3200,  in shadowy areas without hot pixels.  If you shoot flat, you can get good shadow detail, also shooting with a higher bit rate helps with detail.


Next up is to try hi. res. dual ISO video, with 3200 & lower ISO to see if alternating ISO can prevent hot pixels. 
** April 25th B version: dual iso video is NOT working.  I get wierd colours like a colorization effect is on. **  The shutter keeps changing as well **
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 02, 2015, 07:09:50 PM
For those who are curious:

Here's the link to 70D movie files including Dual-ISO MLV/RAW from 70D111B (April 23)...

https://mega.co.nz/#F!6hchkCbD!zScVqL68khdbY6MylpzhNg

Here's the link to 70D Dual ISO CR2 files (As well as other varieties of files to choose from) from April 23 build as well...

https://mega.co.nz/#F!yoNQWBTa!3ohyAu9UggiyreAiFjo8nA
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DSLR Pro on May 02, 2015, 07:33:29 PM
Can someone explain how to make a right settings on the camera for dual ISO , step by step? It will take only a few minutes of your time. Thanks.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 02, 2015, 07:34:41 PM
@DSLR Pro:

For Photos or Video?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DSLR Pro on May 02, 2015, 07:40:33 PM
Both if you can.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 02, 2015, 08:07:09 PM
Not exactly a few minutes of my time but please read the forums (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=u25ca4qf3oih03h2s5lvkjtqb7&topic=7139.msg59687#msg59687forums).

https://vimeo.com/126685303

Also keep in mind that Dual ISO currently works only for Photo mode on 70D (as you notice in my clip above) while there's progress that still needs to be done for video mode (RAW/MLV) until then...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: spinflut on May 02, 2015, 08:07:42 PM
How do I know which version I need? I mean Alpha5 A or B?
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 02, 2015, 08:08:35 PM
@spinflut:

Try A first, if fails then it will tell you to use B instead.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DSLR Pro on May 02, 2015, 08:11:47 PM
DeafEyeJedi :

Thanks a bunch, mate!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: spinflut on May 02, 2015, 08:20:59 PM
Allright. Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chann on May 02, 2015, 10:14:17 PM
Magic zoom =ok
Green bar = not ok
Split screen = not ok
Cross = not ok
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DaveM on May 03, 2015, 06:13:26 AM
I've been trying out the dual_iso (Apr23 70D111B) and the windows Cr2hdr from the 1st page and I'm not sure its working correctly.

My understanding/experience with dual ISO on my EOS M is that a dual iso image should be look like a lower ISO image but with extra latitude to raise the exposure and/or lift the shadows without them being too noisy.  However my 70D converted DNGs are all coming out over exposed and look exactly like the higher ISO image.  I don't think they are being either recorded or converted correctly.  I think winfel reported a similar problem a few pages ago.

To demonstrate I took a series of shots with my eos M and 70d at 100,800, and dual 100/800.  I used the same lens and settings with only the ISO changing and this is with no changes to exposure or shadows... right to JPG and then combined.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38489413/70d.jpg (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38489413/70d.jpg)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38489413/m.jpg (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38489413/m.jpg)

Anyone else notice something similar?
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 03, 2015, 06:45:21 AM
@DaveM:

Which converter are you using for the Dual-ISO photos from 70D?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: BirdPics on May 03, 2015, 02:38:37 PM
Keep up the good work everyone. Can't wait to be able to use this! I'm holding out until it's safe to install.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 03, 2015, 02:40:44 PM
This will never happen. See disclaimer covering *all* ML versions, stable or not: http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/faq#is_it_safe
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DaveM on May 03, 2015, 02:44:50 PM
@DeafEyeJedi -> I'm using the the cr2hdr.exe compatible with 70D for Windows from the first page. 

Here is a zip with my M/70D test shots and converted DNGs if someone wants to take a look.  I wanted to post it before but it my upload speed is not great so it had to wait.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/51t5vbbuvw3dt3i/DUAL%20ISO%20TEST.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/51t5vbbuvw3dt3i/DUAL%20ISO%20TEST.zip?dl=0)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: msummers1 on May 03, 2015, 03:29:56 PM
I absolutely love having magic lantern on my 70D but until the overheating issue is resolved I can't risk it. I keep reading responses saying that its just the readout display being wrong due to yadayadayada. In the last four weeks I covered several concerts and before running the lantern on it I had no issue with overheating and the camera shutting down. but i did have trouble with focusing, hence the magic. Now with the lantern installed I only got half way through the concert when it over heated reading 70C. The camera was hot in my hand and I took the battery out and it was real hot. Putting another batt in seemed to cool it down a touch, enough to run a while longer before over heating again. There is absolutely an issue with the temperature when running magic lantern on the 70D. I have it on a t2i and it runs all day flawlessly no over heating or anything. Unfortunately I will have to remove the lantern for now. I hope that the devs can address this problem. 70d does not over heat when running without the magic of the lantern. Thanks for all the hard work guys.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 03, 2015, 03:50:04 PM
Overheating as in "camera shutdown on its own"?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 03, 2015, 04:42:10 PM
 I dont get why battery is heating up? SD card writer cranking faster perhaps?

Lets see shooting video in RAW should mean less processing.  Should not result in much more heat?
Having tried LCD screen on back or off back, I did not notice much temp. difference from LCD placement on my camera.
Even when shooting H264 video for longer shots, I find the camera heats up (but not to a shut-down temp).

msummers1, Curious to know are you shooting at 60fps or 50 fps?  What modules enabled etc. ? 
try:
- turn off most modules (as less processing means less cpu)
- compare write speeds (24fps vs 60 fps for instance).
- do all your batteries heat-up as fast (could be a dirty contacts or some heat inflicted short circuit in the battery)
- keep LCD off back.

** If ML were running some kind endless loop or writing to card more often then H264,
then yeah it could drain the battery causing some kind of overcolocking or excessive power drain
(but if its ML than most should have same shut-down with same conditions),
so your setup conditions/card write speed/length of shots are important to know. ** JM2C
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 03, 2015, 10:45:08 PM
I absolutely love having magic lantern on my 70D but until the overheating issue is resolved I can't risk it. I keep reading responses saying that its just the readout display being wrong due to yadayadayada. In the last four weeks I covered several concerts and before running the lantern on it I had no issue with overheating and the camera shutting down. but i did have trouble with focusing, hence the magic. Now with the lantern installed I only got half way through the concert when it over heated reading 70C. The camera was hot in my hand and I took the battery out and it was real hot. Putting another batt in seemed to cool it down a touch, enough to run a while longer before over heating again. There is absolutely an issue with the temperature when running magic lantern on the 70D. I have it on a t2i and it runs all day flawlessly no over heating or anything. Unfortunately I will have to remove the lantern for now. I hope that the devs can address this problem. 70d does not over heat when running without the magic of the lantern. Thanks for all the hard work guys.

msummers1, it's pretty clear to me that it's just a psychological issue you're confronting with. Seeing that 70C written there in red makes you think the camera is overheating, but in reality the camera gets just as hot with or without magic lantern. As long as you don't get the little thermometer icon from the Canon firmware flashing on your screen and then having the camera shut down, you shouldn't worry too much about it.
I shoot events, so I record about 8-9 hours a day. I at times have the camera recording for 3 hours at a time with only a 10 second brake in the middle while I change to a new pair of batteries. No overheating whatsoever. Running ML all this time.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: winfel on May 04, 2015, 10:09:54 AM
@DaveM: There seems to be a problem with the DNGs created with the specialized version for the 70d and Recent Versions of Lightroom and maybe Camera Raw. For me it worked perfectly (and still does) in Lightroom 5 but in Lightroom 6 the files seem to be just overexposed beyond potential to rescue them.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: SPalarius on May 04, 2015, 10:27:46 AM
Hello.
That is the question. It will do in different languages. I just with Russia, and I would like to be in Russian.
if you do not make it difficult to translate your firmware into different languages.
THANKS A LOT.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: pierre2fun on May 04, 2015, 08:31:16 PM
Here a crash report while trying to take a picture while filming.

https://mega.nz/#!1d1BlJCY
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 04, 2015, 08:35:31 PM
download link is encrypted. either share password or re-upload it without a password plz.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 04, 2015, 09:16:09 PM

Here a crash report while trying to take a picture while filming.

https://mega.nz/#!1d1BlJCY (https://mega.nz/#!1d1BlJCY)

You need to share it WITH the key, it should give you a looong link :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mr.Click on May 04, 2015, 09:46:28 PM
"I have an issue with the Alpha 5 A build, in Playback mode the Touchscreen sometimes freezes while zooming in. I have to leave Playbackmode to get the Touchscreen working again. It doesn´t matter if Quickzoom is enabled or not. It sometimes just freezes."

Edit: I found out that this Problem only appears, after I erased a Picture during Playback Mode, after erasing, the Touchscreen gets freezed.
I now went back to the earlier ML Version ( Alpha 4b) , with this Version,the Issue is gone. It only apears with the Alpha 5 A.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 04, 2015, 09:48:42 PM
@Mr. Click: great find. With that info I will surely narrow it down for the next release.  ;D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mr.Click on May 04, 2015, 09:49:45 PM
That would be great :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DaveM on May 04, 2015, 10:35:52 PM
@Winfel

I don't use lightroom, just PS with camera raw.  I tried it at work (older version of camera raw and on a mac) and the file opened fine.   The 70d shot looked just like the M shot with nice clean shadows and the same detailed highlights. 

I then updated camera raw on that computer and sure enough 70d shot's default exposure is now about 2.5 stops too high.  The eos m shot remains the same even though it was also created with the same cr2hdr as the 70d. 

Since the DNG seems to be ok I'm not as worried now about loosing the highlight detail.  I will just need to lower the exposure a couple stops before I start doing other edits and it should be fine.  Still I wonder what makes the 70D dual iso DNG files act differently in the latest camera raw and lightroom...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 04, 2015, 11:17:32 PM
.....
I then updated camera raw on that computer and sure enough 70d shot's default exposure is now about 2.5 stops too high.  The eos m shot remains the same even though it was also created with the same cr2hdr as the 70d. 

...Still I wonder what makes the 70D dual iso DNG files act differently in the latest camera raw and lightroom...

Anyone else having same experience or may verify above? I would just like to have it verified. In this case someone else with an older camera raw version would need to update to the latest version and share his/her experience with the end result. Actually I am a little bit confused with user experience. Some have no problems others do have 'em. Add to that different user scenarios like LR plugin or different cr2hdr versions (win/mac)- either downloaded from 1st post or provided by other tools. No offense to anyone.I just want to find the root cause of the reported dualiso issues because I have no clue atm what is causing them.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DaveM on May 05, 2015, 02:14:11 AM
Here is a file I'm having a problem with.  Maybe it will help if someone else can take a look at it can see if they can duplicate.

Here is the dual iso CR2.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s6ukqbs0moswhy7/IMG_3775.CR2?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/s6ukqbs0moswhy7/IMG_3775.CR2?dl=0)

Here is the converted DNG.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zb3qtu1yy963zg5/IMG_3775.DNG?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zb3qtu1yy963zg5/IMG_3775.DNG?dl=0)


I found that I have Camera Raw 7 on my laptop and 9 on my desktop, so here are the resulting jpg file with each...

Here is a jpg file converted with Camera Raw 9 with Exposure-2.  The sky is so blown out I can't get any detail in it even by lowering the exposure.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zl0hp51szgnpkgc/IMG_3775_cr9.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zl0hp51szgnpkgc/IMG_3775_cr9.jpg?dl=0)

Here is a jpg file converted with Camera Raw 7 with shadows +100  The sky is nice, and the shadows can be lifted to show ground detail.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k8lbrzvxxr67dfw/IMG_3775_cr7.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/k8lbrzvxxr67dfw/IMG_3775_cr7.jpg?dl=0)



Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: wdh3344521 on May 05, 2015, 05:07:27 AM
hello,dear group~
I have tryed the ML on my 70d and the dual iso model.
But when I need the cr2hdr.exe I can not open the link on the first page
Download cr2hdr.exe compatible with 70D for Windows
can you offer another link of cr2hdr for windows compatible with 70d?
THX
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 05, 2015, 05:16:29 AM
No problem here. Try other browsers.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: lolowattrelos on May 05, 2015, 06:56:41 AM
hello
Sorry, I do not speak English and I use an automatic translator.
Thank you very much for your work.

I have a small problem with the MLV:
MlRawViewer correctly reads the MLV but it exports DNG files do not open in photoshop CC.
I tried to convert the DNG with other software, but, like, it can not open them.

(No problem with Raw video)
I use the B version
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Danne on May 05, 2015, 04:43:56 PM
I completed a conversion tool for converting dualiso CR2 and dng movie files. It will also work with 70D dual iso files since it uses Nikfreaks cr2hdr20bit compiled from N/A. It works multithreaded.

thread here
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15108.msg146822;topicseen#msg146822
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Chele on May 05, 2015, 05:34:53 PM
Where can I donate?  I have looked though this thread and couldn't find it!  I would like to buy you guys at least a cup of coffee, not beer, I want you guys to stay awake for hours on end not pass out on the job:)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Danne on May 05, 2015, 05:50:35 PM
Of course I managed to include the wrong cr2hdr20bit binary ;). Sorry guys. Changed to the right compile and tested now. Works with dual iso files from 70D. Link again here.

dualiso_to_DNG
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15108.msg146822;topicseen#msg146822
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: snakec on May 06, 2015, 08:41:41 PM
Camera Raw 9 ( and lightroom 6 ) is not good for dual iso  :'(

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 06, 2015, 08:46:27 PM
Lightroom Dual ISO converter (cr2hdr) plug-in by kichetof:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11056.msg107262#msg107262
If you are using 70D files you have to replace cr2hdr executables with those linked here in this thread.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: snakec on May 06, 2015, 08:53:59 PM
already uses the beta 3
With the cr2 to 70d

Same tuning ...

Camera Raw 8.6
(http://snakec.free.fr/divers/060515-13H46.jpg)

Lightroom 6 or Camera raw 9
(http://snakec.free.fr/divers/IMG_8654-dualiso.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: jakepetre on May 06, 2015, 09:22:02 PM
Can someone(or anyone) share their recording durations when shooting raw video? I'm only able to get 2s with a 90mb/s card before it says 'skipped' and stops recording.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 06, 2015, 09:43:25 PM
@snakec: your results seem to confirm what DaveM already mentioned earlier.
What happens for normal raw (cr2) files (not dualiso) with adobe's dng converter? Can you replicate the results for non-dualiso files?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bensch on May 06, 2015, 10:16:47 PM
Hi,

I've been following this forum quite a long time now and I'm happy to have the alpha-version (70D111B (April 23)) finally installed on my 70D, too.
@nikfreak et al.: THANK YOU!

I have one small question: Should the focus stacking already be working? (because it doesn't)

Thanks, ben

Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 06, 2015, 11:11:17 PM
Can someone(or anyone) share their recording durations when shooting raw video? I'm only able to get 2s with a 90mb/s card before it says 'skipped' and stops recording.
Which resolution are you shooting in and what FPS?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DaveM on May 07, 2015, 01:49:44 AM
@nikfreak

I downloaded the latest Adobe DNG converter and converted a couple of my normal CR2 files.  They did not have the same issue.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 07, 2015, 02:50:48 AM
Ok for what its worth.  One can shoot 2K @ 2.35 & about 60 fps for about 2.5s.  I get about 151 frames.

I used canon menu IPB 1280x720 60fps.  Use ML_raw, 2.35 aspect, and 2048x872.  Hit digital zoom once, X5 on screen (which I think is 3X, facial recog AF does not support zoom)and you will need to MF.

1920x818 205 frames, 3.5s
2048x872 151 frames, 2.5s
2240x954 108 frames, 1.5s

Once ML fps override is working, rather than 60fps, for 2k one can dial back to 24 fps to get longer times (x2.5, for 10s to 4.5s).

Read my recent posts for times at less than 1080p resolutions.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: renderone on May 07, 2015, 07:47:19 AM
Hello, first of all, let me say how grateful I am to have access to more features in my 70d. Magic Lantern is simply fantastic. However, I have been confused about which download was right for me. From the reading, I thought maybe, because my serial number is of the earlier models, I should just go for the 111B files, but was I mistaken on this assumption?

Is this why Magic Lantern is glitchy on mine and causes the menu to close on me every few seconds? What determines which one will install and which one won't?

Upon further reading, I see that I should just start with 111A, then go to 111B if that doesn't work.

Should I uninstall 111B and try again with 111A, or does the installation of 111B mean that was the one for me any way? What is the determining factor for which one we need to download?

Sorry if this has been gone over and over, it's quite a long thread to find the answers easily through manual scanning.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 07, 2015, 07:53:20 AM
@renderone: Stick w B and play with it or read the forums some more. It is normal for the ML to go out after 4-5 secs on 70D. The M also has bug as well.

For those who are curious or in need of files (Dual-ISO RAW, MLV, CR2, MLV/RAW, FRSP
DNG/MLV) from certain models such as 70D, 5D3 & the M... Perhaps to help speed up the process on getting the binaries up to date.
Or just want to play with certain files for testing/practice purposes.

https://mega.co.nz/#F!DokxSIhC!q5iOd_rIQTRbCXA51Kyz5Q

Happy Updates!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: X-STATE on May 07, 2015, 10:25:49 AM
friends!
Please forgive me for this question :)
I use with ML SANDISK Extreme Pro SDXC 32GB UHS Class 1 95Mb / s
I want to buy SANDISK Extreme Pro SDXC 64GB UHS Class 1 95Mb / s
because now capture RAW was not enough space
The card 64 has no problems with the work of the ML on 70D?
tnx
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 07, 2015, 10:42:17 AM
friends!
Please forgive me for this question :)
I use with ML SANDISK Extreme Pro SDXC 32GB UHS Class 1 95Mb / s
I want to buy SANDISK Extreme Pro SDXC 64GB UHS Class 1 95Mb / s
because now capture RAW was not enough space
The card 64 has no problems with the work of the ML on 70D?
tnx

64GB card works just fine, but you will have to make it bootable with the EOScard.exe tool in order to install Magic Lantern on it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: X-STATE on May 07, 2015, 12:23:05 PM
64GB card works just fine,
TNX!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: zp_henry on May 07, 2015, 02:27:50 PM
Hello!

Magic Lantern works fine on my new Canon 70D.
But i can not find audio settings in ML?
I also miss the duration of recording?

Thank you very much :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on May 07, 2015, 02:38:50 PM
Hello!

Magic Lantern works fine on my new Canon 70D.
But i can not find audio settings in ML?


I don't think audio has been enabled yet.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: zp_henry on May 07, 2015, 04:20:15 PM
How long (or to what temperature) is safe for recording video?

In 10 minutes it is already red zone - 60 degrees Celsius.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: SPalarius on May 07, 2015, 04:53:30 PM
Hello.
who can help with the translation. for earlier thanks to
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: SPalarius on May 07, 2015, 04:56:26 PM
или может кто подскажет какой программой можно перевести МЛ
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 07, 2015, 05:42:22 PM
How long (or to what temperature) is safe for recording video?

In 10 minutes it is already red zone - 60 degrees Celsius.

That number is not the real temperature, and even if it was, it doesn't matter, as the camera has a warning come on in the form of a thermometer icon when the temperature is too high, and if you ignore it, it stops recording. So shoot away.
I've shot for several hours without stop and the warning never even came on.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: grey on May 07, 2015, 07:53:11 PM
или может кто подскажет какой программой можно перевести МЛ

Я тоже могу по Русски тут писать, but this is international forum. English language is acceptable for most of people from many countries. So use it if you want to got some help.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: grey on May 07, 2015, 07:59:20 PM
или может кто подскажет какой программой можно перевести МЛ

For what reason do you need to translate ML in Russian or any other language?
Зачем переводить МЛ на Русский или любой другой язык? Большинство терминов не имеют нормальных аналогов в Русском языке. Меню и так отлично структурировано и интуитивно понятно.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: danagiesbrecht on May 07, 2015, 09:05:53 PM
Hi All,

I need some help. I just downloaded Magic Lantern using this tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DtrFE39db4 for my Canon 70D DSLR and got all the way until the last step where it says: Making card bootable failed, please try again with debug on.... which it was on. So now I don't know what to do.

Any advice?

Thanks a bunch


Dana
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: danagiesbrecht on May 07, 2015, 09:07:39 PM
Or a better question might be... can anyone provide me with the most up to date download? I copied the link on the first page of this forum but maybe that's why I'm having issues?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 07, 2015, 09:15:06 PM
This tutorial is outdated. Format your card using a cardreader, insert card into cam and format again. Read first page and follow instructions there.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 07, 2015, 09:24:26 PM
Magic Lantern is glitchy on mine and causes the menu to close on me every few seconds?

                RenderOne

        This should only happen if you are viewing the ML Menu while in Movie or Live View modes ~ If you want to stay in the ML Menu

simply Go Into It while in ELV Stills Mode.

                                                                                                                                ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: danagiesbrecht on May 07, 2015, 09:40:23 PM
Thanks for the fast reply Walter. I'm formatting my card right now, but I'm still not 100% which download to use. Could you copy and paste the correct link for me? I would be forever grateful! :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 07, 2015, 09:45:07 PM
No, you have to read first page.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 07, 2015, 10:08:49 PM
                danagiesbrecht

        What Walter said - Kind Of - You really should read the 1st Post ~ But ~ As it does not adequately Spell Out the Download & Install Procedure

Just do this ~ If you are unsure if your 70D is a "Newer" or "Older" 1, Download both 70D_111A & 70D_111B ~ Attempt to install 111_A & if it does

not install try 111_B  ~~  111_A is for the "Newer" & 111_B for the "Older" ~

Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111A or Download Alpha5 release for 70D_111B

                                                                                                                                                  ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: pierre2fun on May 07, 2015, 10:12:21 PM
Just comming back.

Hum  :-[
A link you can read.

https://mega.nz/#!1d1BlJCY!TbNSzM7MmjDte-0hlAEFkq9cslGdq2qqCnOCtCTTQ_Y
https://mega.nz/#!NZF1hLqZ!Nzrp_tdf7pwfzxlItw3J9k7BMO-3LvlIudFAQtl05GA

Sorry Guys
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: SPalarius on May 08, 2015, 07:42:19 AM
Quote
Меню и так отлично структурировано и интуитивно понятно.
If you understand that I do not, there is an instruction but it is outdated and does not fit 70 d, and that would be desirable that the transfer was. why not do the translation camera in their language, and also the firmware in the language, because all users will be convenient and understandable. I do not think that all the lines speak good English language.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 08, 2015, 07:56:20 AM
[quoteМеню и так отлично структурировано и интуитивно понятно.]
If you understand that I do not, there is an instruction but it is outdated and does not fit 70 d, and that would be desirable that the transfer was. why not do the translation camera in their language, and also the firmware in the language, because all users will be convenient and understandable. I do not think that all the lines speak good English language.

Изучение английского языка, вы Путин любить гомосексуалист!
Или иди словарь из Украины.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: grey on May 08, 2015, 08:34:57 AM
Изучение английского языка, вы Путин любить гомосексуалист!
Или иди словарь из Украины.


We discuss about Canon EOS 70D or sexual orientation of Vladimir Putin?

And one more time... To all: in English, please.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 08, 2015, 08:52:42 AM
I was talking about SPalarius's orientation. Something may have gotten lost in translation. Anyway, back to the 70D..
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: SPalarius on May 08, 2015, 09:15:13 AM
xsghost
but where does Putin and Ukrainian Dictionary, and by the way I have with Orientation okay,
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 08, 2015, 10:25:07 AM
Not so pretty @ ISO 6400 shot in MLV on the 70D111B lol...

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7722/17233834319_32765f7330_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sfTUwt)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bensch on May 08, 2015, 11:54:07 AM
Focus stacking doesn't work properly - can anyone confirm?

If I start a series with lets say 5 photos in front and 5 photos behind, 5 steps, everything seems to work fine, the camera takes 11 shots and ends with the message "focus stacking done". But if you look at the photos there is one photo far in front and then 10 photos with exactly the same focus far behind.

During stacking, between two shots I can hear the focus motor always move two times as if it first moves back in some initial position and then moves the desired amount of steps.

Is this a known behavior or just my stupidity?-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 10, 2015, 06:44:08 AM
        So is it still just Austux, Bredy & Me that are unable to get "Movie Restart" to work on our Older 70Ds with ML111B ~

                                                                                                                                            ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 10, 2015, 11:00:59 AM
@olRivrRat: we will take a look at that soon together. It's actually just not on my highest prio.

@all: i am on this: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg146595#msg146595

Good news is that I got it working and tweaking it but it's a little bit complicated to find a suitable button but it seems that I will also be able to further improve the annoying Canon overlay which appears when pressing metering button. Will require some detailed testing to see how it goes but I will keep you updated.. It just feels like I almost got it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 10, 2015, 01:38:16 PM
Ok I guess Arrow keys work now. Please try it out and confirm the arrow keys as working (use metering mode button or AF AREA selection button). I attached download links:

70D.111A (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRNlV5TUY2RFJxMVk/view?usp=sharing)

70D.111B (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Mu66yg5QzRZGltNl9SOTJKZ0U/view?usp=sharing)

Might be a good time to check if all is working fine. See the changelog for more details: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/620/add-support-for-eos-70d-111-both-revisions/commits
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: a1ex on May 10, 2015, 01:45:29 PM
A fresh menu walkthrough would be great as well. Testing only testing the default configuration of each option is not enough(e.g. not just Magic Zoom with default settings); a much better way (though still incomplete) is to also try each option from the submenu.

Because the number of menu options is huge, I'm not asking one user to perform all the tests. Just pick a few features you are interested in, and test them thoroughly.

Before including the 70D in the nightly builds, I'll disable all the features for which no feedback was received.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April) -117b (10th May2015)
Post by: chann on May 10, 2015, 07:17:36 PM
Sorry sent msg to nikfreak instead of using reply here.

First try after downloading 117b, arrow keys (used in magic zoom to re position focus point) works. Subsequently have to press zoom button (x1) for it to work.

Pressing Af or metering buttons brings out canon menu but arrow keys do not wk

All 3 focus confirmation modes do not wk
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 10, 2015, 07:56:00 PM
@olRivrRat: we will take a look at that soon together. It's actually just not on my highest prio.

                @NikFreak

       Thanks for the ComeBack on that ~ Just the acknowledgement that it is anywhere on the list is quite sufficient.

When I come across things that don't appear to be working for me, I usually feel that it may be due to something that I am doing incorrectly, especially if I post

about it & there is no reply from You Knowledgable Ones.

       The Arrow Keys appear to be functioning correctly on my 111B (once I figured out what I was looking for & how to activate the functionality) ~ I had never

used that Feature before ~ Thanks for that.

       Also noticed that you have "DealtWith" the "Temperature" issue ~ You sneaky devil ~

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 10, 2015, 08:19:11 PM
Sorry sent msg to nikfreak instead of using reply here.

First try after downloading 117b, arrow keys (used in magic zoom to re position focus point) works. Subsequently have to press zoom button (x1) for it to work.

Pressing Af or metering buttons brings out canon menu but arrow keys do not wk

All 3 focus confirmation modes do not wk

Ok Focus confirmation also never worked for me in MZ (magic zoom) that's known to not work on my side too. But better than disabling MZ completely!?. I will have a look again why the confirmation doesn't seem to work but can't promise to get it working. Did you try arrow keys w/o MZ? I got confused about that zoom button comment from you.


       Also noticed that you have "DealtWith" the "Temperature" issue ~ You sneaky devil ~


hey I was given a special hint regarding temperature discussions. take a look here:
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/620/add-support-for-eos-70d-111-both-revisions/activity#LC6724809T298

Chann seems to use 70D.111B and olRivrRat too. Can you confirm the buttons "Af Area selction" and "Metering mode" for 70D.111B for activating arrow key mode:
(http://media.wiley.com/Lux/34/403034.image1.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: a1ex on May 10, 2015, 08:29:38 PM
Focus confirmation in MZ is also used with trap focus in LiveView, and with "best shots" option from silent pictures. It's reported by Canon code in PROP_LV_FOCUS_DATA, so you could check if this property gets triggered in LiveView (should be once per every frame) and if the focus magnitude increases when you focus on something.

