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Guide to Installing ML on 5D mkII for shooting with MLV Raw Video with Sound
As of March 27, 2014.

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A.)-What You Need
1. Your 5D2 Camera
2. Computer
3. Connection to the internet for downloading needed firmware and apps
4. CF Card, 1000X recommended for Raw video.
5. USB Card Reader, USB3.0 UDMA7 Compliant recommended.
Note#1 on Using USB Card Reader
Some CF cards like the affordable KomputerBay 64gig 1000X and higher, are known to become corrupted and is not compatible with card readers that are USB2.0.
Use USB3.0 UDMA7 compatible readers.


D.)- Installing ML on Your Camera
(http://a1ex.magiclantern.fm/bleeding-edge/new-installer.png)

Installation:
1) Format the card from the camera.
2) Make sure you are running Canon firmware 2.1.2 (http://www.canon-europe.com/Support/Consumer_Products/products/cameras/Digital_SLR/EOS_5D_Mark_II.aspx).
3) Copy ML files (http://builds.magiclantern.fm/) on the card and run Firmware Update.

Uninstallation:
1) Run Firmware Update from your ML card.
2) Follow the instructions.

E.)-Updating from ML Nightly Builds
1. With your CF card in your Card reader, copy the latest Nightly Build file you have unzipped earlier to your CF card, you will have 2 files, ML folder and Autoexec.bin. Copy both over the old ones. (No need to include the .fir file)
2. Place CF back into Camera, Turn ON, press live view, press trash bin icon to bring up ML menu, if you see the Magic Lantern info screen, just press trash bin again, you can navigate this menu via joystick(multicontroller), control dials, set button and the picture style button to access sub menus in ML.
Note#5  Accessing sub menus when in ML menu.
Pressing the Picture Style is same as Q button on other models.

F.)-Load Modules You Need
1.  With Camera ON and in Liveview, press Trash Bin to bring up ML menu,
2. Using the joystick or the front scroll wheel navigate to the MODULES Tab, then using the joystick or the rear dial/scroll wheel select the following mdules by pressing SET. You will see an ON,WILL LOAD.
    For Raw Video recording: (essentials)
   file_man
   mlv_play
   mlv_rec
   mlv_snd
   pic_view
   raw_rec (this is version one of raw and should not be used together with mlv_rec, choose one)
   For advanced stills shooting:(see relevant stills threads as I'll focus more on video shooting)
3. Reboot your camera, when ON, go back to ML menu and confirm in the Modules Tab the Modules you loaded, they will now have an OK beside them.
Later on, when you have learned more about ML, you can load and unload additional modules this way.
Note#6 Some Modules you have Loaded Still Need to be Turned ON
After you have confirmed in the Modules Tab, Modules like MLV Sound(mlv_snd.mo) and MLV Raw Video(mlv_rec.mo) has to be toggled on in the respective Raw Video and Sound Tabs. See Recommended settings part G/2, below.

G.)-Recommended Setting for your Camera (Shooting with MLV+Sound)

1. Canon Menu:
  -1st Cam Tab
   Peripheral illum.correct > disable
  -2nd Cam Tab
   color space > adobe rgb
  -2nd Play Tab   
    highlight alert > disable
    image jump > 1 image
  -1st Wrench Tab
   Auto power Off >OFF (or  8 min or 15 min depending on CF card/ 8min-32 gig /15min-64gig)
  -2nd Wrench TAB
   Liveview func/movie set> LV func.setting > Stills+movie / Screen setting > movie display
   Set correct Date and Time
  -Cfn I   
    Exposure > iso expansion > ON
  -Cfn II
   Hi ISO speed noise reduction> Disable
   Highlight tone priority> Disable
   Auto lighting optimizer> Disable

2. Magic Lantern Menu:
  -Audio Tab
   MLV Sound>ON  48khz default
   (pressing pic style then top scroll wheel will let you choose 48/44.1/22/11/8 khz)
   Headphone Mon.>ON (If you need monitoring use av cable with rca to phone jack adapter or a sesscom cable)
Note#7 MLV Sound
When MLV Sound is ON, a separate WAV file is generated at the framerate determined by your FPS setting in Canon Menu.
When FPS Override is used, only the framerate of raw video is affected, the WAV file will remain either 24fps or 30fps depending on the FPS setting in canon menu.
It is not possible to playback mlv sound in-camera.

  -Overlay Tab
   Global Draw.ON (this is the main "switch" for GD, there is another one in raw video sub menu)
   I recommend to turn OFF all other entries when shooting raw.

  -Movie Tab
   FPS override>23.976 (optimize for Exact FPS) This is necessary if you will shoot in Crop mode (link)
Note#8 FPS Over ride uses.
When recording in 3X crop mode, the default framerate is 30fps regardless of your setting in canon menu,
so activate FPS Override and set to 23.976 or 25, or 24 depending on your use.
It is important that you set this OFF when you want sound to be recorded when using native h264 mov.
Your hint is the absence of the audio meters when this is engaged.
In MLV RAW, a separate WAV file is recorded even if FPS override is used. See Audio Tab Note#7 above.
   Raw video (MLV)>ON (after pressing set to turn ON press  pic styles for more options)
   >Raw Video(MLV) sub menu
   Resolution>1728x972 (see table of what is currently continuous at different settings) http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11205.msg108936#msg108936
   Aspect Ratio>16:9 (see table of what is currently continuous at different settings)
   Global Draw>ALLOW
   Frame Skipping>OFF
   Preview>Auto
   Status when recording>Icon
   Extra Hacks>ON
   Fix Black level>OFF (turning this ON will give a pinkish shade to your raw frames-as of May15 nightly)
   Leave others at default until you have familiarized yourself shooting ML.
   >Movie Tweaks Sub Menu (these usually paertain to h264 recording)
   Movie Restart>ON (allows you unsupervised continuous recording in h264, when the 4gig limit is reached, recording restarts again, there is a 1second gap)

  -Display Tab
   LV DIGIC Peaking>Slightly sharper (Use this instead of the old peaking method, faster, more accurate)
   Advanced Settings Sub menu
   >Screen Layout>4:3 display,auto

  -Modules Tab
   See Part F.

  -Prefs Tab
   Config files sub menu
   >Config Autosave>ON
   Warnings for bad settings sub menu
   >Mode warning>other than M (warns you if you move the dial from Manual)

  -Debug Tab
   Modules debug sub menu
   >Load modules after crash>ON

After making these recommended settings, its advisable to do a camera reboot so ML can save the settings before beginning to shoot.

H.)-Shooting Raw in 1X mode or Normal mode
1. The SET button starts and stops recording for both raw video and h264.
2. Shooting in 30P is possible when set in Canon menu but only short record times is possible for bigger resolutions. (see table of what is currently continuous at different settings)
Tip: Since picture profiles have no burned in effect in RAW video recording, I increase sharpness in my pic styles to aid in focusing, in addition to using DIGIC Peaking.

I.)-Shooting Raw in 3X Crop mode
1. To activate 3X crop mode press magnify button once (5X), pressing it twice(10X) has no effect and is useful for checking focus only. So, to be clear, its not 5x crop mode, its 3X crop mode using 5X magnify.
2. After pressing magnify button, go to ML menu>Raw Video sub menu. You can now select resolutions higher than 18xx.  Highest is 2144x1076  16:9 but only for a few seconds.
(see table of what is currently continuous at different settings) http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11205.msg108936#msg108936
3. Activate FPS Override as the camera defaults to 30P in crop mode even if 24P is selected in canon menu.
In some higher resolutions or slow cards it might be necessary to use slower  FPS to achieve longer record times.
4. Viewing and framing in crop mode is challenging. There are different option in RAW Video sub menu>preview> (Auto/Canon/ML Grayscale) Default is AUTO
Auto
Canon-Gives you the "normal" Canon 5X magnification, real time color feedback but inaccurate framing.
ML Grayscale-Gives you proper near accurate framing but grayscale/low resolution/slow feed back.
5. Color viewing and slightly better preview is available for crop mode by half pressing the shutter.  You can turn ON Sticky half Shutter in ML Menu>Prefs>Misc key settings>Sticky HalfShutter>ON.
BUT this conflicts with the SET button for start and stop of recording. Workaround is, Start recording/half press to view in color, when your about to stop half press again to disengage half shutter/Stop Recording.
J.)-Viewing your Raw Files In-Camera
1. In ML Menu, go to DEBUG TAB, scroll down to FILE MANAGER,press SET,Navigate to the DCIM folder of your CF card, click SET, find and select the file you want to view.
2. Choose VIEW to playback file.
3. Press Trash Bin to activate playback controls and options. Use Scroll Dial to select option and press SET.
Note#9 Files you will expect to find in your CF Card when shooting RAW.
xxx-xxxx.MLV - Raw File containing both DNG and WAV.
xxx-xxxx.Mxx - Part of the MLV file generated if recording exceeds 4gig.
xxx-xxxx.IDX - file generated after you viewed an MLV or an Mxx file in file manager.
MLV_REC.TMP - preallocation file created when you RESERVE CARD SPACE>ON in the RAW Video submenu.
xxx-xxxx.RAW - Raw file ver.1 containing DNG frames (no audio)
xxx-xxxx.Rxx - Part of the RAW file generated if recording exceeds 4gig.
xxx-xxxx.MOV - h264 Video file
xxx-xxxx.THM - Thumbnail of the MOV file.
Note#10 Native H264 mov or JPG files cannot be played back via file manager viewer.
To View native H264 MOV or JPG Stills make sure that RAW Video(MLV) is OFF in ml menu MOVIE TAB.
Use Play Button to view MOV files.

K.)-Extracting your DNGs and WAV files.
  Windows:
   For converting MLV files to 12bit or 16bit CDNG: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5618.0
   For converting MLV Files to 14bit DNG: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10198.msg98334;topicseen#msg98334
  Mac:
   For converting RAW files to CDNG: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6218.0

L.)-Editing the DNG/CDNG & WAV files.

Da Vinci Resolve 10 Lite (Free Application for grading and simple editing) : http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve

More discussions on Post Workflow here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=54

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I'll compile a simplified installer later today, so you'll be able to install directly from nightly builds.

Resolutions and record times the 5D mkII can do with Magic Lantern using a Komputerbay 64gig 1000X CF card.

MLV raw recordings are all done with mlv sound ON unless indicated.

Tested using Mar 14-15 Nightly.

(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t31.0-8/1911186_457587827705340_948221863_o.jpg)

For 25P recording via 30P+fps override. tested using mar 27 nightly.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t31.0-8/1960971_457810154349774_834951388_o.jpg)

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Tutorial video from reddeercity (David Miazga).

So, no more post from a.d? Is this the official no more 1880 and potentially no more 1872? Does this mean we will go to solely MLV format? Thanks for your response.

Maybe some a.d., Pravdomil or 1% statement ? Does the "official" releases includes some of their work ?   

It's the version from those who actually develop it (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/all).

The rest of the comments are plain trolling. I've invited a.d. (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5533.msg108926#msg108926) to submit his changes to the main repository, raw_rec is still enabled (http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/features), I already said (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10843.msg105418#msg105418) I'll keep it until MLV will be clearly better, and resolution was already discussed in the other thread.

Work from a.d., pravdomil and 1% already included in the nightly builds:
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/all?search=a.d.+a_d_
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/all?search=pravdomil
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/all?search=1%25+Percent

Constructive feedback please.

Can this thread be made to a Sticky?

Edit: Thank you!

Simplified installer working :)

Works good. Changing install instructions.

Please make recommendations and corrections to the first post. I will add apps that are recommended to work well, especially for mac and other platforms I am not familiar with.

Resolutions and Record times comparison between Raw-rec and MLV raw video posted above. http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11205.msg108936#msg108936

Great chart, this should be very helpful in tracking down the slowness in MLV.

I've asked the 5D3 owners to do the same, since there were rumours that firmware 1.2.3 might be slower than 1.1.3: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11017.msg109169#msg109169

Quote from: ted ramasola on March 27, 2014, 09:00:05 AM
Resolutions and record times the 5D mkII can do with Magic Lantern using a Komputerbay 64gig 1000X CF card.

Tested using Mar 14-15 Nightly.

(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t31.0-8/1911186_457587827705340_948221863_o.jpg)

This seems incorrect to me. Maybe your card it's a little bit slow? I'll let you know my test.

@Ted

What raw_rec version are you using in your tests?

@Ted your numbers seem to be very low form your chart
My numbers are alot higher , it that with KB card only or
Other bands as well?

But I question the fact you tested at other then 23.976 or 30p
Frames per second , what's the use I think the chart should reflect
Standard Video frame rates only! Some peple may get confuse by this.

Different frame rates are used, to provide a larger sample size.

Added chart showing resolutions and record times at 25P.

In crop mode I'm still seeing much better performance from raw_rec than mlv_rec. Is this to be expected?

2144x917@25fps gets me around 20secs in mlv, as opposed to over a minute in raw. 5D2, Sandisk 1067x, 29-03-14 build, no mlv_snd.

Edit: Was looking at the 25P chart, didn't notice the crop mode figures above. Sorry.

A few questions regarding this thread and 5D II.

After all the fork talk and the closure of the other 5D MK II thread. I'm wondering what this thread is all about? I don't mean this in a patronizing way, I just feel like this 5D II thread won't have much to say anymore regarding development. I would like if someone could clarify a couple of things for me.

What is the point of this thread?

What is a.d.'s and pavdomils role now?

Can we ask for any features/changes in this thread or must we put everything in to feature request section? or where exactly? Cause I'm at a loss right now

What does the "forking" word actually mean? First time I heard that word was in the announcement. (kept reading it as something else too hehe)

Thank you.

Quote from: andyshon on March 30, 2014, 11:12:06 AM
In crop mode I'm still seeing much better performance from raw_rec than mlv_rec. Is this to be expected?

2144x917@25fps gets me around 20secs in mlv, as opposed to over a minute in raw. 5D2, Sandisk 1067x, 29-03-14 build, no mlv_snd.

Edit: Was looking at the 25P chart, didn't notice the crop mode figures above. Sorry.

yes, that's to be expected.

Quote from: Kharak on March 30, 2014, 09:36:40 PM
A few questions regarding this thread and 5D II.

After all the fork talk and the closure of the other 5D MK II thread. I'm wondering what this thread is all about? I don't mean this in a patronizing way, I just feel like this 5D II thread won't have much to say anymore regarding development. I would like if someone could clarify a couple of things for me.

What is the point of this thread?

What is a.d.'s and pavdomils role now?

Can we ask for any features/changes in this thread or must we put everything in to feature request section? or where exactly? Cause I'm at a loss right now

What does the "forking" word actually mean? First time I heard that word was in the announcement. (kept reading it as something else too hehe)

Thank you.

This is a fresh canvas, most of a.d"s and pravdomils critical add ons are now added in unified, they are continuing their contributions to ML, just that its not labeled as third party anymore since the devs are now going to follow the workflow in pulling requests, and making commits. A lot of the content in the old threads are now obsolete due to major changes in code and with MLV, plus the simplification of the install process.

You can place your tests and bug reports here.

There are new users coming in everyday so we'll be trying to arrange things to be user friendly even for those who are not into the coding part of ML. Expect some changes in the arrangements and content of the sections and threads soon.

Hello, I'm having trouble unzipping the ML file for the mkii upon download. I tried downloading and unzipping on other computers and it seems to be having the same problem. I've been looking around for another solution online or if anyone else has been having the same problem with no luck. I've unzipped files before on my Mac and have never had a problem before. I even downloaded a 3rd party unzip app but it still doesn't work. Does anyone have any suggestions/solutions? Thanks.

Quote from: chrisorr on April 03, 2014, 10:59:38 PM
Hello, I'm having trouble unzipping the ML file for the mkii upon download. I tried downloading and unzipping on other computers and it seems to be having the same problem. I've been looking around for another solution online or if anyone else has been having the same problem with no luck. I've unzipped files before on my Mac and have never had a problem before. I even downloaded a 3rd party unzip app but it still doesn't work. Does anyone have any suggestions/solutions? Thanks.

What third party are you using I use WinRAR on PC and its fine & just tried My MacPro with Maverick 10.9.1
All Clear there, it automatically unzip for me on the Mac in my download folder.

april 1 build test.

Fix black level ON causing pinkish cast. I think this should be set to OFF as default.

I think it should not be there in the first place, but I'll fix that when I'll get home (next week).

Hi there
Just a little question, to confirm what i have read here and there on the web...
Is it right that ML on 5DII can't increase frame rate to 60fps ?
or 50fps, or 65fps ?

Thank you

Quote from: geco on April 04, 2014, 02:56:34 PM
Hi there
Just a little question, to confirm what i have read here and there on the web...
Is it right that ML on 5DII can't increase frame rate to 60fps ?
or 50fps, or 65fps ?

Thank you

Yes, your limited to 30fps, as per canon menu. You can over crank it a little I think to about 35 fps
with Frame over ride enable.

Been away awhile and see alot has changed, For us Mkii users (and others im guessing) its either Stable release or if wanting to test new features use nightly builds? cheers guys.

Also, i cant find a working MLV extractor for Mac, im on 10.8.5 and non are booting or extracting. Cheers again.

@Doyle4

Everything has now shifted to here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11205.msg108946;topicseen#msg108946 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11205.msg108946;topicseen#msg108946)

;)

Quote from: reddeercity on April 04, 2014, 12:55:33 AM
What third party are you using I use WinRAR on PC and its fine & just tried My MacPro with Maverick 10.9.1
All Clear there, it automatically unzip for me on the Mac in my download folder.

I used izip Stuffit Expander. I have 10.9.2 as well. When I click to open the zip a duplicate .cpgz file pops up.

There're other files in the download with the zip file so it may have unzipped automatically but I don't know the exact contents in the zip so I have nothing to compare it to.

Here's what I have:

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/07/uva6e8ag.jpg)

This may be the contents I need to upload to my card but I don't know. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know. I just don't want to risk turning my camera into a brick.

Thanks!

Magic Lantern v2.3 - Install Guide (http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/install)

I never saw any .cpgz file.
I suggest to delete and ignore it and/or to use another zip application.
By the way: OSX (just as windows) can unzip zip files right from the finder without any third party software. And it does it correctly!

I tried unzipping it from the finder menu first and it just created the .cpgz file. Same with the other two zip applications I downloaded. I also tried downloading and unzipping it on 3 other computers (all Macs)  and it did the exact same thing.

I'm not sure why it seems to be so simple for everyone else but me.

Has anyone else had this problem or am I the only one in the universe? Because I've looked through various forums and can't seem to find anyone who's had this issue.

Quote from: chrisorr on April 06, 2014, 07:17:15 PM
I used izip Stuffit Expander. I have 10.9.2 as well. When I click to open the zip a duplicate .cpgz file pops up.
There're other files in the download with the zip file so it may have unzipped automatically but I don't know the exact contents in the zip so I have nothing to compare it to. This may be the contents I need to upload to my card but I don't know. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know. I just don't want to risk turning my camera into a brick.
Thanks!

Yes that it, just ignore that .cpgz file , it's a Compressed UNIX CPIO Archive file.
Here a link with some info : http://osxdaily.com/2013/02/13/open-zip-cpgz-file/
Just down load it again, these are the files you should have:

1)5D2_212.fir
2)autoexec.bin
3)ML folder
4)inside the ML folder
a)Cropmks  folder --->CineSco2.bmp, CrssMtr2.bmp, Passport.bmp, PhiPhoto.bmp, PhiVideo.bmp
b)data         folder --->apsc8p.lut, apsc8r.lut, ff8p.lut, ff8r.lut
c)docs         file
d)fronts       folder --->arghlf22.rbf, argnor23.rgf, argnor28.rbf, argnor32.rbf, term12.rbf, term20.rbf
e)logs          folder
f)modules    folder --->5D2_212.sym, arkanoid.mo, autoexpo.mo, deflick.mo, dot_tune.mo, dual_iso.mo, ettr.mo, file_man.mo, mlv_play.mo, mlv_rec.mo, mlv_snd.mo, pic_view.mo, raw_rec.mo, silent.mo
g)README   file
h)scripts     folder --->brack.c, clock.c, dump.lua, dumpcfg.lua, hello.c, hello.py, img.c, keys.c, print.lua, sokoban.c, test.c, wb_shoot.lua
I)setting     folder

You only need 4 modules to record mlv video+audio, "5D2_212.sym, file_man.mo, mlv_rec.mo, mlv_snd.mo".
hope that helps  :)

Hi there,

first of all. really awesome guide with all the infos needed in one compact place. thank you. also thx to the devs of course!

I just updated to the last nightly magiclantern-Nightly.2014Apr07.5D2212.

everything seems to work just fine, but one small thing changed from the a.d build I had before ( 2b804e8cdd3c ), which kind of bothers me. there, when you disabled global draw, it still showed you a white rectangle which indicated the size which gets recorded. sry, english is not my first language. what I mean is you had a small rectangle if for example you choose 1728x972 and an smaller one if you choose 1728x824. would it be possible to implement this again?

Reason: I like to let the other stuff (waveform, vectorscope, etc) turned on when working on my image. it's bothersome to turn it all on and off everytime you record. thank you

EDIT: Ah, pravdomil already posted here (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5533.msg109036#msg109036) that this is one of two features which were not brought back to the main branch. so this is already known. I'm just kindly asking, is there any work going on to bring this features to the unified branch?

I just found another difference:
This new build magiclantern-Nightly.2014Apr07.5D2212 seems to be slower than 2b804e8cdd3c when recording:

Today I could record with 1728x972@25p on a 128GB 1000x KB CF card for as long as nearly 10mins (before I pressed stop). Now I only get about 30seconds (~1500 frames).
I use the same settings as before, which are:

Quote
Resolution: 1728x972
Aspect ration: 16:9
Global Draw: OFF
Frame Skipping: OFF
Preview: AUTO
Status when recording: ICON // wasn't in the other build, so I don't change it
Start delay: 4sec
Digi Dolly: OFF
Card warm-up: 128MB
Extra Hacks: ON
Fix black level: OFF // also because new
Debug trace: OFF
Show buffer graph: OFF
Buffer fill method: 4
Reserve card space: OFF // new
Tag: Text none
Tag: Take OFF

Did I miss something which I could change to get faster speed? I also did all the other things described in the first post of this topic in the Canon menu. This settings I had before and differ from the guide:

Quote
peripheral illumin. correct: ON
color space: sRGB
high ISO speed noise reductn: 0: Standard

I hope this somehow can help you guys with merging the forks.


EDIT: since I'm rather new here, I hope it's okay I posted this here. Or should it go into the Nightly Builds thread (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3072.6258 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3072.6258))? I don't want to crosspost...

Try with preview to hacked preview instead of Auto & I find that buffer fill rate is the fastest set
to "0" plus audio 44.1 instead of 48 . Turn icon off in favor of the debug recording raw info bar, not
Sure it will help speedup but it will tell you if you issue recording to card.

Edit: use adobe color space in camera , will give you better skin tones and better color in general.

Quote from: reddeercity on April 08, 2014, 08:35:30 PM
Edit: use adobe color space in camera , will give you better skin tones and better color in general.

In other words: you claim, that the image recorded by raw_rec or mlv_rec differs when you change the color space of the camera?
That's not true!

"Adobe Color Space" is a RGB color space and thus NOT raw! It's used for compressing to jpg. So, the RAW buffer, ML reads from is not affected.

[However, when you shot pictures in (Canon)RAW, the embedded preview file differs (since it's compressed to RGB).]


It's up to everyone in what color space one works later on the computer. Here you will definitely get different results. But the .raw or .mlv files will always look the same!

Quote from: guentergunter on April 08, 2014, 09:57:10 PM
the image recorded by raw_rec or mlv_rec differs when you change the color space of the camera?
That's not true!

Indeed. 

And virtually all skin tones are within the sRGB color space.  So AdobeRGB isn't going to do anything about that, either.

Quote from: mageye on April 05, 2014, 12:26:36 PM
@Doyle4

Everything has now shifted to here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11205.msg108946;topicseen#msg108946 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11205.msg108946;topicseen#msg108946)

;)

Thanks dude!

Sorry again for a question, little lost as its changed, the link i was sent to shows what work has been done etc which is sweet, but where do i download the latest for 5dmkii? last one i see is 14th Feb or are we downloading from nightly's now :)

Cheers.

@doyle4
Yes, download from nightlies.

@ted ramasola

Thank you.

Being HDMI & Live View still go though Jpeg chip and I capture live view via hdmi recorder there is processing and I find in adobe color space the image is nice( fuller). And the capture image look the same as the raw image. Plus I still use H264 , so it only make sense to use it.

The color profile is used for tagging the output.  It is not used during processing.

Color images > RGB
Video > YCbCr

The YCbCr (video) format uses color matrices, such as Rec. ITU-R BT. 709 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rec._709).  RGB color profile do not apply here, either.
Some form of grading is applied to video information via picture styles, and again, the video (output) is tagged with a color matrix, not a color profile.

So as I understand it there is a lot of processing before it get's to HDMI, and  yes I know its 8bit YCbCr 4:2:2 that complies to hdmi 1.3a which is the same as
The SMPTE 292 (1.5Gb/s). I think chmee did a real good job of explaining how the flow of data off the sensor and it internal processing link ---->
  http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7443.msg99136#msg99136 . So there some stuff going, but each to there own.
For everyone, I found a really good read on canon raw and it gives a very good understanding of what Canon is doing there. I found it Very Interesting.
Link: http://lclevy.free.fr/cr2/  "Understanding What is stored in a Canon RAW"  :)

Quote from: reddeercity on April 10, 2014, 04:08:49 AM
So as I understand it there is a lot of processing before it get's to HDMI,

Which has nothing to do with the way the data is tagged.

Quote from: reddeercity on April 10, 2014, 04:08:49 AM
and  yes I know its 8bit YCbCr 4:2:2 that complies to hdmi 1.3a which is the same as
The SMPTE 292 (1.5Gb/s).

:o

The only thing these formats have in common, is that they both transport digital information.

HDMI 1.3 was released June 22, 2006 and increased the single-link bandwidth to 340 MHz (10.2 Gbit/s) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Version_1.3).

Quote from: reddeercity on April 10, 2014, 04:08:49 AM
I think chmee did a real good job of explaining how the flow of data off the sensor and it internal processing link ---->

That shows a basic diagram of the processing chain.  Again, it shows nothing about the way the data is tagged.

Quote from: reddeercity on April 10, 2014, 04:08:49 AM
For everyone, I found a really good read on canon raw and it gives a very good understanding of what Canon is doing there. I found it Very Interesting.
Link: http://lclevy.free.fr/cr2/  "Understanding What is stored in a Canon RAW"  :)

The color space information, is simply a tag (http://ninedegreesbelow.com/photography/embedded-color-space-information.html).  It gets added to the files metadata, to instruct the processing software to transform the image data into a specific gamut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamut).

With raw data, this tag is simply ignored.  Each raw processor will use it's own transfer characteristics, to transfer the raw data to RGB.

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/forums/thread4804.htm
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/prophoto-rgb.shtml
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3214673
http://www.steves-digicams.com/knowledge-center/in-camera-color-spaces.html

 :) here we go again

I was wondering if any one has come up-pound any issue's recording audio in Crop mode with 5D2 an HDMI recorder attached and recording ?

Here what happen to me, I'm recording the live-view with ninja recorder in crop mode. Being there no audio out the hdmi this is what puzzles me,
When I press the record button on 5D2 I was recording the Lv and recording crop mlv + Audio @ 44.1,  I had a external Mic attached to the ninja and for some reason the audio on the ninja recorder increased in speed , so I had to in fcpx add a pitch filter with about  (neg)-10% and slow it down on the timeline by the same amount.
Every thing was fine and in sync in the recorder until I pressed the set button to record raw in crop mode  then it just speeded up. There's no problem in 1:1 mode just in crop , but the wave file with the mlv was fine and in sync just the recorder had a problem. The Video was fine .

Quote from: nuke01 on April 08, 2014, 08:08:14 PM
I just found another difference:
This new build magiclantern-Nightly.2014Apr07.5D2212 seems to be slower than 2b804e8cdd3c when recording:

Today I could record with 1728x972@25p on a 128GB 1000x KB CF card for as long as nearly 10mins (before I pressed stop). Now I only get about 30seconds (~1500 frames).
I use the same settings as before, which are:

Did I miss something which I could change to get faster speed? I also did all the other things described in the first post of this topic in the Canon menu. This settings I had before and differ from the guide:I hope this somehow can help you guys with merging the forks.

Hi, it's me again. After I reading in some commits (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/branch/unified) about changes from g3gg0 in mlv_rec I decided today to test it again with magiclantern-Nightly.2014Apr22.5D2212. Same setting as posted above. It seems a little bit faster, 1728x972 can now record up to 1 minute, tested with all 5 buffer methods. 1600x900 records continues (tested with buffer method 0 & 3).

So whatever you did, please keep up the great work and maybe soon we can record again continuously with higher resolutions!

I`m sure it was asked or talked about it before. Sorry I couldn`t find the topic..

Why is the max height in 3x crop mode 1076, instead of 1251 (as I think it should logically be... 3753:3=1251)

I`ve recorded, in 1x mode, video with the max height of 1250 (not 16/9).

Thank you!!

Hi There,

I am new to the forum and to Magic Lantern. I am having an issue and I hope someone can help. I have installed ML and believe it is correct. When I am using ML my live view image switches from bright to dark unless I am in Auto ISO. When I film it "flashes" rapidly between light and dark. This is not a subtle flicker of vertical lines or fluorescent light. It is a very extreme flashing. I am sure this is a simple setting that I have overlooked but after hours of going over the user guide I  am stumped. I really want to love ml but I cant shoot in auto ISO. Help.

Thanks

you must have enabled HDR video. turn it off.

Ted, you are exactly right. I can't thank you enough. I knew it was something obvious I was missing. I will need to do a bit of function familiarizing. Cheers!

Testing April 24 nightly.

When recording in MLV raw,
GD ON,
the framing/border disappears and will only reappear when recording stops.

Apr 23 did not have this behavior.


I tested clearing the cf and placing new ML folders and its OK now. Erasing the old magic.cfg must have done the trick.

Anyone recommend a nightly please? im on A.D's Feb 14th 2014 build still, cheers guys.

Hi!


I recently startet using ML in my photography because of the great benefits of in camera intervalometer, extended bracketing possibilities and other fetatures that helps my photography end reduces the need of external gadgets.


Im trying to get the camera to shoot with the intervalometer with open mirror but not activating the LCD screen, and have yet not found a way to accomplish this. The reason I want to do this is to save the shutter mechanism while shooting long sequences for timelapses and also to increase battery lifetime as any activation of the LCD steals battery time.

Anyone?


(New here and English is not my first language, so I hope I have posted in the right place and in an understandable way)

should be an option somewhere in LV settings to set the LCD to off... cant remember exactly where and i dont have my camera at hand sorry.

To shoot with mirror up:
load the silent module (this will enable silent pics from live view)
The silent picture settings will be found under camera. Just turn it on, and then use the intervalometer.
(unfortunately the resolution will only be 1880x1250 or 2152x1076 if you zoom in 5x/10x before taking the pic. The latter is to recommend if you don't want aliasing artefacts, but you loose the full frame image since this will only be a crop.)

To powersave:
There is a setting in "Powersave in LiveView"
just set the turn off LCD to 20min (or whatever), and if you do time-lapse with silent pics, the LCD will turn off immediately

This works in the 24th nightly (before that it was a bug with the powersaving).
Hope that helped.

@poromaa

Would you recommend installing latest nightly from feb 14th 2014 ad build?