If you can't figure it out, disable CONFIG_LV_FOCUS_INFO from internals.h.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bredy on May 10, 2015, 08:50:06 PM
But in the last 70.111B dowloand I don't see the file of firmware. I have to use the old one? Thanks
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)-117b
Post by: chann on May 10, 2015, 08:54:02 PM
Nikfreak, my apologies i used the af button next to the drive, iso & metering mode buttons but not the one next to the shutter - the af area selection button (as per your photo of the eos 70d top panel as shown in your #990 reply) - this works!

Pressing the metering mode button - arrow keys do not work

And thanks nik for confirming that the focus confirmation in magic zoom does not wk.

In my case, the battery drains extremely fast.

Will test arrow keys without magic zoom soon. Thank you for your prompt reply to my previous report wrt the arrow key function. Take care
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 10, 2015, 11:12:01 PM
Can you confirm the buttons "Af Area selction" and "Metering mode" for  activating arrow key mode

       @Nikfreak

       Yes, both "Af Area selction" and "Metering mode" will activate Arrow Key Mode ~ But ~ Only if you are in "Vid'Mode" ~ If you try to activate Arrow Key Mode

while in LiveView with either "Af Area" or  "Metering mode" it Does Not work ~ But if you activate Arrow Key Mode While in Vid'Mode & then switch to LiveView

the Arrow Key Mode Remains Active ~

      Also ~ Just tested & found that if I Activate the Arrow Key Mode while in Vid'Mode & then turn the Cam' Off, Switch to Stills mode & Restart the Cam', go into

LiveView or Vid'Mode, the Arrow Key Mode will still be Active ~~ The Thlot Plickens ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: danagiesbrecht on May 10, 2015, 11:14:35 PM
Hi All,

I'm still having a lot of issues downloading Magic Lantern onto my camera.

Here's where I'm currently stuck:

I downloaded the 70.111A version, unzipped the zipped file, and then copied all 4 files onto my SanDisk memory Card (64 GB).
Next I put the card in my camera, undated the camera firmware, restarted the card. The 'You've successfully downloaded Magic Lantern screen comes up' but then when I press the trash can it doesn't work. What am I missing?

Thanks a bunch!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chrisfrancia on May 10, 2015, 11:46:03 PM
the arrow/set buttons work great now, also if you select multiple options you can cycle through the modes however if you select all the options it kind of gets visually buggy, but selecting 2 options works great. thanks for the update :) (on version B)

doesnt work in photo live view for me at all

works with af button only as far as i can tell
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: miguelencho on May 11, 2015, 04:49:38 AM
Ya pude instalar ML en mi canon 70D wifi happy happy, ahora como puedo grabar mas tiempo en magic lanter? solo puedo grabar 9 segundos!!!
my test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOjw853499I

saludos.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 11, 2015, 05:36:12 AM
70 B version
In manual video mode both ISO & Kelvin worked of AF area & arrows.  Nice!
Did not see Focus by steps screen (++ + -- -), which is needed for the canon 50mm II, as it has just about no m-focus ring. 

Not sure what temp problem you devil was fixed?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bredy on May 11, 2015, 09:18:15 AM
Nikfreak

I have a problem with 111.B

With standard setting on my 70D I install the ML 70D.111B No change on setting.

I go in LiveView. Then press ZoomIn Button. The camera freeze. I try to press LiveView but doesn't work, I turn off the camera, the image turn off but the ML screen don't turn off. Only solution is to remove the battery.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 11, 2015, 09:23:03 AM
*feedbacks*

https://vimeo.com/127456563 (https://vimeo.com/127456563)

Thanks to @nikfreak for the updates.

MZ seems to be much more solid and the mini screen doesn't flicker anymore. Good job!

FP seems to have a little improvements although not a big fan of this feature (MZ seems easier to get in focus) again it depends on the situation (because I sometimes like it) hehe.

AK seems to work well other than its weird Canon overlay contents that comes up as I scroll through in between categories within AK.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 11, 2015, 12:03:32 PM
*feedbacks*

https://vimeo.com/127456563 (https://vimeo.com/127456563)

Thanks to @nikfreak for the updates.

MZ seems to be much more solid and the mini screen doesn't flicker anymore. Good job!

FP seems to have a little improvements although not a big fan of this feature (MZ seems easier to get in focus) again it depends on the situation (because I sometimes like it) hehe.

AK seems to work well other than its weird Canon overlay contents that comes up as I scroll through in between categories within AK.

wtf is AK? Andrew Kramer?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 11, 2015, 12:43:42 PM
arrow keys....  :P
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: fer311278 on May 11, 2015, 01:12:39 PM
hello, I have a problem to reveal a picture taken with the Dual Iso, when I correct the highlights there is a dominant magenta impossible to correct. I use Camera raw and I installed the cr2hdr.

regrads!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 11, 2015, 01:26:43 PM
arrow keys....  :P
oh..
yeah, that makes more sense :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 11, 2015, 06:24:50 PM

hello, I have a problem to reveal a picture taken with the Dual Iso, when I correct the highlights there is a dominant magenta impossible to correct. I use Camera raw and I installed the cr2hdr.

regrads!
Which cr2hdr version did you use?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 11, 2015, 06:55:28 PM
      @NikFreak & @Alex

   It sure seems to me that having the ability to Manually be in control of ISO in All Shoot Modes ( P, AV, TV) during Video

shooting would be a Benefit ~ Is there any way that you Wizards can implement this functionality ~ I find it quite strange that

Canon chose to give us the controls on the 70D to be able to switch between M, AV, TV, & P while in Video Mode but then made

AV, TV & P, Auto ISO Only ~

                    Don't mean to distract from Tasks @ Hand, but if doable @ some point in the future I think it would be a Useful addition ~

                                                                                                                                                 ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)-117b
Post by: chann on May 11, 2015, 08:15:14 PM
I refer to reply #990. Nikfreak, the zoom button I referred to is the blue button with the magnifying glass with + sign icon.

My tests were conducted in photo mode not video.

So in photo mode & in magic zoom the arrow keys worked using the af area selection button (nearest the shutter button) as well as using zoom (x1) ie the blue button however the focus box is much larger.

Hope that helps .TQ
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: fer311278 on May 11, 2015, 08:31:08 PM
DeafEyeJedi, i downloaded the version which is in the first page.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: SPalarius on May 12, 2015, 06:11:31 AM
Hello everyone.
who can help with translation, if there are such.
need to be translated into Russian.or tell me which program can be translated.
for earlier thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: span on May 12, 2015, 07:58:01 PM
Hello!! I m new member here :)

I have a canon eos 70d with FW 1.1.1. Could you please tell me which is the correct FW who needs my camera ( 1.1.1A or 1.1.1B) ?

Thank you in advance
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 12, 2015, 08:00:41 PM
If you had read through 40 pages (which isn't a lot comparing to others) in this particular thread... You would have gotten your 70D up and running w ML installed without having to ask this question...

Please read otherwise try A (if fails then it will tell you to use B) and it's that simple...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Yuppa on May 12, 2015, 09:22:08 PM
Can you just image the 1st person who installed ML who came here only to find a blank forum?

What to do...what to do...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on May 12, 2015, 09:24:28 PM
Just tried RAW Recording with an external monitor attached, and the camera crashes, requiring the battery being pulled in order to reset. It never starts recording, only starts with the red time code and then freezes. The screen stays on even if the camera is turned off. This is through the USB output.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 12, 2015, 10:07:46 PM
                @Guitarshredder1

        It might be a good idea to provide info/specs on the monitor you used & which version of 70D_111 you have ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 12, 2015, 10:16:04 PM
                  @Span

         If you don't want to read All 41Pages, @ Least go to Reply #975 (1st 1 on Pg40 in my browser) & Read It ~

                                                                                                                             ORR ~ DeanB
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on May 13, 2015, 01:18:01 AM
I am using an Android tablet with DSLR Controller on it, and Alpha5b version A. It works fine in All-I mode, but freezes in RAW. It also freezes when recording MLV.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 13, 2015, 05:23:55 PM
                @Guitarshredder1

        I tried it with my Nexus7+DSLRController (which is my Norm' Vid' SetUp) & got the Same Freeze symptoms as you ~

I'm guessing that it may just be asking the Camera to do to much work ~ 70D_111B ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: jman2015 on May 13, 2015, 05:54:54 PM
Has anyone connected  the 70d to an atomos to see if the ML cleans the HDMI output? I searched through the post and Didn't see anything i understood in regard. I'm debating buying one and have NOT installed ML yet and it would be a deciding factor.

thanks in advance.

Great forum btw
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on May 13, 2015, 06:22:45 PM
Has anyone connected  the 70d to an atomos to see if the ML cleans the HDMI output? I searched through the post and Didn't see anything i understood in regard. I'm debating buying one and have NOT installed ML yet and it would be a deciding factor.

thanks in advance.

Great forum btw

You can only record using the formats that it allows you too on the atomos.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DavNik on May 13, 2015, 06:39:59 PM
        So is it still just Austux, Bredy & Me that are unable to get "Movie Restart" to work on our Older 70Ds with ML111B ~

                                                                                                                                            ORR ~ DeanB

Same problem on mine
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 13, 2015, 06:42:39 PM
Are you guys having this issue with h264 and not RAW/MLV, right?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 13, 2015, 07:28:29 PM
DSLR Controller app does not work with ML RAW. It never has on any ML release.
Some claimed 5D MIII, but even that was limited.  I suspect it needs to be optimized
to work with ML, and the DSLR Controller app folks have never claimed it does. 

DSLR controller is for H264 video.  However 70D with a loupe on the LCD is even faster,
and the LCD screen is very sufficient for focus peaks & checks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: jman2015 on May 13, 2015, 08:24:19 PM
confused so the HDMI out is steady now? To the best of my understanding one couldn't get a steady HDMI out before...

ote from: jman2015 on Today at 05:54:54 PM
Has anyone connected  the 70d to an atomos to see if the ML cleans the HDMI output? I searched through the post and Didn't see anything i understood in regard. I'm debating buying one and have NOT installed ML yet and it would be a deciding factor.

thanks in advance.

Great forum btw

You can only record using the formats that it allows you too on the atomos.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 13, 2015, 10:59:31 PM
            @DeafEyeJedi

"Are you guys having this issue with h264 and not RAW/MLV, right?"

        Both you & WalterS have asked that question ~

               Answer ~ H264 ~

Here is my 1st post on the topic ~

                @Austux

        Glad you brought that up. I just tested on mine & it stopped @ 29:59 ~

    So I'm curious if you guys know of anyone able to get to 29:59 in RAW/MLV ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: danagiesbrecht on May 14, 2015, 01:21:47 AM
Hi All,

So I have magic lantern finally installed properly and working but I don't see any settings for monitoring audio. Can someone help me out please?

Thanks,

Dana
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: grey on May 14, 2015, 01:38:47 AM
Hi All,

So I have magic lantern finally installed properly and working but I don't see any settings for monitoring audio. Can someone help me out please?

Thanks,

Dana

There is no AudioMonitoring in currebt release.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 14, 2015, 10:18:13 AM
*Feedbacks*

Decided to test out the HDR feature...

70D shot in:
- RAW 60fps HDR mode iso 100/1600 (I know I could have done it in 48fps but wanted to push it for this test with 70D) and plus FPS override isn't quite working yet, obviously.

I also snapped a CR2 photo (thinking I had proper white balance on it) to use it as a "grey card" for HDR files but had it in the wrong WB settings. My fault will do another proper test.

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7783/17630026691_db82f0f195_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sRUuHr)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5338/17443636839_ddd4afea0e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/szrcvi)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5447/17442112298_a7838c46e9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/szioj7)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5464/17603625546_5d793ed26e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sPzbzh)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8756/17009606263_b4d13bcc49_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rV5Fkv)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5457/17603626966_243d89bcb1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sPzbZL)

https://vimeo.com/127802306

Lots of aliasing w these HDR 70D files, eh?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: X-STATE on May 14, 2015, 09:39:44 PM
is this RAW dual iso video or hdr video?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Danne on May 14, 2015, 10:00:34 PM
I think he shot this in RAW HDR iso 100/1600 60fps. Frames are then halfed and automatically upscaled to 30fps when merged in cr2hdr-r.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 15, 2015, 01:10:53 AM
Correct @Danne!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: LightMan on May 15, 2015, 08:20:55 AM
Hello

I don't know if someone else notice that but I notice that ML corrupt the SD card and I finally have to format it. I can't read the card on my computer (card not initialized) or on my 70D (card unreadable).
When I succeed to format it and restore videos from it, videos are corrupted. I see that ML was deleted when reformating the card.
I record hours of video without any problem with ML but sometimes, without any reason, the card is unreadable and I have to format her.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 15, 2015, 09:30:28 AM
ML doesn't reprogram SD-card interface but uses what Canon built in (hardware and software). Your case may be just coincidence or you treated card wrong. You have to wait a while after shutting down the cam before opening SD-card compartment. Otherwise you may disrupt ML shutdown.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: LightMan on May 15, 2015, 01:45:48 PM
ML doesn't reprogram SD-card interface but uses what Canon built in
I know it ! :)
Maybe I don't wait enough after shutting down... However I waited 5 sec before opening SD-CARD door.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Yuppa on May 15, 2015, 05:47:44 PM
Quote from: LightMan: Today at 08:20:55 AM
When I succeed to format it and restore videos from it, videos are corrupted. I see that ML was deleted when reformating the card.

What do you mean by, "format?" On your computer? Of course all the files will be gone.

After EACH file transfer (session) from my camera (a 60D) to my computer, I put the SD card back in my camera and perform a "low level" format (ML restores itself unless I press the "Q" button to switch the option to remove).

But this is just me.

Cards do NOT last forever.  It might be time for new/better card.  In-camera SD card formatting should be part of your regular maintenance routine.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 15, 2015, 06:10:36 PM
There are exceptions to the rule. Formatting in camera with cards up to 32 GByte will give you FAT32 file system. If you want to preserve ExFAT on those cards do *not* format in cam or you have to reformat them using cardreader. And use EOScard/Macboot to make card bootable again (or install ML again). And restore ML settings.
Could be routine, too but one I'd rather try to avoid.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: jman2015 on May 16, 2015, 04:19:15 AM
has anyone tried slow motion 60fps with ML, if you can only get a minute i assume you can only slow mo for 30 seconds?

debating if i want to install this might be the one to push me over the edge...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chmteacher on May 16, 2015, 06:54:44 AM
I'm doing some experimenting, how do I actually uninstall ML from my 70D? Will I brick it if I just format the card?
Thx in advance,
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 16, 2015, 08:17:17 AM
has anyone tried slow motion 60fps with ML, if you can only get a minute i assume you can only slow mo for 30 seconds?

debating if i want to install this might be the one to push me over the edge...

How does one do slow motion 60fps with ML? Are you talking about fps override?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chann on May 16, 2015, 08:24:37 PM
chmteacher, reply # 1037
ML resides in the sd card. Deleting ML or formatting card will uninstall - should not brick eos
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 16, 2015, 08:39:51 PM
Formatting the card will *not* uninstall ML from the cam. It will render card non-bootable and ML files gone but cam's bootflag will still be set. But you will not see ML starting up using this card, that's true.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on May 16, 2015, 10:48:50 PM
I formatted my card and tried to run the may version A but wouldn't let me update firmware or run ML. The previous version A worked fine for me. 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 16, 2015, 11:05:17 PM
1) Format card using cardreader.
2) Format card using cam
3) Copy extracted nightly contents to card
4) Run firmware update
Report back
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chmteacher on May 16, 2015, 11:09:09 PM
Walter, your message would have been more helpful if it included actually how to reset the bootflag, i.e. truly "uninstall" ML....

Posted by: Walter Schulz
« on: Today at 08:39:51 PM » Insert Quote
Formatting the card will *not* uninstall ML from the cam. It will render card non-bootable and ML files gone but cam's bootflag will still be set. But you will not see ML starting up using this card, that's true.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on May 16, 2015, 11:12:49 PM
1) Format card using cardreader.
2) Format card using cam
3) Copy extracted nightly contents to card
4) Run firmware update
Report back
That's what I did the first time but did it again anyway and I am still getting the message 'Memory card containing firmware is required to update'.

I might try version B but seeing as A worked before I don't imagine that it would work either.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 16, 2015, 11:19:00 PM
Walter, your message would have been more helpful if it included actually how to reset the bootflag, i.e. truly "uninstall" ML....

Read first post in this thread.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 16, 2015, 11:22:04 PM
3) Copy extracted nightly contents to card
3) Copy extracted alpha-a contents to card
That's what I did the first time but did it again anyway and I am still getting the message 'Memory card containing firmware is required to update'.

FIR file present in card's root directory?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on May 16, 2015, 11:25:21 PM
Ok that was it, thanks. :-[

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 17, 2015, 01:50:27 AM
In movie tweaks, their is an enable option to keep recording by starting another clip after 29.59min. 
When I shoot raw and it skips a frame, the next clip does not start when enabled.  It would be verrry useful to start the next movie after a skipped frame. This would effectively increase the raw video time (ok I realize might be 0.5 sec. lost between stop/restart)
but for 1824x776 @ 2.35 aspect which runs about 15s on a 70D, this would make a huge difference ... almost increasing the raw video time for free.

I also wonder if you entered a value like start/stop after X frames, if the stop present/start next clip time could be reduced to like 0.1sec.
Not sure about what happens after you hit stop.  How fast can one cue up the next video if its preprogrammed???
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chmteacher on May 17, 2015, 02:13:01 AM
Walter, I have read the stupid first post about 10,000 times. It does not state how to uninstall. Unfortunately this forum has a terrible way of actually searching within this particular thread. Instead of being a d&ck why not actually post how to uninstall it if you know how?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: TechnoPilot on May 17, 2015, 05:38:12 AM
Walter, I have read the stupid first post about 10,000 times. It does not state how to uninstall. Unfortunately this forum has a terrible way of actually searching within this particular thread. Instead of being a d&ck why not actually post how to uninstall it if you know how?
@chmteacher - If you take the time to read the thread, even only the last dozen pages, you would very clearly have seen how to uninstall the lastest 70D alpha of ML, remember this is not an official release, this is an Alpha and if you are unwilling to make the effort to take the time to read even the latest of the development thread then you should not be testing the Alpha software on your camera.  Perhaps this forum's search function is not the greatest at time, but being arrogant and demanding to those who are taking the time to respond to try to answer your question when it is their own initiative is not very nice.  We are all just trying to further the community here.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chmteacher on May 17, 2015, 06:35:59 AM
I'm still not sure how NOT answering people's questions furthers the community. Sorry I don't have time to read through 42 pages of posts to find what I'm looking for. At this point it probably would have been more efficient... Can anyone else use their language skills to describe how to uninstall ML instead of saying "read the first post"?
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 17, 2015, 07:12:59 AM
42 pages is nothing comparing to the other threads on this remarkable forum... Please keep the tone down a bit and show respect for others...

If you really want to uninstall ML then why don't you watch this video... If you have the time, right?

https://vimeo.com/128044782 (https://vimeo.com/128044782)

However, in doing so won't disable the bootflag... If that's what you want to do then go to Canon menu and run firmware update again... Once you see "ML already installed, etc" then simply wait 1 minute in order for it to completely disable the bootflag.

If you don't mind me asking... Why do you want to completely uninstall this from your camera? Any valid points? Complaints?

Or just simply too overwhelming for you to handle?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chmteacher on May 17, 2015, 07:35:52 AM
@DeafEyeJedi
Thanks for posting something worth reading. I'm just interested in comparing some performance/video nuances to stock. One thing I have noticed now is that my camera won't go to into sleep mode anymore and the card light flashes every minute or so (keeping it awake?). Not sure if I just missed a setting somewhere or what. Regardless it is a little weird that people freak out if you actually want to try uninstalling this thing. Heaven forbid...
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 17, 2015, 07:39:18 AM
I'm sorry but anything coming directly from Walter is definitely worth reading. He's a nice guy actually and a pure genius -- you just need to learn how to understand this community by reading more often. That's pretty much how I got myself this far.

Also I enjoy troubleshooting as well as many others here -- so hopefully you are on the same boat.

Anyway Do you think you Missed a setting somewhere within ML menu or Canon menu (just trying to understand your issue).

Have you tried uninstalling ML yet by running firmware update again and follow the instructions on LCD screen?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: hturkcan on May 17, 2015, 01:32:01 PM
Hello 70d owners. I just try to install ml for my 70d. I think I 've installed correctly. But I have a problem. There is no raw settings in Movie Header. So, did I miss something?
Here is ss
(http://i.hizliresim.com/yMNJJ7.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on May 17, 2015, 01:37:42 PM
Did enable all the modules in module tab and restart your camera?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Berrob on May 17, 2015, 04:15:26 PM
is it possible to route the write output to the usb interface for higher bandwidth than what the SD card slot has?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mallowsm on May 17, 2015, 04:31:49 PM
Hi im thinking of buying an atoms no decided which one. Will go hunting around on eBay. Does the ML allow for clean HDMI or will it just be the same as whats in camera pretty much?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Chucho on May 17, 2015, 08:12:29 PM
Mallowsm you have to enable it yourself "70d B" 0xFF19B6C8 PROP_DUAL_OUTPUT
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mallowsm on May 18, 2015, 01:14:58 PM
Mallowsm you have to enable it yourself "70d B" 0xFF19B6C8 PROP_DUAL_OUTPUT

Is that within the ML Menus? Im still on the march 15th release aswell so ill update it when onget a chance
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: maitimaus on May 18, 2015, 03:52:23 PM
First of all big thanks to nikfreak! I think ML runs for such early build very stable :)
my camera (B Version) only crashed sometimes because I pressed the zoom button during a raw shot, but now I know not to do that ;)

With my SanDisk 16GB 80MB/Sec card I can record RAW with the following specs (all 2.39:1 aspect ratio):
[email protected],976 => 15s
[email protected],976 => 300s (5 minute)
[email protected],976 => seems to be continuous

with 5X Zoom:
3456x1320 => 34 frames
2880x1206 => 50 frame
1920x804 => 170 frames

But I noticed, that the camera temperature is displayed wrong:
ML told me after some raw shooting 58C but later in ExifTool I checked the meta data and it was 49C!
another test: ML 46C and ExifTool 42C!
Is it possible to change there something?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: TechnoPilot on May 18, 2015, 06:42:03 PM
First of all big thanks to nikfreak! I think ML runs for such early build very stable :)
my camera (B Version) only crashed sometimes because I pressed the zoom button during a raw shot, but now I know not to do that ;)

With my SanDisk 16GB 80MB/Sec card I can record RAW with the following specs (all 2.39:1 aspect ratio):
[email protected],976 => 15s
[email protected],976 => 300s (5 minute)
[email protected],976 => seems to be continuous

with 5X Zoom:
3456x1320 => 34 frames
2880x1206 => 50 frame
1920x804 => 170 frames

But I noticed, that the camera temperature is displayed wrong:
ML told me after some raw shooting 58C but later in ExifTool I checked the meta data and it was 49C!
another test: ML 46C and ExifTool 42C!
Is it possible to change there something?
@maitimaus - What version of the nightly are you on?  The latest which was a less official release I think (seemed a little more like a directly reply to some issues) is the May10th release, this release directly solved the known readout temperature error. 

Though admittedly from my experience now running the May10th build for a week, I just never have the temperature displayed on screen and can't figure out how to turn it on from any of the menus.

@Nikfreak, perhaps you could comment on the now lack of temperature display?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 18, 2015, 07:21:57 PM
@technoPilot: temperature display was incorrect and therefore removed to avoid unnecessary confusions / discussions.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: TechnoPilot on May 18, 2015, 08:49:32 PM
@technoPilot: temperature display was incorrect and therefore removed to avoid unnecessary confusions / discussions.
@nikfreak - This makes a lot of sense, I am curious though, you mentioned on the same post as the release that someone let you in on the formula to convert the readings to real temperatures.  Are you still working on implementing this, or was it still not correct?  Let me know if you need any further help with correcting this.

Also, just to directly say, amazing work on ML for the 70D, I am loving using it on my "b build" camera.  The latest build has really added to the stability overall of the Alpha.  The only two items that I have directly noticed, is that the overlay bitmap is very slow to reload anytime the ML screen is redrawn, I'm not sure if this is normal behaviour, but it sometimes takes up to 10 seconds.  The second is more something I am just feeling like I am missing while shooting, and I'm assuming it is because you have not gotten to debugging that module yet, that is the lack of ability to draw audio meters on the screen.

Thanks again for the amazing work so far!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mallowsm on May 18, 2015, 09:51:30 PM
Is that within the ML Menus? Im still on the march 15th release aswell so ill update it when onget a chance

Im very confused do i need to do this myself inside terminal or anything? If anyone hasn't got the time to explain it, just point me in the right direction, I purchased a atomos ninja on eBay tonight fairly cheap so id love to unlock the full potential of the HDMI output of the camera. Using ML has changed the way i use the camera 100%
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: oaydin on May 19, 2015, 04:53:58 PM
Hello, I'd just like to point out that I've read the first post on this thread. I have a 70D with a copy of the latest alpha release (as of the 19th May). I've used ML... A LOT, especially on my old 550D. ML is an integral part of my gear now and you guys are doing an awesome job  :)

I just have a point/question to arise:

Question: I don't want to assume anything in case i mess my camera up, so i was wondering, can I have this install of ML on multiple SD cards? Can i just copy the ML files on to other SD cards? Or do i go through the install process for each SD Card?

Point: In manual (photo and video) mode, one of my favourite features is the Magic Zoom. Although the magic zoom is basically functional, i cannot seem to move the pointer around the screen for different points of manual focusing. The green bars on Focus Confirm also do not work.

Thanks for reading, great work!

Orhan
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: maitimaus on May 19, 2015, 07:01:26 PM
I updated today to the Nightly.2015May10.70D111B :)

There is still a problem with the ISO value which is displayed during the classical RAW video shot:

ISO 100 => ML: ISO 100
ISO 125 => ML: ISO 100
ISO 160 => ML: ISO 200
ISO 200 => ML: ISO 200
ISO 250 => ML: ISO 200
ISO 320 => ML: ISO 400
ISO 400 => ML: ISO 400
ISO 500 => ML: ISO 400
ISO 640 => ML: ISO 800
ISO 800 => ML: ISO 800
ISO 1000 => ML ISO 800
ISO 1250 => ML: ISO 1600
ISO 1600 => ML: ISO 1600
ISO 2000 => ML: ISO 1600
ISO 2500 => ML: ISO 3200
...

Anyone else having this problem? :)
Another question: Is it normal that the ML menu is automatically closed after 6 seconds?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: TechnoPilot on May 19, 2015, 07:49:26 PM


I updated today to the Nightly.2015May10.70D111B :)

...

Another question: Is it normal that the ML menu is automatically closed after 6 seconds?

The ISO issue I will let someone else address, but as for the random menu closure, this is a know ML bug that, if I'm not mistaken, was first seen in the build for the EOS M and occurs when opening the ML menu from LiveView.  There may not be a workaround for this in the near future.  If you are needing to be in the menu for an extended period of time, switching over to photo mode without LiveView will allow you to stay in it for an extended period.  What may also work, although something I have not checked yet, but it may also work when LiveView needs reactivation after changing shooting modes in video mode.

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mallowsm on May 19, 2015, 07:57:50 PM
Mallowsm you have to enable it yourself "70d B" 0xFF19B6C8 PROP_DUAL_OUTPUT

Can someone help me with this id be very greatful
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: TechnoPilot on May 19, 2015, 07:59:47 PM
Can someone help me with this id be very greatful
This is also something that I will be needing in a few months time, can we figure out how to make this an option in the ML menu for future releases?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mallowsm on May 19, 2015, 08:02:35 PM
This is also something that I will be needing in a few months time, can we figure out how to make this an option in the ML menu for future releases?

Yeah i bought an atomos cheap off ebay and love to get uncompressed to it via the hdmi
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: samdinzey on May 19, 2015, 09:55:43 PM
I noticed that in the firmware update for the MKIII they made a clean HDMI output available, would this make it possible to make the option available for the 70D?
I also have a Ninja 2 and would love to be able to film uncompressed. I love ML and the doors that it has opened up for my camera so far!  :)

If you hear anything feel free to email me [email protected]
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chrisfrancia on May 19, 2015, 10:25:19 PM
@maitimaus, This is largely speculation and I do not feel like finding out if this is how ML is on other cameras but, I think its a safe bet to say that... When shooting RAW the digital ISO's are disabled so we are left with the actual ISO's as options only. Also any iso inbetween exposure 'changes' you see in camera could be considered just live view simulation?