The nightly for Feb16th is the one I use for Paid Work. Rock Solid !
http://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/job/5D2.212/206/artifact/platform/5D2.212/magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2014Feb16.5D2212.zip

cheers! ill give that a shot!

@Doyle4
ad's build? Where do you find them? I thought it was only unified now... I just download the nightlies (probably tested a dozen since feb)
@reddeercity
About the 16th?. Is it faster? - What is the maximum resolution for continuous recording?

I can't really say anything about the speed of raw-recording (I do MLV w sound for syncing) between the different builds. I just control that it works.
I have successfully recorded continuous in 70MB/s and below on the 23th of April build. That means
1792 x 968   (1.85:1)   continouos with audio of 48.1kh (crop mode)
1856 x 928   (2:1)      continouos with audio of 48.1kh
@24fps
(Sandisk Extreme Pro 64GB 160MB/s 1066x).

If you think I can get higher than that I can try some other build?

I also tested everything with the HDMI out (to my field monitor) without problems.

Had no problem except some power save feature that I reported here (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/1969/5d2-interval-liveview-powersave#comment-9816912). A1ex was able to fix it and the 24th is working fine.

@poromaa 1872x936 2:1 23.976p , 48khz without hdmi & 44.1 audio with hdmi Evf & Recorder 1:1 @68.5MB/s Continuous
(Canon menu SRaw2) Buffer "0" or "1" Hack No preview, GD off, FPS OverRide enable of course.
1792x1008 16x9, 1920x872 2.20:1, 2048x872 2.35:1 23.976p 44.1 audio, Continuous in Crop Mode with buffer @ "0"
On Lexar 1000x 64Gb & 32GB cards

Oct24th build from A.D. Raw no MLV (Fastest Raw build to date) ---> https://bitbucket.org/a_d_/magic-lantern/downloads/af9a60fe144d.zip
1880x1058 & 2048x930 Continuous, no audio hdmi is a little touchy thou .
All A.D. builds can be found here -->  http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5533.msg37819#msg37819

Hi all , I did a 3x Crop mode tutorial for 5d2, been getting request and a lot of people are having trouble with some of the setting,
so I hopes this help clear things up.  :)

Quote from: poromaa on April 25, 2014, 07:19:46 PM
To shoot with mirror up:
load the silent module (this will enable silent pics from live view)
The silent picture settings will be found under camera. Just turn it on, and then use the intervalometer.
(unfortunately the resolution will only be 1880x1250 or 2152x1076 if you zoom in 5x/10x before taking the pic. The latter is to recommend if you don't want aliasing artefacts, but you loose the full frame image since this will only be a crop.)

To powersave:
There is a setting in "Powersave in LiveView"
just set the turn off LCD to 20min (or whatever), and if you do time-lapse with silent pics, the LCD will turn off immediately

This works in the 24th nightly (before that it was a bug with the powersaving).
Hope that helped.

Quote from: Doyle4 on April 25, 2014, 06:11:05 PM
should be an option somewhere in LV settings to set the LCD to off... cant remember exactly where and i dont have my camera at hand sorry.

The silent picture won't help me as I need fullframes for my timelapses to be able to make "fake dollyslides" and other effects. Hopefully the 24th+ nightly will help because the problem now is that the LCD off just have settings like "Turn off after x Seconds" and there seem to be a bug that turns the LCD on again a second after each shot (even if preview is tunred off" and it turns LCD on haf a second before taking the shot as well...

@reddeercity

Thanks for linking ad builds, couldnt find them since we have moved here.

Youre x3 crop mode test's, is that using the feb 16th build?

Quote from: Espen Ørud on April 26, 2014, 12:36:37 PM

The silent picture won't help me as I need fullframes for my timelapses to be able to make "fake dollyslides" and other effects. Hopefully the 24th+ nightly will help because the problem now is that the LCD off just have settings like "Turn off after x Seconds" and there seem to be a bug that turns the LCD on again a second after each shot (even if preview is tunred off" and it turns LCD on haf a second before taking the shot as well...

I was testing now tihe the nightly from: 2014-04-25 00:10:08 +0200 and I still get Power on on the LCD for a short time before and after each shot...

Hum. If not using the silent-picture you can just press the live view button to turn off live view. Don't forget to turn off image preview from canon menu. There you go - full resolution timelapse without LCD turning on. I tested this right now with build 24th April. Works.

Dont forget to turn off live view by just press the lv-button (thats why you still get preview even if preview is off).

Quote from: poromaa on April 26, 2014, 01:20:11 PM
Hum. If not using the silent-picture you can just press the live view button to turn off live view. Don't forget to turn off image preview from canon menu. There you go - full resolution timelapse without LCD turning on. I tested this right now with build 24th April. Works.

Dont forget to turn off live view by just press the lv-button (thats why you still get preview even if preview is off).

Yes, but now you are shooting with the shuttermecanism mechanichly activated for each photo, or..?

I want to shoot sequenses for timelapes without moving the mirror for each shot to save the camera from several thousands of movements in the mirror when shooting many timleapse sequenses per week.

Ah, thats unfortunately not possible what I know of (yet?). I have seen that question myself and the common answer here is to buy one of these VAF  filters that holds the mirror up. A cheap alternative is to just tape it.

I once asked for a higher resolution silent picture module, and got the answer that I should develop it :). Apparently it is possible to take higher resolution silent pics by moving the crop window and so covering the whole sensor. There is no implementation of this yet (I made a feature request) but think the developers rather develop fun stuff :) than boring easy stuff. To mention is also the delay of (if I remember correctly) 2 sec between every crop image, which will screw up moving objects (clouds, trees etc). However, if the images overlap this could easily be corrected in post. Don't know about longer shutter times... that might not work very well.

Maybe there are other ways, but I'm no ML developer so...

Quote from: reddeercity on April 25, 2014, 08:00:41 PM
The nightly for Feb16th is the one I use for Paid Work. Rock Solid !
http://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/job/5D2.212/206/artifact/platform/5D2.212/magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2014Feb16.5D2212.zip

I just tested the feb16th against the latest and I don't get much performance difference in MLV-recording w/w.o sound. I just tested one resolution that I know the card can't handle and I get the same amount of frames (within deviation of 2%). The card is a 60MB/s Sandisk which performs very stable in its write-speed.

Testing raw module at max 1856x1044 (the higher resolution is not available to compare against in later builds)

Build 16Feb
Best result (tried different settings etc)
126 frames@1856x1044 (16:9) fps 23.976 (the best out of 10 readings - all between 123-126) - stable

Build 25Apr
Best result (tried different settings etc)
I got one 74 frames - early stop (!) - had global draw on by mistake.
148 frames@1856x1044 (16:9) fps 23.976 (the best out of 10 readings - all between 126-148) not counting early stop

Conclusion: 16th Feb might be more stable, 25th Apr seem faster but gives a bit more unpredictable result.

More: Just tested the MLV + Audio 8khz (for sync) and got stable 126 frames @1856x1044. That is as fast as raw module in 16th feb.

Quote from: poromaa on April 26, 2014, 02:50:50 PM
Maybe there are other ways, but I'm no ML developer so...

For sure, but they require very advanced reverse engineering skills. This one is an unicorn that I know for sure it can be done, but Canon code for sampling the sensor is so complex that it's well beyond my understanding. I'm still researching it, but it can take anywhere between a few days and a few (or maybe more) years, because I'm pretty much clueless about where to start (besides the well-known keywords ADTG, CMOS and ENGIO).

Regarding powersave, it's not the display that eats most of the power, but the sensor in LiveView. And, of course, you need to turn it on in order to take the silent pictures. Sure, it can be optimized, but I doubt the battery savings will be significant for this scenario.

Besides this, powersaving is one of those features that nobody notices when it's completely broken for months (it was not working at all since March 09, and I've fixed it the day before yesterday (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/2a9dc0e15500e0b8023b82df75ebcc03be0b433a), when a related a related issue (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/1969/5d2-interval-liveview-powersave) was reported). I could not find the exact issue reported in the tracker, and from this I can only conclude that nobody will miss this feature if I'll remove it.

Quote from: a1ex on April 26, 2014, 03:25:55 PM
Besides this, powersaving is one of those features that nobody notices when it's completely broken for months (it was not working at all since March 09, and I've fixed it the day before yesterday (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/2a9dc0e15500e0b8023b82df75ebcc03be0b433a), when a related a related issue (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issue/1969/5d2-interval-liveview-powersave) was reported). I could not find the exact issue reported in the tracker, and from this I can only conclude that nobody will miss this feature if I'll remove it.

Users feature requests are often only wanted but never used.
Users also tend to think within the box created for them, solving the wrong problems e.g. suggesting some complicated solution when the goal simply is to get as long photo interval as possible with minimal battery drain.

On the other hand, from a user perspective I only tend know what I need when I need it. I like using the silent pic to save the shutter (this might be my first wrong assumption) and being silent. When using it it feels nice to turn LCD off to save battery (maybe not saving so much then?). Going on a trip this summer I prepare for all the features I will use. Thats why I tested it and reported the error (I am NorthFilm).

I guess the interval with live view OFF is saving more battery (even with mirror moving?) - so then it would probably be better with a solution that just kept the mirror up.

Quote from: poromaa on April 26, 2014, 04:01:08 PM
I am NorthFilm

Haha, cool, I had no idea.

Using a VAF filter will quiet down the mirror, but I doubt it will improve the shutter life (because the shutter blades are still actuated). The mirror is just a thing that moves up and down (don't see how mechanical wear should affect it), but the real action is in moving the shutter blades (where timing is essential, since they determine the exposure time). I believe this method is used to get less rolling shutter artifacts than the fully electronic readout is capable of (look at the rolling shutter in zoom mode to see what I mean).

Silent picture will save the mechanical shutter life, but it's limited in resolution. For nearly static subjects you might even be able to exploit the line skipping property with super-resolution (that is, combine 2 or 3 frames into a higher-resolution one). It's on my list of things to be studied, but it requires some math skills quite a bit above mine. It's pure postprocessing though, no hacking required.

Quote from: Doyle4 on April 26, 2014, 12:53:03 PM
@reddeercity

Thanks for linking ad builds, couldnt find them since we have moved here.

Youre x3 crop mode test's, is that using the feb 16th build?

Yes it was

@reddeercity

Thanks, Feb 16th build seems great from 14th, MLV is super stable for me.

Im unsure about buffers using MLV (used RAW before hand), is the mlv test best to do first? test suggested "0" but iv read to use "1"  sorry for more questions to people.

Quote from: a1ex on April 26, 2014, 04:18:08 PM
The mirror is just a thing that moves up and down (don't see how mechanical wear should affect it), but the real action is in moving the shutter blades (where timing is essential, since they determine the exposure time).

Ah okay, I just assumed they was connected, but of course they aren't.

Quote from: a1ex on April 26, 2014, 04:18:08 PM
For nearly static subjects you might even be able to exploit the line skipping property with super-resolution (that is, combine 2 or 3 frames into a higher-resolution one). It's on my list of things to be studied, but it requires some math skills quite a bit above mine. It's pure postprocessing though, no hacking required.

Interesting. What kind of math are we talking about here? The silent pic resolution is 3,744/3 ≈ 1250 in height? Does that mean 2 pixel of line skipping? So to capture all y pixels you would need 3 pics? Then the same for the skipped pixels at the x-axis? that would give us 3x3 pics = 9 pics to cover whole sensors all pixels?
Is it possible to do 1880x1250 readouts with different offsets? The burst in silent module is quite fast isn't it?

Silent picture burst is simply raw video without cropping and without real-time writing. That code is much simpler, so it's useful in the early stages of porting raw video, or as documentation.

The super-resolution trick would only work hand-held (and it is probably more useful for video). I don't know how to alter the vertical offset. I know how to change the line skipping factor from adtg_gui (it's documented there), but other than some distorted pictures I didn't get anything good out of it so far.

Quote from: Doyle4 on April 27, 2014, 10:50:06 AM
@reddeercity
Thanks, Feb 16th build seems great from 14th, MLV is super stable for me.
Im unsure about buffers using MLV (used RAW before hand), is the mlv test best to do first? test suggested "0" but iv read to use "1"  sorry for more questions to people.

It all depends on your CF card, I use a Lexar 1000x 64, 32GB. I found in Crop Mode to get the needed speed for continuous, Buffer fill rate "0"  78-79MB/s with audio,  In 1:1 "1" is ok unless you use a HDMI device then you need that write speed again .
Some of the cards like the komputerbay's are better at fill rate of "4" as per Ted's test on the first page of this thread.
Also on my one Sandisk Extreme 32GB 90MB/s works better at fill rate of "0".
On smaller frame sizes thou it may not make that much differences, so play a little bit with it  ;)
   

@reddeercity

Thanks for you're time and help, MLV is new to me as i didnt use it in its early stages but now i can see its potential.
buffer "0" seems to work great on my 32gb 1000x Transcend card, shows continuos 1600x900 i think it is @ 16x9, lovely :)

Thanks again,  :D

@Doyle4 , You're Welcome, happy to help. Glad you got it figure out. 

@reddeercity
Hey, when you record raw are you using mlv or the older raw_rec? Either way, do you experience an error within the first minute of recording? When I play back the video in-camera it errors out at about 35 secs into the video and when I convert the mlv file to dng with the .idx file it stops processing at the error point, but if I convert the mlv to dng without using the .idx file it processes the entire file, but drops the 'corrupted' frames, about 4-5 per 60secs of video.

This occurs for me with the Feb 16 and a few of the most recent builds as well on the 5DM2.

Any help would be appreciated, thank you!

Quote from: jimmyD30 on May 01, 2014, 05:26:22 PM
@reddeercity
Hey, when you record raw are you using mlv or the older raw_rec? Either way, do you experience an error within the first minute of recording? When I play back the video in-camera it errors out at about 35 secs into the video and when I convert the mlv file to dng with the .idx file it stops processing at the error point, but if I convert the mlv to dng without using the .idx file it processes the entire file, but drops the 'corrupted' frames, about 4-5 per 60secs of video.
This occurs for me with the Feb 16 and a few of the most recent builds as well on the 5DM2.
Any help would be appreciated, thank you!

I use both ,Feb16th NB --> MLV-v2.0 with or without audio, Oct 24th -->Raw-v1.0, I don't have these problems you describe but there again I don't watching what I just shot  in-camera. I don't even load the picture viewer module, to much of a chance of a failure of errors, I work on the side of caution Always !
I use the "MLVBrowseSharp.exe" to exact my MLV .raw+audio then raw2cdng v1.4.9 (v1.5.0 Beta3 dose not work with Apple Products, Pink for premiere pro)
What CF card are you using? Mybe a bad install of ML ? try formatting with EOSCard.exe program and reinstall , just some thoughts ,double check all setting also.
 

@reddeercity

Thank you for your thoughts. Most of what you suggest I've done, except I didn't realize that MLVBrowserSharp could output raw+audio (figured dng+audio), so I'll try that work flow too.

@g3gg0 thinks maybe the firmware and conversion app are reporting erroneous frame counts, so I'll do some more testing and if the video output looks good, I'll leave it at that.

Hi,

I installed magic lantern nightly build (06/05/2014). Selected MLV recording as per above instructions (didn't choose RAW_REC). When I am trying to shoot, I am getting video with pink tint. I checked my white balance in normal mode, everything looks good. I converted .MLV file to RAW and then to DNG. Am I doing anything wrong? Can anyone please help me with this? Thank you.

Also I am not able to preview video in camera. Please let me know where to look for that option. Thank you in advance.

Quote from: tarakarama on May 06, 2014, 04:33:36 AM
Hi,

I installed magic lantern nightly build (06/05/2014). Selected MLV recording as per above instructions (didn't choose RAW_REC). When I am trying to shoot, I am getting video with pink tint. I checked my white balance in normal mode, everything looks good. I converted .MLV file to RAW and then to DNG. Am I doing anything wrong? Can anyone please help me with this? Thank you.

Also I am not able to preview video in camera. Please let me know where to look for that option. Thank you in advance.

As far as previewing in camera, make sure you load the mlv_play.mo module, even then it may only work for 35 secs or so, but at least you get a glimpse of how it looks.

As far as pink tint, some of the more recent nightlies are messing with black level setting and it might not have been completely worked out yet (I believe this is camera model dependent). As per @reddeercity the the Feb 16 2014 build works well and does not give me pink tint on my 5DM2, but also as per @reddeercity, some mlv converters on some operating systems using certain software may also produce pink tint.

TURN OFF BLACK FIX.  This is causing the pink tint videos on the 5D2. This is found in RAW Video sub menu. I've already mentioned this to devs. Seems like its ON by default.

See https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/484/black-level-fix/diff

(and help by reviewing it)

i have a used 5d mark 2...can someone direct me to a link where the raw build is? thanks

Top of page -> Downloads -> Browse Nightly Builds
And first page of this thread, first post.

With May 8 Nightly, pink tinted frames still result with Black Fix at ON. To those trying out the May 8th Nightly, Turn OFF to prevent Pink tinted video.

Until black-level-fix (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/484/black-level-fix/diff) is merged with unified, all nightlies will have the same black level problems.

I haven't had a chance to do any testing myself (I don't shoot video, so it's a low priority for myself).

And until somebody (other than its authors) reviews the fix, I'm not going to merge it.

If anyone is willing to try bleeding edge code, and possibly brick their camera, I can provide a build for testing, on PM request.

The only condition, please provide feedback to the devs.

Caution to those using sound recording with raw.
Testing latest build May 19 (I think this is the same with builds before and after May 14) and found some problems with audio. Static buzzing would show at random in the WAV file. The dngs are not affected.
Its worse when AGC is ON.

Reporting this behavior here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7122.msg115921#msg115921

If shooting raw with new nightlies, I recommend use separate sound recording until this is fixed.

Can you find out when the problem was introduced? (in what build).

Once you find a way to reproduce the error (even probabilistically, e.g. record 10 seconds with settings XYZ and you get noise in 3 out of 10 attempts), one can run "hg bisect" and identify the changeset.

Ok, I actually did a sort a systematic test so I'll detail my test report method in the mlv thread where I posted the problem first (linked in my post above). This post will just be a heads up to 5d2 users in general.
Link to updated post with test method. http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7122.msg115953#msg115953

I am just using the 5d in normal mode with ML installed and I am unsure about the continuos recording mode ML offers.... I understand I can turn movie restart and when the 4gb buffer is reached the camera will restart..... Will the camera just do that itself? Are there any known issues with this, heat issues etc?

Quote from: rick_ford55 on May 30, 2014, 10:53:17 AM
I am just using the 5d in normal mode with ML installed and I am unsure about the continuos recording mode ML offers.... I understand I can turn movie restart and when the 4gb buffer is reached the camera will restart..... Will the camera just do that itself? Are there any known issues with this, heat issues etc?

Note that while this is automatic, there would still be a approx 1 or less than 1 second gap between the 4gig clips. Heat issues is still the same as with stock firmware.

Quote from: reddeercity on April 28, 2014, 01:09:58 AM
It all depends on your CF card, I use a Lexar 1000x 64, 32GB. I found in Crop Mode to get the needed speed for continuous, Buffer fill rate "0"  78-79MB/s with audio,  In 1:1 "1" is ok unless you use a HDMI device then you need that write speed again .
Some of the cards like the komputerbay's are better at fill rate of "4" as per Ted's test on the first page of this thread.
Also on my one Sandisk Extreme 32GB 90MB/s works better at fill rate of "0".
On smaller frame sizes thou it may not make that much differences, so play a little bit with it  ;)

What's up with all the Failed Build links, I'm going into preproduction all June. Are the most stable builds for 5D 2 still Oct 24 for Raw and Feb 16 build for MLV?

Quote from: dariSSight on June 03, 2014, 08:37:17 AM
What's up with all the Failed Build links

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3072.msg117299#msg117299

Quote from: ted ramasola on May 30, 2014, 03:32:04 PM
Note that while this is automatic, there would still be a approx 1 or less than 1 second gap between the 4gig clips. Heat issues is still the same as with stock firmware.

I have to say that I have recorded tons of footage over the 4 gig limit and never experienced a gap between the 4 gigs. I thought I was seeing skipped frames at a time when watching <4 gig footage in MLRawViewer, but found out that it was only MLRV that jumped to the next file at every 4 gig mark. When merged and exported, there was nothing wrong with the footage.

Hello, does anybody know if there is an update for this link: https://bitbucket.org/a_d_/magic-lantern/downloads/5D2_OSX_raw2dng_ProRes.zip

It's the 5D2_OSX_raw2dng_ProRes app download link from the old '5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit' thread, first post.

Quote from: Kharak on June 03, 2014, 10:05:26 AM
I have to say that I have recorded tons of footage over the 4 gig limit and never experienced a gap between the 4 gigs. I thought I was seeing skipped frames at a time when watching <4 gig footage in MLRawViewer, but found out that it was only MLRV that jumped to the next file at every 4 gig mark. When merged and exported, there was nothing wrong with the footage.

rick_ford55 was inquiring about using it in "normal" mode so I assumed this meant h264. the 1 sec gap I implied to only applies to h264 footage via auto restart. No gap with raw.

Hi all I can't view raw video or anything  in filemanager .. the window is black

Did you remove the lens cap while shooting?

JK, couldn't resist ;-)

Little more info needed, which window is black? File manager while viewing a folder, the video while trying to play it, etc.?

Haha you are funny  ;D

When I hit play the screen goes black.

When I hit play, my screen goes pink :P

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html

Sorry @johnny5D, my bad :-X

Listen, there's a lot of ML experts and of course the devs on this forum that love to help, but they need more info, like ML build version, shooting conditions/settings, logs, etc. and being human beings at times they get tired of repeating themselves about this kind of thing when someone asks for help, but as you can see at least @a1ex is having a little fun about it (I think and hope anyway :-)

I'm not an ML expert or dev, but I am a long-time software engineer and so can relate to this kind of thing.

Okay okay, I do understand that! Some times it's hard to explain things, even more when I don't know te best english to make the problem clear to you my friends.

Here is a video I made of the problem hope this is will light up more:

p.s. sorrie for the bad focus but I think you see the problem I get here.

Load the mlv_play module.

You may want to get it from an older build, until somebody with pattern-matching skills (or tutorial-following skills) finds the missing stubs (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3072.msg117299#msg117299).

Now why did I have a funny feeling it would be that simple ;-)

Thanks for your help... Jimmy why so sarcastic? Instead of been sarcastic your will achieve much more in life when you are willing to help others.

So to me, success means contributing my personal gifts in something that I really love in the best possible way, being of use for others and getting the appropriate reward for that.

Jimmy is telling the truth, and now you deserve a warning ;)

http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#not_losing

@johnny5D

Yes, I was being sarcastic, but I didn't think I was being mean spirited, and that is how I go through life. As far as willing to help others, I'm a successful HS Mathematics Teacher, so I'm usually helping a lot of people most of the time (except in summer ;-) and I use sarcasm all the time in the classroom when it's kinda deserved. But I will admit the big difference is my students, after getting to know me of course, realize I'm not being mean, just making a point with a twist to it. It seems people remember those kind of lessons better than with just another boring lecture.

As I'm sure you will too now :D

Also, the sarcasm wasn't directed at you per se, it's just that many times beginner ML users do overlook basic stuff like loading modules and the solution ends up being very simple.

OMG !
Is it that lengthy and technical to install ML ?
Any easy and short way to it, please ?  :-[

I would suggest something like this:

Quote
Installation:
1) Format the card from the camera.
2) Make sure you are running Canon firmware 2.1.2.
3) Copy ML files (http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/) on the card and run Firmware Update.

Uninstallation:
1) Run Firmware Update from your ML card.
2) Follow the instructions.

(though some people got stuck even with this)

Hi 5D2 owners!

looks like we are left behind (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3072.msg117299#msg117299). As a frequent user of the nightlies, its sad to see that the 5D2 development has stopped. If it is as simple as a1ex say I want to make a try.

Has anyone already started  finding the STUBS (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12177) for 5D2 yet? If so, are you stuck, can I help?

If not, has anyone extracted the ROM1.BIN.strings and ROM1.BIN.dis from the 5D2?

I would really like to take a look at them to begin with.

What has happened to the 5Dmkii Scene? iv tried reading to why it has stopped but its a little confusing, miss A.D's builds and now the nightly's, wish i understood what it is they need..

the last 5dmk3 1.2.3 nightly is also from 23th may??
it has never been such a break since i started with ml

Hello,

I have disassembled the ROM file of my 5D2.212.

@poromaa: I've just opened the ROM1.bin file to find the missing stubs.

I have found FIO_SeekSkipFile at loc_ff9ab050 and (maybe) CancelDateTimer at ff874a74 and SetTimerAfter at ffa6da0c.

I will work on other stubs asap. Thanks Pelican for ROMs.

Newbie here - I have just installed magic lantern on my 5D2 but I can't get the modules tab to appear in order to enable raw video recording. Everything else appears to work as described.
I think I have followed the relevant instructions: switch live view on (after setting to stills + movie and movie display), then click the trash can button to bring up magic lantern... but no modules tab shows up. I have tried reinstalling, loading most recent available build(from nightly) but still no modules.
I have attached a screen shot showing what is on my camera card, and a shot of the back of the camera tabs.
Any pointers much appreciated - I really installed this for the raw video.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19118518/eos.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19118518/5d2_mgLant)

Quote from: jad on June 16, 2014, 12:13:48 AM
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19118518/5d2_mgLant)

That's quite an old build (2012). You'll want to install one from the nightly builds. http://builds.magiclantern.fm

Quote from: nick.p on June 16, 2014, 12:23:35 AM
That's quite an old build (2012). You'll want to install one from the nightly builds. http://builds.magiclantern.fm

Thanks! I've got it working now.

Quote from: Doyle4 on June 14, 2014, 09:20:05 PM
What has happened to the 5Dmkii Scene? iv tried reading to why it has stopped but its a little confusing, miss A.D's builds and now the nightly's, wish i understood what it is they need..

I was asking myself the same question. I have the last build that was working, end of may or something. I'm a little worried as I feel like we were just getting RAW support down.

Fingers crossed. I wish I could do more than just submit log files.

Hi Guys!

I've just pull  a request!

The Stubs for FIO_SeekSkipFile (ff9ab050 or ff9ab784) and CancelDateTimer (ffabd838 or ff2bd838) are straight forward, so I uncommented them to reduce the circle of suspects.
To find the 4 GUI Stubs, I created a Timer Database with two Value Registers and References.

There seems to be two pattern.
1. 0xFF8
2. SetHPTimerAfterNow, SetHPTimerNextTick, SetTimerAfter, CancelTimer (sort Resgisters from small to big)

At the Beginning It's hard to get the SetTimerAfter, 'cause I need to pull battery out and sometimes I got Error 70, only to run the debug test.

SetTimerAfter: After a lot of Try and Error! There are two strong candidates ff86af64 or ff874a74. After that the CancelTimer is much easy. The second hard part to find SetHPTimerAfterNow (ff859638, ff86af64, ff86c7a0, ff86dd88)

So I hope It helps!

Yay, nightly is back!

YES!!!

Thank you A.D!!!! Knew you would come and rescue the Mkii users! Thank you again! and Thank you Alex for putting A.D's finds into Mkii Nightly's!

Build: 2014-06-16 07:15:41 +0100 is up and running guys! ahhhh so relieved!

Thanks A.D./A1ex!

Yes thank you a.d. and a1ex!
You guys rule.

Thank you A.D and Alex, I'm a 5d Mark II user still and i still have the old 5dc body i still use for time laps stuff.
Now, both of these camera's are getting old.

It's sad that Canon doesn't care about their users anymore with firmwares. They sadly aren't bothered about their 5D body...No one has money to spend near £2000 on Camera body to get 1080p, nevermind about the C-series price. 

I have ton of Canon Glass. I feel let down by canon...
It's the ML community that has kept the interest and profits high with great features for video.  :D

LOVE my MKii with ML  :D

Canon... who are they?  :P

I too want to echo what others said.   Thank you A.D and Alex for making my 5D2 sing.

King a.d. is back!

With 5DM2 using July 2 2014 build I can't get the 'show buffer graph' to be visible while recording, but as soon as I press SET to end the recording, then I see the buffer graph.

I have Global Draw on and in MLV record set to Allow, buffer fill method to 1 and Show Buffer Graph on and I set my video resolution and fps settings so that it would not be continuous thinking to force the use of buffers.

Am I missing something? Do I need to enable a debug mode somewhere?

Installed latest nighly build (tried also with earlier versions), loaded raw_rec module and reboot.
The Menu/Modules shows raw_rec OK, but Menu/Movies are all dimmed and no green dot. In Menu/Modules/RAW video shows N/A, but I can set resolution and record.
Just after recording, the green dot lights and showing resolution. But when reboot there is no resolution showing and no green dots. Have to start over again every time.

Here (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5533.msg109036#msg109036) Pravdomil says, "Only two features are remaining (1880 width and  crop marks for GLDraw Off)"

The thing is, Cropmarks for GLDraw Off — is the vital thing for low-end cameras, because GDraw affects the recording speed and you should turn it off, but you virtually can't record without proper framing.
This is the reason why some of the users can't use the nightly builds, since this feature not implemented (yet?)

I'd like to implement it in my own builds, but can't find the needed commit.
Can you please point me to the corresponding lines in your code, which affects this behaviour?

An old trick I've been considering for using with 3x crop mode (because of the delay/stutter) is to tape off the LCD where the crop marks should be, but it would be a bit of a pain if you need to change aspect ratio frequently.

Quote from: Rewind on July 09, 2014, 08:55:30 AM
Here (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5533.msg109036#msg109036) Pravdomil says, "Only two features are remaining (1880 width and  crop marks for GLDraw Off)"

Correct Cropmarks with Global Draw off would be killer!

And just having cropmarks work properly even with GLdraw ON would be awesome too. It was a rarity for me to have the cropmarks appear.

Do you guys think it will ever be possible to shoot at 50fps?
I want to do some true slow mo stuff and don't want to have to upgrade to the 6D or MKIII.

I shoot skateboard videos and really need to be able to shoot in high frame rates.

Quote from: sleepinghouse on July 12, 2014, 03:31:30 PM
Do you guys think it will ever be possible to shoot at 50fps?
I want to do some true slow mo stuff and don't want to have to upgrade to the 6D or MKIII.

I shoot skateboard videos and really need to be able to shoot in high frame rates.

I don't think so on the 5DM2, probably because it can only shoot max 30fps natively, so might not have the internal clocks/timers needed to do 50/60fps. As far as CF card throughput capability, theoretically it could shoot higher frame rates at lower resolutions as there exists an inverse relationship between the two in this regard.

Canon showed the mkii shooting 50/60fps, was going to be in a update few years back but was pulled out, main reason was the full frame sensor not been able to stay cool, new models like the mkiii with full frame have been designed to have the sensor t have more breathing space.. must be other reasons too, if you dont want to spend too much money i recommend the GoPro 3+ Black, loooove mine! hopefully one day ML will run on it :P

Quote from: jimmyD30 on July 13, 2014, 12:42:19 AM
I don't think so on the 5DM2, probably because it can only shoot max 30fps natively, so might not have the internal clocks/timers needed to do 50/60fps. As far as CF card throughput capability, theoretically it could shoot higher frame rates at lower resolutions as there exists an inverse relationship between the two in this regard.

Thank you JimmyD30. I just have seen the changing frame rates but never tried it.
Do you think 60fps at 720 is possible? I would do that.