I was going to wait and let someone else answer but since no one has, maybe someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 19, 2015, 10:40:52 PM
Just for my selfnotes while trying to polish up things:

Work in progress checking props in ROM:


Don't quote or comment this.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: TechnoPilot on May 19, 2015, 10:41:05 PM
@maitimaus, This is largely speculation and I do not feel like finding out if this is how ML is on other cameras but, I think its a safe bet to say that... When shooting RAW the digital ISO's are disabled so we are left with the actual ISO's as options only. Also any iso inbetween exposure 'changes' you see in camera could be considered just live view simulation?

I was going to wait and let someone else answer but since no one has, maybe someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
@chrisfrancia, @maitimaus - This was also my assumption.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: OlRivrRat on May 20, 2015, 05:36:31 AM
                        @Mallowsm & @TechnoPilot & @Chucho

          Sure seems to me that since it was Chucho that posted this ~

"Mallowsm you have to enable it yourself "70d B" 0xFF19B6C8 PROP_DUAL_OUTPUT"

That Chucho should step up & explain ~ as probably should have done in the 1st place ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: austux on May 20, 2015, 07:06:51 AM
ML seems to be working fine on a 70D ex Hong Kong (it wanted rev A 21 Apr of the ML Zip, when I started it with rev B 23 Apr on the card it told me off for wrong firmware revision).

Hello from Albany, Western Australia. My previous camera was a 40D, am delighted to be able to claim steady images in low light 'by hand' with the 70D which would have necessitated a tripod with the 40D (which meanwhile is in the hands of another family's 15yo eldest son, who is learning very fast).

Are there any plans afoot to circumvent the for-tax-reasons 29 minute 59 second firmware limitation on video recording length?

If so, what can I do to contribute?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 20, 2015, 07:28:42 AM
H.264 recording will always stop at 23:59:59. All other cams have an option to restart recording automatically. Losing some frames cannot be avoided.
70D not restarting - at the moment - has to be called a bug.

MLV seamless recording for +30 minutes is not tested yet and I don't know why.
All other cams have this feature (Nightly builds after 01/29/2015).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 20, 2015, 02:09:43 PM
Still chasing for record ML_Raw after skipped frame.  This is available option on 5DMIII.
Not sure how many frames/time lost between stop/start, but certainly helps with high res. raw on 70D.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mallowsm on May 20, 2015, 09:38:39 PM
                        @Mallowsm & @TechnoPilot & @Chucho

          Sure seems to me that since it was Chucho that posted this ~

"Mallowsm you have to enable it yourself "70d B" 0xFF19B6C8 PROP_DUAL_OUTPUT"

That Chucho should step up & explain ~ as probably should have done in the 1st place ~

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 20, 2015, 11:04:59 PM
As for 2048x856 @ 2.39, 5x zoom hence MF, fps dialed to 23.99.
I can get about 200 frames, however when I hit record the LCD freezes for the most part as well as the second counter, but its actually shooting.
So it maybe that fps is working but not updating the LCD screen when shooting, so its a very lame way of shooting. The picture is very sharp mind you.

Another question:  Not sure but somehow my Aperture is locked??? 
I cant adjust it using the usual button, I can only set it inside trash-can ML Expo menu and scroll to aperture???
How to turn the lock off???
-- OK problem solved,  CFIII other - item 2, uncheck the quick-control dial.  It was a Canon s/w setting.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: flou on May 21, 2015, 12:38:01 PM
So I thanks all for hard work!!!

My question is?

The 7d mkii have the ability to control how ‘’fast’’ the AF adjusts to a change in focus point in the move mode , (You can set the AF adjustment speed* (focus transition speed) to one of five levels, from standard speed to slow, to obtain the effect you desire. In addition, you can determine when the AF speed adjustment takes effect. “Always on” sets the AF adjustment speed to take effect at all times for movie shooting (before and during movie shooting). “During shooting” sets the AF adjustment speed to take effect only during movie shooting.)

So, this ability (adjusts the AF speed for movie) can the ML make possible for the 70D ?????????????????

This ability you can see in link: http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/standard_display/eos_7dmkii_feature_hd (http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/standard_display/eos_7dmkii_feature_hd)


AF speed
(http://learn.usa.canon.com/app/media/images/articles/eos7dmkii_video_features/eos7dmkii_video_14__hero.jpg)


Movie Servo AF speed
(http://learn.usa.canon.com/app/media/images/articles/eos7dmkii_video_features/eos7dmkii_video_15__hero.jpg)


Movie Servo AF track area
(http://learn.usa.canon.com/app/media/images/articles/eos7dmkii_video_features/eos7dmkii_video_16__hero.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mallowsm on May 21, 2015, 07:30:13 PM
Id still love some help with the clean HDMI out on the 70d. Uncompressed. Like i said I've just purchased an atomos and id love to unlock its full potential, the camera this is. If anyone can help me please id be very grateful.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 23, 2015, 10:31:20 PM
Ok here's one to file away.
It seems the 70D runs hot.  And by that I mean I have yet to see anyone shoot 3200 ISO raw video for 30s without hot pixels (in rather significant numbers).
If one does the Canon "pixel remap" it only gets the pixels which are hot right away.  It does not get those that appear after 30s.
Yet in video, and especially raw shooting, we want to remap after 30s or so (as that's when the most appear).
So to enable the 70D to shoot video at 3200 ISO, one needs to hack the pixel remap, so it can correct for the hots at 30s.
One would need to filter as to remove any 255 (RGB).  Perhaps all one would need to do is click a picture after 30s, and
export to PS, and create a template that only has 255 RGB pixels on it.  Then one would need to read that picture back in,
and use it during the pixel remap.  ~ That's the best chance to get a proper pixel remap. 
Or we could wait for Canon's next 70D update (and the tooth fairy to put a quarter under your pillow).

Ofcourse the do nothing arguement goes like this.
High ISO video/pictures have blocky shadows and weaker colour.
So even if you get a high ISO raw video, its colours are not as rich as low ISO.
The whole advantage of raw video, is richer colours. 
So why not just shoot up to ISO 800 as a max. (which is about highest ISO with only a few hot pixels) for raw video to ensure your video has rich colours. 
If you must shoot high ISO video shoot in H264 (flat pic style for higher DR) with higher bitrate  (which gives slight better detail and contrast)
as comparable solution still providing blocky shadows and weaker colours.
   
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: MattNoir on May 24, 2015, 12:21:37 AM
Just quick question - how do I run cr2hdr on a mac? I downloaded and installed exiftool and dcraw and it always says:

cr2hdr: a post processing tool for Dual ISO images

Last update: f381b87 on 2014-07-06 09:46:41 UTC by phil:
Fix output (-o) filename value passed to Adobe DNG Converter wh...

Active options:
--amaze-edge    : use a temporary demosaic step (AMaZE) followed by edge-directed interpolation (default)
--cs2x2         : apply 2x2 chroma smoothing in noisy and aliased areas (default)
--wb=graymax    : set AsShotNeutral by maximizing the number of gray pixels (default)

Input file      : /Users/Matt/Desktop/DualISO/IMG_7766.CR2
Camera          : Canon EOS 70D
Camera model    : Canon EOS
dcraw could not open this file

However I somehow managed it to work before (now it just says same text). What can be wrong?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 24, 2015, 12:29:42 AM
When AUTO ISO is set in ML Exposure tab, the Canon ISO max is ignored.  That is a bug. ** Did not find a bug report link in page 1 article --- help**
AUTO ISO with ISO MAX is very important in low light shooting.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: masterhks on May 24, 2015, 04:49:21 AM
In the next ML update i like to developer fix softness focus on wide open lens, i contact canon to ask for new firmware update for AF fix but from canon tell me no more updates for 70D this is ridiculous..
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Fatherjack57 on May 25, 2015, 08:15:04 PM
I installed ML version A on my 70d the other day.  I haven't tried everything as yet but most of it seems to work.  The only thing I find missing are the audio level meters, may be this has already been mentioned but I couldn't find anyone referring to them.  I have only just joined this forum so forgive me if I'm going over 'old ground'.  Will they be included in future up-dates or are they hidden and I can't find them ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: MiamiC70 on May 25, 2015, 08:41:46 PM
Any word when ML will be ready for Beta?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 25, 2015, 08:56:41 PM
Yes, FAQ -> Troll section, last entries there.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: xsghost on May 26, 2015, 07:43:25 AM
I installed ML version A on my 70d the other day.  I haven't tried everything as yet but most of it seems to work.  The only thing I find missing are the audio level meters, may be this has already been mentioned but I couldn't find anyone referring to them.  I have only just joined this forum so forgive me if I'm going over 'old ground'.  Will they be included in future up-dates or are they hidden and I can't find them ?

There is no audio for this version of ML. And who knows what the future holds?..
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: TechnoPilot on May 26, 2015, 08:47:09 AM
In the next ML update i like to developer fix softness focus on wide open lens, i contact canon to ask for new firmware update for AF fix but from canon tell me no more updates for 70D this is ridiculous..
@masterhks - It would seem you either need your glass calibrated, your body, or both, but I have zero problem with very fast glass on my 70D including f1.4 and f1.2.  This has nothing to do with firmware.  Also I will point out that if you have the controlled environment to do it, you can also adjust the focus system to compensate on a lens by lens basis in the 70D, much like the 1D series originally pioneered.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: masterhks on May 26, 2015, 06:43:56 PM
@TechnoPilot - softness is only by VF not in LV and i calibrate lens few time but one time is +3 next time is +9 or +12, send to canon and back my camera and lens without fixed problem, and the 7D MARK II have the same problem but now with the new firmware 1.0.4 problem is solved....
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: TechnoPilot on May 26, 2015, 06:55:16 PM
@TechnoPilot - softness is only by VF not in LV and i calibrate lens few time but one time is +3 next time is +9 or +12, send to canon and back my camera and lens without fixed problem, and the 7D MARK II have the same problem but now with the new firmware 1.0.4 problem is solved....
@masterhks - I hate to say but that sounds like either a specific problem with your body or lens.  I have not had any problem with my 70D on my f1.2, f1.4 or f1.8 lenses other then the need for one of them needing a calibration value that does fix it long-term.  I hate to say but I'm pretty positive what you are talking about though is not a general firmware issue for the 70D, are in the scope of Magic Lantern at this point, and definitely aren't in the scope of this alpha build.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: chrisfrancia on May 26, 2015, 07:59:28 PM
have you checked the diopter setting on your VF?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bigorna on May 26, 2015, 08:31:42 PM
The diopter only affect the viewfinder, so it has nothing to do about this behavior either.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: bigorna on May 26, 2015, 09:22:25 PM
@TechnoPilot - softness is only by VF not in LV and i calibrate lens few time but one time is +3 next time is +9 or +12, send to canon and back my camera and lens without fixed problem, and the 7D MARK II have the same problem but now with the new firmware 1.0.4 problem is solved....

I still suspect that a different AFMA may be needed for different subject distances. I don't know how you did your tests, anyway I have to investigate this further.
I own a Canon 50mm 1.4

This thread should not be used for this discussion. Feel free to PM me if you want to exchange experiences about this, though.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: MysteriousLight on May 26, 2015, 10:58:21 PM
Sorry if this had already been adressed. I read about 10 pages and i havent seenit adressed directly. I havent installed the alpha build but im planning on testing it once it gets to beta. 

The current duration time for maximum resolition of 1800something x 764 is at 15 seconds. I read somewhere that there is a "movie restart" function to circumvent the 29:59 recording limit but not used for the higher resolution raw files. 

My question would be is the short duration time being worked on? Meaning do the developers intend to eventually increase the recording time to continuous for maximum resolution.

Im new to magic lantern so im not sure if this is a common ML quirk. Im planning on using ML for recording hour long footages so im interested in knowing developments regarding this issue.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 26, 2015, 11:06:01 PM
1800 x 764 x 24 x 14 / 8 = 55 MByte/s required with 24 fps.
SD-card interface in 70D is limited to about 41 MByte/s and is nothing you can do about.
Mission impossible.

Lower frame rate or resolution.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: MysteriousLight on May 27, 2015, 01:45:28 AM
So it seems to be a hardware limitation.

As far as im aware of the current limitations of 70d are the 4gb, 30 minute limit, and also the 41 mbps write speed.

So if i plan on shooting 30 minutes i would need to reduce the resolutions to around 1500x600p. (1500x600x24x14/8=38mbps) Drawing from this, ML Is preferable for film projects that usually have 1 minute scenes and not for documentary type of productions that have 20+  minutes of continuous footage.

At this point im wondering if a 1500x600 RAW footage would beat a 1920x1080 h264. That will give me less detail when it comes to resolution but more detail when it comes to color depth. Dont take this as a slgith against ML and all the work that went into it,  but since 1080p is now becoming industry standard, im guessing 1080p with h264 would probably be a better bet than a 14 bit raw video at half the resolution since i doubt upscaling 600p to 1080p would cut it even if it is 14bit.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on May 27, 2015, 04:05:44 AM
...Drawing from this, ML Is preferable for film projects that usually have 1 minute scenes and not for documentary type of productions that have 20+  minutes of continuous footage....

Dont take this as a slgith against ML and all the work that went into it,  but since 1080p is now becoming industry standard, im guessing 1080p with h264 would probably be a better bet than a 14 bit raw video at half the resolution since i doubt upscaling 600p to 1080p would cut it even if it is 14bit.

No, not really....  As already stated, it's a hardware limitation of the 70D.   If you need 20+ minutes of continuous footage at 1920x1080 24fps 14-bit RAW, then get a 5D Mark III and put ML on it.  The CF card interface of the 5D3 is plenty fast enough to accomplish your needs and ML runs beautifully on it for your RAW shooting pleasure.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 27, 2015, 08:54:21 AM
30 minutes limit in RAW mode for 70D has yet to be confirmed. All other cams are doing seamless recording for +30 minutes with latest ML builds.
Wondering why nobody tested it yet ...

There seems to be a bug in H.264 operation, though. ML (for other cams) will automatically restart recording after 29:59:59 break (loosing about 0.5 seconds during transistion). 70D's switch seems not to work, according to testers.
And there is no 4 GB limit in 70D. Canon implemented file splitt without frame loss in H.264 some time ago for 650D and others.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: MysteriousLight on May 27, 2015, 10:47:40 AM
Quote
No, not really....  As already stated, it's a hardware limitation of the 70D.   If you need 20+ minutes of continuous footage at 1920x1080 24fps 14-bit RAW, then get a 5D Mark III and put ML on it.  The CF card interface of the 5D3 is plenty fast enough to accomplish your needs and ML runs beautifully on it for your RAW shooting pleasure.
5D Mark III is certainly up there when it comes to future purchases. I'm comparing it to GH4 which has 4k, but only has 8 bit color depth.

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30 minutes limit in RAW mode for 70D has yet to be confirmed. And there is no 4 GB limit in 70D. Canon implemented file splitt without frame loss in H.264 some time ago for 650D and others.
All other cams are doing seamless recording for +30 minutes with latest ML builds.
Wondering why nobody tested it yet ...

There seems to be a bug in H.264 operation, though. ML (for other cams) will automatically restart recording after 29:59:59 break (loosing about 0.5 seconds during transistion). 70D's switch seems not to work, according to testers.
My mistake 4gb limit was not 70d but due to the fat32 disks. It's not that big of an issue for me since it doesn't stop the recording. 30 minutes is when it stops and that is usually my main issue since I sometimes find myself recording along steep cliffs and slippery terrain that me not needing to go back multiple times to press the record button is not only more convenient but a lot safer.

I do wonder, again forgive my lack of knowledge of ML, but could I possibly adjust the bit depth to perhaps 10 bit and record close to 1080p? That would be the ideal trade off?Something like 1536x864? 1536x864x24x10/8=40mbps.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 27, 2015, 10:54:44 AM
10bit RAW: Not an option right now.
If there ever will be: No idea.
Take a look into HDMI recording, though.
Camcorder might suit your needs better, I suppose.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 27, 2015, 02:28:15 PM
What is possible for RAW video at higher resolutions, is to start a new clip after a skipped frame.
There will be a lag or time lost between clips.  This is mission possible for 70D, and is done on the 5DM3.

I am curious to know how fast a new movie can be started after a skip frame? 

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 27, 2015, 02:34:16 PM
It is not necessary to restart after skipped frame. There is option "Frame skipping" in MLV submenu.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on May 28, 2015, 12:12:11 PM
When can we expect to see audio monitoring?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 28, 2015, 01:50:26 PM
So having compared auto-ISO & ISO range of ML, as set in autoexposure module,  on 600D with 70D
Its confirmed there is a bug, ISO range is not working when ISO is set to Auto.

I tried an ISO  range of 100-800, and found with auto ISO it would routinely go to 6400, 3200, 1600 depending on lighting.
It works fine on 600D.

Still looking for a bug entry log.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on May 28, 2015, 01:52:45 PM
When can we expect to see audio monitoring?

There is an excellent comprehensive answer to that question here (http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/faq#when_will_you_implement_xyz)...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Frarike on May 28, 2015, 02:21:24 PM
There is an excellent comprehensive answer to that question here (http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/faq#when_will_you_implement_xyz)...

I'm sure you think you are so smart and funny. However if you were you would realise that I was just asking if it was being worked on. I'm also sorry that your life is lacking something otherwise so you wouldn't have to post boring remarks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: JohnnyG_71 on May 28, 2015, 02:29:49 PM
I'm sure you think you are so smart and funny. However if you were you would realise that I was just asking if it was being worked on. I'm also sorry that your life is lacking something otherwise so you wouldn't have to post boring remarks.

My deepest apologies...   That question is actually answered in detail here (http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/faq#any_progress_on_xyz)...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: snakec on May 28, 2015, 06:59:05 PM
What news for Dual iso & Lightroom 6/camera raw 9 ????
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 28, 2015, 07:14:24 PM
What are you missing?
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 29, 2015, 01:09:22 AM
@Walter Schulz:

So I've finally gotten myself a 64GB Sandisk Extreme Plus SD card (80MB/s) and wanted to give the 70D a try with the 30+ mins continuous recording for MLV/RAW -- however I have a question to ask because when I set the MLV into smaller resolution such as 1280x720 in 23.97fps in order to try and surpass the 30 minute mark without filling up the card with the May 10 build from @nikfreak's post (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg147228#msg147228post) #986.

Apparently with that setting I was only able to get to about 26 minutes of MLV footage (yes I set it in exFAT) before it ran out of space -- so the real question is should I set the resolution to smaller sizes in order to try and pass the 30 minute mark or would you rather have me get a bigger card? lol

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7765/18023816810_0ffbd4af12_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/tsGLNf)

For some reason, I don't think MLRV likes the spanning files directly from 70D because it won't playback at all on my 2006 MBP.

I think it would be ideal to try this test again with smaller resolution just to see if it works -- correct?

Thanks, W!

p.s. As soon as I get home from work and will try these files again on my more powerful Mac Mini to confirm this furthermore.

*UPDATE*

Well I aggressively decided to try again and this time I only wanted to run it through just once (one MLV file was 63.85GB) as oppose to multiple files with multiple spanning files all over the directory (which I think it was causing the issue in playback earlier) and it played back just fine in MLRV with the new file... so I'm pretty sure it works just as long as you have enough space on your card as well as certain resolution to compensate for the 30+ minutes depending on your card spec's as well.

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7730/17592689713_dbc930893e_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sNB8Jr) (https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7767/18214911091_776149f8e7_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/tKAbte)

https://vimeo.com/129173791 (https://vimeo.com/129173791)

So does this mean it is good news for all of us, after all?

*UPDATE #2*

Confirmed on my Mac Mini (works well with MLVFS -- Thanks @dmilligan):

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7729/18222591691_c87d67cf20_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/tLgxDn) (https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7760/17600757273_9bd36cd578_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sPjtWi)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mallowsm on May 29, 2015, 05:14:32 PM
Is there any news on getting clean unconpressed video via the hdmi. Someone said i should enter some code and left it at that. No explanation into how
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: MysteriousLight on May 30, 2015, 01:13:21 AM
Quote
Apparently with that setting I was only able to get to about 26 minutes of MLV footage (yes I set it in exFAT) before it ran out of space -- so the real question is should I set the resolution to smaller sizes in order to try and pass the 30 minute mark or would you rather have me get a bigger card? lol

I'm thinking of upgrading my SD card for this. As stated before 70d can only take advantage of up to 41MB/s but tests show it's actually in the 38MB/s. If 26 minutes at that resolution would take 64 gb, its probably a good idea to buy the biggest possible capacity of sd card which is the 256 gb.

Extreme pro 95MB/s seems overkill so would this suffice for maximum performance with 70d RAW? -> SanDisk Extreme 256GB U3/UHS-I SDXC with 4K Ultra HD, Up to 80MB/s Read;60MB/s Write- SDSDXN-256G-G46 (http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-Write--SDSDXN-256G-G46-Version/dp/B00P870LOK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1432940761&sr=8-1&keywords=256+sandisk)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 30, 2015, 06:28:53 AM
@Walter Schulz:
So does this mean it is good news for all of us, after all?

I supposed 70D would do fine in this respect and it is nice to have it confirmed. Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Matheus on May 31, 2015, 04:40:42 AM
Well, today I finally got time to mess around with the FPS Override setting AND with the MLV video setting, by trying a timelapse.
It worked well (FPS Override only works in High-Jello mode, though), but strangely enough, my video started to show some weird noise bands after a few minutes of recording:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IOeJsSrWEg

And more strange yet, right after recording it, if I took a picture, the image would come out cleanly, as if nothing happened.
Any ideas?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 06:38:25 AM
I get the same result Matheuss. I would suggest you try full-resolution silent pictures (MLV) + intervalometer for your next timelapse untill FPS override is fixed. I will disable it completely with the next update cause I already spent a felt multiple hundreds hours only for this issue and it doesn't look like the fix will come up shortly...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 09:48:42 AM
Updated first post with new download links. read changelog.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 31, 2015, 09:49:52 AM
Just in time for my birthday...

Thanks @nikfreak for the update!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 10:08:22 AM
Offtopic: me <<<<is Gemini, too. @DeafEyeJeydi Happy B-Day.

Ontopic quoting a1ex (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg147229#msg147229):
Quote
...

Because the number of menu options is huge, I'm not asking one user to perform all the tests. Just pick a few features you are interested in, and test them thoroughly.

Before including the 70D in the nightly builds, I'll disable all the features for which no feedback was received.

Any volunteers with time for doing some kind of basic overview table (Example1 (http://magiclantern.fm/features.html) / Example2 (https://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/features)) for 70D.111A or 70D.111B (guess one would suffice) based on the available menu features latest download??

Hint: There's also a Burn-in test called "Quick test (around 15 min)" in debug menu which you can run!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 31, 2015, 10:36:27 AM
Thanks & Just downloaded Alpha 6 -- will test thoroughly as much as possible and report back to you!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: X-STATE on May 31, 2015, 12:18:34 PM
hi!
Alpha6 does not show the shutter speed in LV mode - display N/A

still not working dual ISO in the video mode
continue to wait ... :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 12:22:04 PM
true and confirmed for movie mode! Please keep up testing (read changelog from 1st post to see what to look for) and use top-lcd for reading shutter speed ;-) i will keep an eye on that small issue and post an update at a later time. Let's see what else might not working first.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: cenkog on May 31, 2015, 12:23:52 PM
Which version should I download for my new 70D? B or A?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 12:31:57 PM
try both. if wrong camera it will display what to do. Just try. No risk.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on May 31, 2015, 01:27:09 PM
I have the same problem with the old version. In live view if I press the zoom in button the camera freeze. Only solution is to remove the battery. If I turn off the camera the LV is on.

None have this problem? Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 02:12:52 PM
I have the same problem with the old version. In live view if I press the zoom in button the camera freeze. Only solution is to remove the battery. If I turn off the camera the LV is on.

None have this problem? Thanks.

Can't reproduce on 70D.111A. Neither in LV nor Movie Mode. You got B? If so anybody else can confirm?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Conaxe on May 31, 2015, 02:34:44 PM
Can't reproduce on 70D.111A. Neither in LV nor Movie Mode. You got B? If so anybody else can confirm?
Got version B. Works fine in photo and video mode.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on May 31, 2015, 03:49:40 PM
I have the B version. The problem are in LiveView and MovieMode. Only in viewfinder the zoomin button works normal.

Magic zoom: off
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 04:20:50 PM
See answer before yours. Looks like there's maybe some misconfiguration on your cam. Tried to use another sdcard withfresh installed (default settings) ML?? If not it would be a good idea to try and report back what happens...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on May 31, 2015, 05:07:48 PM
I try with another card and I don't have the problem. Thanks

The first card is SanDisk Extreme 45MB/s with this I have problem
The second card is SanDisk Extreme Pro 95MB/s with this I don't have problem.

with everyone I start with default option of Canon 70D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 31, 2015, 05:14:17 PM
45MB/s card: Delete Autoexec.bin and *.FIR and ML directory from card. Copy Autoexec.bin. *.FIR and ML directory from 95MB/s card to 45MB/s card. Retry and report.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nk87 on May 31, 2015, 05:40:02 PM
I have the problem with magic zoom: I can't move this focus box (I can do it only when I call standart focus box). How to solve this problem? Is this bug or I can fix it in settings?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Frarike on May 31, 2015, 06:07:22 PM
I can't change the position of where to focus with magic zoom either. This is in manual focus on version A.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 06:28:55 PM
I can't change the position of where to focus with magic zoom either. This is in manual focus on version A.

Sounds like: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/59e7b48f0124
Noted down for next update. keep on testing

Update: Fixed in repository and available with next update. see source. Not fixed. Backed it out again. Causes weird issues in LV/MV with autofocus.... Let's try again  ;)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: Mr.Click on May 31, 2015, 07:36:50 PM
"I have an issue with the Alpha 5 A build, in Playback mode the Touchscreen sometimes freezes while zooming in. I have to leave Playbackmode to get the Touchscreen working again. It doesn´t matter if Quickzoom is enabled or not. It sometimes just freezes."

Edit: I found out that this Problem only appears, after I erased a Picture during Playback Mode, after erasing, the Touchscreen gets freezed.
I now went back to the earlier ML Version ( Alpha 4b) , with this Version,the Issue is gone. It only apears with the Alpha 5 A.

Thank you for the new Alpha 6. :)  I still have this Issue with this Build. I went back to Alpha 4b again, wich works best for my needs on my 70D till now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on May 31, 2015, 07:42:42 PM
@Walter Schulz I try your solution. Now I don't have problem never with Sd 45MB/s. Mistery
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ontheset on May 31, 2015, 07:53:39 PM
Tried everything.....I wanna throw it off the roof


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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on May 31, 2015, 08:01:23 PM
@ontheset: Restore cam's factory settings and delete ML directory, autoexec.bin from card and copy extracted Alpha6 files to card.

Retry and report.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 08:18:36 PM
Thank you for the new Alpha 6. :)  I still have this Issue with this Build. I went back to Alpha 4b again, wich works best for my needs on my 70D till now.

Hey Mr.Click. Please use Alpha6. As a workaround for your issue simply don't delete in cam or don't do it if you know you will need touch-af. reading through my own changelog's I notice that 4b was a cherry-picked build, meaning that I additionally added code parts from other branches which still might not be merged into the unified branch. I'll have a closer look again into it. But again I urge everyone to use Alpha6 and report their findings. Logs show that alpha6 has least problems compared to all earlier builds. Just awaiting still some confirmation from others regarding battery consumption, temperature feelings around wheel buttons or even measured/compared raw temperatures from debug menu (raw value), reported hot pixel starting at ISO 800 while raw recording and so on...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Mr.Click on May 31, 2015, 09:11:29 PM
ok I will give it a 2nd try  :)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 31, 2015, 09:59:10 PM
Ok so here my very video centric report.

General Video
Crop Marks __ working
Framing RAW & MLV _ working
Focus peaks ___ working
RGB histo__ working
ISO=Auto & Autoexposure ISO Range __ not working
Variable bit rate __ not available
fps rate_ _not available (worked somewhat in May 10th)
Focus Steps Screen( ++ -- - +) __ not available

Crop Mode 3X High Resolution (IPB 1280p, @2.39, 60fps, Zoom=5X):
2560x1072,@2.39, 30fps/ 74 frames (not sure its 60 fps, playback very slow) Note ML sets it from 60 fps to 30 fps after 5X zoom, would need fps override, yet on my 600D fps=60 did not bring back to 60 fps either?
2048x856, @2.39, 30fps/152 frames (not sure its 60 fps, playback very slow)
1920x804, @2.39, 30 fps/204 frames (not sure its 60 fps, playback very slow)
LV Screen at 3X   __ (no colour only B&W this is ML AUTO if use Canon its colour), record  freezes it (MF & blindly record frames).

1X Mode (IPB 1920p, @2.35, 24 fps)
1824x776, 24fps/ 372frames
LV Screen at 1X _ works

Hot Pixel Counts in Low Light (LongExp.NR=On, Hi.ISO NR=Strong, HTP=Off, 1824x764 @2.35, 24 fps)
ISO 100 ~ 20+ hot pixels *** Remarkably worse than previous!!! reloaded May 10th which was very usable to ISO 800.
ISO 1600, 1920x804/30 fps/505 frames ~117 skipped = 5-6 hot pixels, but in dark shadow a lot of noise (this is what mislead before, its not hot pixels but speckled noise in shadows)
Its seems to be lower hot pixels at ISO 1600, but noticeable shadow noise!
Tried Exposure->ISO Advanced -> set ML ISO to -2EV, got rid of noise.  But I am not sure what's going on with it,
since I set ISO to 1600, but equiv. ISO reports 400 equivalent, and its certainly not an ISO 1600 exposure, so it looks to be pushing it down 400 (-2Ev). 
Meaning ISO 1600 shadow noise is not prevented.  So now there is two low light categories Hot Pixels & High ISO shadow noise.

Dual ISO video _ need to check out.
Start after Frame Skip __ working
-  got 406 frames at 1824x776, with over 100 skips which seems a bit high.
-  Retried on May 10th at 3X mode, 1920x804 @ 30fps and ran for some 507 frames/220 skips. 
 
   
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on May 31, 2015, 10:31:49 PM
Cannnot seem to find one dead hot/pixel at ISO800! Also can't reproduce BW issues you are describing. Crop and all zomes modes work fine for me on 70D.111A. You got 70D.111B, right?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on May 31, 2015, 10:41:21 PM
Shoot in shadows at 1824 @ 2.35, then come up into dim light.  Rev B yes.
And for LV freeze, ensure you set a very high res. around 2K, the only way to get there is Canon 1280p/60 fps, the set ML_raw to 2K res, @ 2.39, then 5X zoom. Hit record & freezes - that's the bug!
The default to grey scale LV is actually default mode of ML at high resolutions, so that's not a bug. And from what others report its always been a very pixelated display.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: flyguygamer on June 01, 2015, 12:57:01 AM
I'm unable to install either version. With each the camera things there isn't a firware package there.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on June 01, 2015, 08:45:43 AM
The problem is not solved.

Canon 70D with all setting standard.
ML fresh installation.
Go in Live View
Press Info for view the ML overlay.
Then press AF Point Selection/Magic Zoom two time. First time no problem, from the second the live view button freeze.

Then try to exit from LV.

For me the only solution is to remove the battery.

In the post before i write problem solved because I don't set the ML overlay.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 01, 2015, 08:52:01 AM
You started to describe a problem with cards behaving differently.
Do you have different behaviour now or are both cards showing the same problem?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 01, 2015, 09:03:48 AM
I don't get it either. Seems unusual use case or like that. What about that press INFO button?? I might recheck myself at a later time but we did that and it was confirmed by others to work too. I would say use Global Draw option. Either on or off. Pressing Info button might indicate some problem with LV_BUFFER. Best would be you post some EDMAC screenshot on my other thread but I will try to replicate. In the meanwhile can bredy confirm what happens with MZ set to "Alwas on"?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 01, 2015, 09:16:13 AM
I suppose he is trying to say pushing zoom button twice in movie mode will stall cam. Happened with other cams, too.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on June 01, 2015, 02:48:38 PM
The problem are with all card. Same problem.
Global draw are setting standard "Always On".

I press Info button to see the ML Overlay, because with canon overlay display I don't have problem.

With Magic zoom active No problem found.

I press zoom button two time because the first time I don't have problem, the second time I press the Zoom the LV button freeze.

Sorry, but I don't speak english well.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: a1ex on June 01, 2015, 03:32:57 PM
Not sure I understand the issue correctly.

If you are in movie mode, and RAW or MLV is enabled:
- with Global Draw ON, press zoom twice. Result? (I assume crash)
- with Global Draw OFF, press zoom twice. Result? if it doesn't crash, it's probably related to display filters. Try disabling the grayscale preview in RAW/MLV submenu.

If it still crashes, disable RAW/MLV recording and press zoom twice. If it doesn't crash, CONFIG_RAW_DISABLE_IN_10X_ZOOM in internals.h should help (see for example 5D2 or 550D).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: devomk on June 01, 2015, 04:40:40 PM
Greetings to all members. Im new here and this is my first post/reply. I got 70D since half year and now i wanna try the ML sensation.  Im not lazy to read the all 47 pages of this tread, but mostly members are just complaning and reporting the bugs. I saw some short video how to uninstall the ML, which leads me to my question. It is true possible to uninstall the ML in case i don't like it. I just wanna try the famous RAW video before i bring my conto in minus and buy GH4.

P.S. I like to ask a favor for the OP to refresh tiny the first post with more info, snapsots... links of videos how to install, menu setup for us (read:noobs)... e.t.c.

Advance thx for answers
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on June 01, 2015, 05:00:41 PM
@a1ex

The problem are in LV mode and Movie mode. The same only with Global Draw ON and active in screen. From display without information I press 4 time Info Button and I see the ML overlay graphics.

With Global Draw Off don't crash, because the dispaly don't have ML overlay graphics.

Where is the RAW/MLV submenu?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ontheset on June 01, 2015, 05:05:55 PM
@Walter

Ok resetting the camera fixed that problem but  in dual iso activated it takes 4 consequtive pictures with lines on the image.

I have the B revision
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 01, 2015, 05:13:06 PM
The LV high res. 3X crop mode bug, that I find is sounds like what Walter is talking about.

1280p/60 fps, @2.39, 2k res. (2560 or 2048) selected in either RAW or MLVRAW, hit zoom twice to get 5X,
- ML will set fps to 30 fps from 60fps,  (would be nice if fps could be set using fps override to say 60 fps).
- after hit record then LV starts to stall, update so slow as you are now shooting blind. 
- if in ML RAW settings, I use ML preview default, it sets ML grey scale, which is very pixelated, or if I select Canon preview in colour but Canon's framing (this is not the bug that's Canon for you) ~  both stall to the point of being unusable.  You are shooting MF blind at that point but it is recording frames! (that's the bug no LV).

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: a1ex on June 01, 2015, 05:15:15 PM
@bredy:

I assume you are not using RAW recording, so it must be some overlay. Can you try with global draw on, and anything else disabled in the Overlay menu?

Just in case, can you also try in photo mode LV, with picture quality set to JPG in Canon menu?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on June 01, 2015, 05:41:11 PM
@a1ex

The problem is in Photo mode with LV active, RAW or Jpeg is same don't change.

But in Video Mode I try and I have the same problem.

If I active the Magic Zoom in Overlay Menù I don't have the problem.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Conaxe on June 01, 2015, 05:41:22 PM
Greetings to all members. Im new here and this is my first post/reply. I got 70D since half year and now i wanna try the ML sensation.  Im not lazy to read the all 47 pages of this tread, but mostly members are just complaning and reporting the bugs. I saw some short video how to uninstall the ML, which leads me to my question. It is true possible to uninstall the ML in case i don't like it. I just wanna try the famous RAW video before i bring my conto in minus and buy GH4.

P.S. I like to ask a favor for the OP to refresh tiny the first post with more info, snapsots... links of videos how to install, menu setup for us (read:noobs)... e.t.c.

Advance thx for answers
Welcome to the forum! You can uninstall ML. By formatting the card within the Canon menu. Pressing 'Q' will keep or remove ML.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 01, 2015, 05:51:40 PM
This information is not correct. By formatting you will remove Magic Lantern's files and directories from card and make the card non-bootable.
Cam's bootflag will still be there.
If you want to know how to uninstall please read first post of this thread.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: devomk on June 01, 2015, 05:58:00 PM
Thx gor the quick answers. I was good in android decompiling/recompiling and my brother is programer. If i can i will glad help in further developing for this trEad.

Regards!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 01, 2015, 07:09:15 PM
@Walter

Ok resetting the camera fixed that problem but  in dual iso activated it takes 4 consequtive pictures with lines on the image.

I have the B revision

I think I can't understand what you want. Lines in dualiso is kind of normal. Did you convert and edit in post?  ;D If so post a smal picture before and after editing. 4 pics in a row? No need to use bracketing with dualiso...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: devomk on June 01, 2015, 07:26:00 PM
With all respect Herr @Schulz. On the first post don't have instructions how to remove ML. I just format the card as i saw on some video. And i think seems all good.

Thats why i was talking the OP gotta put some more instructions on the first post, except the changelog.

Good work btw. Im not happy with the limitation of the raw video. But otherwise almost all seems good.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 01, 2015, 07:31:24 PM
@Walter

        Your "first post of this thread" & My first post of this thread must somehow be Different as each time that I see you tell people too

read the first post of this thread to find out how to uninstall ML, I go there (just for curiosity) to see if I can find it & I am UnableTo ~

What am I Missing ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 01, 2015, 07:42:44 PM
On the first post don't have instructions how to remove ML.

Willing to bet there is no info how to remove cam's bootflag? It's there.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 01, 2015, 07:48:07 PM
I added a note for uninstalling magic lantern to the 1st post. The installer states what to do, right?

Thats why i was talking the OP gotta put some more instructions on the first post, except the changelog.

My goal is rather to become officially merged into nightlies and then re-open a new thread. This one will be left as it is and closed if we get official one day. It will help new devs / porters to have an idea what to expect and how and what to ask from testers. They'll lbe able to copy&paste 1st post for their dev work...

Willing to bet there is no info how to remove cam's bootflag?

I added it 2 mins ago :-)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 01, 2015, 07:49:16 PM
No, it was there long time ago. In screenshot, bottom line. Attention to details, folks! <eg>
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: TechnoPilot on June 01, 2015, 07:58:57 PM
I hate to say to those that seem to be having a hard time figuring out how to install or uninstall ML, this was my first ever time using the software on a Canon camera and it was very easy to install and even simpler to uninstall.  Something I really want to thank Nikfreak for tackling since the Rev B release.  I just feel that with it being SO SIMPLE now, he, along with the rest of the testers, should not have to dedicate so much time to items that are not bug correction related.

Honestly the only thing I wish that was easier was rolling the install over onto my other cards without having to use extra software to make them bootable.

While I think it is great that we are improving the instructions for using the software, I feel like the information is already quite accessible and if you are unable to do the basic research, then perhaps an Alpha build isn't for you.  Just my two cents and should be taken with a grain of salt as a techie, but I really wanted to weight in on the efforts that are having to be made on items that are very easily sorted out with a little Googling or reading.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: devomk on June 01, 2015, 08:31:27 PM
Thx to Nikfreak for the "tip".. when i was installing  (for me A version ) i saw the countdown in the bottom.
And for  @TechnoPilot Klugscheißer, you don't have to be rude... after all, big wins coming with small steps.  Since 3 years i developing my own firmware for smartphones. I don't think that 1.6mb update gonna be problem for me...

Keep with doing great work developers... im with you 100%
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: TechnoPilot on June 01, 2015, 08:39:21 PM
Thx to Nikfreak for the "tip".. when i was installing  (for me A version ) i saw the countdown in the bottom.
And for  @TechnoPilot Klugscheißer, you don't have to be rude... after all, big wins coming with small steps.  Since 3 years i developing my own firmware for smartphones. I don't think that 1.6mb update gonna be problem for me...

Keep with doing great work developers... im with you 100%
@devomk - It was not meant at all to be rude or insulting, but instead just a bit of a reality check on the efforts put into answering searchable questions.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 02, 2015, 03:09:24 AM
Ok spent some more time to zero in on the LV 3Xmode high res bug.
It seems that raw preview set to default or ML greyscale is the problem. 
In that mode the focus peaks and the picture start to stall.
Preview set to Canon is pretty good LV action, I tried 2560x1072 with frame skip on, and was able to get 30 fps/ 100 frames for instance + a lot of skips mind you. 
So perhaps use Canon preview andsome marks for your crop when shooting 3X mode, high res.

Hot Pixels:
ISO 1600 ~ 4-6, after 300 frames
ISO 400 ~ 1-2, after 100 frames

Noisy Shadows, I did this using Sigma 50-150mm f2.8 glass.
ISO 1600, f2.8, 30 fps shutter 1/160, 5X zoom, is very noisy in shadows.
ISO 400, f2.8, 30 fps shutter 1/60, 5X zoom, is very good in shadows.
So I expect f1.4 glass will help a lot if you want higher shutter & low noise in shadows.


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on June 02, 2015, 09:28:16 AM
@a1ex nikfreak

I try to define the problem with Photo LiveView Mode.

The problem is only when in LiveView I set autofocus to 'Face detection + Tracking' and enable ML overlay graphic.
Then:
Active LV mode.
Set Global Draw to all mode and active on display with Info Button. You have to see the ML overlay graphic in LV.
Set Autofocus in LV to 'Face detection + Tracking'.
RAW or JPEG are same.

Now press ZoomIn button two time

The LV Button crash. The solution is remove the battery.

If I set the other Autofocus mode or MF I don't have problem.
If with same configuration I active Magic zoom with trigger mode set only to ZoomIn I don't have problem.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: pontius on June 02, 2015, 10:44:37 AM
Hi, so far I've tested alpha6, on movie mode ML overlay reports shutter speed as 'n/a' and MLV metadata 'infinity' or 0/1000.
Also I had no dead pixels on RAW video with alpha5b and now with alpha6 there are lots of them. Of course I can get rid of bad pixels easily with mlvfs using --bad-pix switch but processing frames will be lot slower.
Alpha5b example (http://i.imgur.com/PJoKf91.jpg)
Alpha6 example (http://i.imgur.com/HgD1T6D.jpg)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: X-STATE on June 02, 2015, 12:23:08 PM
Also I had no dead pixels on RAW video with alpha5b and now with alpha6 there are lots of them. Of course I can get rid of bad pixels easily with mlvfs using --bad-pix switch but processing frames will be lot slower.
is there any other way to remove hot pixels when converting to DNG?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 02, 2015, 01:30:49 PM
Some sum-up:
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: pontius on June 02, 2015, 03:08:27 PM
is there any other way to remove hot pixels when converting to DNG?
For MLV->DNG conversion I don't know other option than mlvfs with bad-pix option enabled, but if converting DNG to PNG is no problem then one can use some image processing software like GMIC with batch/bash script to apply dead pixel removal for every image file.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 02, 2015, 05:13:48 PM
@Nik

Also need to bug track the ISO=AUTO & ISO range not working in Auto Exposure.
This is crucial for low light, low noise/hot pixels shooting.

I am also wondering, and perhaps Alex/Walter can advise but it seems
that Canon ISO=AUTO & Canon's ISO Range, there should be a way that essentially turns off ML ISO handling
and returns things back to Canon default (presently this is buried in Autoexposure = ON additional parameters).  Most video is shot in Manual mode, with Auto ISO/range limited, so this is very useful for video.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 02, 2015, 05:29:25 PM
@ Pontius & Any Hot Pixel Reports

You have to realize that all cameras will eventually get hot pixels.  So its not entirely preventable.
That said there are number of things one must do, to minimize hot pixels and eliminate dead pixels, and that's why I am putting this out here, so folks dont just automatically report hot pixels without checking the preventables first.

1. Clean your sensor (inspect it and ensure there is nothing on it, the auto dust sensor is not enough!)
2. Sensor remap your hot/dead pixels (especially important if you see them all the time these are dead pixels).
3. Long.Exposure.NR=ON
4. Hi ISO.NR = STRONG
5. Highlight TP = OFF
6. Remove any VAF

Caution on low light tests:
High ISO creates shadow noise, which looks like random hot pixels.
Focus peaks ON, can mimic random noise when your screen is black or out of focus, turn it off, and recheck.
5X or 10X zooms, will be noisier than regular.  You may need to adjust exposure to compensate.

After having done that hot pixels should increase over-time/frames & increase in number with increased ISO.
If you see many hot pixels right at the start, something else is probably wrong (or your at some sky-high ISO).


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 02, 2015, 05:42:22 PM
I am also wondering, and perhaps Alex/Walter can advise

You mistake me for a dev but I'm not. And no 70D around to play with.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 02, 2015, 07:05:57 PM
@NikFreak & @Bredy

           Just attempted to Duplicate Bredys LV/AFFD LockUp & Can't make it happen ~

Hard to be AbsolutelySure I have AllSettings SameAs Bredy ~~    111.B
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 02, 2015, 07:11:25 PM
@bredy: Zip your ML\Settings directory, upload it somewhere and link it here. So others can use your ML settings for debugging your problem.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bredy on June 02, 2015, 07:40:59 PM
Are you sure have activated on the LCD the ML display?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: devomk on June 02, 2015, 07:49:53 PM
Guys. I kind a reset the shutter count yesterday when i flash the firmware. Its that normal? ... i know it's awesome
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 02, 2015, 07:52:09 PM
No, it is not normal and should definitely not happen at all.
Please post a screenshot showing shutter count status.
And by "flashing firmware" you meant "firmware update" using ML?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: devomk on June 02, 2015, 08:09:45 PM
Im on phone now. Yesterday before i flash the firmaware i had ocer 400 counts (I use the flashing word cause we use that word in xda Forum). After that ivwas removing the firmware with deliting it from sd card, and went outsude to take pictures. Today before i start shooting i had just 59 counts.... now i got 103. Cause im outside and taking pictures. I don't making up.. swear to my kids

http://s3.postimg.org/bf0lbr12r/20150602_200610.jpg


This is my count before 3 days. When i removed the canon from selling on ebay

http://s29.postimg.org/yzrlknbrr/Screenshot_2015_06_02_20_14_27.png
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 02, 2015, 08:35:47 PM
Please check Debug tab -> Shutter Count.
The numbers you are showing are telling how much pics have been taken after battery was loaded last time (AFAIK).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: devomk on June 02, 2015, 08:46:10 PM
OK. now i feel embarrassed. ... where to find Debug exactly? 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 02, 2015, 09:12:00 PM
Debug is a tab and part of the ML menu. Browse through Debug menu to find shutter count.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: devomk on June 02, 2015, 10:23:37 PM
My mistake... as i said, i feel embarrassed. I had to install again the ML to found out.

http://s28.postimg.org/bxvfro6ot/20150602_221624.jpg

The shutter speed in video mode can't be charged btw. Is that got some connection with the raw mode filming?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 02, 2015, 10:27:20 PM
@Bredy & @NikFreak

             In ML/Display/AdvancedSettings, set ScreenLayout to "3:2 display,t/b" & ReportBack ~

Was able to Dup' your issue with your Sett's ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 02, 2015, 11:05:35 PM
@Devomk

  " The shutter speed in video mode can't be charged btw. "

           Can Do if in Any Overlay/InfoScreen OtherThan ML ~ ML Overlay/InfoScreen shows N/A ~ But according to TopPanel  it is being changed ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: pierre2fun on June 02, 2015, 11:22:28 PM
Hello,

Testing the wonderfull silent picture mode using 70bv6 (Thanks, Alex).

I am afraid not succeded saving a Hres in DNG or MLV format.
The shutter (shot) did not works, idem with half-S but using the intervalometer and half-S two times after an AF ack seems working and display a message "set picture quality to RAW" but nothing is recorded on the SD card. -> Hi-Res is not working (DNG or MLV).

Using "simple" resolution works (using the intervalometer and half-S two times after an AF ack) works in both picture format.

Still testing.

Cheers
Pierre
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 03, 2015, 07:29:59 AM
did you check in Canon menu what the message prints? You need to set picture quality to RAW (+JPEG optionally)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: pierre2fun on June 03, 2015, 07:41:32 AM
Nikfreak,

You are right: it works fine now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Falcao_bh on June 03, 2015, 01:10:35 PM
Hello, installed 70d B and work fine. Can anyone help me to send CLEAN HDMI signal to atomos ninja blade? I can view the screen whith no info! But hdmi is no fulscreen. Help me!
Thanks from BRASIL!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ericdesign on June 03, 2015, 06:16:31 PM
hi why my 70D ML video tab wihout the bit rate and raw video??
please help and thanks very much.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Conaxe on June 03, 2015, 06:50:20 PM
@ericdesign you'll have to load the raw module. Bit rate is still disabled at this stage.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Mallowsm on June 03, 2015, 11:27:59 PM
Hello, installed 70d B and work fine. Can anyone help me to send CLEAN HDMI signal to atomos ninja blade? I can view the screen whith no info! But hdmi is no fulscreen. Help me!
Thanks from BRASIL!


I would also love to get clean uncompressed to an atomos
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 04, 2015, 02:30:11 AM
Well to get clean outs, one needs to erase the 0. The 7D has clean outs, the 70D crops the HDMI signal.
The 70D clean outs can be obtained using USB & EOS software on a desktop.
There is this hybrid solution involving DSLR controller app, android device, wireless network,  & chromecast. 
The hybrid solution is really just using USB & android apps.
There are other h/w threads to discuss this.

PS: 7DM2 or 5DM3 provides clean outputs for FHD, check out the atomos compatibility.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: rorysb on June 04, 2015, 04:08:00 AM
Hi all, Thank you so much Magic Lantern team for doing this. I have a question:

Is there ANY way Magic Lantern could make it so that wireless is NOT disabled while shooting video? That would be immensely helpful in that it would allow us to use tablets as beautiful WIRELESS 1920x1080 video monitors via DSLR controller.   

As it stands you need to plug in via usb and when using devices like gimbals that is a problem and throws off the balance.

Thanks for any replies.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ericdesign on June 04, 2015, 06:13:41 AM
@Conaxe thanks very much
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Mallowsm on June 04, 2015, 11:37:42 AM
Well to get clean outs, one needs to erase the 0. The 7D has clean outs, the 70D crops the HDMI signal.
The 70D clean outs can be obtained using USB & EOS software on a desktop.
There is this hybrid solution involving DSLR controller app, android device, wireless network,  & chromecast. 
The hybrid solution is really just using USB & android apps.
There are other h/w threads to discuss this.

How do you mean erase the 0. How can the eos desktop app help me get clean uncompressed to the atomos ninja via a hdmi cable?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dmilligan on June 04, 2015, 12:48:13 PM
How do you mean erase the 0.
70D => 70D => 7D

in other words buy a different camera

How can the eos desktop app help me get clean uncompressed to the atomos ninja via a hdmi cable?
It can't. But you can record the USB video feed with an app (that's what he's suggesting). IDK what the quality or framerate of that will will be (probably not as good).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: SPalarius on June 04, 2015, 03:50:39 PM
Good day to all .tell me this method is suitable for firmware 70 d - version (A)
for all grateful.
http://rghost.ru/39586677
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 04, 2015, 03:59:14 PM
no, not suitable. official ML is only available in english language
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: SPalarius on June 04, 2015, 06:56:29 PM
а может где есть такое что б закинул в прошивку и она сменила язык ???
или так тут нельзя.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 04, 2015, 07:01:55 PM
             @Bredy & @Devomk

       A Response would be Nice ~ & Perhaps even Helpful to some of the rest of us ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: SPalarius on June 05, 2015, 04:38:23 AM
And now that the firmware for 70 d are not functions of HDR photography , I found with the change of braking but it's totally different and there 0 - ++ -++ what it is and how to use it , can anyone suggest .
for earlier thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: camslide on June 05, 2015, 09:08:10 AM
And now that the firmware for 70 d are not functions of HDR photography , I found with the change of braking but it's totally different and there 0 - ++ -++ what it is and how to use it , can anyone suggest .
for earlier thanks.
As you can read in the menu the 0 - + -- ++ represents normal, dark, bright, even darker, even brighter exposed picture.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Fatherjack57 on June 05, 2015, 01:57:47 PM
Installed ML Alpha 6 the other day.  I noticed that the internal temperature isn't being shown as it was with Alpha 5b, although this isn't a big issue but the other problem I have found, is the exposure simulation won't turn off in the movie mode, although it turns off in photo mode OK.  Is there something I need to do?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: TechnoPilot on June 05, 2015, 04:37:34 PM
Installed ML Alpha 6 the other day.  I noticed that the internal temperature isn't being shown as it was with Alpha 5b, although this isn't a big issue but the other problem I have found, is the exposure simulation won't turn off in the movie mode, although it turns off in photo mode OK.  Is there something I need to do?
@Fatherjacks57 - Internal temperature display was disabled in code since 5b, and will be until nitfreak can sort out the temperature discrepancy that existed.

Exposure simulation on the other hand sounds like a bug.  I'll crosscheck this on my camera...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 05, 2015, 05:20:02 PM
I saw the Exposure Sim. bug.  shooting video, tried raw with all else disabled except could not kill Expo. Sim.

F-Up question:  Is Dual ISO in video working?
I recall getting lots of horiz. lines  in the past did not see any (picture did has some variation in tones)?  I tried 400/1600  in MLVRAW and was able to get a decent pic (I was shooting 2K resolutions 24fps, @2.39,1/160s using f1.8 glass). However I did not check against 400 ISO (single iso) which has clean shadows & no hot pixels, but it certainly was not noisy in shadows like ISO 1600 (single iso).

I used the Mystic Dual ISO DNG converter and CC in AE. No hot pixels or noisy shadows, could it be that there is a way to use ISO1600 in 70D raw video?

It looks like Dual ISO video is not working either crop/no-crop mode.  I tried Mystic, convert MLV, and then convert Dual ISO.  Yuck! result. 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Canniballissimo on June 06, 2015, 11:22:07 AM
Please tell me, in this version of the ML is not the function Rack Focus? Or shooting stacks done differently? The firmware for the 1100d have a similar function.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: rvdeej on June 06, 2015, 04:01:24 PM
Hi folks,

Maybe a quick explanation is possible in how far this release adds "shoot" functions  for pictures. I was used to using the Magic zoom and then some options on the 700D. I'm taken a little by surprise the ML for 70D is in alpha version...

Does it have the options in the picture mode or are they still in development?
I'm not doing videos at all with my 70D... Mainly pictures...

Appreciate a little feedback about the picture enhancements available and stable...

(I already installed it and am playing with it...)

Regards
Tv
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Trent10 on June 07, 2015, 12:38:08 AM
I am trying to use my 70D to broadcast videos longer than 30min. HDMI out is connected to a blackmagic studio mini, which is then connected to my laptop running Wirecast. I was hoping I could use Magic Lantern to prevent the video monitoring output from shutting off after 30 min. I am not recording anything to the camera - just using it as a video feed.

I see you can have the camera automatically start recording video (after a short break) after it shuts off, but it doesn't seem like this function can turn back on the video output without starting the recording. I don't think it even turns on the viewfinder/video-out automatically anyway - just restarts recording.

Any help would be appreciated. I can't seem to find others trying to solve this problem.   
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: tait on June 07, 2015, 04:34:02 PM
Hello, it is the first time I install ML, on my 70D, I have the B revision. I found Expo. Presets is working when selecting the Press INFO option but not working on Press SET option.
I tried a few functions, they looked good. I had to turn the camera off to charge as battery is 6% remaining, however when I booted the camera again after charging, some errors appeared. remembered that the last operation was I enabled several modules. Below errors can be seen when viewing the picture.

Scanning modiles...
Load module...
  load: AUTOEXPO.MO
  load: DOT_TUNE.MO
  load: DUAL_ISO.MO
  load: ETTR.MO
  load: MLV_SND.MO
  load: SILENT.MO
LINKING...
tcc: error: undefined symbol 'mlv_rec_get_free_slot'
tcc: error: undefined symbol 'mlv_rec_queue_block'
tcc: error: undefined symbol 'mlv_rec_release_slot'
tcc: error: undefined symbol 'mlv_rec_get_slot_info'
tcc: error: undefined symbol 'mlv_rec_set_rel_timestamp'
  [E] failed to link modules
Save configs...
Save configs...