Quote from: Doyle4 on July 14, 2014, 10:52:28 AM
Canon showed the mkii shooting 50/60fps, was going to be in a update few years back but was pulled out, main reason was the full frame sensor not been able to stay cool, new models like the mkiii with full frame have been designed to have the sensor t have more breathing space.. must be other reasons too, if you dont want to spend too much money i recommend the GoPro 3+ Black, loooove mine! hopefully one day ML will run on it :P

Sigh, the sensor. Nothing magic lantern can do about that. I might be looking into other cameras to shoot higher frame rates. I never thought I would get a GoPro, but I might be at that point.

I haven't used my 5DM2 in a while, but if I remember correctly the highest frame rate available in the ML settings was 35fps.

Quote from: sleepinghouse on July 21, 2014, 08:20:54 AMSigh, the sensor. Nothing magic lantern can do about that. I might be looking into other cameras to shoot higher frame rates. I never thought I would get a GoPro, but I might be at that point.

I have a GoPro Hero 3+ Black, i shoot using Protune (Flat profile with exposure/iso/white balance/sharpness control) which allows for a pretty decent professional grading, when i first shot with it i was upset as my footage looked nothing like GoPro's vids that are out there, but bit of research i found their workflow, they shoot most of their footage @48fps also but place it into a 24fps timeline, when shooting at 24fps the outside of the footage is blurry if doing like POV riding shots, changing to 48fps i noticed a huge difference. ACR now has GoPro Lens profiles too which is nice!

EDIT: Frame rates are if interested. 1080p @24/25/30/48/60  720p @same as 1080p but 720p allows for 120fps! upscales nice to 1080p if using protune mode.

Quote from: Robbe on July 05, 2014, 04:17:40 PM
Installed latest nighly build (tried also with earlier versions), loaded raw_rec module and reboot.
The Menu/Modules shows raw_rec OK, but Menu/Movies are all dimmed and no green dot. In Menu/Modules/RAW video shows N/A, but I can set resolution and record.
Just after recording, the green dot lights and showing resolution. But when reboot there is no resolution showing and no green dots. Have to start over again every time.

Only me having this problem with Canon 5D mark2?

Yes.

Yes.

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html

;)

;)

Hi A1ex and all you guys,

First of all let me thank A1ex and the other contributers for a very nice piece of software. ML is reason enough to choose Canon before any other camera brand!

I have been using ML stable release 2.3 for a few years now, first on 50D and now on 5D2.
I am experimenting with astro and daily timelapse  and got interested in the nightly builds with shutterless picture capture. I am experimenting with nightly build: Nightly.2014Aug02.5D2212.

I have issues using the silent picture function with intervalometer ( set: 1pic/sec, silent picture: simple)
It records around 122-137 pictures in DNG and than stops. I tried several times and they all stop around these picture rates. I had a few times err30 and needed to take out the battery.

The second issue I get is a few black pictures with some green zones in the batch.

I have not found others with this issue on the forum (although there is very much information on it and I have not read all ;-)) am I doing something wrong?

I want to make timelapses with around 1pic/sec, 300+ pictures in DNG format, that must not be hard on the camera processor.

Any ideas?

Quote from: Supersurfer on August 04, 2014, 03:29:12 PM

The second issue I get is a few black pictures with some green zones in the batch.

I have not found others with this issue on the forum

Actually I have mentioned about the black frames few time.  an example  here  http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12828.msg124453#msg124453

problem is I can't figure how to make it repeatable so developer can replicate the problem

Hi barepixels,

I got the black pictures ( with green zones) several times and mosly at the end of a sequence when it stops/crashes.

I am not using ettr, only silent picture and intervalometer.

Can anyone here build latest nightly (7th Aug) with the Full Res Silent Pic module at all please? would love too give this a go :)

Check here there a aug 6th built with full res silent
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12891.msg124783#msg124783
I have tried it, work well so far did 240 frames @ 1sec interval saved as .raw format.

Thanks reddeercity! Will give this a try,

Is the 6th Aug build better than 8th? im pretty happy so far with 8th Aug.

Do i need mk11174's tweaked Silent.mo that is mentioned few lines down?.

Is fullres known for been buggy? im presuming so as its not in nightly's,

Do you know how to stop it taking pics when doing timelapse? i pressed every button and it wouldnt stop.. had it set to 1pic every second, take a pic to start.

CrashLog:
ASSERT: NextLvYuvArea != NOT_ALLOC
at SrmActionMemory.c:1279, task RscMgr
lv:0 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2014Aug06.5D2212
Mercurial changeset   : 81a2fd653497+ (fullres-silent-pics) tip
Built on 2014-08-06 16:03:21 UTC by mathew@mathewubuntu64.
Free Memory  : 128K + 3963K

Yes I found it to be buggy, there is other silent module in that thread.
No it not in the nighty its sound like it my be there very soon thou.
I have only tried it once and yes I had a problem stopping the time lapse.
Just have to work with it and find the optimum  setting , but I like the possibility 
it presents for video projects , 5.7k time lapse very nice indeed . :)

Thanks reddeercity,

its a really nice feature!, be interesting  to see later on if FullSilent could be used for 4K H264, who knows haha.
going o have a play with the build you posted and the tweaked module on there, see what works best. :)

When I go to the nightly builds section nothing appears. It just says "Select a Platform", I assume it is a problem on my end, correct? Should I just go with the July 23 stable version?

Am I missing something?

Thanks!

Got it, I tried in IE.. Chrome/Mozilla wouldn't work.

Should work on Chrome buddy as thats what i use.  ::)

I use Firefox (Mozilla) with no problems, maybe you have JavaScript turned off or something?

Testing out the Nightly.2014Sep01.5D2212  build for a Sporting event tomorrow I need to cover.
every think recorded ok with MLV+Audio  but when I did a format in Camera I lost Every thing off the Card
including ML. This has been  a problem that has come up in the past .
I have to format with EOScard and reinstall ML.
I Go back to my trusty feb build for now, as I can't have any failures tomorrow.
So be careful with that function .

@reddeercity

Thanks for heads up on that, im running 20th Aug and all seems nice and stable, iv tried the format and didn't lose ML.

Thanks for the heads up @reddeercity and @Doyle4
I shot a couple of project this summer and I used the Feb 15 build and it worked well for me. I will be filming soon a music video and a pilot for a drama series, so I will do some pre-production test with this Aug 20 build to check for its stability. Is the Aug 20 build better then Oct 24 RAW or Feb 15 MLV Build, for me the best build is Oct 24 because you should never sacrifice pixel if you can. It's hard to explain to most people 2K and 4K is irrelevant if your not watching a 200 inch screen or Multiplex IMAX theater screen. Pixel equal Sharpness, Dynamic Range equal low light variation and Color Space equal RGB calibration. So the question after beating the human eye in distinguishing pixel, the only question remains is how are you processing the image? 1920x1080 is a large enough image that it will retain native sharpness to the image, Dynamic Range is up kept by having control of Raw image or lightning technique and, finally Color Space is the RGB up keep is determine on your colorist bit rate process that resembles x.v.YCC' colour specification. But I could be wrong so please anyone tell me why would 2K or 4K be so better then 1080p on 60, 70, 80 or 100 inch screen?

The modules tab is not showing for the latest nightly build (sept. 1).  Is this happening to anyone else?

Delete AUTOEXEC.BIN and ML directory from card. Copy extracted files (AUTOEXEC.BIN + ML directory) to card. Try again.

any suggestion about the most stable release or I can use the last nightly without any fear?

most stable is 2.3 (available on main page)

Quote from: reddeercity on September 06, 2014, 12:09:35 AM
Testing out the Nightly.2014Sep01.5D2212  build for a Sporting event tomorrow I need to cover.
every think recorded ok with MLV+Audio  but when I did a format in Camera I lost Every thing off the Card
including ML. This has been  a problem that has come up in the past .
I have to format with EOScard and reinstall ML.
I Go back to my trusty feb build for now, as I can't have any failures tomorrow.
So be careful with that function .

Hi reddeercity, I´ve got your very valuable help before so maybe I can now bring my two cents here.

I´ve found that after recording RAW, if I immediately try to format the card without restarting the camera, the two following issues come up:

1st Before formatting the card, the actual GB left on the camera showed in the format menu seems wrong, as it was nothing recorded before coming to the format menu.
2nd After formatting, all information in the card is lost including Magic Lantern as it happened to you, and you need to reinstall ML in the card from scratch.

The solution I´ve found for this issue is to always restart the camera after recording RAW if I need to format the card.

After restarting you will also find that the actual GB left on the card, that is showed in the format menu, is ok.

First time it happened I got really scared as I thought my new 32GB card was fried!

So maybe it is not a nightly build problem.

Hope you found it useful.

Hi All,
First post and I apologies completely if I screw up on any forum traditions or rules!
I just bought a 5D Mkii that has Magic Lantern installed from ebay (it's not even here yet!) but the main thing I bought it for was video.
Could any of you tell me, with Magic Lantern installed, what the longest I can record video for (at 25fps in HD quality) without having to press record etc again is?
I'm aware that there is a short time limit without ML installed but I can't seem to find info about whether ML lifts that limit on the 5Dmkii?

I don't mind if it's broken into multiple files, I just need a long record time! I record multi cam concert shoots and I want to use the 5D mkii as the locked off wide shot from the rear so I can't go and restart it.

I've been using a 550D for s few years from the stage wings (I generally host the shows) and I love how DSLR footage looks compared to the camcorders that are getting the other shots but I can manually restart the camera I'm holding every 12 minutes ok. Rear lock off needs to be able to do at least an hour without being touched. Any way the 5D Mkii (with ML) can manage that?
Many Thanks for any help or advice you can offer.
Gareth

Hi guys
Ive just installed ML on my 5Dmk2, followed the basic guidelines for shooting Raw,
converted it to DNG, and the first thing that strikes me is the severe stair-stepp of the footage,
rendering it unusabale.
Ive searched this forum and couldnt find anything,
maybe Im missing some workflow?
Thanks

That's called aliasing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliasing). It's a result of the line skipping that the sensor does in video mode. You can record in 1:1 'crop' mode (press the zoom in button) to avoid this effect, though your FOV will be smaller.

So whats the point of all this RAW thing if its flawed like that? I don't get it. Why are people shooting like this? would've been nice though if it wasn't that broken.

Canon's H.264 implementation = Stretched from liveview resolution, compressed, noise reduction added, sharpened, 8 bit colour depth, IPB instead of ALL-I (not all cams). And no control how it is done for most of above.
MLV/RAW = RAW, simply RAW with liveview resolution or cropped. With all shortcomings. But RAW. Insane data rates. But RAW. Every frame in RAW.

Quote from: itaibachar on October 15, 2014, 07:42:27 PM
So whats the point of all this RAW thing if its flawed like that?

Other cameras (like 5D3) don't have this effect, because they don't do line skipping. You can purchase an optical filter to get rid of it, or you can shoot in 'crop' mode, or you can use a better demosaicing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demosaicing) algorithm that is better at handling aliasing (you didn't mention what software you used to open the DNG). The amount of aliasing depends on the scene too. Perhaps your scene exhibited some bad aliasing, but that doesn't mean all scenes will be as bad.

I can't get my 5d2 to record above 21MB/s,even on lexar 1000 or sandisk 90MB/s card?
What can be the problem,i can upload benchmark,just say how?

Hey dmilligan
I used Resolve 11 and Photoshop, just to double check this.
What are the better demosaic software?
Crop mode is not a viable option for me.

Walter Schulz (how do you guys quote here?..)
I know h264 is @#$%.
I know raw is best, this is why ML is great,
but I geuss the 5dmk2 isnt the body for raw video.

Quotebut I geuss the 5dmk2 isnt the body for raw video

Not So,  Why do you think this?

I use my 5D2 for paid work since June 2013 with raw video , the  aliasing problem is not really a problem.
I would say maybe less than 5% of the video content  is effected by aliasing.(depending on subject matter)
I shoot New Stories/Documentary/Music green screen videos.
There is a few thinks you can do to minimizes or eliminate the issue .
Film in 3x Crop mode.( I do this 30% of the time)
Use Fast High Quality Prime lens (e.g. f1.4) , set aperture to f8 or around there to reduce the depth
of field a bit . ETTR (expose to the right) to almost high blow outs and in extreme circumstances
run the focus a touch soft.
Post processing also play in a big part, some program can make the raw footage look like crap
if you haven't master the whole workflow from filming to finish product you will always have poor results.
Ever Camera that Magic Lantern runs on can product amazing Raw Video Images ! (Line Skipping or Not) just each camera has a Sweet Spot
that you need to find, It Not for the light of heart , It take work and dedication.

reddeercity
Thanks for the explanation, I dont have the time to put into solving this problem,
cheers

Quote from: reddeercity on October 16, 2014, 05:03:15 AM

Post processing also play in a big part, some program can make the raw footage look like crap
if you haven't master the whole workflow from filming to finish product you will always have poor results.

Some of the 5D2 RAW video I've seen is amazing! Can't wait to get started!
What is the workflow you like best? Any to stay away from? Any online tutorials you recommend?
I'm a bit surprised that lynda.com doesn't have one.

Quote from: Lasting Image on October 16, 2014, 04:16:48 PM
Some of the 5D2 RAW video I've seen is amazing! Can't wait to get started!
What is the workflow you like best? Any to stay away from? Any online tutorials you recommend?

For my paid work and because i need a fast turn around time, i choose two workflow .
First i use the Raw-->Cdng-->After Effect-ACR plugin-->(ProRes4444 XQ .Mov file. If on a Mac)(don't upscale)
With this workflow you basically Pre-Grading the linear 16bit Cdng RGGB to RGBA 12 or 16 bit ProRes .Mov
in Legal Video Color space then final grade with other apps.

#2 Raw-->raw2cdng(Cdng)---> import --> Final Cut ProX as a compound clip,
Or import--> Premiere Pro CC 2014 as a image sequences with audio.

I'm find the Apple FCPX workflow to be very good,  its my #1 workflow

I personally don't like blackmagic resolve as it dose not handle Raw very well at least for the 5D2 
There is no proper raw image adjustment like ACR (high light recovery etc...) it good for the last step in final grade
But i use FCPX 10.1.3 for my final grade or Autodesk smoke for mac (Professional high end NLE/VFX/Grading app)
You can check out some of my video tutorials , they are a little date now , but i plan on updating them very soon.
http://vimeo.com/home/myvideos/sort:date/format:video
http://www.youtube.com/user/RedDeerCityTV/videos
i hope this helps  :)

Thanks reddearcity!  I'll take a look at all the options you mention.

I'm having a lot of black frame/bad frame (nothing irreparable but still present) with a build taken from here a few weeks ago. Is there a date that I could use as a stable release? :)

edit: is srm job memory useful if my card are fast enough and don't fill the buffer? Could it be the cause of any problems?

Quote from: togg on October 20, 2014, 10:54:56 PM
I'm having a lot of black frame/bad frame (nothing irreparable but still present) with a build taken from here a few weeks ago. Is there a date that I could use as a stable release? :)

I use Feb15th nighty build , no problem to speck of  very solid build all around with HDMI etc....
If you PM i will give the link to this build as ML dose not what this build public any more.
I use this build for paid work,  ;)

Not public?
Go to https://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/job/5D2.212/
and go for "more" to access
https://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/job/5D2.212/205/

Never new there was a link to all nighty builds, My mistake .
In that case,  this Is the one I use.
https://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/job/5D2.212/206/artifact/platform/5D2.212/magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2014Feb16.5D2212.zip

Quote from: togg on October 20, 2014, 10:54:56 PM
edit: is srm job memory useful if my card are fast enough and don't fill the buffer? Could it be the cause of any problems?

The srm job memory really doesn't increase speed a whole bunch on fast CF Cards at least I didn't notice with Lexar 1000x
but I don't think srm job memory would cause a problem , I haven't tested it out completely thou .

If you find any regression, please point it. I'm not aware of any.

I need 4 volunteers with 5D2 to perform the following test:
- start your camera in M mode
- clear all ML settings (Prefs -> Config files -> Restore ML defaults) and reboot
- clear all Canon settings and custom functions, then reboot
- format your card from the camera, keep ML, and reboot
- remove the card from the camera, place it in the card reader
- send me ROM0.BIN and ROM1.BIN from ML/LOGS by PM (do not post them here!)

(I'm trying to reflash a bricked 5D2, and need to figure out which parts are calibration data and which parts are regular settings)

I've filmed today with the last nightly and not srm, I will see if bad frame are still present.

edit: sadly they're. Maybe it's my camera, I don't know, but for now I'm coming back to 63b2f145cb3b, Feb14th build. I'll let you know.

Nobody else is having these problems? https://www.mediafire.com/?3suld2o568dhoxu

Quote from: togg on October 21, 2014, 02:51:29 PM
I've filmed today with the last nightly and not srm, I will see if bad frame are still present.
Nobody else is having these problems?

Downloaded the DNG and had a look.
I use to see this early in the Raw Video development , It was related to write speed to the card.
Specially on slower cards , I think I had problems on 60MB/s & 90MB/s Sandisk Extreme CF cards.
But never had a problem with the 1000x cards Since June of last year.

Maybe check the frame rate and the frame override, check your setting in general,
You shouldn't be getting corrupted frames like that.
What are you Setting ? CF Card ?
What happen at lower frame resolution, e.g. 1856x928 ? instead of 1856x1004

Quote from: a1ex on October 21, 2014, 09:46:21 AM
I need 4 volunteers with 5D2 to perform the following test:
- start your camera in M mode
- clear all ML settings (Prefs -> Config files -> Restore ML defaults) and reboot
- clear all Canon settings and custom functions, then reboot
- format your card from the camera, keep ML, and reboot
- remove the card from the camera, place it in the card reader
- send me ROM0.BIN and ROM1.BIN from ML/LOGS by PM (do not post them here!)

(I'm trying to reflash a bricked 5D2, and need to figure out which parts are calibration data and which parts are regular settings)

I can help out, for the Canon setting , you want factory default setting ?

Yes, I'm looking for Canon's factory defaults.

@reddercity Thanks fo your help!
My cf cards seems to be working well, they're 1000X KomputerBay with stable speed. I don't use frame override, just standard 23.98. I've not tried lower resolutions because I can't use such a frame, it's too little for me. Saturday I will film again, I hope I will have time to test different build before that but I'm not sure.

Ok I'm testing and testing and testing and it seems that the problems is an app that I'm using to convert the raw files (MlRawViewer. No build or hardware problem.

@a1ex I sent a pm with the rom files with a link to my drop box if you still need the files.
I performed the test as requested .

Thanks, downloaded.

I've also received a set from hanatos, so I need two more ROM dumps.

@a1ex I've just sent my PM ROM Dumps to you via Dropbox link, let me know if you have any problem accessing  them. Thanks

Hi,

I use the 24 oct 2013 build - Raw rec. I d like to shoot in 3X mode : So i press one time zoom button and the framing is accurate ( with ML greyscale ). But when i press REC, it go to 5X mode ( so bad for framing ). My question is : Is it possible to shoot in 3X mode with accurate framing with the recent nightly build ?

Thanks, and thanks very much for this wonderfull program !

No.

Yes,  press the half shutter button  while in auto preview mode (Gray Scale)
While recording Raw, this well give you a color preview.
With correct framing up to 2k

I have not been able to find a 'stable' release on the web site. I can find the nightly builds, but not the 2.3 release which has been described as stable. Can someone please provide a link?

Thanks in advance.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3072.msg132603#msg132603

Thanks! That clears things up a ton!

QuoteYes,  press the half shutter button  while in auto preview mode (Gray Scale)
While recording Raw, this well give you a color preview.
With correct framing up to 2k

I press Rec button (the image go from 3x to 5x) and then i press half shutter, the image stay in 5x but become pink.

When I first press half shutter and then press REC button, nothing happen.

So maybe the realease of 24oct do not handle this feature ?

I'll check it out, i mainly use the MLV so it my be that .
You still get 2K & audio with mlv have you tried it ?
I posted the build i use a few pages back , mind you the frames are  more limited
with mlv then raw , developer are working on MLVFS - Magic Lantern Video File System.
Look very promising , i look forward in testing the workflow in my next project .

ok, i have tested "magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2014Feb16.5D2212" that you post, but still the same ( i try with MLV )

I think it's not possible to have good framing while recording in 3X mode. But maybe i'm missing something, so if you ever get there, I would appreciate you sharing the solution :)

in all cases, thank you

ok i achieve to frame in 3x while recording with the realease of 16 FEB, but impossible to have more than 1 FPS at the 5d screen, so it's hard to get accurate

Little question. What is the maximum resolution that you were able to shoot in mlv and with which options? With raw v1 I can have stable 1856X1004 with all my cards even the one that is a little bit slower.

Hi there, folks.  I am just discovering this wonderful option from MagicLantern and want to make sure I will be able to implement everything properly before running the firmware on my 5Dii.  Please accept my apologies if I have posted this in the wrong place or am asking questions that have already been answered elsewhere.  Any help would be much appreciated! 

I do not have a USB3 port.  My computers are two pre-2010 laptops and a mid 2012 Mac Pro.  I use the Lexar FireWire 800 reader.  Does this already make the upgrade something I should avoid? 

As well, I have been researching which CF to get... What is the difference between the Lexar 1000x and Lexar 1066x?  The price is lower on the 1066, so I wonder if there is something different about this card that would not work with MagicLantern raw? 

The resolution of the movie is lower than if I use standard Canon firmware.  How does that work?  Is there not a loss in quality when the resolution is scaled up ever-so-slightly in post?   

I am an audio visual artist and shoot experimental videos.  A friend of mine who color grades for a living mentioned that the only thing he'd change about my output would be the camera, to avoid the h264. 5D-ness that has become a part of my work.  I agree with him. I really don't dig the glowing reds and in post there is only so much that can be done to grade the image.  Would this firmware update be a good solution?  I worry when reading about corrupt frames, etc...

Please use the search , all your answers are there.

@reddeercity what build are you using on your mk2 :) is everything form AD build you mentioned as being the fastest ported to main ML build.  Thanks

Quote from: edingacic on December 02, 2014, 04:23:45 PM
@reddeercity what build are you using on your mk2

I use Raw v2.0 (MLV) build from feb 16/'14 (as I need the 1872 resolutions plus audio) The latest nightly build , max resolutions in 1:1 is 1856 .

Quote from: edingacic on December 02, 2014, 04:23:45 PM
is everything form AD build you mentioned as being the fastest ported to main ML build.  Thanks

Mostly Yes , but lost a few "5D2 Only" features (white line rectangle frame for crop marks) & resolution (1880), some HDMI features .

@fredoviola

I'm a noob here and have only just started shooting ML, but I'm in the same boat trying to get my head around all this stuff and get more involved so will attempt to answer these Qs based on my limited understanding, so please take them with a pinch of salt!

Quote from: fredoviola on November 22, 2014, 05:14:25 PM
I do not have a USB3 port.  My computers are two pre-2010 laptops and a mid 2012 Mac Pro.  I use the Lexar FireWire 800 reader.  Does this already make the upgrade something I should avoid? 

The process needs a high speed 1000x card which you are meant to run with an UDMA7 compatible card reader which is where the USB3 card reader comes in. Because of the high data rates involved, USB3.0 seems the safest bet.

Quote from: fredoviola on November 22, 2014, 05:14:25 PM
As well, I have been researching which CF to get... What is the difference between the Lexar 1000x and Lexar 1066x?  The price is lower on the 1066, so I wonder if there is something different about this card that would not work with MagicLantern raw? 

Anything 1000+ is supposedly OK. Price doesn't necessarily equate to quality. The lexar cards seem vastly more expensive than the Komputer Bay cards that a lot of people here seem to use.

Quote from: fredoviola on November 22, 2014, 05:14:25 PM
The resolution of the movie is lower than if I use standard Canon firmware.  How does that work?  Is there not a loss in quality when the resolution is scaled up ever-so-slightly in post?

The frame height and width are lower but the bit rate and bit depth are much, much higher, so even after you upscale you will still have tons more data in the RAW image than you would in canon's true 1080p h264. The h264 footage also has a list of things applied to it which are seemingly undesirable.

Quote from: fredoviola on November 22, 2014, 05:14:25 PM
I am an audio visual artist and shoot experimental videos.  A friend of mine who color grades for a living mentioned that the only thing he'd change about my output would be the camera, to avoid the h264. 5D-ness that has become a part of my work.  I agree with him. I really don't dig the glowing reds and in post there is only so much that can be done to grade the image.  Would this firmware update be a good solution?  I worry when reading about corrupt frames, etc...

ML is a whole new way of working so it'll take some time to adjust to it, I'm basically having to relearn everything I've learnt shooting on 5D/7D for the last few years. But yes, you would have vastly more colour information for grading.
Seems like people with corrupt frames, etc. are in the minority and usually haven't for the correct settings or the latest build.

This forum has so much information and it's all so tech-y that it's a bit of a struggle for me.

I have a Q:

I thought I'd try recording at 35fps to see if it's of much use as slo-mo, but when I change the desired frame rate to 35, the actual frame rate only changes to 27.17fps. Does this only work with certain other settings?

Hello everyone
   I hope I am posting this issue in the right place.
My 5D2 with magic lantern for 2.1.2 stable version went mad during the last weekend.
I was taking holiday pictures both in jpeg and raw. Done before, no problems there.
Until, half way of the first day (out of 3 days out shooting without having the chance of connecting to a computer) all the photos disappeared.

I continued using the camera and all the photos taken after the problem made it home safely. Those taken before turned into this (see picture in link)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxMhN5xHDaQVYlU3T01lV0dNdGs/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxMhN5xHDaQVYlU3T01lV0dNdGs/view?usp=sharing)

The files are all there, but corrupted, or to better say, encoded with some ML language. In fact every file has a random size from few to hundreds GBs.

What could have happened? I'm always very careful in switching the camera on and off, or opening the CF card slot, or taking the battery out.

and most of all, DOES ANYONE (forum members or developers) have a clue what could have caused the issue or how to recover those images, if possible at all?

Thank you for your help and this space to share our problems.
Alex

This thread mainly deals with Raw Video related issues , General Chat --> http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=26.0
may be a better place.
But if you tell use more about your camera setting, ML Nightly Build date (if use )
Transfer file but tether cable usb or Card reader ?
CF card speed ?
We could help more , But as a 5D2 user with magic lantern installed for the last Year and a Half I never seen this issue .
Are you Just using the stable release version with out nightly builds ?

Looks like there was some problem with the filesystem. I recommend formatting your card from the camera before each important shoot.

I had this error on 550D, before installing ML.

@reddeercity: General Help Q&A is a much better place; General Chat is fine for offtopic stuff. For RAW video, this is the proper place to discuss things: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=49.0

(FYI, ML is not only about RAW recording)

Thank you all for the interest.
  So, I'm using the stable version of ML for 2.1.2 firmware. I copy my files with a card reader. I've been using ML for 6 or 7 months now and never had this issue before. Even if I haven't been using this CF card for photography before (plenty of times for video, though). It's a PNY 100Mbps 32Gb UMDA 7.
What's funny is that the photos where there all the time until photo number 120 (ish) that made the error happen and all the other photos previously taken transformed into those unreadable files. No, i didn't switch the camera off too quickly or remove the card or anything like that. I understand how the camera or the card could mess up one picture, but i don't understand how can all the previous ones (and not the following 300) be compromised.
I'll repost the issue on the General Help Q&A.
Thank you very much.

Alex

5D2, 2.1.2/ML Latest nightly build, two different 32GB 1066x cards, one KomputerBay. one Lexar.
Canon system software clean load with both cards.
ExFat format and erase.
Card reformatted in camera each time.
Write speeds 89/109.
Read speeds 86/108.
Not consistant both cards.
Followed ML instructions thoroughly.
Zoom, Half Shutter and or Focus Ring. Focus Ring by itself also.
Focus box intermittenty appears. mostly not.
Raw video recorded plays back in SloMo, With wave like screen updates.
Payback image has a wave and update the bottom of the screen, then the top of the LCD.
Ml Functions intermitent.
Canon system seems to work fine.

Don't reformat card in cam or you will loose ExFAT.
Just copy ML nightly contents to card, insert into cam and start firmware update.
Post results.

Card reader used, tried ExFat with no format several times in camera. Same results.
Canon does not have write speed data for reference.
KomputerBay was sent Benchmark files.
They stated they had never senn speeds like this and suggested that
the card was corrupt, Bought Lexar, same result.

SloMo in replay is expected. Processor performance insufficient and nothing you can do about it.

SloMo was never explained as a normal condition, makes sense.
Do you have the same LCD playback issues? LCD updates look wavy in playback but the files survive?

Thanks you guys...

Playback does not look normal in camera, it is slow, low resolution and "wavy" as you say. This limitation is due to CPU speed. Canon playback is done via dedicated hardware that we either can't use for our purposes or don't know how to fully utilize, so we are limited to using the CPU for playback, which is incredibly slow.

RAW video playback is actually incredibly computationally intensive, so much so that even  a high end desktop CPU would have trouble. Realtime playback is typically achieved using GPU acceleration.

Got it.
Thanks.
Makes complete sense.

Hi

Is there a thread for Magic Zoom?
In my MkII the focus box does not appear.
Magic Zoom is Grey in the menu.

If the menu is greyed out, does it say something at the bottom?

Hi
This is what the display reads at the bottom.

Zoom Box for checking focus. Can be used while recording.
Press INFO (outside Magic Lantern menu) to turn Canon displays off.

Thanks for the reply...

Did you try doing what it says?

Hi

I believe so.
It was working via Focus Ring and
Half-shutter.
What should I do?

Thanks, Gary

You need to provide more information about your settings, what exactly you're trying to do (video? raw video? photo?), what exactly you've already tried that didn't work, it's impossible to troubleshoot from your very sparse description.

I have just upgraded to the Latest Nightly Build.  I was using the original 2.3 but after the upgrade, the help file does not display whenever I press the INFO button. Am I missing something?  Thanks!

Sure. You missed to read the text above "Browse Nightly Builds" button.

My bad... missed that. Thanks!

Copied the original help files (2.3 stable release) to the nightly build by creating a DOC folder under ML and it works for old features.  I oftentimes still need to browse the instructions some of the original ML 2.3 features.  It works like a charm. :)

Understood,
I'm shooting Video and stills. Want to shoot RAW.
Lexar 32Gig/10666x.
Have used the setup in the Forum for 5DmKII Raw, and two other templates I found on-line.
Everything works but the Focus Box. Tried Focus Box Tweeks, Global Draw is on. Live view, Movie and Stills.
Manual and Auto and P.
Always followed the installation instructions.
Thinking about doing a Reinstall of Canon 2.1.2 and a clean install of ML.
Thanks for your patience and knowledge.

Sorry, unable to understand what your problem is.
First: Which ML version you are using? You find this info when in Help tab at the bottom.
If ML is up and running: There is no use reinstalling.
What are "Focus box tweeks"? Do not understand the term. You may use snapshot function in Debug tab to show which option you're referring to

Are you able to take a video about what you are trying to do? Smartphone will do.

Hi
Typo.
Focus Box Tweaks.
Optional settings in the ML Menu.
Have it operating now.
Combination of Focus Box Tweaks pulled the Focus Box up.
Thanks for your help and knowledge
Have to go save the settings, thanks again
Gary

Focus Box Setting, LV Tweaks...My Bad.
Thanks Again, Gary

Focus Peak must be on in my Camera to access the Focus Box.
Shoots RAW fine. Lexar card is much better than Komputer Bay 32Gig 1066x
Haven't run Read and Write speeds yet on this set of parameters.
Newb appreciates your patience and knowledge.
Thanks again

Hi guys
Im shooting lots of bracketed panos, with the live view, and i cant find how to disable the image review after each shot.
Ive disabled it in the Canon menu, and in ML's image review menu, but using ML bracketing with Live View, it keeps displaying it, slowing the process.

Thanks
Itai

Hi all, Just Got my new Lexar 1066X 64 GB Card a few days ago just did some test resolutions, From my 5D2
Conclusion, its very fast compared to my other Lexar 1000x cards special with Original Raw ver. 1.0

Test results below :

MLV ver. 2.0 feb 16th 2014 Nightly Build

Non Crop:
1872x936 23.976p 70.1 MB/s Continuous

Crop Mode:
1856x1004 23.976p 74.5 MB/s 57 seconds 1367frames
1920x960  23.976p 73.7 MB/s 2:00 minute
1920x1038 23.976p 79.7 MB/s 21 seconds 500 Frames
2048x930  23.976p 76.2 MB/s 55 seconds 1290 frames
2048x872  23.976p 71.4 MB/s continuous

Original Raw ver. 1.0 -Oct 24th 2013 Nightly Build

Non Crop:
1880x940  23.976p  74.9 MB/s Continuous
1856x1004 23.976p  74.7 MB/s Continuous
1872x1012 23.976p  75.8 MB/s Continuous
1880x1016 23.976p  76.4 MB/s Continuous
1880x1058 23.976p  79.5 MB/s 1788 Frames 1:15
1872x1054 23.976p  78.9 MB/s 2165 Frames 1:30

Crop Mode:
1920x1038 23.976p  79.9 MB/s Continuous
2048x930  23.976p  78.6 MB/s Continuous :)
2048x1024 23.976p  83.9 MB/s 1254 :52
2048x1076 23.976p  88.1 MB/s 568  :24
2144x1072 23.976p  91.9 MB/s 325  :14
2144x974  23.976p  81.0 MB/s 1344 :56

where do i download the latest stable 5D2 ML?  I clicked the link in the op but im not quite sure what to do from there.

This installation description is outdated.
Do you want to install ML "stable" (without RAW/MLV video, without Dual-ISO, without everything developed last 2 years ...) or do you want to go nightly (with RAW/MLV, Dual-ISO, ... and as time of writing the only version officially existing and updated)?
Stable is here: http://bitbucket.org/magiclantern/magic-lantern/downloads/magiclantern-v2.3.550D.60D.600D.50D.500D.5D2.zip
Nightly is here: Top of page -> Downloads -> Browse Nightly Builds.

I want whatever is the latest trusted build. Ive never put ML on my 5d, i read you can't use a nightly build first time. would i have a problem doing that?

May be partly true for some cams (missing FIR file) but you will be fine just using the files coming with nightly builds for 5D2.

Make sure to run firmware 2.1.2.
Format card in cam
Download latest nightly build zip file
Extract contents
Copy extracted contents (FIR + Autoexec.bin + ML directory) to card's root directory (cardreader required)
Insert card into cam, startup, run firmware update, read instructions and restart cam after installation is finished. If you wait for 30 seconds or longer ML will be removed again.
Done. Now take a deep breath and take your first steps to master ML.

I put magic lantern on my 5Dm2 and it worked, until I turned it off, and tried to turn it on again. My camera was completely dead. I had a shoot the next day so I stayed up all night trying to find a solution. I changed the card and pulled the battery, then retried. Ahhh, thank god! But now, my 16G card is useless and I cannot reformat it because my camera is a brick with it in. Any solutions? Much appreciated!

Insert card into cardreader. Delete ML directory and Autoexec.bin (if there, of course). Copy extracted nightly build files to card. Retry and report.

Still looking for MY workflow and finally getting around to having some ducks in a row -- Here's what I have:

5D 2 with SanDisk 64 GB Extreme Pro - 160 MB/s
MacBook Pro (2011) with an AMD Radeon HD 6750M 1024 MB
Mavericks
Full suite of Adobe CC including Ae and Pr
Not too sure if I want to go the Black Magic route (or if I need to) for conversion. When I look at their site it says I need:

"CUDA Driver version 6.5.18
NVIDIA Driver version – As required by your GPU
RED Rocket-X Driver 2.1.19.0 and Firmware 1.3.19.7 or later
RED Rocket Driver 1.4.36.0 and Firmware 1.1.17.3 or later"

Seriously?
Don't need the RED stuff, right? and the NIVIDA with latest CUDA...  ???  ...since I have the AMD Radeon don't think that's accurate...

What is there besides DaVinci Resolve that would give me good results?   ... I'm still every bit the Noob. 

Thanks for any replies.

Quote from: Lasting Image on January 12, 2015, 11:12:24 PM

What is there besides DaVinci Resolve that would give me good results?   ... I'm still every bit the Noob. 

Hi,
My workflow is the following

1. film on SanDisk 64 GB Extreme Pro - 160 MB/s (two of them - swap every now and then)
2. transfer MLVs to computer put in same folder (for easy proxy creation 3b)
3. view the good takes with MLRawViewer (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.0;topicseen) and tag it (i use finder's color labels for this)
      - MLRawViewer is a great viewer that runs in realtime without any conversion on my macbook air.
(3b optional). Create proxies (compressed versions of every file to be used for editing - not needed if project has few clips and is short.) This can be done from within the MLRawViewer by pressing Q and then X (or press export, chose the mov-file, not dngs)- Will create one *.mov file for each mlv-sequence in the folder. After you are done, move the mov files to new folder "proxy" outside of the mlv-dir.

4 run MLVFS (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0;topicseen)
      - MLVFS is a virtual filesystem that virtually creates DNGs from your MLV-files without conversion. It also does not take up any extra disk (!), only downside is that dngs might be slow playback in premiere or After effects (thats why I use step 3b)

5. Start Premiere/Davinci or AfterEffects and just add the clips from the virtual folder created in 4. If you created proxies (3b) cut the project with proxies and when done, replace footage with the virtually created DNGs.

6. Grade everything with speedgrade or After effects


(edit)
If it is a really short project like just a couple of clips, then you can skip step 3.

Quote from: stev3 on January 12, 2015, 09:36:48 PM
I put magic lantern on my 5Dm2 and it worked, until I turned it off, and tried to turn it on again. My camera was completely dead. I had a shoot the next day so I stayed up all night trying to find a solution. I changed the card and pulled the battery, then retried. Ahhh, thank god! But now, my 16G card is useless and I cannot reformat it because my camera is a brick with it in. Any solutions? Much appreciated!

Reformat it in a PC or Mac

Hi how is it possible to review the ML histogram of previous made raw photos?
I only see the ML histogram of the just made photo, the previous are shown in Canon histogram only, which is based on a jpg, isn't it?

only RAW stills, 5d2, ML: 2015jan15.5d2212

Hey i'm interested in dynamic range with 5d2 raw.Is it on par with bmpcc? Any idea how many stops?

Quote from: Sane__ on January 24, 2015, 01:13:47 PM
Hey i'm interested in dynamic range with 5d2 raw.Is it on par with bmpcc? Any idea how many stops?

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10111.0

Quote from: Riwikidi on January 24, 2015, 09:51:18 AM
Hi how is it possible to review the ML histogram of previous made raw photos?

No, not currently.  There is a thread about in the feature request section IIRC.

Thank you! Last question i promise! Do you think it's worth it to buy 5Dmark2 or buy 7D , is the improvement in raw really noticeable?

Quote from: Sane__ on January 24, 2015, 01:13:47 PM
Hey i'm interested in dynamic range with 5d2 raw.
Any idea how many stops?

The maximum D.R. I have seen on My 5D2 is 11.0 Stops , as per "MLVBrowseSharp" info.

Quote from: Sane__ on January 24, 2015, 03:25:04 PM
Do you think it's worth it to buy 5Dmark2 or buy 7D , is the improvement in raw really noticeable?

I think 5D2 is far superior to the 7D & is much more stable, I have been using my 5D2  :D on Magic Lantern Raw video
for the last year without any problems with Audio & HDMI support on a regular basis.
And of course the 5D3 is superior to the 5D2 , it all depends on your needs & budget level.

Thanks. My budget is kinda limited and my dilemma was between bmpcc ,7d and 5d mark ii.But with Bmpcc i will have to invest at least 1000$ to make it alright for my needs (speedbooster,batteries and cards)

Do you guys find the SanDisk 64 GB Extreme Pro much faster than the Komputer Bay 64 GB 1000x ?

I'm getting about 25 secs max, 1856 x 1044 PAL 25fps with Komputer Bay 64 GB on my 5D2 with Latest Nightly Build ...

Hi,
I always have a problem with the Nightly version of Magic Lantern. When I am recording a video, I always get "broken" frames after a random of time. Sometimes very often, sometimes luckly not...
It always appears as a brighter frame than the others.
This problem never occurs with the stable 2.3 release. It already happened with the nightly ~1 year ago. Now I came back, to find out that it still appears. This makes the Nightly for me still unusable :( But maybe I am doing something wrong myself?
To see what I am talking about, I uploaded a short video here (frame number 46):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mtokcn1vpql8rdi/magiclantern.mp4?dl=1 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mtokcn1vpql8rdi/magiclantern.mp4?dl=1)

I used a Canon 5D Mark II, FW 2.1.2 and Nightly from 28th january with SanDisk Extreme 60 MB/s UDMA 32 GB.
Here are my custom settings:
(http://i.imgur.com/fD7ocYN.gif)

Thank you very much for any help!

In which mode are your recording? H.264/MLV/RAW?
Which resolution/frame rate is set?

None of the modules are enabled. So I guess the standard h.264 of Canon.
Here the Info of the original mov file:
General
Complete name                  : D:\MVI_0001.MOV
Format                         : MPEG-4
Format profile                 : QuickTime
Codec ID                       : qt 
File size                      : 160 MiB
Duration                       : 26s 159ms
Overall bit rate               : 51.4 Mbps
Encoded date                   : UTC 2015-01-28 11:49:01
Tagged date                    : UTC 2015-01-28 11:49:01

Video
ID                             : 1
Format                         : AVC
Format/Info                    : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                 : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC         : No
Format settings, ReFrames      : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP           : M=1, N=15
Codec ID                       : avc1
Codec ID/Info                  : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                       : 26s 159ms
Bit rate                       : 49.9 Mbps
Width                          : 1 920 pixels
Height                         : 1 080 pixels
Original height                : 1 088 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Original display aspect ratio  : 16:9
Frame rate mode                : Constant
Frame rate                     : 29.970 fps
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0
Bit depth                      : 8 bits
Scan type                      : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)             : 0.803
Stream size                    : 156 MiB (97%)
Language                       : English
Encoded date                   : UTC 2015-01-28 11:49:01
Tagged date                    : UTC 2015-01-28 11:49:01
Color primaries                : BT.709
Transfer characteristics       : BT.709
Matrix coefficients            : BT.601
Color range                    : Full

Audio
ID                             : 2
Format                         : PCM
Format settings, Endianness    : Little
Format settings, Sign          : Signed
Codec ID                       : sowt
Duration                       : 26s 159ms
Bit rate mode                  : Constant
Bit rate                       : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s)                     : 2 channels
Channel positions              : Front: L R
Sampling rate                  : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                      : 16 bits
Stream size                    : 4.79 MiB (3%)
Language                       : English
Encoded date                   : UTC 2015-01-28 11:49:01
Tagged date                    : UTC 2015-01-28 11:49:01


Maybe it's also important to say, that I enabled Highlight Tone P. in the Canon settings.

Hi, before i saw a message how to install ML on card and on camera.  I remember something like put in M- mode, and use full  battery, but can't find this info no more.
Did install method change?
Is it possible to put ML on the cf card when the camera is connected to an laptop? Instead of using a card reader?

Yes. No. No.

Quote from: Morku on January 28, 2015, 12:28:55 PMNone of the modules are enabled. So I guess the standard h.264 of Canon.

Are you able to test with 2.3 "stable"? Just delete ML nightly folder and Autoexec.bin and copy extracted "stable" contents to card.

 ??? Is this suposed to be an answer on my question???

walter_schulz  Canon 5D Mark II / 5D2
« Reply #265 on: Today at 08:02:21 AM »
Yes. No. No.

Yes

With 5d2 latest build (and on in the future) do it is benefic to upgrade from 1000x CF to 1066x (and over) for more recordable raw video frames or do it worth not the expense? Do someone have comparations at hand? Many thanks!

QuoteAre you able to test with 2.3 "stable"? Just delete ML nightly folder and Autoexec.bin and copy extracted "stable" contents to card.

Yes. I record videos for over a year with the stable build and never have that "blinking" frames in videos. Just very often that annoying known microphone bug the first second and when I use the ML GUI in Live View the video can be hanging for 3 frames so I always use the standard Canon GUI.
The hanging frames also happened in a test video yesterday with latest Nightly, but much more annoying are the blinking frame...
Are there different hardware models who are unable for a good ML result?

Find a way to reproduce and upload a video showing the issue. I'm not sure what to look for.

I did upload a video here. There you can see the issue:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mtokcn1vpql8rdi/magiclantern.mp4?dl=1 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mtokcn1vpql8rdi/magiclantern.mp4?dl=1)

Or are you interested in a original video?

Does it help if you set ML digital ISO to 0?

o

Tried to update the 15 jan with the 29 jan on 5d2.
Can't.
LV button doesnot react, dustbin  does not react.
Camera still seems to be working, but takes longer to start.

Should u use the very same CF card as you used to install?

QuoteDoes it help if you set ML digital ISO to 0?

No, it doesn't. Here you have another example, straight out of the camera:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7dqmjcwifx34s7f/MVI_0022.zip?dl=1

Recorded without ML ISO -0.3 EV. Just Canon analog ISO 800. (but it also appears on any other ISO setting.)

Quote from: Riwikidi on January 29, 2015, 12:10:07 PM
Should u use the very same CF card as you used to install?

Take the card you used with older ML version.
Delete ML folder and Autoexec. bin
Copy extracted nightly build contents (ML folder + Autoexec.bin + FIR) to card.
Startup cam. Report results.

Report results.

did like told. Vers 29 jan is now on.
LV button still does not react.

Restore cam's factory default settings. Including C.Fn settings.
Try again.

Quote from: Morku on January 29, 2015, 12:15:37 PM
No, it doesn't. Here you have another example, straight out of the camera:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7dqmjcwifx34s7f/MVI_0022.zip?dl=1

Recorded without ML ISO -0.3 EV. Just Canon analog ISO 800. (but it also appears on any other ISO setting.)

If it's not ML ISO, I'm not sure what else it might be. Can you send me a copy of your ML/SETTINGS directory?

After that, reset both Canon and ML to default settings and see if it helps.

All my customed settings were changed after updating ML. So rechanged them.

Only auto rotating of vertical images doesnot work anymore although selected in 5d2 menu . What now?

What is your status right now?
Is liveview button working?

Have you tried to reset all Canon settings (including C.Fn) and ML set to default, too?

magic.cfg
# Magic Lantern Nightly.2015Jan29.5D2212 (703ee626326d (unified) tip)
# Built on 2015-01-28 23:10:03 UTC by [email protected]
# Configuration saved on 2015/01/29 21:46:14
beta.warn = 29
menu.first = -1
h264.bitrate-factor = 11
digic.zerosharp = 1
digic.iso.gain.movie = 790
battery.drain.rate.rev = 319
audio.mic-power = 0
audio.mgain = 6
audio.input-choice = 2
zoom.overlay.x = 2
zoom.overlay.size = 2
zoom.overlay.trig = 1
zoom.overlay = 1
zebra.draw = 0
disp.mode.x = 725


When I use the Canon Live View, it seems it doesn't happen.
It also seems that there are less blinking frames when I disable Auto lighting optimizer. But because of the random issue, I have to test more to be sure with my assumption.
Next I will test Canon Live View with enabled Auto lighting optimizer, but I think my camera is stressed with some settings and magic lantern.

Yes, LV button is working again. It was disabled by software, no hardware problem, happily  :).

"Have you tried to reset all Canon settings (including C.Fn) and ML set to default, too?"
not yet.... (hate to go through the menu again to re-custom  :))

Do you think this could solve the problem of  exposure  portrait photos vertical in the display in stead of horizontal.
Auto rotating not working is really annoying.

I tested a little more. Things I did:

1. disabled bootflag and rebooted
2. removed battery grip
3. Formated cf card (and removed ML)
4. cleared canon settings
5. cleared C.Fn funktions
6. Made these install steps: http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/install

Still get blinking frames.
I tested with disabled Auto lighting optimizer and ML Live View.
Enabled Auto lighting optimizer and ML Live View
and enabled Auto lighting optimizer and Canon Live View. First blink frame appeared after 1:05 minutes.

No blinking frame with disabled Auto lighting optimizer and Canon Live View... yet!
Seems like I got a bad camera model :(

Could somebody please react on my issue?  :)

Maybe after you read the forum rules.

I have no clue what you mean by that,  which forum rule did i exactly violate?

The one about bumping your own issues.

And you have already received the solution to your issue; you just refused to try it.

Hello guys what is the maximum fps in full hd in raw? I want to do some slow motion shots (not insanely ,around 20-30% slower than original) and i'm just curious.Is 24fps the maxmimum?Also , does someone tried it with twixtor?

Quote from: Sane__ on February 01, 2015, 12:14:30 PM
Is 24fps the maximum ?

No

Quote from: Sane__ on February 01, 2015, 12:14:30 PM
Hello guys what is the maximum fps in full hd in raw?

If 30p is set in the Canon menu , Then with "Frame Over Ride" enabled and set to "Exact" in the ML menu you should get up to 35 FPS
But will not be continuous at the Max resolution on the 5D2 . A few seconds at best.

Thanks! Can you shoot at maximum resolution at 25fps?

Quote from: Sane__ on February 02, 2015, 07:17:25 PM
Thanks! Can you shoot at maximum resolution at 25fps?

I would think so , I Shoot continuous 23.976 fps @ 1872x936 1:1 and 3x crop @2048x872
Link to a post I write on the resolution Frame size  that's possible
http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11205.msg136460#msg136460

Very helpful! Thanks!

Hi there,

I've been using ML on my 5d2 for a while now with great success.

Lately I have encountered a problem that I can't figure out myself, since I've set up my camera for filming RAW MLV, my file names when using AETTR have changed from IMG_ to _IMG_ but with the file's XMP still being named IMG_. It appears that this way, Lightroom (where I process most of my timelapses) can't connect the XMP to the file making post-deflicker useless.

Has anyone encountered/solved this problem?

Many thanks!

Need more info , installed nightly build date,  camera setting etc...
We can help more then.

Or a little knowledge about Canon menu ;)

Set color space to sRGB, not Adobe RGB.

What do you mean about setting the color space to sRGB and not Adobe rgb?

Is there any difference in the Raw output, if so, wouldn't Adobe rgb contain more colors?

No, the difference is only in the CR2 metadata and file names.

Thanks a million, that solved the issue!

Quote from: Riwikidi on January 24, 2015, 09:51:18 AM
    Hi how is it possible to review the ML histogram of previous made raw photos?
Quote from:Audionut
No, not currently.  There is a thread about in the feature request section IIRC.

Hi i am not sure if you guys know but i noticed pushing the Q while review previously photos pops up the histogram. It looks like the ML histogram.

That's a JPEG-based histogram.

Thanks a1ex.  :)

I am puzzled now. The main reason why i am trying to get ML working is the raw histogram feature. I had no clue ML is also showing an jpg based histogram as well. Fooled because of the difference with the Canon histogram display and that AETTR was working. Now i understand i still have been watching the jpg display. ::)

However; now i understand RAW hist. is only seen in LV. Although i have the same settings as shown in OVERLAY pics on  http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12096.0 it doesn't come up. Only the horizontal info at the bottom is shown on my 5d2. What am i missing??

searched on "display raw histogram"  (Sorry, no matches were found)

Quote from: Audionut on May 29, 2014, 05:41:00 PMThey work in both Movie mode and Photo mode Live View, and in the Quick Image review.  In Movie mode Live View, you must load one of the raw recording modules for raw based exposure feedback to function.

Also check the "Use RAW histogram" option.  Finally, pay attention to the RAW EV indicator, if it isn't in the histogram, you're in JPG mode.

thanks Audionut,
i did:
loaded raw_rec v1.0 = ok (restarted twice)
OVERLAY = histogram/use raw histogram/ full histogram (Was already active.)

I'm afraid i am still missing something, pushed all the buttons while in LV, no RAW histogram pops up nore in Photo mode Live View, nore in the Quick Image review.

BTW i am only interested in taking photos.

Unloaded raw_rec v1.0 and loaded mlv_rec.mo  v2.0 , but makes no difference.

Can you delete the entire contents of your card, copy a freshly extracted nightly build zip to the card, enable raw based histogram and take a photo.

Make sure image review is set to some time in canon settings.

If it still doesn't work, can you take a short video showing the histogram settings and then taking a photo.

Audionut didn't request to load RAW_REC.mo or MLV_REC. But it would make no difference at all for this problem ...
And to see ML overlays in LV you have to press INFO some times.

Do the overlays stay active, or do you always have to press info on the 5D2?

Raw recording module must be loaded (edit: and active iirc) for raw based exposure feedback in movie mode LV.

Sorry, should keep my fingers from keyboard before breakfast!

- I have image review always set on long time exposing.

- Pressing INFO popups a line with same info as written under the preview image. And a white bordered rectangle is shown for max 1 sec. I suppose there is where the histogram should appear. But it is empty, just the white border with the rest of the photo in it.

- Raw recording module is loaded and active I guess: the  bullet is green and it says OK

I will  delete the entire contents of my card, and copy a freshly extracted nightly build zip to it. I will report after, but not sure when due circumstances.

Thanks for looking into this!  :)

"If it still doesn't work, can you take a short video showing the histogram settings and then taking a photo."
i will try that first, when i can figure out how to take a video. Since i am really only interested in stills. :)

Delete everything and do a clean install first please.

For video, a phone is fine, it doesn't need to be high quality, just enough to see things.

ML you guys have taking my 5D Mark II to the next level so I wanted to first state that if the ML 5D Mark II firmware is at its ceiling I am very greatful and I Thank You Guys very much. Now for my leading project for this year is a Pilot Episode, I've use a lot of firmware version and I have a few I use for projects but up to date what are the best stable firmware version? I also want to shoot 2:1 format, does anyone have any tips on shoot in 2:1 because this is the format that was use for House Of Cards and I like it because it can be covered well for UHDTV?

Hello i got two questions.First if i shoot 2:35:1 resolution is below Full HD but does the quality is actually lower or just crops the sensor?If i use letterbox  2:35:1 will there be any quality difference between full hd and max 2:35-1 resolution in 5dmark2.Also what is the best 32 gb CF card you've used beside Komputerbay which have very mixed opinions?

Quote from: Sane__ on February 07, 2015, 11:03:02 PM
If i shoot 2:35:1 resolution is below Full HD but does the quality is actually lower or just crops the sensor?

It All 14bit , No Quality differences . All Frame resolutions are Cropped from the 3:2 Sensor of 1880x1250 (.raw) & 1872x1250 (.mlv), Of which you can only
record a few seconds .

Quote from: Sane__ on February 07, 2015, 11:03:02 PM
what is the best 32 gb CF card you've used beside Komputerbay which have very mixed opinions?

I personal Use Lexar 1000x & 1066x , The 1066x is about 10 to 15% faster then my 1000x and cheaper. :D
It make a difference on the Large Resolutions for Continuous recording (eg. 1872x936 with HDMI)
Plus I never had any file corruption , They cost a little more but worth it . 8)

Thank you! It's very good to know that there is no quality difference between crops (at least if you don't rescale).I'm looking at sandisk 1067x, because Lexar is really out of my price range (i'm from Europe and here the price difference is a killer).

Sandisk are Also Very Good Cards, no negative comments I Know of

Hi again, i am strugling with reinstalling ML. This is what i've done:

* cleared all canon settings
* uninstalled ML by formatting in Canon menu while press Q. as read in http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=4724.msg27699

* format CF in camera
* ML SETTINGS folder : ettr.cfg + magic.cfg where left over, deleted them by laptop.
* put the ML files in CF root
* start 5d2- nothing happens except Canon menu is working well

Used another CF with another cardreader, same results.

I reckon autoexec isn't working... Could the problem be caused by the cardreader? Due circumstances i have used 3 different cardreaders till now...

Try re-installing it since you removed it.

 8) Finally got my install.

I notice i need to use the one and only CF card that i used to install the very  first time.
A different one will not work.
Is this common?

Common user error. When got stuck: Format card inside cardreader and start from scratch.

Well i have RAW histogram now when taken a photo. But not during LV, pushing Q or INFO doesn't change that.

When i push INFO a white "expSim" with a line drawn through it, turns up.

Quote from: Riwikidi on February 08, 2015, 11:38:39 AM
Well i have RAW histogram now when taken a photo.

How did you do that?

A clean install.
Compared the hist. in quickview with the one in "backview" they show a different graphic.
All the settings are as shown in http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12096.0 and incl. the tips above.

In the hist are sometimes E or D10.5 shown. But not the word RAW though

EDIT: Wait a moment! You are just missing the letters "RAW" inside RAW histogram? Please take a look at the other examples in the link you provided. Boy, this took long ...

Hi Walter Schulz, first of all it is not me not believing you! It is me struggling to get this working.

I try to remember the graphic that pop ups direct after clicking,  and compare the histogram from embedded JPEG. They differ.

I am happy to sent a photo. I only posses 1 camera so i have to find someone to help.
You need this 2 stages photographed or is more required?
And i have no clue how to upload...

RAW only shows when the other hints are not active IIRC.  If you're seeing the ETTR or DR hints, you have raw based histogram.

Make sure you have a RAW video module loaded and active when in movie mode LV.

Also, for camera display capture, look at the screenshot option in the debug menu.  This generates screenshots like the ones I created for the raw based exposure feedback tutorial.

I see for example: D10.1 in hist  and -3.9EV in the middle.
The embedded jpg hist differs completely!

"Make sure you have a RAW video module loaded and active when in movie mode LV."

I never will use video, but have MLV_REC running since i understand this is required.

"Also, for camera display capture, look at the screenshot option in the debug menu.  This generates screenshots like the ones I created for the raw based exposure feedback tutorial."

AHA that makes sense. Reckon i can find them with a card reader?! Thanks.

"Make sure you have a RAW video module loaded and active when in movie mode LV."

Bloody hell, i think this was the problem! I put LV/Movie func + photo and movie in Canon menu active.
Now i can see a hist in LV. It is in the left corner down. Is in LV no zebra shown?

Quote from: Riwikidi on February 08, 2015, 12:57:26 PM
I never will use video, but have MLV_REC running since i understand this is required.

You don't need it if you are shooting photos. You only need it if you want to shoot raw video (not photos). And you don't need it for raw exposure feedback in LiveView, if you are shooting photos.

In photo mode (in LV or not), you need picture quality set to RAW in Canon menu. Obviously, the camera should be in photo mode (NOT movie mode). ExpSim should be enabled for any kind of exposure feedback in LiveView (you mentioned it's off). If there are other settings required, they will be listed in ML menu, at the bottom.

Thanks a1ex, i think i mastered it now... so far...  :)

Maybe I'm missing something in this guide, but is there a way to download a stable release? The only thing I'm finding on the downloads page is the Nightly builds.

There is a way but "stable" is considered to be outdated.

Do you know if it still works?

Yes, but you can't use newer findings (Dual-ISO, RAW/MLV video recording, SRM memory handling, AFMA, silent pics, ETTR, Autoexpo) and will not be able to use card >32 GByte for first ML installation.

So what would be the best version for that?

As always: The newest.

Hi .  I am a newbie to Magic Lantern Raw and just had some questions , hoping I could get some help.

I am using ML nightly build from Jan 29th 2015

I am using 1000x Komputerbay 64gb and followed instructions for ML Raw with Audio

I am unable to get past 10 seconds without it dropping. I also noticed when choosing resolution there no choice in the 1800 range beside 1857x1044.  Is that how it is supposed to be?

I've tried with Global on and off as well as card reader warmup. Still no luck

Any suggestions ?

Quote from: sosantney on February 16, 2015, 03:17:06 AM
I also noticed when choosing resolution there no choice in the 1800 range beside 1857x1044.  Is that how it is supposed to be?

For ver 2.0 Raw .mlv+audio frame resolution in 1:1 is "1856" no other "1800" resolution with that nightly build.
You need to go back to older nightly builds for more option in the "1800" range of resolutions.
Link to a post I wrote about possible resolution on 5D2 -->http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11205.msg136460#msg136460

This build will give you "1872 & 1856" with .mlv raw ver 2.0 
https://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/job/5D2.212/206/artifact/platform/5D2.212/magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2014Feb16.5D2212.zip

This build is from Oct-24th2013 which will let record frame resolutions up to "1880" but only in Original Raw format version 1.0 ".raw"
https://bitbucket.org/a_d_/laboratory/downloads/af9a60fe144d.zip

Quote from: sosantney on February 16, 2015, 03:17:06 AM
I am unable to get past 10 seconds without it dropping.
I've tried with Global on and off as well as card reader warmup. Still no luck
Any suggestions ?

It all depends on the resolution you are trying to  record.
The maximum  continuous resolution for 5D2 , at least from my experience is 1872x936 @23.976p + audio 48khz Or with the latest nightly 1856x928 plus audio
and with the Original Raw format version 1.0 1880x1016 23.976p

Also check your card speed as some of the Komputerbay CF card can not keep up. You will need a minimum of 70.1 MB/s write speed for 1872x936.
Maximum speed that the 5D2 can do is 79.8 MB/s with the odd speed burst to 82.0 MB/s

"The maximum  continuous resolution for 5D2 , at least from my experience is 1872x936 @23.976p + audio 48khz Or with the latest nightly 1856x928 plus audio"

You said with the latest nightly build you are getting 1856x928 ?   I don't understand , I don't even see a option to choose 1856x928 in that nightly build.  Am I missing something here?  My card is writing over 70mbs which I think is good, it fluxuates.   

I am contemplating if it is even worth switching builds to shoot at 1880. You think it will make much of a difference?

Also- if there an option in ML to change Framerate?

Quote from: sosantney on February 17, 2015, 12:08:39 AM
You said with the latest nightly build you are getting 1856x928 ?   I don't understand , I don't even see a option to choose 1856x928 in that nightly build.  Am I missing something here? 

Go to the Movie Tab , with the Big wheel selector High Light the "Raw Video(MLV)" Tab, Press the "Picture Profile" button to enter the submenu.
Now you will see a list of option to adjust , high light "Resolution" use the small turn wheel by the shutter button to select frame size etc...
or press the "Start Button" to enter submenu.

Quote from: sosantney on February 17, 2015, 12:08:39 AM
I am contemplating if it is even worth switching builds to shoot at 1880. You think it will make much of a difference?

Not really, It depends on your project needs and Workflow
If you are looking for just the largest Frame Resolution (A.R.1.85:1-1880x1016, A.R.16x9-1880x1058) then .raw Version 1.0 is the one to use.
Or even in 3x Crop mode with original format ".raw" you can get 2048x1024 for around 60 seconds ! or 2048x930 continuous, but No Audio which is not to big of a problem if you has a clapper board & master the audio to a exterior PCM recorder etc...