I am still able to take picture, not sure if it is a known error.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 07, 2015, 04:53:27 PM
Sure, MLV_SND.mo relies on MLV_REC.mo which is missing on your list.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: tait on June 07, 2015, 05:08:14 PM
Thank you very much, Walter. No more error with MLV_REC.mo turning on. I will read user guide and continue the testing.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 07, 2015, 06:14:47 PM
Trent10, if you just want HDMI output, why not put in manual, then remove all overlays (canon + ML)
and just let it output clean display to your external recorder. 
It will stay on until battery dies.  If you buy a power adapter then until you run out of recording space.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Trent10 on June 08, 2015, 01:09:53 AM
Trent10, if you just want HDMI output, why not put in manual, then remove all overlays (canon + ML)
and just let it output clean display to your external recorder. 
It will stay on until battery dies.  If you buy a power adapter then until you run out of recording space.

That is exactly what I am trying to do. I tried it again after reading your comment but the video output turns off automatically after 30 minutes even when I'm not recording. I've tried in camera mode and video mode - both in manual. I have disabled auto-power-off in the canon settings. It always turns off at 30.

Are there other settings I might be missing? Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Mallowsm on June 08, 2015, 02:02:38 PM
That is exactly what I am trying to do. I tried it again after reading your comment but the video output turns off automatically after 30 minutes even when I'm not recording. I've tried in camera mode and video mode - both in manual. I have disabled auto-power-off in the canon settings. It always turns off at 30.

Are there other settings I might be missing? Thanks for your help!

Your still not getting full uncompressed via the hdmi even if you do turn the overlays off? Ive got an atomos and would love to have full use of the hdmi out
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dmilligan on June 08, 2015, 04:04:37 PM
It always turns off at 30.
Recording raw video for longer than 30 mins was achieved by changing PROP_ICU_AUTO_POWEROFF. Theoretically this should also work for what you're trying to do.
Code: [Select]
    const int powersave_prohibit = 2;
    prop_request_change(PROP_ICU_AUTO_POWEROFF, &powersave_prohibit, 4);
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 08, 2015, 05:08:54 PM
              @WhomEver

       Why is the InstantRestart @ 30Min's not working ~ Even just for H264 ~ Don't need RawVid ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dmilligan on June 08, 2015, 05:46:51 PM
It's very time consuming to develop features that take 30mins to do a single test run. Considering this is a free time hobby project, most developers likely don't have that amount of time, patience, or care to work on something they are just doing for fun.

OT: it is very difficult to read and understand your posts. a1ex already expressed his frustration, and I would like to express mine as well. Please use plain English. Grammar was invented for a reason, and while native speakers may understand what you are saying, this is an international community, with many non-native speakers whom I'm sure find it next to impossible to understand you (esp. if they rely in small or large part on computer translation)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 09, 2015, 12:07:11 AM
             @DMilligan

       "Off topic" ~ I suppose I am to assume that you were pointing that @ me, (nice to know I'm not invisible, as I was starting to wonder if that might be the case).

        "Back on topic" ~ As for the (30Min' Shutdown & Movie Restart / Auto-restart movie recording), You made it sound as if it is fairly simple to do (for someone who

knows "Where & How" to make an alteration to what appears to be some "Code"), so I was just curious as to why, if it is that simple, it has not yet been implemented.

           Just so ya know ~ I am ever so deeply appreciative of NikFreaks apparent knowledge & patience & all the fine work he has done for those of us who are wanting

to get the full potential out of our 70Ds.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dmilligan on June 09, 2015, 02:46:40 AM
The "code" I provided (and it is actually real code and not just "code") is simply to prevent auto power off after 30 mins (which is the problem for raw video and external recording), not for recording h.264 or auto restart (which is more complicated, and extremely time consuming to test).

Even though the "code" is simple, it was not quick or easy to come by. This is a reverse engineering project. Sometimes it takes years of research (or even just random dumb luck) to figure out how to do something even if the result is a single line of code. And sometimes those findings are not portable to other cameras, and sometimes users clamoring for a build don't actually bother to do proper and useful testing and feedback that is actually helpful to developers. Instead they simply ask: "how do I get feature X to work?" or "when are you going to have feature X working?" or "I'm not a coder, but I figure X should be easy, why don't you have it working yet?"

And, it has been implemented, raw video does use that snippet of code (I copied that from raw_rec as a matter of fact). It's just not implemented for external recording (...yet. If someone wanted to, it would be fairly easy, even potentially possible to do from a lua script).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: MysteriousLight on June 09, 2015, 10:31:15 AM
I totally agree with the difficulty of developing and reverse engineering. Its very time consuming and can also be scary at times. Having some web development background, I know it can be a little intimidating to think that testing a particular code may just conpletely mess up all your work. In web developing you can back things up, but since you are actually risking an expensive camera you can potentially lose something permanently when testing ML code.

That being said, I would certainly be interested in knowing a time frame by which the project is expected to reach beta. 1-2 months 6-months to a year?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 09, 2015, 11:01:40 AM
It's ready when it's ready.
There are no timeframes within ML project.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: mocenigo on June 09, 2015, 12:02:04 PM
BUG REPORT: Since I installed ML ("B" branch) on my 70D I noticed that sometimes image panning and magnification via touch and pinch respectively stops working. It is difficult to reproduce reliably. I shoot a pic, I zoom in, sometimes panning via touch works, sometimes it does not. It exhibits the same behavior even if "quick zoom" under "image review settings" is turned off (but it does not seem to occur if I then restart the camera).

I would like to know if others experienced the same.

 Roberto
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 09, 2015, 05:19:14 PM
Walter your response kind of reminds of an
Abbott and Costello Routine.

When its ready?
Its ready when its ready
Great, but when Its ready?
When its ready.
When is that?
When its ready.
Look its not up to me, when Its ready?
You think It'll let us know?
Oh yes when its ready, you'll know.
You'll know when Its ready?
Yes, you'll know.
How can I know, when I dont even know what I am talking about!
... third base.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Trent10 on June 09, 2015, 06:58:42 PM
@dmilligan

I do not know how to write or implement code. Is the code snippet you posted to disable the auto-off function something I can cut and paste somewhere for the desired effect or would it require more code to get it to do what I'm trying to do? You mentioned it being something that could be accomplished fairly easily in Lua. I don't know what Lua is.

I don't expect someone to take this on, but if it is something I can get to work myself without destroying my camera I would like to give it a try.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: MysteriousLight on June 10, 2015, 12:37:57 AM
Quote
It's ready when it's ready.
There are no timeframes within ML project.
I was hoping for a more reliable answer, but I guess that would be too easy... so I guess I'll have to do my own estimation.

Canon 5d Mark III started alpha around September 2012, never reached beta until early 2015.

Canon 6d is started alpha december 2012, currently in limbo http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3904.0

Canon 7d (not mark II) started alpha december 2012, still in alpha...

So drawing from that info since 70d alpha started January, 2015 this will most likely take much MUCH longer to reach beta and highly likely it won't reach stable release within a reasonable time frame.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dmilligan on June 10, 2015, 03:45:17 AM
"alpha", "beta", "stable" are just words. Unlike a software business that might have strict definition of these terms (that involve various levels of QA, unit testing, acceptance testing, user testing, and so on), these words don't have any real meaning in our context (because we haven't strictly defined them). You can't even really compare these labels on different ML ports, b/c these ports had different developers and these labels are simply whatever the particular dev though they ought to be (and again this is because we have no definition of these terms for ML).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha5b 23rd April)
Post by: stig3824 on June 10, 2015, 03:52:40 AM
Anyone else having same experience or may verify above? I would just like to have it verified. In this case someone else with an older camera raw version would need to update to the latest version and share his/her experience with the end result. Actually I am a little bit confused with user experience. Some have no problems others do have 'em. Add to that different user scenarios like LR plugin or different cr2hdr versions (win/mac)- either downloaded from 1st post or provided by other tools. No offense to anyone.I just want to find the root cause of the reported dualiso issues because I have no clue atm what is causing them.
I have the same problem, but have managed to work around the problem by opening the dng in Photoshop (loads file without overexposure) then exporting as a tiff which I open in Lightroom 6.  For some reason Lightroom 6 doesn't load the dng's correctly but Photoshop does.

I have tested some other dual iso files members have on this post by converting the dual iso cr2 to dng.  I get the same results with those from the 70D, but the dng from the 6D works fine straight into Lightroom 6.

I have now tested with Lightroom 5 and the problem goes away.  There seem's to be only an issue with dng's from the 70D and Lightroom 6.

I have also posted this issue on the Lightroom forum https://forums.adobe.com/message/7628706#7628706
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: markpa on June 10, 2015, 07:14:23 PM
Two questions. I've been shooting using dual ISO and just recently switch to the new alpha release, now after converting the files to dng, all images have blocks/lines in them still. Ive noticed the converter was taken down from the first post , is there a reason for this? And should I be using another one with the new alpha release?


Second question .
I do lots of long exposure photography, when converting files from dual ISO is it normal to have lots of hot pixels?  Sometimes up near 200 or more on several
Occasions.

Any help here greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Fatherjack57 on June 11, 2015, 12:20:09 PM
I don't know if this has already been experienced, but I was trying some RAW video recording yesterday and when trying to check the footage, the camera didn't recognise the files.  In fact it said there was nothing there, however, when the sd card was put into the PC they showed up as being there.  I'm hoping the camera hasn't thrown a 'wobbly' but I haven't had a chance to check it out yet.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 11, 2015, 12:41:47 PM
Do you have MLV_PLAY.mo and FILE_MAN.mo loaded?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 11, 2015, 02:33:55 PM
Markpa love to hear a few more details on your long exposure time lengths & ISO used.
I was expecting to hear this, as I have been testing the raw video at high ISO, and spent a lot of time verifying hot pixels.
Long exposure should have the same sensor saturation response as video, because they basically have the sensor on for a considerable length of time.

You can review a few back posts of mine, but the long & the short of it. 
ISO 800 was the max usable, but still produced hot pixles less than 10 after 1 minute.
ISO 400 and bellow was quite usable, 1 - 2 hot pixels after longer times.
I am hopeful that dual ISO, will enable higher ISO use but that's only working for still photo's.  DeafeyeJ has produced some dual iso still shots, but I am interested to see with longer exposures the hot pixel/shadow noise profile.  This will pretty much predict how it will go for dual iso video (unless a really fast shutter reduces the saturation??? ... need to look at that).

Close related finding to hot pixels, is noisy shadows in low light.  They look like random hot pixels, and this again
followed the same ISO findings as above.  I would err on the side of caution and use ISO400 as a working max for video / long exposures.
 
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 11, 2015, 07:59:29 PM
*small feedback*

Decided to test out 70D w 50 1.4 AI.

Shot in MLV 1/48th 1824x1026p 23.984fps (no override) @ f1.4 & ISO 200-400 (w ND.9 filter):

https://vimeo.com/130413271

Workflow:
MLVFS > AE (Cinelog-C) > FCPX (Final Grade applied w [CFL] Kodak Vision Premier 2393 Grade 05) & export in 1920x1080p

Notice the strange effect approximately @ 22 seconds?

I checked the MLV file in MLRV to confirm and it is a messed up MLV (no big deal to me but thought it was worth noting?).

However, soon after that a few more MLV files started having a random line flick briefly (forget what they were called) but here are the screenshots:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/535/18686567776_eddacf2d75_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/utgxz3) (https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/357/18526656779_0a98b13753_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ue8XAT)

and yes this was all done with latest Alpha_6 build (May 31st) -- has anyone else experience similar somewhat of an issue even though it's random?

More in depth overall feedbacks coming soon for 70D.111B...

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Fatherjack57 on June 11, 2015, 09:30:07 PM
Hi Walter, thanks for the question.  As far as I know MLV_PLAY.mo and FILE_MAN.mo was loaded as it had been playing back RAW files (albeit, slowly) prior to this sudden refusal to recognise them.  However, I have found Alpha 6 a bit unstable in comparison to Alpha 5b and so I have uninstalled ML for the moment in order to check out the camera.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 11, 2015, 09:35:21 PM
@DeafEyeJeydi: I guess it could be related to introducing EDMAC_RAW_SLURP on 70D we could try another free channel and hope that it solves your problems. But I don't see me disabling EDMAC_RAW_SLURP again in the next days (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15233.msg148195#msg148195)(read text and check before / after pics). Actually 70D causes some other headaches (referring to listing3 [focus.c / lens.c] (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg147935#msg147935) and I am trying to find out what's wrong there first.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 11, 2015, 10:02:53 PM
Perhaps I should do another test with Canon 50mm lens to see if that so called bug would go away and hopefully it's due to using a Nikon lens w adapter?

Or do you know for sure that this is more related to Alpha6 instead?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 11, 2015, 10:20:25 PM
My feeling says for raw recording (not stills) return back to 5b until I announce a new build.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: X-STATE on June 12, 2015, 11:34:26 AM
My feeling says for raw recording (not stills) return back to 5b until I announce a new build.
Your feelings says this should be done for the two versions? A and B?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bigorna on June 12, 2015, 12:41:49 PM
@X-STATE
There is 5b for A and B versions...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: TechnoPilot on June 12, 2015, 09:32:58 PM
BUG REPORT: Since I installed ML ("B" branch) on my 70D I noticed that sometimes image panning and magnification via touch and pinch respectively stops working. It is difficult to reproduce reliably. I shoot a pic, I zoom in, sometimes panning via touch works, sometimes it does not. It exhibits the same behavior even if "quick zoom" under "image review settings" is turned off (but it does not seem to occur if I then restart the camera).

I would like to know if others experienced the same.

 Roberto
I would like to second this bug, I am having the same behavior on my 70D rev B running release alpha6.  Pinch zoom & touch panning does not work for me anytime I've tried to use it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Mr.Click on June 13, 2015, 03:27:43 PM
this Issue just happens after erasing a Picture.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: goldeneye243 on June 13, 2015, 03:29:46 PM
I am sure I have just not looked hard enough, but can I access dot-tune with the current build?

EDIT - Found it had to enable the module!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: flou on June 13, 2015, 03:44:32 PM
in Alpha6 how can se the Temperature of my 70D?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 13, 2015, 03:50:28 PM
You cannot. It was removed because there is some kind of confusion about the sensor's behauviour.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: TechnoPilot on June 13, 2015, 10:06:56 PM
in Alpha6 how can se the Temperature of my 70D?
You can still access the raw sensor values however from the Magic Lantern menu, though this is the raw value and not a true unit.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 15, 2015, 04:31:05 AM
I noticed the longer I ran Alpha 6, the more hot pixels I was seeing?  Probably needed to reset it all but agreed with Nik, so left it.

I switched back to May 10th, Alpha 5.B and this is my general observation.
Max. res 1824 ISO even 3200 did not produce hot pixels (OK 1 or 2) or shadow noise. Sure it was very grainy.
However in 3X crop mode, any ISO above 400, generated hot pixels and shadow noise.  Did not matter how fast the shutter was or low the f-stop.
The 3X crop signal is noisier and the higher ISO just amplifies the noise.  My guess is the dead/hot pixel remap is not applied during 3X crop mode.

Until variable fps is working, the higher res. settings are hard  to use, as frame skipping does not produce consistent timed skips. 
With variable frame rate one could set the fps low enough until its continuous, with a fast shutter and frame interpolation in post,
one could recover to 24fps.

Presently your best bet is to up res. from 1824 if you want a higher res. clip.     
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 16, 2015, 09:26:31 AM
*fun stuff*

Shot MLV with 70D.111B (Alpha5b) in 1280 x 720, 23.971fps with EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM @ ISO 200 (fireplace scene's @ ISO 800) and workflow as it follows:

cr2hdr-r_2.3 > AE (Smart Import 2 + Cinelog-C) > FCPX (colorgrade)

Pre_Cinelog-C:
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5347/18665410168_caf14ec703_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/urp79G) (https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3687/18855878881_815e8e5a25_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uJeiS2)

Post_Cinelog-C (ungraded):
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5473/18666983609_07a17c5e95_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/urxaSZ) (https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5590/18826900006_b54b2bb032_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uFEMsf)

Post_Cinelog-C (graded in FCPX):
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5468/18665408058_3ce031741e_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/urp6wj) (https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3885/18665454780_d430a62af9_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/urpkpS)
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3825/18665408558_7f202900ef_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/urp6EW) (https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5505/18665454360_b3c7e605c1_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/urpkhC)
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3887/18826898926_1de9418079_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uFEM8C)

Koji Sony SLog3Sgamut3Cine to SLog2709 2383 @76.79% + @Danne's Dan_log_01_warm_+15 @ 100% along with 03_cr2hdr-r_dan_log_bluey_contrast @ 16.07%:
https://vimeo.com/130843633

Kodak Vision Premiem 2393 Grade 03:
https://vimeo.com/130843632

*Update*
Koji Arri LogC to Rec709 2383:
https://vimeo.com/130960511
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Danne on June 16, 2015, 11:39:24 AM
Nice. Did you add a warm lut in the dannes customized luts movie?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 16, 2015, 02:28:10 PM
Shot some variable rate frames.
Canon 1280p 60fps, in ML set  2048 @2.39, dialed fps to 30 fps, 3X crop, the number of frames was fine for 30 fps.
So I continued and dialed to 12 fps, but notice via number of frames the lowest it could shoot was 20 fps.
I tried 6 fps, but again the lowest via number of frames was 20 fps. 

So the bug is the min. fps, is 20, as it wont go slower.

Ideally we want  to hit 12fps, as that's the min. acceptable for frame interpolation if you want to recover to 24 fps.
I suspect one could recover to 2K video @ 24fps, with a 12fps we should get 2K continuous.  Presently at 20 fps, its 13 sec. before frame skips.
 
 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 16, 2015, 03:40:49 PM
@ShootMeAlready: Not possible at the moment. It's either min. 16,666 or min. ~20fps due to the "fps override bug". We aren't able to set timer B. 70D differs from all other cams and I have no solution atm other than setting fps_timer_b_max = fps_timer_b_org (hint: old CONFIG FPS_TIMER_A_ONLY).

If you need lower FPS just use HiJelloFastTV mode. That should work as it only uses FPS timer A
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 16, 2015, 06:38:58 PM
Nice. Did you add a warm lut in the dannes customized luts movie?
Yes, Dan_log_01_warm_+15 @ 100% along with 03_cr2hdr-r_dan_log_bluey_contrast @ 16.07%
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: sweetshoot15 on June 16, 2015, 09:31:50 PM
@DeafEye  how do you like that 10-18mm on the 70D?  I was thinking of picking one up, although all my other lenses are f/2.8
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 16, 2015, 09:40:37 PM
@DeafEye  how do you like that 10-18mm on the 70D?  I was thinking of picking one up, although all my other lenses are f/2.8

TBH, I think it's an OKAY lens (the only reason why I use it is for Gimbal purpose because its STM works well for AF on 70D) and it's extremely LIGHT but I learn that its best to close it down to 5.6 so when zooming in/out it doesnt change the exposure otherwise you will see what you saw in my clip above going from f4.5 to 5.6 during the zoom in... a major turn off for me!

Which 2.8 do you own?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: sweetshoot15 on June 16, 2015, 09:47:58 PM
TBH, I think it's an OKAY lens (the only reason why I use it is for Gimbal purpose because its STM works well for AF on 70D) and it's extremely LIGHT but I learn that its best to close it down to 5.6 so when zooming in/out it doesnt change the exposure otherwise you will see what you saw in my clip above going from f4.5 to 5.6 during the zoom in... a major turn off for me!

Which 2.8 do you own?

Thanks for the info!  Looking for a reasonably priced wide angle lens.   I currently have a Tamron SP 17-50mm f/2.8 VC  and a Tamron SP 70-200mm f/2.8 DI VC USD.  The 17-50 hunts a bit in low light as compared to the 70-200.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: X-STATE on June 18, 2015, 10:33:30 AM
Hi!
Aliasing and moiré make me cry :'( :'( :'(
Shot RAW with 70D.111A (Alpha5b) in 1824 x 776, 25fps ISO 100
Lens: Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 DC HSM
Graded in Adobe After Effects
Edited in Adobe Premiere pro
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Jaquen on June 18, 2015, 09:51:05 PM
The installation of alpha6 on my 70d was pretty smooth. But when i'm reading thru the ML menu it switches back to live view sometimes after a second sometimes after 4 seconds. The magic zoom flickers continuously. Zebra stripes only show in Rec mode not live view (not sure if thats normal). I had one crash today and it wouldnt power off i had to take out the battery. How do i submit the log? How can i get previous verions of more stable ML? Also later that day in rec mode the screen had a magenta over cast and flickered terribly. the last picture also was showing on the live view screen but somewhat transparent somehow.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: pulec7 on June 18, 2015, 10:04:05 PM
Hello, Now I have a week to play with ML 600D and now I dared to install ML on my other body 70D. Most of the stuff is ok but I can not find bitrate settings to 600D I had set 1.5x my body did not manage to 70D, I read that you can 3x on fast card.

Can you tell me where I can find this setting, I climbed almost everything and found nothing. I have the version 1.1.1 Alpha 6
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: rOOmUSh on June 18, 2015, 11:06:21 PM
Hello all.

I wonder if anyone else have the problem with loading the FULL RES SILENT DNGs into Lightroom 6. It shows that the format is unsupported. LR 5 is fine. Same problem in Photoshop CC ACR 9. I guess it's the same engine. No problem with ACR 8.7.1

Thank you!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: morningfox on June 20, 2015, 04:44:46 AM
Sorry but I'm a total noob with ML.  I installed the b version of the Alpha program and even with Global Drawing OFF I get 2 horizontal parallel bars left after the Focus box clears.  I am looking for a way to get a clean display for a live feed.  Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: lojzik on June 21, 2015, 10:39:40 AM
If i use
mlv_rec -> mlrawviewer 1.3.3 -> dng -> lightroom 6 -> import -> error (preview unavailable)
raw_rec -> mlrawviewer 1.3.3 -> dng -> lightroom 6 -> import -> OK
is it bug or feature?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Frarike on June 21, 2015, 01:03:55 PM
If i use
mlv_rec -> mlrawviewer 1.3.3 -> dng -> lightroom 6 -> import -> error (preview unavailable)
raw_rec -> mlrawviewer 1.3.3 -> dng -> lightroom 6 -> import -> OK
is it bug or feature?

Pretty sure light room doesn't support sound files so thats why mlv won't work.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: lojzik on June 21, 2015, 02:44:59 PM
mlrawviewer 1.3.3 generates wav + many dng files. Problem is with import dng file into lightroom. But DNG profile editor (from adobe too) opens this file.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dmilligan on June 21, 2015, 05:35:49 PM
MLV format has a lot of metadata that plain RAW does not. This metadata is also added to DNGs produced from the MLV file. The extra metadata appears to be causing problems for Lr.

You can try other converters including mlv_dump or MLVFS. If the problem persists please upload a MLV file and/or DNGs produced from the various converters.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: snakec on June 21, 2015, 07:07:17 PM
EXIF disappear when exporting with the plugin magic lantern.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: lojzik on June 22, 2015, 10:15:09 AM
MLV format has a lot of metadata that plain RAW does not. This metadata is also added to DNGs produced from the MLV file. The extra metadata appears to be causing problems for Lr.

You can try other converters including mlv_dump or MLVFS. If the problem persists please upload a MLV file and/or DNGs produced from the various converters.
I try mlv_dump.
mlv_dump and mlvrawviewer generate different outputs. mlv_dump dng has thumbnail readable from lightroom. Both dngs have errors in metadata (exposure time)
generated dng: https://mega.nz/#!xURVgATD!HDu84i1AzCMmOdOzvfsPY0uFYS3d-qd-5vbBuo2kDQ4

edit: mlvfs (on win) generates problem in LR too
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: SuperDosh on June 22, 2015, 11:02:34 PM
Noob-ish questions - How do you know whether your camera is 70D 111a or 111b?

Thanks in advance,
- Joe
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 22, 2015, 11:04:41 PM
Installing the wrong version will tell you to use the other one.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: vitor duarte on June 23, 2015, 01:50:25 PM
I am Portuguese and my English is poor.
ML installed on my 70D but do not spend too much time on the screen and do not have access for example to peaking among many

what will happen ?
thank you
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: vitor duarte on June 23, 2015, 05:03:27 PM
is that the 700D does not give the 70D ? lol
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: SuperDosh on June 23, 2015, 07:58:17 PM
Installing the wrong version will tell you to use the other one.

Thanks Walter!  :D
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: vitor duarte on June 23, 2015, 08:30:34 PM
It is that the peaking does not work
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 23, 2015, 08:44:23 PM
Add your request in portuguese, please.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: vitor duarte on June 23, 2015, 10:22:42 PM
Boa noite.
Instalei o ML na minha 70D mas o peaking não funciona, ou seja, fica inactivo e o ML ao fim de 5 segundos desaparece do ecrã.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: thebandrick on June 23, 2015, 10:32:44 PM
Hello guys , i have recently installed ML on my 70d , but i find that my footage looks really noisy , even in good lighting conditions , there is a lot of alisaing and there is a sort of lag between some frames. Does anyone encounter the same problem ? How can i rasolve this ?

I shoot 1792*762 at 24fps
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 24, 2015, 12:16:50 AM
@thebandrick:

for which Alpha Build are you referring this to?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: thebandrick on June 24, 2015, 02:01:57 PM
@thebandrick:

for which Alpha Build are you referring this to?
Alpha 6 , and on alpha 5 it did was same thing ..
I also have the impression that my footage is a little sped up (i shoot in 24fps , i convert it with raw2mlv then when i import it in after effects it says 30fps ..)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 24, 2015, 02:44:57 PM
Bandrick.

Try this for lower noise
1. ISO 400 max. this is conservative max.
2. fast shutter 1/100  or faster
3. shoot flat (in camera stuff dialed off, sharpness off, contrast off, and desat -2)
4. Clean sensor/lens, use a hood in daylight.
5. Avoid digital zoom.
6. Ensure there is some light somewhere in the shot, shots of minimal light are nosier on aps-c.

Ofcourse you could shoot with the zoom 3X (or 5X in ML), but its nosier by design.
Its a bigger set of tricks to get best out of it.


Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: snakec on June 24, 2015, 02:51:02 PM
EXIF disappear when exporting with the plugin magic lantern.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: thebandrick on June 24, 2015, 02:59:23 PM
Thank you for the advices ! I try this right now and i tell you what :)
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 24, 2015, 07:14:06 PM
If it's exporting in 30 FPS from AE -- sounds like you forgot to set the project/timeline setting to 24 FPS to match the footage and/or check your export/render queue settings.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 25, 2015, 03:01:41 AM
Perhaps one who knows better than me can advise.
But why is ML Zoom 5X, when the actual is 3X.
The framing of what is displayed at 5X does not match the recording (3X).
I thought ML could control the display? 
Walter say it isnt so! There is some menu option I am missing, or that this can be fixed before the next time the planets align.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dmilligan on June 25, 2015, 03:14:00 AM
@lojzik

It appears that ACR simply refuses to load any DNGs that have camera model as "Canon 70D". This is quite strange. If you use exiftool or just a hex editor to change the camera model metadata from "Canon 70D" to say "Canon 60D" it loads just fine. This would be something to complain to Adobe about (for not adhering to their own DNG "standard").
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dmilligan on June 25, 2015, 03:40:16 AM
why is ML Zoom 5X, when the actual is 3X.
There are two main image buffers: the raw buffer which is raw data captured from the sensor, and the YUV buffer which is what is used for display to the LCD screen and HDMI, etc. There is obviously a lot of processing that is done between the raw buffer and the YUV buffer (this processing is controlled by Canon firmware). When you press the zoom button, the Canon firmware changes both the sensor scanning mode, which causes a 3X change in the raw buffer, and some of the YUV processing so that the end result of the YUV processing is a 5X change.

For a long time, we didn't know how to modify the YUV processing to make the images match, so the framing was just off in crop mode. We can "control the display", i.e. we can write to the YUV buffer and know how it works, but what we don't know how to do is control all the image processing hardware that is needed to process raw data into yuv in realtime (we can do it with the CPU, but it's way to slow). This hardware is all controlled by the Canon firmware.

@Greg discovered how to control this with some of the ADTG/ENGIO registers, but to date, no developers have had time (I guess) to implement this for correct framing in raw video crop mode. See: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10111.msg125590#msg125590
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dalifen on June 25, 2015, 09:25:12 AM
Sorry if it already was here, I didn't find it, but I can't load the sound module. It doesn't link it, announces error after boot.
Any recommendation?
Alpha70D111B
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 25, 2015, 09:29:19 AM
I suppose you mean MLV_SND.mo. This module will enable sound recording when MLV_REC.mo is used. So you have to load both.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 25, 2015, 09:58:26 AM
No sound support yet. On a side note: I will be away for about 2 weeks. From time to time I will read through forum but you won't see any updates from me in the next 2 weeks.

Once returned I will continue work.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dalifen on June 25, 2015, 01:18:32 PM
I see, thanks anyway, at least there are no error message whenever I load both MLV_SND.mo and MLV_REC.mo

Any idea for connecting earphones to 70D? Perhaps by using digital AV-out?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: lojzik on June 25, 2015, 01:49:05 PM
what exactly means "No sound support yet "? Because if I enable mlv_snd and mlv_raw, I get mlv with sound.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on June 25, 2015, 04:47:11 PM
it means: no support from me yet cause I never tried myself. Some people reported it as broken / crashing earlier.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: dalifen on June 25, 2015, 06:25:28 PM
Yes that's true. I can enable the modules now, but with no practical functionality e.g. level meters, chanels dedication and so.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: FreyRS on June 25, 2015, 07:41:09 PM
Hallo there ,iam new and i tried ML with my 600D before. There was the Point " Audio remote shot" to trigger when a sound comes up or iam clapping my hands !

Am i stupid or isnt it available 4 the Canon 70D !?!? plz help
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: patrick.m.mckenna on June 27, 2015, 08:04:33 AM
Just got the 70D about two weeks after owning a 40 for the past five years and then the 10D which I bought back in 2003 or so.

Anyway, I am interested in ML mainly for the focus peaking and zebras; however, after successfully installing it and loading the modiules and turning on focus peaking in Display 2 and Display 3, and then setting it so it can run 4 display configuration.

I can't the overlays or the grid or anything that resembles the ML overlay in the user guide to appear on my viewfinder in Live Mode. Tried shooting stills in AV, TV and P mode and nada/nothing. I know some of ML's functionality is working because I adjusted the Kelvin in the WB to make the images warmer and cooler. But no joy with the overlays. I hit info multiple times and have toggle between live mode and viewfinder mode. Restarted and nothing.

Peak focusing is really what I am most interested in because I have a Lomograpjy Petzval 85mm f2,2 that is manual focus and it is a pain to get the focus tact sharp in the stills that I am taking. I also have a Canon 50mm 1.2 that is autofocus and when shot wide open, it is also a chore to get the eyes sharp.  I thought the peak focusing would be helpful for both lenses but I can't get the overlays to appear.

Must've watched 10 videos on ML and the overlays but I am stuck.

Any advice?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 27, 2015, 09:17:52 AM
Perhaps try pressing the info button on your 70D to change the On Screen Display info until ML's OSD shows up on your LCD...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: patrick.m.mckenna on June 27, 2015, 01:36:23 PM
Yes I have tried that a dozen of times When I press info consecutive, it will briefly display DISP 0, DISP 1, DISP 2, DISP 3 in top left corner of the screen and then disappear.  What remains is just a rectangular box.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 27, 2015, 05:23:17 PM
After turning on the modules the first time -- you turned off the camera and back on, right?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 27, 2015, 05:24:57 PM
? Modules for zebras and focus peak?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 27, 2015, 05:36:27 PM
I'm in bed and just waking up... My apologies for the typo and I'll leave this to you then.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 27, 2015, 05:38:29 PM
Nah, take your time and some coffee.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 27, 2015, 05:39:25 PM
@patrick.m.mckenn

Do you have GlobalDraw Turned On ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 27, 2015, 05:57:36 PM
Ha Thanks Walter but No coffee needed here. Good catch @OlRivrRat -- sounds like it could possibly be related to GlobalDraw's settings.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 27, 2015, 06:01:04 PM
Lack of Knowledge here ~ Where does one do these sorts of changes ?

"turning on focus peaking in Display 2 and Display 3, and then setting it so it can run 4 display configuration."

                &

       My 70Db does not do this

"When I press info consecutive, it will briefly display DISP 0, DISP 1, DISP 2, DISP 3 in top left corner of the screen" 

                     Should it?

Never mind, I found it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: rayankh on June 27, 2015, 08:06:51 PM
I have a question - When I go to the menu and go to the audio settings, I only see MLV Sound. Are there other audio settings somewhere? How do I get the meters to show up on LiveView?

https://youtu.be/yo8IoJi1ZvI?t=137  - this guy's menu looks a lot different than mine. Yes it's a different camera, but he has many different audio settings. What am I missing?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: patrick.m.mckenna on June 27, 2015, 08:13:18 PM
I installed all the modules except Arkanoid, which was great on the Mac back in the day but I doubt it's much fun playing on the camera.

I did turn the camera off and on after installing the modules. In fact, I turned the camera off multiple times since this is the first thing my company IT help desk tells me to do every time I call...even when I have forgotten my password. 

I do have Global Draw turned on, and I have also turned on focus peaking, zebras and histogram on all 4 display presets.

I have uninstalled it but I can reinstall it and take screenshots of the Global Draw page and the preset page if that would even help.

If it helps, I am using the Alpha6 A version. I just bought my camera 2 weeks ago in Dallas and the serial number starts with a 2 if that means anything to anybody.

Thanks for your patience and suggestions.

TX
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on June 27, 2015, 08:21:49 PM
I don't know what you mean by "installing modules". Did you mean setting all modules to ON?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 27, 2015, 08:48:24 PM
@ patrick.m.mckenna

Try turning the LV Display Presets on the Perfs page to Off & then report what you see when Toggling through the info screens.

You might also want to give Alpha5 a try as maybe it has something to do with this

" Changelog (noteworthy ones only):
         31st May.: Alpha6
                 Removed all  focus and also fps features (see comments on butbucket for details) "
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 27, 2015, 09:40:46 PM
I've been told to stay with Alpha 5b until further update by @nikfreak.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 27, 2015, 10:13:19 PM
A5b is the one that I am Most Comfortable with for now.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on June 28, 2015, 01:59:10 AM

A5b is the one that I am Most Comfortable with for now.

Same.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: patrick.m.mckenna on June 28, 2015, 03:49:29 AM
Walter. Yes. I turned the modules on.

Can anybody point me to the A5b download please? The only address I have for Magic Lantern for the 70D is the first post in this camera-specific forum. And the ML main page download link points to the forums.

Thanks

Patrick.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Davidl on June 28, 2015, 12:46:33 PM
Did someone have problems with the WLAN ? My smartphone will not connect with the 70D..
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: tuxfoto on June 30, 2015, 09:06:45 AM
Me too ....

PC over FritzBox is ok, Handy or Tab no connection.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: joanmsoriano on June 30, 2015, 04:09:45 PM
hi, i have a 70D (W), last month i installed magiclantern-Nightly.2015Apr23.70D111B to test RAW video, it work fine in 2 sd cards.
i didn´t use the camera until today, when i turn it on the led doesn´t turn on, but the camera is on, all the rear buttons doesn´t work, only the top buttons, like AF, DRIVE, ISO, etc, i can see the top screen, i can change the dial, but i can´t shot nether change to video mode.
i install the last version on another SD card magiclantern-Nightly.2015May31.70D111B and nothing happens, i format one ofthe cards, and nothing, i put by mistake in one card the magiclantern-Nightly.2015May31.70D111A and the led work with a message of ML saying that ml can´t find that version of camera, so the led works.


i´m using sandisk extreme pro class 10 95mbs

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on June 30, 2015, 04:52:29 PM
@JoanMSoriano

Have You tried Removing & Reinstalling the Battery
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: joanmsoriano on June 30, 2015, 05:02:58 PM
yes, i change the baterry, i try with 3 different batteries, i also notice that the sd card light turns on and keeps that way
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: RAMAKANT on June 30, 2015, 07:32:21 PM
Hello guys! Pls excuse me if I am too dumb or too impatient to read! Thanks to the precise instructions on the first page of this forum, installing this May 31 version of ML on my 70D was quick & easy - without any hassles. (Frankly, I have NOT gone through anywhere else in this forum. I am even ignorant whether ML interface is simply identical or different for each of the Canon camera model!) As mentioned here somewhere, all that I did till now is to turn on all modules in the 'modules' menu. Photo-snapping has been quick and easy too. But when I tried to shoot a sample video, it failed to record even though the memory card is quite fast (Lexar 600X). When I turned the camera switch to video mode and pressed the start button, I got indication that the camera is going through a preparation stage and then a green icon told me that the recording did continue. However, after switching off the video-recording & looking for the play-back, I noticed that the video has failed to exist on the memory card. What is that I am missing or doing wrong? Is there a specific location in this forum - where it is possible to read ML instructions step-by-step - as applicable to 70D alone? Thanks in advance! 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on June 30, 2015, 08:23:15 PM
RAMAK

I notice for higher resolutions like 1728 or higher, that when you record a movie, then hit stop. 
You need to wait until the screen returns to normal, I think its finishing the write from the buffer.
This can take 3s or so.  When the screen normalizes, the hit image review arrow, and your movie will be built frame by frame for the
first play back.  If you dont wait for the screen to normalize, I notice the movie may be lost ...

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 01, 2015, 03:14:24 AM
@JoanMSoriano

Remove the Lens & see if it makes any difference.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Surrealtime on July 01, 2015, 05:56:21 AM
@joanmsoriano you may have to reboot your camera. Look it up online.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 01, 2015, 06:22:06 AM
@JoanMSoriano

I recently was asked by a friend to have a look @ her 40D as it had ceased to start up & within a few minutes I discovered that 1 of the Pins

in the Card Slot appeared to be missing but upon closer inspection I found that it was bent over, Flat, @ 90º to where it was supposed to be.

With a great deal of care I was able to straighten it back up to its Original Stance & that 40D is again Alive & Well. So have a careful look down

into the SD Card Slot of your 70D & make sure that nothing looks Out Of Place. You won't see a bunch of pins like in the CF Card Slot on the

40D but there are some Very Fine Wires down in there could get bent by Who Knows What. It's still a Mystery as to how that 40Ds pin got bent.

       ML content ~~ I'll be surprised if this issue turns out to be ML Related.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: xsghost on July 01, 2015, 10:05:20 AM
@JoanMSoriano
       ML content ~~ I'll be surprised if this issue turns out to be ML Related.

Oh! It's ML related alright..
Since installing the 31st of may build, I've had these 2 incidents happen to me:

1. While recording h264 video, i opened the ML menu to disable the extra sharpening of display feature. When I got out of the menu, the black bars above and bellow the video had become translucent (video was still recording). When I stopped recording, and then turned recording back on, the "Recording was stopped automatically" message was displayed and wouldn't go away. Turning the camera off from the switch did not turn the camera off. I had to quickly pull out the battery, and then restarted it (it was during a paid gig). It worked fine after that, but I took great care not to access the ML menu while recording any more.

2. I was recording and I had the "Card full" message pop up. So I turned the camera off, and changed the card to a fresh empty one (that had the same build of ML on it; yes, I'm sure it was the same build, I had installed the same build of ML on all my cards at the same time, like I always do when a new build comes out). Anywho, so I put the fresh card in, and turn on the camera, but the display remains black, buttons do nothing, only the card LED lights up. Start sweating, turn the camera back off and on again, same thing. Camera off, pull out the battery, put battery back in, camera on, same thing. My face started going through all the colors. After repeating the pulling out the battery thing for a few times, it had finally started up like nothing happened. I don't know why...
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 01, 2015, 08:28:27 PM
That's why this is called "Alpha" and also it has been recommended to go back to Alpha5b since Alpha6 is unfortunately still quite buggy according to @nikfreak.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 01, 2015, 09:55:47 PM
@xsghost

Consider Me "somewhat" surprised, as we still need to hear back from JoanMSoriano on the status of that issue. It does

seem quite similar to your 2nd incident though.

Might have been nice of you to report the incidents that you had when they happened so others might have benefitted

from the info.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: laci.szebeni on July 02, 2015, 07:00:58 AM
@xsghost

Consider Me "somewhat" surprised, as we still need to hear back from JoanMSoriano on the status of that issue. It does

seem quite similar to your 2nd incident though.

Might have been nice of you to report the incidents that you had when they happened so others might have benefitted

from the info.
Well I see a lot of vague undocumented posts around here, and I didn't want to be that guy that just posts about a bug without being sure about what caused it exactly.
As long as I can't repeat that situation, I can't really call it a bug or claim I know what I'm talking about.
Having said that, I have had the camera refuse to turn on after switching cards more than once now, displaying just a black unresponsive screen. I can't tell for sure what sequence of steps must be taken to achieve it, or how to avoid it. I know for sure only that it happens both when changing cards while the camera is on, and if you turn the camera off before the change...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 02, 2015, 07:04:11 AM
Did you wait 3-5 seconds after opening door before taking the card out during swap?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: laci.szebeni on July 02, 2015, 07:09:58 AM
Did you wait 3-5 seconds after opening door before taking the card out during swap?
I'm not one to count seconds, but I do always wait for the led activity to stop. That's my queue for knowing when to take out the card.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 02, 2015, 04:34:54 PM
@laci.szebeni

Would you please state which 70D Version & which ML Build you are using.

& maybe some info about your SDCards.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: laci.szebeni on July 02, 2015, 04:37:45 PM
70D version A (it's also in my signature as requested by nikfreak). ML build 31st of May (Nightly 2015 May 31 70D111A).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: iterronez on July 02, 2015, 05:23:19 PM
Hello Forum,

I have a longer post with findings on Alpha6, but I wanted to try Alpha5b first. Where can I download it? I looked and looked, believe me.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 02, 2015, 05:27:46 PM
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15384.msg150410#msg150410
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: iterronez on July 02, 2015, 05:30:29 PM
@Walter Schulz: Thank you! (Sorry I couldn't find it.)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: EOS70D JP on July 03, 2015, 05:50:53 AM
Hello 70D Forum,

Thanks for Magic Lantern!!
Now we learning Magic Lantern and translating into Japanese.
So very hard...

So, we want to try "Alpha 5b" too.
Could anyone tell us where can we download it?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 03, 2015, 06:37:00 AM
@EOS70D JP:

Read two posts up above...

That link will take you there.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 03, 2015, 12:18:29 PM
Filedropper links not working.

Alpha 5 A (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4AUVWbhRrpybzF2MkF6bERjS3M/view?usp=sharing)
Alpha 5 B (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4AUVWbhRrpyWjYxWW9GM2NRLWs)

Please report if not working ...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: joanmsoriano on July 03, 2015, 05:59:53 PM
i try with and without lens, i try 2 sd cards, i change batteries ,
i´m using sandisk extreme pro class 10 95mbs, u try some kingstone sd cards without ml

my camera is  70D (W), i installed magiclantern-Nightly.2015Apr23.70D111B to test RAW video, it work fine in 2 sd cards.
i didn´t use the camera for some weeks, i turn it on and it happen, the led was black, the rear buttons doesn´t work, and the sd light turns on and keeps that way

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: laci.szebeni on July 03, 2015, 06:07:49 PM
I've been following this thread for a few months now and it's becoming quite clear that the build for the B version of the 70D is a lot funkier. It seems that 80% of the problems come from that camera.
Or maybe there are just more B owners..  Who knows?...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 03, 2015, 06:57:12 PM
@ joanmsoriano

What does the " (W) " after  70D mean?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: laci.szebeni on July 03, 2015, 06:58:50 PM
@ joanmsoriano

What does the " (W) " after  70D mean?
I'm assuming he's referring to the WiFi version.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: joanmsoriano on July 03, 2015, 07:49:45 PM
my problem with all what happen and what i try

first of all, i use ML on my t2i for 3 years without a problem, so using it on my 70d was not my first time. i always wait until the SD card light turns off and i shut the camera off to take out or change the memory

I use the Nightly.2015Apr23.70D111B on my sandisk extreme pro class 10 95mbs (2 of them) and test it on my Canon 70D (W) (the wifi model)

I test the raw footage and other visual stuffs i use on my t2i, it work fine

i turn off the camera and didn´t use it for 3 weeks, i think that i have left the baterry on the camera this time

When i take the camera and turn it on, the led was black, and rear buttons didn´t work, the top panel was on and ok, and that buttons and settings work fine, the f on the rear panel was working with a digital lens. i also notice that the sd light was on and never turn off


i have done this so far:

- Change SD card
- Change batteries (i have 1 canon original and 3 non-original)
- left the camera without batteries 24hours
- install latest version of ML , magiclantern-Nightly.2015May31.70D111A, the led turn on with a ML text saying that it wasn´t the model for that ML, so i install magiclantern-Nightly.2015May31.70D111B, and it was back to black led without rear buttons working
 - try a SD card without ML
- now i´m trying toi rebooy my camera, but i read that this model doesn´t have an internal battery that users can reach, so i´m trying with a tip for this that says that if i keep on without batteries the camera some minutes, and then some hours off without battery it might work. if it doesn´t, i will take it to service to reboot
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 03, 2015, 07:58:44 PM
"Internal battery removal" resolving troubles is a myth. It's clock battery.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: laci.szebeni on July 03, 2015, 07:59:30 PM


my problem with all what happen and what i try

first of all, i use ML on my t2i for 3 years without a problem, so using it on my 70d was not my first time. i always wait until the SD card light turns off and i shut the camera off to take out or change the memory

I use the Nightly.2015Apr23.70D111B on my sandisk extreme pro class 10 95mbs (2 of them) and test it on my Canon 70D (W) (the wifi model)

I test the raw footage and other visual stuffs i use on my t2i, it work fine

i turn off the camera and didn´t use it for 3 weeks, i think that i have left the baterry on the camera this time

When i take the camera and turn it on, the led was black, and rear buttons didn´t work, the top panel was on and ok, and that buttons and settings work fine, the f on the rear panel was working with a digital lens. i also notice that the sd light was on and never turn off


i have done this so far:

- Change SD card
- Change batteries (i have 1 canon original and 3 non-original)
- left the camera without batteries 24hours
- install latest version of ML , magiclantern-Nightly.2015May31.70D111A, the led turn on with a ML text saying that it wasn´t the model for that ML, so i install magiclantern-Nightly.2015May31.70D111B, and it was back to black led without rear buttons working
 - try a SD card without ML
- now i´m trying toi rebooy my camera, but i read that this model doesn´t have an internal battery that users can reach, so i´m trying with a tip for this that says that if i keep on without batteries the camera some minutes, and then some hours off without battery it might work. if it doesn´t, i will take it to service to reboot

I don't understand.. How did you try installing ML again? Can you access the Canon menu?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: a1ex on July 03, 2015, 08:03:57 PM
Got it, so bootloader is working, but something's wrong with the main firmware.

Can you send me a copy of ML/LOGS/ROM*.BIN from your card? (hopefully you still have a ML card with these files)

Then, when nikfreak returns, I'll ask him to prepare a ROM dumper from the recovery branch (it's easy, there are some stubs to find).

Since you have a second Canon camera, this test could be also helpful: http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13070
(you will need compiling skills, and it might not work out of the box, so it's best if nikfreak could help here as well)

I can help with the compiling part next week, but I'll need a tester (since we need to try the diagnostic tools on a good camera as well).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: laci.szebeni on July 03, 2015, 08:22:35 PM
my problem with all what happen and what i try

first of all, i use ML on my t2i for 3 years without a problem, so using it on my 70d was not my first time. i always wait until the SD card light turns off and i shut the camera off to take out or change the memory

I use the Nightly.2015Apr23.70D111B on my sandisk extreme pro class 10 95mbs (2 of them) and test it on my Canon 70D (W) (the wifi model)

I test the raw footage and other visual stuffs i use on my t2i, it work fine

i turn off the camera and didn´t use it for 3 weeks, i think that i have left the baterry on the camera this time

When i take the camera and turn it on, the led was black, and rear buttons didn´t work, the top panel was on and ok, and that buttons and settings work fine, the f on the rear panel was working with a digital lens. i also notice that the sd light was on and never turn off


i have done this so far:

- Change SD card
- Change batteries (i have 1 canon original and 3 non-original)
- left the camera without batteries 24hours
- install latest version of ML , magiclantern-Nightly.2015May31.70D111A, the led turn on with a ML text saying that it wasn´t the model for that ML, so i install magiclantern-Nightly.2015May31.70D111B, and it was back to black led without rear buttons working
 - try a SD card without ML
- now i´m trying toi rebooy my camera, but i read that this model doesn´t have an internal battery that users can reach, so i´m trying with a tip for this that says that if i keep on without batteries the camera some minutes, and then some hours off without battery it might work. if it doesn´t, i will take it to service to reboot
Also, did you by any chance use the SD card somewhere else before putting it back in the 70D when it stopped working?

I ask because it reminds me of this situation I had: I took by mistake the SD card from my T3i (with t3i ML on it) and inserted it in my 70D, and it froze up when I turned it on (black screen, non responsive). I think I had to take out the battery to power it down, but it then recovered when I inserted the correct SD card with the 70D ML on it.

So...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on July 03, 2015, 09:10:15 PM
Any folks been experimenting with raw video to minimize rolling shutter in terms of fps & resolution & shutter.
I did some 23.967 fps @ 1728 / 2.39 aspect @ 1/160s testing, around 30mm and
I am finding the rolling shutter very noticeable with hand held shots, rolling shutter is hard to shake (pun intended).

Any success stories out there worth a checkout.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: pierre2fun on July 03, 2015, 11:19:05 PM
Hello A1ex,

I can try helping. B version with Wifi.

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: joanmsoriano on July 04, 2015, 02:50:40 AM

I don't understand.. How did you try installing ML again? Can you access the Canon menu?

i copy the new files to the other sd card

Also, did you by any chance use the SD card somewhere else before putting it back in the 70D when it stopped working?

I ask because it reminds me of this situation I had: I took by mistake the SD card from my T3i (with t3i ML on it) and inserted it in my 70D, and it froze up when I turned it on (black screen, non responsive). I think I had to take out the battery to power it down, but it then recovered when I inserted the correct SD card with the 70D ML on it.

So...

nope, i use that sd cards only with that camera


Got it, so bootloader is working, but something's wrong with the main firmware.

Can you send me a copy of ML/LOGS/ROM*.BIN from your card? (hopefully you still have a ML card with these files)

Then, when nikfreak returns, I'll ask him to prepare a ROM dumper from the recovery branch (it's easy, there are some stubs to find).

Since you have a second Canon camera, this test could be also helpful: http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13070
(you will need compiling skills, and it might not work out of the box, so it's best if nikfreak could help here as well)

I can help with the compiling part next week, but I'll need a tester (since we need to try the diagnostic tools on a good camera as well).

i can send you that roms, i have the ones in the SD card and i also have other 2 in my computer, i think a backup i made the day i download the first ML beta, at this point i can wait and help you diagnose or look at it if it was a ML bug, and then if we can´t recover take it to technical service for reboot or something

i can´t try with the other camera becasue i don´t have it anymore
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: bump on July 04, 2015, 08:28:52 AM
The new links to Alpha5 work fine, Walter.  Thanks.


Loaded Alpha5B on my camera.  So far some minor glitches.  Sorry if some of this is newb mistakes but it's been a few years since I used ML.

First one is after taking a photo the review briefly displays the image and histogram (as expected) then draws a kind of ghost image over the display.  Short video of what it looks like:


The level display freezes.  It worked for maybe a minute then stopped updating.  Randomly it will change but I haven't figured out if anything triggers it.

When shooting with ETTR All or Snap enabled I get RAW ERROR occasionally.  I'm shooting in my office in low light so I assume it's too dark for further adjustments.  But confused about RAW ERROR messages. 

Is it expected that focus-peaking doesn't work in Magic Zoom?  Because it doesn't; not in the Magic Zoom box and it also turns-off in the main image display.  Also, when the lens is set to manual focus I can't figure out how to move the focus/spot meter location; I have to switch the lens back to auto focus, change the focus point, then switch back to manual focus.

The ML menu times out rather quickly at times.  Sometimes after just a couple of seconds.  And the help file is missing, though I assume I can grab the help file from a beta and copy it to the appropriate location to make it work.

I had a random situation where my front and back dial controls were reversed.  I have my front dial set to adjust aperture and back dial to shutter speed and when shooting video they somehow got reversed.  Haven't reproduced it yet, though.

I used the Intervalometer a bit and at one point it shot 3 photos in quick succession before settling in to the desired interval. 

That's it for now.  It's supposed to rain most of the day so I won't get much chance for more testing until Sunday.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: EOS70D JP on July 04, 2015, 08:57:57 PM
Hello 70D forum!!

@ DeafEyeJedi
Thanks for your reply and your advise!!

@Walter Schulz
Thanks for your reply and your download link.
Now,we were able to download "Alpha5a and Alpha5b" from your links!!

Tonight,We try these firmware!!

Thanks Magic Lantern.
Thanks 70D forum.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Mr.Click on July 06, 2015, 01:45:00 PM
Nikfreak, I found out, that the freazing Touch Screen Issue  after erasing a Picture, is caused by the Playmode actions ( in Image Review Settings) I turned it off now and the Issue is gone. I use Alpha 6
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Mallowsm on July 06, 2015, 04:47:05 PM
Is there any news on getting uncompressed out the hdmi?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 06, 2015, 04:51:20 PM
It's up to Canon to make this happen.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on July 06, 2015, 04:58:29 PM
@Mr Click. THX for the tip. I'll be back in 3 days and look after it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: EOS70D JP on July 07, 2015, 07:33:24 AM
Hi,70D forum.
Thanks Walter!!

We tried "Alpha5".
We can installed "Alpha5a".
Alpha5a is work fine too!!
All of Japan models have wifi function.

Thank you Magic Lantern team!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: mrpanda on July 07, 2015, 05:34:34 PM
bonjour,

je viens d'installer ML sur mon 70D
j'ai une carte SDHC 95mb/s en transfert et 90mb/s en écriture
quand je fais mes test en RAW vidéo il me dit Fram Skipping
pourtant je n’enregistre pas en 1920*1080 je suis en 1700*900
avez vous une solution ?

cordialement
hello,

I just installed on my ML 70D
I have an SDHC 95MB / s transfer and 90MB / s write
when I test my RAW video he said Fram Skipping
yet I do not register in 1920 * 1080 I in 1700 * 900
you have a solution?

Best regards

Mr Panda
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 07, 2015, 05:46:24 PM
SD-card interface in 70D is limited to about 40 MByte/s write rate.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: webdev on July 10, 2015, 06:21:29 AM
Hi All

Total noob to ML (I know.. joy) but from what I've seen from youtube videos this is some amazing stuff. You guys are genius! Thank you for sharing!

I am excited to learn more about it, using it and such, but I have some questions.

1) What mode should the selector wheel be on to install?
2) What happens if I need to swap an SD card.. like if I run out of space on the card I used to install ML and put in a card that is only formatted and empty with canon folders. Does the ML need to be on all the cards?
3) I installed alpha6 and have the A version of the camera, but in the first post some things were removed. I tried looking through bucket for the comments, but where?
4) Would the boot/install make any changes to the camera before starting the firmware update? Like when the camera boots up, is anything from the ML files being applied before actually going to the menu and hitting update firmware?
5) What do you all recommend as the best resource to get good starter info for using ML?

Thank you in advance for your input.

Chris
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: laci.szebeni on July 10, 2015, 12:30:34 PM


Hi All

Total noob to ML (I know.. joy) but from what I've seen from youtube videos this is some amazing stuff. You guys are genius! Thank you for sharing!

I am excited to learn more about it, using it and such, but I have some questions.

1) What mode should the selector wheel be on to install?
2) What happens if I need to swap an SD card.. like if I run out of space on the card I used to install ML and put in a card that is only formatted and empty with canon folders. Does the ML need to be on all the cards?
3) I installed alpha6 and have the A version of the camera, but in the first post some things were removed. I tried looking through bucket for the comments, but where?
4) Would the boot/install make any changes to the camera before starting the firmware update? Like when the camera boots up, is anything from the ML files being applied before actually going to the menu and hitting update firmware?
5) What do you all recommend as the best resource to get good starter info for using ML?

Thank you in advance for your input.