If you need Audio for e.g."Run & Gun"style video or your workflow needs the extra metadata that .mlv generates(TimeCode, ISO, Expose, Lens Info etc..) for Grading programs like Blackmagic Resolve or Adobe SpeedGrade  and the smaller resolution 1872,1856 @ A.R. of 2:1 is acceptable then Version 2.0 .mlv is for you  ;D

Quote from: sosantney on February 17, 2015, 12:08:39 AM
Also- if there an option in ML to change Framerate?

In Movie Tab high light "FPS override" press "picture profile" button to enter the submenu .
Normally I have My 5d2 set to "Exact FPS" @ 23.976 from 24 fps
The highest frame rate  you can push the 5d2 is 35 fps as long as the Canon menu is set to 30P
or as low as 0.150 fps but never tried that low , have heard of people record at 0.250 fps with out problems.

Hi everybody - even though this question seems so, generally I'm not stupid.. sorry for that question in advance, but I am desperate after hours of looking for the answer and not being able to change my ISO values while I am recording Video.

What settings do I have to set to be able to modify the ISO WHILE shooting? (Or is that not possible at all - on my 650 it worked all by itself.. now I got a 5D mii and can't? It has to be my fault!)

Thank you so much for your help!

I don't think its possible & why would you just Get a ND Fader Filter.
I would not do this but, you could set the ISO to "Auto" but with that you will introduce Noise
As you do not know what the ISO is .
Basically you what to keep ISO to multiplies of "100" e.g. 100, 200, 400, to 1600 anything other then that is Digitally Push of Pulled
So they are not clean(digital noise) , The 5D2 produces a Very clean low to no noise image at ISO 100 , 200 & 400

No way to change ISO while shooting ML RAW.  :'(

But how is it possible, that I can change the ISO values on ML on my 650D and not on the 5DM2?

What I have to film and why I can't stop the recording to change ISO is because..
I am shooting live concerts - sometimes outside in difficult situations (shade under a tent and the public is in full sunlight).
a.) If I change the shutter away from 50 I get artificial movements - so I can't do that
b.) If I change the blind diameter of the aperture I change the effect on the image that I want (what is in focus and blurry)
c.) ISO always seemed to be the best solution.

Actually it is only way i knew to switch back and forth between radically diffent light situations and which I always did on the 650D using the ML function exposure smoothing (or something like that) so it faded slowly from one ISO to the next. This function was/is perfect. But being on the 5DM2 I obviously have to find another way - if it is definite that ISO changes are not possible while I am filming.

How would you deal with this problem? What is the right way on the 5DM2 with ML to reduce or gain light while recording?
Will someone write a similar tool already existing for the 650D for the 5D, soon? Is this planed / is it possible / or will it never happen?

@felixC , Get a ND Fader for video I said this 2 posts ago.
I use a High End "ND Fader Filter" Not a "Circular Polarizer Filter" 2 different thinks here.
You can adjust the fader from 1/2-1 stop of Light to 8-10 stops of Light reduction .
So if you are @ 800 ISO for indoor Shot Like inside a tent then walk out in to the Sun light then just turn down the fader to expose on the fly
and get down to a equivalent ISO of 100 etc....
I do this at Outdoor events all the time, Specially when doing "Run & Gun" style video
Quote About stops of light from   http://jimdoty.com/learn/exp101/exp_big3/exp_big3.html
"One stop less light" means the amount of light has been cut in half.
Two stops less light means there is only 1/4 as much light, three stops less means 1/8 as much light and so on."

Hope this helps  :D

Hello i'm using latest nightly build but can someone explain me why i can't get 1872x936 (2:1)
and i can get max 1856x844 in RAW 1.0 ? Also ,does someone have budget external monitor solution that works with magic lantern (at least for preview, not for recording, i've tried DSLR controller app , but it doesn't show the magic lantern menus) Thanks!

Quote from: Sane__ on February 21, 2015, 07:24:00 PM
Hello i'm using latest nightly build but can someone explain me why i can't get 1872x936 (2:1)
and i can get max 1856x844 in RAW 1.0 ?

Well this was a very heated discussion about a years ago Late February early March of 2014.
You can Read about it in the old 5D2 thread, page 84 I think (Magic Lantern Forum » Third Party Modifications (obsolete) » a.d. & pravdomil's 5D2 builds » 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit) Link--> http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5533.0
Here is some comments made by a1ex you can read
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5533.msg106668#msg106668
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5533.msg106435#msg106435
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5533.msg106606#msg106606
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5533.msg107776#msg107776
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5533.msg107786#msg107786

Comments by 1% (developer)-->http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5533.msg107793#msg107793
Comments by xvince1 --> http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5533.msg107850#msg107850

So in a nut shell the 5D2 had to fellow the same code as the other Cameras e.g. 5d3,6d,7d etc.... to be portable
There could have coded in 1888 instead of 1880 or 1872 but the developers (A1ex) was not convinced to put the size exception in for the 5D2.
Even thou there was big support by the Users Specially be me it was Crushed .  :(

As a 5D2 user since Day 1 of raw video I have found nightly builds that work for me . That includes  version 1.0 & version 2.0+audio
If you would like to try them for your projects here is the link to those builds -->  http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11205.msg140353#msg140353
.mlv up to 1872 & .raw up to 1880.

On a side Note you could make a formal request for 1888 in the feature request  ;) --> http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=24.0

Quote from: Sane__ on February 21, 2015, 07:24:00 PM
Also ,does someone have budget external monitor solution that works with magic lantern (at least for preview, not for recording, i've tried DSLR controller app , but it doesn't show the magic lantern menus) Thanks!

I know it may not be very cheap but I use a older Zacuto EVF I bought from a Video Rental House ,
since I had a (Zacuto) Z-finder Pro3x Doppler it was the right choice for me . Works great no problems with .mlv but .raw was a little glitchy.
As long as you start the cam with the HDMI plugged in, it's OK with Original .raw ver 1.0.

Before you go making feature requests for something that has already been discussed and decided upon, you may want to ensure supporting evidence for the request.
What benefits does 1888 lines of resolution hold over 1872 lines of resolution?  Where talking 16 lines of resolution, or put another way, less then 1%.

The greatest advantage of open sourced software, is that you can make your own personal changes.

No It's limited to 1856 for the latest Nighty Build not 1872,  so really it closer to 2% loss (32 lines)
I just use the build from Feb16/2014 that's still 1872 Before the code was changed. So I'm good with it :D

where do i get the latest stable build?   all i see are links to nightly builds.

reddeercity your help is absolutely enormous! Now everything makes sense! One last question, does it make quality difference if in canon menu i set quality to jpeg instead of raw?

No.  It used to make some difference to speed on some cameras (JPG vs raw), but this was fixed with SRM memory (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12528.0).

Thank you, btw i don't have an option for 1872  , only for 1856 res with the latest nightly build Audionut.

Quote from: Sane__ on February 22, 2015, 10:44:05 PM
reddeercity your help is absolutely enormous! Now everything makes sense! One last question, does it make quality difference if in canon menu i set quality to jpeg instead of raw?

Thanks , just doing my part to Help out  ;D
You need at the very least Raw enabled for raw video to my knowledge , but you can have both if you need to take Jpeg photos .
I normally leave Jpeg Off and Raw set to Large (21M 5616x3744) so I can use FRSP (Full Res Silent Pictures)
You can also use S-Raw1 or S-Raw2 (Small Raw1 or 2) I uses to set my cam to S-Raw2 but I not sure if it's makes any different from Large Raw.
I only load or set cam with the bare minimum to shot Video of take photos not both seems to work better that Way.
And Raw Quality never changes it's always 14bit no matter what the frame size/resolution

Quote from: Audionut on February 22, 2015, 10:50:29 PM
No.  It used to make some difference to speed on some cameras (JPG vs raw), but this was fixed with SRM memory (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12528.0).

As Far as the 5D2 is concerned,
This only make a different for Slower CF cards below 1000x  (e.g. 800x, 600x etc..), there is no differents on all the fast CF cards 1066x Specially  & 1000x
If there was I would most definitely be using it .

Quote from: bertsperling on February 22, 2015, 09:40:10 PM
where do i get the latest stable build?   all i see are links to nightly builds.

That's The ones, there is really no "latest stable build" Just format your cards with "EOScard"  http://pel.hu/eoscard/
Then just copy over the nightly build you want to use .

Quote from: Sane__ on February 22, 2015, 10:57:48 PM
Thank you, btw i don't have an option for 1872  , only for 1856 res with the latest nightly build Audionut.

As reddeercity points out, that's still only less then 2% from the maximum res.  As stated above, the reason why the maximum resolution isn't available on the 5D2 is due to code simplification.  We don't want a ton of code in ML that is single camera specific.  To implement the higher resolution on the 5D2 would require specific 5D2 code.

If you can come up with an convincing argument as to why the higher resolution should be implemented, by all means do so, it may get implemented.  Beware, single line statements such as, "higher resolution is better", is not considered sufficient reasoning.

Quote from: reddeercity on February 22, 2015, 11:14:47 PM
You need at the very least Raw enabled for raw video to my knowledge , but you can have both if you need to take Jpeg photos.

You need to have raw enabled in Canon menus for a bunch of ML features, including raw recording.

Quote from: reddeercity on February 22, 2015, 11:14:47 PM
You can also use S-Raw1 or S-Raw2 (Small Raw1 or 2) I uses to set my cam to S-Raw2 but I not sure if it's makes any different from Large Raw.

It does not.  See below.

Quote from: reddeercity on February 22, 2015, 11:14:47 PM
As Far as the 5D2 is concerned,
This only make a different for Slower CF cards below 1000x  (e.g. 800x, 600x etc..), there is no differents on all the fast CF cards 1066x Specially  & 1000x
If there was I would most definitely be using it .

SRM memory backend is now implemented in the nightly builds, and always active.  This means that no cameras benefit anymore from setting the picture quality to JPG, sraw or whatever.  ML will always allocate ALL available memory, and you will always have the longest recording times possible.

Quote from: reddeercity on February 22, 2015, 11:14:47 PM
And Raw Quality never changes it's always 14bit no matter what the frame size/resolution

I think I understand what you mean, but it is a little misleading.  There are actions performed to the raw content when the camera is set to any of the smaller raw options, and this does effect quality.

If you're using any of the raw based features in ML, set the Canon menu quality to full/large raw and be done with it.

Quote from: reddeercity on February 22, 2015, 11:14:47 PM
That's The ones, there is really no "latest stable build" Just format your cards with "EOScard"  http://pel.hu/eoscard/
Then just copy over the nightly build you want to use .

I don't recommend to use EOScard for the initial install, in case it, or the user, unintentionally sets the bootflag on the card before the bootflag has been enabled on the camera.  The 5D2 has the simplified installer, and I have updated the original post to reflect this.

Hello,

I'm sure this is a way basic question so I'll first say, yes, I've tried searching to find an answer here and elsewhere.

How do you capture an image of the LCD screen?

An example is in the fist post of this thread  -  http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11205.0

Pic in first post is tricky. Don't expect this to work out of the box.

Other snapshots are quite easy: http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/userguide#menu_screenshots
Info is a bit outdated. File format is PPM for stills.

NEVERMIND DISREGARD THAT!!!!!

Quick question about the half shutter view when shooting in Crop Mode RAW on 5D2.  I've read in the forums that the preview changes to color from the default b&w but for me the color has a very strong pink cast to it when I press the half shutter.  Is this the way it's supposed to be? Or do I have a setting wrong?

Also just curious how people frame for crop mode? Do you use GD for that? Even with a monitor?

Thanks so much in advance! And apologies if I missed where this is posted in the forum, been searching but haven't found anything that explained it for me.

@ gtsofilms, what Nightly Build are you using?
You should have full color preview with proper 3x Crop mode framing.
I will just recap how to set it up.
Set the preview in the MLV Raw Video submenu to "Auto", ML will choose the best mode which will be a blocky B/W but with proper framing.
Then press the Half shutter button then you will have a flat full color preview with proper framing , the refresh rate is very slow but works.
It's also possible to have that same preview while recording Raw video at the same time, just make the half shutter sticky.

(Note, I just tested it to make sure)

If this still produces a Pink Cast in Preview then I would say there is something broken with the build you are using.
That the reason for asking what nightly build you are running.
I running on a year old nightly build feb/2014 and it work 100%

There really is no way to Frame 3x crop mode external to a HDMI monitor as it will just get the center crop of the 3x cropped image.
5D2 HDMI Out =1650x1080p . So just in camera framing is possible .

Edit: just a note , I use a Zacuto  Z-Finder Pro 3x Doppler in Crop mode so I can get a acute focus & frame off the back of the Camera's LCD
Work very well.

I am having a problem loading the modules needed for RAW video. See photos below.

I am installing ML on my 5D MkII for the first time. Please help!

(http://www.snefferdy.com/uploads/7/4/9/3/7493014/566347_orig.jpg)

(http://www.snefferdy.com/uploads/7/4/9/3/7493014/2029133_orig.jpg)

Delete ML directory and Autoexec.bin from card. Copy extracted nightly contents to card.

Quote from: Walter Schulz on March 06, 2015, 08:00:43 PM
Delete ML directory and Autoexec.bin from card. Copy extracted nightly contents to card.

If this was meant to be a solution for me, I tried it. Didn't work. Same thing as before.

Please link a screenshot showing your Help tab.
And try to load a single module.

Quote from: Walter Schulz on March 06, 2015, 08:22:57 PM
Please link a screenshot showing your Help tab.
And try to load a single module.

Ok, that did something. There's only one module causing a problem: mlv_snd. It won't load by itself, and when I try to load it with any of the others, it causes a problem for all of them. But each of the others will load fine as long as mlv_snd isn't selected.

So what does that mean?

(http://www.snefferdy.com/uploads/7/4/9/3/7493014/7825629_orig.jpg)

(http://www.snefferdy.com/uploads/7/4/9/3/7493014/8216749_orig.jpg)

(http://www.snefferdy.com/uploads/7/4/9/3/7493014/2240452_orig.jpg)

Enable audio recording in Canon's menu.
EDIT: Nice! I think we have a bug ...

Quote from: Walter Schulz on March 06, 2015, 09:25:06 PM
Enable audio recording in Canon's menu.

Audio recording was already set to auto. I tried setting it to manual to see if that would have any effect. It didn't.

Remove battery. Wait some seconds. Insert battery. Restart.

Quote from: Walter Schulz on March 06, 2015, 09:38:31 PM
Remove battery. Wait some seconds. Insert battery. Restart.

Still nope.

Should I create an issue/bug report? I'm very new to Magic Lantern, but I can post what I have written here.

I'm about to corner the bug. Wait, please.

Try this and report back:
Prefs  tab -> Config files -> Restore ML defaults.
Shutdown cam
Remove battery
Insert battery
Startup cam
Enable MLV_REC.mo and MLV_SND.mo
Restart cam

 @snefferdy, you Can Not Load  Raw Version 1.0 ( Original ) and MLV Sound Version 2.0  at the same time .
You must keep MLV Ver.2.0 together .
Either run Raw or MLV modules , If you want Raw Video with sound them just load 5d2_212.sys, file_man.mo, mlv_rec.mo, mlv_snd.mo that it and try and see if you still have problems.
Look at your screen shots and it clearly show you trying to Load .Raw and .mvl sound , version 1.0 dose not have sound support just MLV that it.

Actually you can load all the modules at the same time.

(http://picload.org/image/cwdacdo/vram0.jpg)

But it doesn't make that much sense, IMO.

Quote from: Walter Schulz on March 06, 2015, 10:29:59 PM
Try this and report back:
Prefs  tab -> Config files -> Restore ML defaults.
Shutdown cam
Remove battery
Insert battery
Startup cam
Enable MLV_REC.mo and MLV_SND.mo
Restart cam

That worked Walter! Thanks!

Quote from: reddeercity on March 06, 2015, 10:30:13 PM
@snefferdy, you Can Not Load  Raw Version 1.0 ( Original ) and MLV Sound Version 2.0  at the same time .
You must keep MLV Ver.2.0 together .
Either run Raw or MLV modules , If you want Raw Video with sound them just load 5d2_212.sys, file_man.mo, mlv_rec.mo, mlv_snd.mo that it and try and see if you still have problems.
Look at your screen shots and it clearly show you trying to Load .Raw and .mvl sound , version 1.0 dose not have sound support just MLV that it.

I had trouble loading mlv_snd.mo even when I hadn't tried to load raw_rec.mo (see the screen shot where I had just tried to load mlv_snd.mo by itself).

___

As a separate question for you both, is there detailed info anywhere about what each module does? If I don't need sound, is there any advantage to using raw_rec.mo?

Quote
If I don't need sound, is there any advantage to using raw_rec.mo?

Yes very much so ! Because MLV ver. 2.0 has Metadata, TC, Audio etc.. it's comes at a Cost .
That cost in the form of Write Band Width , even thou it's only maybe 2-4MB/s  that's enough to reduce frame resolution .
e.g. with MLV & Sound the max write speed is 68-71 MB/s = (1872*936 older build) or (1856*928 Latest build) @ 23.976p Continuous (64GB Full)  in non crop mode with at least a 1000x CF Card
Where as Raw ver 1.0 in non crop max. write speed jumps up to 76.4 MB/S = 1880x1016 23.976p Continuous
and in 3X Crop Mode with ver. 1.0 = 1920*1038 23.976p 79.9 MB/s, 2048*930 23.976p 78.6 MB/s Continuous & 2048*1024 for about 52 [email protected]/s

For MLV in 3X crop mode the max continuous resolution is 2048*872.
The CF card controller band width is limited to about 84MB/s unlike the 5D3 which I think is about 95-100+MB/s

Quote from: reddeercity on March 07, 2015, 12:42:40 AM
with MLV & Sound the max write speed is 68-71 MB/s = (1872*936 older build) or (1856*928 Latest build) @ 23.976p Continuous (64GB Full)  in non crop mode with at least a 1000x CF Card
Where as Raw ver 1.0 in non crop max. write speed jumps up to 76.4 MB/S = 1880x1016 23.976p Continuous
and in 3X Crop Mode with ver. 1.0 = 1920*1038 23.976p 79.9 MB/s, 2048*930 23.976p 78.6 MB/s Continuous & 2048*1024 for about 52 [email protected]/s

Just tried RAW 1.0 and confirmed this, is much faster and same values with Komputerbay 1066x 128gb

One question, long time without a electronic aperture. While recording is not possible to change the Aperture or Shutter speed no?

Quote from: tool on March 07, 2015, 08:48:55 PM
Just tried RAW 1.0 and confirmed this, is much faster and same values with Komputerbay 1066x 128gb

One question, long time without a electronic aperture. While recording is not possible to change the Aperture or Shutter speed no?

You can change both the aperture and the shutter speed while recording video, but it jumps between stops. (You can't achieve a smooth and gradual change in exposure.)

Hello everyone,
I have a canon eos 5d mark 2 and I was wondering if I can go beyond the nine shots the HDR bracketing

Sorry to post again,  I tried using the build that reddeercity posted, I believe it's the 2014 Feb/March raw 2.0 build and I still get the pink cast over the color preview when I'm in crop mode and the framing is not correct.  I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.  The preview option is auto. 

I only get correct framing when I switch to Global Draw. I've got a picture but I'm not sure how to post it on the forum. APpreciate the help!

@gtsofilms I did some checking in this  Preview issue in 3x Crop mode.
As I said full color preview with proper framing work ok with MLV 2.0 & Raw 1.0
Now as I thought the color preview work ok while recording mlv raw video is not so there is  pink cast preview but still fine until you start recording.
This is not the case with Raw 1.0 while mlv 2.0 has a pink cast ,there is no problem with Original Raw 1.0 while recording raw video.
I also check Jan.29/2015 nightly build and this is the case , mlv pink cast preview in crop mode while recording & with Raw1.0 color preview while recording .
So if you want full color preview while recording 3x crop raw video then use Version 1.0.
I'll post a video here later that will to show the different previews in crop mode, just in the middle of working on a green screen music video at the moment  ;D 

Question for anyone reading this:

Where can I find the last stable release of ML for the 5D2? It's not available from the main downloads page.

The raw video hasn't yet met my overly-high expectations (due to aliasing/moire issues without achieving full HD), and I have been experiencing some intermittent buggy behaviour from the camera since my install (it crashed on a shoot last night). So I don't need the raw video but I still want to use ML's other (older) great features, and I am hoping to find that an older version runs smoother. Any ideas?

The most recent builds are really more stable than the old "v2.3 stable" from years ago, especially if you don't use raw video.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14280.0

@reddercity I tried RAW 1.0 with the 1880 build that you posted a link for and wasn't able to get a correctly framed color preview without a pink cast in crop mode.  MLV or RAW doesn't seem to matter...  Does anyone else have this problem?

:[

Quote from: gtsofilms on March 13, 2015, 04:21:28 AM
@reddercity I tried RAW 1.0 with the 1880 build that you posted a link for and wasn't able to get a correctly framed color preview without a pink cast in crop mode.  MLV or RAW doesn't seem to matter...  Does anyone else have this problem?

I may have miss lead you , Sorry
The older Oct24/2013 raw build with 1880 will not work as I have discovered .
Download the latest nightly built  and retry, I check it with the magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2014Jan29.5D2212 nighty build with Raw ver1.0 and it's OK
Please read my post again

Quote from: reddeercity on March 10, 2015, 11:48:37 PM
As I said full color preview with proper framing work ok with MLV 2.0 & Raw 1.0 (edit: with Feb16/2014 nighty build)
This is not the case with Raw 1.0 while mlv 2.0 has a pink cast ,there is no problem with Original Raw 1.0 while recording raw video.
I also check Jan.29/2015 nightly build and this is the case , mlv pink cast preview in crop mode while recording & with Raw1.0 color preview while recording .

I also when back to the old nighty builds I have and the full color with proper framing  in crop mode while record raw has been working with raw ver 1.0
since early Sept/2014.
I will post a video to show this a little later as I'm deep in a project right now, give me a day or two . Most likely late Saturday Afternoon .
Sorry for any confusion .  :D

appreciate it! I tried the latest build and I get the same pink cast that I've gotten using RAW 1.0.  I'm really curious what it could be that's giving me this problem!

Do 5d MkII will benefit in raw video recording with ML using a 1066x CF card instead of a 1000x CF card ? Does anyone tested this ?

@dlrpgmsvc,  Yes I have.
I have a Lexar 1066x 64 GB here a link to a post I wrote with testing, very impressive card .
I would say about 15- 20% increase in speed if not more.
fast enough to maintain 79.9 MB/s @ 1920x1038 Crop mode Continuous on Raw ver 1.0 Oct/24/2013 build
and with MLV , far more stable at high resolutions e.g. 1872*936 /23.976fps Continuous (with buffer fill rate "4") and 
the ability to have ML overlays(scopes etc..) on while recording raw video plus HDMI enabled to a monitor/recorder
with out dropping frames.
Before on my Lexar 1000x I could record 1872*936 but not with overlays or HDMI enabled
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11205.msg136460#msg136460

5DMk2 doesn't load ML...
Just picked up a second 5Dmk2- pretty beat up.  Updated firmware to 2.1.2.  Will not boot up ML.  Settings are identical to first body.  Have not found any regular function that does not work yet.  The indicator light by the "set" dial shows it simply does not boot up ML.
Anyone have similar problems?  Thoughts?  Something to check?
thx

Top of page -> Downloads -> Browse Nightly Builds -> 5D2.212
Follow instructions.

Thanks for helping with the brain fart. 

@reddeercity: many thanks! So I will definitely buy a 1066x CF! Also, do you (or others) know if the fastest 1066x CF card is the 32, 64 or 128 gb model? This is crucial in my choice! Many thanks again and in advance!

@gtsofilms here's the Video I promised about 3x Crop mode full color framing.
Used my beloved Feb 16th/2014 nightly build , hope this helps  ;D

Oh... I was really happy to install the lastest ML version to start my raw recordings but i had a problem. With the new version you can find important problems in normal h264 mov recordings (normal bitrate)... During a film several frames were enlightened in a pair of shoots... :o I hope I'll be able to fix it with colorist work because there were only a pair of single frames with this problem... So i decided desinstall it and go back to the last stable version becuse it is a serious problem I'm afraid... I'll try my luck with the new nightly built version!
Even so... thank you very mutch for this ML work!

Another problems I found:
A pink distorsion in crop mode during the raw recording... (edited: ok, i saw there are ways to solve it)
Why removing the auto mode in overexpose?
Data values are really small on display. It's hard to read them, at least for me

Another question: Can be dangerous updating and downgradind many times the ML diferent versions?

reddeercity - thanks so much!! that was so helpful.  :)

Hey guys I promise I searched for at least 10 minutes before I started typing my question to avoid repeats. Alas, the information I cannot find and just want to be sure. I'm about to try to use ML for raw video on my 5D2, but wanted to make sure I was clear on how it works.

My question is this.. So when I install the ML firmware on my Lexar 1066x card, the card runs ML when it's in but if I switch back to a completely different card the camera will function as normal? So basically you make 'ML cards'?

I want to be able to switch seamlessly back to just shooting photos on the standard canon firmware with the cards I've already been using for years if possible. Then switch to RAW video on a ML card.

Thoughts? Also, appreciate the information from the ML community. Gratitude :)

I was also wondering if the nightly builds are the only ones available? I couldn't find a section for 'stable releases'
Can anyone link me?

"So when I install the ML firmware on my Lexar 1066x card, the card runs ML when it's in but if I switch back to a completely different card the camera will function as normal? So basically you make 'ML cards'?"

Yes. You can also start the camera without loading ml if you hold in the "set" button while it is turning on.

Thanks for that info, Im working on some stuff right now.. No lights yet, but after midterms I have some pretty cool Ideas and was looking for people to collaborate on with some music stuff.. I AM however having to get rid of some color artifacting with the 2014.2.14 build.. Maybe it's not so good in low light with a zeiss 50mm planar1.4?
Thoughts? Anyone want to do something awesome? I can get gallery and press for free through my school B)

Hi I've just installed magiclantern-Nightly.2015Mar25.5D2212.zip but now my top dial button isn't functioning. Any ideas?

Remove battery, remove card. Insert battery and startup. Is dial working now?

I'm new to Magic Lantern but i've been reading lots of info about it. What i can't find any info about is how to make a low level format in the 5d mk2? I don't have that option in my camera. Second thing is if i need to have a stable version on the card before i put the nightly build on it? In some instruktions it seems like it and sometimes it don't.

First page -> first post -> fresh and valid installation instructions.

Okay, så just a ordinary format? Sorry, don't want to break my camera. :S

Don't install ML then.

@wman, You didn't save what your platform , PC or Mac ?
If you what to do a low level format in Windows7 etc... on the Cf-card right click to  format option Un Check the Quick Format option box.
That works up to 32GB Card for Fat32 but if you have a 64+ size cf-card that won't work as win os will not format a larger then 32 GB to fat32  it's only option will be
NTFS or exFat. I use a free HP utility called  "HP USB Storage Format tool" link --> http://en.kioskea.net/faq/4434-formatting-your-usb-flash-drive-with-hp-usb-storage-format-tool
And of course you format in your Camera Also.

Quote from: Arwen on April 01, 2015, 01:05:21 AM
hi, I seem to have a problem with the latest nightly build (29.03)

You may change cam's date to 02.04.2015 (DD.MM.YYYY)

Ouch. Got the same thing. Also got the blue screen. First some "funny" thing about taking a picture of the calendar of todays date... then the one with "bricked in it". Could not read, because it was flickering, and I figure to pull the battery instead.

Restarted it and Camera works, but It has been altered (bricked?) because I cannot get the ML to show up in LV.
Tried to restore camera settings, but this does not change anything. Tried booting camera with other card (old ML version), but same thing happens here. Pressing LV gives me live view, but no magic lantern. I can get to ML-menu by pressing trash, but I don't want to mess around anymore.

What is best practice from here? Install Canon original firmware before going back to old ML?

HAHA first of april :D
Best prank ever

The live-view thing was due to my resetting of settings... well its too late now. need to sleep. I got fooled.

Bye

I am in live view mode,I did everythng as written in ML and still can't record in raw,it says "this feature only works in movie mode"
I have a 5d mark 2 camera,help :)

Under second tab in ML-menu "Expo" at the bottom, chose LV Display: Movie.
There is also a manual to be read under User Guide at the top right of this page.

Sorry for the newbie and perhaps irresponsible question as I just found Magic Lantern and this forum, etc.!

First, I want to say THANK YOU MAGIC LANTERN.

Do you think 1920 X 1080 24 fps will eventually be available in RAW for the 5D MKII? Right now that format is only available for the 5D MKIII or am I mistaken?

Thank you again so much

The sensor size limits us from 1920x1080 without using crop mode. 1856x1044...We are really only talking about a few dozen pixels in either axis, so if you up-res in AE or something, it is really not noticeable. There is a thread called "current raw capabilities" that will let you know all of the maximums for all of the cameras running ML. Happy shooting!

Hello, Forgive me if this is already listed. I'm having a bit of a problem installing Magic Lantern on one of my MkII's. Both are running Canon firmware 2.1.2 However, I recently had to take one of the bodies into Canon for servicing to have the LCD replaced and noticed that the firmware is different on the two bodies now. Both are Canon firmware 2.12 however Magic lantern is no longer working on the one that was serviced. Magic Lantern seems to boot properly and I'm able to access the menus, however all the settings are greyed out. Upon further investigation I've noticed that the Custom Functions are different on both bodies in the Canon menu, Custom Function IV on the one that is not working has 7 entries, the last being "aspect ratio". On the one that is working there are only 6 entries on Custom Function IV. There is no aspect ratio. Could it be that Canon altered the firmware in any way? Any help on this would be appreciated as it is puzzling.

Cheers!
Walter

http://pel.hu/eoscard
Download firmware 2.1.2 file and run firmware update with it.
Retry ML installation and report

Hi Walter, I've reinstalled Magic Lantern and it's still the same, Magic Lantern loads, but all the settings are greyed out. For some reason the Canon firmware is different on two identical cameras, although they both show the same version in the about box "2.1.2". This is something I have not come across before and I'm puzzled. I've checked all the settings in the Canon firmware line by line on both bodies and they are identical with the exception of C.FnIV has an extra setting that the working one doesn't have; and that is a 7th entry under C.FnIV labeled "aspect ratio". I'm wondering if the replacement LCD has something to do with this. Can you please check to see if you body has this "aspect ratio" setting under the Canon Firmware menu? Thanks very much from one Walter to another  ;)

Did you or did you not reinstall Canon's firmware version 2.1.2?

Hi Walter,

Reinstalled on both bodies and still the same. A1ex PM'd me on this and I uploaded ROM dumps from both bodies along with screenshots of the differences in the C.FnIV menu's. I'll let you know what I hear from him.

Thanks again,

Walter

I'm trying to record a 30fps LED/video light source.  At 30 fps, ML or my camera's deeper logic (not sure which) I get a maximum shutter speed of around 1/33.  This causes causes moving bands to appear both during monitor and record.  I would like 1/30th.

I saw there was a feature for fine tuning the shutter speed, but 5DII does not appear to have this capability.

Strangely, there have been times where I get 1/30 shutter speed - I was playing around with the mode wheel -- moving from Manual -> Av -> Tv -> Program and magically the bands went away and I was getting 1/30 shutter speed.  I haven't been able to replicate this.

It seems that there is some setting of FPS_OVERRIDE that with a particular resolution would give me 30fps with 1/30.  I will be capturing RAW, which means that I will be using some fraction of the frame.

Try to use exposure override. Not sure about this particular case, but this feature enables shutter speeds close to 1/25 at 25 fps (while Canon firmware is limited to 1/30).

FPS override will also alter the shutter speed. You could try adjusting the FPS timers manually, until you match both the FPS and the shutter speed (on 5D2, both timers alter the shutter speed as well). The math behind this is described in fps-engio.c, get_current_shutter_reciprocal_x1000.

Exposure override worked!  Once it was turned on, I was offered a 1/30.06 shutter speed which entirely removed the banding.  Thank you. :D

Hello.

Magic Lantern for 5DMii 2.1.2 not available for download - error message This Build Failed.

First time user, can anyone assist me please?

Thanks.

On https://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/ after choosing the correct camera click on "Show Older Builds" and choose the next one.

Guys, where can I find out what is the latest STABLE build for 5D MK II and where do I download it?  When I click downloads all I can find is nightly releases.  I don't want nightly releases, I want the latest most stable most recommended version?

Old stable version is not recommended by devs anymore.
So make up your mind about what you want because you contradict yourself.

I have activated ML on my 5D2. I can only access the ML program and menus when I have the card with ML firmware card in the camera. Once I remove it I lose all ML info. How do I retain ML in my 5D2 in order to use it? OR.....do I have to have ML on every CF I will be shooting with to utilize it while shooting? Thanks.

FAQ, Installation Guide, User Guide.

Gotcha...

Quote from: bci123 on May 27, 2015, 05:10:24 PM
Guys, where can I find out what is the latest STABLE build for 5D MK II and where do I download it?  When I click downloads all I can find is nightly releases.  I don't want nightly releases, I want the latest most stable most recommended version?

This is the same question I have. Although the above author may not have made his question perfectly clear, it is my understanding the nightly releases are still betas with new tweaks on an ongoing basis. What I think both he and I are looking for is any release, nightly,  or any other that is confirmed to be the most recent and fully tested and stable release for the MK2.

What I want to avoid is installing a release that hasn't been fully stable and tested and I believe some of the nightly releases may not be fully stable until some time has gone by to test them.

So how can one choose a release and know if it is fully stable or not?

Can one simply choose a nightly release that is previous to the most recent release and assume that any older release is stable? Or is there another methodology for selecting the most recent stable release?

Cheers...

Chimping,

The nightlies are generally considered here to be the preferred builds. As with any new software, there may be surprises. There is no designated QA crew; that would be you and I and whoever else. You can look for bugs people are reporting. My recommendation would be to download a nightly and test it thoroughly. You know better than anyone else what your requirements are.

Thank you Frank. I had actually downloaded a nightly a few weeks ago and I am running the 2015 May 03 nightly. I have not discovered any problems with it as far as I am aware and it seems stable to me. But the issue is if there was a bug I might not even recognize it since I am completely new to ML. So I would not make a good beta tester for QA assurance purposes. So that is why I was hoping for an experienced and advanced MKII user to say which one they know to be quite stable. That would be perhaps more helpful than downloading a build and trying to guess if it is working correctly or not since I don't have a point of measure or reference to say whether the build is good or not at this point.

Also, going from memory it seems there were some overlays for sound levels and histogram that I think were present when I first started using it, but they don't appear to be present now any longer. Again, I am not experienced to really say what's happening. It is likely an operator error on my part and not an error with the build. But I tried resetting everything back to original ML settings and I still can't seem to bring back the original overlays I recall seeing when I first installed. Perhaps they weren't the standard overlays I saw which  I had inadvertently enabled at one point and then perhaps removed again them without realizing it and that's why I think they have gone missing.

In this case is there also perhaps a detailed ML setup or configuration guide somewhere for the MKII which includes screenshots by any chance?

I watched a good video on Vimeo by a young film maker named David Kong, but he was shooting with a different Canon body (the 550 I think) so I assume his overlays are going to be different and perhaps camera specific.

Cheers...

Regarding the overlays, I figured out the issue. I had pressed the info button which reduced the overlays to nearly nothing in live view mode. Now that I pressed the info button again all the overlays are back for histogram, sound levels, etc.

Hi All
New to the forum although been using ML for some time. Mostly for TimeLapse work. Thanks for awesome work.

Just installed the magiclantern-Nightly.2015Apr28.5D2212 - wanted to check the settings in Deflicker module and can't find XMP to choose. Just UFRaw. As I work with LR I need XMP. Any idea? Is it a bug or just something went wrong during installation?  :o

Cheers  ;)

Downloaded and reinstalled again. Everything works.  :)

new to magic lantern and installation went great yesterday and today I went to use it with the new 1000x card and ML was gone from the computer so I did a reinstall and now I cant seem to activate the RAW function. I followed the exact directions on this forum and when i go into modules and click ok will load, and then i reboot , it still says ok will load?

Thanks
C

This will happen if you're not giving ML enough time to shut down properly.
Shut down, wait for 5 seconds.
Power on cam.
Status?

Hi all,

I own a 5D2 and a EOS-M.  The EOS-M ML firmware allows recording in crop mode but with standard recording.  It looks great in crop mode, and is an easy way to extend the effective length of the lens. 

I know the current 5DII supports 3X crop in raw, but is there any way to get it to work in standard H.264 mode? 

Currently no, but there are some promising findings here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10111.msg145036#msg145036

It's likely to be similar to 500D.

I am trying to install the newest NB on my 5D2 following the instructions, accurately. After preparing the card with the ML files I press the install new firmware version button as required. Then, the install new firmware message appears very shortly and the red LED blinks quickly for around 3 seconds and the process hangs up indefinitely. Complete black out. The camera is not responsive. Removing the battery the camera boots up normally and the Canon 2.1.2 seems untouched. Any idea what can be the problem?

Top of page -> User Guide -> Install Guide

Thank you, I read the guide thoroughly and made everything recommended. No result, ML does not want to boot in my camera. Lost my hope.

Everything included installing Canon's firmware v2.1.2 downloaded using given link?

Yes, I reinstalled the native 2.1.2 again for sure (fresh download). The camera and the installation process behave quite probabilistically. Sometimes the whole firmware installation hangs up (with red LED on) before the sensor cleaning in the boot process could start and the camera becomes unresponsive, only battery reset helps. Sometimes the ML installation process seems to finish normally, red LED is off and the sensor cleaning cycle starts ... then nada. In this case the camera is responsive, and when I bring up the Canon menu it says that current firmware is "2.1.2-ml". The ML menu, however, cannot be actuated by the trash button. When resetting (off-on cycle) the firmware reverts to the original 2.1.2. No idea.

Can you try the new installer from here? (replace the FIR)
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/631/new-installers

If it still doesn't work, can you record a video of the install process?

Thank you guys. I will document the case on video, however, I have a planned tour for the next week (I was happy to try ML in the first time, I am a HDR shooter). When I come back I will allocate more time for the resolution. In the meantime I will be stuck with the hated 3 frames bracketing. Shame yourself Canon.
THX for your help.

^ Have you tried using it with another CF card? Perhaps there is an issue with the CF card you are using.

Also, you may know this already, but after the install completes you need to turn the camera off and back on before the 20 second timer runs out on the ML install menu or it won't run. So as soon as it says install complete then turn your camera off and back on immediately. Don't take the card out yet either. So power off the camera, power it back on, wait a few seconds, then press the camera's menu button once, then press the trash can. See if that works. Just trying to offer ideas...

Hi,
Longterm ML user, I've always used the many functions for stills.
It's invaluable on the way I shoot now.
Never tried it for video.
Actually, never really used the video mode in my 5DMkII.
Shame too, it looks like I will be now.
My neice can sing really good!
Now I'm wanting to get a really good external audio recording device.

I have been trying the nighly builds and MLV_Rec using an old Transcend UDMA 32GB 400x card.
Needless to say, it doesn't work worth a flip, I was getting REALLY frustrated.
I just received my new Lexar Pro 1066x 64 GB card, configured it via page one of this thread, and viola, works great!
Thanks ML team, and contributors!

Now to learn all of this stuff.
Exciting again, cool!

I've read this thread a couple of times now, and I see it confirmed that Adobe Prrmiere Elements 13 does NOT work with either of the RAW CDNG, or DNG files.
Soooo, like it, or not, and I DON'T, I guess I'll be reluctantly using Adobe Premiere Pro via the lame credit card business model, sigh...
Longtime user of Photoshop CS3, CS5, CS6, an LR, STANDALONE versions!
No, let's not polute this fine thread with all that Adobe pro/con CC discussions here, I'm just sayin' to give a semi-background intro of myself.

Thanks for listening.

CC and even the good old CS6 works great with ML files (if used proper converters) especially with AE & PP... No need to update to the latest!

How many frames per second can you record with dual iso in 5d mark II? Can you real 23,976?

Thanks

Have had a 5d2 for a while now taking stills and just started video when I discovered ML.  in playing around with the modules I discovered that the rawv1 module allowed for the longest recording time, but I can't seem to convert them into dng files in post on a windows 7 machine.  Didn't have any trouble with the ML raw module.  Any suggestions/help? 

How about some direction in finding great tutorials to help with the post processing too

http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=54.0

Quote from: Dmac802 on August 05, 2015, 06:19:37 AM
Have had a 5d2 for a while now taking stills and just started video when I discovered ML.  in playing around with the modules I discovered that the rawv1 module allowed for the longest recording time, but I can't seem to convert them into dng files in post on a windows 7 machine.  Didn't have any trouble with the ML raw module.  Any suggestions/help? 
How about some direction in finding great tutorials to help with the post processing too

On PC there a few option's but the Best is "raw2cdng" http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5618.0
The best & stable version is 1.65
MLV Viewer to view .mlv (and .raw) files on windows (C#) http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8447.0
This only convert to dng not cdng.
Here a video tutorial about raw2cdng workflow I did in Sept/2013 , It a little dated used Ver.1.30 but you should get the idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjqLWSbF4AQ

Once you have your cdng image sequences, you can edit native in Premiere Pro cc 2015 or2014 Blackmagic Davinci Resolve or you
can make a Video file with After Effect cc with ACR (the very best result's) Etc....

Hope that Help's

Hi, I'm new to ML and am having a few teething problems. I'd really appreciate some advice for experienced users. I've installed numerous nightly builds using the method at the head of this thread (currently on 01 July 15). When transferrin the files to my mac (os 10.7.5) I get Unix Executable Files named M08-1427.MLV etc rather than Raw files. I'm therefore unable to convert them using RawMagic. What am I doing wrong?
I did make some progress by installing the older 'stable build' ML and shooting Raw_Rec rather than MLV which gave me workable raw files which were all bright magenta. 
I'm not a programmer and just want to find a reliable working method for shooting raw video.
Also there have been several requests for recommendations of a reliable build, I too would love such advice although there seems to be no clear answer so far.
I realise the potential is amazing and it's free at that. I'm just totally lost with it. Any advice gratefully received.
Thanks.

RAWmagic is banned here. See http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13335.0
Either ask Rarevision or use supported workflow. http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=54

hey guys,

when i record raw videos with my 5D2 using magic lantern v. 2.1.2-ml-v2.3, i sometimes have serious problems like blue and yellow colors at bright spots. what could be the problem?

Most likely blown channel -> Channel clipping.

Hey guy what do you think go for 5D2 that already have ML or go for 7D2 and wait for ML?

hi
anyone using autoexposure succesfully with any of the builds? this is the only reason why i want to use ml. it works great in the latest build, only problem is i cannot change aperture value in Manual mode, it only works wide open while autoexposure is ON. if i rotate the aperture wheel, aperture value is flickering in the viewfinder but it does not change. is there any previous build, where this works?
thanks

Have you tried to tweak the curves? Please take a snapshot of your autoexposure diagram.

i tried default settings, haven't changed the curves. thanks!
(http://www.bekofoto.hu/ftp/ml1.jpg)
(http://www.bekofoto.hu/ftp/ml2.jpg)

Change first value for "AV Range"
Default settings will just try to do everything (well:almost, see diagram) wide open. You have to tweak it if you don't want that to happen.

i tried to change av range to many values, no change. also tried to change lens aperture, tried different lenses. similar results.
too bad, i really like this function, kinda similar to Av+auto iso on canon with wider minimum shutter speed range,i just need to change that aperture value somehow :)

Photo mode M, set "AV Range" to "f/9.5 - f/16" (just for the fun of it) and retry. Maybe you have to press shutter half for some time to make it work.

i'm in M mode, f9.5-f16 did not work either. now my minimum aperture is f10. cant go any higher or lower.
when i try to spin the wheel which changes the aperture in Manual mode, for a millisecond it shows the changed aperture, but it will reset back to the AV range's minimum value in no time..cant change the shutter speed either, same flickering issue, but it doesn't really bother me because i can set the min shutter speed value.

There seems to be some kind of misunderstanding. Autoexposure mode is Automode (P-Mode) on steroids. You have not that much a chance to set anything on the fly in M mode. Computer takes over, Skynet is activated and no John Connor around.
You may adjust parameters, that's all.

Maybe you want to take a look into "Expo Lock" instead.

i thought this was a solution for canon 5d II's stupid auto iso limit of 400 in manual mode. or not being able to change the minimum shutter speed value in Av mode with auto iso, unlike in newer canon cameras, like 6d, 70d, 5d3...
it almost works like that, but i can only set the aperture (AV range's bottom limit) in the menu? so if i want to shoot at f4 instead of f1.8 with auto iso, i have to go to the ml menu, to change the av curve...otherwise i can't change aperture value with the wheels. i thought this was a bug, and not on purpose. whats the reason for using this autoexposure mode than? its basically similar to Av+auto iso on canon without the oppurtunity to change the aperture setting on the fly.

Take a look into "Expo Lock" and report back, please.

using it with autoexposure? doesnt seem to change a thing.
if i disable autoexposure, the whole auto iso 400 limit comes back.

No, not together with autoexposure ...
Turn off Auto ISO in Canon menu and use Expo Lock.

thanks for your time btw. i have been playing with this expo lock for a while, its not the same function im looking for.
maybe we are talking about two different things.
what i am looking for is the same function as auto iso on any mirrorless camera, or nikon or newer canons. and as i can see in other 5d2 forums, many ppl switched to newer canons because of this feature.
for example in M mode, you set whatever shutter speed you like, along with any kind of aperture. you enable auto iso, and the camera will choose the suitable iso value depending on lighting conditions.
or similarly in Av mode, if you set minimum shutter speed value (auto iso menu) of 1/250, and enable auto iso in the range of 100-12800, camera will choose the suitable iso for the situation and aperture value, and makes sure shutter speed is not slower than 1/250, if it would be, it increases iso.
so you dont have to bother with setting iso in any mode, metering and the camera will take care of it...such a useful feature when shooting without flash.

but the 5dII has an autoiso high limit of 400 in M mode, and no option to change the minimum shutter speed with auto iso in Av mode, making it unusable to shoot people for example, when you need faster shutter speeds. by default in Av, auto iso on, 5d2 will choose the minimum shutter speed, according to the focal length of the used lens...1/80 for 85mm lens. not good for shooting ppl. so you have to manually set the iso in Av mode and M mode too.
canon cameras are different in this regard, for example 7d can do auto iso in M mode, without the 400 upper limit. but no minimum shutter speed feature in Av mode.
newer ones can do both...not as many options like on fuji cameras, but they work.
so i guess its not possible to unlock this auto iso 400 limit in M mode.

"or similarly in Av mode, if you set minimum shutter speed value (auto iso menu) of 1/250, and enable auto iso in the range of 100-12800, camera will choose the suitable iso for the situation and aperture value, and makes sure shutter speed is not slower than 1/250, if it would be, it increases iso.
so you dont have to bother with setting iso in any mode, metering and the camera will take care of it..."
and this is exactly what autoexposure does with ML in M mode. without the option to change the aperture on the wheel, because it will always choose widest aperture, or the lowest value of the Av range.

Hi

I have been using ML for HDR bracketing for some time and it has always worked just fine.

Started experimenting with video recently and got a set-up that I liked where burn-out areas were marked in LV, and then when I started shooting the exposure was automatically reduced to cure the burn-outs. It was excellent.

Today the expo over-ride dropped out of the menu. I removed the card and the battery without result, so downloaded the latest build and installed it. Great, I got a full set of menus.

But now, I am totally unable to get back the functionality that I appreciated before. Partly because i do not know how I got it in the first place. Is anyone able to help please?

Hi, on the 5D2.212 Magic Lantern download page I read:

Quote

• After opening the card door, always wait for LED confirmation (or for 5 seconds) before removing the card, even if your camera is turned off!!!
  
• On this camera, removing the card too fast might cause permanent damage.
  

What does it means, is removing the card too fast might cause permanent damage to the card, or permanent damage to the camera, or both?

Quote from: illwieckz on December 09, 2015, 07:08:13 AM
5D2.212.
removing the card too fast might cause permanent damage to the card, or permanent damage to the camera, or both?

You need to allow the captured data to be completely registered into the card. When the lights blinking, best wait until it's done doing what it needs to do. Do not to remove the card as you might damage the last captured file and risk losing some others too. It can take 2-3 seconds after a loong shoot.

On 5D2, removing the card too fast might cause permanent damage to the camera.

I don't know if it was already asked (or maybe I've asked it myself... can't find anything) but how raw works when using an hdmi monitor or evf? Is it the same speed/resolution? What solutions are you using?

Quote from: togg on December 10, 2015, 12:08:37 AM
how raw works when using an hdmi monitor or evf? Is it the same speed/resolution? What solutions are you using?

Works Ok with any Standard HDMI Capture device/Monitor/EVF , I regularly use my Ninja Recorder , AJA Kona Lhi Capture Card ,  Zacuto  EVF and plain old HDTV.
HDMI implements the EIA/CEA-861 standards  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEA-861) basically any 480i/p to 2160p 4:2:2/4:4:4 (60i/p) uncompressed(1.5Gb/s) native or non native Stream. 

Quote48bit (...16-bit-per-channel deep color)
36bit (...12-bit-per-channel deep color)
30bit (...10-bit-per-channel deep color)
Y444  (...4:4:4 in deep color modes)

So any native resolution would be 3840x2160p , 1920x1080p, 1280x720p,  720x480i/p etc....
But the 5D2 uses Non native resolution , which is 1650x1080 or should I say 1920x1080 with side bars so a 4:3 A.R. in stead of 16:9 A.R.
So there will be a little scaling needs to done to 16:9 image I think about 10-15% .
Out of the 5D2 HDMI port you get 1650x1080 60i 4:2:2 8bit uncompressed , no matter what resolution of Raw video .
Be aware that you should to be in NTSC not Pal , set the Canon menu frame rate to 24p there is a reason for this.
Doesn't seem to work very will with the Pal TV system for reports or other on the forum.
As there will be a 24p stream embedded in the 60i stream , with any newer HDMI capture device you can do a 3-2 pull down (also known as reverse telecine)
to get the 24p stream .
I find the most stable raw resolution while recording HDMI is 1856x928 @ 23.976 + Audio 44.1Khz (1000x CF card minimum)  depending on the Nightly Build Date.
One more thing you should be aware of is Picture Style Profiles effect  HDMI/Liveview  as it processed to 8bit , so if you what a Streaming file
that looks like HD rec709 colors use landscape or standard profiles , or what every you like.
Just my thoughts  :D

Quote from: a1exOn 5D2, removing the card too fast might cause permanent damage to the camera.

OK. Thank you for the answer. That's hurt to learn, but it's good to know... :o

Thanks reddercity!
So you think that I will be able to keep 1856x1004 @ 23.976 using the old raw module without audio? Your resolution seems the one that I can have with MLV so it should be the same.

Do you know any of these three monitors by chance?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007T9WEXG/
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0084ZY9YQ
http://www.amazon.com/Lilliput-5d-ii-1024x600-Lp-e6-Battery/dp/B007CGDJMQ

Quote from: a1ex on December 09, 2015, 09:58:36 AM
On 5D2, removing the card too fast might cause permanent damage to the camera.

Is there no solution to prevent this a1ex?
Mark on screen 'please wait before remove the card, saving data..' or something, when user open the card door?

I'm afraid not. Even if you open the card door a few hours after you turned the camera off, it will wake-up as soon as you open the door (yes, with the main switch turned off). After about 1-2 seconds, it will load autoexec.bin. If you remove the card during this process (which takes 0.5 seconds or so, depending on card speed and binary size), the camera locks up and appears to execute some random code (it won't execute anything from autoexec.bin - the first thing autoexec does is to turn on the card LED, and this never happend when I locked up the camera by removing the card too fast). More details here (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=1455.0).

There are two reports about bricked 5D2's, where users said they removed the card too fast, and this might be the problem. One of them had the ROM erased completely (just bootloader was active), so I could not find any explanation about why this happened. The other one has corrupted settings area (missing properties), and I'm still researching it (this one might have been caused by a bad shutdown or ML bug).

To make sure the camera is not executing random code, the closest thing I can do would be a minimal autoexec (just enough to boot and do some file i/o), then load ML as a module dynamically only when the main firmware started. This would just reduce the probability of removing the card while autoexec is being loaded (since we would have a smaller binary). Or, reflashing Canon bootloader code (which I'm not going to do).

Newer cameras at least turn on the LED while reading autoexec.bin.

Wahô :o Since years, after open the card door I just wait LED stops blinking before to remove the card. I thought/hope the blinking card LED trick was active. :-X

Beside, it appears that the best way is to remove the card when the camera is 'on' (power switch in 'ON' position). In this way on 5D2 it's perfectly safe (correct me a1ex if I'm wrong). Maybe it could be a important notice (?) face to the '5s waiting'. Or when we switch off the camera by opening the card door we should wait 5s too before remove the card?

An other problem would be if the same scenario appends (blinded autoexec.bin loading) in other cases; like "camera off - detach/attach lens" (because the card LED blinks while this operation)
And just to participate, "camera off - open the battery door on a grip -> card LED blinking" :/

However, since many years, just by waiting the LED stops blinking (sometimes it takes several seconds, even with a fast card), I never get problems. :)

Indeed, the safest way is to remove the card when the power switch is on. That way, the camera turns off gracefully when you open the card door, and has no reason to wake up after that.

If you detach the lens, it's quite unlikely that you remove the card at the same time. So, autoexec.bin gets loaded completely, blinks the LED, then the camera shuts down.

A warning message on the sensor cleaning screen should be a good idea for a reminder.

Quote from: togg on December 10, 2015, 10:34:25 AM
Thanks reddercity!
So you think that I will be able to keep 1856x1004 @ 23.976 using the old raw module without audio? Your resolution seems the one that I can have with MLV so it should be the same.

Yes, 1856x1004 @ 23.976p with the Old Raw will work just fine . I use to use that resolution with HDMI before MLV without any problems
That should be about 74 MB/s which is with in 5D2 CF card band width (pecks out at 80-83 MB/S)
Just a *note* start the Cam up with the HDMI Connected , it was known to crash sometimes if you plugged in after bootup , or at least it use to with old raw.
I haven check if there was still a issue with latest builds , that the reason I use MLV , more stable with HDMI and of course Audio was must from me.
Don't get me wrong Old Raw worked great with HDMI , but just aware of the fact.

I like this one Better still in the price range , I heard good thing about LILLIPUT  search the forum and there a thread about some where ,
Professional LILLIPUT 7'' 665 /O/P 665GL-70NP/HO/Y/P Color TFT LCD Monitor With HDMI (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008FJVUPW/ref=s9_simh_hd_bw_p421_d0_i4?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-2&pf_rd_r=185ATED85VJBS9K60ZFR&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=3dc4fdad-8ae9-4e5f-9285-51c8ea6d59df&pf_rd_i=7161089011)

Perfect, thanks a lot. I'll try to choose between the lillupts. Only problem is that they say that something like that (http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00SV2GWO2/ref=s9_simh_gw_p421_d0_i2) doesn't hold a 7" monitor. Grrr.


Anyway since we are on the 5d2 topic, you are using mlv@audio to have a smooth sync on post right?

Apologies for barging in.  Am finally going to take the plunge and run ML on a 5d2.   Can someone provide current advice/recommendations on suitable CF cards.  I read the older threads.  Am considering 128GB and per advice on data bus limits don't see a need to go over 1000x.   The old Komputerbay failure rate has me spooked about going that route.

thanks much,
Jim

My KB 64GB 1000X are really good. I still have not understood if the 128 ones are good for the 5D2 so I'm interested as well.

Quote from: togg on December 11, 2015, 01:19:10 PM
Perfect, thanks a lot. I'll try to choose between the lillupts. Only problem is that they say that something like that (http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00SV2GWO2/ref=s9_simh_gw_p421_d0_i2) doesn't hold a 7" monitor. Grrr.

I don't see way it shouldn't look strong enough. I have 2 of these E-Image EI-A02 10" Articulating Arm (http://www.eimagevideo.com/En/pro_detail/tid/42/id/71) Holds up my Ninja + Canon HV20(B-Cam HDMI to ProRes 422HQ) on One Arm.

Quote from: togg on December 11, 2015, 01:19:10 PM
Anyway since we are on the 5d2 topic, you are using mlv@audio to have a smooth sync on post right?

Yes mostly , I also will run the main audio from my Rhodes Zoom Mic  on Run& Gun , so now that my Main Audio I use.
Or if I need to be really compact , just basic stuff on run & gun Interviews etc.. I plug in my Sennheiser G3 Wireless Receiver
and record audio @ 48Khz or I can pass thought the audio from the Head Phone jack to a Audio Recorder like my N4h Zoom.
I do this a lot , I will take the audio from the headphone jacket and run a line in to my ninja while I master to the Camera with Raw MLV.
As there no audio in the HDMI.

That why I'll sacrifice Smaller resolution from 1880x1058 etc... in old raw to get 1872x 936 + audio 2:1 A.R. with MLV

Quote from: togg on December 11, 2015, 08:38:04 PM
My KB 64GB 1000X are really good. I still have not understood if the 128 ones are good for the 5D2 so I'm interested as well.

Yes 128 GB CF card are good to use on 5D2 http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8412.msg114580#msg114580

Quote from: 66dellwood on December 11, 2015, 07:39:23 PM
considering 128GB and per advice on data bus limits don't see a need to go over 1000x. 

No , the faster the better plus newer faster cards are getting dirt cheap.
I have a few 1000x Lexar CF's (32 & 64) and a few 1066X Lexar CF's (32&64) and the 1066x are consistently 25 to 30% faster write Speed
Specially at the Max resolutions in 3x crop mode like 2K etc...

My 1066x cards are half price of what my 1000x cards at least with Lexar.

Thanks much for the feedback.  The Lexar 128gb 1066x looks like the way to go.   Are there any practical reasons go with 64gb rather than a 128 card?

Not Really , 64 GB cards are more available in my area .
Some would make the argument ,  less chance of Card corruption  with smaller cards.
Specially on a paid job , Hate to have a crash and loose the data on a 128 GB Card . :o
I doubt that a issue these days any more.
I usually don't record more then 10-12 Min. per clip (1872x936)(interviews), so 64 GB works in my case ,
but some times I wish I had a few 128GB on some Live events thou .

Hallo!

I have just installed ML on my 7d. Works nice!

I am looking forward to buy a used 5dmkii.
On which port do I have to connect the headphones on the 5dmkii for monitoring?
On the Audio/Video OUT terminal or on the Digital terminal?

Thanks and kind regards for Vienna
Markus

Hello , Use the A/V port  Look here at 1:27 of my video tutorial for hdmi hard drive records (Atomos Ninja)
https://vimeo.com/87063254

Hi.

I still use an old build for my 5DM2 from: 24.Oct 2013 with good performance.
On an upcoming project i need ML again - is there any new and STABLE RAW build for my old 5DM2?
HDMI monitoring would be nice!

Thnx

The latest nightly build should be Ok for your needs,  I have being using .MLV  format for a sometime
with HDMI monitoring/capturing . but for what you are use to in .raw format you will be limited to 1856x928 @ 23.976p with HDMI
I use a older build with 1872x936 and with 1066x cf card which just about max, the card write speed. with out frame drop continuous recording
So depends on your requirements I guess.

Thank you for your help!

I installed magic lantern, video mode switch got disabled. looks like its permanently disabled it.  even after uninstalling ML my video more is not working.

is there any chance it can be fixed. any help will be great.

Do you have a backup of your ROM files created during installation?

i did not take a back up of the rom. I uninstalled the ML .. still having the same problem

Do you have \ML\Logs\ROM0.BIN and ROM1.BIN?

i dont have any of those :(

Reset cam to factory defaults (including C.Fn settings), retry and report.
And please explain what you mean by "video mode switch". 5D2 doesn't have a physical button/switch for this setting. Only in menu.

I meant live view .. that's got disabled.
when click on the live mode button it doesn't show video in the display.
also im not able to change resolution or aspect ratio , it shows in grey color and NA.

i will reset to factory settings.

I reset the camera using this method
    Press the MENU button.
    Select the [Tools #4] tab.
    Select [Clear All Camera Settings].
    Press the SET button.
    Select [OK].
    Press the SET button.

Still live mode is not working. am i missing anything?

Please reset C.Fn settings as well.
Is video recording working?

HI
I reset that rest and installed ML again , now live mode is working.

thanks alot , i appreciate ur help.   

Im using komputer bay 1000x cf udma 7. .. while recording after 10 sec record symbol turned to yelllow and at 25 second recording stopped .
is there any way can increase the recording duration at 1920? any specific cf card may help?

thanks

No, the cam's limit won't allow higher data rates. http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14909.msg144517#msg144517

thanks alot

Hallo guys,

thanks for help to Walter Schulz and reddeercity.
ML works nice on my 5dii/7d. I love magic zoom and
headphone monitoring. The 5dii is a great cam
with ML. Thanks to a1ex an the other developers.

I found this adapter http://www.mts-shop.eu/nicht-zugeordnet/IT-und-Elektronik/Kabel-fuer-Computer-und-Peripherie/Kabeladapter/InLine-Audio-Adapter-3-5mm-Klinke-Buchse-Stereo-an-2x-Cinch-Buchse::13738.html (http://www.mts-shop.eu/nicht-zugeordnet/IT-und-Elektronik/Kabel-fuer-Computer-und-Peripherie/Kabeladapter/InLine-Audio-Adapter-3-5mm-Klinke-Buchse-Stereo-an-2x-Cinch-Buchse::13738.html)
for the 5dii to use headphone monitoring.

Thanks and kind regards from Vienna
Markus

Hey guys im wondering if I upgrade from the mk ii to the mk iii if I will get longer higer resolution raw video with ML? Im only getting about 30 seconds of 1800x900 footage right now.. I need to be able to shoot 1080p for at least a full minute.. Thoughts? Thanks!

I have followed both the instructions as well as a tutorial video on this. Im sure its still user error but once I have formatted the card, installed ML on the card and place it back in the camera and check the version, the camera does not ask if I want to update the firmware. It states I need to install a card that has an update. Has anyone else dealt with this?

Forget tutorial video. Most likely it's outdated.
Top of page -> Downloads -> Download nightly builds -> 5D2.212 -> Follow instructions there.

Ok...tried that option...even cleared card, reformatted, cleared DL and reloaded it and still camera will not show any options for update. Followed step by step. Has anyone else experienced this?

Card size?
Show contents of card's root directory.

"Not show any option for update"? Clarify, please: Is there no firmware update menu item in Canon menu or does the cam tell you there is no firmware file? If first: You are in photo M mode?

Card is 128g Lexar Professional 1066x

The Camera says "Memory card containing firmware is required to update" But if I put it back in my reader I can see all the files.

Snapshot showing card's root directory, please.
Try using a smaller card.

When I shot at 3x crop mode I got a black band at the right of the frame. This is normal? There is a solution?