Chris

1. Install ML in manual mode.
2. You need to install it separately on all your cards.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: Guitarshredder1 on July 11, 2015, 03:17:35 AM
Is there any chance of developing/implementing white balance controls in the next release?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: xcalibr on July 11, 2015, 05:05:53 PM
I have a 60D which I installed ML on years ago but have been waiting for a stable release for my 70D. I can't wait any longer, I'm ready to install the Alpha because I need audio monitoring very badly but have a question that I did not see answered yet. I purchased the Manfrotto Digital Director for my iPad in hopes that it would allow audio monitoring and while it does have VU meters, it will not play the audio through the iPad. So my question is, after installing ML will the features of the Digital Director all still work? And if they don't, will the uninstall ML procedure work to put the 70D back to the way it was? Thank you!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: TechnoPilot on July 11, 2015, 07:50:21 PM
I have a 60D which I installed ML on years ago but have been waiting for a stable release for my 70D. I can't wait any longer, I'm ready to install the Alpha because I need audio monitoring very badly but have a question that I did not see answered yet. I purchased the Manfrotto Digital Director for my iPad in hopes that it would allow audio monitoring and while it does have VU meters, it will not play the audio through the iPad. So my question is, after installing ML will the features of the Digital Director all still work? And if they don't, will the uninstall ML procedure work to put the 70D back to the way it was? Thank you!
Unfortunately to tell you, the audio monitoring, control and meters are not yet implemented in this Alpha as there is a new audio thread that has yet to be merged into the main ML build and it makes sense not to duplicate work, they will then have to be debugged before inclusion.  I was talking with Netfreak on the matter about a month ago when I was asking what I could do to help push the audio development on this Alpha along as even just the meters was all I found missing from ML for my normal workflow.

If the iPad device connection functions using similar forks into the Canon hardware as DSLRController, you might run into some issues as I believe people have reported conflicts running both the external device connected to USB and ML.

As for removal of ML, it is functioning perfectly well with the firmware install, & wait 60secs to uninstall function.

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: nikfreak on July 11, 2015, 10:33:48 PM
@Mr. Click: I now tried several times myself to replicate your issue but touch works for me after using set+wheel actions in playback mode with additionally deleting a picture afterwards. If or once you read this could you re-check after the next update?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: xcalibr on July 12, 2015, 12:06:06 AM
Bummer, thanks TechnoPilot for the update before I did anything. Guess I'll wait and keep using my 60D till a version is ready with the audio features. Thanks again!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6 31st May)
Post by: TechnoPilot on July 12, 2015, 12:08:34 AM
Bummer, thanks TechnoPilot for the update before I did anything. Guess I'll wait and keep using my 60D till a version is ready with the audio features. Thanks again!
No problem, glad I could help!

Just so you know however, while some have reported issues using DSLRController with ML, I use both personally and haven't yet had issue.

Cheers,
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 13, 2015, 02:00:01 PM
Updated first post. Read changelog.
Notice: I measured a massive dropdown in raw temperature (menu Debug-> internal temp) with today's release. Got ~185 displayed with previous versions and now it's ~167. Anyone can confirm compared + measured to Alpha5/5b???
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 13, 2015, 06:44:06 PM
      @NikFreak

   Just a bit embarrassed Here - I just noticed that with either 70D_111B Alpha6b or 70D_111B Alpha5b running, I have

No Control over ISO in MovieMode/Man.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 13, 2015, 06:55:16 PM
@OlRivrRat:

I am able to set ISO in moviemode and liveview and even via ML menu but I must admit I just tested and can set it exactly once while movie recording after activating arrow key mode and then it seems to block / become unresponsive. Is this what you experience?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: TechnoPilot on July 13, 2015, 07:09:53 PM
Just to comment on my side, I was pretty sure it was working for me and on my 70_111B running Alpha6 I had no issue when not recording, however while recording I have to press and hold the AF mode button to keep the arrow buttons active and I can then change it.

I did notice however that the ISO value displayed often errors and shows an erroneous value (a value from the other direction of the change) when the ISO is change rapidly up or down while recording and remains showing that erroneous value until the smoothing completes or the value is changed again with the arrow keys.  This similar thing happens less frequently while not recording, however the value corrects itself in this case before the smoothing completes, usually in what seems like one second.

I'll move up to Alpha6b later today and see if this changes the behaviour.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 13, 2015, 07:55:31 PM

I did notice however that the ISO value displayed often errors and shows an erroneous value (a value from the other direction of the change) when the ISO is change rapidly up or down while recording and remains showing that erroneous value until the smoothing completes or the value is changed again with the arrow keys.  This similar thing happens less frequently while not recording, however the value corrects itself in this case before the smoothing completes, usually in what seems like one second.

I'll move up to Alpha6b later today and see if this changes the behaviour.

6b shouldn't change that behaviour but thx for the detailed report (either it hasn't been reported that way til now or I didn't see it til now - it's new to me). That means I need to take a look again at arrow keys but anyways I recommend everybody to update as the log files (links on bitbucket) show no "Path incomplete" messages any more with 6b as it was with earlier builds (idk what it so Path messages were referring to - guess something related to AF  ;D). if you have time please do a comparision of raw temperatures as stated above:

...measured a massive dropdown in raw temperature (menu Debug-> internal temp) with today's release. Got ~185 displayed with previous versions and now it's ~167. Anyone can confirm compared + measured to Alpha5/5b???
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: TechnoPilot on July 13, 2015, 08:01:00 PM
6b shouldn't change that behaviour but thx for the detailed report (either it hasn't been reported that way til now or I didn't see it til now - it's new to me). That means I need to take a look again at arrow keys but anyways I recommend everybody to update as the log files (links on bitbucket) show no errors with 6b. if you have time please do a comparision of raw temperatures as stated above:
Yeah, truthfully I didn't notice the issue until now as I have not had to change my exposure often after the start of recording.  The questions queued me to try it out.

Sure thing Nikfreak, I'll compare some extended runtime temps tonight before upgrading and after, does it matter to you if it is extended recording temps or just camera running temps, do you have a preference?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 13, 2015, 08:23:39 PM
I am interested in the internal raw temperatures shown in bottom debug menu (raw value). I measured it like that: turned cam on with 5b release and recorded a 5 min h264 video and checked the value in debug menu. Afterwards immediately installed 6b and turned cam off to cool down. Then did the same 5 min h264 with 6b and the values seemed decreased by a raw value of ~15. Maybe you could do the test with a longer video to be rest assured it was no placebo to me but from what i can tell the area around set / lock buttons and sdcard slot in bottom right corner feels much less heated to me now too...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 13, 2015, 09:09:12 PM
      @NikFreak

   Figuring that it was something in My Settings (PilotError) (as I usually do in these sorts of Situ's) I gave the ML Menu another OnceOver

& noticing that I had Gradual Exposure "On", decided to turn it "Off" to see if that would resolve the issue - It Did.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: TechnoPilot on July 13, 2015, 09:10:21 PM
      @NikFreak

   Figuring that it was something in My Settings (PilotError) (as I usually do in these sorts of Situ's) I gave the ML Menu another OnceOver

& noticing that I had Gradual Exposure "On", decided to turn it "Off" to see if that would resolve the issue - It Did.
Interesting, since I am shooting with it on for those tests, I haven't tried it with it off since it was working.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 13, 2015, 09:42:17 PM
@OlRivrRat: nevermind. Without your report I wouldn't have tried to replicate and found the small bug with arrow key mode...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: camslide on July 13, 2015, 09:48:00 PM
While playing around with the new release my raw temp is around 186. I'm on firmware rev B.
Tried to use Silent Picture but only getting weird results:
http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4047/5imgr3qd_jpg.htm
http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4047/c9726r4b_jpg.htm
Furthermore the power indicator is showing wrong numbers. My shoulder display shows half power but ML overlay only showing 0% power. Maybe because I'm using a 3rd party battery grip?!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 13, 2015, 09:50:45 PM
      @NikFreak

        Temp Test

      70D_111B Alpha5b

      Started @       163º

      >5:45Min H264      188º

   Let it Cool for @Least 15Min with SD & Batt Out & Doors Open

      70D_111B Alpha6b

      Started @      163º

      >5:45Min H264      193º

        Guess I really shouldn't put the "º" after the numbers since the really aren't degrees.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 13, 2015, 09:59:55 PM
These are not °celsius / fahrenheit. Just raw values but thx for testing. Looks like a placebo on my side  :o. No need to test again

While playing around with the new release my raw temp is around 186. I'm on firmware rev B.
Tried to use Silent Picture but only getting weird results:
http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4047/5imgr3qd_jpg.htm
http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4047/c9726r4b_jpg.htm
Furthermore the power indicator is showing wrong numbers. My shoulder display shows half power but ML overlay only showing 0% power. Maybe because I'm using a 3rd party battery grip?!

FRSP is working nice over here. No problems saving as DNG / MLV. Can't reproduce your issue atm. Anyone else having this on A or B rev?
Grip: use w/o to see if it works. I guess it would also happen with original grip
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: TechnoPilot on July 13, 2015, 10:03:04 PM
These are not °celsius / fahrenheit. Just raw values but thx for testing. Looks like a placebo on my side  :o

FRSP is working nice over here. No problems saving as DNG / MLV. Can't reproduce your issue atm.
Grip: use w/o to see if it works. I guess it would also happen with original grip
I'll give it a test when I get home as well for a richer dataset of cameras, though I'm also revB.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 13, 2015, 10:24:21 PM
      @NikFreak

   Figuring that it was something in My Settings (PilotError) (as I usually do in these sorts of Situ's) I gave the ML Menu another OnceOver

& noticing that I had Gradual Exposure "On", decided to turn it"Off" to see if that would resolve the issue - It Did.

   More on this - or - Moron this - Whichever you think fits -

 Gradual Exposure is not a Prob' in & of itself. What was exacerbating the Situ' was that I had it set to 1EV/512Frames so it wasn't showing any results

on the Display. With patients the Display "Makes the change".
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: camslide on July 13, 2015, 10:36:27 PM
These are not °celsius / fahrenheit. Just raw values but thx for testing. Looks like a placebo on my side  :o

FRSP is working nice over here. No problems saving as DNG / MLV. Can't reproduce your issue atm. Anyone else having this on A or B rev?
Grip: use w/o to see if it works. I guess it would also happen with original grip

Tested w/o battery grip and correct values are displayed. One of both batteries was empty.
Seems like the temperature I reported was only for the first 15 minutes. Now I'm between 210-213.
Do you need further data for Silent Picture?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 13, 2015, 10:45:25 PM
@ALL: Updated 1st post changelog:
Please delete ML directory before using 6b so we can be rest assured there are no leftovers(config files) from previous versions

@camslide: Got an idea regarding your issue. But it maybe would only apply if you had fps override active. Just to be sure: can you delete Ml directory and try 6b from scratch and then try to replicate your issue? If it still happens can you note down your steps so we can replicate?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: camslide on July 13, 2015, 11:28:41 PM
@nikfreak:
Didn't have fps override enabled but deleted ML directory and started from scratch. Same results. When trying to open the picture with PS it isn't recognized. Maybe I'm the error?! Do I have to convert the picture?
When reviewing the files by using the file manager pictures look the same as on my computer.
Here are my steps:
-I activated all modules except arkanoid ->reboot
-went to Shoot tab
-scroll down to Silent Picture ->press Q
-set mode to Simple and File Format to DNG
-start live view
-either push Shutter button half way or * button (both works for me)
-push shutter button again to get back to live view
-shut down camera
-insert SD Card to computer and import pictures using Lightroom
-when I try to develop the file in LR I get an error message "file either not supported or damaged"
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 14, 2015, 06:38:01 AM
-I activated all modules except arkanoid ->reboot
-set mode to Simple and File Format to DNG

... means you got dualiso enabled, too, right? Which tools do you use for conversion?
Let's start simple. Disable all modules except silent.mo and then try with fullres mode, too (not simple)! Result?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: camslide on July 14, 2015, 09:02:57 AM
... means you got dualiso enabled, too, right? Which tools do you use for conversion?
Let's start simple. Disable all modules except silent.mo and then try with fullres mode, too (not simple)! Result?
I didn't use any conversion tools. Thought, dng should work right out of camera. What tools do I need to use?
I disabled all modules except silent.mo, took some test shot with full-res.

EDIT:I just tested in on my other computer with LR 5.7 and it works great(6.1 on the other one). Can anybody explain why LR 6.1 doesn't work with these dng files?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: TechnoPilot on July 14, 2015, 09:53:11 AM
@NikFreak

Okay so I took the time to run through some temperature testing on my 70D.111B.

Alpha 6
Idle: 184
5:00min: 194
5:45min: 197
10:00min: 202
15:00min: 206

Alpha 6b
Idle: 192
5:00min: 208
5:45min: 211
10:00min: 211
15:00min: 213

Overall I found it ran hotter than Alpha 6, this was with the same settings (manually setup).

One thing I did find different is that with the old Alpha 6 build, if I hit the ISO button while recording video, nothing happened, now in 6b it highlights the ISO value and the control wheel now changes the value and it does not error, however using the AF Mode button while recording does during rapid changes.

If there is anything else I can do to help, let me know.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: lojzik on July 14, 2015, 10:45:02 AM
Quote
Hint: There's also a Burn-in test called "Quick test (around 15 min)" in debug menu which you can run!!!
What should be result of Quick test?
Last message was :) and camera is not in initial state (different WB, bulb in AV)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 14, 2015, 11:43:37 AM
There's no real result. Cam is just doing stuff itself. Kind of a self test- I just want to hear if the test finished successfully or you got problems (ofc the test will change lots of values / settings and you will have to start from scratch). As you seen the hint for the test: How about some more help regarding a working feature list (see reminder on 1st page)?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: lojzik on July 14, 2015, 05:27:51 PM
some tests
shot feastures
- advaced bracket
 - default params (auto and constant frames) - ok
 - default + iso shifting (auto frames) - ok
 - default + DOF + constant frames - ok
 - default + flash + (auto/constant) frames - ok
- intervalometer
 - interval 2s -> real interval for 5 pictures: 3, 1, 3, 1
 - trigger - all ok
 
 
image review
  - play mode
  exposure adjust - ok
  timelapse play - ok both directions
  compare - ok
  trigger key - all ok
  - image review - ok
  - quick zoom
    single press -> 100% - ok
    fast - ok
    full zoom on AF - error (zoom on center)
    f zoom on last pos - ok
   
Auto ETTR
 - in Av sometimes only changes ISO and time with constant exposure (400, 50 ) -> (100, 13), or (400, 50) -> (12800, ?)
 trigger mode
   - set - ok
   - halfS dbl - mostly not triggered
   - auto snap - sometimes takes more pictures (3 pictures with different exposure or 4 pictures with identical exposure)
   
 

edit 14.7. 20:29
Expo lock
  - Off/Tv,ISO/Tv,Av - ok
  - off/ISO,Tv/Tv,Av - ok
  - off/Tv,ISO/Av,Tv - ok
  - iso,Av/Tv,ISO/Av,Tv - ok
  - iso,Av/off/Av,Tv - ok

Dual ISO
  - 200/800 - ok
  - 200/+2EV - ok
  - alternate frames - ok
  - custom file prefix - ok
  - I have some problem with conversion to dng (link to correct cr2hdr, cr2hdr20bit?)

Expo presets
  - Press Info - OK
  - Press Set - Error (canon action, but if i use set for ettr, it works)
  - white balance only in K mode
 
Overlay (all in photo mode)
  - zebras
     under, over - ok
     color space - imo all ok

focus peak
  - greyscale - ok
  - other parameters - it does something, but I can't see exactly difference in result

edit 14.7. 20:38
arcanoid
  - problems with background - after camera start some noise, in other cases last image (LV, from play mode)


edit 15.7. 19:55
crop marks
 - show in photo mode - ok
 - show in play mode - photo topleft+metadata -> cropmark on whole display
 
ghost image
 - play with photo topleft+metadata -> overlay photo only on topleft in LV
 
spotmetter
 - spotmeter unit - imo ok (but i can't verify right values)
 - spot position - ok
 
LV with ML overlay
 - randomly hide focus box
 
false color
- original image on spotmeter position
- banding detection - BW noisy image in LV (I don't know what is right result)
- green screen - only BW image without something green (I don't know what is right result)

waveform
- all modes do something, I can't verify result

vektorscope
- ok

edit 15.7. 20:22
histogram
- all choises does what I expect (I can't exactly verify displayed histogram)

level indicator
- freezes after I left magiclantern overlay LV page

DOF settings
- ok,  small difference between displayed and real distance (distances to 1 meter)

edit 16.7. 10:25
DotTune AFMA
Scan type - auto
scan passes - 2 and 10, probably ok (display is off during scan (bug or feature?))
AFMA mode - wide and tele on zoom, prime on prime - results looks ok
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 14, 2015, 07:09:34 PM
@lojzik: keep up testing and providing results like that. This is exactly how it is expected and will improve the chance of being merged into unified branch  ;D
@others: may I ask anothe rone of you willing to provide same kind of report as lojzik does (just to raise the chance we don't miss a crucial bug and also verify lojzik's results)

More info on what to do on 1st page (reminder-link / changelog).
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 14, 2015, 09:29:01 PM
@lojzik: regarding dualiso please follow Walter's advice if you have Lightroom http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11056.msg151160#msg151160. I provided and used own cr2hdr (https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9Mu66yg5QzRVWF4dWYxMkQyUUE&usp=sharing) in past but removed it from 1st post after people confirmed it working with the LR plugin.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 15, 2015, 06:22:08 AM
@loljzik:

Would you mind me asking which Alpha build did you use for the test that you just did?


@nikfreak:

Welcome back and hope your trip went well.

Just downloaded 6b -- will test thoroughly and report back asap.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: lojzik on July 15, 2015, 07:20:08 AM
@DeafEyeJedi: Alpha6b (magiclantern-Nightly.2015Jul13.70D111B.zip)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: muc2810 on July 15, 2015, 03:44:10 PM
Sorry for offtopic:

Does anybody know if 70D is able to read/write 256GB Cards?

Thanks
Stefan
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: SimonEngel on July 15, 2015, 04:54:06 PM
To all of you who have the same issue with opening the "fullressilentpicture" DNG files. I found a way to make it work. At least it is a temporary solution.
You have to change the "Unique Camera Model" in the metadata of the DNG file to "Canon EOS 60D".

Here is how you can do it:
1. Get exiftool from here: http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/
2. Open a command prompt (like CMD in Windows)
3. Navigate to the folder where your DNG files are located
4. Run the command: exiftool -UniqueCameraModel="Canon EOS 60D" *.DNG
5. DONE: you can now open the DNG files in CameraRAW or Lightroom again

I hope Adobe will fix it soon!

Thanks
Simon
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on July 16, 2015, 06:11:45 PM
It would be nice if work-arounds became sticky posts in the thread.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 17, 2015, 09:05:38 AM
Finally some test feedbacks:

Shot features
 - advaced bracket:
 - default params (auto and constant frames) - ok
 - default + iso shifting (auto frames) - ok
 - default + DOF + constant frames - ok
 - default + flash + (auto/constant) frames - ok
 - intervalometer:
 - interval 2s -> real interval for 5 pictures: 3, 1, 3, 1 (confirmed this works)
 - trigger - all seems ok
 
 
Image review
  - play mode exposure adjust - ok
  - timelapse play - ok both directions (confirmed)
  - trigger key - all ok
  - image review - ok
  - quick zoom single press -> 100% - ok (but sometimes it quick zoom button would become unresponsive and battery reboot to fix)
  - fast - ok
  - full zoom on AF - error (zoom on center) <--- although it seems to be working ok with 10-18 STM lens so not sure about others?
  - f zoom on last pos - ok
   
Auto ETTR
   - in Av sometimes only changes ISO and time with constant exposure (400, 50 ) -> (100, 13), or (400, 50) -> (12800, ?) trigger mode <--- (confirmed but still not sure why and will investigate some more)
   - set - ok
   - halfS dbl - mostly not triggered (confirmed it randomly works but then it would become unresponsive and battery reboot would fix)
   - auto snap - sometimes takes more pictures (3 pictures with different exposure or 4 pictures with identical exposure) <--- I seem to get all identical exposure so not sure what I need to do to duplicate inconsistence?
   
 
Expo lock
  - Off/Tv,ISO/Tv,Av - ok
  - off/ISO,Tv/Tv,Av - ok
  - off/Tv,ISO/Av,Tv - ok
  - iso,Av/Tv,ISO/Av,Tv - ok
  - iso,Av/off/Av,Tv - ok

Dual ISO
  - 100/800, 100/1600 - ok
  - alternate frames - ok
  - custom file prefix - ok
  - Need to use latest cr2hdr binary to work with 70D files.
  - Movie Dual-ISO for both RAW/MLV still broken.

Expo presets
  - Press Info - OK
  - Press Set - Error (canon action, but if i use set for ettr, it works but don't use often since I rather use by eye)
  - white balance only in K mode works ok
 
Overlay (all in photo mode)
  - Zebras
     under, over - ok
     color space - ok

Focus peak
  - greyscale - ok (although I don't use it much)

Crop marks
 - show in photo mode - ok
 - show in play mode - photo topleft+metadata -> cropmark on whole display (confirmed)
 
Ghost image
 - play with photo topleft+metadata -> overlay photo only on topleft in LV
 
Spotmetter
 - spotmeter unit - imo ok (but i can't verify right values -- confirmed not working)
 - spot position - ok
 
LV with ML overlay
 - randomly hide focus box ( I can confirm this but it may be related to the 3-4 sec limit? )
 
False color
- original image on spotmeter position
- banding detection - BW noisy image in LV (confirmed)
- green screen - only BW image without something green (confirmed but unsure)

Waveform
- all modes do work but sometimes flicker (like as if CPU was running too high?)

Vector scope
- ok


Histogram
- works well for the most part. (sometimes it would freeze and become unresponsive reboot battery helps)

Level indicator
- freezes after I left magiclantern overlay LV page (confirmed it freezes up sometimes but I don't use this)

DOF settings
- ok (wish I could see it in Feet as oppose to Meters -- maybe Im forgetting to change something but don't use this much either)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: X-STATE on July 17, 2015, 09:26:22 AM
@DeafEyeJedi
What about hot pixels?
In your opinion, which version works better? Alpha6b or Alpha5b?
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 17, 2015, 09:48:21 AM
Great question @X-STATE, however, am still investigating on that and will post Video with MLV comparisons soon.

Expecting to see dancing colors @ ISO 1600 or 2000 & up for RAW/MLV recordings.

So far it seems that 6b is slightly more stable than previous build. Good progress @nikfreak!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: X-STATE on July 17, 2015, 08:27:01 PM
well...
Alpha6b not suitable for shooting RAW video
a lot of hot pixels across the frame on any of ISO 100 to 1600
Immersed pixels strange shape of a cross https://yadi.sk/i/YmnEW8f-hvvr6
I went back to Alpha5b
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on July 18, 2015, 05:31:02 PM
My initial investigation shows its not good for hot pixels for video. 
I was getting 20 or so at ISO 100, 1600p @ 2.39 (in about 30s).
I expect long exposure photography to also have the same issue.
For raw video shooting, I would suggest 5b. 

I was wanting to check out more before I reported back,
but Ive been taking a course so I haven't had as much time
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 18, 2015, 07:50:19 PM
@Everyone --

Today's finally the day I'm going to do a major test thoroughly aiming to determine what's causing the hot pixels that many of you are reporting.

Though I admit I have a few questions...

- Is this due to long recording times on certain ISO's (100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, etc) or does it not matter how many seconds is being recorded?

- Does it matter which resolution you guys want to record in terms of aspect ratio?

I'm going to put together a quick sample footage as soon as I hear back from you guys in this particular matter.

Will be doing the same for not only 6B but as well as previous builds just to be sure.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 18, 2015, 10:26:24 PM

Will be doing the same for not only 6B but as well as previous builds just to be sure.

Thoughts?

sounds good to me. We have two alternatives: using another write channel if your tests indicate (like X-STATE's) there's a difference compared to 5b.
5b hasn't edmac_raw slurping enabled. But atm I would like to keep it enabled (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15233.msg148195#msg148195) but as a last resort I would ofc disable it again if there's no other way to get rid off the reported hot pixels. But first let's confirm it again by your test. I guess comparing 5b and 6b should suffice
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: hashwood on July 18, 2015, 11:09:49 PM
can someone please help me?
does anyone have the original firmware for d70, I think mine got corrupted and I need to overwrite.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 18, 2015, 11:17:23 PM
Please describe error.
Remove battery, remove card, insert battery and startup without card. If cam starts up without error (well, obvious one: No card found) you most likely have a corrupted card. If so: Format card in cardreader, format in cam and install ML once again.
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 19, 2015, 08:46:51 AM
Alright here's what I've got so far...

First here are the settings I used within ML:  Shot in 23.97 fps (sometimes it changes to 23.98 randomly) 1/48th in 1728 x 972 for Take 1 & 1824x764 for Take 2 @ ISO 100-3200 (f4.5 - f18 depending on scene) w GD on during recording. Also set card to exFAT and card warm-up (256mb).

Post workflow as follows:  MLVFS > AE (Cinelog-C Rec_709 Wide DR v.2) > FCPX

5b Take 1 (warning! I pushed the Exposure up by +1.00 via ACR for each clip on this one):
https://vimeo.com/133876272

6b Take 1:
https://vimeo.com/133876273

5b Take 2:
https://vimeo.com/133876274

6b Take 2:
https://vimeo.com/133876275

Seems to confirmed with @X-STATE's comments regarding HP being more prone with 6b versus 5b.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on July 19, 2015, 09:26:45 PM
A few more 6B tests video centric

General video (H264 & RAW)
- variable fps - not working
- Manual mode: Auto Exposure - ISO working and Auto Exposure Range, be careful to set EC parameters to cover the range.
- variable bit rate not available
- dual iso video _not working
- hdr video (not tested)
- focus peaks _ yes
- zebras - over/under _yes.
- rgb histogram _ looked good.

Raw Video
Tried ISO 100 1600p @ 2.39, 23.97fps - within 10sec too many hot pixels (20+)
Same result at 1728p @ 2.39.
At this rate I did not even bother with the higher 3X crop mode or shadow noise tests.

In looking a Defeye's test shot's I would suggest EV=0, and ISO=800+, as a number of those shots are underexposed,
which puts less light on sensor hence not stressing as much.

Really interesting is that when I played back 5b recorded ML raw video, on the 6b, I would see hot pixels???  Regardless of which view I choice.
Yet when I played using 5B on playback they weren't there???  This made me think its the player or reading of the raw file that's a potential problem???. 
** Others with hp in 6b please confirm if your 5b raw videos have more hp on 6b playback **
No hot pixels on record or playback for H264. 


ML grey scale view still is unacceptably slow / unusable.  The others are OK.

Some progress was made the recording and playback were smoother and faster with 6b than 5b.
Only anecdotingly it looked like the recorded panning was smoother (need to do much more testing to be accurate
but it sure looked smoother in camera playback).


 



Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: sergey on July 20, 2015, 11:08:17 AM
File     .DNG (size 35 MB)  received in mode    -Intervalometer-  Silent Picture - maximum resolution ---    does not open (Adobe DNG Converter 9.1 , LR 6.1 ).
Faststone display only preview 128 x 84  = 0,01 MP
It should be possible  converting  ?  than?
 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 20, 2015, 08:23:29 PM
Thx to DeafEyeJedi, X-STATE and ShootMeAlready for their video related test. I would like you to test more. Please follow the link below. You will see 2 folders each containing a test build for 70D.111A and 70D.111B. Now read carefully:


If you have time please do some measurable test (only look for hot pixels, nothing more) and tell me which of the zip in the folder works best for you. According to your upcoming report I will push the source-code of your recommended build to bitbucket and it will be part of the next release. Thx for participating:

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9Mu66yg5QzRfkxkYXgtSkVoaVlDazZ4TmswV1d1eU1GLW9zQldWSk1FdVR0XzkyV3NsQ2M&usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9Mu66yg5QzRfkxkYXgtSkVoaVlDazZ4TmswV1d1eU1GLW9zQldWSk1FdVR0XzkyV3NsQ2M&usp=sharing)

Hope to get 2 equal resulting feedbacks (one would probably be less to convince me (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg151366#msg151366))
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 20, 2015, 08:32:58 PM
Thanks for the PM @nikfreak!

Today I am off work and would be glad to jump on board with this measurable test of yours for HP.

Downloaded both 70D_EDMAC_33 & 70D_NO_SLURP files for 111.B and will report back.

*agreed*
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: satriani on July 20, 2015, 09:17:07 PM
70D_EDMAC_33
(http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/70dedmac33b845091dwu.png)


70D_NO_SLURP
(http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/70dnoslurpgpdm2z70rb.png)

No comment ;)

EDIT: Link from Dropbox is not a good idea  ::)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: pontius on July 20, 2015, 09:28:05 PM
Just tested (with ISO 200) and the results are:
NO_SLURP (http://s2.postimg.org/i6l1ki2zt/70_D_NO_SLURP.png)
EDMAC_33 (http://s18.postimg.org/xxwux0oe1/70_D_EDMAC_33.png)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 21, 2015, 12:16:26 AM
Here are the test results per your request.