(http://fotos.subefotos.com/1d97d8257c92311472948d59ee7d456bo.jpg)

I have researched all over and activated the mlv_re feature as well as the mlv_snd feature on my t5i. I have the rode video mic turned on but yet when I press record. It still says sound disabled. What could be causing this?

Hello,
Is the first page on this thread regarding enabling raw video (5D2) still current? For example, it mentions, "Modules like MLV Sound(mlv_snd.mo..." I don't even see a module called "mlv_snd.mo"  In any case I seem to be doing something wrong. I compared what I thought was a raw enabled video to one taken on a card without Magic Lantern and they look the same. Did a lot of searching and can't find an answer. Thanks for any replies.

Yes pretty much , did you download the latest nightly build ?
Did you enable 14 bit Raw/MLV Video module  ?
Did you Set up raw video frame resolution ?
No to All the above ?
I'm betting you didn't , :P raw file have a extension of .mlv or .raw
if you got a .mov file then you need to do some reading of this thread among other's

Lucky guess.  :D
I now have a .MLV and a .tmp in my 100EOS5D folder.
Last time I tried this I had .RAW files.
...confused...
Do you have a thread option for me to follow from here on out for Mac processing?
And Thank You Very Much for the reply!

Perhaps you can look into either MLP or MLVFS (they work together virtually well) believe it or not ... They both work great on Mac's.

Thanks Jedi!  I'll give it a try.

... just noticed that I cant enable focus peaking while shooting raw video with the modules enabled as advised on the first page of this thread. Tried searching but can't find anything dealing with it. Any thoughts on how I can fix this?

Sounds like you forgot to allow Global Draw to be enabled on during recording ... Check inside the Modules under Video section within ML menu.

Do you mean under the overlay menu? Because there it says Global Draw is on - however it's not illuminated.

[EDIT] OK - focus peaking is working but I am curious why Global Draw is on but not illuminated. Sorry if that's too much of a noob question.

There is one under the Overlay Menu but also there's one under Movie>Raw Video (MLV) then click on 'Q' which will take you inside MLV module and then you can enable 'Allow' for Global Draw to be on while recording.

Thanks, Jedi.
I'm still perplexed though. I haven't changed any settings but this last time when I looked at Global Draw under the Overlay menu it WAS illuminated. Oh well - in any case focus peaking seems to be working now. The next trick will be to get the camera raw filter in After Effects to edit more than just the first dng in the sequence. ...back to the search menu I guess...  unless someone here knows the answer!  :D :) :D

I think You can't edit more than the first image in a raw sequence with CR filter in AE. It just loads it as a sequence and adds that correction to each frame - unless You already have a XMP setting for each. To create one - You can open them in PS - just select a group or all and drop them in PS. Then in the Camera RAW there you can edit groups (by selecting several frames) or individual frames (khm-khm) and when youre ok with the corrections - click (DONE). This will create XMP file for each individual RAW file. Then when editing this RAW sequence in AE it will respect each individual frame XMP file. Still if You don't have a XMP for some - the settings made for the first frame will be applied.

Hello everyone.
From this post:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16854.0 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16854.0)

I would like to hear from some testers to know if I'm going in the right direction.

So, for those who want to try dual_iso.mo for the 5D2 and video mode:

https://bitbucket.org/waza57/magic-lantern/downloads/dual_iso.mo (https://bitbucket.org/waza57/magic-lantern/downloads/dual_iso.mo)

I think it's not yet perfect because sometimes the Screen freezes.
when it's appear I must to restart (take off the battery first) and disable dual iso to restart again.
I have to continue to improve this.
At your own risk of course

Is there a 4:3 mode for anamorphic shooting? I can't find any info on it. And can it desqueeze in live view? I appreciate the info!

Hello,

On the first page of this thread, reply #5, there's a list of recording times. When "continuous" is mentioned in the chart, is it truly continuous or is the camera still limited to the 12 or so minutes of recording?

http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14644

Not sure about 4 GB limit with RAW_REC.mo, though.

No , it depend on how fast the CF Card  ,There is no limit but wait a minute are you talking about H264 Or 14bit Raw ?
If raw then no limit , the only limit is your CF card speed .
No mater if the format is MLV or .Raw .
The longest take I took on my 5D2 was 16 min @ 1872x936 (55GB) for a interview
but at smaller frame size you can record longer

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16650.msg162823#msg162823

Quote from: reddeercity on April 06, 2016, 07:49:13 AM

The longest take I took on my 5D2 was 16 min @ 1872x936 (55GB) for a interview
but at smaller frame size you can record longer

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16650.msg162823#msg162823

Now that I think about it, I probably don't want to do an hour interview in MLV if you have 55GB after only 16 min! I need a second camera so I can edit out when the 4GB limit is reached. And they say boats are holes in the water you pour money into. HA! ... if they only knew.  ::)

hi guys new to ML as you may guess :-)

I am having a little difficulty understanding the tables here and how to select RAW in the ML or native 5D mk ii menu.

Dont be shy to give me a quick brief you guys :-)

Great work!

Kindly, D

Click! (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+enable+raw+recording+in+magic+lantern)

Thanks Walter - maybe I have the wrong build but I was referring to 4K RAW?

QuoteI was referring to 4K RAW?

4k RAW timelapse?  :o

No problem: Press shutter and you have almost 6k. In photo mode.
In movie mode with MLV/RAW: Enter video/movie mode and press Zoom button for crop mode. Now adjust resolution.
No 4k there? Well, that's because ML can do wonders up to a limit.
And continuous recording in DCI 4k (24 fps) would require about 345 MByte/s and 5D2 would need 4 card slots to master this.

Where do you get the info 5D2 should be able to do this? Timelapse will be possible, though. See FRSP.

Hi Walter - getting a little confused.

I have a 5D sr for large stills.

The race for 4K video has often referred to Magic Lantern as a good hack to 4K video -
Did I jump to conclude the 5D2 can do it and its the 5D3 really ? MOV or RAW?

Quote from: Luke Woods on April 17, 2016, 09:20:00 PM
The race for 4K video has often referred to Magic Lantern as a good hack to 4K video -

And who is actually telling this after April, 1st? Links, please.
And don't point me to some stuff blown up to 4k in post or timelapse. We are talking about 4k@24, I suppose.

Another thread about this: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16732.0

Ok  8) looks like I am mistaken - thanks for your time all the same.

I will have to look up RAW shooting - and h.264
No idea about that :-) If you know a good source would be appreciative.

This looks like a good start https://goo.gl/Xct4pn

Cheers, L

Apologies if this is a dumb question but is there a way to record in say 720p but not with a crop factor higher than 1.00? Just looking to record a smaller file but still need the width of the frame.

Is there any way to realistically record RAW for minutes at a time on a 5D2? I'm willing to invest in the heaviest duty cards, but even with a 1000x 128GB CF, I've heard you can't record more than a few seconds.

Quote from: JakeEllerbrake on May 15, 2016, 01:18:25 AM
Is there any way to realistically record RAW for minutes at a time on a 5D2?  I've heard you can't record more than a few seconds.

Really ! you can't be serious right .  And when did hear this about the 5D2 ?
Did you even take the time to search the for your answer ?
Maybe a good start would be to Read the first page of the 5D2 thread and go from there.

Hi Everyone,

just installed a new ML version to my 5Dmk2 to test out raw shooting. I've completely followed a tutorial and installed the 63b2f145cb3b.zip file, which is the 2014-02-14 version.
It installed well, but after putting the raw_rec.mo ON, after rebooting nothing happens. It still shows the same message: will load at next reboot and no raw settings appears at the camera section.

What did I wrong? Thanks for helping out!

Don't mix up stuff intended to be used with nightly builds and totally outdated installation instructions.
Format card in cardreader, format card in cam and proceed as described here:
Top of page -> Downloads -> Download nightly builds -> 5D2.212

I'm still new to magic lantern and the 5D mark ii, I'm enjoying reading the development threads, 10 or 12 bit raw sounds very exciting. Ive been wondering though, why has the resolution been limited to 1856 from 1872(or 1880)? any chance of it going back? I have searched the forum for answers, but I couldn't find anything relevant, although I'm sure I'll someone will tell me that I don't know how to search. Also playing around with silent pictures the resolution is not the standard canon 5616, but 5632, and according to mlrawviewer, 5792, so if the sensor really has 5792 pixels width, could the mark ii potentially get full 1080p raw? as 5792/3 ≈ 1930

Wish I had development skills.

Thanks :D

Quote from: Ilia3101 on June 11, 2016, 06:31:49 PM
Ive been wondering though, why has the resolution been limited to 1856 from 1872(or 1880)?

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=17095.msg165793#msg165793

Quote from: Ilia3101 on June 11, 2016, 06:31:49 PM
could the mark ii potentially get full 1080p raw? as 5792/3 ≈ 1930

Nope. 1080p available in crop mode, though.

I'm sorry, maybe it's obvious, but I haven't found anything with a search function here about a topic.

When monitoring sound during live view on 5D2 I only hear left channel, is it a problem of my very camera, or it's normal and I mis a cable with some special wiring? (rca to phone jack adapter or a sesscom cable - don't have clue what is it, or what the wiring inside should be, respectively)

I loaded the last nightly build 2016-06-13 and I can't take RAW Video or MLV.
I reformatted my card in PC and in camera load the modules erased settings in menu and put video settings nothing worked. I can record video but noy RAW or MLV ones ...

On the ML menu I have RAW video On, 0x0 for MLV the same. On, 0x0 I can't choose any resolution. (I did before and recorded already in RAW or MLV.

I have two cards san disk Extreme pro 32 gb.

If no answer I will try an older build and see. :))

Thanks in advance.

Activate MLV_REC.mo.
Activate movie recording in Canon menu! Manual Chapter 7 "Preparing to Shoot Movies"
Restart cam.
Movie tab -> RAW video (MLV) ON

Report results.

@Walter Schulz
Thank you for your answer Walter :)
movie recording Canon menu > done
mlv-rec.mo > done
restart > done
RAW video (MLV) ON > done

I got :
RAW video (MLV) ON, 0x0  in gray color and not white (At the bottom, written in orange "This feature only works in video mode" despite the fact that I'm already on video mode on the LCD

When I put "Q" key i got :
Resolution 0x0 in gray color

If I want to choose a resolution (any of them from 640 to 3520) I got :
At the bottom the statement : "resolution" is not possible in current video mode (maw 0) and the same phrase in orange. Despite the fact that the video mode on Canon menu is 1920x1080 24 im/s

I get the same results for RAW recording.

An if I want to the take a video, it's the Canon menu that works. 1920x1080 24 im/s H264.

I already tried older builds even the the ones with which I've already took RAW MLV videos. It doesn't work either.

I made a benchmark with the card on read and write it's ok (buffer 16384k, global draw on, write : 86.6 MB/s, read : 103.9 and 3906k w:78.6 and r: 94.5)

Don't know what went wrong ?

Thanks :)

@ Walter Schultz
I just saw something which may be not normal.

When I format from Canon menu it reinitialise the ML from exec.bin instead of erasing it to return to Canon firmware. I have always the ML nightly instead of Canon menu only.

If I remember well When I format from the camera it erases ML configuration and turns back to Canon menu.

This is what I'm going to make :
- Erase ML setup and exec.bin on PC
- Reinitialise on the camera and put the new build 2016July09 (That's a build done on my birthday there has to be some kind of gift on it ! Doesn't it ;)) )
- And I'll comeback with the results.
Thanks :)

Thank you for your latest post "How to semi-brick your cam".

Please read screen messages and Top of page -> User Guide -> Install Guide and FAQ.
And: No, you don't remember well.

Thank you for your help Walter.

@walter
Well It's done :))

Hi everyone. I'm new to the forum and I'm stuck on installing ML on the Mark2 for the first time. I followed every direction and step I could find for preparing/installing, current Canon firmware is installed, all files from ML zips placed into CF card root folder, watched videos on installing, etc. I also made my CF card (Delkin 32gb UDMA 7 1000x) DSLR bootable from Macbooter just in case. I have tried various nightly builds, and nothing is working. Here is the message I see everytime I try to install it:
"Firmware update program: Update file cannot be found. Please check the memory card and reload the battery and try again."

What am I missing here? Any help, tips are greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!

Format card in cam.
Copy extracted nightly build contents to card.
Run firmware update.
Report results.

@Walter Schulz

Thanks for replying! I did those steps numerous times before with no luck. I don't know what I'm missing, here.

Show a screenshot of card's root directory.

Make sure you format CF card in Camera
Then take CF card out of camera
Put in CF card reader
Then install nightly build
Put back in camera
Then go to firmware update
Then update then follow installed memos.....

Hi all,

Did anyone get dual iso working on the 5D2?
I've used dual_iso.mo, it's created dual iso MLV but nothing seems to be able to accurately process the images.
The interlaced MLV's then dng's look like normal pre-processed dual iso images but then when I process them they turn low res and the colour goes crazy...
I've tried MLP, MLVFS, lightroom.
Any ideas?

Try latest cr2hdr first.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7139.0
If it doesn't work upload misbehaving Dual-ISO file (unprocessed) somewhere and link it here.

If mlvfs won,t work I doubt it will work at all with that file. MLP runs with the latest cr2hdr version but it has no support for 5D mark II  afaik.

I had some mixed-luck with MLP!  I haven't tried it for a few months, but I think MLP was the only one that produced a non-interlaced HDR image.

I've been testing & using Dual ISO Video since March/'16  This is the cr2hdr experimental  that works for 5d2 when Dual ISO Video got implemented I put it in my dropbox link below
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s68ti20q17sc57n/cr2hdr_experiment_2016-03-17.zip?dl=0
there both PC & Mac Version , I have no problem extraction processed dual ISO frames with MLVFS PC or Mac , I like the PC's BarracudaGUI for processing dual iso frames very fast.
Here's the start of the thread  BarracudaGUI for cr2hdr dual iso raw post-processing (Windows XP/7/8) (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9102.msg85862#msg85862)  and here the download link to all versions https://bitbucket.org/0xsepa/barracudagui/downloads/

There are limitations to dual ISO video on 5d2 so please read thought Video - dual iso for 5D2  (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16854.msg164124#msg164124)  thread e.g. like liveveiw freeze up , FYI there's really only 2 maybe 3 ISO ranges that are effective
( 100-800 , 100-1600 & 200-1600 ) 200-1600 can be a problem to process , had some issue so mainly use 100-800 and sometimes 100-1600 but 1600 tens to be too noisy for my likening

Greetings! Last month I posted a couple messages with issues installing ML on my 5D2. I have followed all steps from the instructions on this site and from a few of you that replied, but with no luck. So, instead of posting more messages or pics, I went ahead and posted a video of me going through the motions. Hoping this helps out! Thanks in advance!

Hello Everyone. I have two quick questions when running ML on a 5D Mark II please:

1 - I have focus peaking enabled in ML, but when I have the lens set to manual focus, and I am using live view, I don't see any focus peaking lines. Do I need to enable something else in order to get the focus peaking working?

2 - When I zoom now on a photo that has already been captured by the camera it first zooms all the way in to 100% zoom in one single click, rather than by small increments. It used to zoom in small increments a little at a time before I installed ML I believe. Is there a way to set the zoom to work the default way that it used to (in small increments) when running Magic Lantern?

Cheers...

Quote from: ted ramasola on March 27, 2014, 09:00:05 AM

hey guys, according to ted ramasola's guide (see above, from the 3rd post in this thread), it should be possible to record *.mlv with sound @ 25 fps in 1728x972 ... but how do i set this resolution?

the "RAW video (MLV)"-submenu doesn't show any options between "1600" and "1920" (neither in full mode, nor in 3x crop mode - see screenshot below); also i'm not able to locate other menu items for setting custom resolutions.



i'm quite sure there is an easy solution but I can't see the wood for the trees. my searches in this forum and elsewhere didn't turn up much ...

thank you!

@mz  Without opening the menu up like that, use the scroll wheel on top of the camera to adjust the resolution in increments of 32 pixels.

@mz , I give you a hint A.R. (Aspect Ratio)  ;)

@Ilia3101: now that was easy ... thank you so much!
@reddeercity: it also works in 16:9  :)

Hello!

I just installed Magic Lantern on my 5d mkii.
In the EXPO tab, iso settings, i can select iso 100 to 12800.
Why not 25600?

Thanks in advance, Thomas

@nexiabass iso 25600 is only in photo mode, but you can use magic lantern iso options to boost it 1 stop for h264 video.

And a question to anyone who knows, why did raw_rec disappear?? looking through the builds, it has not been there since the start of September, so is it a bug or intentionally done? Or is there going to be a switch to MLV Lite?
I'll be really sad if it's gone as it only seemed to get faster every build and could record 1856x1044 continuously until my 32gb Lexar 1066x filled up. Is this the end of raw_rec?

I didn't notice the build failed, and yours was the first report.

Yes, I want to replace it with MLV Lite as well, just need to test the latest changes.

@Ilia3101

I can set (in photo mode) iso H2 directly with the camera.
Then i go to the expo tab, change the iso settings in any direction there - and iso 25600 is not available anymore if changed. (Only through Canon Setting H1)
Is this a bug or a feature?  :)

@nexiabass It took me a while to understand what exactly you are doing there, but I see now. I tried changing it through ML menu and it does seem to avoid going to 25600 after going down. Not sure if its a bug or a feature, maybe its there to stop you using too much Canon digital iso, but I don't know it might be a bug.

Quote from: marcbkk on August 26, 2016, 04:12:19 PM
Hello Everyone. I have two quick questions when running ML on a 5D Mark II please:

1 - I have focus peaking enabled in ML, but when I have the lens set to manual focus, and I am using live view, I don't see any focus peaking lines. Do I need to enable something else in order to get the focus peaking working?

2 - When I zoom now on a photo that has already been captured by the camera it first zooms all the way in to 100% zoom in one single click, rather than by small increments. It used to zoom in small increments a little at a time before I installed ML I believe. Is there a way to set the zoom to work the default way that it used to (in small increments) when running Magic Lantern?

Cheers...

@marcbkk
I'm having this same issue, did you happen to find a solution?

In my case
Canon 5dmkii
Mac sierra
Sandisk

I had to put the Canon firmware on the card as well as the contents of the folder ML
Before the 5dmkii would recognise the firware update

I was able to test few lenses with my 5D Mark II on the PhotoExpo2016 in Hungary

I used 1728x972 25p 14bit with a Lexar 64GB 1066x card with GlobalDraw On.

This is a dirty and shaky lens test be prepared to get dizzy :)

https://youtu.be/j0qjPi1EYGE (https://youtu.be/j0qjPi1EYGE)

20, 24, 35, 45, 50, 70, 85, 135, 200mm lens are used from different manufacturers

35mm F1.8 Tamron is the winner for me, that lens stabilisation is awesome

Hi

I'm recording magic lantern raw on a 5d2 and looking for the biggest and fastest cf card available. Has anyone tried 128 GB sandisk extreme pro 160 Mb/s?
As far as I have researched that card should be compatible with the 5d2, but I haven't yet heard of anybody recording raw with a 128 GB CF card on a 5D2.
How can that be?

If have searched all threads here and elsewhere.

best

Adam

I have only recently been trying to record decent sound with raw video on my 5D2.  I have good in-camera results with a BeachTek preamp and various microphones with h.264 files.

When recording at 1856x1044/23.9 fps I seem to be loosing audio sync.   When I down rez to 1280x720/ 23.9, sync is fine.

Does 1856x1044 with sound overtax the 5d2?

Curious if anyone has experience with various resolutions and sound recording.

Hi guys
Strange problem I have - ML install fails on my cacanon 5Dmk2 - it looks good until I reboot the camera but afterwards it doens´t boot to ML and going to default Canon without ML menus and so on. My card is Sandisk extreme pro 16GB.
What do you think? Any ideas?

Top of page -> User Guide

@tomaszchrapek , cycle thought the Info bottom on the middle left hand side of LCD screen . There should be 4 different screens , full magic lantern overlays , Canon with just a focus box and on the low bottom of screen (battery icon , Iso icon , exposure compensator meter , f-stop, lens length) , Full canon overlays , last full canon overlays with RGB exposure meters.
If you press the trash can bottom does magic lantern menu startup ?

What night build date? 

   Real Helpful Walter -> Hope You Didn't Sprain anything typing that. Would You care to share just what it is

that You think TomasZchrapek might want to look for in the Owners Man'.

      @TomasZchrapek

   Give more details on " it looks good until I reboot " ~ What M'L' Files do You have on Your Card? Take a ScreenShot

of the Cards Root Directory & Post It ~

                                 ORR ~ DeanB

The latest nightly build looks different from what I'm used to.  There are a bunch of files in the .zip file, not the usual ML folder and the autoexec.bin.  Instructions say to copy the folder and the .bin file, but there is no folder anymore?

User error. Nothing wrong with this build. Directory structure unchanged.
Use a decent unzip utility and make sure to have "restore directory structure" (or else) checked.

Ok, file and folder are on the CF card.  When I go to update firmware (currently running 2.1.2) it says that firmware needs to be on the CF card.  So am I also supposed to put the Canon firmware file on the card (something the instructions don't state)?

May I quote the installation instructions?

QuoteCopy ML files on the card and run Firmware Update.

             I would like to reply to Assocracer & Add an Attachment but can't find a way to Add an Attachment.

Could someone please provide some assistance on this?

                 Would Someone Please explain how to Add Attachments to Posts - Thank You .

You can't. Upload it somewhere else and post the link.

                     @ Assocracer

       The Root Level of Your Card Should look something like this ~

https://www.dropbox.com/home/Steve%20and%20Dean

       OK, So Why does only the link show up & not the actual Image as attachments do in other peoples Posts?

The link doesn't contain a file with a picture ending like .jpg / .png / .gif.
Btw your link contains space characters and additionally wants me to "login" to dropbox which again is contraproductive as embedding images requires public access.

                     @NikFreak

             I Agree 100% about it being CounterProductive but that is the Link that DropBox provided for me to Share & said that it would make the

image available to any one that had the Link. I'll try to find somewhere else to UpLoad to.

                                                                                                                  ORR ~ DeanB

Happy New Year fellow 5D2 Users  :D
Don't mean to double post this but thought is was important everyone is up to dated .
Just wanted to inform all 5d2 uses that if you don't all really know there a 10-12bit raw video reduction discussion thread going on here (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5601.msg177450;topicseen#msg177450)
There is success with the 5D2 in Crop Mode @ 10bit but full frame has corruption still and not very functional
The issue is the liveview is still in 14bits and causes problems , but for some reason unknow (at least to me ) in works in 3xCrop mode  :o
Don't expect any nightly here for some time , if you want to try it out and help to get the 5d2 working in full frame go to the  12-bit (and 10-bit) RAW video development discussion  (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5601.msg177450;topicseen#msg177450)

I shot a quick green test that turned in to a quick talk/explanation of 10-12bit  ;D
quick facts , Filmed with my 5D2 @ 10bit 2144x1076 23.976p with mlv2.0+audio (11,190 frames) about 8:00 min
Write speed was about 65MB/s , more info at this post here (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5601.msg177398#msg177398)



Edit: I uploaded this video as apple prores4444

@reddeercity You say in the video about the possibility of the crop frame being expanded? Possibility of 3K for 5D2! even if not 3k any expansion is welcome no matter how small... where on the forum can I read more about that? must have missed it in 10 days off before new year.
Also I just got a KomputerBay 128GB 1066x, and it constantly writes 75.8-76.2MB/s, much slower than my Lexar 32GB 1066x which is 76.8-77.3MB/s (sometimes hitting 77.4), so did I get a slow KomputerBay?

Quote from: Ilia3101 on January 06, 2017, 09:34:23 PM
@reddeercity You say in the video about the possibility of the crop frame being expanded?
Possibility of 3K for 5D2! even if not 3k any expansion is welcome no matter how small... where on the forum can I read more about that?

A1ex made a small statement here (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14656.msg175083#msg175083)

QuoteUseful commits to watch: adtg_gui.c  (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/all?search=adtg_gui) and qemu branch (https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/branch/qemu).
Tip: while doing this, you might understand interesting things, such as how to change the LiveView resolution, .
how to move the recorded area around, how to adjust the speed of your SD card or how to tweak picture style parameters (just some examples).

very interesting responds here (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14656.msg175095#msg175095) by g3gg0 lead me to believe the possibility exists in theory .

Hi.

I'm a newbie to ML, and have installed it on one of my 600Ds. I'm looking at upgrading to a 5Dii or iii. A ii would suit my budget much better.

Can I shoot continuous RAW 1080p with a 5Dii and ML (or at least close to it) without being at expert videographer level?
Or would I need to go to a 5Diii?
Or are there other models cheaper then the mark iii that are still producing 1080p RAW without days of tinkering required?
Are there any other reasons why a 5Diii is compelling for video compared to a 5Dii?

Thanks for bearing with a newbie, sorry if it's a silly question.

Hi
With a decent cf card how many minutes can i record at 1920x818 24fps?

Bandwidth required:
Vertical resolution * Horizontal resolution * Bit Depth * frame rate / 8 = Byte /s
1920 x 818 x 14 x 24 / 8 = 65963520 Byte/s
About 63 MByte/s and that will give you about 64 minutes using a 256 GByte card.

I'm new to this so please forgive me if this is an ignorant post.
I tried this build and had an issue with translucent grey bars (letterbox-like) on video live view for the Canon 5D Mark ii.
Couldn't shut them off when using an Atomos Ninja via HDMI out.
Reverted to the December build and it was all good.

Screenshots?

Noticed the focus backend is broken on 5D2 since early 2016. In particular, follow focus commands are sent only once per second, at least with 24/2.8 STM.

Anyone else can reproduce on different lenses?

I think I can confirm, when holding down arrow the focus goes buzz, nothing, buzz, nothing... until infinity or minimum distance. Lens was a 19-35 Cosina, if that counts as one

hi guys i have several issues,

i got lexar 64gb 800x card, test ruesults say im able to write around 60-65 mb/s

but, even 1600*900 24 fps no sound, i started to have frame loss. below this resolution it will be meaningless, i dont know somehow it crops the sensor right? whatever, raw video also takes huge storage, im not professional videographer,

i just wanted to record with high quality.

1- i made cbr 1,5x with sound : its okay.
2- whatever i make higher than 1.5 with sound, it stops.
3- if i mute sound i am able to capture 3.0x cbr.

is there any advice for me who has 800x lexar 64gb card? i dont have to much time to spend on raw video, just want to record my friends etc, and also i need global screen to see focus pick

what is the best pick_? THANKS

Hi!, i wanna recording dual iso with my camera, but i cant with last night!, what is the state of DUAL ISO ?...is possible share night link of dualiso old for 5d mark ii?

@arboldeconfianza 5D mark ii does have dual iso but only for photo officially. But dual iso for video on 5D2 was made a while ago: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16854.0 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16854.0) It is not in the main builds cos it was crashy, sometimes when you zoom in to focus or just randomly it locks up and requires a battery pull, but can be used for the odd shot. Maybe it is easy to fix? ;)

Hello,

I used Nightly.2016Dec19.5D2212 for around a month and it was very good, amazed by the raw quality. 

My workflow was raw2cdng (1.7.9 to produce 16-bit files) then Revolve to produce cineform then After Effects for what it does.

All worked fine, two bugs;

1. When previewing a still photo and zooming, the zoom goes all the way in (possibly intentional)
2. The sound would have a clipped noise lasting perhaps less than 1 sec somewhere, normally at the start, of a recording

Ive changed to Nightly.2017Mar12.5D2212 and found the following:

A.  Point 1 above still happens, so perhaps intentional but annoying
B.  I thought point 2 had stopped but in the 10 clips or so this evening to test/play, the noise happened in one or two
C.  Taking a still (any mode, no ML, just power on and take a photo) when the preview appears on screen, for a moment it displays as normal (i.e. as canon firmware would show it) but then the screen breaks up and states the error "raw error, falling back to yuv overlays" before going dark.
D.  When in liveview ML, using the zoom buttons to zoom in to allow focusing, sometimes gives me black and white/green/b&w noise
E.  I have the magic zoom focus window set to focus ring mode, medium size, 3:1.  With 2016Dec19, during recording i could adjust the focus ring to bring up the window, however in Mar12 i can only get it up (!) when not recording.

Perhaps some of these are known bugs (A i have seen mentioned a few pages back), others may be new.  Perhaps somebody can advise if its just a settings issue?

Thanks,
Stuart

Hi a1ex,

Any hope for a 4k 10bit support on a next 5D2's builds ?  :-\

Unfortunately latest discoveries won't make the CF card writing speeds faster. We would first need to achieve extended recording resolutions. Afterwards you could drive some more tests but my gut feeling says something around 2.5k 14bit lossless could be possible.

Quote
Any hope for a 4k 10bit support on a next 5D2's builds ?

maybe 1st April 2018?

Sorry about that, I didn't follow the last 5D2 build, I've only seen the 5D3 news on eosHD. I don't know exactly the CF writing speeds of 5D3 but as RAW capabilities were close with 5D2...  :)

5d3 has much better write performance and the news for 5D3 you were referring to are all fine for the 5D3. Check the following list for more details on write speed:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16cgnRivbUv7nA9PUlCLmLdir3gXdIN3pqzCNAAybepc/edit#gid=5

5D2 has unfortunately less write speed and therefore reduced recording capabilities. For the moment crop mode only delivers 2144 x 1076  until someone implement greg's resolution hack.

Quote from: nikfreak on April 02, 2017, 07:14:49 PM
until someone implement greg's resolution hack.

Myself and others are on it.

Happy to see all activity here again.
Haven't updated ML on my 5D2 since Jan 2015. Is there any easy way to see what is new since then? Tried to read trough the builds, but hard to see what each thing is (feature or fix or feature for other camera?)

The jan2015 version has a almost working silent.mo and fully working mlv_rec (that I have used in production many times).

Anything new or improved here? Worth an upgrade?

Hey Poroma, any luck locating the latest?  :-\

thx

@Kabuto1138 @poromaa just use nightly builds, and update every now and then, monthly is fine. They will have constant bug fixes and are always the 'latest', or if you want something really edgy you could get involved with 10 and 12 bit branches, but they aren't fully working on the mark ii and will most certainly have bugs.

Thx iLia

Hi everyone,

I am new to Magic Lantern, but just want to say how amazing it is.   So many great features.  Thank you so much to everyone who has contributed to the project!


I have question about using the FPS override in my 5dII.    I was able to get it working.   I changed the frame rate to 12 or 12.5 maybe and it does record in double time.  However rather than making one continuous movie it takes about 10 seconds worth of video, stops and then restarts again, making a whole bunch of those little short vids.    Also during the first couple of seconds the image is very dark, and then it starts to "lighten up" as if auto ISO is on or something, but I am shooting in manual mode.

What am I doing wrong? How can I fix this?   

Thanks in advance.

I'm looking for a couple of startup logs, using this build:

http://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/view/Experiments/job/startup-log/

These will log all Canon messages from the first 30 seconds, then save a log file. During this log, I need you to capture the following actions (not all at once, but divided over a couple of logs):

- menu navigation (just browse around)
- play mode navigation (view a picture, zoom in, toggle histograms etc)
- card format and restoring ML
- changing various Canon settings
- LiveView (for future use)
- autofocus (same)

Why? I'm getting really close to emulating the 5D2 in QEMU (it boots almost all the way until the GUI, and CF emulation works - see the DCIM test (https://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/view/QEMU/job/QEMU-tests/97/console)), but I'm missing something. These logs may help figuring it out.

(50D already works, with Canon menu navigation, card formatting and so on; figured it out from this log (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9852.msg184191#msg184191))

Quote from: a1ex on May 02, 2017, 09:02:37 PM
I'm looking for a couple of startup logs, using this build:

http://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/view/Experiments/job/startup-log/

These will log all Canon messages from the first 30 seconds, then save a log file. During this log, I need you to capture the following actions (not all at once, but divided over a couple of logs):

- menu navigation (just browse around)
- play mode navigation (view a picture, zoom in, toggle histograms etc)
- card format and restoring ML
- changing various Canon settings
- LiveView (for future use)
- autofocus (same)

Why? I'm getting really close to emulating the 5D2 in QEMU (it boots almost all the way until the GUI, and CF emulation works - see the DCIM test (https://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/view/QEMU/job/QEMU-tests/97/console)), but I'm missing something. These logs may help figuring it out.

(50D already works, with Canon menu navigation, card formatting and so on; figured it out from this log (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9852.msg184191#msg184191))

I can do it first thing in the weekend. Currently about to move so all equipment is packed down.

Thanks, already got a few logs from Ilia3101 and figured it out.

It would still be interesting to get the same scenarios covered from other cameras (to analyze differences and similarities), but that's just something nice to have (for future use).

Quote from: a1ex on May 02, 2017, 09:02:37 PM
I'm looking for a couple of startup logs, using this build:

Thanks for this. Just borrowed a 5D2 from a co-worker to do this.

Here are the logs in order per your request:

https://mega.nz/#!b9lmlKbB!04oSkbIYF8C0rwFmIxgqz4XFkT6bqBq9Nj9IjJcV-fs

 @A1ex , thanks for the startup log build it's helping me to understand Live View and how it starts up.
@ DeafEyeJedi , thanks for the logs files , it was easier to download your then logs then make my own .
I posted info about liveview  here -->  http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=19336.msg184219#msg184219 if any wants to check it out 

Hello! I'm not good in understanding all this stuff, so I would like to ask how ML installation on Canon Mark 2 can be useful? Will I be able to shoot 24 FPS 4K video, or just 1920x1080 60FPS+?  Thanks

Hi guys I wanna begin with a WORKFLOW in macbook pro, I used after effects and my macbook pro have ati radeon and cudda is not compatible, anybody haved experience with final cut in MLV workflow?, probably in the future i can make a test and share!, thank you!!

GO 5D MARK II!!

Do a search , this been ask & answered many times

Can i use Sandisk Extreme Pro CF 128 GB on 5D Mark ii?

Any advice would be helpful!! Thanks!!

Yes , you should be ok with that but no bigger. If you do a search you will find the info .
I personally use 64Gb 1066x Cf Cards . Just incase one card crashes or gets corrupted .

Hi, my Canon 5D MkII won't record RAW video. I've installed the latest nightly build and changed every module and setting according to this website. However in the Movie menu, RAW video MLV is switched on and remains grayed out.

I followed a similar thread to here by your direction. I'm having the same issues.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=19909.0

Thanks to all who keep this software possible.

Canon 5D MkII, Lexar 64GB 1066x, magiclantern-Nightly.2017Aug18.5D2212

Try mlv_rec.mo, mlv_snd and mlv_play modules only. Mlv_rec and raw_rec can not be on at the same time.

Thanks for the heads up, I'll check my config.
Cheers

The camera needs to be switched into the live View shooting mode to activate the loaded modules.

mlv_play

mlv_rec
mlv_snd

Just press the live View shooting button.

Some times it's procedural.

Cheers

(http://thumb.ibb.co/mgxrJa/live_View_shooting_button.png) (http://ibb.co/mgxrJa)

post image url for forum (http://imgbb.com/)

Quote from: reddeercity on January 03, 2017, 01:15:04 AM
Happy New Year fellow 5D2 Users  :D
Don't mean to double post this but thought is was important everyone is up to dated .
Just wanted to inform all 5d2 uses that if you don't all really know there a 10-12bit raw video reduction discussion thread going on here (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5601.msg177450;topicseen#msg177450)
There is success with the 5D2 in Crop Mode @ 10bit but full frame has corruption still and not very functional
The issue is the liveview is still in 14bits and causes problems , but for some reason unknow (at least to me ) in works in 3xCrop mode  :o
Don't expect any nightly here for some time , if you want to try it out and help to get the 5d2 working in full frame go to the  12-bit (and 10-bit) RAW video development discussion  (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5601.msg177450;topicseen#msg177450)

I shot a quick green test that turned in to a quick talk/explanation of 10-12bit  ;D
quick facts , Filmed with my 5D2 @ 10bit 2144x1076 23.976p with mlv2.0+audio (11,190 frames) about 8:00 min
Write speed was about 65MB/s , more info at this post here (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5601.msg177398#msg177398)

Edit: I uploaded this video as apple prores4444

Great video. Do you think  shooting in 10bit might give capability of shooting higher frame rates?

Looking at the user guide, I'm not clear if this is applicable to all cameras using Magic Lantern or specific ones, but what I am particularly interested in is the Movie Restert function - I have some 20-30 minute performances that I would love to be record but can't, since I am in them. Will this work? Will there be any side effects beyond a few second gap in between clips? Thanks!

With regards to the restart function, the last time I used it, there will be a gap. It might not be several seconds, probably 1 or less. but there is a gap.

This may help: http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/faq#how_do_i_record_for_more_than_12_minutes

Quote from: dcw1979 on September 21, 2017, 02:47:24 PM
Great video. Do you think  shooting in 10bit might give capability of shooting higher frame rates?

If you mean more than 30fps , it can get 32 fps(with frame over ride)  but has nothing to do with 10bit raw video
All this means is 10bit can record larger frame sizes up to (in 3x cropmode) 2144x1076 mlv+audio continuous @ 23.976 or maybe 25 fps (I don't use that frame rate so not sure)
Thou if you want higher either get a 5d3 or 7d that does 60fps , I don't think even the 5d2 has enough processing power to do 60 fps or even 48 but I could be wrong . 

Quote from: Cycloptersaurus on September 26, 2017, 05:59:29 AM
...... but what I am particularly interested in is the Movie Restert function - I have some 20-30 minute performances that I would love to be record but can't, since I am in them. Will this work? Will there be any side effects beyond a few second gap in between clips? Thanks!

As Ted said there will be a small 1-2 second gap , but works will . There is other way to get 20-30 min of footage , One way is to capture the (Clean)HDMI signal to a recorder e.g. Atomos Ninja Hard drive recorder (check your local camera rental store) , Capture card/device connected to a computer/laptop e.g. blackmagic ultra studio usb3.0 device (I have  one ) *note* HDMI is only 1650x1080 so it would have to be scaled & or crop (holds up really well) . Or use mlv raw video and reduce the resolution frame size e.g. 1600x800 or 1280x720 etc. .... of course it depended on the size of you CF card . You could try the highly  experimental 10bit reduction build  (https://bitbucket.org/reddeercity/magic-lantern_10-12bit/downloads/magiclantern-10bit_12bit_raw_twk_crop_rec.2016Dec01.5D2212.zip), which will reduce you data rate but only works in 3x cropmode with a lens crop factor of 2.5 to 3.0 depends on frame size . At 2144x1076 @ 23.976 fps I can fill a 64 GB CF card = 14 min. (about 62MB/s)  look here (http://rawcalculator.bitballoon.com/calculator_desktop) to see what different frames sizes & data rate that can use to maximized the recording time  Some examples : 10bit cropmode1280x720 @ 23.976 = 23.3MB/s 19min on a 32 GB card or non crop mode 1:1 1280x720 at 14bit 36.9MB/s = 13min on 32GB card . Etc. ....... .

One more though on h264 you can reduce the encoded bit rate from the normal 45Mb/s to 10-20 & if you have 2 cams you can off set the record time so cam 2 came overlap the gap in footage this is probably the easiest method .

Hello Dfort, I have problems with the 5d2 version raw_video_10bit_12bit.2018Jan27.5D2212 and raw_video_10bit_12bit_LVState-wip.2018Feb04.5D2212, error loading the modules after activating them, the magiclantern-Nightly.2018Feb04.5D2212 vesrion works without problems
(https://thumb.ibb.co/dvWS0c/20180207_155534.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dvWS0c)

(https://thumb.ibb.co/kQHZfc/20180207_213448.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kQHZfc)


I also have a 7D and the raw_video_10bit_12bit.2017Dec12.7D203 version works without problems

Pleaaaassseeeeee  ;D :D :D :D

That's because 5D2 is not supported , It doesn't work because of raw_slurp is not implemented and my never as there problems in Vsync in liveview .
If you want to help make it work , start here (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5601.msg188879#msg188879) read the next 10 page , then you will be up to date .
Setup a development environment , very easy to do there many tutorial on the forum from starting from scratch to a per-loaded VM OS ready to compile magic lantern nighty builds

Another problem is that you are loading way too many modules. Activate only mlv_lite--nothing else, at least for now. If you look at the source code of my experimental raw_video_10bit_12bit_LVState-wip branch you'll notice this:

platform/5D2.212/internals.h
/** this method bypasses Canon's lv_save_raw and slurps the raw data directly from connection #0 */
#define CONFIG_EDMAC_RAW_SLURP
#define CONFIG_ALLOCATE_RAW_LV_BUFFER


So is raw_slurp really working? You tell me.

I think there must be something , as you do have some very good success with it on 7d (digic4) so you would think 5d2 (digic4) should be similar in success .

Playing around with the new experimental 1:1 Liveveiw in 12bit @ 1856x1044 23.976fps +audio (full mlv_rec+audio)
every one can get up to speed on this in this post (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5601.msg198349#msg198349) on the 10-12bit thread .
I really like this 12bit better then 14bit , I more pleasing cinematic image and real pleasure to grade .
I did the classic Quick Mount in Win7 then import to CS6 A.E. in ACR exported as
tiff --> Mac compressor -->prores4444xq --> FCPX film convert pro , red mx camera source --> export frame
link to frames
M11-0006_002688.dng (https://bitbucket.org/reddeercity/magic-lantern_10-12bit/downloads/M11-0006_002688.dng)  no-grade.png (https://bitbucket.org/reddeercity/magic-lantern_10-12bit/downloads/12bit%205D%20Markii_no-grade.png)  full grade_black backgound (https://bitbucket.org/reddeercity/magic-lantern_10-12bit/downloads/12bit%205D%20Markii_1.png)   full grade_white backgound (https://bitbucket.org/reddeercity/magic-lantern_10-12bit/downloads/12bit%205D%20Markii.png)

By the way it's just my ugly old face -- so you being warned  :P

(https://thumb.ibb.co/gXdNsx/M11_0006_002688_small.png)original dng (https://ibb.co/gXdNsx) (https://thumb.ibb.co/bXfkCx/12bit_5_D_Markii_no_grade_samll.png)exported CS6A.E. (https://ibb.co/bXfkCx) (https://thumb.ibb.co/kmVVec/12bit_5_D_Markii_1_small.png)full grade (https://ibb.co/kmVVec)

Edit: shot at 70mm (24-70f2.8L canon) F4 200 ISO @ 1/53th second (closest I can get to 1/48) and no preprocessing with mlv_dump option
 

Well done Reddeercity  :) !
Thanks to keep up the good work on 5D2 !
I'm a little bit scary about the channel 02 and aex1's warning ...
so when the right channel will be found, I will test it for sure !
Which picture size did you try with success in 12bit crop 1:1 23,96hz ? 1920x1076 ?
Thanks

Quote from: benoit on March 16, 2018, 09:57:25 AM
Well done Reddeercity  :) !
Thanks to keep up the good work on 5D2 !

@benoit thanks but,
I'm just one very small part of the whole picture on the forum  -- It's never just one person , even though it may seem like it .
It's dozen if not hundreds of users making contribution , even if it's just researching info about chips sets of reading disassembly rom strings or
reading  (dm-log) for memory address performing image_dumps , running logs to capture different camera process e.g. (Lossless compression)  etc. ...
I could go on & on , It's much more then just coding (of would I know very little about , but enough to follow along & make changes will maybe a little more then that)
So don't be afraid to participate , all is welcome .

Quote from: benoit on March 16, 2018, 09:57:25 AM
I'm a little bit scary about the channel 02 and aex1's warning ...
so when the right channel will be found, I will test it for sure !

take this with a grain of salt  :D
see my statement on the beginning of this post , that the point . I would like people to get involved to help solve problems like this .
The right channel can be found if more people help.

Quote from: benoit on March 16, 2018, 09:57:25 AM
Which picture size did you try with success in 12bit crop 1:1 23,96hz ? 1920x1076 ?

This only works in 1:1 liveview not 3x Crop_mode hence the name of the build "magiclantern-10_12bit_broken_3xcrop_mode_2017Dec10.5D2212.zip"
So to recap 12bit 1:1 liveview works up to 1856x1044 (max res)@ 23.976 (with frame override enabled to exact) + audio on the mlv_rec module plus
HDMI works with Evf or hard drive recorder e.g. atomos ninja etc. ....

3x crop mode is totally corrupted when recording in all bit depths , if you are looking for stable 3x crop_mode 10 & 12bit then use the old dec 2016 build with bit reduction
look in my bitbucket downloads ,  https://bitbucket.org/reddeercity/magic-lantern_10-12bit/downloads/
10bit @ 2144x1076 @ 23.976 is continuous (mlv_rec) 12bit would still be limited to resolution & writing band width (75MB/s) in 3xcrop mode
I never really check but I would think 1920x960 @ 23.976 should be ok , you may get more vertical resolution up to 1076 .

Hello.  Long time lurker, first time poster.

First, thank you to everyone for the amazing work that's been done on Magic Lantern.  It's breathing new life into older hardware.

I'm using Magic Lantern (latest nightly build) on my EOS M for non RAW video and it's amazing.  I'm not looking to use RAW anytime soon due to various reasons and am happy with H.264.  The only issue I have with the EOS M is poor ISO performance so I was looking to use my 5D2.  I installed the latest nightly build and everything seems to be working correctly.  The only issue I am running into is the Aliasing on the 5D2.  Compared to the EOS M, it's terrible.  Here's a comparison video shot at f/2.8:

https://youtu.be/uLv__DycyhM (https://youtu.be/uLv__DycyhM)

I also shot video at f/8.0 and it's a similar result.

When I shoot RAW on the 5D2, it's amazing but I can't use it due to the crop and file size.  Do I have any hope with my 5D2?

Thank you.

@clanlee - wow, that is quite a dramatic comparison.

5D2 H.264
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4772/26115379557_8afff3b23b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FMJ9uM)

EOSM H.264
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/818/40093025545_edbcf20a09.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/245TeF8)

Never knew that the EOSM improved on the aliasing issue.

You should be able to pretty much eliminate aliasing by shooting in 5x zoom mode but of course that completely changes the characteristic of the camera because it is using just a small part of the sensor. Another option would be to use a (rather costly) VAF filter (http://www.mosaicengineering.com/products/vaf/5d2.html).

Just out of curiosity, what are your settings? You might have sharpening turned up. My settings when shooting H.264 are:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/791/40944606882_ab8eef98f0.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25o8P8Y)

A.K.A. Prolost Flat

Start with the Neutral Picture Style
Set Sharpness to zero—all the way to the left
Set Contrast all the way to the left
Set Saturation two notches to the left

@reddeercity is the 5D2 expert so maybe he can share some tips for getting the most out of this camera when using H.264.

@dfort

I'm using the Cinestyle profile with Sharpness set at 0, Contrast at -4 and Saturation and Color Tone set to 0.  I also tried the Flaat and Neutral and got similar results in regards to aliasing.

Here's the footage with the Prolost Flat profile shot at 35mm @ f/2.8:

https://youtu.be/zDOXZ4Sr0X4 (https://youtu.be/zDOXZ4Sr0X4)

I tried shooting crop mode in H.264 and it looked worse than the non cropped mode.  Just to be sure I did it correct, I pressed the zoom button once (5x) and started recording.  Sound wasn't recorded and when I pulled the video, aliasing was worse than non cropped mode.  The VAF filter is an option if I could find one used.  I would love to continue using my 5D2 but based on my test, I don't think I want to.  A software solution would be ideal.

If I can't get this working, I might try to get a used 5D3.

12bit Experimental Raw Video on my 5D2 , It ended up as a development update video for digic iv .  :D
I'm very happy with the image results 12bit hits the Sweet Spot !! No Aliasing and Moiré patterns (at least I can't see any), the skin tones are wonderful
I couldn't get this cinematic  look with 14bit with so little work , MLVFS(pc quick mount) normalize them in A.E. to Tif's  , made a prores4444xq  in compressor graded in FCPX  :D
Keyed the greenscreen , then applied film convert pro "RED MX" for camera source with KD P400 Ptra film emulation .
Can't wait to shoot some projects now in 12bit , I also briefly talk about Lossless & UHD/3.5k
I hope everyone enjoys it

tell me please...
it i will shotinh 14 bit on my Canon 5d mk3 .... and shooting in 1- bit
it will be big difference ?
coz it on 30% less in value

What is the difference between 1:1 mode and the "normal mode"? It sounds strange to me there are no moire/aliasing in full frame mode. Nice development anyway.

So y ou're saying 12 bit fixes moire patterns on the 5D2? very excited to watch the video and test it out...

This means you have somehow changed the binning as a side effect?

:D

Quote from: clanlee on March 24, 2018, 06:07:26 PM
I tried shooting crop mode in H.264 and it looked worse than the non cropped mode.  Just to be sure I did it correct, I pressed the zoom button once (5x) and started recording.  Sound wasn't recorded and when I pulled the video, aliasing was worse than non cropped mode.
...
I might try to get a used 5D3.

That's odd--you shouldn't be getting this much aliasing and you should have audio. Your EOSM is working fine in Movie crop and zoom modes, right?

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/817/41050118371_3f22ec735a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25xsA2z)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/877/40341878514_1dbe7ef60c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24sSEZy)

The 5D3 is by far the best camera to use with Magic Lantern and it should perform almost as good as your EOSM.  :P

Just kidding of course but I was thinking why would the EOSM outperform the 5D2 in H.264? The only thing I could think of is that even though the 5D2 has a 21.1 megapixel sensor vs. the EOSM's 18 megapixel, it is spread over a larger area. That means in 3x3 sampling mode the "pixel pitch" of the EOSM is tighter and thus less aliasing. However, that doesn't explain the 1:1 sampling H.264 aliasing issue that you pointed out.

I think I just have a bad 5D2 copy, at least for video.  Photo is great but the very few times I've tried video in the past, aliasing was very bad.  This was when I tried shooting video on the Canon firmware, without Magic Lantern. 

Quote from: Ilia3101 on March 27, 2018, 10:51:20 AM
So y ou're saying 12 bit fixes moiré patterns on the 5D2? very excited to watch the video and test it out...
This means you have somehow changed the binning as a side effect?
:D

No I don't think so , all I change was the write channel (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5601.msg194559#msg194559) ,  normally I have very little to no problems with moiré patterns even with h264 .
I'll try to explain my logic : I believe the main issue (be on line skipping) is  motion blur , sharpness & contrast .
For is reason I only use technicolor cinestyle picture style profile for Liveview preview (flat) , I correct my w/b & expose
to that profile . I try to be within f4 to f8 , one thing I do is to expose for shadows instead of exposing for hi-lights .
I usually find most moiré patterns are a issue in the hi-lights (sometime not always)
I know I can always recover hi-lights (with 12+ stops) 99% of the times , drag the shutter a bit (1/43th-ish) , I make sure I have at least a
3 point light setup with more light power (like the sun :)) ) that I need (in the case of the green screen , third light was over top of me instead of behind me)
so I can run lower ISO's (100 , 200 but never over)  . I like to run a little soft on the focus (instead of turn down sharpness in "cinestyle profile)

(https://thumb.ibb.co/hJFeQS/picture_profile_screenshot.png) (https://ibb.co/hJFeQS)

I use canon "L" lens so not sure if that help too , but what I thing is really helping is the 12bit black level range

(https://image.ibb.co/ie6VX7/Metadata_1.png) (https://imgbb.com/)

So I have to wonder , does 12bit still come from the 14bit silent image 1880x1250 ? or is there another pipe off
the A/D convertor to 12bit & 10bit or a recalculation of the 14bit ? but is really 14bit ?
I know in some of my very early tests with the bit reduction code , I implemented it in the old ml core .
I was abled to get 16bit to save test files , but couldn't decode it .
If you compare 14 to 12 for black levels  1792 to 448 , It seem to be the color sweet spot , can't explain it why just is !
I least to my eye's , You tell me for yourself @Ilia3101 , I'm I wrong ?

I need to do a long 10bit test to see if it's as clean & clear of issue like moiré patterns

Just picked up a 5d mk ii and am having issues installing ML.. I'm running latest 2.1.2 with a 1067x sandisk extreme Pro cf.  I've formatted and re-installed ML multiple times but when I go to live view > trash bin the ML menu doesn't show up, nothing has changed. Not sure if its me or the camera / software.

any troubleshooting tips would be much appreciated.

Take a short video with a cell phone/iphone  to show what happens when you boot the cam and post here also try :
after bootup press the Liveview button --top left of the small view finder (the red letter B )

(https://image.ibb.co/d90O7H/Mark_IIback_small.png) (https://imgbb.com/)

That should bring up LiveView , you may have to cycle though the Info button to get ML menu (the red letter E)
Did you set the boot flag ? you should have seen a screen like this or very close to it

(https://image.ibb.co/mPcH1c/new_installer_small.png) (https://imgbb.com/)

If you don't set the boot flag magic lantern will not load .
hope this helps

I do not see the boot flag. The camera boots and operates as if there is no ML installed.

Here is a video of me booting camera and such:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvwprn0986f10oe/Video%204-10-18%2C%2012%2038%2012%20PM.mov?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvwprn0986f10oe/Video%204-10-18%2C%2012%2038%2012%20PM.mov?dl=0)

Here are the ML files on my card, I assume they are installed properly? Just a simple copy onto the card?


(https://thumb.ibb.co/j88Obc/Photo_4_10_18_12_35_08_PM.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j88Obc)

Top of page -> User Guide -> FAQ/Install Guide

Hint--

"run Firmware Upgrade and follow the instructions."

Just did I test with the latest nightly build -- doing a install video tutorial for Fresh CF Card (New , never had ML on it) with the new ml update ML-SETUP.FIR
# Magic Lantern Nightly.2018Feb04.5D2212 (36acb0f9c3e2 (unified) tip)
# Built on 2018-02-03 23:10:44 UTC by jenkins@nightly
# Configuration saved on 2018/04/15 21:46:25
beta.warn = 15
When I tested raw (1856x928 @23.976p exact + audio 44.1 kHz) I'm getting a lot of torn frames when I pan .
Sometimes high in the frame and sometimes low in the frame
Starts at frame 39 , 41,42,43,44,45,46,47,49,51,52,54, then starts to do it every 2 frames then a good frame etc.. with the 2 frames the first has tearing high then the next has it low on the frame then the next is good then it repet it's self
this is the first time I had ever had problem with the nightly , not sure what was added or merged but this build is not right , sure be marked as "Failed"
The only other thing I did was I had the HDMI connected while recording raw , which I never had a problem ever before.
Now if it is related to HDMI , Why would this cause corruption ??  never has before  so I have to think some code in liveview has been updated related to JpCore(jpeg chip)
and like always I run with Frame Over ride to exact @ 23.976 from 24 .
Even in my 10-12bit experimental 1:1FHD  build I don't have this issue .
Here the file , it's 750MB 10 second of video , if any one wants to check it out
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18XdoRuctcUCPUkhPddJf7_ziUQlnTjK-/view?usp=sharing
I used two method to view the problem , first with MLVFS QuickMount (Win7) and MLVProducer

After looking at the change log , I see a "Merged in garry23"36acb0f (http://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/36acb0f9c3e2a3df46bd9affc26e0d70c455b5b7) some focus.c: stuff the rest is all "MakeFile" can't see that being the problem . https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/0752dd8e7182747ec2ae5caf46ef3c3b06d3b4a6 , this look like it may be a problem , Preview while recording raw back in Aug/18/2017 0752dd8: (http://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/0752dd8e7182747ec2ae5caf46ef3c3b06d3b4a6) there seems to a lot of changes to raw.c main 5d3 but it shouldn't cause a problem with 5d2 you would think but there a problem and I don't know how far back the issue go's as I don't ever check new builds I just compile my own with changes I like or need and I still use the old core(1872) for daily stuff. 

I've noticed that when using mlv_lite.mo (Raw video v1.1 (MLV Lite)) with FPS override FastTV mode, when recording RAW in 1x crop mode on 5D mark II, it will contain intermittent backward frames.

Watch this https://youtu.be/m1_FBnhzXCs (https://youtu.be/m1_FBnhzXCs)
There are 2 backward frames in this sample sequence, they are marked and should be easy to notice.

Here is the source MLV : https://goo.gl/txLJoN (https://goo.gl/txLJoN)

Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2017Sep15.5D2212
mlv_lite.mo (Raw video v1.1 (MLV Lite))
FPS override 15fps (FastTV mode)
1x crop mode @ 1856x1044
ISO100
aperture : f/8
shutter speed : 1/60s (16ms)
bit depth : 14bit Raw

The sequence will contain more backward frames with slower shutter speed, for example FPS override of 15fps and shutter speed of 1/17s will produce about 20+ backward frames scattered randomly in a 2000 frames sequence.

However, the same settings works correctly with mlv_rec.mo (Raw video v2.0(MLV)) Nightly.2017Sep15.5D2212

This issue doesn't occur in 3x crop mode with the same fps override setting.

Hopefully it could be fixed. Thanks!

Ok thanks , I'll see if I can reproduce the issue with that build date on my 5d2

I guess there a few people who are having some troubles installing ml , so I made a updated (with the new ml setup firmware file)
install tutorial for 5d2 but it applies to all ml enabled camera -- I do a step by step (slowly) hopefully not to slow  :D .

Quote from: tajino on April 22, 2018, 12:15:23 AM
I've noticed that when using mlv_lite.mo (Raw video v1.1 (MLV Lite)) with FPS override FastTV mode, when recording RAW in 1x crop mode on 5D mark II, it will contain intermittent backward frames.

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Magic Lantern version : Nightly.2017Sep15.5D2212
mlv_lite.mo (Raw video v1.1 (MLV Lite))
FPS override 15fps (FastTV mode)
1x crop mode @ 1856x1044
ISO100
aperture : f/8
shutter speed : 1/60s (16ms)
bit depth : 14bit Raw

Ok had a look into this , I guess I should be testing these build as I'm finding problems .
First loaded the Sept/15/2017 nightly build
# Magic Lantern Nightly.2017Sep15.5D2212 (80501e7a8ada (unified) tip)
# Built on 2017-09-14 22:09:23 UTC by jenkins@nightly
# Configuration saved on 2018/04/22 21:26:30
beta.warn = 22
tried to reproduce @tajino setting and I had no problems with mlv_lite or mlv_rec or at least what was describe as the problem
I can't download the file that was posted (problem with link) to check the file .
So I did a few test's with mlv_lite & mlv_rec + audio -- tested with HDMI connected to Zacuto EVF & without
Without Evf(HDMI) all raw video looks normal in mlv_lite & mlv_rec+audio ,
Not so with Evf (HDMI) connected both mlv_lite & mlv_rec+audio has numerous corrupted frames , mlv_lite had very bad corruption compared to mlv_rec
had 36 bad frames out of 700 here a couple of examples of mlv_lite


 (https://image.ibb.co/cgXjMx/M22_1823_00348_small.png) (https://imgbb.com/)

(https://image.ibb.co/dgi8gx/M22_1823_00268_small.png) (https://imgbb.com/)


mlv_rec just has torn frames just like I post here (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11205.msg200016#msg200016) -- some examples
Frames from 00053-00059

(https://thumb.ibb.co/eq1VTc/M22_2125_00053_small.png) (https://ibb.co/eq1VTc)(https://thumb.ibb.co/cD24oc/M22_2125_00054_samll.png) (https://ibb.co/cD24oc)(https://thumb.ibb.co/gmmQuH/M22_2125_00055_small.png) (https://ibb.co/gmmQuH)(https://thumb.ibb.co/k0sn8c/M22_2125_00056_small.png) (https://ibb.co/k0sn8c)(https://thumb.ibb.co/dtcWZH/M22_2125_00058_small.png) (https://ibb.co/dtcWZH)(https://thumb.ibb.co/ks01ZH/M22_2125_00060_small.png) (https://ibb.co/ks01ZH)

So not a bad as mlv_lite , I don't know how far back this goes I notice it on the latest build "Feb/02/2017" and this is Sept.15/2017 build . I don't have the problems with any of the experimental builds (10-12bit) must be a different branch I think this is unified I'm testing right now .
@tajino by chance did you have a HDMI connected when you had this problem ?
Can I get some feedback from other 5D2 users that use HDMI , does problem came up ?
What build did everyone notice it first happen ? Also any other Digic 4 cam users -- have anyone notice problems with HDMI mlv_lite or mlv_rec ?

In the mean time I'll go back about a year and test some builds , to see if the problem can be tracked down to a merge or update .
Until this issue can resolved if you use a HDMI try and find a older build that works , the last two nightly builds are effected . 

When back a few years in builds and this problem has been there for a long time I never really notice before .
I had to go back to the old core # Magic Lantern v2.3.NEXT.2014Feb15.5D2212 (54a967d0c228 (unified) tip)
# Built on 2014-02-15 19:27:16 UTC by [email protected]
# Configuration saved on 2018/04/23 00:16:20
beta.warn = 23
# Config file for module mlv_rec (MLV_REC.MO)
mlv.video.enabled = 1
mlv.res.x = 15
mlv.write.speed = 7023
mlv.preview = 3
mlv.video.display_rec_info = 2
mlv.video.buffer_fill_method = 0

All frames are good with HDMI connected with mlv_rec+audio even has a higher write speed "70MB/s" compared to the new builds write speed of 68MB/s .
The one I test before that was

Magic Lantern Nightly.2017Jan13.5D2212
Camera   : 5D2
Firmware : 212
Changeset: 6ebf4242f4d9 (unified) tip
Built on : 2017-01-12 23:09:33 by jenkins@nightly
and it has the problem with HDMI , it seem when where thing was changed to the "New Core" that when it broke from what I can tell , Why ? I have no idea
some one smarter then me would have look in to it . 
What has changed in Liveview from old to new core ? or is this another one of those thing that been sacrificed for the Digic 5 camera ?

I guess that's why I been using the "Old Core" for production work , got to have HDMI .

@reddeercity, I don't have HDMI connected, just standalone 5D2.

Your frame tearing and corruption issues looks more severe, what I got from MLV_lite was duplicated backwards frames in the sequence.
The frame sequence it will go like this 0,1,2,3,2,5,6,7,8,7,10,11,12, instead of writing frame 4, it is writing frame 3 at frame 4 location omitting frame 4 completely.

I had to fix a few shots with these backward and missing frames with Twixtor pro, luckily there were only subtle movements in the shot which could be saved with generated motion vector interpolates.

Here is the new link to the source MLV in Dropbox this time : https://www.dropbox.com/s/nokr8gttksfgfne/M18-1427_mlv-lite_1x_15fps_bkf.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/nokr8gttksfgfne/M18-1427_mlv-lite_1x_15fps_bkf.zip?dl=0)

Strange that you couldn't access the previous link https://goo.gl/txLJoN (https://goo.gl/txLJoN), it was a directly link to my webhost.

There is no mlv_lite.mo in the old core right (Magic Lantern v2.3.NEXT.2014Feb15.5D2212 (54a967d0c228 (unified) tip))?