Shot in 23.97fps 1824 x 764 (2.39) w 10-18mm ISO 100-3200 @ 12mm closed down to f25 (w exFAT recording & card warm-up enabled).

Workflow as follows: MLVFS > AE (no grade) > FCPX

70D_EDMAC_33:
https://vimeo.com/134037386

70D_NO_SLURP:
https://vimeo.com/134037385

Screenshots from EDMAC_33 DNG files via ACR:
ISO 100 - (https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3759/19683281099_94f27c3e33_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vZkXHv)
ISO 200 - (https://farm1.staticflickr.com/396/19681892860_fbd4a96a8d_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vZdR3m)
ISO 400 - (https://farm1.staticflickr.com/413/19874868081_fe735388c1_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/whgTRk)
ISO 800 - (https://farm1.staticflickr.com/259/19248985993_b52b2626d3_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vjY5UR)
ISO 1000 - (https://farm1.staticflickr.com/289/19681879258_800ef7888a_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vZdLZQ)
ISO 1250 - (https://farm1.staticflickr.com/486/19681894780_f8b7e3dbdf_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vZdRBs)
ISO 2000 - (https://farm1.staticflickr.com/461/19247233804_8990d2f941_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vjP73G)
ISO 3200 - (https://farm1.staticflickr.com/294/19843690686_38585f846a_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wew6U3)

EDMAC_33 obviously has HP whereas NO_SLURP doesn't seem to have any.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 21, 2015, 12:58:28 AM
ok can you please check again "Exposure presets / Press SET". Seems to work for me. I can toggle via INFO and SET button.Maybe I understood it wrong.
I also re-checked dualiso for movie mode. CMOS registers are ok, too. Nothing wrong in code and adtg module confirms it, too. Could it be workflow related? I never tried out on my own though - just checked it thrice in code. Additionally found a wrong address for 70D.111A regarding quickzoom in play mode and trying to re-produce the other reported bugs by you (yellow / remarkings). I can confirm broken "Full Zoom on AFPoint". You can follow it here:

https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/pull-request/1/70d-merge-finalize/diff#comment-None

Some of the reported bugs are hard to read and understand but I am keeping m best on trying to reproduce
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 21, 2015, 01:06:04 AM
Sure, will do. I often ask myself if I make sense in understanding what I'm trying to troubleshoot or reproduce & encounter because I don't seem to understand myself at times.

Though I'll keep trying my best, as always.

Before I go ahead and do that -- do I just use NO_SLURP build or use the latest 5b/6b?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 21, 2015, 01:21:52 AM
you use the NO_SLURP build please  8)
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 21, 2015, 01:28:50 AM
https://vimeo.com/134043093
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on July 21, 2015, 06:21:57 AM
Played around quite a bit with auto exposure, and got it to keep the set ISO range.  So Manual Mode, AUTO ISO being limited by a range works. 
Its tricky, as the 5s exit from ML bug, really makes it hard to edit the many curve parameters.
I am by no means an expert on this ML feature, and would love a clear tutorial on each parameter.

Here's the ML thread I found most helpful.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7208.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: lojzik on July 21, 2015, 07:51:17 AM
ok can you please check again "Exposure presets / Press SET". Seems to work for me. I can toggle via INFO and SET button.Maybe I understood it wrong.
I found what is problem. Exposure presets /Press SET works only If I disable  Canon settings for this button (C.Fn III -> Custom controls). But Auto ETTR /Press SET overrides this Canon settings. I don't know what is feature and what is bug, but it's inconsistent.
C.Fn III SET:OffC.Fn III SET: flash...
Exposure presetsSET -> change presetSET -> flash...
AETTRSET -> AETTRSET -> AETTR(edit: precisely, shows flash exposure compensation, but immediately starts LV with AETTR)


Some of the reported bugs are hard to read and understand but I am keeping m best on trying to reproduce
What bugs from me are hard to read and understand? (sorry, I don't speak English, but I can try to rewrite it)
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Nonac on July 21, 2015, 11:38:48 PM
Intervalometer problem [111B] Alpha 6B Version

I set the camera to take pictures per 15 seconds but the camera took instantly (picture after picture) (in long exposure mode 15'')
tried with 20 seconds = same result
tried with 30 seconds = ok

Zoom Problem

When i press the zoom button it zooms to the maximum .



Thats all for me :)
Keep doing your lovely work!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Canniballissimo on July 22, 2015, 06:24:19 AM
Remove SD-card and format it in your PC.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: TechnoPilot on July 22, 2015, 06:29:54 AM
Remove SD-card and format it in your PC.
Hi hate to say, but that is probably not the best option as it would leave the boot flag intact on his 70D.

If you are just trying to roll back simply delete all the ML files from the SD card and replace them with the version you are wanting to load.  Just remember to ensure it is the correct A or B build.

If you are wanting to uninstall ML then simply go to the update firmware option in the Canon menu and wait for the timer on ML to run out (60 seconds).  If that is not working on the newest build then try rolling back first as I know Alpha5b worked for this.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: KsCanon on July 22, 2015, 06:35:54 AM
I made the post bout not being able to remove ML,
It was a lame brain moment on my part. I didn't have my camera in Manual. I figured it out. Tried to delete my post before anyone replied.

Thank you for your help
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: sergey on July 22, 2015, 01:01:21 PM
Help!
File.DNG (size 35.1 MB , 20 MPix)  received in ML should open in  LR 6.1 or PS 2015 CC (Windows) ?
Or it is necessary to convert than ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Frank7D on July 22, 2015, 05:18:32 PM
sergey,

Are your DNGs not opening in those programs?
Title: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 22, 2015, 07:04:49 PM
@sergey:

Which converters did you use that spitted out DNG's that wouldn't open?

Sounds Iike you didn't replace the cr2hdr binary to the latest to work with 70D files.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 22, 2015, 09:35:55 PM
https://vimeo.com/134043093

Got same results with dualiso in moviemode like seen in your video. I rechecked again but the cmos registers are ok and I have no clue atm what is causing the mangled lcd colors.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: mrpanda on July 22, 2015, 10:57:24 PM
Hello,
I do not know if this is the right place for this question but my English is not very good and I know that this subject on the 70D on this forum.
I wanted to know Max resolution that could save the 70D in RAW and the most aproprier SD card for this use (speed Writing )
RAW because I see the video on YT 70d and wanted to know the resolution used when recording
thanking you

Best regards

Bonjour,
je sais pas si c'est le bon endroit pour cette question mais mon anglais n'est pas tres bon et je connais que ce sujet sur le 70D sur ce forum.
je voulais savoir la resolution Max que pouvais enregistrer le 70D en RAW et la carte SD la plus aproprier pour cette utilisation (vitesse d'ecriture)
car je vois des video RAW du 70d sur YT et je voulais savoir la résolution utiliser lors de l'enregistrement
en vous remerciant

cordialement
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: JonnyG70D on July 23, 2015, 03:10:50 AM
I just successfully installed ML 111A on my 70D.  One of the major reasons I was interested in ML was to shoot raw video.

Unfortunately I don't have any cards that read the higher speed.

I am buying some tomorrow, but I wasn't sure the best way to start using them.  Should I clone the root files onto the new card?

Should I do a fresh install of ML when I buy the new cards?

Should I un-install ML and re-install it?

I am brand new at this and just want to make sure I do it the right way the first time.

Thanks,

Jon
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Via47126 on July 23, 2015, 05:53:29 AM
Just downloaded ML on my 70D and the settings in ML only last a couple seconds before it switches back to live view. Anyway of fixing this? Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 23, 2015, 06:23:54 AM
First page, first post -> What's not working
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: chmteacher on July 23, 2015, 07:34:03 AM
Crash:

ASSERT: err == SUCCESS
at ./MainCtrl/MainCtrl.c:127, task ?
lv:0 mode:0


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2015May31.70D111A
Mercurial changeset   : 8a4bc95af250+ (70D-merge) tip
Built on 2015-05-31 07:23:14 UTC by [email protected]
Free Memory  : 207K + 1594K
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 23, 2015, 07:42:37 AM
@chmteacher:

Use the NO_SLURP release from here and try to reproduce the crash:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9Mu66yg5QzRfkxkYXgtSkVoaVlDazZ4TmswV1d1eU1GLW9zQldWSk1FdVR0XzkyV3NsQ2M&usp=sharing
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: sergey on July 23, 2015, 08:49:04 AM
In  The  File.DNG  ( received in mode     Silent Picture - maximum resolution )  have over exposure ( very light). 
Not work sunny day  --- (iso100,aperture 2.8 , time  1/100) or  (iso100,aperture 2.8 , time 1/2000)    --  snapshots  identical--very light.
as it should be ?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: camslide on July 23, 2015, 08:59:46 AM
In  The  File.DNG  ( received in mode     Silent Picture - maximum resolution )  have over exposure ( very light). 
Not work sunny day  --- (iso100,aperture 2.8 , time  1/100) or  (iso100,aperture 2.8 , time 1/2000)    --  snapshots  identical--very light
Max Shutter Speed is around 1/15. For more information read here:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12523.0
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: sergey on July 23, 2015, 09:22:17 AM
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Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: can-on on July 23, 2015, 11:26:14 AM
Dear nikfreak, thank ML job.

70D 111A installed, much of the problem is sometimes interrupted freeze the motion detection machine
70 indicates the error, take out battery to place it back again after some time.
Unfortunately, it is not stable
I think there is a lot of work with him, and if time permits would be needed "audio remote"
function would be necessary.
You could then be integrated audio remote ??

thank you
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: mrpanda on July 23, 2015, 11:32:21 AM
Hello,

nobody knows the answer to my question ?

because I can not find anything on the internet
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: camslide on July 23, 2015, 02:54:03 PM
Hello,

nobody knows the answer to my question ?

because I can not find anything on the internet
Max resolution is 1824x1026. But I can only record for about 6s as the card slot only has a max write speed of 40MB/s and calculated write speed is 74.9MB/s.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on July 23, 2015, 05:07:09 PM
Camslide, MrPanda

If you want 1080p FHD then I suggest H264, its quite usable with ISO max of 1600 the graininess is under control.  This is also your most ISO friendly for low light shooting.  Once variable bit rate is working fine detail will be more awesome, and once Dual ISO  in video mode is working you will be able to shoot HDR.

If you want to shoot raw, here's some resolutions/recommended use. 
Use an aspect ratio to extend your clip times.  I suggest 2.39 or 2.35 (this is used to master to 2.39).
Use 24fps to extend your clip times, and if you dont like motion blur and want sharpness use a faster shutter (I like to use 1/160s).
Hot pixels (HP) can be a problem as raw clip time extends, check your HP against ISO it varies, but ISO max. of 400 should be clean.
Shadow noise can be a problem in rather low light raw, but 400 ISO max should be clean.  Higher ISO shadow noise appears in low light shots.
This was measured using Sandisk extreme pro 32GB card with 95Mb/s read/ 90MB/s write.

1824 x 776 @ 2.35 / 24fps got 14s.   Good for master shots / pans (90% of 1920 @ 2.35) typically pans are 7s.
1792x762 @ 2.35 /24fps   got 16s.  Good for most dialogue.  Probably very usable for most cut dialogue shots.
1728x736 @ 2.35 /24fps   got 22s. Good for extended dialogue.  Rarely does one talk for 22s in a shot without need for a cut.
1600 x 680 @ 2.35 / 24fps got 62s.  Good for scenes. Wow!  This pretty much is same as continuous as rare to shoot past 30s in a scene.

Now here are some continuous raw resolutions, which is good for documentary shoots or web streaming.
1504x640 @ 2.35 /24fps  is continuous.
720p @ 16:9 /24fps is continuous, and cuts nicely with 720p @16:9 60fps H264 for slow motion frame rate.

Until variable fps is working better, I would suggest avoid the higher 3X zoom resolutions.  Once variable fps is working better, you may be able
to shoot 2k for about 7s clips for what that is worth.   
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: camslide on July 23, 2015, 10:01:55 PM
@ShootMeAlready
Thanks for this very informative post! I just wanted to answer the max resolution question from mrpanda.
I will try some of your settings to check whether my SD card is fast enough or if I have to upgrade.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: snakec on July 24, 2015, 10:47:35 AM
Look This Please

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11056.msg151666#msg151666
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: can-on on July 24, 2015, 07:03:27 PM
Hi all,

Anyone know when to expect "audio remote" feature ?
and will have refined "motion detection" error 70 about  ?
(111A)

thanks for the answers
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: tryanbran on July 25, 2015, 06:27:28 AM
Attempted to install ML with the instructions given, this error turned up:

http://i.imgur.com/HjVxGHO.jpg

I tried it with both versions to no avail. I confirmed that all necessary files were present on the SD card prior to hitting the firmware update option, as well as that the SD card was formatted properly in camera.

Card used:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I3BQJNA/ref=s9_psimh_gw_p147_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=07P7HA62AE5MG0X1JWS0&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2079475242&pf_rd_i=desktop

Any suggestions as to how I can fix this problem?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 25, 2015, 09:25:58 AM
Download file linked in first post, extract them and copy extracted contents to card. If it fails with an error message about version you have to try the other file.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 25, 2015, 12:49:58 PM
Can't follow this bug posted here:
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg151488#msg151488

Guess it should be clear that no function has to be assigned on CFN III to set button.
Neither CFN III is mis-set by autoexposure and ETTR nor do i seem to have a malfunction of both features. I would like someone to reproduce before I release a new test-build:

https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/pull-request/1/70d-merge-finalize/diff#comment-None

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: [email protected] on July 25, 2015, 02:04:37 PM
What about the "Trap Focus" feature?
I did use this fantastic feature with my old 60D, it's very useful with vintage lens.
Thanks and greate job!!!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 25, 2015, 06:26:19 PM
      @NikFreak

   Went to ~ https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/pull-request/1/70d-merge-finalize/diff#comment-None

& found this slightly puzzling comment ~

" 70D: disable electronic level / level indicator (freezes after ~1minute of use) "

   I am currently running ~ " magiclantern-Nightly.2015Jul20.70D111B (NoSlurp) "  & My Electronic Level works quite

well for as long as I want it to in both Movie & StillsLV as long as I don't access the ML Menu. If ML Menu is accessed the

E'Level will be Frozen upon return to Movie or StillsLV.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 25, 2015, 08:46:22 PM
@OlRivrRat: http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14309.msg145913#msg145913

can you check above link: Disable ML Overlays by pressing INFO button until you reach canon's electronic level. Leave that screen enabled for a while (~1-2min). Try to enable ML overlays again after that time by pressing INFO button. I was able to freeze the cam like this ON Canon's electronic level screen exactly one time out of several tries and have also found another discussion on other cam forum where it happened to a guy on Canon's screen (date he reported it was no ML available for 70D). Check also my comments below.Didn't know the hidden and facetracking stuff before:

https://bitbucket.org/nikfreak/magic-lantern/pull-request/1/70d-merge-finalize/diff#Lplatform/70D.111B/features.hT32

Problem is I wouldn*'t be in control of what users do: You cannot force them not to use the INFO button to disable ML overlays. Primary goal is to become official part of the nightly ML builds and therefore disable all bugs found if I am not able to fix them. That is my idea of avoiding unnecessary discussions at a later time. But you might try again like instructed above (someone else plz do so, too!!) and convince me to leave it enabled...
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 25, 2015, 08:46:56 PM
ML Leveler (NO_SLURP July 20 build):

AETTR (NO_SLURP July 20 build):
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 25, 2015, 08:52:26 PM
@DeafeyeJedi: thx for the vids. can you check electronic level like I instructed in my last post plz, too?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 25, 2015, 09:43:01 PM
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: tryanbran on July 25, 2015, 11:14:40 PM
http://i.imgur.com/HjVxGHO.jpg

Still getting the same error. Suggestions?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 25, 2015, 11:22:20 PM
Show card's root directory contents.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: tryanbran on July 25, 2015, 11:29:33 PM
http://i.imgur.com/A2HArez.png

Currently have these files on the SD card. I tried with both versions.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 25, 2015, 11:36:09 PM
Looks good.
Format card in cam, insert card into cardreader and copy extracted nightly contents to card once again. Retry and report.
If it fails: Card type and size used?
Have you tried another card?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: tryanbran on July 26, 2015, 12:07:16 AM
Sadly it failed once again.

Card type and size is:

http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-64GB-UHS-I-SDA3/dp/B00I3BQJNA/ref=sr_1_3?&ie=UTF8&qid=1437707571&sr=8-3&keywords=kingston+sda3

I also tried it on this card but it failed too:

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Class-Memory-SF32UY-TQMN/dp/B00B7ID99I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1437862039&sr=8-1&keywords=sony+32gb
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 26, 2015, 03:11:48 AM
      @NikFreak

   With Canon "Viewfinder level" 'Show' ~ Stepping through InfoScreens while in Movie or StillsLV Does Not produce

the Canon "Viewfinder level" in any of Canons Overlays but does render M'L's Level Frozen upon return to the M'L' OverLay

screen ~ The only time that Canons "Level" presents is if the cam' is in StillsEVF & I step to the "Level" Info Screen.

   With Canon "Viewfinder level" 'Hide' ~ The Freezing of M'L's Level CEASES COMPLETELY ~ Eureka ~ Please Do Not

disable the M'L' Level as it is MUCH MORE Valuable than Canons in that it can be on display @ all times if One chooses to

have it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 26, 2015, 04:01:17 AM
                @tryanbran

        It may just be a Diff' between Mac & PC but it appears as though those files may be getting Modified while on your PC or during Copy to SD card. Try

Placing the .zip on the SD Card & then Unstuff & Move them from Folder to Root. Curious to see if the Modified Date UpDates or stays the Same as the

Creation Date as it does on My Mac -- & Also, Of Course, If it resolves your issue.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: tryanbran on July 26, 2015, 04:55:38 AM
@OlRivrRat

Alright so I tried placing the zip file into the SD card and extracting it there, sadly the problem still shows up :(
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 26, 2015, 06:26:16 AM
      @tryanbran

   I'm beginin to think that you Might just Be Messin with Us as

                                                 Firmware update program

                                                                Update file

                                                          cannot be found.

                                                  Please check the memory

                                                        card and reload the

                                                       battery and try again.

Does Not seem to be normal Canon Warning ~

It Should read

                                                   Update camera firmware

                                                    Memory card containing

                                                     firmware is required to

                                                                   update
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: tryanbran on July 26, 2015, 07:12:20 AM
@OlRivrRat

Rest assured, no one's messing with anyone haha.

That second message that you posted does show up when I put in the SD card without any Magic Lantern files on it and try to update. However, the first one shows up only if the files are on the SD card.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 26, 2015, 12:40:21 PM
@tryanbran: when did you buy the cam? Does it show 1.1.1 as firmware version?
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: tryanbran on July 27, 2015, 02:40:05 AM
@nikfreak

I purchased the camera sometime in October-November 2013; I don't remember the exact date. And yeah the version number shows up as 1.1.1.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 27, 2015, 07:41:51 AM
ok as dumb as it sounds but seems like user error. I re-tried the installer and it works. Try another card!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 27, 2015, 08:38:58 AM
Just in case: Change both filenames to uppercase/lowercase and try again.
And sorry for the pun.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: hardtmuth on July 27, 2015, 01:20:11 PM
Hi guys,

I'm only reading your thread and right now I don't use ML on my 70D. It's quite new, about 4 weeks, so I would like to use it w/o ML for few months and get most of it (I was using 1000d before).

I've noticed on forum that there are some flaws with right temperature read. Maybe it will be useful, but for each photo in exif data there is a one line named Camera Temperature which states what it names. I've checked few photos and it varies from 25 to 40 degrees Celsius. More on that I've tested what temperature is on photos after some movie recording and as I supposed - the temperature is higher.

Maybe this is the right way to make some look up table or conversion equation according to that exif data from photo and raw data red by ML from Canon?

I'm sorry if someone said about this feature, I've red all pages, but maybe I don't remember everything.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on July 27, 2015, 02:02:17 PM
@hardtmuth: temperatures have been displayed wrong on earlier builds. Feature of displaying temperatures is still a WIP. Therefore I disabled that feature. We don't really suffer from temperature problems in terms of overheating until the cam shuts down or gets bricked. Most reports belonged to the wrong displayed temperatures or some placebos. Nothing to worry for 1st time users.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: tryanbran on July 28, 2015, 06:32:04 AM
I don't wanna waste anymore of your guys' time so thank you so much for helping out! I'll be sure to update if it does ever end up working.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: hardtmuth on July 28, 2015, 07:18:23 AM
@nikfreak: okey :). I hope that in a few months I'll start to use ML and do some tests.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 28, 2015, 07:31:57 AM
      @ tryanbran

   You should try to find someone in your area who is successfully running M'L' on an OlderVersion of 70D like yours & borrow their SDCard

for a quick test. If that works just copy the files off that card to your card & cross your fingers.

   Or send me an EM @ [email protected] & I'll send you my address so you can send me an SDCard that I'll put my files on & send it

back to you. Just a Cheepo PNY 2GB should work just fine ~
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: sergey on July 28, 2015, 10:58:26 AM
I was told  how open   in  LR 6.1 or PS 2015 CC (Windows)   File.DNG  received in ML . Сan anyone help.

At least it is a temporary solution.
You have to change the "Unique Camera Model" in the metadata of the DNG file to "Canon EOS 60D".

Here is how you can do it:
1. Get exiftool from here: http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/
2. Open a command prompt (like CMD in Windows)
3. Navigate to the folder where your DNG files are located
4. Run the command: exiftool -UniqueCameraModel="Canon EOS 60D" *.DNG
5. DONE: you can now open the DNG files in CameraRAW or Lightroom again

Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: jasongw on July 29, 2015, 10:08:43 PM
Quick question. I skimmed the thread and didn't see this answered, so please don't kill me if I just missed it :). Does this make it possible to capture clean 1080p from the HDMI port?

Thanks!

Jason
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: ikemikek on July 30, 2015, 01:22:53 AM
Hello,
I realize this is off-topic and I sincerely apologize if this is not the appropriate place for this.
I was wondering if it is possible to use an external HDMI monitor with the 70D running ML and retain the touch-focus capabilities? In other words, to ensure that both the external monitor and the flip-out LCD are displaying the live view.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: aedipuss on July 30, 2015, 03:56:52 PM
@ tryanbran 

if you are still checking the thread - is there any way for you to use a pc rather than a mac?  i've had trouble with macs trashing cards with ml files on them.  something about the file extensions used macs don't like and they write a bunch of hidden files/folders to the card that you can't see.  i've taken a working ml card out of a camera, checked it on a pc, put it in a mac pro and then neither the pc nor the camera could read them.  a low level format was the only way to fix it.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: OlRivrRat on July 30, 2015, 06:35:23 PM
      @aedipuss

   It appears as though, from the ScreenShot that He posted a link to, Tryanbran is using a PC.

As far as M'L' on Mac is concerned ~ Myself & 2 Friends have been working with M'L' on Macs for several

years with Great Success. My MacPro is an older 1 that can not run an OS newer than 10.7.5 but the 2

other Guys have New IMacs & MacPros & the Newest OSs ~ No Problems. The Cams range from My 5DC,

5DMk2 & 70D to their 5DMk3s, 70Ds & 60D.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Danny on July 31, 2015, 08:58:38 PM
Hi :)

I have a problem and I dont know how fix it.

If I recording to RAW o my 70D in new version of ML (Jul13 version) cant export video to MOV/DNG in Mlrawviewer (1.4.3 or 1.3.3). Click on ''Add clip to export queue'' and nothing happed. But in old version of ML (May31 version) with old ML RAW record its work fine.

Anyone have same problem?

Thanks for reaction, thanks for ML and sorry for my eng. :)

 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: aedipuss on August 01, 2015, 05:00:10 PM
@olrivrrat - ok might have been a one off.  it was the only time i'd ever tried having a mac read a ml card.  won't do it again.  almost lost that card.

does anyone know if the 70d has a UHS2 sd card interface?  i just picked up a card read writes an honest, tested 200MB/s but only if used in a UHS2 device.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 01, 2015, 05:04:07 PM
There is no Canon DSLR supporting UHS-II.
If your card is from SanDisk it will have inferior UHS-I compatibility mode speed. Maxing out at about 47 MByte/s write rate.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: Surrealtime on August 01, 2015, 10:31:30 PM
@jasongw The hardware doesn't support clean HDMI so it will never be possible as far as I know.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: aedipuss on August 02, 2015, 06:29:51 AM
@walter schulz - oh well, at least it's a lexar and does 85MB/s write in UHS-I
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: aedipuss on August 03, 2015, 02:03:59 AM
is it only me or does the development of this 70d ml seem a bit off?  i have used ml for a couple years on my 60d and am quite happy with it.  i need the standard still frame type stuff like HDR multiframe control and the standard video stuff like audio levels and manual control along with zebras.  i am more than happy with the 70d 90mb/s ALL I-FRAME video with autofocus control and have no use for raw video.

so there is nothing in these alpha versions i would want, but if the standard stuff were added i'd gladly help test it out.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: chrisfrancia on August 03, 2015, 04:47:26 AM
i gotta say I agree, I was at first excited for raw video but after finding out about the inconvenience of the 45 mb/s... I wish other smaller things were implemented instead.

For example, with the current state of ML for the 70D for video I mainly use ML for the focus dots/peaking, however if I want to see audio levels I have to sacrifice this
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: bben83 on August 03, 2015, 06:20:53 AM
Thanks a lot for your very good job !

I wonder why the movie rec key isn't more available in this alpha6b version ?

Can I hope this function to be back in the further versions ?

 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: LostFate on August 03, 2015, 06:24:14 AM
First and foremost, great job on the port to the 70D!

I've been silently stalking following the progress of this project since before it moved to this new(er) thread. Coming from the T3i, the 70D is a massive step up... but I have to echo the sentiment of the fellows above me. I've been considering putting the bug in your ear for bulb ramping for a while now but felt like I'd be an a$$. Seeing as all the cool kids are doing it, I figure I'll finally make the request.

Disclaimer: Well aware that this is a free project that you aren't getting paid for. These are not demands. You do whatever you think is best... Just, if what you think is best happens to be bulb ramping there will be internet high fives waiting for you.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: TechnoPilot on August 03, 2015, 06:25:31 AM
I've been noticing a lot more inconsistency with the latest 6b build and 6 from the 5b switching from a display picture style to the record picture style.  It used to reliably switch, but the new versions don't always, especially for the first recording after a bootup.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: nikfreak on August 03, 2015, 06:48:22 AM
Quote from 1st post:

Quote
Update your forum signature and add your model (70D.111A or 70D.111B) so you can expect help with bugs.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: TechnoPilot on August 03, 2015, 07:45:27 AM


Quote from 1st post:

Hi Nikfreak,

Sorry about the lack of that, I'll boot up my computer tomorrow, login and add it.  For now, just know I'm running the 111B firmware.
Title: Re: Canon 70D (Alpha6b 13th July)
Post by: ShootMeAlready on August 03, 2015, 06:42:02 PM
As long as folks are kicking it about, and for what its worth, I think a higher quality H264 would be best way to improve IQ.
The two features being most coveted are variable bit rate (better detail & push colour grade harder), and dual iso video (for HDR).
H264 lets one use higher ISO without Hot Pixel hassles, and the workflow is faster than raw.  ALL-I compression shot flat, when handled correctly is excellent.

I sympathize with those frustrated by the 70D raw resolution limits, however the 70D AF does touchscreen focus pulls & faster than focus puller action tracking. 
So its AF chops with H264 and ALL-I compression make the 70D useful and even crucial tool. 
If one wants to shoot 1920 @ 2.35 14 bit raw, 5DMkII is still best $$$ option (around $1k).
If one can work with less than 1920 @ 2.35 raw via up res.(see my recent post page 58) , thats where the 70D can work.  720p raw or 1500 @ 2.35 raw, the 70D is continuous.
If one wants to shoot 2k and beyond raw, consider the BMD ursa mini 4k, super 35mm sensor, global shutter, 12 stops DR (same as 70D), 12 bit raw (negligible difference from 14bit raw), Da Vinci resolve enabling 444 442 flavours, up to 160 fps slo-mo, and with EF mount lens ($3k + battery option). 
Title: Re: Canon 70D (